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[1. Call To Order and Welcome.]
EVERYONE.WELCOME TO THE NEW REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
THANK YOU AGAIN, SO MUCH FOR COMING.
THANK, UH, THE COMMISSIONERS FOR COMING IN FOR THEIR SACRIFICE OF, UH, TIME.
VICE CHAIR, COULD WE HAVE A ROLL CALL? SURELY? COMMISSIONER BRYANT? PRESENT? COMMISSIONER WALKER? HERE.
COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND? HERE.
COMMISSIONER WALLACE CO-CHAIR.
UH, EXOFFICIO MEMBERS? ALDERMAN FRILL.
YOU HAVE A QUORUM, RIGHT? THANK YOU.
[3. Approve the Agenda]
THE, UM, ON OUR AGENDA IS TO APPROVE, UH, THE AGENDA.DO WE HAVE ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED, UH, TO THE AGENDA FIRST FROM THE COMMISSION? NO MA'AM.
FROM STAFF? FROM THE ATTORNEY? NO, MA'AM.
COULD WE HAVE AN APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
ITEM FOUR IS OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES, AND THEY ARE ON THE, UH, BACK.
IF WE COULD START WITH COMMISSIONER MORGAN ON THE BACK OF YOUR AGENDA.
UH, PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE, EQUAL TIME.
LISTEN TO BUILD CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
STAY FOCUSED AND BE ACTION ORIENTED.
JOIN ME ON THE LAST ONE, STEVE, BELIEVE.
ANYBODY SEEN THE LAST EPISODE OF TED LASSO? YES.
UM, ITEM, ITEM, UH, FIVE ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC.
WE DID NOT RECEIVE ANY SHEETS, SO WE DO NOT HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT THIS EVENING.
[6. Approve Minutes]
ITEM SIX IS TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.WE HAVE THREE SETS OF MINUTES.
UM, ATTORNEY MOSLEY, DO WE NEED TO APPROVE THEM ONE BY ONE, OR CAN WE DO 'EM ALL TOGETHER? NO, MA'AM.
YOU CAN DO THEM ALL TOGETHER SO LONG AS THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS.
EVERYONE THAT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE MINUTES.
WELL, LET ME ASK YOU THIS FIRST.
WOULD YOU MUCH RATHER DO ONE OR ALL THREE TOGETHER? ALL THREE.
WE ACCEPT THE MINUTES FROM APRIL 12TH, MAY 1ST, AND MAY THE 10TH, ALL IN THE YEAR OF 2023.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? CORRECTIONS OR DEPLETIONS? LET US VOTE.
[7. Presentation by New Bern Preservation Foundation on 1772 Foundation Planning Grant]
PRESENTATION BY NEW PRESERVATION FOUNDATION ON, UH, 1772 FOUNDATION PLANNING.GRANT, YOU CAN COME TO THE PODIUM, SIR, AND GIVE US YOUR, UH, NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE MINUTES, PLEASE.
I'M RICHARD PARSONS, AND I LIVE AT TWO 13 HANCOCK STREET IN NEWLAND.
I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE NEWLAND PRESERVATION FOUNDATION, AND I WANT TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE HKA REPORT IN THE 1772 GRANT.
UM, LAST YEAR, MATT SHELLY MET WITH PRESERVATION FOUNDATION, GEORGIANA BOWMAN BIRCHER.
THEY USED THE PRESERVATION FOUNDATION 5 0 1 C THREE, TO APPLY FOR THE 1772 FOUNDATION FOR A $20,000 GRANT TO STUDY THE FEASIBILITY OF A REVOLVING FUND IN DRYBAR.
THE HUFFER REPORT WAS THE OUTCOME OF THE FEASIBILITY STUDY.
THE HUFFER REPORT FOUND THAT THERE WAS GOOD JUSTIFICATION FOR THE PRESERVATION FOUNDATION TO PUT A REVOLVING FUND SCHEME IN PLACE.
THE HUBER REPORT IDENTIFIED THE FOLLOWING, UH, WAYS THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MIGHT BE OF ASSISTANCE TO THE REVOLVING FUND THAT YOU MIGHT CONTRACT WITH REAL ESTATE ATTORNEYS FOR TITLE WORK ON COMPLEX CHAIN OF TITLES AND HEIRS.
ACQUIRE TARGETED PROPERTIES FOR REHABILITATION, PROVIDE CAPITAL FOR REHABILITATION, FACILITATE MOVING
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OF PROPERTIES AS OPPORTUNITIES ARISE, COVER POSSIBLE PROGRAM LOSSES, AND POSSIBLY CONSTRUCT NEW INFILL CONSTRUCTION.UH, THE NEW PRESERVATION FOUNDATION HAS EMBRACED THE HUFFER REPORT.
WE HAVE EXPANDED THE MISSION TO INCLUDE DUFFY FIELD IN THE REVOLVING FUND AND WILL BE APPLYING TO THE 1772 FOUNDATION FOR REVOLVING FUND MONEY.
IN THE MEANTIME, THE PRESERVATION FOUNDATION IS IN NEGOTIATION WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER IN DUFFY FIELD TO PURCHASE A VACANT PROPERTY THAT IS HIS FAMILY HOME, UH, TO REHAB IT AND GIVE HIM AND HIS NIECE, UH, RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL TO BUY IT AT MARKET TERMS. WE'VE ALSO HAD DISCUSSION WITH SEVERAL RESIDENTS OF DRYBAR ABOUT THE POSSIBILITIES OF ACQUIRING PRESERVATION COVENANTS ON THEIR PROPERTIES IN EXCHANGE FOR REHAB MONEY.
FOR EXAMPLE, UH, ONE WOMAN NEEDS A NEW GAS PACK, AND WE ARE THINKING ABOUT NEGOTIATING WITH HER TO GIVE US A COVENANT ON HER PROPERTY, WHICH WOULD BASICALLY STATE THAT IT WOULD REMAIN OWNER OCCUPIED IN EXCHANGE FOR A GAS PACK.
OUR GOAL IS TO REDUCE THE NUMBER OF ABSENTEE LANDOWNERS MM-HMM.
WHAT QUESTIONS CAN I ANSWER? OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
COMMISSIONER PARKER, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ASK IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING, UM, SO I'VE LOOKED UP THE, UM, YOUR FOUNDATION, BUT IS THERE ANYTHING IN WRITING, LIKE ON THE INTERNET YOU CAN DIRECT US TO OR ANYTHING YOU HAVE THAT JUST SORT OF EXPLAINS THE GRANT? OR CAN I JUST GOOGLE IT AND FIND THE GRANT? I'D JUST BE INTERESTED IN SORT OF SEEING, WELL, THE, YOU CAN GOOGLE THE 1772 FOUNDATION, BUT I WOULD SUGGEST, UM, AND I WAS A LITTLE BIT CAUGHT OFF GUARD BY BEING HERE TONIGHT.
I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE AND GRATEFUL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
UH, MATT SHELLEY, ORGANIZED WHO'S IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, UH, HE HAS A COPY OF THE HUFFER REPORT.
WHICH IS, IS WHAT WE ARE WORKING ON.
WHAT, WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE REPORT, SIR? HUFFER, H U F F A C E R C E R.
THAT WAS THE NAME OF THE MAN WHO DID THE STUDY.
BUT THAT, THAT HUFFER REPORT WAS FINANCED WITH THE $20,000 GRANT FROM THE 1772 FOUNDATION.
HOW, HOW DO YOU GO ABOUT SELECTING HOMES THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, UH, REHAB? IT'S LARGELY AS THE HUFFER REPORT SAID, IT'S LARGELY, LARGELY OPPORTUNISTIC.
UH, WE'VE GOT SOME THINGS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAPPEN.
UH, WE DON'T WANT TO DISPOSSESS ANY CURRENT RESIDENCE.
UH, IF SOMEBODY, IF WE DID TARGET A PROPERTY TO BUY THAT WAS OCCUPIED, WE'D TRY TO FIND HOUSING FOR THAT PERSON BEFORE WE PURCHASED THE PROPERTY.
UH, THE CURRENT ONE WE ARE WORKING WITH IS VACANT.
UM, OTHER THAN THAT, UH, WE ARE TRYING TO SUSTAIN THE HISTORIC NATURE OF DUFFY FIELD AND DRYBAR.
THE ONLY QUESTIONS COMING TO MIND THUS FAR, AND IT'S PROBABLY TOO EARLY IN THE GAME.
HAVE YOU WORKED ON ANY KIND OF, UH, FINANCIAL ARRANGEMENTS WITH THE FOLKS THAT, WELL, YOU MENTIONED ONE GENTLEMAN HAS THE OPPORTUNITY TO WRITE A FIRST REFUSAL.
ARE ARE Y'ALL DOING ANYTHING ON THE, THE FINANCING FRONT TO HELP WITH THAT? I CAN'T HAVE ANYTHING I CAN TALK ABOUT YET.
BUT OUR GOAL IS THAT, UM, UH, WHAT WE'RE PLANNING TO DO IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS BUY THE HOUSE FROM THE PEOPLE.
UH, IT'S AS NEAR AS MAKES NO DIFFERENCE UNDER FINANCIAL WATER.
IT, IT HAS MORTGAGE ON IT, IT HAS BACK TAXES ON IT.
AND, UH, THEY MAY NOT GET ANYTHING AT THE BEGINNING.
THEY MAY NOT GET ANYTHING EXCEPT DEBT RELIEF.
UM, BUT THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE RIGHT OF FIRST REFUSAL TO BUY IT BACK AT FAIR MARKET VALUE.
UM, BOTH OF THESE PEOPLE ARE WORKING INDIVIDUALS AND HAVE GOOD INCOME, AND WE ANTICIPATE THAT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GET CONVENTIONAL FINANCING.
BUT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS A, IS A NEW SHOW.
UH, THE PRESERVATION FOUNDATION HAS ALREADY DONE 64 65 PROPERTIES IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 50 YEARS.
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AND, UH, WE HOLD COVENANTS ALREADY ON ABOUT 64 65 PROPERTIES.AND THIS IS JUST AN EXTENSION OF WHAT WE ARE DOING OUT OF THE DOWNTOWN HISTORIC DISTRICT AND INTO DEPUTY VILLE.
COMMISSIONER WALKER, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION RIGHT NOW.
COMMISSIONER VOY, VICE CHAIR ON, ON THIS PARTICULAR HOUSE YOU'RE WORKING ON.
YOU SAY YOU'RE GONNA SELL IT, YOU'RE WILL DETERMINE THE FAIR MARKET VALUE, HOW, HOW YOU PLAN ON DOING THAT? BY APPRAISAL.
UH, WE'VE ALREADY HAD IT APPRAISED AS IT STANDS NOW.
AND, UH, OUR PURCHASE PRICE WILL BE RELATED TO THAT APPRAISAL.
AND THEN WHEN WE REF REHABBED IT, UH, WE'LL HAVE IT APPRAISED AGAIN.
UM, THAT SEEMS TO BE THE, THE FAIR MARKET WAY TO GO ABOUT IT.
UH, WE ANTICIPATE, UH, WE'RE GOING BEFORE THE BOARD.
THIS, THIS IS THE ACQUISITIONS AND COVENANTS COMMITTEE OF THE FOUNDATION.
AND WE ANTICIPATE GETTING SOME OF THAT BACK, NOT NECESSARILY ALL OF IT.
WELL, THAT'S, THAT'S PART OF WHAT NONPROFITS THAT, THAT WE WORK.
COMMISSIONER MORGAN, CAN YOU SHARE WITH US, UM, WHAT THE ADDRESS IS OF THE FIRST PROPERTY, SIR, THAT OR WORKED ON? SIR, WE CAN'T DO THAT.
THANK YOU FOR OBVIOUS REASONS.
UH, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE, UH, COMMISSION.
THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE AND SPEAK TO YOU.
UH, MR. UH, PARSONS, WOULD YOU LEAVE, UH, YOUR PHONE NUMBER WITH MR. ZA RIGHT THERE, SO THAT IF THE COMMISSION, UH, WANTS TO TALK ABOUT IT LATER, THAT THEY HAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER.
SO IF YOU GIVE TO HIM, I DIDN'T WANT YOU TO GIVE IT ON
AND I, MADAM CHAIR, I WILL, UH, GET UP WITH, UH, MATT SHELLEY AND GET THAT INFORMATION ABOUT THAT.
AND MY APOLOGIES TO MR. PARSONS.
I, I WAS UNDER THE ASSUMPTION THAT YOU WERE, UH, AFFORDED, UH, MORE NOTICE THAT YOU WERE GONNA BE HERE.
UM, CAUSE I KNOW THAT LAST MONTH YOU WERE, WERE SCHEDULED TO BE HERE, BUT DUE TO CHANGES.
SO, UH, AGAIN, MY APOLOGIES FOR THAT.
BUT I'LL, I'LL, UH, GET UP WITH MATT SHELLEY AND, AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL HAVE THE INFORMATION REGARDING THAT BARBARA GRANT GOT ME INTO THIS
MAYBE THIS IS A MONTH OR TWO TOO SOON, AND I LOOK FORWARD TO COMING BACK AND SEEING AGAIN.
UM, YEAH, UH, AGAIN, THANK YOU FOR YOUR, UH, WRITTEN REPORTS, UH, AS, UM, AS, AS WELL.
[8. Working Groups Report (Part 1 of 2)]
A HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UH, CENTER.UH, MR. WALLACE IS, UH, NOT HERE.
COMMISSIONER WALLACE IS NOT, UH, HERE.
WE GONNA, UH, MOVE ON? NO, NO.
I, AND COME BACK TO, OH, YOU GONNA DO, OH, OKAY.
AS YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TO BORROW WALLACE.
I'M SHARON BRYANT AND I WILL GIVE THIS REPORT AS HE SEND IT IN TO ME.
ON THE BEHALF OF TABARI, I UNDERSTAND TABARI UPDATE TO BE AS FOLLOWED.
TABARI MET WITH THE CITY STAFF MEMBERS ON THE HOUSE AND WORKING GROUP, AND MR. REGGIE JONES ON MAY 24TH FOR 2023.
DURING THAT MEETING, THEY DISCUSSED AMONG MANY THINGS WHAT ENTITIES WERE OWNED AND RUN THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER TO BE LOCATED AT BLOOMFIELD STREET.
THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FORECAST A NUMBER OF POSSIBLE LEGAL OPTIONS, WHICH WAS DISCUSSED IN LATER CONVERSATION AND VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS.
ALTERNATELY, TOBAR RECOMMENDED THAT PATH FORWARD IS TO CONVEY THE R D C LOT LOCATED ON BLOOMFIELD STREET TO THE CITY, WITH A DEED RESTRICTED THAT PROPERTY BE USED FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS SLASH COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND THE SUPPORT OF THIS PREFERENCE TO BORROW SHARE OF THE FOLLOWING, THE CITY HAS THE RESOURCE TO BUILD
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AND CONSTRUCT A FACILITY MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN THE COMMISSION CURRENTLY CAN.THE CITY CAN RENT THE BUILDING TO HELP CARE PARTNERS AND PROVIDE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION, WHEREAS THE RDC CANNOT.
THE RDC WILL CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY PARTNERS AND PROVIDE TO RUN CENTER OPERATION, PROVIDE HEALTH CENTER SERVICE, HEALTHCARE SERVICE, AND FACILITATE OTHER WELL INITIATIVE.
THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS GROUP ARE ASKING THE RDC TO VOTE TO CONVEY NINE OH EIGHT NINE TEN NINE FOURTEEN BLOOMFIELD STREET TO THE CITY OF NEW BERN, WITH THE RESTRICTION THAT THE LOT BE USED FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS SLASH COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND WE LOCATE FUNDS PREVIOUS GIVEN TO THE R D C FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER BACK TO THE CITY OF NEWBURG.
AND SO ON THE AGENDA, WE HAVE DISCUSSION ON THE RECOMBINATION AND SERVING FOR THE WELLNESS CENTER ON BLOOMFIELD STREET.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS DISCUSSION ON CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME, PROPERTY OWNERSHIP AND, AND STAFFING.
AND, UM, UH, ATTORNEY, UH, MOSES COULD HAVE THAT DISCUSSION.
THEN IT COMES BACK FOR, UH, UH, BOTH, OR IS THAT, YOU COULD HAVE BOTH FOR 'EM TONIGHT, CUZ IT'S ONLY UP HERE FOR A DISCUSSION.
UH, BECAUSE THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING, UM, ANYBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION IF THEY FEEL SO INCLINED.
AND YOU CAN HAVE AS MUCH DISCUSSION AS YOU THINK IS PR.
WELL, WE'RE GONNA GO INTO DISCUSSION AND IF SO MOVED, THEN WE'LL DO THAT.
SO YOU'VE HEARD THE, UH, REPORT, YOU'VE HEARD, UH, THE INFORMATION.
I THINK MOST PEOPLE, UH, MOST OF US FROM THE COMMISSION HAVE HEARD IT ONCE OR, UH, TWICE.
SO WE GONNA OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION FROM, UH, THE COMMISSION AND THEN WE'LL DECIDE WHERE WE GO, UH, FROM THERE.
SO, UM, MR. MORGAN, I'VE, UH, BOTHERED YOU TWICE AND SO I'LL GO TO THE OTHER END THIS TIME,
SO, UH, THAT LEADS TO, UH, YOU COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
NO QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS AT THIS TIME? I'LL RESERVE THE RIGHT AS A CONVERSATION OF OFFICER COMMISSIONER WALKER.
UM, I DON'T THINK I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
I THINK I UNDERSTAND WHAT HE'S RECOMMEND OR THE RECOMMENDATIONS WORK GROUP IS RECOMMENDING MM-HMM.
UH, NOTHING, UH, BASED ON THE AGENDA THAT WE'RE TALKING, THERE'S NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT CUZ IT MATCHES UP, DOESN'T MATCH UP AT ALL WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE, OF THE WORK GROUP.
I HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING AND I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING AT THIS TIME.
DISCUSSION ON, UM, AND WE ARE GONNA, WE ARE GONNA COME, UH, BACK TO IT AND, AND, UH, IF WE WANNA MAKE A MOTION OR WHAT, BUT LET'S, UH, FINISH IT OUT HERE.
DISCUSSION ON CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME, PROPERTY OWNERSHIP AND STAFFING.
MADAM CHAIR, UH, A QUICK, QUICK INFORMATION.
I, I THINK WE PROBABLY NEED TO VOTE ON THAT FIRST BECAUSE VOTING ON THAT, THE OTHER PART IS, IS GONNA BE SEPARATE MM-HMM.
SO, YEAH, IT IS, BECAUSE WE, WE ARE VOTING TO GIVE THE PROPERTY, THEY'RE GOING TO, YOU KNOW, BUILD IT SO FAR, RESTRICTIONS.
BUT THE SECOND PART, DISCUSSION ON CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME, PROPERTY OWNERSHIP AND STAFFING, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE SEPARATE.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S A DIFFERENT ISSUE.
SO IF WE MOVE FORWARD THAT THEN THE CITY KNOWS THAT WE AGREE WITH WHAT WE HAVE AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
BUT THE SECOND PART, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S GONNA BE ANOTHER DISCUSSION.
SO MY MOTION WILL BE IS TO ACCEPT THE RECOMMENDATION, UH, FROM, UH, WHAT BROTHER TABARI PRESENT AND AS TO GIVE THE PROPERTY TO THE CITY.
UM, WHAT ELSE? SHARON, THE CITY HAS RESOURCED TO BUILD AND CONSTRUCT A FACILITY MORE EFFICIENTLY THAN THE COMMISSION CURRENTLY CAN.
THE CITY CAN RENT THE BUILDING TO HELP CARE PARTNERS AND PROVIDE NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATION.
WHEREAS THE R C CANNOT, THE R DC WOULD CONTINUE TO IDENTIFY PARTNERS PROVIDE TO RUN THE CENTER OPERATION, PROVIDE HEALTHCARE SERVICE, AND PHIL FACILITATE OTHERS' WELLNESS INITIATIVE.
WHAT DID IT SAY? DIDN'T YOU READ SOME ABOUT, UM, TRANSFERRING THE SON THE FUNDS BACK TO THE CITY'S GENERAL
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FUND? RIGHT, RIGHT.SO AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT JUST HEARD OF THIS RIGHT NOW? NO.
JUST FIRST OFF, DIDN'T, SO I'M, SO WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT RECOMMENDATION WHEN WE WROTE THIS AGENDA.
SO I THINK WHAT I, WHAT I WOULD THINK IS THIS WAS TALKING ABOUT OUR CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTY AND LIKE WHAT OUR TIMELINE WAS GONNA BE AND WHAT OUR PROCESS WAS GONNA BE.
NOT WHAT WE'RE GONNA, LIKE THE CITY'S GONNA DETERMINE THAT.
SO NO, IF IT GOES TO THE CITY, SO THAT MOTION FOR THAT WILL ELIMINATE THE SETTLEMENT.
I'M NOT, NOT, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE'RE PREPARED AND IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA.
I DON'T KNOW HOW WE POSSIBLY VOTE ON SUCH A BIG THING WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING, LIKE HEARING MORE OF THE BACKGROUND, THE PROCESS, THE DISCUSSION, AND HAVING MORE OF OUR OWN.
I WOULD THINK WE DON'T JUST GIVE AWAY PROPERTY AND GIVE MONEY BACK WITHOUT MORE WELL, OKAY.
WELL, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED SEVERAL TIMES.
I THINK THAT HAD THAT PART THERE.
AND THAT MAY HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE ME.
IT DID, IT HAPPENED WHEN WE HAD THE, UH, WE HAD INDIVIDUAL MEETINGS WITH CITY MANAGER AND THE MANAGER AND THE CITY AND THE MAYOR, AND THEY EXPLAINED SOME OPTIONS FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD THAT WOULD HELP US.
THAT WAS PART OF THE RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY MANAGERS, ASSISTANT, CITY MANAGER, AND THE MAYOR.
THAT WAS, THAT WAS YOUR RECOMMENDATION.
AND IT WOULD MAKE IT EASIER FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD, BASICALLY TAKE IT OFF OUR PLATE, WHICH MEANS WE DON'T HAVE CONTROL OVER IT EITHER.
SO I THINK WE JUST NEED TO FIGURE OUT IS THAT THE BEST FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA FOR US, FOR THE CITY TO HAVE IT AND NOT YES.
SHE'S JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, HAVING A FULL DISCUSSION ABOUT, I UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S SAYING.
COMMISSIONER WALKER, WOULD THERE BE ANY, UM, INFLUENCE FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION? COULD THERE BE ANY INFLUENCE OR ANYTHING ON THE CITY OF TIMEFRAME? YOU KNOW, ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE LISTED HERE.
UM, THE CONSTRUCTION TIMEFRAME, THE STAFFING, OR, I'M NOT SURE THAT WE COULD HAVE ANY INFLUENCE ON IT, IS WHAT I'M SAYING.
WELL, WOULD WE EVER, WELL, AND MAYBE THAT'S A QUESTION FOR JAMIE.
I THINK IT'S, WHAT'S THE QUESTION? BASICALLY, IS THERE A WAY TO CONVEY PROPERTY WITH A RESTRICTION THAT WE STAY INVOLVED ON IN, YOU KNOW, THE RUNNING OF THE, IN THE BOARD CAPACITY OF THE RUNNING OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER? SO, UM, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, I, I WILL TELL YOU THIS, THAT I, I THINK THE RECOMMENDATION FROM MR. BAR, MR. WALLACE, AND HE AND I HAVE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT IT.
UM, THE, THE DEED RESTRICTION WOULD LIMIT USAGE OF THAT PROPERTY MM-HMM.
YOUR INVOLVEMENT WITH HOW THAT CENTER OPERATES, UM, I CERTAINLY THINK THAT THERE WILL BE SOME INTER ENTITY COOPERATION BETWEEN YOURSELVES AND THE CITY.
IF YOU WANTED TO FORMALIZE THAT IN SOME TYPE OF WRITTEN DOCUMENT, UM, CERTAINLY THAT COULD BE DONE.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH MR. WALLACE, HE HAS, UM, GONE TO DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE STATE IN CONJUNCTION WITH MR. REGGIE JONES AND HAS EFFECTUATED SEVERAL PARTNERSHIPS AND I THINK WILL YIELD ADDITIONAL PARTNERSHIPS.
I THINK IN ORDER FOR THE, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM ALL THESE CONVERSATIONS IS THAT FOR THE CENTER TO BE SUCCESSFUL, THE CITY WOULD NEED THE BENEFIT OF THOSE CONNECTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY ESTABLISHED.
SO I THINK THE CONTINUED SUCCESS OF THE PROJECT KIND OF IMPLIES YOUR CONTINUED COOPERATION WITH THE PROJECT.
BUT CERTAINLY IF YOU WANT TO FORMALIZE IT, WE CAN DO THAT.
LET'S, TO ME IT FEELS LIKE, YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONER WALLACE AND OTHERS HAVE WORKED SO HARD ON THIS, AND IT WAS A THING WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOWARDS AND WE'RE DOING, AND THEN IT'S LIKE, NOPE, GIVE IT TO THE CITY.
I, I'M NOT REALLY FOLLOWING THAT.
LIKE WHY IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE WORKED SO HARD ON AND WE THINK WILL BENEFIT AND, YOU KNOW, HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH FOLKS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
UM, SO I DON'T KNOW WHY, AND IT'S NOT EVEN LIKE THE GLORY THING.
LIKE, WE GET, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WHEN PUBLIX'S WORK, PUBLIC WORKS DOES THINGS IN THAT AREA, YOU KNOW, WE SOMETIMES GET THE BENEFIT.
I JUST WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR THE PEOPLE THAT ACTUALLY LIVE THERE.
SO I JUST WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THERE.
CAN YOU UPDATE, I ADD A LITTLE SOMETHING TO THAT.
UM, UH, COMMISSIONER, BASICALLY WHAT WOULD THE ORIGINAL, UM, AGENDA WAS SET ASIDE FOR, UH, THE BOARD TO CON UH, HAVE A DISCUSSION ON MM-HMM.
AND THEN THROUGHOUT THE OTHER DISCUSSION THAT TABARI HAS HAD, AND WE'VE HAD WITH THEM, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE THE, THE QUICKEST WAY TO GET SOMETHING DONE WAS TO CONVEY IT TO THE CITY.
THE CITY HAS THE RESOURCES TO GO AHEAD AND
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GET THE CONSTRUCTION STARTED, BUT UH, THEN HAVE THE ABILITY TO RENT IT THROUGH, UM, THE HEALTH FACILITIES, WHICH IS SOMETHING THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CANNOT DO.UH, BUT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WILL BE IN CHARGE OF, UH, BASICALLY MONITORING WHO DOES THE SERVICES THERE, WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH THE EXTENT OF WHAT YOU ALL COULD DO, UH, AS FAR AS, UH, THE CITY TAKING OWNERSHIP AND ALL THAT.
UM, IT'S, IT'S BASICALLY SAYING WHAT'S THE QUICKEST WAY TO GO AHEAD AND BREAK GROUND AND GET EVERYTHING STARTED.
BUT BEYOND THAT, UH, THE CITY'S GONNA HAVE SOMEONE ELSE DOING THE, DOING THE LEGWORK.
AND YOU ALL HAVE ANY RESPONSIBILITY OF BASICALLY MONITORING WHO, WHO BRINGS THE PRO, UH, PROGRAMS AND SUCH, UH, INTO THE, UM, INTO THE CENTER OR THE, THE REC CENTER OR THE HEALTH CENTER.
BUT DON'T WE HAVE THE RESOURCES NOW, CUZ YOU'RE ASKING US TO BACK CONVEY THEM BACK TO THE CITY.
SO WHAT'S THE ISSUE WITH US GOING AHEAD AND USING THOSE MONIES AND MONIES AND GETTING STARTED AS QUICKLY AS YOU ALL COULD? WHEN YOU SAY YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES, DOUG, THE CITY HAS GIVEN YOU ALL OF THE FUNDS FOR THAT, IF YOU WANT TO DO THE LEG WORK OR WHATEVER TO, UH, GET CONTRACTORS AND ALL SUCH, I MEAN, THAT, THAT IS UP TO, SO THE LEGWORK NOT THE DOLLARS IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
THE CITY IS IN A BETTER POSITION TO DO THE LEGWORK TO GET WHAT, WHAT WE DISCUSSED THE TYPE OF CONTRACTORS.
ALL THE CONTRACTORS DO ALL THAT STUFF.
YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES AND OUR OR THE YEAH.
IF YOU HAVE THE RESOURCES AND OUR VOLUNTEER BOARD DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A FAST WAY TO DO THAT.
AND I THINK MAYBE TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S UNDERSTANDING IS THAT EVERYBODY ON THE PERMISSION IS SAYING THEY HAVE NOT BEEN PRIVY TO ANY DISCUSSIONS.
AND SO TO, TO VOTE ON THIS WITHOUT ALL THE INFORMATION IS, IS, UM, LIKE I SAID, THAT EVERYBODY HAVE NOT BEEN PRIVY TO THEIR INFORMATION AND SOME PEOPLE ARE JUST HEARING ABOUT IT THIS EVENING.
AND SO, LIKE I SAID, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION SO YOU KNOW, WHEN AND IF THERE COMES A VOTE THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO DO THAT IN, YOU KNOW, INTELLIGENTLY.
SO CAN SHE, SOMEBODY ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS? MARVIN, IF WE WERE TO FOLLOW THROUGH AND, AND CONVEY TO THE CITY AND GIVE THEM THE $350,000 BACK AND SO FORTH, WHAT HAPPENS IF THE, IF THERE'S COST OVERRUNS, WHO HAS TO PAY THAT? IF THERE'S COST OVERRUNS? TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THE, THE, THE, UH, PROCESS HAS ALREADY BEEN IN PLACE.
WE'RE JUST GONNA BE IN, UH, CARRYING THROUGH WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN, UM MM-HMM.
UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, IF IT'S CONVEYED BACK TO THE CITY, THE CITY'S GOING TO BILL WHAT YOU ALL HAVE PREVIOUSLY PROPOSED AND, AND, AND HANDLE ALL THOSE.
AND ADDITIONALLY, UH, MR. VICE CHAIR, THERE MAY BE OPPORTUNITIES WITH THE PARTNERSHIPS THAT MR. WALLACE IS FORMING FOR OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDS.
SO IF THERE NEED TO BE ADDITIONAL UPFITS OR CUSTOMIZATIONS TO THE, THE DRAWINGS OR THE SKETCHES THAT THE HOUSING WORK GROUP HAS PRODUCED, THERE MAY BE PARTNERS TO ASSIST, ASSIST IN OFFSETTING THOSE COSTS.
I MEAN, THESE ARE ALL PART OF THE UNKNOWNS THAT ARE FLOATING AROUND OUT THERE.
AND THIS WAS, THIS WAS LITERALLY ON THE, ON FOR DISCUSSION.
I MEAN, IF THE BOYS CHOOSES TO MOVE FORWARD, THAT'S, THAT'S, UH, OBVIOUSLY YOUR CHOICE.
BUT IF, IF THIS IS THE TIME FOR DISCUSSION AND, UH, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER, UH, WALLACE IS NOT HERE, OBVIOUSLY ANSWER SOME OF THE MORE DETAILED QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL MAY HAVE ABOUT THE PROCESS THAT HE'S GONE THROUGH.
BUT ALL OF THESE WERE DISCUSSED AS OPTIONS DURING OUR THREE BY THREES THAT WE HAD.
UH, AND, AND AFTER HE HAD REVIEWED THE OPTIONS THAT WERE PRESENTED TO HIM, BASED OFF OF HIS KNOWLEDGE OF THE WHOLE PROCESS THAT HE'S BEEN THROUGH, THIS WAS HIS SUGGESTION.
SO, UH, WE'RE NOT PUSHING FOR A VOTE UNLESS THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO DO.
THIS, THIS IS DEFINITELY A DISCUSSION SINCE IT'S, I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I KNOW WE'RE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW WE WANT THIS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
SO IS THERE ANY BENEFIT TO DISCUSSING, WELL, WITHOUT COMMISSIONER WALLACE, I KNOW SOME THINGS ARE HARD, BUT IS THERE ANY BENEFIT TO DISCUSSING WHAT WE THINK IT LOOKS LIKE IF WE KEEP IT? UM, CUZ I MEAN THAT THE DISCUSSION HAS TO BE HAD.
SO IF WE KICK THIS ALL TO THE JUNE MEETING AND THEN WE DON'T COME TO A CONSENSUS AND WE DON'T HAVE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T HAD THE DISCUSSION, THEN, THEN WE KICK IT TO JULY AND WE JUST KEEP DOING THAT.
SO I THINK THAT WE EITHER NEED TO HAVE ANOTHER SPECIAL MEETING OR SOMETHING AND JUST HAVE A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS AND FIGURE IT OUT.
UM, OR IS THERE ANYTHING THAT MAKES SENSE TO TALK ABOUT HERE? YES, SIR.
UH, ONE OF, ONE OF MY QUESTIONS IS IT ALWAYS HAS BEEN, IT SEEMS LIKE WHY
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ARE WE WORKING OURSELVES TO THE BONE INSTEAD OF MORE SO GIVING, GIVING A CONTRACTOR A LOOK AT THE LAND, A LOOK AT WHAT WE WANT, WHAT WE DESIRE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE, THE SPACE, AND ALLOWING THEM TO COME IN AND ALLOWING THEM TO PRESENT A PLAN TO US RATHER THAN US TRYING TO BUILD THE CART, BUILD THE HORSE.AND JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE EVERYTHING CROSS I DOTTED AND EVERYTHING ELSE RATHER THAN US ALLOWING A CONTRACTOR TO COME IN, DO THEIR HOMEWORK AND DO THEIR JOB AND THEY PRESENT IT TO US.
AND THEN WE MAKE A DECISION ON WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO ACCEPT, WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE AND HAVE THEM BID ON IT RATHER THAN US WORKING OURSELVES TO THE BONE AND STILL NOT BEING ABLE TO AGREE WHEN WE ARE NOT THE PROFESSIONALS, BUT WE KNOW WHAT WE WANT.
AND THE WAY TO KEEP THAT AS CLOSE TO APPLES, TO APPLES AS YOU CAN GET IS, IS TO PRESENT SPECIFICATIONS AND PLANS.
WELL THAT'S IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER AND YOU CAN GET TWO OR THREE PROPOSALS SUBMITTED TO YOU, BUT THEY'RE REALLY NOT APPLES AND APPLES.
AND SO THAT REALLY TURNS IT INTO A, UH, A VERY, UH, TIME CONSUMING PROCESS IN ORDER TO GET TO THE RIGHT PROPOSAL.
MORE TIME CONSUMING THAN WHAT WE'RE ALREADY CONSUMING TIME DOING.
IF, IF, IF, IF WE'RE, UH, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UH, YEAH, I MEAN YOU, I I DO UNDERSTAND.
I'M, I WAS JUST ASKING A QUESTION.
I MEAN, THE REALITY IS THAT THE PROPOSAL TO TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
I'M I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT, AND, AND I THINK IT, IT, IT DOES, BUT I THINK THERE'S ALSO SOME, THERE'S SOME PROCEDURES AND PROTOCOLS AND, AND WHAT HAPPENS IF, AND THOSE THINGS LIKE THAT, THAT NEED TO BE KNOWN BEFORE THEY, UH, YOU MAKE A FINAL VOTE ON IT.
I HEARD ABOUT IT, UH, AS A FIRM PROPOSAL AND, UM, THERE, THERE ARE JUST SOME THINGS TO WORK OUT, BUT LITERALLY IT MAKES, MAKES A LOT OF SENSE.
AND, AND I CAN PROMISE YOU THAT THE, PROBABLY THAT PROCESS, UH, THAT I'VE PREVIOUSLY DESCRIBED WILL BE WHAT THE CITY DOES.
THEY WILL, THEY WILL DEAL WITH THE SPECIFICATIONS FOR PEOPLE TO RESPOND TO RATHER THAN US RESPONDING TO A WHOLE VARIETY OF VANS AND BUTS THAT YOU GET IN PROPOSALS FROM INDEPENDENT CONTRACTORS.
I'M CHAIR ANOTHER THING, JUST LEMME JUST SAY THIS RIGHT QUICK.
THE OTHER THING THAT WE, WE AS THE BOARD HAVE TO UNDERSTAND IS THAT IF WE HAVE A PARTNERSHIP THAT CAN HELP US MOVE PROJECTS FASTER, CERTAIN THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T NEED TO KEEP TRYING TO BEAT OURSELVES IN THE HEAD TO DO CERTAIN THINGS WHEN THE CITY HAS A, A IDEA THAT HEY, THIS WILL WORK FOR US AND WE ARE NOT LOSING CONTROL, BUT THEY'RE JUST HELPING US GET AHEAD.
SO ANYTIME WE GOT PARTNERSHIPS ON, CAUSE WE GOTTA REMEMBER, YOU KNOW, WE DEVELOPMENT BOARD IS THE ONES WITH THE DREAMS AND THE IDEAS AND THEN WE PRESENT THE PEOPLE TO HELP US DO IT.
WE, WE ARE NOT THE ONES THAT CAN PULL OUT THE SHELVES.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE PLEASANT HILL PROJECT, THE CITY DID THAT AND THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING WITH THE HELPING AND WITNESS CENTER.
SO THE MOTION IS TAKEN OFF TAPE.
FOR THE DISCUSSION AS COMMISSIONER QUESTION MM-HMM.
SO WOULD THE MOST APPROPRIATE PATH FORWARD BE FOR THIS BOARD TO DESIGNATE LESS THAN A FORM OF REPRESENTATION TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH THE CITY? BECAUSE I'M SURE THE CITY'S GOT CERTAIN PROCEDURES THAT THEY'RE GONNA NEED TO TAKE BEFORE THEY COULD JUST TAKE ON A PROJECT LIKE THAT.
BE IT THE BOARD OF AUMAN APPRO.
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GROUP FROM THIS GROUP OR WHATEVER AD HOC COMMITTEE FROM THIS GROUP AND AD HOC COMMITTEE FROM THE CITY SIDE OF THINGS, WORK OUT WHAT THOSE DETAILS ARE AND THEN HAVE THAT BE SOMETHING TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD FOR OUR NEXT MEETING TO BE ABLE TO VOTE ON.CAUSE I DON'T, I DON'T THINK IF WE WERE TO SO CHOOSE RIGHT NOW TO GO FORWARD, THERE ARE TOO MANY VARIABLES WE COULDN'T GIVE CITY STAFF GUIDE US ON HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO I THINK COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, YOUR INCLINATION IS TO ASK, UM, COMMISSIONER WALLACE AND PERHAPS THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS WORK GROUP YES.
TO SIT DOWN WITH APPROPRIATE CITY STAFF TO IRON OUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL RAISED TONIGHT.
IF THAT'S THE, THE MOST APPROPRIATE GROUP.
I DON'T KNOW THE CHAIR, ANYONE ELSE NEEDS TO BE INVOLVED, BUT THAT, THAT'S JUST WHERE MY HEAD GOES TO WORK OUT SOME OF THE QUESTIONS.
CAUSE THIS FULL BOARD AND THE FULL BOARD ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO COME TO THE SAME UNDERSTANDING FORMALLY WHO, UM, COMMISSIONER BRYANT.
WHO ELSE IS ON HELP AND WELLNESS? YOU, YOU OR YOU YOU HAVE WELLNESS TOO.
I SAW MY NAME ON SO
YEAH, I SAW, I THINK I AM INFORMALLY AS OF THE LAST TIME I SPOKE WITH MR. WALLACE, BUT I DON'T YOU STILL THERE? I THOUGHT YOU WERE NEIGHBORHOOD.
YOU DON'T FIND OUT OH YOU, THIS NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S, THERE WAS AN ARGUMENT AND I MIGHT BE ON BOTH, BUT NO, I DON'T, I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING YET.
BUT THERE WAS A, WE WENT THROUGH THE BID PROCESS AND I WON
NO, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY I DON'T, WE, I THINK WE HISTORICALLY AND CERTAINLY RECENTLY HAD COMMUNICATION ISSUES AS A BOARD AND I DON'T, UM, I DON'T LOVE THE IDEA OF JUST A COUPLE OF PEOPLE HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS CUZ I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I'M AN INQUISITIVE PERSON BY NATURE, SO I DON'T, AND IT'S NOT EVEN A CONTROL THING.
I THINK, WELL, YOU DOING THE RIGHT THING.
I THINK IT PROBABLY MAKES MOST SENSE FOR THE CITY TO RUN IT TOO.
I JUST IMMEDIATELY LIKE MY HEAD EXPLODED.
AND I JUST THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF THINGS TO FIGURE OUT AND I DON'T, AND MAYBE WE DON'T GO THROUGH EVERYTHING HERE, BUT IT, IF THEY HAVE SMALL GROUPS, I'M STILL GONNA HAVE ALL THE SAME QUESTIONS AT THE NEXT MEETING AND WE MIGHT NOT BE READY TO VOTE AGAIN.
SO I'M JUST TRYING TO THINK A SMALL GROUP.
WELL WHAT, WHAT, WHAT ABOUT INDIVIDUALS? UM, AS OPPOSED TO JUST THE, WELL, SO DOES NOBODY ELSE LIKE, CARE ABOUT THE COMMUNICATION ISSUES AND WANT CARE THAT WE ALL BE INFORMED AS A BOARD AND WE ALL UNDERSTAND ALL THE DISCUSSIONS INSTEAD OF SIDE DISCUSSIONS AND CAUSE MY THREE BY THREE DID NOT HAVE THIS PROPOSAL DISCUSSED AT IT.
I'M JUST, WHY DON'T WE, UM, IT, IT MAY BE THE, IT IT MAY BE, UH, BETTER JUST TO HAVE A, UM, HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS.
LET THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS AGAIN MEET HEALTH AND WELLNESS COMMITTEE AGAIN, UH, MEET THAT TIME.
AND IN BETWEEN THAT TIME YOU WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO MEET WITH CITY STAFF, TALK, UH, AND TALK WITH THE, UH, ATTORNEY.
AND THEN IT WOULD ALSO GIVE THE OTHER MEMBERS OPPORTUNITY TO TALK WITH COMMISSIONER WALLACE ABOUT HIS THINKING AND WANTING TO DO THIS.
BUT IT WILL BE, IT'S IT THEN IT WILL BE YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO FOLLOW UP TO HAVE THAT MEETING AND THEN TO FOLLOW UP WITH COMMISSIONER WALLACE TO ASK ALL THE QUESTIONS OR THE REASONING WHY THE, UH, THE THINKING AND YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN CALL ONE ANOTHER BUT YOU KNOW, WITHOUT A QUORUM BEING, BEING PRESENT.
WELL, YOU KNOW, ONE OF, ONE OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT, THAT WAS MADE IN THESE THREE AND THREES WERE MORE OF A PROJECT APPROACH.
AND I MEAN YOU'RE, THAT THE PROJECT, THIS PROJECT REQUIRE A LOT OF DIFFERENT DISCIPLINES MM-HMM.
YOU WOULD NEED AN ARCHITECT ON THAT COMMITTEE THAT TALKS WITH THE CITY CUZ IN THE DESIGNING OF THE SPECIFICATIONS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND VERY FAMILIAR WITH THE BIDDING PROCESS, THE PUBLIC BIDDING PROCESSES, CUZ HE DOES IT ALL THE TIME.
COMMISSIONER WALLACE, UH, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR AND COMMISSIONER HAM WOULD BE A, A GROUP THAT ARE INTERESTED IN THOSE THINGS, HAVE DIVERSE EXPERTISE TO, TO UH, ADD INTO THE CONVERSATIONS THAT NEED TO BE HAD.
AND RATHER THAN JUST TURN THIS OVER TO HEALTH AND WELLNESS, HAVE THEM REPRESENTED OBVIOUSLY.
BUT TO PULL THE WHOLE PROJECT TOGETHER REQUIRES MULTIDISCIPLINARY YES.
AND SO I WOULD, I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND THAT, THAT WE CONSIDER CREATING AN AD HOC COMMITTED TO MEET WITH THE CITY ON THIS TOPIC.
UH, WITH THE PEOPLE THAT I JUST MENTIONED MEETING AND THAT STILL WILLING BE CAN I MEET, MEETING, BE NEXT
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WEEK? BUT THAT'S A QUESTION.I I CAN LOOK IN MAKE, SEE IF, UH, PLEASE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU ALL WANT THIS? YES.
IF YOU GIMME THE, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, IF YOU ALL GIMME ME, THE NAMES OF WHOEVER WANTS TO BEAT OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
AND CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, I THINK THAT WHAT MS. PROCTOR'S SAYING IS THAT WE'RE STILL TALKING ABOUT A VERY FEW BEING YES.
PRIVY TO WHAT'S GOING ON AND EVERYBODY NOT BEING INVITED.
OF COURSE IT'S GONNA BE A QUORUM IF EVERYBODY'S INVITED.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS KNOWLEDGE THAT THE ENTIRE BOARD SHOULD KNOW ABOUT EACH GROUP, EACH WORK GROUP SHOULD KNOW ABOUT IT.
AND IT'S ABOUT HAVING AN UNDERSTANDING.
AM I CORRECT IN WHAT I'M THINKING NOW? IS THAT EVERYBODY SHOULD BE PRIVY TO THE SAME INFORMATION AT THE SAME TIME AND HAVE QUESTIONS THAT CAN COME UP SO THAT WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE RATHER THAN GETTING IN SESSIONS LIKE THESE AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK AND HAVE TO CATCH EVERYBODY UP.
SO THAT GOES RIGHT BACK TO HAVING A, HAVING A SPECIAL MEETING.
WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS TONIGHT.
IT GOES RIGHT BACK TO HAVING A, A SPECIAL MEETING.
CAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN GET EVERYBODY TOGETHER AND EVERYBODY ON THE
A ATTORNEY BOLEY, YOU'LL LOOK, I'M JUST, I'M JUST LISTEN, LISTENING TO THE DIAL.
WELL, AND I, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S NOTHING LIKE THE PUBLIC CAN'T HEAR ABOUT THE DISCUSSION.
SO THIS IS NOT LIKE A, WE'RE TALKING THE PRICE OF PROPERTY.
SO IF, YOU KNOW, IF WE END UP FUMBLING AROUND FOR 45 MINUTES AND THE PUBLIC, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO LISTEN TO IT, HAVE AT IT, YOU KNOW, SO I MEAN, I JUST THINK IT'S, I JUST THINK IT'S MAKES MORE SENSE.
AND IF, YOU KNOW, IF FOLKS DON'T WANT TO COME, THEN WE JUST NEED A QUORUM.
SO THE CONSENSUS OF THE GROUP IS, I KNOW SOME SAID AD HOC, SOME SAID HEALTH AND WELLNESS MEET.
SO DO WE WANT TO HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING, MR. MORGAN? IF YOU WANNA FORWARD, YOU HAVE TO.
TWO WEEKS? WELL WE, OR NEXT WEEK.
WELL YOU'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER SET OF SCHEDULES TO COORDINATE SOME.
AGAIN, WELL, I'LL SAY WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
WELL, LET ME PUT IT LIKE THIS.
LET'S SAY THAT AS EARLY AS WE CAN GET A SPECIAL MEETING.
WHAT ABOUT THAT? IS IT TWO DAYS NOTICE? IS THAT RIGHT? 48 HOURS NOW.
SO MADAM CHAIR, JUST TO BE CLEAR MM-HMM.
AND THAT THOSE DATES WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO YOU ALL TO SELECT A DATE FOR A SPECIAL MEETING.
I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU TALKED TO COMMISSIONER WALLACE MEETING WITH THE CITY FIRST.
I THOUGHT LIKE AS SOON AS WE CAN MEET WITH THE CITY, CUZ I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE DETAILS ON HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
SO IF WE CAN TRY TO GET A MEETING WITH THE CITY IN THE NEXT WEEK AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION FOR OUR SPECIAL MEETING.
I, BEFORE WE GET MEETING THE SHE NEEDS, WE NEED TO, UH, SHE NEEDS TO, UH, COMMISSIONER BRYANT WOULD NEED TO TALK TO COMMISSIONER WALLACE SO IT COULD WORK, WORK THAT, THAT OUT.
I THINK WE NEED BOTH, TO BE HONEST.
I THINK WE NEED A PROJECT, UM, GROUP, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH THE CITY AND I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA CHECK THE SCHEDULE, NO PROMISES.
BUT IN THE NEXT WEEK FOR WHOEVER WANTS TO BE PART OF THAT PROJECT, HOPEFULLY LESS THAN A QUORUM MM-HMM.
AND THEN AFTER THAT, A SPECIAL MEETING.
AS SOON AS WE CAN GET IT, OUR SCHEDULES ALLOWED.
SO MY MY UNDERSTANDING IS YOU ALL ARE GONNA GIVE ME THE NAMES OF THE FOUR WHO ARE GONNA BE ON THE PROJECT THAT WILL MEET WITH THE CITY WITHIN THE NEXT WEEK OR SO, THAT I'LL COORDINATE THAT.
AND THEN, UM, PRECEDING THAT, WITHIN THE NEXT TWO TO THREE WEEKS, WE'LL HAVE A SPECIAL MEETING.
WHO'S IS THAT? IS THAT EVERYBODY'S UNDERSTANDING? YEAH, THAT'S FINE.
WHO'S GONNA PROVIDE THE, THE NAMES OF THE PROJECT? TAMARA WALLACE.
WAIT, WHEN YOU JUST GAVE SOME NAMES.
BETH, MYSELF, PROCTOR AND
I MEAN THE NAMES CAME UP A FEW MINUTES AGO.
RIGHT? AM I RIGHT? GET NOW IF I'M WRONG, DOES ANYBODY ELSE NEED LIKE ONE OR NEEDS TOO? YEAH.
NO, I'M JUST ASKING CUZ IT, I MEAN, SOMEBODY INTERESTED.
IF SOMEBODY'S REALLY INTERESTED THEN MAYBE SWAP OUT CHECK WITH COMMISSIONER WALLACE IF YOU WOULD FOR NOW THAT SETS WELL PLEASE CHECK WITH HIM SURE.
AND LET HIM KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENED AT THE MEETING.
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THEN, AND PLEASE MAKE SURE THAT HE CONTACTS EITHER MR. WILLIAMS HERE OR ME SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE DESCRIPTION.I'M GONNA TELL HIM HE HAS TO TAKE 45 MINUTES AND LISTEN TO IT.
WELL, AND THE COMMITTEE WANTS TO TELL HIM THAT.
THANK YOU ALL AGAIN SO MUCH FOR OUR ROBUST DISCUSS.
JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING, PLEASE.
IF, IF I MAY, MY, MY FRIEND CARE, I CAN SEE IT.
I KNOW YOU PLEASE SHARE WITH US WHAT'S ON YOUR MIND.
OH, NO, I, WHAT'S ON MY MIND IS THAT, YOU KNOW, I THINK I HAVE A FEELING THAT YOU, I I WOULD TRUST THAT GROUP OF FOUR TO GO GET THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED AND COME BACK TO US RATHER THAN HAVE IT ALL HASHED OUT AS A GROUP.
AND, AND THAT'S JUST THE WAY I NOPE, THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD BE.
THAT'S WHY THAT NORMALLY WORK.
THAT'S THE WAY IT SHOULD, SHOULD BE.
BUT THEY WOULD COME BACK AND PRESENT A FULL REPORT OF THEIR MEETING WITH THE CITY AND WHAT THE, WHAT ISSUES THEY RESOLVED AND WHAT ISSUES MIGHT STILL BE OUT THERE.
AND THAT, UH, THAT'S JUST MM-HMM.
RATHER THAN, I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING, I WASN'T PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT I WANTED TO FIND OUT WHAT YOU WERE THINKING.
UH, MOVING TO OUR NEXT, UM, WORKING GROUP REPORT.
HOUSING, HOUSING COMMISSIONER WALKER.
I'M GONNA DO THIS BECAUSE, UM, COMMISSIONER PARAGO WAS NOT AT OUR HOUSING WORK GROUP MEETING AND HE USUALLY DOES A GREAT JOB OF, UM, SHARING WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
UM, AND IT LOOKS LIKE A LOT OF INFORMATION, BUT BASICALLY THERE'S TWO PROJECTS THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF OUR TIME TALKING ABOUT AND THAT WAS THE NINE 11 UBANKS HOUSE AND THEN ALSO THE JONES STREET PROPERTIES, WHICH IS REALLY KIND OF JONES STREET, WALT BELLAMY.
UM, SO LET'S, LET'S LOOK FIRST OF ALL AT ITEM NUMBER TWO, I THINK EVERYBODY HAS A COPY OF OUR MEETING NOTES FROM THAT MM-HMM.
AND KIP DID SOME LEAD LEGWORK.
THE APPRAISAL, UM, BY JORDAN DEESE WOULD COST $1,200 AND THE INSPECTION COULD BE DONE THIS FRIDAY.
I SPOKE WITH HER ON THE PHONE, UM, AND TOLD HER IT WAS UP TO THE, THE BOARD TO MAKE THAT DECISION.
AND I HEARD, UM, MR. PARSONS IN HERE GIVING HIS PRESENTATION SAYING THEY WERE HIRING AN APPRAISER TO DO THEIR PROPERTY.
SO IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS HIRE AN APPRAISER.
CUZ OTHERWISE I DON'T KNOW HOW WE DETERMINE THE VALUE OF THAT PROPERTY MM-HMM.
UM, THE NEXT THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE POTENTIAL SALE OPPORTUNITIES OF THAT, THAT, UM, BUILDING OR THAT HOUSE.
AND I WILL SAY WHEN I WALKED IN THE DOOR, I GAVE ZOW THE KEYS TO THE HOUSE
SO THE HOUSE LOOKS GREAT, THE PROPERTY LOOKS GOOD.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY WE LEFT THE PLYWOOD OVER THE WINDOWS AND THE DOOR FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY REASONS.
SO IF WE WANT TO GO LOOK AT IT AS A BOARD, OR IF ANYONE WANTS TO GO LOOK, WE'LL NEED TO TAKE A, UM, A DRILL AND, UH, IT'S GOT POWER.
BUT THAT'S ANOTHER THING ON OUR AGENDA.
SO WHAT WE NEED, HONESTLY, WITHOUT GOING INTO ALL THE DETAILS, IS WE NEED SOME INTERACTION WITH STAFF TO MAKE SOME THINGS HAPPEN THERE AT NINE 11.
UM, WE NEED TO HAVE POWER UTILITIES MM-HMM.
WE NEED TO HAVE A PLAN IN PLACE, UM, TO PAY FOR THE UTILITIES AND, UH, LANDSCAPE MAINTENANCE AND INSURANCE UNTIL THE PROPERTY SELLS.
BUT CIRCLING BACK TO THE BEGINNING, WE NEED TO, UM, WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE THE COST OF AN APPRAISER AND HAVE, UM, HAVE THE PROPERTY APPRAISED SO WE KNOW WHAT VALUE WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO I'LL GO BACK TO THAT ONE FIRST.
SO YOU'RE GONNA MAKE THAT MOTION? YES.
I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THE COMMISSION, UM, APPROVE THE APPRAISAL COST OF $1,200 AND THAT WE CAN HIRE AN APPRAISAL AND SHE, SHE WOULD HAVE THE APPRAISAL BACK TO US NEXT WEEK.
ANY, UH, DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT.
MOTION, UH, PASSES TO, UH, PAY APPRAISAL $1,200 FOR NINE 11 UBANK STREET.
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IF, UM, AT LEAST FOUR COMMISSIONERS CAN GO BY THERE, IF SO, YOU CAN GET WITH, UH, MS, UH, WALKER AND GO BY THERE.IF YOU WANNA TAKE A LOOK AT THE, UM, PROPERTY CAUSE THE BOARDS ARE UP.
UM, AND Z WE CAN MAKE A PLAN FOR THAT.
YOU MIGHT GIMME BACK THE KEYS IF YOU'RE NOT AVAILABLE ON FRIDAY MORNING TO DO THAT.
WE'LL, BUT WE CAN GO TOGETHER TO GO THERE.
UM, THE NEXT THING WAS HOW ARE WE GOING TO SELL THIS PROPERTY? AND WE HAVE A MEMORANDUM THAT WAS GIVEN OUT TO US TONIGHT THAT EXPLAINS HOW THE PROPERTY HAS TO BE USED.
AND I DON'T THINK THAT WAS, UM, A SURPRISE TO ANYBODY, UM, OTHER THAN IT CAN BE DONATED TO A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION OR IT COULD BE DONATED TO THE NEW BERN HOUSING AUTHORITY.
THAT WAS INTERESTING IN THIS MEMORANDUM THAT WE JUST HAD PASSED DOWN.
WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT WHEN WE WERE HAVING OUR WORK GROUP MEETING.
SO WE WERE LOOKING AT HOW WOULD WE PARTNER WITH, UM, LIKE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR HABITAT TO PROVIDE HOUSING, YOU KNOW MM-HMM.
AND SO OUR RECOMMENDATION WAS TO DISCUSS IT TONIGHT HERE WITH THE COMMISSION AND STAFF OF HOW THE, THE PROP, THE APPROPRIATE WAY TO SELL THAT PROPERTY.
IS, IS IT PRECLUDED THAT WE CAN'T SELL IT TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR TO HABITAT? IT HAS TO BE DONATED.
NO ATTORNEY SAID NO COULD SELL IT TO THEM.
YOU CAN SELL THE HOUSE TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR ANY NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION.
NOW WHETHER WHAT RESTRICTIONS WILL APPLY, UM, THAT'S, THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT QUESTION.
AND WE KNOW WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE THAT HAS TO BE TO BE, BE UTILIZED IN HOME OWNERSHIP OR IN RENTAL TO A LOWER MODERATE INCOME FAMILY.
THE QUESTION IS, ANY PROCEEDS THAT ARE, AS A RESULT OF THAT SALE, THERE ARE CB BG REQUIREMENTS ABOUT HOW THOSE PROCEEDS HAVE TO BE HANDLED.
ANY THOUGHTS FROM COMMISSIONER MORGAN? DO, DO WE KNOW WHAT THAT THE, HOW, HOW THOSE COMMISSIONER BRYANT? NO.
COMMISSIONER PROCTOR? NOT AT THIS TIME.
DO WE KNOW WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE ON THOSE PROCEEDS? IF WE SELL IT? WHAT IF WE SELL IT TO AN INDEPENDENT PERSON? IS THAT DIFFERENT THAN IF WE SELL IT TO A NONPROFIT? SO IN, I THINK THE MEMORANDUM THAT, UM, MS. COMMISSIONER WALKER JUST REFERENCED OUTLINES A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS.
UM, THE FIRST OF WHICH IS NINE 11 UBANK STREET CAN BE SOLD.
AND THEN, UM, MR. SEABERG, WHO IS THE COMMUNITY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MANAGER, GOES ON TO OUTLINE, UM, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF THE, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING AND I THINK MS. FUL IS HERE, SO I DON'T WANNA PUT WORDS IN HER MOUTH.
AND I THINK THE ASSISTANT MANAGER, UM, WAS INVOLVED IN SOME OF THESE MEETINGS ALSO.
BUT IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD, LET'S JUST SAY TO JOHN DOE MM-HMM.
BUT LET'S JUST ASSUME THAT JOHN DOE IS A LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUAL.
THE SALES PROCEEDS WILL HAVE TO REIMBURSE CD BG.
SO IF THE, I THINK CDBG ALLOCATED $232,000 THEREABOUTS FOR THIS PROJECT, IF THE SALE PRICE IS 223 230 $2,000, THAT MONEY GOES BACK INTO CDBG.
IF THE SALE PRICE IS LESS THAN THE CDBG ALLOCATION, THEN WHAT THE PROCEEDS ARE GO BACK TO CDBG AND THEN WE HAVE TO DO SOME PAPERWORK ON THE BACK END.
WELL WE DON'T HAVE TO MAKE UP THE DIFFERENCE THOUGH, MR. MANAGER, DO YOU REMEMBER THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION? THE DIFFERENCE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN IS THE DIFFERENCE WOULD BE A LIEN AGAINST THE HOUSE FOR THAT DIFFERENCE FOR A 20 YEAR PERIOD.
SO, SO THAT'S HOW THAT WOULD WORK.
MEANING YOU IF, IF IT'S SOLD THE MONEY THAT WAS PLACED IN THERE WILL HAVE TO BE REPLACED WITH THE CD DG OR PLACED IN A LIEN FOR 20 YEARS.
AND THAT'S NOT A LIEN THAT NECESSARILY HAS TO BE REPAID, I DON'T THINK JUST THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PERSON HAS TO RESIDE IN THE PROPERTY FOR THAT DURATION.
SO BY ANALOGY, IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD TO A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION,
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ASSUMING THEIR MISSION IS FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS, WHETHER THAT'S HOME OWNERSHIP OR RENTAL, SAME PROCESS, THE MONEY HAS TO GO BACK TO REIMBURSE C B B G AND DEPENDING ON THE PURCHASE PRICE THAT MAY TRIGGER OTHER REQUIREMENTS.UH, MR. STRICKLER, SO TO RECAP, WE HAVE TWO WAYS THAT WE DISPOSE OF PROPERTY UPSET BID PROCESS OR WITH A NON-PROPERTY WITH CONDITIONS ATTACHED.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE CHART THAT I PROVIDED, THERE ARE A NUMBER INDICATED THERE, BUT TWO OF THOSE OPTIONS ARE UPSET BID PROCESS, WHICH IS THE MOST POPULAR, AND TO SELL THE PROPERTY OR DONATE THE PROPERTY TO A ENTITY CARRYING OUT A PUBLIC PURPOSE.
SO THAT'S ULTIMATELY IN, IN MY MIND, THE, THE PATH WE GOTTA DECIDE WHEN WE WANT TO GO DOWN.
CAUSE IF WE'RE GOING DOWN THAT UPSET BID PROCESS, OBVIOUSLY WE KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE FROM THE OTHER PROPERTIES WE SOLD AND HOW LITTLE WE MAY WIND UP RECEIVING AS A RESULT OF IT.
WE CAN ATTACH A PERCENTAGE TO IT.
THAT'S WHY WE WOULD GET IT APPRAISED.
AND THAT WOULD BE, I MEAN, CUZ RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY IS WHAT, $8,000? THAT'S WHAT THE COUNTY SHOW UP FOR.
RIGHT? THAT'S NOT, BUT WE WOULD GET IT APPRAISED AND THEN KNOW WHAT THE PROPERTY OF THE HOUSE IS.
WE HAVE, AGAIN, JAMIE, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WHICH OFF I AM, BUT WE CAN SET THE PRICE ON THIS HOUSE FOR SALE.
YOU CAN, YOU CAN ESTABLISH A MINIMUM BID THAT WOULD BE ACCEPTED FOR THIS PRO, THIS PROPERTY AND THEN IT GOES IN, APPARENTLY IT'S NOT ON YOUR SELLABLE PROPERTY LIST.
UM, SO ONCE THE PROJECT IS COMPLETE TO YOUR SATISFACTION, YOU CAN VOTE TO PUT THIS PROPERTY ON THE SELLABLE PROPERTIES LIST AND ESTABLISH A MINIMUM BID.
SO WE CAN ASK SOMEWHERE SOMETHING REASONABLE FOR IT IN OUR MINDS.
AND THEN IF SOMEBODY OFFERS US THAT, THEN IT HAS TO ENTER THE UPSET BID PROCESS WITH THAT AS THE BASE PRICE.
BUT IT'S ALSO GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THAT LOAD MODERATE MM-HMM.
WHICH MAY BE CHALLENGING TO DO IN AN UPSET BID PROCESS.
AND THE, THE PROBLEM I SEE, OR I GUESS, YOU KNOW, MY VISION AND I FELT LIKE THE VISION OF THE COMMISSION FOR THIS HOUSE WAS TO PROVIDE A, A HOUSE THAT SOMEONE COULD OWN.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT IT MIGHT BE SOLD TO SOMEBODY WHO COULD RENT TO LOAD A MODERATE INCOME.
SO IS IS ANYONE, UM, WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR IS A LIAISON FOR US, A STAFF MEMBER TO HELP US FIND, UM, PEOPLE WHO QUALIFY TO BUY A HOUSE IN THAT LOW TO MODERATE INCOME THAT, YOU KNOW, WOULD BE INTERESTED.
HOW DO WE ADVERTISE TO THEM? HOW DO WE REACH OUT TO THEM AND LET THEM KNOW A HOUSE IS AVAILABLE? A LOT IS PROBABLY GO BACK TO PARTNERING WITH EITHER THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR THE HABITAT.
CAUSE THEY WOULD HAVE RESOURCES THAT ALREADY BE IN THAT, WORKING IN THAT, THAT REALM.
UM, WE, WE'LL TAKE WHATEVER DIRECTION YOU ALL GIVE US, BUT UM, YOU, WHEN, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE UPSET BE IT AND HOW MUCH YOU'RE GONNA SET THE PRICE FOR MM-HMM.
SO IF YOU SET IT FOR WHATEVER YOU SET IT FOR, IT'S NOT GONNA, I'M PRETTY CERTAIN IT'S NOT GONNA SELL FOR WHAT'S IN IT.
AND SO WHAT YOU'RE GONNA END UP SETTING UP IS WHATEVER THAT AMOUNT IS, GOES BACK TO CDBG.
AND ALSO BEAR IN MIND THAT YOUR PURCHASING, PURCHASING PROCEDURES, WHICH REFLECT THE STATE STATUTE, REQUIRE THE PERSON WHO'S MAKING AN OFFER TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS TO MAKE A DEPOSIT, WHICH IS 5% OF 10% OF THE VALUE.
SO FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE WOULD BE ANY BARRIERS TO ENTRY WHEN IT COMES TO SATISFYING THOSE INITIAL FINANCIAL OBLIGATIONS.
WHEREAS IF YOU WERE TO PARTNER WITH A, AN ENTITY THAT ALREADY HAS AN INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE TO GET LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PEOPLE INTO SUSTAINABLE HOUSING, THEY MAY NOT HAVE, UH, THOSE SAME BARRIERS TO ENTRY MM-HMM.
BUT SEE AT HABITAT, THAT'S, WE HAVE A LIST MM-HMM.
SO AS THEY, AS WE FILL THE HOMES THAT THEY, THEY MOVE UP THE LADDER.
SO THERE IS A LIST OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN ELIGIBLE, HAVE TAKEN THE CLASSES AND
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ALL THAT STUFF.SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A POSSIBILITY.
I THINK, UM, ANTOINETTE BOSKEY SPOKE TO US A COUPLE MONTHS AGO AND THE ORGANIZATION SHE WORKS WITH HAD, LIKE, THEY PROVIDE ALL THOSE RESOURCES.
THEY MAY KNOW OF PEOPLE AS WELL OR KNOW OF, UM MM-HMM
BUT WE COULD USE AN ORGANIZATION, UM, HOUSING AUTHORITY HABITAT, WE'LL HAVE TO SELL IT TO THEM FIRST, SELL IT TO THEM OR GIVE IT TO THEM OF GIVE IT TO THEM.
AND IF WE GIVE IT TO THEM, ARE WE STILL LIABLE FOR THE ENTIRE AMOUNT OF THAT MONEY? BACK TO CDBG LIENS, MARVIN, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IF WE, UH, DONATED TO A NONPROFIT, THEN THAT TAKES US OFF THE HOOK AS LONG AS THE CONDITIONS ARE MET FOR A LOW MINIMUM, UH, MIDDLE INCOME.
IF WE GIVE IT TO THE NONPROFIT, DOES IT PUT THE CONDITIONS ON THE NONPROFIT TO MEET THOSE? I MEAN THE YES.
IT PUTS A 20 YEAR HOUSING NEED RESTRICTIONS, SO IT MAKES IT THEIR RESPONSIBILITY.
I MEAN, RDC WOULD BE OFF FOR THAT.
CAN JUST, CAN I ASK YOU JUST TO MAKE SURE, SO THE ONLY WAY WE CAN AS A BOARD GET RID OF PROPERTY WE OR SELL A PROPERTY WE OWN TO AN INDIVIDUAL IS THROUGH THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
IS THAT CORRECT? I WILL REDIRECT YOU ALL TO MY CHART THAT I PROVIDED TO YOU.
THE MOST COMMON WAY THAT LOCAL GOVERNMENTS OR SUBSETS OF LOCAL GOVERNMENTS SELL PROPERTY IS BY THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
THERE ARE STATUTORY PROVISIONS FOR AUCTIONS.
SO SOMETIMES YOU SEE AT THE COUNTY COURTHOUSE, IF THERE'S SOMEBODY OUT ON THE STEPS TOLERANT ABOUT PROPERTY, YOU COULD DO THAT PROCESS ALSO.
HOWEVER, THE MOST COMMON COMMONLY USED PROCESS IS THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
BUT ALL OF THE PROCESSES ARE INDICATED ON THE CHART THAT I PROVIDED YOU.
SO AM I MISSING
I MEAN, WHICH JUST PUT A FAMILY IN THERE OR SOMEBODY TO LIVE.
IS THAT YOUR RECOMMENDATION OR READY TO GO? I'M SORRY, THEY, WHICH ONE YOU WORK FOR? HABITAT.
WHY GOING ON THIS? GIVE THE NAME.
SO, AND THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO REPAY THE CDBG FUNDS BECAUSE THEY'RE GONNA BE USED APPROPRIATELY.
SO WHAT IF, IF THAT'S THE COMMISSION'S INCLINATION, UM, YOU MIGHT WANT TO DIRECT STAFF TO REACH OUT TO HABITAT TO DETERMINE WHETHER THEY ARE IN FACT WILLING TO ACCEPT THE DONATION AND ARE ABLE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE CDBG REGULATIONS.
AND THEN AT THE NEXT MEETING, IF THAT, IF HABITAT IS AN AM AMENABLE PARTNER, YOU CAN HAVE A DEED BEFORE YOU, BUT YOU CAN VOTE TO SIGN TO CONVEY THE PROPERTY WITH THE APPROPRIATE RESTRICTIONS.
BECAUSE HAVE WE HAVE OUR HABITAT MEETING? UH, I THINK IT'S NEXT WEEK.
AND, AND I'M, I UNDERSTAND THIS WOULD BE SOMETHING DEFINITELY, BUT JUST GIVING AN IDEA, WE HAVE A POSSIBILITY THIS MIGHT HAPPEN.
HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT IT? AND, AND IF THE BOARD AND THE DIRECTOR DON'T FEEL GOOD ABOUT IT, WE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.
AND SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD THEN WITH THE APPRAISAL OF THE HOUSE AT THIS POINT IN TIME? AND SORRY TO BACKTRACK, BUT DO WE REMEMBER, I KNOW IN THERE PERIOD OF TIME WE HAVE TO, LIKE, WE CAN'T HOLD ONTO IT FOREVER.
I THOUGHT THERE WAS A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME WE HAD TO SELL IT, SO WE CAN'T JUST LET THIS GO FOR DISCUSS FOR A MONTH AND THEN BOTH THE NEXT MONTH.
AND I, I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY, BUT WE NEED TO LOOK THAT UP.
I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT EITHER.
I BELIEVE WE'RE ALLOWED TO OWN PROPERTY FOR AN, FOR AN UNLIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME.
BUT SHE'S PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT, I'M TALKING ABOUT GRANT RESTRICTION.
CAUSE I THOUGHT THERE WAS SOME, BUT YES, THAT'S WHAT SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
MR. WILLIAMS? I, I'M NOT FAMILIAR.
ONE, I THINK THE ONLY THING YOU'D BE LOOKING AT IS THE, UH, PART OF THE DISCUSSION, UH, REGARDING THE, UH, ELECTRIC AND THE WATER AND SEWER, UH MM-HMM.
BUT WHEN MR. PARHAM GOES TO HIS MEETING IN ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS THAT THEY'RE GONNA ASK HIM, WHAT IS
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THE HOUSE OF PRAISE FOR? BUT I MEAN, THEY, JAY HAVE A LIST, AND ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS GONNA BE HOW MUCH IS THE HOUSE WORTH? WHAT HAS IT APPRAISED FOR? YEAH.BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IF WE GIVE IT IT TO A NONPROFIT, NONPROFIT'S GONNA SELL IT FOR WHAT THEY WANT TO SELL IT FOR AM AM I RIGHT? I MEAN, THEY, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS, RIGHT? ONCE YOU GIVE IT TO A NONPROFIT AND DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO WITH IT, AS LONG AS THEY FOLLOW, YOU KNOW, AS LONG AS THEY'RE COMPLIANT WITH THE DEED RESTRICTIONS.
SO WHAT YOU MIGHT, SO IS IT GONNA BE A WASTE OF MONEY FOR US TO EVEN HAVE AN APPRAISAL DONE THEN? I THINK THAT'S BEST QUESTION.
PERHAPS WHAT YOU MIGHT DO IS DIRECT STAFF, MR. HUFF TO CALL HABITAT FOR HUMANITY FOR WITH, TO FIND OUT WHAT, IF ANY INFORMATION THEY WOULD NEED FROM YOU ALL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PARTNERSHIP ON THIS PROPERTY.
AND THEN ONCE HE HAS THAT INFORMATION, HE CAN CONVEY IT TO ALL OF YOU, AND THEN YOU CAN MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT IF YOU NEED TO ALLOCATE ANY FUNDS TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PROJECT.
IF WE NEED TO INITIAL MEETING, IT'S NEXT WEEK, BUT I'LL BE, I'LL BE IN THE HABITAT OFFICE TOMORROW MORNING.
GET, GET WITH YOU AND GET INVOLVED.
JUST, JUST PUT IT OUT THERE FORM TO SEE IF THEY EVEN INTERESTED MM-HMM.
BUT I, I JUST FOR, FOR CLARITY'S SAKE, IS THE INCLINATION OF THIS BOARD TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A DONATION TO A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION PROVIDING HOUSING TO LOW MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUALS? YOU ASKING ME? YES.
AND YOU'VE GIVEN DIRECTION THAT MR. PARMS GONNA REACH OUT TO HABITAT LONG COORDINATED MR. SEE IT, I I'M SORRY TO GO BACK TO THE APPRAISAL, BUT SHOULD BE ENGAGED THAT, OR WAIT, I THINK YOU JUST NEED TO HOLD OFF.
UH, CAN WE MOVE ON TO JONES STREET NOW? DO WE YES, WE DID.
WE VOTE ON THE, UM, APPRAISAL PRICE THOUGH? DO WE NEED TO LIKE, UNDO THAT? WE, WE, WE DID, LIKE FORMALLY DO WE NEED TO, I DON'T REMEMBER.
I THOUGHT, I THOUGHT WE ALREADY VOTED ON.
YOU MEAN NOT TO DO, WE'RE WE'RE WAITING ON IT.
DIDN'T, IF WE NEED IT, SHE CAN DO IT.
WE NEED, DO WE NEED ANY PROCEDURAL ACTION TO BE ABLE TO PAY OUR ELECTRIC BILL AND OUR WATER INSURED BILL? THANK YOU.
AT WHAT? LET'S, WHILE WE'RE HERE, LET'S JUST DO, I MEAN, BUT WHAT DO WE, IF YOU WANT TO, THE CHAIR CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION THAT THE POWER BILLS GOING FORWARD FOR NINE 11 NEW BANK STREET SHOULD BE PAID OUT OF YOUR GENERAL FUND.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
IN THE DISCUSSION, DID EVERY EVERYONE HEAR ALL JUST TO CLEAR ALL UTILITY BILLS, WATER, INSURE AS, AS WELL AS TO PROVIDE METER CHARGE? MM-HMM.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I JUST WANT ADD TO THAT.
I'VE WANTED IT TO, UM, MAKE YOU AWARE, MARVIN, THAT THERE IS, THE CITY HAS STILL, UM, COMMITTED TO FIX THE LEAK IN THE PIPE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE.
UM, AND IT, IT'S FINE FOR RIGHT NOW, BUT WHEN THE WATER IS TURNED ON AND IN USE IN THE HOUSE, IT WILL LEAK.
AND THEY, THEY TOLD THE CONTRACTOR IT WAS THEIR PIPE.
THEY WOULD, UM, THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF FIXING.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE THAT, PUT IT ON YOUR CALENDAR, YOUR SCHEDULE.
DID I SAY ALL IN FAVOR? I DON'T THINK I DID.
WE LOOKED AT THAT AND WE DISCUSSED IT AS DEVELOPING ALL THREE OF THOSE LOTS TOGETHER AS, AS KIND OF A CAMPUS APPROACH.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BUDGET THAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER, WE PUT BEFORE THE ALDERMAN, AND IT'S OVER $500,000, WHICH WOULD INITIATE, UH, THE PUBLIC BIDDING PROCESS OF, UM, PUTTING OUT A PACKAGE OF DRAWINGS, SPECIFICATIONS LIKE KIPP HAD SAID EARLIER FOR CONTRACTORS TO BID ON HAVING THE BIDS OPENED AND PUBLICLY READ AND, AND THEN MOVING FORWARD.
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AND IN DISCUSSIONS WITH THE, OUR FAVORITE ATTORNEY, IT WAS THOUGHT THAT MAYBE THIS WOULD BE A, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO, WE DISCUSSED HAVING THE POSSIBILITY OF CITY STAFF HANDLING THE ADMINISTRATIVE DUTIES OF THAT BID PROCESS, UM, BECAUSE THEY DO HAVE THE CAPABILITY TO DO THAT.UM, AND THEN THEY WOULD BRING TO THE COMMISSION THE LOWEST RESPONSIVE BIDDER FOR OUR APPROVAL TO MOVE FORWARD WITH CONSTRUCTION.
SO SIMILAR, LITTLE DIFFERENT FROM THE, UH, WELLNESS CENTER, BUT TO GIVE THE BID PROCESS TO THE CITY STAFF TO ADMINISTER AT THIS TIME FOR THE RY.
EVERYONE UNDERSTAND WHAT SHE'S ASKING? OKAY.
WE JUST NEED A MOTION TO DIRECTION IS FINE.
SO, UM, IF YOU WOULD, UH, WORK WITH MR. WILLIAMS THERE, AND THEN WE CAN TAKE IT, TAKE IT FROM THERE.
AND I WILL SAY WE HAVE, UM, HAVE A SITE PLAN AND WE HAVE SOME HOUSE PLANS, AND THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF WORK THAT I COULD, UM, LOOK AT THAT SITE PLAN, PLACING THOSE HOUSE PLANS AND GIVE TO CITY, UM, STAFF AS A HELP.
CAUSE WE, WE'VE GONE THAT FAR WITH IT, YOU KNOW, AND GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION.
WHAT, WHAT SHE WAS REFERRING TO MARVIN IS THAT JORDAN WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THE DRIVEWAYS ARE GONNA BE SO HE KNOWS WHERE TO PUT THE WATER.
AND SO TAPS OKAY, THAT'S, SORRY.
ALSO, MADAM CHAIR, COULD I ADD, I I DO BELIEVE Y'ALL VOTED ON $1,200 FOR THE APPRAISAL.
SO IS THAT STILL IN PLACE? GOING BACK TO WHAT? UH, YES.
WE JUST GOING ON LEAVE IT JUST IN CASE HABITAT COMES BACK AND SAYS, OH, OKAY.
SO WE'RE JUST GONNA LEAVE IT RIGHT NOW.
SO IT IS APPROVED IN THE FUTURE, SO WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK TO A MEETING, BUT WE'RE NOT, I'M NOT GOING TO INITIATE THAT ON FRIDAY WITH THE APPRAISER.
THE LAST THING WE TALKED ABOUT IS THE FUN THING THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE SIGNS.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE SIGNS THE SIZE.
SO WE JUST, UM, AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS FOR YOU TO DO THE SIGNS? YES.
I'M, I'M DESIGNING THEM AND I'LL SEND THEM OUT TO EVERYBODY.
ONE OTHER IMPORTANT THING ABOUT, UM, THE JONES STREET, THERE ARE SOME INVOICES THAT NEED TO BE PAID AND THEY'RE IN YOUR AGENDA PACKET.
UM, AND IT, IT WOULD COME, IT'S ONE OF THE ITEMS LISTED IN THE BUDGET THAT WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT.
SO IT'S NOT AN UNEXPECTED COST.
IT WAS WHAT WE WERE EXPECTING FOR SURVEYS.
AND WE ARE RECOMMENDING THAT THE COMMISSION APPROVE PAYMENT OF THE INVOICES FROM OUR APPROVED PROJECT FUNDS THAT THE ALDERMAN HAVE ALREADY, UM, APPROVED FOR US TO USE.
AND JAMIE MIGHT HAVE TO HELP US WITH THAT BECAUSE I THINK WE WERE TALKING, TALKING ABOUT OUR PROCEDURE, SO WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO COME BACK AND BACK AND FORTH WITH, WITH THAT INVOICE.
SO HOW, UM, WE JUST NEED TO VOTE AND THEN, UH, STAFF WILL TAKE IT FROM THERE AS MAKING SURE THAT THE FUNDS ARE MOVED TO THE PROJECT FUND.
SO IF WE COULD DO THAT, THEN JUST, UH, VOTE THAT THE INVOICES BE PAID AND THEN IT'LL BE MUCH EASIER NEXT TIME.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BRING IT BACK TO, TO VOTE.
MAKE A MOTION THAT WE PAY THE SURVEYING INVOICES THAT ARE IN THE PACKET.
SECOND QUESTIONS? DISCUSSION? NO.
UH, OUR LAST, UM, UH, REPORT IS FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKING REPORT.
THE COMMUNITY HAS VOICED CONCERNS OVER THE THREE INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS UNDERWAY AND THE COMPLETION DATES FOR RESURFACING AS IT RELATES TO MAIN STREET, RALEIGH STREET AND WASHINGTON STREET.
UH, THERE ALSO HAS BEEN NO COMMUNICATION WITH THE RESIDENTS, AND SOMETHING IS GONNA HAVE TO BE DONE TO LET THEM KNOW, FIRST OF ALL, UH, WHAT POINT WE ARE IN THAT PROCESS.
THE TISDALE HOUSE HAS BEEN MOVED SUCCESSFULLY.
IT WAS A PUBLIC EVENT, WAS WELL ATTENDED, AND WELL, AND IT WAS CLOSELY WATCHED.
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QUESTIONS ABOUT THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER AND THE PARTICULARS ARE GONNA BE A MAIN CONCERN NOW THAT THE TISDALE HOUSE HAS BEEN MOVED.WE DID NOTICE THAT THERE WAS SOME NO DUMPING SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN PLACED IN WHAT WE CALL FREDDY'S CURB, WHICH IS LOCATED AT THE END OF MAIN STREET, WHERE THERE WAS A BIG PROBLEM WITH ILLEGAL DUMPING.
SINCE THE, THE SIGNAGE, THE AREA HAS, UH, BEEN CUT BACK, WELL KEPT, AND IT, AND IT LOOKS GOOD.
AND OF COURSE, THAT HAS BEEN DONE BY BOTH THE CITY AND THE, UH, STANLEY FAMILY WHO OWNS THE HOUSE RIGHT THERE IN THE CURB.
UH, THE WORK ON THE UBANKS HOUSE, WHICH WE JUST FINISHED TALKING ABOUT, SEEMS TO BE PROGRESSING.
OF COURSE, IT IS BOARDED UP, UH, DOES LOOK GOOD.
AND THE COMMUNITY WANTS TO KNOW NOW HOW IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE, THE COMMUNITY.
UH, CAUSE AT FIRST THEY HEARD IT WAS GONNA BE A TRANSITION HOUSE.
I PURPOSELY HAVE NOT AND HAVE NOT PUT ANY INFORMATION OUT.
BUT NOW THAT WE HAVE A GOOD INTEL, UH, I'LL WAIT TILL WE HEAR BACK FROM THE, FROM MR. PARHAM ABOUT HOW WE'RE GONNA PROCEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND GIVING OUT THE SAME INFORMATION.
UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORK GROUP WOULD LIKE TO WELCOME AS ITS NEW MEMBERS, MISS SARAH PROCTOR, MR. JULIUS PARHAM, AND MS. SHARON BRYANT.
THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS, UM, WORK GROUP IS THAT IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF TIME.
THE TWO THINGS THAT YOU NEED TO DO MOST IS RIDE THROUGH THE AREA.
LOOK, SEE WHAT LOOKS RIGHT, SEE WHAT DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT, AND TALK TO THE RESIDENTS.
IF YOU SEE, YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO TO ANYBODY'S HOUSE, KNOCK ON THEIR DOOR.
WHAT YOU DO IS WHEN, WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE WALKING, WHEN YOU SEE THEM TRAVELING, WHEN YOU SEE THEM IN THEIR YARDS, JUST STOP, INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
LET 'EM KNOW THAT YOU ARE PART OF THE REDEVELOPMENT.
THEY, MOST OF THE COMMUNITY IS WELL AWARE, AND YOU JUST LET THEM KNOW, HEY, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE IN THE COMMUNITY? AND THEY WILL LET YOU KNOW THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE PLEASED WITH AND THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE NOT PLEASED WITH.
UH, WE WILL BE WORKING WITH THOSE GROUPS.
THE, UH, RESIDENCE COUNCIL, THE PHOENIX GROUP, UM, AND SOME OF THE OTHER DEPUTY RESIDENCE COUNCIL.
THE OVERALL LANDSCAPE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA REALLY LOOKS GOOD, TO BE HONEST WITH YOU.
THE CITY OWNED LOTS HAVE BEEN MAINTAINED THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS.
UH, THE PRIVATE PROPERTIES ARE LOOKING GOOD, AND WHEN THEY'RE CUTTING PROPERLY MAINTAINED, IT REALLY DOES GIVE A BETTER LOOK TO THE ENTIRE AREA, NOT JUST THE DUFFER FIELD AREA, BUT THE ENTIRE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
UH, THE TRASH SITUATION HAS GOTTEN A LOT BETTER SINCE THE FALL AND THE WINTER.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHY, UH, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE TRASH IS NOT BLOWING IN THE WIND, AND IT IS BEING, BEING PROPERLY, PROPERLY DISPOSED OF, PUT IN THE PROPER CANS.
UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY'VE ADDED ANY DIFFERENT DAYS, UH, WHETHER THE GUYS ARE GETTING OUT OF THEIR TRUCKS, BUT WE HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE'S NOT A LOT OF TRASH THAT'S JUST DANGLING AND BLOWING IN THE WIND.
SO BECAUSE I DON'T SEE IT DANGLING AND BLOWING IN THE WIND, I'VE GOT TO SPEAK ON IT TOO.
THE CLIMATE OF THE COMMUNITY IS NOT IN A BAD PLACE, CONTRARY TO POPULAR BELIEF, BUT IMPROVEMENTS CAN ALWAYS BE MADE.
THE MAIN THING IS THAT COMMUNICATION IS THE KEY.
WE HAVE TO LET OUR COMMUNITY KNOW, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE START PROJECTS, LEAVE PROJECTS, AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE DON'T COME BACK TO PROJECTS.
UM, THERE WAS A GOOD BUZZ GOING ON WITH THE COMMUNITY WHEN THEY CONSISTENTLY AND CONSTANTLY SAW CITY WORKERS, CITY TRUCKS, AND SAW DIFFERENT PROJECTS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE ALL GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.
SOME OF THEM WE MAY HAVE TAKEN CREDIT FOR THAT WERE NOT OF OUR OWN DOING, BUT PROGRESS IS PROGRESS.
AND BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF THE CITY, UH, WE MOST CERTAINLY APPLAUD THE CITY FOR DOING WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
UH, COMMISSIONER MORGAN, GREAT REPORT.
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REPORT.REAL QUICK, JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS.
FIRST OF ALL, UH, I'D LIKE TO, MOST OF Y'ALL ALREADY MET, MET HIM, UH, INTRODUCED THE NEW INTERIM, UM, UH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPER, UH, THAT WE, THAT WE JUST HIRED ON.
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CONTRACTED FOR FOUR MONTHS RIGHT NOW, AND THEN AN ADDITIONAL COUPLE OF MONTHS.SO I'LL GIVE, UH, MR. ZE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IF YOU, YOU LIKE.
I JUST WANT TO SAY AGAIN, AS I'VE SAID TO MOST OF YOU, I'M EXCITED TO BE, UH, PART OF THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
I BELIEVE IN THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AND I BELIEVE THAT IT IS IMPORTANT WORK, UH, THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO MAKE HIGH IMPACT.
AND SO I LOOK FORWARD TO PARTNERING WITH YOU OVER THESE, UH, NEXT FOUR MONTHS.
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DID SKIP OVER, UH, ADAM, CUZ WE ARE PAST ONE HOUR.UM, AND THAT IS THE DISCUSSION OF FUNDING, UM, REDEVELOPMENT, UH, MONTHLY LOT MOWING.
SO COULD YOU, UH, COVER THAT? I THINK WE HAD TALKED YES, MA'AM.
ABOUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO THERE WITH THE LOT MOWING.
UH, I, I DID SUBMIT, UH, DID YOU ALL DID SEE THE PACKAGE TOO, UH, INVOICES, BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY THAT'S JUST TO GIVE YOU ALL AN IDEAL AS TO WHAT THE COST WOULD BE.
OBVIOUSLY WHEN THE GROWING SEASON THAT WE'RE GETTING INTO, IT'S GONNA PROBABLY BE SLIGHTLY MORE, UH, OKAY.
BUT THAT'S PRETTY MUCH ON AVERAGE AND THAT'S GOING FORWARD.
IF YOU ALL, UH, WANT TO UTILIZE THE CITY FOR THAT PURPOSE, THAT'S WHAT THE BOARD WILL BE ASKED TO, UH, APPROVE THE, UH, CITY TO PAY FOR THAT, THOSE SERVICES, UNLESS YOU CHOOSE SOMEONE ELSE THAT YOU, IF YOU WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO, TO DO THOSE SERVICES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE, UH, COMMISSION NEEDS TO DISCUSS, UH, EASIER TO LET THE CITY, UH, CUT IT, BUT THAT'S UP TO THE COMMISSION, SO YOU SEE WHAT THE APPROXIMATE COST WOULD BE ON THAT, SO.
UM, OTHER STAFF NOTES, UH, GOING FORWARD, IS THERE ANY DIRECTION YOU ALL WANT TO GIVE US ON THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE LOTS? JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION.
WE'VE NEVER BEEN TO FOUR YEARS IN THE PAST.
WE'VE NEVER PAID FOR THIS IS
WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT IT'S PROBABLY BEEN SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS CARED FOR IN THE PAST, BUT, UM, NOW THAT THE RDC IS MORE ESTABLISHED AND, AND HAS FUNDS AVAILABLE, I THINK THAT'S THE, WHERE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ALL A SIDE.
I MEAN, TO BE FAIR TO ANYONE, ANY PROPERTY OWNERS OVER THERE, THIS IS, THIS IS THE, WHICH IS WHAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED.
THIS IS WHAT'S GONNA BE REQUIRED.
WELL, CITY CONTINUE TO CUT THESE INVOICES.
FOR WHAT, FOR WHAT PERIOD DID THEY COVER? SO I'M, I SEE ONE FOR 1400 AND THEN THIS FOR A MONTH.
I THINK THE DATE WERE UP THERE WHEN THEY DO IT ONCE A MONTH, HOWEVER MANY TIMES THEY DO IT, IT WAS, IT COVERED THE ENTIRE MONTH THAT THOSE, UH, INVOICES ON APRIL.
CAUSE IT JUST SAYS START DATE FOUR 17, COMPLETION DATE FOUR 19.
SO IS THAT ONE TIME EACH MONTH OR NO? NO, I BELIEVE IT MAY, UM, ESPECIALLY DURING THE GROWING SEASON.
I'M PRETTY SURE THEY GO BY AT LEAST, UH, TWO OR THREE TIMES A WEEK, A MONTH, TWO OR THREE TIMES A MONTH.
SO THREE TIMES $1,400 A MONTH.
IT IS ACCORDING TO HOW MANY PROPERTIES YOU HAVE THERE, COMMISSIONER.
SO I, UH, HOWEVER MANY PROPERTIES YOU ALL HAVE, IT'S NOT JUST ON PROPERTY, IT'S ALL, THEY'RE MAINTAINING ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNS.
NO, BUT IT SAYS RDC, UH, A LOT MORE IN LISTS.
I I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND LIKE WHAT PERIOD, THE $1,400 COVERAGE? I STILL NOT PROBLEM.
UM, EACH INVOICE IS FOR ONE MONTH, ONE MOWING ACCORDING TO THE, TO THE INVOICES WE HAVE OF THE WHOLE LIST, OF COURSE.
BUT ONE, SO ONE MOWING A MONTH IS WHAT THE, AND ONE MOWING A MONTH IS, IS WHAT THE INVOICES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR PACKET REPRESENT.
AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, I I RECEIVED THAT FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICE, I MEAN FROM PUBLIC WORKS, AND THAT'S THE TIME SPENT, OR THE NUMBER OF LOTS THAT ARE ALLOCATED IS WHAT THEY, THEY'VE CHARGED FOR.
SO I'M NOT SURE HOW, HOW REGULARLY THEY GO OUT THERE, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE COST THAT THEY WOULD CHARGE.
SO MAYBE, SO IF THEY MOW TWO OR THREE TIMES A MONTH, WE COULD BE LOOKING AT 1500 TIMES THREE, SOMEBODY DO MATH, UH, $4,500 A MONTH.
NO, THIS IS THE COST THAT YOU HAVE THERE IS PRETTY MUCH WHAT IT'S GONNA AVERAGE OUT TO FOR PER OKAY.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
I'M LIKE, ARE WE GONNA BE BROKE BY DECEMBER? THAT'S ALL I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT.
SO I GUESS MY, MY CONCERN IS EXACTLY, MY CONCERN IS THAT IF I WASN'T PAYING TO HAVE MY GRASS CUT, I PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE AS, HAVE SUCH A PROBLEM WITH IT WHEN IT WASN'T CUT WHEN I WANTED IT TO BE CUT.
BUT IF I HAVE TO PAY FOR IT TO BE CUT, THEN I WANT IT CUT WHEN I WANT IT TO BE CUT.
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HAVE WE EVER, UM, GOT A COPY OR DO WE KNOW WHAT THE CITY ORDINANCE IS ON THE LOTS THAT, NOT THAT WE OWN, BUT THE LOTS THAT THE CITY OWNS, UH, I MEAN, WHAT ARE WE GONNA BASE IT ON THE, UH, FREQUENCY OF WHICH IT'S CUT OR THE FREQUENCY ON WHICH IT'S NOT CUT? I MEAN, I WOULD, I MEAN, WE'RE GOING TO, WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF BASELINE ON WHAT WE'RE GOING TO USE AS A GUIDELINE SO THAT WE'RE SATISFIED WHEN WE'RE SPENDING MY, MY MONEY TO GET MY GRASS CUT.I MEAN, THAT, THAT'S HOW YOU GOTTA LOOK AT IT.
YOU KNOW, YOU'RE SPENDING MONEY TO HAVE YOUR GRASS CUT AND YOU'RE PAYING FOR IT.
SO DON'T YOU WANT THE GRASS CUT WHEN YOU WANT IT CUT? WELL, UM, THAT WAS A, I'M SORRY.
I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT.
I, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, I WAS JUST GONNA SAY, IF YOU WANT YOUR GRASS, IF YOU WANT THESE LOTS CUT OFF, THEN LIKE YOU CUT YOUR YARD, IT'S GONNA PROBABLY COST US MORE.
BUT IF YOU, IF YOU HIRE SOMEBODY, BUT IF THE CITY'S GONNA DO IT, I MEAN CITY, IF THE CITY'S GONNA DO IT AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, I'M JUST SAYING THAT LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT WE ARE GETTING INTO AND THAT IT IS BEING CUT ON A REGULAR BASIS AND THAT IT DOES LOOK GOOD.
WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, BECAUSE THAT IS PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORK, WORK GROUP RESPONSIBILITY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THE CITIZENS DO COME OUT, ESPECIALLY WHEN, UH, IF WE ARE ASKING THEM TO KEEP THEIR LAWNS CUT AND KEEP THEIR THINGS MANICURED AND THAT SORT OF THING, THEN WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME KIND OF GUIDELINES TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING OUR PART ALSO.
SO AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, AFTER WE RIDE AROUND, THEN WE CAN MAKE A REPORT BACK TO THE CITY, TO THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, WHETHER OR NOT WE WERE SATISFIED WITH THE CUT.
BY THE WAY, WE'LL BE MEETING BEFORE THE END OF THE MONTH, UH, COMMISSION
SO ARE WE ARE, AS OF THIS POINT, WE ARE GONNA ALLOW THE CITY TO CONTINUE? YES.
IS THAT ALL YOU HAVE? UH, FOR, UH, THE, THE, UH, ONE OTHER THING, UH, YOU ALL WILL EMAIL SUGGESTIONS FOR ADDITIONAL, UH, INFORMATION FOR THE POSITION DESCRIPTION THAT WE'LL BE ADVERTISING FOR THE PERMANENT, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION.
SO, UH, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANYTHING, WE ASK THAT YOU ALL HAVE THAT TO US BY MONDAY SO THAT WE CAN, UM, UH, IF WE NEED TO MAKE SOME ADDITIONS OR EMAIL OR ADDITIONAL SUGGESTIONS TO THE, THE, UM, POSITIONS THAT YOU ALWAYS, UH, LORD, UH, EMAIL.
AND, UH, AGAIN, UH, WE JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE THREE ON THREES THAT WE, AND I THINK THERE WAS SOME GOOD INFORMATION PASSED ALONG, AND HOPEFULLY THAT, UH, THE COMMUNICATIONS WILL CONTINUE TO, UH, GO BOTH WAYS.
SO IF WE CAN, UH, HELP YOU ALL WITH WHAT YOU ALL DO AS VOLUNTEERS, WE APPRECIATE IT.
AND JUST, UH, ANYTHING THAT WE CAN DO, JUST KEEP THE COMMUNICATIONS OPEN.
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ALL RIGHT.ANY NEW BUSINESS COMMISSION? NO, MA'AM.
ANY NEW BUSINESS FROM YOU? NO, I DON'T.
YOU HAVE ANY NEW BUSINESS? NOT TONIGHT.
UH, WHEN AND WHO CAN I SPEAK TO AS IT RELATES TO GETTING SOME INFORMATION FOR THE COMMUNITY AS IT RELATES TO THOSE THREE PROJECTS? JUST TO KIND OF GIVE, GIVE AND SOME TYPE OF INFORMATION ON UPDATE ON WHEN THE PAVING, BECAUSE EVERYTHING TO MY UNDERSTANDING, HAS BEEN COMPLETED ON THE RALEIGH STREET, MAIN STREET AND WASHINGTON STREET PROJECTS OTHER THAN THE PAVING, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT THAT IS CORRECT.
AND, AND WE, WE DID ADDRESS, UH, ADDRESS THIS, UH, THE OTHER DAY WITH THE, UH, UH, THE PAVEMENT.
WE HAVE, UH, ALREADY CONTRACTED, UM, A CONTRACTOR TO DO THAT AND THE ONE THAT'S DOING THE MILLING WORK.
UH, CURRENTLY THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE UNTIL THE WEEK AFTER JULY THE FOURTH, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET 'EM EARLIER.
ONCE THEY DO THE MILL WORK ON THAT PROPERTY, WHICH ONLY IS GONNA, IT IS ONLY GONNA TAKE ONE DAY FOR THEM TO MILL ALL THOSE, UH, FOURTH STREET.
AND THEN, UH, IT'LL TAKE ABOUT THREE DAYS AFTER THAT WE'LL BE CONTRACTED TO, UM, UH, REPAY THE STREET.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE TALKING RIGHT NOW, UH, PROVIDED WE HAVE THE, UH, THE WEATHER'S COOPERATIVE, UH, WITHIN THE FIRST COUPLE OF WEEKS OF JULY, IT SHOULD BE CARED FOR.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW WHEN THIS PROJECT, WHEN THESE PROJECTS STARTED, AROUND WHAT TIMEFRAME? THE, I THINK ORIGINALLY IT WAS PROBABLY FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO.
HOWEVER, UH, AND, AND OF COURSE WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT, UH, THE TIMEFRAME HAS BEEN SOMEWHAT UNACCEPTABLE, BUT,
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UH, WHEN, WHEN IT COMES TO PAVING THE ROADWAYS, THERE'S A, DURING THE WINTER MONTHS, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T PAVE ROADS AND, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE, THE, UH, THE ABILITY TO DO ANYTHING AT THE CITY HAS, WE CAN ONLY PATCH ROADS.AND THAT'S WHY WE HAD TO GET A CONTRACTOR TO DO IT.
AND THIS IS THE TIMEFRAME THAT WE WERE ABLE TO GET A CONTRACT.
THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED.
UH, OTTOMAN, UH, PRI DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FOR US TONIGHT? NO.
THANK YOU FOR, UH, THANK YOU FOR COMING.
UH, UH, I WANT TO, THIS IS MY, UH, LAST MEETING, EFFECTIVE JULY, UH, FIFTH.
I WILL BE, UM, DONE WITH THE COMMISSION.
I WANT TO THANK YOU, ALL OF YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SERVE YOU FOR THE LAST FIVE YEARS.
SO CAN YOU BE REAPPOINTED? I CAN, BUT I WILL NOT BE.
I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE MAYOR
IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, SO MOVE.