[1. Roll Call]
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WELCOME TO THE AUGUST 4TH MEETING AND THE NEW ROOM, FINDING YOUR ZONING MEETING.
UH, CAN WE START, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? YES, SIR.
[2. Election of officers]
UH, BEFORE WE START THE MEETING, I THINK, UM, OUR LOVELY CITY ATTORNEY OVER THERE IS GONNA, IT'S GONNA TALK ABOUT, UM, THE ELECTION OF THE NEW OFFICERS.THANK YOU, MR. OH, MEMBERS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
UM, ONE OF THE FIRST ORDERS OF BUSINESS THAT YOU HAVE TONIGHT ARE TO ELECT YOUR OFFICERS.
SEVERAL TERMS WERE APPOINTED AT THE LAST SESSION OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
AND OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES REQUIRES THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAD BOTH A CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR.
OUR RULES INDICATE THAT BOTH THE CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR MUST BE RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF NEWBURGH.
SO BEAR THAT IN MIND, AS YOU MAKE YOUR NOMINATIONS.
BEFORE WE GET INTO THAT, UM, THAT DISCUSSION, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE SINCE THERE'S NEW FACES AROUND THE TABLE FOR THE THREE NEW MEMBERS TO INTRODUCE THEMSELVES.
I KNOW KYLE, THIS IS NOT YOUR FIRST MEETING SINCE THIS IS THE OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE'RE GOING TO VISIT PEOPLE.
MAYBE WE CAN START WITH MR. BALLARD AND THEN WE'LL GO AROUND THE TABLE IN A CLOCKWISE MOTION WITH THE NEW MEMBERS INTRODUCING THE, OKAY.
I SERVED ON THE BOARD FOR FIVE YEARS AND I'M FACULTY HERE AND I'M HAPPY TO BE BACK.
OBVIOUSLY, A LOSS WILL BE YOUR FACES.
WHEN I WAS HERE BEFORE THE PREJUDICE THAT, UH, BRAD JACKSON RECENTLY APPOINTED A NEWBORN RESIDENT, LIFELONG LEARNING, UH, I CAN GET INVOLVED WITH THE SYNDROME AND THIS WAS OPEN, UH, COLLEGE HEARING.
UH, THIS IS MY SECOND MEETING HERE.
SOME OF YOU MAY KNOW ME FROM THE AMERICAN LEGION POST NINE.
I WAS PREVIOUSLY THE SERVICE OFFICER.
I RECENTLY TIME MY POSITION A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME ON THEIR HANDS, BECAUSE THAT WAS REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO, ARE YOU GOING TO GO OFF AND LEARN MORE AND REALLY GET INVOLVED WITH CITY GOVERNMENTS ALL ABOUT, YEAH.
THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR VOLUNTEERING YOUR TIME AND BEING HERE AND BEING A PART OF THE THEORY VERY IMPORTANT FOR, UH, AND NOW IT IS YOUR PREROGATIVE TO ELECTRIC OFFICERS.
IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED IN MAKING A NOMINATION, YOU MAY SUBMIT YOUR NOMINATION ON THE FLOOR.
AT THIS TIME, WE'VE BEEN NOMINATION OF TRAVIS OAKLEY, VIRGINIA.
I WOULD BE HAPPY TO VICE CHAIR.
THERE'S A NOMINATION IN A SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR OF TRAPS, OPEN SERVING AS CHAIR OF UBER PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE, ALL POST HEARING THEM.
AND SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE THE NOMINATIONS FOR VICE CHAIR.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE, UH, MR. RAYMOND LATHAM FOR DEVICE AXA.
UH, COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL MAN SET? YES, SIR.
MARSHALL BOW HERE, MOTION PASSES.
WE HAVE, WE HAD TACKLED BACK, UH, LIKE THE MOVE ON TO THE NEW BUSINESS ITEM PAY.
[3.A. Boa Nguyen has requested consideration of an application to rezone one parcel of land totaling 0.92 +/- acres from C4 neighborhood business to C3 commercial district. The parcel is located on Neuse Boulevard just north of its intersection with Midyette Avenue. The property is further identified as PID # 8-243-070.]
UH, WE HAVE A VOTE AND WHEN HAS REQUESTED CONSIDERATION OF AN APPLICATION TO REZONE ONE PARCEL OF LAND TOTAL 0.92 ACRES FROM C4 NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS TO C THREE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.THE PARCEL WAS LOCATED AT THE NEUSE BOULEVARD, OR EXCUSE ME, ON NEW SCHOOL OR JUST NORTH OF ITS INTERSECTION WITH MIDIAN AVENUE.
ID IS THE ID EIGHT DASH 2 4 3 DASH ZERO SEVEN ZEROS AND SAID, COULD WE GET A STEP OVERVIEW, UM, HAS APPLIED HERE.
Y'ALL MAY RECALL YOU CAME FOR THIS BOARD A FEW MONTHS BACK OR REGARDING AN ADJACENT PIECE OF LAND ALSO TO SEE THREE
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STORAGE UNITS ON THE TOTAL PROPERTY BACKGROUND OF THIS PROPERTY IS THE LONG-TERM COMMERCIAL USES EXISTING STRUCTURE BUILT 1971 OFFICE.ACCORDING TO TAX CONNECT RECORDS IS CURRENTLY A RETAIL TIRE SERVICE CENTER.
YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE SITE.
THE EXISTING EXISTING ZONING IS C4 NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DISTRICT ESTABLISHED USE AWARENESS PROVIDED THE RETAIL GOODS SERVICES, THE C3 COMMERCIAL DISTRICT, WHICH HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED FOR AUSTIN PERSONS OR VERBAL DISTRICT LOCATED CITIES MAJOR, UH, USING THE LOUD AND C3.
IF YOU'RE PROBABLY PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE, DESCRIBE THE DAMAGE TO THE NORTH
AND WEST IS AN EXISTING UTILITIES ARE AVAILABLE AND HE'S PLANS TO SUBJECTS THAT DEVELOPED WITH A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL KARTRA NIECES.
NO MATTER BRIAN NOW HAS ON THE PROPERTY.
THESE BOULEVARDS CLASS PRINCIPLES, NC FLOODPLAIN MAPPING PROGRAM, THE PROPERTY IS NOT LOCATED IN A HUNDRED YEAR OLD OKAY.
ON THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, T3 IS CONSISTENT WITH JASON PLAN.
USE THE SOUTH AFRICANS TO C3 AS WELL AS COMMERCIAL CLASSIFICATIONS TO THE NORTH AND EAST CROSS
GOT NO OBJECTIONS TO THE THINKING QUESTIONS THAT YOU GUYS GOT AT THIS TIME FROM ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.
SO SETH, WE ARE THIS PROPOSED USE IS 10.20 MONTH.
THAT CREDIT STORAGE WITHIN COMPLETELY INIQUITOUS STRUCTURES.
AND THAT'S WHAT PULLS ANYTHING AND C3 WELL, THE ONLY REASON I ASK IS AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT A STORAGE, UM, OUTSIDE, UM, THAT WILL REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE, BUT ALL OF THIS ALL INSIDE
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD SEEING NONE? ARE THERE ANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPOSAL? SO YOU NOW AT THIS TIME, UH, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A VOTE, UM, OR RECOMMENDING THE APPROVAL OF HIS PARCEL.
I A VOTE FROM SAY FOUR TO THREE.
I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE REQUEST.
IS THERE A SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND SET.
CAN WE GET A LITTLE BIT, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM B
[3.B. The City of New Bern has requested consideration of an application to rezone two parcels of land totaling 4.139 +/- acres split zoned (C3 commercial and R-6 residential) to entirely C-3 commercial district. The parcels are located off Broad Street and Third Avenue. The property is further identified as PID #’s 8-012-119 & 8-012-110.]
UNDER NEW BUSINESS, THE CITY OF NEWBURGH HAS REQUESTED CONSIDERATION OF AN APPLICATION TO REZONE TWO PARCELS OF LAND TOOLING, 4.139 ACRES SPLIT ZONE, C3 COMMERCIAL, AND R SIX, RESIDENTIAL TO ENTIRELY C THREE COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.THE PARCELS ARE LOCATED OFF BROAD STREET AND THIRD AVENUE PROPERTY IS FURTHER IDENTIFIED AS THE ID EIGHT DASH 0 1 2 DASH 1 1 9 AND EIGHT DASH 0 1 2 DASH 1 1 0.
IS THAT, CAN WE GET A STAFF OVERVIEW? THANK YOU, SIR.
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BACKGROUND.THIS IS THE PROPERTY FOR THE FUTURE SITE OF THE FAMILY RECREATION RECREATION CENTER UNTIL LAST WEEK, THE SITE WAS MADE UP OF ABOUT THREE DOZEN SMALLER PARSONS THAT HAVE BEEN RECOMBINED INTO THESE TWO, UM, PARCEL NUMBERS AND THE PARCEL OR THE PROPERTY WITH GIVEN MY ADDRESS AND SAY, COME ON THIRD AVENUE THIS LAST WEEK.
SO THE NUMBERS AGAIN, THE OTHER OFF SITES, 4.41 ACRES, AND IT'S GOT A MINISTRY, A MIXTURE OF RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES DURING THE SITE RIGHT NOW IS VACANT WITH, TO EITHER BE RELOCATED, PUT OUR AREA 2021 ARIEL.
IF THIS PARCEL HERE WITH SLAVES TRACK TO THE TAX MAPS AND ALL OF THIS TRACKING LINE AT AN AERIAL VIEW, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS BROAD STREET, THE RESTAURANT WAS MISSING AREAS.
HERE ARE THE EXISTING RC INDUSTRY SPECIFIC INTENT TO ENCOURAGE CONTINUED USE ATLANTA RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES, AND WE'LL DO FAMILY TO MULTIFAMILY IN 6,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS COMPATIBLE, NON RESIDENT C3, COMMERCIAL OFFICES AND SERVICES.
WE CAN ADORABLE CONVENIENCE GOODS LOCATED ON MAJOR.
IN THIS CASE, ONE OF THE TOMATO USES WITHIN C3 IS INDOOR EXERCISE FACILITIES, THE THIS RECREATION CENTER.
SO NOW I HAVE A QUICK QUESTION, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A JOB IF YOU, CAN YOU GO BACK? CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE ACTUAL, THE AERIAL THERE IS THAT INCLUDING, UM, THE AREA OF THAT HOUSE THAT, THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO MOVE AT THE
I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NAME OF IT, BUT YEAH, SO THAT INCLUDES THAT AREA AS WELL.
AND LAST I HEARD THERE WAS SOMEONE WHO WAS INTERESTED IN TAKING THE HOUSE, BUT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT'S CALLED PROCESS SUPPOSE THERE A REASON THAT'S NOT HIGHLIGHTED ON THIS MAP, THE HOUSE AND THE, UH, THE OLD RESTAURANT HEARD THAT MAP TO SHOW THE AREA THAT NEEDS TO BE RESIGNED.
THAT'S EXISTING CENTER HAS ALREADY C3 CITY IS REQUESTING THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND THANK YOU.
OR AGAIN, TO THE NORTH, THERE'S A PARK OUT THERE.
OUTDOOR RECREATIONS ARE SOUTH FIRE RESCUE HEADQUARTERS.
THEY CONTRACTED SOME COMMERCIAL OFFICES.
THERE'S AN OFFICE BUILDING IN THE BACK OUT TO THE NORTH OF THAT.
THE PLANTINGS PLAN SAID THAT PROPERTY RESIDENTIAL COMMERCIAL USES HAZARDS ARE NOW ON THE PROPERTY.
BROAD STREETS CLASSIFIED AS CURIAL GASTON BOULEVARD IS LOCAL STREETS ACROSS THE PATIENTS.
ACCORDING TO THE NC PROGRAM, TRACK ONE IS NOT LOCATED WITHIN THE A 500 YEAR FLOOD, PLAIN, A PORTION OF THE NORTH AND EAST SECTION OF TRACK.
IF I PAID THE 500 YEAR FLOOD AREA SAID THAT PROPERTY, THE C3 CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT, CONSISTENT WITH THE CHARACTER OF THE BASICALLY USES SOUTH AND EAST ALONG BROAD STREET.
THAT'S FOUND TO BE IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST AND CONSISTENT WITH CITY LAND USE AND TRANSPORTATION PLANS.
AGAIN, THE PURPOSE OF THE RESOUNDING FACILITATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A PUBLIC RECREATION FACILITY IMPROVEMENTS.
PLANNING STAFF HAS NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST.
ANY QUESTIONS AND HEARING NEW QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE, FROM THE PUBLIC THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING
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THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA.IF YOU JUST FAST, IT'S A DAYCARE CENTER, GAS.
WHAT ARE THEY GOING THROUGH? BIG DAYCARE, BUT THEY GOT ON IT.
IT'LL YEAH, IT'LL BE JUST, JUST BEHIND THAT.
THEY WON'T AFFECT THE DAYCARE SYNDROME.
NOT THAT THAT PARCEL WAS NOT INCLUDED IN THE RESENTING.
THERE'S A DAYCARE CENTER OVER THERE.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES, SIR.
WITH THE BIG HOUSE, HAVE THEY, HAVE THEY BEEN ONE? DO THEY HAVE A TAKER? UH, SETH WAS JUST SAYING IF ONE PERSON HAS SHOWN INTEREST AND WE'RE NOT SURE WHERE THEY'RE AT IN THAT PROCESS.
UM, I THINK EVERYBODY'S KIND OF WAITING TO SEE WHAT PANS OUT WITH THAT.
HOW ARE THEY GOING TO MOVE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON AFTER? YEAH, IT, IT IT'S, IT'S, UH, IT'S A LOGISTICAL CHALLENGE TO MOVE IT.
I MEAN, IT CAN BE MOVED, BUT IT'S ONLY MONEY.
MARSHALL, YOU CAN MOVE IN HAND WITH GOLD MARSHALL, UH MACY'S PARADE.
THEY MOVE ALL THE, ALL THE TOP OF LIGHT BULBS.
NO, I THINK, I THINK THE INTENT IS, IS TO TRY TO SAVE THE HOUSE AND, AND THE CHALLENGE HAS BEEN TO FIND ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT'S SUITABLE, RIGHT.
WITH A PACK OF THREE FROM DISTANCE, I GUESS, TO GET IT TO THAT SPOT.
I DON'T THINK YOU'D WANT TO CART THAT ACROSS TOWN GOT TO HELP THEM OUT AS WELL.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS? I MIGHT MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE PARCEL.
THE TWO PARCELS THAT TOW 4.1, 300 ACRES TO C3 S UH, SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WHEN WE GET A ROLL CALL.
MOTION PASSES FROM, UH, THE ORIGINAL THREE PLACES.
IT'S IT'S CLOSING THE EXISTING SATELLITE RECORDS JUST TO
[3.C. McCullough Farms, LLC has requested consideration of an application to rezone seven parcels of land totaling 413.3 +/- acres from A5-F, R-10, and R-10A to R6. The parcels are located off Trent Creek Road. The property is further identified as PID #’s: 8-210- 11002, 11003, 11004, 11006, 11009, 11010 & 23000.]
MOVING ON TO ITEM C UNDER NEW BUSINESS, UH, FARMS LLC HAS REQUESTED CONSIDERATION AND APPLICATION TO REZONE SEVEN PARCELS OF LAND TOTAL AND 413.3 ACRES FROM 85 F R 10.AND
THE PROPERTIES FURTHER IDENTIFY THE ID EIGHT DASH 2 1 0 DASH 1 1 0 2 11 0 3 11 4 11 0 6 11 0 9 11 0 1 0 2 3 0 0 0.
SO THAT'S GOING TO GIVE A STAFF OVERVIEW.
THE SITE IS A MIXTURE OF AGRICULTURE AND FOREST LANE.
PRESENTLY GOT A PHOTOGRAPH HERE AT THE DOCK OF KRAMER FOREST, LOOKING TO WHERE THE ENTRANCE FOR THE MAJORITY OF THE PROPERTY.
YOU SEE THE MULTIPLE PARCELS HERE, THIS THING
OUR 10 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT DOES NOT ACCOMMODATE.
SO I'M GOING TO FILL MY HANDS 10,000 SQUARE FOOT, LOTS OF 25,000 EACH ADDITIONAL MULTI-FAMILY
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THE 1000 SQUARE FOOT GENERAL USES IN OUR SIX SINGLE FAMILY, MULTIFAMILY CHURCHES, NURSE CARE SERVICES, VERY LITTLE IN THE WAY OF ANYTHING BEYOND RESIDENTIAL LAB.KNOWING IF YOU'VE GOT AGRICULTURE REPORTS AREAS IN THE SOUTH SAYING USES
THE 2022 UPDATED LAND USE PLAN HAS THE SUBJECT PARCELS ARE LOCATED TO THE MLK, ALL OF OUR FOCUS AREAS FOR FUTURE AS WELL AS OPPORTUNITIES AND BE AS A FUTURE EXTENSION OF NC 43.
SIX OF THESE PROPERTIES, MLK BOULEVARDS, PRINCIPAL, ARTERIAL CREEK ROADS AND SAVOY DRIVE ARE CLASSIFIED AS LOCAL STREETS, COORDINATED CTLT FUNCTIONAL CLASSIFICATION.
I KNOW THAT FUTURE NC 43 EXTENSION, ACCORDING TO THE REGIONAL USE PLAN, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS AREAS OF SUITABILITY FOR DEVELOPMENT.
NOW, IF I'M GOING TO HAVE ALL THE PROPERTY, ACCORDING TO THE NC FLOOD PLAIN MAPPING PROGRAM, NONE OF THE SUBJECT PARCELS ARE LOCATED WITHIN A YEAR OR FIVE YEAR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ASSISTANT, BUT THE CHARACTER OF THE SURROUNDING LAND USES PREVIOUSLY DEVELOPED.
NOW THE APPLICANT STAFF IS KIND OF DESIGNED TO BE IN A PUBLIC INTEREST IN CONSISTENT WITH CITY LAND USE PLAN, FOCUS AREA, AS WELL AS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE FAST.
GOT NO OBJECTION TO THE REQUEST.
THANK YOU, SEVEN HEAD AT THIS TIME, SIR.
I KNOW YOU'RE HERE TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THIS.
SO FOR JUDY OPPORTUNITY FIRST, AND THEN IF THE BOARD MEMBERS HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE CAN, WE CAN ASK YOU ABOUT IT.
IF YOU'D LIKE TO ADDRESS THE BOARD, WE'LL COME ON.
UH, THE FIRST OF ALL, MY NAME IS PATRICK I'M FROM HERE.
I USED TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD FROM ABOUT 2010 TO 20 15, 20 16 AND A DEVELOPER AND A BUILDER COMMUNITY.
AND THEN WHEN WE STARTED THE CHRYSLER FOREST WAS BACK IN 2006.
AND AFTER IN THE BUSINESS FOR ABOUT 30 YEARS AT THAT POINT AND LEARNING HOW TO DO THINGS THE WRONG WAY, A LOT OF TIME WITH THE PLANNING AND ITS OWN NEW STAFF, UM, UH, 2006, 2007, TO COME UP WITH A NEIGHBORHOOD CONCEPT THAT WAS, UH, UH, W TO CREATE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND WITH THE, UH, HOUSES CLOSE TO THE STREET, SOUNDS KIND OF STRANGE, BUT WITH SIDEWALKS ON THE FRONT PORCHES ON THE FRONT OF IT, UH, REALLY TURNED OUT TO BE VERY GOOD IDEA.
AND, UH, IT'S BEEN VERY WELL RECEIVED, A FOREST PHASES ONE AND TWO GOT OUT A COMBINATION ABOUT 300 AND INTERESTING THING.
WORKING HERE TO BUILD THAT THING OUT WITH A STRONG POA IN PLACE IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST LOOK AT NEIGHBORHOODS BECAUSE I TOOK THE TIME AND HAD THE VISION TO PLANT EARLY WITH A STRONG FEELING AND KEEP THE SAME THING.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT VERY, VERY, UH, STRONG CURB APPEAL STILL.
AND OUR HOME VALUES HAVE BEEN STABLE AND HAVE BEEN INCREASING.
AND, UH, NOW WITH REGARDS TO THE BIGGER PICTURE, OF COURSE, UH, IT'S NO SECRET THAT 43 IS COMING THROUGH AND, UH, ABOUT RIGHT HERE WHERE THE F IS, THERE'S GOING TO BE A FULL CROSSOVER INTERSECTION.
AND YOU KNOW, FOR ME, IT'S, IT'S ABOUT PROTECTING MY VISION.
YOU KNOW, I'M NOT GOING TO BE HERE FOREVER, ACTUALLY NOT HERE RIGHT NOW.
I LIVE IN, IN THE PHILIPPINES.
SO I POP IN AND OUT EVERY THREE MONTHS AND CHECK ON THINGS, BUT, UH, THINGS ARE GOING WELL, BUT I KNOW THEY'VE COME A DAY,
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UH, THAT HE WAS ALWAYS GOING TO WANT TO PICK UP THOSE COMMERCIAL CORNERS AT THAT INTERSECTION, MAYBE SOMETHING THAT'S OUTSIDE OF MY VISION, MY VISION IS, UH, DID EVERYBODY GET A CHANCE TO READ THE ARTICLE? I DID.WELL, AND THAT'S THE WHOLE THING IS MORE OF THE SAME, WHAT WE'VE GOT WORKS, AND LET'S JUST KEEP ON GOING WITH IT.
SOMEBODY SAID, WELL, WHAT ABOUT ALL THAT, YOU KNOW, ON THE WEST SIDE, THERE'S A LOT OF GROUND THAT MOST OF IT DOESN'T HAVE.
WELL, IT CAN'T GET UTILITY BACK THERE FROM ABOUT HERE.
AND FOR IT TO TURN INTO SOMETHING WITH THE BIG BOXES OR WHATEVER, THAT, THAT WOULD JUST, THAT WOULD NOT BE A GOOD LEGACY TO LEAVE THAT.
AND SO TO ME, IT'S VERY, VERY IMPORTANT THAT I GO AHEAD AND DONATE ALL THE SAME CLASSIFICATIONS THAT WAY.
IF THE BIG BOX COMES IN 10 YEARS FROM NOW, FIVE YEARS FROM NOW ON MY BUSINESS, BY THE WAY, THERE'S A CHOICE NOW IT'S NO, THERE ARE TWO OF ALL PREGNANT FOREST RESIDENTS THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK AFTER ME IF THAT'S OKAY.
UH, BUT YEAH, IT'S TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PROTECT THE FUTURE AND PROTECT THE VALUES.
AND SO WHEN, UH, WHEN THAT BIG BOX COMES UP BEFORE THIS BOARD, BEFORE IT WAS ON AN APPLICATION, THEY'VE GOT TO BASICALLY GET EVERYBODY ELSE ON BOARD.
THEY GOT TO CHANGE IT FROM OUR SIX TO A DIFFERENT ZONE SLOT, THE EASY PART, AND RELATIVELY WITHIN THE SAME DAY, UH, AGRICULTURE.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE MOTIVE FOR, OR I'M GONNA GO AHEAD AND GET IT ALL DONE AT ONE TIME, BUT PHASES THREE AND FOUR THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH READY TO GO.
PHASE THREE HAS GOT, YOU'LL PROBABLY BE SEEING THAT IN THE NEXT YEAR, TWO YEARS, 300 HOMES, YOU HAVE WATER SEWER, ALL THE OFF OFFSITE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN PHASE TWO, UH, RIGHT HERE LED TO INTEREST TO, WELL THREE, BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S NOT THE TOPIC FOR TONIGHT EITHER.
THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, MORE OF THE SAME 300 BLOCKS AND THEN THE STUFF, THE NEXT PHASE WOULD BE PHASE FOUR OVER HERE.
SO ANYHOW, UH, WITHOUT EATING THAT, THAT THE DEATH, UH, THAT'S WHY I'M HERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING FOR.
AND WE MIGHT ASK, UM, WHY ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT THIS IN HERE? WELL, THEY'RE ALL CONTIGUOUS AND GOT, UH, UH, OUR, UH, NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION, TRYING TO BUY EVERYTHING UP.
AND, UH, ANYWAY, THEY'RE NOT BEING REAL FRIENDLY WITH, UH, UH, THEIR COUNTRIES.
WELL, UH, THEIR OFFERS HAVE BEEN VERY DISAPPOINTING
AND, UH, THIS IS ABOUT THE ONLY CHANCE I GOT TO HAVE A FAIR SHOT AIRCRAFT GETTING SOMETHING FOR THIS LAND, UM, WITH THAT, UH, MADE SIMPLE TO, UH, ASK HER, WELL, ALL OF THE CALIFORNIA PROPERTY
SO WITH THAT, UM, I ALLOWED THEM TO SPEAK.
AND GIVE ME, GIVE ME ONE SECOND.
I KNOW WE HAD SOME THE MARSHALL'S YESTERDAY.
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THE BIRD BEAUTIFUL COMMUNITY.
IT'S PRETTY APPARENT THAT IT'S A GROUP OF, I LIVE IN NIGHT.
I HAVE MANY ADDITIONAL HOMES OR ARE YOU PLANNING ON BUILDING? WELL, THE FIRST I COME IN FROM NEW YORK, YOU SEE, YOUR SON IS 3,230, $9,000.
SO HOW MANY ADDITIONAL STRUCTURES THE HOME THAT YOU CAN GET UP? WE'VE GOT SEWER AND WATER AND SEWER AND INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE FOR 300.
NOW BE IN PHASE THREE AND THEN PHASE FOUR COULD BE ANOTHER 300, BUT THAT'LL PRETTY MUCH CAP IT OUT.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT 300 IN THERE.
SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU SEE HERE, WHICH IS A 300 THOUGHTS WOULD JUST BE COPIED COPY PASTE.
AND THEN THE NEXT POINT IS EAGER INGRESS AND EGRESS ACCESS FROM HERE.
THIS WILL BE A SIGNALIZED INTERSECTION, CIVILIAN DRIVE, WHICH WAS, AND I PROBABLY LOOKED FEAT, BUT I BUILT IT AS GOOD AS SERVE AS A COLLECTOR.
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AND SUPPORT GOES ALL THE WAY UP HERE.AND ULTIMATELY THERE'LL BE A CROSSOVER HERE, SO THAT WILL ALLOW US TO COPY PASTE, COPY PASTE, AND HAVE TWO WAYS IN TWO WAYS.
HOW LONG WILL THAT TAKE? HOW DOES THAT NOT LIKE THAT.
UH, BUT, UH, I WANT TO MAKE SURE IT STAYS CONSISTENT.
SO SIR, DO YOU THINK IT WOULD BE BREAKING GROUND ON PHASE THREE AFTER THE NECTAR IS BUILT? AS THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION, WE WOULD HAVE BROKE AROUND IN 2018.
UH, THEN AT THAT TIME, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I'VE, WELL, I'VE BEEN WAITING ON 43 SINCE 2000.
I DIDN'T BELIEVE IT, BUT ANYWAY, THEY THEY'D COME TO ME FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES TALKING ABOUT BUYING, BUYING.
IT ACTUALLY GOT US RESERVE THAT LAND AND THEN KNOCKED DOWN.
AND IN 2018, WE ARE READY TO JUST, I ASKED HIM THAT SHE WAS FOR THAT PROJECT WAS JUST TO STAY IN TREASURY ROAD, TWO LANES.
I DON'T HAVE TO BE INTO THE OF NOWHERE.
WE'VE DONE THE 43, BUT, UH, UH, I GOT OFF TRACK.
WELL, MY WIFE AND I, AND I THINK THE JOB IS DONE WITH THE FRAGRANT BIRDS, WITH THAT MOODLE, I THINK HAS BEEN DRILL NEXT JOB.
I KNOW IT PRETTY WELL, BUT I DON'T DO IT TODAY JUST TO LOOK AND SEE, WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PUT YOU GO? AND I'VE WONDERED ABOUT 43.
I'VE WATCHED THE DELAYS, NOT AS LONG AS YOU HAD, BUT I'VE WATCHED THEM SINCE I'M HERE SINCE 2012.
BUT, UM, THE ONLY QUESTION I HAVE ABOUT OUR SIX IS ALL SIX CAN BE ALSO, WE CAN PUT IN MOBILE HOMES, RIGHT? I THINK THAT'S WHAT HE SAYS, RIGHT? SO THAT'S MY OWN NOT CONCERN.
MY MOTHER LIVED IN A MOBILE HOME FOR 35 YEARS, HAS MY DAD DIED.
AND HE WAS A CONTRACTOR THAT NEVER WANTED TO BUY A HOUSE, BEAUTIFUL HOUSE.
IT'S ALWAYS RENTED MINISTRY DID WHEN HE DIED WITHIN A MONTH, HE CALLED ME FROM COLLEGE AND I WAS IN COLLEGE AND SHE SAID, I JUST FLOORED A MOBILE HOME.
SHE HAD BEAUTIFUL MOBILE HOME.
BUT, UH, I KNOW WE HAVE SOME ENTRENCHED FRUIT.
I'VE SOLD SOME OF THEM, VERY NICE PEOPLE, MAJORITY VAST MAJORITY OF MAINTAINED BEAUTIFULLY, BUT YOU ARE GOING TO BE DOING SINGLE FAMILY, MOSTLY HOMES THAT ARE SIX.
THAT WOULD BE THE PLAN IS TO DO MORE OF THE SAME WITH A PENA PATTY, BUT THE CREDIT BEEN FORCED TO COPY PASTE.
BUT, UH, BACK ON THAT TRAIN OF THOUGHT TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION OF WHY, WHY DIDN'T WE START IT EARLIER, UH, WITH 2018 WHEN THEY CAME TO ME, UH THAT'S WHEN THEY, UH, COME UP WITH A NEW PLAN AND SAID, WE'RE BUILDING IT.
AND THEN WE WE'VE HAD TO SET IT ON THE BACK OF THE, ON RAMP SINCE 2018.
SO ANYHOW, BUT WITH CARCINOMA HOMES, I'M NOT AWARE OF THAT PART OF THE, UH, BUT YOU CAN CORRECT WE'LL LAB FOR A CLASS, A HAS TO COME AND SEE PIECES BE A MINIMUM OF 20 FEET WIDE.
I'D WANT TO PROTECT AGAINST THAT.
AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE COME DOWN AND HELP MOBILE HOME.
SHE PASSED, I GOT 10 TIMES WHAT SHE PAID FOR IT.
SO MAYBE ANOTHER GOOD POINT TO REMEMBER IS THIS IS THE REASON OR REQUEST ANY FURTHER DEVELOPMENTS WITH LIFE.
BUT SOMETIMES WE DON'T HAVE A CHAIN OF CHOICE LATER ON.
THIS HAS HAPPENED BEFORE IN DISCUSSIONS.
SO I WAS TRYING TO TELL THE GOAL OF WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO.
AND I KNOW THEY CAN'T, ONCE IT'S DONE, WE CAN'T.
BUT I, I, I, GENTLEMEN HAS DEFINITELY, UH, EXPERIENCED AND BUILT A BEAUTIFUL SUBDIVISION ALREADY.
I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
AND, UH, SOME OTHER MECHANISM ABOUT THE RESTRICTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, UH, FROM THE DEVELOPER? ALL RIGHT.
AT THIS TIME, FOLKS, DID YOU, WOULD YOU LIKE TO INVEST IN MY NAME OR ANYTHING, OR THEY WERE ALLEN, A L A N AND JOYCE SNOPES, S W AS IN WINTER AND REASONABLY LIVE HERE 10 YEARS AGO, WHEN WE BUILT OUR HOUSE ON BUNDLE UP DRIVE, WE WERE THE FIRST HOME ON BUNDLE DRIVE IN PREGNANT FLOORS.
AND I WOULD SAY THE COMMUNITY IS PROBABLY DOUBLED IN SIZE IN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
RIGHT? WE'VE SEEN A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION DEVELOPMENT IN OUR TIME.
THERE IT'S ALL BEEN VERY ORDERLY, VERY WELL MANAGED.
UH, WE ARE DEFINITELY BENEFICIARIES OF PATRICK'S VISION AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT CONTINUE OVER TIME AS HE DESCRIBED, UH, WE SERVE ON THE POA BOARD IN CRAIGIEBURN FOREST AND NOT BECAUSE OF THAT, BUT WE FIND IT CONTINUES TO BE A REALLY WELL-MANAGED WELL-MAINTAINED COMMUNITY.
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AND WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THAT CONTINUE.AND MAYBE A BIT OF AN ULTERIOR MOTIVE.
WE HAVE A FEW FAMILY MEMBERS WHO PLAN TO RETIRE TO NEWBURN AT SOME POINT WOULD LIKELY BE BUILDING IN THE NEW PHASES HERE.
SO THAT'S WHO WE ARE AND WHY WE'RE HERE AND HOPEFULLY I'LL APPROVE IT.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE YOU GUYS TAKING THE TIME TO TALK TO US.
AT THIS POINT IN TIME, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FROM THE BOARD, I'D LIKE TO ASK.
IF WE CAN GET A MOTION, IS YOUR MOTION TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
AS THE PLAN APPROVED THIS PLAN AS PRESENTED, I HAVE A MOTION.
IS THERE A SECOND MOTION? AND THE SECOND IS THAT WHEN WE GET A ROLL CALL? YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES, YES.
THAT IS ALL THE ITEMS FOR NEW BUSINESS.
UH, IF THERE IS NOTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD OR OUR CITY ATTORNEY OR DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, ASK SOMEBODY TO MAKE THAT MOTION TO ADJOURN.
SO I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, SECOND, THE SECOND SET ROLL CALL.