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MY WIFE'S GOING TO BE HERE TONIGHT.
SHE HAD A MEETING DOWN THERE, SO SHE HAD TO STAND IN FOR, I WILL FOLLOW NOW GOD IS WE TO COME BEFORE YOU DENIED FALL, REALIZING WE NEED YOU.
WE CAN'T GET ALONG WITH DODGER, PROBABLY BE AT THE SPECIAL BLESSING PART ALL TONIGHT.
FATHER BLESS THIS CITY IN VERY SPECIAL WAY.
WE'LL PROBABLY REALIZE Y'ALL READY TO BLESS THIS BOND OR MUST THE PROBABLY LET US BE ABLE TO BLESS EACH OTHER.
PROBABLY WE ASKED THE BLESSING FOR THIS WHOLE COMMUNITY FATHER THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO WORK TOGETHER.
FATHER BLESS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, FATHER, WHO YOU ARE BLESSED.
SO BUNDLE IF OUR, THAT WE MAY BE ABLE TO REACH OUT AND HELP SOMEONE ELSE ALONG THE WAY WE HAD SOME NEEDS AND OTHER BLESSING IN JESUS' NAME, WE PRAY MECHANIC DONE.
THE CITY ENGINEERING SEEMS LIKE I JUST LEFT.
IT WAS THIS MORNING THAT WE STARTED, RIGHT.
THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TREATED A TOTAL OF 123 MILLION GALLONS.
THE AVERAGE DAILY FLOW IS 3.99 MILLION GALLONS.
THE PEAK FLOW WAS 4.3 MILLION GALLONS, WHICH OCCURRED BOTH ON OCTOBER 1ST AND OCTOBER 2ND, THE, UM, PLANT MPDS PERMIT, UH, THE PLANT WAS IN, UH, COMPLIANCE ON ALL PARAMETERS.
UH, FOR THE MONTH OF OCTOBER, THE PHOSPHORUS AVERAGE IS 1.4, TWO MILLIGRAMS PER LITER.
THE TOTAL SUSPENDED REMOVAL EFFICIENCY WAS 87.3%.
THE BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND REMOVAL EFFICIENCY WAS 90%.
UM, ALSO I WANTED TO UPDATE YOU ON THE, UM, WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UM, PLANS TO UPGRADE THE PLANT, UH, THE PLAN REVISIONS THAT HAD BEEN COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE BY THE STATE BACK.
UH, THE CONTRACT ENGINEERS, UH, HAS BEEN RESUBMITTED TO THE STATE, UM, LAST WEDNESDAY, UM, THOSE, UM, THAT WILL BE REVIEWED AND RETURNED TO US FOR FURTHER COMMENTS POSSIBLY.
UM, THEY HAVE A 16 AND 90 DAY PERIOD THERE TO, TO PUT COMMENTS BACK TO US IF THEY HAVE ANY, UH, WE ARE ALSO IN THE PROCESS OF REQUESTING A SPECIAL ORDER OF CONSENT, UM, WHICH WILL ALLOW US TO OPERATE THE EXISTING PLANT, UH, IN A, UM, ABOUT HALF CAPACITY, UH, WHILE WE'RE DOING THE CONSTRUCTION ON THE NEW PLANT.
ALSO, WE LIKE TO UPDATE YOU ON THE, UM, UH, NEWBURN WATER RECLAMATION PROJECT.
UH, WE ARE CONTINUING TO GATHER DATA FROM THE WELLS THAT WE'VE PLACED IN THE AREA WITH THE CITIZENS THAT COMPLAINED ABOUT HOW WATER TABLE LEVELS AND, UH, WATER GETTING INTO BASEMENTS.
UH, THIS RAIN THAT WE HAD THIS PAST WEEK OVER THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAYS GAVE US SOME VALUABLE DATA.
AND, UH, WE'RE CONTINUING TO COLLECT THAT ALSO, UH, DAM SAFETY HAS, UM, ISSUED A SECOND SET OF COMMENTS.
UH, THEY ARE GOING TO BE ADAMANT ABOUT US PUTTING SOME SORT OF, UM, SPILLWAY EMERGENCY SPILLWAY, UH, IN THE QUARRY THAT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE OPERATED BY AN OPERATOR.
UH, SO REPRESENT ASSOCIATES WILL BEGIN DESIGNING, UM, THE TYPE OF A TUBE, UH, SYSTEM THAT YOU SEE SOMETIMES IN A STORM WATER, DETENTION PONDS AROUND TOWN, WHERE THEY HAVE A CIRCULAR, UM, UM, CORRUGATED PIPE STICKING UP IN THE CENTER OF THE POND AND WATER FLOWS IN AND OUT OF THE DETENTION CENTER.
THAT WAY WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TWO OR THREE OF THOSE, UM, PUT A ALONG THE QUARRY, UH, GOING TO THE RIVER.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
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IS IT HAZARD MITIGATION REPORT SAYS HERE, THE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING, HAVE YOU BEEN PROMOTED OR DEMOTED AS THE CASE MAY BE? I THINK HE SHOWED YOU HIS AUTHORITY SIGNS.IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN TONIGHT.
UM, I HAVE A COPY OF MY NOTES IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY AS A BRIEF COMMENT BEFORE I START, UM, WE HAVE A, A PROGRESS MEETING CONDUCTED WITH THE STAFF, UM, EVERY FOURTH, MONDAY MORNING, GENERALLY AT 10 O'CLOCK.
UM, IF ANY OF YOU HAVE TIME WOULD LIKE TO STOP IN AND HAVE SOME INFORMAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT.
WE CERTAINLY LOVE TO HAVE YOU IN THE PLANNING AGAIN, HAVE DIVIDED YOUR, YOUR STATUS REPORT BY BID PACKAGE, UM, AND RUN THROUGH THAT BRIEFLY ON PACKAGE ONE, A UNITS, NUMBER 80, AND NUMBER 92 ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.
UM, ONE OF THOSE IS A HOUSE ON OAKS ROAD, UH, THAT IS UNDER THE AIR.
WE'RE HAVING SOME PROBLEMS WITH ROTTEN WOOD UNDERNEATH THAT HOUSE.
UH, WE'RE MEETING WITH THE BUILDING INSPECTOR TOMORROW TO HOPEFULLY COME UP WITH SOLUTIONS TO GET THAT BACK DOWN.
WE'VE BEEN IN WEEKLY CONTACT WITH THE OWNER AND HE UNDERSTANDS WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE THAT WRAPPED UP MY CHRISTMAS.
THEN YOU SAY, EXCUSE ME, MAN, THAT HOUSE WITHIN A LOT OF FOOT OR SOMETHING TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO END UP, IT'S PRETTY CLOSE TO WHERE IT'S GOING TO END UP.
THEY, THEY, THEY DON'T PUT IT.
THEY DON'T TAKE THEM UP TOO MUCH FURTHER THAN THEY GOING TO PUT THEM.
AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE, UM, THE ONE ON 1 0 7 CLARK STREET HAS BEEN PUT BACK DOWN ON THE FOUNDATION AND THEY'RE WRAPPING UP THE STEPS AND THE RETROFIT AND THE ELECTRICAL.
UM, THAT'S ONE THAT IF ANYONE WOULD WANT TO RIDE BY AND REALLY SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO BE, UM, THAT'S A GOOD ONE TO GO SEE WHERE WE'RE GOING TO END UP.
UH, THERE ARE TWO UNITS, NUMBER 40 AND NUMBER 74.
THEY'RE PRIORITIES, NUMBER 32 AND 34.
UH, WE HAVE THOSE ON HOLD UNTIL WE ADDRESS ALL THE UNDER-OCCUPIED UNITS.
AND THEN THERE'S A ONE YEAR ONE UNIT WE DISCUSSED LAST, UH, LAST MONTH, UM, THAT THE BID IS HIGHER THAN THE H AND GP BENEFITS.
UH, CONTRACTOR DOES NOT WANT TO LOWER HIS PRICE.
AND WE HAVE ASKED DEM IF THEY WOULD GIVE US SOME SORT OF A WAIVER ON THAT HOUSE TO SOME WAY WE CAN GET IT ELEVATED.
SO WHICH YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH THAT ONE IN BID PACKAGE TO UNIT 17 AND 75.
WE HAVE CONTRACTS IN PROCESSING.
UM, I'VE TAUGHT WITH THOSE TWO OWNERS AS A MATTER OF FACT TODAY, UH, ONE OF THEM LIKE WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND PROCEED THIS, THIS, UH, BEFORE CHRISTMAS.
UM, SO I'M GOING TO MEET WITH HIM THIS WEEK AND HOPEFULLY GETTING THEM STARTED UP CONTRACTOR FOR READY.
UH, THE OTHER WOULD LIKE TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY.
THEY HAVE CHILDREN WOULD NOT LIKE TO BE OUT OF THEIR HOME, UM, UNIT 78.
UM, YOU CAN SEE THE BID LISTED THERE.
UH, WE NEED TO EXAMINE THE COST REASONABLENESS OF THAT BID.
UM, IT'S PROBABLY ANOTHER 50% ABOVE OUR HIGHEST BEDS ON OTHER UNITS, UH, THAT HAS SOME UNIQUE STONE WORK AROUND THE HOME AND SOME OTHER THINGS.
SO WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE.
WHAT'S THE ADDRESS ON THAT HOUSE? 20 22 12 OAKS ROAD.
UNIT 31 TO 36, AGAIN, A RENTAL AND PRIORITIES.
WE HAVE THOSE ON HOLD UNTIL WE ADDRESS THE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS.
THE NEXT PACKAGE, THERE'S SEVEN UNITS THAT SUE AND I MET WITH LAST TUESDAY OF THOSE SEVEN, TWO OF THOSE UNITS.
UH, ONE OF THEM IS VACATED TODAY.
UH, THE OTHER ONE WOULD BE VACATED THIS WEEKEND.
UH, WE'LL SIGN CONTRACTS ON THOSE TOMORROW TO GET THOSE STARTED.
THE CONTRACTOR STARTED READY TO GO.
WE TALKED TO 29, 28 AND 70 PREFERRED TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY.
SO IT WOULDN'T HAVE THEM OUT OF THEIR HOUSE.
UH, THE CONTRACTORS WOULD BE READY TO GO FIRST THING IN JANUARY, OR THERE ARE TWO UNITS, NUMBER FOUR, NUMBER FIVE, WHEN WE OFFERED THEM THE ACQUISITION OPTION.
IN OTHER WORDS, WOULD YOU PREFER TO SELL YOUR HOME VERSUS HAVING IT ELEVATED? THEY ARE STILL EVALUATING THAT OPTION.
UM, UNIT 84, WE STILL NEED TO MEET WITH THAT.
I DON'T INTERRUPT, BUT NOT ABLE TO CONTACT HIM.
UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE I CAN GET UP WITH HIM THIS WEEK.
UH, UNITS 18 TO NINE 18 IS A RENTAL PROPERTY IN HIS OWN HOME.
UM, UNIT 19 IS AN OWNER-OCCUPIED PROPERTY, BUT IT'S ABOVE THE 10 FOOT PROPERTIES AT A PRIOR TO 47.
SO WE HAVE THAT ON HOLD OFFSET.
THE FOURTH PACKAGE OF 10 UNITS WHO RECEIVED BIDS ON DECEMBER 19TH.
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UM, WE'VE GOTTEN SOME INCREASED INTEREST, BEAT BUSHES TO TRY TO FIND SOME MORE ELEVATION CONTRACTORS.AND, UM, WE'VE GOT FIVE VERY INTERESTED ELEVATION CONTRACTORS VERSUS THE TWO GRAY INTERESTED ELEVATION CONTRACTORS THAT WE'VE HAD PREVIOUSLY, WHICH WE'RE REAL EXCITED ABOUT.
UH, THERE'LL BE BID ON DECEMBER 19TH AND WE'LL BE HOPEFULLY BE READY FOR YOUR AWARD AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING, FOLLOWING THAT, STAY THERE INTERESTED IN ELEVATION CONTRACTORS.
DO THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED? YES SIR.
UM, THERE'S ONE FROM EATONTON, ONE FROM GREENVILLE AND ONE FROM GOLDSBORO, THE, UM, PACKAGE FIVE, UH, WE SHOULD BE SENDING THAT UNIT TO DEM FOR APPROVAL IN THE FIRST WEEK OF DECEMBER, THE NEXT YEAR, NEXT WEEK.
SO THEY CAN APPROVE THE DESIGNS AND WE SHOULD ADVERTISE IT TO HOPEFULLY RECEIVE BIDS IN JANUARY.
HOW MANY HOUSES WOULD YOU HAVE DONE? WHAT CONVERSELY, HOW MANY WILL BE LEFT TO BE DONE A TIME HURRICANE SEASON HITS NEXT YEAR, WE WILL BE COMPLETE WITH WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO BY HURRICANE SEASON NEXT YEAR, ALL OF THOSE ORIGINAL HOUSES ON THAT LIST, ALL OF THEM THAT ARE GOING TO BE THAT WILL, WILL BE DONE.
SOME OF THEM MIGHT NOT BE DONE, BUT THE ONES THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED BY THIS PROGRAM, I FEEL VERY CONFIDENT WE'LL BE THROUGH, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS WHO THEY ARE THAT ARE ON THE PROGRAM.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMEBODY THAT COMES UP AN END AND THINKS THE HOUSE WASN'T DONE, BUT THEY WEREN'T ON THE PROGRAM TO START WITH.
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND ALL THAT? HE'S EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY THAT'S.
ONE OF THE 59 HAS BEEN CONTACTED.
THERE MAY BE SOME PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO THINK THEY'RE IN THE PROGRAM THAT AREN'T THE 59, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THEY ARE NOW.
SO OBVIOUSLY I THINK AS I SEE THE BABY OF ACTIVITY THIS WINTER AND THIS SPRING, THEY'LL OBVIOUSLY BE CALLING BECAUSE THERE'LL BE A LOT GOING ON, MAN WAS ON THE ORIGINAL LIST.
THEY'RE 59 ON THE ORIGINAL LIST.
OTHERS HAVE EXPRESSED ACQUISITIONS, BUT THOSE 59, THE ONES WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS ARE THOSE 59.
WE'LL BE THROUGH BY HURRICANE SEASON NEXT YEAR, BUT YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO ALL 59.
IS THAT CORRECT? WE WOULD PROBABLY NOT HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS WITH THE FUNDING WE HAVE RIGHT NOW TO DO ALL 59.
UH, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL UNITS FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER THAT HAVE DROPPED OUT.
UH, SEVERAL OF THEM WERE VACANT FOR ONE REASON OR ANOTHER THAT WE MAY NOT ADDRESS.
SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE HOW OUR FUNDS COME OUT WITH THAT.
WELL, LET ME, LET ME SEE IF I CAN UNDERSTAND THAT 59 NAMES OUT THERE, RIGHT? YES.
YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE NOT SAYING NO, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 59 UNITS DONE BY HURRICANE SEAT.
YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE ONES THAT WE, THAT WE'RE GOING TO DO.
AND HOW MANY OF THOSE ARE THERE OUT OF THE 59? THAT QUOTE UNQUOTE WE'RE GOING TO DO RIGHT NOW? I CAN'T GIVE YOU AN ACCURATE ANSWER BECAUSE I HAVEN'T TALKED WITH ALL THE PEOPLE TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE.
AND SOME OF THE VACANT UNITS MAY FALL OUT.
SO RIGHT NOW IT'S LOOKING AT 35 TO 40, BUT SO THAT MEANS THAT THERE MAY OR MAY NOT, AND PROBABLY ARE SOME PEOPLE WHO THINK THAT THEY ARE IN THE 50, TH THE COUNT WOULD BE DONE.
IT PROBABLY AREN'T IN THE COUNT TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT'S NOT HAPPENING.
WELL, WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU DO, IF YOU COULD, WELL, IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN TO BE DONE BECAUSE IT HELPS.
YOU WON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO IS WHEN YOU DECIDE, WHEN YOU FIGURE OUT WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE THAT ARE GOING TO BE DONE AND THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT AREN'T GOING TO BE DONE AND THE REASONS WHY THEY AREN'T, HOW ABOUT MAKING SURE THOSE PEOPLE MOVED OR NOTIFIED.
SO THEY'RE NOT SITTING THERE EXPECTING THAT THEIR STUFF IS GOING TO BE DONE WHEN IN FACT IT'S NOT GOING TO BE WHOEVER THAT HANDFUL OF WHATEVER
YEAH, I WOULD, UM, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT WE WOULD NOTIFY THOSE PEOPLE IN WRITING, UM, SO THAT THEY WOULD KNOW WHAT, WHAT AND WHY, BUT I MEAN, SOME OF THEM WILL BE RAISED AS LIKE WE HAD X AMOUNT OF MONEY AND WE GOT UP THE HOUSE AND I'M GOING TO, SO, AND SO, AND THERE WASN'T ANY MORE MONEY LEFT.
THAT'LL BE A REASON OR SOME OTHER, WHATEVER.
BUT I MEAN, I JUST THINK, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE THAT, THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE HIS DONE AND NEED TO KNOW IT AND THE PEOPLE THAT ARE NOT GOING TO BE CAUGHT UP IN THIS FIRST GRADE, THEY NEED TO BE AWARE OF THAT TOO.
ANYBODY ELSE GOT, WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT MIKE, UH,
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SENT YOU WERE ON THE AGENDA.I'LL PUT A LITTLE ASTERISK BY THAT.
IT WAS ON AGENDA, BUT HAD NOTHING TO SAY THE CONSENT AGENDA.
AND WE HAD TO PULL ITEMS SIX AND SEVEN BECAUSE THEY TURNED OUT TO TELL A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT NEEDED TO BE STRAIGHTENED OUT.
BEFORE WE GO IN WITH THAT 5, 8, 9.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT NUMBER NINE.
IS THAT A TYPO AT 6:00 AM? OR IS THAT SOMETHING, IS THAT SUPPOSED TO BE PM OR IT WILL BE CLOSED FROM 6:00 AM.
WHAT'S HAPPENED SO EARLY THEN.
WELL, ONE REASON IS ONCE THEY GET IN THERE,
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, NOT PLEASE CALL ME.
I DON'T HAVE ANY APPOINTMENTS IT'S FREE.
I HAVE ONE, UH, BEFORE I GET AN APPLE QUESTION ABOUT THE ELECTRIC SERVICE BOARD, IF I MAKE MY POINT, ARE THEY STILL LIKE VITAL? YEAH, YEAH.
I MEAN, I DON'T HEAR TOO WELL.
I THINK WE'VE GOT A GOOD BOARD AND THEY WORK, BUT THEY RESOLVED, UH, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN WE HAVE UNRESOLVABLE CUSTOMER DISPUTE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEY WORK TO RESOLVE THOSE DISPUTES AND THEY KEEP TRACK OF WHAT'S GOING ON WITH DEREGULATION VARIOUS NIGHT THERE, THEY'RE DOING A GOOD JOB.
WE JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THE VACANCIES ARE FULL.
WE NEED TO KEEP THEM IN TOUCH WITH EVERYTHING TOO PUBLIC.
EXCUSE ME, HAVE SEEN MR. MULLINAX AND OPERATION.
AND HE'S A VERY CONSCIENTIOUS MEMBER ON THAT BOARD.
IF, UH, IF YOU WERE CONSIDERING REAPPOINTED PANEL, THAT'S A LOT OF ADJUSTMENTS I'M GOING TO DO THAT.
YOU JUST REAPPOINT MR.
I SHOULD BE ABLE TO THINK OF SOMETHING.
OKAY, MR.
YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED SEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THE TURNING LANES FROM PINE TREE.
WELL, IT WAS BOULEVARD AND MCCARTHY AND PEOPLE KEEP CALLING ME.
AND FRANKLY, WHEN I GET IN THOSE LANES TOO, I HAVE PROBLEMS. AND YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO CHECK WITH THE STATE ON IT.
AND, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE KEEP TELLING ME, WELL, WE DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
AND I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT IT EITHER.
SO I WOULD DONE ANYTHING ON IT.
I DON'T SEE WHERE THE HELL FIT.
IF, IF, IF THIS BOARD SNAPPING ON.
WELL, I WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU DO IT AGAIN, BECAUSE I DO GET AN AWFUL LOT OF COMPLAINTS ON THAT.
I MEAN, IT MAKES COMMON SENSE FOR THEM TO BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY ARE.
IN ORDER TO KEEP THE TRAFFIC MOVING AND PARTICULARLY ON MCCARTHY IS GETTING TO BE A BIG, BIG PROBLEM COMING FROM TARGET, MAKING A LEFT TURN WHEN ANYBODY'S COMING AROUND STRAIGHT.
SO THEY REALLY NEED MORE OF A TURN IN THE LIGHT THAT THE LANE HAS CHANGED.
AND THAT'S WHAT I WAS ASKING THEM.
I GOT ONE OTHER THING, A LETTER I'D LIKE TO READ, WE DON'T GET VERY MANY OF THESE.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO READ THIS AND PASS IT ON TO BILL THIS IS FROM ONE OF MY CONSTITUENTS IN GREENBRIER SAYS, DEAR BILL, I RECENTLY NEEDED HELP FROM YOUR ANIMAL CONTROL OFFICER TO GET RID OF SOME WILDLIFE THAT WAS TURNING ON MY CAR, BUT A NICE YOUNG LADY.
SHE IS VERY HELPFUL, PLEASANT AND CAPABLE.
SHE IS A CREDIT TO ALL THE GOOD EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY.
I ANSWERED CLEARLY MR. WALKER.
AND I THINK THAT THAT SHOULD BE PASSED ON BECAUSE WE DON'T GET MANY OF THOSE, UH, IN A LOT OF THE AREAS WHEN PEOPLE HAVE TO GO OUT AND TAKE CARE OF THE
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TICKET.SO I I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT FAST.
NEXT THING, MAN IS THE ATTORNEY'S REPORT.
MR. WARREN, I AM ON THE BOARD JUST BY WAY OF EXPLANATION.
WE ARE STILL AWAITING THE FIRST PLACE.
WE'VE GOT TO REACH SOME AGREEMENT WITH RESPECT TO THE TERMS OF THE UTILITY AGREEMENT FAILED.
AND WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED AT TWO O'CLOCK TOMORROW AFTERNOON.
I MET WITH PETE CHARLES AND BOB CHILD'S OFFICE 10 DAYS, TWO WEEKS AGO ABOUT THE MAP SHOWING THE AREA, WHICH HAS TO BE AN ANNEXED.
AND I THINK WE'VE ABOUT GOT THAT STRAIGHTENED OUT.
ALTHOUGH HE HAD NOT YET PROVIDED ME WITH THE PLAT SCRIPT.
HOPEFULLY WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING AT THE FIRST MEETING IN DECEMBER.
ANYTHING ELSE? ONE OTHER THING, THE ROY GAME PROPERTY OUT THERE ON THE CORNER IS GOING TO HAVE TO BE CONDEMNED.
I AM PREPARING A NOTICE TO BE SENT TO MR. MISERY.
I'VE TALKED TO THEIR BRANCH, JIMMY
THAT THE GAME WANTS HIS BROTHER UP IN AN OFFICE, THE AREA TO HANDLE IT POINT.
APPARENTLY HE HAD SOME RATHER SUCCESSFUL EXPERIENCE WITH CONDEMNATION UP THERE AND HE WANTS HIS LAWYER TO COME DOWN HERE AND HELP HIM.
I MEAN, OF WHAT, WHAT PROPERTY EXACTLY YOU TELL HIM ABOUT? I MEAN, I NOTICED THIS PROPERTY UNDER THE ROAD IS 13 ACRES UNDER THE WATER AND THREE POINT SOMETHING ACRES OUT OF THE WATER.
IT, THE PROPERTY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THAT, WHICH IS THE MERGED BY REASON OF THE QUARRYING IN THAT HE HAD A LEASE AGREEMENT WITH MARTIN MARIETTA AND THE 3.09 ACRES IS PROPERTY, WHICH FACES ON THE WATER TO A DEPTH OF A HUNDRED FEET.
AND WHEN YOU SAY A DEPTH OF A HUNDRED FEET, THAT MEANS A HUNDRED FEET IS NOT IN THE WATER CASE.
IN OTHER WORDS, IT GUYS LIKE A WATER LINE UP A HUNDRED FEET STRAIGHT UP ALONG THAT THE WRONG WAY TO ENABLE THAT'S IN PROCESS.
HOW LONG STRIP IS THAT? THIS WAY? I COULDN'T TELL YOU.
I DIDN'T BRING A FILE LIKE DAVID THREE POINT I THINK 3.09 ACRES, AS OPPOSED TO, UH, I WANNA SAY ABOUT 14, 1500 FEET FOR, AND WHAT IS WHAT'S ON IT NOW? IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST A SLOW OVER THERE.
WHERE'S THERE THE PARK SLOPE THERE AND ALL WE'VE GOT CONTROL, UH, POSSIBLY ON THAT AREA OR THE FIVE POUNDER AS WELL.
ANYTHING ELSE? NOTHING ELSE SAY TO MANAGE, UM, MR. MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, TWO ITEMS, NUMBER ONE I CAN TAKE CARE OF.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, I WANT DANNY TO COME AND ADDRESS THE BOARD ON, UH, FIRST IS, UH, THE UPCOMING, UH, NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING NEEDS A VOTING DELEGATE.
UH, ONE HAS NOT BEEN APPOINTED.
AND SO I HAVE A FAX HERE FROM THE LEAGUE OF MUNICIPALITIES SUGGESTING THAT, UH, YOU ALL WOULD APPOINT MAYBE A VOTING DELEGATE IN AN ALTERNATE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND I'LL BE MAYOR PRO TEM FOR ANOTHER WEEK.
MR. MAYOR, I NOMINATED JAY MATTINGLY TO BE VOTING DELEGATES ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION, NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY, AYE.
I SAY, Y'ALL TAKE MY BOAT AND GIVE HIM ANOTHER WHAT'S GOING ON AROUND THIS BLOCK.
UH, MIGHT BE A GOOD IDEA TO DESIGNATE AN ALTERNATE JUST IN CASE JAY
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GOT SICK OR SOMETHING UP THERE THAT I HOPE NOT TOO.THE ULTIMATE THING IS IT ALL STILL MOVES.
UH, AND THEN, UH, LAST THING I HAVE, I LIKE FOR DANNY, JUST TO BRIEF THE BOARD A LITTLE BIT ABOUT HIGHWAY 17 AND THE LIGHTS AND MAYBE SOME OTHER LIGHTS SITUATION THAT'S GOING ON HERE IN TOWN.
YEAH, I, I DID GET ON A CALL TO VOT.
I THINK IT WAS MONDAY AND, UH, TO KIND OF UPDATE US ON THE MANY REQUESTS THAT THE BOARD OF AD, BUT ONE, ONE OF THOSE REQUESTS WAS NOT MENTIONED AND I DIDN'T THINK TO ASK ABOUT IT, BUT, BUT THEY ARE WORKING ON, ON OUR MANY REQUESTS AND TRYING TO KEEP US UPDATED ON WHAT'S GOING ON.
SO I, THERE WAS ONE INCIDENT OR SITUATION THAT I ASKED IF THEY WOULD AT LEAST LET ME BRIEF THE BOARD ON BEFORE THEY MADE ANY CHANGES OR TOOK ANY ACTION.
BUT, UH, JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW OF, OF, OF WHERE WE'RE AT.
UH, THE BOARD HAS REVIEWED OR NCD.
OT HAS REVIEWED THE AREA BROAD STREET FROM EAST FRONT TO FIVE POINTS WHERE THEY HAVE PUT THE SEVERAL LIGHTS ON FLASH AND, UH, THEY HAVE DONE ANOTHER STUDY AND, AND FEEL THAT THE, UH, TRAFFIC IS SUCH THAT, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND REMOVE THOSE LIGHTS THAT ARE ON FLASH AND INSTALLED THE STOP SIGNS AND THE EXISTING SIGNALS THAT ARE OPERATING NOW WILL REMAIN AS THEY ARE.
UH, THEY'RE ALSO LOOKING AT, UH, THE PORTION OF POLLOCK STREET IN FRONT OF THE, UH, TRY AND PALACE.
UH, THOSE TWO SIGNALS THERE, THE ONE THAT GEORGE AND POLLOCK, AND WHEN IT CATHERINE POLLACK, WE'RE ALSO ON THE NCD DLT SYSTEM.
UH, THEY IN THE INITIAL STUDY, UH, NEITHER ONE OF THOSE MEANT WARRANTS FOR SIGNALIZATION EVEN.
AND THEY HAVE AGAIN, STUDIED THAT AND, AND THEY ARE IN THE PROCESS OF, OF LOOKING AT REMOVING THOSE AND, UH, WHAT THEY WOULD, UH, WHAT THEY ARE, WHAT THEY ADVISE ME THAT THEY WERE GOING TO REPLACE THAT WITH IS A THREE-WAY STOP AT GEORGIAN POLLOCK AND A FOUR-WAY STOP AT POLYCON METCALF.
UH, I WAS VERY QUICK, LET THEM KNOW.
I ALWAYS LET THIS BOARD KNOW ABOUT MY FEELINGS OF FOUR WAY STOPS, UH, BECAUSE MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW HOW TO FUNCTION AT ONE.
THEY JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND, UH, WHO HAS THE RIGHT OF WAY.
AND, UH, BASICALLY IN THE MANUAL OF UNIFORM TRAFFIC CONTROL DEVICES, FOR WAY STOPS WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE UTILIZED.
UH, IN INSTANCES WHEN THERE ARE NOT SIGNALS IN THEIR SIGNALS NEEDED AND JUST IN A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE SIGNALS GO UP.
BUT I, I DID, UH, PERSONALLY, UH, LET MY CONCERN BE KNOWN THAT IF THEY WERE GOING TO REMOVE THE SIGNALS AND REPLACED THEM WITH FOUR WAY STOPS, THE THREE-WAY STOPS.
AT LEAST MYSELF PERSONALLY, UH, WOULD HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF THIS, BUT I TOLD THEM, I'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE THEY TOOK ANY ACTION.
DOESN'T MEAN THEY STILL CAN'T TAKE THEIR ACTION.
BUT IF, IF THIS, IF THE BOARD, UH, WOULD LIKE TO GO ON RECORD AS, AS OPPOSING THAT I'LL PUT THAT IN YOUR LETTER ON, I'M GOING TO ASK YOU EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE OPPOSING OR YOU OPPOSED AND TAKEN DOWN THE SIGNAL LIGHT AND REPLACING IT WITH FOUR STOP SIGNS, OR ARE YOU JUST OPPOSING, YOU'RE NOT AGAINST TAKING THE SAME, MAN.
YOU JUST DON'T WANT HALLWAY STOP SIGNS.
WELL, THEY'VE GOT A WHOLE LOT MORE KNOWLEDGE IN, IN, IN, IN, UH, TRAFFIC PLANNING AND, AND, UH, TRAFFIC MOVEMENT THAN I DO.
SO I, I DON'T DOUBT THAT THE SIGNAL IS NOT WARRANTED.
MY, THE CONCERN I HAVE WITH REMOVING BOTH THOSE SIGNALS, UH, NUMBER ONE, WITHOUT SOME MEANS OF SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC IS YOU'VE GOT SO MUCH PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AROUND TRY AND PALISADE REALTY HORRENDOUS, UH, AND ALSO JUST OPEN UP A STRAIGHT SHOT AND MORE TRAFFIC THROUGH THAT AREA AND SPEEDING AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
UH, IF IN FACT THEY FEEL LIKE THOSE SIGNALS NEED TO REPEAT, BE REMOVED.
UH, MY PERSONAL FEELING IS, IS, IS, UH, JUST A GENERAL SET UP A STOP HE'S ON PAULA FOR METCALF, YOU KNOW, BUT NOT A FOUR WAY STOP, UH, BECAUSE NOBODY KNOWS HOW TO OPERATE THAT.
WHAT'S GOING TO BE DOWN HERE ON BROAD STREET, UH, BY THE, WELL RIGHT DOWN THIS STREET WHERE THE COURTHOUSE IS A STOP SIGN, A STOP SIGN.
BROAD STREET, BROAD STREET ON RAVEN STREET IS THE STOP STRIPPING.
ON PROMO STRAIGHT, THERE'S GOING TO BE NOTHING.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN YOU TRY TO CROSS FROM HERE AND GO TO THE COURTHOUSE, YOU JUST HAD TO TAKE YOUR CHANCES.
WELL, YOU HAVE TO WATCH WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT,
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UH, BUT THE TRAFFIC IS SUCH THAT IF THE TRAFFIC IS SUCH A, IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT YOU'RE DOING, YOU CAN GET ACROSS.BUT IF THERE IS CONCERN, IF THERE IS A CONCERN, YOU'D GO TO MIDDLE STREET WHERE THERE'S A SIGNAL LINE AND ACROSS ON THE SIXTH, LET ME TELL YOU SOMETHING.
UH, WHAT WAS IT A WEEK AGO OR SOMETHING? I FORGET, MADD MOTHERS AGAINST DRUNK DRIVING THING.
AND I WAS SUPPOSEDLY TO SAY A FEW WORDS AND DID SOME OTHERS DID.
AND I MYSELF HAD A PROBLEM GETTING ACROSS THE STREET AND GETTING BACK ACROSS THE STREET.
AND SO DID QUITE A FEW OF US, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO TRY TO NAVIGATE IT.
AND THE REASON I SAY I MYSELF WAS I DON'T PAY IT TO THE COURTHOUSE, UH, ALL THAT MUCH, ESPECIALLY AS I GOT OLDER, I MEAN, WELL, THAT'S ANOTHER, BUT ANYWAY, UH, YOU KNOW, KINDA HAD A REAL REAL-WORLD EXPERIENCE FOR GOING DOWN THERE.
AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND IF WE, IF WE GOT THIS NEW BRIDGE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE THROUGH TRAFFIC BY MY DEFINITION, OVER THE BRIDGE AND THE GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE AND ALL THIS BUSINESS OVER THE RIVER, WHAT IS THE, IS THE GREAT, UH, MOVING FORCE AND, AND KEEPING THIS, THIS, THIS IS GREAT FLOW OF TRAFFIC FLUID.
HOW MANY WHATSOEVER, AS OPPOSED TO GIVING SOMEBODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO CROSS THE STREETS WELL, AND THIS MONEY, UH, AGAIN, IN, IN THEIR STUDY OF THE, OF THE REMOVAL OF THE SIGNALS, BUT DESPERATELY MOVEMENT WAS ALSO A PART OF THAT STEP.
SO THEY'RE, THEY'RE SAYING THAT EVEN THOUGH, AND THAT'S WHY THEY LEFT THE STRATEGICALLY SPACE SIGNALS ALONG THE WAY.
UH, NONE OF THIS, NONE OF THE SIGNALS ALONG BROAD STREET WARRANTED REMAINING IN THEIR STUFF, THE ONES THAT ARE REMOVED, THEY HAVE NOT PUT IN THE STUDY.
AND ACCORDING TO ALL THE, UH, TRAFFIC ENGINEERING FORMULAS AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT THEY'VE WORKED BY, IN THE REMOVAL OF THOSE AT CRAVEN STREET, THERE IS NO UNDUE DANGER PLACED ON THE PEDESTRIAN MOVING ACROSS BROAD STREET.
AT TIMES THERE WAS A LOT OF TRAFFIC.
THEY HAVE NO DOUBT ABOUT IT AND YOU NEED TO PAY ATTENTION, BUT WE WERE VERY STRONG OR WE WERE VERY PLAIN IN THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED TO HAVE SOME, SO FARMERS IN THESE, IN THESE SIGNALS.
SO THAT'S WHY MIDDLE STREET WAS LED.
SHOULD IT HAVE BEEN CRAVING STREET AND ON THAT.
BUT, UH, WE, WE FELT THERE WAS MORE, UH, BUSINESS UP AND DOWN MIDDLE STREET AND TRAFFIC MOVING THERE.
SO WE SAID, LEAVE THE ONE AT MIDDLE STREET.
UH, MAYBE WE SHOULD TALK TO THEM AND MOVE IT BACK TO CRAVEN STREET.
AND THAT METAL STREET, MIDDLE STREET BE THE ONE WITH MAYOR.
ARE YOU SPEAKING OF AUTO TRAFFICKER, PASSING UP PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC, BOTH.
IN OTHER WORDS, IF IT WAS MY WALDO TRAFFIC, I WOULDN'T BE CONCERNED ABOUT PEDESTRIAN.
WELL, I HAVEN'T HAD AS MUCH TROUBLE WITH GETTING ACROSS IN A CAR.
AS I HAVE WALKING ACROSS WALKING IS BECAUSE OF THE CAR TRAFFIC TRUCK.
BUT I MEAN, CROSSING IN THE CARS, BUT I CAN SEE THE PROBLEM.
THAT'S TRUE, BUT THE NEEDS, BUT THE NEED TO REMOVE, AT LEAST IN THE TRAFFIC ENGINEERS, MIND THE NEED TO REMOVE THE SIGNALS AND OPEN UP THE FLOW IS YOU'RE SAVING MONEY WHEN YOU'RE STOPPING AND STARTING YOU'RE, YOU'RE, YOU'RE CREATING MORE GAS, YOU'RE CREATING MORE EMISSIONS, ALL THESE OTHER THINGS THAT GO ON ATMOSPHERE, THE COST, UH, NOT ONLY OF, OF THE MOTORING PUBLIC, BUT ALSO THE COST OF DLT.
AND LET, LET, LET ME, LET ME, LET ME SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.
AGAIN, I'M NOT A TRAFFIC INDIVIDUAL, BUT I WILL SAY, AND LET'S JUST THINK ABOUT IT FROM A HUMAN PHYSICS STANDPOINT, RIGHT? IN ORDER TO CROSS THAT STREET AND INDEPENDENT ON YOUR AGE, YOU HAVE MOBILITY.
IF YOU WILL, AND ABILITY TO DEPTH PERCEPTION AND EVERYTHING ELSE, EITHER YOU GOT DETERMINED, THERE'S NO TRAFFIC COMING.
HE GOES, YOU WERE A LITTLE SLOWER THAN YOU USED TO BE, AND YOU CAN'T JUDGE THE DEPTH FROM THIS TYPE OF THING, OR YOU SEE ONCOMING TRAFFIC, BUT YOU DECIDE THAT IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY AND IT'S SLOW ENOUGH SPEED.
AND ALL I'M SAYING IS THAT EACH TIME THAT YOU CROSSED OUT EIGHT OF A LIGHTER IN A SUCH THING AS THAT EVERY INDIVIDUAL THAT CROSSES HAS TO MAKE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS.
AND ALL I'M SAYING IS WITH THE GROUP THAT IT WAS OVER THERE THAT DAY, WE WENT TO VARIOUS AGES AND THIS AND THAT AND THE OTHER, IT WAS NOT AN EASY THING TO DO TO GET EVERYBODY ACROSS THAT STREET.
AND WHAT I FELT LIKE WAS A SAFE MANNER.
NOW, COULD YOU NOT MAKE THE CASE THAT IN ORDER TO SAVE GAS, SAVE EMISSIONS, UH, LAST OF THEM OF AN IMPEDIMENT TO THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND SO FORTH THAT YOU MAKE THE, THE DURATION OF THE LIGHT SHORT AND THE DURATION THAT THE LIGHT IS GREEN A LONG TIME THERE.
AND SINCE WE WERE RECOGNIZED, IN OTHER WORDS, LETTING THE PEDESTRIAN WAIT A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THEY NORMALLY WOULD HAVE TO, BUT AT LEAST GIVE HIM A LIGHT, YOU KNOW, PUT THE BURDEN ON HIM, THE WAY TO ASK HER MAN AND OR WHATEVER.
BUT NOW HE'S GOT A LIGHT AND THAT WOULD KEEP THE TRAFFIC FLOWING A WHOLE LOT BETTER THAN JUST A MOMENT CYCLING
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OF LIGHTS, BUT AT LEAST GIVE YOU A SAFE OPPORTUNITY TO GET ACROSS THE STREET I DON'T WITH.THAT'S NOT, NO, THAT'S NOT, THIS IS NOT YOUR POSITION.
THEY NEED TO LEAN SOME OF THOSE LIKES BECAUSE AT BROUGHTON HANCOCK, YOU A LOT OF ELDERLY FOLKS IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT AND THEY CROSS OVER FROM BROAD AND HANCOCK STREET, MORE SO AT BROAD AND CRAVEN.
AND THOSE CALLS FLY COMING THROUGH, UH, BROADENS YOUR HANCOCK.
THEY GO AT AN ACCELERATED PACE.
MAYBE THEY DON'T, THEY'LL MAKE A MISTAKE.
WE MEET WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL THAT YOU DID THAT MAKES THESE DECISIONS.
CAN YOU BRING HIM TO ONE OF OUR WORK SESSIONS OR WHATEVER AND LET US WORK ON IT? I MEAN, I, MOST CERTAINLY WE CAN, WE CAN DEFINITELY HAVE VOT MEET, UH, PLEASED ONE, ONE THING, AND AGAIN, NOT TRYING TO DEFEND THEM, BUT YOU KNOW, THEY DEAL WITH SIGNALS ALL OVER THE STATE AND YOU KNOW, WHAT THEY JUST FACED OVER IN, IN, UH, BRIDGESTONE AND WHETHER THEY WILL RIDE A WELL, THEY WERE WRONG.
I DON'T KNOW, BUT THEY'RE BASING THEIR DECISIONS TOTALLY UPON TRANSPORTATION AND TRAFFIC ENGINEERING, UH, TRIED IMPROVED, UH, WAYS ANYMORE.
UH, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSEDLY POLITICS IS NOT DEALING IN SIGNALS ANYMORE.
I, TO MEET WITH THEM, I CAN, I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE CAN, WE CAN GET A MEETING SET UP OR WHATEVER.
MAYBE WE'VE CHANGED WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING ON DOING.
I DON'T HAVE, I MEAN, LET ME SAY THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE MEET WITH THEM AND I'M NOT SURE EVEN AFTER BEING IN THIS OFFICE SINCE 93, EXACTLY WHAT POLITICS MEANS WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT POLITICS, GETTING INTO INTERFERING OR GETTING TO BE A PART OF IT.
BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THAT WHETHER I WAS A MAYOR OR JUST AN INDIVIDUAL WHO TRIED TO CROSS THE STREET, THAT MY FEELINGS ABOUT THE SITUATION WOULD BE EXACTLY THE SAME.
AND I DO FEEL LIKE IF WE DON'T PRESENT AS A BOARD OR HOWEVER MANY ON THIS BOARD, FEEL THIS WAY ABOUT IT, TO THOSE PEOPLE THAT WE WOULD NOT BE DOING, NOT JUST IDEAS, BUT AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, BECAUSE I TRULY BELIEVE WHAT I WANT TO JUST TOLD HIM.
I MEAN, FROM BEING IN THIS SITUATION MYSELF, THAT WAS MY, A GOOD FEELING.
AND IF YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE STREET IN DOWNTOWN NEWBURGH AND YOU CAN'T REALLY FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT, AND SOMETHING'S TELLING YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING'S NOT RIGHT ABOUT, WELL, ALL I CAN SAY IS DURING, AND I THINK YOU'VE BEEN ON FLASH FOR TWO MONTHS NOW, AT LEAST, AND I'VE NOT, I'VE NOT PERSONALLY HAD ANY COMPLAINTS.
I KNOW MR. HARBIN BEFORE THE BOARD A FEW MEETINGS AGO AND WE ADDRESS THOSE WITH DLT AND THOSE ISSUES.
AND THEY ASSURED US THAT ALL THE PEDESTRIAN CONCERNS WERE TAKEN IN CONSIDERATION WITH ALL OF THEIR STUDIES AND SO ON AND SO FORTH.
BUT I'VE NOT HAD ANY COMPLAINTS.
THAT'S FINE, BUT I'LL TELL YOU, I WOULD NOT HAVE PUT AS MUCH CREDIBILITY IN IT JUST AS A, AS A, AS A, UH, LET'S JUST SAY A DEBATE.
AND UNLESS I PERSONALLY HAD BEEN INVOLVED CROSSING THE STREET FOR SALE AND THAT, AND THAT BRINGS THE REALITY OF IT TO YOU.
LIKE I SAID, HE WAS SOME, SOME YOUNGER FOLKS, A LITTLE BIT OLDER FOLKS AND SOME OF US HOPEFULLY IN THE MIDDLE OR WHATEVER, AND IT WAS NOT A FUN THING, CROSSING THE STREET.
I WILL DEFINITELY CALL HIM TOMORROW AND ASK HIM NOT TO MAKE ANY MORE MOVEMENTS IN REMOVING ANYTHING UNTIL THEY, UH, SET UP THE TIME THEY CAN MEET WITH THIS BOARD.
WHAT I LIKE I'D LIKE FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THAT PILATES TOO, BECAUSE WE HAVE SCHOOL KIDS OR TOURISTS GOING DOWN THERE.
WE HAVE TOUR BUSES DOWN THERE, YOU HAVE TOURISTS CROSSING THE STREETS.
AND IF YOU TAKE THOSE LIGHTS RIGHT OUT OF THE FRONT OF THE PALACE AND RELY ON PEOPLE TO STOP IT AND REAL ACROSS THE FOUR, THE CAR FIRST GETS STARTED.
THAT TO ME IS MORE IMPORTANT OF ANYONE THAT WE TALKING ABOUT, BUT SEE IF THEY, IF THE HEY WILL, LIKE BILL'S TALKING ABOUT LANDING, THEY WANT TO MAKE IT A LONGER CYCLE SO THAT THE CAR HAS HAD MORE OF AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP ON MOVING BEFORE THE GUY GETS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WALK, HEY, WAIT, YOU'D WAIT.
BUT, BUT YOU KNOW, TO JUST SAY, I JUST DID.
AT THE VERY LEAST THEY AREN'T THERE TO REALLY EXTEND THE STUDY BECAUSE NOW I'M THINKING WITH THE, UH, THE CIVIC CENTER ALREADY OPEN, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSEDLY WILL HAVE AN INCREASE IN TOURISM.
AND THE OTHER RESULT, WE MIGHT HAVE AN INCREASE IN WALKING TRAFFIC DOWNTOWN.
BUT I TELL YOU, MY OFFICE IS RIGHT AT THE INTERSECTION OF HANCOCK AND BROAD AND, UH, ELDERLY FOLKS.
THEY ARE IT'S, THEY, THEY CATCH UP, THEY CATCH A IT'S A HOUSE FOR THEM CROSSING THE STREET.
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YEAH.I FEEL SURE THAT THEY'LL TELL US THAT THEY'D BE WILLING FOR US TO TAKE THAT STREET OVER AND PUT IT ON OUR SISTER AND THEN US TO MAINTAIN THOSE LIGHTS AND EVERYTHING.
ANYTIME WE WANT TO, I'M SURE THAT'S WHAT THEY
THEY WILL SAY, IF WE WON'T TAKE YOUR ROAD OVER AND TAKE THE COST OF IT, THEN THEY ARE CERTAINLY WILLING FOR US TO PUT IT ON OUR SITE.
WELL, I THINK MOST OF THOSE, MOST OF THOSE SHOULD BE REMOVED.
HAVE THEY ADDRESSED THE ISSUE OF PUSH-BUTTON LIGHTS FOR PEDESTRIANS? IT SEEMS PEDESTRIANS HAVE MORE TROUBLE THAN CARS DO.
UH, AGAIN, WITH THE SPEED ON BROAD STREET AND THE NUMBER OF TRACKS OF VEHICLES ON BROAD STREET, AS THEY'VE STUDIED IT PRIOR TO THE REMOVAL AND AFTER THE REMOVAL, THEY JUST COMPLETED ANOTHER STUDY.
THEY SAY THERE IS NO DANGER TO THE PUBLIC.
AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THERE, THERE ARE DEFINITELY TIMES.
AND, AND IF YOU CLOSE YOUR EYES AND WALK OUT OF HERE, HE'S DANGEROUS.
BUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I HAVEN'T HAD, BUT AGAIN, BY THEIR METHODS, THERE IS NO DANGER TO THE PUBLIC IN CROSSING WHERE IT IS UNSAFE TO NEW METHODS.
THEY ARE, THERE ARE SIGNALS LEFT, WHICH WERE NOT WARRANTED TO GIVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE THOSE CONCERNS, A SAFE PLACE THAT THEY CAN GO UP TO THAT LIGHT AND CROSS UNDER SECRETS IS THE MENTALITY THAT THEY'RE USING NOW, WHETHER THAT'S RIGHT OR EVERYBODY DROVE AT 25 THOUGH, DADDY LIKE, LIKE A SIGN, SAY, YOU WOULDN'T MEET A PROBLEM, BUT HOW MANY DRIVES THAT SWIM? I MEAN, THAT'S AN ENFORCEMENT.
ONE OFF, BUT WE ASKED THEM THAT QUESTION AND THAT SHOULD HAVE THE ANSWER.
I THINK IF WE CAN GET HIM TO BRING SOMEONE AS REPRESENTATIVE IN A WORK SESSION TO DISCUSS IT, I THINK WE WILL OUT A LITTLE BIT WISELY DIRECTLY TO THEM.
CAUSE DANNY, AND LET ME, LET ME SAY THIS TO DANNY, PLEASE, WHOEVER YOU BRING, PLEASE BRING SOMEONE WHO CAN MAKE THE DECISION, NOT JUST DEFEND THE POSSESSION.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? GUYS JUST DON'T COME IN AND DEFEND THE PREDICTION.
YOU KNOW, I'M JUST WORRIED ABOUT MY MANDIBLES.
IS THERE A PLAN TO RECONFIGURE BROAD STREET TO NARROW IT? I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE ALL THERE ALL SORTS OF PLANS.
AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S ANOTHER THING.
VOT IS, UH, WE HAD REQUESTED THE POSSIBILITY OF UTILIZING A PORTION OF BROAD STREET FOR ON STREET PARKING IN ANTICIPATION OF EXTRA NEEDED PARKING BECAUSE THE CONVENTION CENTER OR WHATEVER, UH, THEY ARE, UH, THEY HAVE COMMITTED THEMSELVES TO A STUDY OF THAT.
SO THAT IS ONE PHASE OF POSSIBILITY OF DOING SOMETHING WITH NARROWLY BROAD STREET, BUT IN, IN THE URBAN DESIGN PLAN, WHICH WOULD BE KICKED OFF HERE VERY SHORTLY, UH, THERE'D BE UPDATE ALL THOSE THINGS GOING TO BE LOOKED AT AND THE POSSIBILITY OF NARROWING DOWN, OR AT LEAST, UH, CALMING, PUTTING SOME CALMING TYPE THINGS OUT THERE.
ALL, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE, ARE OPEN AND, UH, BUT, BUT THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING DOWN SPEED LIMIT 35, 25.
THE LAST THING, WHICH I HOPE WON'T BE QUITE AS CONTROVERSIAL AS THE SIGNALS.
BUT, UH, THERE WAS A COUPLE OF MEETINGS AGO.
YOU REQUESTED TO LOOK AT THE SPEED ALONG, UM, ML KING BOULEVARD, UH, THAT IS, THAT STUDY IS AN ONGOING, UH, HE'S THROWN OUT.
YOU KNOW, THEY LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF SCENARIOS, SAME ONE ALDERMAN RAINER HAD THAT, YOU KNOW, AT TIMES TWO 30, DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PULL IT DOWN.
AND, AND, AND IN ALL REALITY, IF IT'S 55 AND YOU CAN'T GO, BUT 25, WHAT DIFFERENCES MAKE IF IT'S 55, BUT RIGHT NOW JUST THEY'RE, THEY'RE KIND OF LEANING TOWARD, UH, CHANGING.
I THINK IT'S 55 NOW, RIGHT ON UP TO THE MALL.
UH, I THINK THEY'RE LOOKING AT LOWERING AT LEAST FROM THE MALL OUT TO TWO 50, BUT THEY'RE NOT THROWING OUT A POSSIBILITY OF 45.
I THINK IT BREAKS 50 AT A RACETRACK ROAD MAJOR.
BUT, UH, BUT ANYWAY, THEY, THEY ARE STUDYING THAT.
THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ON THAT, BUT JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THEY ARE PURSUING THAT ALSO, AND I WILL FIND SOMEONE TOMORROW AND SEE HOW QUICK WE CAN GET SOMEONE TO MEET BEFORE.
JUST ASK HIM THAT QUESTION HAS BEEN REQUESTED AND HE CAN'T MAKE A DECISION.
HE BROUGHT HIMSELF, WE DON'T GET I'M SURE.
HE MAKES DECISIONS, BUT HE DON'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISIONS.
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I DON'T KNOW IF WE GET SECRETARY WITH WE'RE HERE OR NOT.WE MIGHT HAVE TO TRY MR. MAYOR.
WE HAVE SEVERAL PEOPLE IN THE AUDIENCE THAT, UH, HAVE NOT SPOKEN ON ANYTHING WE'VE COME TO YET.
DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS SOMETHING I WANTED TO DO.
REMEMBER THAT WAS GOING AGAINST HIM.
HE WOULDN'T HAVE A PETITION, SAYS ANYTHING ELSE? I MOVE, WE ADJOURN ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE,