Dec 14, 2022 Redevelopment Commission

RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

VICE.

UH, CHAIR, UH, OUR NEXT GENERAL ITEM IS APPROVAL OF, UM, THE REGULAR BOARD MINUTES AND THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, MEETING.

I'M SORRY, I FORGOT THE GUY.

VICE, VICE CHAIR.

I'M OKAY.

DO YOU WANT ME TO START? YES.

PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE EQUAL TIME.

LISTEN, LISTEN TO BUILD CONSENSUS, SHARE EQUITY INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION.

STAY FOCUSED.

CAN BE ACTION ORIENTED.

BELIEVE WE NEED TO GET A BIG BOY.

UH, OUR NEXT, UH, ITEM IS OUR APPROVAL OF OUR, I'LL LET YOU GO ON.

UM, DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT? UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS TO FOUR UH, MINUTES.

DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENTS TONIGHT? SEEING THAT WE HAVE NONE.

NOW

[3. Approval of Minutes Regular Board Meeting and Strategic Planning Meeting.]

THE MINUTE.

UH, MINUTES FROM OUR NOVEMBER 3RD MEETING AND THEN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING, UM, SESSION.

WE'RE IN YOUR, UM, PACKET.

SO IF YOU COULD LOOK AT HIM FOR, UH, CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS, OR, UH, CONDITIONS TO DENI APPROVAL, PLEASE.

ONE, ONE CHANGE ON THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 9TH.

THE SECOND PAGE UNDER ITEM FIVE, THE SECOND LINE.

UH, THE WELLNESS CENTER, UH, SITE PLAN WAS DEVELOPED BY AVALA ENGINEERING, NOT ATLAS.

THAT'S A V O L I S.

ANY OTHERS? THANK A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE NOVEMBER 9TH MEETING AS CORRECTED.

SECOND IN FAVOR.

AYE.

WE APPROVE NOVEMBER 30TH MINUTES.

WE NEED, UM, APPROVAL OF OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION ON NOVEMBER THE 30TH.

THOSE WERE PROVIDED TO YOU AS WELL.

AND REMEMBER, UM, THEY ARE, UH, PATROL.

IS MR. REALLY BASIC FOR JUST OPENING THE MEETING.

UM, CLOSING AND, UH, THE ROLL.

WE NOT HAVE A MAKING MOTION.

STATUS? THANK YOU SO MUCH.

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[4. Discussion of the RDC's plan for 203 and 207 Jones St]

AGENDA, UH, ITEM, UM, AGENDA ITEM FOUR IS DISCUSSION OF THE REDEVELOPMENTS.

UH, PLAN FOR, UM, 2 0 3 AND 2 0 7.

AND THAT WOULD BE BETH WALKING.

YOU READY? YES.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, BILL, THE BACKGROUND INFORMATION FOR THE, UM, LOTS OF 2 0 3 AND 2 0 7 ARE IN YOUR PACKET.

YOU HAVE A MAP, UM, SOME PHOTOS AND THE OFFERS TO PURCHASE THAT WE RECEIVED.

SO TONIGHT WE ARE, OUR GOAL IS TO ADOPT THE REVOLUTION TO EITHER INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS FOR 2 0 3 TO 2 0 7 JONES STREET.

AND, UM, I'VE GOT THE INFORMATION FROM THE HOUSING WORK GROUP THAT I'D LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU GUYS.

UM, FIRST I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY.

CAUSE NOT EVERYBODY WAS, HAS BEEN HERE FOR THE WHOLE THING.

THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PURCHASED THESE TWO PROPERTIES WITH THE INTENTION TO PROVIDE QUALITY HOUSING STOCK.

UM, WE HAD THE STRUCTURE THAT WAS EXISTING ASSESSED AND WERE ADVISED TO DEMOLISH THE STRUCTURE.

SO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PAID FOR, UM, HAZARDOUS MATERIALS INSPECTION AND ASSESSMENT, AS WELL AS THE ASSESSMENT OF THE STRUCTURE.

UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PAID FOR THE DEMOLITION OF THE STRUCTURE AND THE HAZARDOUS MATERIALS ABATEMENT.

UM, AND THEN SINCE THEN, THE HOUSING WORK GROUP HAS BEEN REVIEWING A LAND USE PLAN RECOMMENDED, AND THE RECOMMENDATION TO REPLAT THE TWO EXISTING LOTS INTO THREE LOTS TO PROVIDE INDIVIDUAL THREE INDIVIDUAL HOUSES IN THE AREA.

UM, TODAY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS INVESTED APPROXIMATELY $57,000 INTO THESE PROPERTIES WITH THE ATTEMPT, ONCE AGAIN TO PROVIDE QUALITY HOUSING.

SO, UM, NEW INFORMATION IS, WE ALSO HAVE RECEIVED A VERBAL COMMITMENT TO FUND THE CONSTRUCTION OF THREE HOUSES ON THESE LOTS.

UM, AND ONCE THAT IS OFFICIAL, WE CAN SHARE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.

LAST MEETING AT OUR NOVEMBER REGULAR MEETING, MR. PETE FRY PRESENTED HIS REQUEST TO PURCHASE THESE TWO LOTS.

AND HIS INTENDED PURPOSE, UM, WAS TO BUILD A APPROXIMATELY 1500 SQUARE FOOT HOUSE FROM HIS PERSONAL RESIDENCE.

HIS PROPOSED OFFER WAS RECEIVED, AND IT IS, UM, FOR THE TWO LOTS TOTALS, $15,000 WITH THE, UH, REQUIRED EARNEST MONEY PAID, UH, UPFRONT.

AND HIS SCHEDULE WAS TO START CONSTRUCTION WITHIN TWO YEARS OR AT THE TWO YEAR START DATE.

SO THE HOUSING WORK GROUP, UH, MET, LOOKED AT ALL THE WORK THAT'S BEEN GONE, HAS ALREADY BEEN DONE, AND THE PROPOSAL.

AND WE ARE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION REJECT THE EXISTING OFF, REJECT THE EXISTING OFFER TO PURCHASE.

UM, WE DO NOT BELIEVE THAT IT WILL PROVIDE THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF THE LAND, UM, BEING THAT IT WOULD BE A SINGLE HOME AS A RESIDENCE VERSUS THE THREE HOMES THAT WE ARE PLANNING TO PUT THERE.

UM, WE ALSO DON'T THINK IT MEETS OUR SCHEDULE TO PROVIDE THE HOUSING IN A TIMELY MANNER AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, UM, WITH THE, BECAUSE HE GAVE US A TWO YEAR START DATE, AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WOULD BE AT A NET LOSS OF ABOUT $48,000 OF OUR INVESTMENT IN THE PROPERTY IF WE WERE TO ACCEPT THE PROPOSAL.

SO WE, UM, ARE PLANNING ON MOVING FORWARD, OR WOULD LIKE TO CONSIDER BRINGING THE VERBAL COMMITMENT FOR CONSIDERATION IN THE FUTURE.

AND, UM, WE CERTAINLY WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH MR. FRY IN TERMS OF HELPING HIM FIND ANOTHER PROPERTY IN THE AREA THAT MIGHT MEET HIS GOALS, AS WELL AS HELPING US MEET OUR GOALS.

UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I MIGHT HAVE MISSED SOMETHING.

THE 48,000, HOW DID WE COME TO THAT? I, I, I, I'M JUST ASKING MATTER.

WE HAVE SPENT 57,000 OKAY.

AND RENOVATION ON PROPERTY.

ON THE DEMOLITION, THE ASSESSMENT.

UM, SO WE HAVE MONEY INVESTED IN THE PROPERTY OR THAT WE'VE SPENT.

AND THE 48 WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE IF WE ACCEPTED THE PROPOSAL, HIS PROPOSAL RIGHT.

WE WOULD STILL BE LESS THAT MONEY COMMISSION.

MORGAN, WHERE THAT HOUSE WAS SCHEDULED FOR DEMOLITION, WAS IT, WAS IT DEEMED AS THE DILAPIDATED OR SOMETHING THAT WAS NOT UP? THE

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CODE OF THE SA YEAH.

IT WAS SA FAMILY STRUCTURE ON SOUND.

COMMISSIONER LUBBOCK? NO QUESTION.

BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS WILLING TO GO IN AND MAKE THIS A HOME, AND THEY WANT TO BE A HOMEOWNER IN THE AREA AND IN THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE PURCHASING, WE ARE GOING TO TURN HIM DOWN BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUT THREE PROPERTIES THERE.

BUT YET STILL, THE COMMISSION HAS NOT TURNED OVER A SHOVEL OF DIRT IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS IN TERMS OF GETTING ANY PROJECT STARTED.

AND WHEN WE HAVE SOMEONE NOW THAT IS WILLING TO BE ABLE TO GO IN AND TO BE ABLE TO, WHO HAS ALSO INVESTED IN THIS AREA, WHO HAS INVESTED WITH A BUSINESS, AND EVEN GOING SO FAR AS TO SAY THAT I'M GOING TO FURTHER INVEST AND UPGRADE MY BUSINESS, AND I WANT TO LIVE IN THIS AREA, UM, I'M IN FAVOR OF NOT ABANDONING THIS GENTLEMAN AND AWARDING MR. FRY.

THOSE ARE JUST MY THOUGHTS, IS THAT WHEN YOU SHOW GOOD FAITH, I THINK THAT THE BOARD SHOULD SHOW GOOD FAITH.

AND IF THE BOARD MADE A, A MISTAKE IN, UH, SPENDING THAT KIND OF MONEY AND, AND NOT FOLLOWING THROUGH ON IT, THEN YOU KNOW WHAT? THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS THAT THE BOARD HAS NOT DONE PROPERLY.

AND I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE SHOULD NOT TAX OUR CITIZENS, THOSE THAT HAVE SHOWED GOOD FAITH.

UM, AND I AM NOT IN FAVOR OF ABANDONING, UH, THE THOUGHT OF AWARDING THIS GENTLEMAN AN OPPORTUNITY TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY.

THANK YOU COMMISSION MORGAN.

COMMISSION DESCRIPTIVE? NO, MA'AM.

I'LL JUST KIND OF REITERATE, UH, MS. MS. WALKER'S COMMENTS.

UM, AND TO ADDRESS THE POINT OF THE, THE STANDING OF THE HOUSE, WHENEVER WE ATTAINED IT, WE, WE MADE EVERY EFFORT TO WORK SOMETHING OUT TO SALVAGE IT, BUT RIGHT.

IF YOU'VE BEEN ON THE INSIDE OF THAT THING, WE WOULD'VE WIND UP SPENDING A WHOLE LOT MORE MONEY THAN IT WOULD'VE POSSIBLY BEEN WORTH TO, TO MAKE A FAR, PROBABLY TWICE AS MUCH BEFORE THAT EVER.

SO THAT'S HOW WE GOT AT THIS POINT.

NOW, WITH THAT SAID, THE, THE MOTION ON THE TABLE STILL TO, UH, CONSIDER THE OFFER THAT'S OUT THERE.

AND I, I WISH WE COULD HAVE THE OTHER OPTION THAT WE ARE, UH, AWAITING FINALIZED DETAILS OF THE, THE FINANCING.

I WISH WE COULD HAVE THAT TO A POINT WHERE TO BE PRESENTED AS A, AS A COMPETING BID.

UM, I FEEL LIKE THE BOARD, AS A GENERAL RULE WILL, WILL BE MUCH MORE INCLINED TO DO THAT.

NOT ONLY BECAUSE OF THE, THE FINANCIAL SENSE IT MAKES, BUT CAUSE IT'S PROVIDING HOUSING OPTIONS FOR THREE PEOPLE IN THAT AREA AS OPPOSED TO ONE PERSON MOVING INTO THE AREA.

AND, UH, DO WE HAVE AN, DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF TIMEFRAME OF WHAT OUR, UH, PROJECTION IS TO WHERE WE'LL START BUILDING AND WHERE WE'LL HAVE SOMEBODY IN THOSE HOUSE, IN THAT PROPERTY? MR. MR. FRY'S OFFER, UH, INCLUDES A TWO YEAR WINDOW.

I BELIEVE THAT HE WILL BE BUILDING, I WOULD FULLY EXPECT WITH THE OFFER THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING, THAT THERE WOULD BE DIRT TURNED IN A MATTER OF A COUPLE OF MONTHS FROM US, FROM US WHEN WE HAD TORE THE HOUSE DOWN.

ANYWAY, YES, HE WAS ON.

SO THAT 48,000 WE BE WAS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IF WE WERE GONNA DO IT ANYWAY.

WHAT'S THAT MONEY? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? LIKE, WHAT WAS THE DEMOLITION OF HOUSE APPROXIMATE PRICE PAYING FOR EIGHT $38,000 FOR THE PROPERTY.

PROPERTY.

AND THEN THE DEMOLITION WAS 10,000.

ABOUT 10 10.

I DO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

AND YOU DID MAKE A GREAT POINT OF, YOU KNOW WHAT, I'M GLAD THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO FIND MR. FRYER ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT WOULD SUIT HIS NEEDS.

UH, BUT DO WE HAVE IT IN CONCRETE AND IN STONE OF WHAT OUR INTENTIONS ARE ON THAT PROPERTY? AND WOULD IT BE, OR WOULD IT BENEFIT US TO MAYBE SAY, HEY, WE'VE ALREADY GOT THIS PERSON WHO HAS THIS PROPERTY, AND IF HE'S ALREADY GOT SOME PLANS FOR IT, WHAT'S TO STOP US FROM GOING AND FINDING ANOTHER PROPERTY AND PUTTING WHATEVER THE PLANS FOR THE HOUSING COMMISSION HAS BEEN, OR THE WORKING GROUP TO GO FIND ANOTHER PROPERTY? OR ARE WE BEYOND THAT POINT AND SAY, HEY, WE ALREADY HAVE SOMETHING PLANNED.

WE DO HAVE, UH, A COMMITMENT AND YOU CAN GUARANTEE THAT WITHIN TWO TO THREE MONTHS, EARTH WILL BE TURNED ON

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THAT PROPERTY.

AND MY, MY ANSWER ON THAT FRONT WILL BE THAT THE PROJECT THAT WE'VE GOT IN MIND THAT WE'RE CLOSE TO BEING ABLE TO FINALIZE IS A PARTNERSHIP.

AND A PARTNERSHIP TAKES LONGER TO PUT TOGETHER AND WORK OUT THE DETAILS FOR THAN SIMPLY SELLING A PIECE OF PROPERTY TO SOMEONE.

SO THAT'S HOW SOMETHING THAT STARTED BEFORE MR. FRY'S OFFER IS NOT FINALIZED UNTIL AFTER MR. FRY'S OFFER IS ON THE TABLE.

SO IT, IT'S SIMPLY A MATTER OF THE TIMING.

I AM COMFORTABLE AND I, I WISH WE WERE A LITTLE BIT FARTHER ALONG WHERE WE COULD, BUT IT'S GONNA REQUIRE ANOTHER ACTION BY A PARTY BEYOND OUR CONTROL BEFORE WE CAN OFFICIALLY, OFFICIALLY SAY IT'S DONE.

THE LAST THING I HAVE TO SAY IS THAT I HAVE 100% FAITH IN THE GENTLEMAN ON THIS WORKING GROUP COMMITTEE WITH THE HOUSING.

UM, AND I DO, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU PERSONALLY AND I BELIEVE YOU.

UH, BUT I HAVE TO SEE SOME PROGRESS ALSO.

AND THOSE, THAT'S THE ONLY REASON WHY I ASK THESE QUESTIONS.

UH, BUT I DO, AND I STILL STAND WITH MR. FRYER JUST BECAUSE OF WHAT I'VE SEEN IN THE PAST AND BECAUSE OF WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE GOING FORTH AND MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE.

EXCUSE ME.

AND THANK YOU.

ANYTHING ELSE, MR. COMMISSION? WELL, I, I, AS PART OF THE HOUSING WORK GROUP THAT HAS MADE THIS RECOMMENDATION, IT, UM, THIS HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR MAYBE FOUR MONTHS WORK, WORKING ON THIS.

UH, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE HAVE PROGRESSED TO THE POINT OF PICKING OUT HOUSE PLANS TO BE DECONSTRUCTED.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN MANY, MANY, MANY HOURS INVESTED IN SITE PLANNING AND STRUCTURAL PLANNING AND PROGRAMMING FOR THIS PROJECT THAT WE NEVER WERE ABLE TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE.

UM, IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR MINUTES, YOU CAN GO BACK AND LOOK AT SITE PLANS.

WE STARTED ON ABOUT FOUR, FOUR TO SIX MONTHS AGO.

WE STARTED ON, WHEN WE WERE DOING SITE PLANS FOR ALL OF OUR ACCUMULATED PROPERTIES.

THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY IS UNIQUE IN THAT IT'S LARGER THAN JUST A SINGLE LOT IN THAT, IN IT'S 137 FEET ACROSS THE FRONT AND IT'S 150 FEET DEEP.

SO OF LENDS ITSELF TO MORE THAN A SINGLE FAMILY HOUSE TO GET THE HIGHEST AND BEST UTILIZATION OUT OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY AND, AND MEET OUR ROOMS OF, OF PROVIDING HOUSING, RENTAL HOUSING FOR FOLKS.

UH, THIS IS A GREAT PLACE TO DO IT.

IT'S, UH, AND BEFORE WE'VE NEVER HAD THE FINANCIAL BACKING TO ACCOMPLISH ANY OF OUR OTHER STUFF THAT WE STARTED BE, RICK, BE HONEST WITH YOU, UH, AND I AM 95, I FEEL 95% SURE THAT THIS FINANCIAL BACKING IS GOING TO COME INTO PLAY AND BE REAL.

AND, UH, WE SHOULD HAVE ALL THIS PULLED TOGETHER, UH, IN THE MONTH OF JANUARY FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE.

AND WE'LL BE ABLE TO HOPEFULLY, WE'LL MIGHT EVEN BE ABLE TO PRESENT IT TO THE BOARD THERE JANUARY MEETING.

AND IF, IF THE FINANCIAL, UM, BACKING IS APPROVED, IT HAS A, UM, EXPIRATION DATE, THEY HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.

SO, AND I'M SORRY.

NO, GO AHEAD.

AND JUST ONE MORE THING JUST TO REPRESENT MY COMMUNITY.

OUT OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS ACCESS TO, THE ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE SOMEONE READY, WILLING, AND ABLE AND READY TO GO, IS THE ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA TURN 'EM DOWN ON, YOU KNOW, UH, OUT OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE THAT WE COULD, THIS IS THE ONE THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS CHOSEN.

AND IT'S THE ONE THAT WE CAN HAVE A WIN-WIN AS FAR AS THE COMMUNITY GOES TO SAY, HEY, WITH ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT THE COMMISSION OWNS, THEY CAN HAVE A HOMEOWNER AND A BUSINESS OWNER IN THE SAME AREA.

AND MAYBE THE COMMISSION CAN GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT WITH THE FIRST PROJECT THAT THIS COMMISSION IS GOING TO UNDERTAKE, IT'S GOING TO BE SOME ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS READY TO GO PURCHASE AND MOVE ON.

AND THAT'S JUST FROM MY COMMUNITY.

I'M NOT MY COMMUNITY, BUT

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I AM MY COMMUNITY.

AND THEY'RE GONNA ASK, UM, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR, UH, FOR YOUR, UH, COMMENTS.

BUT AS WE SEE IN THE ACTION, UM, ACTION ITEM, UH, THE HOUSING GROUP HAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE REJECT THE, UH, OFFICE TO PURCHASE.

SO THAT'S WHAT'S ON, UM, THE TABLE.

AND I'LL ASK, UM, ATTORNEY MOSLEY, IF SHE WOULD, UM, KINDA STATE THE MOTION BACK, YOU KNOW, THAT WE, UH, THAT WE NEED.

BUT FIRST I'M GONNA SEE IF OUR ALDERMAN HAVE ANY COMMENT, EITHER ONE OF YOU.

I DO.

UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

I HEARD MENTIONED THAT THERE EXIST A PARTNERSHIP, BUT I DIDN'T HEAR WITH WHOM THE COMMISSION IS PARTNERED.

AND THEN I UNDERSTOOD, UM, THAT THERE HAS BEEN MANY HOURS INVESTED AND THAT THERE HAS BEEN A SPAN OF ABOUT FOUR MONTHS, BUT PLANS COULD NOT BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION REGARDING THE MANY HOURS INVESTED OR THE PLANS.

WAS THIS PROJECT ASSIGNED TO A SPECIFIC COMMITTEE? I KNOW WE HAVE THE HOUSING COMMITTEE, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF VAGUENESS WITH THIS TO ME MM-HMM.

AND SO I'M TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING HOW DO PLANS EVOLVE THAT COULD NOT BE BROUGHT TO THE COMMISSION AND THE MANY HOURS AND THEN THE REFERENCE TO CHECK YOUR MINUTES FROM FOUR MONTHS AGO.

WELL, UM, I LOT OF THE REASON THAT IT CAN'T, UH, IT CAN'T BE BROUGHT BECAUSE IT'S REALLY YOU, IT'S PUTTING, WELL, YOU CANNOT, YOU HAD TO START WITH THIS PROCESS FIRST.

THE HOUSE OF WORKING GROUP DOES, DOES THIS WORK WITH, UH, YOU KNOW, WITH A, WITH A, A LOT OF PERSONS.

AND THEY SIMPLY, UM, SAYING WHEN THEY SAY THEY, UH, WORKED ON IT, THEY BEEN LOOKING AT IT, THEY WORKING ON ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF, UH, KINDS OF PLANS.

BUT REALLY UNTIL A DECISION IS, IS MADE FROM THIS COMMISSION, IT IS, THAT'S ALL IT IS, IS, IS, IS JUST PLANS.

AND IT'S JUST PEOPLE HAVING, HAVING CONVERSATION BECAUSE THE, IT HAS TO STORE HERE WITH THE HOUSING GROUP RECOMMENDING IT.

SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IN OUR, UM, THAT WE ADOPTED THE, UH, RULES, PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOLS THAT WE, WE ADOPTED.

SO THAT'S PROBABLY WHY, THAT'S WHY I WOULD SAY THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE HEARING, UM, HEARING LY MM-HMM.

IN FAIRNESS, I MEAN WE HAVE FRAUD IDEAS AND, AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN DOING AT EACH MEETING AS A REPORT OUT.

AND THAT'S WHY KEPT SAID TO CHECK BACK FOR YOUR MINUTES, CUZ WE HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP AT OUR MEETINGS, WHAT WE WERE WORKING ON IN THE PLANS.

AND I KNOW YOU HAVEN'T BEEN IN ATTENDANCE AT ALL OF THOSE, UM, SINCE, YOU KNOW, JUST SINCE THE ELECTION YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO COME.

SO I THINK WE HAVE DONE THE WORK.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S A SECRET.

IT'S BEEN REPORTED OUT EVERY MONTH AT THE MEETINGS.

UH, AUTMANN CLEAR.

WELL, LET ME, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT'S ALONG WITH YOU? I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU SAID.

ACTUALLY MORE PEOPLE ARE RENTING THESE DAYS THAN THEY ARE HOME OWNERSHIP BECAUSE OF A LOT OF THINGS, UM, GOING ON.

CLEAR.

I'VE GOT SOME, I'VE GOT CONCERNS WHICH I HAVE EXPRESSED PREVIOUSLY MM-HMM.

, AND I'LL RESTATE AND AGAIN, THAT THE PROPOSAL THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT INVOLVES RENTAL HOUSING, NOT HOME OWNERSHIP.

THAT MEANS THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS GOING TO BECOME A HOUSING MANAGEMENT ENTITY.

I'M CONCERNED THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WHETHER OR NOT YOU ARE EQUIPPED TO BECOME A HOUSING MANAGEMENT ENTITY.

UM, SO I WOULD CAUTION YOU ABOUT GOING DOWN THAT ROAD.

I'M NOT SURE THAT'S THE BEST DECISION THAT YOU CAN BE MAKING.

THANK YOU HONOR.

UM, AND WE'VE HAD THAT CONVERSATION, ANDY, CERTAINLY I AGREE WITH YOU.

UH, I DON'T WANT BE IN THE UH, BUSINESS.

UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT ARE EXPERTS AT AT THAT.

SO IT DEFINITELY WILL GO TO, IT HAVE TO BE A MANAGEMENT.

BUT IN OUR PLAN, UH, IT STATES THAT WE REVIEW HOUSING BOTH AFFORDABLE RENTALS AND AFFORDABLE WORKFORCE AND OTHER, UM, TYPES OF AFFORDABLE, UM, HOUSING.

AND THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY HAS A COMBINATION OF, UH, OF BOTH.

UH, IF, IF IT WAS MY PREFERENCE, I WOULD HAVE ALL HOME HOME OWNERSHIP.

BUT I KNOW BETTER.

I KNOW BETTER.

UH, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT HAPPENING ANY, IF WE LOOK AT IT TODAY AND DO OUR RESEARCH.

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BUT, UH, UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE LOOK FOR THAT.

HOLD ON A SECOND.

LEMME, LEMME, GETSON.

UM, BASICALLY WHEN WE PRESENTED OUR PROPOSAL ON NOVEMBER 9TH AND PRIOR TO WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE FOR US TO EVEN TAKE THAT ACTION TO COME TO THE MEETING AND BE ON AGENDA, WE DID CONTACT THE ADMINISTRATOR OF THE BOARD TO FIND OUT WHAT PROPERTIES THE TWO PROPERTIES, THERE'S TWO ACTUAL LOTS AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

UM, PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED THAT THE SIZE OF THE LOT, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY TWO LOTS.

AND THERE WAS A SINGLE, THERE WAS ONE STRUCTURE OF A HOUSE THAT WAS COVERING ON BOTH LOTS AT THE TIME MM-HMM.

UM, THAT WAS, THERE WAS NO INTENT AT THE TIME WHEN WE MADE THE INQUIRIES THAT ANY NUMEROUS INQUIRIES OR FOR KELLER WILLIAMS, UM, A REAL ESTATE AGENT THAT PRESENTED MR. FRY, WE LOOKED AT THOSE PROPERTIES WE MADE CONVERSATIONS WITH AND THERE IS NO PLANS FROM WHAT WE ARE TOLD FOR THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.

THAT'S THE FIRST THING I LIKE TO SAY.

SECOND THING IS, AND WE'RE HEARING NOW AND SINCE THE MEETING OF NOVEMBER 9TH WHEN WE MADE THE PROPOSAL, UM, EVEN IF MS. WALKER SAYS THAT THIS WAS IN MEETING MINUTES PRIOR TO THAT, THERE WAS SOME KIND OF PLANNING INVOLVED.

THERE WAS NEVER ADDRESSED AT OUR PROPOSAL.

ONE WAS OPEN FORUM, 'EM, THERE ARE PEOPLE FROM THE WORKING GROUP, NOBODY BROUGHT UP.

THERE WAS PREVIOUS PLANS THAT WE COULD HAVE BEEN ADVISED AND WAITING INSTEAD OF WAITING A MONTH BECAUSE IF WE KNOW WE'RE WAITING A MONTH FOR AN ANSWER.

AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY, ACCORDING TO LAST RESEARCH ON THEIR WEBSITE, THERE'S ABOUT 47% INCREASE IN VACANCIES IN THE AREA.

THERE'S PLENTY OF PROPERTIES OUT THERE FOR PEOPLE TO DO THIS.

IF YOU WANT TO BE A RENTER OWNED MANAGEMENT COMPANY, THAT'S FINE.

YOU HAVE SEVEN OVER 75% RENTERS AND YOU HAVE LESS OWNERS.

OUR WHOLE THING WAS WE HAVE PERSON WHO IS PART OF THE COMMUNITY, HAS A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS WISH TO FINALLY FULFILL HIS HOME OWNERSHIP AND TAKE OVER PROPERTY TO BUILD THE STRUCTURE.

THE SAME KIND OF STRUCTURE THAT TOOK OVER TWO LOTS.

SO THAT'S WHY WE PURCHASED TWO LOTS, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW THAT STRUCTURE WAS BEFORE.

AND HE CAN USE THE SPACE FOR WHAT HE CAN DO AND IT WILL SHOW GOOD FAITH TO US AND TO COMMUNITY THAT YOU ARE LOOKING TO THE FUTURE.

YOU'RE LOOKING TO GET NEW HOMEOWNERS IN THE AREA AND NOT BE RENTAL PROPERTY MANAGEMENT COMPANY.

AND, BUT THAT'S WHY WE MADE THE EFFORT.

AND AGAIN, IT WOULD'VE BEEN NICE TO KNOW AT THE OTHER MEETING THAT THERE WAS ONGOING PLANS IF IT'S ALREADY DOCUMENTED THE PLAN.

CUZ WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THAT.

AND WHEN YOU SAY THERE'S AN INVESTIGATION, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT INVEST COMPANY'S GONNA COME THROUGH.

IT'S ALL IN YOUR NEGOTIATIONS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACTUALLY IN ANY KIND OF BOARD.

MINIMUM MEANS THAT THEY, THEY'RE GUARANTEEING THAT THEY'RE GONNA GO THROUGH THIS IN THE NEXT COMING MONTHS AND THERE'S ACTUALLY GONNA BE ACTUALLY WORK IN PROGRESS WHERE THERE'S DIRT THAT'S GONNA BE MOVED TOWARDS THAT PROCESS.

NOW WHEN YOU BUY PROPERTIES AND YOU GO AND CLAIM, SEE THIS HOUSE, THIS HAS TO BE DEMOLISHED.

AND YOU TAKE THAT ON BOARD, YOU KNOW THERE'S COST INVOLVED IN DEMOLITION.

YOU DON'T SAY THIS IS TOO COSTLY FOR DOING, DOING THAT.

YOU DO IT FOR THE PURPOSE OF, FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND YOU HAVE TO ABSORB THAT EXPENSE.

WHEN YOU SAY YOU LOOK FOR SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND MAKE A PURCHASE THAT'S LOOKING FOR LAND TO BUILD THEIR HOME, YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE, YOU MIGHT NOT REPEAT THAT MONEY.

THAT'S PART OF THE DEAL.

AND WHEN YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, ACCORDING TO YOUR RULES AND REGULATIONS AND PROCEDURES THAT ARE OUR BOARD, IT'S A BID PROCESS.

I SEE.

WE PUT OUT OUR, OUR BID IN GOOD FAITH.

WE MAKE SURE WE, WE PUT IT IN EVEN BEFORE OUR DISCUSSION IN THE MEETING.

SO THIS FINANCIAL BACKING THAT, YOU KNOW, SUPPOSED TO BE, IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO BE APPROVED, IT'S GONNA BE, BUT THERE'S NO GUARANTEES ON THAT.

, I MEAN, IT'S KIND OF UPSETTING TO HEAR THIS AT THIS POINT, IN FACT, BECAUSE WE COULD HAVE BEEN TOLD AT THAT MEETING AND MAYBE WE COULD HAVE BEEN ENTERPRISED A LITTLE BIT BETTER BECAUSE THE BIDS COULD HAVE BEEN CHANGED.

WE STILL HAD THAT OPTION TO DO THAT.

CONSIDER THE VOTE TONIGHT, I REALLY HOPE YOU TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION BECAUSE I THINK, YOU KNOW, THE OPTICS ARE THERE, THE PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THIS.

AND WE WERE LOOKING FOR A FAVORABLE OUTCOME TO SHOW THAT BASICALLY FOR MR. FRY TO OBTAIN HIS PROPERTY AND FOR YOU GUYS TO, YOU KNOW, SHOW THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY WILLING TO TAKE ON NEW PEOPLE TO, YOU KNOW, BE HOMEOWNERS.

SO MY QUESTION TO YOU IS BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE, THE QUALITY OF THE HOUSING AND THE THINGS THAT ARE OUT THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S LOTS OF AREAS IN OTHER AREAS.

SO I WOULD LIKE YOU TO RECONSIDER, THERE ARE SO MANY VACANCIES IN OTHER PROPERTIES FOR ALL OF A SUDDEN TO TELL ME THAT THOSE TWO PROPERTIES ARE GONNA BE, YOU KNOW, WE COME BACK AND SEE IT ANOTHER TWO MONTHS OR JANUARY SOMETIME, THAT THERE'S NOT DIGGING COMMUNITY.

PEOPLE ARE GONNA SEE THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT AND WHAT, WHAT SIGN, WHAT MESSAGE DOES IT SEND? THAT'S WHAT I'M, THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED.

PLUS IT'S A DISAPPOINTMENT TO HEAR IT.

SO I WOULD HOPE THAT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A PROCESS, I'D LIKE TO HEAR ALL THE VOTES AGAIN, IF YOU CAN RECONSIDER THAT.

WELL, WE HAVE OKAY.

WHEN YOU VOTE, WHEN YOU VOTE, WHEN YOU GO, CAUSE I HEARD SOME VOTE IN FAVOR, SO I DIDN'T KNOW THE PROCEDURE.

BUT WHEN YOU DO

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UM, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE SHOW A GREAT MESSAGE THAT YOU'RE SHOWING THAT SOMEBODY'S GONNA SUM ALONG THIS IN THE COMMUNITY AND HAS THE AVAILABILITY AND THE MEANS AND WILLING TO DO THAT.

WE PUT UP THAT TIME HERE JUST CUZ HE'S DOING A COMMERCIAL PROJECT.

WHICH EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF.

SO, AND INSTEAD OF, WE COULD HAVE CHANGED THAT, BUT WE JUST PUT IT IN THERE JUST AS A TIMELINE.

IT WASN'T A DEFINITE TIMELINE.

I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA, YOU CAN PUT RESTRICTIONS, WE'LL FOLLOW WHATEVER REGULATIONS YOU HAVE AS FAR AS BUILDING.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT, UM, I HOPE THAT YOU REALLY CONSIDER THIS, UM, A VIABLE OPTION THAT WILL SHOW SOME GOOD FAITH FOR, UH, THE COMMUNITY AND ALSO HAVE SOMEBODY WHO'S A HOMEOWNER THAT'S WILLING TO STILL PURCHASE PROPERTY IN THE AREA AND BUILD HIS HOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH, SIR.

AND ALL, ALL THE, UH, ALL THE INFORMATION, THE COMMISSIONERS WILL USE IT, UH, TO VOTE.

UM, AND I THINK, UH, WHEN YOU HEARD, WHEN THEY SAY THAT THEY'RE DOING, UM, PLANS, PLANS, WE'VE ALL, WE ALWAYS WORKING ON PLANS, NOT NECESSARILY PLANS FOR THAT, BUT THAT, THAT'S WHAT THE HOUSING WORKING GROUP DOES IS, IS WORK ON PLANS.

SO I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE I UNDERSTAND THAT, BUT ALSO IF SOMEBODY'S CONTACTING THE COMMISSIONER AND THE BOARD SAYING, JUST LIKE WHEN I, IF I WAS DOING A CITY OWN PROPERTY, I WOULD CALL THE KIRK AND SAY, IS THIS AVAILABLE? ARE THERE PLANS? BECAUSE THEY CAN LOOK AT MINUTES, EVERYTHING'S DOCUMENTED.

AND THEN I WOULD PUT, PICK ANOTHER PROPERTY THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR US TO SPEND OUR TIME, OUR MONEY AND COME TO THE BOARD MEETINGS AND DO A PROPOSAL, WHICH WE, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT INVOLVED IN, IN PREPARING AND FOLLOWING THIS.

AND WE WERE, WE WERE NOT AWARE FROM MAYBE MEETING BEFORE OCTOBER THAT THE BOARD HAD ANY PLANS FOR THOSE TWO PROPERTIES.

IT, IT WAS A MEETING BEFORE THAT TIME.

WELL COMMISSION, UH, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UM, I GET, HOLD ON A SEC ON IF I'M SUPPOSED TO TALK.

UM, MR. THE MANAGER, YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU NEED TO SAY? NO, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING.

YES SIR.

THANK YOU FOR ACKNOWLEDGING I APPRECIATE IT.

MOMENT.

SO I HAVE A STATEMENT.

SURE.

YOU WANT ME TO UP, EXCUSE ME, HOLD SECOND NAME.

CURTIS STEWART? NO, NO, NO.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE.

YES, SIR.

SO I HAVE A QUESTION AND THEN I HAVE A STATEMENT.

UH, STRICTLY MENTIONED THAT THEY HAVE A PARTNERSHIP WITH SOMEONE ELSE ON THAT PROPERTY PARTNERSHIP, PARTNERSHIP IN DEVELOPMENT.

IT'S NOT DEVELOPMENT, IT'S NOT FINALIZED.

IF IT IN DEVELOPMENT, I'M NOT AT LIBERTY TO SAY UNTIL IT IS FINALIZED.

SO THEN MY STATEMENT WOULD BE THIS.

UH, AND I THINK I'VE TALKED TO KATRICE ABOUT THIS AND THIS.

I, I, I KNOW PETE P DIDN'T ASK ME TO BE HERE TONIGHT.

IT'S JUST REALLY CRAZY THAT HE'S HERE.

AND, UH, I BID IT ON THAT PROPERTY AND I HAD AN ARCHITECT TO LOOK IN THAT PROPERTY AND IT WAS TWO UNITS THERE AND IT COULD HAVE BEEN SAVAGE.

UH, I WAS OUT BIDDED BY THE CITY ON THE PROPERTY AND DID NOT KNOW THAT.

I JUST WANNA MAKE THIS STATEMENT.

THAT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING TO ME.

AND THIS IS WHAT I WAS EXPLAINING TO KATRICE.

IT'S ALMOST LIKE A WASTE OF TIME.

LIKE THIS GENTLEMAN JUST SAID, YOU HAVE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS HERE.

PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND MONEY.

I HAVE A BUSINESS NEAR PETE.

PETE HAS TOOK IN ANOTHER BUILDING AND PUT IT UP IN THE LAST THREE MONTHS.

IT IS VERY FRUSTRATING TO LISTEN TO THIS AND UNDERSTAND THAT PEOPLE WANT TO SPEND THEIR MONEY RIGHT HERE FROM THE COMMUNITY AND YOU GUYS AREN'T ALLOWED IT TO HAPPEN.

THAT HOUSE WAS BROUGHT OVER A YEAR AGO.

AND TO SAY NOW THAT YOU WON'T GIVE OUT WHO THE PERSON IS THAT YOU'RE POTENTIALLY PARTNERING WITH, IT'S STILL JUST SITTING THERE.

NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE.

THE MAN'S WILLING TO SPEND SOME MONEY COUNTING WHAT HE'S SAYING OR SOMETHING, BUT IT'S JUST, IT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

THIS REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS VERY CONFUSING BECAUSE NOTHING'S BEING REDEVELOPED.

AND THEN WHEN YOU GOT PEOPLE THAT'S WILLING TO SPEND MONEY, THE GUYS ARE SHOOTING IT DOWN.

I WAS ON WITH THE GENTLEMAN, HOLLOWAY, THE TALL GUY THAT COMES TO THE MEETING.

WE BID IT ON THAT PROPERTY, HAD NO IDEA WE WERE BIDDING AGAINST THE CITY.

WASTED MONEY, HAVING THE ARCHITECT TO GO LOOK AT THE PROPERTY THAT YOU GUYS WOUND UP TEARING DOWN.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

I SHARE WHAT THIS GENTLEMAN HERE SAID, AND I MENTIONED THIS IN THE LAST MEETING, THE REDEVELOPMENT, IT'S AGAINST STANDARD.

YOU GUYS CANNOT BE OVERSEERS OF PROPERTY.

THERE'S NO WAY.

SO MAYBE THAT'S WHAT THE PARTNERSHIP COMES IN AT AND THAT'S THE WAY YOU'RE GONNA DO IT.

BUT TRANSPARENCY IS NECESSARY CAUSE YOU'RE A WASTE OF PEOPLE'S MONEY AND TIME.

I MEAN, THAT'S NOT RIGHT.

I MEAN, WE ALL PROFESSIONALS HERE, PEOPLE WERE, IT'S A LOT.

PEOPLE ARE SPENDING MONEY AND IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

SO IT'S NOT CLEAR AT THIS POINT WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'S MISSION AND PURPOSE IS.

I SEE THE STANDARDS THAT YOU HAVE WRITTEN OUT IN PAPER, BUT NONE OF THOSE THINGS ARE ACTUALLY HAPPENING.

YOU GOT A HOUSE STILL SITTING THAT NOTHING IS, NOTHING'S HAPPENING THAT YOU MOVE SOME

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TIME AGO.

SO FOR ME IT IS REALLY TRYING TO UNDERSTAND BECAUSE I, AS I, I MENTIONED TO MS. KARISA, I DON'T GOT TIME TO WASTE FOR SOMETHING.

GO DO THIS HOMEWORK AND THEN YOU COME BACK AND YOU SAY, HEY, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS ANYWAY.

YOU GOT, WE'RE GONNA DO SOMETHING ELSE.

IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S, IT IS GOOD FAITH TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT WANT TO SPEND MONEY.

I, THAT'S JUST MY MYSELF.

THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE ATTORNEY.

, UM, WAS THE UPSET THE CITY, THE CITY BID ON THIS YEAR AGO, IS THAT FAR? THAT 48,000 YOU TALKING ABOUT? NO, IT WAS BID $36,000 AND I THINK IT WAS WORTH FOR 38,000 AND THE 10,000 OF THE MILEAGE BROUGHT US UP TO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT.

BUT OTHER PEOPLE ACTUALLY DID IT ON THIS.

I DID IT ON THE HOUSE.

I HAVE IT IN WRITING.

WHEN I WAS TURNED DOWN ON IT, BECAUSE IT WAS, THE CITY WANTED UP PURCHASING IT, THEY TORE IT DOWN.

IT WAS, IT WAS A MULTI DUPLEX, IT WAS TWO UNITS.

IN FACT, THE LADY THAT OWNED THE PROPERTY, I WAS IN CONTACT WITH HER.

SHE HAD SOME, SOME ISSUES.

IN FACT, IT WAS A DEED ISSUE THAT THE CITY HAD TO GO GET STRAIGHT.

CAUSE WHEN YOU GUYS ORIGINALLY PURCHASED IT, IT WASN'T EVEN, IT WASN'T EVEN PROPERLY STRUCTURED THROUGH THE, THE, THE, THE REGISTERED DEED'S OFFICE.

YOU HAD TO GO FIX THAT.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS IT MADE NO SENSE.

SOMEBODY WAS, I WAS READY TO REDEVELOP THAT PROPERTY AGAIN.

IT WAS TWO UNITS, HAD ARCHITECT ALREADY CHECK IT OUT, KNEW WHAT THE STRUCTURAL ISSUES WERE.

GOT OUT BIDDED BY THE CITY BY $2,000, THEN THEY WOULDN'T AND TORE DOWN.

AND NOW YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE GONNA GO BUILD ON IT THREE UNITS WITH NO PLAN OR PLAN.

THAT'S STILL IN DISCOVERY, BUT YOU WON'T GIVE INFORMATION.

NOTHING'S BEING BUILT.

AND THEN YOU GOT SOMEBODY HERE THAT'S SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO BUY IT.

YEAH, MAYBE YOU LOSE SOME MONEY.

GIVE GOD A COUNTER, BUT IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE.

AND THEN YOU TURN AROUND IN ANOTHER SIX MONTHS AND THEN THERE'S NOTHING DONE.

IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME.

I MEAN, REDEVELOPMENT THERE, THERE HAS BEEN NOTHING HAS.

WELL, LET ME, HAS THERE BEEN ANY REDEVELOPMENT DONE SINCE YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED? ANY NEW HOUSES? ANY, HAS ANYTHING BEEN DONE TO THIS DATE POINT? MS. MS. LEE, HAS ANYTHING BEEN REDEVELOPED? HAS ANYTHING BEEN BUILT? A LOT OF THINGS.

A LOT OF THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU HAD, YOU GOT TOGETHER, YOU HAD TO GET APPOINTED A COMMISSION, THEN YOU DID A, UH, PLAN.

DIDN'T WE MOVED THE, UH, MOVE THE HOUSE AND WE PARTNERED WITH CLEANUPS.

THERE'S BEEN QUITE A FEW THINGS I'M SAYING.

HAS ANYTHING BEEN, HAS THERE BEEN ANY NEW STRUCTURES PUT UP? NO.

THANK YOU MR. STEWART.

UM, SURE.

UM, SO MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

SO AT THIS JUNCTURE, YOU HAVE ONE OF TWO COURSES OF ACTION YOU CAN UNDERTAKE.

ONE IS YOU CAN ACCEPT THE BID THAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED, THE OFFICER PURCHASED, AND YOU CAN VOTE TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS.

SO UNDERSTAND STATUTORILY, YOU CANNOT AGREE TODAY TO SELL THIS PROPERTY TO MR. FRY STATUTES.

DON'T ALLOW THAT.

INSTEAD YOU CAN VOTE TO INITIATE A PROCESS THAT WILL ALLOW THE HIGHEST BIDDER, WHOMEVER THAT INDIVIDUAL HAPPENS TO ME TO WIN THAT PROCESS.

AND YOU CAN CONVEY THE PROPERTY TODAY.

THAT PERSON, MAYBE MR. FRY, MAYBE SOMEONE ELSE WE DON'T KNOW AT THIS JUNCTURE.

THAT'S OPTION ONE.

OPTION TWO IS TO, UM, ADOPT THE RECOMMENDATION BY THE HOUSING WORK GROUP AND TO REJECT MR. FRY'S BID AT THIS TIME.

YOU CAN REFLECT UPON THE STATEMENTS THAT WERE MADE TODAY.

YOU CAN REFLECT UPON, UM, THE FINANCIAL INVESTMENT THAT YOU'VE ALREADY UNDERTAKEN.

JUST TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE PROCEDURAL HISTORY, I BELIEVE WAS LAST YEAR THAT PROPERTY WAS UP FOR SALE.

IT WAS A SHORT SALE THROUGH, UM, PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL OWNED THIS HOUSE.

AS I UNDERSTAND IT.

MULTIPLE OFFERS WERE MADE TO THE PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL WHO OWNED THIS HOUSE.

THAT PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL ACCEPTED THE HIGHEST OFFER, WHICH WAS YOUR OFFER OF $38,000.

AND THAT PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL WENT THROUGH A CLOSING PROCESS AND DECIDED TO DEED THE PROPERTY BOTH LOTS AS, UH, THE REALTOR HAS, HAS INDICATED THE TWO LOTS TO THE COMMISSION, FREE AND CLEAR YOU ALL TO DO WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO.

SO YOU DO HAVE SOME FINANCIAL INVESTMENT.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DIALOGUE, BUT THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A DECISION.

SO YOU CAN DO ONE OF TWO MOTIONS MOTION.

ONE COULD BE TO INITIATE THE UPDATE BID PROCESS FOR 2 0 3 AND 2 0 7 JONES STREET MOTION.

TWO COULD BE TO REJECT THE OFFER PRESENTED BY MR. FRY.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

RETURN MOTION ANY FURTHER, UH, QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? IF NOT, UM, IF WE COULD GET, UM, A MOTION ONE WAY OR OTHER, IF WE INITIATED THE UPSET BID PROCESS, THAT MEANS THE SOLID PARTNER WOULD BE AT THE TABLE.

CORRECT.

SO RIGHT.

SAID THAT AGAIN.

COMMISSION ROSS, IF WE UP WOULD INITIATED THE UPSET BID PROCESS, THAT MEANS THE SOLID PARTNER WOULD BE AT THE TABLE TO BID YOU.

CORRECT.

SO IT'S A WIN-WIN FOR BOTH

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SIDES.

THEY JUST GO TO THE UPSET BID AND GO AT IT.

I MEAN, KIND OF RE WE COME OUT OF IT PROCEDURALLY WHAT WE WOULD EXPECT WOULD BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PERSON, A GROUP THAT'S DOING THE DEVELOPMENT WORK AS OPPOSED TO AN OUTRIGHT SALE.

SO WE WOULD ESSENTIALLY, WE WOULD BE A PARTNER IN THE EQUATION.

SO WE'D BE BIDDING AGAINST OURSELVES IF WE INITIATED AN UPSET BID PROCESS.

CAUSE WE'D BE WORKING WITH SOMEONE TO DEVELOP THE PROPERTY.

SO THE SOLID PARTNER IS NOT INTERESTED IN, ACTUALLY IT'S A PARTNERSHIP AND WE'RE NOT A LIBERTY TO KNOW WHO THIS PARTNER IS.

WE'LL HAVE IT READY FOR YOU.

I FULLY EXPECT NEXT MONTH, BUT IT'S NOT.

AND WHAT'S THE HOLD UP? WE CAN'T THIS PROCESS.

HOUSING REQUIRES DETAILED PLANS AND EVERYTHING BEING LAID OUT TO ARRANGE THE FINANCING BEFORE YOU CAN LIE IT.

YOU CAN'T JUST GO GET THE MONEY AND SAY, HEY, WE'RE, I UNDERSTAND.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE, UH, THAT WE REJECT MR. FRY'S OFFER AND GO WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE HOUSING WORK GROUP.

THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE HOUSING WORK IS TO REJECT AND PROVIDE OFFER.

NO, SECOND.

SECOND.

COMMISSIONER WALLACE? NO THANKS.

YOU WANNA CALL FOR ROLL CALL? OKAY.

OKAY, LET'S DO, UH, ROLL CALL.

STEPHANIE, YES OR NO? MS. WALKER.

COMMISSION WALKER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN? NO.

HERE? YES.

CHAIR.

AGAIN, MR. DIDN'T I? NO.

DID I GIVE YOU, OH, I'M SORRY.

I THOUGHT I DID.

YES, COMMISSIONER.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND IS? YES.

I'VE GOT TOO MANY HERE.

HI, COMMISSIONER LUK IS NO COMMISSIONER.

UH, BETH WALKER IS? YES.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN IS NO.

COMMISSIONER WALLACE IS NO.

AND THE, UH, CHAIR IS? YES.

SO THAT'S ONE, TWO, UM, 44? YES.

JUST THE FINAL COUNT.

IT WAS, UH, FOUR TO, UH, FOUR TO THREE.

MOTION CARRIES.

OH, EXCUSE ME.

ALL IN, UH, I DID SAY ALL THE FAVOR.

RIGHT? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE FOLLOWING PROCEDURE.

YOU, YOU DID.

ONCE, ONCE IMMEDIATE, IMMEDIATE.

WANNA MAKE SURE, MAY I HAVE A QUESTION PLEASE? IF I MAY? UH, MRS. WALKER WAS SAYING THAT THERE'S A TIMEFRAME ATTACHED TO THIS MM-HMM.

THAT IF CERTAIN, CERTAIN, UM, CRITERIA IS NOT MET BY, OR IF WE DON'T GET THE, OR IF YOU DON'T GET THE COOPERATION FROM YOUR OTHER SOURCE OR WHATEVER.

WHAT IS THAT TIMEFRAME? OR DO WE HAVE A TIMEFRAME? YOU SAID THAT THERE WAS A TIMEFRAME THAT IT CAME TO NOT THEIR, THEIR FUNDING WOULD EXPIRE.

SO THEY, WHAT IS THAT TIMEFRAME? TWO, TWO YEARS.

THE MONEY, MONEY WOULD BE, NEED TO BE SPENT TWO YEARS COMPLETE, NOT START COMPLETED.

DO THEY HAVE A START TIME? DO THEY HAVE TO, TO, TO COMPLY WITH IT? IT'LL BE THEIR OWN START TIME, WHICH IS IMMEDIATE.

ONCE THEY'RE, ONCE IT GETS APPROVED BY THEIR, WHEREVER THEY'RE GETTING THEIR MONEY, THE FINANCING PACKAGE, THEN THEY EXPECT TO GO TO WORK WITH YOU.

TO FIND AN ALTERNATE SITE IF MR. FRY DEEMED IT NECESSARY THAT HE WAS WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD OR, IS THAT CORRECT? SURE.

AND ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I HEARD WAS THAT THE WORKING GROUP WOULD HELP TO TRY

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MR. UH, I IF YOU WOULD, UM, UM, CONTACT, UH, MR. PATRICIA HERE SO THAT WE CAN SET UP A TIME TO, TO LEAVE YOU DO THAT.

[5. Consider resolution authorizing payment for Full Asbestos Inspection at 908 Bloomfield Street.]

TO AGENDA ITEM, UH, FIVE, UH, CONSIDERATION, CONSIDERATION OF A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING PAYMENT FOR FULL AS BEST INSPECT INSPECTION AT 9 0 8.

UH, BLOOMFIELD.

IT'S JUST, UH, RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING, UH, PAYMENT OF, UH, THAT INVOICE BIDS INVOICE 15,200 AND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN $945.

APPROVED THE TESTING.

$945.

AND SPIRIT OF BEING HELD.

SO AT YOUR LAST MEETING, UM, YOU ALL VOTED TO CONDUCT ASBESTOS TESTING AT NINE BLOOMFIELD STREET WAS REQUIRED? YES.

UM, BECAUSE THAT'S A REQUIREMENT FOR PUBLIC WORKS TO, TO DO ITS WORK.

AT THAT TIME.

WE HAD A BALLPARK FIGURE OF WHAT THAT TESTING.

WE DID NOT HAVE A FINAL AMOUNT.

THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY, UM, STAFF THOUGHT IT WAS NECESSARY FOR YOU ALL TO SEE THAT FULL COST AND VOTE TO, TO, UH, AUTHORIZE PAYMENT.

SO THAT INVOICE HAS BEEN INCLUDED FOR YOUR, YOUR REFERENCE.

UM, I THINK THAT INVOICE IS A DOLLAR AMOUNT OF 9 45.

COMMISSIONER LUBBOCK? YES.

UM, SO THIS IS THE BOARD'S PLEASURE TO AUTHORIZE THE RESOLUTION TO TENDER PAYMENT TO THE ASBESTOS TESTING.

ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? BLOOMFIELD 9 0 8.

MAKE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE RESOLUTION TO PAY NINE $45 FOR ASBESTOS.

THAT'S TESTING AT OH EIGHT BLOOMFIELD STREET.

THANK.

COMMISSIONER WALKER? YES.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN? YES.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? YES.

COMMISSIONER WALLACE? YES.

VICE CHAIR? YES.

CHAIR? YES.

MOTION CARRIES FOR 945.

ITEM ITEM ITEM NUMBER SIX AT THAT, THE BOARD'S PLACE.

[6. Approve resolution authorizing ED to approve invoices up to $1,000.00]

ITEM SIX TONIGHT.

APPROVED RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO APPROVE INVOICES UP TO, UH, 1000, UM, DOLLARS.

DO YOU, UH, WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION? WANT IT? UM, TABLE, THE REASON I PUT IT UP THERE, BECAUSE YOU SEE THIS HERE CAME TO US $945 AND SHE SHOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, DO I THINK AT LEAST A THOUSAND WITHOUT IT COMING TO THE POOL COMMISSION.

AND SO, UM, THAT'S ONE OF THE REASONS THAT I, I, UM, I PUT THERE.

I I HAVE DISCUSSED IT WITH HER AND ALL OTHERS.

AND SO THE ITEM SAYS, HAS TABLE.

SO WE GONNA TABLE YES, WE'RE GONNA, WHY, WHY WOULD WE TABLE IT? WE'RE JUST GONNA SLOW HER DOWN.

I SEE A PRETTY DETAIL OF STORY OVER HERE.

I'M DEPRESSED.

I DON'T SEE WISE IT'S A THOUSAND.

MR. WALLACE A CITY ALLOW ME TO HELP.

OH, .

IT'S LIKE SAYING IT'S PROBABLY A CITY.

IT'S PROBABLY A, A, A THING.

I WORK HERE, SO I, YOU KNOW, OH, TABLE.

ALLOW ME TO, TO ADD SOME ADDITIONAL FACTS THAT MIGHT HELP CLARIFY WHY STAFF RECOMMENDED PLEASE RETORT.

SO, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'S BUDGET, WE HAVE AN ANNUAL BUDGET THAT'S A PART OF THE CITY'S BUDGET.

SO STATUTORILY, YOU'RE

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YOUR OWN ENTITY.

UM, HOWEVER, FOR PURPOSES OF FINANCING AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT RULES, YOU ARE UNDER THE CITY'S FINANCING SYSTEM.

AND THE CITY'S FINANCIAL SYSTEM GOES FISCAL YEAR, JULY ONE TO JUNE 30TH.

THIS IS DECEMBER, OBVIOUSLY.

SO IN, OR THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY COMING UP IN JANUARY FOR YOU ALL TO LOOK AT YOUR VARIOUS ACCOUNTS MM-HMM.

, UM, TO LOOK AT THOSE BALANCES, TO POSSIBLY MOVE MONEY TO THOSE BALANCES THAT WILL ALLOW FOR YOU ALL TO DO THE TYPE OF WORK THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DOING IN THE NEAR FUTURE.

SO IT'S CLEANER TO DO ALL OF THAT ANALYSIS AT ONE TIME TO SAY, LET'S LOOK AT OUR BUDGET, LET'S LOOK AT THE MONEY WE HAVE.

DO WE NEED TO SET UP ANY SPECIAL PROJECT FUNDS TO CARRY OUT THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO? AND TO DIRECT OR AUTHORIZE, UM, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO MAKE, UM, EXPENDITURES UP TO A CERTAIN LIMIT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THAT SAME ANALYSIS SO THAT YOU CAN LOOK AT ALL THE FINANCES AND HAVE THE FULL PICTURE TO MAKE THE BEST DETERMINATION AT Y.

SO IT MAY BE IN THE JANUARY MEETING, UM, BUT YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT FINANCIAL ANALYSIS THAT MIGHT BE MORE APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER THIS RECOMMENDATION WHEN YOU ARE WORKING ON YOUR BUDGET.

THANK YOU COUNSEL.

, TAKE THAT ADVICE.

SO WE ARE, WE'RE TABLING THAT OUT.

UNTIL THE JANUARY MEETING.

CAN WE GET A SECOND, PLEASE? SECOND, SECOND QUESTIONS, DISCUSSION.

UH, NOW WE WILL HAVE OUR EXECUTIVE,

[8. Executive Director Report]

UH, DIRECTORS REPORT.

UH, MS. BOWMAN, THANK YOU.

SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF YOUR PACKET SO YOU HAVE A COPY OF IN YOUR PACKAGE OF THE REPORT.

UM, BASICALLY MY FIRST 90 DAYS, UM, THIS WAS EFFECTIVE DECEMBER THE FIRST, IN THAT 90 DAYS I'VE MET WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE, A LOT OF LISTENING SESSIONS WERE DONE.

UM, JUST TO GET A FEEL FOR NOT ONLY, UM, THE COMMUNITY, UM, THE GROUPS THAT ARE IN THE COMMUNITY, THE THREE GROUPS, UM, MET WITH, UM, TWO OF THE, UM, INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE PART OF THE CIRCLE OF HOPE.

UM, MET WITH VARIOUS ALDERMEN AND MET WITH STAFF AND, UM, THE COMMISSION ITSELF.

SO, UM, I APPRECIATE THAT MY NEXT 90 DAYS IS GOING TO BE MORE INTENTIONAL IN WHO I AM MEETING WITH, UM, TO HELP TO DEVELOP A PLAN OF ACTION TO ADDRESS OUR ISSUES, AND ALSO TO LOOK AT, UM, THE PARTNERSHIPS AS WELL TO, UM, BE ABLE TO INCREASE NOT ONLY THE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY, PUTTING FORTH A RECOMMENDATION, BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE TO GET THEM READY AND PREPARED FOR THAT INITIATIVE.

SO IF IT'S ANYTHING THAT, UM, YOU SEE IN THE REPORT THAT I COULD EXPAND ON OR SOMETHING THAT I AM NOT DOING, OR, OR EVEN AN EXPECTATION, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

UP TO, UH, AGENDA ITEM SEVEN.

ANY QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, PLEASE REACH OUT.

UH, PLEASE REACH OUT AND HER BY PHONE, UH, TEXT OR, UM, OR EMAIL.

YOU CAN EVEN, UM, TAKE LUNCH OVER $25.

IT'S NOT ALLOWED .

SO PLEASE DO THAT AND CONTINUE TO, UH, ENCOURAGE HER.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.

UM, GOING BACK

[7. Authorized Payment to UF Strategies LLC and discussion of tentatively rescheduling in January 2023 (Wednesday or Saturday)]

IT IS THE AUTHORIZED TO PAYMENT, UH, TO UF, UM, STRATEGIES, L L C AND DISCUSSION OF ATTEMPT RESCHEDULING IN JANUARY, UH, ON A WEDNESDAY OR UM, A SATURDAY, UH, MS. TARA DID COME.

UH, SHE DID COME HERE AND SHE, UM, UH, SHE WAS READY TO GO, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE A FORUM.

WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND LIFE EVENTS.

WE CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT.

UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, WE ARE, UH, VOLUNTEERS, BUT WE NEED TO GET THE STRATEGIC PLAN, UH, DONE AND WE NEED TO GET IT DONE IN, UM, JANUARY.

AND SHE'S HAPPY TO, UH, COME BACK.

SHE HAS NO, UH, COMPLAINTS ABOUT, UH, THAT, UM, MS. KITCHEN IS, IS VERY GOOD AT, UH, WHAT SHE DOES.

SHE RAN THE NORTH CAROLINA COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, UM, INITIATIVE AND SO, UH, AND HAS WORKED ALL OVER THE NATION.

SO SHE CERTAINLY, UH, UNDERSTANDS AND DEFINITELY UNDERSTANDS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT.

UM, AND SO WE NEED TO AUTHORIZE THE PAYMENT TO PAY HER, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE ALSO NEED TO CHOOSE A DATE, WHICH WE GONNA TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT LATER.

SO LOOK AT JANUARY, WE HAVE A MEETING ON JANUARY THE 11TH.

UM, MY PROPOSAL IS JANUARY THE 20, UH, FIFTH.

UM, BUT LIKE I SAID, WE'LL LOOK AT THAT AT THE END OF, UM,

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IN, OF THE MEETING.

BUT WE NEED TO GET THIS DONE.

THIS IS LIKE OUR THIRD OR FOURTH.

WE'VE BEEN PUTTING IT OFF AND WE'VE CHANGED AND WE'VE DONE THIS AND WE'VE DONE, DONE THAT.

IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD FOR THE, UM, CITY.

IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD TO OUR PARTNERS.

IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD TO, LIKE I SAID, BUT WE ALL UNDERSTAND.

WE UNDERSTAND, UH, LIFE, UH, AND LIFE, UH, HAS A TENDENCY TO, YOU KNOW, TO ENTER INTERJECT.

BUT PLEASE TAKE A, UM, LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR.

WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.

I, LIKE I SAID AT THE END OF THE MEETING, BUT ATTENDANCE IS VERY, UH, VERY IMPORTANT BOTH AT THE MEETINGS AND, YOU KNOW, AT OUR, UM, SPECIAL UH, SESSIONS.

UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANTED TO DO WAS ACTUALLY TO, UM, NOT HAVE A SECOND MEETING, BUT HOLD, HOLD, HOLD, UM, THAT PLACE IN YOUR, UM, CALENDAR FOR THE SECOND WEDNESDAY FOR US TO DO WORK FOR US TO ACTUALLY HAVE WORK SESSIONS AND HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONVER CONVERSATIONS SO THAT WHEN WE COME TO THE BOARD BOARD MEETING, WE WILL HAVE A, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS, YOU KNOW, WORK WORKED OUT.

SO, UM, JUST, JUST THINK ABOUT, UM, THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW WE NEED TO AUTHORIZE PAYMENT, UM, TO HER.

UH, SHE WILL NOT GET, UH, PAID UNTIL SHE, SHE COMES BACK, UH, BY OUT OF, UH, WITH FAITH YOU COULD GO AHEAD AND FAIL, BUT, UH, GET, SO YOU GOTTA AUTHORIZE TO PAYMENT IT ANYWAY.

SAY THAT WRONG.

THERE'S NO YEAH, $900.

EXCUSE ME.

THAT'S IN YOUR 9 35 9 9 0 5.

THAT'S IT.

SO SHE'S NOT CHARGED.

SHE HAD TO COME HERE.

WE COULDN'T HAVE A MEETING.

SHE WAS READY.

WE WERE ALL READY.

AND THEN SHE'S GONNA COME BACK.

FOR HER SAME FEE.

, THAT'S VERY NICE OF HER.

YES IT IS.

BUT NOTHING FIVE IS THE, OKAY.

, THAT'S THE TOTAL $905 IS THE TOTAL TWO TRIPS.

YOU CAN THANK ME LATER.

JOB.

ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT? OR WILL WE NEED A MOTION? MM-HMM.

MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE, UH, PAYMENT TO THE CONSULTANT FOR OUR, UH, STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, RIGHT A SECOND IN THE AMOUNT OF NOW THE AMOUNT OF $905.

, WE HAVE A SECOND.

THERE'S NOT A CITY POLICY ON SERVICE BEING RENDERED BEFORE PAYMENT IS MADE.

I'VE GOT ONE ECU THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.

SHE WOULD NOT, SHE, IF SHE COMES BACK IN JANUARY, SHE WILL NOT, UM, RECEIVE IT BEFORE THAT.

WELL, I, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION AND, AND MADE MISTAKENLY SAID THAT THIS WAS FOR THE SESSION THAT ALREADY OCCURRED.

IF THAT'S NOT THE CASE, THEN I GUESS IT WAS A SESSION.

IT WAS A SESSION WASN'T IT? YES, IT WAS A SESSION.

SO SOMEWHERE GOOD THEN IF IT WAS FOR THE ONE THAT OCCURRED.

SO SWITCH BACK TO THE QUESTION JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR, BECAUSE THE DATE ON THIS INVOICE THAT'S IN YOUR PACKET IS DECEMBER 2ND, THE PAYMENT DATE OF DECEMBER 17TH, IS THAT FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING OR IS THAT FOR JANUARY MEETING? IT'S FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING.

AND THERE'LL BE A SEPARATE INVOICE FOR THE JANUARY MEETING.

SOUNDS LIKE THERE WILL NOT BE AN INVOICE FOR THE JANUARY MEETING.

CAUSE I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO HAVE CLARIFY.

AS FAR AS I KNOW IT'S NOT, WE HAVE IN WRITING FROM THIS INDIVIDUAL.

I HAVE TO CLARIFY THAT.

YEAH, BECAUSE UM, FOR THE SESSION SHE WAS HERE AND PRESIDENT WITH, SO SHE SERVICE IS ALREADY, I ALREADY, SHE HERE.

READY? I JUST DOUBLE CHECKING.

MAKE SURE IT WORKS.

YOUR FAITH, SHE'S GONNA COME DOWN.

BUT YOU NEED TO GET AT HER, RIGHT? YES.

PROPOSED, UH, BUDGET, UM, ORDINANCE FOR, UH, AN INVOICE

UH, ALL YOU HAVE, HAVE WE HAD A NO MOTION AND A SECOND.

GOT A COUPLE MORE HERE.

UM,

[9. Proposed Budget Ordinance Amendment]

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FOR 9 0 8 BLOOMFIELD AND THE VEHICLE NINE, UH, NINE 11 CHARGE YOU MS. YOU TAKE THAT AND THEN I'M GONNA FOLLOW UP.

SO, UM, 9 0 8 BLOOMFIELD, OF COURSE THE ASBESTOS TESTING WAS DONE.

THE INTERIOR DIDN'T HAVE A DROP OF ASBESTOS IN IT.

SO WHAT HAPPENED WHEN THEY ACTUALLY PUT THAT BRICK ON THE EXTERIOR, THEY PUT IT ON TOP OF THE ASBESTOS.

SO THE BRICKS HAVE TO BE MOVED FIRST AND THEN AFTER THE BRICKS ARE MOVED, THEN THE ASBESTOS HAS TO BE ABATED.

UM, OUR ORIGINAL, UM, PRICE ESTIMATE WAS COKE THAT WE RECEIVED WAS WELL OVER $20,000.

I HAVE TO GIVE CREDIT TO UM, MATT BOSLEY AND ALSO PUBLIC WORKS AND PATRICK FOR, THEY TOOK A TEAM OUT THERE TO SEE WHAT THEY COULD DO AND RAN VARIOUS OPTIONS TO REDUCE THE PRICE AND TO DO IT SAFELY.

SO WHAT THEY CAME, IT CAME DOWN TO A LITTLE BIT OVER 15,000.

THEY WERE ABLE TO REDUCE IT AND PUBLIC'S WORK IS GONNA WORK WITH THE UM, ABATEMENT TEAM AND WE'LL GET IT DONE.

OH, UH, THE BID FOR NINE 11 AND THEN FOR NINE 11 FEW BANKS, UM, WE RECEIVED A BID AND BETH WERE TIRELESSLY AND GOT THAT BID REDUCED.

UM, THAT BID IS COMING OUT.

OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS, THOSE FUNDS WERE STEADY DWINDLING.

SO BETH WENT BACK AND HAD THAT CONTRACT AMOUNT DWINDLE TOO.

SO INITIALLY, UM, IT WAS $14,670 SHORT.

UM, THAT MEANS WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH IN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS TO PAY THE WHOLE AMOUNT.

SO WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO PAY THE REMAINING BALANCE.

HE HAS REDUCED IT AGAIN BY $8,000, BUT THAT'S IT.

SO WE ARE GONNA HAVE TO PAY OUR, THE $8,000 OUT OF GENERAL FUNDS, BUT WE CANNOT DO THAT UNTIL WE ARE ABLE TO, UM, TRANSFER THAT $55,000 AND THEN MAKE THOSE UM, PAYMENTS IN JANUARY.

IT HAS TO GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN 55,000.

YES SIR.

IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES.

9 0 8, NO, BETWEEN 9 0 8 BLOOMFIELD AND UH, NINE 11 YOU SO WHAT WAS THE AMOUNT FROM 9 0 8 AND WHAT WAS THE BLOOMFIELD TO REMOVE THE ASBE THAT YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE GONNA WORK WITH US ON? UHHUH SAID 15, 15 K MM-HMM.

AND THEN AK FOR NINE 11.

YOU? YES.

WELL, AK FOR NINE 11 MM-HMM.

THE, WELL, BECAUSE THE REST OF IT TOMORROW IS FROM THE CDVG FUNDS, THE HUNDRED $77,000 IS COMING OUT OF THE GRANT MONEY.

THAT'S THE OVERAGE FOR BOTH PROPERTIES FOR NINE 11 A HUNDRED.

WE GOT 177,000.

BUT YOU DON'T SEE AL ADDING UP? SHE HAD, WE HAVE TO MOVE THE 55 BECAUSE WE ARE IN THE NEGATIVE FOR OTHER THINGS THAT WE HAVE PAID.

SO IT'S A COMBINATION, BUT THOSE ARE THE ONES FOR THAT.

WE KNOW WHAT PLAN FOR THAT.

NINE 11 UBANK STREET.

HAS ANYBODY BEEN INTERESTED AFTER THE CONVERSATION WE JUST HAD, I NEED TO START ASKING QUESTIONS IN THIS MEETING.

SO HAS, HAS ANYBODY ELSE BEEN INTERESTED IN THAT PROPERTY? OVERBUILDING ON NINE 11 UBANK STREET? WELL, YOU NEED TO PURCHASE IT OR PURCHASE IT.

DO ANYTHING WITH ANY INTEREST? WE'VE HAD ZERO INTEREST, BUT IT WAS WENT UP VEHICLE FOUR TIMES.

RIGHT? NO, THAT'S THE CONSTRUCTION.

AS FAR AS SOMEBODY AS PURCHASING OR, OR WE HAVE TO FOLLOW THE CDB THE GUIDELINES ON THAT, WHICH IS TO A LOW WEB, UH, PERSON.

SO WHETHER IS, UM, RENTAL AND THE SIGN HASN'T BEEN PUT UP, WHETHER IT'S GONNA BE FOR SALE OR RENTAL, BUT WE HAVE HAD NOBODY INTERESTED IN THAT PROPERTY.

WELL, I HAVE, I HAVE HEARD SOME PEOPLE TALK TO YOU ABOUT IT.

YEAH, I'VE HEARD ABOUT IT.

GOT I'VE HAD INDIVIDUALLY, BUT IT'S BEEN SOME INQUIRIES.

THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.

IN AN OPEN MEETING SO I CAN ANSWER.

UM, SOME PEOPLE HAVE ASKED, UH, ABOUT A MATTER OF FACT SOME RESIDENTS FROM UH, FROM I'VE RECEIVED ABOUT THREE OR FOUR CALLS.

CAN WE REALLOCATE THAT TO SOMETHING ELSE? $177,000 IS A LOT TO START TURNING OVER SOME SHOVELING, DOING THIS AND THAT.

LEMME ASK YOU THIS QUESTION CAN SIT, I'M GONNA LET YOU GO ROCK UP SHUT, I PROMISE YOU.

, THE C BG FUNDS, CAN'T THOSE BE REALLOCATED IF THAT PERSON IS STILL INTERESTED IN THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE?

[01:05:01]

I MEAN, THAT'S SOME MONEY.

CAN THAT BE REPURPOSED SOMEWHERE ELSE? YES.

AND UM, LET ME GO, LET ME CHECK ON THAT.

BUT WE'RE WE'RE GETTING A TIME CRUNCH ON THAT MONEY TOO THOUGH, AREN'T WE? YEAH.

CAUSE WE DO, WE JUNE I DO, YES.

SO THAT'S WHY THINGS DON'T MOVE AS FAST.

THERE'S A LOT OF STIPULATIONS AND THEN THERE'S A LOT OF TIME IN ALL OF THAT.

IT'S A LOT MORE TO MR. STEWART.

WE'RE STILL HERE, BUT WE'RE PLAYING IN THE WORLD OF GOVERNMENT AND THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT HERE TO HELP US ACCOMPLISH THINGS.

NO, I MEAN A PERSONAL OPINION IN THAT WE HAD TO GO THROUGH, CUZ WHEN WE WERE USING CPG MONEY, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THIS BIDDING PROCESS THAT NOBODY WOULD BID.

WE SPENT THREE MONTHS TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO BID ON THE REHABBING OF THAT HOUSE.

SO I UNDERST UNDERSTAND ABOUT WASTING TIME AND ENERGY.

I CAME IN HERE.

FOUR DIFFERENT TIMES.

SET BID.

WE PAID MONEY TO ADVERTISE IT.

TALK TO PEOPLE PERSONALLY.

I'M GONNA COME.

NOBODY CAME.

SO NOBODY'S BID ON THE PARTY.

NEVER SHOWED UP TO ME.

NO.

NOPE.

I I MET A CONTRACTOR THROUGH OTHER WORK AND INVITED HIM TO BID AND, AND WE HAD HOUSE TO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

SO HE SAID YES HE WOULD AND HE DID.

HE YES HE DID.

HE DID CHOKE.

AND THEN HE HAS WORKED WITH ME TO TAKE HIS PRICE DOWN.

HE'S GONE IN THERE AND LOOKED AT IT AND, AND WORKED.

BUT WE HAVE TO GET APPROVAL OF THIS AND APPROVAL OF THAT AND APPROVAL OF THIS AND APPROVAL OF THAT.

AND IT'S BEEN TWO MONTHS SINCE HE GAVE US HIS BID.

WE GOT A VOTE ON IT.

THIS IS WHERE 90.

WE HAD TO WORK THROUGH A CONSULTANT IN PHILADELPHIA TO EVEN GET THE PAPERWORK.

OH MY GOSH.

I'M AS FRUSTRATED AS YOU ARE.

BUT, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE, WE DON'T DO ANYTHING.

WE ARE HAMSTRUNG NO, NO.

BY THE GOVERNMENT.

TRUST ME, I, WE HAVE THIS MONEY THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT UNTIL THE BOARD OF ORDER APPROVES.

I MEAN, WELL THERE ARE, THERE ARE PROTOCOLS AND PROCESSES AND THAT'S THE WAY THE WORLD WORKS.

SO I WONDER IF I UNDERSTAND WHY THINGS DON'T HAPPEN, IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE SITTING AROUND HERE NOT DOING ANYTHING FOR FOUR YEARS.

IT'S CAUSE THE, EVERYTHING'S GOT STRINGS ATTACHED TO IT THAT WE GOTTA PULL 'EM THIS WAY OR THAT WAY TO GET IT TO HAPPEN.

I WORKED, BUT WE GET ALL THE BLAME.

IT'S A GOOD THING.

IT HOLDS US ACCOUNT OF WHAT MAKES US BETTER STEWARDS, YOU KNOW? AND EVERYBODY SHOULD, SHOULD BE WATCHING THE TAX MONEY THAT GOES OUT.

SO, UH, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PART OF IT IS PART OF THE PROCESS.

AND WE ALL UNDER, WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR AGREE OR DISAGREE.

IT'S NOT A, IT'S NOT ABOUT THAT.

WE NEED THE GOVERNMENT AS OUR, OUR PARTNERS, WHETHER THE CITY, COUNTY, STATE, UH, FEDERAL, WE NEED COMMUNITY PARTNERS.

WE NEED ALL, ALL, ALL THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, YOU AT THE SAME TIME YOU NEED THAT.

AND THEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU DON'T NEED THE PARTNERSHIP.

SO, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S PART OF IT.

I LOVE PROTOCOL AND PROCESS AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS.

IT TAKES TIME TO, AND, UH, AND I KNOW SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, PATIENCE IS, IT IS A VIRTUAL, BUT WE DON'T THINK OF IT AS WORD.

SO I'M RUNNING OUT.

SORRY, .

IT'S OKAY.

IT'S, IT'S, IT'S OKAY.

I UNDERSTAND.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN, FIRST OF ALL, I DO BELIEVE IN THE PROCESS AND I DO RESPECT ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND THE SKILL SETS.

AND NOBODY BETTER NOT EVER SAY THAT YOU ALL DON'T DO ANYTHING.

CAUSE I KNOW, BUT I AM GONNA ASK A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I NEED CLARIFICATION ON.

$177,000 REPRESENTS WHAT? C THAT'S THE CDBG GRANT.

HOW MUCH DID IT COST US TO MOVE THAT HOUSE? YOU HAD IT WITH YOU.

26 20 I THINK IT WAS.

26,000, $30,000.

WHAT OTHER MONEYS HAVE WE PUT INTO THAT HOUSE? OBJECTION.

THE FOUNDATION.

14,000.

SOME ODD DOLLARS FOR A FOUNDATION.

END OF 2000 FOR THE EXTRA PAYMENT FOR NOT REMOVING MONEY.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT KEEPING THAT HOUSE.

WHAT, UH, 900,000 SQUARE FEET, BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE SAME HOUSE.

900 SQUARE FEET.

13.

BECAUSE THEY CUT THAT BACK ROOM OFF WHEN THEY MOVED IT.

IT'S 1300.

NO, WHAT IS IT NOW? SQUARE FEET.

1300.

HE'S 13 NOW.

A QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLAR HOUSE, 1300 SQUARE FOOT ON EUBANK STREET.

IS IT 13? THAT'S THAT, THAT'S A GIFT.

AND I DO RESPECT, AND I DO RESPECT THE GOVERNMENT ALSO, AND I ALSO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD.

ARE WE REALLY TALKING ABOUT

[01:10:01]

, WE HAD THIS DISCUSSION.

I MEAN, I, I MEAN, I DO APOLOGIZE FOR NOT BEING PRESENT AND I'M LOOK IN EVERYBODY'S FACE.

ARE YOU ALL SERIOUS? MM-HMM.

WELL, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT THAT WAY.

THAT'S THE WAY.

OR YOU CAN LOOK AT IT AS THE FACT OF, UM, DOES THE MONEY MATTER WHEN YOU PUTTING SOMEBODY IN A HOUSE? SECOND OF ALL, IT'S NOT THE COMMUNITY WORTH IT.

THIRD OF ALL, A LOT OF US COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE MONEY THAT WAS SPENT THERE.

IT JUST, UH, IS, IS, IS IT IS JUST, UH, AUDIT.

SO WHAT, WHAT REALLY ARE WE, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE? YOU KNOW, IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

IT DOESN'T MAKE GOOD BUSINESS SENSE IN THE, IN GOVERNMENT EITHER.

IT DOESN'T MAKE, IT DOESN'T MAKE GOOD SENSE IN YOUR HOUSEHOLD.

BUT THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE.

SO WE CAN EITHER SIT HERE AND CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION OR WE CAN FINISH THIS HOUSE, GET SOMEBODY IN IT, WHETHER IT IS RENTAL, WHETHER IT IS, IT IS IT'S HOME OWNERSHIP AND, AND, AND MOVE ON WITH IT.

CAUSE HOUSING MATTERS.

WHEN YOU HAVE 76% RENTERS, 27% HOME OWNERSHIP, AND YOU TURN EVERY CORNER AND YOU LOOK AROUND AND THERE ARE PEOPLE SLEEPING EVERYWHERE, SLEEPING IN THEIR CARS.

THAT'S NOT A DAY GO BY THAT SOMEBODY'S NOT CALLING YOU ABOUT SLEEPING IN THEIR CAR REGARDLESS OF WHETHER WE SEE IT OR, UH, WE SEE IT OR NOT.

SO, I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE, WHAT ARE WE DOING? WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? MADAM CHAIRPERSON? THIS IS WHAT, THIS IS WHAT OUR PLAN SAYS.

AND LIKE I SAID, I I, I, I UNDERSTAND.

I'VE DONE HAVE THIS CONVERSATION LIKE FIVE TIMES THIS WEEK.

, MADAM, MADAM CHAIRPERSON.

SO I I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

THEY DON'T CALL, THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T CALL ME ABOUT SLEEPING IN THEIR CARS.

I WALK BY THEIR CARS AND I SEE 'EM SLEEPING ON 'EM.

THAT I JUST NEEDED CLARIFICATION.

AND I'M TRYING TO TELL YOU IS THAT YEAH, A LOT OF US AND THAT I DO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD AND I DO UNDERSTAND GOVERNMENT MONEY AND I DO UNDERSTAND PRIVATE MONEY.

I WORK FOR MY MONEY EVERY SINGLE DAY.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND, AND MOST OF MY COMMUNITY, ALL OF MY COMMUNITY WORK FOR THEIR MONEY.

AND WHAT THEY DO GET IS JUST A DROP OF THE BUCKET.

BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIND OUT IS HOW MUCH MORE, AND I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION, PERIOD.

AND WHEN I TRY TO GET CLARIFICATION, BECAUSE I'M HERE FOR MY COMMUNITY AND I'M HERE FOR MY PEOPLE AND WHAT I MEAN MY PEOPLE, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE CITY OF NEW BERN AS A WHOLE AND I'M ALSO HERE SO THAT I CAN EXPLAIN WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.

NOT WHAT I'M DOING HERE, BUT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE.

BECAUSE AS WE ARE NOT DOING WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, AND IF IT DON'T MAKE MCDONALD'S, IT DON'T MAKE SENSE AS THEY SAY.

AND RIGHT NOW I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO AT LEAST PUT IT OUT THERE AND JUST TO SAY, HEY, WELL THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOVERNMENT MONEY AND PRIVATE MONEY.

WELL, I KNOW THAT THERE IS, BUT TRY TO EXPLAIN THAT TO SOMEBODY WHO IS SLEEPING IN THEIR CAR.

AND HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN YOU HOUSE AND HOW MANY DIFFERENT HOUSES CAN YOU HAVE AND HOW MANY PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, I JUST NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION SO THAT I CAN TAKE IT FURTHER, BUT STILL BE WITHIN MY DUTY TO THE COMMISSION TO MAKE SURE THAT I AM, I CAN'T EVEN READ FROM HERE, BUT ANYWAY, ON THE SAME PAGE AND STILL BELIEVE AND MAKE THEM BELIEVE AND CONVINCE THEM TO BELIEVE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE AFTER FOUR YEARS.

SO THAT'S WHERE I AM RIGHT NOW.

I'M NOT OKAY, BUT I WILL BE OKAY BECAUSE I DO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD.

BUT I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT I MAKE MY STANCE KNOWN AND THAT I GET CLARIFICATION SO THAT I CAN TAKE IT FORTH AND EXPLAIN IT IN THE WAY IT SHOULD BE EXPLAINED AS IT RELATES TO WHAT I HAVE TAKEN ON AS A RESPONSIBILITY TO BE ON THIS COMMISSION AND RESPECT ALL OF YOU AND RESPECT YOUR WAYS AND YOUR WISHES.

AND AS I'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW ALL OF YOU, I DO THAT AND I DO TRUST YOU AND EXPECT YOU TO HAVE THE BEST FOR MY COMMUNITY WHERE I LIVE.

NOT WHERE YOU ALL LIVE, BUT WHERE I LIVE TO DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THEM AND FOR US AND FOR ME.

SO THAT'S WHY I JUST ASKED FOR CLARIFICATION.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND.

AND I AM SORRY THAT YOU HAVE TO RECEIVE ALL OF THOSE PHONE CALLS.

I DON'T RECEIVE THE PHONE CALLS.

THEY COME TO MY HOUSE, KNOCK ON THE DOOR AND KNOCK ON MY DOOR.

OR IF I WALK DOWN THE STREET AND SEE 'EM.

SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO EXPLAIN IS

[01:15:01]

UH, SO I COULD TAKE SOME NUMBERS BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS, I CAN, I MEAN, I WAS GOOD IN MATH IN SCHOOL.

WELL, AND ROBBIE, THIS MONEY IS 2020 MONEY AND 2021 MONEY.

IT WAS NEVER USED.

AND IT HAPPENED TO BE USED BY JUNE, CORRECT.

OR JULY.

THERE'S DIFFERENT DATES, RIGHT? COURSE, BUT NOBODY'S USED IT.

SO I, I THINK WHEN THIS PROCESS STARTED, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD WAY TO USE THE MONEY WE HAD THE HOUSE, WE COULD MOVE IT.

A LOT OF UNFORESEEN, JUST LIKE EVERY SINGLE RENOVATION THERE IS.

AND THAT THE HOUSE WE TORE DOWN WAS THE REASON, ANOTHER REASON IT COST WAY MORE TO RENOVATE THAN IT DOES TO BUILD NEW CONSTRUCTION.

UM, I, I AGREE THAT THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY FOR MOVING THE HOUSE.

WE THOUGHT IT WAS A GOOD THING CAUSE AND, AND EVERYBODY IN HERE WAS ON THE BOARD AND WE WERE VOTING ON IT AND YOU KNOW, YOU WERE HERE THEN.

WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE A GOOD WIN FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO TAKE A HOUSE THAT ALREADY EXISTED.

THE CITY GAVE IT TO US.

WE MOVED IT.

THAT COST MORE THAN WE THOUGHT.

WE HAD TO BUILD FOUNDATION UNDER IT TO, CAUSE IT TOOK SO LONG TO BID THE HOUSE.

CUZ WE HAD TO FOLLOW SO MANY RULES TO BID THE HOUSE.

WE HAD TO HIRE MASON TO BUILD THE FOUNDATION UNDERNEATH IT SO WE WOULD STOP GETTING BACK CHARGED FROM THE COMPANY THAT MOVED THE HOUSE.

EXTRA MONEY THERE.

SO I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT IS JUSTIFIED TO HAVE THAT MUCH MONEY GO INTO THE HOUSE.

THAT IS MONEY THAT WE'RE NOT SPENDING.

AND NOBODY ELSE HAS CLAIMED IT WHEN IT WAS OUT THERE TO BE CLAIMED TO BE SPENT.

AND YOU'RE PREACHING TO THE CHOIR WHEN YOU TELL ME ABOUT IT.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT DIFFERENT ALLOTMENTS THERE ARE.

I DO UNDERSTAND WHAT MONEY IS EARMARKED FOR WHAT AND WHAT IT HAS TO BE USED FOR.

AND IF IT'S NOT USED WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME THAT THAT MONEY GOES AWAY OR THAT THE CITY LOSES IT OR THAT WE'RE NO LONGER ELIGIBLE FOR THOSE FUNDS.

BUT IF ANYBODY, AND I'M GONNA GET OFF TRACK HERE FOR JUST A MINUTE, THEN I'M GONNA LEAVE IT ALONE.

IF ANYBODY, IF ANY OF THE, THOSE OF YOU THAT HAVE BEEN ELECTED, IF ANYBODY EVER WANTS TO HAVE, HAVE A GOOD SEMINAR, HAVE A SEMINAR FOR OUR CITIZENS TO ALLOW THEM TO KNOW WHAT MONIES ARE AVAILABLE AND WHAT THEY'RE EARMARKED FOR SO THAT WHEN THEY SEE EXORBITANT DIFFERENT AMOUNTS OF MONEY THAT ARE BEING LOST, BEING SPENT, OR WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BEING USED FOR, THAT THEY CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING.

BECAUSE THERE NEEDS TO BE A SEMINAR TO LET OUR CITIZENS KNOW OF WHAT'S WHAT AND WHAT REAL MONEY IS VERSUS WHAT GOVERNMENT MONEY IS VERSUS WHAT'S GIVEN, WHAT'S EARNED, WHAT'S USED AND WHAT'S LOST.

BECAUSE IN MY COMMUNITY THEY DON'T KNOW IF THEY DON'T GO AND SEEK IT OUT.

AND IF THEY'RE NOT TOLD, AND IF THEY DON'T GO DO THE HOMEWORK, THEN THEY DON'T KNOW.

AND ALL THEY SEE IS NUMBERS AND ALL THEY KNOW IS THAT I'M BROKE, I'M HUNGRY, I'VE GOT ALL OF THESE PEOPLE LIVING HERE AND THEY'RE SPENDING THIS KIND OF MONEY ON THIS KIND OF HOUSE RIGHT NEXT TO ME.

BUT YET STILL, THERE ARE NO OTHER HOUSES OVER HERE THAT ARE GOING FOR THIS AMOUNT.

CONSIDERING NOW THAT THAT, THAT THAT BOAT, THAT SHIP IS SALE.

AND, UM, BEFORE YOU GO OVER YOUR TIME, UM, WE ARE A GOVERNMENT ENTITY.

OKAY? UM, SO WHEN WE MADE CON WHEN WE ASK FOR CLARIFICATIONS AT THIS TABLE AND WE MAKE COMMENTS, IT IS TO THE SYSTEM.

IT IS NOT TO ANY INDIVIDUAL PERSON IN HERE.

NO.

WHEN, WHEN NONE OF US HAVE MADE AN INDIVIDUALIZED DECISION IN THIS MOVE PERIOD.

TRUE.

YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO WHEN WE ASK FOR CLARIFICATIONS AND WE, WE, WE, YOU KNOW, CONCERNS AND THIS AND THAT, JUST, I WANT EVERY, ALL MY COLLEAGUES KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SYSTEM.

WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT ANY INDIVIDUAL PERSON, ANY EVER.

WHEN WE, WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE ALL WORK ON, I KNOW Y'ALL WORK ON, I'VE BEEN IN ONE OF YOUR MEETINGS.

I KNOW YOU WORK ON.

ALRIGHT THEN I SIMPLY, WHEN I STARTED THIS GUY TRIED, I SIMPLY ASKED, DID WE HAVE OPTIONS? I KNOW THERE'S A TIME TABLE, BUT AS A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, WHEN YOU GET UP TO TWO QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS, I ASKED THAT TO SEE IF THAT MONEY COULD BE REPURPOSED FOR SOMETHING ELSE.

SO WE CAN GET BA MORE BANG FOR OUR BUCK IF THE GUY WOULD'VE CAME THROUGH OR IF HE WAS THERE, THE ONE THAT WAS INTERESTED IN IT, HE WAS GONNA TAKE THAT OFF OUR END AND WE COULD REALLOCATE THAT AND SO BE IT.

THAT'S MORE PURPOSE FOR THE MONEY.

WE'RE BEING GOOD STEWARDS OF THAT GRANT MONEY.

GOOD STEWARDS OF PUBLIC MONEY IS WHAT IS WHAT I WAS SAYING EARLIER.

BUT WHAT I'VE GOT, WE CAN'T DO THIS AND THAT.

THAT'S FINE.

IF YOU CAN'T DO IT, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I WOULD BE REMISS IF I SAT OVER HERE AND SIGNED US AND DIDN'T EVEN OFFER THAT OPTION.

CUZ THAT IS A LOT OF MONEY.

SO CAN I, CAN I ADD SOMETHING? I I I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU ALL ARE SAYING A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT, UH,

[01:20:01]

MEANING WE ARE AT A POINT NOW, EVEN IF SOMEONE BOUGHT THAT HOUSE FROM US TODAY AND WE COULD REALLOCATE THE MONEY, WE COULD NOT SPEND, WE, WE'D LOSE 117 OR WHATEVER.

WE, WE WOULD LOSE THAT MONEY NOW.

SO NOW WE'RE SORT OF LIKE AT A POINT NOW THAT THE DECISION WAS MADE AND A LOT OF THE COVID AND A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE MADE THESE, THIS HOUSE COSTS A LOT MORE THAN IT PROBABLY WORTH.

UM, BUT I THINK WE'RE, WE'RE AT A POINT NOW THAT WE WE MOVE FORWARD OR WE, WE LOSE SOME MONEY THAT WE DO HAVE.

I AGREE.

I, UH, I SEE WHERE MRS. ROYAL HAS LEFT.

MR. CREOLE, I'VE NEVER MET YOU.

I'VE BEEN TRYING TO MEET YOU.

I KNOW YOU ALWAYS BUSY.

YEAH, I KNOW HIM.

BUT I'M JUST ASKING IF YOU ARE VOTERS, IF YOUR AWARDS, IF YOUR, HOW DO YOU ANSWER THIS TO YOUR CON THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED YOU IN.

HOW DO YOU HAVE, I MEAN, HOW DO YOU ADDRESS THIS WHEN YOUR VOTERS COME TO YOU AND THEY HAVE OR OR THEY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN IT TO 'EM? DO YOU EXPLAIN GOVERNMENT? DO YOU EXPLAIN THE POWERS THAT BE? I MEAN, I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE IN YOUR SHOES.

I'M JUST CURIOUS, HOW DO THEY EXPLAIN THIS TO THEIR VOTERS, TO THE PEOPLE THAT, THAT ELECTED THEM? I'M JUST CURIOUS BECAUSE I'LL, I'LL USE WHATEVER TACTICS OR WHATEVER ANSWERS YOU ALL HAVE BECAUSE IT MAY HELP ME.

WELL, AGAIN, YOU CAN SPEAK TO, YOU CAN SPEAK TO THEM AND THEY CAN.

SO NOT RIGHT NOW.

YEAH, NOT RIGHT NOW.

NOT A PROBLEM.

WE NEED TO MOVE ON WITH MY, MY APOLOGIES.

YOU DO HAVE A GENTLEMAN THAT'S BEEN, I JUST WANT TO ADD ONE THING TO IT.

WE TALKING ABOUT CHAMPIONING THE COMMUNITY.

WE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS IN THAT COMMUNITY.

I'M FROM THAT COMMUNITY.

I WALK THE STREETS TO THAT COMMUNITY THAT YOU'RE SAYING IS YOUR COMMUNITY.

SO, YOU KNOW, MY PEOPLE, YOU BEEN HERE, I KNOW YOU MR. MORGAN.

UM, BUT HOW ARE WE, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE NOT CHAMPION PUTTING THAT MONEY THERE, BUT WHEN WE SAYING HOW DOES THAT ADD VALUE TO A COMMUNITY WHEN WE BUILD AND WE PUT THAT HOUSE TOGETHER NEXT DOOR, PROPERTY CAN GET YEAH.

PROPERTY BECAUSE THAT'S GOING TO ADD TO THE COMMUNITY.

SO LET'S NOT SAY THAT WE ARE ROBBING OUR COMMUNITY, GIVING THIS MONEY TO OUR COMMUNITY.

IF YOU GO IN THAT AREA, THAT'S GOING TO BE A SHINING LIGHT IN THAT COMMUNITY.

AND HOPEFULLY THAT CAN SPREAD IN THAT COMMUNITY.

THEY CAN BUILD AND EXPAND, BUT THAT'S GOING TO ADD VALUE.

SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING FOOD IN PEOPLE, HOUSES OR HOME, THAT'S THE BEST THING THAT YOU CAN HAVE IS SOMEBODY IN YOUR COMMUNITY THAT HAS A HOME LIKE THAT SO THAT YOU CAN SELL YOUR HOME IF YOU WANT TO SELL YOUR HOME AND BRING THAT VALUE.

SO I JUST DON'T GET WHY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE WE PUTTING IN THIS COMMUNITY AS FAR AS THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY.

YES, WE MADE SOME MISTAKES AS FAR AS MOVING A HOUSING AND ALL THAT, STUFF LIKE THAT.

BUT ANY MONEY PUT THERE IS GOING TO HELP.

ESPECIALLY PUTTING A HOME TOGETHER.

NOT ANYTHING.

JUST PUTTING A HOME TOGETHER THAT'S TOGETHER BY GOLD.

AND THEN YOU HAVE THIS SHINE ALIVE IN THE COMMUNITY SO THAT WE CAN HOPEFULLY EXPAND.

AS FAR AS THIS COMMITMENT, I'M HOPING IT'S TRYING TO DO, I APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU DO IN THE COMMUNITY.

YOU DO A LOT.

AND I DID HAVE AN APPRAISAL LAST WEEK ON WHAT MY HOUSES WORTH BECAUSE I'M SELLING IT.

UH, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR UH, FOR THEIR, FOR THEIR COMMENTS.

SO, UH, SO, UH, SO MUCH, UM, UH, THE HOUSING CONFERENCE IS COMING UP IN A FEW MONTHS AND ALL OF THOSE THAT ARE INTERESTED IN, IN HOUSING, IT WOULD BE GREAT IF EVERYBODY OUT, I'M GOING TO INVITE THE COMMISSION AND THE, UH, EVERYBODY TO COME.

I, I LOVE DISCUSSIONS ON HOUSING.

I LOVE IT.

WANNA ASK ONE QUESTION? YOU SEE RALEIGH, I DON'T WANT TO BEAT THAT HORSE.

YOU SEE RALEIGH, BUT I SAW THE ASIA ADVERTISED FOR THIS YEAR'S CDBG MM-HMM.

, HOW MANY PEOPLE APPLIED FOR THAT? UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW.

WHICH, WHICH FUNDING IS THAT? THE CDBG FOR THE HOUSING? YOU KNOW, YOU PUT OUT AN ADVERTISEMENT AND THERE WAS SENT OUT EVERYBODY COULD APPLY TO GET THEIR HOUSING FIXED.

ONE OR TWO.

YEAH, IT IS.

YOU HAVE AN EXCELLENT POINT, ROBBIE.

IT IS DAUNTING IF, DON'T EVER THINK THERE'S FREE MONEY CUZ IF THE GOVERNMENT'S GIVING IT TO YOU, YOU GOTTA EARN IT BY FILLING OUT ALL THE PAPERWORK.

OH YEAH.

SO IT IS DAUNTING FOR PEOPLE, I THINK, TO GO SOMEWHERE THEY'VE NEVER BEEN AND GET $10,000 TO IMPROVE THEIR HOUSE, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO START THE PROCESS.

THEY DON'T KNOW HOW TO FILL OUT THE PAPERWORK.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHO TO TALK TO IN THE CITY.

SO YOU HAVE AN EXCELLENT POINT.

ALDERMAN PRILL NEEDS TO BE IN TOUCH WITH HIS CONSTITUENTS, ALTMAN BRINSON, ALDERMAN ROYAL, AND LET THEM KNOW HOW THEY CAN GET THAT MONEY FOR THEIR CURRENT IMPROVEMENTS.

UH, I THINK WE STILL NEED TO, WE STILL NEED TO VOTE ON, UH, THAT ITEM BEFORE WE TURN OUR LAST ITEM FOR TONIGHT.

MS. LEE?

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MAY I ASK, UH, ONE QUESTION, ONE COMMENT? YES SIR.

FIRST OFF, I'LL THANK ROBBIE AND UH, FOR BRINGING THAT TOPIC UP AT, AT THE RISK OF HAVING SOMETHING THROWN AT ME, I BROUGHT UP THE SAME EXACT CONVERSATION AT OUR LAST HOUSING WORKING GROUP MEETING AND WORKED THROUGH AND GOT COMFORTABLE MYSELF FROM WHERE WE ARE.

THAT'S THE ONLY WAY TO GET THERE.

CAUSE IF WE WERE TO WALK AWAY FROM THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW AND TRY TO SELL IT, WE'D HAVE CBDG PROBLEMS FOR THE MONEY WE'VE ALREADY SPENT BEING SOLD.

WE'D HAD, WE'D HAVE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS CBD MONEY THAT WILL UNUSED AND WE'D HAVE A FORTUNE WORTH OF LOSS ON THE PROPERTY FROM WHAT WE'VE ALREADY GOT INTO.

SO I GOT COMFORTABLE.

THERE'S NOTHING ELSE.

NO, NO OTHER WAY TO GET FROM WHERE WE NEED TO GET TO, WHERE WE NEED TO FROM WHERE WE ARE.

SECONDLY, I WOULD BE REMISS, AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT MS PATRICIA ON THE SPOT TOO TERRIBLY MUCH.

I'VE SEEN DETAIL OF IT IN THE EMAIL, BUT I GOTTA HAVE SOME KIND OF IDEA OF HOW WE GET BACK TO THIS 55,000.

I KNOW THAT PART OF IT IS BLOOMFIELD AND PART OF IT IS EUBANKS AND PART OF IT IS PAYING FOR OUTSTANDING EXPENDITURES RIGHT NOW THAT ARE OUT THERE.

BUT I, I DON'T, DON'T SEE ANYTHING IN HERE DETAIL WISE.

, THAT GETS ME EMAIL.

I'VE SEEN IT IN THE EMAIL.

I'VE SEEN AN EMAIL FOR HOUSING WORKING GROUP, BUT I DON'T THINK, I DON'T KNOW IF I, IF I WERE BOARD MEMBER, I SIMPLE MAP, I DIDN'T, IF I WERE A BOARD MEMBER, SOMETHING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE TABLE THAT WASN'T PART OF THE HOUSING WORKING GROUP THAT GOT THAT EMAIL, I WOULDN'T BE COMFORTABLE VOTING FOR.

CAUSE I COULDN'T RECONCILE IT TO THE 55,000.

I, I'M HAPPY TO HEAR IT VERBALLY.

I DON'T KNOW.

I CAN'T SPEAK FROM MR. WALLACE AND MR. MORGAN IF THEY'RE HAPPY HEARING IT VERBALLY, BUT I I I I COULDN'T EVEN GET FAITH GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B WITHOUT KNOWING WHAT MAKES UP THAT 55,000.

SHE'LL SEND US, SHE'LL SEND US AN EMAIL LONG IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE OUTTA OF TIME.

SO IT LOOK, IT LOOKS LIKE, NO, WE DON'T HAVE TIME DO ANYTHING.

NO.

I ALMOST SELL ABOUT HARD $900 WAS FOR THE, UM, NO, NO, NO, NO.

I MEAN FOR THE WHOLE PROCESS WITH THE CBG FUNDS AND ALL THAT.

NOT HERE, BUT, SO I'M TWO DIFFERENT OUR GENERAL FUND.

YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S PART THIS CONVERSATION.

, GO AHEAD.

SO 9 0 5 WAS FOR THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION MM-HMM.

9 45 WAS FOR THE ASBESTOS TESTING.

15,520 WAS FOR THE ABATEMENT.

UM, WE HAVE A NEGATIVE IN OUR LAND AND DEVELOPMENT ACCOUNT AND I THINK IT IS 35,000 AND SOME CHANGE.

THERE IT IS.

THERE IT IS.

THE MONEY THAT WE'VE SPENT MM-HMM.

WE HAVE TWO LINE ITEMS. ONE IS ON OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND THE OTHER ONE IS ON LAND ACQUISITION.

AND THE LAND ACQUISITION IS IN THE NEGATIVE.

SO WE COULD PULL, IT HAS 19,000 IN IT.

WE COULD PULL FROM THAT, PUT IT IN THE LAND AND THEN AFTER MAKE THE PAYMENTS AND THAT'S WHERE THE $55,000 CAME UP.

SO MY RECOMMENDATION AT FIRST WAS FIVE 50,000 FINANCE IS GONNA COME IN HERE AND DO A TRAINING.

WE HAVE THREE DIFFERENT POTS OF MONEY, BUT THEY'RE GONNA COME IN AND DO A TRAINING AND BREAK IT ALL DOWN BECAUSE IT GOT A LITTLE BIT OF COMPLICATED FOR ME.

BUT, UM, THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE DID 55,000 BECAUSE THERE'S SOME OTHER EXPENDITURES THAT ARE TAXED MONTHLY.

AND THE PROCESS IS THAT, UH, THE COMMISSION HAS TO, TO, UH, TO VOTE ON IT FOR RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF ALLWAY FOR THEM TO MAKE THE, MAKE THE CHANGE.

SO WE GOTTA DO A RESOLUTION AT SOME POINT IN TIME.

WE'VE GOT TO GET BACK TO SOME EDUCATION AND EDUCATE OUR CITIZENS ON WHAT GOVERNMENT IS REALLY ABOUT AND WHAT GOVERNMENT IS DOING AND WHAT GOVERNMENT CALLS AND WHAT GOVERNMENT DOES.

AND I'M TALKING ABOUT ALL THE WAY FROM THE TOP TO, TO THE BOTTOM.

THERE'S NOTHING THAT IS GOING TO BE, I LEAVE ALONE.

ISN'T THAT NEW 1 0 1? THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

YEAH, THAT'S EXACTLY, WE ADVERTISE PAY EVERYBODY.

WE CAN'T JUST ADVERTISE.

WE IT HAVE TO BE SHOULDN HAVE TO BE I'M JUST SAYING THAT IT IS, IT IS OKAY.

AVAILABLE.

SO IT MAYBE IT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN SHARE.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M GONNA WORK ON AND MAKE MY GOAL.

I'M NOT GOING, I'M GONNA MAKE IT MY GOAL AND I HOPE I GET SOME HELP.

ALRIGHT, MOVING ON.

UH, AGENDA VOTE.

THE AUTHORIZATION OF SIGNING THE CONTRACT FOR NINE 11? OKAY.

DO WE HAVE A MOTION TONIGHT? I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION SUPPORTING A ER OF $55,000 ON FUND BALANCE TO LAND AND STRUCTURE.

YOU HAVE A SECOND, SECOND QUESTIONS DISCUSSION.

UM, REAL QUICK DISCUSSION.

WILL THAT ALL? IS THAT BOLD TO

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SO AS SOON AS THIS VOTE IS YES, AND WE CAN GET THAT CONTRACT TO MR. MON.

AFTER WE, IT HAS TO BE APPROVED BY OUR SAY THAT THE PROCESS IS THE BOARD OF ALL HAS TO APPROVE A PLEDGE COURT AUTHORIZE TRANSFER FROM FUND BALANCE TO THAT LINE.

AND THE NEXT QUARTERMAN MEETING IS JANUARY 13TH, IF I'M NOT, YEAH.

HMM.

SO WE CANNOT GET UNDER CONTRACT FOR THAT WORK UNTIL IN JANUARY.

THE EARLIEST OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THE BUDGET ORDINANCE AMENDED AMENDMENT ADOPTED WITH BE SIGNING THE CONTRACT TO HAVE TO WORK DONE.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DISCUSS.

I DON'T KNOW IF THERE ARE ANY SPECIAL CDBG FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS TO, MAY BE CONSIDERED THAT ANALYSIS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I CAN GET BACK TO YOU BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE, I MEAN, OUR BOARD, THE, THE COMMISSION HAD VOTED AND APPROVED THE CONTRACTOR AND THE BID PROCESS AND EVERYTHING.

AND THEN THE OVERAGE, WE APPROVED THE, UM, GOING BACK AND REDUCING, YOU KNOW, HAVING THE CONTRACTOR VALUE ENGINEER.

WE'VE DONE THAT.

I THINK THE VOTE TODAY IS ONE TO ONE, KNOW WHAT THE DELTA IS BETWEEN THE CDBG ALLOCATION AND WHAT THE BID FINAL BID WAS.

SO ONE, IT'S ON THE PUBLIC RECORD THAT THAT INFORMATION IS KNOWN.

AND THEN TWO, GETTING THE FINANCING IN PLACE, THERE'S SOME PURCHASING POLICY PROCEDURES THAT WE NEED TO CHECK BOXES ON SO I CAN GET BACK TO THE COMMISSION WITH AN ANSWER ABOUT WHAT WE CAN SIGN.

BECAUSE I BELIEVE THE DEFICIT IS $8,000.

THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN REPORTED TO US.

UH, COMMISSIONER NUGGET.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

COMMISSIONER WALLACE? YES.

[10. New Business/Adjourn]

ITEM OF THE, UH, NIGHT IS, UM, UH, NEW, UH, NEW BUSINESS.

AND AGAIN, UH, WANTED TO, UH, TALK TO US ABOUT THE, UH, STRATEGIC, UH, PLAN AND FINDING A DATE FOR THAT AGAIN.

UM, CURRENTLY WE HAVE PROPOSED, UH, JANUARY THE, UM, 20, UH, 25TH.

UM, WITH THAT, UH, DATE WORK FOR, UH, EVERYBODY, THE TIME, UM, THAT WILL, WILL WORK THE TENTATIVE TIME AT, AT THIS POINT IT WILL BE A THREE HOUR SESSION.

SO, UM, I THINK OUR LAST SESSION WAS FOUR TO SEVEN.

DOES THAT STILL WORK? UH, FOR EVERYONE? I'M SURE FOR ME PERSONALLY, BEING HERE BEFORE SIX O'CLOCK ON THE WEDNESDAY IS GONNA BE IMPOSSIBLE.

SO I DON'T, I DON'T WANT TO HOLD HOSTAGE TO THE SESSION WITH THE REST OF THE BOARD.

BUT, UM, THAT PARTICULAR DAY, THAT PARTICULAR TIME, I WOULD BE UNABLE TO ATTEND.

HOW WE GET EVERY TIME.

DID IT, IT WAS ON SATURDAY MORNING.

WHY DO WE KEEP GOING BACK TO THE WEEKDAY? BECAUSE PEOPLE COMPLAIN ABOUT WEEKENDS.

THEY WERE COMPLAINED ABOUT WEEKEND.

SO DO YOU WANNA DO A SATURDAY MORNING? BY ALL MEANS, I CAN'T EVEN BE HERE ON THE 25TH.

I'M IN GREENSBURG AND NOBODY, THAT'S WHEN WE THOUGH, NOBODY SHOWED UP IN THE LAST ONE CUZ IT WAS A WEEKDAY.

BEEN ON THIS THING FOUR YEARS, THREE YEARS RUNNING.

WE DIDN'T ON SATURDAY.

SOMETIMES TWICE A YEAR.

I'LL WALK THROUGH SATURDAY.

SOMETIMES I'LL WALK THROUGH.

IT'S ON SATURDAY WHEN WE WALK THROUGH ON THE, ON SATURDAY MORNING.

CAUSE BACK THISDAY STUFF.

SO DO YOU WANT TO DO SATURDAY? YES, I DO.

YOU, UH, I HATE TO TELL YOU, BUT YOU ONLY ONE COMMISSIONER.

GOT SOME STEPHANIE THE 28TH.

28TH OF FEBRUARY.

THE, WHAT'S THE NEXT SATURDAY? FEBRUARY THE FOURTH.

OKAY, SO THE 28TH.

UH, I KNOW I'M SUPPOSED TO BE SOMEWHERE ON THE 26TH, I THINK DOES THE WEEK BEFORE THAT THE 21ST WORK? OR IS THAT IS BEYOND THE 25TH? IT HAS DATE.

HE'S ONE OF THOSE, I'M JUST TRYING TO GIVE ANOTHER OPTION.

SO WELL, WE HAVE TO, WE NEED TO PUT IT OUT TO HER.

SO WHY DON'T WE SAY EIGHTH, 21ST 28TH, UM, ON FEBRUARY 4TH FROM EIGHT TO FROM

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EIGHT TO NOON.

EIGHT TO NOON? YEAH.

BUT WE GOTTA CHECK THOUGH.

SO TENTATIVELY, OH, WE GONNA GET A FOUR HOURS SINCE IT'S ON SATURDAY AND SUNDAY.

NOTICE YOU SWITCHED IT.

YES, I DID.

RECORD INCLUDED.

JANUARY 28TH OR FEBRUARY 4TH.

Y'ALL, Y'ALL COME ON NOW.

HELP ME NOW.

HELP, HELP.

WE GOTTA GET THIS DONE, BUT IF WE GET DONE EARLY, YOU'LL LET US GO.

CHAIRMAN, STOP.

YES, MA'AM.

JANUARY 21ST.

AND IF WE CAN, UM, DO, UM, SHAKE YOUR HAND, DO REPORT YOU'RE NOT YES.

LET'S DO A DUAL REPORT AND THEN, UM, WE, UM, AND THEN YOU CAN SEE FROM FIRST WE WILL CHECK WITH HER.

WE CHECK WITH HER AND THEN WE CAN GET IT OUT.

EVERYBODY NEED HERE AND HE CAN COME FOR EASTER HOUR OR TWO IF WE COULD.

SO, UM, WHEN IS THAT? SATURDAY OR FEBRUARY 4TH.

I'LL, ALL RIGHT.

21ST, 28TH, OR THE FOURTH.

PLEASE GO AHEAD AND TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR CALENDAR AND GET BACK WITH HER IMMEDIATELY SO THAT WE CAN GET, WE CAN GET THIS DONE.

SHE'S GONNA TALK TO MS. KITCHEN.

UM, AND UM, THEN WE WILL, WE WILL TAKE IT FROM, UH, FROM THERE.

WE GOT A LOT OF THINGS, UM, UM, THAT'S GOING TO BE GOING ON IN 2023.

A LOT OF PROJECTS THAT ARE GONNA BE SIMULTANEOUSLY.

SO WE GOT A LOT OF WORK THAT WE GOING TO BE DOING AND WE NEED TO GET THE STRATEGIC PLAN DONE TO MAKE SURE, UH, THAT OUR PRIORITIES ARE THERE AND TO MAKE SURE WE'RE HEADED IN THE, UM, IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

AND WE ARE, WE ARE ACTUALLY REALLY ALL MOVING TO, UH, THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT, UH, .

SO, UH, SHE WILL GET THAT, UM, TO US.

SO IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE FOR THE GOOD OF THE ORDER? ALL RIGHT.

CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? YES, SIR.

HAVE A GOOD NIGHT EVERYBODY.