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[1. Roll Call ]
A ROLL CALL PLEASE.OR IF YOU'RE JOHN DOHERTY HERE, HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM.
[2.A. RAJDC NC properties is requesting final plan approval for a 2-lot subdivision located on 6.18 +/- acres. The site is located at the intersection of Red Robin Lane and Garden Center Way. ]
I'LL READ THE AGENDA UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS ITEM A R A J D C AND C PROPERTIES.THERE'S REQUESTING FINAL PLAN APPROVAL FOR TWO LOT SUBDIVISION, LIKE AN EIGHT ON 6.18 MUSTER MONITOR SAVERS.
THE SITE IS LOCATED AT THE INTERSECTION OF ROCK RED, ROBIN LANE AND GARDEN CENTER WIFE, SAM.
THE PROPOSED PROJECT IS GOING TO BE A LARGE CARWASH ON ONE HALF PIZZA.
SECOND HALF GOT A COPY OF THE, THAT, UH, MAY 3RD, 2022 CITY GENERAL PLAN APPROVAL.
THE PROPOSED DIVISION FOUND THAT ALL TECHNICAL AND LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR AT GOOGLE AND SATISFIED COORDINATE THE CITY ORDINANCE FINAL PLAN APPROVAL FOR 17.
ANY DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? IS THIS A RECOMMENDATION WE'RE MAKING FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN OR AT THIS POINT THAT THE MOST REQUESTED WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION
[2.B. Two Farms, Inc. is requesting general plan approval for “Royal Farms”, a proposed one-lot subdivision located on 2.867 +/- acres. The property is located along Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard directly across from the Marketplace shopping center. ]
THE TWO FARMS INCORPORATED IS REQUESTING GENERAL PLAN APPROVAL FOR WILE FARMS. ONE LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON 2.67 PLUS OR MINUS EIGHT THAT THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG DR.MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE MARKETPLACE SHOPPING CENTER.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE ONE ROCK SEVENTH DIVISION, NO PUBLIC STREETS TO BE DEDICATED.
CITY OF NEWBURGH UTILITIES PROPERTY DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE MARKETPLACE.
I MEAN PROPERTY COPY OF SUBDIVISION MAP, ADDED INSIGHT PLANNING HERE.
Y'ALL JUST GIVE YOU A REFERENCE OF WHAT THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENTS INDICATING THE ACCESS TO SEE CONDITIONAL APPROVAL FROM THE CITY OF NEWBURGH, THE DEPARTMENTAL REVIEW COMMITTEE ON FEBRUARY 25TH, 2022 VISION ON IT, ALL TECHNICAL AND LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR GENERAL SUBDIVISION PLAN APPROVAL.
I'VE BEEN SATISFIED FOR THAT VISION CRITICAL AND RECOMMENDED QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
ANY DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST AS DISCUSSED AND SUBMITTED.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION, MAYBE WE HAVE A ROLL CALL CENTER.
[2.C. Two Farms, Inc. is requesting final plan approval for “Royal Farms”, a proposed one-lot subdivision located on 2.867 +/- acres. The property is located along Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. Boulevard directly across from the Marketplace shopping center. ]
NEXT ITEM IS C TWO FARMS AND RIDING IS REQUESTING FINAL PLAN WHILE FARMS A PROPOSED ONE LOT SUBDIVISION LOCATED ON 2.8, SIX, SEVEN PLUS OR MINUS ACRES.THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED ALONG DR.
BOULEVARD DIRECTLY ACROSS FROM THE MARKETPLACE SHOPPING CENTER SYNTH PLEASE.
SO JUST TO CLARIFY EVERYBODY TYPICALLY
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LEMONADE OR GENERAL PLANS ARE GOOD APPROVAL.AND THEN THERE'S DEVELOPMENT TIME WHERE ROADS AND OTHER INFRASTRUCTURE I'VE BUILT PRIOR TO THE AFRICA COMING BACK FOR FINAL PLAT, THE THEME.
THIS IS THE ONE LAST SATURDAY.
WE CAN DO IT BACK TO THAT AGAIN, THE PROPERTY WE HAVE SAW.
UM, SO WE JUST GOT GENERAL PLAN APPROVAL AND, UM, AGAIN, I REVIEWED THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION TO FIND ALL THE TECHNICAL LEGAL REQUIREMENTS FOR FINAL SUBROGATION PLAN APPROVAL.
THEREFORE, ANY QUESTIONS? EMOTION, MOTION TO APPROVE THE ITEM.
[2.D. A. Sydes Construction, Inc. is requesting general plan approval for “Atlas Valley at Bluewater Rise”, Phases 1-4, a proposed 209-lot Planned Unit Development on 85.14 +/- acres. The property is located to the north of County Line Road and to the west of Grouper Run in the Bluewater Rise development. ]
A SIZE CONSTRUCTION INCORPORATED IS REQUESTING GENERAL PLAN APPROVAL FOR ATLAS VALLEY AT BLOOMBERG ARISE PHASES ONE THROUGH FOUR.IF I PROPOSE 209 LOT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT ON 85 OR ONE, FOUR PLUS OR MINUS ACRES, THE PROPERTY IS WATER GUIDED TO THE NORTH OF COUNTY LINE ROAD AND THE WEST OF DEVELOPMENT.
UH, 84.14 ACRES, 209 LOSS, APPROXIMATELY 8,699 FEET OF A CREATURE PROPOSED UTILITIES.
OVERALL LOOK OBVIOUSLY WITH NORTHWEST THE NEXT ONE, COMING INTO WINTER, CARVER ADJACENT TO THE SOUTHWEST AREA OVERALL AREA.
AND THE SEVEN YEARS TO THE LEFT MAY 13TH, 2022, THE CITY OF NEWARK
SATISFIED, ACCORDING TO THE CITY GENERAL PLAN FOR ANY QUESTIONS, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE CONSTRUCT ONGOING CONSTRUCTION OF FINISHING THE WATER LOOP TO IMPROVE THEIR WATER POLE RATE.
AT THE MOMENT WE'VE GOT STAFF FROM ENGINEERING CAN ADDRESS THAT.
YEAH, THE, I UNDERSTAND THERE WAS A PROBLEM TO HAVE RIGHT AWAY.
AND THEN AS A CONTRACT AND RELEASE, YOU HAVE TO IMPROVE THE WORKFLOW RIGHT OUT THERE YET.
SO THE CITY IS CURRENTLY ENGAGED IN A PROJECT CALLED WE'VE RETITLED, THE SOUTH EAST WATER SYSTEMS PROJECT, WHICH ESSENTIALLY CREATED A LOOP BETWEEN TWO DEAD IN WATER MEANS WE HAVE ONE THAT WORKS ITS WAY THROUGH CAROLINA COLORS.
ONE THEN WORKS ITS WAY DOWN ON AIRPORT ROAD.
UM, RIGHT NOW WE'RE RUNNING HOTTIES OUT THERE.
I JUST COME INTO THE FRONT GATE, UM, PROBABLY 12, 1300 GALLONS A MINUTE.
AS YOU WORK YOUR WAY INTO WHERE THEY'VE GOT EXISTING HOMES.
NOW WE'RE, WE'RE HOVERING RIGHT AT THE THOUSAND DPM MARK.
UM, ONCE WE GET THE IMPROVEMENTS IN IT, IT WILL BE CLOSE TO 2000 GALLONS A MINUTE AT THE DAY, UM, ABOUT 14 OR 1500 GALLONS A MINUTE.
WHERE, HOW, HOW IS IT ARE CURRENTLY BEING BUILT AND YOU HAVE A THOUSAND GPM COVERED THROUGHOUT DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT PROJECT IS ADVERTISED FOR BIDS RIGHT NOW, BUT A PRETTY BIG MEETING NEXT THURSDAY FOR THE PROJECT WILL OPEN BIDS ON JUNE 26.
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AND THEN HE LEFT THEM OUT OF A CONTRACTOR IN HERE EARLY IN OUR FISCAL YEAR, WHICH STARTS JULY ONE.SO IN CONTRACTS IN PLACE, GET ALL THE APPROVALS DONE.
I'D LOVE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, SNOWING GROUND WORKING IN SEPTEMBER AND FINGERS, CROSS THINGS TO THE WELL COMPLETION OR COMPLETION COUNTER.
DO WE HAVE ANY ESTIMATED DATES OF WHEN THEY WOULD START AT CONSTRUCTION AND NEITHER OF THESE TWO SUBDIVISIONS, WE HAVE ANYONE FROM SIDE.
DO YOU HAVE ANY DATES OF WHEN YOU THINK THESE TWO SECTIONS WE'LL START BREAKING GROUND TO BUILD ON? I WAS OUT THERE AND I RODE IT THROUGH THE DIVISION AT GREAT LENGTHS.
AND THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS THAT, YOU KNOW, PERSONALLY MAKES YOU WONDER WHAT'S GOING ON THERE.
UM, IT'D BE A LOT EASIER IF WE HAVE A MASTER OF MY OWN WOKE UP TO THIS.
WHAT'D YOU SEE HERE AS FAR AS PLANNING IS WHAT WE RECORDED.
UH, THIS, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE IS CALLED CAPE AREA, AND IT'S GOT GENERAL PARENT APPROVAL BACK TO A WALL HERE ABOUT WHERE MY HAND IS.
THIS IS CALLED THIS LITTLE SECTION RIGHT HERE IS CALLED POINT.
I THINK THIS IS A PHASE ONE, WHICH WE'LL CONTINUE TO WRAP AROUND HERE.
THEY'VE DONE A COUPLE OF HOUSES GOING ON IN THE CAVE NOW.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST IN HUDSON TO START A HOUSE IN THERE.
IF THERE IS A SOLID WATER WARM TO POSSIBLY, UH, SOUTH WIND DEVELOPMENT STILL HAS HOUSES VACANT, LOTS IN THERE FOR HOUSES, WEREN'T GOING UP SOME HOUSE ON A THING.
SO THESE TWO IS BE AROUND TO HEAR INFRASTRUCTURE WISE.
UH, WE'RE GETTING READY TO GET CONTRACTS TO DEAL WITH THIS.
THE REST OF THIS MIGHT HAVE TO PAY FOR JUST A SMALLER LOSS, BUT IN POINT OF THE LARGER LOCKS, OKAY.
THEY DON'T SEEM TO BE MOVING AS GOOD AS THE SMALL LOCKS.
SO IF IT'S GOING TO PROBABLY TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO GET THIS DONE, SO IT'LL BE ABOUT A YEAR BEFORE IT WAS IN THE HOUSE.
I REALLY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THIS OVER HERE TWO YEARS, PROBABLY IF WE'RE LUCKY, UM, BEFORE YOU, MY HOUSE, A LOT OF RED BILL HOUSE ON, IN THAT DEVELOPMENT, UH, IT SEEMS TO TELL YOU EVERY TIME WE DO, ONE OF THESE SECTIONS SEEM TO TAKE ABOUT A YEAR TO GET ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN, PARTICULARLY IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS DURING THE PANDEMIC, NO SHORTAGE OF MATERIALS AND HOW LONG IT TAKES GETTING TO, AND THE INFRASTRUCTURE CAN HANDLE THIS EQUIPMENT.
IF THERE'S IN AND OUT OF CONSTANTLY IN THE HOUSES, THE INFRASTRUCTURE, YOUR ROADS ARE WELL ENOUGH TO HANDLE ALL THE COMING IN AND OUT.
AND THE VIBRATION IN THE HOMES ARE NOT BEING SERVED.
YEAH, EVERYTHING IS THAT WE BUILT.
THAT WAS FOR THE WHOLE SITE, UH, SUCH AS DOWN HERE, WE HAVE A REGIONAL PUMP STATION DESIGNED TO HANDLE ALL THE HOUSES ON WHOLE 500 ACRES WILL BE AN OLD PUMP STATION THAT GOES HERE THAT PUMPS INTO THAT PUMP STATION, EROSION, DESIGN, AND SIZE TO CARRY THAT TYPE OF LOAD.
BUT MY, MY BEST GUESS IS IT'D BE AT LEAST TWO YEARS BEFORE THE FIRST HOUSE CAUSE EVEN STARTED, SHOW ME WHERE COUNTY LAND RODEO SPLITS SO THAT THIS AREA IS THE ONLY WAY IN AND OUT.
IS THAT CORRECT? UH, I'M AWARE OF HER THAT RIGHT THERE.
UM, WE'RE STEPPING OUT HERE ON THIS STUFF.
NOW, WHAT'S YOUR SPELLING OUT ONTO COUNTY LINE ROAD ONE AND COUNTY LINE ROAD.
IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN IS A DIRT ROAD, IS THAT CORRECT? UM, THIS IS CROWDED, UH, AFTER FARMS CAME THROUGH THE STATE, WENT IN THERE AND PUT ABC, UM, FOR A TIES INTO REAL, IS IT WE'LL CALL IT FROM THE OLD WAY TO FLUSH THIS ALL STUFF.
ARE THERE OTHER QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY.
CAN PUBLIC SPEAK THEN PUBLIC SPACE? IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? NOT IN THIS PORTION OF THIS IS A, AN OPEN MEETING.
IT IS NOT A MEETING WHERE THE PUBLIC COULD SPEAK UNLESS WE ALLOW IT.
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WE WILL ALLOW PUBLIC TO SPEAK WHEN WE GET THROUGH WITH THE MAIN PART OF THE AGENDA.BUT RIGHT NOW, NOW, UM, I PERSONALLY THINK THAT WE NEED TO STUDY THIS A LITTLE FURTHER.
I WOULD WANT TO SEE THIS MOST PHONE OR TABLE UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING IS ANYBODY ELSE AGREE WITH ME? THE FACT THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE TWO YEARS INTO IT BEFORE THEY GO IN TO PUT A SHOVEL, WE CAN WAIT AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS MATTER, UH, FOR THE NEXT MEETING IN JULY.
UM, AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT FURTHER WITH THEM.
WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO LOOK FOR? I AGREE.
MY ADS, SOMETHING WOULDN'T BE LOOKING FOR.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO STUDY THE WHOLE THING.
WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHAT IS BEING BUILT THERE.
WHAT IS COMING? CAN OUR INFRASTRUCTURE HANDLE THIS IN THE LONG RUN? THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ANSWERED.
I THINK ONE OF THE QUESTIONS FOR SURE WILL BE WHETHER OR NOT WE GET THE CONTRACT FOR THE WATER MAIN SIGN IN EXACTLY.
AND I THINK THAT IS CRITICAL TO ANY MORE DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
WITHOUT THAT WATER MAIN, I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM.
DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THE DIRT ROAD OR GRAVEL RUNNING WILL GET PAID AT THE STATE ROAD? AND WE HAVE NO IDEA.
LAST TIME I SPOKE TO A
AND WE ALSO WANT TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF DRESSES AND WHATNOT AND INVOLVED IN BLOCK, NO URGENCY VEHICLES, OUR OWN, AS OPPOSED TO, I MEAN, IF SOMEBODY'S GOT A HEART ATTACK IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS THING, WOULD THEY USE HOW THE LAND ROVER WAS IN ONE
I'D LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE WATERLINE.
I WOULD LIKE TO DO SOME MOTION TO TABLE, UM, THIS ITEM UNTIL THE NEXT REGULAR BOARD MEETING, AS WE WADE INFORMATION ON THE, UM, THE, UH, THE WATER SUPPLY ISSUE THAT WE WERE ENGINEER AND THAT'S MORE FINALIZED, THEN PROCEED ACCORDINGLY.
WHEN HE HAD THAT INFORMATION, WE WOULD ALSO LIKE TO HAVE MORE INFORMATION, UM, CONCERNING THE GRAVEL ROAD AND ITS SUITABILITY FOR AMERICAN SEA RESCUE EQUIPMENT COMING THROUGH THERE AND MAKE SURE THAT'S CLARIFIED, UH, FOR OUR CONCERNS AS WELL.
YEAH, WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK THE FIRE DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THAT.
A LOT DISCUSSION BACK AND FORTH ALL THE TIME.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS.
I'M NOT SAYING I'M IN FAVOR OF THAT AND JUST CONTINUE RIGHT NOW.
I'M NOT, I'M NOT THE DISFAVOR OF WAITING A MONTH, BUT SHE SAYS, LIKE SOMEONE SAID, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE BUILDING THIS FOR TWO YEARS.
BUT I THINK IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, IF I'M WRONG SAID A FEW MONTHS AGO, WE TALKED ABOUT THINGS, ALL THESE OTHER DIVISIONS IN THE FUTURE THAT ARE ABOVE 200 BUT WE DID ALREADY TALK ABOUT THAT.
TALK ABOUT IT EVERY YEAR, RIGHT? SO I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE TALKING ABOUT THIS YEARS COMING.
WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE, THE FIRE COMMISSIONER ABOUT THE WAR, THE GENTLEMEN HERE, AND IT SAID CITY ENGINEERS.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF WE GET THIS ROUND CONSTANTLY.
THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO HAVE ONE FOR ME TO VOTE ON SOMETHING.
AND THE OTHER THREE, FOUR, IT TOOK IT DOWN AND WROTE THE NOTE TO THE MINUTES AND COME BACK, WHATEVER I NEED, KNOW WHAT WHAT'S GOING ON MYSELF, EVEN THOUGH I'M ALL IN FAVOR OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE WATER SUPPLY, BUT I WISH WE HAD A DEFINITIVE ANSWER AND THEN FORGET IT.
HOPEFULLY WE WILL LISTEN TO IT.
THAT'S A REAL CONCERN OF MINE.
SOME DAYS YOU CAN HAVE SHORT MEMORIES.
I HAD ONE BEFORE I DIDN'T GO TO THAT MEETING.
SO I APOLOGIZE BUT WASTING TIME NOW.
BUT, UH, UH, SETH, I DO HAVE A QUESTION WHAT ROUGHLY, AND I'M NOT GOING TO HOLD YOU TO
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AN EXACT DAY, BUT ROUGHLY TO PUT THIS ISSUE TO BED ABOUT THE WATER, AND MAYBE THERE'S A BETTER QUESTION TO REALLY PUT THIS ISSUE TO BED.WHAT, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT TIMELINE WISE? BECAUSE I THINK, I THINK THAT'S PART PAT'S CONCERN.
I THINK IT'S PART OF SONY'S CONCERN.
SO WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT TO TRY TO RUN THIS TO GROUND AS FAR AS NO PUN INTENDED, BUT RUN THIS TO GROUND FOR THE WARMISH.
ERIC TOLD US BY THE END OF THIS CALENDAR YEAR, IT HELPED TO HAVE SOLVED A HUNDRED CONSTRUCTION CONSTRUCTION.
SEPTEMBER, SEPTEMBER IS WHAT YOU SAID.
SO THE PROJECT IS CURRENTLY OUT FOR BID OR I'VE HAVE IT ADVERTISED FOR BID.
IF WE GET ENOUGH PARTICIPATION IS ON THE 26TH OF JUNE.
WE HAVE CONVINCED IF NOT, WE'LL HAVE TO RE ADVERTISE, WAIT A COUPLE OF WEEKS, DO IT AGAIN.
ONCE WE OPEN BIDS, WE HAVE A REVIEW PERIOD.
I ALWAYS GOT TO MAKE SURE I THINK PROPER CONTRACTS, THERE'S LEGAL REVIEW AND APPROVAL TO GET THE CONTRACT READY TO GO.
IT WILL PROBABLY TAKE A 90 DAY WINDOW ONCE WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OR ACTUALLY HAVE SOMEBODY UNDER CONTRACT READY TO WORK.
UM, WOULD THAT BEING SAID, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF WEIGHT IN THE WAY OF THIS PROJECT.
YOU CAN DO SOME CLEARING THROUGH THE, THE UNDEVELOPED PORTION, CAROLINA COLOR OUT THE, UH, SORRY, CAROLINE ROAD.
BUT FROM THERE, THERE'S NOT A LOT OF OBSTACLES TO NAVIGATE THE NEW PIPELINE AROUND.
SO IT SHOULD BE FAIRLY QUICK INSTALLATION OF EVERY, GET A CONTRACTOR HERE AND GET MATERIALS HERE.
BUT TODAY'S CONTRACTOR ENVIRONMENT AND MATERIAL ENVIRONMENT THAT THERE'S REALLY, THERE'S A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY.
SO IF EVERYTHING GOES WELL, EVERYTHING GOES LIKE IT BECAUSE WE COULD BE IN A POSITION TO HAVE THE NEW MAIN ON AN INSERVICE BY THE END OF THE COUNTY HERE THAT COULD ADD, THERE COULD BE SIX MONTHS ADDED TO THAT WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT REALLY ANY MAJOR, MAJOR OBSTACLE, JUST NORMAL, NORMAL GLAZER, SEEING CONTRACTOR PROCUREMENT AND MATERIAL AVAILABILITY RIGHT NOW.
BUT WE SHOULD IN 30 DAYS, THEN WE KNOW THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY MOVING FORWARD.
WE'RE GOING TO BE IN NO BETTER POSITION IN 30 DAYS.
I'LL HAVE A POSITION THAT'S BEEN GOOD.
I'LL HAVE PRICES BACK IN 30 DAYS, BUT THAT'S ALL WE'LL HAVE PROJECTS ALREADY GOT A PROJECT FUND ESTABLISHED.
WE'VE GOT ABOUT $450,000 IN THAT WAITING FOR THE BIDS TO COME IN, TO, UH, MOVE THE REMAINING MONEY NECESSARY FOR CONSTRUCTION FROM THE WATER FUND BALANCE INTO THE PROJECT FUND.
UM, WE'RE READY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT, BUT IN 30 DAYS, WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ANY CLOSER TO GETTING IT DONE.
OTHER THAN WE'LL HAVE PRICES ON OUR HANDS.
WE WANT TO HAVE AN EXECUTED CONTRACT IN 30 DAYS, WHICH WILL AT LEAST HAVE INTERESTING CONTRACT.
WE WILL HAVE HAD AN INTEREST IN CONTRACTORS.
WE'LL HAVE JUST THE PERFORMANCE AS WELL AS THE PERFORMANCE AND PAYMENT.
IT'S AN OPTION FOR THIS COMMITTEE TO, UH, MOVE THIS PAST US, BUT ULTIMATE'S HAND WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
IT DOESN'T GET TOTALLY LOST THE GENERAL CLIENT.
THEY WANT HER TO FILE UNTIL EVERYTHING IS
THEN WE HAVE, WELL, WE GOT TO HAVE MORE VACATION OUT.
THERE ARE GONNA BE BITTERS OR WHATNOT.
I'D HAVE MORE CONFIDENCE THAT THE BORAL SITUATION WILL BE SOLVED BY YEAR FOUR TIME THEREOF.
AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO BRING INTO TO MOTION, NEED TO TABLE THIS TILL THE NEXT REGULAR JULY DUTY AWAITING OUTCOME OF THIS PROCESS.
AND IS THERE ANY CLOSURE OF THE WATER LOOP TO IMPROVE THE WATER FLOW FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT? WE HAVE A MOTION.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND? IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON A REAL CONFERENCE? YES, MA'AM AND NON-BLACK YES, YES, YES, YES.
[2.E. A. Sydes Construction, Inc. is requesting general plan approval for “Olympic Harbour at Blue Water Rise”, Phases 1-4, a proposed 203-lot Planned Unit Development on 71.59 +/- acres. The property is located to the north of County Line Road and to the west of Grouper Run in the Bluewater Rise development. ]
ITEM E HEY SIDE'S CONSTRUCTION INC IS REQUESTING AGENDAS FOR OLYMPIC HARDWARE AT BLUE WATER-WISE SPACES.ONE THROUGH FOUR, I PROPOSED 200, THREE LOT PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, 1 71 0.59 BUSTER MONITOR SPEAKERS.
THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED TO THE NORTH OF COUNTY LINE ROAD AND TO THE WEST OF GROUP OF RON AND THE BLEED WARNER'S EYES DEVELOPMENT SET.
YEAH, I THINK DISCUSSING BACK TO BACK THIS SEGMENT, THAT'S GOING TO BORDER ON CANADA ON ROUTE 203 ROUNDS VERSUS 200, 209
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SO MAY 13TH, 2022 TO SAVE YOU ARE IN DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE, CONDITIONAL APPROVED ONLY FOR CARVER.IF WE WANT IT RISE BEFORE VISION THAT ALL THE TECHNICAL AND LEGAL REQUIREMENTS, THE GENERAL SUBMISSION AND APPROVAL AND SATISFIED THE CITY OF
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I STILL HAVE RESERVATIONS.
I THINK WE NEED TO TABLE UNTIL NEXT MONTH SO WE CAN STUDY IT A LITTLE LONGER AND MAYBE GET A FEW MORE DEFINITIVE ANSWERS.
SO MAY I HAVE A MOTION I LIKE TO, AS THIS IS THE JOINING THE, UM, I AM, I WILL INTRODUCE TO THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS NEXT MONTH, AS WE AWAIT ANSWERS ON THE WATERLOO INSTRUCTION TO IMPROVE THE WATER FLOW BREAK, WHERE THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARITY, YOUR STATEMENT ABOUT NEXT MONTH WOULD BE FOR JULY.
IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IS THAT MAY WE HAVE A LOCAL PLACE, UM, BLACK AND SHOP? YES, YES, YES.
THIS TIME I KNOW THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE FROM THE BLUE WATER RISE SUBDIVISION, WOULD YOU RAISE YOUR HANDS SO WE CAN SEE WHO YOU ARE.
THIS IS AN OPEN MEETING, AS I SAID, IT ALLOWS YOU TO COME AND LISTEN TO WHAT WE SAY.
THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN SPEAK IS IF WE GRANT YOU THAT PERMISSION, WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE YOU 20 MINUTES TO SPEAK.
SO YOU MAY SPEAK UNTIL ACCORDING TO MY WATCH, SIX, 18, YES.
YOU ALSO HAVE A NUMBER OF FOLKS FROM THE EVAN'S MILL SUBDIVISION, WHICH WILL BE IMPACTED BY THIS.
UM, AND SO I WOULD ASK THAT WE BE ABLE TO ADDRESS AS WELL.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE NO MORE THAN FOUR MINUTES PER PERSON, SO YOU COULD HAVE UP TO FIVE PEOPLE SPEAK.
SO WHO WOULD LIKE TO GO FIRST? UH, THE SIMPLE QUESTION THAT I HAVE, IT'LL TAKE TWO SECONDS.
IT HAS TO DO NOT ONLY WITH INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT WITH THE QUANTITY AND VOLUME OF VEHICLES, TRAFFIC THAT WILL EXIT ON THE, UH, OFF THE COUNTY LINE ROAD THROUGH OLD AIRPORT ROAD, 400, UH, HOMES, 800 PEOPLE, 800 CARS, NO BLACKTOP BETWEEN COUNTY LINE ROAD AND THE EXIT OTHER THAN OLD AIRPORT ROAD.
I THINK YOU NEED TO ADDRESS IT.
AND I THINK UNTIL YOU HAVE WHAT IT TAKES FOR PEOPLE TO MOVE IN AND OUT OF THERE, YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE A PROBLEM.
WE HAVE CHILDREN 14 OF WHICH LIVE ALONG OLD AIRPORT ROAD CARS THAT ARE LATE IN THE MORNING, GO THROUGH THERE 50 MILES AN HOUR.
SOMETIMES THEY'RE NOT A 25 MILE, AN HOUR SPEED ZONE.
THEY GO AT LEAST 30, SOME OF THEM 60, IT'S JUST A, IT'S GOING TO BE A HAZARD.
UH, NOT ONLY THAT, THE, THE FOLKS WENT OVER THERE FOR THE ROAD THAT THE FOLKS WHO ARE DRIVING THROUGH THERE WHO HAVE NO OTHER REGRETS, THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT TO SAY.
CAN WE JUST GO RIGHT DOWN THE ROAD IN, UM, I'M AN EVAN'S MILL AND I, COUPLE OF THINGS COME TO MIND THERE.
FIRST OF ALL, KIND OF THE SCHOOLS HANDLE ALL OF THIS EXTRA.
UM, I KNOW THE CREEKSIDE IS PRETTY FULL ALREADY.
SO THINKING ABOUT THAT, UH, DURING FLORENCE, WE ACTUALLY HAD PEOPLE THAT HAD TO BE RESCUED BY BOAT TO GET FROM BLUEWATER RIVES OUT, UM, BECAUSE COUNTY LINE ROAD WAS CLOSED DUE TO THE STORM.
UM, SO FIRMLY BELIEVE THAT THAT THE SAFETY OF THOSE RESIDENTS IS GOING TO BE COMPROMISED AS THINGS ARE NOW, UNLESS SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH FOREST COUNTY LINE.
UH, MY NAME'S MARK AVELLINO ON FROM BLUE WATER, RAJ, THE FEDERAL GOL SECTION, UM, RIGHT THERE AT THE ENTRANCE.
UM, ONE OF THE BIG, UH, THINGS THAT WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IS, YOU KNOW, DO WE KNOW THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO
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BUILD THE BELT CORRECTLY? WE HAVE FAILING INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE AREA.UM, AND IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP, WE'VE ASKED FOR ATTENTION AND WE HADN'T RECEIVED IT.
AND TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE INFRASTRUCTURE TO CONTINUE, UM, CONTINUES NOT TO MEET THE STANDARD THAT THE CITY WON'T EVEN ACCEPT THE STREETS.
SO THAT'S THE FIRST PART IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THINGS IN THAT AREA THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED AND FIXED.
UM, WE HAVE FOG DRAINS THAT THEY NEVER CAME, SWAPPED THE ROADS.
I HAVE, UH, A STORM DRAIN THAT RUNS FROM THE STREET DOWN TO THE LITTLE RONALD BARRY ENGINE RETENTION POND AS 10 INCHES OF SEVEN.
I'VE REQUESTED FOR OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS FOR THEM TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES THROUGH OUR HOA.
AND IT, WE HAVE A FAILING, UH, EROSION OF POTENTIAL POND.
IT'S ABOUT FOUR FOOT DEEP, UM, FAILING, UM, CULVERTS ALONG THAT SAME AREA WHERE IT COULD PERHAPS ALL COME DOWN AND FAILING.
AND THEN ALSO THE SAME CONSIDERATION.
CAUSE WE ONLY HAVE ONE ROUTE TO BE ADDRESSED.
AND WE HAVE PICTURES FROM FOREIGNS TO WHERE THERE'S A SIGN THERE.
AND THE WATERMARK IS ABOUT AT THE SEVEN FOOT BAR, JUST BECAUSE OF THAT AREA, THAT WHERE THE BRIDGE IS GOING OUT THERE, IT JUST RETAINS SO MUCH WATER.
I DRIVE COUNTY LINE ROAD EVERY DAY, I'M WORKING POSSIBLE MOREHEAD.
SO I USE IT AS A CHEAT AS WELL AS TO GET OVER JACKSON THOUGH.
UM, IT'S, IT'S NOT A GRAVEL ROAD.
IT'S, IT'S PRETTY WELL MAINTAINED FOR AS NOW TRAFFIC.
I MEAN, I SEE A HONDA CIVIC FLYING DOWN AT TWO O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING, BUT IT'S STILL, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF WASH OUT AREAS AND THINGS LIKE THAT I THINK SHOULD BE IMPROVED FIRST IN ORDER, YOU KNOW, THIS, UH, TRANSPORTATION CONSIDERATIONS.
SO THE BIGGEST, UH, ISSUE THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS IS JUST, YOU KNOW, FIX WHAT'S ALREADY THERE AND IT'S CONSIDERED COMPLETE PRIOR TO CONTINUE TO DEVELOP.
AS FAR AS THE PROGRESS THAT TIMELINE ROAD, I'VE ALREADY SEEN ONE VEHICLE UPSIDE DOWN, IT WAS A PICK UP TRUCK AND THAT WAS A WEEK AND A HALF AGO.
GRANTED, THEY WANTED ME TO ASK THE FORKLIFT TO HAVE LOFT AND JACQUELINE PIZZA BEING FOOLED INTO HER ACTUAL PAGE WHERE YOU DRIVE IT.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN DOWN THERE.
UM, COMPLETE AGREEANCE WITH, UH, THE SPEED AND THE TRAFFIC FOR THE CONSTRUCTION.
I KNOW, UM, BEFORE IT BOUGHT IN THERE, I WAS ACTUALLY RENTING ONE OF THE HOUSES THAT WAS A FLOOD HOUSE DURING FLORENCE.
UM, BUT THERE WAS AT LEAST ONE INCIDENT WITH A, UH, I BELIEVE IT WAS A C-MET TRUCK THAT RAN OFF THE ROAD THAT WAS MILK.
IF THE ROAD ISN'T EXTREMELY WIDE DOWN THERE AND, UH, TORE UP A LOT OF THE IMAGES ON THE PROPERTY THEY RAN INTO.
UH, SO I, I THINK THAT IF TIMELINE WAS PAVED, WE WOULDN'T HAVE HAD THAT WRONG.
I THINK HE, AND, AND COUNTING ON HE'S FORCED OUT FROM ALL THE CONSTRUCTION TRUCKS AND EVERYTHING ELSE THAT GOES DOWN THROUGH THERE TOO.
SO JUST TO REITERATE BACK UP, THEN THAT'S THE ONE THING, THANK THE TRAFFIC.
I'M ALSO, UM, EVAN'S MILL RESIDENT, BUT OUR HOUSE IN 2006 AND THE CHANGES THAT HAVE HAPPENED TO THE ROAD AND IT'S JUST BEEN REPLACED, UM, LAST YEAR, YEAR AND A HALF AGO, IT'S INSANE.
I'VE NEVER HAD TO WAIT, PULLING OUT OF MY DRIVEWAY BEFORE AND IT'S, IT'S SPEEDERS.
IT'S A LOT OF THE CONSTRUCTION CREWS SPEEDING.
UM, AND WE'VE LOWERED IT FROM 45 TO 25 AND IT'S, IT'S STILL DOES NOT MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
AND WE LOST WHEN CAR COLORS WENT IN, WE LOST OUR WILCOX ROAD EGRESS IT'S THE OLD AIRPORT IS THE ONLY WAY TO GET OUT.
AND IF YOU PUT THIS MANY MORE HOUSES DOWN THERE, IT'S GOING TO BE INSANE.
WE'RE ALSO AN EVANS MELON IN THE SAME SPEED AND NEGRESS.
THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO ADD IS THE FUNDING IS A RESTRAINT WITH IT.
SINCE IT'S A STATE MAINTAIN BIRTH, AS THERE A WAY TO GET BLUE WATER RISE, TO HELP PITCH IN SOME OF THE FUNDING.
SO THAT WAY THE ROAD CAN GET PAID IS THAT IT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE 400 EXTRA HOUSES.
AND I'VE HAD BEEN TRYING TO LOBBY FOR THIS FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS SINCE I'VE BEEN LIVING THERE AND NO ONE WANTS TO TAKE OWNERSHIP ABOUT IT, CAUSE IT'S STATE-OWNED AND BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.
BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU CAN JUST GET SOME MONEY THINGS, JUST MY 2 CENTS.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT TO THE ATTENTION OF THE BOARD.
NOW I'M ALSO IN EVAN'S MILL, NO NOTES, NO DIFFERENCES WITH ALL OF THAT, THOUGH.
SOMEONE DID SAY TO ME THAT WHEN CAROLINA COLORS WAS FILLED, THERE WAS DISCUSSION OF A BRIDGE GOING OVER
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BRACES CREEK FROM CAROLINE TO COLORS TO THAT WOULD OFFER ANOTHER ACCESS.THAT'S NEVER GONE ANYWHERE AND NEEDS TO BE A CONSIDERATION, PERHAPS.
EVAN'S MILL LIVE RIGHT OFF OF WHAT AIRPORT AND A COUNTY LINE IS NOT A VIABLE OPTION AFTER A COUPLE OF DAYS OF RAIN, GOOD LUCK GOING DOWN COUNTY LINE ROAD.
UM, AND TO SAY IT'S GRAVEL AS A PUSH BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE THE DUST CLOUDS AS YOU DRIVE BY THE UNIQUE, YOU CAN'T FOLLOW SOMEBODY TOO CLOSE.
YOU'RE NOT GOING TO EVER SEE WHERE YOU'RE GOING.
UM, THE OTHER THING IS, UH, OLD AIRPORT IS THE CONCERN BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY ROAD IN AND OUT.
AND I WAS GOING TO INVITE WHO THINKS THAT'S A GOOD ROAD AND CAN STAND UP TO TWO MORE YEARS OF HARD TRAFFIC GOING ACROSS IT TO COME SIT ON MY PORCH.
VIRTA YET COME AND TAKE A WALK WITH ME.
I KNOW WHAT AIRPORT AND LET'S SEE WHAT YOU THINK.
MA'AM UH, I'M AN EVIDENCE MILL ALSO, AND MY CONCERN IS BRIDGE ROAD.
WE HAVE A HURRICANE THAT BRIDGE IS UNDER WATER.
THAT ENTIRE SUBDIVISION BACK THERE IS NOW STRANDED DURING FLORENCE.
I BELIEVE IT WAS, THEY HAD TO GET THE NATIONAL GUARD IN THERE TO DO A WATER RESCUE, TO GET TO THE OTHER SIDE, TO GET PEOPLE OUT TO A HOSPITAL.
SO, YOU KNOW, FOR THE CITY TO PROCEED WITHOUT HAVING AN ALTERNATE ROUTE IT'S VIABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, THAT I WOULD, I WOULD SAY THAT THAT BORDERLINES ON NEGLIGENCE AT THE VERY LEAST THERE NEEDS TO BE ANOTHER WAY OUT FOR THAT SUBDIVISION, UH, IN FAIRNESS FOR THEM AND TO TRY TO PUT AN AMBULANCE DOWN OLD AIRPORT ROAD AND GO BE DOA.
MA'AM UM, I'M FROM BLUE WATER EYES.
UH, WE ACTUALLY HAVE A PETITION CIRCULATING RIGHT NOW IN THE PAST 24 HOURS.
NOT ALL OF THEM ARE PRESENT THE SAME EVENING.
UM, AND I WILL SIMPLY READ IT TO YOU.
IT ECHOES MANY OF THE CONCERNS ALREADY BROUGHT THE SAVING THE RESIDENTS OF BLUEWATER ARISE OR POST THE NEIGHBORHOOD PLANNING COMMISSION.
EITHER DELAY PERMITS PROVIDED THE ADDITIONAL INSPECTION OVERSIGHT FOR A SIDES AT THE TWO PROPOSED DEVELOPMENTS, ATLAS VALLEY AT BLUEWATER RISE IN OLYMPIC HARBOR AT WATER RISE AND THE WATER RISE RESIDENTS HAD EXPRESSED CONCERNS TO THE CITY NEIGHBOR AND OVER VARIOUS ISSUES.
FIRST, THE BUILDER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR MAINTAINING STREETS AND SIDEWALKS THROUGHOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
CONTRARY TO THIS STRESS IN THE SIDEWALKS ARE NOT LING TIME TO PRESENT SAFETY HAZARDS IN SOME AREAS, STRAITS AND COMPLETED AREAS OF BLUEWATER EYES ARE NOT UP TO CITY STANDARDS FOR THE CITY TO ACCEPT THEM WHEN THE BUILDER CHOOSES TO TURN THEM OVER TO THE CITY FOR MAINTENANCE, THE BUILDER DOES NOT APPEAR TO MAKING THE NECESSARY IMPROVEMENTS OR REPAIRS INSTEAD FOCUSING ON PAVING NEW STREETS, SECOND DRAINAGE.
THESE CONTINUE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE BUILDER HAS ALREADY ACQUIRED ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT BY THE CITY OF NEW WOOD.
PUTTING IN DRAINAGE PIPE, SWALES AND DITCHES HAVE FILLED BACK IN LEADING TO MINOR FLOODING IN SOME YARDS.
IT PROPER DRAINAGE ALSO CONTRIBUTES TO STRAIGHTEN CURRENT DAMAGE.
THIRD, THE QUALITY OF HOMES RESIDENTS HAVE HAD NUMEROUS ISSUES WITH WIRING PLUMBING AND APPLIANCES.
THE BUILDER HAS BEEN KNOWN TO PLACE REPAIRS IN MONTHS INTO THE FUTURE.
IF NOT COMPLETELY PASSING ISSUES OFF AS NORMAL, IT'S NOT THE DESIRE OF BLUE WATER, ROZ RESIDENTS TO PREVENT DEVELOPMENT OF THE AREA.
RATHER, WE DESIRE A COMMUNITY THAT AS WELL-BUILT AND WILL HOLD VALUE FOR YEARS TO COME.
IT'S THIS DESIRE THAT BRINGS US BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP IN THIS MATTER, PLEASE DELAY OR PROVIDE ADDITIONAL OVERSIGHT AND PERMITTING ESADE BLUE WATER ROZ CONSTRUCTION UNTIL THE ABOVE CONCERNS HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
UH, THERE'S ALSO, UH, CONCERNS ABOUT, UH, ECHOING OVER AND OVER ABOUT COUNTY LINE ROAD.
THERE HAS BEEN, UM, I THINK EVERYTHING MENTIONED HERE TONIGHT, UH, HAD, HAS BEEN, UH, WHEN WE HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND ALL OF THESE ISSUES COME UP OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
UM, AND QUITE HONESTLY, WHAT WE WOULD APPRECIATE FROM THE CITY IS THAT YOU TAKE THESE CONCERNS TO HEART AND THAT YOU PROVIDE US SOME SORT OF RELATE.
UM, WE DON'T, WE WANT TO SAY OUR HOME VALUES HOME.
WE FOUGHT IN THAT NEIGHBOR IT OR A REASON.
UM, BUT WE ALSO, UM, WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SAFE HOMES.
WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT IF THERE'S AN EMERGENCY OR A HURRICANE.
UM, IF ONE OF MY CHILDREN HAS TO BE TAKEN VIA AMBULANCE SOMEWHERE, I WOULD LIKE TO NOT KNOW THEY HAVE TO GO DOWN COUNTY LINE ROAD TO GET THERE.
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LIKE TO KNOW IF MY HOUSE IS ON FIRE AND MAYBE FOR SOME REASON THAT HOUSE NEXT TO IT STARTS FIRE.I DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE FIREFIGHTERS CHOOSING.
THOSE ARE THINGS THAT I NEED TO BE ABLE TO DO TO SLEEP AT NIGHT.
AND RIGHT NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HITTING AN EXTRA 400 HOMES.
I CAN'T LET MY CHILDREN PLAY IN THE STREET BECAUSE PEOPLE SPEED THROUGH THEIR EDDINS MILL HAS AN ISSUE WITH SPEEDING JOSH IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'VE DONE THUS FAR.
THIS IS THE WAY WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS.
THIS IS NOT, OUR HANDS ARE TIED TO FIX THESE THINGS.
EVERY ONE OF THESE, WHEN THIS THING CAME UP, EVERYTHING WAS, WE SENT IT TO THE BOARD OF ALL THE VENDORS, AT LEAST THREE TIMES HAVING EXITS AND ENTRANCES AND THEY SHOT ME.
IT NEVER MADE IT TO THE BOARD OR SOMETHING.
WHEN YOU SAY, I GUESS WHEN I LEAVE, BECAUSE I IS SO WE UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU SAID, OUR HANDS ARE TIED HERE.
AS LONG AS THE DEVELOPER MEETS ALL THE ORDINANCES AS THEY STAND, WE HAVE POSTPONED, BUT WE'RE REALLY JUST KICKING IT THAT I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE KICKING IT DOWN THE ROAD.
I SAID, ONCE WE WERE HOME, HOPEFULLY, AND PRAYERFULLY ORGANIZED AS FAR AS SPEED AND STUFF LIKE THAT, THAT'S NOTHING.
THERE'S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT.
BUT KNOWING, I MEAN, KNOWING THE ELEVATIONS THAT DUDE, MAYBE FLOODING THERE, NOBODY WHAT'S UP, YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE GOT FOR YOU RESPECTFULLY WHEN I, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE FIRE LINES PUT IN BEFORE YOU CAN BUILD.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE BUILDING FOR THAT.
WE'VE HAVE TO IT FOR 30 DAYS, MAN.
BUT A FEW MONTHS AGO I WAS THREATENED TO BE ARRESTED.
IF I DIDN'T ALLOW THE MOTION TO GO FORWARD TO APPROVE HERE, I WAS ALMOST ARRESTED.
SO IS BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T WANT TO APPROVE.
SO I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT IF YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, VERY CONCERNED MEMBER OF THE DDOT WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO GET THE TOWN'S LINE VOTE.
BUT THE, BUT THE STATE DOESN'T HAVE THE MONEY.
EVERY THAT'D BE THEIR ATTENDANCE OF A COMPETE IN THIS DAY.
AND EACH DIVISION IS SCREAMING FOR MORE AND MORE MONEY.
THE OUTER BANKS THAT ROAD GETS WASHED OUT ALL THE TIME.
THEY HAVE TO GET FUNDING FOR THAT.
THE PEOPLE IN THE MOUNTAINOUS AREAS, IF YOUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION MAYBE PUT UP SOME MONEY TO HELP THE STATE GO BACK, WELL, WE'LL GET MY BILL AND GET THAT TAPE.
OUR HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION RIGHT NOW IS MR. SOX.
WE HAVE RESIDENCE, MR. SIDES WAS NOT TURNED OVER BEFORE.
IF YOU HAVE COMPLAINTS, YOU NEED TO FILE A COMPLAINT WITH THE CONTRACTORS, FOR THE LICENSING AND LET THEM INVESTIGATE.
I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT IT WAS BEST FOR ORDER.
MY HUSBAND AND I ACTUALLY HAD TO HIRE A LAWYER TO BE ABLE TO CLOSE ON OUR HOME OUTSIDE OF THAT CLOSING LAWYER, ED, FOR THAT FOR A MOMENT.
AND AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK.
YOU KNOW, THE INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES HERE ARE CRITICAL, AND I UNDERSTAND RESPECT THAT, BUT THE ISSUE OF THE HOMEOWNERS WHO HAVE ALREADY BOUGHT INTO PHASES ONE THROUGH THREE, I THINK THE FACT THAT THEY'RE NOT BEING HEARD, THEY ABSOLUTELY HAVE NO VOICE.
THAT'S A MEMBER OF THE HOA, THESE ISSUES.
ALSO FROM A STANDPOINT, I HAVE HAD A CONVERSATION JUST THE OTHER DAY FROM A, A YOUNG MOTHER WHO WAS TERRIFIED THAT THEIR HOUSE, BECAUSE OF THE ELECTRIC ELECTRICAL ISSUES, THEY HAVE THE AIR CONDITIONING ISSUES.
THESE ISSUES ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED PROPERLY BY SIDE'S CONSTRUCTION.
I DON'T SEE WHY YOU PEOPLE CAN FORM YOUR OWN ASSOCIATION.
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JOINT BACK SAKE OF CLARITY.THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAS SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORITY.
WE UNDERSTAND AND AUTHORITY THROUGH THE CODE, THE NEWBORN CODE OF ORDINANCE.
AND THAT IS THE FULL BREADTH OF WHAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO.
DOES THE APPLICANT CHECK THE BOXES, SUCH THAT THEY SATISFIED REQUIREMENTS, BUT THE NEW BERN MANGANESE THAT'S THE CASE.
THAT'S WHERE OUR DISCUSSION BEGINS AND ENDS ANY CONCERNS, QUESTIONS, GRIEVANCES ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT THERE ARE RESOURCES BOTH LOCALLY AND THE COURT SYSTEM AT THE STATE LEVEL.
IT MAY BE IN THE ROOM TONIGHT.
WE'VE HAD OUR PUBLIC WORKS DIRECTOR.
SO IF YOUR QUESTIONS ABOUT STREETS, CULVERTS, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS, THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS HERE AND HAS A STAFF TO TRY TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.
TO THE EXTENT THE CITY HAS THE ABILITY TO YOU HAVE THE CITY ENGINEER HERE.
SO THERE ARE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WATERLOO HE'S, HE'S IN THE BEST POSITION TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION AS TO THAT CONCERN.
YOU HAVE THE CITY MANAGER HERE, UM, WHO IS, UH, A PERSON THAT HAD, IT WAS VERY KNOWLEDGEABLE TO HELP TRY TO FEEL THOSE CONCERNS, BUT THE EXPECTATION THAT THIS PARTICULAR BOARD CAN ADDRESS ANY OF THESE PARTICULAR GRIEVANCES, UM, WE WERE CONSTRAINED BY OUR STATUTORY AND, AND COORDINATES AT BARD.
YOU'VE GIVEN US SOME GOOD NAMES TO FOLLOW THROUGH.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONCERN AND OKAY.
THIS, THE MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ARE CONCERNED ABOUT IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE YOU STILL HAVE ABOUT ONE MINUTE?
IF A MEMBER OF YOUR BOARD HAS BEEN THREATENED TO BE ARRESTED, IF THEY DIDN'T VOTE TO GO FORWARD.
AND WE HAVE LEADERSHIP HERE IN THE CITY, HOW HAS THAT BEEN CONDONED? IF THIS IN FACT IS FACTUAL, WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN SAYS, WHY IS THIS NOT BEING INVESTIGATED? I MEAN, THIS IS 2022, ALL RIGHT, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE DEALING WITH THIS.
UM, IF THAT, WHAT HAPPENS TO A MEMBER OF THIS COMMISSION? IMAGINE THE APPROACH THAT RESIDENTS WHO HAVE ISSUES AND CONCERNS ABOUT THE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE NOT WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF THIS COMMITTEE.
I SAY YOU DON'T MAKE ANY STUFF YOU'RE MAKING SUPPOSITIONS NOW DO NOT MAKE THEM STUFF.
I BELIEVE ALL OF THEM AND ASKED HER WHAT, LIKE YOU SAID, THANKS, MAN.
HAVE A MEAL FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING THEM.
I WANT TO SAY IS ONE OR TWO THINGS.
COUNTY LINE ROAD IS NOT GOING TO BE PAID ANYTIME SOON, THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN HAS DONE EVERYTHING THAT WE CAN DO TO GET COUNTY LINE ROAD PAY.
AND IT'S JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.
I ASKED THE CITY ATTORNEY, CAN WE MAKE THE SIDE'S COMPANY PAID THE ROAD? CITY ATTORNEY SAYS, NO, WE CAN'T MAKE THEM DO ANYTHING WITH THAT ROAD LIKE THAT.
IF YOU HAVE WATER ISSUES, LIKE I'VE HEARD SO MANY TIMES THAT THE WATER PRESSURE IS SO LOW.
KYLE JORDAN HUGHES, JORDAN TOLD ME THE OTHER DAY, HE'S HAD ONE COMPLAINT IN THE PAST YEAR OR TWO.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT A COMPLAIN ABOUT WATER PRESSURE, THAT'S THE PERSON IN CALL.
IF YOU'VE GOT BUILDING CODE ISSUES AND STUFF LIKE THAT, CALL IT THE BUILDING INSPECTION OFFICE BUILDING INSPECTORS TOLD ME, UM, WHAT WAS IT? ONE OR ONE OR TWO COMPLAINTS IN THE PAST YEAR, ONE COMPLAINT THE PAST YEAR YOU'VE GOT THE COMPLAINT.
IF YOU'VE GOT THESE ISSUES, SOMEBODY WILL LISTEN TO YOU.
YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE WHAT THEY SAY, BUT THEY'LL AT LEAST HE'LL LISTEN TO YOU.
SO IT'S, IT'S MR. SIDE'S JOB TO GO IN AND BUILD HOMES.
UH, IT'S, IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE THERE TO ALLOW HIM TO BUILD THESE HOMES.
MY CONCERN IS NUMBER ONE, FIRE PRESSURE.
JORDAN HAS TAKEN CARE OF THAT.
THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER WITH DOMESTIC PRESSURES.
IF YOU GOT A PROBLEM TAKING A SHOWER, YOU NEED TO CALL THE CITY WATER DEPARTMENT.
IF YOUR HOUSE GETS DON'T BUY IT, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH ORDER THERE TO DO SOMETHING.
AND THEN THAT'S ANOTHER ISSUE THAT'S GOING TO BE RESOLVED.
AND SO FAR, JORDAN HAS SHORTED ME THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT TYPE OF PRESSURE PROBLEMS YET.
UM, COUNTY LINE ROAD, THE ONLY OTHER THING I CAN SAY ABOUT IT IS CONTACT YOUR LEGISLATORS.
THEY'RE THE ONLY ONES THAT CAN PUT PRESSURE ON THE DMT TO MAKE THAT ROAD GET SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE D A T WILL TELL YOU THAT IT'S
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THE US PARCEL SERVICE THAT DOESN'T WANT THE ROAD PAY, BUT THE ROAD IS NOT IMPROVED.I CAN TELL YOU THAT I TRAVELED THAT ROAD ALL THE TIME.
AND SOMETIMES AFTER THE RAIN IS LIKE, I'M NOW A WASHBOARD YOU A FIRE TRUCK ONLY IF IT WAS ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY WOULD DRIVE THAT ROAD.
UH, THE OTHER, ALL OF THE OTHER EMERGENCY VEHICLES ARE GOING TO DRIVE RIGHT THROUGH THAT RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS.
AND I'D LIKE TO MEET FOR THE LITTLE ARISE PEOPLE OUT FRONT WHEN WE GET READY TO LEAVE HERE FOR JUST ONE MINUTE, IF YOU DON'T MIND, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRMAN FOR ALLOWING THEM TO SPEAK.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE
[3.A. Discussion of Land Use Plan update. ]
AND LISTEN TO ALL BUSINESS ITEM A IS DISCUSSION OF LAND USE PLANS? SO ARE YOU READY? OKAY.I'LL GO AHEAD AND TAKE OVER FOR THIS ITEM.
UH, AS WE ALL KNOW, WE ALL JUST RECEIVED THIS PLAN THIS MORNING, UM, AND WE'RE INTENDING THAT, UM, WE'LL JUST GO AND HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE PLANS THAT WE'RE ALL KIND OF AT LEAST ON PAGE ONE, UH, UH, AS TO WHAT THIS PLAN IS TELLING US AND WHAT IT SAYS.
AND THEN, UH, WE HOPE TO GET THE MOTION FOR A SPECIAL MEETING, UH, SOMETIME EARLY NEXT WEEK, MONDAY, TUESDAY, WEDNESDAY, UH, SO THAT WE CAN ACTUALLY HAVE A MORE THOROUGH AND INFORMED DISCUSSION ABOUT IT.
UM, AND THEN PERHAPS, UH, EMOTION FOR SOME KIND OF RECOMMENDATION OF THEM.
UM, AND SO WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START WITH A BRIEF OVERVIEW.
SO, UM, JUST KIND OF GO THROUGH WITH, UH, VARIOUS, UH, CHAPTERS BEGINNING, UM, IN THE INTRODUCTION I WANT TO POINT OUT, UM, UH, THEY INDICATE THAT, UH, THEY REFERENCED THE OLD PLAN, THE 2010 REGIONAL PLAN, AND THEY END THE THIRD PARAGRAPH.
THEY DO STATE, BUT THIS IS A PARTIAL UPDATE OF THE REGIONAL LAND USE PLAN.
AND IT'S FOCUSING ON KEY LOCATIONS REQUIRING UPDATE, UH, AND PRESERVATION TO MEET THE COMMUNITY'S NEEDS.
AND THIS UPDATE WILL COMPLY WITH THIS.
THE RECENTLY ENACTED 101 60 D GENERAL STATUTES, AND THAT IS THE PROVISION THAT'S REQUIRING THIS TO BE ADOPTED BY THE END OF JUNE.
SO, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THEY'VE, UH, TAKEN A LOOK AT THE OLD, THE CURRENT PLAN AND, UH, THEY INTEND TO PROVIDE A CONCENTRATED REVIEW OF KEY AREAS AND ZONES REQUIRING A CLOSER LOOK AS TO THE SUITABILITY OF THE PRESENT LAND USE PROGRAM FOR EACH FOCUS ZONE.
WE HAVE ALSO TO NOTE IMPORTANTLY, AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE, UM, THEY STATE THAT, UH, CHAPTER ONE 60 D ENUMERATES 10 CONTENTS REQUIRED FROM LAND USE PLANS, BUT THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT REQUIRED.
UM, EACH ONE OF THESE MAY BE INCLUDED IN A LAND USE PLAN AS THE ACTUAL LANGUAGE OF THE STATUTE.
SO, UM, IF YOU SEE SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S MEETING THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT IS NOT PROVIDED, YOU CAN PROBABLY NOT WORRY ABOUT THAT TOO MUCH.
UM, BUT, UM, THESE ARE BASICALLY GUIDELINES OR WHAT COULD OR SHOULD BE IN THE PLAN, UH, AND THEY ENUMERATE 10 DIFFERENT ITEMS THERE.
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THEN IN THE BLUE MAY REITERATE THAT THE, UH, UM, THE KEY FINDINGS OR PURPOSES OF THIS STUDY ARE TOO FULL TO EVALUATE THE SUITABILITY OF THE FOCUS AREAS FOR THEIR INTENDED FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.AND SECONDLY, UH, UH, TO RECOMMEND ALTERNATIVE POLICIES, UH, AND OR LOCATIONS TO FOCUS ON, RIGHT, WE'LL GO THROUGH THE COMMUNITY PROFILE.
THIS CHAPTER HERE, BASICALLY IT GIVES YOU SOME GOOD DATA AND BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT, UM, THE CHARACTER OF NEW BERN, UH, UM, IN VARIOUS, UM, CATEGORIES, UH, INCLUDING, UH, POPULATION AND DEMOGRAPHICS, THE HOUSING PROFILE, THE REGIONAL LOCAL ECONOMY, UH, HERITAGE TOURISM VALUE.
UH, AND THEN THE FIRST MAP SHOWS A REGIONAL OVERVIEW.
UM, THEN THE THIRD CHAPTER STARTS WITH EXISTING CONDITIONS AND, UH, SOME ISSUES AND OPPORTUNITIES, BUT THEN IT STARTS WITH ZONING AND THEY POINT OUT WITH UNDER ZONING AND THE BLUE, UH, HIGHLIGHTED TEXTS, UH, LIKE MOST AMERICAN CITIES OUTSIDE OUTSIDE OF THE HISTORIC DOWNTOWN NEWBURN IS A RELATIVELY SPRAWLING, LOW DENSITY CITY.
UH, THE ZONING IS LARGELY SINGLE USE IN SOME, AND DESPITE SOME RECENT CHANGES TO ALLOW FOR SOME MODERATELY DENSER DEVELOPMENT BUILDING PERMIT RECORDS SHOW THAT THE OVERWHELMING MAJORITY OF NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE CITY IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL.
THEN THE NEXT SERIES OF MAPS BASICALLY SHOW, UM, DOCUMENT THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, FIRST OF ALL, CITYWIDE, AND THEN FOR THE THREE FOCUS AREAS, BUT HAVE THREE FOCUS AREAS ARE THE MLK BOULEVARD FOCUS AREA, THE NC 43 FOCUS AREA, AND THEN THE U S 70 FOCUS AREA.
OF COURSE, YOU GUYS ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE ZONING.
UM, AND THEN IT GOES INTO THE CURRENT LAND USE.
SO, UH, DESPITE THE ZONING, THE LAND IS USED FOR CERTAIN PURPOSES.
AND SO THEY HAVE THAT, UM, SHOWN HERE AGAIN, CITYWIDE, AND THEN FOR EACH OF THE VARIOUS, UH, FOCUS AREAS, BROWN BROWN IS RESIDENTIAL, THE DIFFERENT SHADES THAT ARE RECREATIONAL, I THINK, UM, THAT'S OWNING, THAT'S ALL ZONING, RIGHT? SO THOSE ARE ALL EMBARRASSED ZONING DISTRICTS.
SO YOU THINK OF IT, THAT'S HOW OUR ZONING IS.
AND GO AHEAD AND DOWN, GO DOWN TO THE, WHAT THE ACTUAL LAND USE IS.
SO, YEAH, SO THAT'S ALL ZONING.
SO GO HEAD DOWN TO THE NEXT SET OF MAPS.
NOW WE'LL GET INTO THE CURRENT LAND USE.
SO THERE'S A CURRENT LAND USE CITYWIDE AND USING SOMEWHAT THE SAME COLORS, SO YOU CAN KIND OF BEGIN TO COMPARE.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT ONE GOES, THE NEXT ONE GOES INTO EACH STUDY AREA, ALTERNATE, SUCH THAT ONE SIDEWAYS, RIGHT? UH, THAT'S MLK.
THEN THE NEXT ONE IS NC 40 BREAK.
CURRENT LAND USE CAN SEE A LOT OF GREEN IS THE AGRICULTURE.
UH, AND THEN THE BROWN IS, UH, RESIDENTIAL.
THE BLUE IS ALL COMMERCIAL AND THIS ONE IS COMMERCIAL RECREATION IS SUPINE THE BRIGHT BLUE.
SO THAT'S THE GOLF COURSE THERE, RIGHT? THOSE ARE THE GOLF COURSES OF THE BIG ONES.
UM, BUT THE DARKER BLUE OR MEDIUM BLUE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE ARCH AREA, THAT WOULD BE THE COMMERCIAL AREA COMMERCIAL
SO, UH, THEN THE NEXT CHAPTER IS ON, IS ON EMPLOYMENT AND THEN IDENTIFIES THE, UM, VARIOUS, UH, DATA ABOUT EMPLOYMENT THERE.
BUT THE NEXT PAGE, UM, GOES TO, UH, IT SHOWS THE LOCATION OF THE TOP 18 FOR THE LARGEST 18, UM, EMPLOYERS IN THE CITY, INCLUDING IN THE LITTLE INSET AT THE BOTTOM ACTUALLY INCLUDES.
UM, SO IT'S IN THE AREA, RIGHT.
EMPLOYMENT THEN OBVIOUSLY IS AFFECTED BY CHERRY CHERRY POINT DOWN THERE.
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SO, UM, THEN THE NEXT ONE IS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.WE DO HAVE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, BUT, UH, SO I MEAN, THERE MAY BE ROOM FOR IMPROVEMENT AND THAT'S WHY THE PARK COULD BE WHITE.
SO THERE'S A BUNCH OF POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL OF THESE.
SO, UM, SO THE NEXT PAGE IS, STARTS THE ANALYSIS OF THE, OF THIS, UM, OF THE FORD FOCUS OR THE THREE FOCUS AREAS.
UH, AND THEN THE MAPS FOR THOSE I GOT, I'M EXPECTING, YOU'LL BE, YOU'LL BE READING ALL THESE I'M.
SO, UM, WE'RE JUST ORIENTING OURSELVES PAGE ONE HERE AND THEN THE NEXT, UH, AT THE END OF THAT ONE SINGLE PAGES AT 33.
SO THIS WAS PROBABLY A VERY INTERESTING FOR YOU GUYS, UM, BUT UH, MENTIONED THESE VARIOUS FACTORS THAT, UM, USED TO DETERMINE DEVELOPABLE LAND, ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS, PHYSICAL INFRASTRUCTURE, AND UTILITIES, TRANSPORTATION, UH, EMPLOYMENT, AND QUALITY OF LIFE INFRASTRUCTURE.
THEN THE NEXT PAGE IS THE MAP GOING DOWN, UH, AND THAT SHOWS THE THREE, UM, THREE FOCUS AREAS AGAIN, BUT, UH, WHAT'S SHOWN THEN IN THE BLUE, UM, LIKE, UM, PROPERTIES THAT ARE BLUE INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
UM, THOSE ARE SELECTED FOR THE FOLLOWING ATTRIBUTES.
UM, THERE, UH, PARCELS WITH NO BUILDING IMPROVEMENTS, THEY'RE WITHIN 50 FEET OF AN NCD OT ROAD AND WITHIN 50 FEET OF THE NEW BURN WATER SERVICE AREA AND ARE LOCATED ON SOILS RATED AS SUITABLE FOR SMALL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT.
SO THAT'S HOW THEY, UM, SORTED ALL THOSE.
I NOTICED THERE WAS TWO CEMETERIES INCLUDED IN THAT.
SO, UH, MAYBE SOME ADJUSTMENTS MADE CAN BE MADE, BUT, UH, THEN THE NEXT MAP JUST SHOWS THE, UH, UH, VARIOUS INSTITUTIONS IN THE AREA.
AND THEN THE NEXT PAGE, UM, A SMALL SHORT SUMMARY OF THE SUITABILITY, UH, ONLY A LIMITED AMOUNT OF LAND IS CONSIDERED DEVELOP A POLE UNDER THE METRICS EVALUATED.
THE BULK OF THAT LAND WITHIN NEW PROPER IS LOCATED IN THE U S 70 FOCUS AREA WHILE THE VAST MAJORITY OF DUBBO DEVELOPABLE LAND IN NEWBURN IS TECHNICALLY IN THE NEWBURN ETJ AND NOT WITHIN THE CITY PROPER, ALL THAT SAID THERE ARE SOME CONSIDERATIONS GIVEN THE AVAILABLE DATA REDEVELOPMENT OF ALREADY BUILT PROPERTIES IS DIFFICULT TO CONSIDER ONLY PROPERTY THAT WAS IDENTIFIED AS UNBUILT WAS CONSIDERED FOR THAT.
AND OTHER PARCELS THAT WERE EXCLUDED FOR ENVIRONMENTAL FACTORS MAY ALSO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO BE DEVELOPED ON WITH REMEDIATION OR RELIEF FROM REGULATIONS.
SO, UM, THEN THE NEXT STARTS TO GET TO THE POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO HERE IT STARTS WITH TRANSPORTATION.
THERE'S A PAGE AND A HALF ON THAT.
THE NEXT ONE IS, UM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EMPLOYMENT.
I'M SORRY, ONE PAGE ON TRANSPORTATION, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND EMPLOYMENT STARTS AT THE BOTTOM OF THAT FIRST PAGE.
UH, AND WE HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4 OF THOSE FIVE OF THOSE, UM, INFRASTRUCTURE AND UTILITIES IS NOTHING.
THEY HAVE NONE, NO IMPROVEMENTS SUGGESTED FOR HOUSING.
THEY HAVE 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 STRANGE NUMBERS.
UM, AND THEN, UH, THE NEXT POINT IS ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND THEY HAD THE NARRATIVE AT THE BEGINNING AND THEN, UH, SEVEN, EIGHT DIFFERENT ACTIONS, NINE, 10 DIFFERENT ACTIONS, 11, 12, ACTUALLY 13, 14, 15 DIFFERENT, UM, POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THAT.
LASTLY, THEN PARKS RECREATION, OPEN SPACE, AND THEY JUST HAVE TITLES FOR FOUR OF THEM.
SO LASTLY HAVE A PAGE, THAT'S IT.
SO, UM, THIS HAS TO BE APPROVED AND ADOPTED
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WHATEVER WE WANT TO USE BY JULY WARREN, IS THAT, OR JUNE 30, IS THAT CORRECT? IN VERDICT A PLAN, I'M SORRY.HOW MUCH OF THIS HAS ACTUALLY BEEN CHANGED OVER THE LAST ONE IS WE DON'T KNOW YET FRIDGE DOES THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOW IN AN MPO AS OPPOSED TO NORTHFIELD EFFECTIVE RESTROOM, BECAUSE I KNOW NPO IS REQUIRED TO DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.
AND WAS THIS 2010, THE NORTHFIELD NPL, UH, ALRIGHT.
THAT WAS RIGHT ABOUT THAT SAME TIME.
AND THE OTHER CONCERN I HAVE IS THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS TALKING ABOUT MAJOR CHANGES WITH THE FAJ, WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO BE ENCOURAGING MORE AND MORE MULTIPLE DWELLING UNITS, AS OPPOSED TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND, UH, I DON'T HAVE, THIS IS BEING TALKED ABOUT RIGHT NOW IN DC.
SO WE MIGHT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT NOW UNTIL ACTUALLY BECOME AN ACTIVE.
UM, BUT, UM, THERE ARE THOSE SUPPOSED TO BE MAJOR CHANGES IN A SINGLE FAMILY WITH ALL OF THOSE CONCERNS.
AND OF COURSE, AND ALSO WITH THE LAND USE WHERE WE GO INTO RESIDENTIAL IS, AND THAT'S ON WHERE SOMETHING CAN BE PLUGGED IN AS FAR AS LIKE WHAT WE'RE FACING RIGHT NOW WITH BLUE WATER LIES.
DON'T WE WANT SOME NEW LANGUAGE IN THERE SO THAT WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONTROL AS TO SAY YAY.
AND THEY SAID TO JUST CHECK THE BOXES, LIKE TO BE SOME GUIDELINES OR SOMETHING IN THERE WE CAN ADD, BECAUSE IF YOU WAIT UNTIL LATER, THERE WON'T BE NO MONEY.
AND I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR ME TO DISCUSS WITH YOU ALL THE FRUSTRATIONS YOU'VE HAD WITH TRYING TO GET THINGS LIKE THAT PAST AND, AND MAYBE YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON WHY IT DIDN'T.
UM, BUT, UM, UH, AND SO THERE MAY BE SOME, DEPENDING ON WHAT THOSE, ALL THOSE THINGS ARE, UH, THERE MAY BE SOME WAYS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT WAS, BUT LET'S JUST SAY MAYBE, UH, THE ALDERMAN ALSO FELT LIKE THEIR HANDS WERE TIED FOR WHATEVER REASON.
I DIDN'T HEAR ANY OF THAT DISCUSSION, BUT, UH, MAYBE THE LAND USE PLAN CAN ACTUALLY PROVIDE A WAY TO UNTIE THEIR HANDS.
UM, SO TALKING ABOUT WHAT MARTIN IS SAYING, UM, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE ONCE THIS IS ONCE WE STAMP THIS AND YOU KNOW, AND IT'S DONE, IS THIS A, IS THIS A LIVING DOCUMENT OR IS IT ON THE SHELF? AND THAT'S IT, THAT'S WHAT WE GOT
THEN YOU'RE GOING TO GET THE DOLLARS THAT YOU NEED TO MAKE CHANGES.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S GOING TO BE A DISCUSSION THAT WE'LL HAVE, IT CAN BE AMENDED AND MY OWN THING.
AND THAT WAS AMENDED IN THE 10 YEARS FROM 2007, THEY PROBABLY KNOCKED ON GET AROUND SOME OF THE PRESSING, WELL, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WILL BE REQUESTING ON THE STAFF SIDE IS WE WILL BE REQUESTING THAT THEY ADD A REFERENCE, UH, TO THE RESILIENCY PLAN, UH, TO, UH, INCLUDE IT IN THE, THIS DOCUMENT BY REFERENCE.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT ALONE WILL ADD A LOT OF MEAT.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY RESILIENCY PLAN.
SO THE RESILIENCE AND HAZARD MITIGATION PLAN THAT WAS RECENTLY ADOPTED BY THE ALDERMAN.
UM, I CAN SHOW YOU SOME AFTERWARDS SHOULD SHOW IT TO YOU AFTERWARDS.
UM, NO, IT IS JUST A CITY PLAN.
IT'S NOT A LEADING JERRY OR COUNTY NO.
SO, UM, IT WAS AN AREA WIDE PLAN, UM, RELATED TO FLOODS AND OTHER HAZARDS.
SO HOW MUCH TIME DO WE HAVE TO STUDY THIS AND MAKE A DECISION, ALL EJ, WHAT'S OUR LAST DATE THAT WE CAN PASS THAT TO THE BOARD BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE TO GET IT ON THEIR AGENDA.
SO WE'RE HOPING THAT IF YOU, UM, UH, DISCUSS THIS AT YOUR NECK AT A SPECIAL MEETING IN ABOUT A WEEK THAT, UM, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO HAVE IT READY FOR YOU TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
IT DOESN'T GIVE US ANY TIME TO REALLY, IF YOU HAVE TO GET IT READY FOR US, THAT GIVES US WELL, NO.
SO WE'RE GONNA LET YOU LOOK AT THIS AS IT IS.
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UM, AND THEN A DAY OR TWO AFTER YOUR NEXT MEETING, SAY FOR EXAMPLE, ON CONDITION, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD RECOMMEND THIS ON CONDITION, THIS, THAT, AND THE OTHER THING.SO LOOKING AT A THING, I BELIEVE THAT THREE UTILITIES, NO, CAUSE NO CHANGES RECOMMENDED.
I HAVE THE 2010, BUT LOOK AT THAT.
IF THEY DIDN'T RECOMMEND ANY CHANGES, THEN EITHER.
SO MAYBE THE 2013 YEAR OLD BOY.
SO, AND SO AT THIS POINT, YOU NEED US TO MAKE A MOTION THAT SET UP AN AD HOC COMMITTEE, LOOK AT THIS I WILL BE TOTALLY OUT OF COMMISSION ALL OF NEXT WEEK, ALL IN, CAN YOU SET IT UP? SO I COULD PROBABLY BE, THAT WOULD BE A REMOTE MEANING THAT REQUIRES PARTICULAR NOTICES.
IN SEVEN DAYS, AVAILABILITY, 13, 14, 15, I'M IN RALEIGH, LEGISLATIVE DAYS.
UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE TO PICK A THIRD TEST ON SUNDAY INFORMED I CAN DO THE 15TH, BUT I CAN'T DO 13 AND 14.
I JUST CAN'T DO THE FIRST TWO DAYS.
SO THE 17TH WOULD BE ON A FRIDAY.
SO WE WILL HAVE NO TIME TO DO ANY OF THAT CHANGES.
THEN YOU'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THIS AND DECIDE, CAN WE, CAN WE LIVE WITH THIS
THEN WE CAN ROLL WITH THEM, DEAL WITH IT.
IF YOU DO THAT, THEN THE CHANGES THAT WE MIGHT WANT IN IT, WON'T BE IN THERE THAT UNTAPPED HANDS WITH SOME OF THE PROBLEMS WITH SAYING, I DON'T KNOW, I, WE TO WRITE ALL THE LANGUAGE TO GIVE US CERTAIN KINDS OF RIGHTS, ANYHOW, IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, I KIND OF, I MEAN, I FEEL STRONGLY THAT THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO TAKE THE DOCUMENT AND TRY TO TRY TO INCORPORATE SOME CHANGES OR AT LEAST GO THROUGH THE LANGUAGE BECAUSE I MEAN, I KNOW HOW THEIR STAY THAT WELL.
AND I THINK THAT'S JUST, I, I REALLY SAY THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO AT LEAST ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES, YOU KNOW, IN THE LANGUAGE AND THE WAY THIS THING HAS SET UP THIS, IT DOES THE, UH, THE CITY ATTORNEY.
DO YOU THINK THAT WE HAD THE TIME TO MAKE A LEGAL CHANGES TO THE LAND USE? THIS BOARD WOULD LIKE TO HAVE? WELL, I ECHO THE SENTIMENT FROM THE CITY MANAGER WHO PRESENT.
HE HAS INDICATED THAT IF THIS BODY WOULD LIKE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES OR AMENDMENTS, THAT YOU CAN HAVE TIME TO DO THAT.
AND THAT WILL GALVANIZE OUR RESOURCES AS TO TRY TO SUPPORT THEM.
I WILL REITERATE, HOWEVER, THAT ONCE A PLAN IS ADOPTED, IT'S NOT EXTRA IN STONE THAT AMENDMENTS CAN BE MADE TO THE CLIENT AFTER JULY ONE.
AND THIS WEEK, YOU SAID YOU LIKE THOSE MEN MUCH, BUT IF THE BOARD OF ALL OF THEM SAYS NO, AND THAT'S AN EITHER CIRCUMSTANCE, WHETHER TO START WITH, WE'RE MORE LIKELY TO GET THAT MAY BE.
BUT, UH, TO, TO ANSWER THE VERY NARROW QUESTION, CITY MANAGER AND ASSURANCES, THAT YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THOSE CHANGES.
AND I'LL ALSO SAY THIS, UH, FOSTER YOUTH.
SOME OF YOU HADN'T MET, YOU KNOW, OUR, OUR BACKS ARE AGAINST THE WALL AND THIS, WE HAVE TO, THE BOARD OF ALVIN HAT HAVE TO APPROVE THIS.
UM, IF THEIR FINAL MEETING IN JUNE, UH, THIS HAS TO BE IN PLACE BY JULY.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A LIVING, BREATHING DOCUMENT.
WE WILL BE CHANGING THAT, THAT, THAT IS FROM THE CITY MANAGER STATING THAT WE WILL HAVE TO FOSTER WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IF WE DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND APPROVE THIS THING THE WAY IT IS WITH THE PROVISO THAT WE CAN THEN NOT AT OUR LEISURE, BUT IN A TIMELY FASHION, MAKE JAKE MAKE SUGGESTIONS FOR CHANGES SO THAT YOU HAVE TIME TO GET THIS STUFF DONE.
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A DOCUMENT THAT IS NOT A FINAL VERSION OF WHAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN WILL SEE.THAT'S THE FIRST THING I'LL TELL YOU.
THERE THERE'S INCOMPLETE THINGS IN THERE.
SO I REALLY PREFER THIS BOARD TO BE ABLE TO SEE THE FINAL VERSION OR WHAT IS THE FINAL VERSION MIGHT BE AVAILABLE WHEN WE DECIDED TO GIVE WELL, OH, THIS IS A DRAFT RIGHT NOW IS DRAFTED.
AND I THINK IF YOU RAN IN TO HAVE ANOTHER MEETING AND COME BACK, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT THIS PLAN, THIS EXISTING PLAN AND COME BACK A AS DATE, EVERYONE CAN AGREE UPON AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS ARE REALISTIC THAT COULD BE PUT IN THE LAND USE PLAN.
THEN WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THAT OUR CONSULTANT IS ON THE ZOOM CALL WITH HIS NEXT MEETING AND GETS THOSE CHANGES ON THERE.
AND THEN WE CAN TAKE IT TO THE BOARD.
YOU HAVE TO HAVE THIS TO GO HOARD OF ALL.
IF WE MADE ON THE 17TH, WE WILL HAVE IT.
WE WILL, WE WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE BOARD THE FIRST OF THE FOLLOWING WEEK.
SO THE CONSULTANTS ARE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO OVER THE WEEKEND, BUT IT COULDN'T BE DONE.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? I THINK, UM, DID YOU SAY YOU COULDN'T DO THE 17TH? SO YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE OF TWO 17.
SO YOU CAN'T GET THE 16 PETER 16TH.
I HAVE COUNTERACTION ANDREW, SO, WELL, WE'LL BE SO SET FRIDAYS.
THE ONLY DAY THAT WE GOT THE CALL, I CAN MAKE IT EXACTLY.
OH, I HAVE SPECIAL GLASSES ON STAR TREK, UM, FOUR DAYS BEFORE THAT IMPORTANT TO, TO SIT AT HOME AND DO NOTHING, BUT THAT'S GOOD.
CAUSE YOUR EYES WILL BE SO TIRED.
UH, IN BETWEEN WHAT WE CAN DO IS WE CAN GRIP EMAIL CHANGES.
SO WHEN WE GET TO THE SET DRESSING, WE HAVE, CAN WE DO IT ON THE 17TH? YOU GUYS, I PERSONALLY, I MEAN, I DON'T CARE.
I'M THINKING THAT WE SHOULD DO IT SOMETIME IN THE DAY BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO TAKE A WHILE TO GET THIS HAMMERED OUT.
DO WE WANT TO DO WHAT YOUR MORNING? START IN THE MORNING AND GO AS LONG AS WE NEED TO.
CAN WE START IT AT 10 O'CLOCK I DON'T KNOW HOW I FEEL AFTER BEING
I DON'T KNOW THAT I'LL BE ON MY GAME.
VERY CLOSE OVER TO PICK YOU UP.
THAT'S 10 O'CLOCK WHICH ONE? 10 O'CLOCK ON THE 17TH.
AT THIS POINT, I'D LIKE TO INTRODUCE MORE MOTION THAT THIS BOARD MEETS ON THE SEVENTH, 10:00 AM FOR THE LAND USE ORDINANCE CHANGES OR PLAN BY PLAN WHERE AT THIS LOCATION WE HAVE TO INTRODUCE A MOTION FOR THIS MEETING AT THIS POINT.
THE LAND USE PLAN, UH, WORKING SECTION THE SECTION FOR THE 17TH, 10:00 AM AT THIS LOCUS.
UM, AND THE TOP, THE LAND USE PLANNING SEVEN.
IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ROLL CALL EPISODE THREE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT COMES BEFORE THE STORE? YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS THIS MY LAST TIME BEING WITH THE BOARD? I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY WHO WAS COURTEOUS TO ME ALL THE TIME.
I ENJOYED WORKING WITH ALL MY COLLEAGUES HERE AND I WISH YOU WELL, THANK YOU.
SORRY THAT WE DIDN'T GO THAT AT THIS POINT, THAT LIKE, THEN WE'RE OUT OF HERE.