Jul 20, 2022 Historic Preservation Commission

ALRIGHT.

TO TELL THE TRUTH, THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE, AND THEN PLEASE SIGN YOUR NAME OR YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS YOU ALL WERE BEING VERY SOUTHERN GENTLEMEN WITH THE SIGNING.

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I WILL GO OVER THE PROCESS THAT WE USE, BUT I'LL, BEFORE I EVEN DO THAT, I WANT TO SEE IF THERE ARE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE AGENDA TODAY.

WE'VE GOT 1, 2, 3, 4 ITEMS, AS FAR AS WE KNOW ARE ALL FOUR OF THOSE PEOPLE COMING ARE, ARE FOUR OF THOSE PEOPLE.

HERE ARE THE BIKESHARE PEOPLE HERE.

R IS CHANGED STREET.

HERE IS 4 0 5 JOHNSON STREET.

HERE IS FEDERAL ALLEY HERE.

YES MA'AM.

SO WE'VE GOT ALL FOUR.

SO WE'RE JUST, WE'RE GOING TO START GOING OVER THAT SO THAT IF SOMEONE IS WAITING FOR PARTICULAR, UH, APPLICATION TO LOOK AT, AND IN ACTUAL FACT IT HAS BEEN DISMISSED.

UM, WE DON'T WANT THEM HAVING TO SIT THROUGH THE WHOLE, UH, EVENING, UNLESS THEY REALLY JUST WANTED TO HEAR ALL THESE APPLICATIONS, WHICH MAYBE SOMEONE DOES, UH, WAITING FOR THAT.

AND THEN IT, IT DOESN'T SHOW UP.

SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE GOING THROUGH THAT.

JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT EVERYBODY HERE FOR THE APPLICATION.

UM, WE ALSO HAVE PEOPLE REPRESENTING, OKAY.

THAT'S AN EXTENSION OF A COA.

AND THEY'RE HERE AS WELL.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO DO IS INTRODUCE A NEW MEMBER TO US SITTING OVER HERE ON MY LEFT, MR. TIM THOMPSON, UM, OVER HERE, HE'S A NEW BOARD MEMBER AND WE HAVE, UH, ONE OTHER NEW BOARD MEMBER WHO'S NOT HERE TONIGHT.

SO JUST TO, TO, TO, TO KNOW WHO TIM WAS AND WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT.

SO WE GOT TO COURT.

SO HERE'S HOW WE'RE GONNA PROCEED TONIGHT.

THE HBC ADMINISTRATOR PROVIDES AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION AND THE APPLICANT OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVE CAN PRESENT THE APPLICATION AS WELL.

IF THEY WANT TO PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS WILL RECEIVE NOTICE OF BEHAVIOR AND CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE, SHOULD THEY WISH TO REBUTTAL AS ALLOWED BY THE APPLICANT AND BY PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS WHO RECEIVE NOTICE OTHERS WHO CAN JUSTIFY THAT THEY HAVE RELEVANT INFORMATION AND WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED, CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE.

THE HBC ADMINISTRATOR PRESENTS THE STAFF'S FINDINGS AND THE RECOMMENDATIONS THE APPLICANT OR THE REPRESENTATIVE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A FINAL COMMENT ON THEIR APPLICATION, SHOULD THEY WISH TO DO SO? THE COMMISSIONERS HERE WILL THEN DISCUSS THE EVIDENCE AND MAY ASK FOR CLARIFICATION FROM THE APPLICANT OR THE PRESENTER.

THE CHAIRMAN WILL CALL FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY THE APPLICATION WAS STANDING, UH, WAS STATED.

UH, FINDINGS OF FACT, THE MOTION IS DISCUSSED BY THE COMMISSIONS.

THE CHAIRMAN CALLS FOR A VOTE ON THE MOTION BY THE COMMISSION ACOA CAN BE APPROVED DISAPPROVED.

IT CAN BE APPROVED WITH CONDITIONED, OR AS I SAID, IT CAN BE, IT CAN ALSO BE CONTINUED.

SO WE'LL GO NOW TO THE FIRST APPLICANT AND THAT'S THE BIKE CHAIR PERSON, THAT USER.

SO WE WILL GO NOW.

SO WE'VE DONE ALL THE INTRODUCTORY THING.

[4.B. Bike Share Stations in Various Locations – to include installation of bicycle docking stations in the Primary AVCs at 300 E. Front St., 504 S. Front St., and 902 Pollock St..]

SO WE WILL LET, UM, MATT GIVE US AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION.

THESE, UH, YOUR SIGNATURE AND THE OWNER'S AUTHORIZATION.

UM, UNDER SCREENS, YOU SEE, THIS IS THE APPLICATION FOR ONE OF THE LOCATIONS FOR THIS PROJECT.

THIS PROJECT HAS THREE LOCATIONS THAT ARE SUITABLE FOR THIS EVENING.

UM, THE FIRST ONE IS 300 PIECE IN FRONT STREET.

THE SECOND ONE IS 5 0 4 SOUTH FRONT STREET.

AND THE THIRD ONE IS 9 0 2 AND 9 0 4 PALLEX STREET.

SO HERE'S THE APPLICATION FOR THE FIRST SITE, THE 300 EAST STREET, WHICH IS ALSO KNOWN AS THE GALLEYS STORE, UH, DOWN, UH, ON EAST FRONT STREET, THE GAS STATION STORE THERE.

UM, I HAVE SIGNED THE APPLICATION ACTUALLY DOWN MY DESK, UH, HERE IN THE ROOM.

UH, AND THIS IS THE OWNER'S AUTHORIZATION.

UH, THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE AREA WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE INSTALLED.

UH, INSTEAD OF THE BYPRODUCT THAT'S, THERE, THERE WILL BE THESE, UH, LIKE STATIONS, UH, PORTS, WE'LL SEE IN A SECOND, WHAT THAT MEANS.

UH, AND THEN THE NEXT APPLICATION FOR 5 0 4 SOUTH PRINCE STREET.

AND THE INFORMATION IS THE SAME ON ALL OF

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UH, HERE'S PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE EXISTING CORNER, UH, WHEREAS THE, THE STATIONS ARE TO BE INSTALLED.

AND THEN THIS WAS THEIR, THE LAST TIME WITH THE LOCATION HERE SHOWN, UM, UH, THESE BLACK MARKS.

UH, MAYBE YOU CAN SEE THEM IF YOU CAN.

UH, AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME MORE ILLUSTRATIONS LATER, UH, THAT THE APPLICANT BROUGHT WITH HIM THIS EVENING, UH, AND THEN 9 0 4 POLLOCK STREET AND SINE BETA.

AND THERE AGAIN, WE HAVE THE AND NOW WE HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS OF THAT LOCATION RIGHT HERE AT THIS CORNER OF POLLOCK AND PLEAD STREET.

AND THEN LOOKING UP POLLOCK STREET, IT'S ESSENTIALLY DOWN THE BOTTOM OF THIS, PHOTOGRAPH, THIS PORN.

AND THEN AGAIN, LOOKING BACK THE OTHER DIRECTION ON COLLEGE STREET TOWARDS THE STREET.

SO IT WASN'T, L-SHAPED, UH, LOCATION HERE.

UH, AND THIS IS SHOWN AGAIN WITH SOME PRUNINGS ON THIS BROAD, UH, UH, BLACK LINE SHOWN ON THIS, BUT THEY HAVE SOME MORE HERE.

SO TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, AND THESE ARE SOME OF THE, UH, SOME OF THE INFORMATION FROM THE, UH, PRODUCT LITERATURE.

UH, SO EACH INDIVIDUAL BIKE GETS ONE OF THESE BIKE RACKS.

SO ONE RACK OF ONE BIKE FOR TWO POSTS AND BIKE SLIPS UNDERNEATH PEAS, AND THEY PLUGGED INTO THIS AND THEY LOCKED IN THERE.

UH, SO HERE'S AN IDEA WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UNFORTUNATELY, THERE'S THE OLD BS BEFORE IT WAS OVER THE TOP THAT YOU SEE AS ONE BITE WITH THE TWO POSTS AND THERE'S A CONCRETE PAD AND THE MEAT FOR THE PRICE THAT IS JUST A SHACK, A SHADOW ON THE, THE CONCRETE PAD, UM, SHOWN HERE FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THAT AREA BEHIND US.

AND SO HERE ARE SOME DRAWINGS OF THE STANDARD CONFIGURATIONS FOR THESE PADS AND, AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SOME, UH, PAD SPACE BEHIND THE BICYCLES AND THE TYPICAL SIZE FOR THE ARE THAT THEY'RE 10 FEET FROM THE FRONT OF ACTUALLY BEHIND THE BIKE AND THEN VARIOUS LENGTHS OF THEM, DEPENDING ON HOW MANY OF THESE PATIENTS THEY HAVE, UH, POSING, UH, OH, I BURY THE HATCHET.

THERE'LL BE THIS CONFIGURATION WHERE IT'S ALTERNATING FRONT AND BACK.

SO LET'S SEE.

THE, UH, WHERE THE BE THE APPROXIMATE LOCATION AND THE DOCUMENTATION THAT THE GALLERY'S NOT FULLY DRAWN TO SCALE SHOWING SIX OF THEM.

AND SO WE HAVE JUST ROLLED THEM INTO THE CONCRETE WALLS AND POSSIBLE SCHOOLS LOOK LIKE ANY HIGH SCHOOL.

AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, THE, UH, CNI FORMS FOR ALL OF THESE ZONING AND INSPECTIONS, UH, FORMS WHERE WE'RE ALL THREE OF THEM IN INDICATES THAT A ZONING ADMINISTRATOR HAS SAID THAT THAT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USE ORDINANCE.

AND THOSE SPECIAL USE PERMIT IS REQUIRED.

AND SHE BUILDING INSPECTOR INDICATES THAT IT WILL NOT REQUIRE A PERMIT.

UH, THE COMMENT THERE IS DOING SHORT UNDERGROUND UTILITIES ARE NOT DISTURBED DURING AN INSTALLATION.

UH, AND THEN THE SAME THING FOR THAT WAS FOR 300 EAST FRONT STREET, SAME THING, AND A SEPARATE ONE FOR 902 AND NINE.

AND THEN, UH, UH, I'D LIKE TO NOW PRESENT THE SKETCHES OF APRIL TONIGHT BEFORE WE GET TO THE PROCESS.

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SO THERE'S, YOU'RE, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE SIX, OKAY.

SIX THIS WOULD BE AT THE VERY AMERICAN SITE.

SO IT WOULD BE OVER HERE AT THE CORNER OF VAN, TOP AND SOUTH WE'VE HAD UP TO WELL AT THAT LOCATION.

IT LOOKS LIKE SOME OF THAT LINE IS CROSSING THE SIDEWALK.

DO YOU MEAN TO DO THAT? MAYBE.

SO, UM, IT APPEARS TO BE SHOWING THAT STAGGERED AND OH, OVER THERE.

OH, THIS LOCATION THAT THE DEVICE WILL BE SET AND WILL BE APPARENTLY SIX ON EACH SIDE, SIX ON THE SIDE OR ON THEIR PROPERTY, IN THAT CORNER.

AND SO ESSENTIALLY IN A BIG, LONG ROW, ALONG THE FRESHWATER SITE, THAT'S WHAT THE FRESH WATER SITE, THEY WILL BE INDIVIDUALS.

AND THEY START UP HERE ON THE FLEET STREET SIDE UP TO SEVEN, GOING DOWN THE STREET AND THEN UP TO FIVE, GOING ACROSS ON COLLEGE STREET AND THAT, AND HOW YOU'VE DRAWN IT IS HOW YOU'RE GOING TO DISTRIBUTE THEM.

YES MA'AM.

ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SHOW US ABOUT THESE PICTURES? NO, MA'AM OKAY.

THAT HAS STANDING, DON'T SEE ANYONE, IS THERE ANYONE FROM THE CITY, STATE OR GOVERNMENT BODY OUT IN THE AUDIENCE DON'T SEE IT AS ANY.

SO IS THERE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST FROM ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION, SEEING THAT? ARE THERE ANY ISSUES WITH THE COMPLETENESS OF THE APPLICATION SEEING THAT GOOD? ARE THERE ANY NOTIFIED PROPONENTS OUT IN THE AUDIENCE LET'S SEE ANY, ARE THERE ANY NOTIFIED OPPONENTS IN THE AUDITS? I DON'T SEE ANY, SO THERE'S NO REBUTTAL HERE.

SO, UM, IS THERE ANYBODY WITH RELEVANT EVIDENCE

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THAT CONCLUDES OUR RECOMMENDED.

SO WE'VE COVERED EVERYBODY ELSE WHO MIGHT WANT TO SPEAK.

SO IF WE COULD, UM, HAVE, UH, INFORMATION, SIR, THAT YOU ALL HAVE COME UP WITH WHAT YOUR FINDINGS ARE.

SO, UM, UH, WE DID ONE OF THESE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR EACH OF THE LOCATIONS, BECAUSE THERE WAS SOME, UH, DIFFERENT BACKGROUND INFORMATION.

SO FOR 300 EAST FRONT STREET, UM, WE HAVE A HISTORIC PROPERTY NAME IS IT'S AND THERE IS NO DESCRIPTION OF IT INTERNATIONAL REGISTERING BEFORE YOU AT THE SAME TIME.

UM, SO FOR 300 EAST FRONT STREET PROPOSAL IS TO INCLUDE INSTALLATION REQUESTS, DOCKING STATIONS IN THE PRIMARY.

SO STAFF SUMMITS, ALL INSERT THIS FOR TIMELINES ARE APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION.

OOPS, SORRY.

UH, FOLLOWING GUIDELINES ARE APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR PUBLIC AND OPEN SPACES FOR 22.2 AND FOR METAL 5.3 0.3, THE STATEMENTS OF REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION INSTEAD OF JUDGMENT ARE ONE.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE WATERTOWN DEVELOPMENT PATTERN TO THE PROPOSAL AS A BIKE RACK, LIKE RENTAL, LIKE DOCKING STATIONS, THREE OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDELINES FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.

AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT.

THE PROJECT IS NOT INCLUDING STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE INSTALLATION OR POSSIBLE DOCKING STATIONS IN THE PRIMARY.

THE SECOND 1 0 4 SOUTH PRATT STREET THAT HISTORIC PROPERTY NAME IS FARMERS SUPPLY HOUSE.

IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, NATIONAL REGISTER INVENTORY DESCRIPTION FROM 2003, IT WAS BUILT 1925 BUILDING ONE STORY BRICK, CONTINUOUS DISPLAY WINDOWS, AN ENTRANCE IN THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE CONCRETE BLOCK.

INSIDE ELEVATIONS, A SANDBOX DESCRIPTION, NOT AVAIL, OR AT THE TIME I BREAKFAST, IF YOU WANT THAT, I CAN LOOK IT UP WITH ME.

UH, FOR SOUTH FRONT STREET IS A PROJECT HAS CONCLUDED INSTALLATION OF BICYCLE DOCKING STATIONS, AND THE PRIMARY STAFF SUBMITS THE FOLLOWING STORY.

DISTRICT GUIDELINES, ART CORPORATE TO THIS APPLICATION.

OTHER OPEN SPACES, 2.2 0.2 5.3 STATEMENTS.

THE REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION STAFF JUDGMENT ARE ONE.

THE PROJECT HAS LOOKED INTO THE BIG PET SPATTER PATTERN PROPOSAL AS A BIKER TALKING STATIONS AND PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDELINES FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.

AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY AND FIVE.

THE PROJECT IS NOT SAC RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE THIS ADDITIONAL BIKE PARKING STATIONS IN THE PRIMARY, THE ABC A THIRD LOCATION, 9 0 2 AND 904 POLITICS, THREE HISTORIC PROPERTY NAME IS UNKNOWN.

UH, CONTRIBUTING STATUS IS THE GERMAN, UH, AND NATIONAL REGISTERING.

THE DESCRIPTION WAS NOT AVAILABLE IN SAME WITH SANDBAGS DESCRIPTION.

UH, TO INCLUDE INSTALLATION OF BICYCLE STATIONS IN THE PRIMARY.

ABC ARE APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION PUBLIC AND OPEN SPACES.

2.2 0.2 5.3 0.3 STATEMENTS FOR REASON, BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION.

STAFF ARE ONE, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE OF DEVELOPMENT PATTERN THROUGH THE PROPOSAL IS THE BIKE RACK LIKE MENTAL BIKE TALKING STATIONS, THREE, THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS, RETIREMENTS GUIDELINES FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.

SHE'S BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVISIONS AND COMMENTS.

IMPORTANTLY, FIVE, THE PROJECT IS NOT IN CONVERSE WITH THE TIMELINES.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE INSTALLATION OF BICYCLE DOCUMENTATION IN THE PRIMARY ABC.

UM, ABOUT WHAT KIND OF ZONING CLASSIFICATION THIS WAS.

SO BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD, I KNOW THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION WITH OUR LEGAL ATTORNEY OVER HERE,

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AND IF THERE WERE SOME SPECIFIC TYPE OF DOCUMENTATION THAT WAS NEEDED, HAS THAT BEEN RESOLVED IN WHAT HE HAS ALREADY READ? NO, MA'AM.

I WILL SAY THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME CONTINUED DIALOGUE BETWEEN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT LATE THIS EVENING.

RIGHT.

UM, SO THAT IS A MATTER, THAT'S STILL BEING, UM, UNTANGLED.

IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE AS YOU, IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO APPROVE THE COA TO CONDITIONALLY APPROVE IT AT THE CONDITION THAT THE APPLICANT SHOULD APPLY WITH ANY APP APPLICABLE ZONING REGULATIONS, WHICH WOULD COVER ALL BASES IN THE EVENT THAT THERE ARE, THERE'S A RESOLUTION TO THE MATH THAT YOU'RE SPEAKING OF.

SO IF WE DECIDED TO APPROVE IT, THEN THAT WOULD BE, UM, ONE OF THE CONDITIONS OF THE APPROVAL.

AND THEN YOU WOULD HAVE THE, WHO IS HE GOING TO HAVE TO GET WITH? HE'D GOING TO HAVE TO GET WITH ZONING.

YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING, SIR? YES MA'AM.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PRESENT AT THIS POINT IN TIME? OKAY.

ANYBODY ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME COMMENTS AND IN THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT YOU PROVIDED? UH, IT SPEAKS TO BIKE, LOCATION RECOMMENDATION.

WE RECOMMEND INSTALLING THE BIKES AT A LOCATION THAT'S NOT EASILY SEEN FROM THE STREET OR ACCESSIBLE.

AND IN TWO OF THE THREE CASES, YOU'RE NOT DOING THAT.

I'M INTERESTED TO KNOW WHAT THEIR THOUGHT WAS IN RECOMMENDING NOT DOING THAT.

AND WHAT THOUGHT IS AND RECOMMENDED DOING IT AS I'M PUTTING HIM, PUTTING HIM RIGHT ON THE STREET, THAT WAY THEY'RE EASILY SEEN BY THE TOURISTS AND RESIDENTS, WHEN THEY'RE WALKING UP AND DOWN THE STREET, WHAT, WHY DO THEY NOT RECOMMEND DOING THAT THOUGH? THAT'S RIGHT IN YOUR LITERATURE.

CAN YOU PULL THAT BACK UP? YOU READ IT BEFORE THAT TYLER LOCATIONS.

THOSE ARE THE MOST CONVENIENCE EXITS MORE THESE BIKES ARE TO GET THAT IS FROM THE VENDOR ITSELF.

NOT, I THINK THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT SECURITY THERE.

CAUSE THE FOLLOWING BULLET POINT SAYS POSSIBLE RECOMMEND USING CAMERA SURVEILLANCE.

SO I BELIEVE, BELIEVE THAT THE BULLET POINT ABOVE THAT IS REFERRING TO EASILY ACCESSIBLE FROM THE STREET POTENTIAL.

UM, WE HAVE TALKED WITH THE CITY OF DANVILLE WHO CURRENTLY HAS THESE BIKES AND THEY HAVE HAD NO ISSUE WITH THAT IN THE LOCATIONS THAT THEY HAVE.

AND THERE ARE CAMERAS WITHIN THE PREMISES ON ALL THREE LOCATIONS.

I THINK WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS AT DESIGN REVIEW, BUT WHAT HAPPENS IN THE EVENT THAT ALL THE BIKES END UP AT ONE LOCATION, THE STANDARD I'LL HAVE TO GO BACK TO IT IN AN ORDER, IT'LL BE CHECKED OUT FOR THAT PERSON UNTIL IT GETS BACK TO EIGHT DOCKING STATIONS.

THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE AT THAT LOCATION AND THEY'RE HAVE TO GO BACK TO ANOTHER AND ON THE APP AND LET THEM KNOW HOW MANY OPENINGS ARE IN EACH DOCKING STATION ON THE APP.

DID YOU SAY SO THEY CAN PULL UP ONCE THEY GET THIS BIKE, THEY CAN PULL UP SOMETHING.

EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE AT BASE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MANY BIKES ARE AVAILABLE AT EACH DOCKING STATION ON THE APP.

UH, BASED ON THE FOLLOWING, UM, SPECIFIC GUIDELINES, PUBLIC AND OPEN SPACES, 2.2 0.2, UH, AND METALS 5.3 0.3.

GREAT.

ANY OTHER, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME NOW, DID, UH, DID YOU SAY IN THE APPLICATION THAT YOU ARE PUTTING DOWN NEW CEMENT BLOCKS, MAYBE BLOCKS IS NOT THE WORD, BUT SO BURIED THE HATCHET, WE WILL BE INSTALLING CONCRETE THERE AT THE OTHER TWO SITES, WE'LL BE USING EXISTING CONCRETE, EXISTING CONCRETE.

YES MA'AM.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS APPLICATION HEARING NONE.

UM, DOES ANYBODY WANT TO MAKE A MOTION FOR THIS APPLICATION? LET'S SEE.

I MOVE THAT.

WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 300 EAST FRONT STREET, 5 0 4 SOUTH FRONT STREET AND 900 TO 904 POLLOCK STREET, UH, TO BE NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH LEE BURNS CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15 4, 11 TO 15, 4 29 AND NEW BERN'S HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES,

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UH, FINDINGS OF FACT BEING, UH, EACH OF THESE LOCATIONS.

UH, IN FACT, ONE OF EACH IS IN THE WATERFRONT DISTRICT, THE, UH, TYPE WEAVE DISTRICT AND THE DUNES FABRIC DISTRICT.

UH, THE PROPOSAL IS A BIKE RENTAL BUSINESS WITH DOCKING STATIONS, UM, DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES, UH, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THE PROJECT COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.

AND THEN LASTLY, THE PROJECT IS NOT IN CONGRUENCE WITH THE GUIDELINES AND THE CONDITION IS THAT THEY WILL ABOUT THE APPLICANT.

AND IF, IF, IF WE FEEL THAT IT'S TRULY NECESSARY, YES, THE APPLICANT HAS TO COMPLY WITH ALL ORDINANCE AND CODES AND THE CITY OF NEWBURGH ZONING CODES.

YES MA'AM AS A CONDITION.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD TO IT? OKAY, SO WE'VE HAD A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND OVER HERE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION PASSES.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ISSUE A COA HAVE OVER HERE TILL YOU SO MOVED? WE HAVE A SECOND.

OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

THE COA CAN BE ISSUED, SIR, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT BEFORE YOU CAN DO ANYTHING, YOU HAVE TO COME BACK TO SEE MATT, UH, ABOUT THE ZONING ISSUE.

UH, ON THE PRIMARY MOTION COMING TO THE BIG TABLE, RIGHT?

[4.C. 206 Change St. – to include two pergolas, patio pavement extension, hot tub, front paving replaced with raised planter, in all AVCs.]

AND THE WORK, UH, HERE AT THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS THE BRICK PAVING.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS 2 0 6 CHAIN STREET, CORRECT.

NOTARIZED WORK ON SEVERAL PAGES HERE.

THE FIRST PORT IS PAVING OUT FRONT PLANTER.

AND SECOND ONE IS, UH, WHERE THE WORK, THE TERTIARY BBC REMOVE THE SECTIONAL, WHITE BRICK STEPS, THE PATIO AND THEN THE ACCESSORIES IN THE TERTIARY, ABC CONSTRUCT A BLUE THE PURPLE UP IN FRONT OF THE GARAGE.

SO I DECIDED, UH, VARIOUS GUIDELINES, UH, TWO PAGES WORTH LISTEN TO MATERIALS AND ALSO HERE AND PROVIDE, UH, UH, IS OUT OF THE SANDBAG BOOK.

UM, JUST THE REBECCA IT'S JUST HOUSE.

AND I'LL BE SUMMARIZING THAT RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR THE, SO THIS SITE GIVES US A, UM, OVERVIEW OF THE PROJECT.

SO I'LL START HERE ACTUALLY AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS ROOM AND WORK UP.

SO THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE IS AT THE BOTTOM HERE WITH THE STREET ACTUALLY, UH, UM, OF THIS DRAWING.

UH, AND SO, UH, LIKE BUBBLE AREAS, THE AREA WHERE, UM, WORK WOULD BE OCCURRING FOR THAT FOR OUT FRONT TO REMOVE THE PART WORK AND REPLACE IT WITH A, UH, PLAN, FINDING A WALL GARDEN WALL.

AND THEN THE NEXT AREA IS PORCH AREA, UH, LOCATION TO NOTED HERE.

UH, AND WE'LL SEE THE CHANGES IN A MINUTE, BUT THIS IS AN IDEA OF WHERE THOSE GENES ARE IN THE SITE.

AND THEN LASTLY, LOCATION THREE IS NEW TRELLIS ALONG THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE AT THE BACK OF THE SITE.

SO HERE'S SOME PHOTOS OF THE HOUSE ITSELF

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UH, THAT'S OUT NEXT TO THE SIDEWALK AND THE SIDEWALK AND WALL FOR THE HOUSE.

WE'LL GET TO THAT HERE STRAIGHT ON.

SO YOU'VE GOT MAYBE A LITTLE BETTER IDEA OF THE ACTUAL BRICKWORK THAT'S THERE ALSO UH, SO, UH, IN FACT, WHEN THE OTHER BACK IN THE HOUSE THERE CURRENTLY IS A BRICK PATIO OR A DECK, AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO BASICALLY FILL IN THE STEPS, A SOLID, UH, FLAT ACROSS, UH, AND ON THE LEFT WHERE WE HAVE THE PLANTS IN THE POTS IS COVER THAT, UH, PLANTING AREA OVER THERE.

AND WE'LL SEE MORE OF THIS.

THE SECOND, UH, I'M ASSIGNED TO, UH, THESE STEPS REMAIN, UH, UH, BESIDE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.

THERE'S NO CHANGES I BELIEVE.

UH, AND THAT'S THE AREA THAT HE COVERED OVER AND BECOME, UH, FOR THE, UH, THE GARAGE IS CURRENTLY, LOOKS LIKE THIS, THEN WE'LL HAVE THE ARBOR OR TRELLIS IN FRONT OF IT.

SO IF YOU WANT, AGAIN, WE'LL GET MORE DETAILED HERE.

AND SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL, A SKETCH OF THE PROPOSAL.

SO WOULD BE A LOW GROUP OR A MALL ALLOWED FOR, UH, UH, UH, THIS ESSENTIALLY IS, UH, THE SAME LENGTH AS THE ACTUAL FRONT OF HOUSE, WHICH IS TO SAY IT DOES NOT INTERFERE WITH THAT.

A FEW STEPS THAT WE SAW IN FRONT OF THE GATE, WHICH IS, UH, UNDER YOUTHFUL LETTERS ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE OF THIS.

AND THEN ON THE BACK, THIS IS A DETAILED VIEW OF THE PLAN.

THIS IS A TOP ONE IS THE EXISTING CONDITION WITH ALL THE STEPS IN THREE DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS AND THE EXISTING PLANETRE.

AND THEN THE PLAN IS TO, UH, FILL IN THE STEPS, UH, THAT GO DIRECTLY TO THE BOTTOM.

THAT'S SHOWN HERE WITH THE RED BRICK COURT.

UH, AND THEN THERE WILL BE A HURDLE THAT HAD AN OVER THAT AREA.

AND THEN ALSO THE TOP ON THE LEFT, AND THEN THE HAND RAIL SINGLE HAND RAIL DOWN THE STEPS TO THE RIGHT.

SO, UH, THIS IS AN ELEVATION VIEW OF THAT WORK, UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, INFILL OF THE BRICKS.

IT IS FLUSH WITH THE EXISTING, UH, PATIO ELEVATION.

AND THIS ALSO SHOWS THE HANDRAILS AND THE PURPLE LINE.

YOU CAN SEE THE BIRD WAS, UH, JUST TALLER THAN THE DOORS BACK FROM THE HOUSE.

AND THIS IS LESS THREE-DIMENSIONAL VIEW THIS ALL TOGETHER AND SEE HOW THIS WORKS.

AND WE HAVE THE NOTES HERE FOR THE BALLISTERS ARE FOUR INCHES ON CENTER, MORE OR LESS THREE INCH CLEARANCE BETWEEN THEM.

AND, UH, THEY'RE PROPOSING SOME, UH, BANANAS TO GROW UP ONTO THE NEWPORT.

AND THEN LASTLY, PUT A GARAGE WITH PLAIN VIEW AT THE TOP AND THE ELEVATION ON, UM, YOUR, UH, IN THIS CASE, STEPPER MUM, GRAPE TO GROW ON THE TOP OF THAT TRELLIS, UH, RIGHT HAND, UH, UH, WORD GREAT IS ANOTHER ELEVATION VIEW, WHICH GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE DEPTH OF THIS TRELLIS THAT IT'S, UM, UH, PERGOLA.

IT'S NOT VERY DEEP AT ALL 30 INCHES TOTAL, UH, AND IS ONLY THE POSTS 12 INCHES FOR THE GARAGE.

SO IT'S A RELATIVELY MINIMAL CHANGE THERE.

AND IN THIS CASE, YOU CAN SEE ON THE ELEVATION, UH, THE FRONT ELEVATION, HOW IT FITS OR HOW IT INTERSECTS WITH THE ACTUAL ELEVATION SIDE OF THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE,

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AND THEN PROVIDE AN EXAMPLE OF, UH, OTHER IRON WORK THAT THEY HAVE, UH, ALREADY AT THE HOUSE.

THEY'LL BE DOING SIMILAR STYLE.

THIS I'LL BE IT, UH, PROBABLY A LOT MORE, UH, MOSTLY TOGETHER ON VERTICALS.

UH, AND THEN WE HAD OUR ZONING INSPECTIONS AND A REVIEW.

SO FOR THIS, UH, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR SAID THAT IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USE BOARD MINUTES.

AND THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR SAYS IT WILL NOT REQUIRE A RECOMMENDATION.

DO WE HAVE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST HERE ON THE COMMISSION, SEEING NONE, ANY ISSUES WITH THE APPLICATION, THE COMPLETENESS OF THE APPLICATION HERE? NONE.

SO DO YOU ALL WISH TO PRESENT ANYTHING ELSE ABOUT THE APPLICATION? NO.

SO SOMEONE WANT TO MAKE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE ANY NOTIFIED PROPONENTS IN THE AUDIENCE? NO OPPONENTS IN THE AUDIENCE? NO.

SO THERE IS NO REBUTTAL THERE.

IS THERE ANYONE WITH RELEVANT EVIDENCE AND HAS STANDING IN THE AUDIENCE? DON'T SEE ANYBODY, ANYBODY FROM THE STATE CITY OR GOVERNMENT BODY IN YORK DON'T HAVE NONE.

WE HAVE NONE.

SO SIR, IF YOU COULD GIVE US THE STAFF FROM, OKAY, SO THESE ARE THE FINDINGS RECOMMENDATIONS, UH, FOR 2 0 6 CHANGED AND HISTORIC PROPERTY NAMED REBECCA ISAACS, ELLA SPACIOUS HOUSE AND GARAGE, UH, BOTH THE HOUSE AND THE GARAGE ARE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.

UH, SO THE NATIONAL REGISTER INVENTORY DESCRIBES THE HOUSE WAS BUILT CIRCA 18, 10, UH, 1830 MONTHS LOCATIONS AND 1890 TO 1900 MODIFICATIONS.

SO WE DESCRIBE IT AS TWO AND A HALF STORIES, FIVE PAGE WIDE, DOUBLE STORY, FRONT PORCH, GABLE, AND GROUP.

AND TWO STORY OF YOUR MAIN, THE GARAGE WAS BUILT CIRCUMVENTING 24, A CHEAP CAR FRAME, BUILDING GABLE AND ROUTE SOUTHWEST OF THE HOUSE, A SANDBAG, THE DESCRIPTION, IF YOU'D LIKE, I CAN PROVIDE THAT.

UM, I'M SORRY.

UH, THE APPLICANT PROVIDED THAT AND I SAID, I WOULD SUMMARIZE IT HERE.

UM, PROVIDE THAT.

UM, SO THE PROJECT OR TO US EXCHANGE STREET IS TO INCLUDE SUPER-CLOSE PATIO, PAVEMENT, EXTENSION HOT TUB CATERING, REPLACE WITH RES PLANTS IN ALL OF THE CDC GUESS PRIMARY AND TERTIARY STAFFS.

AND THIS FOLLOWING STORY, JUST THE TIMELINES ARE APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION, THE LANDSCAPING 2.4 0.3, 2.4 0.7 FOR FENCES AND GARDEN WALLS.

2.5, 2.5 0.2 FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES OR MR. AND 5.1412 3.34.

UH, ALTHOUGH WE CAN PROMISE, RIGHT, 3.4, YOU'RE NOT DOING ANY ALUMINUM PAINT, 5.4 0.2 5.3 AND FOUR STATEMENTS.

THE REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU CAN, THE APPLICATION ARM, ONE PROJECT IS LOCATED INSIDE THE ELEMENT PATTERN TWO, THE PROJECT IS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, PATIO ENVISIONS, LANDSCAPING, AND THE GARDEN WALL 48, THE PROPOSALS, DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES OR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.

THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND THE COMMENTS AND ACCORDINGLY THE PROJECT IS NOT THE GUIDELINES.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS APPLICATION TO PERGOLAS PATIO, DAMON EXTENSION, HEARTFELT FRONT, DATING YOUR PLACE IN THE PRIMARY AND TERTIARY TO BBC.

GOOD.

DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION THEY'D LIKE TO SHARE AT THIS POINT IN TIME HEARING NONE, WE WILL MOVE ON THROUGH THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO ASK? I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE PLANTING THERE'S DWARF CHAMELEON IN THE CREDIT CARD AND A WALL.

DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE MENTOR HEIGHT OF THOSE WOULD BE? WELL, UM, THEY CAN BE PRUNED OF COURSE, BUT, UM, THE HYPE OF THE BREAK UP TO THE, THE DEBT OR SO ON THE PORCH IS ABOUT FOUR FEET.

AND SO IF WE HAD AN 18 INCH PLANNER, THOSE WILL COME UP PROBABLY ABOUT THREE FEET AND THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING TO KEEP THEM, MAINTAIN THEM.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM ANYONE? ANYBODY OKAY.

HEARING NO QUESTIONS.

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I MOVE.

WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR WHAT'S THE ADDRESS STREET, UH, WHEREAS CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR TWO, A SIX TRAIN STREET TO BE NOT IN CONGRESS WITH THE BURNS, UH, CODE OF ORDINANCES, SECTIONS 15 4 1, 1 AND 15 4 29 AND NEW VERNON'S HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS LANDSCAPING, 2.4 0.3 AND 2.4 0.7 FENCES IN GARDEN WALLS, 2.5 0.1 AND TWO SENSORY STRUCTURES, TWO POINTS, 6.1 AND 2.6 0.3 MODIFICATIONS 3.2 0.1 4.4 0.4 MASONARY 5.1 0.1 AND TWO METAL, 5.3 0.3, PAINT 5.4 0.2, THREE AND FOUR STATEMENTS OF FACT, THE PROJECT'S LOADED LOCATED, AND THE TYPE WE HAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN PROJECT IS, UH, IS ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, PATIO, REVISIONS, AND LANDSCAPING, AND A GARDEN WALL PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THE PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY PROJECT IS NOT IN CONGRESS WITH THE GUIDELINES.

AND JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE ARE AWARE THAT WE'RE ALSO APPROVING THE PLANTINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SPECIFICALLY IDENTIFIED FOR THIS.

NOBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS WITH THAT.

YOU, YOU WERE SATISFIED WITH YOUR ANSWERS.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED.

I'M SORRY.

SECOND.

SECOND, SECOND SLIDE HERE.

ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION PASSED.

CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO ISSUE A COA? SO MOVE.

WE GOT SECOND OVER WITH CANDICE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION PASSED.

I BET THAT'S THE FASTEST ONE YOU'VE EVER HAD.

AND YOU HAVEN'T THAT YOU HAVEN'T SAID ONE WORD.

WELL, BUT THAT IS TO SPEAK TO HOW WELL YOU ARE PRESENTED THIS, THIS MATERIAL AND DESIGN REVIEW.

SO WE KNEW EXACTLY WHAT WE WERE GETTING.

WE ASKED YOU TO BRING CERTAIN DRAWINGS AND YOU BROUGHT THOSE, AND THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN EVERYBODY COOPERATES WITH EVERYBODY ELSE WE'RE DONE.

YOU CAN GET WITH MATT ABOUT THAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THAT BEAUTIFUL.

[4.D. 405 Johnson St. – to include replacing wooden front steps with brick steps in the Primary AVC.]

SO WE GOT 4 0 5 JOHNSON STREET.

REQUIREMENTS, FOUNDATIONS.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ON THE SCREEN OF THE APPLICATION, UH, AND THE, UH, PROPOSAL, THE APPLICATION TO SIGN THE BID.

AND WE HAVE THE, UM, OWNERS AUTHORIZATION FOR PRESENTATIVE AND WE HAVE, THEY SUBMITTED THIS PART OF THE PROJECT WITH, UH, FINDING THESE OLD PHOTOGRAPHS OF THEIR HOUSE.

AND IT SHOWS, UH, THAT THE WOODEN STEPS WERE NOT THERE, UH, THESE MANY YEARS AGO.

AND SO THEY DECIDED THEY LIKE TO REVERT BACK TO THOSE STEPS.

UM, SO NOW THEY'VE, UH, PROVIDED, THIS IS A PHOTOGRAPH OF THE EXISTING STEP SO, UH, THESE ARE THE EXISTING ONE STEPS AND SORRY, AND THE EXISTING HANDRAILS, WHICH, UH, I THINK SOMEWHERE IN MY DOCUMENTATION, I THOUGHT THAT INCLUDED HANDRAILS, BUT NO, JUST THE STEPS JUST FOR A SIMPLE PROJECT.

AND THEY PROVIDE A VERY, VERY GOOD SKETCH OF WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE.

UH, AND EVEN THE SIDE HERE, HERE, OR WORK TO RECREATE THE PORTION OF PEOPLE.

AND SO, UM, ALL THAT'S ALL THERE IS WE, UM, AT OUR ZONING INSPECTION REVIEW, WHICH SHOWS THAT THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR SAYS THAT NEEDS

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IS THERE ANY CONFLICT OF INTEREST FROM ANYONE, ANYONE HAVE ANY ISSUES WITH THE COMPLETENESS OF THE APPLICATION? IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE? OH, POWDERS IN THE AUDIENCE, PROPONENTS IN THE AUDIENCE, YOU DON'T HAVE ANY THOSE WITH RELEVANT EVIDENCE THAT HAS STANDING IN THE AUDIENCE.

THEY'RE NOT ANY PEOPLE FROM THE CITY, STATE AND GOVERNMENT BODY.

THEY'RE NOT ANY, SO I THINK WE'RE BACK TO YOU WITH THE STAFF FINDINGS.

4 0 5 JOHNSON STREET.

UM, THESE ARE PROPERTY NAMED AS THE STANLEY ALLEN HOUSE.

IS IT CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE? UH, THE MENTIONED REGISTERING FOR THE STORY AND THE CASE WAS BUILT CIRCUIT 18, 10, 18 43 REMODEL, AND, UH, OR ACTUALLY IN 1891 REMODEL.

SO IT'S TWO AND A HALF STORIES, THREE DAYS WIDE FROM ATTIC WITH PATTERNS, GABLE SIZE NORMS, SANDBAG DESCRIPTION.

AND I REALIZED WE, WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, THE DESCRIPTION OF THE HOUSE IS, UH, VERY INTERESTING FOR THE STORE.

SO PULL OUT SOME THINGS THAT I THOUGHT MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO YOU.

UM, AND IT WAS BUILT SURF 18, 10, WHO WAS ENLARGED IN 1843.

AND YOU'LL HEAR ABOUT THAT IN A SECOND.

AND IT WAS REMODEL CIRCUIT, 1891, UH, THAT'S ALL BEFORE.

UH, SO ANYHOW, A QUOTE FROM SANDBAG IS THIS TWO AND A HALF STORY FEDERAL HOUSE IN LARGE DURING THE GREEK REVIVAL PERIOD WAS FIRST HOME AND PROBABLY BUILT FOR JOHN BROTHERS STANLEY REFERRED TO IN MILLER'S RECOLLECTIONS AS QUOTE, ONE OF THE MOST PROMINENT FREE PERSONS OF COLOR AND THE NEW BERN REMEMBER 18, 10.

SO WE WERE SO, UH, THEN AS ORIGINALLY CONSTRUCTED THE HOUSE WAS ONLY THE WIDTH OF THE TWO LEFT WINDOWS WITH AN ENTRANCE DOOR LOCATED BETWEEN THE TWO WINDOW OPENINGS.

THE HOUSE WAS MOST LIKELY GIVEN ITS PRESENT EXTERIOR IN LARGE SIZE JUST AFTER IT WAS PURCHASED BY ELIZA ALLEN IN 1843, UH, THERE AN 1863 PHOTO AND SAID THAT THE PATTERN SHINGLE WORK IN GABLES AND FULL WITH FRONT PORCH WERE PROBABLY ADDED SHORTLY AFTER 1891 WHEN THE HOUSE WAS PURCHASED BY MORTY AND MARKS THE HOUSE NEXT DOOR.

AND IT'S ALSO NOTED, CONTINUE TO ADD, AND ALSO KNOW THAT FOR THE DECORATIVE SHINGLE WORK IN THE PAVEMENT, THAT'S HOW THEY FIGURE THAT.

YEAH, SO THAT SAID, I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH MORE STEPS.

SO THE PROJECT, THE FOUR OR FIVE JOHNSON STREET IS TO INCLUDE REPLACING THE MOON FRONT STEPS WITH STEPS AND NOT GIVING YOU THE ADDRESS AND THE PRIMARY ADC.

SO STAFF SUBMITS ALL THE STORY.

PLUS THE GUIDELINES ARE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS APPLICATION FOR MY PATIENTS 3.2 0.1 FOR ENTRANCES, A 4.4 0.2.

AND THAT ONE WAS FOUR.

THAT WAS JUST FOR THE 4.44 FOR MASONRY 5.1 0.1 AND FIVE, 1.2 AND PAINT WAS FOR THE HANDRAILS, ALL THREE OF US.

SO STATEMENTS OF REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION AND STATS ARE ONE AND THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE INSIGHT MEETING DEVELOPMENT MATTER.

THE PROJECT IS REPLACING THE FRONT PORCH STEPS, THREE PROPOSALS, DESIGN COMPONENTS, AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES OR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.

CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTS ACCORDINGLY.

AND FIVE OF THE PROJECT IS NOT IN GROUPS WITH GUIDELINES.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS APPLICATIONS WHEN REPLACING WOODEN FRONT STEPS WITH BRICK STEPS IN THE PRIMARY ATC.

DOES THE APPLICANT HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS YOU WANT TO MAKE AT THIS TIME? NOPE.

MEMBERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? OKAY.

DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MOVED THAT WE FIND APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR JOHNSON

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JOHNSON STREET.

WITH THE NUMEROUS SCOPE CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTIONS, 15 DASH 14, 11 TO 15 DASH 4 29 AND NUMEROUS HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS THAT MODIFICATIONS 3.2 0.1 ENTRANCES 4.4 0.2 4.4 0.1 YEAR DROPPED MASONARY 5.1 0.1 5.1 0.2.

SKIPPING DOWN FOR STATEMENTS OF REASON BASED ON INFORMATION OBTAINED IN APPLICATION AND STAFF'S JUDGMENT.

THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

THE PROJECT IS REPLACING THE FRONT PORCH STEPS AND HANDRAIL, THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND CAN COMMENT IT ACCORDINGLY.

THE PROJECT IS NOT IN CONGRUENCE WITH THE GUIDELINES.

YOU SAID IT REPLACED THE HANDOUT.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION PASSES.

CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO ISSUE A COA, HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? WE HAVE A SECOND, TIM.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR.

SAY AYE.

ANY OPPOSED HEARING NOD.

YOU CAN BE ISSUED TO SEE YOU.

AND AGAIN, THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THINGS MOVING RIGHT ALONG.

Y'ALL, DIDN'T HAVE TO SAY A WORD BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY PRESENTED TO US AT DESIGN REVIEW, WHICH WAS EXACTLY WHAT THEY BROUGHT TO US.

SO WE ASKED FOR THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

MAKES THINGS MOVE ALONG.

GETTING ORDINATE ORGANIZED, MADAM CHAIR HAVE A CONFLICT OF INTEREST AS I WILL BE PRESENTING THE NEXT STEP ALLOCATION.

OH, YOU GUYS, YOU GUYS WANT TO THROW THIS BACK? YEAH, YEAH.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO WHILE, WHILE WE'RE

[4.E. Federal Alley – to include installing wall-mounted arbors in the east end of the Public Right of Way.]

SO CAN WE HAVE A MOTION TO RECUSE YOU PLACE MOTION TO RECUSE COMMISSIONER YORE SINCE HE IS THE APPLICANT.

ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR.

SAY I POST HEARING NONE.

YOU ARE RECUSED, SIR.

OKAY, SIR, IF YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ON FEDERAL HOURLY, RIGHT? SO HERE WE HAVE OUR APPLICATION, UH, ARCHITECTS AND OWNERS, THE CITY OF NEWBURGH AND THE APPLICATION IS SIGNED AND DATED AND WE HAVE OUR OWNER'S AUTHORIZATION SIGNED AND NOTARIZED.

AND SO THIS IS THE FIRST OF THE TWO PAGES OF DRAWINGS.

SO AT THE TOP, UM, YOU SEE ESSENTIALLY THE SIDE OF MORGAN'S RESTAURANT, UH, WHICH THE THOUGHTS, UH, FEDERAL ALLEY ON THE EAST END.

AND SO THE STREET WOULD BE ON THE LEFT-HAND SIDE.

UH, AS YOU CAN SEE THIS TALLEST PART OF THE BUILDING, ASSAD IS ON THAT.

AND THEN IT TAPERS DOWN AS IT GETS TOWARDS THE BACK.

UH, AND, UH, THEY HAVE AN LARGE, UH, PORTION AT THE FRONT OF THE BUILDING, WHICH IS OPPOSITE TO THE LEFT UPPER LEFT CORNER HERE TO SHOW THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD SOME SIGNAGE, UH, SUCH AS THE NAME OF THE PITFALL VALLEY, OTHER FLAGS ON THERE.

UH, THEN THE OTHER THINGS TO NOTE ON THIS ELEVATION, ESPECIALLY ARE THESE, UH, STRANGE, UM, UH, BIRD PRINTS OR FOOTPRINTS ON THE SIDE OF THE DINOSAURS ON THE SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

THOSE ARE THE SUBJECT OF THIS IN ADDITION TO THE SIGNAGE.

UH, SO THE BOTTOM DRAWING, UH, BASICALLY IT SHOWS THE PLAN VIEW OF THE ALLEY, WHICH INCLUDES SHOWING THAT THERE ARE MECHANICAL UNITS GOING THERE AND THE ALLEY IS RATHER NARROW, BUT WE'LL SEE THAT IN THE SECOND, THE NEXT SHEET, UH, SHOWS SOME PERSPECTIVE DRAWINGS AND

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TWO ELEVATIONS.

SO, UH, TWO PROSPECTIVE DRAWINGS PROBABLY SELF-EXPLANATORY HERE AT THIS POINT.

THESE ARE STEEL STRUCTURES THAT ARE ATTACHED TO THE MORGAN MORGAN'S RESTAURANT BUILDING, UH, DOWN THE ALLEY OVER TOP OF THESE, UM, UNITS.

PLUS THERE IS SOME NEW PAVING BEING ADDED, UH, ALONG THIS ALLEY, AS YOU PROBABLY NOTICED.

SO YOU SEE A SECOND, UH, ILLUSTRATION SHOWING OUR ANGLE VIEW.

UH, AND THEN WE HAVE TWO ELEVATIONS, UH, SHOWING, UM, THE DESIGN FOR THESE, UH, AND THEN ALSO FROM THE SIDE FRONT, UH, AND THEN ALSO THE ELEVATION.

SO THOSE ARE THE APPLICATION.

SO WE HAVE OUR ZONING INSPECTIONS DRAWING.

UM, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR SAYS IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE PLAINS ORDINANCE AND THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR SAYS IT WILL NOT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.

SO THEN WE'RE READY TO GET BETTER RECOMMENDATIONS.

SO WE'VE DEALT WITH THE ONE CONFLICT OF INTEREST THAT WE HAD.

ARE THERE ANY ISSUES ON APPLICATION, COMPLETE HEARING? NONE.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE, OR YOU'D LIKE TO SAY AT THIS TIME? UH, YES.

MA'AM THANK YOU.

MADAM CHAIR.

MY NAME IS TRIPP.

YOUR, UM, I'M PLEASED TO BE PART OF A VOLUNTEER EFFORT ON BEHALF OF THE CITY OF NEWBURN.

UH, WE PREFER TO CALL IT THEM, UH, URBAN ARBORS AS OPPOSED TO AVIARY REFERENCES.

BUT I SUPPOSE WITH, WITH ARTWORK, WE MAY, UH, CALL THEM WHATEVER MOVES US.

UH, UM, OUR APPLICATION IS ESSENTIALLY, UH, OR I SHOULD SAY EXACTLY THE SAME AS WE PRESENTED IN DESIGN REVIEW.

I WILL REMIND YOU THAT WE REQUESTED THAT LIGHTING COME BACK AT A FUTURE TIME.

ONCE THOSE DETAILS CAN BE RESOLVED.

AND THEN LASTLY AT YOU ASKED THAT I GET A LETTER OF AUTHORIZATION FROM THE PROPERTY OWNER OF MORGAN'S, UM, TO ATTACH TO THESE ITEMS. AND I HAVE COPIES OF THAT HERE, IF YOU CARE TO HAVE ONE AND CERTAINLY MET, MATT WOULD LIKE TO HAVE IT.

OH GOD, I'M A LOW-TECH GUY.

IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO SAY AT THIS POINT? NO, MA'AM OKAY.

IN THE CITY OF NEWBURN, IS THIS THE BEST APPROPRIATION OF FUNDS TO IMPROVE THE LOOKS OF THAT ALLEY? UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY HAS ADDRESSED ANYTHING ON THE GROUND.

ARE THERE ANY NOTIFIED PROPONENTS NOTIFIED OPPONENT? UH, YOU'RE A PROPONENT.

WHY, WHY DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING YOU WANT TO SAY THE GUY DID YOU SIGN IN TO SPEAK YOU GUYS? SO IF YOU WOULD COME UP TO THE PODIUM, SO YOU'RE A PROPONENT OF THIS.

I LIKED THE IDEA OF, AND I DON'T WANT THE IDEA A LOT.

I'M BOTH.

WELL, GOOD.

WELL, LET'S START WITH YOUR, WHAT DO YOU LIKE ABOUT IT? I'M DAVID GOLIATH.

UM, THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNER ON THE, UH, ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THAT ALLEY, UM, FOR 156 FEET UNBELIEF, THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE, UM, ACROSS FROM THE, UH, BEAUTIFUL ARBORS.

I LOVE THEM.

I LIKE THE DESIGN.

UM, WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING IN DIFFERENT, UM, MEETINGS THROUGHOUT THE CITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AT LEAST 20, THAT I CAN RECALL PROBABLY CLOSER TO 30 ON IMPROVING THIS ALLEY.

UH, I WAS THERE THE, UH, THE DAY THAT THEY TOOK THE, UM, UTILITY POLES DOWN THAT WERE IN THE ALLEY AND PLACED THE UTILITIES, UH, ON THE GROUND.

IT HAS BEEN DISCUSSED TO, UM, DO FURTHER THINGS WITH THOSE UTILITIES, WHETHER THEY BE, UM, PLACED UNDERGROUND UNDER THE STREET, UNDER THE SIDEWALK OR, OR RELOCATED.

UM, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT FIRST STEP TO IMPROVE THAT ALLEY.

UH, AT THE SAME TIME I DO ASK MYSELF, UM, AND ASK YOU GUYS

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IS THIS, AND I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS IT JUST THE ARBORS THAT WERE THE, IT'S JUST THE ARBORS BEAUTIFICATION.

AND THEN I ALSO HEARD THAT IN THE FUTURE, THERE WAS GOING TO BE ADDITIONAL LIGHTING REQUEST, WHICH IS FANTASTIC.

UM, BUT MY, YOU KNOW, MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, IS THE, THE UTILITY BOXES, UM, THAT ARE LAND IN THE ALLEY, UH, AS WELL AS THE, UM, WHAT SURFACE IN WHAT, UM, MATERIAL, UM, IS THERE ANY PLANS FOR THAT AS WELL? WELL, WE WOULDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE UTILITY BOXES, SO THAT'S NOT SOMETHING UNDER OUR PREVIEW.

AND YOUR OTHER QUESTION WAS WHAT NOW? UM, THE DIRT, UM, ALLEY NOT BEING ANY, UM, CONCRETE OR BRICK OR ANYTHING ELSE, IT'S A PAVING PAVERS.

IT'S GOT MUD BUBBLES.

YEAH, NO, IT'S GOT PAPERS IN, IN THE APPLICATION.

OH, I'M SORRY.

ANY APPLICATION THAT DOES? I DIDN'T HEAR THAT.

SO THOSE HAVE BRICK.

I'M SORRY.

I MUST'VE MISSED THAT.

WELL THAT, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.

UM, UH, I'M GLAD WE'RE GONNA IMPROVE THE ALLEY AFTER 30 YEARS.

SO IF YOU WANT SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE UTILITY BOXES, WHERE DOES HE GO TO MATT TO ASK ABOUT THOSE TWO, THE CITY MANAGER, I THINK CITY UNITED HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BOXES.

SO THAT'S HOW YOU'D HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE THEN I THINK, UM, I THINK IT WENT THROUGH THIS PHASE OF IT BECAUSE THERE'S A GRANT INVOLVED AND WE HAVE WITH THE GROUP THAT INVOLVES, WHO'S ASKED TO SPEND THAT MONEY.

AND SO THEY ONLY PUT FORWARD THIS PART OF THE PROJECT.

GOTCHA.

OKAY, YOU'RE WELCOME.

SO, UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK FOR AGAINST.

DO YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT HE HAD SAID, SIR? JUST ONE LAST THING TO, TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT THERE ARE BRICK PAPER EDGING AND THE EXPOSED AGGREGATE CONCRETE IN THE ALLEY AS A WALKING PEDESTRIAN SERVICE SURFACE.

THAT IS PART OF THE, AS PART OF THE APPLICATION.

YOU CLEARED THAT UP.

DO WE HAVE ANYBODY WITH RELEVANT EVIDENCE AND HAS STANDING THAT WANTS TO SPEAK, DON'T HEAR OR SEE ANYBODY? DID WE HAVE ANYBODY FROM THE STATE CITY OR GOVERNMENT WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? WE DON'T HAVE ANYBODY.

SO WE WILL NOW THEN GO TO, UM, YOUR STAFF FINDINGS.

UM, IGNORE THE FACT THAT THIS IS FOUR OR FIVE POUNDS.

THE TOP IS FOR THE ADMIRAL ALLEY PROJECT, COLUMBIA ARCHITECTS.

THE, UH, AND THERE IS NO INFORMATION ABOUT THE NATIONAL REGISTER.

UH, AGAIN, BASED ON DESIGN REVIEW AND SOME OF THE, UH, QUESTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS, WE'D LIKE TO BRING THE LIGHTING BACK AT A FUTURE TIME.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR COMMISSIONERS, ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS? ANYBODY? ANY COMMENTS? WE DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD.

SO A WALMART ARBOR AND SIGNAGE 2.811 28.2 5.3 AND MASON MARIE, 1.2, THREE OF THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS, MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AND GUIDELINES FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR COMMENTS.

AND FIVE, A PROJECT IS NOT IN GROSS WITH GUIDELINES, RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVED THIS APPLICATIONS, INSTALLING WALL HOUSE ARBORS AND IN THE EAST END PUBLIC.

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UH, CAN WE HAVE A MOTION? AND, UH, IN THIS MOTION, DO WE HAVE TO STATE THE CONDITION THAT LIGHTING WILL BE BROUGHT BACK AT ANOTHER TIME? DO WE NEED, THAT COULD BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION.

THAT'D BE A SEPARATE APPLICATION.

SO WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT.

SO CAN WE HAVE A MOTION PLEASE? I MOVE THAT? WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR FEDERAL ALLEY, UH, FOR A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS TO BE NOT IN CONGRESS WITH UBER INS CODE OF ORDINANCE, SECTION 15 DASH 4 1 1 TO 15 DASH 4 29 AND NEW BURDENS HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS OF FACT PUBLIC OPEN SPACES, 2.2 0.1 UTILITIES, 2.3 0.6 SIGNAGE 2.8 0.1 AND 2.8 0.2 MODIFICATIONS 3.2 0.1 METAL THREE, 5.3 0.3 MASONARY 5.1 0.2 IN PAINT, 5.4 0.2 STATE.

AND THEN IT'S A FACT PROJECT'S LOCATED WITH THE DENSE FABRIC DEVELOPMENT.

PART OF THE PROJECT IS INSTALLING STEEL.

ARBORS ON THE SIDE OF THE BRICK BUILDING, PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS OF MATERIALS, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINE AND SONY ADMINISTRATOR.

CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL REVIEWED THE PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY PROJECTS DONE IN CONGRESS WITH THE GUIDELINES.

THANK YOU, SIR.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? EVERY SECOND OF YOUR TEAM? WHO? JOHNNY JONES SECOND.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

THE MOTION FAST GOING TO HAVE A MOTION TO ISSUE A CLA.

SO WE HAVE SO MOVES IS THE SECOND, SECOND, SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE, ALL THOSE OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

WE WILL ISSUE THE COA.

DO I HAVE A MOTION FOR THIS TRIP TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD? SECOND, YOU MOVE YOUR SECOND.

ALL OF THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

YOU MAY READ ORANGE, UH, AND THEN SECONDS OVER HERE.

JUST CHOOSE ONE UP.

SO, UH, WE DONE, UH, THESE FOUR ITEMS, UH, ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON THE AGENDA IS ANY OLD BUSINESS AND WE, DO WE HAVE ANY OLD BUSINESS? I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LISTED.

NOPE.

UH, ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS AT THIS POINT FROM ANYBODY IN THE AUDIENCE? WE DON'T HAVE MANY LEFT.

OH, THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT THIS PROJECT WHO'S PAYING FOR YOU TO COME UP AND MAKE SWISS, SWISS BAYER.

[7.A. 416 – 418 Broad St. – extension of CoA]

PLOT NEXT TO THE, UH, FIRE MUSEUM, UH, TO THE RIGHT OF THE FIRE MUSEUM.

SO NOW ADAM SEVEN, WHICH HAS TO DO WITH FOUR 16, WITH FOUR 18 WATCH STREET AND EXTENSION OF THE COA.

CAN YOU GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ON THAT? YES.

SO, UH, THIS PROJECT WAS FIRST APPROVED IN 2019, UH, AND, UH, UH, SEVERAL EXTENSIONS.

THE FIRST ONE DOES NOT NEED TO BE BROUGHT BEFORE THE HPC, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN THEY'RE ABOUT TO, UH, COME UP AGAINST THEIR EXPIRATION DATE.

AND, UH, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR YOU IS TO THINK ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE GUIDELINES THAT MADE JANE EITHER, WHETHER OR NOT IT SHOULD BE ESSENTIALLY, UH, NOT EXTENDED AND THEREFORE EXPIRE, OR THAT THERE MAY BE SOME TO DO AN EXTENSION WITH THE ADDITIONAL CONDITIONS OR THIRD DATE.

UH, SO THOSE ARE YOUR THREE OPTIONS.

SO AS YOU'RE LOOKING THROUGH A PROJECT, UH, THINK ABOUT THAT.

UM, BUT, UH, SO I WILL PRESENT TO YOU WHAT THEIR PRESENTATION MODE AND THEN THE LAST EXTENSION, THEIR APPLICATION.

UH, SO I'M GOING TO SHOW YOU THE DRAWINGS, ESPECIALLY SINCE WE HAVE SOME NEW MEMBERS SINCE THIS WAS FIRST, UH, UH, APPROVED.

UM, THIS IS A PROJECT NEXT TO AN INDIVIDUAL

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UH, AND SO IT'S, UH, THESE FOUR TOWN HOMES ON THE FRONT AND SEVERAL, IN FACT, TO SEE THAT IN A SECOND PHOTOGRAPHS, THIS IS ESSENTIALLY THE SITE PLANTS ON THE LEFT IS BROAD STREET.

AND SO THERE ARE FOUR UNITS FACING BROAD STREET, AND THEN THERE ARE FOUR UNITS IN THE BACK, UH, AND ESSENTIALLY A DIFFERENT UNIT IS FACING SAME DIRECTION AS PARKING, WHEREAS ON THE FRONT, THERE'S A FRONT DOOR.

LET'S SEE THAT AGAIN.

SO THIS IS A RENDERING OF THE PROJECT, UH, FROM BROAD STREET.

OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN SEE IT, THE SECOND BUILDING TO THE REAR TURN SIDEWAYS, UH, DETAILS OF DESIGN, UH, THE VIEW OF THE PROJECT FROM THE BACK FROM THE REAR.

UH, SO EVEN THOUGH WE'RE BUILDING OUR PARKING AREA, IT'S STILL THE SAME, UH, ILLUSTRATIONS, ALL THE CORE PLANS RELEVANT.

THESE WERE THE ELEVATIONS THEY PROVIDED, UM, ALL SIDES, ALL UNITS, PRODUCT LITERATURE.

AND SO THIS WAS THE LAST, UM, COA EXTENSION AND SEE, UH, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, SHE FILLING, INSPECT, CORRECT ASSIGN AND MAKE ANY NOTES.

AND WE APPROVE IT.

I THINK THE VERY FIRST TIME WITH A CONDITION THAT THEY SENT ME THE LANDSCAPE PLAN FOR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AS CONDITIONED WITH THE CLA EXTENDED TO SEPTEMBER 25, 22, THEY GO AHEAD AND DO THAT.

WE WOULD SEND IT FOR A YEAR FROM SEPTEMBER TO SEPTEMBER 23 AT THIS, WE HAVE NO LIST OF PLANTING JUNE.

NO.

SO THAT'S STILL A CONDITION OF THE APPROVAL.

SO YOU NEED A MOTION TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION.

WE DO.

I WAS JUST TRYING TO THINK, I DON'T THINK WE'VE DONE ANYTHING TO CHANGE OUR GUIDELINES SINCE THEN.

NO, NOT THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID WE NEEDED TO CONSIDER IS THAT WOULD AFFECT WHETHER OR NOT WE HAVEN'T CHANGED OUR GUIDELINES.

SO IT WOULD STILL BE THE SAME GUIDELINE.

AND THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE TO PRESENT, COME BACK WITH THE PLANTINGS.

SO MADAM CHAIR, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE REASON FOR THE EXTENSION REQUEST ON THE RECORD.

THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME.

I'LL GET THROUGH THAT.

SO, UH, DO WE, DO WE HAVE A RATION? DO WE, NO REASON.

UH, I HAVE, DO YOU WANT TO TELL US WHAT THE REASON IS? I'D BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU.

THE OWNERS REASON REALLY IS JUST, THEY WERE, THEY WERE GOING TO START IT AND THEN COVID HIT AND THEY DIDN'T START IT.

AND THEN TIME GOT AWAY.

AND THEN, UH, COVID WAS STILL KIND OF GOING ON AND PRICES HAVE GONE UP SIGNIFICANTLY.

AND SO THEY REALLY WERE THINKING ABOUT PULLING A PERMIT BEFORE THIS LAST ONE EXPIRED.

THEY VERY MUCH WANT TO GET GOING ON THE PROJECT.

THEY JUST WANT A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO LET PRICES CALM DOWN AND START THE PROJECT.

UM, NOTHING HAS CHANGED ON IT.

UM, THEY STILL VERY MUCH WANT TO DO IT AND HAVE EXPRESSED THAT TO ME AND JUST WANT, UM, DON'T WANT TO FEEL FORCED TO HAVE TO PULL A PERMIT BY SEPTEMBER.

THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY REASON.

SO IT'S FLEW TO FINANCIAL REASONS THEY HAVE, THEY HAVEN'T GONE FORWARD.

I MEAN, I GUESS THAT'S A REASON.

SURE.

WELL, WE GOT TO HAVE A REASON, SO, BUT THEY'RE, YOU SAID THEY'RE WAITING FOR PRICES

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TO COME HOME.

SO FINANCIAL REASONS IS ONE THING IS, IS, IS THAT ENOUGH THAT WE NEED, OR DO WE NEED SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S FOR YOU ALL TO DECIDE? THERE IS A REASON THAT BASED ON THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE LAWRENCE, ANOTHER EXTENSION, YOU CERTAINLY IT'S IN YOUR PURVIEW TO DO SO.

UM, I THINK THE REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE APPLICANT IS INDICATED THE NO PERMIT TO HAVE BEEN PULLED.

UM, SO ORDINARILY A S C O WILL BE KNOWN THE VOID.

IF YOU DON'T PULL A PERMIT WITHIN ONE YEAR, HOWEVER, THERE HAVE BEEN EXTENSIONS WITHIN THE TIME ALLOWED.

UM, SO YOU ALL ARE THE SOLE ARBITERS OF WHETHER AN EXTENSION IS WARRANTED ON THESE FACTS.

COULD THIS BE A CONDITION THAT IT'S A FINAL EXTENSION? YEAH, THAT WAS MY NEXT QUESTION.

HOW MANY EXTENSIONS CAN WE DO? UM, IN ANY CASE THAT YOU CAN MAKE ANY EXTENSION FOR ANY AMOUNT OF TIME, YOU COULD EVEN EXTEND IT FOR THREE YEARS OR THREE MONTHS, BUT THE NUMBER OF EXTENSIONS IS FIXED.

THE NUMBER OF EXTENSIONS EFFECT.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.

MR. BIXBY IS THE SO, UM, CODE SECTION 15, 4 28, SUBSECTION D INDICATE I'M JUST GOING TO READ RIGHT OUT OF THE CODE THAT LET ME SEE YOUR WANT TO GET TO THE APPROPRIATE PORTION.

SO THE COA, THE, UH, I'M SORRY, HPA HPC ADMINISTRATOR CAN EXTEND UP TO ONE YEAR, NOT THE STANDING VIA THE ADMINISTRATOR'S AUTHORITY UNDER THIS SECTION, THE COMMISSION, WHICH IS YOU ALL IS ALSO EMPOWERED TO GRANT AN EXTENSION OF A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR ANY LENGTH OF TIME DEEMED APPROPRIATE, PROVIDED AN APPLICATION FOR SUCH EXTENSION IS SUBMITTED IN WRITING TO THE COMMISSION PRIOR TO THE EXPLORATION OF THE ORIGINAL CERTIFICATE OR ANY EXTENSION THERE OF WHICH LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN EXTEND EXTENSIONS, BUT THERE'S NOT A HARD AND FAST RULE TO SAY, YOU CAN ONLY HAVE X NUMBER OF THAT WAS THE QUESTION, AND IT WOULD ALWAYS SEEM RELEVANT IF I MAY, WOULD ONLY SEEM RELEVANT TO NOT EXTEND IF IT PROJECT NO LONGER IS CAN GROUP WITH THE GUIDELINES.

OF COURSE, THE GUIDELINES HAVE CHANGED TO THE POINT WHERE THE PROJECT IS NO LONGER APPROPRIATE.

THAT WOULD REALLY ONLY BE A LOGICAL REASON.

RIGHT.

AND WE HAVEN'T CHANGED OUR GUIDELINES SINCE ORIGINATE.

WE HAVE JUST NOT IN A WAY THAT HAS ANY EFFECT ON THAT SPEED.

FOR EXAMPLE, IF WE HAD THOSE COMMON CONCRETE, UH, UH, HUXLEY LOGS SLATS FOR DECK, YOU KNOW, FOR BOX, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO, UH, UM, UH, MINORS AT THE GR THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THIS.

MADAM CHAIR AND THE EXTENSION SHOULD BE FOR A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME, NOT FOREVER, BUT CERTAINLY A REASONABLE TIME.

OH, ONE OTHER POINT I'M CHAIR, JUST, JUST FOR FULL DISCLOSURE, THE DISCLOSURE AND TRANSPARENCY.

UH, I AM A CURRENT OWNER OF 4 0 9 HANCOCK STREET.

I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THAT IS WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THIS PROJECT.

UM, I DON'T THINK IT IS.

I DON'T THINK, UH, 60, I THINK.

AND THEN PLUS THE ROAD, OR MAYBE IT IS.

SO I, I HAVE NO PROBLEMS IF SOMEONE FEELS LIKE I NEED TO BE RECUSED FROM THE VOTE JUST TO AVOID ANY POTENTIAL CONFLICT.

WOW.

SO, BUT YOU DIDN'T, WELL, YOU DIDN'T GET A LETTER BECAUSE THE LETTER WOULDN'T BE SENT OUT AS REQUIRED.

AND IF THE MEMBER DOESN'T HAVE SOME TYPE OF THE CUNY AIRY INTEREST, I DON'T SEE A CONFLICT OF IT.

BASED ON THE FACT THAT HE SAID, OKAY.

IS A REASONABLE TIME, BUT IN 19 TO 20, 22, 10, IT'S BEEN THREE YEARS ALREADY.

SO WHAT IS YOUR DISCUSSION ON THIS? DO YOU WANT TO, UH, EXTEND IT AGAIN FOR A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME? UM, DEPENDING ON LOOKING AT, IF THE OWNERS WANT TO GO FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, THEY GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME DUE TO FINANCIAL REASONS AND HAVE THEM COME BACK IN A YEAR.

UM, I THINK IT'S REASONABLE TO PUT A TIME LIMIT.

THE GUIDELINES MAY CHANGE IN A YEAR

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AND THEY'VE NOT DONE ANYTHING.

THEY WON'T GET ANY CHEAPER.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO GET ANY, ANY CHEAPER, SO WE DON'T HATE TO KEEP DOING IT UNLESS THEY'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING.

SO, UM, COULD WE DO IT? SO WHEN SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TO, UH, DO THE EXTENSION FOR A YEAR AND HAVE THEM COME BACK IN A YEAR, I MOVED, WE GRANTED AN EXTENSION, UH, FOR, UH, 4 16, 14, 18 BROAD STREET, UH, FOR ONE YEAR FROM THE CURRENT, UH, UH, THEY HAVE, UH, 9 25, 22 FOR REASONS OF, OF, UM, COVID AND OTHER FACTORS.

SECOND.

ALRIGHT, SO WE HAVE A SECOND, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, SAY AYE.

OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

SO THE MOTION PASSED.

SO YOU HAVE ONE YEAR TO COME BACK.

I GOT TO DO SOMETHING HERE.

[8. HPC Administrator’s Report]

SO, UH, ITEM EIGHT ON HERE'S THE ADMINISTRATOR'S REPORT AND HE'S GIVEN US A BREAKDOWN OF, UH, THE COA.

SO THE MAJORS AND THE MINORS, WHICH WE ARE AWARE OF, UH, ITEM B UNDER EIGHT, UH, COA EXTENSION ISSUE.

SINCE WE'VE JUST DONE THAT.

NO, THIS IS, UH, NEXT TIME YOU'LL HAVE THIS ONE ON THAT.