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GOOD AFTERNOON

[1. Welcome.]

EVERYONE.

UM, WE WILL WITNESS TIME START THE JUNE 6TH STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER ADVISORY COMMITTEE MEETING.

UM, AT ITS TIME I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR. BILLY MOORE TO, UM, OFFER PRAYER IF HE DOESN'T MIND.

GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE.

LET'S LOOK TO OUR FATHER.

FATHER, WE THANK YOU.

WE PRAISE YOU FOR THIS DAY.

WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR MANY BLESSINGS, AND AS WE COME TOGETHER, FATHER, TO STRATEGICALLY, UH, PUT TOGETHER YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS STANDARD WHITE COMMITTEE.

WE ASK THAT YOU GIVE US WISDOM AND, AND, AND DEVELOP STRATEGIES FOR VICTORY, FOR FAVORABLE OUTCOMES AS WE GO FORTH, LOOK UPON EACH ONE, AND WE ASK YOU NOW, LORD, THAT YOU WILL JUST HAVE YOUR WAY IN THIS TIME.

WE GIVE YOU THANKS, AND WE GIVE YOU PRAISE FOR ALL THINGS.

IN JESUS' NAME, AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU MR. MOORE.

US TIME, EVERYBODY WILL STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

PLEDGE JESUS TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE TRIAL.

ALL RIGHT, JAMES, IF YOU'LL PLEASE CALL ROB.

YES MA'AM.

I LEANDER MORGAN TALENA MASSEY JAMES WOODS PRESENT.

CURTIS STEWART PRESENT.

BERNARD WHITE.

HERE.

REGINALD PINDER.

ELIJAH BROWN.

HERE.

BARBARA LEE ALDERMAN.

HAZEL ROYAL.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

IF EVERYBODY WOULD TAKE

[5. Approve Minutes]

A TIME TO LOOK OVER THE MINUTES IF YOU HAVEN'T HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SO FAR.

UM, NOW IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.

18TH.

GINGER.

WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR APRIL 18TH? NO, HE'S JUST, HE JUST LAST MEETING WE HAD WAS IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, THE BID.

RIGHT? RIGHT BEFORE THE BID WAS GOING OUT THE WEEK BEFORE? NO, IT WAS AFTER THEY HAD ALREADY GONE OUT.

WE HAD ONE BEFORE THEY WENT OUT AND THEN WE HAD ONE AFTER.

OH, THE CALL MEETING? YEAH.

OKAY.

CONSIDER THAT OFF.

OKAY.

WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A MEETING AND THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE IT AND THEN WE HAD A CALL MEETING BID WAS AWARDED.

YEAH.

YEAH.

THINK IT WAS THE SAME DATE THAT THE BID HERE.

GOT IT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE MINUTES? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED THE SAME.

ALL RIGHT.

MINUTES APPROVED, SANDRA.

ALL RIGHT.

SO,

[6. Bid Award.]

UM, FIRST THING TALKING ABOUT ON THE AGENDA IS THE BID AWARD.

UM, THERE WAS A PRESENTATION AT THE LAST BOARD MEETING BY, UM, CPL, UH, CHRIS VOLCANO, THE CONSULTANT, UM, REGARDING THE AWARD.

AND IT WENT TO LOAD BID, WHICH WAS TA 11.

UM, THE CONTRACT IS IN REVIEW AT THIS TIME.

UM, AND HOPEFULLY THEY'LL BE COMPLETED SOON.

WAS THE TA LOVING? YES.

WAS THE CONTRACTOR

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FOR THE LOW BID.

UM, LET ME SEE, HER TOTAL BID WAS 13 385.

400.

SO THE QUESTION WITH THE BID, UM, THE FIGURE YOU JUST ESCAPED, UH, IS THAT LOCKED IN OR CAN THEY COME BACK AND ASK FOR MORE? WELL, I THINK THAT'S PART OF THE CONTRACT, BUT AS FAR AS ASKING FOR MORE FOR THE BASE BID, THEY CANNOT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IN ADDITION, EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT TISDALE HOUSE WAS MOVED.

UM, THIS WEEK.

UM, PUBLIC WORKS HAS STARTED CLEARING UP SOME OF THE RUBBAGE FROM THE HOUSE AND STUFF THAT WAS LEFT AT THE BASEMENT AREA.

GONNA BE FILLING THAT IN AND, UM, MAKING THE AREA READY FOR, UM, THE CONTRACTOR TO GET STARTED WITH THEIR PORTION ONCE THE CONTRACT'S SIGNED.

UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE DO HAVE A SIGN THAT'S BEEN ORDERED TO, UM, PUT UP AT THE SITE FOR, UM, NOTIFY PEOPLE THAT IS THE FUTURE SITE OF STANLEY HEIGHT RECREATION CENTER.

UM, I'M TRYING TO THINK WHAT ELSE.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE, UH, CONTRACTOR OR ANYTHING ABOUT THE SITE OR LEAVING UP THE HOUSE? I DON'T, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CONTRACTOR? WHEN THEY CONTRACTOR COME IN? HE, UM, CAN I SAY THIS? HE'S GOING TO HAVE SOME PEOPLE THAT THAT DEAL AROUND HERE WORKING, WORKING WITH HIM? WELL, IT DEPENDS ON WHO HE SUBCONTRACTS TO, IF HE HAS SUBCONTRACTORS FOR SOME OF THE OTHERS.

AND RIGHT HERE IT HAS LISTED, UM, MECHANICAL.

HUH? BENGAL IS ONE OF THEM.

UH HUM.

YEAH.

HUMPHREY MECHANICAL, MECHANICAL FOR THE PLUMBING, I THINK.

DO WE HAVE ACCESS TO THAT DOCUMENT THAT YOU, THAT YOU HAVE? YES, I CAN SEND YOU THIS.

SO IT IS, UM, THE SUBCONTRACTORS, HUMPHREY MECHANICAL, EO ELECTRIC CONTRACTING, AND THEN RA BINGO, SHEET METAL.

I MEAN, AFTER WE HAD SEVERAL MEETINGS, UH, CERTAIN INFORMATION THAT I RESPECT TO RECEIVE, UH, NOT RECEIVING, YOU KNOW, I WANTED TO KNOW THE DIFFERE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT WORKING FROM NEWBORN THERE.

WE TALKED ABOUT MAKE SURE MINORITIES AND MINOR BLACK AND MAKE SURE THERE ARE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF BLACKS WORKING.

SO PEOPLE OUT HERE LEAST HAVE A JOB.

UH, IT'S SOMETHING THEY CAN DO AND THEY CAN, SO THEY WALK TO A JOB, YOU KNOW? SO JUST THEY NEED WAR TOO.

OTHER PEOPLE COMING FROM THE EMPLOY AMOUNT OF MONEY, PEOPLE HERE STILL DON'T SOMEBODY RIGHT HERE.

THAT'S WHY I THINK ABOUT, I DUNNO HOW EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS ABOUT IT, FRANK.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT DEPEND ON THE SUBCONTRACT, WHETHER WHO THEY HIRE, BUT I GUESS THEY WOULD'VE TO CONTACT THEM.

THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO KNOW AS FAR AS, UH, YOU WORKING.

YEAH, I THINK WHAT HE, WHAT HE IS REFERRING TO AND WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER, AND WE EVEN WHEN YOU WAS, UH, IN YOUR POSITION WHEN THEY DID THE FRONT OF, UH, TO THE OLD BUILDING IS IN ALL THE MEETINGS WE WENT TO, IT WAS A PROMISE THAT THEY WAS GONNA HIRE MINORITIES IN THE COMMUNITY.

AND THAT'S WHEN HE WAS ASKING.

AND EVERY TIME THAT WE COME WITH A PROJECT AND THAT PROMISE IS MADE, THEY NEVER FOLLOW THROUGH WITH IT.

BUT, UH, FROM MY EXPERIENCE WITH, WITH CONTRACTORS, OR IF YOU, IF YOU BRING IN SUBCONTRACTORS, THEY GONNA BRING THEIR OWN PEOPLE THAT, FROM MY EXPERIENCE, EVERY, EVERY JOB I, FROM CHERRYPOINT TO CAMPBELL JONES TO UH, UH, SEYMOUR JOHNSON,

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THEY BRING THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

I WORKED WITH A LOT OF CONTRACTORS.

UM, I WAS ONLY ONE FROM NEW BURN, BUT THEY HAD THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

WHEN WE DID THE Y M C A, UH, EAST GRAND MASONRY CAME FROM GREENVILLE.

THEY BOUGHT THEIR OWN PEOPLE.

THEY HIRED A FEW PEOPLE FROM LU.

UM, BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THEY HAD TO DO.

BUT THE LATER PROGRESS THAT WE BEEN HAVING, THE PROMISE WAS MADE AND NEVER FOLLOWED THROUGH.

WELL, I CAN'T SPEAK TO THAT AS FAR AS WHO THE SUBCONTRACTORS HIRE TO WORK FOR 'EM.

UM, OR HOW THE SUBCONTRACTORS OR THEY BID TO THE CONTRACTOR, I THINK SEPARATE.

SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S UP TO THE CONTRACTOR WHO THEY PICK FOR THEIR SUBCONTRACTORS.

BUT I'LL DO MY BEST TO GET THE INFORMATION, YOUR REQUEST, AND ONCE THE PROJECT STARTS, ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION.

SO WHEN, WHEN THIS CONSTRUCTION STARTS, IS, IS THE GROUNDBREAKING GONNA BE BEFORE THEN OR AFTER? THERE WILL BE A GROUNDBREAKING BEFORE ACTUAL START OF CONSTRUCTION.

OKAY.

WELL, WHEN IS THAT, UH, THE DATE FOR THAT HAS NOT BEEN SET YET.

IT WON'T BE SET UNTIL AFTER THE CONTRACT IS SIGNED.

WILL WE BE INVOLVED? YEP.

WILL YOU LET US KNOW? ABSOLUTELY.

UM, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SAY OR TIME YOU GOT INTO THIS, BUT HOW, HOW DO YOU, HOW DO YOU MAKE SURE MINORITIES AT LEAST HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY? BECAUSE THAT WAS DISCUSSED AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS PART OF KIND OF THE, THE GUIDELINES THAT THEY, THEY, WELL, WHEN THEY SEND IT OUT FOR BID, IT'S SENT TO ALL THE LOCAL MM-HMM.

AVENUES FOR GETTING IT OUT TO CONTRACTORS.

IT'S ALSO SENT TO THE HISTORICALLY UNDERSERVED BUSINESSES.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT BASED ON THE CONTRACTORS THAT YOU, THE SUBS THAT YOU HAVE OR ANY OF THOSE MINORITIES, I WOULDN'T KNOW.

I DON'T THINK SO.

WHO, WHAT ARE THE NAMES OF THEM? BINGO ONE THEY SPOKE TO, I THINK THEY, HUH? HUMPHREY.

AND I KNOW SOME PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR HUMPHREY.

ISN'T HUMPHREY LOCAL TOO? NO, I THINK THEY HAVE A JACKSONVILLE, BUT THEY DO A LOT OF CONTRACTING ON BASE.

SO BINGO, HUMPHREY'S, OTHER ONES.

EL ELECTRIC, EL.

MM-HMM.

.

EL ELECTRIC IS LOCAL OR THEY USED TO BE, THEY DO A LOT, THEY HAVE A LOT OF CONTRACTS ON BRIEF.

SO WHO'S, WHO CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I GUESS? SO WE CAN LEAVE ON, UM, I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO TALK TO THE PURCHASING DEPARTMENT AND SEE IF THEY HAVE THE INFORMATION ON EACH ONE OF THOSE TO FIND OUT, OR A PURCHASING OFFICER.

BUT BASED ON THE NAMES YOU READ, OBVIOUSLY NONE OF THOSE ARE MINORITY COMPANIES.

SO HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT KIND OF WELL, I DON'T THINK WE CAN MAKE THAT ASSUMPTION.

WELL, THEN WE, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THESE UNLESS, I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T KNOW HOW THEY FILE WITH THE SECRETARY OF STATE, BUT BASED ON THESE NAMES DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THESE ARE MINORITY COMPANIES.

HUMPHREY AND EL ELECTRIC, I'M NOT.

WELL, UNTIL I KNOW FOR CERTAIN, I MEAN, I DON'T WANNA ASSUME I NOT, SO THEN HOW DO YOU GET BACK WITH US OR THE COMMUNITY SO THAT FOLKS, BECAUSE THAT WAS DEFINITELY SAID, I DON'T WANNA SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON THIS AND DRAG IT OUT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE SHOULDN'T JUST PUSH THAT UNDER THE RUG.

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

LIKE FOLKS SAID, HEY, WE'RE GONNA HIRE SOME MINORITIES, THEN IT WILL SEEM LIKE YOU, THAT SHOULD HAPPEN.

RIGHT? YEAH.

BUT I'LL FIND OUT AND THEN I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU GUYS.

PLUS IT'S A FEDERAL CONTRACT.

SO MY UNDERSTANDING ON FEDERAL CONTRACTS, SO MANY MINORITIES, THE CONTRACTORS HAVE TO EMPLOY SO MANY, SO MANY MINORITIES.

RIGHT? BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO BE MINORITIES THAT LIVE IN NEWBURN.

WELL, I WASN'T, I'M NOT SPECIFYING NEWBURN.

I'M SAYING MINORITIES IN GENERAL.

YEAH.

YEAH, THEY DO.

THAT'S A REQUIREMENT.

AND FIRE THE WAY I FEEL RIGHT NOW AND WHAT YOU SAID, AND, AND I THAT'S TRUE.

IT DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A NEW RUN, BUT I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE YOUR PERSON COMING HERE AND DOING ANYTHING THAT, AND THEN THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE HERE ARE NOT BE ABLE TO GET A JOB, DON'T LAST SIX MONTHS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S LIKE NOT FEEDING THEM CHANGE THIS.

OKAY.

ANY MORE INFORMATION

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OR QUESTIONS REGARDING NOW SEE WHAT I CAN FIND OUT REGARDING THE ACTUAL MINORITY OF THE CONTRACTOR SUBCONTRACTORS IN THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE NUMBER OF MINORITIES THAT WORK FOR THOSE BUSINESSES.

THE ONLY THING I DO HAVE IS I JUST REQUEST, UH, AND YOU'RE FINDING OUT, UH, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, NOT WEEKS.

YOU KNOW, WHAT YOU GOTTA DO TO HAVE THE CONTRACT SIGNED? THE ONE THAT THEY PRESENTED TO YOU GUYS? UM, I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE IT WITH ME, BUT COUPLE WEEKS.

I THINK ONCE IT'S DONE BEING REVIEWED, THEY HAVE TO REVIEW IT AND THEN IT'LL COME BACK TO US.

BUT SOMETIME IN JUNE.

MM-HMM.

.

ALL RIGHT.

NEXT THING

[Items 7 & 8]

ON THE AGENDA.

UM, WE DID SUBMIT A APPLICATION FOR RURAL TRANSFORMATION GRANT, UM, IN MAY, I THINK IT WAS MAY 3RD, UH, REQUESTING $950,000 TO GO TOWARDS THE CONSTRUCTION OF STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER.

UM, AND THE AWARD ON THOSE GRANTS WILL BE MADE ON JUNE 16TH.

AND HOW MUCH WAS IT AWARDED FOR? WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL THEY AC THE 16TH.

YEAH.

BUT 950,000 WAS REQUESTED.

WELL, WE GONNA GET THAT.

WELL, THE, AND I, AGAIN, I DON'T WANT TO MAKE CONFRONTATIONAL CONVERSATION, BUT IS THIS NOT KIND OF THE SPINOFF TO THE PEPSI GRANT? THE, THE, THE, IT WAS, WE DID APPLY FOR IT BECAUSE IT HAD TO BE A SHOVEL READY PROJECT AND THE PEPSI MUSEUM WAS NOT, WE PUT YOU IN THE MOST UNCOMFORTABLE CONVERSATIONS.

I KNOW IT, BUT HOW IS IT NINE 50 AN HOUR THOUGH? THEY WERE SAYING THE REASON WHY THEY COULDN'T USE IT IS BECAUSE THEY COULDN'T GET THE NINE 50 THAT THEY SAID THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SPOT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT.

THE AMOUNT, THE REASON THEY DIDN'T APPLY, THE REASON THEY DIDN'T APPLY CAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A SHOVEL-READY PROJECT.

WHAT WAS A DOUBLE SWORD? I'M THE ONE THAT SUBMITTED THE GRANT, SO I KNOW WHAT WAS REQUIRED AND THEY DID NOT HAVE WHAT THEY NEEDED.

WELL, THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE, WELL, AGAIN, THEY DIDN'T, THEY, THE BOARD COULDN'T COME TO A CONCLUSION ON WHERE THEY WANTED TO GO.

THEY STILL WOULDN'T HAVE HAD IT.

YOU HAD TO SUBMIT ARCHITECTURAL PLANS THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN APPROVED, WHICH THEY WOULD NOT HAVE HAD FOR THE PEPSI MUSEUM.

WE DID HAVE FOR STANLEY WHITE.

I GOTCHA.

I HAVE A QUESTION.

I'LL BRING Y'ALL THE DOCUMENTS I HAVE TO SUBMIT IF YOU WANNA LOOK AT 'EM.

NO, BUT I MEAN, I, IT, IT I GET IT.

IT WAS IN THE, I WAS IN THE MEETING.

I, AND I, I LISTENED TO THE BOARD GO BACK AND FORTH ABOUT IT.

BUT IT'S A, I MEAN, IT IS WHAT IT IS.

THE MONEY'S GONNA BE USED.

BUT THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY COULD NOT GET THE MONEY EITHER.

THAT WAS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOBBY CONTINUED TO TALK ABOUT.

BUT HEY, WE CAN'T GET, IT'S NOT GONNA BE, IT'S HALF THE MONEY NOW.

CAUSE WE WAITED SO LONG.

WE DON'T HAVE THE THINGS TOGETHER.

YOU DON'T REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION? IT'S PROBABLY, YEAH.

BUT THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH SUBMISSION OF THE GRANT AND THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT COULD BE REQUESTED.

I GOTCHA.

MY QUESTION IS, UH, IF THEY GET THAT GRANT OUT THERE, THERE, THEY HAD TO ALL BE, WE ALREADY HAVE FUNDS IN PLACE FOR THE UPGRADE OF HENDERSON PARK, SEE, STARTED WORKING OUT.

WE HAVE FEMA FUNDS FOR THAT.

AND WHEN IS THAT? NO, I'LL START TAKING PLACE.

IT'S ALREADY STARTED.

THEY'VE, UH, PUT THE POST UP FOR THE NEW SHELTER AND STARTING TO GRADE THE GROUND UNDER THAT.

IT STARTED LAST WEEK, THE INSTALLATION OF THE SHELTER.

GOT IT.

SO WE, WE DISCUSSED IT THE OTHER DAY, UM, AT THE SITE, UM, IN REGARDS TO, UH, FING AND THE FLOOD, UH, UM, SITUATION OUT THERE.

UM, THE ELEVATION OF THE BATHROOMS AND THE SHELTER IS NOT THAT HIGH.

UM, SO IN RELATION TO, TO THAT, UM, HOW IS THE RULE WITH THE HANDICAP THING YOU WERE TELLING ME ABOUT MM-HMM.

, UM, HOW, HOW DID THAT RELATE? HOW DOES IT RELATE TO THE ELEVATION? YOU SAYING IT HAD TO BE IN, IN ORDER FOR SOMETHING TO BE ADA ACCESSIBLE, WHICH IS A DEPARTMENT ADJUSTMENT JUSTICE REQUIREMENT.

MM-HMM.

, YOU HAVE TO MEET CERTAIN MEASUREMENTS, SLOPE GRADE FOR ACCESSIBLE ROUTES INTO RESTROOMS. RIGHT.

OKAY.

SO WHAT DOES THAT ANSWER WHAT YOU WERE ASKING ME? THAT'S WHAT I ALREADY KNEW.

MM-HMM.

.

BUT I WAS SAYING BECAUSE OF THE AREA, THE THE BUILDING WOULD MOVE BECAUSE OF THE FLOOD AND THE WATER.

RIGHT.

SO I'M SAYING YOU'RE PUTTING THE BATHROOM LOWER THAN THE OTHER CITY BATHROOMS? NO, THEY'LL BE, THEY'RE GONNA BE ELEVATED, BUT IT YOU SAID MINIMALLY, BUT THEY'RE ALSO GONNA BE FLOOD PROOF.

RIGHT.

I HEARD THAT PART.

SO THAT'S,

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THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO FIND OUT.

ONE OTHER QUESTION I HAD, UH, OUT THERE AT HENDERSON PARK, CAUSE IT, UH, ARE THEY GONNA TELL THE OTHER SHELTERS OR THEY GONNA LEAVE ONE OR TWO OF THEM UP OR THE OLDEST ONE OUT THERE? I BELIEVE THE INTENTION IS TO LEAVE THE BIGGEST ONE AND POSSIBLY REMOVE THE TWO SMALL ONES TO MAKE ROOM FOR THE PLAYGROUND EXTENSION.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE REGARDING HENDERSON PARK? WHAT, WHAT IS THE, UM, DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE THE MOST UPDATED SKETCH TO THAT OR IS THAT THE, STILL THE SAME ONE? THAT'S WHAT WE SEE FOR HENDERSON PARK.

THE ONE I HAVE IS STILL THE SAME INITIAL CONCEPT.

OKAY.

AND THEN WHAT'S THE TIME? IS THERE, IS THERE, UH, A TIMELINE ON THOSE EVENTS IN THE, AS QUICK AS WE CAN GET IT DONE? SO LIKE FRANCIS, WAS THIS PRE, HOW LONG AGO WAS IT PLANNED TO PUT THE SHELTER OUT THERE LAST WEEK? I GUESS WAS THAT KIND OF LIKE, HEY, WE GOT THE STAFFING TO DO IT NOW OR WAS IT IT WAS THE NEXT PROJECT ON DE LIST ONCE WE GOT DONE WITH PLEASANT HILL COMMUNITY CENTER.

SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, ARE FOCUSES ACTIVELY WORKING ON HINDI PART NOW? THIS KIND OF, THIS IS GONNA BE A ONE-OFF SITUATION AND COME BACK TO IT.

AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE RESOURCES ALREADY TO CONTINUE, IT WILL CONTINUE THE WORKOUT THERE.

UNLESS THERE'S AN EMERGENCY THAT WE HAVE TO PULL OFF OR SOMETHING ELSE, YOU KNOW.

I'M SORRY.

YEAH.

TWO MORE THINGS.

I, I THINK LIKE THREE MONTHS AGO MAYBE, UH, MIGHT BEEN LONGER.

I, I HAD ASKED ABOUT, UM, EXTENDING ANOTHER COURT BESIDE THE ONE, THE ONE THAT'S PRESENT AND I WALK IT OFF AND IT HAS AMP OFF ROOM FOR ANOTHER COURT THE SAME SIZE AS THE ONE THAT'S POSITION NOW.

AND ALSO ASKED ABOUT CHANGING THE BACK DOORS.

MM-HMM.

TO GLASS.

UM, BECAUSE I, I MEAN WE BIG, WE ARE A BIG CITY AND I, UH, VASPER, MAYSVILLE AND THESE OTHER LITTLE SMALL TOWNS, THEY DON'T CALL THIS UP CITY.

AND THEY HAVE STATED THE HARD EQUIPMENT ON, ON THE PLAY PLAYGROUND ON THE COURTS.

AND I THINK BECAUSE WE STARTING FRESH AT ANDERSON PARK, WE NOT ONLY NEED, UH, THINGS OUT THERE, BUT WE NEED GOOD THINGS OUT THERE.

AND IT DON'T LOOK GOOD TO ME.

NOT, NOT EVERY TIME I DRIVE BY IT LOOKS CLOSE BAD.

SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES COMING TO ME TELLING ME THE SAME THING.

AND THE LAST THING IS, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TYPE OF COURT THE FLOOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE IN RUBBER OR WHATEVER IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

WHATEVER IT IS, IT ONLY BEEN OUT THERE FOR A FEW MONTHS AND IT'S ALREADY PEELING OFF.

YEAH.

UM, SO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT THAT.

YEAH.

WE NOTICED THAT.

AND UM, MR. HOOKS HAS ALREADY GOT A PLAN FOR REDOING THAT.

I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS SOMETHING IN PRODUCT OR WHAT HAD PREVIOUSLY BEEN ON THAT, UH, SLAB, BUT HE IS CAUSING ISSUES.

UH, YEAH.

NO, THAT'S NOT, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S CONCRETE AND IT'S SMOOTH.

THEY GOT, THEY, THEY GOTTA PUT A, SOME KIND OF A HEATED, UH, UH, HEAT TO THAT.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THE ONLY THING GONNA MAKE IT STAY WE TO DO IT ALL TIME ON BASE.

SO.

ALL RIGHT.

ANYTHING ELSE REGARDING HENDERSON PARK? WHAT'S THE NEXT PROJECT? UH, AFTER THE, UH, SHELTER, UM, WE'RE GONNA START PLAYING IT TEARING OUT THE OLD FITNESS EQUIPMENT.

UM, AND THOSE OTHER TWO SHELTERS, AND I'M NOT CERTAIN, BUT I'M GOING TO SAY THAT THE RESTROOMS WOULD BE THE NEXT.

SO, UH, UH, CAN WE, CAN WE GO AHEAD AND, UH, START, START ON, UH, DEMOLITION ON THE OLD ONES? CAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA USE THEM ANYMORE.

SO WE, ONCE HE GETS DONE WITH INSTALLATION OF THE NEW ONE MM-HMM.

, HE WILL MM-HMM.

.

THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

REMOVING THOSE AND THE OLD FITNESS EQUIPMENT.

OKAY.

WHAT DO YOU DO, DO AWAY WITH THE FITNESS EQUIPMENT? NO, WE'RE GONNA PUT NEW BACK THERE.

GOTCHA.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALL RIGHT.

AND THEN THE LAST THING

[9. Public Input at Juneteenth Celebration.]

I HAVE IS WE HAD PREVIOUSLY TALKED ABOUT DOING A SURVEY, UM, TRYING TO GET INPUT ON PROGRAMMING FOR VISTA STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER WHEN IT OPENS.

UM, AND WE HAVE THE SURVEY READY TO GO, BUT WE WOULD LIKE TO SET UP A TABLE

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WITH JUNETEENTH SO THAT WE CAN, UH, WORK ON GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE COMMUNITY ABOUT WHAT THEY WANT TO SEE.

UM, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING THAT DAY, I'LL BE THERE.

GINGER WILL BE THERE.

AND, UH, WE'VE FIXED DIFFERENT TIME SLOTS FOR IF PEOPLE WANT TO, UH, SIGN UP TO DO 30 MINUTES WITH HELPING US, UM, GET INDIVIDUALS TO TAKE THE SURVEY OR TALKING TO INDIVIDUALS ABOUT A NEW CENTER.

UM, SO I'M GOING TO PASS THIS AROUND.

IF YOU'RE INTERESTED, YOU CAN SIGN UP TO COME JOIN US, UM, AND HELP US OUT THAT DAY.

SO YOU'RE JUST GONNA HAVE ONE LOCATION, UH, THERE, WE'LL HAVE A TABLE SET UP WITH A TENT, BUT WE'LL ALSO HAVE SOME PEOPLE FLOATING AROUND AS YOU'LL SEE HERE WHEN YOU CAN SIGN UP.

WE'VE GOT BOOTH VOLUNTEER AND THEN FLOATER SPOTS WHERE YOU CAN SIGN UP.

OKAY.

AND I, AND THE REASON I ASK IS CAUSE THE LAST, THE ONE THAT THEY HAD, I DON'T, IT MAY HAVE BEEN THE FIRST ONE ON BROAD STREET, BUT UM, THEY HAD DIFFERENT AREAS AND I KNOW IN THE BIG FIELD THEY HAD A, A MASSIVE PEOPLE THERE.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF WE COULD HAVE A TABLE IN EITHER SPOT ON BROAD STREET AND ONE THERE.

UM, YOU KNOW, CAUSE SOME, SOME MIGHT NOT EVEN COME ON BROAD STREET.

WELL, IT'LL DEPEND ON HOW MANY PEOPLE CAN VOLUNTEER AND HELP AT ONE TIME SO THAT WE CAN DISPERSE AND BE IN TWO LOCATIONS.

UM, BUT IF NOT, WE CAN DEFINITELY USE SOMEBODY FLOATING AROUND WITH THE IPAD TO, WE PROBABLY NEED THAT TOO.

SO ELIJAH, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THERE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE ANYBODY ON BROAD STREET.

EVERYBODY'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE BIG FIELD.

SO THE WHOLE WHOLE PROGRAM IS GONNA BE IN THE BIG FIELD, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.

OKAY.

THAT'S WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE.

UM, I, I, FOR SOME REASON I HEARD, I, I REMEMBER THAT.

WELL, I, I'LL REACH OUT TO JAMIA, UM, ARE EITHER, UH, BUT I'LL BE WALKING AROUND, UM, CUZ WE'RE, UH, PART OF THE SECURITY WITH THE POLICE OFFICERS MM-HMM.

.

SO I, I I'LL HELP, BUT I'LL JUST SEND PEOPLE TO THE TABLES.

YEAH, THAT'S FINE.

YOU CAN PROBABLY DO MORE THAN, SO I PUT TWO.

THAT SOUNDS GOOD.

THANK YOU.

SO, UM, THE SURVEY IS THE SAME QUESTIONS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME, OTHER THAN WE ADDED IN, WHAT WAS THE THING WE ADDED IN GINGER? UM, WE ADDED IN, UH, SPECIFICALLY LIKE TUTORING PROGRAMS AND, UM, EDUCATIONAL SUPPORT.

OKAY.

I FOUND THE SURVEY.

CAN WE, CAN WE LOOK AT THE SURVEY? YEAH.

DID I GIVE YOU A COPY? THOUGHT I GAVE YOU A COPY.

OH, I'M SORRY.

.

THAT'S THE SURVEY SO IT'S NOT, YOU KNOW, REAL ELABORATE FIVE AND IT'S FIVE QUESTIONS.

THAT WAY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE TO STAND THERE FOREVER.

I THOUGHT IT WAS FIVE QUESTIONS.

DID WE MISS A PAGE? THREE.

THREE QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

SO IT SHOULDN'T TAKE PEOPLE A LOT OF TIME, BUT IT'LL GIVE US SOME USEFUL INFORMATION ON WHAT THEY'D LIKE TO SEE.

SO IT STARTS AT 12, UH, OUT THERE.

IT STARTS AT 12, THE PARADE IS AT 11.

SO YEAH, RIGHT AFTER THE PARADE, EVERYTHING STARTS WHERE THE PARADES START.

THE PARADE IS GONNA BE ON THIRD AVENUE GO DOWN BROAD STREET TO ROUNDTREE.

OH, OKAY.

EVERYBODY ENDS UP RIGHT THERE IN FRONT OF.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS REGARDING THE RECREATION CENTER OR HENDERSON PARK SURVEY? SO THESE SURVEYS THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO DO, DO YOU WANT TO THEN TAKE THAT DATA AND UH, COMPILE IT TO LOOK AT WHAT THE COMMUNITY'S ASKING FOR? YES.

WE'LL DO, UM, SAY CAN

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YOU SAY THAT AGAIN CURTIS? I MEAN, I WAS SAYING THE DATA, THE SURVEY SHE'S DOING, IS SHE GONNA TAKE 'EM AND I GUESS QUANTIFY 'EM, PUT 'EM, COMBINE 'EM, AND THEN KIND OF GIVE, UH, I GUESS LIKE SOME FEEDBACK ON HEY, THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY WAS ASKING FOR AND THEN HOW MUCH OF THAT INPUT IS ACTUALLY GONNA HAPPEN, WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS? YES.

I MEAN THAT'S THE POINT IN DOING IT.

WE'LL TAKE THAT AND THAT'S WHAT WE'LL, WELL WE HAVE, I MEAN, BUT WE HAVE THOSE TYPE TYPES OF CONVERSATIONS ALL THE TIME AND THEN THOSE THINGS DON'T NECESSARILY, SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST ASKING.

THAT'S THAT'S GONNA PULL FROM IT FOR SURE.

YES, THAT'LL BE THE GOAL THAT WHAT THE COMMUNITY SAYS THEY WANT TO SEE THERE.

THOSE ARE THE TYPE OF PROGRAMS WE WILL AIM TO PROVIDE.

AND HOW MUCH OF THE PREVIOUS DATA THAT WAS DONE WITH THE, UM, UH, SURVEYS THAT WERE DONE AT THE LEGACY CENTER AT THE WEST NEWBURN, UH, HOW MUCH OF THAT THOSE PROGRAMS ARE GONNA GO INTO? WELL, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT CONSIDERING IF THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, GOSH, SEVERAL YEARS NOW.

SO THAT DATA CAN BE A LITTLE BIT DATED AND IT MAY NOT GIVE US THE BEST.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT I'M NOT SAYING IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED.

I MEAN WE CAN DEFINITELY PULL FROM IT MM-HMM.

AND COMPARE IT TO WHAT WE GET NOW.

SO, AND SEE IF THERE'S SIMILARITIES.

YEAH.

SO FOLKS SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE WAS, YOU KNOW, AFTER, YOU KNOW, AFTER THE SCHOOL PROGRAMMING THEN AND NOW IT DOESN'T GET AS MUCH ATTENTION.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT MAY NOT TAKE PLACE BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SO LONG AGO.

NO.

OKAY.

SO, SO, SO IS THAT, SO BUT YOU'RE SAYING THAT INFORMATION MAY NOT BE RELEVANT NOW BECAUSE IT'S DAVID.

RIGHT.

IT COULD BE NOT BE RELEVANT BECAUSE IT IS DAVID DATA.

SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO TOOK THOSE SURVEYS, IF IT WERE PARENTS OR WHATEVER, THEY'RE KIDS MAY BE FIVE YEARS OLDER NOW AND THEY MAY NOT NEED THE SAME SERVICES THAT THEY NEEDED BEFORE.

I DON'T THINK IT WAS FIVE YEARS AGO.

BUT I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

BUT I THINK OKAY.

I THINK IT'S, I THINK I REALLY DO, I THINK IT SHOULD BE FACTORED IN THAT THE REASON I'M SAYING I'M, I'M KINDA ON THE SAME LINE THAT WITH COURTESY IS, IS SIMPLY BECAUSE WHEN WE HAD THOSE MEETINGS AT THOSE DIFFERENT LOCATIONS, WE HAD A MASS OF, UH, CITIZENS THAT COME OUT FROM, FROM ALL SIDES AND THEY PUT THEIR EFFORT IN AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE AT LEAST CONSIDERED TO BE FACULTY IN, I DON'T CARE HOW LONG IT'S BEEN, THE, I THINK THEIR OPINIONS COUNTED BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT IT DID.

SO IF WE DON'T PUT IT IN THERE, UH, AT LEAST TRY TO USE SOME OTHER, UH, IT'LL BE A MISTAKE.

YEAH.

AND THAT'S WHAT I SAID.

WE WOULD TAKE IT, COMPARE IT TO SOME OF THE NEW DATA, SEE HOW THEY CORRELATE.

UM, WE ALSO LOOK AT TREND ANALYSIS TO SEE WHAT THE CURRENT TRENDS ARE FACTOR THAT IN.

THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT GO INTO IT.

YEAH, WELL JUST LIKE YOU WERE SAYING THAT SOME OF THE, THE, THE PARENT KIDS MIGHT BE GROWN NOW OR THEY MAY BE TEENAGERS.

YEAH.

BUT THEY, IF THEY'RE TEENAGERS, IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS A WAY COMING BEHIND THEM.

YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY, MY MY POINT OF VIEW IS, YEAH.

THANK YOU.

MM-HMM.

.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, WE, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION THEN WITH, UH, SOME INFORMATION THAT WE MAY SEND TO US.

BEFORE WE GIVE THIS TIME, DO WHAT INFORMATION THAT YOU MAY SEND TO US REGARDING THE, UH, SUBCONTRACTOR MINORITY MM-HMM.

, I'LL SEND, WE'LL SEND THAT OUT VIA EMAIL.

APPRECIATE IT.

AND UM, YOU KNOW, AS WE GO FORWARD AND GATHER DATA, WE WILL PUT 'EM IN, UM, CHARTS OR GRAPHS, WHATEVER BEST SUITS THE INFORMATION.

WE'LL HAVE THE PREVIOUS INFORMATION, LIKE I SAID, HOW THEY CORRELATE TO ONE ANOTHER AND YOU GUYS WILL RECEIVE ALL THAT ALSO.

YEAH, THE ONLY THING I'LL SAY ABOUT IT, IT JUST KIND OF IS INTERESTING HOW YOU PRESENT THAT.

BECAUSE IF THE DATA THAT WAS USED THEN TO BUILD, NOW WHAT'S GONNA BE STANLEY WHITE WAS USED FROM YEARS AGO.

WHY WOULDN'T YOU TAKE THE PROGRAMMING THAT PEOPLE ASKED FOR THEN AND ELISE COMBINE IT WITH THIS? I GUESS THAT'S, SO I'M SAYING BECAUSE IT'S ALL RELATIVE, RIGHT? AND I SAID THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD DO, BUT I'M SAYING THAT IT'S ALWAYS IMPORTANT TO GET UP TO DATE DATA ALSO.

WELL THAT'S WHAT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT IT'S GOT TO DO THOUGH.

YOU GUYS HAVE TO DO THAT.

YOU HAVE TO DO THIS PUBLIC INPUT.

AGAIN, IT'S NOT, I'M NOT REQUIRED TO DO THIS PUBLIC INPUT.

I'M DOING THIS SURVEY BECAUSE THAT'S THE RECREATION PROCESS.

LIKE I'M NOT REQUIRED TO DO THE SURVEY.

SOME FEMA GUIDELINES THAT YOU SHOULD STILL GET SOME PUBLIC INPUT.

RIGHT.

BUT I'M SAYING IN ORDER TO PROGRAM, WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DO PUBLIC INPUT.

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HOW WOULD YOU GET THE PUBLIC INPUT NOW? I'M SAYING THERE'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OTHER THAN THE CERTIFICATION AND THINGS THAT WE FOLLOW, BUT THERE'S NO LAW THAT SAYS THERE'S SOME GUIDELINES AROUND GETTING MORE PUBLIC INPUT.

RIGHT.

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

THE RECREATION PROCESS.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? WHEN WILL WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING AND WILL WE HAVE THAT MEETING WHEN IT'S CALLED WILL WE HAVE, DOESN'T HAVE SPACE THAT WE NEED TO HAVE IN? WELL, AS LONG AS THERE'S NOT A MEETING THAT'S BEEN SCHEDULED THAT WASN'T ON THE CALENDAR WHEN I SCHEDULED THIS ONE, THEN YES, WE'LL HAVE IT AT THE APPROPRIATE DATE AND TIME.

SOME OF US HAD THINGS ALREADY SCHEDULED AND WE LEAVE THAT MEETING OPEN FOR THE TIME THAT WE WERE HAVING.

I UNDERSTAND.

I LEFT IT OPEN FOR THAT TIME AS WELL AND I HAD NO CHOICE BECAUSE IT WASN'T ON THE CALENDAR AS IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN.

NOT OURS, BUT ANOTHER ONE.

SO, BUT YES, IT'LL BE, THAT WILL BE JULY 18TH THIS YEAR.

GONE PRETTY FAST.

JULY 18TH.

I WON'T BE HERE.

OKAY.

HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVE ALL IN FAVOR? ALL.