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WELCOME EVERYONE TO OUR JANUARY 17TH, 2023, STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING.I HOPE EVERYBODY HAD WONDERFUL HOLIDAY AND HAPPY NEW YEAR.
UM, AT THIS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK, UM, MR. BERNARD WHITE, THE DUTY, THE PRAYER FOR US.
Y'ALL PLEASE STAND OUR FATHER, WHICH ARE HEAVEN.
FATHER, WE THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING WE HAVE RECEIVED, YOU HEAVEN.
FATHER, I ASK YOU TO WATCH OVER THE MEETING TONIGHT.
GOD, LET US BE DILIGENT IN WHAT WE DO TONIGHT.
YOU HEAVEN TO FOLLOW THAT THE ROAD WILL BE SMOOTH FOR US.
CONTINUE TO WATCH OVER KEEP THE BLOOD FLOORING OUR HEAVEN.
UM, IF Y'ALL WANT TO REMAIN STANDING, WE'RE GOING TO SAY TO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE AT THIS TIME, PLEDGE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO OF THE, OF THE UNITED STATES, STATES OF AMERICA AND NATION.
INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
GINGER, CAN YOU DO YOUR ROLL CALL PLEASE? LEAN MORGAN PRESENT.
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UM, JUST WANNA, UH, START OFF BY LOOKING AT THE MINUTES.I THINK, UH, GINGER SENT THESE OUT TO EVERYONE FOR REVIEW VIA EMAIL, AND YOU HAVE A COPY IN FRONT OF YOU.
UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY OBJECTION, UM, OR IF WE CAN APPROVE THE MINUTES, I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION AND ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE, UH, THE DESIGN ITSELF MM-HMM.
IT HAS NOT BEEN RELEASED YET UNTIL IT GOES OUT FOR BID.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF SOME OF MY QUESTIONS ARE GONNA BE ON NUMBER SIX, BUT I, I WAS GOING BACK AND JUST, UM, READING SOME DOCUMENTS THAT WE'VE HAD, UH, PUT OUT SINCE WE'VE BEEN MEETING.
AND I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED ON A COUPLE THINGS JUST BASED OFF OF THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD.
SO I DON'T, I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE.
WELL, YEAH, SO I, SO THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS I HAVE IN REGARDS TO WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THE DESIGN.
AND AGAIN, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES I THINK IS, I DUNNO IF THIS IS THE CONFERENCE.
THE MEETING SEEMED A LITTLE BIT TOO SCATTERED FOR ME.
AND IT, IT SEEMS TO BE SOME THINGS THAT ARE TAKING PLACE THAT WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY COMING BACK TOGETHER QUICK ENOUGH IN, IN REGARDS TO DISCUSS THAT, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
WE CAN, UH, TALK ABOUT THAT UNDER THE UPDATE ON DESIGN AND DEVELOP DEVELOPMENT IF YOU'D LIKE.
BUT YOU DO NOT WANT TO APPROVE THE MINUTES STATE? WELL, I, WELL, THIS IS, SOME OF THIS IS THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN, IN THE LAST MEETING, BUT AGAIN, SOME OF THESE THINGS, THIS, THIS WAS EMOTIONAL BEFORE, SO I'M SORRY.
WELL, I COULD HAVE SAID, I SHOULD HAVE SAID WASN'T NECESSARY CHANGES IN CASE WE WENT MAKE CHANGES IN THAT, IN THIS MEETING.
AND, AND IF I'M, LISTEN, IF I MAY CUT IN ON YOU, WHAT MR. CURTIS'S TALKING ABOUT IS THAT WE HAVE, I THINK WE MEET LIKE QUARTERLY.
I, I'VE NEVER BEEN FOR QUARTERLY MEETINGS.
WHEN WE MEET QUARTERLY, THAT MEAN WE MEET, WE MEET NOW, THEN ANOTHER MONTH GO BY, ANOTHER MONTH GO BY.
WE NEED TO BE, IF WE HAD TO MEET ONCE A MONTH, WE NEED TO BE ABREAST OF WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON.
WELL, MY PLAN GOING FORWARD WITH THE NEW YEAR IS TO HAPPEN ONE EVERY MONTH.
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WHAT I WAS PLANNING TO DO ONCE I BECAME DIRECTOR.YOU KNOW, I WAS ENTERING BEFORE, SO NOW I'M PLANNING TO HAVE ONE GOING FORWARD EVERY MONTH.
AND CARRIE, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'RE IN A, A TRANSITION PERIOD, ALTHOUGH YOU'VE BEEN DOING THE WORK AND, AND, AND THE ROLE, BUT WHEN YOU GO BACK THROUGH THE DOCUMENTS AND, AND I JUST KIND OF, BECAUSE OF THINGS ARE COMING TO MORE FRUITION HERE LATELY.
TIME IS MOVING, IT'S ABOUT TIME TO BREAK GROUND ON THIS PROJECT, ET CETERA, THE DOCUMENTS, AND THEN WHAT'S TAKING PLACE IS NOT NECESSARILY THE, UM, THE WAY THAT THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSED AND APPROVED, ET CETERA.
AND THEN WHEN I LOOK AT THESE MINUTES, IT'S SAYING THAT 80% OF IT, UH, THE DOCUMENT, 80% OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE DRAFTED.
BUT THEN WHEN WE GO BACK AND WE START LOOKING AT THE PUBLIC INPUT MEETING THAT WE'VE HAD, WE GO BACK AND START LOOKING AT DIFFERENT EMAILS THAT'S COME.
THE, THE AGREEMENT BETWEEN CP AND CP AND, UH, AND L CPL AND THE CITY, ET CETERA.
IT JUST KIND OF SEEMS LIKE EVEN WITH THE CHANGES OF CHANGES THAT'S THAT HAVE OCCURRED, THE DESIGN, IT SEEMS LIKE SOME THINGS ARE ALREADY THERE, BUT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE MAY NOT NECESSARILY HAVE THE INFORMATION, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS AND THEN I GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOMETHING FROM 2021 OR THE LAST PUBLIC MEETING, IT'S NOT MATCHING UP TO THE CON LAST CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD, IF THAT MAKES SENSE.
THE LAST MEETING WE HAD, SO WHEN YOU HAD THE PUBLIC INPUT, THOSE WERE CONCEPT PLANS.
THEY'RE THE, UM, ARCHITECTURAL PLANS.
AND SO THE, AND SO JUST, AND, AND I GUESS AGAIN, AND I DON'T WANT TO REWIND TOO MUCH, BUT AGAIN, SOME OF THIS IS A LITTLE BLUR CAUSE IT'S BEEN SO LONG SINCE WE'VE MET, AND THEN I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES.
SO ORIGINALLY THERE WAS, UM, UH, A ART, UH, A, UH, JUST JUST A, A DESIGN BID.
AND THEN THERE WAS AN ARCHITECTURAL BID THAT CHANGED.
COULD YOU, CAN YOU REFRESH US ON WHY THAT CHANGED WITHIN THE CITY? WHY THEY, WHY THEY WOUND UP SENDING OUT THE ARCH, THE WHOLE DESIGN WITH PLAN SET FOR FIRST ARCHITECTURAL PLAN, WHICH ESSENTIALLY BROKE THAT UP FROM A CONTRACTOR BEING ABLE TO DESIGN AND BUILDING TO WHERE YOU GET WHERE YOU WENT TO JUST CP AND L DESIGNING IT.
BUT THEY HAD ALREADY PRETTY MUCH DESIGNED IT PRIOR TO.
BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN IT TO THE COMMITTEE SO PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT TOOK PLACE THERE? JUST SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE.
SO I NE I WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE ASKING ME.
SO INITIALLY IT WAS, UH, DESIGN BID, IT BUILD.
AND THEN IT JUST WENT TO DESIGN BID, CORRECT.
SO IT BROKE, SO IT BROKE UP WHERE CPN CPL WAS, NOW THE ARCHITECT AND YOU GUYS ARE GONNA PUT IT OUT FOR, UH, BID A BID FOR THE CONTRACTOR THAT YOU BUILDING.
BUT I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS BASED ON THE, IT'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS I'M ASKING IN REGARDS TO THAT.
ONE IS BASED ON THE PUBLIC INPUT, THE MEETINGS THAT WE HAD WHERE FOLKS TOOK THESE SQUARE FOOTAGE AND THEY PUT IT ON THE BOARD AND DESIGNED THE ROOMS, THEN WE CAME BACK.
THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE DIFFERENT PHASES TO THAT.
UH, THERE ISN'T A DESIGN THAT I HAVE THAT WE ALL, WE ALL PRIVY, WE ALL PRIVY TO MM-HMM.
SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND NOW IS IT SEEMS AS THOUGH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE THAT IS ALREADY DONE, BUT THEN I'M READING HERE, PER OUR LAST MEETING, IT'S 80% OF THE CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTARIES ARE BEING DEVELOPED, ET CETERA.
BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THOSE DECISIONS HAD ALREADY BEEN MADE THROUGH PRIOR.
THE DESIGN OF THAT BUILDING HAS ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED, IS WHAT I'M GETTING TO YOU.
AND WHEN WE SAY DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS, THAT INCLUDES PERMITS, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT JUST THE DESIGN OF THE BUILDING.
SO AT THIS POINT, AND, AND, AND SO, AND THAT'S WHY I'M SAYING IT'S HARD FOR ME TO UNDERSTAND THESE MINUTES AND WHY WE DID THIS LAST TIME.
AND AGAIN, IT'S BEEN SOME TIME AGO SINCE WE MET BACK IN OCTOBER.
UM, IT'S NOT MAKING SENSE TO ME WHEN I GO PULL ALL THE DOCUMENTS FROM 2020 APRIL 15TH WHEN WE STARTED THESE DIFFERENT, ALL THE INFORMATION LEADING UP TO HERE WHILE WE'RE AT.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION, UH, CURTIS, AND THIS MAY SHE A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT ON IT.
THE DESIGN PLANS THAT WERE SUBMITTED, WERE THEY ONE OF THE DESIGNS THAT CP AND L HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD AT ONE OF THEIR OTHER SITES? IS THAT WHAT, WHAT WAS SENT IN AND AND ADOPTED FOR THE STANLEY WHITE SITE? NO, THE ONE THEY HAD DONE FOR US IS THE ONE THAT WAS SUBMITTED.
SO THIS IS NOT ANYTHING BECAUSE THEY SUBMITTED I THINK SEVEN TO NINE DIFFERENT, UM, DESIGNS THAT THEY HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN A PART OF PROJECTS.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE HISTORY WALL OR THE ACTUAL BUILDING? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL BUILDING.
THEY SUBMITTED SEVEN TO NINE DIFFERENT DESIGNS THAT THEY HAD
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HAD AS PROJECTS SEVEN, 10 DIFFERENT DESIGNS ON THE DOCUMENT SAYING, HEY, HERE ARE CONCEPTS.BUT YOU GUYS CAN POTENTIALLY, SO WE NEVER DID SUB SUBMIT OR WE NEVER DID.
ONE OF THOSE SEVEN TO 10 DESIGNS IS NOT WHAT WAS SENT IN FOR THE PROPERTY THAT STANLEY WHITE'S GONNA BE SITTING ON.
I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT CAUSE I WASN'T INVOLVED IN THAT MEETING, BUT I KNOW THE DESIGN IS THE ONE THEY BROUGHT BEFORE THE BOARD AND WAS APPROVED ON TO SUBMIT FOR.
AND I THINK WE HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT DESIGN BECAUSE I, I REMEMBER THE, THE DOOR, THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE DOOR BEING ON THE STREET OF THIRD AVENUE AND NOT NECESSARILY ON, ON COMING DOWN, UH, BROAD STREET.
SIR, DO YOU HAVE A PICTURE OF THAT? THAT, THAT ACTUAL BUILDING, THIS IS THE MOST RECENT.
I SAID THAT, UM, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE.
LET ME, LET ME THROW SOMETHING IN HERE.
SO WHEN WE FIRST, GOING BACK TO WHAT CURTIS IS SAYING, EVERY, EVERYTHING LED UP TO A CONCEPT THAT WE DID WHEN WE, WE WERE OVER AT WEST NEWBURN AND WE HAD THE LITTLE SQUARES WE PUT 'EM IN AND THE INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY.
ALL THAT WAS ABOUT A CONCEPT OF WHAT WE WANTED STANLEY WHITE TO LOOK LIKE.
SO THAT CONCEPT PLAN WAS BROUGHT TO US AS A BOARD AND THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO BE BIDED OUT TO SEE IF IT COULD BE DONE.
SO WHEN YOU SAID WE WENT FROM, WHAT WAS IT, YOU MENTIONED IT BECAUSE WE CHANGED IT.
IT, NO ONE MET THE PLAN THAT THEY COULD DO.
NO ONE COULD DO WHAT WAS ASKED TO BE DONE.
SO IT CAME BACK TO WHERE NOW CP AND L IS DESIGNING THE BUILDING FOR A CONTRACTOR TO BID ON THE DESIGN.
BEFORE IT WAS DESIGN, BUILD, BID, BUILD, DESIGN, BID, BUILD.
WELL, I THINK WHAT I RECALL, WE COULDN'T DO IT THAT WAY BECAUSE OF STATUTES STATUTE.
SO, SO, SO WHAT, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR ON MY QUESTION AND WHERE WE'RE, WHERE WE'RE AT NOW, WE CAN'T NECESSARILY CHANGE CERTAIN THINGS AT THIS POINT.
BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS LITERATURE AND YOU LOOK, LOOK AT WHAT'S BEING PUT OUT TO THE PUBLIC, IT SAYS, WE HAVE A DOCUMENT HERE THAT SAYS DECISIONS, DECISIONS WILL BE MADE, UH, BY THIS, UH, UM, COMMITTEE AND THE BOARD OF ALL.
AND SO I'M SAYING THAT TO SAY THAT, AND I'LL SHOW IT TO YOU IF YOU LIKE, AND, AND YOU CAN HAVE, AND I'M SURE YOU HAVE IT.
I GUESS MY POINT IS, MOVING FORWARD THERE HAS TO BE A LITTLE BIT MORE CONVERSATION BECAUSE YOU ALREADY HAVE A STRUCTURE OF WHAT, AND IT'S CHANGED FROM WHAT WE, WE HAD ORIGINALLY.
BUT I DON'T THINK ANYBODY HERE HAS IT.
HOW HAS IT CHANGED YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS DESIGN? YEAH.
AND SO I'M JUST SAYING BECAUSE THE, THE COMMITTEE WAS PUT TOGETHER FOR US TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT COMPLETE PROCESS.
YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVEN'T BEEN INVOLVED IN THAT COMPLETE PROCESS BECAUSE, UH, THE, THE, THE STRUCTURE THAT YOU HAVE ON THAT OTHER PAGE THERE VERSUS STRUCTURE THERE, THAT'S TOTAL, THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT STRUCTURES THAT WE, THE CONCEPTS THAT WE HAD.
SO THAT'S THE CONCEPT THAT I'VE SEEN AND THAT EVERYBODY'S SEEN MM-HMM.
WHAT I'M SAYING IS THESE ARE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN AND NOT, I'M, I'M NOT A GUY WHETHER YOU GUYS ARE GONNA DO WHAT YOU WANNA DO OR NOT.
WE SHOULD STILL BE AT THE CONVERSATION.
CAUSE THROUGH THIS PROCESS, YOU GOT, UM, INFORMATION WHERE PEOPLE HAVE SAID, THESE ARE THE ROOMS WE WANT IN THIS BUILDING.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO HAVE GOING ON.
CAUSE AGAIN, I'M IMAGINING THE VISION PROCESSES ABOUT TO TAKE PLACE OR HAS ALREADY STARTED.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA BE, UH, A VOICE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING US IN THAT POSITION, AND WE NEED TO BE THAT MOVING FORWARD.
CAUSE IF THINGS DON'T TAKE PLACE THE WAY THAT PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING IT BASED OFF OF HOW THEY, THE INPUT THAT THEY'VE GIVEN YOU, AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW THAT LOOKS, I DON'T THINK THAT'S GONNA BE FAIR.
I'M NOT EVEN JUST TALKING ABOUT, I'M NOT NECESSARILY TALKING ABOUT FROM A, A STRUCTURAL STANDPOINT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT FROM A PROGRAM STANDPOINT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT AN INTERIOR STANDPOINT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT A DESIGN STANDPOINT.
UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY I'M TALKING ABOUT A PROGRAM STANDPOINT.
BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE HERE, THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING THAT THIS WAS PUT TOGETHER FOR IT.
AND I DON'T THINK WE CAN EFFECTIVELY DO THAT BY MEETING ONCE A QUARTER, FORGETTING ALL THIS STUFF THAT'S TAKING PLACE.
AND THEN THERE'S BEEN A LOT, YOU'RE COMING IN OFFICIALLY NOW AND, UH, AS, AS, AS AS A TITLE HOLDER FOR PARKS AND REC, ET CETERA.
UM, AND I KNOW SOME OF THESE THINGS AREN'T THINGS YOU'RE ABLE TO CHANGE, BUT I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR ON MY STANCE BECAUSE WHEN I LOOK AT THIS INFORMATION HERE, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE ON THE COMMITTEE HAS KEPT TRACK OF THE DOCUMENTS
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THAT YOU GUYS HAVE GIVEN US, THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD SINCE 2020.UM, BUT A LOT OF US, NOT NECESSARILY CONSISTENT THINGS ARE CHANGING, BUT WE NEED TO BE INVOLVED IN THOSE CHANGES.
RECENT, THE TAPE FOR THE CONVERSATION.
UM, WELL, AND LIKE, THE MOST I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IS LIKE WITH THE OUTSIDE DESIGN.
LIKE I HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE INSIDE AND THE LAYOUT AND EVERYTHING, BUT NOTHING HAS CHANGED FROM THE ORIGINAL DESIGN OTHER THAN LIKE COLORS.
SO WHAT'S THE SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDING? IT'S 30, ABOUT 36,000.
BUT I THINK THE ORIGINAL WAS 26, RIGHT? I'M NOT, IT'S 37,000 THE ORIGINAL.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DOUBLE WHAT WE ALREADY HAD, WHICH WAS, WHICH WAS 18,000 AT STANLEY WHITE.
SO IT WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE BEEN DOUBLED AS SO, SO 36,000, 36,000 SQUARE FEET WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN UPSTAIRS AND DOWNSTAIRS.
TWO GYMS A WALKING TRACK UPSTAIRS PLUS.
AND, AND THAT'S MY NEXT QUESTION.
CAN, WOULD YOU MIND, AND THIS, IF THIS IS OUTTA ORDER, I DEFINITELY WOULD TAKE YOUR ADVICE TO MOVE ON AND MAYBE GONNA COVER IT IN THE UPDATES DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT.
BUT CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY ROOMS, WHAT THE LAYOUT OF THAT BUILDING IS? I CAN TELL YOU WHAT I HAVE HERE.
OKAY, SO WE HAVE 17 ROOMS LISTED HERE.
ONE GYM, A
A KITCHEN, LAUNDRY, LOCKER ROOMS, MULTIPURPOSE ROOM, OFFICE RECEPTION, RESTROOMS AND STORAGE.
THAT'S WHAT WAS IN THE, THE PREVIOUS BUILDING.
SO, SO, SO FOR, FOR THE PURPOSES OF TIME, ARE WE NOT PRIVY TO THAT DOCUMENT? YEAH.
CAN SOMEONE SEND THAT TO, TO THE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THIS, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE? MM-HMM.
I THOUGHT WE HAD SEEN IT, BUT I'LL MAKE SURE IT GETS SENT AGAIN.
I WOULD THINK THAT IF THAT IS THE LATEST DOCUMENT THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING OFF OF, THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT NOW.
UH, I WOULD THINK THAT BASED ON HOW THIS UNION, THIS, THIS, THIS COMMITTEE'S FORM THAT WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THAT INFORMATION.
BUT, AND THAT THAT'LL ANSWER THE QUESTION.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO OVER WHAT THOSE 17 ROOMS ARE, BUT TO WHAT MR. UM, UH, WOOD WOODS, WOODS WAS SAYING, UH, IS IT STILL THE TWO GYMS? IS IT IT STILL, WHAT THAT CONCEPT WAS THAT WE THE LAST, BASED ON THAT PRIOR STRUCTURE, IS THAT KIND OF STILL THE LAYOUT? BECAUSE IT WAS MM-HMM.
IT'S, UH, TWO GYMS WITH AN ELEVATED WALKING TRACK MM-HMM.
AND BECAUSE THIS, UM, THE STANLEY Y IS UNDER PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED A GRANT WE'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN AND PROVIDE THE SAME AMOUNT OF ROOMS AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY USED MM-HMM.
UM, AND THEN THE, THE NEXT QUESTION I HAVE IS, IS THE, BUT IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME SIZE.
I MEAN, IT IS LARGER, PROBABLY LARGER TO THE OLD CENTER.
SO I GUESS A LOT OF THOSE, UH, ROOMS WHEN THE OLD CENTER, THESE ARE A LOT OF THEM ARE SMALL.
IT HAS TO BE AT, YOU KNOW, AT LEAST WHAT IT WAS OR MORE.
AND IT DEFINITELY OBVIOUS IS GONNA BE MORE, IT'S 36,000 SQUARE VERSE 18.
BUT I GUESS, SO HAVE YOU GUYS ALREADY SENT IT OUT THE CONTRACT TO BILL FOR BUILDING? NO, IT HAS NOT.
WE'RE WAITING TO GET TO, THERE'S A FEW PERMITS THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM ARE WAITING ON 'EM MM-HMM.
BUT WE'RE VERY CLOSE TO GOING OUT OF BED, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT UNTIL WE GET INTO REMAINING PERMITS, WHICH ARE GOTTEN FROM OUTSIDE ORGANIZATIONS.
THE CITY HAS ALREADY PROVIDED THE PERMITS FOR THE CITY, BUT THERE'S OTHER PERMITS OUTSIDE OF THAT, LIKE STORM WATER, THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT THE CITY DOES NOT DO.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE WAITING ON ARE THOSE LAST PERMITS.
SO, SO WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW, THAT'S THE 80, THAT'S 80%? OR IS THAT IT'S MORE YEAH.
THAT LIKE THE LAST LITTLE BIT BEFORE WE CAN SEND IT OUT OR THOSE PERMITS THAT WE'RE WAITING ON.
SO IS THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED A 20% IN THE MINUTES THAT WE'RE WAITING ON? YEAH.
AND AT THIS POINT IT MAY NOT EVEN BE 20%.
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20 YOU'RE SAYING THIS WAS WHEN WE HAD THE, THAT MEETING, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT THIS WOULD BE COMPLETED AT THIS POINT.OTHER THAN THE LAST PERMIT WE'RE WAITING FOR.
UM, THE 80%, WELL YOU GONNA SEND US SOME PAPERWORK ON IT, ON THIS? CAUSE I'D LIKE TO KNOW WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS IN THE 80% THAT, UH, ARE FINALIZED.
AND THE 20% IS SOME OF THE STUFF THAT GOTTA BE DONE.
THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING DONE IN THERE, BUT UH, I LIKE WHAT'S GONNA BE ADDED TO THAT TOO.
I KNOW THAT EVERYTHING THAT COULD BE DONE ON THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRMS INN HAS BEEN COMPLETED.
THEY'RE JUST, JUST WAITING ON FINAL PERMITS.
I GUESS MY QUESTION IS PROBABLY OFF OF WHAT MR. WOODS WAS TALKING ABOUT, BUT WE DIDN'T EVER FINISH THE CONVERSATION ON THE WHAT, UH, SIDE IS THE FACE OF THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE ON.
BECAUSE I THINK WE VOTED, UH, AGREED THAT WE DIDN'T WANT IT ON BROAD STREET SIDE.
WE WANTED TO BE ON THIRD AVENUE, THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
THAT WAS THE PLAN AND ALL PUN WAS ON.
BUT HE WAS JUST SAYING THEY CHANGED THE ENTRANCE.
NO, WE WERE SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT WAS ON THE, THE PLAN THERE.
THE ENTRANCE WAS ALWAYS TO BE ON THIRD AVENUE.
I THINK THE DESIRE WAS TO HAVE IT ON THIRD AVENUE.
CLEAR THAT THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS ON THIRD AVENUE.
WE DID, WE DIDN'T, THEY DEFINITELY DID NOT WANT IT ON BROAD STREET.
READ THIRD AVENUE FROM THE GETGO.
UM, YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO MAKE COMMENT.
YOU CAN ASK ONE OF US TO ASK A QUESTION FOR YOU IF YOU GOT, IF YOU WANT TO REALLY GO WITH YOUR MOTION.
I JUST SAID SOME OF IT I, I, I VOICE MY OPINION.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF YOU GUYS CAN, UH, WANT PROVE YOUR MINUTES.
SAY THAT AGAIN, CURTIS AT END.
NO, I WAS SAYING THAT WAS MY QUESTION IN REGARDS.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD.
THERE WAS A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
THERE WAS A MOTION BY MR. WHITE.
IF YOU GOT ANY CHANGES IN THERE, IT SHOULD BE IN THERE.
AND IF YOU STILL HAVE WHAT WE HAVE, BUT IF WE NOT RECORD FORM, WE WHAT WE HAVE, THEN I I DON'T MIND RESENDING IT.
SO SOME OF THIS IS ACTIVE FOR WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT ON THE LAST MEETING.
IT JUST DIDN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME BASED ON GOING BACK AND DOING SOME HOMEWORK SINCE THAT LAST MEETING.
UH, WHY WE WERE STILL AT THIS PLACE BASED ON PREVIOUS INFORMATION.
AND I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS THE TIME FOR THIS, BUT I WOULD JUST RECOMMEND THAT, AND I, AND I, I HEARD YOU SAY THIS IF YOU WERE IN, IN THE PROCESSES, I JUST THINK THAT WE NEED TO MEET A LITTLE BIT MORE REGULARLY AND, AND, AND BE A LITTLE BIT MORE, UH, A PART OF THE PROCESS OF WHAT'S TAKING PLACE FORWARD.
SO THAT'S, I GUESS THAT'S A SOLUTION FOR YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
UM, AND WE CAN ALWAYS, IF Y'ALL WANNA TABLE THESE MINUTES UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING, WE CAN DO THAT.
I LIKE THE TABLE IT AND IF YOU HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS TO MAKE 'EM THE CHANGES, YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SEND THOSE VIA EMAIL TO US AND WE CAN UPDATE THE MINUTES AND SEND THEM BACK OUT.
I, I ACCEPT ON THAT TABLE IF YOU WANT TO TABLE, WE JUST NEED TO GET IT ALL ODYSSEY.
I READ TO ME READ THE MINUTES, BUT I DIDN'T SEE IT LIKE MR. CURTIS DID.
I DIDN'T, STUFF I HADN'T SEEN OR STUFF I HAD GOTTEN.
SO I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING NOW.
YOU DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN.
WE'LL TABLE THE MINUTES UNTIL, UH, THE NEXT MEETING FOR APPROVAL, BUT WE'LL BE SENDING OUT A UPDATED VERSION ONCE WE'RE PROVIDED WITH ANY UPDATES.
WE WOULDN'T LIKE TO GET LEFT TOO FAR BEHIND.
WE, WE SHOULD BE MADE LIKELY WE DON'T WANNA BE LEFT.
SO, UH, TOO FAR BEHIND, LIKE, LIKE NOW SOME OF US DON'T REALLY UNDERSTAND ALL THAT AND WE HAVE MISSED CUR, HE KEPT CORRECT RECORDS OF ALL OF THAT.
MY, MY RECORDS ON ANOTHER BOOK.
OH, WE CAN DEFINITELY, IF YOU WANT ME TO BRING MORE IN DEPTH INFORMATION ON THE DESIGN PLANS AND STUFF NEXT TIME MORE THAN WHAT I HAVE, I'LL BE GLAD TO PROVIDE WHAT I HAVE.
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OKAY.SO, UM, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE UPDATE ON DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AS I SAID A COUPLE TIMES, WE'RE WAITING ON A FEW MORE PERMITS THAT THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM HAS GOT TO GET BEFORE THEY CAN SEND IT OUT TO BID.
UM, I TALKED TO OUR FINANCE PERSON TODAY WHO HANDLES
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BIDS AND SHE TOLD ME SHE TALKED TO THEM LAST WEEK AND THEY SAID THAT THEY'RE WAITING ON THOSE LAST PERMITS BEFORE WE CAN GO OUT TO BID.SO HOPEFULLY WE'LL HEAR SOMETHING FROM THEM THIS WEEK.
UM, IT'S THE SAME DESIGN PLAN THAT WE, THE BOARD GAVE DIRECTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH.
UM, IT'S JUST ONCE WE GET TO SEE THE NEXT PLANS, THEY'LL ACTUALLY HAVE EVERY SINGLE DOOR AND ELECTRICAL OUTLET AND RESTROOM.
EVERYTHING VERY DETAILED, UH, WILL BE LAID OUT ON THOSE.
SO I WOULD JUST, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF YOU COULD SEND OUT, AS I MENTIONED, THE DOCUMENT THAT YOU HAVE AND, AND, AND THE DESIGN THAT THEY'RE, THE DESIGN THAT THEY'VE CURRENTLY PROVIDED.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT? SO ONCE THE REG, THE REST OF THE PERMITS COME IN, AND I'M ASSUMING THOSE ARE LIKE THE CAMERA PERMANENT AND, WELL, NOT CAMA, BUT, UM, THERE'S SOME, UM, STORM WATER PERMITS.
THEY HAVE TO GET NUMEROUS BUILDING PERMITS.
THERE'S A VARIETY OF PERMITS THAT HAVE TO BE OBTAINED FROM DIFFERENT, UM, GROUPS.
THE, THE, THE DESIGNER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR GETTING, FOR GETTING THOSE.
BUT WHO PER WHO DOES THOSE PERMITS COME FROM? DO THEY COME FROM THE CITY, THE STATE OR THEY, THERE ARE SOME FROM THE CITY.
THERE ARE SOME FROM THE STATE.
IT'S A VARIETY FROM DIFFERENT, UM, STATE ORGANIZATIONS.
THEN ONCE THAT'S DONE, ALL THAT'S PUT IN A PACKAGE AND GOES OUT TO A, A CONTRACT BID.
NOW ONCE WE START BI, ONCE THE CITY START BIDDING OUT THE CONTRACT, UM, HOW WOULD MINORITY BUSINESSES BID ON CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CONTRACT? SAY IF I'M AN ELECTRICIAN AND I WANT TO DO THE ELECTRICAL WORK OR PUT A BID IN THERE TO DO THE ELECTRICAL WORK, WHEN THEY SEND OUT THE, UH, BID, IT'LL BE ON THE CITY WEBSITE.
AND IN THAT WHOLE PACKET, IT'S A LARGE PACKET AND IT GIVES INSTRUCTIONS AND INFORMATION ON HOW TO SUBMIT YOUR, UH, PROPOSALS FOR THE BID.
UM, IT ALSO IN THAT DOCUMENT WILL MAKE SURE IT GOES TO MINORITY GROUPS IN ANY TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION SO THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE, UM, BID, PROPOSED THE BID.
BUT THAT, BUT, BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR ON YOUR QUESTION, THAT IS GONNA GO TO A GC.
IT'S NOT GONNA GO A PERSON THAT JUST HAS AN ELECTRICAL, UH, LICENSED ELECTRICIAN IS PROBABLY NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO DO THAT.
THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE CONNECTED TO A GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
THEY'RE NOT GONNA, THEY'RE SO, I MEAN THIS IS A WHOLE DIFFERENT YEAH.
THEY'RE NOT MINORITIES ARE GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO, TO, TO, TO, TO BID ON IT.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE A MINORITY GENERAL CONTRACTOR.
IT'S NOT GONNA BE A MINORITY LICENSED PLUMBER OR A MAJORITY MINORITY ELECTRICIAN.
SHE, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THAT'S JUST ME AND THAT'S JUST, YEAH, THAT WAS UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
I THOUGHT MY UNDERSTANDING OF IT.
SO GC, I'M THE GC AND SO, SO MUCH OF THE BUSINESS HAD TO BE GIVEN, HAD TO BE BIDDING ON OR PER OR GIVEN TO MINORITY BUSINESSES.
I THOUGHT THE WAY WHEN WE STARTED IS THE PROCESS.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS THAT WE ASKED, ASKED ABOUT.
I UNDERSTAND THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR, I GET THAT PART, BUT I THOUGHT THE GC WOULD BID IT OUT TO MR. PENDER WHO IS A LICENSED PLUMBER OR LICENSED UM, ELECTRICIAN OR DUMP TRUCK GUY OR WHATEVER.
BUT IF I HAVE MY OWN AS A GENERAL CONTRACTOR, THEN I DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT, THAT WORK OUT.
THAT ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'RE ASKING NOW, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO STAN WHITE.
WE MADE THE SAME CALL TO GET MINORITIES IN AND ALL THAT.
THEY PROMISED THAT THEY WERE GOING TO USE MINORITY CONTRACTORS, BUT THEY DIDN'T.
THEY BROUGHT THEIR OWN PEOPLE IN AND THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO STAN WHITE MO MOSTLY GENERAL CONTRACTORS, WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL, THEY ALREADY HAVE GUYS THAT THEY WORK WITH AND THAT'S WHO THEY GONNA BRING IN POINT BLANK.
UM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, BUT THE, THE, I GUESS
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WHEN YOU GUYS PUT IT OUT FOR BID, UM, ARE WE ABLE TO MEET THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR? I BELIEVE SO, BUT LET ME GET CLARIFICATION FROM THE LADY WHO HANDLES THE BIDS FOR THE CITY.UM, AND I CAN SEND Y'ALL SOME UPDATED INFORMATION AND IF WE WANT HER TO COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING AND GIVE US SYNOPSIS OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, WHICH BY THEN IT'LL PROBABLY ALREADY BE GONE OUT TO BID.
UM, BUT I CAN SEND Y'ALL THE PROCESS OF HOW IT WORKS BY CITY POLICY.
CAN THE GENERAL CONTRACTOR BE REQUIRED TO, UH, YOU KNOW, BID SOME OF THAT OUT TO MINORITIES OR WHAT CAN THEY BE REQUIRED TO DO THAT? ACCEPT THE BID OR WHATEVER? WELL, WHATEVER IS IN THE CONTRACT THAT HE SIGNS, WHOEVER GETS THE BID IS AWARDED THE BID WOULD BE WHAT HE HAS TO FOLLOW, I WOULD ASSUME.
BUT I'M SAYING COULD THAT BE INCLUDED IN THAT? THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO ASK.
THE I, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT THAT WAS PART OF FEDERAL GOVERNMENT REQUIREMENT REQUIREMENT FEDERAL.
BUT WE DO USE FEDERAL DOLLARS TO BUILD A BUILDING.
I I I FEEL LIKE ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT WAS FEDERAL.
BUT I, CUZ ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE ALWAYS TALKED ABOUT WAS HAVING MINORITY BUSINESSES HAVING A HAND IN BUILDING THIS BUILDING.
THAT HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR NUMBER ONE PRIORITIES OF THIS BOARD.
WELL LET ME GET CONFIRMATION ON HOW THAT PROCESS WILL WORK WHEN IT GOES OUT FOR BID AND I WILL FOLLOW UP WITH YOU GUYS.
BECAUSE IF WE HIRE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR THAT'S GONNA BRING IN HIS OWN PEOPLE, THEN YOU KNOW, WE BACK WHERE, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING OF FEDERAL DOLLARS WAS A PORTION, AT LEAST 25% OF THAT CONTRACT HAS TO BE MINORITY BUSINESSES.
I THINK THAT WAS ONE OF MY REQUESTS WHEN WE STARTED OFF THAT.
I SAID, OH GOD, THAT WAS, YEAH.
STATUS HAS BEEN ONE OF OUR BIGGEST REQUESTS ON THIS BOARD.
I I, I REMEMBER THAT CAUSE I GOT A BUDDY THAT'S GOT ELECTRICAL BUSINESS AND I'VE BEEN ON HIM ABOUT MAKING SURE HE KEEPS HIS STUFF UP TO DATE SO HE CAN PLAY AT LEAST PLACE A BID.
WE NEED TO GET CLARIFICATION ON HOW IT WORKS AFTER IT'S AWARDED TO A GENERAL CONTRACT.
WHAT'S NEXT? OKAY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHAT'S THE, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH HENDERSON PARK? WE ARE WAITING UNTIL WE, UM, HAVE TIME TO MOVE TO THAT PROJECT.
WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO ONCE WE FINISHED THAT, WE'LL BE MOVING TOWARDS THESE NEXT PROJECTS.
HENDERSON PARK BEING ONE OF THEM.
WELL, LET ME ASK THE BOARD THIS CAUSE MY, MAYBE I MISUNDERSTOOD THE BASKETBALL COURT THAT WAS GONNA BE AT HENDERSON PARK WAS, DID ANYBODY ELSE GET THE IDEA THAT IT WAS GONNA BE ONE BIG COURT WITH TWO SMART COURTS SIDE BY SIDE? OR WAS IT GONNA BE ONE BIG COURT GOING THIS WAY? YOU KNOW, LIKE A REGULAR BASKETBALL? DID ANYBODY ELSE, HOW, HOW DID FOOTPRINT ON THE OLD BUILDING? I KNOW THAT'S WHAT THEY DID, BUT WHAT DID WE TALK ABOUT? DID WE TALK ABOUT HAVING IT LIKE THIS WITH TWO BASKETBALL COURTS GOING LIKE THIS? OR DID WE TALK ABOUT USING THE SAME FOOTPRINT THAT WAS ALREADY THERE? WELL, AS I REMEMBER, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT USING THE FRONT SAME FOOTPRINT WITH LIGHTS AND MAYBE PUTTING SOME MORE STUFF ON THE OUTSIDE.
CAUSE I HAD MISUNDERSTAND WHEN IT ALL LIGHTS STILL SUPPOSED TO GO OUT, OUT THERE IN BLEACHERS.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE PLAN? YES SIR.
THEY, THEY, WHAT REGGIE SAID WAS TRUE, BUT WHAT I RECOMMENDED, AND THEY NEVER GOT BACK TO ME, WHAT I RECOMMENDED DECIDED THEY WAS SAYING PUT A SHUFFLEBOARD ON.
I WAS SAYING MAKE A SMALLER COURT CUZ YOU GOT ONE WHOLE COURT RIGHT.
THAT'S SITTING WHERE THE, THE GYM WORKED.
BUT ON ON, IF YOU FACING, UH, CHAPMAN STREET ON THE RIGHT OF IT USED TO BE WHERE THE CLASSROOMS AND RIGHT, RIGHT.
MUDROOM AND EVERYTHING AT YOU STILL COULD PUT A SMALLER COURT ON THAT SIDE BECAUSE WHEN THAT FULL COURT IS TAKEN
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UP, YOU MIGHT HAVE THE SAME PEOPLE COMPLAIN, THE SAME PEOPLE OVER AND OVER.SO YOU GOT OTHER PEOPLE JUST STANDING WAITING FOR HOURS TO TRY TO GET ON THAT COURT.
AND THE OTHER THING I, I RECOMMEND ARE OR ASK, BUT I NEVER GOT ANY CLARITY ON IT.
I DON'T LIKE THE BACKBOARDS THAT YOU PUT UP THERE.
IT, IT JUST LOOK FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE DOING FOR THE COMMUNITY FOR THE SIZE OF NEWBURN.
WHEN I GO TO MAYSVILLE, IT'S A SMALLER TOWN AND, AND THE PARK THAT THEY HAVE IS UPGRADED IN THE BACKBOARDS ARE PROFESSIONALS, GLASS, WHATEVER.
AND, AND JUST TO SEE THEM LITTLE CHEAP RIMS THAT WE'VE BEEN HAVING FOR YEAR AFTER YEAR, UM, I I I THINK THEY NEED TO COME DOWN THE BACKWARDS NEED TO COME DOWN AND PUT SOME REAL BACKWARDS UP THERE.
AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID AT THE VERY BEGINNING, EVEN BEFORE THEY DID THE PROJECT.
I, I THINK WE DESERVE MORE FOR THE SIZE OF THE CITY THAT WE HAD.
SO THE PLAN THAT I HAVE, I'M LOOKING AT IT SAYS THAT IT'S, UH, OBVIOUSLY 14 ACRES IN SIZE THAT THERE'S NEW RESTROOMS, SHELTERS, UM, BASEBALL FIELD, SOFTBALL FIELD PLAYGROUND FOR TWO TO 12 YEAR OLD MULTIPURPOSE FOOTBALL, SOCCER FIELD, TWO LIGHTED BASKETBALL COURTS MINI AM AM AREA WHERE THE RAIN STATION SPLASH PAD WATER FEATURING ONE MILE WALKING TRAILSIDE STATIONS, THAT'S DEDICATED ENTRANCE PARKING VETERAN GARDEN.
IS THAT STILL THE PLAN? UM, AT THE DON'T KNOW ABOUT SPRAY PARK? I HAVE NOT BEEN, I KNOW THE PROBLEM WITH THE SPRAY PARK OUT IT'S TOO WET.
THAT IS TOO WET AND THE GROUND IS, WELL THE REASON ONE ON GEORGE STREET NOW CAUSE THAT SAME PROBLEM WE HAD OUT THERE, UH, UH, CHRIS, I KNOW HE IS TOO YOUNG, BUT WITH THE, UH, IT USED TO BE A DUMP SITE AND IT KEPT, UH, WE HAD IT GROUND TESTED, DID DRILL, DID TEST DRILLS AND UH, IT JUST WOULDN'T WORK THERE.
CAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT ORIGINALLY SUPPOSED TO WENT.
UH, BUT I'M HOPING THAT IT IS GROUND IS ABOUT STOP SELLING.
IT'S BEEN OVER 30 YEARS AND IT HOPEFULLY IT, WE IT IS, IT'LL STOP IT.
NOW WE CAN BASICALLY DO SOME MORE THINGS OUT THERE.
BUT THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN REASONS THAT THE SPLASH PAD IS DOWN ON GEORGE STREET.
SO THESE OTHER ITEMS, ARE THOSE STILL IN THE PLAN ON, UM, ALL OF THOSE ARE IN THE PLAN OTHER THAN THE SPLASH AREA AND THE VETERANS PARK BECAUSE THEY MOVED, YEAH, THEY MOVED TO A DIFFERENT LOCATION.
THE OLD, UH, WE GONNA DEMOLISH THE OLD COURTS OVER THERE IN THE CORNER.
THE TWO THAT'S OUT THERE NOW BESIDE THE OTHER ONE.
CAUSE OVER THE YEARS THEY HAVE SEEN SOMETHING TOO.
SO, BUT, UH, IF YOU DECIDE TO PUT SOME, THOSE GOALS AND STUFF TO STILL BE USABLE SOMEWHERE ELSE OUT THERE.
I MEAN JUST THAT THE AREA OVER THERE IS WHEN IT'S A HARD RAIN, IT'S UNDERWATER.
BUT IF YOU GO OFF FROM WHERE MR. CURSE, MR. STEWART'S TALKING ABOUT TWO LIGHTED COURTS, WHERE WOULD YOU PUT TWO LIGHT COURTS THEN ALREADY DID THE COURTS.
AND THEN THERE'S THE OLD COURT THAT'S STILL THERE.
THERE'S, HE'S TALKING ABOUT IT GOES UNDER THE, ONE OF, ONE OF THEM IS DEFINITELY DONE SOMETHING.
REGGIE, REGGIE I DEAL WITH DEAL WITH CONSTRUCTION.
WHAT THE CITY IN THE DID, THEY DID A FALL ON THAT THING SO THE WATER COULD DRAIN INTO THAT DITCH.
WELL, ONE END OF IT, ONE OF'EM, WELL THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
THEY DID A FAULT, WHAT THEY CALL A FALL.
SO WHEN THE WATER COMES FROM THE SHELTER AREA BACK DOWN TOWARDS THE TRAIL, IT GOES INTO THE CANAL.
IT NEVER SAN I GO OUT, I STILL GO OUT THERE AND PLAY.
THE COURT HAD NEVER SAN THEY DESIGNED IT THAT WAY.
ACTUALLY BOTH OF THOSE COURTS WAS UNDER, UNDER THE, THE GROUND ITSELF.
IT NEVER WAS ABOVE THE GROUND.
EVEN WHEN CHANDLER WAS OUT THERE WITH HIS LEAD, WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN, IT NEVER WAS OVER.
UH, THE GROUND ITSELF, THEY DID IT JUST LIKE THEY DO SIDEWALKS.
SIDEWALKS ARE CUT BELOW THE EARTH.
WELL, I'M NOT TRYING TO DISPUTE.
SO THEY, THEY, IN OTHER WORDS, THEY ORIGINALLY HAD DONE, UH, OUT THERE MM-HMM.
ALWAYS BEEN A PROBLEM OF DRAINAGE.
BUT THAT ONE COURT AT THE FRONT, IT, WE HAD TO COME OUT.
IT, IT WASN'T, THE WATER WASN'T SENT OFF IN THAT AREA, THAT END OF THE COURT.
THAT'S WHY WE STOPPED DOING THE OUTSIDE TOURNAMENTS AND STUFF OUT THERE BECAUSE ONE END WAS LOWER THAN THE OTHER.
IT WASN'T CAUSE OF SOMETHING THEY DID EVER.
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THAT END HAD JUST SANK IN.SO, SO MY, MY REQUEST CARRIE, WOULD BE COULD YOU JUST SEND SOMETHING, A UPDATE, UH, TO US WHEN THE CONSTRUCTION FOR HENDERSON PARK IS GONNA BEGIN BACK AND KIND OF LIKE A TIME, LIKE A PROJECTED TIMELINE AND JUST CONFIRMING THAT BASED ON THE PLAN THAT WE, THAT, THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PROVIDED, THAT ALL THOSE THINGS ARE STILL HAPPENING EXCEPT FOR THE SPLASH PAD AND THE VETERANS GARDEN.
AND I THOUGHT WE ADDED AN ADDITIONAL SHELTER OUT THERE.
WE ARE ADDING, UH, IT'S A 30 BY 60.
WE ACTUALLY HAVE THAT IN STOCK AND THAT'S GONNA BE ONE OF THE NEXT THINGS WE, UM, INSTALL WHEN WE GET BACK OUT THERE.
SO HAS THE EP HAS, UM, SEMA APPROVED, THE BATHROOMS AND MM-HMM.
SO IS IT FAIR JUST TO REQUEST A TIMELINE? I'LL DO MY BEST, YOU KNOW, TO GIVE YOU A TIMELINE.
I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT IT'S GONNA STICK TO THAT, YOU KNOW.
JUST TO HAVE A, UM, BECAUSE Y'ALL KNOW THAT WE DO ALL THIS WORK IN HOUSE.
AND I HAVE ONE PERSON THAT DOES THE WORK WITH TWO LABORERS.
SO, YOU KNOW, HE'S CAN ONLY GET SO MUCH DONE, YOU KNOW, AND WITH SOMETIMES WITH SUPPLIES GETTING 'EM IN.
BUT, UM, WELL THIS WILL BE YOUR FIRST YEAR OF BEING ABLE TO DO YOUR BUDGET, RIGHT? CORRECT.
SO THAT MEANS YOU PROBABLY NEED TO BE FOR SOME, SOME MORE ELSE.
THAT'S WHAT IT SOUND TO MEANS.
LIKE YOU NEED TO HIRE SOME FOLK.
NOW THE STRUCTURE IS STILL GONNA BE ON THE SAME FOOTPRINT AS THE, UH, STRUCTURE DOWN AT THE, AT THE FARMER'S MARKET.
DO WHAT? NO, THE STRUCTURE THAT THE GONNA BE PUTTING OUT IN UH, FENDERSON PARK, IS THIS GONNA BE AN OPEN AIR? YES.
SO IS IT GONNA BE EXACT? UH, SIMILAR TO THE BIG ONE THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE OUT THERE? THERE? YEAH.
IT'S GONNA BE BIGGER, BUT A LITTLE, IT WON'T BE THE EXACT SAME ONE CAUSE IT'S MORE OF A SHELTER KIT VERSUS THAT ONE THAT WAS JUST BILL, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
BUT WE ORDER THESE, UM, STRUCTURES THAT ARE ENGINEERED ON THE PRE, PRE-TRIAL.
SO DO YOU KNOW THE LOCATION? YES.
SO WE'RE ALMOST BEHIND THE BUILDING.
THAT'S A LITTLE OUTTA GROUND ANYWAY.
WHEN DO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'RE GONNA GIVE US A PUSH BACK TO THE TIMELINE? WHEN ARE YOU THINKING THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WILL START BACK OUT THERE AT HENDERSON PARK? YES, SIR.
UM, I'M HOPING AS SOON AS THEY COMPLETE THE PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY CENTER, WE'LL BE, WE'RE TWO TO THREE MONTHS.
I MEAN, SAY THIS PROJECT PROBABLY WON'T GO ON THE WAY TIL PROBABLY SECOND QUARTER.
SO, UH, IS THE CITY DOING THAT OUT THERE IN PLEASANT HILL? ARE THEY CONTACTING? YES SIR.
CAUSE I KNOW THE, THE ONE AT STAN WHITE, UH, THEY SUBCONTRACTED THAT CAUSE I KNOW, UH, THE DI HUNT JIMMY DI HUNT MM-HMM.
SO THAT WAS, EVEN THOUGH, IF YOU WANT TO, TO SPEED IT UP FOR, FOR TIME, IF YOU WANT TO SUCK IT OUT, CONTRACT IT OUT INSTEAD OF THE CITY HAVING TO WAIT ON THE CITY WORKERS, YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? CAUSE THE, THE WINTER'S NOT GONNA BE HERE TOO LONG.
UM, SO IF, IF YOU HAVE IN YOUR BUDGET THAT CONTRACT IT OUT FOR THE CONTRACTOR COME IN AND GO IN AND GET IT UP.
THANK YOU FOR THAT RECOMMENDATION.
UM, AND THEN THE, WHAT IS YOUR PROJECTION ON HAVING THESE PERMITS SO THAT IT IS NOW GOING UP FOR BEER FOR THE BUILDING OF STEP? I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT FROM THE ARCHITECTURE.
WELL, THEY HAVE TO HAVE GIVEN YOU SOMETHING AT THIS POINT.
CAUSE IT'S BEEN, I MEAN IT'S BEEN, IT'S BEEN SOME TIME.
SO THEY, THEY, SO, SO THEY'RE WAITING ON PERMITS.
CAN YOU, YOU GIVE US SPECIFICS ON THE PERMITS THAT YOU'RE WAITING FOR BY I CAN, BUT I DON'T HAVE THAT RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME RIGHT NOW.
AND THEN, BUT ARE YOU SAYING LIKE THAT'S SOMETIME EARLY FEBRUARY OR YOU SAYING THAT'S THE END OF THE QUARTER? OR YOU THINKING THAT THIS IS UP? IT SHOULD BE WITHIN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS AS FAR AS I'VE BEEN TOLD THAT THEY'LL PUT IT OUT FOR BID.
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CAN WE HAVE CP AND L MEET WITH US OUR NEXT MEETING TO UPDATE US ON EVERYTHING THAT THEY'VE DONE AND WHERE THEY ARE? I CAN CERTAINLY ASK YOU, SIR.THAT WAY WE WON'T BEAT YOU UP AS BAD.
WELL, AND I, I THINK IT'S A LITTLE BIT EASIER FOR THEM TO ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING.
THAT'S WHY I, CAUSE THEY'RE THE ONES ACTUALLY DOING RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT THEY'RE, THEY ASK FOR THAT.
MY, MY MY MAIN CONCERN RIGHT NOW AND UM, IS THAT WE ARE GOING INTO YEAR FOUR WITHOUT A REC CENTER IN THAT AREA.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S GONNA BE TWO MORE YEARS BEFORE WE EVEN BREAK GROUND.
AND, AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT A GENERATION OF OUR CHILDREN WHO HAVE NOT HAD A WRECK, A FACILITY FOR THEM.
AND IT'S LIKE, I, AND, AND I'M NOT BLAMING ANYBODY, HOWEVER, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE CITY DOESN'T CARE.
THAT'S JUST MY OPINION BECAUSE WE, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE TREADING WATER.
WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN.
AND IT IS, IT'S UM, IT'S STARTING REALLY STARTING TO BE REDUNDANT ABOUT SOME THINGS.
WE'D HAVE BROKE GROUND BY NOW.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE TISDALE HOUSE IS STILL THERE.
I MEAN, IS IT BEING MOVED? WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT? YOU KNOW, I HEARD THAT IT IS BEEN, IT IS ALREADY BEEN PURCHASED THE SEED THAT GAVE UP SOME LAND SOMEWHERE.
SO WHY THE HOUSE HASN'T BEEN MOVED.
BUT I DO KNOW THERE HAS BEEN A DATE SET THAT IT HAS TO BE MOVED BY.
WHAT'S THAT DATE AGAIN? CAUSE I DIDN'T READ THAT.
OH, IT'S FEBRUARY SOMETHING, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER.
YEAH, IT'S WITHIN THE FIRST TWO WEEKS OF FEBRUARY, I BELIEVE.
I MEAN, SO IF THEY DON'T MEET THAT DEADLINE, THEN WHAT? I JUST THREW IT OUT THERE.
AND THE OTHER THING, UM, WITH THE HOUSE, HOW ABOUT THE, THE AREA WITH THE RESTAURANT? WHAT HAVE, HAVE BECOME OF THAT? THAT THAT'S PART OF THIS PROPERTY? PROPERTY THAT, WHERE DOES THEY HAD A PUBLIC, UM, MEETING ON THAT.
SO WHAT HAPPENED, UH, DURING THAT PUBLIC MEETING? I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK WITH DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES.
I I MISSED WHAT YOU SAID ELIJAH.
THE PROPERTY WHERE AGAINST SANDWICH SHOP USED TO BE.
THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING NOTICE FOR THAT.
I'LL HAVE TO, I'LL HAVE TO GET THAT UP FOR YOU.
I JUST WANT TO KNOW THE RESULTS OF THE PUBLIC MEETING.
SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE ON WELL FOR ME THAT MY, MY ENERGY IS BEING PUT RIGHT IN THE RIGHT PLACE.
SO FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY THIS, THAT WE CAN'T, I DON'T WANT TO KEEP COMPLAINING ABOUT CERTAIN THINGS THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL AT THIS POINT.
BUT I GUESS I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT NOW THAT WE HAVE A CONCEPT, THAT THERE'S A BUILDING, THERE'S, THERE'S DRAWINGS, THERE'S A, A PLAN, UH, THERE'S A, A PROJECTIVE DATE THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT THIS OUT BID.
THAT WE ARE ABLE TO, AS IT STATES NOW MOVING FORWARD, FOCUS OUR ENERGY ON THAT WE'RE, OUR VOICE IS BEING HEARD IN THIS DESIGN, THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS PROGRAMMING, UH, UH, AND THAT WE ARE INCLUDED, UH, IN THOSE CONVERSATIONS MOVING FORWARD.
I MEAN, I THINK THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS OF WHY WE'RE WHERE WE'RE AT NOW FROM PETITIONS TO ALL TYPES OF STUFF THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S BEEN A A I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S JUST BEEN THE WAY THAT THIS PROCESS HAS WENT.
CAUSE THE PEOPLE NOT UNDERSTANDING OR INFORMATION NOT BEING GIVEN FROM THE CITY OR WHAT THINGS AND HOW THINGS SHOULD OCCUR TO PEOPLE MISUNDERSTANDING.
BUT AT THIS POINT, WE GOTTA PUT OUR ENERGY ON WHAT WE CAN CONTROL AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU GUYS INCLUDE US AT THE TABLE FOR THOSE THINGS.
WELL, YOU KNOW, GOING FORWARD, OTHER THAN GETTING THE BUILDING CONSTRUCTION, THE BIGGEST ROLE FOR US IS GONNA BE HOW WE'RE GONNA PROGRAM.
AND THAT'S WHERE I NEED A LOT OF INPUT ON WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE COMMUNITY, WHAT'S WANTED IN THE COMMUNITY AS FAR AS RECREATION PROGRAMMING.
UM, BECAUSE THAT'LL TELL ME WHAT DIRECTION I NEED TO GO IN.
WELL, DO YOU HAVE STAFFING, UH, AVAILABLE FOR STANLEY WAYNE? I DO.
CAUSE WE HAD TO MOVE TO STAFF THAT WAS THERE.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD TO MOVE 'EM OUT.
SO WE SPREAD 'EM OUT BETWEEN THE RECREATION CENTER AND, UH, A OFFICE AREA THAT WE HAVE AT THE AQUATIC CENTER.
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SO WE'VE KIND OF SPREAD STAFF OUT.THEY'RE WORKING OUT OUR RECREATION CENTER, THE MEGA CENTER.
SO THE STAFF WILL BE SPREAD BACK OUT TO STANLEY WHITE LIKE THEY WERE PREVIOUSLY.
BUT YOU HAD, YOU HAD SOME RETIREMENTS THOUGH IN REC DEPARTMENT.
UM, THAT WAS ALL, WELL, TORRANCE IS CLOSE TO RETIREMENT.
WE'RE WORKING ON FEELING THE, THE RECREATION.
AND YOU WERE ALREADY SHORT ALREADY OVER THERE STARTED, I MEAN, YOU WERE SHORT AT STANLEY WHITE TO BEGIN WITH.
SO THAT'S WHY I ASKED THAT QUESTION.
CAUSE I, LIKE I SAID A COUPLE THINGS AND THEN I'LL TRY NOT TO SAY NO MORE.
I MEAN, I SEE THAT AS, UH, A BLOCKAGE NOW.
WHEN WE FIRST, WHEN THEY FIRST CAME UP WITH IT, I, I THOUGHT GROWING UP AROUND IT, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE LIKE ANY OTHER PLACE.
A FEW, IF IT'S IN THE WAY YOU'LL ALLOW SOMEBODY TO BUY OR NOW THAT THEY SUPPOSED TO GIVING IT TO SOMEBODY.
AND IF YOU DON'T MOVE IT AT A CERTAIN TIME, I SAY THIS, I FEEL LIKE THE CITY NEEDS TO GO AHEAD AND DO SOMETHING.
YOU MEAN HISTORY DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING.
IF IT'S SOMEBODY ELSE, IS THIS ME? IT'S A WHOLE LOT OF HISTORIC HOUSES BEEN TORN DOWN.
THAT PLACE DOESN'T MEAN NO MORE TO ME THAN THAN THE PLACES THAT THEY TORE OUT.
SEE THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE PUTTING A, A PERSON IN FRONT OF YOU TO BLOCK YOU.
SO A GUY COULD, SOMEBODY CAN RUN BY YOU.
THAT BUILDING STAND RIGHT THERE.
I DON'T CARE WHAT WE DO IS GONNA COME BACK TO THAT BUILDING.
NOW WHAT IF THAT PERSON THAT'S SUPPOSED TO HAVE THE BUILDING NUMBER ONE CHANGE THEIR MIND THAT'S STOLE IN TAXES.
I SAY, HEY, DO WHAT YOU GOTTA DO.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA KNOW WHAT YOU GOTTA DO.
WELL IF I DON'T KNOW MR. WHITE, YOU BEEN READING AND PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT, THE MEETINGS THAT REDEVELOPMENT AND SOME OTHER STUFF AT THIS POINT IN THEY'RE PAST THAT THEY ESSENTIALLY, WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME IS THEY, THEY HAD OFFERED A HOUSE FOR SOMEBODY TO TAKE IT.
IF YOU DID YOUR DUE DILIGENCE, YOU WOULD'VE RECOGNIZED THAT IT WAS QUITE A BIT TO MOVE THAT HOUSE.
NOBODY REALLY WANTED TO DO THAT.
THEY STRATEGICALLY HAVE FIGURED OUT A WAY BETWEEN THE HISTORICAL SOCIETY AND A LOT HERE IN THE CITY TO MOVE THE HOUSE NOW.
SO CAUSE IT'S, AND AGAIN, I'M NOT POLITICALLY CORRECT BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO STRATEGICALLY FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT.
THEY GOT A DATE, THEY GONNA MOVE THE HOUSE.
THEY NOT GONNA NOT MOVE THE HOUSE.
IT'S GOING RIGHT OVER THERE BY A DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IS IS A LOT BACK THERE.
SO EVEN IF THAT WAS AN ISSUE BEFORE, IT'S NOT THE ISSUE NOW, BUT HOPEFULLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS ONCE THEY MOVE THIS HOUSE, MAYBE YOU WILL HAVE A DATE STRATEGICALLY TO BE ABLE TO SAY THIS BID IS GOING OUT TO FOLKS, UH, OR TO A CONTRACT.
AND YOU GUYS CAN, I WOULD IMAGINE BY THE END OF FEBRUARY, I WOULD HOPE THE END OF THIS QUARTER YOU GUYS PLAN ON HAVING SOMEBODY THAT IS GONNA BUILD AND JUMP BACK.
CAUSE WHEN THE BIG GOES OUT, IT'S, HE CAN ONLY BE OUT FOR SO MANY DAYS.
THE REASON I SAID SOMETHING ABOUT IT, BECAUSE THERE, THERE'VE BEEN TWO HISTORIC HOUSES AND ONE, I HAD BEEN TRYING, TWO OF 'EM I HAD TRIED, I HAD TO GET TORN DOWN FOR, FOR YEARS BEFORE I GOT ON THE BOARD TRYING TO GET IT TORN DOWN.
AND THEN THEY FINALLY CAME ALONG AND TORE IT DOWN.
AND AS IT STARTED FALLING AND I WAS STILL PUSHING FOR IT, TORN DOWN, PUT LIGHT POSTERS UP TO HOLD IT UP AND IT STILL STAYED THERE.
NOW THEY FINALLY TORE IT DOWN THAT, WELL, THEY TORN IT DOWN A FEW YEARS AGO.
THIS, THIS HERE IS THE SAME TACTICS TO ME ARE THE SAME MOVE.
THE PEOPLE THAT WENT THE HOUSE PROBABLY REALLY WANT THE HOUSE, BUT MOVING IT PROBABLY BE THE PROBLEM.
I'VE SEEN THE MOVE A HOUSE FROM WHERE TACO BELLS IS BIG TWO-STORY HOUSE.
THEY CUT PARTS THAT THEY COULD USE TO BRING IT DOWN, BRING IT DOWN THERE, THE, UH, BROAD STREET TO TAKE IT DOWN AND PUT BY, PUT AROUND IT BY THE COURTHOUSE.
I SEEN EM A LOT, BUT WHEN IT COME TO CERTAIN HOUSES, IT'LL MAKE A DIFFERENCE.
HOW LONG HE'S BEEN THERE, BEEN THERE THE EIGHT, UH, 1919.
SO I JUST SAY, I, I, YOU NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THAT, THAT BLOCK BECAUSE IF I, I GOTTA RUN AND RUNNING THE BALL AND YOU GET HIM THE FIRST TIME, I'M GONNA SEE THAT YOU GOT THE FIRST TIME.
SO NEXT TIME I'M MAKE SURE THAT A MAN TAKE HIM OUT AND SO HE CAN GO ON DOWN, DOWN THE COURT, YOU KNOW, SO THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S STUFF THAT GAME THEY PLAY, MAN.
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TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THE REQUEST THAT WE KNOW THAT I'M ASKING, UM MM-HMM.YOU'RE GONNA HAVE CP AND L POTENTIALLY COME TO OUR NEXT MEETING.
UH, AND THEN YOU'LL GIVE US A TIMELINE ON THE HENDERSON, THE, UH, HENDERSON PARK MM-HMM.
AND, UM, THE QUESTION IN REGARDS TO MINORITY BUSINESSES WILL PRETTY MUCH BE A GENERAL CONTRACTOR QUESTION OR CP N L UH, QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, CAUSE I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT QUITE A BIT MM-HMM.
UM, BUT THE THINGS THAT WE CAN CONTROL MOVING FORWARD.
THOSE ARE KIND OF MY FIVE OR SIX QUESTIONS ON MAKE SURE THAT, OKAY.
UM, Y'ALL READY TO MOVE FORWARD ON NEXT
[7. History Wall Recommendations]
ITEM? UM, I KNOW LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THE HISTORY WALL, UM, AND MR. MORGAN ASKED THAT ANYBODY BRING BACK ANY RECOMMENDATIONS ON SLOGANS FOR THE HISTORY WALL, UH, FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS.DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD AS FAR AS THE SLOGANS OR ANYTHING ON THE HISTORY WALL? SO I'M NOT CLEAR.
ARE YOU SAYING THERE'S JUST GONNA BE A WALL FOR HISTORY? ARE YOU SAYING THIS IS THROUGHOUT THE, THE, THE FACILITY ITSELF OR YOU SAYING THERE'S GONNA BE A DESIGNATED AREA THAT'S FOR THE HISTORY OF STANDING WHITE REGULATION? IT'S GONNA BE A DESIGNATED WALL.
HOW BIG IS THAT WALL? OH GOSH, IT'S PRETTY GOOD SIZE.
I CAN'T, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBERS OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
SO FROM US, ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, I KNOW THAT WE, ROBBIE DIDN'T ASK US TO COME BACK WITH THREE OR FOUR DIFFERENT IDEAS.
UM, BUT DO WE, ARE WE GIVING YOU SOME VISUALS? ARE WE GIVING YOU WORDING? WHAT ARE WE GIVING YOU THAT YOU'RE GONNA TAKE? ARE YOU GONNA TAKE THIS INFORMATION AND KIND OF PUT TOGETHER A CONCEPT OR WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? I WILL TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND PROVIDE IT TO THE DESIGN TEAM FOR THAT, THAT CP AND F MM-HMM.
AND THEY WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMING UP WITH PLANS FOR THAT.
AND WHAT, SO YOU NEED HARD ITEMS FROM US.
DO YOU NEED WORDING OR YOU NEED A GOOGLE DOC? WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM US IN ORDER TO TAKE THAT BACK? YOU CAN SEND ME EMAILS WITH RECOMMENDATIONS.
YOU CAN SEND ME PICTURES IF YOU WANT TO, UM, VIA EMAIL OR WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, UM, IF THERE'S CERTAIN SLOGANS OR THINGS YOU FEEL LIKE SHOULD BE INCLUDED ON THAT WALL.
UM, JUST BASICALLY WHAT YOU FEEL LIKE THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER, THE HISTORY OF IT, IF I MAY PLEASE.
WHAT I'VE DONE IS I'VE GONE OUT TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UH, SPOKE WITH MS. K A, CLEO WHITE, MS. PAM WHITE, UM, ALL I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE MIDGET FAMILY, SCOBY MIDGET, MR. BOOK.
SOME OF THOSE THAT MAY HAVE PLAYED FOR THE, UH, NEWBURN GIANTS, WHICH WAS ON ONE OF THE BASEBALL TEAMS HERE THAT MR. STANLEY WHITE, UH, WAS A MEMBER OF ALSO.
UH, MR. PENDER AND I SPOKE LAST ABOUT SOME OF THE PICTURES, UH, FROM SOME OF THE GRADUATING CLASSES, UH, FROM THE CEDAR STREET, WHICH TRANSFORMED OVER INTO STANLEY WHITE BECAUSE THAT WAS THE KINDERGARTEN THAT A LOT OF US GRADUATED FROM.
UH, ALSO ALONG WITH MS. PERLEY, MAY MARTIN, MS. GOLDIE, SOME OF THOSE THAT WERE INSTRUMENTAL IN RUNNING MORE THAN JUST A RECREATION CENTER, BUT RUNNING A SAFE HAVEN ALONG WITH SOME OF THE ATHLETES THAT HAVE GONE AND TAKEN THEIR SKILLS TO THE NEXT LEVEL.
AND SOME OF THEM, EVEN IN THE PROFESSIONAL RANKS THAT CAME THROUGH THAT CENTER, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND ASKING FOR ARE HARD COPIES OF PICTURES THAT WE CAN SOMEHOW TRANSFORM ONTO THAT WALL SO THAT WE COULD HAVE, UM, A PICTORIAL HISTORY.
BUT ALSO WE NEEDED A MANTRA OR NEEDED A SLOGAN.
AND THAT WAS WHERE I HAD KIND OF ALSO ASKED A FEW PEOPLE.
AND THESE WERE JUST SOME OF THE, UH, RESPONSES THAT I GOT.
ONE WAS REMEMBERING THE PAST, LIVING IN THE PRESENT, FOCUSING ON THE FUTURE.
THEN OF COURSE, SOMEBODY, UH, WANTED TO CHANGE IT AND SAID, CHANGE IT TO BELIEVING IN THE FUTURE OR TRUSTING IN THE FUTURE.
ANOTHER ONE THAT I RECEIVED WAS FROM THE ROOTS TO THE TRUNK TO THE BRANCHES AND THE LEAVES.
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WE CONTINUE TO, TO GROW.ONE OF THE OTHER ONES THE BEST WAY IN THIS, I THINK I DID LOOK THIS ONE UP CUZ I KNEW I HAD HEARD IT.
THIS ACTUALLY CAME FROM ABRAHAM LINCOLN.
THE BEST WAY TO PREDICT THE FUTURE IS TO CREATE IT.
AND I KNEW I HAD HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE.
UH, ANOTHER ONE THAT I RECEIVED.
AND ONE OF THE FINAL ONES THAT I RECEIVED WAS WE LEARNED FROM THE PAST, WE PROTECT OUR PRESENT AND WE CREATE OUR FUTURE.
SO THOSE WERE JUST SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I PUT OUT THERE.
AND I'M NOT GONNA TELL YOU WHICH ONES WERE ACTUALLY MINE, UH, BUT I DID TALK WITH SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, AND THAT'S WHAT I RECEIVED.
BUT WE'RE LOOKING FOR HARD COPY HISTORY.
UM, I DO SEE A COUPLE OF GENTLEMEN HERE TONIGHT, AND THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING.
I KNOW YOU HAVE SOME HISTORY, UH, HERE IN THAT AREA COMING, COMING THROUGH THAT, THAT REC CENTER.
UH, BOTH OF YOU, I KNOW THAT YOUR FATHER MAY HAVE HAD ALL KINDS OF DIFFERENT, UH, PICTURES.
UH, MR. MONROE, I KNOW THAT BILLY, MR. I'M SORRY.
BILLY, I KNOW THAT YOU PLAYED WITH A LOT OF THOSE GUYS COMING UP AND DEFINITELY TOOK YOUR SKILLS TO THE, UH, NEXT LEVEL AND BEYOND.
AND WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME OF THOSE PICTURES OF WHEN YOU WERE YOUNG, WHEN YOU WERE GROWING UP BEFORE YOU WENT AND MADE YOUR, UH, PLACE DOWN AT FAYETTEVILLE STATE.
AND, UH, MADE ALL OF US PROUD ME AS A LITTLE BOY COME AND WATCHING YOU PLAY, UH, JUST MEANT A LOT TO ME.
AND THOSE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I GRASPED AND THAT I HOLD ON TO, UH, NEW BERN GIANTS PLAYING IN CAFA PARK, WHICH WAS NOT A PARK, IT WAS AN ACTUAL STADIUM.
THAT WAS A STADIUM, UH, THAT, THAT WE HAD THERE.
AND, AND IT JUST HAPPENED TO BE THE STADIUM THAT, UH, MR. STANLEY WHITE TOOK HIS LAST BREATH IN OUT THERE TRYING TO FIX LIGHTS FOR US, YOU KNOW? UM, SO THESE ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HOLD ON TO GRASP, CLINGING TO, AND TRY TO JUST GET AS MUCH HISTORY AS WE CAN GET, AS MUCH HISTORY AS YOU CAN THINK ABOUT, AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS.
I HAD MADE A POST A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, UH, WHILE STANLEY WHITE WAS STILL STANDING, AND PEOPLE ARE STILL COMMENTING ON IT, COMMENTING ON IT.
AND TODAY I HAD ABOUT FIVE DIFFERENT COMMENTS COME ON IN, AND I DID TAG MRS. WARREN IN AND JUST SO THAT SHE COULD KIND OF READ SOME OF THE COMMENTS AND FEEL SOME OF THE STORIES THAT PEOPLE SHARED, UM, IN THEIR COMING UP, IN THEIR EXPERIENCES, WHETHER IT HAD BEEN WITH MR. PENDA BEING AT THE HELM, WHETHER IT HAD BEEN WITH BOOK OR, UH, MR. UH, SPENCER BEING AT THE HELM, OR JUST WHEN THEY WON A, UH, NATIONAL TITLE, THEY WON A STATE TITLE COMING THROUGH STANLEY WHITE AND STANLEY WHITE JUST BREEZED THROUGH THE STATE, YOU KNOW, JUST WINNING GAMES AND IT CAME OUT OF THAT RECREATION CENTER.
UM, YOU KNOW, SO WE JUST ASK THAT YOU REACH OUT TO THOSE THAT YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT YOU HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH AND GET US SOME OF THAT HISTORY.
I'M SORRY I WAS REAL LONG
I'M SORRY, YOU, THERE'S ONE PROBLEM WITH ALL THAT, ROBBIE, AND THAT WAS VERY GOOD INFORMATION THAT YOU JUST SAID, BUT I JUST THINK THAT, SO THIS DOESN'T GET LOST BECAUSE THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS I JUST, I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT I, I'M WILLING TO, I DON'T HAVE NEARLY THE KNOWLEDGE OF THE HISTORY JUST BASED ON AGE
UM, BECAUSE ALL OF THAT RIGHT THERE, I, I BET YOU IT GETS LOST SOMEWHERE.
I MEAN, NO, THERE'S NO WAY TO REMEMBER ALL THAT.
SO I WOULD JUST SAY I'M, I'M WILLING TO MAYBE NEXT WEEK FOR US TO GET TOGETHER WITH US JUST STARTING THAT CONVERSATION AND START GETTING HER SOME OF THAT INFORMATION.
THE PICTURES THAT WE MAY HAVE OR PEOPLE MAY HAVE.
UH, I'M WILLING TO HELP, UH, ORCHESTRATE THAT.
BUT I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE'RE JUST GONNA HAVE TO GET TOGETHER, UM, OR PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE INFORMATION.
I CAN MOST CERTAINLY AGREE WITH YOU, MR. STEWART, AND WE ARE LIVING IN A DIGITAL AGE, SO IF YOU'LL JUST LOOK STRAIGHT AHEAD AT THOSE CAMERAS AND JUST KNOW THAT WE ARE BEING RECORDED.
BUT POINT, JUST TAKING THEM SERIOUSLY THOUGH PAPER, BECAUSE IT WAS GOOD INFORMATION AND WE NEED TO GET ON PAPER TO GET TO HER SO THAT SHE CAN BEGIN TO TRY TO I AGREE.
AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO, UH, SHARE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT I DID SPEAK WITH.
AND THAT IS A PASSION OF MINE, UH, THE HISTORY AND JUST KNOWING.
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DEFINITELY WRITE IT DOWN.AND I DO WANT THIS COMMITTEE TO BE THE DESIGNERS OF THAT WALL.
THERE'S NOBODY MORE QUALIFIED FOR ANYBODY TO DESIGN THAT WALL OTHER THAN US.
AND WHEN I MEAN US, IT COULD BE 30 OF US, IT COULD BE 3000 OF US THAT ARE ALL QUALIFIED TO ADD SOMETHING TO THAT WALL BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN THOUSANDS, TENS OF THOUSANDS OF US THAT HAVE COME THROUGH THERE.
AND THAT I'M, I'M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT NEWBURN CITIZENS, I'M TALKING ABOUT COUSINS THAT HAVE COME DOWN FROM, UH, NEW YORK, COME DOWN FOR THE SUMMER AND THEY SPENT THEIR SUMMERS AT STANLEY WHITE.
UH, SO YEAH, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO MAKE SURE THAT I WRITE IT DOWN, THAT I, UH, DOCUMENT IT AND THAT WE START WORKING ON THE HARD COPIES.
BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE THE DESIGNERS OF THAT WALL, AND WHEN I SAY WE, ANYBODY WHO HAD ANYTHING TO ADD OR THAT LEARNED ANYTHING FROM BEING IN THAT CENTER.
CAN YOU, UM, EMAIL ME THOSE SLOGANS YOU JUST READ OFF SO I CAN GO AHEAD AND START HAVING FILE OF THOSE? ABSOLUTELY.
OH, AND THE NEXT TIME I ASK MY BOARD TO, I CHALLENGE YOU TO BRING ME BACK SOMETHING, BRING IT BACK,
[8. Recreation Center Services and Programming Recommendations.]
ON TO RECREATION CENTER SERVICES AND PROGRAM AND RECOMMENDATIONS.SO I KNOW YOU, MR. WOOD, YOU SPOKE ABOUT STAFFING.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WANT Y'ALL TO BRING ME BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS OF WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE THERE.
UM, AND IF I WAS TO DEVELOP A, UM, SURVEY THAT YOU COULD SEND OUT TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY, UM, ON THE TYPE OF PROGRAMMING AND RECREATION SERVICES THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND PROGRAMS THEY WOULD LIKE US TO OFFER, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, UM, IF YOU GUYS COULD HELP ME GET THAT OUT.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE RIGHT NOW ANY IDEAS OR ANY, UM, RECOMMENDATIONS THEY WANT TO BRING UP REGARDING PROGRAMMING? WELL, I THINK, UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS I THINK WE NEED TO BRING BACK IS THAT AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAM, I MEAN, IT HELPED A LOT OF KIDS, NOT ONLY EDUCATIONALLY, BUT, UH, TO KEEP THEM, UH, MOTIVATED.
UH, IT, IT TURNED OUT, AND IT'S STILL GOING ON SOMEWHERE.
I HAVEN'T, UH, I KNOW THEY'RE STILL DOING THAT WEST NEWBURN, BUT, BUT, UH, THAT'S ONE THING THAT DEFINITELY NEED TO GO BACK IN.
UH, AND, AND WITH SOME, MAYBE SOME ADDED STUFF, COMPUTERS AND STUFF LIKE THAT WE WERE PLANNING ON BEFORE THEN, BUT WE GOT THE MONEY FOR THAT PROGRAM THROUGH A GRANT MM-HMM.
AND WE DID, AND THEY DID IT RIGHT.
ALL THE STAFF, INCLUDING ME, HAD TO GET THEIR CHILDCARE CREDENTIALS, UH, IN ORDER FOR THE PROGRAM TO BE IN IT.
AND IT, AND WE WASN'T TRYING TO MAKE MONEY OUT THAT PROGRAM.
UH, WE CHARGED SOMETHING LIKE, WHAT, 10, I THINK WE STARTED OFF ABOUT $10, UH, A WEEK.
UH, FOR THAT MATTER OF FACT, I STILL GOT MY SHIRTS,
BUT IT WAS A JOY THAT, UH, UH, UH, SOMETHING THAT REALLY CAME ON THAT WAS REALLY GREAT.
AND BESIDES THE SPORTS AND IT HELPED OUT A LOT OF KIDS AND THEY LOOKED FORWARD TO IT.
UM, AND AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO PUT IN RIGHT INTO YOU.
AND I HEARD YOU SAY BRING IT BACK.
UM, BUT THERE'S A COUPLE DIFFERENT CHALLENGES YOU GONNA FACE.
AND I THINK THE BIGGEST ONE IS I CAN REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WHEN, WHEN, WHEN BOOK AND OTHER PEOPLE WERE THERE, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY OUR COMMUNITY FUNDS OF, OF, OF ISSUE.
SO, UH, UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS IS A BUSINESS, I THINK YOU'RE GONNA BE CHALLENGED WITH MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S CREATIVE WAYS THAT PEOPLE CAN STILL PARTICIPATE AND THAT MAY NOT HAVE FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO THINGS.
THAT'S A GREAT, THERE'S A MAJORITY OF OUR CITY IS FUNDED BY GRANTS.
IT'S NOT, PEOPLE DON'T GET PAID BY TAX DOLLARS, JUST PEOPLE GETTING, OUR CITY IS FUNDED BY GRANTS, SO PEOPLE KNOW HOW TO WRITE GRANTS HERE.
WE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THE PROGRAMS THAT ARE THERE, PEOPLE CAN AFFORD 'EM AND PEOPLE CAN PARTICIPATE.
UH, THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM, THEY'RE POP WARNER.
I KNOW IT'S NOT POP WARNER ANYMORE.
IT'S JUST A, A DIFFERENT LEAGUE PICKET AND, AND OTHER FOLKS HAVE, HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH IT.
I THINK THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM IS IMPORTANT BACK OVER IN THAT, IN THAT COMMUNITY.
UH, THEY USED TO BE A, MY MOTHER USED TO GO THERE AND THEY USED TO DO CERAMICS WHERE SEMINAR, I'M SURE SHE DID CERAMICS, UH, PEOPLE, THERE WAS A CERAMIC CLASS THAT WAS THERE FOR YEARS, I MEAN, SINCE I CAN REMEMBER.
UM, AND THEN THE, UM, THEY HAD THE SENIOR CITIZEN PROGRAM THERE, SENIOR CITIZENS PROGRAM.
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BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT IS JUST WHATEVER PROGRAMS ARE THERE, IT'S GOING TO, THERE'S GONNA HAVE TO BE A CULTURE OF PEOPLE THAT UNDERSTAND THAT COMMUNITY AND THE COMMUNITY OVER THERE THAT WILL WORK WITH THE KIDS TO BE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE.UH, IT CAN'T BE SOMEBODY THAT'S NOT CONNECTED TO THE COMMUNITY THERE THAT'S WORKING THE FRONT DESK THAT'S RUNNING KIDS OUT OF THERE.
AND SO AS LONG AS YOU'RE HERE, UH, I'LL CHALLENGE YOU TO BUILD THAT CULTURE WHEN YOU START THAT, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW IT WAS SUCCESSFUL BEFORE.
BUT HAVING PEOPLE THAT CAN ADAPT AND RELATE AND THAT THE KIDS SEE ON AN ONGOING BASIS VERSUS SOMEBODY THAT CAN RELATE TO THEM AT ALL.
AND I, ONE THING CURTIS SAID THAT REALLY PEED ME OFF DURING THE TIME, WE, IT GOT TO THE POINT THAT, UH, THE CITY WAS MORE INTERESTED IN MONEY AND, UH, REALLY THEY PRICED ALL THE KIDS OUT OF THE PROGRAMS. I REMEMBER PROGRAM, WE DIDN'T NEVER HAVE A PROBLEM GETTING KIDS TO PARTICIPATE MM-HMM.
UH, AND THEY BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, UH, PRICED THE KIDS OUT OF THE PROGRAM.
I MEAN, COMING FROM THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, AND TWO, AND YOU HAD TWO OR THREE KIDS IN YOUR, YOUR FAMILY, YOU WANT TO SIGN UP FOR FOOTBALL.
THEY CAN'T, THEY CAN'T AFFORD $75 OR A A HUNDRED DOLLARS, UH, A CAN.
WE MADE A WAY TO SIGN UP, MAKE SURE THEY GOT IT, UH MM-HMM.
UH, AND UH, AND THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO GET BACK TO.
YOU KNOW, HIS RECREATION IS FOR EVERYBODY.
AND I WHAT I HATE SEEING A KID OUT WATCHING THAT CAN'T PLAY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T AFFORD HIM.
YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WAS THE THING.
I HAD TO SIT ON MY WAY OUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WAS REALLY, YOU KNOW, AND I WAS PROGRAM DROPPED OFF.
YOU KNOW, REMEMBER I WILL INTERRUPT AND JUST SAY THIS, THAT THOSE NEW BERN HIGH STATE CHAMPIONSHIPS THAT CAME THROUGH NEW BERN HIGH STARTED AT STANLEY WHITE.
THEY STARTED AT STANLEY WHITE BECAUSE THEY HAD THOSE YOUNG GUYS OUT THERE PLAYING TOGETHER AS A UNIT AND THEY KNEW EACH OTHER.
AND THAT'S WHERE THOSE STATE CHAMPIONSHIP, UH, TEAMS CAME FROM.
THEY ORIGINATED FROM THAT LEAGUE OUT AT STANLEY WHITE.
REMEMBER WHEN I WAS ASKING ABOUT THE CARD? THE, UH MM-HMM.
BECAUSE OF WHAT REGGIE AND CURTIS WAS TALKING ABOUT.
WE DON'T WANT TO SEE ANY CHILD NOT THAT LIVES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT BEING ABLE TO USE THE FACILITY BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THAT LITTLE SCAN CARD, OR THEY LOST THAT LITTLE SCAN CARD.
I ACTUALLY, LAST WEEK I HAD SPOKE WITH GENDER ABOUT TRYING TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON OPTIONS AND HOW WE CAN WORK THAT OUT, YOU KNOW, AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY BECAUSE HAVING A GUARDIAN SIGN HIM UP FOR IT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S PART, WE HAVE TO HAVE THAT BECAUSE OF THE LIABILITY.
BUT, UM, WE ARE TRYING TO COME UP WITH CREATIVE WAYS THAT WE CAN DO LIKE A, A SIGNUP WHERE WE GO OUT AND LIKE HELP THE KIDS BE ABLE TO GET SIGNED UP IF THEY HAVE A GUARDIAN THAT CAN SIGN OFF ON IT.
SO WE'RE WORKING ON CREATIVE WAYS TO TRY AND DO THAT.
HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT GETTING WITH THE SCHOOL SYSTEM AND SEEING IF YOU CAN, UM, PARTNER WITH THEM TO GET, ESPECIALLY IN THAT AREA? YOU KNOW, UM, JT BARBER SHRIMP COURT, I MEAN, UH, TRENT PARK, ELEMENTARY OAKS ROAD, UM, THEY HAVE WHAT'S CALLED, I WANT TO SAY IT'S EITHER PEACH OR POND, WHERE THEY, IT'S PEACH'S.
THEY SEND INFORMATION OUT TO THE PARENTS.
SO MAYBE IF WE GET WITH CRAVEN COUNTY SCHOOLS AND SEE IF WE CAN PARTNER WITH THEM ON, UH, AND I'M WILLING TO VOLUNTEER AND HELP.
I'M A HUGS VOLUNTEER TO WHERE WE JUST TAKE ONCE A QUARTER, WE GO TO THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND, AND WE JUST SIGN THE KIDS UP WITH THEIR PARENTS THERE.
I, I'M WILLING TO VOLUNTEER TO DO THAT.
ANY RECOMMENDATIONS YOU HAVE LIKE THAT, THAT YOU THINK WE CAN GET TO THOSE CHILDREN TO BE ABLE TO GET ON CARDS, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WHO ARE YOU REFERRING TO? WE HAVE THESE RED CARDS WHERE, UM, THEY GET PUT IN OUR SYSTEM AND WHENEVER THEY COME IN, THEY SCAN THAT CARD.
SO WE KNOW, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE BEEN IN THE CENTER AND THE WAY TRACK PARENT COME WITH THEIR PARENT NECESSARILY.
UM, I THINK IT IS, THERE'S A CERTAIN AGE THEY CAN COME ALONE MM-HMM.
WHAT'S THE AGE COME ALONG? OH, GRACIOUS.
SO AGAIN, I JUST, I, I, SO I THINK
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WE, WE HAVE A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'RE GONNA BE CHALLENGED WITH OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS IS, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY THE CONTRACT, THE DESIGN, THE DEVELOPMENT, THE PROGRAMMING IS, IS, IS A BIG ONE.AND THEN HENDERSON PARK, UM, AGAIN, CARRIE, I, AND, AND AGAIN, IF YOU WANT TO, IF, IF, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO SAY THIS OTHER THAN SAY IT, LIKE, IF YOU WANT TO REALLY, UM, WIN THE COMMUNITY OVER, IT'S GONNA BE THIS PROGRAM.
BECAUSE THE PROBLEM HAS REALLY BEEN, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE OTHER THINGS OUTTA OUR CONTROL.
BUT THE PROGRAMMING, THE, THE PUBBING OF THE PROGRAMMING, UM, YOUR STAFF MORALE IS, OH MY GOSH.
I MEAN, PEOPLE GOTTA BE HAPPY THAT WORK FOR YOU.
THEY GOTTA LIKE WHAT THEY'RE DOING.
YOU GOTTA FIND PEOPLE THAT WANT TO DO WHAT IT IS THAT THEY'RE DOING.
AND, AND THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE IN THE PAST THAT WILL GO OUT OF THEIR WAY TO GO TO A KID'S HOUSE TO GO SEE THE MOM TO GET THE DOCUMENTS SIGNED.
CAUSE THE MAMA IS NOT GONNA COME UP HERE AND DO IT.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT AIN'T YOUR JOB TO HOLD NOBODY'S HAND.
BUT AGAIN, YOU GOTTA UNDERSTAND, AND FOLKS GOTTA UNDERSTAND WHERE THE COMMUNITY CENTER'S AT AND THE PEOPLE THAT'S AROUND IT AND THE RESOURCES THAT THEY GOT TO BE ABLE TO, TO DO IT.
AND ULTIMATELY YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE PROGRAMS WHERE IT DON'T COST KIDS THAT CAN'T AFFORD IT.
AND, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO BE PROGRAMS THAT ARE GONNA BE GEARED TOWARD, WE LIVE IN A MULTI-GENERATIONAL COMMUNITY.
WE HAVE A LOT OF GRANDPARENTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY RAISING GRANDKIDS.
UM, AND A LOT OF THE PARENTS ARE ABSENT.
UM, SO IT'S MULTI-GENERATIONAL BECAUSE YOU MAY HAVE SOME GRANDCHILDREN LIVING IN THE SAME HOUSE WITH A WHOLE BUNCH OF AUNTS AND UNCLES AND IN ONE MATRIARCH.
UH, YOU KNOW, AND FOR THEM TO BE IN CHARGE TO BE ABLE TO COME AND SIGN THEIR CHILD UP OR SIGN THEIR GRANDCHILD OR THEIR NIECE OR THEIR, OR THEIR NEPHEW UP, THEN YOU START GETTING INTO THE STIPULATIONS OF WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE LEGAL CUSTODY OF THE CHILD, BUT THE UNCLE AND AUNT ARE LIVING THERE IN THE HOUSE.
SO THERE ARE GONNA BE SOME DIFFERENT ROADBLOCKS.
AND OF COURSE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PASSING OUT THE CARDS, THE ID CARDS.
I'M IN FAVOR OF RETINAL SCANNING, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
KIDS COME UP, YOU DO THE RETINAL SCAN, THEY NEVER HAVE TO COME AND GIVE YOU A CARD.
CAUSE UH, ACTUALLY AT, AT ONCE UPON A TIME, IF YOU LIVED IN THE CITY OF LIMITS, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANY ASSESSMENTS ADDED TO THE KIDS OR TO THE ADULTS, BUT ALL OF A SUDDEN SOMEBODY WANT TO DOUBLE DEAL.
CUZ IF, IN, IN MY MIND, IF I'M PAYING TAXES, I ALREADY PAY MY FEE FOR ANY FACILITY IN THE CITY OF NEWBURG.
IF I'M PAYING MY TAXES, THAT'S WHAT'S TAKING CARE OF THAT, THAT FACILITY.
THAT'S WHAT'S PAYING THE WORKERS' FEE, UH, SALARY.
SO WHEN YOU COME BACK AND, AND CHARGE A CHILD ANYWHERE FROM 10 TO $25 A WEEK, THAT'S, THAT'S A BIT OF, YOU KNOW, AND YOU GOT TWO OR THREE CHILDREN, THAT'S A LOT OF MONEY.
AND THEN THAT, THAT'S JUST THE RECREATION.
BUT NOT EVEN COUNTING, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC SCHOOL, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY, THEY GOT FEES.
YOU PLAY FOOTBALL, YOU PLAY BASKETBALL, YOU GOTTA BUY YOUR GEAR, YOU GOTTA BUY YOUR FOOD.
YOU KNOW, SO WE, WE COME UP WITH BETTER WAYS TO DO IT.
I ALWAYS COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF CITY MONEY GOES SUPPOSED TO GO TOWARDS RECREATION.
THEY HAD HAD, WHEN I WAS SMALL, LIKE TALKING NOW, I NEVER WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO PLAY.
NEVER WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO PLAY.
BUT STANDING WHITE ALLOWED ALL US TO COME.
HE WOULD COME AROUND AND PICK PEOPLE UP IN THE BUS OR HE WOULD HAVE, UH, UH, A BIG FIELD THAT WE WOULD ALL MEET IN.
AND HE WOULD WRITE YOUR NAME DOWN IF YOU DIDN'T GET TO THE GYM.
AND THEN HE WOULD ALL YOU, YOU WOULD BE SIGNED UP AND THAT PAPER DES TO YOUR NAME OUT TO A COACH IN, IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT YOU LIVED IN.
AND THAT'S HOW WE NORMALLY PLAY.
AND THEN WE TAKE THE PAPER HOME, YOU CAN TAKE PAPERWORK HOME AND GET THE PARENTS TO SIGN.
YOU KNOW, SOME OF OUR PARENTS WAS ABLE TO MAKE TO A GAME IN SUMMER NIGHT.
OUR GAME PLAYED ON WEDNESDAYS.
AND I THINK MOST OF WEDNESDAYS MIGHT HAVE BEEN TUESDAYS AND THURSDAY, BUT ALL THE LITTLE KIDS, EVERYBODY WAS OUT THERE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU LOOK FORWARD TO.
AND, AND, UH, UH, I ARGUED ABOUT THAT YEARS AGO AND, AND STILL ARGUE ABOUT IT.
THAT'S CALLED, TO ME THAT'S DOUBLE JEOPARDY.
THIS, THIS CITY HERE USED TO HAVE A CHART.
THE CHART HAD HAD THE, THE MAYOR, THE BOARD OF S AND ON THE, UH, BACK THERE WHEN KIMBLE, ALL THE PEOPLE THERE, SOME OF Y'ALL REMEMBER THEM MM-HMM.
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ONE SIDE WOULD BE THE CLERK AND UNDER THE OTHER SIDE OF YOUR BOSS.AND IT SAID RECREATION, YOUR RECREATION WAS THE NUMBER TWO OR NUMBER THREE THINGS IN THIS INTERVIEW.
AND I WAS ABOUT IT ALL THE TIME.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE MONEY WERE GOING AT TO TAKE CARE OF, UH, THE, THE KIDS.
ONLY PEOPLE DID SOMETHING THEN BACK THERE, I THINK WITH THE BABE RUTH LEAGUE, THEY STARTED THE BAYI RUTH LEAGUE IN THE SIXTIES AND THEY STARTED THAT.
AND, AND THOSE KIDS, THEY DIDN'T PAY, THEY DIDN'T REALLY PAY THE, WHAT CAN I SAY? BUSINESSES PUNISHED THEM THE MONEY SO THEY COULD PLAY.
AND THEY WERE NOT PAYING, UH, RENT TO USE THAT, THAT FIELD TO WEST WEST NEWBURN OR TO THE CITY.
AND THAT I KNOW FOR, FOR A FACT, I UNDERSTAND QUESTION DECISION PROGRAMMING AND THE FEES BEHIND THE PROGRAM, ALL FREE FOR THE KIDS.
THERE'S A FEE SCHEDULED THAT'S SET BY THE CITY THAT WE KIND OF GO BY FOR THE PROGRAMS. SO ALL PROGRAMS, UM, YEAH.
SO THE, THE CITY, WHAT, WHO IN THE CITY SETS THEHE TO THE PROGRAM.
THE DEPARTMENT OR THE DIRECTOR FOR PARKS AND RECREATION WOULD RECOMMEND THE FEES.
AND THEN THE BOARD HAS TO APPROVE OR DENY.
SO WHAT I, WHAT I'M, WHAT I'M ASKING AND, AND I THINK THAT WE, WHEN WE PUT THIS TOGETHER, THERE SHOULD BE, IN MY OPINION, SOME TYPE OF, BECAUSE ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE THE PERSON THAT MAKES THE RECOMMENDATION NOW.
SO THERE HAS TO BE SOME TYPE OF PROGRAMMING OR SOME TYPE OF MEDIAN HOUSE INCOME, INCOME OR SOME TYPE OF FINANCIAL, UH, SCALE.
SCALE TO BE ABLE TO SAY, HEY, IF THIS IS UNDER THIS AMOUNT IN THIS HOUSEHOLD, YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GONNA CHARGE THESE PEOPLE FOR THE PROGRAMS THAT WE'RE OFFERING IF IT'S OVER THIS AMOUNT.
BECAUSE I, I, BECAUSE THEN YOU HAVE A STANDARD.
I MEAN, AND I, AND I REALLY THINK THAT YOU CAN, SHOULD CONSIDER THAT.
I BELIEVE BACK IN THE DAY, THERE WERE, I KNOW AT THE Y M C A, THERE USED TO BE SOMETHING WHERE, YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF SOMEONE DIDN'T MAKE OVER A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF MONEY OR YOUR PARENTS DIDN'T, YOU WERE ABLE TO BASICALLY GET A SCHOLARSHIP FOR, TO GO TO THE Y M A.
SO I JUST HOPE THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER PUT IN PLACE.
I'M ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT DOING A SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM FOR SPORTS.
AND I UNDERSTAND LIKE THE FOOTBALL, I UNDERSTAND CARS.
CAUSE UH, YOU KNOW, YOU HAD TO PAY INSURANCE, PAY INSURANCE FOR EACH ONE OF THE TEAMS WE HAD, PLUS THEY HAD TO PAY FOR THE OFFICIALS, WHICH, UH, WHEN WE PLAYED HOME AND, UH, AND THE INSURANCE WASN'T CHEAP.
AND, AND NOW THE EQUIPMENT HAS TO BE RE-CERTIFIED EVERY, I MEAN, SO EVERY FIVE YEARS OR SO.
WELL, IF YOU GET INTO A LEAGUE, YOU'RE GONNA PAY AN INSURANCE.
IF YOU ARE STILL LIKE KENSTON OR LIKE, WE STARTED OFF THE CITY HANDLING.
WE HAD TO BRING IN, WE WERE ASKED TO PAY $2 AND 65 CENTS THERE EACH KID.
AND YOU BROUGHT THAT MONEY IN.
YOU JUST PAID THAT MONEY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BEEN FOR YOUR INSURANCE.
BUT THE, THE, UH, UH, CITY ITSELF COVER YOU DOING THE PART ONE IT CHANGE ONE IS A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT.
HE'S TALKING ABOUT IF IT'S IN HOUSE, IT'S A STRAIGHT OUT FEE INSURANCE.
SO WHEN YOU PAY INSURANCE, YOU PAY, YOU GET YOUR KIDS TOGETHER.
LIKE I USED TO DO, UH, WE HAD A SET, I HAD A SET FEE, $20, THAT'S ALL IT WAS.
AND THEN I HAD SOME SPONSORS SAID, WELL, BEHAR, IF YOU NEEDED HIM ANY HELP, WHATEVER.
I'M KIND OF HARD ABOUT BEGGING PEOPLE FOR ANYTHING.
BUT WHAT I, I, I DID, I GAVE SPONSOR THE NAME OF WHATEVER THEY SAY HOW MANY KIDS YOU WANT, HOW MANY FOR HOW MANY KIDS.
AND IF IT WAS TWO KIDS, THREE KIDS, WHATEVER, EVERY YEAR I PAID FOR SOME OF THEM KIDS TO GO OUT THERE AND WE TURNED NOBODY AWAY.
AND, AND THAT BECAUSE WE WAS AN INDEPENDENT TEAM, WE WAS AN INDEPENDENT, EVEN THOUGH WE IN POP WARNER, NOBODY CONTROLLED US.
WHEN I WAS COACHING AT STANDING WHITE, STANDING WHITE DIDN'T HAVE NO CONTROL OVER ME STANDING WHITE.
THE THE GYM ITSELF HAS NO CONTROL OF, OF THE, THE KIDS THAT REALLY PLAYED UP, THAT POP ONE ASSOCIATION THAT YOU ARE UNDER.
THAT'S WHY IT IS THEY HAVE CONTROL OVER YOU, BUT YOU, YOU USING THEM, THEY'RE USING YOUR PRACTICE AREA AND YOU SAW YOUR, AND THE EQUIPMENT THAT THEY WEAR BACK.
AND THEN WE HAD THE OLD EQUIPMENT.
SO, UH, WHEN, UH, ALLEN SPENCER WAS THERE, HE WAS THE, THE DIRECTOR, ONE OF THE DIRECTORS THERE, ALLEN SPENCER CALLED THE WHAT CALL AND THEY CALLED THE, THE PEOPLE AT PARK WANTED WANT TO CALL ME BACK.
WE BOTH ON THE PHONE AND IT WAS ON THE PHONE.
HE TOLD ALEX SPENCER, WE POP WARNER, WE ARE OVER THERE.
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BUDGET? THE, THE USER FEES? MM-HMM.SO, SO FEES ARE TIED TO YOUR BUDGET? YEAH.
WE START OFF BY HAMBURGERS, PARENTS BRING THE HAMBURGERS AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
BUT FIRST WE HAD TO GET CERTIFIED TO USE THE NEW, THE OLD, UH, NEWBURG HOUSE STADIUM.
WE HAD TO GET CERTIFIED TO DRINK.
AND AFTER WE GOT CERTIFIED TO DO THAT, THE, THE PEOPLE CAME AND INSPECTED AND THE PERSON CAME AND INSPECTED.
THEN THEY HAVE A HOT WATER HEATER PLACED THE LEAK AND EVERYTHING.
WE FIXED ALL THAT UP AFTER WE FIXED IT UP.
BERNARD IS REFERRING TO WHEN, UH, WE RAISED MONEY FOR THE FOOTBALL PROGRAM.
WE FOUND OUT EVERY, ALL THE MONEY WE RAISED HAD TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
OF COURSE, WE WASN'T GUARANTEED TO GET ANY OF THAT MONEY BACK ONCE THEY WENT IN THE GENERAL FUND.
UH, WHAT WE DECIDED, AND WE DID, WE FORMED A BOOSTERS CLUB, GOT OUR TAX ID NUMBER, EVERYTHING WE NEEDED, AND WE FORMED OUR OWN CLUB.
THAT'S HOW WE GOT THE CHANCE TO TRAVEL ALL THE PLACES WE DID, WE RAISED, AND WE HAD A GOOD GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WAS, UH, VOLUNTEERING AND WORKING.
WE GOT OUT AND BEAT THE BUSHES AND, UH, MADE SURE, OKAY, WE WENT TO FLORIDA EVERYWHERE, ATLANTA, YOU KNOW, AND WENT MONIES THAT WE, UH, UH, RAISED OURSELVES.
UH, AND LIKE I SAID, THE CITY FINALLY DID HELP US IN SOME SITUATION.
WE WENT, BUT MOST OF THE STUFF WE DID ON OUR OWN AFTER WITH OUR, UH, BOOSTER CLUB.
SO THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS I NEED TO HEAR ABOUT PROGRAMMING.
DEFINITELY ABOUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE FEE AND THE COST AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE, THE TYPE OF PROGRAMS. SO YOU WANT TO KIND OF PUT THIS IN RIGHT BEFORE YOU, OR I KNOW YOU TOOK SOME NOTES, BUT I TOOK SOME NOTES.
BUT YOU CAN EMAIL ME, LIKE IF YOU WANT TO SEND ME IDEAS ABOUT YOUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU THINK THE PROGRAMS NEED TO LOOK LIKE, OR IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION FROM COMMUNITY MEMBERS ABOUT WHAT THE PROGRAMS NEED TO LOOK LIKE, YOU CAN SEND THEM TO ME.
I'LL START KEEPING US RUNNING SHEET OF THOSE.
AND THAT WAY WHEN I, YOU KNOW, WORK WITH MY STAFF ON DEVELOPING PROGRAMS, WE'LL KNOW THE DIRECTIONS WE NEED TO GO IN.
SO DOES YOUR STAFF HAVE A, A SAY SO IN THE, THE PROGRAM THAT YOU GUYS DO? YEAH.
THEY HELP PLAN 'EM AND PROVIDE OPINIONS.
HAS ANYBODY GOT ANYTHING ELSE? YEP.
SO, SO YOU NOW HAVE, SO FEBRUARY MOVING FORWARD, SO IT'LL BE THE 21ST OR FEBRUARY, CORRECT? THE 21ST.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND TO ADJOURN? THANK YOU MR. STEWART.