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AGAIN, THANK[1. 6:00pm: Welcome and Roll Call]
YOU SO MUCH TO COME INTO THE NEW REDEVELOPMENT ISSUE.YES, MA'AM UH, COMMISSIONER LUBBOCK MAKING THEM MORGAN MENTIONED A TRIP.
MR. WALKER, COMMISSIONER WALLACE MENTIONED HER POEM HERE.
EX-OFFICIO MEMBERS, ALDERMAN VANGO HERE.
ALL OF OUR BEST ALDERMAN PARENTS.
YOU HAVE A FARM AND THE CHAIRMAN.
I SEE I GOT IN PRINCIPLES ARE WOULD YOU LEAD US CLOSER PAST PRESENT FUTURE EQUAL TIME, RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS.
SO, SO, UH, SO MUCH, UH, WELCOME TO, UH, NEW COMMISSION MEMBERS.
UM, THIS LOVELY WAS HERE, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING, UH, AND SHE WAS SWORN IN AT THAT TIME, BUT WE SAY WELCOME TO MR. PARK CAMP AND WE USED TO CALL HIM OTTOMAN BAR HILL FOR SO MANY YEARS, SOMETHING, SOMETHING.
AND SO WE THANK HIM AND WELCOME HIM.
AND SO WE NEED HIM TO BE SWORN IN.
THAT'S WHAT EMAIL TOLD ME TO DO YOU FOLLOW OVER? WELL, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
AND WE'LL, UM, NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR PUBLIC COMMENT AND IT IS LIMITED TO FOUR PERSONS TO FOUR MINUTES FOR SPEAKER.
SO DO WE HAVE ANY FOLKS THAT WISH TO SPEAK TONIGHT? OKAY.
[3. Approval of Minutes]
THE WHOLE AGENDA ITEM THREE, THEN YOU FEEL FOOD FULL OF THE MEALS FOR ORDINARY 23RD, MARCH 5TH.GOOD MALICIOUS METAL TRAP, LIKE A CRASH INTO THE MARCH 5TH MINUTES.
IT LISTED ME AS PRESENT AND I WAS NOT PRESENT FOR THE TOUR.
ANY OTHER CORRECTIONS THAT DARK WE HAVE? SHOULD WE TAKE THEM ONE AT A TIME OR DO AS A BLOCK? IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADD THE CORRECTION, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FEBRUARY 23RD AND IT SAYS SUBMITTED THE MARCH 5TH MINUTES AS AMENDED CORRECTLY AND THE MARCH 9TH MINUTES AS SUBMITTED SECOND.
[4. Redevelopment of 908 Bloomfield Street ]
I TEND TO ADAM FOR IS, UM, A DISCUSSION OR TO SHARE INFORMATION REGARDING, UM, 908, UH, BLOOMFIELD STREET, UM, INITIAL WALKER, STILL SUPPOSED TO BE HERE, BUT HE ENDED UP, UM, HAVING TO GO OUT, GO OUT OF TOWN.AND SO YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, HER, HER NOTES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT OR LEARNED A LOT OF THE DISCUSSION WE HAD TALKED ABOUT, UH, IS IT SOMETHING WE STILL GOING TO DO IS FOLLOWED BY HOW MUCH IT COSTS, WHAT IT INVOLVES AND YOU HAVE INFORMATION IN YOUR PACKET.
HOW MUCH WILL WE HAVE TO DO IS GOING TO BE A HELP SET AND
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HELP THE WELLNESS CENTER, A COMBINATION OF THAT AND A RESOURCE CENTER AND SHORTS, NEIGHBORHOOD, FRIENDS, THE BIPOLARS CALLED FOR RESOURCE CENTERS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.AND THERE'S ALREADY SOME IN THE COMMUNITY ARE PREGNANT.
CHERRIES HAS ONE, THERE'S MORE GARDEN, A GARDEN STREET.
AND ALSO A COUPLE OF CHURCHES HAVE AS WELL RESOURCE CENTERS WHERE YOU CAN PICK UP RESOURCES WHERE YOU CAN PICK UP FOOD.
UM, BUT YOU CAN PICK UP INFORMATION ABOUT GIVING NON-PROFITS IN YOUR COMMUNITY, A FEW THINGS, UM, UH, LIKE, LIKE THAT.
CAUSE WHEN THAT BRAND WAS, WAS BEING DONE IN SPOUT ACCESS AND STILL IS ABOUT ACCESS.
SO, UH, ANYWAY, YOU HAVE WHAT BETH HAD ORIGINALLY SAID, YOU HAVE THAT.
AND THEN I JUST GAVE YOU SOME FURTHER NOTES FROM HER.
AND THEN ALSO DOWN AT THE BOTTOM OF THOSE NOTES, I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH SCOTT HARRISON FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND, UH, THEY HAVE BEING A PARTNER.
THEY, YOU AND SAID INSURANCE NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND THEY'VE BEEN WORKING IN THAT AREA FOR A LONG TIME, UM, DOING, DOING YOUR GREEN CONVENINGS, BUT I ASKED HIM ABOUT THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER THERE IN HAVE NOT HE'S IN THE SHOPPING CENTER THERE.
UM, ONCE IT USED TO BE
SO I JUST ASKED HIM, WHAT DID IT LOOK LIKE? WHAT DID IT COST AND WHAT KIND OF FUNDING DID HE GET? YOU CAN SEE HERE.
UM, WE HAD TALKED WITH HIM SEVERAL TIMES AND MET WITH THEM.
UM, THE DOULA, UM, OF THE WELLNESS GROUP.
UH, THEY MET, I MET WITH HIM, BUT THEY WAS ALSO WORKING.
UH, WE WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR THAT WAS BEFORE OR THEN SO WE, YOU KNOW, WORKED WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND YOU KNOW, THEY KNOW WHAT THEY DO AND, BUT HIS NUMBERS ARE VERY SIMILAR TO SOME THAT, UM, WHEN I TALKED TO GOSHEN THAT THEY HAD, OF COURSE KINGSTON COMMUNITY CLINIC IS LIKE THREE TIMES THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE A FULL CLINIC.
THEY DO EVERYTHING FROM DENTISTS, OB GYN IN EUROPE.
THAT IS A VERY, VERY NICE, UM, HE'LL PUT IT VERY NICE THERE IN KISSING, ON, UH, QUEEN QUEEN STREET AND, YOU KNOW, STAFF WHEEL IN YOUR, A DIFFERENT KIND OF FACILITY.
SO, UM, YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION THAT YOU GOT THAT IN, IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONVERSATION ABOUT, UH, NINE WEEK MOVE YOUR SCREEN.
THERE'S A LOT OF CONVERSATION GOING ON TONIGHT.
THEY'RE GOING TO BE A LOT OF CONVERSATION GOING ON UNTIL THIS COMES TO A DECISION YOU WISHING FOR THE OTHER THAT YOU WISH IT IS.
AND SO, UM, IT'S OPEN BUTTON DISCUSSION, THOUGHTS, PRAYERS, CONSENTS BEHIND.
I WILL CONTINUE TO REITERATE THAT CONCERN, THAT, THAT PEP TALKS ABOUT IT AS WELL IN HER SUMMARY SHEET HERE, WHICH IS WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU BUILD A BUILDING OR REMODEL A BUILDING, YOU DO IT TO A PROGRAM TO A PLAN USE.
AND I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE THERE.
WE HAVE THAT TO WORK WITH AT THE PRESENT TIME.
I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE HAVE COMMITMENTS FROM PROVIDERS WHO MIGHT PROVIDE THE MEDICAL OR CLINICAL ACTIVITIES THAT WE'D LIKE TO HAVE THERE SO THAT THEY COULD HAVE INPUT INTO WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHAT IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE AND SO FORTH.
UH, YOU'VE ALWAYS WORKED THROUGH A PLAN OR A PROGRAM WITH ANY TIME THOSE RE-ESTABLISHING THOSE BUILDINGS OR EVEN NEW BUILDINGS.
IF YOU EVER WORKED WITH AN ARCHITECT, FIRST THING I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO WITH IT? UH, THAT'S WHERE THEY ALL START.
AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET WITH, WITH WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR FOUR BLOOMFIELD STREET.
AND THE OTHER THING THAT CAME TO THIS CAME UP IN READING THE BEST LITTLE SUMMARY HERE AND WHAT YOU ADDED.
UH, KEVIN LEE WAS THE USE OF OTHER BUILDINGS LIKE THE TAP BLOCK.
THEY TOOK A KAINOS FASHION STORE AND REPURPOSED IT.
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BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA THAT MIGHT ALLOW US TO ACQUIRE AND WOULD BE CHEAPER TO RE ESTABLISH? UH, FOR INSTANCE, I, I THINK I'M RIGHT ABOUT THIS, BUT I THINK THERE'S A CHURCH FOR SALE IN THAT GENERAL VICINITY OVER THAT WAY.IS THAT, IS THAT BUILDING IN BETTER SHAPE THAT THAT WOULD REQUIRE LESS CAPITAL INVESTMENT TO PURCHASE SO THAT IF THE COMBINED PURCHASE USE OR WHATEVER, OR ARE THERE OTHER STRUCTURES IN THAT GENERAL AREA OF THE COMMUNITY, THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA THAT WOULD LEND ITSELF TO GOING IN AND GUTTING AND RE-ESTABLISHING WHAT, WHAT A PLAN WOULD LOOK LIKE THAT AREA.
AND I DON'T KNOW, NOT WOULD BE THE FIRST HONEST I TELL YOU, I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
I HAVEN'T SEEN ALL THE BUILDINGS IN THAT AREA.
UM, BUT THERE ARE JUST THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
AND WITH THAT, WITH THE PRICE TAG WE'RE SEEING FOR THE BLOOMFIELD STREET, IT'S KIND OF MAKES ME WONDER IF MAYBE THERE ARE SOME OTHER OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT AND THAT'S, MY THOUGHTS ARE FOR THE SEEDLINGS THAT STARTED WITH, ESPECIALLY WITH, I AGREE.
I THINK, I THINK IF WE WANT TO PEEL IT BACK AND START AT THE VERY BASIS AND THE VERY BASIS IS THAT WE BELIEVE SOME SORT OF SERVICES ARE ESSENTIAL TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, TO THAT COMMUNITY.
OR THAT BEING SAID, THAT LOCATION WAS GIVEN TO US THEIR, THEIR FLAWS.
AND YOU KNOW, WHY NOT TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING OF IT? THAT'S WHAT MARIA AND JOHN WERE REALLY WORKING ON.
JUST LIKE COMPLETE IT TO BRING ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER.
MY ISSUE, MY CONCERN BEING THAT, UM, I THINK THE HEALTH CLINIC WOULD BE GOOD IF IT HAD A PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO GO AND GET THESE SERVICES.
I JUST DON'T KNOW THAT THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WOULD BE THE PARTNER THAT COULD PROVIDE THAT.
UM, BUT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THE HANDICAP ACCESSIBILITY OF THAT HAS, AS IT STANDS NOW, TRYING TO GET IN AND OUT, IT'S GOT SECOND FLOORS, ISN'T REALLY CONDUCIVE, BUT IT, WE OWN THAT PROPERTY.
NOW IT'S IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, IT'S OURS, INSTEAD OF LOOKING ELSEWHERE, WHAT WOULD IT BE TO TAKE DOWN THE HOUSE AND BUILD A STRUCTURE BASED ON WHAT WE NEED THAT WOULD PROVIDE THE SERVICES RIGHT IN THAT VERY PLACE THAT WOULD BE HANDICAPPED, ACCESSIBLE, ONE STORY, UH, WHATEVER THEY DECIDE THE SERVICES ARE.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SEVERAL OPTIONS AND YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND WE DO NEED TO HAVE A PROGRAM IN PLACE, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE PROGRAM HAS GOT TO BE SERVICES FOR THAT COMMUNITY BECAUSE THAT IS THE WALKABLE AREA FOR THAT, FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
UNLESS WE DECIDED TO MAKE IT SOME KIND OF A HOME WHERE PEOPLE COULD RENT OR SOMETHING, I'M JUST REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACCESSIBILITY.
UM, I GUESS BARBARA AND I HAVE WATCHED PORN, MS. SAMSON CLIMBING STAIRS FOR HOW MANY YEARS NOW TRYING TO GET UP TO OUR MEETINGS.
UM, AND I COULDN'T IMAGINE SOMEBODY TRYING TO GET INTO THAT BUILDING TO GET A BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKING YOUR BLOOD PRESSURE WOULD BE STOPPED.
THAT WOULD BE MY CONCERN, BUT WE'VE GOT IT.
WE SHOULD DO SOMETHING WITH IT.
I THINK THAT'S, WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT IS THAT IT BLOCKS THE CONDITION ELIMINATION, FIND A WAY TO MAKE IT USEFUL TO THE COMMUNITY IN SOME WAY, SHAPE OR FORM.
WHAT WAS THE, UM, AMOUNT THAT, UH, MS. WALKER GAINED, UM, HER LAST REPORT OR REHABILITATION OF THAT BUILDING $410,000.
AND THAT WAS THE STATE OF THE ART BUILDING.
AND SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT GETTING, BRINGING THAT BUILDING BACK TO YEAH.
FOR GENERAL USE ACCOMMODATE BASIC FACILITIES, SUCH AS ADMINISTRATIVE SPACES, CLEAN PLACE IN THE MEETING SITE.
THAT'S NOT A FINAL BUILD OUT COSTS.
WE DON'T WANT THAT TO WHAT THE FINAL PRODUCT LOOKS LIKE.
AND THE OTHER THING ABOUT A PROGRAM THAT WE KEEP HARPING ON IS THE MONEY'S GOT TO COME FROM SOMEWHERE AND MEAN, THIS CAN'T GO SAY WE WANT $400,000 TO REVITALIZE HIS BUILDING.
I MEAN, YOU GOT TO HAVE PLAN AND THINK OF WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO DO AND WHY THAT'S IMPORTANT TO GET THAT FUNDING, TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES THAT SABRINA IS TALKING ABOUT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF LATE.
I THINK I'M NOT, I'M NOT AN EXPERT ON GRANTS AND SOLICITING FUNDS, BUT I WOULD CERTAINLY THINK THAT ANYBODY THAT WE'RE STARTING TO GIVE US A THOUSAND DOLLARS WITH LOVE TO SEE A PLAN IN PLACE OF WHAT THE BUILDING WAS GONNA LOOK LIKE, WHO WAS GOING TO PROVIDE THE SERVICES AND HOW IT WAS GOING TO BE SUSTAINABLE.
WELL, I'M PRETTY SURE EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THAT.
$250,000 HAS ALREADY BEEN FROM THE CITY OF NEWBURN.
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OKAY.FROM ARP FUNDS AS $250,000, BUT OH, YOU DIDN'T KNOW THAT.
WE DISCUSSED PUTTING DOWN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'VE PUT THE FINAL ON IT, BUT THAT'S AS THE PART OF THE BUDGET.
SO, YOU KNOW, I NEVER WENT IN THAT BILL.
I'M NOT AN ARCHITECT, AN ENGINEER OR WHATEVER, BUT WHEN I'M IN IT AND DEALING WITH SOME MORE CITY OFFICIALS AND I SEE POTENTIAL FOR THAT BUILDING, I DON'T THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE $400,000 TO GET THAT DEAL UP AND RUNNING.
AND THAT'S JUST MY ASSESSMENT.
LIKE I SAID, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER.
UM, BUT IS THERE A, HAS THERE BEEN A SECOND, HAS THERE BEEN A BIT, I KNOW BETH PRESENTED THAT ONE PROPOSAL, HAS THERE BEEN A SECOND ESTIMATE GIVEN AS HAVE HAD, HAS THAT BEEN PROVIDED TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION? YEAH.
AND THE REALITY IS THAT YOU'RE GETTING AN ARCHITECT'S OPINION OF, OF WORK.
WHEN YOU DEVELOP YOUR SCOPE OF SERVICE WORK AND SEND IT OUT WITH YOUR DETAILS OF WHAT YOU WANT DONE.
COOK COMES BACK 5, 5 50 OR $600,000.
I MEAN, AS WE KNOW, BUT WHAT WE'RE PLANNING FOR THAT BUILDING AIN'T NO, I WISH MR. RICH JONES WAS HERE TONIGHT BECAUSE I KNOW HE HAS BEEN WORKING ON A LOT OR IS CLAIMING FOR HIS PROGRAMMING WITH DR.
I CAN'T THINK OF THE OTHER DOCTORS SAYING, SO, I MEAN, THERE IS GRANT MONEY THAT I, I KNOW THAT THEY WERE SPEAKING OF APPLYING FOR GRANTS AS WELL.
WASN'T A THREE PROBLEMS. IT WASN'T A THREE-PRONG APPROACH.
DID THEY JUST HAVE SOMETHING LAST WEEK AT THE ABUNDANT LIFE? ALL RIGHT.
UM, SO THE, SO WE'RE ALREADY ROLLING WITH THE PROGRAM, UM, AND I'M SORRY, IS THAT PROGRAM WE NEED, WE REALLY NEED TO BRING IT BACK.
AND AGAIN, WE'RE ALL OUT THERE.
HOW DOES IT WORK AS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HERE WITH THE POLICY AND THE VISION, AND THEN GET ALL THESE INDIVIDUAL GROUPS TO PARTNER AND COME WITH US TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES? BECAUSE WE CAN'T DO ALL DO IT, BUT YET YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
AND THAT'S THE RESOURCES THAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS, BUT HOW DO WE GET THEM INTO A PLACE LIKE THIS, OR HOW DO WE WORK TOGETHER TO PROVIDE THE SPACE THAT THEY NEED FOR THAT? RIGHT.
AND THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMMITTEE WAS THE ONE HEAD MET UP FOR THE LAST THREE YEARS.
NO, NONE OF THEM ARE HERE, BUT, UM, I KNOW ONE PIECE HAS BEEN CHECKED OFF THE ABUNDANT LIFE.
SO NOW WE BRING BACK TO THIS AND I MISSED THE FIRST POCKET COMPENSATION, BUT NOW WE BRING IT BACK AT THIS BUILDING, WHICH FOR THREE YEARS, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS AND THEN IT WAS A BAIT AND SWITCH THREE MONTHS AGO.
NOW IT WAS OFF THE TABLE, NOT OKAY.
ALL OF A SUDDEN IT WAS SAID THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO GO WITH THAT PARTICULAR STOCK IS WHAT I, MAYBE I NEED THAT AND A BETTER, BETTER WAY TO SPEND THE MONEY.
THAT'S ALL I DON'T HAVE TO PROVIDE AT THE END OF THE DAY, PROVIDING RESOURCES.
CITIZENS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING RIGHT NOW.
IF IT'S HERE, IF IT'S HERE, IF IT'S HERE, IT'S GOT TO BE ACCESSIBLE AND IT'S GOT TO BE REALISTIC, ACCESSIBLE AND FUNDABLE.
AND, UM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ALL UNDERSTAND IT.
NO, ONE'S TRYING TO PULL BACK FROM ANYTHING.
IF YOU KNOW, THIS IS A GREAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, BUT IT'S GOT TO WORK FOR EVERYBODY, FOR THE CITIZENS, ESPECIALLY.
AND IF WE CAN PUT IT IN THERE AND DO IT AND THEN FIND, THAT'S WHY BARBARA WORKED REALLY HARD WITH THE ARP MONEY AND GETTING THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, YOU KNOW, EARMARKED FOR, FOR THAT, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT IT TO BE US WHERE IN THE COMMUNITY, NO MATTER WHAT IT IS RIGHT NOW, IT'S BOARDED UP.
IT'S SITTING THERE AND IT SHOULD BE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY, NOT A DETRIMENT.
AND THAT'S WHY I JUST BROUGHT THE CONVERSATION UP THAT THE COLLECTIVE SPIRITS AT THIS TABLE SHOULD HAVE IT AT POTENTIAL MINDSET, NOT AT RISK.
AND THEN THE WAY THE DIALOGUES GO WITH, AS FAR AS I JUST GAVE YOU, I JUST CAUGHT IT IN THE MIDDLE.
WHAT IS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW? BUT, UM, THAT IS THE, THAT IS THE, THAT'S BEEN THE PLAN IN THIS WHOLE TIME.
SO YOU SAY, WHEN I'M LOOKING AT THIS BUILDING HERE, AND LIKE I SAID, I WAS HOT POTENTIAL DEAL, AND I'LL LOOK AT THIS BUILDING HERE.
SO WHY CAN'T YOU HAVE YOUR SERVICES ON THE FOREST FLOOR UPSTAIRS? WE ALL ADMINISTRATIVE OFFICE SPACE.
YOU STILL HAVE TO MAKE THE FIRST FOUR HANDED CATHOLICS.
IT IS NOT HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE NOW.
I DON'T SEE WHY THAT CAN'T BE DONE NOW, IF ANYTHING.
AND IT'S NOT GOING TO TAKE $200,000, BUILD A RAMP, AH, HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
IT'S JUST NOT, IT'S NOT GOING TO, I MEAN, THE PRICING IS KIND OF, TO ME, MY OPINION, PERSONAL OPINION, YOU KNOW, WATCH TERMINOLOGIES.
THEY, IT, UM, WHEN WE FIRST WAS STOLEN, IT WAS 225,000.
AN ARCHITECT WENT OUT THERE AND CAME BACK FORTH.
UM, AND I KNOW WE GOT TO MEET SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE.
LIKE YOU SAID, IT WAS A GOLD CHANGE.
ONCE WE BID IT OUT, I'VE BEEN THROUGH THAT PROCESS WITH AS WELL.
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WE CAN GO WALK WITH THOSE PLANS AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE IT.BUT AGAIN, OUR MINDSET HERE SHOULD BE, LET'S DO ALL THAT WE CAN AT POTENTIAL TO MAKE SURE THAT SOCIETY, BECAUSE LIKE YOU SAID, ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE WALKING DISTANCE, THIS RIGHT THERE, RIGHT.
I'M NOT BRITTANY, BUT I'M LEARNING A LOT BECAUSE OF PUBLIC ABILITIES.
BECAUSE AGAIN, WHEN YOU TALK A PUBLIC SPACE, THIS WAS A RESIDENTIAL SPACE AND YOU HAVE TO TURN IT INTO A PUBLIC SPACE.
THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS ENSURE MR. SHELLEY COULD TELL US ABOUT, WE'RE NOT ONLY TALKING A RAMP TO GO IN THE DOOR.
THE BATHROOMS IN THERE ARE NOT HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE.
IF YOU WANT TO HIRE ANYBODY, THE LAW SAYS FOR PUBLIC BUILDING, IT HAS TO BE HANDICAPPED ACCESSIBLE TO YOUR WORKERS AND TO THE PEOPLE THAT USE THE PUBLIC SPACE.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE THE ADDITIONAL COST IS COMING IN.
NOT TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF THIS WAS A RESIDENT OR USED FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, I BELIEVE EVERY BIT OF $200,000 COULD, COULD FIX THIS.
BUT WHEN YOU HAVE TO STEP IN, I MIGHT BE WRONG, BUT THERE'S DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WILL HAVE TO SATISFY FOR A PUBLIC USE VERSUS A RESIDENTIAL USE.
AND THAT BUILT AS A RESIDENTIAL.
AND THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE.
DOESN'T MEAN IT CAN'T BE RETROFITTED DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN'T DO ANY OF THE ABOVE.
I MEAN, WHY, WHY THE DOOR, RIGHT.
AND THAT MAY BE WHERE THE COST, THE ADDITIONAL COST.
I DIDN'T PUT THIS ALL AWAY AND PUTTING LITTLE
I GOT TO GET TO SOME OTHER
AND, UH, THAT'D BE A LITTLE BIT AROUND SINCE I WAS A LITTLE BOY, BUT ANYWAY, UH, I KIND OF GO WITH YOUR IDEA OF YOUR PLAN OR WHAT YOU WANT TO PUT THERE.
AND THE OTHER PART IS YOUR PARTNERSHIP WITH BELL THAT YOU WANTED TO BRING IN.
ONCE YOU GOT A PARTNERSHIP AND KNOW WHO'S COMING INTO THE BUILDING, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT TO DESIGN IN THE BUILDING.
BUT SOME ORGANIZATIONS ARE TO USE CERTAIN THINGS THAT MADE THE ARCHITECT.
YOU JUST SAID, CLEAN IT OUT, PUT THINGS IN WHATEVER.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO THE PLAN ON WHO'S GOING TO BE, YOUR PARTNER IS GOING TO BE QUIET.
IT WILL BE VERY IMPORTANT AS TO HOW WE DESIGN INSIDE OF THE BUILDING.
AND ALL, AND THE SECOND PART IS IF YOU GOT A GOOD PARTNERSHIP AS TO WHETHER THEY COME IN THERE, WHAT PARTNERSHIPS MAY NOT MAY WANT TO HELP CONTRIBUTE TO THE REMODEL OF THE BUILDING? I DON'T KNOW.
THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT, BUT YOU KNOW, THE RIGHT BOX SHIFT CAN MAKE THIS JOB EASY, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, UH, WHAT PARTNERSHIPS YOU'VE TALKED TO.
IT'S JUST MY FIRST MEETING, BUT, UH, I GOT A LOT OF READING INTO BUILDING OFF THE THING.
I KIND OF FEAR BILL MOVER ON THIS SIDE.
WHAT IS IT? THE MISSIONS INVOLVEMENT OR INTERACTION WITH THE GROUP THAT HAS A PLAN RIGHT NOW, MR. JONES AND THE OTHER FOLKS I KNOW MS. JOE AND MR. YOUNG WERE INVOLVED WITH THEM, BUT WHAT IS THE OFFICIAL COMMISSION INVOLVEMENT WITH THAT GROUP RIGHT NOW? WE'RE CURRENTLY, UM, WE HAVE NOT HAD ANYBODY STEP UP FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS GROUP AS OF YET.
SO WE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO TAKE IT ON THIS COMMISSION ITSELF AND LET SOMEBODY ON SO NICE CAN REALLY BE VOLUNTEERS TONIGHT.
UM, BUT THEY DID HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM AND TALK TO, UH, TALK WITH THEM.
BUT, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ALSO, UM, A LOT OF OTHER PARTNERS.
UM, THEY, THEY HAD A CONVERSATION BEING, WE HAD ACCESS TO ALL THE INFORMATION, UM, UH, THAT THEY HAD.
FISHER AND, UM, MANY OF THEM IN, YOU KNOW, THEY ALL SAY THE SAME THING AS FAR AS HEALTH AND HEALTHY WELLNESS PLUS A RESOURCE CENTER, UH, THERE, UM, I I'LL I'LL, I'LL SAY CBS AND I'LL PUT IT LIKE THIS.
AND I TALKED TO, UH, YEAR IS, I MEAN, YOU HAVE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER, LET'S SAY 9 0 8.
YOU'RE THERE AS THE HUB AGAIN, IT'S LIKE AN AWKWARD PERIOD.
THEY, THEY HAD AN OCCUPANCY AND THEN YOU GOT ALL THESE CHEMICALS OUT HERE, YOU GOT BRAIDED UP APPEALED.
UM, I THINK THEY CALL ME THAT NAME UNITED MERCY CENTER, WHICH DOES RESOURCE CENTER.
THEN YOU HAVE PRETTY TERRACE THAT DOES A RESOURCE CENTER.
SO YOU HAVE ALL THOSE THINGS RIGHT HERE, YOU KNOW? AND I MEAN, WE BUILD SHELL BUILDINGS ALL THE TIME FOR PEOPLE TO COME.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE GOING TO COME DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS TO COME, YOU KNOW, THEY GONNA CALL HIM.
I MEAN, SO ARE WE SAYING HERE, YOU I'M HEARING TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
WHAT ARE WE SAYING? ARE WE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT TO GO WITH WHAT IS SAYING OR DO THE SAME.
WE NEED TO DO SOME MORE RESEARCH.
WE SOONER OR LATER TO COME TO A DECISION COMMISSION
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AND WE GOT TO, AND THE REASON WE USE BACKWARD ACTUALLY FOR THE DISCUSSION, SO WE CAN ADD A DISCUSSION AND REALLY DISCUSS IT.SO THAT THE NEXT TIME IT COMES, THERE IS A DECISION TO MOVE, UH, TO MOVE ON TO WUHAN.
UM, I HAVE TALKED WITH, UH, UH, MARGARET, AS WE KNOW, AS THE INTERIM DIRECTOR FOR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UM, PAST THERE ARE GRANTS OUT THERE, BUT WE ALL KNOW YOU NEED A PARTNERSHIP, WHICH WE HAVE THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT PARTNERSHIP.
UM, THE GRANT NEED THAT PARTNER.
SHE DON'T NEED ANY PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WHICH I KNOW THERE'S TWO OR THREE THAT, UH, THAT WE ARE, UM, MEETING WITH.
AND, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS SHE ASKS IS THE SAME THING.
YOU KNOW, WHAT KIND OF, UM, PROGRESSIVE WE'VE BEEN ASKED THAT QUESTION ALL DAY AND YOU WOULD GET AN ANSWER, BUT YOU CAN'T BE A DIFFERENT ANSWER.
IT HAS TO BE, UH, IN ACID FOR THE RESIDENTS OF THAT COMMUNITY, BECAUSE IT'S NOT ABOUT US, IT'S ABOUT THEIR NEEDS.
SO WHAT IS IT? IS IT, IS IT POSSIBLE THAT IF THERE ARE SOME, SOME THINGS HAPPENING RIGHT NOW THAT IS PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT GROUP OR IS THAT UNDER CERTAIN PLACES, THEY CAN REMAIN THERE FOR THE TIME BEING, AND, AND THEN WE JUST KIND OF PUSH PEOPLE TOWARDS THOSE THINGS THAT NEED THOSE SERVICES.
IF IT'S NOT GOING TO CHURCH, YOU KNOW, YOU SAID THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT ALREADY IN PLACE IN DIFFERENT PLACES, SOME YOU HAVE SOME DIFFERENT KINDS OF RESOURCES.
SHE HAD NOT THAT RESOURCE, NOT ON DEAD NAIL OR, BUT HEAL, HEAL COMMUNITY CLINIC.
THAT'S, THAT'S A TOTALLY DIFFERENT PART COMMISSIONER.
UM, WHAT I WAS LOOKING AT FROM THE STANDPOINT IS WE HAVE SOMEBODY THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOWARDS THIS.
AND I DO AGREE THAT, UM, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO EVENTUALLY GET SOME PARTNERS WHO ARE GONNA JOIN IN AND SEE WHO'S GOING TO BE PROVIDERS THERE.
BUT I THINK THE FIRST STEP FOR US TO DO IS JUST GO AHEAD AND SHOW THAT WE'RE DOING SOMETHING MEANING I THINK WE CAN USE PART OF THAT MONEY TO MAKE THE BUILDING STRAIGHTEN UP THE BUILDING.
THEY WANT YOU TO GET IT WHERE YOU CLEAN IT UP AND YOU CAN START MAKING ADJUSTMENTS TO WHERE THE ROOMS ARE AND ALL THAT.
UH, I THINK THAT'S BEFORE IF I WAS A PROVIDER I WOULDN'T COMMIT TO, I WAS LIKE, OKAY, YEAH, YOU GET SOMETHING THAT LOOKS SUITABLE THEN RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET ANYONE TO COMMIT IN THE HUB THAT, THAT, UH, PASTOR ROLE DID.
THAT'S A RESOURCE HUB AND SHE'S NOT PLANNING ON DOING ANYTHING MUCH THERE EXCEPT TELLING PEOPLE THAT ONCE THIS PLACE IS UP AND RUNNING, THEY HANG THERE.
THIS IS A RESOURCE THAT YOU CAN USE.
AND THAT'S, WHAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY GOOD ABOUT THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM.
SO I THINK WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW, IF WE DON'T START MAKING A MOVE USING SOME OF THIS MONEY, THAT'S SHOWING THEM, FIX THE WINDOWS, FIX THE WORLD.
AND THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY, MY THING.
WELL, WE WENT TO LOOK AT THIS BILL AND, UM, IT WAS SAID THAT TOO, I THINK IT WAS DRY PROOF IS BUILDING, YOU KNOW, UM, I THINK IT WAS LIKE $50,000.
THAT'S, YOU KNOW, GETTING THE ROOF AND THE, AND ALL THIS STUFF INTACT.
SO THAT WOULD BE TO ME THAT LIKE, LIKE, UH, MR. WILLIAMS, DAD, THAT WOULD BE THE STARTING POINT IS TO SECURE THE BUILDING.
SO IT WON'T BE GETTING ANY WATER DAMAGE.
I DEFINITELY MISS WHERE I WAS LEADING WITH THAT QUESTION I ASKED IS THIS GROUP THAT HAS BEEN WORKING ON, WE'VE ALSO COMMISSIONED MEMBERS THAT WERE INVOLVED IN THAT, ARE THEY, TO A POINT OF BEING ABLE TO PRESENT OR DOCUMENT SOMETHING THAT SAYS, WE WANT TO DO A, B AND C HERE, BECAUSE IF THEY ARE, THEN WE CAN KIND OF BRIDGE THAT GAP OF, OKAY, NOW WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IN THIS BUILDING.
AND WE CAN START ASKING THE QUESTION OF IS THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE TO RETROFIT THAT, TO FIND ANOTHER LOT NEXT DOOR AND FIGURE OUT A WAY TO BUILD SOMETHING THERE, OR TO KNOCK THAT DOWN AND BUILD SOMETHING FROM SCRATCH.
IT'S NOT GOING TO COST US A HALF MILLION DOLLARS IN INNOVATIONS FOR SOMETHING THAT'LL WORK, BUT IN EXACTLY WHAT WE WANT.
SO IF THAT GROUP IS READY TO PRESENT SOMETHING, AND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO TAKE A STEP FORWARD, ACTUALLY KNOWING WHAT THAT STEP IS GOING TO BE INSTEAD OF SPENDING MONEY THAT MAY WIND UP BEING BAD MONEY, MEDICAL SERVICES, BUT THEY'LL HAVE AN IDEA OF PEACE TALKING ABOUT REGGIE JONES WE'RE WORKING WITH.
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IF THEY WERE TO A POINT OF BEING ABLE TO DOCUMENT, WE WANT A HELP PROVIDER, THAT'S GOING TO HAVE A FUNCTIONING OFFICE TO BE ABLE TO SEE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE.WE NEED A NURSES STATION THAT CAN DO BLOOD PRESSURE CHECKS.
IF THAT GROUP IS TO A POINT OF BEING ABLE TO QUANTIFY WHAT THEY NEED, THEN WE CAN START TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE NEED TO GO ABOUT DOING SOMETHING.
I'M ALL FOR DOING SOMETHING WITH THAT.
BUT IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME TO SPEND $50,000 TO PUT A ROOF.
IF WE FIND OUT SIX MONTHS FROM NOW THAT WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO DO X AND Y AND Z, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO MAKE SENSE TO DO WITH THE SPACE THAT WE HAD THERE.
WELL, MR. JONES, I'VE SPOKEN, I'VE SPOKEN TO HIM A FEW TIMES.
I KNOW THEIR INTENTIONS WERE TO PUT A MEDICAL CENTER.
UM, MY UNDERSTANDING, JUST THE REASON THAT I WENT TO THE ABUNDANT LIFE OPENING WAS TO SEE EXACTLY WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
BECAUSE EVEN BEING ON THE BOARD, I WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT IMPACTED WHAT WE WERE DOING.
HOW ARE WE DOING? YOU KNOW, MR. JONES, YOU KNOW, WE JUST WENT OVER, THERE'S SEVEN OR EIGHT DIFFERENT GROUPS DOING DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND SO PROBABLY PUTTING A PLACE THERE, THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY'RE DOING, OR ARE WE GOING TO BE A CENTRALIZED HUB FOR THAT? UM, BUT I KNOW THAT MR. JONES IS TALKING ABOUT THE MEDICAL PART FOR THAT BUILDING.
SO, UM, AND I KNOW THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY AS FAR AS THE HANDICAP AND EVERYTHING ELSE, AS FAR AS ADMINISTRATION, THAT WAS THEIR VISION.
BUT I KNOW HE DOES HAVE, UM, DOCTORS AND THINGS THAT HE'S, THAT HE COULD PROBABLY DO A PRESENTATION.
HE CAN BRING THEM IN AND HAVE HIM DO A PRESENTATION FOR THAT SO THAT YOU COULD MOVE FORWARD TO IT.
BUT IT DOES MAKE SENSE TO HAVE OPTIONS, YOU KNOW? CAUSE I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING AS FAR AS, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S GONNA, IF YOU CAN BUILD ANOTHER BUILDING IT'S JUST FLAT IN THE SECOND SPOT AND HAVE IT TO WHERE YOU CAN USE IT FOR WHATEVER TO BE DONE INSTEAD OF HAVING IT LIMITED TO JUST ONE THING.
BUT I MEAN, THAT JUST DEPENDS ON THE COST.
AND THEN THEY DID, I'M TRYING TO PUT A HUMAN TOUCH TO THIS.
JUST PUT MY THOUGHTS SHUT DOWN.
SO WE'VE BEEN KNOWN AS WHAT, THREE AND A HALF.
HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO WAIT, HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO TELL THIS IMMUNITY TO WAIT RIGHT NOW? YOU GOT CHILDREN FROM OVER THERE.
THEIR PARENTS SEND THEM TO SCHOOL CAUSE THEY ONLY CARE THEY CAN GET IS THE SCHOOL NURSE.
THEY WAIT FOR THE SCHOOL NURSE TO SAY, OH, IS THAT STILL WOULD HAVE BROKE DOWN? OH, THIS IS BROKEN BECAUSE THEY'RE LIGHT ON MEDIA GAP WHERE THEY CAN GET MEDICARE AND THEY WORK.
THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO GO TO THE NATIONAL LEAGUE NOW WITHOUT KNOWING THAT IT'S BROKEN, HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO TELL THESE, THIS, THIS COMMUNITY TO WAIT, HOW LONG THREE AND A HALF YEARS WE CLEANED UP THE PLACE.
WE DON'T HAVE THE POINT NAME TO TRULY GET DOWN.
LIKE YOU WANT TO GET DOWN WITH THE BUILDING, IT LET'S GET THIS, THIS, FIX HIS HOUSE AND DROP THE GUY.
SO THIS IS THE THREE-PART WAY OF PLAYING THAT WE HAD OVER THREE YEARS.
YOU GOT THE FUNDING, SOME FUNDING.
SO JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WE GOT TO SHOW THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE DOING SOME, HOW LONG ARE WE GOING TO ASK THEM TO WAIT? HOW LONG? AND THAT'S ALL THAT IS LEFT.
MA'AM IF HE'S BACKING RIGHT ON ALL COUNTS, NOT JUST TO HELP HIM.
WELL, WE ALL KNOW THAT I, I PERSONALLY DON'T WELL, I DO YOU'RE RIGHT.
BUT WE HAD A GROUP WORKING ON THAT.
WE DID ON THAT, THAT QUICK, THAT DIDN'T PRODUCE THE EMPHASIS THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR.
IF REMEMBER, WE'RE ALL AFTER SURVEYS, WE SPENT OUR LIFE AT THREE AND A HALF YEARS GETTING SERVICES.
AND THAT HAS NOT, THAT DIDN'T CREATE ANY THINGS NOT TO WORK WITH AS, AS A COMMISSION AS IT.
OH, WHAT I'M HEARING THE CHAIRMAN
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SUGGEST IS THAT THAT THE WHOLE OF THE COMMISSION TAKE ON THIS PROJECT NOW NOT HAVING A LITTLE SUB WORKING GROUP DEAL WITH IT, THAT IT BECOMES AN EMPHASIS FOR THE WHOLE COMMISSION TO, TO WRESTLE WITH DEAL WITH AND WORK ON.AND, AND SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I AM.
I TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE ABOUT SHOW THEM, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING SO ON, ON NUMEROUS, NUMEROUS FRONTS.
AND, UH, BUT I THINK THAT, I THINK THAT WE BRING THIS TO THE WHOLE COMMISSION AND PUT OUR EMPHASIS AND OUR TALENTS TO WORK ON IT, THAT WE CAN MOVE THIS FORWARD A WHOLE LOT FASTER THAN WE HAVE IN THE PAST.
I WAS JUST WONDERING, CAUSE MR. UM, THERE, UH, ACTUALLY COVER SOME OF WHAT I WAS GOING TO ASK, BUT SO, UH, MS. JOE AND MR. YOUNG DIDN'T LEAVE ANY TYPE OF PROGRESS WITH Y'ALL IN TYPE OF INFORMATION.
THAT WAS AT A POINT WHERE Y'ALL COULD TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, OR IS IT HEALTH AND WELLNESS OTHER THAN ONCE YOU SAID SURVEYS, THERE WAS NO OTHER SURVEYS WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE THE SURVEY NEVER GOT OUT ABOUT 30 OR 40 OUT OF THE TWO, TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
UM, WE DO HAVE, UM, HAVE SOME INFORMATION CAUSE I WAS COPIED ON THEM.
UM, SO I DO HAVE THAT AND I CAN PULL IT TOGETHER.
I CAN DO THAT DAY, BUT, AND I WAS BEING ON A LOT OF THE MEETINGS.
IF THE PARTNER'S GOT A FISHER OF THE END, YOU KNOW, IN ALL OF 'EM, YOU KNOW, ALL OF THE OTHER PARTNERS, UM, CAN I MAKE A SUGGESTION THAT AT OUR NEXT MEETING THAT WE WORK HARD TO BRING, BRING DR.
FISHER AND JONES IN TOGETHER TO DO A PRESENTATION OF THE STATUS OF THE WORLD AND WHAT THEIR VISION AND PROGRAM IS.
FISHER HAS BEEN, I KNOW HE HAD BEEN INVOLVED WITH THIS FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARS AND HE'S THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, MAN THAT WOULD FIGHT, SHOULD PLAY A LARGE ROLE IN THAT AS A SERVICE PROVIDER.
WHAT'D YOU THINK YOU NEED SCOTT HARRISON AND HERE AS WELL SINCE HE'S THE HEAD OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND HE WOULD HAVE TO, YEAH, HE'S DONE A PRESENTATION BEFORE, WAY BACK WHEN, BUT HE COULD TELL US WHERE THE FUNDING IS, WHERE WE'D HAVE TO GO TO, OR DO THEY HAVE TO BLESS IT? I'M NOT SURE.
DO THEY HAVE TO DO SOMETHING SPECIAL TO SAY, WE CAN HAVE A DOCTOR HERE.
I MEAN, BECAUSE I REMEMBER HIM TALKING ABOUT WHAT, WHAT THAT FACILITY WOULD HAVE TO BE CALLED.
AND THERE WAS SOME SPECIAL ED DESIGNATION.
IT WOULD HAVE TO BE CALLED TO GET THE FUNDING IT'S USUALLY OR WHATEVER.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE OUR, THE CLINIC AS WELL.
BUT WHEN YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING, SOMEBODY CAN HAVE EVERYTHING IN ONE-STOP SHOP AND THEY MAY WANT TO OPEN UP.
THEY MAY HAVE SOME RESOURCES TO OPEN UP IN ANOTHER LOCATION, EITHER MERCY CLINIC, BECAUSE I KNOW THEY'RE OVERWHELMED AT WHERE THEY'RE AT.
YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THAT'S WHY IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE HAVE BARBERS BECAUSE THAT'S NOT OUR JOB TO OPEN IT AND RUN.
WE WOULD PROVIDE THE SPACE, THE PROPERTY, THE REAL ESTATE, AND THEN THE PARTNERS WOULD, WOULD RUN IT THROUGH THAT AND BRING THE SERVICES TO THE COMMUNITY.
WE WOULD JUST LEND THEM SPACE.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER GOOD PERSON AT THE TABLE.
SO, UM, BACK HERE, UM, IN WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, CONTACT ME, CONNECT WITH THAT KID.
I DON'T HAVE
SO WHAT OTHER STEPS ARE WE GOING TO DO IN THE MEANTIME SO THAT WE CAN GET TO, UM, I FIND A HERE, YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU GET TO SEE IT, YOU GET IT BACK.
START THE PROJECT HE MENTIONED ABOUT GOING ON A STABILIZED DAY MONEY THAT HE'S HAD TO GO AND FIX IT, START MAKING IT LOOK APPEALING.
I DON'T REFER TO IT AS A $250,000, BUT IF THAT HASN'T BEEN APPROVED YET, I GUESS THE NEW BUDGET
WELL, LET ME SAY, SO WE PUT ALL DELIVERED SPEED AS FAR AS INFORMATION GATHERING, BENCHMARKING PARTNERSHIPS IN
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TELL US EXACTLY WHAT PRIORITIES WOULD BE IN SHORING UP AND BUILDING.AND, YOU KNOW, I PERSONALLY WOULDN'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE WITH EXTENDING SOME OF OUR COMMISSION MONEY TO SH TO SHORE UP THE BUILDING.
UH, WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE NEW BUDGET FROM THE SHITTY MADAM CHAIR IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL, I THINK IN THE TOUR THAT THE COMMISSION DID A FEW WEEKS AGO, ONE OF THE OBSERVATIONS THAT WAS NOTED WAS, UM, THE LOCKS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF THE BLOOMINGDALE HOUSE.
ONE OF THEM IS CITY COUNTY OWNS THE LARGER LOT, WHERE CARS WERE PARKED IS NOT OWNED BY THE GOVERNMENT OR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO PARKING MAY BE SOMETHING THAT YOU'D WANT TO CONSIDER ANY, ANY PUBLIC USE IS GOING TO REQUIRE PARKING, UM, SEMITE PARKING, MAYBE APPLICABLE ONSITE PARKING OR SOME TYPE OF COMBINATION OF THE TWO.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THIS COMMISSION TO INSTRUCT STAFF TO BEGIN ANY TYPE OF PARKING ANALYSIS OR TO CONTACT THE OWNERS OF LOTS IN AND AROUND THAT BUILDING THAT MIGHT BE WILLING TO, UM, CONVEY PROPERTY FOR, FOR PARKING PURPOSES OR ANY ADDITIONAL SATELLITE PURPOSES FOR JUMPING IN.
UH, MR. JONES, ALWAYS WHENEVER WE KNOW THAT ALREADY, RIGHT? BEGA.
AND HE SAID THAT HUMAN, WE LOSE, I WANT TO SELL IT AND JUST GIVE IT TO THE CITY.
SO IT'S THAT OTHER ONE THAT'S IN THE FRONT THERE.
I DON'T BELIEVE FRONT OF THAT.
AND I'M NOT CERTAIN IF MR. JONES HIMSELF OWNS THAT LOT OR SOMEWHERE THAT HE ACQUAINTED WITH.
MY RECOLLECTION IS THAT THE BUILDING OUT OF THE MUD A LOT OUT OF THE BACK IS SOMEONE THAT HAS CONVEYED TO HIM TO CONVEY TO US.
YES, ESR IS NOT, NOT THE PROPERTY, BUT THE STATEMENT, THE SENTIMENT THAT THEY WOULD BE WILLING TO CONSIDER, ALLOWING IT TO BE AVAILABLE TO US FOR THAT USE.
NOW, AGAIN, THAT COMES WITH A CAVEAT OF, UH, IT'S A PROMISE OR ANGRY OFFER IN NURSING.
THEY ARE THOSE TWO LOTS RIGHT THERE THAT YOU GUYS OWN THAT THIS IS OWNED BY THE CITY.
THAT'S ONLY THAT 20 FEET OFF OF THE FIRST 20 FEET, THEN THE REST OF THE PARKING LOT.
SO WE ONLY HAVE TWO PARENTS IN THE PARKING LOT.
THIS WAS THE ONE YOU GUYS WERE TALKING ABOUT.
ROBERT CARTER, SHE GETS CORRECT.
AND THEN THIS, THIS HOUSE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAKES ANY DIFFERENCE TO YOU.
GASKINS AIRS OUT OF WASHINGTON, DC, BUT THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WOULD BE THOSE LOTS IN THAT GRAPPLING AT THE VERY LEAST, SINCE WE OWN THE ONE ON THE CORNER, YOU WANT TO SECURE THE ONE NEXT TO IT.
WHAT ARE THE VACANT LOTS ACROSS THE STREET ACROSS KIND OF KATIE FOREIGNER RED CROSS THE STREET RIGHT HERE.
SO YOU DIDN'T HAVE PLANS FOR THAT MISS PARTYING.
UH, BUT HE MIGHT SAY THAT A YEAR AGO, HE MENTIONED THAT A YEAR AGO, BUT TO SEE WHERE WE ARE NOW, JUST BRING THIS TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION BECAUSE GIVEN THE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THE USE OF THE BUILDING THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, THERE ARE GOING TO BE SOME MANDATORY PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND IT MAY BE THAT SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WOULD NEED TO BE, HAD TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST PROPOSE A PLAN TO ACCOMMODATE THE PARKING.
AND THAT MAY BE SOME ADDITIONAL STEPS THAT CAN HAPPEN.
I'M NOT, MAYBE I'M NOT MAYBE MY MEMORY'S GOING, BUT MR. WILLIAMS DID, MR. CARTER SAID IT, THE LOCK ON THERE, THE SIDE OF THAT PROPERTY THAT HE WOULD GIVE TO, WAS IT YOU EVEN SOUND, HE WAS SAYING THAT THAT WAS THE GENTLEMAN IN THE WHEELCHAIR.
YEAH, I THINK HE WAS SAYING THAT HE WOULD, BUT YEAH, MINE WAS STANDING.
HE WAS GIVING IT THE RAGE AND REGGIE WOULD GIVE IT TO US, SO, OKAY.
I KNOW HE SAID HE WAS GOING TO GIVE THAT LOCK.
THERE'S TWO, JASON'S LOCKED BACK THERE BEHIND I CAN'T SEE IT OR THEY JUST LOTS
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I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD OF THE STATUS, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DIRECTORS FROM TONIGHT'S MEETING ARE AS FOLLOWS, UM, STAFF HAS THE DIRECTION TO INVITE DR.
FISHER AND MR. HAROLDSON TO THE MAIN MEETING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO DRUMS AND MR. JONES TO DISCUSS THE STATUS OF ANY PLANNING THAT HAS BEEN UNDERWAY AS IT RELATES TO POSSIBLE PROGRAMMING AT THE 9 0 8 BLOOMFIELD SITE.
UM, AND TO ALSO INVITE MERCY CLINIC TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT DIALOGUE OR TO CONVEY INFORMATION IN SOME WAY ABOUT THEIR WILLINGNESS TO PARTNER AND WHAT, IF ANY PROGRAMS THEY MIGHT BE WILLING TO DO OR SOURCES OF FUNDS THAT THEY MIGHT HAVE ACCESS TO.
UM, BUT I HAVE PERMISSION IF MR. TRIPPER JORDAN, UM, TO, UM, CONDUCT THESE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PARTIES THAT WAS JUST MENTIONED OKAY.
TO PREPARE FOR THE PRESENTATION FOR THE NEXT.
WE HAD ONE DAY SOMETHING WE NEED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION, SO THEN WE CAN, WE CAN, UH, WE CAN BE GOOD.
[5. Executive Director’s Update]
UM, I DID, THE ITEM IS ACTUALLY JUST A JUSTICE UPDATE AND EVERYBODY SHOULD'VE GOTTEN AN EMAIL NOW.AND LET US TALK ABOUT IT, UM, ABOUT, UM, WORKING WITH, OR HAVING AN INTERVIEW OR A CONVERSATION WITH ME, UM, CONSULTANTS IS GOING TO BE HELPING WITH THE HIRING OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE GOTTEN THAT INFORMATION TO ADD ANYTHING UP TO CHIEF.
UH, YEAH, BASICALLY WE'VE, WE'VE SPOKEN TO THE DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.
I BELIEVE WHAT IT'S CALLED AND WE ARE HAVING A PERSON WHO'S GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR IS ACTUALLY GETTING IN TOUCH WITH, UH, SOME OF THE ALDERMAN AND ALL THE WOMEN WHO ARE AT WALDO LONG BEFORE.
UH, BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO IS, IS GATHERING INFORMATION AS TO WHAT TYPE OF PERSON WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
NOT BELIEVE YOU ALSO WERE CHAIR, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO ELSE ON THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS NOTIFIED.
AND THEY WERE JUST GOING TO GATHER A LOT OF INFORMATION FIRST TO SEE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
AND I THINK WHAT THEY SAID, EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED.
I'M GOING TO SAY BY JUNE, JULY IS WHEN THEY EXPECT TO HAVE SOMEONE THE END OF JUNE, JULY TIMEFRAME.
IF THEY DIDN'T HAVE SOMEONE, HOPEFULLY HAVE SOMEONE IN PLACE, SOUNDS LIKE A PLAN TO ME.
THAT'S THE THIRD PAGE IS EXTREMELY INSIGHTFUL.
I'VE TAUGHT WITH HIM AT LINK TODAY.
UM, BUT, UH, HE'S EXTREMELY THOROUGH, UM, IN HIS PRESENTATION AND THEN HE STOPS AND HE DOESN'T TALK TOO MUCH MORE.
HE ASKS YOU SIX QUESTIONS AND THEY'RE VERY, VERY DEEP QUESTIONS.
UM, SO JUST BE PREPARED TO GIVE YOUR OPINION BECAUSE HE IS DEFINITELY GONNA PULL IT OUT REGARDLESS OF WHAT A GREAT OR WHAT WE SEE AS THE MOST DESIRED CANDIDATE, ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? ALL RIGHT.
[6. Dr. Caldwell update ]
ON TO ITEM SIX AND HE DROPPED THE CALL FOR US.[00:50:10]
SO WE'VE TALKED TO, UM, BOTH HIM AND ANOTHER THREE ON HIS TEAM THAT WE'VE TALKED TO.UM, WE'VE TALKED TO, UM, ABOUT WHERE HE'S AT.
AND HE HAD SAID THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE SENDING US, UH, DOCUMENTS THAT ARE THE PRODUCTS OF THE SERVICES YOU'VE DONE SO FAR.
UM, I'VE NOT YET RECEIVED THOSE.
SO, UH, THEN HE, UH, SUGGESTED THAT, UM, HE WOULD NEED TO KNOW MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ACTUAL SITE.
WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ONE SIDE ON, UH, FIRST, UH, THE ONE THAT CURRENTLY HAS A TRAILER AND THEN THE OTHER HOUSE.
UM, AND, UM, THEY WERE NOT QUITE SURE ABOUT THE, UM, UH, THE DIMENSIONS OF THE SITE AND THEY WERE ASKING FOR SURVEYS AND SUCH, BUT INSTEAD WE, WE ACTUALLY PROVIDED THEM.
THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO HAVE TO HIRE SURVEYORS AND THINGS TO DO THE CONCEPTUAL DRAWINGS.
I SUGGEST THAT WE CAN SEND THEM THE, UH, AND I DID SEND THEM THE GIS MAPS, WHICH ACTUALLY HAVE DIMENSIONS ON THEM.
UH, SO RIGHT WITH THEM THAT I PROVIDED THEM THE FLOODPLAIN MAPS AS WELL, BECAUSE, UH, ACTUALLY THE VERY BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER OR THE SOUTHEAST CORNER, UH, DOES HAVE SOME FLOOD PLAIN ON IT, UM, KIND OF AT THE INTERSECTION, UH, BUT NONE OF THE REST DOES.
UH, AND THEN WE ALSO, UM, UM, LET'S SEE RIGHT AT THEM.
OH, THEN THERE'S, UH, SOME TOPOGRAPHY THAT'S ALSO AVAILABLE ON GIS.
UH, WE'RE NOT SURE HOW ACCURATE THAT IS.
UM, BUT SO WITH SOME CAVEATS WITH THAT, THEN BEGAN TO EXPLAIN WHY THE, UH, FLOOD PLAIN IS WHERE IT IS, UM, UH, ANY, AND SO HE IS SUPPOSED TO GET BACK TO US.
UM, AT SOME POINT I FORGET WHAT THAT ACTUAL DATE IS.
I'M SORRY, MY NOTES MUST BE IN THE OTHER ROOM.
UM, AND, UH, BUT WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANYTHING FOR APPEALS AS CORRECT.
SO, UM, COMMISSIONER, UM, WHEN WE TALKED TO HIM, I THINK THREE OR FOUR OTHERS IN YOUR ROOM, UM, HE SAID RECENTLY THAT HE HAD NOT, UH, PROVIDED, I'M NOT SURE HE WAS COMPENSATION FROM GRE OR WHATEVER, BUT HE SAID THAT HE HAD NOT PROVIDED THAT, UM, BECAUSE HE DID NOT RECEIVE SOME DOCUMENTS, HE PROVIDED THOSE DOCUMENTS TO HER, BUT HE DIDN'T SAY THAT HE HAD SOME POWERPOINT SLIDES IN CASE THAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE.
AND AS OF YET, HE HAS NOT PROVIDED, OR THOSE STATES WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THIS CONTRACT AND WE NEED TO GET TO, UM, OR IN IMPORTANT SO THAT WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT LEVEL, UH, THE NEXT SPACE IN, IN THIS, UH, PROJECT, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE, UM, MORE PATIENT THAN MOST WOULD HAVE BEEN, BUT WE NEED TO GET TO THAT POINT.
AND SO, UM, I WILL SAY THAT, UM, IF YOU WANT TO REACH OUT TO HIM, I THINK HE WAS THERE FOR JUST A MINUTE.
IF HE WOULD REACH OUT TO BE ABLE TO CALL HIM AND ASK HIM WHERE THOSE DOCUMENTS OR R AND B, AND WE WERE THINKING JUST, I'LL JUST FIND OUT WHERE THOSE, THE ONES THAT HE SAID THAT HE WAS GOING ON SEEING.
SO WE CAN AT LEAST SEE BECAUSE ACTUALLY WHAT HE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE IS MET IN THERE.
HE MET IN THE COMMUNITY, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE SOME OF THOSE STAFF DON'T HARMONIZATION WHAT THE COMMUNITY YOU'RE AT THAT POINT, THOSE THINGS, BECAUSE WE NEED TO, WE, WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT WE NEED TO MOVE ON.
UM, AND WE STARTING TO, THEY ALREADY HAD ONE REHAB NEAR WHITE SCREEN, THEY WERE DOING SO, UM, LIKE I SAID, WE NEED TO BRING IT TO A CONCLUSION OR DO SOMETHING, SOMETHING ELSE, BUT JUST WANTED TO UPDATE Y'ALL CAUSE WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME DECISIONS REGARDING THAT.
UM, I SPOKE TO HIM AND STATED THAT IT WAS OKAY FOR ME TO EXPRESS THAT HE'S BEEN BATTLING COVID.
UM, AND HE'S GOING TO FOLLOW UP WITH HIS STAFF AND TO WORK DOCUMENTS ARE, BUT IT IS DONE.
IT WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, I'M ALSO GOING TO ADD THAT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE MY NOTES WITH ME.
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IF I FIND SOME OTHER MORE RELEVANT INFORMATION, I WILL PASS IT ON TO ALL OF YOU WITH, OKAY.I WAS SEVEN DIGIT PLANNING, ESPECIALLY WE WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE IT IN FEBRUARY AND I THINK THE WEATHER OR SOMETHING STILL, THEN WE HAD THE BUS TOO.
IS THAT STILL SOMETHING WE WANT TO DO AT THIS JUNCTURE? IS IT IMPORTANT FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND, UM, AND, AND DO YOU NEED TO GO AHEAD AND SCHEDULE IT ON A SATURDAY OR, UM, COME EARLY OR LATER TO A B EARLIER OR LATER?
[7. Strategic Planning Discussion ]
I DON'T RECALL FOR, UM, TONIGHT.UM, WELL, I'VE BEEN CONTACTED BY, UM, FOR PERSONS ABOUT PURCHASING, UM, SOME COUNTY CITY OWNED PROPERTY, UM, AND THEN TOLD HIM TO GIVE ME A CALL WITH REDEVELOPMENT, UM, AREA.
AND SO THEY WILL BE ASKING FOR OUR RECOMMENDATION TO UPSET.
UH, SO I WILL INVITE THEM, UM, TO THE NEXT MEETING FOR US TO HEAR FROM, UH, TO HEAR FROM, FROM HERE.
UH, LET ME SAY IT FROM THE HOUSING WORKING GROUP, IT'S NOT PROPERTIES THAT WE, WE, UH, WE WILL RPA TO DO IN, IN SOMEWHERE MAY BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ELSE, BUT NOT IN, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'VE HEARD QUINN.
SO I WOULD JUST INVITE THEM TO THE MEETING THAT HAS BEEN, OUR PROTOCOL IS INVITING STUDENTS TO THE MEETING.
AND, UM, SO IF SOMEBODY ELSE, BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THERE'S A LOT OF TRANSACTIONS AND THINGS IN THE BACKLOG, SO IT CAN BE SAD IF SOMEBODY, IF SOMEBODY CALLS ABOUT THAT AND WE JUST TELL THEM WHAT I PROTOCOL WITH HIM TO COOK, THEY HAVE TO ASK TO BE ON THE AGENDA.
AND, UM, HE WAS THE ADDRESS OF THE PROPERTY.
AND YOU COULD JUST TAKE IT FROM THERE AND WE WILL HAVE TO FOR THAT.
IS THAT OKAY WITH THE COMMISSION SINCE I PROTOCOL THAT, OKAY.
TH THIS, THIS TOPIC BRINGS UP ANOTHER ISSUE THAT BOTH OF THESE PROPERTIES ARE JOINT CITY COUNTY AND, AND YOU HAVE A BATHROOM IN FRONT OF YOU HERE THAT GET OUT ALICE.
THEN THE OTHER THING, 8, 8, 10 IS, IS ACTUALLY A BUILDING.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT 8 0 3 PURCHASING 8 0 3 ON IT, ACROSS THE STREET.
BUT EIGHT, 10 IS A LITTLE CHURCH THERE, BUT REGARDLESS THE COUNTY PROPERTIES LET'S GET INTO THAT.
WHERE ARE WE IN THAT PROCESS? THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO MONTHS.
I ASSUME TODD, HE TALKS TO THE JACK K-12 PROPERTIES, THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED BY SYDNEY AND CARRY.
WE HAVE NOT TOUCHED BASIS WITH HIM TO MY KNOWLEDGE SINCE THE LAST TIME THAT WE ORIGINALLY AGREED ON THE 10 AND BEING YOU ALL GAVE US 12.
AND I'M NOT SURE IF BOSTON'S HAD IN CONVERSATION WITH JACKSON.
I MEAN, FOR INSTANCE, IF, IF, IF THE COUNTY COULD GET THIS SETTLED WITH THE CITY, THESE TWO TRACKS OF LAND WE COULD SELL, BECAUSE THEY WOULD BE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WE COULD SELL THEM.
WE WOULD GET THE INCOME FROM THEM AND WE COULD PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THEM.
I MEAN, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE ALL IN THE FLOOD, PLAIN AND THEY'RE UNDESIRABLE
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FOR ANYTHING WE USED FOR DEVELOPING AND BENEFITING THE COMMUNITY, THE BENEFIT TO THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE TO SELL THEM, GET THE INCOME AND PUT IT TOWARDS OTHER PROJECTS THAT WE'RE DOING THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY.SO IT'S THIS REALLY A CRITICAL THING IN OUR, IN OUR LONG TERM PLAN, WE LOOKED AT INCOME FROM SELLING PROPERTIES AND EVERY THING THAT'S COME UP BEFORE US IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS HAVE BEEN JOINED.
THEY OWN PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE GOTTEN NOTHING OUT OF.
WELL, ALL WE DO IS SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO USE THEM, LET THE ALDERMAN INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS ON IT.
I CAN GET WITH MY COLLEAGUES AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THE ONES THAT HAVE SOLD IN ANY THING THAT THE CITY GOT ASKED THEM TO REMIT THAT TO.
WELL, BUT IT'S JUST A BIGGER, BIGGER, BIGGER PICTURE ITEM.
MAYBE WE'LL GET THAT CLOSED OUT.
IS THERE ANY OF THIS IS BEFORE THAT NEEDS TO COME BEFORE I WANT ALEX BROUGHT UP A GOOD POINT BEFORE THE MEETING ABOUT THE WORK THAT AT THE NC STATE SCHOOL DESIGNED IS GOOD.
AND AGAIN, WE HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S HAPPENING.
HE KNOWS THERE'S SOMETHING GOING ON.
THEY HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM WITH CONGRESS.
UM, UH, THEY HAD AN INTERIM REVIEW, UH, SO, UH, FOUR OR FIVE HOURS, UH, GOING THROUGH THE 10 OR 12 STUDENTS INDIVIDUAL PROJECTS.
UH, AND, UH, THEY, UM, THE, THE THEY'VE ACTUALLY PROGRESSED QUITE, QUITE FAR.
THEY ALL, UH, PRESENTED, UH, VARIOUS KINDS OF PROJECTS.
SOME WERE INDIVIDUAL HOMES, SOME WERE, UM, COMBINATIONS OF, OF HOMES OR EVEN APARTMENT BUILDINGS OR CONDOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, UH, SO, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY VERY INTERESTING IDEAS AND CONCEPTS, UH, FOR ALL OF THESE, UM, UH, NOT JUST, UH, IN TERMS OF THEIR APPEARANCE, BUT ALSO, UM, UH, SOME OF THEM WERE VERY ATTUNED TO HOW THERE WAS THE CONNECTION THAT THE, UH, HOMES WOULD HAVE TO THE COMMUNITY.
UM, UH, I CAN THINK OF ONE WHERE THERE IS A PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO CREATING AN OPEN SPACE USING THE BUILDINGS TO CREATE AN OPEN SPACE THAT WAS PRIMARILY FOR THE, UM, FOR THE RESIDENTS THERE, BUT IT WAS OPEN TO THE STREET.
AND SO THAT, UH, SEEMED LIKE IT COULD BE A PLACE WHERE, YOU KNOW, NEIGHBORS COULD COME AND SIT OUTSIDE OR BE OUTSIDE OR GARDENING OR THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT THE ONE BIG THING THAT, UM, CAME UP WAS, UH, THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE ALL OF THEIR DESIGNS, UM, IS THAT, UH, THEY ALL FOUGHT, BUT THEY HAD TO BUILD THE, UM, FIRST FLOOR AT 11 FEET ABOVE GROUND RATHER THAN 11 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
SO, SO THEY ALL ARE ON STILTS.
SO, UM, SOME OF THEM MAY KEEP THE STILTS BECAUSE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD OVER MORE, YOU KNOW, HIGHER THAN, UH, 11 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL, UM, COST MORE.
BUT SO MOST PEOPLE DON'T DO THAT BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TO.
UM, AND THE 11 FEET IS ALREADY TWO FEET ABOVE THE, UM, FLOOD LEVEL.
UM, SO, BUT, UM, SOME OF THEM HAVE CHANGED IT TOO BECAUSE THEY REALIZE THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
SO, UM, SO WE'LL SAY THAT, THAT WAS JUST THE INTERIM REVIEW.
SO THEY HAVE ANOTHER REVIEW COMING UP IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UH, AND THEN A FINAL WORD VIEW A WEEK OR TWO AFTER THAT.
OH, WHEN THEY DO THE CONFERENCE CALL WITH YOU AND A PAIR OF GOLD, YOU WELCOME ANYONE ELSE, IT'S BASICALLY A ZOOM.
SO IT COULD BE ANY NUMBER OF PEOPLE.
HOW ABOUT YOU MISCARRY ROUTE THERE? YEAH.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER BUSINESS? YES.
SO, UH, THE NEXT STEP IS OF COURSE TO BUILD A FOUNDATION.
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SO THE HOUSE, CAN WE SAT DOWN ON IT? UH, SO, BUT, UM, THEN THE VERY NEXT STEP IS TO HIRE CONTRACTOR TO DO THE REMODELING.SO THE, UM, UH, B AT THIS POINT, THE, UH, IN ORDER TO HIRE SOMEONE TO DO THE FOUNDATION, YOU HAVE TO PUT OUT THE BIDS, TAKE THE LOWEST BIDDER.
I HAD TO GET AT LEAST THREE BIDS AND THEN THE SAME THING WITH THE CONTRACTOR.
SO WE DECIDED WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS DO IT ALL TOGETHER AS ONE.
YOU'RE REMODELING THE HOUSE TO THE FOUNDATION TOO.
SO BECAUSE, UH, THEY'LL HAVE SUBCONTRACTORS ANYWAY, AND THAT WOULD BE A SUBCONTRACTOR TO THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
AND THAT WAY ALSO, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT, UH, THE CONTRACTOR PUT THE FOUNDATION GUY IN A FIRM.
SO, SO THAT'S THE, SO WE NEED TO PUT TOGETHER A BID PACKAGE.
SO THE BID PACKAGE, UM, UH, WE WOULD FIRST ASK MS. WALKER IF SHE WANTS TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK, UH, WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT.
UM, BUT WE HAVEN'T NECESSARILY GOTTEN AN ANSWER ON THAT.
UM, NOW, AS WE ALL KNOW, SHE'S VOLUNTEERED TO DO ALL OF HER WORK SO FAR, SO WE DON'T EXPECT HER TO DO THAT.
SO I, UM, CHECK TO SEE IF, UM, CDBG FUNDS COULD BE USED FOR THAT.
AND APPARENTLY YES, WE CAN, UH, TRY AND GET OUR CDBG, UM, UM, UH, CONSULTANTS, WHICH IS URBAN DUBAI DESIGN VENTURES.
UH, IF THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
AND APPARENTLY THEY, UH, WOULD BE ALLOWED TO DO IT.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY CAN DO IT.
UM, SO THAT'S ONE OPTION IS THAT IF WE NEED THE BID DOCUMENTS DONE, UH, FROM SOMEONE OTHER THAN MS. WALKER, THEN WE CAN, UH, PROBABLY WE CAN HAVE THAT, HAVE THEM EITHER DO IT, OR HIRE A SUB CONSULTANT TO DO IT AND CHARGE IT ALL THROUGH CDBG.
WOULD YOU MIND MADAM CHAIR, EXCUSE ME, FOR MAKING THIS COMMENT, JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
IF WE COULD MAYBE SHOW THE PARCEL BACKGROUNDS, COMMISSIONER HAD FULL CONTEXT OF THE CONVERSATION.
SO YOU BANKS THIS ONE RIGHT HERE, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
AND SO WE'RE TALKING, SO, UM, OFTEN CASE STREET, SO AT THE END OF LIGHTS THERE.
AND SO WE'RE TALKING THIS SLOT RIGHT HERE.
SO THE LOT WHERE YOU SEE THE CAR, THEY WERE, ARE SUFFERING IN A PARCEL THAT WAS GIVEN TO REVOKE THE COMMISSION BY THE CITY.
AND THERE WAS A HOUSE, A BRICK RANCH STYLE HOME THAT WAS LOCATED, UM, ON A PARCEL AT THE CORNER OF THIRD AVENUE IN BROAD STREET FOR THE NEW SAND.
WE LOCATED THE CITY GIFTED THAT FREQUENT HOUSE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS RELOCATED THAT HOUSE TO THE POLICIES THAT YOU SEE OUTLINED IN BLUE.
IF YOU DRIVE BY, YOU WILL SEE VERY SIGNIFICANT STRUCTURE STANDING IN THE SCHOOL.
UM, THIS ON STILL, IT'S NOT YET ON THE FOUNDATION.
UM, SPECIAL, THANKS TO MR. WILLIAMS AND THE PUBLIC WORK STAFF WHO WERE ABLE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT WAS SECURED.
UM, MR. ROBIN MORGAN, WHO A COMMISSIONER WHO WAS UNABLE TO BE HERE TONIGHT LIVES AROUND THE CORNER OF HIS PROPERTY, HAS BEEN KEEPING A VERY WATCHFUL EYE AND COMMUNICATED WITH MR. WILLIAMS ABOUT ANY GOINGS ON THAT.
ISN'T SAD AS I'M NOT CERTAIN, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING WRONG WITH THE HOUSES, BE LOCATED TO THE UBANK STREET, UM, PARCEL.
UM, BUT THIS HAS BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS.
SO THAT'S THE CURRENT STATUS AND WE DON'T WANT TO LOSE MOMENTUM BECAUSE THAT WAS ACTUALLY A WIN FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IN REGARDLESS OF THE COMMUNITY I WAS AT IT.
UM, AND THEY WERE HAPPY THAT SOMEONE WAS DOING SOMETHING ABOUT IT.
AND THEN WE HAD THE LISTENING, UM, MEETING, UH, FOR THE SOME TYPE OF GRANTS THAT WE, THERE IS, THE COMMUNITY WAS INVITED IN TO SAY WHAT WE SHOULD BE DOING WITH THAT MONEY.
IT HAPPENED, PEOPLE WAS HERE TO TALK ABOUT THE HOUSE AND THEN, UM,
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IT WAS, IT WAS CRAZY TO THAT DAY.UM, AND THEN THEY ACTUALLY SAID WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY BECAUSE THEY BOARDED IT UP AND TOOK CARE OF IT.
WE ENDED UP ON THIS COMMISSION, SO WE WANT TO KEEP THAT OPEN.
AND I THINK MR. CARNAHAN THAT THE COMMISSION'S INTENT AND TENANT USE FOR THAT HOUSE IS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO, UM, HOUSING IN A TEMPORARY MANNER, WHETHER THEY ARE TRANSITIONING INTO A NEW HOME OR ARE TEMPORARILY DISPLACED BECAUSE OF RENOVATIONS AND CONSTRUCTION AND THEIR CURRENT HOME, THEY WILL HAVE SOMEWHERE SAFE AND SUITABLE TO LIVE UNTIL THEY TRANSITIONED TO A MORE PERMANENT RESIDENCE.
SO, SO QUICK QUESTION ON THE ROAD, BUT I DON'T WANT TO READ, IS IT THE COMMISSION? ARE WE IN THIS COMMISSION, RENTING PROPERTIES? ARE WE MANAGING PROPERTIES? UM, HELP ME OUT HERE THEN.
WE'RE NOT, NO, NO, WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THAT BUSINESS IF YOU DO READ THE BELT, BUT NO, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT I'M GOING TO GAIN.
NO, I WAS WITH, I MEAN, TIME TO SHOW UP AND I WOULD JUST TAKE HIM AND JEFF, I WAS JUST THINKING AS REDEVELOPMENT GROUP AND I SAID, I GOT A LOT OF READING TO DO.
I WAS THINKING WE WOULD BE THE REDEVELOPMENT GROUP.
WE'LL BE THE GROUP TO LEAD AND THEN DIRECT ON THAT, DO THE JOB TO DO THE JOB AND NOT US BE SET BY USER PURCHASES AND RENTERS AND BUILDERS.
I JUST THOUGHT WE, I THOUGHT WE'D HAVE A GROUP MEET UP.
I LET THEM READ AND THEN DISCUSS IT LATER.
SAY AN ORIENTATION SESSION OF SORTS.
YES, WE DO THAT OVER THE HPC FOR EACH TEAM MEMBER.
IT'S GOOD BUSINESS FOR THE COMMISSION.
MORE THINGS TO PLANT A SEED SINCE IT'S KIND OF TAKEN SOME STEPS TAKEN ON THINGS.
THE FIRST AVENUE PROPERTIES WE'VE, THEY'VE BEEN SHORED UP ACCORDINGLY.
UH, THE MOBILE HOME IS ON LEAVE SECURE COMPLETELY.
AND THEN THE DUPLEX STRUCTURE HAS BEEN BOARDED UP.
WOULD IT BE WISE FOR US TO GO AHEAD AND HAVE CITY STAFF START THE PROCESS OF DOING SOME DEMO, WORK ON THOSE, OR AT LEAST GETTING THAT TRAILER OUT OF THE EQUATION? BECAUSE I MEAN, IF YOU WANT TO GET A WIND, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME WINS.
SOME, SOME SERIES APPRECIATION THAT DAY THAT MOBILE HOME COMES OUT OF THERE.
UM, I MEAN THE ROOF LOOKS LIKE IT HAS BEEN DOING IT ALL NOW, BUT WHETHER IT DID OR SOMEONE DECIDED NELSON'S CURRENT MEDICINES THAT WAS AVAILABLE.
SO YOU MAY BE ABLE TO CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG.
THAT THERE'S BEEN A PRELIMINARY ESTIMATE DONE FOR DEMOLITION COSTS FOR THE MOBILE HOME MS. SPEAKING A WEEK.
UM, SO YES, THE MOST SPEED BECAUSE YES, PATRICK AND THE REST HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THAT.
I THINK THERE HAS BEEN SOME PRELIMINARY DEMOLITION ESTIMATES DONE.
UM, IF YOU'D LIKE, WE CAN CERTAINLY, I THINK YOU CAN DIRECT STAFF TO BRING THOSE ESTIMATES TO THE COMMISSION.
AND IF YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH DEMOLITION AT THOSE COSTS, THEN YOU CAN AUTHORIZE THE CHAIRS ON THE APPROPRIATE CONTRACT.
SO THERE'S SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER AT THE NEXT MEETING.
I'M GOING TO SAY LET'S SET A THRESHOLD.
IT DEPENDS ON UNDER THAT PERSON.
I'LL DO IT BEFORE THE NEXT ALL SHOVEL WORKING, HELPING WORKS HAS ALWAYS COME IN AND BEEN THE CHIEF, MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THIS PROCESS.
UM, OR ATTORNEY MOSTLY, DO WE NEED TO REPORT A LITTLE WASH? YES, PLEASE.
ON OUR TOUR BACK SEVERAL WEEKS AGO.
UM, ONE OF THE STOPS IN THE TOUR WHERE TWO PARTS IS ON WASHINGTON STREET, I BELIEVE THE ADDRESS IS ON 14, 11, 14, 14 WASHINGTON STREET.
AND MR. SHELLEY IS READING MY MIND.
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APPROXIMATELY A DECADE AGO.IT JUST WANTS YOU TO USE YOUR IMAGINATION.
BUT AGAIN THERE, THE GENTLEMAN WHO OWNS THOSE TWO PARCELS OR ON THOSE TWO PARCELS, UM, HAD CONTACTED THE CITY CLERK BECAUSE HE HAD AN INTEREST IN CONVEYING THOSE PROPERTIES.
UM, IT WAS TEXTBOOK BOOMING AND THINGS.
UM, AND I HAVE SINCE LEARNED THAT THAT GENTLEMAN HAS CONVEYED THOSE PROPERTIES AND VIGIL.
UM, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN A DEED OF RECORD YET.
I'M GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO UPDATE.
UM, ZACH, HE SAID NOT YET BEEN PAID.
HOWEVER, THAT IS THE MOST RECENT INFORMATION THAT I HAVE, UM, AS RECENTLY AS TODAY.
SO I WANT IT TO GIVE YOU ALL THE BENEFIT OF THAT INFORMATION.
GIVEN THE STOCK STORE A FEW WEEKS AGO, THE TRAILER ON THE RIGHT IS NOT THERE.
IT WAS DEMOLISHED BECAUSE OF A FEDERAL HOUSING SITUATION.
THE TRAILER ON THE LEFT IS THERE THIS MOMENT.
UM, HOWEVER, USE YOUR IMAGINATION.
REMEMBER THAT UNDER A MINIMUM STAFF THERE BEST I KNOW THERE IS NOT A COMPLAINT OR AN ORDER OF THE BUILDING INSPECTOR ON THAT PARTICULAR MOBILE HOME.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, NOW WHETHER CITIZENS HAVE CALLED AND COMPLAINED AND WHETHER THERE'S A PENDING INVESTIGATION, I CANNOT SAY BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT BECAUSE, UM, THERE IS NO FOR THE BUSINESS GAME TO GET IN A GERMAN MOTION TO ADJOURN.