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A LIFE AND WITH A PRAYER BY DR.

STEPHEN COBB AT TEMPLE BAPTIST CHURCH, LET US PRAY.

OUR HEAVENLY FATHER.

WE PAUSE FOR A MOMENT HERE THAT SAVED INTO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR GREATNESS.

WE KNOW THE CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH AND EVERYTHING IN IT IS OUR HEAVENLY FATHER TONIGHT.

AND WE WANT TO KNOW, AND WE WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT WE LOVE YOU, AND WE WANT TO INVITE YOU HERE AT THIS MEETING.

I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR A GREAT CITY CALLED NEWBURN.

ITS BEAUTY IS UNMATCHED.

IT'S PEOPLE WONDERFUL.

I CAN'T THINK OF A FINER PLACE TO RAISE A FAMILY.

THERE'S MANY, UH, AMENITIES, WONDERFUL THINGS PROVIDED FOR US HERE.

AND A LOT OF THE REASONS THEY ARE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE BEFORE US TONIGHT.

I PRAY FOR THE MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER AND THE ALDERMAN DISTRICT ATTORNEY AND ALL THE POWERS THAT BE BECAUSE WE KNOW THERE'S NO AUTHORITY INSTITUTED AMONG MEN EXCEPT THAT WHICH YOU HAVE ESTABLISHED FATHER.

I KNOW THEY WANT TO MAKE GOOD AND FAIR AND GODLY DECISIONS.

THERE'S A LOT OF INFLUENCES AND SOMETIMES THAT'S NOT EASY.

THERE'S DIFFERENT VIEWPOINTS AND OPINIONS.

AND I JUST PRAY THAT THEY CAN SEE AN OBJECTIVITY THROUGH IT, ALL THAT, TO THE BEST OF THEIR GOD-GIVEN ABILITY, THIS IS WHAT THEY THINK IS BEST.

AND THAT WE, AS A PEOPLE WOULD PRAY FOR THEM AND RESPECT THEM AND BE GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED THROUGH THEIR LEADERSHIP.

SO I'LL PRAY FOR THIS MEETING TONIGHT THAT IT WILL BE A PRODUCTIVE ONE AND THAT IT WILL BE ONE OF CIVILITY.

AND SO WE COMMITTED TO YOU AND I PRAY THIS.

AND THE ONLY WAY I KNOW HOW TO PRAY IN THE NAME OF JESUS.

AMEN.

CALL ROLAND, PLEASE.

MA'AM HERE, HERE, HERE, HERE.

I NEED TO TELL Y'ALL A FUNNY STORY.

BEFORE WE GET STARTED AT NIGHT, AS I SAY, IT'S PREYING ON MY MIND, BUT ON TUESDAY NIGHTS, MY WIFE PLAYS CARDS.

SO I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS MYSELF.

AND, UH, MR. RYAN HAS SAID, I DID PRETTY GOOD AT NIGHT.

I APPRECIATE THAT.

BUT Y'ALL ARE GOING TO HEAR SOMETHING THE NIGHT BEFORE SHE HEARS IT, SAY I'VE BEEN THINKING FOR THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS THAT I'VE HAD SOME SORT OF A STRANGE MEDICAL PROBLEM.

I WOULD GET UP AND I'D PUT ON MY CLOTHES.

AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER IT WAS SOME SORT OF A DMO WHAT WAS GOING ON, BUT MY FEET SEEM TO BE SWELLING.

AND, UH, I'M JUST SO HAPPY TONIGHT.

I FINALLY I'VE READ MEDICAL BOOKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AND I THOUGHT I HAD IT NARROWED DOWN AND I FINALLY FOUND OUT THE NIGHT WHAT IT IS AND I'M JUST TICKLED TO DEATH.

I CAN'T WAIT TO TELL HER WHEN I GET HOME, THEN PLEASE ASK HER.

DON'T EVER PUT HER SOCKS IN MY DRAWER.

WITH MY FEET AND I'M SICK, BUT ANYWAY, WE'LL RECOVER, BUT I'M JUST TICKLED TO DEATH.

I KNEW SOMETHING WAS WRONG.

THEY WON'T PUT ABOUT THAT LIE.

AND I'M THE MAYOR.

BUT ANYWAY, TONIGHT AS IT GIVES ME GREAT PLEASURE TO PRESENT TO A MAN THAT I'VE COME TO ADMIRE IN MY ROLE AS MAYOR, I DIDN'T KNOW HIM BEFORE I BECAME THE MAYOR, BUT I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW HIM AND I LIKED FOR HIM TO COME FORWARD TONIGHT.

AND THAT'S MR. STEVE HICKS, IF YOU WILL COME UP HERE TO THE PODIUM.

SO, UH, WE CAN SAY A FEW WORDS.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO TAKE A FEW SHOTS.

I MAY NOT SAY A FEW WORDS AFTERWARDS, BE MY GUEST, BUT I LIKE TO SAY FOR, FOR ALL THE FOLKS THAT, UH, MAYBE IN THE AUDIENCE, SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT COME UP TO ME AND AMAZINGLY TELL ME THEY WATCH US ON CHANNEL TEAM AND, UH, YOU KNOW, ENJOY SOME OF IT AND SO FORTH.

AND WE HAVE FUN DOING IT.

AND I JUST LIKE TO MAKE A FEW STEAKS.

AND THAT IS THE FOLLOWING THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT WHEN THEY WATCH A FOOTBALL GAME, THEN THEY SEE

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SOME BIG TACKLE, RUN OVER A GUY AND KNOCK HIM DOWN, YOU KNOW, AND THEY'LL GO, MAN HAS A REAL MAN.

AND UH, MR. RAYNA COMES OUT TO MY HOUSE AND WE WATCH AMANDA HOLYFIELD.

AND SOME OF THE GUYS SLUG IT OUT FOR 10 OR 12 ROUNDS AND GET UP OFF THE GROUND AND GO AT IT AGAIN WITH THE HEART ON THE LINE.

AS I'VE SAID, MANY TIMES, WE KNOW HE'S A REAL MAN, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING AND PEOPLE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS, THAT OFTENTIMES THE TEST OF A REAL MAN, UH, COMES ABOUT AND, AND OPPORTUNITIES WE GET EVERY DAY AND IT MIGHT NOT BE KNOCKING SOMEBODY DOWN OR WE'LL BE IN A BIG BRUISING DIAPER FELL OR WHATEVER.

AND I JUST LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT WHEN THE CITY OF NEW WIND IS CALLED UPON STEVE HICKS TO DO SOME THINGS FOR US.

AND A LOT OF TIMES IT WASN'T, AS THEY SAY IN HIS JOB DESCRIPTION, IT WASN'T PART OF HIM BEING THE HEAD OF THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE, ANY OF THAT TYPE OF THING.

AND SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE ASKED HIM TO DO FOR US, UH, REQUIRED A LOT OF, UH, INTELLIGENCE, DEDICATION, AND WILLINGNESS TO JUST DO THE RIGHT THING.

AND THE THING THAT REALLY ALWAYS AMAZED ME ABOUT STEVE IS HE ALWAYS DID WHAT WAS THE RIGHT THING? IT DIDN'T MATTER IF NINE PEOPLE WANTED IT.

AND ONE DIDN'T, IF IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO, HE DID IT.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADMIRED AND, UH, AND TALKED ABOUT.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHY TONIGHT, THIS BOARD WANTS TO HONESTY BY GIVING HIM IN HIS PROCLAMATION, I'M GOING TO READ, AND THEN I'M GOING TO GIVE HIM A LITTLE SURPRISE OVER HERE THAT, UH, I'VE NEVER DONE THIS BEFORE, BUT READ THE PROCLAMATION, BUT WHAT I'M GOING TO DO THAT.

SO STEVE, THIS IS THE PROCLAMATION IT SAYS, WHEREAS STEVE HICKS HAS SERVED THE COMMUNITY WELL FOR MANY YEARS, AS PRESIDENT OF CHAMBER OF COMMERCE IS BEGUN TO KNOW THE CAREER AS AN OWNER OF BURKE VIRTUAL CONCEPTS INCORPORATED.

AND WHEREAS HIS CAREER AND HIS WHOLE HEARTED PARTICIPATION IN MANY CIVIC AND CHARITABLE FUNCTIONS AT MORAN FOR HIM, THE RESPECT OF A HOST OF AREA RESIDENTS REPRESENTING ALL AGES AND ALL WALKS OF LIFE.

AND WHEREAS THE PERFORMANCE OF HIS DUTIES, RESPONSIBILITIES AND HIS WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WERE ALWAYS CHARACTERIZED BY AN OBVIOUS DEDICATION TO GET ANY JOB WELL DONE.

AND WHEREAS STEVE HAS ALWAYS ANSWERED THE CITY'S CALL WHEN THEY NEED AND SERVE WITH COURAGE TO DO THE RIGHT THING.

WHEREAS THE CITY OF NEWBURN WILL FOREVER BE IN HIS DEATH FOR HIS HEALTH.

WHEREAS STEVE'S DEDICATED INTEREST AND DEVOTION TO DUTY HAVE HAD A VALUABLE EFFECT IF EFFICIENCY AND MORALE NOW, THEREFORE ITA BAYLESS, MAYOR OF THE CITY OF NEW WIND ON BEHALF OF THE NEWMAN BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND OUR CITIZENS EXTENDED CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR NEW ENDEAVOR AND EXTEND SINCERE.

THANKS FOR MANY YEARS OF LOYAL SERVICE IS PRESENT IN THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

SO STEVE PRESENT THIS TO YOU.

WE WERE GOING TO DO THIS AS THE PAPER SAT IN THE LAST MEETING, BUT I'VE HAD WHAT I BELIEVE WAS PNEUMONIA AND TIGHT SOCKS, BUT I GOT UP AND IT WAS VALENTINE'S DAY.

AND I JUST THOUGHT BURNING, BURNING.

THE BEAR TOLD ME I'M OVERWHELMED.

AND I CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT MR. MAYOR AND ALDERMAN, I, I REALLY DO, UH, HAVE A FOND PLACE IN MY HEART FOR, FOR NEWBURN AND THIS AREA.

I JUST HAVE TO SAY THOUGH THAT A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I DID WERE CERTAINLY RAISING WITH SOMEBODY REAL SPECIAL HERE.

A LOT, MY WIFE LOST HER STAND UP.

SOME OF THE CHAMBER STAFF HERE AT PEOPLE, MY PARTNER.

SO SOME PEOPLE I'VE WORKED WITH IF THEY WERE STAYING, I SURE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT TOO.

THAT'S THE PEOPLE THAT REALLY AREN'T, ALSO, WON'T TELL YOU ALL THAT, UH, PROBABLY YOU'RE SOMEWHAT RELIEVED, NOT BECAUSE THIS IS PROBABLY THE FIRST TIME I'VE STOOD AT THIS PODIUM AND I ASKED YOU FOR SOME MONEY OR SOMETHING AND WE THANK YOU.

TH THIS, THIS DOES MEAN A LOT TO ME SIMPLY BECAUSE IT REALLY SHOWS THAT SOMEONE FROM A PLACE NOT HEARING, EVEN THEY COME IN AND TO BE ACCEPTED, TO BE MADE A PART OF THIS

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COMMUNITY AND THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY CAN COME TOGETHER TO ACCOMPLISH THE THINGS THAT REALLY NEEDED TO BE ACCOMPLISHED.

AND I'M JUST GLAD THAT YOU ALL ALLOWED ME TO BE A PART OF IT.

AND I APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH.

WE REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

NOW WE'LL HAVE THE, UH, CIVIL REPORT BY DAVID MEESE, DAVID AND BOARD, THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT TREATED A TOTAL OF 110 MILLION GALLONS IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY WITH AVERAGE DAILY FLOW OF 3.6 MILLION GALLONS PER DAY, THE MAXIMUM DAILY FLOW WAS 4.7 MILLION GALLONS.

APPROXIMATELY ONE INCH OF RAIN WAS RECORDED FALLING AT THE PLANT DURING THE MONTH.

THE PLANT WAS OUT OF COMPLIANCE FOR THREE PARAMETERS IN JANUARY, ONE BEING, UH, ACUTE TOXICITY, WHICH I'LL ADDRESS IN A MINUTE.

THE OTHER WAS EFFLUENT VOD, WHICH WAS ABOVE THE 30 MILLIGRAMS PER LITER AVERAGE FOR THE MONTH.

AND ALSO AS WE DID IN DECEMBER HAD PROBLEMS WITH THE TOTAL SUSPENDED SOLIDS REMOVAL WAS LESS THAN 85%.

IT WAS 82 POINT 82%.

THE LOWER EFFLUENT LIMITS IN COLD WEATHER.

TEMPERATURES HAVE CAUSED THE DECLINE IN THE IF EFFICIENCY.

UH, WE HAVE DONE SOME STUDIES AND DETERMINED THAT AMMONIA IS THE PROBLEM WITH THE ACUTE TOXICITY AND THE PLANT MANAGER, UH, DURING THE MONTH OF JANUARY HAS MADE SOME CHANGES THAT HOPEFULLY WILL HELP THE, UM, AMMONIA DISSIPATE, IF CAN AREA IT AND DISSIPATED.

IT WILL, IT WILL REDUCE THAT COMPONENT OF THE WASTE STREAM BECAUSE THAT IS, UM, COMES OUT OF SLUDGE AND ACTUALLY GOES BACK TO THE HEADWORKS OF THE PLANT AND IS PROCESSED AGAIN.

AND, UH, WE'VE ARRANGED SO THAT THIS WILL NOW GET SOME AERIATION WILL BE DISCHARGED TO THE TOP OF A, UH, SAND DRYING BED, WHICH WILL ALLOW IT TO DISSIPATE INTO THE AIR AND HOPEFULLY HAVE SOME EFFECT ON THE PLANT.

UH, THE OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, WE ARE FAILING A SUSPENDED SOLIDS AND BOD EFFICIENCY REMOVAL IS SIMPLY A MATTER OF THE TRICKLING FILTER, BEING ABLE TO DO ITS JOB.

UH, THEY HAVE DURING THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY FLOODED THE TRICKLING FILTER TO MAKE IT AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE AND DONE ALL THAT THEY POSSIBLY CAN.

UM, THE OPERATORS HAVE DONE ALL THAT THEY CAN, AND HOPEFULLY AS WEATHER WARMS IN THESE MICROORGANISMS THAT ARE IN THE TRICKLING FILTER BEGIN TO, UH, COME BACK TO LIFE FOR MEN.

NORMALLY HERE THIS WINTER, WE'LL SEE AN IMPROVEMENT IN THE EFFICIENCY AND REMOVAL OF THE PLANT.

ALSO, I WOULD LIKE TO JUST GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, PERMITTING PROCESS.

UH, WE HAVE SUBMITTED ALL THE PAPERWORK TO THE STATE.

WE ARE AWAITING, UH, ONE, UH, PERMIT FROM DAM SAFETY, WHICH THEY HAVE, PRE-APPROVED THE, UH, UH, DESIGN THAT WE'VE SUBMITTED, UH, WE'RE EXPECTING AN APPROVAL FOR THE EMERGENCY SPILLWAY SO THAT IF WE HAD TO, WE COULD DRAIN THE QUARRY, UM, IF, IF IT WERE NECESSARY.

UM, ALSO THE, UH, I'M SORRY, I GOT, I GOT THOSE TWO SWITCHED.

THAT WAS THE QUARRY I WAS TALKING ABOUT.

THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT, UH, PROJECT, UH, HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE STATE.

AND, UH, WE'RE AT THE POINT NOW THAT THE PERSON REVIEWING THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS ARE DEALING BY TELEPHONE WITH OUR CONSULTANT ENGINEERS, UH, WE EXPECT, UH, A, UH, APPROVAL, UH, ON THE PERMIT ON THE WAY THE PLAN IS CONSTRUCTED IN THE SPECIFICATIONS.

UH, WITHIN ABOUT TWO TO THREE WEEKS, THERE ARE SOME PROBLEMS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH BOTH THE CORIANN AND WITH THE WASTEWATER TREATMENT PLANT THAT, UM, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND MYSELF.

WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH STATE AGENCY, UH, AND I'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU AN UPGRADE AT NEXT MONTH'S MEETING.

UH, WE'RE PLANNING TO HAVE A MEETING BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, AND I HATE TO BE VAGUE, BUT IF I GO INTO DETAIL, IT JUST GOES ON AND ON AND ON.

AND RATHER THAN DO THAT, I WOULD JUST RATHER LET YOU KNOW WHEN WE'VE GOT THE PERMITS AND ARE READY TO CONSTRUCT.

DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS MR. MUSE UNDER THE NEW, THE RENOVATED PLANT? WHAT WILL BE THE, UH, DOD A LOT ALLOWED YOU SAY WE HAVE 30 NOW, UH, THE 30 LIMIT NOW AND THAT'S, I THINK IT'S FIVE MILLIGRAMS PER LITER.

IT DROPS VERY, VERY LOW.

UH, I WANT TO SAY IT'S FIVE MILLIGRAMS SO LATER, AND DON'T HOLD ME TO THAT, BUT I BELIEVE THAT'S CORRECT.

IT'S ACTUALLY A SUMMER AND A WINTER.

IT'S FIVE, FIVE IN SUMMER AND 10 IN WINTER.

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SO AT THE VERY WORST, WE'RE TALKING TO THIRD.

YES, SIR.

AT THE WORST, DURING THE, DURING THE WINTER MONTHS, IT WOULD BE, UH, A THIRD OF WHAT IT IS NORMALLY ALL YEAR ROUND WITH THE PLANT THAT WE HAVE NOW.

OKAY.

I KNOW THERE ARE OTHER PARAMETERS, BUT IT SEEMS BOD GETS ALL THE PLAY THAT THE TERMINOLOGY GETS THROWN UP SO OFTEN.

YEAH.

WE'RE JUST WONDERING DOD STANDS FOR BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND AND WHAT THAT IS, IS THE MICROORGANISMS THAT ARE IN THE WASTEWATER WHEN THEY'RE, WHEN THEY'RE DISCHARGED TO THE RIVER, THEY REQUIRE OXYGEN.

AND OF COURSE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THE RIVER, THIS REQUIRING OXYGEN LOWERS THE DISSOLVED OXYGEN, WHICH TAKES AWAY FROM THE FISH'S ABILITY TO BREATHE.

AND THAT'S WHY THAT IS DETRIMENTAL TO THE RIVER MAJOR CONTRIBUTING FACTOR IN CASES OF FISH KILLS SOMETIMES.

YES, SIR.

YEAH.

ALGAE BLOOMS HAVE HIGH BIOLOGICAL OXYGEN DEMAND.

THEY, THEY LITERALLY REMOVE THE OXYGEN FROM THE WATER.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

UM, NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE HAZARD MITIGATION REPORTS.

CERTAINLY GOOD TO BE BACK WITH YOU AGAIN.

I HAVE, UH, PUT A COPY OF MY REPORT, I THINK, AT EACH ONE OF YOUR PLACES.

SO I WILL RUN THROUGH THEM VERY BRIEFLY, BE GLAD TO STOP FOR ANY QUESTIONS FROM MY HEAD ON UNIT 30.

THIS WAS ONE WE HAD DISCUSSED PRETTY EXTENSIVELY.

UM, AT OTHER MEETINGS THROUGH REBIDDING REVISIONS AND NEGOTIATIONS, I HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GET THE FOUNDATION AND ELEVATION PRICE OF THIS HOUSE WITHIN WHAT THE H M G P P GRANT PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS US TO SPEND.

UM, THEREFORE I THINK THAT PROBABLY THE BEST SOLUTION IS TO TAKE THE H M G P P PROGRAM OUT OF THIS HOUSE, SINCE IT TECHNICALLY WOULD BE INELIGIBLE FOR HMGP AND TRY TO USE SOME OF THE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS.

WE HAVE SUCH AS THE DRI PROGRAM OR THE SOFT PROGRAM TO TRY TO FIX THIS HOUSE AND TAKE HMGP OUT OF IT ALTOGETHER.

UM, WE WILL BE ABLE TO FIX THE HOUSE.

WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO WHAT WE HAD WANTED TO DO.

WE WILL JUST USE A DIFFERENT POT OF MONEY ON THIS HOUSE.

COULD YOU EXPLAIN WHAT DRI AND S A R F DRI IS DISASTER RELIEF, DISASTER RELIEF, DISASTER RECOVERY, DISASTER RECOVERY INITIATIVE, AND THE SAREF IS A STATE ACQUISITION RELOCATION FUND.

BOTH OF WHICH FUNDING SOURCES WE HAVE IN THE PROGRAM UNIT NUMBER 80, UH, THE HOUSE HAS BEEN, UM, COMPLETED AND IT'S, REOCCUPIED, UH, WE HAVE A FEW MINOR TOUCH UP THINGS TO DO THERE INSIDE THE HOUSE, UH, WHICH WE'LL BE DOING IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UH, HOUSE 92, WHICH IS THE YOU'VE WE'VE PASSED AND COMMENTED ON, UM, I DON'T OAKS ROAD.

UH, IT NOW HAS A FOUNDATION UNDERNEATH IT, UM, ABOUT HALF OF THE STAIRS AND STEPS ARE INSTALLED.

AND I'M SURE THAT THERE'LL BE THROUGH WITH THAT THIS WEEK.

UH, WE ARE GOING TO HAVE SOME MINOR HOUSING REPAIRS INSIDE THAT ONE TO TAKE CARE OF UNIT FORTIES PRIORITY 35.

AND WE CURRENTLY HAVE THAT ON HOLD AS A RENTAL UNIT, 74, UM, ACQUISITION NEGOTIATIONS ARE COMPLETE WITH THIS UNIT.

UM, THE PURCHASE IS JUST PENDING PUTTING TOGETHER THE CLOSING STATEMENT AND GETTING THAT CLOSED UNIT 17.

THE APPRAISAL IS IN PROCESS.

UH, THE OWNER WANTS A FIRM AMOUNT TO CONSIDER ACQUISITION UNIT 75.

THE APPRAISAL HAS BEEN COMPLETED AND THE OWNER IS NOW TRYING TO MAKE UP HIS MIND WHETHER HE WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IN ELEVATION OR HAVE HIS HOUSE ACQUIRED AND CLEARED A UNIT 78 WE'VE DISCUSSED BEFORE ARE THE COST REASONABLENESS OF THIS, BE IT AT 93, 9, $4,000 UNIT 70 TWOS OR RENTAL, WHICH IS ON HOLD UNIT.

93 IS A RENTAL, WHICH IS TEMPORARILY ON HOLD.

AND WHEN I SAY ON HOLD, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IS TO ADDRESS A SUBSTANTIAL NUMBER OF THE OWNER OCCUPIED UNITS FIRST, UM, WE HAVE POISED THESE OTHER UNITS THAT ARE IN THE UPPER 30 PRIORITIES, UM, SO THAT AS WE GET TO WHERE WE'VE SUBSTANTIALLY ADDRESSED THE OWNER-OCCUPIED UNITS, WE CAN MOVE RIGHT INTO THE UNIT, THE RENTAL UNITS, UNIT 36, THIS ELEVATION RETROFIT IS COMPLETE AND HAS BEEN REOCCUPIED.

THERE ARE SOME MAJOR, I MEAN, SOME MINOR PUNCH LIST ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED ON THAT HOUSE.

A UNIT 44, THE ELEVATION RETROFIT IS COMPLETE.

IT HAS BEEN REOCCUPIED AGAIN, THERE ARE JUST SOME MINOR ITEMS WE NEED TO TAKE CARE OF ON THERE, LIKE CRACK WALLS AND SOME THINGS LIKE THAT.

UNIT 28, ALL THE PAPERWORK HAS BEEN SIGNED.

THE OWNER HAS A QUESTION, REQUESTED SOME ADDITIONAL WORK, UH, MOVING THE HOUSE BACK, MAKING IT A LITTLE BIT TALLER.

UH, WE HAVE GOT EXTRA PRICES FOR HIM, SENT THOSE TO HIM.

AS OF TODAY, I WOULD EXPECT IF EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY FOR CONSTRUCTION TO START ON THAT UNIT ON THE 19TH OF MARCH UNIT 29

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IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION.

UM, LAST WEEK WE HAD SOME SITUATIONS WITH A FLOOR SYSTEM REPAIRS THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE TO BRING THE UNDERCARRIAGE OF THAT HOUSE UP TO CODE.

AND WE WERE ABLE TO ADDRESS THOSE IN FOUR OR FIVE DAYS AND GET THOSE PRICED OUT AND APPROVED THROUGH THE BUILDING INSPECTION DEPARTMENT IN THERE.

NOW BACK OUT, THEY'RE WORKING ON THAT UNIT 70, UH, PAPERWORK IS SIGNED, EXPECT CONSTRUCTION TO START.

IT HAS THREE ONE, BUT AS OF A PHONE CALL ON MY WAY DOWN HERE, THAT WILL BE THREE, FIVE.

THAT WILL BE MONDAY UNIT 84.

IT IS A PRIORITY, UH, 36 AND IS NOW ON HOLD UNIT FOUR, THE OWNER HAS CONSIDERED ACQUISITION.

WE'VE APPRAISED THE HOUSE, SEND IT TO THE OWNER.

THE OWNER HAS DECIDED INSTEAD TO PARTICIPATE IN THE ELEVATION PROGRAM, THE CONTRACTOR FOR THAT ELEVATION PROGRAM IS MR. HENRY EVERETT, THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.

HE HAS THREE HOUSES, ONE UNDER CONSTRUCTION AND TWO OTHERS IN FRONT OF IT.

SO I WOULD THINK IT WOULD BE AN APRIL WAS.

SO WHEN WE GOT TO THAT HOUSE, A UNIT FIVE, UH, AS AN ELDERLY COUPLE, THEY WANT TO INVESTIGATE ACQUISITION.

WE'VE HAD AN APPRAISAL TO THEM.

WE'VE MET WITH THEM ON FEBRUARY 22ND, AND THEY'RE STILL SOMEWHAT UNDECIDED ON THE BEST THING FOR THEM TO DO.

WE'VE TALKED WITH THEM AND TALKED WITH SOME PEOPLE WHO WORK WITH THEM.

AND, UM, WE EXPECT MAY OR JUNE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO MAKE SOME SORT OF A DECISION UNIT 18.

UH, THE OWNER WANTS TO INVESTIGATE ACQUISITION AND WE HAVE REQUESTED AN APPRAISAL TO DO THAT UNIT 19.

UH, THIS IS A UNIT, UM, WHEN WE HAD OUR AREA PUBLIC MEETING AND I THANK THE MAYOR FOR ATTENDING AND HELPING US WITH THAT.

UM, THERE WAS, UH, AN ERROR IN THE ELEVATION.

WE WENT BACK AND DID ANOTHER ELEVATION ON HIS HOUSE, UH, WHICH MADE IT A PRIORITY 14 INSTEAD OF A MUCH HIGHER PRIORITY.

UH, THE CONTRACTOR ON THIS HOUSE IS, UH, MR. EVERETT.

UH, THIS WOULD BE THE FIFTH ONE THAT HE HAD.

UM, WE PLAN ON MEETING WITH THIS OWNER IN MARCH TO GET HER PAPERWORK AND EXPLAIN THE PROGRAM TO HER.

IF EVERYTHING GOES SMOOTHLY, WE'D HAVE THIS ON THE CONSTRUCTION.

PROBABLY APRIL 1ST PART OF MAY, UNIT SIX IS IN YOUR PACKAGE FOR AWARD AT THIS, AT THIS MEETING NEEDS A PRIORITY 37.

IT WAS GOING TO BE TEMPORARILY ON HOLD UNIT 23 WILL BE AWARDED IN YOUR PACKAGE TONIGHT.

THAT IS A PRIORITY 19.

AND AS IT'S AWARDED, WE WILL PROCEED TO MEET WITH THAT GENTLEMAN AND WORK THROUGH THAT UNIT 27 IS A PRIORITY 20, UM, AGAIN, TO BE AWARDED TONIGHT.

AND WE WILL PROCEED WITH THAT ONE AS THIS AWARDED UNIT 45, UH, THIS BID EXCEEDS THE HMGP ALLOWABLE FUNDS BY ABOUT $9,000.

UH, IT IS, UH, PRIOR TO NINE.

SO IT IS A HIGH PRIORITY FOR US TO WORK ON.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO REDUCE THAT BID AS MUCH AS WE CAN OR EITHER FIND OTHER FUNDS TO DO IT WITH 46 FOR AWARD TONIGHT, PRIORITY 24.

WE'LL PROCEED WITH THAT.

1 65 FOR AWARD TONIGHT IS A PRIORITY 38 TEMPORARILY ON HOLD.

UH, UNIT 66 IS A PRIORITY 41.

IT WOULD BE ON HOLD A UNIT 77.

THIS IS JUST LIKE THE ONE I MENTIONED.

NUMBER 45 WOULD BE AN EXCEEDS BY AGAIN ABOUT $9,000, THE FUNDS ALLOWABLE, UH, WE'LL TRY TO REDUCE IT OR TO FIND ALL THE FUNDS TO DO USE ON THIS HOUSE.

NUMBER 79 IS A PRIORITY 50 SEVENS ARE GOING TO UNIT ON HOLD NUMBER 86 IS FOR A TONIGHT.

AND IT IS A RENTAL UNIT IN THE 34 PRIORITIES TEMPORARILY ON WHOLE PACKAGE FIVE.

WE RECEIVED THESE BIDS ON FEBRUARY 16TH AND, UM, UNIT NUMBER SEVEN, UH, RIGHT NOW IS IN A BIT OF $83,000, WHICH IS ABOUT DOUBLE THE ESTIMATED WORTH OF THE PROPERTY.

UH, WE NEED TO EXAMINE THE COST REASONABLENESS OF THAT BID.

HALF OF THAT BID WAS A $12,000 ELEVATION COSTS AND THE NEXT LOW BIDDER WAS 24 TO 25.

AND WHEN THE CONTRACTOR SAW THE DIFFERENCE, HE IMMEDIATELY, THE BW WANTED TO WITHDRAW HIS BID, WHICH WOULD PUT THIS UP ANOTHER 12,000 OR SO.

UM, NUMBER NINE IS A RENTAL UNIT PRIORITY 44 ON HOME UNIT 20, THIS BE IT AGAIN, EXCEEDS HMGP ALLOWABLE.

UH, AGAIN, THIS IS ABOUT AGAIN, ABOUT $9,000 OVER.

IT'S A PRIORITY 25, WHICH THIS WAS A ANOTHER ONE THAT HAD AN ERROR IN THE ELEVATION THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CORRECT AND MOVE IT UP ON THE PRIORITY LIST.

UNIT 25 AS A PRIORITY 28, WE WILL BE PROCEEDING WITH THAT WHEN AFTER YOUR AWARD TONIGHT, A UNIT 39 PRIORITY

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17 PROCEED AFTER AWARD TONIGHT, UNIT 43 IS A PRIORITY 45 TEMPORARILY ON HOLD UNIT 47 PRIORITY 40 TEMPORARILY ON HOLD 54, BE AWARDED TONIGHT'S A PRIORITY 27.

AGAIN, ANOTHER ONE WITH WHICH WE CAN PROCEED.

NUMBER 58 PRIORITY 41 IS TEMPORARILY ON HOLD.

AND NUMBER 69, THE BID EXCEEDS THE H AND G P ALLOWABLE BY ABOUT $1,500.

UM, I FEEL VERY COMFORTABLE.

WE CAN GET THAT NEGOTIATED DOWN AND GET THAT ONE, UM, MOVING ON.

AND THEN YOU HAVE LISTED THERE FOR PACKAGE SIX.

UH, THE UNITS THAT ARE ANTICIPATED TO BE IN THE NEXT BID PACKAGE WILL BE RECEIVING BIDS IN MARCH.

UM, I WILL HAVE, I WENT THROUGH THEM RATHER QUICKLY.

IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU HAD HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THEM.

UM, AND YOU MAY NOTICE IF YOU LOOK REAL CLOSELY THAT PROBABLY SOME OF THOSE PRIORITIES ARE REPEATED.

UM, AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, UH, WE FIND OUT DIFFERENT THINGS JUST LIKE LAST NIGHT AT NINE 30, I FOUND OUT WHAT ONE MAN HAD REPORTED IS KNOWN.

HER OCCUPIED HOUSE WAS IN FACT, A RENTAL HOUSE, WHICH CHANGED THAT PRIORITY AND CHANGED THE PRIORITY OF EVERYBODY ABOVE IT.

UM, AND, UH, I'VE HAD TWO OF THOSE SINCE, UH, PROBABLY SINCE I DID THIS COLUMN YESTERDAY.

SO IF YOU NOTICE THAT LITTLE, THEY MAY BE ONE OR TWO OFF AND, AND WE CORRECT THOSE AS WE GO THROUGH.

IF YOU DO NOTICE THAT THAT WILL LOVE TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS, UH, HAVE A COMMENT.

WE, WE HAVE BEEN, WE HAVE STARTED TO SCHEDULE, UM, REGULAR MONTHLY MEETINGS WITH THE, UM, CITIZENS IN THE AREA.

UH, THE NEXT MEETING HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR MARCH THE EIGHTH, AND WE WILL BE SENDING NOTIFICATION TO EACH PERSON IN THE PROJECT AREA, UH, BY MAIL, UM, OF THE MEETINGS, TIME AND LOCATION, ET CETERA.

AND WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO HAVE A MEETING EVERY MONTH TO ADDRESS CONCERNS OR ANSWER QUESTIONS, ET CETERA, FROM THE CITIZENS IN THAT ARE ACTUALLY IN THE PROJECT.

UH, MICAH HAS ITS OWN UNIT SEVEN.

IT WAS A $3,000 FOOT PUSH UP COST.

THAT PARTICULAR HOUSE HAS I THINK, THREE DIFFERENT KINDS OF FLOOR SYSTEMS THAT HAS ONE PART FIRST PART OF THE HOUSE THAT'S ACTUALLY BUILT ON CONCRETE SLAB ON GRADE.

THEN IT'S GOT A NEXT SECTION THAT WAS BUILT PROBABLY AT ANOTHER TIME.

THAT IS VERY, VERY LOW, ALMOST ON THE GROUND.

AND THEN ANOTHER BACK SECTION IS PRETTY MUCH HIGHER AND THAT TYPE OF THINGS BEING PUT TOGETHER AND THAT TALK VERY CONSTRUCTION.

UM, SO YOU PROBABLY ENDED UP ALL THREE STATES IN THE HOUSE AT DIFFERENT TIMES.

WELL, YOU, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO IT, YOU'D HAVE TO LIFT THEM ALL AT THE SAME TIME.

THEY DON'T HAVE ANY SNAPS ON, WE CAN'T GET THEM BACK, BUT I GUESS WE COULD GET THEM BACK AGAIN.

IS THAT THE ONE NEXT TO THE BREAD? YES, SIR.

UM, THE MOMENT HIS SON, YOU KNOW, REQUESTED THAT, UH, UH, HE BE PRESENT WHEN HE TALKED WITH HIS MOTHER.

UH, I TALKED WITH HIM BEFORE I CAME UP HERE TONIGHT AND HE HASN'T BEEN CONTACTED.

MIKE KNOWS ABOUT THAT.

THE HOUSE WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WITH A SON WAS SUPPOSED TO BE CONSULTANT.

WHEN WE GOT WITH HIS MOTHER DISCUSSED THE ACQUISITION TO REPAIR THE HOUSE HASN'T BEEN CONTACTED YET, BUT WE NEGOTIATE LAST.

SO I'D APPRECIATE IT.

IF YOU COULD INCLUDE HIM IN ORLANDO AS PER HER REQUEST AND HIS TWO IT'S FINE.

IT'S QUITE A BIT JUST THE ELEVATOR.

IT WAS 1999.

WELL, I DON'T THINK YOU'VE EVEN GOT A FLOOR THAT SHE COULD RAISE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE HER FLORIDA.

IT'S JUST A, IT'S JUST A DIFFICULT HOUSE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS PROGRAM, BUT THE PROGRAM DOESN'T OFFER THEM SOME OTHER ALTERNATIVES AT THE HOUSE, A PRAISE.

NO, SIR.

YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS THAT COMES UP AND THIS BOARD HAS TO FACE DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF ALL LAST.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO HANDLE IS WHEN PEOPLE COME UP AND TRY TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

AND, UH, MIKE IS LOOKING FOR SOME PROPERTY, YOU KNOW, PROUD TO PUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND ALL THAT.

BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS A CLASSIC EXAMPLE.

IT'S ONE THING, IF YOU SAID YOU HOUSE, YOU KNOW, GIVE IT UP OR WHATEVER, BUT YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GO.

YES, SIR.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S ALWAYS A PHRASE IS WORN OUT, BUT IT'S A TWO EDGE SWORD, YOU KNOW, AND EVEN WE HAVE TO HAVE PLACES TO MAKE IT, TO HAVE THE OPTION TO SAY HOUSE AND GO SOMEWHERE.

OBVIOUSLY YOU GOT TO HAVE SOMEWHERE TO GET IT.

YES, SIR.

SO, UH, YOU KNOW, PROBLEM JUST REALLY DOESN'T

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GO AWAY.

WE HAVE TO ADDRESS ALL THIS LOOSE APPLE ABOUT ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR, OKAY.

MIKE, DO YOU HAVE ANY, I GUESS THAT'S THAT YOU MUST BE DOING ALL RIGHT.

IT'S NOT EASY THAT'S FOR SURE.

OKAY.

THE NEXT THING WE HAVE THEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE CDBG APPLICATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2001, 2002.

I THINK IT'S THE SAME CREW INVOLVED HERE.

GOOD EVENING, THE ADVERTISEMENT FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING THIS EVENING, UH, DEALT WITH COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION AND A BROADER CONTEXT SO THAT IT COULD COVER TWO POTENTIAL GRANTS THAT WE ARE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW.

ONE IS FOR CONCENTRATED NEEDS AND THE OTHER FOR REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES, TWO SEPARATE GRANT PROGRAMS. THE CONCENTRATED NEEDS PROGRAM IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE ACCUSTOMED TO THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN DOING SINCE THE MID EIGHTIES IN DUFFY FIELD, IN PABEY TOWN, IN THE AVENUES AREA.

AND NOW IN RALEIGH IN GARDEN STREETS, IT'S A SMALL CONCENTRATED AREA IN WHICH WE DO HOUSING REHAB.

WE DO SOME ACQUISITION AND CLEARANCE AND RELOCATION.

WE DO SOME WATER AND SEWER AND STREET AND DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS IN, UH, A SMALL CONCENTRATED AREA.

SO THAT'S ONE GRANT THAT WE'RE ELIGIBLE TO APPLY FOR IT THIS TIME.

THE SECOND ONE, THE REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES IS A BRAND NEW GRANT PROGRAM, UH, UNDER COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION.

AND THIS IS A MORE COMPREHENSIVE GRANT PROGRAM THAT INCLUDES MORE THAN THE SORT OF BRICKS AND MORTAR STUFF THAT WE DO IN CONCENTRATED NEEDS.

IT INCLUDES HOUSING, BUT IT ALSO INCLUDES THE POSSIBILITY FOR PUBLIC SERVICE PROGRAMS, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC FACILITIES, TO SERVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND INFRASTRUCTURE.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT BROADER, UH, IN, IN WHAT IT ENCOMPASSES.

WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO THIS EVENING IS TO HAVE MIKE SPEAK FIRST ON CONCENTRATED NEED, OR HE HAS CONSIDERABLE KNOWLEDGE, UH, AND TELL YOU ABOUT THAT GRANT.

AND THEN I'LL COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES, AND THEN WE CAN POSSIBLY HAVE THE PUBLIC COME FORTH AND GIVE THEIR COMMENTS AND SUGGESTIONS.

LIKE MIKE SAID, THE PURPOSE OF THIS PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH IS THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS IS TO RECEIVE PUBLIC COMMENT AND WHAT THE PUBLIC WOULD LIKE TO SEE BE INVOLVED IN COMMUNITY, THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FUNDING CYCLE, UM, DURING THIS YEAR, UM, THE FIRST TYPE OF APPLICATION THAT EXISTS.

AND THIS IS A CHANGE FROM PAST YEARS IS A SCATTER SITE APPLICATION USED TO BE, EVERYBODY COULD BE INVOLVED IN SCATTERED SITE.

NOW SCATTERED SITE HAS GONE TO A DIRECT DISTRIBUTION DIRECTLY TO COUNTIES, CITY OF NEWBORNS, NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR SCATTER SITE, UNLESS IT COMES THROUGH THE COUNTY.

AND THAT'S A FOURTH, A THIRD OF THE COUNTIES GET $400,000 EVERY THREE YEARS.

THE, UM, CONCENTRATED NEEDS PROGRAM, LIKE MIKE SAID, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IN THE PAST TO TAKE A, A CONCENTRATED AREA, A SMALL NEIGHBORHOOD AREA, UH, TRY TO ADDRESS, UH, THE HOUSING, THE PUBLIC FACILITY, UM, THE BRICKS AND MORTAR NEEDS OF THAT AREA.

UM, AND, AND OFTENTIMES WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO TAKE 15% OF THAT PROGRAM AND ADDRESS SOME OTHER NEEDS THAT MIGHT BE IN THE GENERAL AREA, BUT NOT SPECIFICALLY IN THAT AREA.

UM, THIS PROGRAM DOES REQUIRE A LOCAL COMMITMENT ON THE TOWN'S PART.

HOPEFULLY WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CITY'S NEEDS, EXCUSE ME ABOUT THE TOWN AND SOME OF THE CITY'S NEEDS, UM, WITH THE LOCAL OPTION THINGS, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE TO DO ANYWAY TO HELP OFFSET SOME OF YOUR, UH, LOCAL COMMITMENT NEEDS IN THE PROGRAM.

THERE IS, THERE IS ONE OTHER ONE, MIKE, IF YOU COULD GIVE ME JUST A LITTLE BIT OF LIBERTY I FOUND OUT ABOUT, UM, THIS WEEK, UM, THE, THE, THE GUIDELINES ARE IN DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NOW, UH, PROBABLY BE ANNOUNCED IN THE NEXT 30 DAYS OR SO.

AND THAT IS A, JUST A $75,000 GRANT TO ATTACH LOW MODERATE INCOME HOMEOWNERS TO EXISTING, UM, SEWERS OR WATER FACILITIES.

AND I KNOW THERE ARE, THERE ARE PLACES WE ESPECIALLY FOUND OUT IN WOODROW, WHICH JUST

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MADE ME THINK ABOUT IT.

UM, THERE ARE PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE I THINK WE COULD APPLY FOR THAT MONEY AND YOU BASICALLY APPLY FOR IT ON A GENERIC BASIS.

WE'LL APPLY FOR THE 75 AND THEN GO BACK AND IDENTIFY THE LOW INCOME PEOPLE ON SOME PRIORITY WE WOULD HAVE.

UM, BUT THAT'S A PROGRAM I'D LIKE TO GET INTO THIS PROGRAM IS PUBLIC HEARING.

SO WE WON'T HAVE TO DOUBLE UP LATER ON.

WHAT, WHAT DOES IT DO TO ME TO HEAR FROM THE YOU GUYS TO THIS PROGRAM THAT YOU'RE MAKING REFERENCE TO? WHAT IS IT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HEAR THAT THE COOK, WHAT COMMUNITIES WOULD BE INTERESTED IN OR HAVING THAT KIND OF NEED, LIKE YOU MENTIONED, WOODROW.

WELL, I, FOR THAT PROGRAM, THERE ARE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS REQUIRE, AND I WANTED TO MENTION IT TONIGHT.

SO THIS COULD SERVE AS THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING, UM, WITH ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WILL COME OBVIOUSLY FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT NEEDS.

SO DIDN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

NO, WELL THAT'S OKAY.

I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS COVERED SO THAT IT WOULDN'T, AND I'D LIKE TO SEE YOU, UM, APPLY FOR THIS MONEY OR TELL US HOW TO GO ABOUT APPLYING FOR IT.

AND I WOULDN'T WANT US NOT TO SAY SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WE NEED TO SAY IN ORDER TO QUALIFY FOR THIS MONEY.

YEAH, WE WILL.

WE WILL BE, WE WILL BE BACK AT A SECOND PUBLIC HEARING TO DISCUSS THE NUTS AND BOLTS OF IT, OF THE GRANT PROGRAMS ACTIVITIES IN, IN ALL OF THESE PROGRAMS. IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT MICHAEL DESCRIBED OR HOUSING, WATER, SEWER STREETS DRAINAGE, UH, THERE'S SOME, UM, LIMITED FORMS OF RECREATION THAT CAN BE INVOLVED AS LONG AS THEY BENEFIT 51% LOW MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE.

AND UNDER WHAT I WOULD CALL MISCELLANEOUS ACTIVITIES, OR A LOT OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT MIKE WILL ADDRESS WHAT I WOULD REFER TO AS SOFT TYPE ACTIVITIES, WHETHER THEY BE COMMUNITY POLICING OR JUST A NUMBER OF THINGS.

SO, AND THAT LEADS ME INTO REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES, CATEGORY THAT MICHAELS THE, UH, SECOND POSSIBLE GRANT CATEGORY IS REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES.

I THINK IT DOES HAVE THE BRICKS AND MORTAR COMPONENT, UH, HOUSES, INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, PUBLIC FACILITIES, BUT IT INCLUDES SOME AREAS THAT WE TYPICALLY DON'T THINK OF WHEN WE THINK OF, UH, CONCENTRATED NEEDS.

UH, THOSE INCLUDE, UH, THINGS SUCH AS REMOVAL OF HAZARDOUS MATERIALS.

THAT COULD BE A PROBLEM IN THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE COULD DO THINGS LIKE, UH, DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE FOR FIRST-TIME HOME BUYERS, A SECOND MORTGAGE ASSISTANCE FOR HOMEOWNERS.

WE COULD DO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, SUCH AS MICRO ENTERPRISE GRANTS TO, UH, LOCAL ENTREPRENEURS OR BUSINESS PEOPLE WISHING TO LOCATE OR EXPAND IN THE AREA.

UH, THINGS SUCH AS NEIGHBORHOOD PARKS AND GREENWAYS, RECREATIONAL FACILITIES, TYPICALLY DON'T RATE VERY HIGH AND ARE USUALLY KEPT AS LOCAL OPTION UNDER A CONCENTRATED NEED BECAUSE YOU DON'T GET A LOT OF GOOD NEEDS POINTS THERE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S A PART OF AN OVERALL STRATEGY THAT YOU COULD DO UNDER, UH, THE REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES CATEGORY.

YOU COULD DO THINGS LIKE YOUTH CENTERS, UH, SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DO WITH WEED AND SEED OR SOMETHING SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, A PARK PARKS AND RECREATION IS DOING WITH THE BEAR AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM FOR KIDS AND OTHER TYPE PUBLIC.

THE SOCIAL QUESTION THERE, WOULD YOU SAY YOU COULD DO ALL THESE THINGS, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO DESCRIBE THESE PRODUCTS AND THEN APPLY FOR THE GRANT? AND IF THEY LIKED THE GRUB, THE PROJECT, THEN WE MIGHT GET THE MONEY, RIGHT? IT'S NOT THAT THEY WOULD GIVE US X AMOUNT OF MONEY.

AND THEN WE JUST SAY, WELL, WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH BUILD A CAR AND WE'LL DO THIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO HAVE A GOOD ARGUMENT TO GET THE MONEY.

AND THEREFORE, IF YOU TRY TO JUST DO A LITTLE GREEN CAR, YOU PROBABLY LESS LIKELY TO GET THE MONEY.

AND IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO SOME BRICKS AND MORTARS, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, FIX UP SOMEBODY.

RIGHT? EXACTLY.

AND THEY CAN DO OTHER THINGS LIKE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, DAYCARE FOR WORKING MOTHERS AND PARENTS.

UM, THIS TYPE OF PROGRAM, UH, COULD DOVETAIL NICELY WITH OUR GREATER DUFFY FIELD STRATEGIC PLAN, BECAUSE IT, IT DOES, UH, HAVE A BROADER CONSTRUCT TO IT.

QUESTION IS HOW DO WE HAVE THE MOST IMPACT ON THE GREATER DUFFIELD AREA THROUGH CONCENTRATED NEEDS OR THROUGH THE REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES? IT'S BASICALLY THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU CAN GET THE CONCENTRATED NEEDS EVERY OTHER YEAR,

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700,000, OR YOU CAN GET THE REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES EVERY YEAR, 350,000.

SO IT ALL COMES OUT TO ABOUT THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY, UM, IF, UH, IS FOR THREE TO FIVE YEAR PERIOD.

UH, AND ONCE AGAIN, IT IS MORE FLEXIBLE, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO DO.

UH, WE'RE WORKING WITH MIKE, I'M WORKING WITH BERNARD AND THE DCA STAFF ON IT TO TRY TO SIZE IT UP AND SEE WHICH YOU CAN'T RECEIVE BOTH IN A GIVEN YEAR, UH, TO SEE WHICH ONE APPEARS TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY THE BEST, UH, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE BOARD, UH, WITH THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE REASONS FOR THEM, UH, FOR, YOU KNOW, WHICH ONE WE WOULD RECOMMEND BECAUSE COULD UNDER THIS, GREG, UH, COULD YOU HAVE LIKE THE CLEANING OF DITCHES, YOU KNOW, LIKE WE IN DUFFY FIELD IN PARTICULAR, UM, AND SOME IN PLEASANT HILL, WE HAVE PROBLEMS WITH, UH, SOME DITCHES THAT HAVE PLAGUED THE NEIGHBORHOODS, YOU KNOW, DRAIN WEIGHT, CLEANING THEM OUT AND PUTTING YOUR ABILITY IN THEM.

YOU COULD DO THAT UNDER EITHER PROGRAM, EITHER PROGRAM, YES, UNDER CONCENTRATED NEEDS.

YOU'D PROBABLY WANT TO DO THAT UNDER LOCAL OPTION, WHICH CURRENTLY WE'RE DOING A GOOD BIT OF A WATER AND SEWER WORK UNDER LOCAL OPTION AND THE RALEIGH AND GARDEN STREET AREAS.

IF YOU, IF YOU WERE GOING TO DO IT UNDER THE REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES, YOU CAN DO IT WITHIN YOUR DEFINED, THE AREA.

AND YOU, YOU JUST MADE COMMENT OF TWO AREAS.

I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO PICK ONE OR THE OTHER, RIGHT.

AND, UH, THE AREA THAT YOU CHOOSE FOR, UM, I DON'T MAKE IT TOO COMPLICATED FOR REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES.

YOU CAN'T GO IN WHILE YOU'RE DOING REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES WITH CONCENTRATED NEEDS OR SOME OTHER CDBG PROGRAM.

THAT'S, THAT'S THE BALL GAME FOR THAT AREA YOU DESIGNATE DURING THAT, COULD YOU DO IT THEN WITH A $75,000? OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND THAT WE PROBABLY REALLY COULD NOT APPLY FOR BOTH OF THE CONCENTRATED NEEDS AND THE REVITALIZATION, BUT CAN YOU APPLY THE 75,000 THAT HE MAY MENTION THAT? YEAH, BECAUSE THE, THE 75,000 IS A SEPARATE GRANT THAT WOULD NOT IMPACT THESE TWO.

AND WHAT WE CAN DO, ACTUALLY, THE REVITALIZATION STRATEGIES REQUIRES A PRE-APPLICATION TO BE SUBMITTED, UH, MARCH 30TH.

WE CAN GO TO PRE-APPLICATION WITH BOTH OF THEM AND THEY WILL MAKE A CUT IN MID APRIL.

AND WE WILL KNOW WHETHER WE'RE IN THE GROUP OF 25 AND THEN FROM THE 25 THEY'LL FUND 10, BUT WE'LL KNOW HOW STRONG OUR APPLICATION IS THAT THAT THAT'LL GIVE US A GOOD SIGNAL AT THAT POINT, WHICH IS BEFORE, OR, UH, CONCENTRATED NEED.

IT HAS TO GO IN RIGHT, THE CONCENTRATED AGE YOU DO MAKE FOR WHAT MIKE AND I, ON TOP OF THAT, I REALLY HAVEN'T DECIDED THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.

WE WOULD PROBABLY PUT OURSELVES IN THE BEST POSITION TO HAVE A CHOICE IT'S DEVELOP BOTH APPLICATIONS AND FIND OUT IN APRIL, PUTS AWAY EXACTLY THE CITY.

GOT IT.

YES, SIR.

AND YOUR OVERVIEW OF THE CITY'S NEEDS, DO YOU HAVE A PRIORITY LIST OR IS THERE SOMETHING THAT YOU COULD DEVELOP BETWEEN NOW AND MAYBE AN EXTRA MEETING TO DETERMINE WHAT ARE OUR MOST SIGNIFICANT NEEDS? LIKE THE SEWERS THAT WE DON'T HAVE CONNECTIVITY CAN COME BACK TO THE GROUP OF 10, PRIORITIZE THEM, AND THEN WE CAN KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY WE NEED TO ASK FOR AND WHAT PLAN WOULD BE MOST APPROPRIATELY.

WE WILL BE DOING AN ANALYSIS OF HOUSING AND PUBLIC FACILITY NEEDS, UH, PRIMARILY FOCUSED ON THE GREATER DUFFY FIELD AREA.

UH, AND WE'LL BE GIVING YOU THAT INFORMATION ON THE ONES THAT APPEAR TO HAVE THE HIGHEST NEEDS AND WHAT THOSE NEEDS ARE.

AND BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S A BIT OF A GAME, YOU KNOW, WAY IN THAT YOU HAVE TO DESIGN YOUR PROGRAM IN A WAY THAT WILL OBTAIN THE MOST POINTS.

OKAY.

AND, AND SO THAT'S YEAH.

AND, AND, AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WORK FOR, UH, IN DOING THAT.

AND THAT'S THE ONE THING THAT MIKE IS A PARTICULARLY GOOD AT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

CAN WE TASK YOU TO DO THAT THE TOP 10 AND COME BACK TO US WITH HOW YOU PERCEIVE THOSE TO BE THE MOST IMPORTANT OR THE HIGHEST PRIORITY IN THE CITY, AND THEN WE CAN PUT THEM IN THE RIGHT PROGRAM AND THEN GO FOR BOTH THE MAXIMUM OF BOTH FUNDS.

WE COULD DO THAT TO THE EXTENT INPUT.

YEAH.

THAT'S A, THAT'S A PRETTY TALL ORDER.

AND IN A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME, UH,

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WELL, WE WILL DO THE BEST WE CAN TO PRIORITIZE THEM.

YES.

AND D THEY MIGHT NOT BE THE TOP 10.

IT MIGHT BE THE TOP FIVE OR SIX.

WELL, LET'S GET AT LEAST AT FIRST, THE FIRST SPOT.

AND, UH, I THINK THAT IS OUR PRESENTATION ON THE PROGRAMS. AND WE'LL STEP ASIDE AND SEE WHAT COMMENTS THE PUBLIC MIGHT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PUBLIC TO COME FORTH AND MAKE THEIR COMMENTS ABOUT THE CDBG APPLICATIONS.

AND WHAT WE'LL TRY TO DO IS GO BY THE ROSE.

IS THERE ANYBODY ON THE FIRST ROAD AND THESE TO COMMENT ON THAT? YEAH.

HI MAYOR.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THIS MONEY IS FAR, UH, THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP, NOT RENTAL INCOME PROPERTY.

IS THAT WHAT THIS MIGHT IS GOING TO BE HERE? I DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER THAT.

MIKE'S ONE SAYING HE ASKED ALVIN SAYING NO, SO YOU TAKE YOUR PICK.

THAT IS THE MONEY, PRIVATE PROPERTY INDIVIDUAL INVESTMENT QUESTION WAS ANSWERED.

THANK YOU.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE FRONT ROAD, KIND OF SOUTH AND 10 36 DONALD STREET, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE PROGRAM THAT WE HAVE GOING ON IN DEPTH OF FIELD GOALS, REALLY ENTHUSED THAT THE CENTER IN ME PAST THAT JUST TO STATE, TO STATE IT, HOW IMMIGRATION STEPHEN'S PLAN AND THE DEPTH OF FIELD AREA AND THINGS THAT BEGAN TO MOVE.

I NEVER BEEN SO PROUD OF THE CITY AND ALL MY LIFE, HOW THEY ARE WORKING TOGETHER.

I DON'T OWN THE CITY, BUT THE COUNTY ALSO IS WORKING ALONG WITH THE CITY HABITAT, WORKING ALONG WITH THE CITY NEWSREEL CAMILLE'S DEVELOP CORPORATION, I THINK, AND MIKE, MIKE, AND BURNOUT DOING A MAGNIFICENT JOB, WHAT ALL THE ORGANIZATION TO PULL THESE PROGRAMS TOGETHER TO HELP THE PEOPLES THAT ARE CITIZENS IN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.

AND THIS IS THOSE WAY.

I CAN SEE THAT WE CAN DO THIS AND CONTINUE WORKING ALONE IN THIS AREA THAT WE CAN HELP ALL THE PEOPLE, ALL THE PEOPLE THAT SEND ME, I'D RATHER SEE SOMEONE GET HELP THE NEED, HELP THEM THEN TO WAIT.

THEN SEE SOMEONE COME BACK AND HELP ME.

AND I DON'T NEED THEM.

AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE ARE VERY ENTHUSED AND HABITAT DOING A MAGNIFICENT JOB.

I'M REAL PROUD OF THE WATERFRONT AREA DOWN THE STAND OR A WALK, BELLA MAN DRIVE BOULEVARD DOWN THERE.

IT'S BEAUTIFUL DOWN THAT AREA.

AND IT COULD NOT HAVE BEEN DONE.

IF THE GROUPS HAD NOT BEEN WORKING TOGETHER, THE CITY NEUSE RIVER CDC HABITAT, WE MANAGE IT, THE PRIVATE ORGANIZATION, THE CHURCHES, YOU DON'T HEAR CELLO GROUPS OF PEOPLE WORKING TOGETHER AND ALL OTHER CITIES LIKE THE CITY OF NEW BRIAN AND THE CONDOM CRAVING.

AND NOW THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY.

I'M VERY PROUD.

AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEE, SEEING THAT WE GET THIS GRANT THAT'S COMING IN TO EVEN GO FURTHER FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE PEOPLE THAT NEEDS HELP.

THIS IS OUR DUTY TO HELP THOSE THAT NEED HELP, BECAUSE I'D RATHER BE ABLE TO HELP SOMEONE THAN TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR SOMEONE TO COME HELP ME.

AND NOW WE'RE EVEN MORE PROUD LAST WEEK WHEN I FOUND OUT THAT THEY HAD SOME MONEY THAT COULD BE GOTTEN IN THERE OR IN THE CITY AND CRAVEN COUNTY AND FOUND OUT THAT THE CITY COULDN'T APPLY FOR THESE MONEY HAD TO COME THROUGH THE COUNTY AND, UH, MIKE AND, UH, HABITAT THE BLASKIE.

THEY, THEY GOT VERY BUSY TRYING TO CONTACT THE COUNTY TO SEEK WITH THE COUNTY, WORKED LONG ENOUGH AND TO GET THESE FUNDS.

AND I THINK IT WAS ABOUT $300,000 THAT WAS LAYING OUT THERE.

THE RULES CHANGED AT THE LAST MINUTE.

AND SO THE CEREAL, THE CITY, THE CITY CAN'T APPLY FOR IT, BUT THE COUNTY CAN.

SO THE COUNTY REDUCED BY HAVING TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING THAT SAME WEEK, LAST, LAST THURSDAY, AND, AND BUMPED OFF AND BOUGHT IT BEFORE THE COUNTY COMMISSION.

AND THEY ACCEPTED IT.

AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THAT'S, DON'T HAPPEN OVERNIGHT.

I'M LESS PROUD.

AND I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT IF WE KEEP ON WORKING TOGETHER, WE WILL BE IN GREAT SHAPE BECAUSE EVERYONE KNOWS THAT WE ARE RUNNING SHORT OF WALL AND WE KNOW THE CITY, THEY GOT PLENTY OF WALDEN TO WORK TOGETHER, TO GET THESE THINGS DONE.

I APPRECIATE IT.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT.

OKAY.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THE FIRST ROAD? UH, I DID NOT GO TO SACK ANYBODY ON THE SECOND ROW HERE TO MAKE ANY COMMENT ON THE

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CDBG GRANT.

NOBODY.

HOW ABOUT THE THIRD ROW, THE THIRD ROW, FIRST GIVING HONOR TO GOD AND THANKING HIM FOR WAKING ME UP THIS MORNING AND EVERYBODY ELSE WHO IS UNDER THE SOUND OF MY VOICE.

I AM CALVIN E BROWN, AND I LIVE IN A MOBILE HOME AND DUFFY FOR YOU.

AND I WATCHED THE HOUSES BEING TORN DOWN.

I HAD ALWAYS BEEN TOLD THAT THE LAND ITSELF WELL.

OKAY.

SO YOU GOT A LOT OF BAD LOTS OF NOW, BUT A BUILDING OR STRUCTURE OF SOME TYPE IS AN IMPROVEMENT ON THAT LAND.

SO I ASKED WHAT IS GOING TO BE SET ON THOSE LOTS.

THEY SIT THERE BARE AND EMPTY.

NOW ALL THEY BEING FOR SALE, OR CAN YOU BUY THEM, OR WHAT IS THE REAL LOW DOWN ON THOSE VACANT LOTS? UH, I, MYSELF, LIKE I SAID, LIVE IN A MOBILE HOME, SINGLE, SINGLE WIDE, AND THE, UM, ORDERS FOR SINGLE WIDES NOW HAS DECLINED.

AND YOU HAVE TO HAVE A DOUBLE WIDE, WELL, I RENT A LOCK, BUT THE TRAILER IS MINE.

I PAID FOR IT WHILE I WAS AT BETHLEHEM STEEL IN THAT MILL MAKING HOT STEEL.

BUT WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF I LIVE LONG, BE 73, WHEN IT COMES TO THE 14TH OF MAY HERE, UH, PUTTING A DOUBLE WIDE ON SOMEBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY IS NOT MY, MY, MY, MY THING.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO DO YOU TALK TO, OR WHO DO YOU GET IN TOUCH WITH? OR MAYBE JUST, MAYBE I MIGHT LAST LONG ENOUGH TO PUT A DOUBLE WIDE DOWN.

THANK YOU, MIKE, COULD YOU ANSWER THAT BLAZE? IT WASN'T BRASH.

OKAY.

UH, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY REMAINS IN THE OWNERSHIP OF THE PARTIES ON WHICH THE STRUCTURE WAS CLEARED.

UH, WE DO HAVE SOME PROPERTIES THAT, UH, THE CITY HAS COME INTO OWNERSHIP OF.

AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IS WORKING WITH THE NEUSE RIVER CDC, AND THEN THEY IN TURN WORK WITH HABITAT, UH, TO TURN THOSE INTO OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTIES.

BUT, UH, ANYONE THAT'S INTERESTED, UH, COULD COME BY MY OFFICE AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AND SEE WHAT POSSIBILITIES MIGHT BE OUT THERE.

UH, THERE ARE SOME PROGRAMS, THERE ARE SOME, UH, PRIVATE DEVELOPERS THAT ARE WORKING ON, UH, TRYING TO EXPAND AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE AREA.

SO, UH, BE GLAD TO TALK WITH THEM, JUST COME BY THE PLANNING OFFICE, GIVE US A CALL AND WE'LL SEE WHAT SOME OF THE POSSIBILITIES ARE.

MR. BROWN, DO YOU KNOW HOW TO GET UP WITH HIM? OKAY.

HE'LL TAKE CARE OF YOUR NEEDS.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT ROAD? UM, ONE OF MY CONCERNS FOR THE DEPTH OF FEAR AREA, AS FAR AS THE KIDS, I HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT'S 14 LAST YEAR, THE ONE, THE SUMMERTIME BEFORE SCHOOL ENDED, I CALLED THE WHAT'S THAT PLACE DOWN THERE WHERE THE POLICE OFFICES AND DEFINITELY FEEL WE CAN SEE, WE DIDN'T SEE, TRY TO VOLUNTEER MY DAUGHTER TO DO SOMETHING AT THE Y OR JUST ANYTHING.

THERE'S NOTHING FOR THE KIDS.

SO WHAT ELSE IS THERE FOR THEM TO DO, BUT TO HANG IN THE STREET.

AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD REALLY WELL, AS FAR AS THIS GRANT, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING WHERE THEY CAN BE TRAINED MAYBE FOR SOME TYPE OF JOBS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND ALSO WITH THE HOUSING AND THINGS LIKE THAT OVER THERE, AND DEFINITELY FEEL I OWN MY OWN HOME, JUST FINISHED PAYING FOR IT.

BUT AS FAR AS ME GOING OUT TO HOOD, I NEED NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT IN MY HOUSE, BUT I CAN'T GET IT BECAUSE THEY SAID I MAKE TOO MUCH FOR TWO PEOPLE IN MY HOUSEHOLD, BUT I CAN'T SEE MYSELF PUTTING NEW WINDOWS AND NEW DOORS AND ALL THAT IN MY HOUSE FOR ME, I LIVE ON GRAY STREET AND DUFFY FIELD.

IT'S 11, 14 GRAY STREET.

MY NAME IS JACKIE ALLEN.

AND LIKE MR. I LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM MR. BROWN AND I SEE HOUSES AND THINGS BEING TORN DOWN.

AND I KINDA LIKE IT CAUSE I HAVE NO NEIGHBORS, BUT, BUT THEN AGAIN, IT'S, IT'S THE HOUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR, RIGHT BESIDE ME, I THINK IT'S 11, 16, GRACE.

AND I TRIED TO INQUIRE ABOUT THAT HOUSE, THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO BUY IT.

BUT THEN AGAIN, I DON'T HAVE NO MONEY, BUT I WAS TRYING, I'M LIKE, MAYBE I COULD JUST PAY THE TAXES ON IT AND TRY TO BUY THE HOUSE.

BUT I NEVER HEARD ANYTHING, ANY RESPONSE BACK FROM THE OWNERS.

SO I DON'T KNOW.

I KNOW THERE WAS, UM, SIGN UP THERE TO DEMOLISH THE HOUSE, BUT IT'S DOWN.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE, BUT I WOULD JUST REALLY LOVE TO SEE SOMETHING HAPPENING FOR THE KIDS OVER THERE.

CAUSE IT'S JUST HANGING IN THE STREET AND I DON'T ALLOW MY CHILD TO HANG OUT AT THE DOG.

AND SHE'S A GOOD GIRL, THANK GOD FOR THAT.

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BUT, UM, I WOULD JUST LOVE TO SEE SOME THINGS LIKE THAT HAPPENING.

AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE THAT CAN GET SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND THINGS FOR THE HOUSES, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT DONE.

ALSO.

ARE YOU TALKING, LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION.

YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE A VOLUNTEER JOB WITHOUT PAY JUST SOMETHING TO COME DO SOMETHING, LEARN.

I MEAN, RAISING HIS HAND YEAH.

I CALLED HIM LAST YEAR.

I'M LIKE, PLEASE GIVE THIS GIRL SOMETHING, SOMEBODY LAST YEAR, I'M LIKE, PLEASE GIVE HER SOMETHING TO DO.

CAUSE HE SEE, SEE SHE'S SITTING IN THE HOUSE, JUST LOOKING AT TV ALL DAY.

RIGHT.

AND I WANT HER TO DO SOMETHING WHERE HER TIME AND THERE'S LIKE I SAID, THERE'S NOTHING TO DO.

I, I BOUGHT OUT AND I SEE THE KIDS IN THE STREET, BUT I DON'T ALLOW MY DAUGHTER.

AND SHE'S A SMART GIRL AND I WANT HER TO GO SOMEPLACE AND DO SOME THINGS.

BUT UNTIL THERE WAS SOME TYPE OF PROGRAM WITHIN THE CITY OF NEWBURGH FOR THE KIDS TO DO SOMETHING, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO.

WHAT ELSE ARE THEY GOING TO DO? BUT GO OUT AND TRY TO SELL DRUGS AND TRY TO MAKE PICKED UP.

I GOT THE FEELING THAT, UH, WHERE THE COMMENT THAT SHE MADE, SHE MIGHT BE IN LUCK.

I HOPE SO.

SHE GIVES A COUPLE, WELL, WE APPRECIATE THAT.

THE COMMENTS, ANYBODY ELSE ON THAT ROAD.

OKAY.

NOBODY ELSE ON THAT.

OKAY.

HOW ABOUT THE ROAD BEHIND ANYBODY? THERE THEY COME HERE TONIGHT TO SPEAK.

OKAY.

YOU WOULD COME FORWARD WITH IT.

ALL RIGHT.

MY NAME IS SELENA SCHAFFER AND I JUST HAPPENED TO JOT A FEW THINGS DOWN AFTER HEARING MIKE.

FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE NAME OF THAT GRANT CDBG OKAY.

WELL, FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO SEE SIDEWALKS PUT IN THE DEBRIS FIELD NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE YOU HAVE, WE HAVE, UM, PEOPLE THAT ARE RIDING THEIR WHEELCHAIRS IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET DUE TO NO SIDEWALKS.

THE OTHER THING IS A STORM STORM DRAINS ON CEDAR STREET ALONE.

IT FLOODS ABOUT TWO FEET OF WATER OR MORE.

YOU CANNOT GO, THERE'S A STREET CALLED BEING IN.

YOU CAN NOT CROSS THE STREET TO GET INTO THE LOCAL SUPERMARKET.

THE OTHER THING IS, IS I'D LIKE TO SEE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH SIGNS, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE SPEED LIMIT SIGNS POSTED IN THE AREA.

AND THERE ARE SOME AREAS THAT I BELIEVE ALSO NEED SPEED BUMPS BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING ENTIRELY TOO FAST.

EXCUSE ME.

YES.

AND DUFFY FIELD.

THE OTHER THING IS I'D LIKE TO SEE PROPER LIGHTING.

IT'S ENTIRELY TOO DARK IN SOME AREAS, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE GOING FOR A WALK AFTER DINNER.

THE OTHER THING WOULD BE PAVED STREETS.

FOR INSTANCE, I, UM, HAPPENED TO BE ON, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF THE STREET.

IT'S CLOSE TO FRONT STREET AND IT'S A LITTLE ALLEY, BUT IT'S PAVED.

YOU GO INTO DUFFY FIELD.

YOU VERY FEW STREETS ARE PAVED OR EITHER THEY PATCHED THEM UP AND DUE TO RAIN AND TRUCKS GOING THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU GET DITCHES AGAIN, THEY'RE HOLES.

AS FAR AS RECREATION, I'D LIKE TO SEE SOMETHING OF A STRUCTURED ENVIRONMENT SUCH AS THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB OR EVEN A FOUR H PROGRAM OR EVEN A VOCATIONAL PROGRAM, UM, GEARED TO HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS.

THE OTHER THING WOULD BE, UM, THERE'S OVERGROWTH OF TREES THAT BLOCK THE S UM, THE STOP SIGNS.

CAUSE ACTUALLY I HAD AN ACCIDENT FROM AN OVERGROWTH TREE BLOCKING THE SIGN AND I RAN THE STOP SIGN.

NOT KNOWING THAT IT WAS THERE.

I PERSONALLY DID NOT AGREE WITH ALL THOSE HOMES BEING TORN DOWN IN A DUFFY FIELD NEIGHBORHOOD AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS IN THAT AREA.

I DO BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE HOMES SHOULD HAVE BEEN TORN, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M THANKFUL THAT YOU'RE COMING HERE WITH GRANT MONEY TOO.

BECAUSE IF YOU HAPPEN TO DECIDE TO TEAR DOWN ANY MORE HOMES, PERHAPS THERE WILL BE MONEY AVAILABLE TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE.

WHO'S SICK TO AVOID THEIR PROPERTY BEING OR THEIR HOMES BEING DOWN.

THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY.

COULD YOU TELL US WHERE YOU ARE, YOUR ADDRESS, YOUR ADDRESS INTO 300, THREE CRAVE AND TEARS? I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS.

ANYBODY ELSE? RIGHT.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

AYE.

RIGHT.

NEXT THING WE HAVE IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, THE HANDSOME.

OKAY.

I'D LIKE TO, UH, YOU KNOW, INTERJECT SOME IDEAS ON BEHALF OF THE COMMUNITIES AND ESPECIALLY, UM,

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IN WOODROW AND IN PLEASANT HILL SO THAT YOU, SINCE THERE IS NO ONE HERE FROM THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS, THERE ARE KINDS OF CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE DEVELOPMENTS THERE, AS WE MAKE REFERENCE TO THE DITCHES AND WE MAKE REFERENCE TO THE MONIES THAT YOU SET AVAILABLE FOR THE HOMEOWNERS TO, UH, YOU KNOW, HOOK UP TO THE SEWER AND THOSE OTHER KINDS OF NEEDS THAT ARE DEFINITELY NEED NEEDED.

UM, ALSO I HAD ON MY LIST TO DIET TO SAY THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, EVEN THOUGH WHEN WE FIRST STARTED THIS REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT, OVER A DEPTH OF FIELD, WE LOADED A BUS AND WE WENT TO DUFFY FIELD AND WE SAW THE KIND OF CONDITIONS PEOPLE WERE LIVING IN.

AND IT MIGHT BE TIME FOR US TO LOAD A BUS AND GO OVER THERE AND SEE SOME OF THE POSITIVE KINDS OF THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING OVER THERE.

I KNOW I'M SURE THAT THERE WERE A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T QUITE UNDERSTAND WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH WITHIN, SO THESE ELABORATED HOMES WERE BEING TORN DOWN.

BUT NOW WHAT I FIND IS AMAZING ON K STREET WHERE WE, UH, SOME OF THE HOUSES WERE TOWING DOWN THE HOUSE WOULD THAT COULD BE SAVED.

WE'RE MOVED BACK TO FOLLOW A LANE.

I THINK IT'S UNIQUE.

IT'S VERY, VERY UNIQUE KIND OF DEVELOPMENT THAT'S GOING ON OVER THERE TO SEE THAT THESE HOUSES THAT WERE BOUGHT THROUGH THE HAZARD MITIGATION PROJECT ARE NOW BEING MOVED TO THE STREET OVER.

AND IT WILL BE REDEVELOPED BY HABITAT.

THAT'S THAT COLLABORATION MR. SAMSON WAS TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEN, SO TO SOME FIRST-TIME A HOMEOWNER IS GREAT AND THAT JUST, JUST SIGNIFY THE WHOLE INTENT OF THE CLEANUP.

AND THEN IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY GOT TO BE REVITALIZED.

THINGS LOOK BETTER OVER THERE.

GUYS.

THEY LOOK A LOT BETTER IN DUFFY FIELD AND IT FEELS A LOT BETTER.

YOU DON'T HAVE AS MUCH CRIME.

I'M SURE THERE'S STILL MORE CRIME.

THERE'S NOT AS MUCH LINGERING IN THE STREETS.

THERE'S NOT A MUCH GARBAGE ON THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.

THERE'S A LOT OF PRIDE HAS BEEN INSTILLED.

AND I LIKED THAT THE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON NOW WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT DOWN GARDEN STREET AND THE REDEVELOPMENT DOWN RALEIGH STREET IS LOOKING GOOD.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU RIDE BY THESE PLACES, ALL OF YOUR LIFE.

YOU DON'T EVEN NOTICE THEM BECAUSE ALL OF A SUDDEN BEGIN TO BE CLEAN LOOKING AND COLORFUL.

SO I THINK THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE COMPLAINED WHEN IT WAS NOT GOOD, THAT IS GOOD TO SEE THAT WE HAVE MADE SOME IMPROVEMENTS AND WE CAN'T GO TO LOOK AT IT.

IF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT CAN DO VIDEO, JUST TO SHOW US, I HOPE HE GOT PICTURES OF THE WAY IT WAS SO THAT YOU CAN SEE WHERE YOU'VE COME FROM AND THE WAY THAT HE WAS JUST NOW BECOMING AND WOULD ALWAYS WE GET IT TO BE SO IT'S COMING TOGETHER AND THAT'S GREAT.

THAT'S GREAT.

BUT, UH, IN PLEASANT HILL, IN PARTICULAR, IN PLEASANT HILL, THERE ARE A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT GOING ON NOW THAT IT HAS BEEN BROUGHT INTO THE CITY.

AND SO THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE BUYING HOMES, MOBILE HOMES, AND OTHER KINDS OF DEVELOPMENT, AND THEY'RE NEEDING HELP, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY I WAS GLAD TO HEAR YOU MAKE REFERENCE TO PROGRAMS THAT MIGHT, COULD BE HELPFUL TO PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HOOK ON TO THE STORE AND ALSO INDIVIDUAL AREA, AS THEY'RE NOW TRYING TO REBUILD, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNEW THAT THIS IS HOW FOLKS THINK OF THEIR, I MISS SAY I GOING TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I DIDN'T THINK I FORGET THAT HE KNOWS WE MAY HAVE.

YEAH.

KRISTEN, MIKE, ALSO IN WITH YOUR PLANNING GOING FORWARD WITH THE GRANT, A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO BE PHASED OUT THE IDEAS THAT CAME OUT OF THE DEPTH OF FIELD PLAN THAT JUST COMPLETED.

OKAY.

IN DOING THAT AND ARE A LOT OF THINGS THAT THE MIDDLE LADY, UM, BROUGHT OUT THE OTHER THING TO OTHER ONLY ABOUT CHILDREN, THAT WAS DEFINITELY SOMETHING TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE STRONG POINTS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE W A PROGRAM BECAUSE CHILDREN PLAYED A BIG PRODUCT.

THEY KEPT BRINGING BACK SOMETHING FOR CHILDREN.

SO WITH THE DELTA FIELD PLAN OUT THERE, WE'RE GOING TO COVER A LOT OF THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT OUT HERE TONIGHT.

YEAH.

LET ME ASK YOU THIS THOUGH, AS YOU MAKE REF, AS YOU PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR, UM, UH, CDBG MONIES FOR IN THE, UH, CONCENTRATED NEEDS AREA, ARE YOU ANTICIPATING CONTINUING DOWN RALEIGH OR CONTINUING DOWN GUARD? I DID ONCE BEFORE WHEN WE GOT INTO AN AREA AND WE TRY TO CONCENTRATE ON THAT PARTICULAR AREA UNTIL WE GOT IT DEVELOPED VERY NICELY.

LOOK AT IT, TRYING TO CONTINUE IN THE PATH IS AN AVENUE TO HAVE A BETTER SECOND OF A NEIGHBORHOOD VERSUS SPOTTING.

SO IT'S POSSIBLE THAT, WHAT ABOUT, UM, CURVING AND GUTTERING

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IS THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS THERE BEGINNING, UH, UM, COMMUNITY INCENTIVE DOWN WASHINGTON STREET? AND I DIDN'T KNOW IF, SINCE ROCK, IF RALEIGH STREET, IF, IF, IF THE WIDENING OF THE STREETS, OR ESPECIALLY IN THAT LITTLE DEEP CURVE ON WHAT, ON W WASHINGTON AND RALEIGH, YOU KNOW.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

IS ANYBODY TAKING NOTES IT'S ELIGIBLE, BUT IT DOES NOT RELATE AS HIGH AS IN WATER.

OKAY.

LET ME SAY ALSO TO THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN DEPUTY FIELD, WHEN YOU SEE ACTIVITY GOING ON OUT THERE, IT'S BECAUSE WE CARE ABOUT WHAT GOES ON IN DEPTH OF FIELD.

WE WANT TO MAKE IT A BETTER NEIGHBORHOOD SO THAT YOU CAN LIVE LIFE AND LIVE IT MORE ABUNDANTLY.

SOMEBODY SAID ONE TIME.

AND SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE, WE'RE UP TO WE WON'T, A FOUR BRADWELL AREA.

I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW.

I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON DRIVEWAY ALSO.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE ANSWER IS TO THAT.

I WOULD ASSUME DANNY, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THAT CONCEPT OF WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT? OKAY.

WELL, IF YOU CHECK WITH HIM AFTER THE MEETING AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT BY WAY, I THINK WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT IS SIMPLY A SUMP FOR THE WATER TO COLLECT IT.

SO YOU CAN PUMP IT OUT.

WE'RE WORKING ON A MAJOR PROJECT THAT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THE APPLICATION FOR FUNDING FOR A TOTALLY DIFFERENT THING.

IN THAT RESPECT.

THAT'S A MAJOR PROJECT.

IN FACT, SINCE HE BROUGHT THAT QUESTION UP, DANNY, WHY DON'T YOU JUST GIVE A QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE PUMPING STATION? THAT'S GOING TO BE DOWN THERE ON ROSE STREET.

I BELIEVE IN, UM, BUT, UH, WE DID GET SOME HAZARD MITIGATION MONEY FOR SOME DRAINAGE.

WE, IF YOU REMEMBER, WE SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR THINGS ABOUT $3 MILLION WORTH OF DRAINAGE PROJECTS.

IT WAS ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT ALL TOGETHER.

AND TWO OF THEM GOT FUNDED.

ONE IS THE, A PUMPING STATION WE'VE GOTTEN DOWN AT THE END OF A FIDDLE AND THE STREETS, AND THE OTHER ONE IS DOWN AT EACH ROWS, THE DESIGN, AND, AND WE'VE JUMPED THROUGH ALL THE HOOPS WITH THE RAILROAD AND EVERYTHING ELSE ON THAT, UH, PROJECT WHERE WE'LL BE PUTTING IN A 3000 GALLON, A MINUTE PUMP, UH, AND INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE PIPE THAT GOES ON THE RAILROAD, WHICH IS GOING TO HELP MOVE THAT WATER A LOT QUICKER.

AND THAT SHOULD BE GOING TO BE, IS, UH, MET WITH, UH, ONE OF MY YOUNG ENGINEERS, RICH MOORE THE OTHER DAY.

AND I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING TO BE A TEAR IN THE NECK BY THE NEXT WEEK AND SHOULD BE UNDER, UH, CONSTRUCTION, UH, DEPENDING ON HOW THE STATE LOOKS AT THE BEDS WITHIN A MILE.

YEAH.

BUT WHAT IS THE EFFECT OF THAT HOLE AT THE END OF F STREET TO GO INTO F AND WHAT'S THE EFFECT ON IT? THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE SOME KIND OF, YEAH, IT WAS CONSTRUCTED, UH, YEARS AGO WITH CDBG MONEY.

UH, THINK BACK IN THE 85, 6, SOMEWHERE ALONG IN THERE, UH, JUST AS A BASIN WHERE WATER COULD RUN AND SIT AND HOPEFULLY GO IN THE GROUND AND EVAPORATE OF WHATEVER IT WAS UPGRADED, UH, ABOUT 87 OR EIGHT, I THINK, TO WHERE THERE WAS A SMALL PUMP, 500 GALLON, A MINUTE PUMP.

I THINK IT WAS, IT WAS PUT INTO THAT PUMPING UNDER THE RAILROAD, INTO THE BIG CAGE TO GO OUT.

SO, SO BASICALLY THE WATER FROM, UH, UH, AS FAR OVER AS THE LADY WAS TALKING ABOUT ON CEDAR STREET, SOME OF THAT WATER IS IT RAISES UP QUICKER THAN IT CAN GO OUT.

THE DRAIN BACKS DOWN THE ROAD.

IT GETS INTO A STORM RAIN AND WORKS ITS WAY BACK THROUGH INTO THAT.

AND THEN IT'S PUMPED DOWN AND WITH THIS NEW PUMP, UH, UH, WE'LL BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT WATER OUT OF THERE A LOT QUICKER, 3000 GALLONS, A MINUTES, PRETTY FRISKY.

THAT'S PRETTY FRISKY.

ALRIGHT, HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THERE NOW WE'VE GOT SOME OTHER FOLKS WHO WANTED TO COMMENT.

WE'LL GO AHEAD.

UM,

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NOTHING JOHNNY FOX INSPECTION DEPARTMENT DETERMINED WHETHER THAT FITS IN CERTAIN CATEGORIES AND BASICALLY WHAT YOU HAVE IS, UH, A HOUSE LESS.

IT WOULD TAKE LESS SENTENCE BAGGY TO REPAIR.

IT IS CONSIDERED THE LAB DETERIORATED AND IS ONE A SEPARATELY SOUND.

WHEN THE COST OF READING ADDED IS GREATER THAN 75% OF THIS BAG IS CONSIDERED THE LATTER DAY AND REHABILITATION.

IT IS VERY UNLIKELY.

IT IS POSSIBLE.

I IN HOUSES THAT WERE 95% Y'ALL REHAB, UH, BUT THERE IS NOT A FEASIBILITY AND THEY GAVE ME ONE, JUSTIFY IT TO THE BRAND AGENCY.

THIS IS THE GETTING THE MONEY THAT IS ERASABLE EXPENDITURE OR FINDING A PRIVATE PARTY.

THAT'S WILLING TO PUT THE MONEY.

GENERALLY THE CENTER OF THAT STRUCTURE, THE VALUE, UH, IS THE BRIGHTEST , WHICH TYPICALLY IS VERY FEASIBLE FIRST, THE LAST DAY OF, SO WE DON'T HAVE IT.

WE CAN'T JUST GO IN AND JUST, JUST DECIDE, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE THIS ONE AND NOT MOVE THIS ONE.

AND THAT KIND OF THING, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO MEET THE CRITERIA OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE GIVEN US THE MONEY SAY, I MEAN, WE JUST CAN'T JUST DO IT BECAUSE WE WANT TO DO IT KIND OF DEAL.

THE ELDER GENTLEMAN DIDN'T WANT TO SPEAK.

WE NEED TO DO, IF YOU WANT TO COME UP EDIT.

AND MIKE SAID, OKAY, WELL, IF YOU DON'T, DON'T FEEL LIKE MAKING IT STAY BY.

IT DOESN'T MATTER.

I'M A MEMBER OF THE UPTOWN BUSINESS ASSOCIATION IN NEW BERN.

AND MY FOCUS IN THE UPTOWN SOCIAL ASSOCIATION BUSINESS IS TO WORK WITH THOSE YOUNG GUY THAT'S ON THE STREET, THAT'S HANGING ON THOSE CORNERS AND DOING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT YOU SEE.

YOU MADE A COMMENT JUST NOW THAT YOU'RE GLAD TO SEE SOME CHANGES IN THE DUFFER FOR YOUR AREA.

I VOLUNTEERED MYSELF TO WORK WITH, UH, WHEN I WAS ASKED TO WORK WITH THE WEED AND SEED PROGRAM AND, UH, THE WEED SEED PROGRAM, UH, GOT ME AND ANOTHER CONTRACTOR FROM, UH, JACKSONVILLE KNOCKER ATLANTA.

AND THEY AWARDED ME HALF OF THE CONTRACT AND THEY'LL WATER THE OTHER GUY, HALF THE CONTRACT AND THE WEED AND SEED PROGRAM.

UH, REAL, IT'S NOT SET UP TO ME.

THEY'RE NOT SET UP FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO DO.

IT'S A GOOD, IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.

BUT THE DIRECTOR OF THE PROGRAM, HE TOLD ME ONE THING AND ENDED UP BEING ANOTHER THING.

AND I, I WAS JUST IN, IN THROUGHS ABOUT GETTING SOME OF THE GUYS AND I GOT ABOUT FOUR OR FIVE OF THE GUYS, ALL FROM THE STREETS, DRINKING WINE.

ONE GUY WAS LIVING IN A CRACK HOUSE AND I EVEN GAVE HIM A PLACE TO STAY.

AND I PUT THOSE GUYS TO WORK AND THEY FOUND OUT THE WEED AND SEED PROGRAM.

I FOUND OUT THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR WHO I WAS WORKING WITH.

I NEEDED SOMEBODY TO WORK WITH IN CASE MY WORK RUNS OUT.

AND THEN HE FOUND OUT WHO I WAS WORKING WITH AND THEY MIGHT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THIS INDIVIDUAL.

I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE INDIVIDUAL.

I WAS TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO, TO WORK WITH ME SO I COULD KEEP THESE GUYS WORKING.

AND THEY BOOTED ME OUT.

THEY HAD A MEETING, THEY BOOTED ME OUT.

I SPENT ABOUT $1,500 IN MY OWN MONEY, KEEPING THESE GUYS BUSY AND KEEPING THESE GUYS FOCUSED AND, UH, HAD OTHER CO UH, BRICK, LET THEM HAVE BRICK LAYERS FOR THAT OTHER GUYS WORKING WITH THEM.

AND, UH, I THINK THAT THE CHIEF, UH, COMMENDED ME ABOUT WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO.

IF YOU CAN REMEMBER, HE COMMENDED ME FOR WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO.

AND NOW, UH, I DON'T HAVE, UH, ANY WORK FOR THESE GUYS TO DO.

UH, I TOOK A LOSS WITH THE WEED AND SEED PROGRAM, AND NOW, UH, I LEFT THIS MORNING.

I LEFT FOUR GUYS ON THE STREET, BREAKING BILL ON THE SAME CORNERS THAT I PICKED

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THEM UP.

IS THERE ANY THING YOU CAN DO CHIEF SENT YOU SEEM TO BE FAMILIAR WITH THE SITUATION THAT IT HELPED HIM, UH, IN THE FUTURE? WELL, THE PROBLEM IS THIS, FIRST OF ALL, UH, THERE WAS A MEETING OF THE WHEATON CITY EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE AND MR. LEON MADE A PROPOSAL AND THEN SUBMITTED DOCUMENTS AFTER THE MEETING, THE COMMITTEE AGREED TO RECEIVE HIS PROPOSAL.

NO, NO CONTRACTS WERE ISSUED, NO, UH, PURCHASE ORDERS WERE ISSUED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

AND WHAT WE FOUND WAS THAT, UH, LEON DOESN'T HAVE A CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE AND HE CAN'T BORROW SOMEBODY'S LICENSE TO DO THIS TEACHING THAT HE WANTED TO DO.

SO WHEN HE MADE THE SUBMISSION AND SHOW THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE A CONTRACTOR'S LICENSE, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO GO FORWARD WITH THE PURCHASE ORDERS AND, AND AUTHORIZED HIS, UM, TRAINING OF THESE PEOPLE.

WE NEEDED A LICENSED CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT.

NOT SOMEBODY WORKING OFF OF SOMEBODY ELSE'S LICENSE TO DO IT.

SO THAT'S WHY IT WAS WITHHELD.

I'M NOT SURE WHAT, UH, LEON WAS TALKING ABOUT REGARDING THESE PEOPLE OR WHAT EXPENSES HE HAD, BECAUSE IT ALL HAPPENED WHERE THE MEETING HAPPENED.

WE, UH, HEARD WHAT HE HAD TO SAY.

WE APPROVED THE CONCEPT, AND THEN WE HAD HIM SUBMIT A PROPOSAL WITH ALL OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS REQUIRED.

AND THAT'S WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT HE DIDN'T HAVE A LICENSE.

LET ME, LET ME SEE, I'M GONNA LET YOU GO AHEAD AND SAY THIS, BUT THIS REALLY IS NOT ON THE AGENDA.

AND IT'S NOT PART OF WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING TONIGHT, BUT GO AHEAD AND MAKE A COMMENT THAT FIRST OF ALL, THEY DIDN'T ASK FOR A LICENSE CONTRACT.

AND SECOND OF ALL, I AM THE SECRETARY OF THE COMPANY.

AND, UH, WE DO HAVE A TAX IDENTIFICATION NUMBER, AND MY NAME IS ON THE TAX IDENTIFICATION.

AND I LOVE THE VICE-PRESIDENT OF THE COMPANY AND, AND THEIR SOULS.

IF I'M WORKING ON A CONTRACTOR AND HIS NAME COME UP AND WE WORKING TOGETHER, I DON'T SEE WHERE, WELL, LET ME, LET ME ASK THIS.

WOULD IT BE PROPER FOR MR. WARD, LOOK INTO THIS THING, WAS THAT PART OF AND SEED DIRECTLY FOR THE WEED AND SEED PROGRAM CONTROLS THAT PROGRAM.

WE DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY TO DEAL WITH IT, PERIOD.

SO THAT'S PART OF SOME FEDERAL GRANT MONEY AND SO FORTH AND SO ON.

SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN JUST BEING PART OF OUR CITY ORGANIZATION, BUT I FOUND THE CHIEF TO BE A FAIR INDIVIDUAL.

AND I, YOU KNOW, IF HE LOOKS INTO IT AND THEY SATISFIED, YOU KNOW, THAT THINGS WERE DONE THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.

I MEAN, THAT'S IT.

IN FACT, I THINK YOU'RE THE ONE THAT HAS TO ANSWER, ARE YOU NOT TO THE WELL THE GRANT, BUT I THINK THAT MR. REAGAN WAS BORING AND CORRECT.

IF LEON HAS A GRIEVANCE WITH THE ISSUES THAT THE BOARD TOOK, HE NEEDS TO GO BACK TO THE WEED AND SEED, UH, BOARD, NOT THIS BOARD BECAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES WHO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT TO DO SOMETHING.

AND THEY DECIDE WITH THE ADVICE OF THE FINANCE DEPARTMENT AND, YOU KNOW, THE PURCHASING MECHANISMS OF THE CITY.

BUT CERTAINLY IF HE COMES BACK, PLEADS HIS CASE TO THE BOARD, AND THERE'S NO LEGAL ISSUES THAT WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED ABOUT.

AND I THINK THERE ARE, BUT IF THERE ARE NONE, THEN THE BOARD CAN REVERSE THEIR, SO HE HAS HIS STAFF IS TO GO BACK TO THE ABSOLUTE EXECUTIVE BOARD AND ARGUE THAT.

CAN YOU GET AHOLD OF MR. BRYANT AT THE WEED AND SEED OFFICE AND MAKE ARRANGEMENTS TO APPEAR AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING? AND, UH, TALK ABOUT THE ISSUE THERE.

OKAY.

AND LEAH, I'M NOT SURE.

I KNOW YOU I'VE BEEN KNOWING YOU FOR MANY YEARS AND I CONSIDER YOU A GOOD MAN, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR YOU, BUT WE JUST DON'T HAVE ANY AUTHORITY.

I DON'T NOTICE A LOT OF NEW, WELL, GO BACK TO THAT BOARD AND THEN TELL THEM JUST WHAT YOU TOLD US AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

ALRIGHT, NEXT THING WE HAVE, AND NOBODY HAS ANY MORE COMMENTS ON THE BOARD IS THE CONSENT AGENDA, CONSENT AGENDA.

OKAY.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OF THAT? NOT MAY I MAKE ONE STYLE ITEM 20 IS THE TOP RESOLUTION, EXCEPT IN ALL PEACE ROAD PROPERTY THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE CONDITIONALLY.

SO AS TO GIVE PLANNING AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONSIDER WHETHER THAT ONE LOT IS A SUB TODAY, SO THAT THEY HAVE THE APPROVED SUBDIVISION, WE'RE IN THE POSSESSION OF SELLING.

THE PROBLEM IS WE GOT AN OFFER ON IT, BUT NOW WE NEED TO TALK TO OUR PLANNING STAFF TO BE SURE THAT THE PLAN IS THAT AUTHORIZED SALES A LOT.

DO WE NEED TO REMOVE IT? I MEAN, APPROVAL

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AND APPROVAL OF THE FILE.

SO WE NEED TO PULL IT THREE QUARTER ACRE, LOT THAT WE CAN SAY, DO IT CONDITIONALLY.

YEAH.

ONE, THREE QUARTER ACRE LOT.

YEAH, BUT IT SHOULD BE, HAVE A MINOR SUBDIVISION REVIEW THAT WOULD ALLOW IT TO HANDLE FOR LAST, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THAT.

THANK YOU, MIKE.

I TALKED TO THE LADY, WHO'S TRYING TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND SHE TOLD ME THEY WERE GOING TO TRY TO BUILD ONE HOUSE THERE.

SO DOES THAT EQUAL A SUBDIVISION? THEY HAVE BEEN SOME EXCEPTIONS TO THAT.

JAKE BASED ON AN OPINION OF THE ATTORNEY GENERAL, BUT THAT WAS RATHER LIMITED SITUATION AND AGGRESSED A QUESTION.

AND I'M NOT SURE HE WAS CORRECT.

TECHNICALLY SPEAKING, I THINK IT DOES NEED TO SEE A PROOF THAT WE HAVE.

I WANT TO WITHDRAW MY ORIGINAL MOTION AND MAKE ANOTHER MOTION TO ADOPT THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE, UH, CONDITIONS TO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 20 AS EXPRESSED BY MR. WARD EARLIER.

YOU'RE A SECOND.

A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? NOT CALL ROLL PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.

OKAY.

NEXT THING WE, HEY, WAS IMPORTANT.

NO, SIR.

I DON'T HAVE IT THIS LATE.

NO, SIR.

NO, SIR.

MR. BELL AND MR. RAY.

NO, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

MISS LADY, MS. LEE.

YES, SIR.

ALL RIGHT.

UM, LET'S SEE.

IT'S IN PLEASANT HILL, DANNY TELLING ME TODAY.

OKAY.

I REMEMBER WEST BECAME BEFORE THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND ASKS YOU TO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT, YOUR COMMUNITY AND THEIR EFFORTS TO GET THEIR HIGHWAY RESURFACE.

DANNY MEADOWS CALL ME TODAY.

I TALKED TO GUMMY, WHO'S THE PRESIDENT OF THE COMMUNITY ORGANIZATION TODAY AND TELL HER ABOUT THIS.

SO YOU TELL THEM YES.

UH, MANAGER RECEIVED A LETTER, UH, FROM NCD OT THAT, UH, THE HIGHWAY 55 SECTION OF PLEASANT HILL IN THE CITY WILL BE RESURFACED.

IF YOU REMEMBER, THERE WAS AN ISSUE, UH, LAST YEAR, ABOUT PORTION OF IT DOWN FOR MARTIN MARIETTA TO WHAT'S IT CALLED BEAMAN FOLK.

I BELIEVE IT IS, WAS PAID AND THE REST OF IT WAS, AND THEN DOD HAS GONE BACK AND RE LOOKED AT IT AND FOUND SOME MONEY.

AND HASN'T REBURIED.

UH, THE CONTRACT BE AVAILABLE OR THE ROAD WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR RESURFACING APRIL ONE, I BELIEVE IT SAID SO SOMEWHERE THEREAFTER, IT WILL BE RESURFACED.

THAT'S GOOD.

I THOUGHT THAT WAS GOOD.

AND ALSO, UH, AS I WAS TALKING TO THIS ONE GIRL, SHE'S BEEN TRYING TO, SHE'S BEEN WORKING VERY DILIGENTLY IN THE COMMUNITY TO GET THE POST MASTER, TO ALLOW THEM TO PUT THEIR POST OFFICE BOXES IN FRONT OF EACH OF THEIR HOMES.

OKAY.

THAT HIGHWAY 55, TRADITIONALLY PEOPLE HAD THEIR MAILBOXES ON ONE SIDE, EVERYBODY GOT SO ASSIGNED TO LIVE ON YOUR MAILBOXES ON ONE SIDE.

BUT WITH THE INCREASED TRAFFIC, IT'S SORT OF DANGEROUS FOR THEM TO GO ACROSS THE STREET TO GET THE MAIL.

SO SHE TRIED TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE POSTMASTER TO WHOMEVER TO GET THE POST OFFICE POST OFFICE BOXES, SINCE THEY'RE IN THE CITY, IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSE, LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE IN THIS CITY DO AND HAVING DIFFICULTY.

SO I SAID, I WOULD ASK TO SEE THEN IF YOU KNOW WHO WE NEED TO LOBBY SO THAT THEY CAN GET THEIR MAIL DELIVERED TO THEIR HOMES.

WELL, WHEN I NEEDED TO GET A ROAD PUT IN BY THE POST OFFICE, THEY WOULDN'T COOPERATE.

I, I GOT THE BALL WITH JOAN AND JUST SORT OF WRITING THEM A LETTER.

AND WE GOT IN THE ROAD, WALTER JONES.

OH, LOTS OF TIMES FOR YOU.

OKAY, GO AHEAD.

OKAY.

BOTH OF THEM MISS THE PHRASE, DO YOU HAVE NOTHING UNDER MISCELLANEOUS? YEAH.

I'VE GOT

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TWO QUICK COMMENTS.

I'D LIKE TO MAKE, I LIKE A PSYCH DANNY AND THE DOD FOR CHANGING THE, UH, TURNING LANES ON A PINE TREE.

UH, DANNY AND MYSELF, HE ARRANGED THE MEETING AND WE RODE AROUND AND THEY AGREED TO THE CHANGE THAT IN HAVE ALREADY CHANGED.

IT, PUT THE SIGNS UP.

THEY ALSO AGREED OR MCCARTHY TO STUDY WHETHER THEY SHOULD PUT IT ON LEFT-HAND TURN LANE OR NOT TO SEE WHICH, WHICH WAY THE TRAFFIC WOULDN'T BE HURT THE WORST.

AND SO THAT STUDY IS IN PROCESS FOR THOSE PEOPLE.

THAT'S BEEN CALLING ME.

AND, UH, I THINK THEY'RE GOING TO FIND THAT THEY NEED A LEFT-HAND TURN LANE IN THAT AREA, BUT STILL WE AGREED TO A STUDY TO SEE WHETHER THEIR OWN CROSSING THE TRAFFIC OR THE LEFT TURN WOULD BE HURT THE MOST.

SO IT ISN'T PROCESSED FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT HAVE CALLED ME ON THAT.

IF ANYBODY, UH, IF YOU HEAR ANYBODY TALK ABOUT YOU, STEPHEN, THAT VALENTINE, IT WAS ME.

AND I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT, UH, JUST KNEW YOU WERE OKAY.

MR. PARR HAD, OH, WELL I GOT A LITTLE BIT OF MISCELLANEOUS.

I'D LIKE TO SAY THAT, UH, WE'VE GOT, WE WILL LET MR. WARD GO.

FIRST ONE, MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

I WROTE A MEMO LAST THURSDAY, ADDRESSING NEEDS THAT I HAD PERSONALLY IN CONNECTION WITH THE SALE.

A LOT IN WATER POINT WEST SIDE'S OWN FLOCK 10 AND PURCHASING LOT NINE NEXT TO IT PROPOSING THE BILL.

THEY'RE VERY LARGE, VERY BEAUTIFUL HOUSE.

AND HE HAD ASKED HIS LAWYER HAS ASKED THAT I SECURE A RELEASE OF THE BRAIN ENGINE UTILITIES, MONEY ON THE LINE BETWEEN THE TWO LIGHTS.

I SENT YOU A COPY OF THE RESOLUTION PAD QUITCLAIM DEED.

AND I WOULD APPRECIATE SO MOVING THAT.

YEAH, THEY CHECKED IT OUT.

THEY JUST MENTIONED TODAY.

WE HAD A MEETING BEFORE.

WELL, THEY CHECKED IT OUT KIND OF RIGHT HERE SIDE.

IS THAT ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION YOU WOULD NEED TO CALL ROLL ON THAT COUNT ROLL PLEASE.

MA'AM YES, YES, YES.

YEAH.

OKAY.

MA'AM DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? MISCELLANEOUS IS THE FOLLOWING.

YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT ALL THIS TRASH PROBLEM ALL AROUND THE CITY, ALL AROUND THE STATE AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, IF YOU DON'T FLY AND YOU DRIVE A LOT, LIKE I DO, IT'S EVEN OUTSIDE OF THE STATE AND THAT'S A COLOSSAL PROBLEM.

AND AS USUAL, WE'VE ALL KIND OF DONE THE BEST WE COULD ABOUT IT, AND IT STILL SEEMS TO BE THERE.

BUT I THINK IT'S TIME FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURGH TO ONCE AGAIN, SHOW THE REST OF THE FOLKS, I GUESS, HOW IT'S DONE.

SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS AT THE NEXT, UH, WORK SESSION, WHICH, WHAT IS THE DATE FOR THAT MARCH 23RD WORK SESSION, THIRD, TUESDAY MORNING FOR US TO PUT TOGETHER A SERIOUS PLAN.

AND HERE'S JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME ROUGH IDEAS OF WHAT I HAD ADDED, WHAT I HAVE IN MIND AS THE GREAT GENERAL COLIN POWELL SAID ONE TIME AT A NEWS CONFERENCE AROUND 1998, WHEN THEY ASKED HIM WHAT HE WAS GOING TO DO ABOUT THE REPUBLICAN GUARD.

HE SAID, WE GOING TO CUT IT OFF.

ARE WE GOING TO KILL IT? AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HE DID.

AND HE DID IT WITH AN OVERWHELMING FORCE.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO TO GIVE YOU JUST SOME IDEAS IS TO ENGAGE EVERYBODY IN THE CITY AND A PLAN FOR US TO CLEAN THIS CITY UP FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM AND DO IT ALL IN ONE DAY, WE'LL PICK A SATURDAY.

AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS WE'LL HAVE DIFFERENT TEAMS AND ALL WITH DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS TO TAKE CERTAIN STREETS AND, UH, EVEN YOURS TRULY.

I DON'T WANT MY WIFE TO SEE ME DOING IT AND THINK I'M GOING TO GET IN THE HABIT OF DOING MANUAL LABOR, BUT I'M GOING TO DO IT MYSELF.

AND WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN THIS PLACE UP FROM THE TOP TO THE BOTTOM.

AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO JUST TO GIVE YOU SOME, HOPEFULLY SOME INNOVATIVE IDEAS TO WORK ON THAT WE CAN PUT TOGETHER AT THE WORK SESSION.

I'D LIKE TO CHECK WITH THE OT OR WHOEVER WE NEED TO SO THAT WE CAN PUT SIGNS WHEN YOU ENTER THIS CITY, IT SAYS, THIS IS, AND WE CAN WORD IT THE WAY WE WANT IT.

THEN IT'S A NO TRASH, NO TOLERANCE, TRASH AND MAIN EXACTLY WHAT WE SAY.

IF YOU COMPLETED A CITY AND YOU HAVE AN UNCOVERED LOAD, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A TICKET.

IF YOU COME THROUGH THIS CITY AND THIS STUFF SPEWING OUT OF THE TOP OF YOUR VEHICLE OR OUT THE SIZE OF IT IS ALL OF US HAVE SEEN, YOU'RE GOING TO GET A TICKET, RIGHT? AND IF YOU HAVE TO BE, UH, TURNED IN BY THE GUY, UH, WALKING DOWN THE STREET, THAT HAPPENS TO OBSERVE

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IT.

SO BE, IT DOESN'T MATTER, BUT I'M GOING TO TELL YOU SOMETHING.

IF WE CAN'T CLEAN UP THIS CITY AND KEEP IT CLEAN, THEN, UH, I'M EMBARRASSED TO EVEN MENTIONED THAT A MAN MADE IT ALL THE WAY TO THE MOON.

SO, AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE DON'T DO IT.

NOBODY ELSE IS GOING TO DO IT.

AND I THINK IF WE DO IT, MAYBE WE CAN CALL SOMEONE AND OTHER PEOPLE TO DO IT THEMSELVES.

AND I HAVE GREAT CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN DO IT.

AND I KNOW WE CAN DO IT.

AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT IT IS IT'S REAL EASY AND IT'S HUMAN NATURE.

IF SOMETHING ALREADY HAS TRASH IN IT TO KIND OF, AH, WHAT THE HECK TOSS ONE MORE, YOU KNOW, AND THAT'S WHY WE REALLY NEED TO CLEAN IT UP.

SOME PEOPLE TO SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL WANNA MAKE THE GUY CLEAN UP HIS OWN YARD OR THIS OR THAT WEEK.

WE DON'T REALLY HAVE TIME FOR THAT.

WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN IT UP.

AND I'D LIKE TO SEE EVERYBODY IN EACH NEIGHBORHOOD, OF COURSE, CLEANING UP AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE CAN DO BY GETTING TOGETHER.

AND EVERYBODY KIND OF THINK IN THE MEANTIME, HAVE SOME NEIGHBORHOOD ACTIVIST, SO TO SPEAK THAT, THAT THE KIND OF PEOPLE THAT ARE MOVERS AND SHAKERS THAT'LL TAKE CHARGE OF THEIR STREET AND GET EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN IT.

AND, UH, SO EVERYBODY KIND OF PUT ON THEIR THINKING CAP AND BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT WORK SESSION AT THAT WORK SESSION, WE'LL PUT TOGETHER THE REAL PLAN OF HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT.

AND I ACTUALLY SET A DATE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I'D LIKE YOU TO CHECK ON DANNY IS TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE TO DO TO, UM, AND I'M SERIOUS TO LITERALLY PUT SIGNS INTO THE ENTRANCE OF THE CITY THAT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DON'T TOLERATE TRACK BIG FAT MORNING AND, UH, AND WE GOING BACK IT UP.

SO ANYWAY, THAT'S GOING TO BE OUR LITTLE JOB.

AND THEN WHEN WE GET DONE, I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO WANT TO HIT THIS CITY, NOTICE SOMETHING REAL NICE ABOUT IT.

AND THEY JUST CAN'T PUT THEIR FINGER ON IT ANY ANYWAY, I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW THIS BOARD CAN PUT TOGETHER THE PLANET AND I GUARANTEE YOU, CITIZENS OF THIS TOWN WE'LL MAKE IT HAPPEN.

AND I BELIEVE WE CLEANED THE OLD CITY IN ONE SATURDAY, PROBABLY LESS THAN THE SATURDAY WE GOT ON THAT FLIGHT WILL INVOLVE PUBLIC WORKS AND BODY ELSE, YOU KNOW, THE CRASH FOLKS GETTING OUT OF HERE, THE MARINE CORPS OFTEN PARTICIPATE IN ACTIVITIES LIKE THAT THROUGH OUR CLEAN SWEEP AND BOBBY THAT THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER ONCE WE HAD TO CLEAN UP CAMPAIGN AND DUFFIELD, AND THEY HAD THE MARINES TO VOLUNTEER TO HELP.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD STILL LIKE TO SEE, I SAID, I LIKE TO SEE OUR CITIZENS.

I READ A BELIEVE AND I'M JUST A SERIOUS LIKE ME WHEN THE PUBLIC HEARS ABOUT IT, YOU'LL HAVE ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU NEED TO STAND UP, BECAUSE I REALLY BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ONLY KIND OF FEEDING.

THEY WON'T.

I GUARANTEE YOU ALL, ALL WE NEED IS SOMEBODY TO KIND OF BLOW THE HORN AND SEE IF THE WALL WOULD COME TELL THEM THAT.

NOW YOU MIGHT BE SURPRISED IF WE GIVE THIS A PUBLICITY TO HAVE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO VOLUNTEER, THEY CALL THEIR ALDERMAN, UH, IN ORDER TO GET ON OUR LIST, ONCE THAT MAYBE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT, THEY WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE.

IF WE CAN GIVE IT THE PUBLICITY THAT THEY CALLED THE LORD, ALL OF THEM.

AND THEN WE COULD, WE COULD WORK FROM THAT BY PUTTING IT TOGETHER.

YEAH.

JUST SOLICITING ALL THAT INPUT BECAUSE YOU GOT A LOT OF NEIGHBORHOOD ORGANIZATIONS, SORORITIES, FRATERNITIES, FIELDS, WELL HAS GOT A LOT OF ENERGY AND THEY LOOKING FOR SOMETHING TO DO THOUGH.

I MEAN, AND THEY CAN KIND OF PUT THE SAME MATERIAL ON AND FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT AND SAY, YOU KNOW, IT WAS PART OF THAT.

AND I DID IT AND, UH, I JUST, I JUST KNOW WE CAN DO IT.

AND I'M, AGAIN, THE SAD PART ABOUT IT IS, AND JUST LIKE ANYBODY ELSE CAN GET IT DONE.

IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME, DRIVE DOWN AND GO WHEREVER YOU WANT, IT'S EVERYWHERE, BUT IT AIN'T GONNA BE HERE.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? THE CITY MANAGER? UM, I HAD ONE ITEM, I THINK, UH, MARY, YOU WANT TO, YOU HAVE THE BUDGET AMENDMENTS.

YOU DIDN'T HAVE NO.

OKAY.

THAT'S FINE.

THEN I DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY OTHER COMMENTS, IF NOT, WE'LL DO ITEM 30.

AND THAT SAYS A GERM ALL IN FAVOR, SAY GOOD NIGHT.