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THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING TO THE NEW REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL YOUR SACRIFICE AND WHAT YOU DO, UH, IN THE, UM, IN THE COMMUNITY.
WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE CAN, UH, APPRECIATE YOUR COLLABORATION, COVER CONVERSATION, AND EVERYTHING THAT YOU, UH, THAT YOU DO LIKE TO WELCOME.
UH, TONIGHT WE HAVE TWO NEW COMMISSIONER, UH, MEMBERS AND IS, UH, COMMISSIONER SARAH NER.
UM, AND COMMISSIONER SHARON BRYANT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE.
AND WE HAVE ALDERMAN, UH, BEST ALDERMAN.
WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE ON WITH THE AGENDA.
UH, BEFORE I START WITH THE, UM, AGENDA, I WANT TO SAY, UH, THIS IS A SPECIAL CALL MEETING BECAUSE WE HAD CHANGED OUR MEETING PLACE TO CITY HALL AND WE HAD TO COME BACK HERE.
CAUSE OF COURSE WE KNOW THAT, UH, THERE'S WORK BEING DONE AT CITY HALL.
SO THIS IS A, UH, SPECIAL CALL MEETING CAUSE OF, UH, UH, PLACE.
AND IF I, UM, IF I MISSPEAK, UH, THANK YOU MS. JAMES, ATTORNEY JAMES, SHE'LL LET ME KNOW.
BUT, UH, IT IS A SPECIAL MEETING.
SO WHAT THAT CERTAINLY MEANS IS YOU SEE AGENDA ITEMS ONE THROUGH 16.
THAT IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN BE, UH, DISCUSSED.
IT'S WHAT IS ON THE AGENDA PER, UH, NORTH CAROLINA, UH, STATUTE.
AND SO I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE, UH, THAT WE UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO IF WE COULD HAVE, OH, JU JUST AS A, A STATEMENT OF CLARITY.
UM, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UM, THERE WAS A SPECIAL MEETING NOTICE THAT WAS ISSUED ON OR ABOUT FEBRUARY 3RD.
UM, IT IS A LA A LETTER TO, UH, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HERE BY THE CHAIR.
THAT DOCUMENT IS THE MEETING NOTICE FOR THIS SPECIAL MEETING.
AND LISTED ON THAT DOCUMENT ARE 15 ITEMS, UM, FROM THE PRIVILEGED AGENDA DOWN TO ADJOURNMENT THAT, BECAUSE THOSE ITEMS ARE WHAT WAS ISSUED ON THE SPECIAL NOTICE.
THOSE ARE THE ITEMS THAT YOU CAN CONSIDER, UM, THIS EVENING.
SO IF THERE HAVE BEEN OTHER, UM, AGENDAS THAT HAVE BEEN CIRCULATED BECAUSE OF THE OPEN LEGAL LAW REQUIREMENTS FOR SPECIAL MEETINGS TONIGHT, YOU ARE CONSTRAINED TO THOSE ITEMS THAT ARE LISTED ON THAT FEBRUARY 3RD, 2023 MEETING NOTICE.
SO WHAT CHANGE DOES IT MAKE ON THIS ONE WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US? PAGE ONE, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
IS THERE A COPY OF THAT THAT I CAN GET, PLEASE? OKAY.
UH, LET US GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE AGENDA.
AND THEN, UH, MS. UH, MOBILE WOULD DO WHAT IT IS THAT SHE NEEDS TO DO.
IF YOU JUST GET A LOVE FOR EVERYBODY.
THAT ROOM JUST PRONOUNCE
[1. Approve the agenda.]
ONE IS, UH, A MOTION TO, UH, APPROVE THE AGENDA THAT IS BEFORE US.AND AFTER THAT, WE WILL HAVE YOUR RECALL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA THAT WAS CIRCULATED ON FEBRUARY 3RD, CONSISTING OF 13 AGENDA ITEMS. CAN WE GIVE A SECOND? SECOND.
UH, COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, UH, VICE CHAIR? SURE.
AND EX OFFICIO MEMBERS? UH, ALDERMAN PRILL.
[2. Review the Commission's guiding principles.]
AGENDA ITEM, UH, TWO.YOU SHOULD HAVE IT IN YOUR, UM, YOUR PACKET.
IT IS GUIDE PRINCIPALS THAT WAS APPROVED AT THE VERY BEGINNING, UM, UH, WOULD BE APPROVED, UH, BEFORE, ACTUALLY, BEFORE WE RE APPROVE THE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, PLAN.
UH, THINGS THAT WILL ARE, GUIDE US IN OUR DISCUSSIONS AND GUIDE US IN MAKING, UH, DECISIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE FOLLOWING OUR, UH, MISSION.
SO THAT SHOULD BE IN YOUR, UH, PACKET.
SO IF WE COULD START WITH COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND TONIGHT.
PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE EQUAL TIME, RESPECT OTHERS OPINION.
SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
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STAY FOCUSED.I'M GLAD WE HAD 'EM IN OUR PACKET CUZ I DON'T KNOW MANY PEOPLE THAT COULD SEE 'EM FROM HERE.
I'M JUST, I'M, I'M, I'M JUST SAYING
[3. Receive public comments.]
ITEM NUMBER THREE IS THAT IF HE RECEIVES PUBLIC COMMENT, LET US BE REMINDED THAT PUBLIC COMMENT IS, UH, LIMITED TO, UH, FOUR MINUTES.DO WE HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT? YES, HE DOES.
FIRST, UH, FOR, I'D JUST LIKE TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
I'M WITH, UH, EAST CAROLINA UNIVERSITY, UH, AND I'M PART OF THE, UH, PLANNING DEPARTMENT.
UH, I'M ON HERE ON BEHALF OF ASSIGNMENT OF AN ASSIGNMENT, AND I'M JUST HERE TO GET TO KNOW WHAT, UM, THIS COMMISSION DOES, UM, AND THEIR PURPOSE AND THEIR GOALS FOR NEW BERN.
UH, WHERE DO I, WHERE DO I SPEAK? HI, UM, I'M RUTH COOPER.
I LIVE AT 10 22 COLLAGEN WAY IN TRENT WOODS.
MY HUSBAND DOG AND I MOVED HERE A YEAR AGO FROM CINCINNATI.
WE LOVE CRAVEN COUNTY AND NEW BENE.
UM, ONE THING WE DON'T LOVE IS LITTER.
AND I THINK I'VE TALKED TO YOU SOME OF YOU BEFORE.
UH, OBVIOUSLY ALDERMAN VEST AT THE, UM, THE ALDERMAN BOARD ABOUT WANTING A REALLY MAJOR CLEANUP, ESPECIALLY IN THE DUFFY FIELD AREA.
I THINK THERE WAS ONE DONE IN ABOUT 2016, BUT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S BEEN LITTLE ONES DONE RECENTLY, BUT NOT A MAJOR ONE.
THEY GOT PUBLIC WORKS INVOLVED CUTTING DOWN OVERGROWTHS AND CLEARING UP ALL THESE VACANT LOTS THAT HAVE WASTE, HEIGHT, GRASS, AND WEED.
SO ANYWAY, UM, WHILE I RARELY SEE LITTER IN MY AREA OF TRENTON WOODS, I'M SURPRISED AT HOW MUCH I SEE IN OTHER PLACES IN CRAVEN COUNTY.
AND WHILE THE COUNTY NOW DOES FOUR MAIN SWEEPS A YEAR, I DON'T THINK WE HAVE AN ORGANIZED PROGRAM TO PREVENT LITTERING AND ILLEGAL DUMPING OF TRASH.
RECENTLY, WHILE IN THE DUFFY FIELD NEIGHBORHOOD, I ASKED THE MEN FROM THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENTS WHO WERE RESURFACING A STREET, IF ANY OF THEM HAD TAKEN PART IN THE BIG CLEANUP IN DUFFY FIELD SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
ONE MAN SAID HE HAD, HE ADDED, HE WAS VERY DISHEARTENED TO COME TO THE AREA AGAIN A WEEK OR TWO LATER AND SEE AS MUCH LITTER IN TRASH AS HAS BEEN THERE.
BEFORE THE CLEANUP, I MET WITH TWO OTHER PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT TO DISCUSS STORM WATER MANAGEMENT.
AND WHEN I MENTIONED THE RECENT CLEANUP, THEY ALSO WERE DISCOURAGED ABOUT HOW MUCH DIFFERENCE THE CLEANUP WOULD MAKE IF PEOPLE DIDN'T STOP LITTERING AND DUMPING TRASH IN THE ENVIRONMENT.
UH, MANY PEOPLE FACING LITTER FIELD COMMUNITY SKILLS DISAPPOINTED ABOUT THE STATE OF THEIR COMMUNITY AND WISH IT WERE CLEANER.
HOWEVER, THEY HESITATE TO REMOVE LITTER FROM THEIR COMMUNITY CUZ OF CONCERNS SUCH AS D SPREAD DISEASE SPREAD, OR INJURY FROM HIDDEN NEEDLES.
AND, UH, I THINK, YOU KNOW, ONE OF YOUR MAIN GOALS IS TO APPROVE THE APPEARANCE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
SO I THINK REMOVING LITTER IN ALL OF THIS OTHER OVERGROWTH WOULD HELP.
UM, BUT PEOPLE OFTEN FEEL A SENSE OF FUTILITY IN PICKING UP LITTER AS SO MUCH QUICKLY REAPPEARS.
UM, WHILE BEING OUTSIDE IS ONE OF THE BEST WAYS TO BOOST OUR MENTAL HEALTH.
THAT EFFECT IS DAMPENED WHEN THE OUTDOORS IS TRASHED WITH PLASTIC AND LIT.
RECENTLY, LAST MONTH, PITT COUNTY ANNOUNCED AND PUBLICIZED AN ANTI LITTER CAMPAIGN CALLED LITTER FREE FOR YOU AND AND ME.
IT HAS THREE STAGES, HOWEVER, ONE FOCUSES ON EDUCATION.
PART TWO WILL INVOLVE BANNER COUNTY BUILDINGS AND A FOURTH GRADE LITTER CLEANUP CHALLENGE.
PART THREE, TAR OR TICKET WILL FOCUS ON EDUCATING THE PUBLIC ON ENFORCEMENT OF TIMES FOR LIT A LEGAL THEFT, DUMPING AND UNSECURED LOADS, WHICH CAN LEAD TO POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS SITUATIONS.
THEY WILL EVEN PROVIDE TARPS TO TRUCK DRIVERS SO WE CAN, SO THEY CAN SECURE THEIR LOADS.
YOU KNOW, MY NEIGHBOR IS BOBBY DARDEN AND HE SAYS THEY EVEN WILL GIVE TARPS TO THE TRUCK DRIVERS THAT BRING IN, UM, THINGS TO THE, THE BIG LANDFILL OUT AT TULO.
ANYWAY, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, THE SUN JOURNAL HAD AN ARTICLE THAT SAID STEPHEN HUGHES, GREG MURPHY AND STEVE TYSON ARE CONCERNED ABOUT LITTER ALONG OUR ROADWAYS.
FOR 35 YEARS, TEXAS HAS HAD A DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS ANTI-LITTER, CAMPAIGN BULLY NELSON AND OTHERS HAVE DONE PUBLIC SERVICE SONGS AND ANNOUNCEMENT TO PREVENT LITTERING.
MY HUSBAND AND I TOOK PART IN SATURDAY'S CLEAN SUITE.
WE PICKED UP EIGHT BIG ORANGE BAGS OF
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TRASH AND LITTER.AND THIS WAS JUST FROM ONE BLOCK OF BLOOMFIELD, ONE BLOCK OF PAVY AND ONE BLOCK OF GREEN STREET, EIGHT BIG BAGS.
UM, I PICKED UP LITTER WAS BOTH FROM MY CHURCH ALONG THE PARKWAY BY THE SINGER TOWER UNWELL BELLY.
I DON'T PLAN TO KEEP PICKING UP OTHER PEOPLE'S TRASH
PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT LITTERING IS ILLEGAL.
YOU KNOW, I RECENTLY WAS TALKING TO A SMART WOMAN AT MY CHURCH AND SHE DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS ILLEGAL.
SHE KNEW IT WASN'T A GOOD IDEA, IT WASN'T A NICE THING TO DO, BUT SHE DID NOT KNOW IT WAS ILLEGAL.
UM, PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW THAT IT'S ILLEGAL, IT HAS CONSEQUENCES.
YOU KNOW, PERHAPS SIGNS THAT SAY NO LITTERING VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED MIGHT HELP.
I MEAN, NOW THERE'S SOME REALLY OLD SIGNS THAT SAY NO DUMPING OR SOMETHING, BUT THEY NEVER MENTIONED THAT THERE MIGHT BE CONSEQUENCES.
AT LEAST THE ONES I'VE SEEN THOUGH.
I THINK IT'S TIME FOR FRA COUNTY AND NEWBURN AND MAYBE THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO SPEND SOME TIME, MONEY, AND ENERGY ON AN ANTI-LITTER CAMPAIGN.
IT'LL SAVE MONEY IN THE LONG RUN.
PERHAPS THE COUNTING NEW BURN COULD JOIN FORCES TO HELP DECREASE LITTERING TRASH DUMPING AND UNSECURED LOADS.
AND, UH, I'VE GOT COPIES OF WHAT I JUST SAID AND ALSO THE PITT COUNTY LITTER FREE THING AND, AND ALSO JUST SOME SAMPLES OF POSSIBLE SIGNS.
AND I HAVE FREE T-SHIRTS IF ANYBODY WANTS.
AND, UH, I, I WORE, I WORE WINE AS I WAS PICKING UP TRASH AND DUFFY FUEL TODAY.
AND WHEN I CAME HOME AND LIKE, RINSED IT OUT, IT BLED EVEN IN COLD WATER.
SO THESE HAVE BEEN WASHED ONE TIME AND DRIED, UH, MY HUSBAND DID THAT AS I WAS GETTING READY TONIGHT.
SO ANYWAY, HERE'S A COPY FOR EVERYBODY, I THINK.
UM, JUST LEAVE IT THERE WITH, UH, MR. STEVE.
WE USED TO HAVE, UM, WE USED TO HAVE A MAYOR HERE THAT WAS REAL, REALLY, UM, REALLY A ADVOCATE OF GETTING RID OF LITTER
UM, OTHER COMMENTS? MR. PRY? UH, LIMITED FOUR MINUTES.
ANYBODY ELSE BE SPEAKING WITH YOU OR GYPS YOURSELF? MR. FRY? WERE ANYBODY BE SPEAKING WITH YOU? EGYPTIAN JUST MAY.
ABOUT THE, UH, MINUTES FROM NOVEMBER 9TH WHERE I TALKED ABOUT, UM, UH, JONES STREET, UH, PROPERTY ON JONES STREET THAT I WANTED TO BUILD A HOUSE ON AND LIVE THERE WITH MY FAMILY.
UM, IT'S AS THE WHOLE, THE PROCESS STARTED ON OCTOBER.
I CONTACTED THE CITY CLERK AND, UM, ALSO THE, THE, UM, KATRINA MM-HMM.
SO I STARTED THE, THE PROCESS OF MAKING AN OFFER, WHICH IS STILL AT CITY HALL RIGHT NOW.
MY MONEY'S STILL AT CITY HALL IN THE VAULT.
UM, THE, UH, SO THAT, THAT, UH, NOVEMBER MEETING, UM, THERE WERE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS, WHICH THERE ARE NOT, THERE'S ONLY ONE COMMENT THAT'S ON THE NOVEMBER, UH, MEETING.
THERE WERE, THERE WERE, THERE WERE, I THINK THERE WERE AT LEAST THREE QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION.
THEY, PEOPLE, THE COMMISSIONERS WERE CONCERNED THAT I WAS GOING TO, UM, BUILD SOMETHING AND, AND NOT LIVE THERE.
THEY WERE, THEY EMPHASIZED THAT THEY WANTED ME TO, THEY WANTED A, A FAMILY TO LIVE THERE.
UM, AND SO I, AND SO THAT MEETING WENT PRETTY WELL.
UM, THE NEXT, THE NEXT MONTH, UH, I CAME BACK AND WAS PRETTY MUCH TOLD TO GO AWAY BECAUSE THE COMMISSION WAS IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH SOMEONE.
THEY COULDN'T TELL ME, UM, WHO THEY'RE IN A PARTNERSHIP WITH.
THEY SAID THAT THEY HAD PLANS AND THEY HAD BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS FOR FOUR MONTHS.
SO I WENT, I WENT BACK TO THE CLERK AND I WAS, I TOLD HER I WAS CONFUSED BECAUSE THE COMMISSION, UM, AND, UM, THE COMMISSION HAD TOLD ME THAT THEY WERE INTERESTED IN SELLING THIS PROPERTY.
I HAD STARTED THE UPSET BID PROCESS, OR I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF STARTING THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
EVERYTHING WAS, UM, LOOKING GOOD.
AND THEN I WAS TOLD TO GO AWAY.
THIS, THE, THE, THE COMMISSION HAS PLANS.
SO I WENT BACK AND I LOOKED FOR THE PAST FOUR MONTHS AND THERE WAS NO MENTION OF JONES STREET FOR FOUR MONTHS.
AND I WENT BACK EVEN FURTHER AND CHECKED ALL THE MINUTES AND THERE WAS NO MENTION FOR THE WHOLE YEAR ON THIS PROPERTY THAT SUDDENLY, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COMMISSION.
AND THEN, UM, SO I WENT, I WENT AWAY AND, UH, WENT TO THE ALDERMAN MEETING WHERE THE COMMISSION PRESENTED PLANS FOR THAT, THAT THAT PIECE OF
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PROPERTY.THEY WANT TO BUILD FOUR HOUSES OVER THERE, TINY HOUSES, AND THEY WANNA RENT THEM OUT.
SO I'M, I'M GUESSING THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT ON THIS, UH, LIST.
THAT IS ONE OF THESE NUMBERS ON HERE.
THE, THE, THE, THE SURPLUS PROPERTY IS, IT'S NOT ON THERE.
BUT, UH, BUT THAT'S WHERE THE, THE PLANS ARE.
SO I'M, I'M KIND OF QUESTIONING LIKE, WHY, WHY AM IS IS MY OFFER NOT ON THE AGENDA FOR TONIGHT? OR, AND, UM, UM, LET'S SEE ANY MORE TIME IN.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE, UH, THE PLAN THAT YOU GUYS HAVE TO BUILD FOUR HOUSES AND RENT THEM OUT TO PEOPLE, UM, IS ISN'T WHAT YOU WERE EMPHASIZING WHEN I ORIGINALLY GAVE MY PLAN.
YOU KNOW, I SAID, I, I WANT TO LIVE HERE.
I WANT TO LIVE, I WANNA BUILD A HOUSE AND LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD WITH MY FAMILY WHERE I'VE ALREADY BEEN LIVING FOR 10 YEARS.
I MOVED MY BUSINESS HERE, UH, THREE YEARS AGO AND I DID.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A PERFECT PLACE.
I, I, IT'S RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PARK.
I GO TO THAT PARK ALMOST EVERY DAY.
I, I WOULD, I THINK IT'S A PERFECT PLACE FOR ME TO, TO LIVE.
AND, UH, IF YOU GUYS ARE GONNA BUILD FOUR HOUSES THERE AND RENT THEM OUT, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT THE RIGHT DIRECTION TO RENT STUFF OUT.
IT WASN'T WHAT YOU WANTED, YOU SEEMED LIKE YOU WANTED ME TO DO.
YOU'RE GONNA DIVIDE 'EM INTO FOUR PARCELS, WHICH I DON'T THINK, UM, EVEN IF I WANTED TO, I COULDN'T DO IT UNTIL JANUARY.
THERE'S SOME RULE, YOU HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL JANUARY TO CHANGE TWO PARCELS INTO FOUR PARCELS.
YOU ALSO SAY YOU WANT TO GET THE THING DONE IN BY THE END OF SUMMER WHEN THERE'S NO, I YOU DON'T HAVE ANY, UM, IT JUST SEEMS LIKE AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK AND DOESN'T SEEM LIKE, UM, I'M BEING TREATED FAIRLY ON THIS.
I THINK THAT I SHOULD BE ON THE AGENDA OR THE, THAT PROPERTY SHOULD BE, UH, ON THE SURPLUS LIST OR THE UPSET BID SHOULD HAVE UP UPSET B***H PROCESS SHOULD HAVE STARTED.
AND IF THERE IS A, A PARTNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, THEY SHOULD BID UP.
UH, UH, UH, AGAIN, WE WILL, UH, WE WILL BE ON THE MARCH AGENDA.
WE NEED TO RECEIVE THE CALL TODAY.
LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION, AND I NEED TO DIRECT THIS TO OUR ATTORNEY.
WHAT'S THE PROCESS? HE'S, HE'S ASKING FOR RIGHT NOW? IT'S, ARE WE IN LINE WITH WHAT WE SUPPOSED TO DO BASED ON HIS CONVERSATION AND BASED ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE PROPERTY THAT SUPPOSEDLY IS GOING TO BE DONE? WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? WHAT CAN WE DO? I THINK THE QUESTION IS, HAS THE COMMISSION FOLLOWED ITS ADOPTED POLICIES FOR SALEING PROPERTY IN THE REDEVELOPMENT HEARING? OKAY.
UM, AND I DON'T HAVE THOSE POLICIES IN FRONT OF ME TODAY.
GENERALLY SOMEONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN PURCHASING A PROJECT BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WILL COME MAKE A PRESENTATION.
THAT, UH, PRESENTATION WILL BE DIGESTED BY THE HOUSING WORK GROUP.
THEY'LL COME BACK AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO EITHER INITIATE THE UPSET B***H PROCESS OR REJECT THE OFFER.
BACK IN, I THINK IT WAS DECEMBER, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, UM, MR. FRY, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, MADE AN OFFICER PURCHASE, WHICH WAS SUBSEQUENTLY REJECTED BY THE COMMISSION.
MR. FRY PRESENTED A SECOND OFFER.
AS I UNDERSTAND IT, THAT SECOND OFFICER PURCHASE HAS NOT BEEN PRESENTED TO THIS COMMISSION, UM, TO DATE.
SO THE FIRST OFFER WASN'T ACCEPTED.
AND MR. FRY SUBMITTED A SECOND OFFER.
SO THE OTHER OFFER THAT WAS PUT ON THERE, WE ACCEPTED THAT OFFER, THIS BOARD ACCEPTED THAT OFFER.
WHICH OFFER ARE YOU REFERRING THE OFFER THAT, UH, TO PUT THE THREE OR FOUR HOUSES ON THE PROPERTY? DID WE ACCEPT THAT OFFER? WE HAVEN'T, NO.
UH, COMMISSIONER PARHAM, THERE ARE SOME, I, I APPRECIATE MR. FRY COMING AND BRINGING THAT TO US.
UM, AND THERE, THERE WAS SOME OUT OF ORDER ITEMS MENTIONED IN THAT PRESENTATION.
SO IT SOUNDS A LITTLE MORE NEGATIVE THAN IT TRULY IS THE POSSIBILITY OF
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THE THREE HOUSES.I'M JUST SAYING THERE, THERE WAS A LOT OF THINGS IT SOUNDED LIKE, WELL, IN THERE IS NO OTHER PERSON THAT HAS MADE THAT A BID FOR THAT PROPERTY.
BUT HE WILL BE ON AND HE WILL BE ON, UM, JULIUS THE AGENDA.
WELL, WE WERE, ACCORDING TO THE RE AMENDED AGENDA, WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DEAL WITH MR. FRY.
IT HAS, FOLLOWING OUR PROTOCOL, IT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED TO THE HOUSING WORK GROUP.
AND WE WERE PREPARED TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION TONIGHT.
BUT ACCORDING TO STATUTE, WE CANNOT, THAT ITEM WAS REMOVED BECAUSE OF THE SPECIAL MEETING CONCEPT.
WE'RE FOLLOWING THE PROTOCOLS.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER PUBLIC COMMENT? YES, SIR.
MY NAME IS GEORGE STATO AND, UH, I WAS HELPING MR. FRY, WHAT'S HIS PROPOSAL? AND THE FIRST PROPOSAL, JUST TO MAKE THINGS A LITTLE BIT CLEAR, CAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF CONFUSION.
I KNOW FOUR MINUTES HAVE BEEN PLACED OUT THERE AND DRAFTED.
AND THEN THEY WERE NOT APPROVED FROM THAT PREVIOUS MEETING, AFTER HIS PRESENTATION.
SO I GUESS THE MINUTES THAT WERE PUT TOGETHER BY THE BOARD WAS NODDING ALIGNED FOR AGREEMENT CUZ THEY WERE GONNA AMEND IT.
WE HAVEN'T SEEN THOSE AMENDED MINUTES AND THEY HAVEN'T BEEN APPROVED.
SO THERE WAS A LOT OF CONFUSION AFTER HIS PRESENTATION AND AFTER HIS PRESENTATION WHEN WE CAME BACK.
UM, IT SEEMS TO ME THAT THE WORD PARTNERSHIP WAS THROWN OUT THERE NUMEROUS TIMES DURING HIS PRESENT.
UM, WHEN, WHEN HE CAME BACK FOR HIS ANSWER TO HIS BID PROCESS, WHICH WE FILED BY PROTOCOL.
AND I, MR. BRAHAM MENTIONED THAT PARTNERSHIP WAS NEVER REVEALED.
AS WE NOTED, AS WE MOVED FORWARD DURING CERTAIN MEETINGS, THERE WAS ANOTHER MEETING AT CITY, CITY OF HALL THAT WAS HELD REGARDING THESE PROPERTIES.
AND IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS GOING TO BE AN ALDERMAN WHO WAS GOING TO TAKE MONEY FROM CERTAIN FUNDS TO BE PLACED IN FOR THE RDCS PROJECT THAT WAS PUT UP FOR A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION THAT WASN'T APPROVED THAT SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T STILL HAVE FUNDING.
UM, THERE WAS A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, THERE WAS A LOT OF QUESTIONS ASKED AT THE TIME.
THERE STILL WAS CONFUSION AT THAT MEETING AS WHEN THAT WAS GONNA TAKE PLACE IF THE, IF IT WAS GONNA BE FUNDED, WHERE THE FUNDING WAS COMING.
SO THERE WAS A LOT OF BASIC OPEN QUESTIONS AT THAT MEETING STILL.
SO IF YOU'RE SAYING YOU HAD FOUR MONTHS PRIOR TO LAST OCTOBER, THIS IS A LONG TIME FOR A PROJECT FOR FOUR HOUSES TO BE BUILT.
I WOULDN'T BE IN THE INDUSTRY IF I WAS A BUILDER WAITING FROM OCTOBER TO NOW WHEN HIS PRESENTATION WAS BROUGHT FORWARD.
WE SAID THAT THE REASON WE'RE REJECTING IT, WE'RE GONNA DO A PROJECT BY THE WAY IN JANUARY HERE.
WE'RE AT THIS DATE, FEBRUARY PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN FINALIZED AS FAR AS I KNOW THAT IT HAS BROUGHT, BROUGHT FORTH TO ANY COMMISSION SAYING THESE HAVE BEEN FINALIZED.
WE SAW A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION, DIDN'T HAVE FINANCING.
SO THE WAY THIS PROJECT SEEMS LIKE IT'S STILL IN FRUITION AND HIS HIT OFFER WAS A BID OFFER THROUGH THE PROCESS BECAUSE THE PROPERTY WAS AVAILABLE TO DO THAT.
WE DID OUR RESEARCH AHEAD OF TIME.
AND SO THE REASONING FOR THE REJECTION IS REALLY KIND OF SUSPECT AT THIS POINT BECAUSE YOU HAD AN OFFER.
YOU HAD, UM, LEGITIMATE, THERE WAS NO CONCERNS ABOUT HIS PRESENTATION WHATSOEVER.
THERE WAS ANY NEGATIVE CONFIDENCE.
ONLY ONE NEGATIVE COMMENT THAT I REMEMBER SAID LIKE WHEN YOU WERE GONNA START, AND THAT WAS TOO LONG OF A START DATE, WHICH WOULD'VE BEEN JANUARY NOW.
WE WAITED ALL THIS TIME, HE COULD HAVE STARTED THE PROJECT.
YOUR GUYS ARE LOOKING FOR FUNDING ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS, ANSWER TO MINUTES, ANSWERS TO OTHER ALDERMAN'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROJECT AND WHERE IT'S GOING.
SO AT THIS RATE, I DON'T SEE YOUR PROJECT FLOATING UNTIL, I DON'T, WHO KNOWS WHEN IT'S GONNA BE.
CUZ AGAIN, A LOT OF ALDERMAN'S BRING UP THAT WE WANNA SEE SOME RESULTS.
I DON'T SEE THAT BOARD EVER GETTING TO THAT POSITION.
AND HERE HE HAD A LEGITIMATE BOARD.
HE COULD'VE STARTED THE PROJECT BY NOW.
SO THAT THAT'S THE DISCREPANCY.
AND I DON'T THINK HIS, HE RECEIVED ENOUGH ANSWERS OF WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN THAT THERE WAS SPECULATION OR TALK, BUT NOTHING DOCUMENTED.
A MINUTE MEETING SAYING THAT YOU DID HAVE DISCUSSIONS FOUR MONTHS PRIOR TO THAT.
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OUR PRESENTATION.WE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE A PRESENTATION FOR THAT LAND IF IT WASN'T AVAILABLE.
SO WE FOLLOWED EVERYTHING BY PROCEDURE.
IT HASN'T BEEN TAKEN OFF WHATEVER LIST YOU GOT A SURPLUS LIST OR ANOTHER LIST.
AND IT HASN'T ADDRESSED PROPERLY WHY HE, HE HASN'T RECEIVED, YOU KNOW, A LEGITIMATE ANSWER FROM THE BOARD BASICALLY.
BECAUSE IF YOUR PROJECT IS NOT UNDERWAY YET, HOW CAN YOU REJECT THE CITIZEN'S ATTEMPT THROUGH THE REGULAR LEGAL PROCESS OF A BID PROCESS THAT YOU PUBLISHED? AND YOU WANT TO HAVE PEOPLE COME HERE AND BUILD HOMES.
SO IT JUST DOESN'T SEEM RIGHT FOR ANYBODY ELSE WHO'S GONNA BID ON ANY PROJECTS THROUGH YOUR BOARD IF THEY WANT TO BUILD A HOUSE.
I'VE HEARD TINY HOMES FOR VETERANS THAN I'VE HEARD NOW.
IT WAS GOING TO BE, I MEAN, THERE'S TWO LOTS.
ALL OF A SUDDEN YOU'RE CONVERTING AND SPENDING MORE MONEY TO CONVERT THE, THE TWO LOTS INTO THREE OR PUT FOUR BUILDINGS ON FOUR LOTS.
THERE'S PLENTY OF LAND THAT YOU GUYS HAVE ON THE REDEVELOPMENT THE CITY OWNS THAT YOU'RE PUTTING AN AWFUL LOT OF MONEY IN PRO IN, IN PROCESS INTO THIS ONE PROJECT THAT YOU'RE BUILDING TRYING TO BUILD FOUR HOUSES.
AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S REALLY TRULY GOING TO VETERANS, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S MORE TALK AND NOT ANY OFFICIAL DOCUMENTATION OR OFFICIAL NAME.
AND ITS THAT YOU HAVE AGREED ON FOR THIS PROCESS, BUT IT'S A LOT OF EFFORT.
AND HERE HE COULD ESTABLISH IT IF YOU, YOU KNOW, IF YOU PUT THINGS THROUGH THE PROCESS LIKE HE DID WHEN HE FILED, YOU WOULD'VE BIDS, YOU WOULD'VE ANY CLOSURES.
AND THOSE CLOSURES WOULD'VE ENDED UP HIM STARTING A PROJECT AND BUILDING A HOUSE.
AND YOU WANT OTHER PEOPLE, I'M SURE TO START BUILDING HOUSES MM-HMM.
BUT YEAH, I THINK THINK HE NEEDS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPLANATION AND THE PUBLIC NEEDS MORE EXPLANATION ON THAT.
WE HAVE ANY COMMENT? ALL RIGHT.
[4. Approve minutes from the December 14, 2022, November 9, 2022, and January 11, 2023, meetings;]
UH, APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE DECEMBER 14TH, NOVEMBER 9TH AND JANUARY 11TH.AND WHAT I WOULD, UH, I'LL, I WOULD ASK IF YOU COULD POSSIBLY DO THAT ATTORNEY, JAMIE, I DON'T THINK MAKE DIFFERENCE, BUT YOU LET NOTE ON EACH ONE SEPARATELY, YOU CAN VOTE ON THEM SEPARATELY.
YOU CAN ONLY VOTE ON ALL OF THEM TOGETHER IF THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS.
I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEAL WITH THE AMEND SEPARATELY.
DOESN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRE, OKAY.
WELL, I I THINK WE NEED TO DEAL WITH MINUTES SEPARATELY.
WELL, LET'S START WITH NOVEMBER 9TH.
THIS IS A, A QUESTION FOR YOU JAMIE.
I, I HAVE HERE THE NOVEMBER MINUTES THAT ARE CORRECT, THAT HAVE BEEN CORRECTED FROM AS THEY'RE SIGNED BY THE CHAIRMAN AND THE RECORDING SECRETARY.
SO WHY ARE WE BACK LOOKING AT THE NOVEMBER 9TH MINUTES? THAT'S, I DON'T PLAY A ROLE IN ASSIGNING THAT.
SO THAT MIGHT BE A, A, A QUESTION BETTER FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
SO, UM, WE HAD NOVEMBER THE NINTH MINUTES, UM, I THINK DURING THAT MEETING THAT THERE WAS A CORRECTION FROM THE WORD ATLAS TO A V O I 11 ENGINEERING ATLAS MM-HMM.
AND THAT, THAT IS IN THE SEVEN MINUTES.
SO WHAT HAPPENED? WE, THERE WERE COMPLAINTS THAT WENT TO LEADERSHIP, MEANING THE CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR SAYING THAT OUR MINUTES WERE INCORRECT.
MY INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO GO BACK, REVIEW THE MINUTES AND LOOK AT ALL OF THE GRAMMATICAL CORRECTIONS.
AND SO IF YOU REMEMBER AT THE JANUARY MEETING, THERE WERE UNFORTUNATELY THREE SETS OF NOVEMBER MEETING MINUTES.
THE, THE INCORRECT ONES, THE ONES CORRECTED WITH THE MARKUPS AND ALSO THE ONES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU TODAY.
SO THAT WAS THE DIRECTOR THAT CAME TO ME, UM, FROM THE LEADERSHIP.
AND SO YOU MADE, YOU MADE THEM SUBMISSION FROM JUDGE US TODAY? YES.
YOU UNDERSTAND YOU GOT LOSSES TOO.
SO I MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE IN NOVEMBER 9TH, 2022 MINUTES MOMENT.
I WOULD STILL LIKE THEM TO BE CORRECTED.
AS WE NOTED, THEY'RE NOT WHAT YOU SAID.
HE JUST SAID NO, THE OLD ONES WERE, BUT THE ONES IN OUR PACKAGE TONIGHT ARE NOT.
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DISCUSSION.I TOLD TOTALLY UNDER MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT KIP THIS I THOUGHT HE SAID WHEN HE WAS HOLDING IN HIS HAND WAS CORRECT.
WE HAVE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY APPROVED WERE CORRECT.
THE ONES THAT HAVE BEEN RESUBMITTED FOR US TO CONSIDER TONIGHT NEED, NEED TO BE CHANGED.
ERROR IS STILL IN THIS SET OF MINUTES THAT WE HAVE HERE.
SO YOU MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THEM WITH THE CHANGE OF ATLAS DEBT TO ATLAS THAT THEY BE AMENDED.
WOULD YOU DO THAT SIR? MAKE MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AMENDED WITH THE CORRECTIONS STATED.
THIS MEETING, UM, FOR THE NOVEMBER 9TH, 2022.
CAN WE GIVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND THAT.
MOTION ACCEPT, AMEND FOR DECEMBER 14TH, 2022.
QUESTIONS, DISCUSSIONS FIRST QUESTIONS ALL.
JANUARY THE 11TH, UH, 2022 CHAIR MAKING MOTION THAT WE TABLE THE APPROVAL OF THE JANUARY MINUTES.
THERE ARE SEGMENTS OF IT THAT ARE MISSING AND SO WE SHOULD MEET, HAVE SAID WE TABLE THE APPROVAL OF THESE MINUTES UNTIL IT CAN BE CORRECTLY RESUBMITTED TO US NEXT MONTH.
DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
[5. Receive a report from the Strategic Planning Session conducted on February 4, 2023.]
FIVE.UH, RECEIVE A REPORT FROM THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION CONDUCTED ON FEBRUARY 4TH, UH, 2023.
UM, IF YOU WILL, ON NOTE, WE DID NOT HAVE THAT, UM, STRATEGIC PLANNING, UH, MEETING FOR, UM, THE REASON THAT, UM, IF YOU RECALL BACK IN, UH, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN OUR JANUARY MEETING OR ALL THE MEETINGS, THERE WERE THINGS THAT CAME TO LIGHT REGARDING, UM, SOME, WHAT THE COMMISSION CAME TO, WHAT IT, UM, CAN'T DO.
SO THE ATTORNEYS AND, UM, HAVE BEEN WORKING ON CHART, MEMO AND ALL THOSE THINGS TO ADDRESS SOME QUESTIONS BEFORE WE REALLY GO INTO A STRATEGIC PLANNING, UH, SESSION.
SO WE REALLY CAN DO OUR PRIORITIES THE WAY THEY NEED TO BE DONE BASED ON THAT, UH, THAT INFO INFORMATION.
AND SO I WOULD ASK, UM, IF ATTORNEY, UH, JAMIE WOULD JUST GIVE A, A SMALL SYNOPSIS OF, OF THAT SO THEY WILL UNDERSTAND WHY YOU DIDN'T HAVE, CAUSE THAT'S OUR REASON FOR NOT HAVING THE MEETING.
WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO THAT NOW OR WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO ADDRESS THAT LATER IN THE AGENDA? IF, UH, YOU CAN ADDRESS IT IN, UM, ON THE, ONE OF THE OTHER ITEMS, BUT I WANTED TO JUST LET HIM KNOW THAT YOU WOULD BE ADDRESSING IT.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ADDRESS IT WHEN, OKAY.
[6. Discuss the process for nominating and electing a Chair and Vice-Chair.]
SIX, DISCUSS THE PART PROCESS FOR NOMINATING AND ELECTING A CHAIR AND A, UM, VICE CHAIR.THE, UM, COMMISSION WAS SEATED IN AUGUST OF 2018.
UM, BUT THE COMMISSION WAS, UH, ADOPTED.
A ORDINANCE WAS PASSED TO, UH, CREATE A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IN FEBRUARY OF THAT SAME YEAR, BUT WE WERE NOT SEATED UNTIL AUGUST.
AND SO, UM, WANTED TO JUST, UH, OPEN THAT UP FOR DISCUSSION, EITHER TO HAVE, UM, ELECTIONS IN MARCH OR MOVE THEM TO AUGUST BASED ON THE TIME THAT WE WAS, YOU KNOW, THAT WE WERE SEATED.
IT IS FULLY UP TO THE COMMISSION, BUT I JUST WANTED TO OPEN IT UP AND SEE IF YOU HAD ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
AND THEN I'LL JOIN IT LATER TOO.
WE'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT IT, SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO DO, OR, OR, OR WHATEVER.
COMMISSIONER WALLACE? I DIDN'T SAY NOTHING.
DID I SAY, DID I SAY, YOU SAID IN FAITH? NO, MA'AM.
YOU, YOU WERE LOOKING AT MASSAGES THOUGHT SURE.
I'M SURE, UH, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT OF OUR TWO NEW MEMBERS COMING ON BOARD AND HAVING AN OPPORTUNITY TO KINDA DELVE INTO THINGS AS WELL AS THE TERMS OF CURRENT BOARD MEMBERS EXPIRING
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RIGHT AROUND THAT SAME TIME.BUT IT MADE SENSE TO ME TO, FOR US TO WAIT INTO AN AUGUST TIMEFRAME MM-HMM.
UH, CAUSE THE BOARD HAS OBVIOUSLY CHANGED AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO CHANGE MM-HMM.
SO THAT WOULD BE LOGICAL TO ME TO WAIT UNTIL AUGUST AND ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS, UM, TERMS EXPIRE IN AUGUST ON DIFFERENT YEARS AS, UH, THE WAY THAT IT, IT, WHICH YOU WAS SET UP, SIR.
SO NOBODY CAN MOVE TO CHARLOTTE.
[7. Consider adopting the Surplus List.]
CONSIDER ADOPTING THE, UH, SURPLUS LIST.THE HOUSE OF WORKING GROUP HAS, UH, MET AND COME UP WITH THE SERVICE LIST THAT WE WERE ASKED TO COME UP WITH AND THAT WE'VE BEEN MEETING FOR A LONG TIME.
SO, UM, VICE CHAIR
WELL, WE HAVE PRESENTED A, A LIST OF ISSUES OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT, THAT OUR OWN IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA BY THE VARIOUS ENTITIES, EITHER THE CITY BY ITSELF, CITY, COUNTY, UH, JOINTLY OR JUST BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
UH, THE ONES THAT ARE BLOCKED OUT IN RED, UH, ARE THE, ARE THE LIST THAT WE CREATED THAT OF PROP REDEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT FOR SALE.
THE DARK ONES THAT YOU CAN'T READ
AND, AND THAT IS THE PROBLEM WITH THIS, THIS PARTICULAR LIST IS YOU CAN'T READ IT.
UH, THE, THE LIST WAS ORIGINALLY CREATED AND REVIEWED BY THE HOUSING WORK GROUP.
IT WAS A PRETTY SIMPLE LIST SENT TO THE, THE CITY.
AND IN THE ORIGINAL SUBMITTER WE SENT MAPS OF WHERE ALL THE PROPERTIES ARE LOCATED THAT WE, UH, DECLARED TO BE NOT FOR SALE.
SO THAT THEY COULD SEE EVERYBODY COULD SEE WHERE THEY ARE.
UM, AND THIS LIST, LIKE I SAY, IT'S ACCURATE I GUESS.
UM, BUT I WAS UNABLE TO READ IT TO CONFIRM IT AGAINST OUR LIST.
EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF NO, YOU GOT SOME, SOME COPY.
SO THERE WERE, UM, YES, YES, PLEASE.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO MS. ALICE, TURN IT OVER TO OH, MAKE COPY.
SO HERE, WELL, ALICE, TO MAKE THE COPY UP, ESSENTIALLY WHAT HAPPENED, UM, THERE WAS THIS LIST RIGHT HERE WAS PROVIDED, AND THIS WAS THE LIST THAT YOU CAME UP WITH.
AND IT'S 25 PROPERTIES ON HERE THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS ALREADY DETERMINED THAT THEY, UM, NEED THESE PROPERTIES.
SO THERE WAS A, A LIST THAT, UM, MS. ALICE SAT DOWN WITH AND CAME UP WITH THIS LIST OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BOUNDARIES.
SO I DIDN'T WANT TO SEND THIS OUT BECAUSE YOU CAN COME AND LOOK AT IT OR IF YOU REQUEST A COPY, YOU COULD HAVE A COPY OF THIS AS WELL.
SO THE NEXT LIST THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE IS THE LIST OF ALL THOSE PROPERTIES SINCE WE WERE ASKING FOR THE PROPERTIES THAT WERE SURPLUS, THAT'S USED LOOSELY.
BUT IT'S SAYING THAT THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARIES ARE NOT FOR SALE BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING WITH THEM.
SO IF YOU COMPARE THAT LIST THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE WITH THE ONE THAT ALICE IS GONNA MAKE, THOSE HAVE BEEN ADMITTED.
YOU CAN'T SEE THOSE VERY WELL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE.
SO THO THAT LIST THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKAGE THAT'S MARKED OUT, UM, YOU WOULD, THEY MATCHED THE LIST THAT ALICE IS GOING TO MAKE THE LIST THAT WAS, UM, REVIEWED BECAUSE OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ALREADY, UM, SCHEDULED TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OR SOME TYPE OF, UM, WORK ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
I WASN'T SURE WHAT YOU WANTED ME TO DO.
SO I WAS ASKED TO PROVIDE A LIST OF ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT COUNTY OR REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OR MM-HMM.
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UNDERSTANDING, WHICH IS THIS LIST THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT TO SELL SO WE COULD REMOVE THEM OR HE COLORED 'EM RED SO YOU COULDN'T READ 'EM KIND OF THING.SO, AND I, THE ONES THAT YOU CAN READ, I GUESS YOU HAVE GOOD EYES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE.
THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING ANYWAY.
AND THEN ON TOP OF THAT, THERE WAS ALSO, ALICE MADE A MAP AND I COULD GET YOU A COPY OF THE MATH AS WELL WITH ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARIES BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA SAY REDEVELOPMENT OWNED BECAUSE SOME OF 'EM ARE REDEVELOPMENT OWNED, SOME ARE CITY, COUNTY, AND SOME ARE CITY.
SO THIS ONE ACTUALLY HAS A COLOR CODE THAT TELLS YOU ALL THAT.
I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT SIMPLER SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND.
AND THEN SOMEONE FROM THE OUTSIDE THIS QUESTIONING, CUZ I ALREADY HAVE THREE REQUESTS, I GET 'EM ALL THE TIME.
WHAT PROPERTIES DO YOU GUYS HAVE FOR SALE? SO I WAS TRYING TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, THAT INFORMATION AS EASY AS POSSIBLE.
I AM, UH, YES SIR, I'M A VISUAL LEARNER AND I HOPE HE'S A COMPUTER GENERATED.
I HOPE IT WON'T BE TOO MUCH WORTH LIKE, UH, POOR PERSONAL PRIVILEGE.
CAN I GET THE RED HIGHLIGHTED ON THE MAP ONLY SO I CAN SEE WHAT I'M LOOKING AT? CAN DO THAT? SHE'S GOOD.
SHE CAN, SHE, BECAUSE I HAVE THE MAP OF THE OTHER ONE SO I CAN JUST, THIS GENTLEMAN RIGHT HERE SAY, SO JUST MAKE A QUICK COPY.
WE GOTTA BE LIKE THAT MOVE BECAUSE OF THIS.
SO WE GOTTA KEEP, DID YOU SAY SOMETHING? YEAH.
COMMISSIONER COMMISSION PROCTOR.
NO, UM, MADAM ATTORNEY, SINCE WE ARE SO STRICT WITH WHAT WE CAN MEET ON AND DISCUSS, IF WE ARE PROVIDED WITH A LIST NOW THAT IS VARIES FROM THE LIST THAT WAS ATTACHED TO OUR AGENDA, CAN WE EVEN CONSIDER THAT LIST OR WILL WE, I MEAN IT'S, IT'S A TECHNICALITY BUT DON'T, THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, YOUR, YOUR NOTICE SAYS CONSIDER ADOPTING CTOS PROPERTY LIST.
YOU CAN DETERMINE IN DEC WHAT THAT LIST WILL BE.
I THINK THE LIST THAT WAS CIRCULATED, UM, AND THE VARIOUS LIST THAT HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED THIS EVENING FOR ALL RECOMMENDATIONS FOR YOU ALL.
AND YOU CAN DO WITH THOSE, THOSE ITEMS WHAT YOU THINK.
SO WHO, SO YOU ALL HAVE COMPARED CUZ I MEAN I'VE NEVER, I'VE NOT DONE ANY COMPARING, SO I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THIS.
I'VE NOT LOOKED AT A MAP, I'VE NOT DONE ANY PARCEL WORK.
SO SOMEONE HAS GONE THROUGH AND DETERMINED THAT THESE ARE ALL VACANT LOTS THAT WE WOULD WANT TO, SO EVERYTHING IN LIKE WHITE AND NOT EVERYTHING NOT IN RED, WE WOULD WANT TO SELL.
IS THAT THE RIGHT? AND THE REASON WHY I ADDED THAT EXTRA COLUMN IS BECAUSE THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT I'M GETTING FROM THE COMMUNITY.
SO IF I JUST GIVE THEM A LIST, THEY, THEY TURN AROUND AND SAY, IS IT A HOUSE ON THERE? IS IT VACANT? YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE SIGNS OF IT? SO I'M TRYING TO SHARE AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE.
AND YES, IT HAS BEEN COMPARED TO THE LIST THAT WAS PROVIDED OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO SELL.
AND THAT LEASE CAME FROM THE HOUSE OF WORKING RESPONSIBLE AND IF ANYBODY HAS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A DIFFERENT FORMAT, I WELCOME THAT RECOMMENDATION.
I HAVE DONE SEVERAL, UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT FORMATS AND SO IF YOU GUYS, UM, HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION FOR A BETTER FORMAT THAT WORKS FOR ME.
THIS IS THE LIST OF MARVIN PRODUCED.
AND THIS IS A WHOLE LOT EASIER TO TO READ.
RIGHT? SO SHOULD I DELETE THE RED ONES? I
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MEAN THAT'S THE, WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR HAND IS THE SAME LIST THAT'S COLOR CODED AND RED WHERE I MARKED OUT THE 25 THAT YOU HAVE LISTED.I WAS TRYING TO, YOU KNOW,
WHILE I APPRECIATE HAVING A COMPREHENSIVE LIST FOR OUR PURPOSES AND EVALUATION, IF THE GOAL IS TO PRODUCE A SURPLUS LIST, THEN IT WILL SEEM LOGICAL WILL BE THAT THE SURPLUS LIST IS A SURPLUS LIST OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE FOR SALE AND DOES NOT INCLUDE OTHERS IN ANY WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM.
THEN WE CAN POINT AND SAY, THESE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE FOR SALE AND MY LIST S THE PROPERTY.
SO IF YOU HAVE, IF YOU HAVE TO GO THAT COURSE ONE DEAD OR NOT AND EVERYBODY HAS THEM, THAT WILL SOLVE THE PROPERTY.
WE CAN, WE CAN, WE CAN DO THAT.
WE NEED TO VOTE ON, ON THAT DECISION OR HE DOES TRUMP BEFORE I VOTE.
NEVER HAVE TO DO JOB IF IT ACT, IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO ADOPT A LIST TONIGHT THAT REQUIRES A VOTE.
IF YOU ARE DIRECTING STAFF TO, UM, REVISE THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE YOU THEN THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE A VOTE.
REVISED, REVISE, REVISE, WAIT.
I DON'T, AND I REMEMBER, UM, UM, VICE CHAIR RESPONDING.
IT WAS EASIER TO READ, UM, BUT IT DIDN'T HAVE ANY EXTRA, IT JUST HAD AN ADDRESS.
SO I SAID, HERE ARE THE ADDRESSES FOR THE ONES THAT WE ARE NOT GONNA SELL AND HERE ARE THE ADDRESSES FOR THE ONES THAT WE ARE.
SO, UM, VICE CHAIR SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T NEED TO KNOW THE ONES THAT WE AREN'T GOING TO SELL.
SO TAKE THOSE OFF SO I COULD PRODUCE, SEND THAT ONE BACK OUT.
IT JUST DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER INFORMATION.
SO AS I, THAT COULD BE FOR US AS, YOU KNOW, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
I JUST FEEL THAT FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE REQUESTING THOSE ADDITIONAL, THAT ADDITIONAL INFORMATION WANT MORE MM-HMM.
LABEL AS TO WHAT IS WHAT AND THEN EVERYBODY CAN DIGEST WHAT, TAKE THE COVERS OFF OF 'EM SO THEY END UP WITH A LIST LIKE THIS.
WELL YOU WILL MR. ME CALLING 52.
UM, SORRY, I JUST, I THOUGHT I UNDERSTOOD THAT THIS WAS THE ONES THE HOUSING, UM, THAT YOU ALL SAID SHOULD BE READ ON HERE.
BUT LIKE I SEE 1006 SAMPSON STREET IS IN RED, BUT I DON'T SEE IT ON THIS.
AND THEN I SEE 2 0 3 AND 2 0 7 JONES STREET ON THIS AND I DON'T SEE THEM ON THIS.
SO LIKE THEY DON'T SEEM TO MATCH UP SO THAT I WOULDN'T BE INCLINED TO ADOPT THIS UNTIL WE KIND OF FIGURED THAT.
WHAT IS THAT ON THE MAC CONTROL X? IS THAT FUNCTION X ON THE MAC? I'M NOT, HE TRYING TO GET US SO WE CAN WORK IT OUT.
SO WE ARE NOT VOTING ON THAT TONIGHT.
WE ARE UH, GOING TO UM, CLEAN IT UP, UM, GONNA WORK THAT I GET THAT BACK TO US AND IT WILL BE ON THE MARCH AGENDA.
[9. Consider adopting a resolution approving the sale of property located at 837 Cedar Street.]
A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SALE OR PROPERTY LOCATED AT 8 37 CEDARS UM, STREET.IT GONNA BE 8 27, IT 8 27, TAKE 27 8 37.
IT'S 8 27, RIGHT? YEAH, IT WAS, ANYWAY, IT'S 8 27.
IT'S I'M MOTION WITHOUT RESOLUTION TO, UH, FOR PROBABLY BE SOLD AT 8 27 CEDAR STREET.
I'M GONNA NEED TO LOOK TO MADAM ATTORNEY TO MAKE SURE SHE IS OBSERVABLE.
YEAH, IT'S CORRECT ON RESOLUTION.
RIGHT? IT'S CORRECT ON RESOLUTION I, RESOLUTION 8 37.
IS THERE AN NUMBER AGENDA DEAL WITH, IS 8 37 PAV STREET? NO, NO, NO.
CAUSE IT'S PROBABLY JUST A DESER THERE.
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IS NOT.IT'S JUST A, IT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT 8 37 CEDAR STREET DOES NOT EXIST.
UM, I THINK THE GENTLEMAN BY THE NAME OF MR. ROBERTS, FOUR YOU IN JANUARY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION.
THERE'S MR. ROBERTS RIGHT THERE.
UM, AND PERHAPS, UM, THE AGENDA ITEM SHOULD BE PERTAINING TO 8 27 KATY AVENUE IF THAT IS THE CASE.
UM, PROCEDURALLY THAT WOULD BE TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS, NOT TO APPROVE ANY SALE AS I DON'T THINK A BID HAS BEEN PLACED AND THAT PROPERTY IS OWNED BY THE CITY AND COUNTY.
SO IT, IT MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE TO, UM, TO MOVE ON FROM AGENDA ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
DOES ANY THIS SITUATION WITH MR. HMM
VERSA SALE 8 27 CEDAR STREET IS ACTUALLY ON, UH, I THINK THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN'S AGENDA FOR THE 14TH.
FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO APPROVE THAT SALE.
SO THE CEDAR STREET PROPERTY, THERE'S NOTHING ELSE FOR YOU ALL TO DO AT THIS JUNCTURE.
THE PAVY AVENUE PROPERTY IS NOT PROPERLY BEFORE YOU PROCEED.
UH, WE DON'T NEED A, UM, WE DON'T, DO NOT NEED A, UM, A MOTION THAT'S, UM, AGENDA.
I WITHDRAWN A MOTION BECAUSE SHE SAID THAT'S NOT YES.
[10. Consider approval of the ARPA funds that originally allocated by the Board of Alderman from Ward 1, Ward 2, and Ward 5 to the McCotter House be reallocated to the Health and Wellness Center.]
OF A RPA FUNDS.THEY ORIGINALLY ADVOCATED, UH, PFIZER, GORDON AL, UH, TWO AND FIVE TO 9 0 8 BLOOMFIELD, UH, STREET KNOWN TO MANY MEDIATE THE MCCA HOUSE AND GO RELOCATED, UH, TO REALLOCATE IT TO THE HEALTH AND, UH, WELLNESS CENTER.
AND WHAT THAT, UH, IS, IS WHEN THE CITY, UM, GAVE US 350, UH, THOUSAND DOLLARS, IT WAS TO, UM, RENOVATE REPAIR, UH, THE HOUSE AT 9 0 8 MOON FAIR STREET.
AND SO WHAT IS UH, HAPPENED IS THAT WOULD'VE BEEN CLOSE TO $500,000 TO, UH, RENOVATE THAT.
AND SO IT WAS, UM, UH, DECIDED THAT THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UH, CENTER WOULD BE LOCATED THERE IN STEAD.
SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO, UM, TONIGHT.
THOSE FUNDS NEED TO BE, UH, REALLOCATED UNTIL IT REQUIRES A RESOLUTION.
DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH THAT? IS IS THIS, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, IS THIS MORE OF LIKE A TECHNICALITY? BECAUSE ALL THE PROCESS HAS BEEN IN PLACE AND VOTED ON, WE'VE ALL DECIDED WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH THE PROPERTY.
IT'S JUST TO, THE NAME OF THE MONEY GOES FROM THIS ALLOCATION.
SO IT'S REALLY A TECHNICALITY.
THIS ONE, WE'RE NOT CHANGING ANY DECISIONS WE'VE MADE.
COMMISSIONER, UH, UH, BRIAN, ANY QUESTIONS? NO QUESTIONS.
COMMISSION WALKER, VICE CHAIR.
QUESTIONS? I PUT A MOTION GET TO THANK YOU.
COMMISSION COMMISSIONER STRICKEN.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UH, APPROVE THE, A RPA FUNDS BEING DESIGNATED TO THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER, UH, AND BE REMOVED FROM THE, UH, THE ALLOCATION TO THE MCC HOUSE.
AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARITY, MR. GRA GARCIA, I THINK YOUR MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN SURE.
DO WE HAVE A SECOND
[11. Consider adopting a resolution to approve the execution of a contract with Ed Munford, Owner of The Third Property and Estate Investment Group to remodel the home located at 911 Eubanks Street.]
AGENDA ITEM IS CONSIDERING ADOPTING THE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE EXECUTION OF THE CONTRACT WITH, UH, ED MUN, OWNER OF THE THIRD PROPERTY AND IT STATE INVESTMENT GROUP TO REMODEL THE HOME LOCATED AT NINE 11 HUBES, UM, STREET, UH, WOULD[00:55:01]
YOU LIKE RIGHT.SHARE TO, UM, OUR, UH, MR. WALKER TALK ABOUT THAT PROCESS? WE TALKED ABOUT THE PROCESS, OTHER PROCESS.
I'M, I'M HAPPY TO, TO LEAVE THE COMMENTS ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM.
UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, IN JANUARY, UM, SOME, SEVERAL OF YOUR FELLOW COMMISSIONERS MADE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, WHICH HAS GENERATED SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, THIS COMMISSION CAN BE A LANDLORD, UM, LEASING PROPERTY ON A LONG TERM BASIS.
AND AFTER SOME STATUTORY RESEARCH AND CONSULTATION WITH THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT, UM, OUR OFFICE IS SATISFIED THAT THE COMMISSION, AS IT HAS BEEN ORGANIZED, DOES NOT HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO BE A LANDLORD ON A LONG TERM BASIS.
WHY AM I MAKING THAT DISTINCTION? UH, BECAUSE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT STATUTES, WHICH ARE ARTICLE 22 OF CHAPTER ONE 60 A, YOUR REDEVELOPMENT STATUTES, THERE IS A PROVISION THAT ALLOWS REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS TO LEASE IN CONJUNCTION WITH AN ONGOING, UH, REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT.
SO, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THE COMMISSION IS RENOVATING 1 23 MAPLE STREET AND SOMEONE IS GOING TO BE DISPLACED PURSUANT TO THAT RENOVATION PROJECT, YOU COULD THEN LEASE THAT, UH, THE OCCUPANT OF 1 23 MAPLE STREET, A STRUCTURE FOR SHORT TERM UNTIL THAT PROJECT IS COMPLETED.
HOWEVER, UM, ENTERING INTO LEASES AND HAVING, UH, HOUSING STOCK SPECIFICALLY FOR, FOR RENTAL ON AN INDEFINITE PERIOD IS NOT WHAT THE LEGISLATURE HAS ENDOWED YOU WITH THE ABILITY TO DO.
UM, THERE ARE OTHER REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS, OTHER TYPES OF, OF COMPOSITIONS FOR REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS WHERE THEY CAN, UM, BUT THOSE, THOSE, UM, POWERS HAVE NOT BEEN BESTOWED UPON THIS COMMISSION.
SO I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, UM, WITH MANY OF THE COMMISSIONERS.
THERE'S BEEN, UM, LOTS OF CONSULTATION TO SAY, OKAY, WHAT THEN NOW, UM, IF WE CAN'T RENT, WHAT CAN WE DO? AND THE COMMISSION CERTAINLY, UM, CAN SELL, AND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF OTHER POWERS THAT THE COMMISSION HASN'T AT, AT ITS DISPOSAL.
UH, MY OFFICE IS GOING TO BE SUBMITTING A, UH, A MEMO AND A CHART TO YOU AT AN UPCOMING MEETING, UM, THAT WAY THE BENEFIT FOR THE BENEFIT OF OUR NEW MEMBERS AND FOR A REFRESHER OF SOME OF OUR, UM, MORE SEASONED MEMBERS, WE CAN ALL SIT DOWN TOGETHER AND GO THROUGH, UM, EXACTLY WHAT THE STATUTE SAYS YOU HAVE THE POWER TO DO AND WHAT TOOLS YOU HAVE IN YOUR TOOL BELT.
UM, AND THEN PERHAPS WE CAN USE THAT CONVERSATION TO THEN, UM, REIMAGINE SOME OF THE DIRECTIONS THAT YOU'RE HEADED IN TO ACCOMPLISH THE GOALS, OBJECTIVES THAT HAVE SET OUT IN YOUR PLAN.
UM, SO THAT INFORMATION IS FORTHCOMING.
UM, AS ALWAYS, FEEL FREE TO REACH OUT TO ME IF YOU WANT TO HAVE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE THE MARCH MEETING.
BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT AS YOU DELIBERATE ON THIS PARTICULAR AGENDA ITEM THAT YOU KNOW, THAT THIS STRUCTURE OR ANY STRUCTURES THAT YOU OWN IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA CANNOT BE, UM, LEASED ON A LONG TERM BASIS.
ANY QUESTIONS? SO, BOTTOM LINE IS THAT ANY PROPERTIES THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNS, UM, WOULD HAVE TO BE SOLD, CANNOT BE RENTAL PROPERTY.
SO YOU CAN EXCHANGE THEM, YOU CAN SELL THEM USING THE UPS AND BID PROCESS.
YOU CAN SELL THEM FOR A DOLLAR, UM, TO A, AN ENTITY WITH A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
THERE ARE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT VARIETIES AND PATHWAYS THAT YOU CAN UTILIZE.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY LONG TERM RENTING IS NOT ONE OF THOSE, THOSE OPTIONS QUESTION.
SO I JUST HAVE SOME INFORMATION I, I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE AS WE GO INTO DISCUSSION.
SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH RENOVATING THE HOUSE, WE HAVE A PURCHASE ORDER AND WE WOULD HAVE TO ENTER A CONTRACT, WE WOULD BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THAT REHAB PROJECT.
WE, FOR THE EUBANKS PROPERTY, WE, WE ARE EITHER GOING TO RENOVATE IT, REHAB, OR WE ARE GOING TO SELL IT.
THE FUNDS THAT WE ARE USING TO RENOVATE THE PROPERTY IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT FUNDS.
SO IF WE SELL THE HOUSE TO SOMEONE WHO IS NOT LOW TO MODERATE INCOME, WE HAVE TO PAY BACK THAT $45,550.
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AND 50 CENTS IS WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY PUT INTO THE HOUSE.IF WE DECIDE THAT WE ARE NOT GOING TO RENOVATE, AND WE ARE NOT SURE OF THE SALE PRICE OF HOW THAT IS, AS LONG AS WE, WE CAN SIT ON IT FOR A LITTLE WHILE.
BUT ONCE IT'S SOLD, IF IT'S NOT SOLD AGAIN TO A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME FAMILY, THOSE FUNDS HAVE TO BE PAID BACK.
CAN I TALK TO THE CITY MANAGER, UH, RE RE REGARDING THAT AND THIS, UM, PETER, UM, OR, UH, FURTHER DISCUSSIONS, UM, GOING ON ABOUT, ABOUT THAT.
SO WE JUST NEED TO END THE WHOLE POINT IS WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION TONIGHT.
IT'S BEEN ON OUR AGENDA FOR A LONG TIME.
THE HOUSING WORKING GROUP HAVE TALKED ABOUT, IT SEEMS LIKE FOR THREE YEARS, BUT IT HASN'T BEEN THREE YEARS, BUT IT SEEMS, I'M JUST BEING HONEST, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A LOT OF THINGS.
AND THEN IN LIGHT OF WHAT OUR ATTORNEY JUST TOLD US ABOUT THE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT'S GOING ON AND, UH, STUFF, UM, YOU KNOW, UH, REGARDING THE DRILL, UH, PROPERTY, THINGS THAT THE COMMISSION CAN AND, AND CAN'T DO.
LIKE I SAID, I HAD A LONG, UH, CONVERSATION WITH THE CITY MANAGER, UM, TODAY.
SO, UH, WE ARE AT THE POINT THAT, UM, WE ARE, WE ARE AT, EVEN IF, YOU KNOW, THAT MEANS PAYING BACK MONEY.
BUT, UM, I WILL, UH, OPEN IT TO, UH, THE VICE CHAIR AND COMMISSIONER BK, WHO HAVE WORKED ON THIS OUR PROJECT AND GIVE YOU THE THOUGHTS ON, UH, THE RECOMMENDATION FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT, UM, PERMISSION WORK GROUP.
UM, I'LL, I'LL DO SOME PRELIMINARY FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR OUR NEW MEMBERS WHO BETH DONE THE FAULT OF THE WORK.
UM, WE WERE ASKED BY THE CITY TO TAKE THIS HOUSE, WHICH IS IN A SITE THAT IS GOING TO ULTIMATELY BE THE, UH, STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER.
WE, WE EVALUATED IT BRICK HOUSE AND, UH, HAD GOOD BONES.
AND SO WE ENTERED INTO A CONTRACT TO HAVE THE HOUSE MOVED OVER TO A, AN EXISTING PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WAS OWNED BY THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT'S OUT OF THE FLOOD PLAIN.
AND WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING IT MOVED AND, UH, EVALUATING THE HOUSE.
BETH DID, UH, A SET OF SPECIFICATIONS FOR THE REHAB PROJECT AND IT WAS ALL PREDICATED ON US RENTING THE HOUSE, UH, THROUGH SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS.
AND THAT WAS A PLAN THAT WAS GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS AND EVERYBODY KNEW IT.
AND, UM, THAT'S WHERE WE WERE HEADING WITH, WITH THAT, THAT PROJECT.
AND THEN WE HAVE, UH, RUN INTO THIS LITTLE STUMBLING BLOCK ABOUT NOT BEING ABLE TO RENT THIS PARTICULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UH, AND THAT HAS CAUSED SOME CONSTERNATION AND SOME THINKING.
AND, UH, WE HAVE SOME, SOME OTHER ISSUES.
UH, WITH MR. MUNFORD, AS YOU RECALL, WE BID THE REHAB PROJECT THREE DIFFERENT TIMES FOLLOWING BLOCK GRANT PROCESSES AND GOT NO BIDDERS.
SO WE HAD TO GO FIND A CONTRACTOR WHO'S CERTIFIED TO DO FLOCK GRANT WORK AND, UH, NEGOTIATE A DEAL WITH HIM TO DO IT.
AND THE CONTRACT, UH, REHAB CONTRACT CAME IN AT $186,000, UH, THROUGH BETH'S NEGOTIATING EFFORT WITH HIM.
AND THE CBG MONEY WAS, UH, LIKE $177,000.
SO WE WERE GONNA HAVE TO KICK IN ANOTHER EIGHT TO MAKE THIS ALL COME TO, TO FRUITION AND, AND HAVE A NICE THREE BEDROOM HOUSE FOR, UH, A TIMELY TO RENT.
THE, THE BACKGROUND IS, IF YOU READ THE, THE DEMOGRAPHICS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION PLAN IS THAT THE BIGGEST PROBLEM IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA IS RENTAL HOUSING.
80% OF THE POPULATION IN DUFFY FIELD IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA ARE RENTERS.
AND THAT, AND, AND MOST OF THEM IN, IN A LARGE PORTION OF THE RENTAL PROPERTY HAS LED TO THAT AREA BEING CALLED BLIGHTED BECAUSE THE CONDITION OF THE RENTAL HAPPENS.
AND SO WE HAVE ALWAYS HAD A FOCUS, AND FROM THE RARE ORIGINAL, UH, CONCEPT AND WORK WE DID WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND DID A, A 20 YEAR PROFORMA OF HOW THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BECAME SUSTAINABLE WITHOUT A CONTINUOUS INFUSION OF MONEY FROM THE CITY OR
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SOMEWHERE ELSE.AND THAT WAS ALL BASED ON RENTAL PROPERTY.
SO WE HAD A LOT OF, A LOT OF PLANS IN PLACE TO BE IN, IN TO IMPROVE THE RENTAL INFRASTRUCTURE WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
UH, AND WE HAD BEEN WORKING TOWARDS THAT.
AND THEN WE FIND, FIND OUT THAT, UH, JAMIE HAS STATED THAT WE CANNOT RENT THE PROPERTY, RIGHT.
SO IT IS, UH, WE, WE KIND OF HAD TO SIT DOWN AND SCRATCH OUR HEAD AND FIGURE OUT, OKAY, WHERE ARE WE? WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? AND THIS IS WHAT WE, WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING BECAUSE OUR FOCUS HAS ALWAYS BEEN KIND OF DOWN THIS, THIS PATH.
AND NOW WE'VE BEEN TOLD WE NEED TO TAKE THE, TAKE A LEFT TURN AND, UH, RETHINK THIS WHOLE PROCESS.
BUT BETH CAN ALSO, BETH, TO GO AHEAD AND WEIGH IN ON THE MR. MUMFORD.
UM, WELL, YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF GIVING THE HISTORY FOR IT.
AND I THINK WHAT AS THE, UM, HOUSING WORK GROUP, WE, WE REALIZE IS THAT WE CAN'T USE IT AS RENTAL PROPERTY.
SO PROBABLY THE BEST WAY FORWARD IS TO SELL THE PROPERTY.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, BUT I, I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE VERY, UM, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD, WE'VE WORKED A LOT, I'VE WORKED A LOT WITH MR. MUMFORD.
HE'S GIVEN US HIS BEST EFFORT AND CAUSE OF THAT AND CAUSE THE TIMEFRAME THAT'S TAKEN SO LONG FOR THIS TO GET IN FRONT OF THIS BOARD.
HE, HIS BOND FOR HIS, UH, HIS PAYMENT BOND THAT HE HAD TO HAVE, HIS PART OF HIS BID IS COME DUE FOR HIM.
SO I WOULD LIKE TO PUT OUT THERE THAT WE SHOULD, UM, IF WE ARE NOT GOING TO HIRE HIM TO RENOVATE THIS HOUSE, THEN WE SHOULD AT LEAST PAY HIS, HIS PAYMENT BOND, BECAUSE THAT'S MONEY HE WILL LOSE.
UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I COVERED EVERYTHING YOU WANTED ME TO.
WELL, UH, WE'RE GONNA COME BACK TO THE, TO THE QUESTION I HAD.
CAUSE THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE NEED TO BE DISCUSSING.
CAUSE UH, AS LONG AS HE'S IN THE REALM OF DISCUSSING, UH, THE, UM, UH, CUT THE EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT, WE CAN GO WITH THEM.
BUT WE NEED TO STAY WITHIN, WITHIN THAT.
BUT I'M GOING TO ASK THE COMMISSION IF THEY HAVE ANY OTHER, THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD, UM, WHY WE, WE ARE AT THE POINT THAT WE ARE, WE'RE AT.
SO, SO WHAT'S THE PAYMENT OF THE BOND? HOW MUCH IS, HOW MUCH WILL WE OWE TO PAY THIS? IT JUST OVER $6,000.
IT WAS PART OF HIS BID, OBVIOUSLY.
BUT IF HE, AND IT WAS GOOD FOR 60 DAYS AND THIS HAS GONE ON FOR, THAT WAS IN OCTOBER.
SO WE SHOULD HAVE TOLD HIM THEN WE WERE NOT GONNA DO IT, I THINK WOULD BE FAIR IF WE'RE NOT GONNA DO IT.
BUT IF WE HAVE IT, THAT'LL BE ENCUMBERED IN THE YES.
BIG CHECK THAT'S WRITTEN FOR THE ROOM.
IT'S PART OF HIS WHAT'S THE ESTIMATED VALUE OF THE HOME ONCE WITH THE REHABILITATION COMPLETE? WHAT'S, WHAT WHAT DO YOU PROJECT? I'M JUST GUESSTIMATE, KILL ALL YOUR EXPERTISE.
I I WOULD GET
BUT I, I WOULD GUESS IT WOULD PROBABLY BE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS MAYBE.
SO THAT'S A LOSS OF 86,000 FOR US.
AT THE, AT THE VERY, VERY, YES.
BUT, BUT IS IT REALLY BECAUSE THE GRANT, I MEAN, I KNOW WE COULD, I GUESS WE COULD USE THE GRANT FOR SOMETHING ELSE, BUT IS IT, IS IT A LOSS BECAUSE OF THE GRANT? NO.
UH, WELL THE CITY, IF WE VOTE, UH, TO SELL THE, UH, PROPERTY, THE CITY CAN, THE CITY CAN REALLOCATE THE, THE GRANT FUNDS SOMEWHERE ELSE, UH, IS WHAT I, WHAT I WAS, UH, TOLD.
SO IT HAS REALLY NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
IT'S, UH, IT'S MORE OF, UM, THE OPINION.
UH, IT IS THAT, THAT'S TOO MUCH TO PUT INTO A PROPERTY IN THE AREA, IN THAT AREA.
AND MADAM CHAIR, I'D JUST LIKE TO ADD JUST A FEW MORE COMMENTS TO PERHAPS, UM, YES, THANK YOU.
UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT WAS ADOPTED, IT WAS APPROVED BY THIS COMMISSION AND ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
UM, I THINK IT'S GOAL NUMBER TWO SETS OUT WHAT THE HOUSING OBJECTIVES WERE.
UM, AND I'M LOOKING HERE AT, UM, OBJECTIVE 2.4 IN YOUR PLAN.
AND THERE'S SOME POLICY LANGUAGE UNDERNEATH WHERE THE COMMISSION SAYS AND WANTS TO PARTNER WITH LOCAL PUBLIC HOUSING AGENCIES AND OTHERS TO CREATE RENTAL AND OWNERSHIP PROGRAMS. UM, I CAN THINK OF A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS THAT YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH THAT WITH THIS HOUSE.
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ONE WOULD BE TO, UM, SELL THE PROPERTY BID PROCESS HAS BID GS IT, ANOTHER OP ANOTHER TOOL THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR TOOL BELT IS IF YOU WANTED TO SELL THIS PROPERTY EITHER AS IS OR AFTER THE RENOVATION TO A, UM, ENTITY THAT HAS A PUBLIC PURPOSE RELATED TO HOUSING.YOU, YOU COULD CERTAINLY DO THAT.
AND THAT ENTITY MAY BE ABLE TO RENT THE PROPERTY TO A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PLAN.
SO TONIGHT, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO HAVE THAT IN THE BACK OF YOUR MIND AS YOU THINK ABOUT IT.
BECAUSE YOU CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE WANNA SELL IT NOW AND PUT IT ON THE SURPLUS PROPERTY LIST.
WOULD HABITAT BE ONE OF THOSE AGENCIES THAT WE COULD SEEK HELP WITH IN REMODELING THE HOUSE AND LET THEM SELL THE HOUSE? BE STAFF QUESTION.
I MEAN, BUT THAT'S THE POSSIBILITY.
WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU READ THE AGENCIES THAT WE COULD SEEK TO HELP US, THERE MAY BE ANY NUMBER OF ENTITIES, YOU KNOW, IN NEWBURN, CRA, COUNTY, EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA, THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO LEASE THE PROPERTY, UM, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DESIRES THAT YOU HAD PREVIOUSLY.
AND THE REASON I ASK YOU, CUZ YOU KNOW, HABITAT IS THE ONE THAT'S WANTS TO PUT HOMES AVAILABLE FOR THOSE THAT CAN AFFORD THE, THE, THE, YOU KNOW, THE MOST EXPENSIVE HOUSES.
SO I'M SAYING OUR, OUR IDEA WITH THE MONEY, YOU'RE SAYING USE THE MONEY SO IT CAN BE AFFORDABLE.
FOR, FOR PEOPLE THAT MEET THAT CRITERIA MM-HMM.
SO, AND HABITAT DOES THAT, THAT'S SOMETHING SAYING, WOULD HABITAT BE THE ONE BE BE AN AGENCY THAT WE MIGHT LOOK AT? THAT'S WHY.
AND I'M IGNORANT TO A LOT OF WHAT HABITAT DOES, UM, BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HABITAT IS PRIMARILY TOWARDS HOME OWNERSHIP.
THEY MAY HAVE A RENTAL PROPERTY, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION OR A RENTAL PROGRAM.
UM, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING TO INVESTIGATE.
BUT AT THIS JUNCTURE, I THINK THE DECISION IS DO YOU FINISH THE PROJECT MM-HMM.
SO ON THE, UH, AGENDA FOR, FOR US, UM, AGAIN, AND WE CAN, WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, DISCUSS THAT AUTUMN UPON HIM.
WE CAN'T MAKE THAT DECISION TONIGHT.
THE DECISION BEFORE US TONIGHT IS WHETHER OR NOT WE GOING TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT TO REHABILITATE THIS PROPERTY.
CAN I, I JUST WANT TO EXPLORE THE WHOLE LOSS CONCEPT AGAIN BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE WE'RE, WE'RE THINKING OF IT IN TERMS OF IF WE SELL OUR HOUSE AND WE LOSE 86 GRAND, WE'RE SUPER UPSET ABOUT IT.
BUT OUR MISSION IS TO REDEVELOP AN AREA THAT IS NOT GONNA BRING YOU'RE, IT'S INEVITABLE THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT MORE MONEY IN, THEN YOU'RE GONNA GET OUT.
SO I YOU SAID A LOSS IS NOT GONNA LOOK GOOD.
WELL IT'S NOT GONNA LOOK GOOD, BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE LOSSES PROBABLY ON EVERY PROPERTY FOR A LONG TIME UNTIL THE AREA GETS NICER.
SO THAT'S NOT THE WAY YOU, I SAY, I SAY SIGN THE CONTRACT AND FIX THE HOUSE.
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE TIME TABLE? WASN'T WE UP AGAINST THEM? DEAD DEADLINE OR SOMETHING THAT WE HAD TO SPEND CERTAIN MONEY OR WE HAD TO SEND IT BACK? WHAT TO THAT NOBODY'S ABOUT, THAT'S ONE OF MANY PIECES OF INFORMATION THAT'S CHANGED AS WE'VE GONE THROUGH.
REALLY THAT'S WHY WE PUSHED THIS FORWARD SO HARD.
CAUSE IT HAD AN EXPIRATION DATE.
THAT'S WHY WE PUSHED SO MANY THINGS.
WE TALKED ABOUT THIS LAST MEETING, DIDN'T WE? YES.
HE AND ROBBS SAID THE SAME THING YOU JUST SAID.
THEY AIN'T GOT TABLED LAST MEETING, MEETING BEFORE THAT.
WELL, UM, LIKE I SAID, IN THE MEANTIME, THE MANAGER HAS TALKED WITH D CONSULTS AND THE CBG UH, COORDINATOR, UM, UH, HERE.
AND THERE'S, LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, THEY CAN, THEY CAN DO THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED TO DO, ASKING FOR EXTENSIONS AND DIFFERENT THINGS LIKE, UH, LIKE THAT.
BUT REGARDLESS, IT'S STILL BEEN ON OUR AGENDA A WHILE.
AND SO, UM, WE NEED TO ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU CAN ASK HERE.
WE NEED TO PUT THIS TO A VOTE.
UH, THERE IS THE OPTION TO TABLE IT AGAIN, BUT I WOULD NOT SUGGEST THAT WE DO THAT.
I MEAN, ENOUGH IS, UH, ENOUGH.
WE JUST, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO, WE NEED TO MAKE A, MAKE
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A DECISION.PEOPLE LIVES DEPENDING, DEPENDING ON IT.
IT WAS, IT WAS BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION IN A, A MEETING.
IT'S BACKED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS SET UP TO BE A COST CENTER, NOT A PROFIT CENTER.
AND THAT WE WILL, EVERYTHING THAT WE EVER DO WILL BE A LAW COULD PROBABLY BE DONE AT A LOSS.
AND, AND, BUT THEN, THEN YOU SAY, WHERE DO WE GET MONEY TO CONTINUE TO DO THINGS? AND THE ANSWER THERE IS THAT NORMALLY IT COMES FROM THE MUNICIPALITY, BUT, BUT WE ARE, WE ARE, WE ARE CREATORS OF THINGS TO LOSE MONEY BASICALLY, BUT TO IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE AND THE ENVIRONMENT PEOPLE LIVE IN.
WAIT UNTIL MY WELLNESS REPORT PLAY.
I JUST WANT YOU TO REMEMBER
IS IT POSSIBLE I COULD ASK A QUESTION? ONLY IF THE COMMISSION WANTS TO VOTE TO ENTERTAIN PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS.
MR. HOLLOW, AS MUCH AS I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENT, WE'VE SET A BIT OF A PRESSING UP BY ALREADY INITIALLY BY NOT ALLOW MR. FRONT.
SO AGAIN, ANY, UH, ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS WE HAD AND WE HAD COMMENTS FROM MR. MUNFORD, HIM HIMSELF WHEN HE CAME AND HE SAID THE SAME, HE SAID THE SAME THING.
CAUSE SOMEBODY ELSE SAID, UH, THAT WE WERE PUTTING INTO, UM, YOU KNOW, TOO MUCH MONEY IN AND THIS, THAT AND THE OTHER.
AND HE SAID, SAME BIG I IDEA THAT YOU, DO YOU NOT SEE ANY OTHER PEOPLE, UH, SAID OR YOU SAYING IT'S NOT WORTH IT? OR ARE YOU SAYING, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING? AND, AND HE, YOU KNOW, HE TALKED ABOUT HOW, UH, HE GREW UP IN THE NEW DEVELOPMENT BOUNDARIES AND IT CERTAINLY IS, YOU KNOW, WORTH HIM PUTTING THE HOUSES OVER THERE TO, YOU KNOW, TO REHABILITATE AND, AND DIFFERENT THINGS AND WHAT IT WOULD DO.
UM, AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHAT HE SAID, YOU KNOW, THE NIGHT AND HE WAS HERE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, UM, WE'VE GONE, UH, THROUGH IT, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS AND UNLESS THERE ANY QUESTIONS WE NEEDED, WE NEED TO VOTE ONE, ONE WAY OTHER OR WE NEED TO TAKE, YOU DON'T HAVE WHAT? YES, HONOR.
SO MR. POR, YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT IS GOING TO TAKE $186,000 TO REHAB THAT HOUSE TO RENOVATE.
WHAT WAS HIS CONTRACT ATTACH? THAT IS HIS WHAT? I, I THINK IT IS 186.
THE REASON OR WHERE HOW WE GOT THERE IS WE HAD TO, UM, BID IT OUT FOLLOWING ALL THE CBG GUIDELINES, WHICH IS A VERY LARGE PACKET, LIKE 27 PAGES THAT THE CONTRACTOR HAS TO FILL OUT TO BE ABLE TO PUT IN A BID.
UM, WE'VE STARTED BIDDING THE, THE HOUSE, THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS ADVERTISED IT, PAID FOR IT IN JULY, BID IT THREE TIMES AND NO ONE CAME.
SO I, UM, MR. MUNFORD HAD COME TO OUR OFFICE TO SEEK OUR ARCHITECTURAL SERVICES FOR SOME PROJECTS HE'S DOING IN THE AREA.
AND I SAID, IF YOU'RE ALREADY WORKING IN THE AREA, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN BIDDING ON THIS PROJECT? AND HE DID.
AND THEN WHEN HIS BID WAS TOO HIGH, WE WENT BACK AND NEGOTIATED DOWN.
BUT AT THE TIME HE COULDN'T GO INTO THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT WAS STILL, UM, LIFTED.
YOU KNOW, IT WAS STILL HANGING.
HADN'T BEEN SETTLED THE FOUNDATION YET.
SO WE, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY HE BID IT LIKE BUILDING A BRAND NEW HOUSE BECAUSE REALLY HE'S GONNA HAVE TO TAKE OUT ALL THE INTERIOR WALLS TO PUT NEW INSULATION IN.
UH, MOST OF THE WINDOWS MADE IT THROUGH THE MOVE.
HE'S GOTTA PUT A NEW ROOF ON IT.
NEW FLOORING, NEW INTERIOR, ALL NEW PLUMBING, NEW CASEWORK.
UM, REALLY THE THINGS HE'S NOT PUTTING ON THE EXTERIOR WALLS.
SO THE BOTTOM BLIND HERE IS SOMEONE, I'LL JUST SAY, UM, MYSELF, I COULD BUY THAT PROPERTY JUST HYPOTHETICALLY.
AND BECAUSE I'M USING MY OWN PERSONAL FUNDS, I COULD REMODEL THAT HOUSE FOR LESS THAN $186,000.
BUT CAUSE OF THE CDG PROGRAM AND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS, THAT'S WHY THIS $186,000 COME IN HERE.
I THINK IT HAD A LOT TO DO WITH IT.
CAUSE YOU KNOW, THIS CONTRACTOR, UM, PROBABLY NOT FAMILIAR WITH ALL OF IT WAS INVOLVED.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE SOME EXTRA MONEY PUT IN THERE TO, YOU KNOW, PROTECT HIMSELF.
AND I, I SEE IT ALL THE TIME, YOU KNOW, IN THE INDUSTRY.
UM, AND USUALLY THERE'S A LOT OF COMPETITION AND THE LOWEST BID GETS THE JOB.
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AND SO ANYTIME YOU HAVE ONE CONTRACTOR BIDDING, THAT CONTRACTOR'S PROBABLY MAKING MORE MONEY THAN THE USUAL CONTRACTOR.CAUSE NOBODY ELSE DID THE PROJECT.
BUT WE ARE BOUND TO, IF WE USE THE CDBG FUNDS TO USE IT PUBLICLY AND AND BE TRANSPARENT.
AND WE HAVE BEEN, NOT TO MENTION TOO IS, IS THE COST OF MATERIALS ARE MUCH MORE THAN THEY WERE BEFORE THE PANDEMIC.
THAT HAS A LOT TO DO WITH IT TOO.
THEY PROB THEY PROBABLY TWO OR THREE TIMES MORE.
SO WOULDN'T IT BE JUST EASIER FOR PUT A SALE SIGN ON THE PROPERTY MM-HMM.
THERE MAY BE SOMEONE, SOME CITIZEN IN THE COMMUNITY THAT MAY WANT THAT PROPERTY.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S AN OPTION.
AND IF WE DO THAT, WE TAKE OUR LITTLE BIT OF LOSS WITH YEAH.
WE'RE OBVIOUSLY NOT WORRIED ABOUT THAT.
BUT IT ALSO FREES UP THAT AMOUNT OF CBG MONEY TO BE USED ELSEWHERE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA TO REHAB HOUSES OR DO WHATEVER.
I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING AWAY SOMEWHERE ELSE, IF IT OKAY.
WE WERE TOLD A LOT OF STUFF AND WHOLE THIS 1300 SQUARE, NO COMMENT.
UM, UM, I'M, I'M KINDA LEADING.
MY MOTION IS, HEY, FOR SALE, SIGN UP, TAKE OUR LAWS, LEARN FROM THIS PROCESS THAT WE'VE GONE THROUGH AND LET'S MOVE ON BEFORE, EXCUSE ME, CAN I INTERJECT? FINISH I'M THROUGH.
LET ME, LEMME ALSO SAY THAT, THAT THAT WAS ON THE HOUSING WORK GROUP'S LEFT MEETING AGENDA.
AND THAT'S THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE ALSO HAVE.
AND, AND FREE UP THAT MONEY TO BE USED.
WELL, WHY DIDN'T YOU TELL US THAT FROM THE START? WE WOULD'VE BEEN DAMN THROUGH IT.
YOU GOTTA HAVE, YOU GOTTA HAVE DISCUSSION.
SO, MAD CHAIR, IF, IF I MAY AGAIN, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THIS IS A SPECIAL MEETING SO WE CAN TRAINED TO WHAT THE NOTICE IS.
AND THE NOTICE SAYS CONSIDERATION OF DOC APPROVAL OF THE RPA FUNDS.
RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT WITH AND MONTHLY.
SO IF THE COMMISSION IS INCLINED TO SELL THIS PROPERTY, THEN PERHAPS THE MOTION WOULD BE, UM, TO ADD NINE 11 UBANK STREET TO THE SURPLUS PROPERTY LIST EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T DIDN'T WE PUNT ON LISTEN UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING YOU DID.
HOWEVER, THE PERSON WHO MADE THAT MOTION CAN, CAN RECONSIDER AND THE SURPLUS PROPERTY LIST AT THIS JUNCTURE COULD CONSIST OF ONE PROPERTY.
OKAY, WELL WHY CAN'T YOU JUST, COULD WE JUST SAY THE RESOLUTION IS TO NOT APPROVE? THERE YOU GO.
THE EXECUTION OF A CONTRACT, YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT THAT DOESN'T GET US ANY CLOSER TO SOON.
YOU'D HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL MARCH TO MOVE FORWARD WITH ANY TYPE OF STUFF.
DOES THAT, IS IT APPROPRIATE TO ASK, HAS OTHER PEOPLE ASK ABOUT BUYING THE PROPERTY? HAVE HAVE YOU HAD INTEREST IN IT? PATRICIA? OKAY.
THERE'S A GENTLEMAN RIGHT BACK.
NO, NOT TAKING CAN'T TAKE, I KNOW I DIDN'T SAY THAT HE COULD SPEAK, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE WAS A GENTLEMAN RIGHT BACK.
I SAW, I KNOW WHAT HE'S SAYING.
WE, UM, COMMISSION NEED TO NEED, WANNA MAKE SURE WE HAVE FULL DISCUSSION.
WE GOT HERE BECAUSE WE WERE RUSHING HERE TODAY.
WE'RE RUSHING AGAIN AND EVERYTHING IS NOT CLEAR.
I'M GONNA BE CONFUSED AS MOTHER RATHER THIS OR THAT.
WHAT GOES BACK, WHAT DAY IS WHAT? I MEAN, THERE'S SO MUCH THAT'S BEEN THROWN IN THERE.
SO WHY ARE WE RUSHING? WHY CAN'T WE PUT IT UP TO SALE TOMORROW SO WE CAN GET OUR ACT TOGETHER? I KNOW I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE AT THE TABLE QUESTIONS.
SO WHY DON'T WE RUSHING? I MEAN, WE RUSHED TO GET HERE.
THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
WHY DON'T WE JUST, UNTIL WE CAN HAVE AN IN-DEPTH DISCUSSION WHERE WE GET ON THE SAME PAGE AND THEN GO FOR SALE IN MARCH.
I GUESS WE GOTTA PAY THE MAN AGS.
THERE'S A QUESTION ABOUT PAYING HIM.
WITHOUT PERFORMING THE CONTRACT.
I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T BE DONE, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO REFLECT UPON, OKAY? MM-HMM.
THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD IS JUST FOR THE RECORD, CAUSE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHAT THE, THE LOSS WOULD BE ON THINGS IS THERE'S ALREADY $40,000 IN THE EQUATION.
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SO WE WOULD IN EFFECT LINED UP WITH A $226,000 INVESTMENT THAT PER OUR BEST HOUSING DORU AT THE TABLE THROUGHOUT A GUESSTIMATE OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS WORTH OF VALUE.SO IT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY MORE THAN JUST THE 180 6 MM-HMM.
AND SELL THE PROPERTY TO, TO, UH, COMMISSIONER WALLACE'S POINT IS THE INCLINATION OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO NOT SELL THE PROPERTY.
THEN YOU CAN MAKE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT TONIGHT.
YOU CAN UNPACK WHAT THE SALE LOOKS LIKE IN MARCH.
YOU CAN BIFURCATE THAT PROCESS IF YOU'D LIKE.
UM, I, I THINK THERE MIGHT BE SOME QUESTION ABOUT KNOWING WHICH WAY THE CDBG FUNDING ALLOCATION NEEDS TO GO WITH THIS, THIS JUNCTURE.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO USE THE ALLOCATION FOR THIS HOUSE, YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO SO.
IF YOU KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO, THEN YOU CAN, YOU CAN MAKE THAT DECLARATION TONIGHT.
AS I SAID, I, I SPOKE WITH THE CITY MANAGER.
IT CAN BE READ ALLOCATED AND IT CANNOT, IT DOESN'T SAY THAT WE CAN'T USE, THEY WON'T GIVE US CDBG FUNDS IN THE FUTURE.
BUT WE WANNA MAKE SURE TOO, THAT WE PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF CDBG.
CAUSE THOUGH OUR CITY'S ENTITLED CITY AND IT DOESN'T GET MEETINGS LOST, LIKE, UH, ANOTHER CITY, IT DOES GET ENOUGH FUNDING TO HELP WITH YOU PERSONS.
YOU KNOW, SO SELLING IT AS MAKE SURE THAT YOU DO NOT PUT THAT IN JEOPARDY.
SO SELLING IT AS IS IS WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH NO REFURBISHED NO.
LET ME GET ALL THE LITTLE BACK.
WHAT YOU NEED TO, NEED TO ADD.
SO ANOTHER ONE, UH, JUST FOR MADAM ATTORNEY, IF WE CHOOSE NOT TO BOARD, DO YOU NEED A MOTION TO DECLINE EXECUTING A CONTRACT? YES, SIR.
YOU HEARD THE MOTION, YOU HEARD THE, UH, SECOND QUESTION.
WE, THE MOTION AGAIN, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR.
WE, WE, WE DECLINED THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH MR ON THIS, HAVING THIS PROPERTY.
SO WE NO, WE, WE WILL NOT EXECUTE A CONTRACT.
SO MR. WE'RE NOT USING THE CVG.
WE WILL NOT EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH MR. MON ON THIS PROPERTY, WILL NOT LOSE THE CBG FUNDS.
AND FOR DISCUSSION PURPOSES, I'D BE REMISS NOT TO POINT OUT THAT WE DO NOT YET HAVE ANY LISTS OF PROPERTY THAT IS DEEMED NOT AVAILABLE.
SO I WILL LOOK INTO THE CAMERA AND SAY ANY PUBLIC THAT'S INTERESTED IN MAKING A BID ON THIS PROPERTY, WE HAVE A PROCESS DOCUMENTED TO FOLLOW.
SO PLEASE REACH OUT TO CITY HALL WITH YOUR OFFER WITH THE ACKNOWLEDGEMENT THAT WE DO HAVE $40,000 INVESTED IN THIS PROPERTY.
OH, STEVE, OH, THAT WAS AWESOME.
ONE OF THE BEST EVER HAD QUESTION.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS? QUESTION, DISCUSSION.
SO I'M GONNA READ AND MAKE SURE I DON'T MISS ANYTHING.
IF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DECIDES TO SELL THE PROPERTY AND NOT PROCEED WITH THE RENOVATIONS AT THIS TIME, THEY WILL NEED TO GIVE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR A LETTER TO THE CITY MANAGER EXPLAINING THEIR DESIRE TO TERMINATE THE SUB-RECIPIENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS PROJECT.
THIS WILL NOT PER PRECLUDE THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FROM REQUESTING ADDITIONAL CDG FUNDING IN THE FUTURE.
SO LET ME JUST GIVE YOU A LITTLE BIT.
SO WE RECEIVED FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED FOR IN 2020, RIGHT? WE RECEIVED FUNDS THAT WERE ALLOCATED IN 2021.
WE DID NOT GET AN ALLOCATION OF FUNDING FOR CDBG IN 2022 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SPEND IN 2020 AND THE 2021.
SO I JUST WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT ON THE FEBRUARY THE 20TH AT SIX O'CLOCK, THERE IS GOING TO BE AN OPEN FORUM OF PUBLIC HEARING ABOUT THE CDBG FUNDS.
THERE WAS A RFP THAT WENT OUT.
THERE WERE THREE ORGANIZATIONS, THREE TO FIVE ORGANIZATIONS THAT APPLIED FOR CDBG.
BUT IF THEY DON'T COME THROUGH, A LOT OF TIMES WHAT HAPPENS, THE MONEY CAN REVERT BACK TO US.
SO I WOULD NEED A DIRECTIVE FROM, FROM YOU GUYS TO SEND FIRST THING IN THE MORNING.
UH, SO THE MANAGER, UH, DID SPEAK TO ME ABOUT THAT.
SO I'LL JUST NEED TO WAIT FOR A DECISION.
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THAT TO YOU AS YOU WRITE IT.SO WE NEED A ROLL CALL FOR, OKAY.
BEFORE YOU, I JUST GOTTA MAKE SURE CAUSE I, I GOTTA VOTE MY CONSCIOUS ON THIS WHEN WE THAT'S RIGHT.
BECAUSE HOW WE GOT HERE, WE DEBATED THIS LAST MEETING TO MEET BEFORE.
AND NOW THAT WE ARE AT A COST DEFICIT EXPECTATION IN REGARDS TO HOW, HOW WE MOVE FORWARD, THEY ARE TO NOT RENOVATE IT, REVERT OR DEFLECT OR DIVERT CBG FUNDS WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF NOT GETTING ANY MORE.
CAUSE WE SPENT WHAT WE WERE GONNA DO NEXT, SPENT THE CURRENT FUNDS, THE TWO YEARS WORTH OF FUNDS AND IT'S TO SELL IT AS IS AND TAKE SOME LOSSES.
OR TO REHAB IT AS WE THOUGHT THE LAST MEETING AND THEN SELL IT AT A LOSS.
UM, BUT STILL WE GOT A FAMILY LOAD OF MID INCOME FAMILY WITH A GOOD HOUSE ON THAT PROPERTY IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO IT AIN'T OUR MONEY IN OUR POCKET.
BUT WE'RE TAKING, AT LEAST WE TAKE CARE OF ONE FAMILY OUT OF ALL THIS THAT WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH ALL THESE MONTHS WITH THIS HOUSE.
HEY, WE ALREADY DRUG IT ACROSS STANLEY WHITE AND PUT IT WHERE IT WAS AT.
SO I, I WOULD SAY LET'S LET SOME GOOD COME FROM THIS PROCESS.
AND IF AT ALL POSSIBLE, THIS WAS Y'ALL POSITION LAST TIME, LIKE ME AND ROBERT, YOU GONNA SPEND A COUPLE OF MONEY PUTTING IT IN THE HOUSE LIKE THAT
I UNDERSTAND NOW WHAT Y'ALL TALKING ABOUT.
UNDERSTAND NOW WHAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT.
SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY THINK OF THAT, THOSE TWO OPTIONS, Y'ALL.
I MEAN, CUZ SELLING IT AS IS WE JUST THROWING OUR HANDS, HANDS UP.
WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GONNA COME FOR THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S OVER THERE.
I WILL ADD, ALL THAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT EXECUTING THIS CONTRACT.
SO WE CAN STILL COME BACK TO THAT.
ALL WE ARE DOING WITH OUR MOTION TONIGHT.
NO, WE'RE NOT EXECUTING THIS CONTRACT.
AND IF WE DON'T EXECUTE THIS CONTRACT, IT'S GONE.
THAT'S WHY I SAID, WHOA, WHOA, THAT BACKS UP.
I SAID, YOU WILL NOT EVER BE ELIGIBLE FOR MORE CITY.
NO, NO, THIS PARTICULAR WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO WHY WOULD WE NOT DO IT? QUESTION.
SO AT, LET ME GET AN UNDERSTANDING.
AT THIS POINT YOU HAVE, ARE YOU SAYING THAT OUT OF THE HUNDRED AND $76,000, YOU DON'T HAVE THE WHOLE 1 76 TO GO TOWARDS THIS RENOVATION BECAUSE OF THE OTHER COST THAT HAS COME FROM THAT 1 76 THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SPENT? YEAH.
SO YOU HAVE $176,000 THAT YOU PUT ON THIS HOUSE.
AND THEN WE'VE DONE SOMETHING GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY AND WE, I'M SITTING HERE THINKING THAT 1 76, YOU'VE ALREADY SPENT SOME MONEY BECAUSE OF MOVING THE HOUSE AND THE CONTRACTOR WITH THIS GENTLEMAN OR WHATEVER.
BUT WE DRUGGING ACROSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
HUNDRED 76, I THINK AND TOO MUCH.
BUT EVERYTHING IN GOVERNMENT ALWAYS COSTS TOO MUCH.
SO WHAT, SO DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON HIS MOTION BECAUSE HIS MOTION'S OUT THERE? YES.
I'M NOT ASKING FOR DISCUSSION OF QUESTIONS.
HERE'S, YOU'RE GONNA RESTATE THE MOTION, PLEASE.
WE'RE NOT GONNA RESTATE IT AGAIN.
STEVE, WILL YOU RESTATE, RESTATE THE MOTION.
WE DECLINE THE OPPORTUNITY TO EXECUTE A CONTRACT WITH MRM FOR NINE 11 STREET.
AND THERE WAS A SECOND, UH, BY, UM, COMMISSIONER
AND WE'VE HAD QUESTIONS, SO WE NEED TO, YOU NEED TO VOTE.
UM, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, SORRY, I'M NOT IN FAVOR.
WHAT IS, THAT'S OKAY TO DO THE CONTRACT, RIGHT? YES.
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COMMISSIONER PARHAM? YEAH.I DON'T HAVE TO, I'M SAY NO, I'M GONNA SAY I DON'T TO THANK YOU.
SO THEN MADAM ATTORNEY, DO YOU NOW THE MOTION TO CHAIR DIDN'T VOTE.
I WAS LOOKING AT YOU, BUT I WASN'T LOOKING.
UM, I CANNOT LEAVE ANYBODY ON THE STREET.
I GUESS WE EXECUTE THE CONTRACT.
AND THEN WE NEED TO VOTE AGAIN TO, I MAKE A MOTION TO, UM, ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE EXECUTION OF CONTRACT WITH EDMOND FOR THE OWNER OF THE THIRD STREET PROPERTY, THE STATE INVESTMENT REMODEL THE HOME AT NINE 11.
ANY QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? NO.
DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL? YES, MA'AM.
NEED REPORT FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
[13. Receive reports from the Housing, Neighborhood and Health/Wellness working groups.]
WE HAVE HAVE A HOUSE AND WORKING REPORT TONIGHT? YES.UM, PREVIOUSLY SUBMITTED THE HOUSING WORK GROUP MET ON JANUARY 21ST AND HAD FOLLOWING DISCUSSIONS AND RECOMMENDATIONS FORMULATED, UH, LET'S SEE, A PROPOSED DRAFT OF RDC OWNED LOTS THAT WERE NOT FOR SALE WAS PRESENTED.
UH, THE DRAFT TRANSFERRED DOCUMENT FOR THE 10 LOTS BEING TRANSFERRED TO THE RDC BY THE COUNTY VIA THE CITY WAS REVIEWED.
SEVERAL ISSUES WERE RAISED AND RECOMMENDED THAT THEY BE STRICKEN FROM THE DOCUMENT.
A A NEW DOCUMENT HAS BEEN CREATED THAT IT IS VERY PALATABLE AND I THANK THE CITY ATTOR, UH, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR THAT WORK.
UH, WE'VE REVIEWED THE REQUEST FOR THE PURCHASE OF 8 37 PAVY STREET PRESENTED AT THE LAST MEETING.
WE SUPPORT THE SALE OF THIS CITY COUNTY OWNED PROPERTY.
WE DISCUSSED THE OPTIONS FOR THE NINE 11 UBANK STREET PROPERTY, UNRESOLVED ISSUES WITH RENTAL OWNERSHIP AND CB FUNDS REMAIN.
SO WE WERE, THIS IS CONFUSED AS WE WERE TONIGHT.
UM, WE REVIEWED THE BUDGET FOR THE JONES STREET PROJECT AND RECOMMENDED HIS APPROVAL.
WE REVIEWED INFORMATION FROM A COMPANY AND MR. REX WHITE ABOUT TINY HOUSE PRODUCTS HE SELLS AND FOUND THEM INCOMPATIBLE WITH RDC GOALS AND VISIONS AS WELL AS COMMUNITY AESTHETICS.
HE DISCUSSED THE USE OF FOR SALE SIGNS IN THE RDC, UH, ON ALL AVAILABLE SURPLUS PROPERTIES.
WE'RE OPPOSED TO THIS CONCEPT FOR REASONS OF NEGATIVE VISUAL IMPACT MAINTENANCE AND COST SURPLUS PROPERTIES CAN BE SHOWN ON BOTH CITY AND, UH, RDC WEBSITES.
AND AFTER THE MEETING, WE TOURED THE HOMES AT 8 22 GREEN STREET AT 8 37 PAVLEY STREET.
ANY QUESTIONS? HOW'S, THANK YOU ALL AGAIN SO MUCH FOR YOU DO.
WE DON'T HAVE A REPORT FROM, DO WE RECEIVE A WRITTEN REPORT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD? NO.
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OKAY.AWAITED REPORT FROM, UH, COMMISSIONER WALLACE, DEPUTY WELLNESS WORKING GROUP.
UM, ON FEBRUARY 3RD, 2023, WE CONDUCTED A MEETING WITH THE CAROLINA EAST FOUNDATION, UH, CHAIR BRINKLEY AND HIS STAFF, UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, SCOTT HARON ACTUALLY MADE TIME TO BE THERE.
MAYOR OUM, UH, UH, EXECUTIVE, UH, UH, TRIC BOWMAN AND THERESA LEE AND RAY JONES.
WE DISCUSSED THE BENEFITS AND LIMITATIONS OF A POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CAROLINA EAST FOUNDATION FOUNDATION.
UM, SOME OF THE LIMIT LIMITATIONS THAT WERE DISCUSSED WERE, UM, THEY CAN DO A LOT, BUT THEY CANNOT DO PAYROLL AND SALARY OBLIGATIONS BECAUSE THE BIGGEST BARRIER IN FRONT OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER IS RE RECURRING FUNDING FOR A PROGRAM MANAGER SO THAT WE COULD BE GREAT STEWARDS OF TAXPAYER DOLLARS AS WE SERVE OUR COMMUNITY THROUGH THAT CENTER.
MAYBE Y'ALL ALWAYS GO TO SOMEBODY SMARTER THAN YOU TO POINT YOU IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION BECAUSE THAT IS OUR BARRIER RIGHT NOW MOVING FORWARD.
UM, THE BENEFITS, WHAT I DIDN'T KNOW AND WHICH I'M GLAD WE HAD THIS MEETING WITH THEM, BEEN LIVING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THIS WHOLE TIME.
DID NOT KNOW THEY HAD THIS OVER THERE.
I'LL TELL YOU THAT THEY CAN HELP OUR PATIENTS BEING AT THEY'RE LOW INCOME WITH RESOURCES.
THEY CAN HELP THE CENTER WITH PROGRAM COSTS, EQUIPMENT, NUTRITION, PATIENT ASSISTANCE, MEDICAL COSTS, PRESCRIPTION COSTS, AND TRANSPORTATION.
AS LONG AS THE DOCTOR WRITES IT AS A PRESCRIPTION THAT SO THEY CAN GET BACK AND FORTH WITH.
THEY JUST FILLED ALL THE GAPS WE HAD IN OUR PROGRAM APPROACH UP TO THIS POINT.
UH, THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT JUMPED IN AND THEY HAVE, UH, NEW NURSES COMING ON.
THEY DON'T WORK FULL-TIME THROUGH THE, UH, THROUGH THE WEEK, BUT THEY HAVE LIKE FIVE DIFFERENT NURSES, LIKE THREE TO FOUR DAYS A WEEK.
UM, AND THEY, THEY WILL BE SEMI AVAILABLE.
THEY WILL WORK WITH US TO, TO MAKE SURE THEY SUPPLEMENT WHAT CENTRAL'S GOING DO AND WHAT DUKE IS GONNA DO.
UM, THEY ALSO, UH, VERBALLY COMMITTED THE SOME USE OF THE SMILE MOBILE AND THE BENEFITS OF THE IMPENDING STATE MEDICAID EXPANSION, THE GREAT NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL ASSEMBLY, WHO ALL WORK CLOSELY WITH ASHLEY GRANTS THAT THEN WE ARE IN BUSINESS.
THEIR PROJECTIONS IS 20,000 OF THE PEOPLE WE SERVE IN THIS COMMUNITY FOR 20,000 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.
CRA COUNTY IS HOW HE SAID, UH, WILL HAVE ACCESS, UH, TO MEDICAL ASSISTANCE.
SO THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT THAT.
AND THEY KIND OF LOOKED AT ME.
UM, THEN I HEARD DURING THAT MEETING THE TRUE MEANING OF THE, OF THE WHY WE WERE CREATED Y'ALL AS A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
I HAD NOT HEARD THAT PARAGRAPH THIS WHOLE FOUR YEARS.
I'VE BEEN UP HERE FEBRUARY 7TH, MOVE RIGHT ALONG.
UH, COUNCIL, YOU GOT THIS, BUT I SEEN, UH, CONDUCTED A MEETING WITH DAVID HAK, DIRECTOR OF THE Y M C A.
HE DISCUSSED A POTENTIAL ONGOING PARTNERSHIP WITH THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.
UM, THEY HAVE A LIVED STRONG, WHICH IS A 12 WEEK CANCER SUPPORT PROGRAM THAT ASSISTS PATIENTS IN THE FOLLOWING AREAS.
THEY PROVIDE PHYSICAL, CARDIOVASCULAR BALANCE, STRETCH AND REFLEX STRETCH AND REFLECT.
AND THEN FLEXIBILITY ACTIVITIES.
YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET FIRST GET DIAGNOSED WITH CANCER, THEY ASK YOU TO BUILD UP YOUR, YOUR PHYSICAL, UM, YOUR PHYSICAL CORE ACTUALLY, SO THAT YOU CAN BETTER TOLERATE THE TREATMENTS.
SO, AND THAT'S FREE FOR OUR COMMUNITY.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE ABLE TO DO THAT.
FREE FOR, UM, FOR OUR PATIENTS.
I MEAN, FOR PATIENTS WE POTENTIALLY, WE, WE WANT TO SERVE, UM, FOR THE ELDERLY.
THEY WANT TO DO HEALTH FORMS, CHAIR AEROBICS AND YOGA FOR, UM, FOR, FOR, FOR PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
THE STAFF AVAILABLE TO, UH, CONDUCT THE AFOREMENTIONED, UH, PERSONAL TRAINERS, THE SPORTS DIRECTOR AND THE MOBILE FITNESS COACHES.
YEAH, THEY WERE ALL IN BECAUSE THEY SEE A NEED AND THEY WANT TO FILL IT.
THEY ALSO CAN ASSIST US WITH DIABETES PREVENTION.
THEY SAY THEY, THEY SPECIALIZE IN THE PRE-DIABETIC PATIENTS BY DOING EXERCISE AND NUTRITION.
YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY TELL YOU, ALL RIGHT, YOU'RE PRE-DIABETIC, YOU NEED TO CHANGE YOUR DIET, YOU NEED TO DO THIS AND THAT.
THEY ASSIST PATIENTS WITH THAT.
BUT YOU HAVE TO BE MEDICAID ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THAT PROGRAM.
THE CHILDREN'S PROGRAM SAFETY AROUND WATER COURSES, UM, LIFEGUARD TRAINING FOR 14 AND UP.
AND THEY ALMOST GUARANTEE TOTT YOU A JOB DURING THE SUMMER AFTER YOU, AFTER YOU COMPLETE THAT COURSE.
SPORTS MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL AND THE VOLLEYBALL EVENT THIS SUMMER.
WE'RE NOT WAITING FOR SAN LEE WHITE CENTER TO BE BUILT.
Y M C A HAS STEPPED IN AND THEY ARE READY.
SO NOW THAT THE CAMERA'S ON, LIKE THE PRESIDENT, MR. STRICKLAND JUST SAID,
WE ASK SORORITIES, FRATERNITIES, CLUBS, EDUCATORS, BARBERS, LAW ENFORCEMENT, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
IF YOU HAVE A STATE IN THE COMMUNITY, WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU AT THAT TABLE.
AND WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS THE COMMUNITY APPROACH.
UM, THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO PROVIDE FOR THE CHILDREN OF THE, OF, OF
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THE COMMUNITY THAT WE SERVE WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE STANLEY WHITE TO GET CONSTRUCTED.BECAUSE WHAT WE NOTICED WHEN STANLEY WHITE LEFT, OKAY, THE, THE OPPORTUNITIES SPARSE FOR STUDENTS THAT LIVE IN THAT GREATER DIFFERENT FIELD AREA.
AND IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IT, JUST RIDE AROUND IN THE SUMMER AROUND NINE, 10 O'CLOCK, YOU'LL SEE 'EM RUNNING BACK AND FORTH.
I MEAN, THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO.
I MEAN, COURTS ARE NOT IN, UH, CRA TERRA'S DESK.
THEY PUT 'EM UP HERE RECENTLY.
TRENT COURT, THEY GOT FLOODED OUT.
THEY DON'T HAVE SAND WHITE THANK YOU TO THE CITY FOR PUTTING ANOTHER COURT UP THERE.
LIKE, ACT LIKE THEY HAVE WHEN THEY CLEAR WEATHER AND IF IT'S TOO COLD, YOU DON'T SEE EM OUT.
THEY'RE SHOOTING BALL NOW THROUGH COLD.
THE Y M C A SEES THAT AND THEY WANT TO FEEL THAT OPEN.
THEY DISCUSS HAVING A, UM, LIKE I TOLD YOU, THAT MIDNIGHT BASKETBALL, WHEN THEY LEAVE THE Y M C A A OPEN FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT, SO KIDS AREN'T OUT IN THE STREET MM-HMM.
AND HE BE, THEY WANT TO START THIS NOW.
SO I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A SHOUT OUT MR. HEK.
UM, HE'S VERY INTERESTING IN, IN, UH, PARTNERING WITH US FEBRUARY 7TH.
UM, YESTERDAY I TRAVELED TO DURHAM TO VISIT, UH, WITH THE STUDENTS AND POTENTIAL INTERNS OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.
AND AFTER WE HAD AN INSPIRATIONAL AND LEADERSHIP TYPE OF DISCUSSION, UM, IN THE, UH, AUDITORIUM OF DURHAM, THE NEW STUDENT CENTER'S.
UM, I'VE NEVER SEEN THE EXCITEMENT OF YOUNG FOLKS, UM, ACTUALLY COMING UP AND WANTING TO PARTAKE IN WHAT WE'RE DOING.
Y'ALL, I GOT APPROACHED BY THREE, UM, EMT STUDENTS THAT NEED TO FIND INTERN, UM, INTERN HOURS.
CAN YOU DO ANYTHING WITH EMT? AND THEN I HAD, UH, WHAT'S THE, UH, PHYSICIAN ASSISTANT TWO WITH THEM.
CAN WE DO SOMETHING AND SAY, LOOK, LEMME TELL Y'ALL MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS COME TO NEWBURG.
WE JUST NEED YOU TO COME TO, WE NEED THAT HUMAN CAPITAL.
Y'ALL YOUT, COME ON TO NEWBURG.
AND WE'LL FIGURE THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT THEY WANT TO DO, THEY WANT TO DO, UM, AND PARTICIPATE IN OUR PROGRAM.
SO I, THAT, THAT TRIP WAS, WAS WELL WORTH IT.
M MOU SECURED HEALTH DEPARTMENT, DURHAM TRY AND NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL UNIVERSITY.
WHEN I GET THEM, UM, CLEANED UP, I WILL SEND 'EM TO A, UH, UH, TO OUR COUNCIL.
WHAT IS UN WHAT WE HAVE NOT THAT'S, THAT HASN'T BEEN SECURED AS RCS MERCY CLINIC AND DUKE UNIVERSITY.
UH, WE HOPE TO SEE DUKE HERE PER MY NEXT ITEM DURING THE FIELD TRIP.
THE FIELD TRIP IS TE TENTATIVELY SCHEDULED FOR NEXT FRIDAY, FEBRUARY 17TH, 2023.
UH, WE'RE WAITING ON DUKE UNIVERSITY.
THAT'S THE ONE PIECE THAT NEEDS TO, UM, TO GIVE THE FINAL CONFIRMATION.
BUT AT NINE O'CLOCK WE LEAVE HERE AROUND, I GUESS SEVEN TO GET THERE BY NINE.
BUT AT NINE O'CLOCK WE WILL BE AT THE CARE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AND WE'LL STAY THERE UNTIL 11, 11 30.
WE WILL TRAVEL TO NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL WHERE THEY WILL HOST US AND PROVIDE US LUNCH.
AND THEY WILL DO A HEALTH AND, UH, COMMUNITY HEALTH PRESENTATION TO US FROM NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL WHILE WE'RE THERE EATING, BE LIKE A SEMI WORKING LUNCH.
WE'LL BE EATING WHILE THEY'RE DOING THE PRESENTATION.
ONE 30, WE ARE TO BE AT DUKES LINCOLN HEALTH CENTER AND WE WILL STAY THERE UNTIL THREE 30 SO WE CAN LEARN.
THAT WILL ASSIST ME IN WRITING AS WHAT CAME OUT THAT MEETING YOU WHO'S DANGEROUS.
UM, SO WE, I CAN WRITE THE JOB DESCRIPTION FOR THE, FOR THE, UM, FOR SITE MANNER.
I WAS TOLD DURING THAT MEETING THAT THAT'S MY PROBLEM.
THE CITY'S NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HELP THIS.
HE, THEY, THEY SAID THE CITY DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO HELP WITH THAT PROBLEM.
SO WHAT AM I ASKING FOR? SO WHEN YOU SAY WE ARE WORKING DEFICIT, I CAN USE THAT A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS PROFIT SO WE CAN AT LEAST GET THIS THING STARTED WHENEVER THEY, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY BREAK GROUND AND WE'RE READY TO GO AND Y'ALL HAVE AN IN THIS REPORT LIKE THIS AND TELL YOU ALL OF OUR PARTNERS ARE 10 TOES DOWN COMMITTED TO HELPING THIS COMMUNITY.
THEY SEE A NEED, THEY WANT TO ADDRESS IT.
THEY SEE SUFFERING, THEY WANT TO HEAL IT.
THEY SEE A CHALLENGE, THEY WANT TO OVERCOME IT.
EVERY LAST PERSON I MET WITH, EVEN THE HOSPITAL, THE HOSPITAL FOUNDATION WAS THE BEST.
CUZ THEY SAW IT REALLY SPITTING OUT WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS.
IF WE GET THE PROGRAM MANAGER, I DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY MORE REPORTS.
THEY ALREADY GAVE VERBAL COMMITMENTS.
MOU ARE COMING IN AND ONCE WE GET THE REST OF THE MOU ARE READY TO GO.
BUT THE PROGRAM, I SAY IT AGAIN.
ANYBODY WITH ANY IDEAS FOR THAT, THAT THAT PROGRAM MANAGER COME ALL IN? CUZ THAT'S THE ONE BARRIER WE HAD.
HAVE, SO THERE WAS A PROGRAM IN ATLANTA WHERE SOMEBODY WOULD BE AN EMPLOYEE OF A NON-PROFIT, BUT THEIR JOB WOULD BE BASED AT A COMMUNITY CENTER.
SO LIKE, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHO IT, WHO WOULD HAVE THE FUNDING HERE, BUT DO, DO WE HAVE AN RCS? DO WE HAVE A WELL-FUNDED NON-PROFIT? I KNOW IT'S NEWBURN, SO NOBODY'S LIKE, YOU KNOW, PRINTING MONEY, BUT COULD THEY ASSIGN A PERSON TO THE, SO THERE ARE A LOT OF GOOD NONPROFITS HERE.
A LOT OF 'EM THAT ARE ARE DOING, DOING WELL.
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THERE'S A LOT OF SMALLER ONES.TWO MORE SMALLER ONES THAN A LOT OF GREAT NONPROFITS HERE AT COMPOSITE.
AND THERE'S SOME LIKE INSURANCE AND WHATEVER ISSUE, I MEAN THERE'S SOME STUFF LIKE THAT, BUT IT'S LIKE PAPERWORK FROM, I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW, I DIDN'T KNOW ALL WHAT ALL THE DOCUMENTS LOOKED LIKE.
AND THE UM, AND THE REASON WHY I SAID THAT, THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO SEE, THAT'S WHY I STRADDLE THAT.
BUT I LEARNED THAT THE FIRST COUPLE WEEKS, YOU SEVERAL TIMES.
UM, BUT AGAIN, WITH THE PERSON WE GIVE AN MOU, WE CREATED WITH THAT NONPROFIT, GOD UNDERSTAND, WE'RE ENTRUSTING YOU WITH $350,000.
PROBABLY MORE THAN THAT BY THE TIME WE GET STARTED.
SO YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS THING.
AND THEN WE HEARD IN THE MEETING, THE PROGRAM MANAGER ANSWERS TO US.
YOU SHOCKED ME THE FIRST TIME I HEARD THAT.
UM, SO THEY ASK PROMISE AND WILL REPORT TO US AND WILL GIVE A REPORT TO THESE IN, AT THESE MEETINGS ON THE PROGRESS OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.
LAST THING I'M GONNA SAY, I PROMISE YOU IS I WON'T SAY NOTHING ELSE WHEN YOU THINKING OF THIS COMMUNITY, I SAID IT'S IN A MEETING.
LIKE WHY THAT? I NEVER HEARD IT PUT QUITE LIKE THAT.
THE PEOPLE IN THAT COMMUNITY, ALRIGHT, ARE USUALLY THE ONES THAT ARE, HAVE A JOB AND ARE WORKING, ARE USUALLY WORKING ENOUGH AND MAKING ENOUGH.
THEY DON'T QUALIFY FOR MEDICAID.
SO USUALLY IF YOU'RE WORKING YOUR LOW INCOME, THE MEN, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY TO PAY THE PREMIUMS FOR EXTERNAL PATIENT.
SO THE ONLY OPTION IS COMMUNITY HAS, THE MAJORITY OF THEM IS TO GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, WHICH WE ALL KNOW IS $1,500.
AS SOON AS YOU SIGN INTO THAT LITTLE COMPUTER FOR IT, $1,500 MINIMUM, REGARDLESS IF THEY GIVE YOU A BANDAID 1500, YOU RIDE AMBULANCE, GO AHEAD, CHOP IT UP.
SO AS I SAID BEFORE, THEY WAIT TO SEE A MEDICAL PROFESSIONAL BEFORE THEY THERE AND GO SPEND THAT KIND OF MONEY.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT URGENT CARE, IF YOU DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY UP FRONT, THEY'RE NOT GONNA SEE YOU.
THEN YOU GOTTA STAY UP TO 12 O'CLOCK AND THEN RESERVE ONE OF THEM 15 SLOTS THE NEXT DAY.
THEY DON'T TAKE WALKINS ANYMORE.
SO I, THE COMMUNITY THAT I'M, THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO THIS FOR, OKAY, NOW WE'RE HOPEFULLY WE'RE SUCCESSFUL FOR COURT WILL ADD THAT LAYER OF TRIAGE RIGHT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY WITH NURSES SO THEY CAN DIRECT THEM TO, TO YOU KNOW, TO THE RIGHT PLACE, RIGHT PLACE.
ALL THEY GOT IS THAT HIGH PRICE HOSPITAL URGENT CARE.
AND YOU STILL GOTTA PAY 30, EVEN IF YOU'RE COMING DOWN LAST NIGHT, THEY PUT YOU IN THE, THE WAIT ROOM SO THAT $3,500 YOU WROTE IN.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? SO Y'ALL JUST KNOW IN MY PASSION, MAN, I'M GETTING A LITTLE EXCITED.
PLEASE FORGIVE ME, BUT THIS WORK IS NEAR AND DEAR TO MY HEART AND THE COMMITTEE HEART AND YOU NEWCOMERS.
I NEED A VICE CHAIR OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
SO JUST THROWING THAT OUT THERE.
I SEE, I SEE A GAP RIGHT HERE IN THESE TWO SPOTS.
SO JUST I'LL TAKE BOTH OF YOU.
UH, COMMISSIONER WALLACE AND HE'S UH, HE RIGHT.
WE HAD A GREAT, UH, WE HAD A GREAT MEETING AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD, FORWARD TO, UH, THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER AS I, UH, SPOKE TO HIM AND TOLD HIM, UH, THE HORSES LEFT THE BARN AND IT'S NOT GOING BACK IN THE BARN.
AND SO, UH, AND UH, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MEETING WITH DAVID.
UM, HE, UM, ON THE, THAT REQUEST.
SO, UH, IS THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS OF, UM, COMMISSIONER UH WALLACE BEFORE WE MOVE ON? AND WE WILL CONTINUE THE, UH, REPORTS AS YOU CAN.
YOU CAN SEE FROM HELPING WELLNESS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE HOUSING WORKING, UH, WORKING GROUPS.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU PUT IN MEETING WITH THESE INDIVIDUALS AND DISCUSSING THE NEED FOR THIS HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.
UM, IT'S A DI NEED FOR OUR CITIZENS IN THAT IN THE COMMUNITY.
UM, I TILT MY HAT TO, YOU KNOW, YOU WEAR OF ONE, BUT I TILT MY HAT TO YOU.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND THE COMMISSION IN ANY WAY THAT I CAN.
UM, I WISH THERE WAS, UH, SOME OTHER CAPACITY THAT I COULD REALLY SERVE IN.
UM, BUT I'M DEFINITELY HERE TO SEE THAT.
TO GO AND GET THIS BUILDING ERECTED.
ONCE WE GET THAT BUILDING ERECTED, I'M READY TO GO.
YOU'RE READY TO GO BECAUSE YOU HAVE WORKED DILIGENTLY TO PROVIDE, TO HELP GET SOME SERVICES THERE.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU AND WHATEVER I CAN DO ON MY BEHALF AS A BOARD OF ALDERMAN, I'M JUST ONE ALDERMAN, BUT I CAN TALK TO OTHER ALDERMANS, BUT THERE'S OTHER ALDERMANS THAT FEEL THE SAME WAY.
WELCOME
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WORKED DILIGENTLY.YOU'VE WORKED HARD AND YOU'VE GIVEN YOUR TIME.
AND I LOOK AT THAT AS A PLUS WHEN YOU HAVE DEDICATED INDIVIDUALS AS Y'ALL HAVE BEEN.
AND I HOPE YOU CONTINUE TO BE YES.
UM, I WILL NEXT, UM, IS, UH, NEW BUSINESS STAFF.
DO WE HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT? NO.
WE DO NOT HAVE A CLOSED, UM, CLOSED SESSION, UM, TONIGHT.
SO AGAIN, UM, WE'LL SEE YOU BACK IN, UH, IN MARCH.
I DON'T THINK WE GOT SOME, UM, THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DISCUSS AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE A, A SPECIAL MEETING, BUT IF WE, IF WE DO WE'LL, WE'LL POLL YOU TO SEE.
UH, AGAIN, WELCOME AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, WORKING FOR YOU.
THANK YOU AMAN AFFAIRS AND ALDERMAN, UH, AND TO OUR, UM, ATTORNEY THAT KEEPS US.
AND PUBLIC AGAIN, THANK YOU SO MUCH.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ALL THAT YOU DO UNTIL OUR STAFF THANK YOU SO MUCH.
NEED A MOTION TO DO WE HAVE A SECOND? OKAY.