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UH, AND YOUR INTRODUCTION AND KNOWLEDGE.[1. Opening of Meeting with Roll Call]
HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION IS CALLED TO ORDER.WILL YOU, UH, DO THE ROLL CALL? CERTAINLY.
ARE THERE MINUTES TO APPROVE? THERE ARE NONE.
I HAVE SOME WORDS OF INTRODUCTION.
UH, FIRST LOOK, WELCOME TO NEW MEMBERS.
APPRECIATE YOU JOINING US, AND, AND YOU'LL BE SITTING IN TONIGHT AND, AND, UH, OBSERVING.
STORE PRESERVATION COMMISSION IS A PUBLIC COMMISSION.
UH, MR. CHAIR, COULD YOU PLEASE, UM, UH, YOU, UH, REQUEST IF THERE ARE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE AGENDA? AH, OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY ADJUSTMENTS TO THE AGENDA? I DO NOT KNOW OF ANY.
[4.A. Hearings: Introduction, Swearing-In, Summary of Process - Introduction of Hearings and Rules of Procedure - Swearing-In of Speakers - Summary of the Hearing Process]
COMMISSION'S, A PUBLIC COMMISSION APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF NEW BURNS BOARD OF ALDERMAN.IT'S RESPONSIBLE, PRESERVING AND SAFEGUARDING NEW BURNS, LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS, DOWNTOWN AND RIVERSIDE, BASED ON US DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, UH, STATE STATUTES, CITY ORDINANCES, AND NEW BIRD'S HISTORIC GUIDELINES.
TWO OF THE MAJOR TASKS THAT THE HBC DOES ARE APPROVING APPLICATIONS FOR A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS AND PREVENTING, UH, AND PREVENTING DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURE.
STUDENT NEGLECT, H HPC HOLDS, UH, QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING ON AN APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE.
APPROPRIATENESS THE COMMISSION HERE SWORN TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, BY PARTIES WHO RECEIVE NOTICE OF THE HEARING BY OTHERS WHO CAN JUSTIFY THAT THEY HAVE RELEVANT EVIDENCE AND ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE APPLICATION.
THE COMMISSION CANNOT CONSIDER COMMENTS BASED ON PERSONAL LIKES, DISLIKES, HEARSAY OR PERSONAL OPINION, UH, THAT CANNOT DIRECTLY BE RELATED TO HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES.
LIKEWISE, THE COMMISSIONER SHALL REFRAIN FROM STATING PERSONAL OPINION, PERSONAL LIKES, DISLIKES, OR HEARSAY DURING THE HEARING.
THE COMMISSION'S DECISION IS BASED SOLELY ON THE TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE PRESENTED AT THE HEARING DIRECTLY RELATING TO HISTORIC GUIDELINES.
WOULD YOU SWEAR IN OUR PRESENTERS? CERTAINLY.
UM, ANYONE WHO INTENDS TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, UH, OR ALREADY SPEAKING THIS EVENING, SWORN AND JUST STAND IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE FOR MOMENT.
THERE'S SIX APPLICATIONS, 3 0 2 RIVERSIDE NORTH AVENUE.
SO, UH, YOU DID TELL ME TO COME.
SO DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE FOR THE FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA, WHICH IS 3 0 5 NORTH AVENUE? OKAY.
MAYBE AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE AGENDA? NO, THEY'RE WITH, UH, THEY'RE, THEY'RE THE 1500 NATIONAL.
POSSIBLE JUST TO MAKE SOME GENERAL COMMENTS.
DURING EACH ONE OF THE, UM, HEARINGS, WE DO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AT THE END.
ARE YOU INTENDING TO SPEAK THIS EVENING? I THINK IT'S ALL OKAY.
PLEASE COME FORWARD AND IF YOUR WIFE WANTS TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYTHING TO SAY.
DO YOU SWEAR TO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE? YES, SIR.
AND THEN IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY, PLEASE SIGN HERE AND ALSO INDICATE YOUR ADDRESS.
WHILE THEY'RE DOING THAT, I'M GOING TO BRIEFLY GO OVER THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING TONIGHT.
AS WE DO EVERY MEETING, THE HC ADMINISTRATOR WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION.
THE APPLICANT, OR THE REPRESENTATIVE PRESENTS THE APPLICATION PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS WHO RECEIVE NOTICE CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE.
REBUTTAL IS ALLOWED BY THE APPLICANT AND BY
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PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS WHO RECEIVE NOTICE.OTHERS WHO CAN JUSTIFY THAT THEY HAVE RELEVANT INFORMATION WILL BE AND WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED, CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE.
HPC ADMINISTRATOR PRESENTS A STAFF AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE APPLICANT HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE ANY FINAL COMMENTS.
THE COMMISSIONERS DISCUSS THE EVIDENCE AND MAY ASK FOR CLARIFICATION, AND I'LL CALL FOR A MOTION AT THAT POINT AND WE'LL HAVE A DISCUSSION AND, AND A VOTE.
WHILE THAT'S STILL CONTINUING, UM, JUST TO NOTE THAT, UH, IN THE PAST WHEN, UH, APPLICANT HASN'T SHOWN UP, UH, WE, UM, UH, MOVE THEM TO LATER ON THE AGENDA.
IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE THAT, UH, PEOPLE SHOW UP AT OUR OFFICE RATHER THAN HERE AT CITY HALL.
WHICH, WHICH ONE IS NOT HERE? THE FIRST ONE.
[4.C. 302 Broad St. (Courthouse) – to include an addition and modifications at the modern Craven St. addition for a new accessible entry and new spaces and covered driveway in the Primary and Secondary AVCs.]
3 0 2 BROAD STREET.I'M GONNA MAKE IT LARGER FOR 3 0 2 BROAD STREET.
UH, THE COURTHOUSE, UH, THEY'VE PROVIDED THE INFORMATION ON THE FORM AND IT IS SIGNED AND DATED BY THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE.
UM, DO WE HAVE THE OWNER HERE AS WELL? YES.
UM, UH, CAN YOU AT LEAST IDENTIFY YOURSELVES, UH, COME ON FORWARD PLEASE AND SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE.
JUST IDENTIFY WHO YOUR NAME AND YOUR RANK AND SERIAL NUMBER.
NO, I'M GENE HODGES, ASSISTANT COUNTY MANAGER WITH CRAVEN COUNTY.
IS ACTION WITH ASSISTANT FACILITIES DIRECTOR OF CRAVEN COUNTY.
SO THE APPLICATION BEGINS WITH PHOTOGRAPHS OF THE EXISTING COURTHOUSE AS WE KNOW IT THERE, AND THEN ALSO, UH, REFERENCE TO THE, UH, MODERN ADDITION THAT IS TO THE, UH, WEST OF THE ORIGINAL.
UM, AND THEN PROCEEDING AROUND TO THE EAST SIDE WHERE, UH, THE PROJECT IS, UH, UH, PROPOSED.
UH, WE CAN SEE ALSO THERE'S A ROUND IN THIS CASE, LOOKS LIKE A TOWER.
UH, THE PROJECT IS TO THE RIGHT OF THAT IN THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, UH, BETWEEN, WELL, IT WILL BE REPLACING THE ROUND TOWER AND THEN, UH, BE ADJACENT TO THE SQUARE TOWER ON THE RIGHT, ESSENTIALLY IN FRONT OF THIS WALL, UH, REPLACING THE RAMP IN THAT AREA.
THERE'S SOME MORE ANGLES OF THAT.
ALSO, IN ADDITION TO THAT, TO THE RIGHT OF THAT SQUARE TOWER IS A RAMP THAT GOES DOWN TO THE GARAGE UNDERNEATH, UM, A ROOF IS PROPOSED OVER THIS AREA.
SO HERE'S AN AERIAL VIEW, UH, CURRENT AERIAL VIEW OF THE, OF THE, UH, PROJECT AREA ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THIS PHOTOGRAPH, AND THEN A RENDERING OF WHAT THE PROPOSAL WILL BE.
SO YOU SEE THERE'S KIND OF A T-SHAPED STRUCTURE THERE INSTEAD OF WHERE THAT ROUND TOWER WAS.
UH, AND THEN IT CONNECTS OVER TO THE SQUARE, UM, I GUESS, UH, WING OF THE, UH, MODERN ADDITION AND THEN ALSO THE RAMPS AND STAIRS OUT FRONT, UH, BETWEEN THE BUILDING AND THE SIDEWALK AND THE, OH, SORRY.
AND THEN THE ROOF OVER THE RAMP TO THE BI TO THE, UH, PARKING IN THE GARAGE IS AROUND THE BACK OF THIS PHOTOGRAPH.
CAN'T SEE IT HERE AROUND THE BACK OF THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF, OF THE BUILDING.
SO HERE'S A MORE, UH, A, A NORMAL PERSONAL PERSON'S EYE VIEW OF THE PROJECT.
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SET THE SECTION OF THE BUILDING ON THE VERY RIGHT HAND SIDE WITH THE LOOKS LIKE BLACK WINDOWS ARE ACTUALLY OPENINGS, UH, THAT IS EXISTING AND IS TO REMAIN.UH, AND THEN, SO THE NEW SECTION IS BETWEEN THAT BUILDING AND THE OLD BUILDING ON THE LEFT.
AND THEN HERE IS THAT, UH, ENCLOSURE FOR THE RAMP TO THE, UM, BASEMENT, UH, PARKING.
UH, IN ADDITION, THERE IS ONE ADDITIONAL SMALL FEATURE HERE, SINCE WE PROBABLY WON'T COME BACK TO THIS, UH, UH, TOO MUCH.
UM, AT THE ENTRANCE OF THE DRIVEWAY, THE RAMP DOWN THERE WILL BE A GATE THAT WILL LIFT UP, UH, RISE OUT OF THE GROUND, UH, AS A FLOOD GATE, UH, SHOULD THE FLOOD WATERS GET TO THAT LEVEL.
SO, UM, HERE, THIS IS NOW A PLAN PLAN VIEW.
UM, NOW WE'LL MAKE THIS, IT SHOWS OVERALL THE BUILDING, AND I'LL MAKE THIS QUITE A BIT LARGER TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
SO, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE ADDITION IS HERE IN THE DARKER ORANGE OR TAN COLOR.
UH, AND IT'S ESSENTIALLY A NEW STAIRWAY ON THE LEFT, A NEW LOBBY IN THE MIDDLE WITH A, A, A NEW ELEVATOR, AND THEN A NEW ROOM ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND THEN THE, UH, NEW ROOF OVER THE EXISTING RAMP HAS SHOWN HERE AND THE FLOOD BARRIER.
AND THEN THE STAIRS AND RAMPS ARE SHOWN IN THE LIGHT COLORED, UH, TAN.
UH, THERE, THE RED SPOT IS SOME SIDEWALK REPAIRS.
AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE ALSO PROPOSING TO, UM, REDO THE, UM, ACTUAL SIDEWALK IN THAT AREA.
AND THEY'RE ADDING A NEW ADA RAMP, UH, AROUND THE FRONT CORNER OF THE, OF THE PROPERTY.
SO THIS IS, UH, ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING, UM, BUT IT IS THE, UM, MORE OF AN ARCHITECTURAL DRAWING, UH, AND LARGER, THIS IS AT THE FOUNDATION LEVEL HERE, AND THEN THE FIRST FLOOR.
UM, AND THERE ARE INTERIOR RENOVATIONS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING AS WELL, BUT THAT'S NOT OUR CONCERN.
OUR CONCERN IS ONLY THE EXTERIOR, ESSENTIALLY THE ADDITION BEING, UH, DONE HERE AND THE STAIRS AND THE RAMP, AND THEN, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR.
AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THESE IF YOU EVER NEED, NEED TO REFERENCE OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT.
UH, THIS IS THE, UM, OUR INTERNAL ZONING AND INSPECTIONS REVIEW FORM FOR THIS.
AND IT PROVIDES ALL THE ZONING INFORMATION, RELEVANT ZONING INFORMATION, AND THERE'S A SIGNATURE BY OUR, UH, ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
AND HIS COMMENT, IT SAYS THAT IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USE ORDINANCE AND THE SETBACKS MUST COMPLY WITH CITY CODE SECTION 15 4 16.
AND THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR INDICATED THAT IT WILL, OF COURSE, REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.
AND THEN, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATIONS ARE AVAILABLE WHEN YOU'RE READY.
DOES THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS? UH, HAVE COMMENTS AND QUESTIONS? OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS? I'M SORRY, DID YOU SAY YOU HAVE SOME COMMENTS AT THIS POINT? I DON'T HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT SHE HAVE.
ARE THERE, UH, PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS TO THE PROJECT WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED WHO HAVE STATUS? HEARING NONE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO HAS STATUS WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT ON THIS? OKAY.
LET'S HEAR THE RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THESE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE, UM, APPLICANT, UH, CRAVEN COUNTY AND OAKLEY COLLIER ARCHITECTS FOR THE PROJECT AT 3 0 2 BROAD STREET.
IT'S THE, UH, HISTORIC PROPERTY NAME IS CRAVEN COUNTY COURTHOUSE, UH, INITIALLY BUILT IN 1883 AND THEN REMODELED 1915.
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UH, IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.UH, THE NATIONAL REGISTER INVENTORY DESCRIPTION, THAT'S, UH, IS THAT, IT IS THE SECOND EMPIRE STYLE BRICK, TWO AND A HALF STORIES, SLOAN AND BALDERSON OF PHILADELPHIA ARCHITECTS, ARCHED WINDOWS FOUR-STORY ENTRANCE TOWER AND MANSUR SLATE, RUTH FOR THE SANDECK, UH, DESCRIPTION, UH, FROM HIS, UH, BOOK IN 1988.
UH, I'VE PULLED OUT OF THE TWO PAGE, UM, SECTION ON THIS, UH, THE RELEVANT PIECES.
UH, IT IS NEW BERN'S LARGEST AND MOST LAVISHLY, ORNAMENTED SECOND EMPIRE STYLE BUILDING.
WHEN COMPLETED IN 1883, THE FRONT WAS ALONG CRAVEN STREET AND DOMINATED BY A THREE AND A HALF STORY SQUARE TOWER.
THE WALLS OF THE COURTHOUSE ARE OF CAREFUL RUNNING BOND BRICKWORK DECORATED WITH HORIZONTAL BANDS OF DARK BRICK.
EACH BAY IS DISTINGUISHED BY SLIGHTLY PROJECTING PILASTERS.
THE LARGE RECESS PANELS BETWEEN THE PILASTERS ARE CAPPED BY TOOTH AND CORBAL BRICKWORK MOLDED AND CORBAL BRICKWORK SUPPORTS THE OVERHANGING, BRACKETED CORNICE.
THE WINDOW AND DOOR OPENINGS ARE CAPPED BY EXCEPTIONAL EAST LAKE STYLE CAST.
IRON LENTILS IS REMODELED IN 1958, RESULTING IN THE DESTRUCTION OF MUCH ORIGINAL FABRIC.
A LARGE MODERN JAIL COMPLEX HAS BEEN ADDED TO THE NORTH MARRING, THE VISUAL QUALITY OF THE ORIGINAL CONSTRUCTION AND DETAILING OF THE CRAVEN COUNTY COURTHOUSE.
SO THIS IS FOR A PROJECT WITH THREE 20 BROAD STREET TO INCLUDE AN ADDITION AND MODIFICATIONS AT THE MODERN CRAVEN STREET ADDITION FOR A NEW ACCESSIBLE ENTRY AND NEW SPACES AND COVERED DRIVEWAY IN THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ABCS.
SO STAFF SUBMITS THE FOLLOWING HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES ARE APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN 2.1, 0.12, 0.1 0.2, AND 2.1 0.3 FOR UTILITIES.
2.3 0.1 FOR SIGNAGE, 2.8 0.1 2.8 0.2 2.8 0.4 FOR DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 3.1, 0.1, 3.1 0.2 3.1 0.3 3.1 0.4, AND 3.1 0.5 FOR MODIFICATIONS.
3.3 0.1 3.3 0.2 3.3 0.3 FOR FOUNDATIONS.
4.1 0.6 FOR ROOFS, 4.5 0.6 FOR ACCESSIBILITY AND LIFE SAFETY.
RATE 5.1 0.2 5.1 0.5 FOR METALS, 5.3 0.3 5.3 0.4 PER PAIN, 5.4 0.2 5.4 0.35, 0.4 0.4, AND 5.4 0.6 FOR CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 0.2 AND 5.5 0.3.
THE STATEMENTS OF REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION OBTAINED IN THE APPLICATION IN STAFF'S JUDGMENT ARE ONE, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE DENSE FABRIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE PROPOSAL IS AN ADDITION AND MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.
FOUR, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.
AND FIVE, THE PROJECT IS NOT INC, IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE AN ADDITION TO MODIFICATIONS OF THE MODERN CRA STREET EDITION FOR A NEW ACCESSIBLE ENTRY AND NEW SPACES AND COVERED DRIVEWAY IN THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ABCS.
FURTHER THERE, QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS FROM THE COMMISSION.
JUST A NOTE, YOU SAID THREE 20 BROAD AND IT'S WRITTEN AS THREE 20.
IT'S 3 0 2 OH, DID I SAY THREE 20? SORRY.
AND, AND A QUESTION ABOUT SIGNAGE.
UM, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING ABOUT SPECIFIC SIGNAGE, BUT I ASSUME THAT'LL COME ALONG LATER.
IS A SECOND SIGNAGE AND JUST SOMETHING WOULD GO TO THE ADMINISTRATOR.
THERE WAS, UH, SIGN ON THE RENDERING, SO I ASSUME THERE WOULD BE ONE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OH, UM, SO WHEN YOU RESPOND, YOU'LL HAVE TO COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE SIGNAGE QUESTIONS.
THERE WILL BE SOME SIGNAGE ON THE BUILDING, UM, AS SHOWN THE RENDERING.
THERE'LL BE A COUNTY SEAL AND THEN THE VERBIAGE FOR THE ENTRANCE, UH, SO EVERYBODY KNOWS WHERE THEY'RE COME INTO A BUILDING.
JUST WOULD BE GOOD TO GIVE IT TO THE ADMINISTRATOR AS YOU, OKAY.
SO DAVID, BEFORE YOU GET AWAY, I, I THINK IT'S MAYBE IMPORTANT TO RECAP A LITTLE BIT OF OUR DISCUSSION FROM DESIGN REVIEW ABOUT CONTEXT AND HOW THIS AESTHETIC RELATES TO THE JAIL PORTION OF THE BUILDING.
KIND OF WALK THROUGH THE CONCEPT.
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I, I, THAT'D BE FINE.UM, AND, AND ALSO I I FOR THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE GOT A VERY HISTORIC BUILDING WITH, UH, VERY MODERN ADDITION.
AND FOR THOSE UNFAMILIAR WITH HOW WE OPERATE, THERE MAY BE SOME, UH, NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY YOUR FENESTRATION LOOKS THE WAY IT DOES, GIVEN THE HISTORIC CONTEXT.
UM, I GUESS FOR THE, THE PROJECT IS THE CHALLENGE WAS TO PUT IN A NEW STAIR AND ELEVATOR TO MAKE THE BUILDING ACCESSIBLE.
AS, UM, AS MAN HAS SAID, THE BUILDING IS, UH, MULTIPLE GENERATIONS OF STRUCTURES.
THE, UH, SECTION OF THE STRUCTURE WE'RE WORKING ON IS THE 1980S, UH, ORIGINALLY BUILT AS AN INSTITUTIONAL, I GUESS THE JAIL FOR THE COUNTY.
IT IS NOW CURRENTLY THE EMERGENCY OPERATIONS CENTER FOR THE COUNTY, ALONG WITH SOME OTHER, UH, FUNCTIONS THAT ARE GOING IN ON THE UPPER FLOORS.
UM, AFTER THE FLOOD, IT WAS, UH, OBVIOUS THAT WE HAD TO GET OFF THE GROUND FLOOR, WHICH LEFT US WITH A SOMEWHAT INACCESSIBLE BUILDING.
SO THAT LED TO THE NEW ADDITION WITH A, UH, THE FAIRLY LENGTHY RAMP INSTEAD OF STAIRS TO GET US UP TO, UM, WHAT WILL BE THE NEW ENTRANCE TO THE, UM, EOC AND A NEW SECURITY CHECKPOINT FOR THE BACKSIDE OF THE COURTHOUSE.
UM, I KNOW IF ANY ANYBODY'S BEEN THROUGH THE STRUCTURE, IT IS, UM, WE'RE CHOOSING TO LEAVE THE ORIGINAL COURTHOUSE ALONE CAUSE IT'D BE JUST TOO CHALLENGING TO TRY TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE ISSUES THERE IN THAT STRUCTURE.
SO WE'RE GONNA DO IT ON THE 1980S STRUCTURE, WHICH WILL GIVE THE COUNTY AND THE PUBLIC ACCESS TO ALL OF THEIR COUNTY BUILDINGS VIA THIS ENTRANCE ELEVATOR.
THAT GETS US TO THE MULTI FLOORS, WHICH WE HAVE SOME CHALLENGES NOW.
SO WE'RE SOLVING, UM, QUITE A FEW ADA SCENARIOS AND REMEDIES, ALL WITH THIS ONE LITTLE EDITION.
THE STYLE OF IT IS TRYING TO, UH, NOT COMPETE WITH THE ORIGINAL COURTHOUSE AT ALL, BUT TO KIND OF IMPROVE THE 1980S VERSION OF THE STRUCTURE THAT WENT THERE AND TO MAKE IT A VERY IDENTIFIABLE ENTRANCE TO WHEN THE PUBLIC APPROACHES, THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY'RE TRYING TO COME AND GO ON THIS BUILDING, AS I SAID, DOWNTOWN, UM, WITH ALL THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES, THIS, UH, NOT INTENDED TO COMPETE WITH THE EXISTING BUILDING, BUT ENHANCE REALLY THE 1980S AND IMPROVE THAT SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE DOWN THERE.
THAT COVERS ALL YEAH, I THINK SO.
AND, AND, AND THE MATERIALS PROPOSED FOR USE.
UH, THE BRICK IS TO MATCH THE EXISTING 1980S, UM, STRUCTURE.
UM, BUT THERE'S A VARIETY OF BRICKS ON THE OLD COURTHOUSE.
WE'RE GONNA CHOOSE TO MATCH THAT, AND WE'RE GONNA INTRODUCE A LITTLE MORE PRECAST THAN THAT IS THERE NOW.
CAUSE THAT IS, UM, AS A LITTLE MORE TRADITIONAL FLAVOR TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
UH, THE GLAZING SYSTEM WILL BE A STOREFRONT SYSTEM.
ALSO MORE OF THE FLAVOR OF THE 1980S STRUCTURE.
AND, UM, I THINK THAT'S ABOUT IT FOR MATCHING MATERIALS.
THERE WILL BE A BRIEF CANOPY, UH, SMALL CANOPY RIGHT OVER THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
WE'LL PROBABLY DO SOMETHING ON THE BLACK STEEL AND IRON, WHICH IS ALSO A MATERIAL ALREADY ON THE ORIGINAL PORTHOUSE AND SOMETHING WE CAN KEEP CONTINUING WITH THE ADDITION TO TRY TO BLEND IT IN.
DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? WHERE IS, UH, A RAMP FOR SOMEBODY IN A WHEELCHAIR? IS THAT OVER THERE TO THE RIGHT? IS THAT A RAMP GOING UP THERE TO THE YEAH, THE RIGHT SIDE? UM, WE'RE HAVING TO TRAVERSE ABOUT EIGHT FEET OF GRAVE.
SO THAT RIGHT SIDE OF THE STAIRS IS ABOUT 80 LINEAR FEET OF RAMP THAT, UH, YOU GO BACK AND FORTH TO GET UP TO THE MAIN ENTRANCE.
WE'RE STAYING WITH THE BRICK AND THE RAILING SYSTEM KIND OF TO MATCH THE BUILDING, SHOWING DOWN.
AND, UH, WHICH WAS OUR CHALLENGE ON THE FACILITY.
WE HAD VERY LITTLE LAND TO WORK WITH.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO, UH, GET UP TO THAT LEVEL VERY STEEPLY WITH VERY LITTLE LAND WE HAVE THERE.
AS YOU SEE, UH, THE EXISTING RIGHT SIDE IS EXISTING TOWER.
THEY'VE ALREADY HAVE, UH, PAINTED STEEL, UM, AND THERE'S OPENINGS FROM THE OLD, UH, JAIL DAYS.
THERE'S A BRONZE FRAME STOREFRONT GLAZING, WHICH WE WILL TRY TO MATCH, WHICH, UH, MY RENDERING'S SHOWING CLEAR, BUT IT'LL BE REALLY MATCHING THAT EXISTING.
UH, WE'RE SHOWING A COUNTY SEAL, ITS LOCATION, UH, WILL POSSIBLY GET MOVED TO THAT UPPER PRECAST, UH, FOR A LITTLE MORE VISIBILITY AND PROBABLY SOME SIGNAGE RIGHT THERE AT THE GROUND LEVEL TO HELP, UH, MORE WAYFINDING SIGNAGE.
SO AS YOU APPROACH IT FROM THE PARKING LOT, YOU KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU'RE TRYING TO GO TO FOR THE FACILITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 3 0 2 BROAD STREET TO BE NOT IN CONGRESS WITH NEW BURNS.
CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTION 15 4 11 TO 15 4 29 AND NEW BURNS.
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HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS OF FACT DEVELOPMENT.PATTERN 2.1, 0.12 AND THREE, UTILITIES, 2.3 0.1, SIGNAGE, 2.8 0.12 AND FOUR.
DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 3.1, 0.1, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE.
MODIFICATIONS, 3.2 0.2 ADDITIONS, 3.3 0.1, TWO AND THREE FOUNDATIONS, 4.1 0.6, ROOFS, 4.5 0.6.
ACCESSIBILITY, 4.7 0.3, MASONRY, 5.1 0.2, AND 5.1 0.5, EXCUSE ME, METALS, 5.3 0.3 AND FOUR, PAINT 5.4, 0.23, FOUR AND SIX.
AND CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 0.2 AND THREE.
FINDINGS OF FACT ARE THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE DENSE FABRIC DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE PROPOSAL IS AN ADDITION AND MODIFICATION TO AN EXISTING CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.
THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF BUILDING, INSPECTOR, EXCUSE, EXCUSE ME, CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.
AND FINALLY, THE PROJECT IS NOT IN CONGRESS WITH THE GUIDELINES, SIR.
MOTION HAS BEEN MADE AND SECONDED.
OPPOSED? HEARING NONE APPROVED.
ENTERTAIN A MOTION FOR A ISSUANCE OF COA.
THANK YOU ALL FOR, FOR YOUR TIME.
[4.D. 1206 N. Pasteur St. – to include a front door and sidelights replacement and expand the gravel parking area, all in the Primary, Secondary, and Tertiary AVCs.]
APPRECIATE IT.ALRIGHT, UH, FOR PESTOS THREE.
ALRIGHT, SO THIS IS THE APPLICATION FOR 1206 NORTH PEOR STREET.
UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'VE PROVIDED, UH, THE INFORMATION ON ATTACHED DOCUMENTS AND OTHERWISE NOTATED ON THE SECOND PAGE AND SIGNED AND DATED.
AND THESE ARE SOME OF THOSE ATTACHED DOCUMENTS THAT YOU, UH, MAY HAVE REVIEWED THAT WILL NOT BE REVIEWING THEM VERBATIM.
UM, IN THIS CASE, IT REFERENCES THE FRONT DOOR.
THE BACK DOOR IS NOT PART OF THIS APPLICATION.
UH, UH, WAS REMOVED AFTER THE, UH, DESIGN REVIEW MEETING, UH, TO BECOME A MINOR WORK.
UH, SO THIS IS THE FRONT DOOR, UH, IN QUESTION, UH OH.
AND, UH, THE ATTACHED DOCUMENTS ALSO REFERENCE THE DR THE DRIVEWAY, WHICH COME UP LATER.
UH, SO THIS IS THE FRONT DOOR IN QUESTION.
IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING, UH, TWO WEEKS AGO, WE WERE ASKED WHY WE THOUGHT THIS FRONT DOOR WAS AN INTERIOR DOOR.
THE PREVIOUS PICTURES ARE, NOW I HAVE THEM LOCATED.
UH, THE FOLLOWING PICTURES WE HAVE PROVIDED ARE ALL INTERIOR DOORS THAT ARE THE SAME STYLE AS OUR FRONT DOOR PICTURED HERE.
OUR FRONT DOOR MEASURES AN INCH AND THREE EIGHTS VERSUS AN EXTERIOR DOOR THAT TYPICALLY MEASURES AN INCH AND THREE QUARTERS.
SO I'M GONNA HAVE, THIS IS THE FIRST, UH, THE FIRST OF THE, UH, DOORS THAT THEY PRESENT.
UM, AND LET'S GO BACK A SECOND TO THIS ONE.
UM, NOTING IT HAS THE, UH, THREE PANELS AT THE BOTTOM AND THE, AND THE SINGLE PANE TOWARDS THE TOP.
THERE IS ANOTHER PANEL ABOVE THE WINDOW.
AND THIS WINDOW ALSO HAS, UH, TWO SMALL SILLS AT THE BOTTOM AND THE TOP.
BUT HERE WE HAVE, AGAIN, THREE PANELS AND A SINGLE WINDOW.
ANOTHER ONE WITH SINGLE, UH, THREE PANELS AND A SINGLE WINDOW.
ANOTHER ONE, THREE PANELS WITH A SINGLE WINDOW.
ANOTHER ONE, SAME THREE PANELS, AND A WINDOW WITH THE TRANSOM.
UH, NOW I'LL MAKE THESE LARGER.
THESE ARE PHOTOS FROM THE ACTUAL DOOR, UH, SHOWING, UH, MANY OF THE, UH, BAD CONDITIONS, I GUESS YOU MIGHT SAY,
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OF THE DOOR.AND THEN, UH, POINTED OUT, UH, WITH THE, UH, ARROWS.
SOME DIMENSIONS ON THIS DOOR TO SHOW, UM, DIFFERENT DIMENSIONS ON DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE DOOR.
UM, CONDITION TO LOWER RIGHT OF THE DOOR.
ON THE LOWER LEFT, SOME DAYLIGHT COMING THROUGH THE DOOR ON THE RIGHT, IT LOOKS LIKE SEPARATION OF PARTS.
SO HERE, THEIR EXPLANATION OR THEIR, UM, NARRATIVE.
THE REASONING FOR US TO, UH, NOT TRYING TO REPAIR OUR FRONT DOOR IS THAT IT NEEDS TO BE COMPLETELY DISASSEMBLED AND PUT BACK TOGETHER.
AS POINTED OUT IN ONE OF THE PICTURES ABOVE THE DOOR IS NOT SQUARE, EVEN IF IT WAS COMPLETELY REBUILT, SOMEONE HAS CUT THE TOP AND BOTTOM TO FIT THESE SIDELIGHTS IN THE PAST AND OR WHAT OTHER APPLICATION IT WAS IN.
INSIDE IS 82 AND FIVE EIGHTS HANDLE SIDE IS 82 AND THREE QUARTERS.
THE TOP MEASURES 36 INCHES, AND THE BOTTOM MEASURES 36 AND A QUARTER.
THIS DOOR HAS SCREWS ON THE BACKSIDE HOLDING THE PANELS TOGETHER, AND A WEATHER STRIP AT THE BOTTOM TO KEEP THE DOOR FROM COMING APART.
I THINK THE, UH, PHOTO, UH, ONE OF THE EARLIER PHOTOS WHERE IT WAS POINTING AT A BUNCH OF DOTS MUST BE, UH, WHERE THE SCREWS ARE IN OUR PREVIOUS MEETING WHEN THE COUNCIL MEMBER SUGGESTED CLOSING IN THE SIDELIGHTS AND TRY TO REUSE THE FRONT DOOR UNDER GREAT CONSIDERATION.
WE PREFER NOT TO DO THIS SUGGESTION DUE TO HAVING TO MOVE THE ELECTRICAL FOR THE FRONT STOOP LIGHT AND ALL THE SIDING WORK THAT WILL HAVE TO BE DONE, THAT WILL MAKE THIS LOOK PRESENTABLE FROM THE STREET.
THE DOOR WILL HAVE TO BE COMPLETELY DISASSEMBLED AND WILL HAVE TO BE BUILT BACK WITHOUT MAJOR DAMAGE.
THIS WILL TAKE SEVERAL WEEKS FOR A CUSTOM CRAFTSMAN TO COMPLETE.
THIS PROVIDES A SECURITY ISSUE TO OUR HOME, NOT HAVING ACCESS TO OUR HOME FOR SEVERAL WEEKS.
DUE TO THIS BEING THE ONLY ACCESS TO UNIT A, BEING A STEWARD OF THIS HISTORIC HOME, HISTORICAL HOME, WE WOULD NOT LIKE TO CHANGE THE STREET PROFILE FOR THE COMMUNITY AND OR PASSERS BY PASS PASSER BUYERS.
OUR PROPOSAL IS TO REPLACE SIDELIGHTS AND DOOR WITH THE DOOR UNIT WE PROVIDED.
THIS WILL ENSURE WE CAN INSTALL IT IN ONE DAY, AND THIS WILL KEEP OUR PROPERTY SAFE AND SECURE.
OUR GOAL IS TO PRESERVE THE HISTORY OF OUR HOME, BUT IN DOING SO, WE WANT TO MAKE IT AS ENERGY EFFICIENT AND SAFE AS POSSIBLE.
THE TINDELL FAMILY HAS BEEN IN THE NEWBURN AREA FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS.
OUR MISSION IS TO PRESERVE THIS HOUSE FOR MANY GENERATIONS TO ENJOY.
MY GRANDFATHER RETIRED FROM THE, UH, MA MEOLA PLANT, HEAD OF CHOCOLATE MILK AND ICE CREAM.
MY UNCLE CLOSED DOWN, CRAVE A FOUNDRY, WORKING THERE FOR OVER 15 YEARS.
MY DAD WORKED AT THE ICE PLANT IN HIS TEENAGE YEARS IN THE SIXTIES.
FEWER FROM THIS AREA, YOU KNOW THAT ALL THESE LOCATIONS ARE TWO BLOCKS FROM NORTH PASTOR STREET.
OUR GOAL IS TO KEEP THE EDWARD LEGIS HOME FUNCTIONAL FOR MANY YEARS TO COME.
WE'RE DOING EXTENSIVE FOUNDATION WORK, WHICH IS MOST IMPORTANT, AND TRYING TO MAKE IT ONCE AGAIN, ENERGY EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CAREFUL REVIEW.
SO THERE ARE MORE PHOTOGRAPHS.
UM, SEE SOME LIGHT COMING THROUGH.
UH, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS, UH, SIDE LIGHTS, NOT THE DOOR ITSELF.
UH, SO WE HAVE CRACKS AND TAPE, UH, FOR THE SIDELIGHTS.
AND THIS IS THE PROPOSED DOOR.
I HAVE TO MAKE THIS FULL SIZE.
THIS IS THE PROPOSED DOOR AND SIDELIGHTS.
IT IS, UM, A, UH, WOOD CONSTRUCTION, OR AT LEAST, UH, IT SAYS IT'S LIGHT OAK JAM FINISH.
UH, THE DOOR FINISHES LIGHT OAK.
UH, AND THEN THEY PROVIDED SOME, UH, END OF YOU, OF THE END OF THE, UM, THE FRAMING.
AND THEN, UH, THE TOP OF THE DOOR, UH, THAT WAS THE BACK DOOR.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SI UH, THE DRIVEWAY, UH, PROPOSAL.
UH, THEY WOULD CURRENTLY LIKE TO, UH, PUT GRAVEL IN THIS
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AREA HERE, OUTLINED AND WHITE PROBABLY MAKE THIS LARGER, UH, IN THIS LOCATION.UH, AND THE LENGTH OF THE DRIVEWAY TO THE SIDEWALK IS 41 FEET, UH, 20 FEET WIDE AT THE TOP 18 FEET TO THE PROPERTY LINE TO THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, 65 FEET TO THE BACK FENCE.
AND THE DRIVEWAY MATERIAL WILL BE 57 STONE.
THE DRIVEWAY WILL BE BORDERED WITH BRICK.
THERE IS NO SIDEWALK TO THE BACK DOOR.
WE ARE KEEPING THE ORIGINAL PLATFORM JUST ADDING PARKING SPACE.
I'M NOT REMOVING ANY TREES IN THE DRIVEWAY.
WILL NOT BE ATTACHED OR TOUCHING THE HOME.
UH, THEY HAVE SEVERAL THIS, UH, LAYOUT IN FROM SEVERAL ANGLES.
WE WANT TO DISCUSS ANY OF THOSE.
ALSO, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DIMENSIONS, THEY'RE PAINTED RIGHT ON THE GROUND.
UM, AND THIS WAS ONE OF THE OTHER ATTACHMENTS REGARDING, UH, FOR THE APPLICATION FOR THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE PROJECT.
UM, AND THIS IS THE SKETCH THAT THEY PROVIDED, UM, LAST TIME, UH, WHICH, UH, IS STILL, UH, THE SAME, I BELIEVE, DESIGN AS IT WAS BEFORE, FOR SAME DESIGN AS IT IS NOW.
UH, WE HAVE OUR ZONING AND INSPECTIONS, UH, REVIEW.
AND SO FROM ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF LAND USE ORDINANCE.
AND FOR THE BUILDING INSPECTOR, THE, UH, FRONT DOOR AND THE DRIVEWAY WILL NOT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.
AND THEN OTHERWISE WE'RE READY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THE PRESENTATION? UM, JUST THE, THE SIZE.
CAN YOU COME CUT? UH, THE ORIGINAL, UH, SKETCH, WE ACTUALLY SCALED DOWN THE DRIVEWAY A LITTLE BIT.
UH, ORIGINALLY WE WERE GONNA HAVE IT GO TO THE HOUSE, BUT IT, WE JUST KEPT THE ORIGINAL, UM, DRIVEWAY.
ARE THERE PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS, UH, FOR THE PROJECT IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED TO HAVE STATUS? SEEING NONE, UH, ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS THINKS I HAVE RE RELEVANT INFORMATION? HEARING NONE, WOULD YOU PRESENT YOUR RECOMMENDATION? CERTAINLY.
MAKE THIS AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT LARGER, NOT WORK.
UH, THIS IS A PROJECT FOR JEREMY AND KELLY TYNDALL AT 1206 NORTH PASTOR STREET.
THE HISTORIC PROPERTY NAME AND DATE IS THE EDWARD LAGA HOUSE.
IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE IN THE HISTORIC DISTRICT.
UH, THE NATIONAL REGISTER INVENTORY DESCRIPTION FOR THIS, UH, FROM 2003 IS, UH, EDWARD LEG.
GALE IS LISTED AT THIS LOCATION IN 1910 AS THE FOREMAN OF A DRY KILN.
THE NEARLY SQUARE MAIN BLOCK IS TOPPED BY A PYRAMIDAL ASPHALT GROUP, AND THERE IS A SMALL HIP GROUP, ONE STORY WING ON THE NORTHWEST ELEVATION.
THE ONE STORY PORCH, WHICH SPANNED THE THREE BAY FACADE AND CONTINUED ALONG THE SOUTHEAST ELEVATION, HAS BEEN COMPLETELY ENCLOSED WHILE THE SMALL PORCH ON THE WING HAS BEEN REMOVED.
WINDOWS ARE TWO, TWO SASH AND A CORPORAL CHIMNEY IS LOCATED ON THE REAR ROOF SLOPE.
UH, AND SANDECK HAD NO DESCRIPTION OF THE HOUSE.
SO THIS IS REGARDING 1206 NORTH PASTOR STREET TO INCLUDE A FRONT DOOR AND SIDELIGHTS REPLACEMENT AND EXPAND THE GRAVEL PARKING AREA ALL IN THE PRIMARY, SECONDARY, AND TERTIARY ABCS.
HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES ARE APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR PARKING, 2.7, 0.1, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR FOR DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 3.12 AND FOUR FOR MODIFICATIONS, 3.2, 0.1, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR ENTRANCES, 4.4 0.1, AND TWO.
SO A STATEMENT'S A REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION AND STAFF'S JUDGMENT ARE ONE, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE TIGHT LEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
TWO, THE PROPOSAL IS MODIFICATIONS TO AN EXISTING CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE PLUS A DRIVEWAY THREE DUE TO FAILURE TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF GUIDELINES.
3.2, 0.2 3.2 0.3, AND 3.2 0.4.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS OF THE FRONT DOOR DO NOT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS OF THE DRIVEWAY PORTION OF THE APPLICATION DO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.
FOUR, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL, HAVE REVIEWED
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THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.AND FIVE, THE FRONT DOOR PORTION OF THE APPLICATION IS INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.
AND THE DRIVEWAY PORTION OF THE APPLICATION IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION FOR THE PROPOSED DRIVEWAY IN THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ABCS, AND TO DENY OR LEAVE OUT THE PORTION REGARDING THE FRONT DOOR AND SIDELIGHTS REPLACEMENT IN THE PRIMARY ABC.
QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? WELL, WELL JUST TO, UH, AGAIN, RECAP SOME OF OUR DESIGN REVIEW DISCUSSION.
I DIDN'T SEE ANY REFERENCE TO THE WINDOWS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
SO I I'M ASKING YOU TO CONFIRM THAT WE'RE GOING TO REPAIR THOSE AT THIS POINT.
YEAH, BUT I'VE ALREADY SPOKE WITH THEM AND WE'RE GONNA, UH, GET THOSE BACK TO WHEREVER.
I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE SOME
BUT I'LL MAKE 'EM THE WAY THEY WERE.
WELL, WE APPRECIATE THAT, AND THAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO.
UM, SO THEN I, I GUESS THE, THE NEXT QUESTION I, I HAVE OR, OR, OR MAYBE COMMENT, UM, WE, WE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FRONT DOOR.
I THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, UH, SINCE DESIGN REVIEW.
UM, I, I SEE YOU STILL WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THE REPLACEMENT WITH THE OAK FINISH DOOR, AND I'M GONNA CALL IT A PRODUCTION DOOR FOR, FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM.
I, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED THAT DOESN'T, UM, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE WITH FENESTRATION OF THE HOUSE AND ITS AGE.
UM, AND, AND SO TO, TO HELP US MAYBE HAVE THAT CONVERSATION A LITTLE FURTHER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COMMISSIONERS FEEL THE SAME OR, UM, HAVE OTHER COMMENTS.
I'M ON PAGE SIX DASH ONE UNDER PRESERVATION IN THE GUIDELINES AND JUST PARAPHRASING, UM, PRESERVE AND RETAIN HISTORIC MATERIAL, RETAINED DOORS, WINDOWS, AND BALLAST TRADES, UM, IF YOU PREFERENCE, UH, SHOULD BE GIVEN TO REPAIRING HISTORIC MATERIAL VERSUS REPLACING HISTORIC MATERIAL.
AND, AND SO YOU'VE MADE AN ARGUMENT THAT THE DOOR IS NOT REPAIRABLE.
THAT'S WHY YOU WANT TO REPLACE IT WITH THE PRODUCTION DOOR.
AND, AND THEN LASTLY, IF YOU DO HAVE TO REPLACE SOMETHING, UM, THE GUIDELINES, THE NARRATIVE GOES ON TO SAY CUSTOM FABRICATE REPLICAS AND RECONSTRUCTIONS WITH THE SPACING, PROPORTION, DIMENSION, CROSS SECTION AND PROFILE OF, OF THE, THE TEMPLATE OR THE ORIGINAL.
AND, AND SO I GUESS THAT LAST SENTENCE, I, I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHERE WE ARE, YOU KNOW, BASED ON WHERE WE LEFT OUR CONVERSATION AT DESIGN REVIEW, WHICH, UM, TIES BACK TOGETHER MY OPENING COMMENT WHERE I'M, I'M NOT SURE THAT FENESTRATION OF THE DOOR, I, IT, IT'S TOO DIFFERENT FROM WHAT WAS THERE BEFORE WHERE IT, IT'S NOT COMPATIBLE IN MY OPINION, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE FENESTRATION OF THE REMAINDER OF THE HOUSE.
AND, AND SO, UH, I JUST SHARED THAT FOR CONVERSATION.
ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS? WELL, THE, UH, IF, IF YOU LOOK AT, UH, THE HISTORIC STRUCTURES IN RIVERSIDE OF THAT TIME PERIOD, UH, EARLY 19 HUNDREDS, WHICH IS WHERE MOST OF THE HOUSES ON AVENUE A AND THEN COMING UP A LITTLE BIT ON NORTH PASTURE, UH, THERE ARE NO, THERE ARE NO DOORS EVEN SIMILAR TO THAT.
THERE ARE A LOT OF ORIGINAL DOORS LEFT ON AVENUE A, UH, THE OAK FINISH.
MOST OF THE DOORS ARE, ARE PAINTED OR STAINED DARK COLOR.
SO THE, THE PROPOSED REPLACEMENT DOOR DOESN'T, UM, DOESN'T REALLY MATCH ANY OF THE HISTORIC CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES, UH, IN THE SURROUNDING AREA.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT AS A WHOLE, THERE REALLY AREN'T ANY DOORS ON LIGHT LIKE THAT ON THE CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURES.
WELL, UH, RESTORING A DOOR IS NOT SOMETHING UNUSUAL FOR THE RESTORATION OF A HISTORIC CAR.
THAT'S MY ONLY COMMENT THAT, THAT YEAH.
IT, IT DOES REQUIRE A CRAFTSMAN, BUT, UH, IT'S NOT SOMETHING INCONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'VE ASKED FOR IN THE PAST.
I, I THINK AT THIS POINT, YOU, YOU SEE THERE'S SOME, UH, CONCERN ABOUT THE, THE PROJECT IN THAT PIECE OF THE PROJECT.
UH, I THINK AN ALTERNATIVE WOULD BE TO
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WITHDRAW THAT PARTICULAR PIECE AND GO AHEAD WITH THE DRIVEWAY, AND THEN COME BACK TO A SUBSEQUENT DESIGN REVIEW WITH ANOTHER APPROACH.SO SIDELIGHTS ARE OKAY, EVEN THOUGH THEY DON'T MATCH THE, THAT TIME PERIOD.
AND THEN IF THE DOOR WAS PAINTED AND IT WASN'T AN OAK FINISHED, THEN IT WOULD BE OKAY.
I'M DON'T THINK THE STYLE, YEAH.
I, I THINK WE'VE GOT SOME, I THINK THERE'S A LONGER DISCUSSION TO SEE WHAT'S THE STYLE IS.
SO, SO IF, IF I MAY, I, I THINK THE CHOICE THAT YOU HAVE IS TO EITHER, FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE CHOICE THAT YOU HAVE IS TO REPAIR THE EXISTING DOOR OR DEMONSTRATE THAT IT IS NOT REPAIRABLE.
AND THEN IF THAT'S THE CASE, I'M, YOU KNOW, I'M NOT HUNG UP ON THE HISTORIC MATERIAL AS MUCH AS IF YOU DO HAVE TO REPLACE IT.
UM, AND IT'S DEMONSTRATED THAT IT NEEDS TO BE REPLACED, BUT IT NEEDS TO REPLICATE THE DOOR THAT WAS THERE.
AT LEAST MORE CLOSELY THAN WE HAVE SHOWN.
AND, AND AGAIN, I, I DON'T WANT TO BE AN OBSTACLE, YOU KNOW, WE, WE AS A BOARD WANT YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL.
I'M TRYING TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK GOOD AND, AND WE, WE APPRECIATE THAT.
BUT YOU'RE IN A PRIMARY AREA OF VISUAL CONCERN.
WE'VE GOT THE HISTORIC DOOR, UM, AND, AND, UH, WELL, THOSE ARE THE PATHS FORWARD, AS, AS I SEE IT.
UM, ALSO A DOOR REFLECTS A LOT OF THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE LIVED IN THE HOUSE MM-HMM.
SO THOSE PICTURES I SHOWED YOU BEFORE WAS AN OFFICE BUILDING IN, IN ANDREW.
SO, I MEAN, IT'S DEAL, YOU KNOW, SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, I GET IT.
DO, DO YOU WISH TO GO, THE CHOICE, I'LL OFFER IT TO YOU AGAIN, IS, IS TO REMOVE THE DOOR FROM THE PROJECT AND JUST DEAL WITH THE DRIVEWAY AND COME BACK IF WE, IF WE VOTE AND REJECT THE WHOLE THING, IT DOESN'T COME BACK FOR A SIGNIFICANT PERIOD, RIGHT.
UM, YEAH, THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.
WE'LL, JUST SO THE, THE DOOR WOULD, SO MR. CHAIR, JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR, I THINK THE APPLICANT IS SAYING THAT HE IS REMOVING, HE'S MODIFYING HIS EXISTING APPLICATION TO REMOVE ANY REFERENCE OR CONSIDERATION TO THE FRONT DOOR MM-HMM.
SO I GUESS BY REMOVING IT, SO NEXT MONTH IF I COME UP WITH SOMETHING DIFFERENT, THEN I'M ABLE TO COME TO THE DESIGN REVIEW.
AND, AND WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT.
IN FACT, I EVEN GO FURTHER AND, AND TALK WITH MATT, SHELLY, SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT SOME PLAN IN ACTION.
FOR INSTANCE, IF IT INVOLVES, UM, THE BOARD GOING TO VERIFY THE CONDITION OF THE DOOR, WE WOULD WANT TO DO THAT BEFORE THE NEXT MEETING SO THAT WE COULD TALK INTELLIGENTLY ABOUT WHAT WAS OBSERVED.
WE'LL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO FACILITATE GETTING TO AN END POINT BY THE NEXT TIME.
MY, MY, JUST, MY MAJOR, MAJOR CONCERN IS SAFETY.
CAUSE I'VE, YOU KNOW, I GOT MY KIDS AND STUFF.
WE'VE COME DOWN AND WORK ON THE HOUSE AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE COMING IN.
SO THAT'S MY MAJOR, MAJOR CONCERN.
ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DRIVEWAY? NO, SIR.
I WOULD ENTERTAIN THE MOTION THEN DEALING WITH THE DRIVEWAY PIECE OF THIS PROJECT.
WELL, WE HAVE, AND IT HAS TO REMOVE THE DOOR FROM THERE.
YES, FROM THE APPLICATION, BUT IN THE MOTION, DOESN'T IT HAVE TO SAY THAT? N NO, MA'AM.
UM, SINCE THE APPLICATION HAS BEEN MODIFIED TO REMOVE, UM, ANY MENTION OF THE DOOR, THE APPLICATION AS IT SITS TODAY, MODIFIED DOES NOT CONSIDER THE DOOR AT ALL.
AND I WOULD JUST SUGGEST THAT YOU, UH, DO NOT NEED TO REFERENCE THE, UH, SECTIONS OF THE GUIDELINES THAT ARE NOT RELATED TO THE DRIVEWAY.
NOT RELATED TO THE, TO THE DRIVEWAY.
CITE THE ONES THAT ARE, THAT ARE RELATED TO THE DRIVEWAY, CORRECT.
WOULD SOMEONE LIKE TO DO THAT? MR. CHAIRMAN? I MOVE.
WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 1206 NORTH PASTURE TO BE NOT IN CONGRESS WITH NEW BURN'S CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTION 15 4 11 TO 15 4 29, AND NEW BURN'S, HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS OF FACT.
PART 2.7, 0.1, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
STATEMENT OF REASON PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
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THE PROPOSAL IS A DRIVEWAY.UH, YOU COULD ADD THAT THE, UH, THE LAST HALF OF THAT SENTENCE.
OH, UH, THE DRIVEWAY PORTION IS NOT IN CONGRESS WITH THE GUIDELINES.
WE PROVED THE MOTION FOR THE DRIVEWAY CHANGE.
DO YOU UNDERSTAND WHERE, WHERE WE'RE AT NOW? YEP.
UM, YOU'LL NEED A MOTION TO ISSUE THE COA MOTION TO ISSUE A COA FOR THE DRIVEWAY.
OPPOSED? HEARING NONE, DRIVEWAYS.
[4.E. 1512, 1516 National Ave., and 407 North Ave. – to include fencing in the Primary and Secondary AVCs.]
AND 16 NATIONAL AVENUE ON 4 0 7 NORTH AVENUE.FOR THIS APPLICATION, WE HAVE, UH, THE APPLICANTS HAVE FILLED OUT, UH, ALL THE INFORMATION ON THE FORM, AND THEY HAVE SIGNED AND DATED AND, UH, THE APPLICANTS ARE HERE.
UH, THIS IS, UH, SOME TWO PAIR OF PHOTOGRAPHS TO SHOW YOU THE AREA, UH, THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THE, UH, THE LOTS THAT, THE PARCELS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, IN A MINUTE.
BUT ESSENTIALLY THIS GRASSY AREA HERE.
UM, THIS IS A, ACTUALLY A VACANT LOT BETWEEN THE HOUSE AND THE BACKGROUND AND THE SIDEWALK.
AND THERE'S ALSO A VACANT LOT ALL THE WAY ON THE LEFT.
YOU'LL SEE HERE AT THE LOWER ONE HERE.
SO, UH, THE LOWER ONE SHOWS ALONG THE, UH, TO THE RIGHT OF THE CHAIN LINK FENCE IS, UH, ANOTHER VACANT LOT.
SO THE FENCES WILL BE, UH, ON THOSE TWO LOTS.
UM, THIS, SO, UM, THE APPLICANTS OWNED THREE LOTS SHOWN IN BLUE.
UH, AND WE WERE JUST STANDING AT THE TOP OF THIS PHOTOGRAPH ALONG THIS STREET.
UH, LOOKING AT THE TWO VACANT LOTS.
UH, THE ONE IN THE, ON THE LEFT CALLED 1516 NATIONAL AVENUE.
AND THE OTHER ONE ON THE RIGHT, UH, AT THE TOP RIGHT, UH, CALLED 4 0 7 NORTH AVENUE.
UH, A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO SEE IS THE, UH, WHAT IT CALLS THE GOLD LINE THAT IS CLOSE TO THE TOP EDGE OF THE TWO LOTS ALONG, UH, NORTH AVENUE.
AND THEN ALSO ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE GOING THROUGH THE SHADOW OF THIS TREE.
UH, THE SECOND SECTION OF THAT FENCE, UH, THAT IS PROPOSED TO BE A FOUR FOOT HIGH FENCE.
IT'S PROPOSED TO BE A WHAT? FOUR FOOT HIGH FENCE? FOUR FOOT.
THEN, UH, THE NEXT ONE SHOWS A SECOND FENCE, UH, BEHIND THAT FOUR FOOT FENCE THAT WILL BE SIX FOOT HIGH.
AND IT'S SHOWN HERE IN A MORE BLACK, WHITE COLORED LINE.
UH, IT IS SET BACK ANOTHER 19 FEET OR SO FROM THE FIRST FENCE.
AND ALSO, UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, THE OTHER FENCE PASSED THROUGH THE SHADOW ON THE LEFT.
UH, THIS ONE IS, UH, QUITE A BIT FARTHER BACK, UH, ON, IN THIS CASE AT, UM, FROM THAT OTHER FENCE.
BUT THIS ONE WILL BE SIX FEET HIGH.
UM, AND ALSO FOR REFERENCE FOR ANYONE WHO HAS BEEN OUT TO THE SITE, THERE ARE CURRENTLY SOME VERY LONG POSTS THAT ARE IN THE GROUND.
AND THOSE REPRESENT THE LINE OF THE FIRST FENCE I MENTIONED UP HERE.
SO THOSE, UH, VERY LONG POSTS, UH, ARE ALONG THAT LINE OF THAT GOLD, THE GOLD LINE SHOWN HERE ON THIS DRAWING.
UM, SO, UH, THERE ARE SOME DESCRIPTIONS OF THE PROJECT HERE.
UM, AND, UH, THERE IS A MODIFICATION, BUT ESSENTIALLY IT WILL GO AHEAD DOWN TO THE PHOTOGRAPHS.
UM, THE SIX FOOT HIGH FENCE IS PROPOSED TO BE WHAT'S CALLED THIS BOARD ON BOARD, UH, MISSION STYLE.
UH, UH, THEY DESCRIBE IT AS WHICH, UH, IS, UH, BOARD SOLID BOARDS THAT OVERLAP EACH OTHER
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INSTEAD OF BUTTING UP AGAINST EACH OTHER.AND SO THEY ALTERNATE FRONT, BACK, FRONT, BACK, UH, ALONG.
AND SO THERE'S, UH, TWO, TWO PHOTOGRAPHS TO SHOW THAT.
UM, THEN IN SUBSEQUENT TO OUR MEETING, UH, THE DESIGN REVIEW MEETING, UH, THEY'VE UNDERSTOOD THAT THE FRONT FENCE NEEDS TO BE FOUR FEET TALL AND ONE INCH GAPS BETWEEN THE, UH, THE SIX INCH WIDE BOARDS.
UM, AND SO THEN, UH, SO THAT WAS THE REVISION THAT THEY MADE.
SINCE OUR LAST COMPANY, EVERYTHING ELSE IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME.
UH, AND SO OUR ZONING AND INSPECTIONS REVIEW, UH, FOR THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR, IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS, THE LAND USE ORDINANCE AND FOR THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR WILL NOT REQUIRE OUR BUILDING PERMIT.
AND THEN WE'RE READY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE APPLICANT LIKE TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
GREGORY INLAND CHAMBERLAIN, MY WIFE.
I DON'T NEED TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS.
ARE THERE ANY PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS TO THIS PROJECT WHO HAVE STATUS? WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? SEEING NONE.
ANY OTHERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO COMMENT? SEEING NONE.
WE'RE READY FOR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.
SO THIS LARGER, AGAIN, SO THIS IS, UH, FOR THE, FOR GREGORY AND LYNN CHAMBERLAIN, AND THE PROJECT IS AT 5 12 56, UH, I'M SORRY, 15 12 15 16 NATIONAL AVENUE IN 4 0 7 NORTH AVENUE.
UH, HISTORIC PROPERTY NAME, UH, AND DATE IS FOR 1512 NATIONAL AVENUE, WHICH WAS ACTUALLY THE HOUSE ON, OBVIOUSLY NOT THE VACANT LOTS, BUT THE HOUSE ITSELF IS THE SUTTON HOUSE AND WAS BUILT CIRCA 1922.
UH, THE ONE LOT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE, BUT THERE WAS, UH, FOR THE TWO VACANT LOTS, UH, NATIONAL INVENTORY IS NOT APPLICABLE.
AND SANDBANK DESCRIPTION, OBVIOUSLY NONE.
SO FOR 1206 NORTH PASTORAL STREET, UH, THE PROJECT IS TO INCLUDE FENCING IN THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ABCS.
HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES ARE APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR FENCES AND GARDEN WALLS, 2.5, 0.1, TWO, AND THREE FOR PAINT.
5.4 0.3 AND FOUR STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS.
CAN I BORROW SOME FINDINGS? OF FACT? I HAD TO, UH, REISSUE THE RECOMMENDATIONS TO ADD THE STATEMENTS OF REASON, UH, BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION.
AND STAFF'S JUDGMENT ARE ONE, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
TWO, THE PROPOSAL IS THE INSTALLATION OF TWO FENCES.
THREE, THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.
THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.
AND FIVE, THE APPLICATION IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVED THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE FENCING IN THE PRIMARY AND SECONDARY ABCS.
BOARD COMMENTS OR, OH, MR. SHELLEY, YOU DID PICK UP 1206 PAST STEWART AGAIN IN YOUR INTRODUCTION.
OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? IT'S A TALL FENCE SECURING A PRIVATE AREA WITHIN ANOTHER FENCE.
AND MR. CHAIR, JUST, JUST TO MAKE SURE, UM, YOU ALL HAVE TO HAVE COMPETENT EVIDENCE IN YOUR RECORD.
SO IF YOU ALL ARE SATISFIED THAT THE FENCE THAT IS TO BE APPROVED IS DEMONSTRATED IN THE RECORD, IN THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, THEN YOU CERTAINLY CAN MOVE FORWARD.
I THINK SHE'S REFERRING TO THE FOUR FOOT ONE, WHICH WAS, WE DIDN'T SEE A, A PHOTO OF THAT OR A SKETCH.
THE, THE ONE THAT'S ON THE PERIMETER, THE FOUR FOOT ONE? YEAH.
WE JUST HAVE THIS ONE LINE, UH, DESCRIPTION.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND ONE INCH SEPARATION? THAT'S, THAT WAS THE CHANGE, RIGHT? YEAH.
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BE MADE OUT OF? IT'S, UH, WOOD.AND IS THERE A GATE IN IT? I DIDN'T HEAR ANYTHING ABOUT A GATE, UH, GREGORY JINGLE? YES, MA'AM.
THERE ARE, THERE ARE GATES IN BOTH THE FENCES AND, UH, THE FOUR FOOT FENCE IS BASICALLY SIX INCH PICKETS WITH AN INCH GAP.
SEE? SO I, I, I'D LIKE TO SEE PICTURES OF THAT.
I'D LIKE TO SEE HOW THAT'S ALL SET UP AND WHAT THE GATES LOOK LIKE.
AND WILL, THE GATES WILL BE PART OF THE WALL.
THERE WON'T BE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THE GATE.
THE GATE WILL BE, I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'D LIKE TO SEE PICTURES OF IT.
DO YOU HAVE, DO YOU HAVE PICTURES? UM, I CAN PUT TOGETHER PICTURES, BUT I DESCRIBED IT IN THE ADDENDUM WHAT IT WAS GOING TO BE.
SO I FIGURED THAT WAS APPROPRIATE FOR HOW WE'VE BEEN DOING IT.
SO WILL YOU ONLY SHOW PART OF 1 1, 1 OF THE FENCES YOU'RE GONNA PUT UP WITH THAT ARE GONNA BE ONE ON TOP OF THE OTHER.
WHEN WE DISCUSSED THIS AT THE PREVIOUS MEETING, WE DISCUSSED WHAT THE RULES WERE FOR THE, FOR THE, UH, PRESERVATION SOCIETY.
SO FOLLOWING THOSE RULES IS BASICALLY PICKET GAP.
PICKET GAP, I MEAN, SO IF YOU COULD PROVIDE US A PICTURE OF THAT IN THE GATES AND HOW THAT'S ALL GONNA WORK, UM, WE COULD MAKE THAT A, A, UH, CONDITION OF THE APPROVAL IF YOU'D LIKE.
IF YOU COULD, WOULD YOU WOULD PLEASE.
AND IF YOU COULD COMMENT AND PRESENT THAT TO YOU BEFORE YOU STARTED WORK ON IT.
WE'LL MAKE THAT A CONDITION OF A, UH, MOTION THAT SOMEONE, ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAN GET TO THAT MOTION? YEAH, CAN YOU SCROLL BACK DOWN TO THE PICTURES? AND SO I, I GUESS ALONG THOSE LINES, UM, WHAT DOES THE TOP OF THE PICKET LOOK LIKE? IT'S BASICALLY BOXED OFF, SIR.
JUST BASICALLY, YOU'RE JUST NOT GONNA HAVE THE, THE GAP IN BETWEEN THE BOARD.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST, I'M NOT PUTTING ONE BOARD IN.
THERE'S NO TOP BOARD, SO THAT'S YOUR GAP.
OTHER QUESTIONS? WOULD SOMEONE MAKE A MOTION WITH THAT CONDITION THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED? MR. CHAIRMAN? UH, I MOVE THAT WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR FIVE 12 AND FIVE 16 NATIONAL AVENUE AND 4 0 7 NORTH AVENUE TO BE NOT IN CONGRESS WITH NEW NEWBORN'S.
CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15 DASH 4 11 2 15 DASH FOUR TWENTY NINE AND NEW NEWBORN'S HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS OF FACT GUIDELINES, FENCES AND GARDEN LAWS, 2.5 0.1, 2.5 0.2, 2.5 0.3, PAINT 5.4 0.3 5.4 0.4 FINDINGS.
IN FACT, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN A TIGHT WEEK DEVELOPMENT PART.
THE PROPOSAL IS THE INSTALLATION OF TWO FENCES OF APPROPRIATE DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS THAT MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.
ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF BUILDING, UH, OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THE PROJECT AND COMMENT ACCORDINGLY, AND THAT THE APPLICATION IS NOT IN CONGRESS.
UH, I'D LIKE TO ALSO ATTACH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.
THE ADMINISTRATOR WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO ASSURE THAT THE FOUR FOOT FENCES MEETS THE DESCRIPTION AS PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, ALONG WITH ANY NECESSARY DOCUMENTATION REQUIRED FOR THAT.
CAN, CAN I SUGGEST MODIFYING THAT CONDITION, UH, SUCH THAT IT IS THE APPLICANT WHO IS REQUIRED TO DO SOMETHING AS OPPOSED TO THE STAFF BEING REQUIRED TO DO SOMETHING? UM, YES.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS MY INTENT, IS THE ADVOCATE WOULD PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO YOU.
MOVED IT, SECONDED THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THIS, UM, UH, PETITION WITH THE, UH, UH, PRO PROVISO THAT, UH, TIM MENTIONED.
MR. CHAIR, CAN WE HAVE EITHER THE CHAIR OR ONE OF THE MEMBERS REPEAT THE CONDITION JUST SO THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS WHAT IT IS? TIM, WOULD YOU OKAY.
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ADMINISTRATOR, UH, WILL WORK WITH THE APPLICANT TO ASSURE THAT THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE TO THE ADMINISTRATOR.THE APPLICANT WILL PROVIDE TO THE ADMINISTRATOR, UM, UH, NECESSARY, UM, DESCRIPTION IN EVIDENCE TO ASSURE THAT THE FOUR FOOT FENCE MEETS THE DESCRIPTION THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND YOU UNDERSTAND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AT THIS POINT, I WILL SUPPLY PICTURES OF THE FOUR FOOT HIGH SECTION, SIX FOOT SECTION.
WITH THE GAP ON THE FRONT AND BACK YEP.
UM, THE GATES ARE GOING TO JUST BE METALED, SO I WILL ADD THAT I BELIEVE I HAVE IT ALREADY IN THE DESCRIPTION OF, OF THE, UH, PIECES I'M USING MM-HMM.
BUT THE METAL IS JUST STANDARD.
THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A DIFFERENT PATTERN IN THE FENCE, RIGHT.
MOTION TO ISSUE THE COA WITH THAT, UH, OFFENDED.
WE APPROVE THE C A AS AMENDED.
CAN I ASK WHO, UH, DID THE SECOND ON THE FIRST MOTION? JIM, THANK YOU.
[4.F. 305 Bern St. – to include a new shed in the Tertiary AVC.]
BURN.DO WE HAVE THE APPLICATION FOR THIS ONE? UM, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT WILL NEED TO BE SWORN IN.
SO HERE'S THE APPLICATION FOR 3 0 5 BURN STREET.
UH, AGAIN, UH, THE INFORMATION'S BEEN PROVIDED ON THE FORM AND THE FORM IS, UH, DULY SIGNED AND DATED BY THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.
SO, UH, SOME BACKGROUND PHOTOS.
THIS IS, UH, WHAT YOU GET ON, UH, STREET VIEW.
UM, THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, UH, OBVIOUSLY THE APPLICATION IS, UM, CONCERNING THE BACKYARD, BUT, UH, JUST FOR STYLE AND UM, CONTEXT, UH, AGAIN ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE COMPLETE WITH, UH, MALE CARRIER.
UH, AND THEN, UH, THE DRIVEWAY IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE FOR THIS HOUSE, OR IS SHOWN HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
UM, HERE IS AN AERIAL VIEW WITH THE SITE SELECTED, AND THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER IS THE SUBJECT AREA FOR THIS, UH, SHED PROJECT.
UM, TO, UH, TO NOTE WAS A LITTLE CONFUSING TO ME.
THERE WERE, THERE'S ACTUALLY A DRIVEWAY BEHIND THE FENCE HERE, UH, FOR THIS RELATIVELY LARGE PROPERTY BEHIND THERE.
I GUESS THAT'S ENOUGH FOR NOW.
UH, THIS IS THE SKETCH THAT THEY PROVIDE THAT MR. ARY PROVIDED FOR HIS PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE THE SHED IS LABELED E IN THE UPPER RIGHT HAND CORNER.
UM, SHOWS THE PROPERTY LINES THE DISTANCES TO THE PROPERTIES, UH, THREE FEET.
UM, IT SHOWS THE DOOR IN THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER OF THE SHED AND THE WINDOW ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE BOTTOM SIDE OF THIS RECTANGLE HERE.
AND THEN HE SHOWS THE HOUSE HERE IS AT LEAST, IS WAY MORE THAN EIGHT FEET AWAY.
SO THIS IS THE SUBJECT AREA RIGHT HERE, CURRENTLY COVERED WITH GRAVEL, AND IT'S SURROUNDED BY FENCING.
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AND A VIEW FROM THE, THAT'LL BE THE VIEW FROM THE SHED TO THE HOUSE OR FROM THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE SHED TO THE HOUSE.UH, AND THEN, UH, FROM THE SIDE FENCE ACROSS THE AREA WHERE THE SHED WILL BE TOWARDS THE REST OF THE LAWN.
UH, THIS IS AN IMAGE WHICH REPRESENTS, UH, A SHED VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT HE'S PROPOSING.
UM, AND IT'S IN A NEARBY YARD SOMEWHERE.
UH, AND HE'S ALSO PROVIDED, UH, SOME OF THE, UH, SPEC OR, OR, UH, CUT SHEETS FOR THE PROJECT.
YOU CAN SEE IT DOES HAVE THE CAMERA ROOF ON IT.
AND, UH, UH, DOOR AND WINDOW HERE ON THE SIDE AT DOUBLE 36 INCH WIDE DOOR.
AND, UM, THE SIDING IS LP SMART SIDE PANEL SIDING SHOWN HERE ON THE LEFT.
THE, UM, UH, LET'S SEE, THE DOOR IS, UH, LP SIDED DOOR AS WELL.
HOWEVER, THIS HAS THE DOOR SHOWN ON THE WRONG SIDE.
UH, BUT IT DOES SHOW THE MATERIALS, UH, MORE SPECIFICALLY, UH, THE SMART SIDE SIDING, UH, AND THE TONGUE IN THE GROOVE.
OH, AND SORRY, THE FLOORING, WE DON'T CARE ABOUT THAT.
UM, AND THE NOTCHED SKIDS, UH, WHICH WILL BE THE FOUNDATION.
UH, THE WINDOW IS, UH, ALUMINUM SLIDER WINDOWS WITH METALS.
I BELIEVE YOU'RE NOT DOING THE SHUTTER THOUGH, RIGHT? SO, SO HERE'S, UH, HIS SUMMARY OF THE, UH, DESCRIPTION OF THE PROJECT.
UM, IN ADDITION TO BEING THE SH THE 10 BY 12 SHED PANEL LOCK, MIDDLE ROOFING, UH, SMART PANEL SIDING, UH, UM, 18 BY 27 WINDOW.
HE WILL HAVE A FLOWER BOX ATTACHED AND, UH, A RECTANGLE VENT UNDER A ROOF ARCH.
UH, SKIDS, UH, ARE, UH, MADE OF WOOD, UH, PRESSURE TREATED WOOD.
AND LET'S SEE, UH, OH, THE DOUBLE DOOR IS LIGHT FIBERGLASS, SORRY.
SO HERE'S OUR ZONING AND INSPECTIONS REVIEW.
UM, IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USE ORDINANCE, AND IT WILL NOT REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.
SO, AND WE'RE READY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS, SIR, YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO, BUT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADD ANYTHING TO THAT? UM, IT WILL, SORRY, IT'S GONNA REST ON BLOCKS AND JUST NOT ON, ON THIS.
THE SKIDS WILL BE UNBLOCKED AND THAT'LL BE ANCHORED.
ANY PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS TO THE PROJECT.
UH, OTHERS WHO HAVE RELEVANT INFORMATION, HEARING NONE READY FOR RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS.
UH, SO THIS IS, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS.
MR. MARK OL RAY'S PROJECT AT 3 0 5 BURN STREET.
UH, THE HISTORIC PROPERTY NAME IS HOUSE, UH, AND IT WAS BUILT IN 1910.
IT IS A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
THE NATIONAL REGISTER INVENTORY DESCRIPTION IS, UH, THE HOUSE IS, UH, TWO STORIES, THREE BAYS WIDE, TWO BAYS DEEP, THREE OVER ONE SASH, HIP ROOF, HIP ROOF, PORCH, TAPERED POST BRICK PIERS, AND ONE STORY REAR WING.
THE SANDECK DESCRIPTION THAT MIGHT HAVE ANY RELEVANCE TO THIS IS, UH, THE LOW HIP ROOF AND RELATIVELY PLAIN EXTERIOR FINISHES.
SO FOR 3 0 5 BURN STREET, GOT THAT RIGHT THIS TIME, UH, THE PROJECT, UH, IS TO INCLUDE A NEW SHED IN THE TERTIARY ABC STAFF SUBMITS THE FOLLOWING HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AS APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, 2.6, 0.1, AND THREE FOR DESIGN PRINCIPLES.
UH, 3.1, 0.1 AND TWO FOR FOUNDATIONS.
4.1 0.3 FOR WALLS, TRIM AND ORNAMENTATION, 4.2 0.4 AND FIVE FOR WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS.
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0.2 AND THREE FOR PAINT.5.4, 0.2, THREE, AND FOUR FOR CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 0.1, 2, 3, 5, AND SIX.
AND SO STATEMENTS ARE REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION AND STAFF'S JUDGMENT ARE, ONE, THE STRUCTURES A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE IN THE TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
TWO, THE PROJECT IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITHIN TERTIARY ABC THREE.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES FOR THE ZONING.
ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENT ACCORDINGLY.
AND FIVE, THE PROJECT IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE A NEW SHED IN THE TERTIARY ABC.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, BOARD? OKAY.
UH, WE'VE ENTERTAINED A MOTION.
WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 3 0 5 BURN STREET, AND, UH, TO BE NOT IN CONGRESS WITH NEW BURNS.
CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15 4 11 TO 15,000 4 29 AND NEW BURN'S.
HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FOL FINDINGS OF FACT DESIGN PRINCIPLES, EXCUSE ME, ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, 2.6 0.1 AND THREE, DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 3.1 0.1 AND TWO FOUNDATIONS, 4.1 0.3 WALLS, TRIM AND OR LIMITATION, 4.2 0.4 AND FIVE WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS.
PAINT, 5.4 0.2 5, 24 0.3 AND FOUR.
CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 0.1 2, 3, 4, EXCUSE ME, 1, 2, 3, 5, AND SIX AS STATEMENTS OF REASON.
FINDINGS OF FACT, THE STRUCTURE IS A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE IN THE TIGHT WEED DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
THE PRIMARY STRUCTURE IS A CONTRIBUTING RESOURCE.
THE PROJECT IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITHIN THE TERTIARY ABC.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.
THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL ARE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT IN COMMON AND ACCORDINGLY.
AND THE PROJECT IS NOT IN CONGRESS.
WITH THE GUIDELINES HERE, A SECOND, SECOND.
WE APPROVE THE PROJECT DISCUSSION.
OPPOSED? HEARING NONE PROJECTS APPROVED.
AND SECONDLY, WE APPROVE THE COA.
[4.G. 720 E. Front St. – to include a new 2-story infill house.]
OKAY, SO THIS IS THE APPLICATION FOR SEVEN 20 EAST FRONT STREET.UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THE DOCUMENTS FILLED OUT APPROPRIATELY.
SIGNED AND DATED BY THE OWNER'S AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE WHO IS WITH THIS FORM AUTHORIZED.
AND THAT TWO IS, UM, NOTARIZED AND DATED.
SO THIS IS, UM, THE SITE, UH, ALONG EAST FRONT STREET.
IT'S CURRENTLY A VACANT LOT, UH, AND SLOPES DOWN TO THE RIVER.
THESE ARE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS THAT WERE PROVIDED THAT PROVIDE SOME CONTEXT.
UM, THE STARTING ON THE UPPER LEFT ARE, UH, QUEENS POINT, UM, UH, COMPLEX OR DEVELOPMENT THERE.
AND THEN, UH, NEXT TO THE QUEENS POINT, ONE IS THE PROPERTY, THE HOUSE IMMEDIATELY NEXT TO THE VACANT LOT.
UH, THIS IS THE SUBJECT OF THE, UH, PROJECT.
AND THEN ON THE RIGHT BEHIND THE RED TRUCK IS THE NEXT ADJACENT HOUSE, UM, A CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE.
UM, AND THEN I'M GONNA ZOOM OVER TO THE LEFT.
SO ACROSS THE STREET IS THE LIGHT BLUE COLORED HOUSE, UM, AND THE SIDE OF THAT LIGHT BLUE COLORED HOUSE.
AND THEN, UM, BEYOND, BEHIND THAT ONE IS, UH, BEHIND THE LIGHT BLUE COLORED HOUSE IS A VACANT SPACE.
UH, AND THIS HOUSE IN THE MIDDLE NOW IS NEXT TO THAT VACANT SPACE.
ON THE RIGHT ARE TWO HOMES THAT ARE, UM,
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UH, ALSO ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE SAME BLOCK AS THE, UM, PROPOSED HOUSE.AND THEN I'M GOING TO CONTINUE AGAIN.
SO HERE AGAIN IS THE VACANT, UH, PROPERTY.
AND I BELIEVE THIS IS THE VACANT PROPERTY FROM THE RIVER RIVERSIDE, UH, FROM THE RIVER END OF THE LOT, LOOKING BACK TOWARDS EAST FRONT STREET.
UH, AND THEN THESE, THESE TWO HOUSE, UH, PHOTOS ARE THE SAME HOUSE, UM, FARTHER DOWN, UH, EAST FRONT STREET, CLOSER TO DOWN DOWNTOWN, AND I BELIEVE MAY BE REFERENCED BY THE APPLICANT'S, UH, ARCHITECT.
UM, THIS IS THE SITE PLAN, ESSENTIALLY FOR THE NEW HOUSE AND, UH, THE EAST FRONT STREET ON THE LEFT SIDEWALK.
AND THEN THE HOUSE, UM, YOU CAN SEE IT INCLUDES, UH, ALSO THIS GARAGE AND THE BOTTOM CENTER OF THE IMAGE.
AND THEN THE REST OF THE PROPERTY, UH, TO THE RIGHT IS TO BE LEFT UNDEVELOPED.
UM, THERE IS A SECTION OF WETLANDS IN THERE, AND THEN THE RIVER IS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, UM, TO, UH, GUESS.
UM, SO THERE IS A HOUSE ON THE, UH, UH, UH, PROPERTY ADJACENT AT THE TOP, UH, HERE OR TO THE LEFT OF THE HOUSE.
AND THEN, OR TO THE NORTH OF THE HOUSE.
AND TO THE SOUTH, THERE IS ALSO ANOTHER, UH, STRUCTURE AS WELL.
UM, WE'LL SEE THOSE IN ANOTHER IMAGE RIGHT HERE, IN FACT.
UM, SO THE, THIS PLACES THE, UH, THE HOUSE, UH, AND GARAGE AND CONTEXT WITH THE SURROUNDING HOUSES.
AND THIS IS TO PROVIDE, UH, THE, UH, RELEVANT INFORMATION FOR THE SETBACK REQUIREMENT.
AND WE CAN COME BACK TO THIS IF WE NEED TO.
THEN, UH, THIS IS THE FIRST FLOOR PLAN.
FOR EXAMPLE, UM, ON THE LEFT, WE HAVE ALONG THE SIDEWALK, UH, A BRICK WALL, A BRICK RETAINING WALL.
UH, AND THEN THERE IS THE ENTRY STAIRS ARE, UH, ACCESSED FROM THE DRIVEWAY, AND THEN A SMALL SET OF STAIRS THAT END UP GOING UP TO THE, UH, ENTRYWAY.
BUT THIS NOW IS ESSENTIALLY THE BASEMENT PLANT.
AND, UH, IT IS A LARGE OPEN SPACE BECAUSE OF THE, UH, FLOOD REQUIREMENTS.
UH, SO PEOPLE WOULD PARK IN THE GARAGE OR PARK IN THE DRIVEWAY AND THEN, UH, WALK IN THROUGH THIS ONE DOOR HERE, OR WALK IN THEIR FRONT DOOR.
UH, BUT WALK IN THE DOOR, POTENTIALLY IN THE BACK THROUGH THE LARGE OPEN SPACE, AND INTO BASICALLY THE ELEVATOR LOBBY TO ACCESS THE ELEVATOR.
AND THERE'S ALSO STAIRS TO GO UP FROM THERE AS WELL.
UH, THE, ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WE HAVE A LOW RETAINING WALL AS WELL, UH, FOR THE BACKYARD, WHICH THE BACKYARD WOULD THEN, UM, BE THIS LARGE WHITE AREA HERE AS WELL.
WHAT WE ALSO SEE IN THE PLAN IS A PAVED, UH, PATIO AREA, UM, UH, TOWARDS THE BACK OF THIS OPEN BASEMENT AREA.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT, SO THE MAIN FLOOR, UH, WHERE THE MAIN ENTRANCE IS ON THE LEFT, UH, THERE IS A COVERED PORCH THERE.
UH, AND WE'LL SEE THAT IN A SECOND.
AND THEN OUT THE BACK THERE ARE ALSO, UH, AN UNCOVERED PORCH AND A SCREAMED IN PORCH.
UM, WELL, I'M SORRY, THE, THERE IS A PORCH, WHICH IS BOTH.
UNC HAS AN UNCOVERED PORTION AT THE BACK, UH, TOWARDS THE REAR, AND A COVERED PORTION, UH, IN, CLOSER TOWARDS THE HOUSE.
AND THEN THERE'S A, ANOTHER AREA THAT IS ACTUALLY A SCREENED IN PORCH.
UH, AND THEN THE, UH, GARAGE ALSO HAS A SECOND FLOOR AREA, UH, WITH A BATHROOM AND A FINISHED ROOM AS WELL, AND A DECK OUT THE BACK.
SO THEN THE NEXT FLOOR, THE SECOND FLOOR, UM, JUST HAS, UH, THE USUAL BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS AND SUCH.
UH, NO, UH, NO BALCONIES, NO, UH, PORCHES ON THAT FLOOR.
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SO NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO MUCH SMALLER.UM, OKAY, THIS IS AN ELEVATION OF THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
UH, AND SO THE, UH, THE BRICK RETAINING WALL ALONG THE SIDEWALK IS SHOWN HERE AS THREE FEET HIGH, AS IT, UH, CONTINUES ACROSS THE FRONT OF THE HOUSE, AND THEN AROUND TO THE SIDE, AND THEN AROUND TO THE BACK.
UH, AND NOW YOU CAN SEE THE STAIRWAY COMING UP FROM THE DRIVEWAY AREA UP TO THE FRONT COVERED PORCH.
UH, AND, UH, THE SECOND FLOOR IS, UM, WHAT YOU MIGHT CALL A HALF STORY, UH, AN EXTRA HALF STORY.
IT'S PULL STORY, BUT, UH, USES, UM, THE GABLES AND, UH, TO, UM, MAINTAIN A LOWER ROOF PROFILE.
UH, AND, UH, IN THE BACKGROUND HERE IS THE FRONT OF THE GARAGE, WHICH NOW OVER HERE IS RENDERED.
SO THEY'RE NOT TO TWO, BUT THIS IS JUST THE, UH, MORE DETAILED RENDERING OF THE GARAGE.
SO YOU GET THE FULL GARAGE, UH, SINCE IT'S KIND OF TUCKED BACK BEHIND THE HOUSE A LITTLE BIT.
UH, ALL RIGHT, THEN THE NEXT DRAWING SHOWS THE, UH, THAT WOULD BE THE SOUTH SIDE OF THE HOUSE.
AND ALSO TO NOTE IS THEY HAVE INDICATED THE, UM, THE FIRST FLOOR LEVEL, UH, WHICH IS, UH, 12 FEET, 13 FEET ABOVE SEA LEVEL.
AND SO IN THIS, UH, IN THIS AREA, THAT IS THE REQUIRED FLOOR HEIGHT.
UH, AND, UM, OTHER THINGS TO POINT OUT IN THE, ON THE FOUNDATION LEVEL OR THE BASEMENT LEVEL, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PAINTED LOUVERS WITH THE BRICK SIDE, WITH THE BRICK, UM, MATERIAL AS THE EXTERIOR MATERIAL.
UH, AND, AND THEN, UH, HARDY BOARD LAP SIDING IS TYPICAL AROUND THE BUILDING, UH, VINYL WINDOWS WITH 3D GRILLS INSIDE AND OUT.
UM, AND WE HAVE ALL THE CORNER BOARDS AND THE LARGE BOARDS AND SUCH ARE ALL SHOWN HERE.
UH, ROOF OVERHANGS AND SLOPES, UM, BRACKETS AT THE, UH, AT THE PEAKS, UM, THE, UH, COLUMNS OUT FRONT COMPOSITE COLUMNS.
AND WE SEE HERE ON THE RIGHT IS THAT SCREENED IN PORCH ABOVE THE PATIO COVERED PATIO AREA THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER.
UM, THESE STEPS ON THIS, IN THIS CASE ARE BRICK MASONRY.
IT'S THE OUTLINE OF THE, UH, OF THE GARAGE HERE WITH ITS DECK.
SO, UM, THAT'S ALL HARDY BOARD SIDING.
AND THE, UH, UM, THE DECK IS ON THE STILTS HERE.
UM, WHAT I'VE BEEN CUTTING OFF HERE ALL THE TIME IS THE ROOFING IS A STANDING SCENE, METAL ROOF.
AND, UH, ALL THE SAME MATERIALS I MENTIONED BEFORE.
JUST TO POINT OUT THE FEATURES ON THE LEFT IS THE, UH, SCREENED IN PORCH.
THIS IS THE, THEN THE PORCH AREA THAT IS BOTH COVERED AND UNCOVERED.
UH, AND NOW YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE OTHER DORMERS AND THE GABLE HERE ON THIS ONE SECTION HERE.
AND THE, UH, RETAINING WALL AS IT'S COMING AROUND TO THE BACK OF THE HOUSE, IS TALLER THAN IT WAS OUT FRONT, UH, DUE TO THE SLOPING, UH, GROUND.
THEN FINALLY, THE, UH, NORTHERN ELEVATION IS HERE, AND YOU CAN SEE ALSO THE, UM, THE GARAGE ON THE LEFT, ON THE PAN TO THE RIGHT TO PICK UP MORE OF THE FACADE.
AND THEN THIS IS THE ELEVATION OF THE GARAGE ON THAT SIDE.
NOW, THERE MUST HAVE BEEN AN ELEVATION FOR THE BACKSIDE.
THE BACKSIDE OF THE GARAGE IS SHOWN HERE.
SO, UM, WITH METAL GARAGE DOORS WHERE, UM, INDEED, UH, CARS WOULD BE PARKED BACK THERE.
UH, BUT THEN THE, UH, REST OF THE, UH, STRUCTURE IS ABOVE
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THE, UH, THE FLOOR LEVEL.FINISHED FLOOR LEVEL IS ABOUT THE FLOOD, FLOOD, UH, REQUIREMENT.
SO, UH, THEN FOR THE ZONING AND INSPECTION REVIEW, UH, WE HAVE, UM, THE ZONING, UH, ADMINISTRATOR HAS SAID THAT IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF LAND USE ORDINANCE, AND THE SETBACKS MUST COMPLY WITH CITY CODE SECTION 15 DASH FOUR 16.
UH, THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR SAYS, OF COURSE, IT WILL REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT, AND THEN WE'RE READY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.
ANYONE WHO IS OPPONENT OR PROPONENT OF THE PROJECT? NO.
UH, READY FOR YOUR, UH, RECOMMENDATIONS AND FINDINGS? OKAY.
SO THIS IS A PROJECT FOR, UH, JOANNE LANG AND GO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, P L C AT SEVEN 20 EAST FRONT STREET.
UH, OBVIOUS, THERE'S, UH, NO HISTORIC PROPERTY NAME, AND IT IS A VACANT PARCEL, SO NONE OF THE OTHERS ARE RELEVANT.
UH, SO THIS IS FOR A PROJECT AT SEVEN 20 EAST FRONT STREET TO INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW TWO-STORY INFILL HOUSE AND TWO-STORY DETACHED GARAGE.
UH, STAFF SUBMITS THE FOLLOWING.
HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES ARE APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN 2.1, 0.1, TWO, AND THREE FOR UTILITIES, 2.3 0.1, TWO, THREE, AND SIX FOR LANDSCAPING, 2.4, 0.34 AND SEVEN FOR FENCES AND GARDEN WALLS, 2.5, 0.1, AND TWO FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, 2.6 0.1 AND TWO FOR PARKING, 2.7 0.1, AND TWO FOR WATERFRONT MODIFICATIONS.
2.9 0.3 FOR DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 2.3 0.1, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE FOR INFILLED CONSTRUCTION, 3.4, 0.1, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR FOR FOUNDATIONS, 4.1, 0.2, 3, 4, 5, AND SIX FOR WALLS, TRIM AND ORNAMENTATION, 4.2 0.4 AND FIVE FOR WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS.
4.3 0.2 AND THREE FOR ENTRANCES, 4.4 0.4 FOR ROOFS, 4.5 0.4 AND SIX FOR DEX AND PATIOS, 4.6 0.2 FOR MASONRY, 5.1, 0.35 AND SIX FOR METALS, 5.3 0.3 AND FOUR PER PAINT, 5.4, 0.2, THREE, FOUR, AND SIX FOR CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 0.1, 2, 3, 5, AND SIX.
STATEMENTS ARE REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION AND STATS JUDGMENT ARE ONE, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE TIGHT LEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
TWO, THE PROPOSAL AS AN INFILL AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURE PROJECT.
THREE, PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.
THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.
AND FIVE, THE PROJECT IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.
SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION OF A TWO-STORY INTEL HOUSE AND TWO-STORY DETACHED GARAGE WITH THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.
THE SEAWAY IS NOT VALID, AND CONSTRUCTION MAY NOT BEGIN UNTIL THE APPLICANT PROVIDES THE HPA, THE DRAWINGS, DETAILS AND DESCRIPTION OF THE UTILITIES, EXTERIOR LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND THE HPA HAS REVIEWED THE INFORMATION AND APPROVES BY ISSUING AN AMENDED COA OR AS A SEPARATE COA, THE INSTALLATION OF SET UTILITIES, LIGHTING, AND LANDSCAPING.
THAT'S THE END OF OUR RECOMMENDATION.
QUESTIONS, COMMENTS AND BOARD.
MR. CHAIRMAN? UM, UM, WOULD IT BE WORTHWHILE TO WORK THROUGH THE COA EVALUATION WORKSHEET JUST AS A WAY TO GUIDE QUESTIONS AND DISCUSSIONS? A LOT OF BITS AND PIECES TO THIS WOULD, WE'VE NEVER DONE THAT.
ARE THERE QUESTIONS? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S ON THE SHEET? DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FROM IT? WELL, IT'S, IT'S TENDED TO BE A WAY JUST TO KIND OF GUIDE QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS.
UH, ALONG THE WAY, UH, VICE CHAIR, YOUR HAS MM-HMM.
I, I DON'T NEED TO DO THAT, BUT, OKAY.
SOMEBODY WANTS TO, SOMEBODY IS INTERESTED.
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ANY QUESTIONS, OBSERVATIONS, COMMENTS? CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION? QUESTION.UH, VINYL WINDOWS ARE ALLOWED IN NEW CONSTRUCTION.
VINYL WINDOWS ARE ALLOWED IN NEW CONSTRUCTION IN THE INFIELD, YEAH.
AND SO THE, UH, AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THE ONLY VINYL TABOO, IT WOULD BE SIDE SIDING.
BUT, UH, WE SEE IT A LOT ON WINDOW FENESTRATION THESE DAYS, AS WELL AS, UM, SOME, UH, EAVES AND SOFFITS, MAYBE.
OTHER QUESTIONS? CONCERNS? NO, EXTREMELY THOROUGH.
EVERY QUESTION I HAD WAS ANSWERED BY LOOKING AT THE DRAWINGS, SO THANKS.
WOULD SOMEONE CARE TO MAKE A MOTION BASED ON THAT RECOMME, THAT RECORD SETTING NUMBER OF, OF, UH, GUIDELINES? YEAH.
UH, WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR SEVEN 20 EAST FRONT STREET, UH, FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS, UH, THAT IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH NEW BURNS.
CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15 4 11 15, 4 29, AND NEW BURNS, UH, HISTORIC DISTRICT STANDARDS, AS THEY WILL SOON BECOME, UH, BASED ON THE FOLLOWING GUIDELINES AND, UH, FINDINGS OF FACT DEVELOPMENT.
PATTERN 2.1, ONE, 2.1, TWO, AND THREE, UH, UTILITIES, 2.3 1, 2, 3, AND SIX.
LANDSCAPING 2.43, 2.44, AND 2.47.
FENCES AND GARDEN WALLS, 2.51 AND TWO.
ACCESSORY STRUCTURES, 2.6 0.1 AND TWO.
PARKING, 2.7 0.1 AND TWO, UH, WATERFRONT MODIFICATIONS, 2.93.
DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 3.1, 0.1, 2, 3, 4, AND FIVE.
INFILL CONSTRUCTION, 3.4 0.1, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR FOUNDATIONS, 4.1, 0.2, 3, 4, 5, AND SIX.
WALLS, TRIM AND ORNAMENTATION, 4.2 0.4 AND FIVE, WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS, 4.3 0.2 AND THREE ENTRANCES, 4.4 0.4.
MASONRY, 5.1, 0.3 5.1 0.5 AND SIX.
METALS, 5.3 0.3 5.3 0.4, PAINT, 5.4, 0.2, THREE, FOUR, AND SIX.
CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 0.1, 2, 3, 5, AND SIX.
UH, FINDINGS OF FACT, THE PROJECT IS LOCATED IN THE TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.
UH, UH, IT CONSISTS OF, UH, INFILL CONSTRUCTION AND AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
UH, THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS, UM, MEET THE STANDARDS.
THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE, UH, REVIEWED THE PROJECT IN COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.
AND LASTLY, THE PROJECT IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.
UH, THE CONDITION BEING THAT, UM, UH, INFORMATION PERTAINING TO UTILITIES, EXTERIOR LIGHTING, AND LANDSCAPING COME BACK AS A SEPARATE COA.
WE WILL, WE DO MOTION TO ISSUE A COA? YEAH.
WITH, WITH THAT, UH, CONDITION? YES, SIR.
UH, TO ISSUE WITH THE CONDITION.
MOTION TO APPROVE THE COA WITH THE CONDITION STATED MOVED.
OPPOSED? COA WITH CONDITIONS IS ISSUE.
[4.B. 305 North Ave. – to include demolition of a contributing structure and construction of a 2-story infill house.]
3 0 5 NORTH.CAN SOMEBODY HELP ME WITH OUR NEXT MEETING DATE FOR A HEARING? OH, WE NEED TO DO A ISSUE, A CONTINUANCE, CONTINUANCE CONTINUANCE.
WHAT, WHAT, WHEN IS OUR NEXT HEARING DATE? OH,
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UH, FEBRUARY 15TH.UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVED THAT WE CONTINUE THE APPLICATION FOR 3 0 2, 3 0 5, SORRY.
THE 3 0 5 S ARE KILLING ME TONIGHT.
UH, THANK YOU FOR HELPING TO KEEP THAT ADDRESS STRAIGHT.
ANYTHING SIGNIFICANT IN YOUR REPORT
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THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO TELL US ABOUT? UM, IN, UH, THE REPORT OF, UH, THE COAS YOUR ADMINISTRATIVE'S REPORT.UH, COMMISSIONER REG RESIGNATIONS AND REPLACEMENT, I GUESS WE'VE DISCUSSED THAT AND THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS BY NOW, IS THAT RE RESIGNED? AND WE HAVE TWO NEW GENTLEMEN, UH, WILL BE, HAVE BEEN SWORN IN BOTH OF YOU, AND WE'LL GET THE TRAINING, WHICH TIM HAS VOLUNTEERED TO DO, AND COME TO THE NEXT DESIGN REVIEW AND WILL BE FULLY ENGAGED AT THE NEXT MEETING.
UH, ANY, ANYTHING ELSE WE NEED TO DISCUSS? SO I HAVE ALSO ON THE AGENDAS, THE ANNUAL REPORT TO THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICE.
UM, WE DID, UH, SUBMIT THAT REPORT ON TIME, UH, BACK IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER.
AND THEY LOVED IT? NO, THEY DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING
ACTUALLY NEVER DIDN'T HAVE IT IN HERE.
SO IT'S, UH, SHOWN HERE REAL BRIEFLY.
UM, SOME, UH, INTERESTING, UH, QUESTIONS AND, UH, ANSWERS.
UH, SO IF YOU HAVE INTEREST OR, UH, YOU'RE CURIOUS, UH, YOU CAN TAKE A LOOK AT THAT.
UM, WE ALSO HAVE TO SUBMIT SUBSEQUENT OR, UH, AS FOLLOW UP TO THIS, UH, THE REPORT REGARDING, UH, DEMOLITIONS IN ALL OF OUR HISTORIC DISTRICTS.
UM, AND ALSO, UM, UH, THERE'S OH, OH, AND ALSO THE, UH, RESUMES FOR, UH, THE NEW APPOINTMENTS, UH, PRIOR TO NOVEMBER.
SO NOT YOU TWO GUYS YET, BUT NEXT YEAR WE'LL NEED BY, BY NOVEMBER, WE'LL NEED TO HAVE SOME KIND OF RESUME FROM YOU GUYS AS TO WE'RE JUST, UH, LISTING A PIECE OF PAPER WHAT YOUR QUALIFICATIONS OR YOUR EXPERIENCE HAS BEEN THAT MAKES, MAKES IT, UH, MAKES YOU QUALIFIED BY NEXT TIME.
WELL, THAT GIVES A LITTLE, LITTLE TIME.
SO, UH, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'D ALSO WANT TO, UM, MAYBE, UH, AT THE, AT THE DESIGN REVIEW MEETING, WE GET TO, UH, GET IT TO MEET OUR NEW MEMBERS.
ANY COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? MATT, WHERE WAS THIS DOCUMENT THAT YOU'RE SHOWING? I, I DON'T SEE IT IN THE, THE ROLL UP H HPC DOCUMENTS OR MEETINGS? COULD YOU EMAIL IT TO US? WE, WE GOT SURE, SURE.
UH, UM, YES, IT'S NOW ALSO ON, IT'S THIS WHOLE, UH, 137 PAGE DOCUMENT, UH, THAT WE USE TONIGHT IS ALSO ON THE WEBSITE, UH, UNDER THE, OKAY.
AND THIS IS STARTING ON PAGE, UH, LIKE 130 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
WOULD ENTER, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN? YES.
WE ADJOURN ALL FAVOR STATE AYE.