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ALL RIGHT,[1. Welcome]
EVERYONE.WELCOME TO THE OCTOBER 4TH MEETING FOR THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE.
UM, EVERYONE HERE WE IS GONNA WELCOME MS. HAZEL ROYAL WITH US AS THE, UM, ALDERMAN FOR WARD TWO.
SHE NOW WILL SEE IT ON THIS COMMITTEE.
UM, AND MR. MORGAN, WOULD YOU MIND GIVING PRAYER FOR US? ABSOLUTELY.
IF WE COULD ALL BOW OUR HEADS, PLEASE, DAVID, TO FOLLOW.
WE COME TO YOU ONCE AGAIN, FIRST TO SAY THANK YOU.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING US IN THIS PLACE.
AT THIS TIME, WE ASK THAT YOU NOT ONLY COME INTO THIS MEETING, BUT YOU REMAIN IN THE MEETING.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU TOUCH OUR MINDS AND TOUCH OUR HEARTS, AND HAVE US TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT ARE PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT.
GIVE US THE STRENGTH AND GIVE US THE COURAGE TO BE ABLE TO DEBATE IN THE CORRECT WAY, TO BE ABLE TO FIND ANSWERS.
AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THOSE ANSWERS, GIVE US THE COURAGE AND THE STRENGTH AND THE KNOWLEDGE TO BE ABLE TO KNOW WHERE TO GO GET THOSE ANSWERS.
LORD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS EVERYONE WHO'S HERE.
BLESS EVERYONE WHO'S ON THE WAY, AND BLESS ALL OF THOSE THAT COULD NOT BE HERE.
NOW, AT THIS TIME, WE'LL SAY APLE OF ALLEGIANCE.
YOU'LL STAND PLEASE MY PLEDGE.
ALLEG TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC BEFORE ONE NATION UNDER GOD INVISIBLE LIBERTY, JUSTICE.
JAMES, IF YOU'LL DO YOUR ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
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I THINK WE, UH, SENT THE MINUTES OUT FOR THE LAST MEETING WE HAD WAS MAY 17TH.IF EVERYBODY HAD A OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THOSE.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, COMMENTS, UH, IF NOT, IF WE CAN HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES, MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE MINUTES GIVEN DURING THAT TIME, IF NECESSARY CHANGE.
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RIGHT.SO THE BIG THING THAT WE'RE HERE TONIGHT TO DISCUSS, UM, IS THE HISTORY WALL.
UM, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, I JUST WANT TO GIVE EVERYBODY A GENERAL UPDATE ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE DESIGN FOR THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER.
UM, AS OF MONDAY, THE SITE PLAN WAS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR, UM, DESIGN REVIEW BY THE PEOPLE WITHIN THE CITY WHO LOOK AT ALL PLANS.
UM, THEY'LL GIVE THEIR COMMENTS ON THAT AND SEND IT BACK, UM, TO THE, UM, DESIGN FIRM CPL.
UM, THEY CURRENTLY HAVE ABOUT 80% OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS COMPILED.
UM, AND THEY'RE HOPING BY THE MIDDLE OF OCTOBER TO HAVE A HUNDRED PERCENT OF DECONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS COMPLETED.
UM, AND THEN BY THE END OF OCTOBER, THEY WILL BEGIN SUBMITTING, UM, FOR BUILDING PERMITS.
ALSO, THEY WILL BE WORKING ON THE, UM, PROPOSAL TO GO OUT FOR BID SO THAT WE CAN, UH, GET SOMEONE WHO IS GOING TO BE CONSTRUCTING THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER.
SO THEY'RE MOVING ALONG REALLY NICELY.
UM, I THINK YOU GUYS WILL BE VERY PLEASED WITH WHAT YOU SEE ONCE THOSE PLANS COME OUT.
UM, IT LOOKS PHENOMENAL WHAT THEY'VE DONE SO FAR.
IT'S GOING TO BE A WONDERFUL CENTER AND, UH, RECREATION SITE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STATUS AT THIS TIME? THE ONLY THING I DID DECIDE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA DO WITH THAT HOUSE, UM, I DO NOT HAVE INFORMATION.
I KNOW THEY ARE STILL REVIEWING, UM, APPLICATIONS FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE INTERESTED IN OBTAINING THAT HOUSE.
UM, BUT I HAVE NO, UH, INTERACTION ABOUT THAT.
SO I DO KNOW THEY WERE REVIEWING SOME VIABLE CANDIDATES.
THE INFORMATION, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH PERSON I GOT IT FROM, BUT IT SAYS SOMEBODY
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CALL, MIGHT CALL HER WRONG NAME, SAID THE PERSON WENT, THE BUILDING IS IN, CHARGED THE BUILDING NOW, AND THAT PERSON IS GONNA BE HE WILLING TO MOVE IT.I JUST WANNA KNOW, I MYSELF WANT KNOW WHEN HE GONNA MOVE IT.
ONE OF THE TOP PEOPLE SHOULD, SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.
I, I HAVEN'T BEEN GIVEN ANY INFORMATION, SO I GOT THAT LAST MONTH.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A, A, A PERSONAL COMMENT IF, IF I MAY.
UM, I WANTED TO PUBLICLY GO ON THE RECORD, UH, THANKING NEW BERN PARKS AND, AND REX.
I'VE BEEN KEEPING AN EYE OUT ON THE FORMER STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER, UH, LOTS.
AND I'M VERY PLEASED TO SAY THAT I DID SEE WHERE THEY, UH, LESS THAN 30 DAYS AGO, WHERE THEY BROUGHT UP SOME OLD RUBBLE, RE REMOVED IT IN A TIMELY MANNER, RESURFACED THE BASKETBALL COURTS, THE BASKETBALL COURTS ARE BEING USED ON A DAILY BASIS BY THOSE THAT NEED THEM, WHICH ARE THE, THE YOUTH.
THEY'RE GOING OUT, THEY'RE PLAYING BASKETBALL.
THE, UM, LOT AND THE GROUNDS ARE WELL LIT AT NIGHT.
UH, IT, IT, IT'S BEEN UPKEEP VERY, VERY NICELY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO GO ON RECORD TO SAY THAT IT'S, IT'S REALLY HEARTWARMING TO SEE THAT THAT LOCATION IS STILL BEING LOOKED AT AND REVERED AS A SAFE HAVEN AND IT'S BEING USED FOR THE PROPER USAGE.
AND I JUST WANNA TELL YOU THANK YOU.
AND HOPEFULLY WE HAVE EVEN MORE GOOD THINGS TO COME OUT THERE WITH THE RENOVATIONS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE DOING.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? OKAY, IF NOT, WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE FUN STUFF.
UM, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE HISTORY WALL THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO HAVE INSIDE THE RECREATION CENTER ONCE IT'S COMPLETED.
UM, THE DESIGN TEAM AND THE INTERIOR DESIGNER WHO WAS WORKING ON THE PLANS FOR THE RECREATION CENTER HAD ASKED FOR US TO PROVIDE INPUT ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AS FAR AS A HISTORY WALL GOES.
UM, I THINK EVERYBODY WAS GIVEN A PACKET.
UM, THESE ARE JUST A FEW EXAMPLES OF, UM, WHAT SOME HISTORY WALLS LOOK LIKE.
UM, THIS IS BY NO MEANS WHAT OURS HAVE TO LOOK LIKE, BUT IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO SEE AND TO GET INPUT FROM YOU GUYS ON WHAT YOU THINK WOULD PROVIDE A NICE LEGACY FOR THE AREA, FOR THE CENTER FOR STANLEY WHITE.
UM, AND I THINK THERE'S MANY OF YOU THAT HAVE A LOT OF, UH, INFORMATION ON THE HISTORY OF THE AREA.
SO I VERY MUCH WANT TO HEAR YOUR INPUT ON WHAT YOU THINK SHOULD GO ON THIS WALL.
UM, JUST SO I CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO THE INTERIOR DESIGNER ON WHAT SHE SHOULD BE WORKING TOWARDS.
SO AS, AS WE GO THROUGH OPTION ONE, WE, WE KIND OF PUT OPTIONS, LISTED OPTIONS ON HERE.
SO IF YOU SAW ONE THAT STOOD OUT TO YOU OR YOU REALLY LIKE TO LAYOUT OF IT, WE CAN KIND OF IDENTIFY WHAT THOSE OPTIONS ARE.
UM, THAT IT HASN'T, A LOCATION INSIDE THE BUILDING HAS NOT BEEN IDENTIFIED, BUT IT DOES NEED TO BE A WHILE.
THAT'LL BE A LINEAR SURFACE, YOU KNOW, A PRETTY GOOD SIZE WALL THAT PEOPLE WILL SEE FREQUENTLY AS THEY'RE WALKING THROUGH THE CENTER.
UM, THERE'S ONE AREA WHERE THERE'S A CORRIDOR THAT GOES DOWN TO THE MEETING ROOMS THAT'S KIND OF, UM, TWO TO SIDE OF ONE OF THE ENTRANCE TO THE FIRST LEVEL GYM.
I'M KIND OF ENVISIONED THAT AREA AS BEING A POSSIBILITY.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS POSITION IT, WE CAN GET TO THAT, YOU KNOW, ONCE WE GET TO DESIGN PLANS.
UM, SO, BUT IT'S GONNA BE A PRETTY GOOD SIZE WALL.
UM, AND HOPEFULLY, YOU KNOW, OF COURSE FUNDING HAS EFFECT ON EVERYTHING, BUT WE WANT TO HAVE SOME DIFFERENT OPTIONS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE WE GET THE BEST OPTION FOR THE MONEY.
SO, UM, IF YOU GUYS WANT TO GO THROUGH, UM, MAKE COMMENTS ON THE OPTIONS WE HAVE HERE.
IF YOU HAVE OTHER IDEAS THAT YOU THINK WOULD
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BE, UM, A GOOD CHOICE, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR 'EM.WELL, IN MY MIND, I REALLY, IT NEEDS TO BE, UH, PLACED IN THE AREA WHERE IF I COME TO THE RESERVE, A ROOM OR WHATEVER NEEDS TO BE IN AN AREA WHERE EVERYONE WILL SEE IT WHEN THEY ENTER.
BECAUSE IF, IF I RESERVE A ROOM AND I GO DIRECTLY TO THAT ROOM, IT MAY NOT BE WHERE THAT WALL IS LOCATED.
AND SO MOST PEOPLE MAY NOT GO ROOM AROUND THE WHOLE PLACE, YOU KNOW, ESPECIALLY IF THE ELDER, THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND GO OUT.
SO IT NEEDS TO BE IN MAYBE THREE OR FULL CENTRAL LOCATIONS WHERE WHEN YOU COME IN, YOU, IT'S GONNA CATCH YOUR EYE, NOT BE RIGHT, YOU KNOW, A BIG WALL AROUND THE CORNER.
AND WHEN I COME IN THE ENTRY, I GO RIGHT INTO THAT, THAT MEDIUM ROOM.
SO I DON'T WANT TO BE MENTIONED.
HAS A SLOGAN BEEN IDENTIFIED? I'M LOOKING AT THE SLOGANS ON, ON THESE DIFFERENT OPTIONS, SUPPORTING THE GREATER GOOD, UM, PLACE OF PURPOSE, BUILT FOR GOOD, WALK THROUGH HISTORY.
HAS A SLOGAN BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR THE IMAGES? NO, MA'AM.
WE HAVE NOT IDENTIFIED ANYTHING YET.
THIS IS ALL STARTING FROM SCRATCH.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS AND WHAT I'M DOING IS COMPARING THEM, AND I'M SEEING A FEW OPTIONS THAT I HAVE ISSUE WITH AS IT RELATES TO THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE PICTURES, THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE, UM, INFORMATION.
AND SOME OF THEM ARE FRAMED, SOME OF THEM ARE FREESTANDING.
BUT THE ONE THAT I LIKE THAT IS MOST EDUCATIONAL AND MOST INVITING IS OPTION THREE.
IT JUST HAS AN EDUCATIONAL FEEL TO IT.
IT ALSO HAS A WARM FEEL TO IT THAT IT ALMOST INVITES YOU TO COME TO LEARN MORE, WHERE IT HAS OUR FOUNDERS.
DATES ARE ALWAYS IMPORTANT BECAUSE DATES ARE ACTUAL AND FACTUAL.
WHEN YOU CAN PINPOINT A DATE AND PINPOINT A TIME, THEN IT WILL HAVE YOU TO RECALL A CERTAIN TIME.
A LOT OF THESE OTHER ONES, UM, I JUST TAKE ISSUE WITH THE SIZE OF SOME OF THE PICTURES, SOME OF THE PICTURES NOT BEING, UM, AS WELL DEPICTED AND NOT HAVING A HEADACHE, A HEADING THAT YOU COULD STAND BACK FROM AND SEE.
OF COURSE, OPTION FIVE JUST LOOKS TO BE PICTURES AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED.
AND THERE'S NO REAL HISTORY VALUE THERE.
BUT OPTION THREE IS JUST INVITING TO ME AND IT MAKES ME WANT TO LEARN WHAT MAKES ME WANT TO TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AND TO HAVE A THIRST FOR WHAT IS WRITTEN.
AND THAT'S JUST PERSONALLY, THAT'S JUST MY PERSONAL OPINION.
MS. MASSEY, I WANT YOU TO BE HEARD.
BUT, UM, ALSO A COMBINATION OF THREE AND TWO.
I THINK SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE STANDING THERE WAITING FOR THEIR PARENTS TO COME THEIR LOVE, GIVE THEM AN EXPERIENCE, LET THEM EXPERIENCE THE HISTORY, NOT JUST READ ABOUT IT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY THERE, BUT THEY MAY HAVE HEARD THE STORIES.
SO GIVING THEM A LITTLE, MAYBE AUDITORY OR SOMETHING THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, KEEP THEM FOCUSED ON WHILE THEY'RE WAITING, UM, I THINK WOULD ALLOW FOR, UH, A LOT MORE ENGAGEMENT WHEN, UM, WHEN OUR KIDS ARE IN THERE.
ESPECIALLY IF THERE OUR GUESTS THAT ARE STANDING AROUND WAITING FOR A TEAM TO START TO GIVE THEM SOMETHING TO WALK ALONG AND LOOK AT.
BUT I THINK IT'S, UM, AWESOME, AWESOME IDEA.
UM, MY THINK I WANT TO ASK ABOUT WOULD ANY OF THE HISTORY, LIKE BE FROM CEDAR STREET TOO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT TIES IN RIGHT? WITH STANDARD WHITE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE HISTORY OF, UH, WE HAD KINDERGARTEN AND EVERYTHING ELSE COMING AT, AT CEDAR STREET.
AND LIKE I SAID, THAT TIES INTO THE STANDARD WHITE.
UH, IT JUST, THE TENSION OF WHAT IS GOING ON AND CEDAR THE STREET.
UM, I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT NEED, THAT'LL HAVE TO BE DECIDED.
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PUT ON THIS HISTORY WALL? IS IT JUST GONNA BE ABOUT THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER? IS IT GONNA BE A WRAP ABOUT THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY? UM, I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT.I THINK ALL ABOVE, ALL OF THOSE ABOVE.
UM, ONE THING, IF, IF YOU EVER GO DOWN TO THE COMMERCE, UM, DOWN IN GREENVILLE EXACTLY WHAT WE TALKING ABOUT, THEY HAVE A WALKTHROUGH IN THE PARK OF ALL THE HISTORY OF THE DOCTORS, THE TEACHERS, THE COMMUNITIES THAT WERE DESCRIBE, YOU KNOW, ALL, ALL OUR HISTORY.
UH, IF YOU EVER GO DOWN THERE, THAT'LL GIVE YOU A GREAT IDEA OF WHAT WE NEED INSIDE.
WHERE DID YOU SAY THAT WAS? LIKE, THIS IS AT GREEN, UH, GREENVILLE PARK.
DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONE? IT'S STILL THE ONE DOWN BY THE WATER COMMONS.
IS IT GREEN? I THINK IT'S CALLED COMMONS.
IT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM THE FEDERAL COURT.
WHEN KIDS COME IN, UH, THEY GOING BE RECEIVED NEW BURN, BLACK DOCTORS, BLACK DENTIST, PICTURE OF PEOPLE THAT WERE THERE WHEN WE GREW UP.
WELL, THAT GOES BACK TO YOU, MR. PENDO SAID, HE SAID, UH, KINDERGARTEN WAS ON CEDAR STREET AND I GREW UP CEDAR ON CEDAR STREET, BUT BEFORE THEY MOVED TO CEDAR STREET, KIDS MY AGE AND EVERYTHING, WE KNOW WE HAD IT RIGHT THERE ON THE CENTER.
SO WHEN YOU START MENTIONING CERTAIN THINGS, IF YOU CAN CALL OUT SOMETHING THAT IT'LL GO THE WAY BACK.
SOMEBODY HOLDING ME BEFORE THE, BUT WHEN I'M COMING ON TO DIDN'T, BEFORE I START THE SCHOOL, I HEAR THE OLDER PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT, WELL, YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO GO TO SCHOOL.
I WAS A LITTLE KID, BUT THEN THEY, THEY STARTED KENNY, I DON'T WANT TO GET ALL ALL INTO DEPTH CAUSE THERE'S A BIG STIR BEHIND THAT.
ONE OF THE THINGS IS, IS DIFFICULT TO PLAN WITHOUT KNOWING YOUR SPACE.
IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HISTORY AND WHAT WE WANT TO INCORPORATE INTO IT, THEN IF WE ARE REACHING HOW, HOWEVER WE DETERMINE HOW FAR TO REACH BACK, OF COURSE, I AGREE, MR. PENDA, YOU CAN'T TALK STANLEY WHITE WITHOUT TALKING CEDAR STREET, UH, RECREATION CENTER BECAUSE THAT IS, UH, ONE OF THE STARTING POINTS AS WELL AS CRAIG AND TERRACE.
BUT THEN WE ARE TALKING ABOUT SPACE.
UH, I THINK THAT WE COULD BETTER PLAN IF WE KNEW HOW MUCH SPACE WE HAD AND HOW FAR THIS WAS STRETCHED.
BUT TRYING TO INCORPORATE AND GET ALL OF THESE THINGS AS THE VIDEO IS AN AWESOME IDEA.
I AGREE TOTALLY WITH OPTION NUMBER THREE.
BUT AGAIN, SPACE, THAT IS WHAT'S CRITICAL AND THAT WILL DETERMINE ACTUALLY, UH, WHAT WOULD BE PLACED THERE.
WELL, ONCE, UM, WE HAVE THE, UM, FINAL CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, WHICH SHOULD HOPEFULLY BE BY THE END OF OCTOBER, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY THIS SPACE.
UM, BUT I DID WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING TO TAKE BACK TO THE DESIGN TEAM TO LET 'EM KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT, AND THEY CAN HELP BETTER DETERMINE WHICH AREA, YOU KNOW, IS GONNA FIT THE BEST IN.
UM, SO IF WE CAN, YOU KNOW, COME BACK AND HAVE A MEETING IN NOVEMBER, WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE MORE INFORMATION, ACTUAL DIMENSIONS AND AREAS THAT WOULD WORK FOR THE WHILE.
MR. PENDER HAD A GOOD, A VERY GOOD, UM, POINT WHEN HE SPOKE ABOUT THE KINDERGARTEN.
UM, I TOO ATTENDED KINDERGARTEN AND I RECALL THE CLASS PICTURES, AND THIS WAS BACK IN 1965 IS WHEN WE HAD THE TEAM, WELL, THE, THE, UH, CLASS PICTURES.
AND THERE WAS EVERY CLASS THAT WAS REPRESENTED THAT I KNOW OF FROM AT LEAST 1965 ON UP TO THE EARLY SEVENTIES.
AND THOSE THAT ARE MY AGE AND MAYBE A LITTLE YOUNGER AND MAYBE EVEN A LITTLE OLDER, WHENEVER WE WOULD BE IN THE RECREATION CENTER, YOU COULD GO AND FIND YOUR YOURSELF ON THESE PICTURES BECAUSE THEY WERE ON DISPLAY.
AND I GUESS ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS, WHERE ARE THOSE PICTURES? DO WE STILL HAVE ACCESS TO THOSE? NO, WE LOST A LOT OF THEM IN THE, THE AND.
UH, I STILL HAVE MY, MY CLASS PICTURE.
BUT, AND YOU KNOW, THERE WERE, WE LOST A LOT IN THE OTHER, NOT THE BIG STORM, BUT WE LOST SOME IN THE OTHER FLOODING.
WE GOT IN INTO STORAGE AREA AND, AND MESSED SOME OF THE PHOTOS UP.
WE WAS ABLE TO, SOME PEOPLE, WE SAVAGE NOT, NOT JUST WITH THE KINDERGARTEN, BUT THERE WERE SUMMER TRIPS DOWN TO THE BEACH.
I THINK I SAW YOU IN ONE OF THOSE OLD
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PHOTOS.AND I SPEAK OF A SAFE HAVEN BECAUSE THERE WEREN'T A LOT OF OTHER THINGS GOING ON IN THE AREA, BUT THAT WAS ONE PLACE THAT YOU KNEW YOU COULD BE SAFE.
YOUR PARENTS KNEW YOU WOULD BE SAFE.
AND THOSE THAT WERE ON STAFF THERE, SUCH AS MR. PENDER KEPT US SAFE AND MADE US FEEL SAFE.
THE THE SECOND THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION IS WE HAVE TO HAVE PARAMETERS.
WE COULD FILL UP A WALL VERY EASY.
WE, WE COULD FILL UP THESE, THESE WALLS IF YOU WANTED TO GO ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE FIRE TO WHAT HAPPENED ON KIL MARNIC STREET, IF YOU WANTED TO GO BACK TO SEGREGATION TO WHERE WE HAD MORE, UM, BLACK DOCTORS, DENTISTS, UH, WE, WE WERE SELF-SUFFICIENT BECAUSE WE HAD TO BE BECAUSE OF SEGREGATION.
UH, THERE WERE CLEANERS, THERE WERE DENTISTS, THERE WERE, THERE WERE SURGEONS.
WE HAD, I MEAN WE HAD, UM, PHARMACISTS, WE HAD, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE, WE HAD EVERYTHING RIGHT THERE IN THE FIVE POINT AREA.
OR YOU CAN GO BACK TO THE SEVENTIES TO WHEN INTEGRATION AND THEN THOSE THAT WHAT WE CALL FRIENDS OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, NOT JUST PEOPLE THAT WERE BLACK.
UH, THERE WERE A LOT OF DOCTORS THAT CAME IN.
STOCKTON WAS ONE THAT CAME IN AND WHEN IT WASN'T VERY POPULAR AMONGST SOME OF HIS COLLEAGUES, HE WOULD COME OVER.
AND WHETHER THEY WERE HOME BIRTHS OR WHETHER THEY WERE BIRTHS DOWN AT GOOD SHEPHERD HOSPITAL, HE FREQUENT IN THERE.
SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE PARAMETERS YEAH.
TO SAY HOW MUCH YOU WANT TO ACCENTUATE THIS PERIOD, THIS AREA, OR WHAT YOU HAVE AVAILABLE TO YOU.
BECAUSE WE COULD FILL UP THE WHOLE WALL, BUT IT HAS TO HAVE A FLOW TO IT ALSO.
AND IT HAS TO HAVE A POSITIVE FLOW.
WE DON'T WANT TO PUT IT NOW, WE GOING THE, THE, THE TRUTH.
WE DEFINITELY GOTTA HAVE PARAMETERS FOR IT.
UM, AND YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAID, MISS HAZEL SAID, COMING UP WITH A SLOGAN FOR SOMETHING AND YOU KNOW, THIS COMMITTEE'S GONNA PLAY A BIG PART IN THAT.
UM, AND I THINK IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU GUYS TO BE ABLE TO GIVE INPUT FOR THIS CENTER AND WHAT IT MEANS TO THE COMMUNITY.
I ALSO THINK, UM, A GOOD IDEA AS WELL WOULD BE, SINCE WE HAD SO MANY BLACK DOCTORS IN THIS COMMUNITY, IS MAYBE IF WE HAVE A NURSE'S STATION OR A COMMUNITY HEALTH WORKER OFFICE EXTENDING THAT HISTORY INTO THAT OFFICE AND PUTTING A PLAQUE UP THERE THAT MAY MENTION THE DOCTORS MAKE IT MAKE SENSE WHILE THEY'RE SITTING IN THERE WAITING FOR TREATMENT.
THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE HISTORY OF THE DOCTORS THAT WERE IN THE AREA.
IF THEY HAVE A, A PLACE WHERE YOU CAN COPY OR PRINT MAYBE A SMALL SECTION, THE PRINT OFF DOCUMENTS OR WHATEVER, THEN WE PUT BLACK BUSINESS HISTORY RIGHT THERE AS THEY'RE WAITING FOR THEIR DOCUMENTS TO BE PRINTED OR TO USE THE COMPUTER SOMEWHERE WHERE YOU HAVE PEOPLE SITTING AND IT MAKES SENSE.
POSSIBLY GIVEN OH TO THE, UM, THE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY, THE SIGNS THAT ARE AROUND THE COMMUNITY, SOMEWHERE IN THERE MENTIONING THAT, YOU KNOW, THIS HISTORY JUST ISN'T INSIDE OF THIS BUILDING, BUT YOU CAN TAKE IT WITH YOU AND GO OUTSIDE AND SEE THESE 13 SIGNS THAT ARE AROUND, YOU KNOW, THE, THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY CAN READ AS WELL.
SO JUST REMINDING CHILDREN THAT YOUR HISTORY JUST ISN'T IN HERE.
BUT YOU CAN ALSO GO OUT IN THE COMMUNITY AND SEE THESE PLACES FOR YOURSELVES AND READ THESE SIGNS THAT ARE OUT THERE AMONGST THE COMMUNITY ALREADY.
THAT WAY WE'RE BRINGING IN THE OLD AND THE NEW TOGETHER AND, AND LETTING THEM KNOW WHAT ELSE IS OUT THERE, WHERE ELSE CAN YOU GET THIS INFORMATION AT.
UM, JUST THE THOUGHT OF HOW WE CAN TRY TO BRING THINGS TOGETHER THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE, UM, IN A MANNER THAT KIND OF MAKES SENSE.
BUT I, WE GO RIGHT BACK TO WHAT MISS HAZEL SAID, CUZ YOU WAS TALKING ABOUT POSITION.
WE REALLY CAN'T TELL UNTIL WE GET THE LAYOUT MM-HMM.
CAUSE I MEAN, ALL THESE IDEAS ARE GOOD, BUT WE STILL CAN'T USE 'EM UNTIL WE KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA PUT 'EM.
WELL, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO START THE CONVERSATION AND, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT THE DIRECTION AND EACH MEMBER CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT IT.
AND BY THE TIME WE HAVE THE NEXT MEETING, HOPEFULLY HAVE THE PLANS AND, YOU KNOW, MAYBE YOU GUYS CAN IDENTIFY THE AREAS THAT YOU THINK THE PARAMETERS.
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I I, MAYBE I ALREADY TOUCHED THIS, BUT, UH, THERE WERE SOME CONCEPTS AND THERE WAS TWO CONCEPTS, ONE OR TWO THAT YOU GUYS WERE GONNA GO WITH.SO IT SEEMS THAT THE LAYOUTS SHOULD ALREADY BE DETERMINED BECAUSE WE, THE PER THE MEETING WE HAD OVER THERE AT THE OMEGA CENTER, UH, THERE WAS A MEETING WHERE YOU KIND OF WENT AND SAID, HEY, THIS IS WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE IN EACH ROOM.
THEN I HAVE A DOCUMENT, I WISH I OUGHT HAVE BROUGHT IT WITH ME, BUT IT HAS THE LAYOUT AND THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF EACH ROOM.
SO IS THAT NOT ALREADY DETERMINED? YEAH, THE SITE PLAN IS, BUT THE SITE PLAN HAS JUST BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE CITY FOR DESIGN REVIEW MM-HMM.
BUT SOME OF THAT, I GUESS JUST THERE, THERE IS A PLAN THAT IS THAT FOLKS FROM THE CITY WORKING WITH CP AND L.
SO THEN THERE, THERE'S PROBABLY ALREADY A GOOD FOUNDATION OF WHAT THAT BUILDING'S GONNA LOOK LIKE AS WHAT OH YEAH, THERE IS, THERE'S A SITE PLAN.
SO THEN WITH THAT, IS THAT NOT APPROPRIATE? SO I GUESS I'M COMING IN ON, I'M LATE AS USUAL, MISS ROYAL.
UM, BUT I, I, UH, MAYBE I ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS.
SO THEN WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE AGENDA OF THIS PARTICULAR MEETING? JUST TALKING ABOUT THE OPTIONS FOR THE HISTORY? WELL, IT'S TALKING ABOUT HISTORY, ALL GETTING SOME INPUT SO I CAN GIVE THE DIRECTION TO THE INTERIOR, UM, THE INTERIOR DESIGNER TO GIVE THEM, START GIVING THEM DIRECTION ON WHAT TYPE OF ELEMENT, LIKE WHAT GENERAL DESIGN WE'RE LOOKING AT INTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
THEN ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS YOU SAY AND, AND WE HAVE SOME ARCHIVES OVER AT THE OMEGA CENTER.
SO WE HAVE SOME ARCHIVES OF TEAMS FROM CEDAR STREET FROM 1954.
SOME OF THOSE AREAS WE HAVE SOME ARCHIVES OF WALK, BELLA, ME, WE HAVE SOME ARCHIVES OF STANLEY WHITE.
UH, AND THEY IS, SO THERE'S ABOUT A GOOD 15 TO 20 OLD PICTURES FROM CEDAR STREET, JIM, THAT WE STILL DO HAVE, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE IN REGARDS TO THE DIRECTION YOU GOING.
MY QUESTION IS, UH, ANYBODY HAVE ANY PICTURES OF MS. MARTIN? SHE WAS REALLY THE CENTER DIRECTOR.
UH, MS. MARTIN WAS THE CENTER DIRECTOR STANDING WAS THE ATHLETIC HE FOUND.
BUT MS. MARTIN, SHE WAS INSTRUMENTAL AND, UH, HER, HER GRANDSON, JOHN MARTIN, WHO LIVES IN TENNESSEE THAT I KEEP UP WITH AND IN TOUCH WITH, HE HAS QUITE A FEW.
YEAH, MS. PERLER MADE MARTIN, I DID SEE, SEE HER IN A FEW PICTURES THAT YOU HAD, BUT I KNOW JOHN HAS SOME.
SHE, SHE WAS THE CENTER DIRECTOR AND STANLEY WAS, UH, BEST CHECK PLAYER IN THE WORLD.
UH, SHE HAD, UH, STARTED THE FIRST REALLY SENIOR CITIZEN CLUB IN, IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA THAT YOU, SOME SENIORS WERE THE OLDEST IN THE STATE.
UNFORTUNATELY ALL THE MEMBERS BASICALLY HAD PASSED ON.
BUT, UH, SHE WAS DOING THAT BACK IN THE SIXTIES, YOU KNOW, ALONG WITH SENIORS AND THEY WERE TRAVELING EVERYWHERE.
AND I THINK THAT'S SOME OF THE HISTORY WE NEED TO KNOW AND BRING TO THE TABLE.
SO WE DO KNOW WHAT WE, WHAT WANTS, YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO BE PUT ON THE WALL OR WHAT PEOPLE WANT TO SEE ON THE WALL.
UM, MOST OF US OLDER, OLDER PEOPLE WE COME UP WITH MISS PERLE MA MM-HMM.
MISS PERLEY, MAY YOU SLIDE RIGHT OVER SIDE.
WHERE YOU GUYS AT WITH THE CONVERSATION OF HENDERSON PARK AS FAR IS THE DEVELOPMENT IN HENDERSON PARK? I KNOW THEY GOT THE BASKETBALL COURT OUT THERE, BUT WHERE YOU GUYS AT IN REGARDS TO THE CONVERSATION AND AMENITIES THAT'S GONNA BE PUT OUT THERE? UM, THEY HAVE, UM, WORKED ON THE PLANS.
YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE COST AND THINGS LIKE THAT BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA BE REBUILDING THE RESTROOM.
SO WE'RE IN THE CONVERSATION STAGE OF HOW WE'RE GONNA DO ALL THESE ITEMS. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SOME FUNDING THAT WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO USE JUST FOR HENDERSON PARK.
SO THE LAYOUT THE GUYS SHOWED LAST WEEK, UM, AT THE ONE ON ONE CLASS, WHERE'S THE REST OF THAT FOOTPRINT AS FAR AS THE BASEBALL FIELD, THE FOOTBALL FIELD? WHERE'S THE CONVERSATION IN REGARDS TO THAT? IT'S BACK THERE.
WE'RE HOPING TO GET, UM, ADDITIONAL LIGHTING ON THOSE FIELDS.
BUT MORE OR LESS MAKING 'EM, UM, MORE USABLE BY ADDING THE LIGHTING.
WHEN WOULD THAT CONVERSATION BE? WHEN WOULD THAT KIND OF BE A FOCAL POINT? IS IT, IS IT FUNDS OR WHAT IS THE KIND OF THE, THE HOLD UP IN REGARDS TO THAT? CAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS KIND OF A BIG, SOME OF IT FUNDS SOME OF IT'S TIMING, YOU KNOW, GETTING TO THAT POINT.
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HAVE A GOOD PLAN IN PLACE AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ALL TO GO AHEAD FROM FEMA MM-HMM.SO IT'S JUST PUTTING THOSE PLANS INTO ACTION.
SO NEXT STEPS IS JUST KIND OF GETTING, UH, FOOTPRINT FROM APPROVED MM-HMM.
AND WHAT, WHICH OPTION DID YOU GUYS SUBMIT TO GO WITH? FOR THE RECREATION CENTER? YES.
IT'S THE REGIONAL DESIGN THAT HAD TO DOUBLE GYM.
UM, I THINK THE SQUARE FOOTAGE WAS AROUND 36,000, SOMEWHERE AROUND THERE.
IT WAS IN, I THOUGHT IT WAS IN A LIKE 29, 26 AGO.
SO THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE LAYOUT THAT EVERYONE GOT AT A PRIOR MEET.
I, I STILL HAVE IT, BUT IT WAS TWO CONCEPTS.
SO IT'S THE ONE THAT HAD THE DOUBLE, THE DOUBLE GYM, THE WALKWAY, I MEAN THE WALKING TRACK UPSTAIRS.
LIKE THE DESIGN WALL, THE HISTORY WALL, UH, ARE THEY STILL UTILIZING THE ECU GROUP TO DO THAT? THE ARTISTS? OR DID THAT DISSIPATE? I'M NOT SURE BECAUSE I ACTUALLY WASN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN THAT.
THAT WAS THROUGH DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES, I BELIEVE.
UM, SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THAT STANDS.
BUT I MEAN, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD OPTION, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO GET INPUT FROM SOME OF THESE GROUPS THAT HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH LARGE SCALE OR OKAY.
BUT YEAH, I WASN'T INVOLVED WITH THAT.
UM, THE ONLY REASON WHY I'M ASKING IS BECAUSE EVEN AT THE TIME WHEN IT WAS PRESENTED, I WAS WONDERING, YOU KNOW, KIND OF WHERE DID THE, THE GROUP COME FROM? AND I MEAN, THEY KIND OF GAVE US THE BACKSTORY, BUT, UM, JUST WHY IN PARTICULAR THAT GROUP WAS CHOSEN BY THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND SO JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF ANY FURTHER MOVEMENT HAD WENT WITH THAT OR IF IT WAS KIND OF JUST IN THE AIR, BUT YOU JUST ANSWERED IT.
SO, UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS AS FAR AS THE, WHILE WE, I'VE GOT SOME REALLY GOOD FEEDBACK HERE.
UM, WE'RE WANTING TO SEE THE, A AREA THAT PEOPLE WILL SEE WHEN THEY ENTER THE BUILDING THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO SEARCH OUT FOR.
UM, WOULD LIKE FOR IT TO HAVE AN EDUCATIONAL FEEL IDENTIFIED DATES, BE INVITING PICTURES TO HAVE HIDDENS THAT IDENTIFY WHO THE INDIVIDUAL WAS.
UM, MAYBE HAVE SOME INTERACTIVE AND, UH, AUDITORY, TACTILE, UM, COMPONENTS TO WHAT THE KIDS CAN USE.
UM, POSSIBLE OPTION OF IF THERE'S HEALTH ROOMS OR BUSINESS AREAS, SPREADING THE HISTORY OUT THROUGH THOSE AREAS BASED ON WHAT THE SETUP IS.
ANYTHING ELSE? I, I THINK, UH, SOMEBODY TALKING ABOUT WHEN COME IN EDUCATIONAL, AND I'VE BEEN IN SOME, SOME PLACES, UH, LIKE FLORIDA, ATLANTA, WHERE YOU COME INTO THE REC STATION AND SAY LIKE, IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING OR HISTORY OF A PERSON, THEY HAVE A BUTTON OR SOMETHING THEY CAN PUSH AND IT ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT YEAH.
TELL, TELL THE STORY ABOUT THAT PERSON, ABOUT THAT, THAT BUILDING, ABOUT THIS AREA.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING GREAT FOR, YOU KNOW, FOR THE KID.
WELL, FOR ANYBODY FOR THAT MATTER.
WHAT'S, WHAT'S TO DEAL WITH THE HOUSE? HAS THE CITY DECIDED BEEN GONNA DO WITH THE HOUSE? THEY JUST ASKED THAT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE.
IT MIGHT BE DOING HISTORIC PRESERVATION.
SO WHAT I'M HEARING FROM A VERY RELIABLE SOURCE IS THAT NOW THE CITY IS GONNA TAKE THE HOUSE BECAUSE, UM, AND PUT IT ON A PLOT BECAUSE IT'S JUST TOO EXPENSIVE TO NOBODY WANTS IT.
SO WHEN, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS THAT HAS TO BE IN THE WORKINGS IN ORDER TO BREAK GROUND ON THIS.
THERE'S TWO, TWO LARGE AND ONE PIECE.
SO WHAT'S THE IDEAL DATE THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BREAK THE GROUND ON FOR THE RECREATION CENTER? HOPEFULLY, UM, THE BEGINNING OF 23.
I MEAN THIS HAS BEEN, THIS HAS BEEN A PROCESS.
THIS HAS WHAT YEAR? FOR FOUR YEARS? YEAH.
DOESN'T THE CENTER HAS BEEN CLOSED.
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YEAH.UM, I, I FEEL LIKE WHAT MISS HAZEL SAID ABOUT THERE BEING A SLOGAN OR SOMETHING TO THIS WALL, I FEEL LIKE THAT WOULD HELP US IDENTIFY PARAMETERS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS WANT TO THINK ABOUT IT, YOU KNOW, SEND IN SOME IDEAS IF YOU THINK THERE'S A, A SLOGAN THAT WOULD REPRESENT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE FOR THAT COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU GUYS ARE THE HISTORIANS OF THE AREA, SO I RELY ON Y'ALL FOR THE INPUT, YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT NEEDS TO BE ON THE WALL.
I WOULD LIKE TO CHALLENGE THE BOARD TO COME UP WITH THREE SLOGANS BY OUR NEXT MEETING.
THREE OF YOUR OWN, BUT GO OUTSIDE OF YOUR OWN SELF AND MAYBE ASK TWO OTHER PEOPLE OR GET TWO OTHER SLOGANS FROM THOSE THAT MAY NOT BE ABLE TO BE ON THIS BOARD OR BE PRESENT AT THE MEETINGS THAT MAY BE ABLE TO ADD SOMETHING.
UH, SO BRING BACK FIVE IF THAT'S ASKING, IF THAT'S NOT ASKING TOO MUCH.
WOULD HELP, YOU KNOW, INVOLVE YOUR COMMUNITY.
UM, WERE THERE ANY BUSINESSES BACK IN THE DAY THAT HAD SLOGANS, UH, GOOD SHEPHERD OR ANY OF THE RECREATIONAL CENTERS? DO YOU ANYBODY REMEMBER ANY CATCH PHRASE THAT MAYBE WAS THERE WHEN WE WERE GROWING UP? I'M NOT AS OLD AS YOU ARE, BUT
LOOKING AT NOW, AT END OF THE DAY, I, WE BASICALLY TOOK CARE OF SALES.
UH, NOT THAT IACTUALLY, REMEMBER RIGHT OFF HAND.
UH, I WOULD'VE TO THINK, BUT NONE THAT I CAN REMEMBER.
CAUSE I SAW MULTIPLE SLOGANS ON SOME OF THESE WHERE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, REMEMBER AND IMAGINE PLACE AND PURPOSE.
MAYBE WE ALLOW OUR YOUTH TO COME UP WITH THE FUTURE SLOGAN AND WE UTILIZE WHAT WE KNOW FROM THE PAST AS THE PAST SLOGANS AND HAVE IT KIND OF THE WALL WALKING FROM THE PAST TO THE FUTURE WITH THE KIDS.
I MEAN, COULD BE A GOOD WAY TO GET THE YOUTH ENGAGED AS FAR AS THEY FEEL LIKE THEY GAVE SOMETHING TO THE RECREATION CENTER, UM, THAT THEY'RE GONNA BE UTILIZING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN SOME OF US WILL EVENTUALLY.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO TRY TO GET THEM INVOLVED.
GET THE WORD OUT IN THE COMMUNITY THAT, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL HAVE A SAY SO TOO.
AND I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR IS TO HELP WITH THE COMMUNITY'S VOICE AND WHAT THEY WANT.
UM, SO MAYBE INCORPORATE IN SOME OF THAT SO THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST UP HERE MAKING DECISIONS FOR THEM, BUT THAT THEY'VE HAD SOME, SOME SAY SO IN IT.
BASICALLY WANTED, WANTED TO BE TO WHERE I GUESS YOU, YOU TURN TALK, TALK OF THE TOWN BECAUSE YOU WANTED TO BE A FEELING NOT JUST TO THE CHILDREN, YOU, NOT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY.
YOU WANT TO BE COM UH, UH, FEELING TO THE VISITORS ALSO, UH, WHEN THEY COME IN.
CAUSE LIKE I SAID, I'VE BEEN TO OTHER STATES, A LOT OF STATES THAT HAVE BEAUTIFUL FACILITIES AND THEY HAVE THE WATER PARKS RIGHT.
BUILT RIGHT IN TO THE FACILITY.
THEY HAVE SUFFOLK BOARD OUT IN, OUT IN THE OPEN, YOU KNOW, AND, AND YOU HAVE PEOPLE JUST WANT TO MIGRATE THERE THAT DON'T EVEN LIVE THERE.
AND THAT'S THE KIND OF THING I WANT TO LOOK AT, UH, WHEN WE BUILD, PUT THIS THING TOGETHER, NOT JUST FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR EVERYBODY, BECAUSE WHEN THEY COME IN THERE, IT'S GONNA REPRESENT AND THAT'S WHAT WANTED TO DO.
WE WANTED TO MEAN SOMETHING, NOT JUST FACES UP THERE.
WE WANTED TO MEAN SOMETHING LIKE A GOOD SHEPHERD.
UM, IT WAS A DOCTOR THAT CAME OUT OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT SHE WAS SO WELL HELPING PEOPLE EVEN WHEN THEY DIDN'T HAVE FUNDS AND MISS DIS WAY DIS AND SHE DID, THEY DID HAVE A SLOGAN ON THAT BUILDING IN THE HONOR OF HER.
SO I, I DON'T REMEMBER IT, BUT I KNOW I DID HAVE A SLOGAN.
LIPMAN, HE WORKED OUT OF THAT SAME BUILDING, UH, AFTER HE MOVED OFF BROAD STREET.
SO WE, WE, WE GOT A LOT OF, A LOT OF AMMUNITION, A LOT OF LOT OF STUFF TO WORK WITH, BUT WE JUST GOTTA PULL IT TOGETHER.
AND LIKE HE WAS SAYING NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M GONNA BRING FIVE, BUT BRING SALT
WELL, THOSE ARE ALL GREAT CONCEPTS AND UH, DEFINITELY, UH, MR. LE WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT THE YOUTH AND GETTING THEM INVOLVED, WHICH BRINGS ME TO, WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE
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REMIND OURSELVES THAT STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER WAS VIABLE FOR WHAT WE NEEDED BACK IN THE SEVENTIES AND THE EIGHTIES.AND IT SERVED US WELL FOR WHAT, 40, 45 YEARS, SOMEWHERE IN THERE.
AND AS IT RELATED TO THE CHANGE IN THE GENERATIONS, NOT THAT IT BECAME ANTIQUATED, BUT THE NEEDS THAT I HAD BACK IN THE SEVENTIES ARE NOT THE NEEDS THAT THE KIDS HAVE 50 YEARS LATER.
WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ALSO MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING AND LEAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE BIBLE IN 40 AND 50 YEARS, WHETHER IT BE SIGNAGE, WHETHER IT BE HISTORY.
AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH MAYBE EVEN LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT YOU WANNA SEE IN THE FUTURE.
IT INCLUDE IT ON YOUR HISTORY WALL.
UM, OF COURSE PEOPLE DON'T DO THE, UM, WHAT DID WE USED TO DO BACK IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES, THE, THE TIME CAPSULES WHERE WE WOULD GO BURY THINGS FOR 30 AND 40 YEARS.
BUT THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HAVING FORETHOUGHT AND WITH HAVING A VISION TO SEE WHAT'S GONNA BE VIABLE IN 30, 40, 50 YEARS.
BECAUSE THIS WILL PROBABLY BE THE, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BUILD ANOTHER FACILITY DURING MY LIFETIME.
DURING, WELL, I WILL PROBABLY BE HERE FOR A MINUTE,
THIS BUILDING IS MEANT TO STAND A TEST OF TIME FOR THE NEXT 50 YEARS.
AND, AND WE NEEDED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO MAKING SURE THAT IT IS VIABLE IN 40, 50 AND 60 YEARS FROM NOW, UH, TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THESE NEXT GENERATIONS.
I LIKE TO SAY WHAT WE PUT ON THAT WALL SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WHENEVER YOUNG PEOPLE COME IN AND THEY LOOK AT THAT WALL AND THEY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A CHANCE TO DO THAT TOO.
YOU KNOW, CAUSE I, I, EVEN THOUGH I WENT TO JT BARBER, WE HAD SOME EVERYTHING THAT THEY COME OUT WITH, DOCTORS, LAWYERS, ALL KINDS OF PEOPLE THAT COME OUT THERE, CLASSMATES.
WHEN I, WHEN I MEET WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND SOME OF THE OLDER PEOPLE, I SAY, YOU'RE DOING GREAT.
I SAY, BUT YOU'RE LEFT LITTLE NEW.
YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE NEED SOMETHING TO ENCOURAGE OUR YOUNG PEOPLE.
SO, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS AN OPTION, BUT SOMETHING YOU SAID THAT KEEPS STICKING WITH ME IS SAFE HAVEN.
I MEAN, THE KIDS IN THAT COMMUNITY, I KNOW THE TIME I GOT TO SPEND AT THE CENTER, IT REALLY WAS A HAVEN FOR THEM TO COME IF IT WAS, WELL, ONE OF THE REASONS, LIKE I SAID, IT WASN'T JUST THE STAFF, BUT IT WAS MAINLY THE STAFF THAT KEPT US SAFE.
BUT WE HAVE VERY FEW ASSETS IN OUR AREA.
AND WHAT I MEAN, ASSETS, BUILDINGS THAT WERE SAFE.
HAVENS THE ONLY AC WELL THE OLD, THE OMEGA CENTER NOW, WHICH WAS CEDAR STREET RECREATION CENTER THEN IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE ONLY ASSETS THAT WE HAVE NOW.
UH, IT'S USED AS A DISTRIBUTION CENTER.
IT'S USED, UH, FOR PARKS AND RECS.
WELL, WE HAVE THE, UH, CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD RIGHT HERE WITH US.
YOU GET LONGWINDED, BUT BE THE SAME.
BUT JUST TO SAY THAT, THAT'S THE REASON WHY, AND I DO, I LOVE CALLING THEM SAFE HAVENS BECAUSE YOU DON'T JUST HAPPEN TO COME ACROSS THEM WHERE YOU CAN GO AND GET SOME SUPPLIES, GET AN EDUCATION, BE FED, AND THE COMMUNITY COMES TOGETHER IN THESE PLACES.
ESPECIALLY AT THE, AT THE OMEGA CENTER AT STANLEY WHITE WHEN THEY HAD THE POTTERY CLASSES AND THEY WOULD TAKE THE TRIPS AND JUST SEEING EVERYBODY LOADING BUSES FROM THE PARKING LOT AT STANLEY WHITE.
SO THE NUTSHELL, HAVE YOU, I, I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, HAVE Y'ALL CHOSEN THE OPTION BASED OFF OF THIS OR JUST KIND OF WE WERE JUST GETTING RECOMMENDATIONS LIKE WHAT YOU SEE ON HERE, BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ARE ACTUALLY ONES THAT WERE DESIGNED BY CPL GOTCHA.
SO JUST KIND OF GETTING THE IDEA OF WHAT WE WANT IT TO LOOK LIKE.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, UM, MR. MORGAN SAID, YOU KNOW, HAVING AN EDUCATIONAL FEEL, HAVING SOME OF THE PICTURES, UM, WITH HEADINGS AND DATES.
SO SOME OF THOSE KEY THINGS ABOUT HOW YOU WANT IT TO LOOK OR THINK IT SHOULD LOOK.
SO FOR THE, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO KIND OF EVERYONE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION ON WHICH OPTION THEY LIKE? WELL, I WAS HOPING, YEAH.
AT LEAST GIVE A COUPLE OF RECOMMENDATIONS, ONE OR TWO THAT
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YOU KNOW, YOU THINK WOULD FIT BEST.WELL I, I I'M JUST GIVING A RECOMMENDATION ON THAT.
AND THEN I GUESS THE, THE NEXT THING WOULD BE JUST BASED ON THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD, WOULD IT NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO KIND OF SAY, HEY, COME BACK WITH EACH THREE TO FIVE KIND OF DIRECTIONAL PIECES THAT YOU WANT TO GO WITH BASED OFF OF THE OPTION THAT YOU CHOOSE AND MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION TO YOU.
NO, I LIKE THE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, JUST BACK KIND OF LOOK OVER IT, GET THE SLOGANS, COME BACK WITH THE OPTIONS, AND THEN IN THE NEXT YEAH, GIVE US A CHANCE TO KIND OF TALK TO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE AND, AND SEE WHAT, HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT IT.
WELL, I THINK THIS IS A GOOD START IT CAUSE BE BETTER.
BECAUSE IF WE VOTE NOW AND SUBMIT, EVEN IF WE COME BACK, THEY MAY NOT EVEN USE THAT.
THEY MIGHT GO WITH WHERE WE ARE SUBMITTED.
SO WE NEED TO BRING, YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO WHO ARE YOU? SO WHO ARE YOU GOING TO JUST TO CARE YOU, ROBIN, MS. MARTIN, OR TO GO BACK WITH THE FIVE SUGGEST TO BRING SOME SLOGANS KEY, YOU KNOW? YEAH, YEAH.
WELL, I GUESS WHAT I WAS SAYING IS THE OP BASED ON THE, YOU GOT FIVE OPTIONS HERE, RIGHT? THAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT? YEAH, BUT I MEAN, WE'RE NOT LIMITED TO THOSE.
WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE AN IDEA OF WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE SO THAT WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THAT, AN IDEA OF THE CONSENSUS OR THAT'S JUST KINDA, WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET THOSE PARAMETERS TALK ABOUT ONCE WE GOT THE DESIGNS, THEN WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE, THE AREA WE HAD TO WORK WITH BEFORE WE DECIDE THE SIZE OF THE AREA.
I JUST WANTED SOME MAJOR KEY THINGS.
LIKE HE WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WHEN YOU WALK UP TO WHAT IS INVITING IS EDUCATIONAL.
BECAUSE HONESTLY WHEN WE DID THE DESIGN ABOUT FEATURES INSIDE THE CENTER, LIKE COLORS AND YOU KNOW, THE WALL MATERIALS, THAT'S THE KIND OF THINGS THEY WERE LOOKING FOR.
YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU WANT THIS SPACE TO FEEL? WHAT DO YOU WANT IT TO REPRESENT? SO THE INFORMATION FROM THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS AT THE CENTER WHERE FOLKS WERE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, THESE ARE THE, BASED ON SOME OF THE THINGS YOU JUST SAID, SOME OF THAT INFORMATION HAD BEEN GATHERED ALREADY.
WAS THAT PUT INTO TO THIS? YEAH.
IF THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE THAT Y'ALL FEEL LIKE'S RELEVANT.
NO, I'M SAYING BASED ON THE, THE INFORMATION THAT WAS HELD AT THE TWO DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, PROBABLY A YEAR AND A HALF AGO, ONE WAS AT THE CENTER AND ONE WAS MAYBE AT WEST NEW BERN.
SO THEN HAS THAT, HAS THAT INFORMATION BEEN PUT INTO WHATEVER THEY'RE GONNA WANT TO PUTTING OUT? WELL THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY DID.
THAT'S WHY THEY HAVE THE WALL WAS BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS RECOMMENDED.
RECOMMENDED TIME AND TIME AND TIME AGAIN THAT WE HAD HAD TO HAVE SOME KIND OF HISTORY WALL OR TRIBUTE WALL.
WELL, THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE ACTUALLY.
THEY FACTORED IN THAT INFORMATION.
UM, SO YEAH, I'VE GOT SOME GOOD WORDS.
IS ANY OTHER WORDS Y'ALL WANT TO THROW OUT? I MEAN, WE KNOW WE WANT TO LOOK AT SOME INTERACTIVE OPTIONS.
WE WANT IT TO HAVE DATES, WE WANT IT TO HAVE PICTURES.
UM, A SLOGAN MAYBE THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCORPORATE.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE Y'ALL CAN THINK OF THAT I CAN PROVIDE? I THINK I HAVE A MEETING AND THURSDAY WITH THEM.
JUST HAVE THOSE PARAMETERS TO WHERE IT HAS AN EVEN FLOW AND WE'RE DEALING IN TRUTH.
ANYBODY ELSE? AND I LOVE WHAT MR. BROWN SAID, TALK OF THE TOWN.
NOW, IF YOU COULD COME UP WITH THE OTHER PART TO THAT, THAT WOULD BE A GOOD SLOGAN.
WELL, I, I ASKED HIM, ASK MY COUSIN ASKED REGGIE JONES, HE, HE HAD A A, A TV SHOW CALLED TV SHOW CALLED TALK AT TIME.
SO I, I LET HIM PUT THE REST THERE TO IT.
AND, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE SLOGANS, LET'S TRY TO BE ORIGINAL AND MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT USING SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, IS BEING USED BEFORE.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S A COMMON, YEAH.
SO IT'LL BE OKAY, WE WON'T GET SUED OR EVEN THAT COULD BE ONE OF OUR SUBHEADINGS THROUGH, UH, ONE OF OUR CHOICES IN TIME MAYBE.
BUT WE STILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA REPRESENT THE BIG PICTURE.
AND THEN WE COULD HAVE SUBTITLES ON CERTAIN ERAS OR CERTAIN THINGS WITH ATHLETICS.
UH, AND OF COURSE TALK OF THE, THE TIME COULD BE SOME OF THE ENTERTAINMENT THAT, THAT WENT ON BACK DURING THAT, THAT, UH, TIME.
THAT WAS POSITIVE HISTORY MAKING.
AND MAYBE WE CAN LOOK AT IT FROM A, A RECREATIONAL STANDPOINT.
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YOU GOT SPORTS, YOU GOT EDUCATION, YOU'VE GOT, UM, HEALTH AND WELLNESS.MAYBE WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT, YOU KNOW, ALTOGETHER SOME WAY MM-HMM.
YOU, YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE, BECAUSE DURING THAT TIME, WE HAD LEADERS THAT WE COULD COUNT ON AND LOOK TO AND LOOK TOWARDS THAT, THAT WOULD LEAD US BECAUSE THEY HAD THE, THE, UH, BEST THEY, THEY WANTED THE BEST FOR THEIR, THEIR COMMUNITY.
AND THEY WORKED TIRELESSLY TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE DID ACHIEVE THAT.
UH, BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNLEVEL PLAYING FIELD.
THIS IS A GREAT EXAMPLE OF, AND I HATE TO BE CLICHE, BUT A RISING TIDE, UM, LIFTS ALL SHIPS.
I MEAN, AT THE END OF THE DAY, STANLEY WHITE DID, YOU KNOW, FLOOD IN A SENSE, AND GOING FROM THAT FLOOD TO, YOU KNOW, NOW IT'S EVEN BETTER.
THAT'S RISING ALL THE SHIPS THAT ARE AROUND IT, THE CHILDREN, THE TOURISM, ALL OF IT, IT'S ALL BEING ELEVATED THANKS TO THIS PROJECT.
SO LET ME BE RIGHT THAT, I MEAN, I'M NOT MARKETING ENOUGH
I MEAN, I, I THINK THAT IS A OVERALL THING AS WELL.
BUT AGAIN, UM, IT'S MY DUE DILIGENCE TO GO BACK, SPEAK TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT I HAVE A VOICE FOR HERE AND FIND OUT WHAT IT IS THAT THEY WANT.
I'M REALLY EXCITED FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE THE FINAL PLANS BECAUSE YOU HAVE A DIRECT TIE TO THIS CENTER MORE SO THAN I DO.
AND WHEN I LOOK AT WHAT IS COMING, IT'S JUST, IT'S AMAZING.
I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU GUYS TO SEE IT.
I THINK SO THE LAYOUT THAT, THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, DOES THEY HAVE WHAT'S GONNA SURROUND THAT BUILDING ALSO? YEP.
THEIR SMA YOU KNOW, THEIR DRAWINGS ON THE COMPUTER, BUT IT'S VERY, UM, UM, ACCURATE AND REALISTIC.
YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE ALREADY SEEING WHAT IT'S GONNA LOOK LIKE.
SO I THINK Y'ALL BE REALLY, REALLY PLEASED.
THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB DESIGNING IT.
NOT, UH, MY BUDDY WOULD'VE LAUGHING AT ME, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY HE LAUGHING.
BUT I SAW A SIGN HOW THE, FOR PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE RESTAURANT USED TO BE.
DO YOU KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THAT? THAT IS UNDER DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.
THAT'S SOMETHING THEY HAVE TO DO.
SO I'M NOT, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT SURE THE DETAILS OF THAT, BUT IT IS A PROCESS THEY HAVE TO DO.
DOESN'T IT HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH THE HOUSE, MR. I TALKED TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
THAT'S THAT'S A, THAT'S A, THAT'S A SEPARATE, WE ACTUALLY, I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
WE HAD, WE HAD A MEETING THAT WAS CANCELED FOR THIS PAST SATURDAY MM-HMM.
BUT I'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT, ABOUT THAT, THAT PROBABLY, WELL, ABOUT THE SUN.
ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANOTHER COMMENT? DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? I MOVE THAT WE ADJOURN.
THANK YOU ALL AND I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING YOUR SLOGANS.