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[1. Call to order and Welcome.]
WILL CALL THE MEETING OF THE NEW BERN REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO ORDER.UH, WE'LL ESTABLISH QUORUM WITH A ROLL CALL.
AND THEN SIMILAR TO LAST MEETING, UH, IN THE ABSENCE OF A CHAIR OR VICE CHAIR, WE WILL NEED TO, UH, DESIGNATE AN INDIVIDUAL TO BE THE ACTING CHAIR THIS EVENING.
SO I WILL CALL THE ROLL CALL AND THEN I WILL HAND IT OVER TO OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY, UH, TO ESTABLISH A CHAIR.
COMMISSIONER BRIAN HOT, BUT HERE.
UM, AS YOU HAVE BEEN APPRISED, UM, WE HAVE A VACANCY FOR OUR, OUR CHAIR AND THE VICE CHAIR.
MR. PARAGO IS UNAVAILABLE THIS EVENING.
SO AS WAS, UM, THE CASE AT YOUR LAST MEETING, YOU ALL WILL NEED TO VOTE AND DESIGNATE A PRESIDING OFFICER FOR THIS MEETING.
THAT PERSON WILL LEAD YOU IN YOUR DISCUSSIONS WILL, UH, RULES ON RULE ON, UH, PROCEDURAL MATTERS AND THE LIKE.
SO IF THERE'S ANY NOMINATIONS, YOU CAN MAKE ONE.
AND SECOND FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER WALKER TO BE THE PRESIDING OFFICER FOR THIS MEETING.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? SEEING NONE.
UM, YOU CAN SIGNIFY YOUR AGREEMENT TO THE MOTION BY SAYING AYE.
MS. WALKER WILL BE THE PRESIDING OFFICER, PLEASE.
UM, WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE NEWBURY REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO ORDER.
WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE ROLL CALL.
UM, THE NEXT THING ON THE AGENDA.
OH, WELL, I WILL SAY, UM, AS AN INTRODUCTION TO THE PUBLIC THAT THE NEW REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS A PUBLIC BODY APPOINTED BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN OF THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
IT IS A PUBLIC BODY GOVERNED BY THE NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL STATUTES, AND IN PARTICULAR THE OPEN MEETING LAWS.
[3. Approve the Agenda. ]
THE FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.EVERYONE HAS THE AGENDA IN THEIR PACKET.
I THINK YOU'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, SO MOVE SECOND AND MOVE SECOND.
WELL, WE ARE MOVING ON WITH THE APPROVED AGENDA,
[4. Guiding Principles]
AND THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THOSE ON THE SCREEN.
I'M GONNA HAND THEM TO YOU AND LET YOU SAY THE FIRST ONE AND YOU CAN PASS IT AROUND.
COMMISSIONER, PRESENT EQUAL TIME, RESPECT OTHERS' OPINION.
LISTEN TO BILL CONSENSUS, SHARE ACRONYM FOR INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
BE ACTION ORIENTED AND BELIEVE.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER PALMER.
[5. Public Comments]
PUBLIC COMMENTS.AND I AM NOT SEEING ANY PUBLIC COM PEOPLE TO COMMENT.
SO SEEING NO ONE, WE WILL MOVE ON FROM THAT ONE AND GET RIGHT DOWN TO BUSINESS, CUZ WE DO HAVE A LONG AGENDA TONIGHT.
[6. Presentation by Habitat for Humanity of Craven County about the following development opportunities on Eubanks Street: a. Habitat for Humanity’s use of the house located at 911 Eubanks Street; and b. Request for [list properties] on Eubanks Street for housing projects. ]
THE, UM, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SIX IS A PRESENTATION BY HABITAT FOR HUMANITY OF CRAVEN COUNTY, UH, FOR THE FOLLOWING DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ON UBANK STREET.NUMBER ONE, HABITAT FOR HUMANITIES USE OF THE HOUSE LOCATED AT NINE 11 UBANK STREET.
AND NUMBER TWO, REQUEST FOR OTHER PROPERTIES ON UBANK STREET FOR HOUSING PROJECTS.
AND TONIGHT WE HAVE WITH US TRACY LILLY, WHO IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF HABITAT FOR HUMANITY FOR CRAVEN COUNTY.
I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME UP AND TELL US, GIVE US YOUR PRESENTATION AND TELL US WHAT YOU HAVE PLANNED.
I'M TRACY DELEY, THE ED AT HABITAT FOR HUMANITY OF CRAVEN COUNTY.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR INVITING ME HERE TODAY.
I'D LIKE TO TALK TO YOU TONIGHT ABOUT, UM, NINE 11 UBANKS.
THERE IS A HOME THERE AND YOU NEED RESIDENTS FOR THAT HOME.
AND, UM, WE ARE CONSIDERING A PARTNERSHIP, UM, WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, UM, TO FIND A HOMEOWNER FOR THAT, UH, EXISTING PROPERTY.
AS YOU KNOW, UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF HOMEOWNERS IN NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM, THE 2022 CENSUS IS 28% OF, UM, CRAVEN COUNTY, UM, HOMEOWNERS,
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UM, RESIDENTS ARE IN NEED OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.SO, UM, THIS YEAR WE'VE HAD TWO HOME OWNERSHIP SESSIONS.
USUALLY WE GET MAYBE THREE TO FOUR, UH, PROSPECTIVE HOMEOWNERS OUT OF THOSE TWO SESSIONS.
THIS TIME WE HAD 40 OVER 40 SHOW UP.
THEY WENT THROUGH THEIR APPLICATION PROCESS, THEY WENT THROUGH THE INTERVIEWS.
UM, WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO NINE WHO HAVE BEEN PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AND PASSED THROUGH THE BOARD.
SO THESE ARE NINE FAMILIES THAT ARE IN NEED TODAY FOR HOMES.
THE PROBLEM IS, IS THAT WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH IN OUR INVENTORY RIGHT NOW.
A LOT OF OUR CURRENT, UH, PROPERTIES ARE IN THE FLOOD ZONE, SO WE'RE LOOKING FOR NEW PROPERTIES WITH REGARDS TO THE PROPERTY AT NINE 11 UBANK, WE HAVE, UM, TWO POTENTIAL HOMEOWNERS THAT WILL FIT, THAT WOULD, UH, FIT THE CRITERIA.
THERE'S, I THINK IT'S A TWO AND A HALF BEDROOM HOME WITH A ONE BED, ONE BATH.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS A SINGLE PERSON WITH AN OLDER, UM, DEPENDENT.
SO EITHER ONE OF THEM WILL FIT, THEY'VE ALREADY STARTED OUR PROCESS.
THE NEXT STEP FOR THEM IS TO MOVE THEIR SWEAT EQUITY HOURS, WHICH WE COULD WORK WITH THEM IF THIS IS TO BE, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR HOMES THAT WE GET TO PLACE A, UM, RESIDENT IN, IN THE FALL AS EARLY AS THE FALL.
SO I'M ASKING IF IT'D BE POSSIBLE TO GET THAT HOME DONATED TO US.
IF YOU LOOK IN YOUR, UM, PACKET, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL AS FAR AS WHAT IT WOULD COST US TO GET THAT HOME, UH, TO MOVE IN READY.
THE SECOND REQUEST IS THE THREE PROPERTIES ACROSS THE STREET FROM NINE 11 EUBANKS.
IF YOU LOOK, UH, NINE 11 IS IN BLUE.
THE THREE PROPERTIES ARE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.
TWO OF THEM ARE OWNED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND THE LITTLE SLIVER IS ALSO OWNED BY THE CITY.
WE ARE ASKING IF IT'D BE POSSIBLE TO GET ALL THREE OF THOSE PROPERTIES SO WE COULD BUILD EITHER TWO, TWO BEDROOM HOMES OR ONE THREE BEDROOM, A TWO BEDROOM.
IF WE GET ALL THREE, INCLUDING THE SLIVER, UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO BUILD A THREE BEDROOM AS WELL AS A FOUR BEDROOM HOME.
THE ADVANTAGE OF HAVING THREE DIFFERENT FAMILIES OR HABITAT FAMILIES IN THIS STREET IS THAT BUILDING IN CLUSTERS MAKES A DIFFERENCE NOT ONLY FOR THE STREET, BUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND IF WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT AREAS, THEN IT MAKES A DIFFERENCE IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO I'M NOT PUTTING ONE HOMEOWNER HERE AND ANOTHER HOMEOWNER THERE.
THEY GO INTO COHORTS AND THEY COULD LIVE CLOSE BY EACH OTHER AND WORK WITH EACH OTHER AND UNDERSTAND EACH OTHER AND WHAT THEY NEED FOR HOME OWNERSHIP.
SO THOSE ARE MY TRUE REQUESTS ON THE TABLE.
DOES ANYONE ON THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, MS. LILLY.
MS. WALKER? YEAH, CAN YOU WALK ME THROUGH JUST A LITTLE BIT, AND YOU DON'T NEED TO GO INTO GREAT DETAIL, KIND OF, UH, HOW, UH, THE LOCAL HABITAT VERSUS THE NATIONAL HABITAT, HOW IT FALLS UP AND KIND OF WHAT THE REVENUE MODEL LOOKS LIKE.
UM, PRESUMABLY, I MEAN, YOU GUYS OBVIOUSLY HAVE THE EXPENSES THAT ARE IN A HOUSE.
IF YOU GO TO BUILD, ARE THOSE REIMBURSED FROM THE NATIONAL OR DO YOU HAVE TO RAISE THAT MONEY LOCALLY OR HOW, HOW DOES THAT WORK? IT'S ALL LOCAL.
EACH AFFILIATE IS INDIVIDUALLY OWNED, ACTUALLY.
UM, WE GET SOME ASSISTANCE FROM INTERNATIONAL, BUT WE RUN ON OUR OWN.
OUR, ESSENTIALLY OUR BOARD OWNS OUR AFFILIATES FOR EACH AFFILIATE IN, IN THE NATION.
AND THEN WITH REGARDS TO OUR BUDGET, WE HAVE A 1.2 MILLION BUDGET.
UM, OUR SALARY, THAT'S USUALLY THE FIRST QUESTION EVERYBODY ASKS IS USUALLY ABOUT 54%, WHICH IS UNDER THE NORM OF ABOUT 60%.
SO, UM, YEAH, WE KEEP A CLOSE EYE ON THAT.
WITH REGARDS TO BUILDING OUR HOMES, IT COSTS ABOUT $120,000 JUST IN BUILDING AND MATERIAL.
A LOT OF OUR VENDORS THAT WE WORK WITH GIVE US FANTASTIC DISCOUNTS, UH, GREAT, GREAT RATES FOR THEIR SERVICES AND THE WORK WE HAVE TO CONTRACT OUT HVAC AND ALL THE TRADES, ELECTRICAL, PLUMBING SORT OF THING.
OTHERWISE, MOST OF OUR HOMES ARE BUILT BY OUR OWN STAFF OF THREE THAT WORK ON THE CONSTRUCTION SITE.
AND THEN VOLUNTEERS APPROXIMATELY 1600 VOLUNTEER HOURS PER HOME IS WHAT IT IT EQUATES TO.
SO YOU JUST MENTIONED, UH, A HUNDRED AND TWENTY, A HUNDRED TWENTY FIVE.
SO IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD ESTIMATE THAT IT WOULD COST YOU GUYS IF YOU WERE TO BUILD WHAT'S SITTING ON UBANK RIGHT NOW? IS THAT WHAT YOU WOULD ESTIMATE OR WOULD IT BE MORE OR LESS JUST, IT WOULD BE PROBABLY MORE.
WE WOULD BUILD PROBABLY ABOUT $180,000 HOME.
UM, THEN WE'RE, UM, ABLE TO OFFSET THAT, UH, UH, FOR THE HOMEOWNER BECAUSE WE COULD PROVIDE 'EM THE FIRST MORTGAGE, WHICH THEY, THEY RECEIVE A 0% UP TO 25 YEARS, AND THEN WE'LL UNDERWRITE A SECOND MORTGAGE FOR THEM TO HELP BRING THAT COST DOWN FOR THEM.
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AND NOT SPEND ANY MORE THAN 30% OF THEIR MONTHLY INCOME ON THEIR MORTGAGES.AND THEN THAT MORTGAGE, IS THAT SOMETHING THAT'S DONE BY INTERNATIONAL, OR DO YOU GUYS ACTUALLY DO THAT LOCALLY OR SO? OH, WE CARRY OUR OWN, YEAH, CARRY YOUR OWN.
SO WE PUT THE MONEY OUT, WE BUILD THE HOMES, IT COSTS US ABOUT $180,000, LIKE I SAID, ABOUT 120 JUST IN MATERIALS AND, UH, TRADE LABOR.
AND THEN WE MORTGAGE THE PROPERTY OUT PROBABLY ABOUT, ABOUT A HUNDRED FORTY, A HUNDRED THIRTY SEVEN TO $140,000, AND WE GET REIMBURSED OVER 25 YEARS.
SO, AND OF, OF THESE, UM, ELIGIBLE, UM, PARTICIPANTS, ARE THEY ALREADY VETTED TO GO INTO A MORTGAGE SITUATION AND FOR THIS HOUSE, YOU KNOW? YES, THEY ARE.
THEY'VE, UH, STARTED THIS PROCESS A COUPLE MONTHS AGO.
THEY NEED LETTERS FROM THEIR EMPLOYERS, FROM THEIR NEIGHBORS, FROM THEIR LANDLORDS.
THEY GO THROUGH AN INTENSIVE, UM, INTERVIEW PROCESS.
THEY MEET WITH OUR SELECTION COMMITTEE WHO ARE ALL BOARD MEMBERS AND VOLUNTEERS.
THEY HAVE A HOME VISIT, YOU KNOW, TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THEY SAY IS TRUE.
EVERYTHING, ALL THEIR TAX RETURNS, EVERYTHING IS CHECKED, UM, BEFORE THEY'RE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD.
AND THEN THE BOARD ULTIMATELY DECIDES WHICH ONES.
SO NINE OF THESE THAT ARE, HAVE BEEN APPROVED ARE IN THAT, THAT PLACE RIGHT NOW? YES.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE PRESSURE ON US.
USUALLY WE BUILD ABOUT THREE HOUSES A YEAR AND WE, LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE MAYBE 2, 3, 4 HOMEOWNERS THAT COME THROUGH EVERY YEAR.
AND WE HAVE NINE THAT ARE ALL ELIGIBLE AND READY NOW.
AND, AND THEY HAVE A NEED NOW.
I DIDN'T PERSONALLY, BUT THE COLLECTION SELECTION COMMITTEE SAW THEIR HOMES AND THEY NEED HOMES NOW.
AND THE WAY THAT WE'RE BUILDING AND PUSHING OUT, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY MIGHT NOT GET INTO A PLACE FOR 18 MONTHS, TWO YEARS, TWO YEARS MAXIMUM.
SO, LIKE I SAID, WE WENT FROM THREE TO NINE.
SO WE ARE IN DESPERATE NEED OF PROPERTY.
AND YOU DID HAVE, THERE WAS TWO PARTS THAT YOU PRESENTED.
THE FIRST ONE WAS THE REQUEST TO HAVE THE DONATION OF THE COMPLETED HOUSE THAT WE HAVE IN NINE 11 UBANK.
AND THE SECOND PART WAS TO REQUEST THE EMPTY LOTS ACROSS THE STREET IN ORDER TO CREATE THE CLUSTER.
AND, UM, JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR, THE COMMISSION OWNS TWO OF THOSE LOTS.
IT MIGHT BE OWNED BY THE CITY AND COUNTY.
SO THAT ONE WE WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO, WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK YOU HAD, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG DOING, WE DON'T HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO GIVE THAT ONE AWAY, BUT WE COULD AUTHORIZE THE UPSET BID PROCESS OR RECOMMEND IT TO THE CITY.
YOU CERTAINLY HAVE THE ABILITY TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION.
SO THAT WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY AND THE OTHER ONES, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO DONATE THAT LAND AS WELL.
OR SELL THE LAND, OR, I'M ALWAYS LOOKING AT YOU WHEN I'M TALKING MONEY, STEVE
WELL, AND I, I UNDERSTAND YOUR, YOUR STANDARD MODEL IS TO REQUEST DONATIONS TO THE PROPERTY.
AND I, I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE, UH, THE DESIRE TO CLUSTER, BUT CONSIDERING THE VALUE OF THE HOUSE THAT'S BEING CONVEYED, WOULD THERE BE ANY APPETITE IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM TO, TO PAY A NOMINAL AMOUNT FOR THOSE LOTS THAT ARE ACROSS THE STREET? SO YOU COULD DO THE CLUSTERING? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'D HAVE TO TALK, UH, A LITTLE BIT FURTHER ABOUT, BECAUSE IT DEPENDS ON THE VARIANCE.
I JUST GOT A LITTLE BIT OF AN EDUCATION FROM OUR CONSTRUCTION MANAGER WHO'S ACTUALLY ON PTO.
BUT, UH, JUST ENOUGH TO SAY THAT IF IT GETS TO THAT POINT, THAT LEADS TO ANOTHER DISCUSSION BECAUSE, UM, THE WAY THAT THE HOUSES ARE SET UP, SET UP NOW, WE COULD BUILD, DEFINITELY BUILD TWO BEDROOM HOMES, AND THEN WE HAVE THAT LONG SPACE BECAUSE THE ANGLE, THEY'RE NOT CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE HIGHWAY OR TO THE ROAD, SO WE HAVE TO BUILD IT FURTHER BACK.
SO THEY'RE LIKE KIND OF GALLEY STYLE SORT OF THING.
UM, IF THEY WERE ABLE TO REZONE OR RECONFIGURE THE VARIANCE, NOT SURE OF MY TERMINOLOGY HERE, THEN WE'D BE ABLE TO SPREAD IT OUT AND BRING THE HOMES UP AND POSSIBLY PUT THREE HOMES THERE, THREE SMALLER, TWO BEDROOMS, OR LIKE I SAID, A THREE AND A FOUR.
SO YOU HAVE MORE FAMILY IN THAT AREA.
BUT YOUR, YOUR QUESTION WAS, WAS HAVE HABITAT WILLING TO PAY A LITTLE BIT FOR THE PROBLEM? YEAH.
AND, AND ACKNOWLEDGING THE FACT THAT, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT, THERE'S $140,000 HOUSE THAT'S GONNA BE MORTGAGED THAT'S GONNA, YOU'RE GONNA GENERATE THE REVENUE OFF OF.
I WOULD THINK THAT IT WOULDN'T BE OUTLANDISH TO AS OF RIGHT.
A FAIR AMOUNT FOR THE PROPERTY.
I KNOW YOU LOOK AT IT ON A PROJECT BY PROJECT BASIS, AND THAT WOULD AFFECT THE NUMBERS OF THAT PROJECT.
BUT IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE LOOKING IN CLUSTERS, THEN THIS
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WOULD BE ONE CLUSTER, RIGHT.AND THAT WOULD BE PART OF YOUR COST FOR THAT ENTIRE CLUSTER.
I WOULD ASSUME AS FAR AS THE UBANK HOME GOES, I DON'T KNOW IF, UM, REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION COULD SELL THAT HOME BECAUSE OF THE FUNDING FOR NO, WE'D BE DONATING THAT PROPERTY.
BUT WITH THE, WITH REGARD TO THE CROSS LOTS ACROSS THE STREET.
PAY A NOMINAL AMOUNT FOR THOSE.
AND I, AND I CERTAINLY WILLING TO SET UP.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A CONVERSATION THAT WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK TO THEIR BOARD.
UM, I MEAN, I, I'M STILL, I'M, I'M STILL MYSELF.
I'M STILL MINDSET THAT IF WE'VE GOT SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WANTS TO DEVELOP IT, LET DEVELOP, I MEAN, THAT'S JUST KIND OF WHERE I, AND I SAY I UNDERSTAND THE PEACE ABOUT SOME MONEY, BUT IF WE CAN GET SOME MONEY, WE'RE FINE.
BUT IF YOU GOT SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO DEVELOP SOMETHING AND THEY CAN, AND THEY CAN DO IT WITHIN ONE OR TWO YEARS, PUT IT BACK ON THE TAX BOOK AND WHATEVER.
I, THAT'S, THAT'S PRETTY GOOD.
BUT I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE RIGHT.
IF WE CAN MAKE SOME MONEY, I, I AGREE WITH THAT.
BUT IF WE GOT A GROUP THAT CAN DO IT AND, AND WE CAN DONATE IT, YEAH.
THAT'S, DON'T THINK IT'S AN OUTRAGEOUS ASK, HUH? I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S AN OUTRAGEOUS ASK.
BUT THAT WOULD BE SOME, HER BOARD WOULD'VE TO GO BACK AND DISCUSS IF THEY WANT PRESENT.
AND IF WE DO, IF WE DO SELL PROPERTY, WE HAVE THE AUTHORITY TO PUT, UM, A CONTINGENCY ON IT, YOU KNOW, SOME, UM, LIKE THEY HAVE TO DO IT IN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
WOULD THAT BE THE CASE IF WE WERE DONATING THE PROPERTY? YES, MA'AM.
WITH ANY CONVEYANCE OF REAL PROPERTY, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION COULD ADD ANY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS.
I WILL SAY THAT GENERALLY WHEN THE CITY OF BERN DONATES PROPERTY TO HABITAT, OR LIKE, UM, INSTITUTIONS, THERE ARE THOSE CONVEYANCES ARE SUBJECT TO A TRANSFER AND REVERSION AGREEMENT.
AND IT LAYS OUT THE TIMEFRAMES FOR CONSTRUCTION THAT THE HOMES MUST BE OCCUPIED BY LOW, MODERATE INCOME, UM, INDIVIDUALS AND SEVERAL OTHER CONDITIONS WHICH YOU COULD ADAPT TO WHATEVER YOUR PARTICULARS ARE.
AND, AND THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD RUN WITH THE LAND FOR FOREVER.
AND THOSE CONDITIONS WOULD NEED TO BE PRESENTED TO THEM BEFORE THEY SAY, OKAY, WE'LL TAKE IT MM-HMM.
I ALSO THINK THAT WE HAVE NON FAMILIES OUT THERE THAT NEED A PLACE TO STAY.
AND I THINK THAT, I MEAN, I KNOW MONEY MEANS A LOT, BUT WE HAVE NINE FAMILIES THAT THIS PARTICULAR AREA NEEDS TO BE REDEVELOPED, AND THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO BRING HABITAT ON TO HAVE THOSE HOUSES BUILT.
YOU ALREADY TALKING ABOUT A YEAR AND A HALF.
WE DONE BEEN THROUGH FLORENCE COVID.
THAT'S THREE YEARS AND A HALF RIGHT THERE.
SO IF WE CAN MOVE TO GET THESE FAMILIES IN THESE HOUSES AS QUICK AS WE CAN, I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO WORK ON.
CAN I ASK A HISTORICAL QUESTION MAYBE OF THIS, MAYBE OF, UH, MARVIN AND JAMES, WHEN, UM, THE CITY WORKS WITH HABITAT IN THE PAST, UM, HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY NOMINAL FEE? IS THERE ANY, UM, HIS HISTORICAL, I MEAN, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE LOTS HAVE BEEN DONATED.
DONATED WITHOUT, NO, WITHOUT CONSIDERATION.
I READ THIS 20 PAGE DEAL HERE, SO I'M TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES, SO, ALRIGHT.
UM, THAT'S NEXT ON THE AGENDA.
UH, SO I'M FOLLOWING THE RULE TODAY.
UM, TIMELINE AS FAR AS A CLUSTER, UH, WE HAD A, UH, EXTREMELY, UH, IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION, UM, ABOUT CLUSTERS AND TRYING TO DO REALLY TWO THINGS AT ONE TIME AT OUR LAST, UH, SPECIAL CALL MEETING.
AND THE PRIME EXAMPLE RIGHT NOW IS ACCO STREET IN THE PEMBROKE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD.
WE HAVE 17 0 7, 17 0 3, AND 17 0 1, 17 0 7.
STARTED, UH, EARLY SPRING, FEBRUARY, MARCH.
AND 1703 AND 1701 ARE ALSO DUE TO CLOSE LATE FALL.
ARE THEY, IS IT ONE AT A TIME OR YOU HAVE TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS? THERE'S THREE OF THEM THAT ARE GOING AT THE SAME, AT THE SAME TIME.
THAT'S, SO WHEREVER WE COULD CUT THE COST, IF THEY'RE COMING TO LEAD THE SLAB AND THE FOUNDATION, IT'S A LOT EASIER TO GET ONE CONTRACTOR THERE DOING THREE AND ONE AREA, THEN BACK AND FORTH.
ALSO THE TIME WITH, YOU KNOW, STAFF AND VOLUNTEERS AND EVERYTHING JUST TO BE IN THAT.
BUT ULTIMATELY IT'S, IT'S BEST WE FOUND THAT IT'S BEST FOR THE HOMEOWNERS BECAUSE THEY GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
SO THEY GO THROUGH THEIR CLASSES TOGETHER, THEY WORK ON THEIR HOME TOGETHER, THEY HAVE TO VOLUNTEER TOGETHER, AND THEN THEY MOVE IN BESIDE
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EACH OTHER AND THEN THEY COULD SUPPORT EACH OTHER WITH SOMETHING, YOU KNOW, WHEN THEY HAVE TO CHANGE THE FILTERS AND, YOU KNOW, DO ALL HOMEOWNER STUFF.THEY'RE THERE TO SUPPORT EACH OTHER AND THAT'S WHY IT WORKS SO WELL.
SEE THAT ANSWERED THE QUESTION.
SO IS IT NINE 11 UBANKS PLUS THOSE, THE OTHER CLUSTER, IS THAT THE ONLY WAY YOU WOULD WANT NINE 11 UBANKS DONATED? IS IT A PACKAGE DEAL? I'D LOVE TO HAVE IT AS A PACKAGE DEAL CUZ OTHERWISE WE'RE TAKING ONE HOMEOWNER AND PUTTING THEM RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF NOWHERE.
UM, IF WE'RE NOT BUILDING HERE, IN ALL HONESTY, IF WE'RE NOT BUILDING HERE, THEN WE'RE GONNA BE LOOKING MORE FOR MORE HOMES IN THE PEMBROKE AREA IF I ALREADY BUILT ABOUT SEVEN, EIGHT HOMES THERE.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE STARTING TO MAKE A, A GOOD IMPACT ON THAT COMMUNITY.
SO I, I WOULDN'T WANNA DO THAT.
I WOULDN'T WANNA TAKE, LIKE I SAID, A HOMEOWNER AND, YOU KNOW, JUST PUT 'EM IN ONE AREA.
THEY DON'T KNOW THEIR NEIGHBORS.
THEY HAVE EMPTY LOTS, YOU KNOW, BESIDE THEM.
AND THEN, WELL, THAT'S A BIG PART OF OUR CHARGE IS THE REVITALIZATION.
UH, SO WHEN YOU DO CLUSTERS, I MEAN, THAT'S OKAY.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR GREAT PRESENTATION.
AND IF THERE'S ANY MORE DISCUSSION AMONG US, IT WAS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE A RESOLUTION IN OUR DOCUMENTS.
UM, BUT I, I THINK I'M HEARING AGREEMENT AMONGST THE COMMISSIONERS THAT THIS IS A POSITIVE THING TO DO WITH THOSE LOTS.
I, I WOULD THINK, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT.
I THINK NOW WE PROBABLY JUST NEED TO GET WHAT REQUIREMENTS WE GOING TO PUT ON THE PROPERTY MM-HMM.
SO I DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW WE PROCEED WITH THAT, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE WE PROBABLY NEED TO GO FROM HERE.
AND ONCE WE'VE DONE THAT, THEN WE CAN PRESENT HABITAT, SEE IF THEY ACCEPT.
BUT I THINK IT WOULDN'T BE HARD TO TAKE A FEW MINUTES, JUST DISCUSS THOSE.
UM, I KNOW I, WHAT I HEARD FROM SOME PEOPLE IS TIME WAS A CONSIDERATION, MONEY WAS A CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND IF WE WERE GOING TO DONATE THEM OR SELL THEM, WHAT WOULD OUR, UM, HELP ME WITH THE WORD
WHAT RESTRICTIONS WE WOULD HAVE WITH THE PROPERTIES, IF I MAY.
MADAM CHAIRPERSON, CHAIRWOMAN COMMISSIONER, INTERIM, UH, ACTING, ALL THE THINGS.
UH, WE PROBABLY WANT TO SEE THE FEASIBILITY OF THE SLIVER, OF THE SLIVER PARCEL, UH, SO THAT WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE TO OFFER.
AND THEN DISCUSSION CAN BE HAD, UH, IN EITHER PROJECT GROUPS OR WORK GROUPS, UM, UH, TO, TO DRAFT, UH, TO DRAFT CONDITIONS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
IS, IS THAT APPROPRIATE, UH, MADAM ATTORNEY? ABSOLUTELY.
WE CAN ACCEPT, UM, DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL TONIGHT AND WE CAN, UM, WORK ON A PACKAGE TO PRESENT TO YOU AND YOUR AUGUST MEETING, UM, AND COMMUNICATE WITH HABITAT IN THE INTERIM TO IRON OUT ANY OF THE FINE DETAILS BASED ON THE DIRECTION YOU GIVE US.
WILL WE HAVE TO HAVE THE ALDERMAN APPROVED? THAT'S SLIVER BEING DONATED TO HABITAT? YES, MA'AM.
THE, THE ALDERMAN SINCE, UH, ACTUALLY BOTH THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND CRAVEN COUNTY, THE COMMISSION WOULD NEED TO AGREE TO CONVEY THAT VERY SMALL LOT.
I THINK IT'S 19 BY 98, SINCE THEY OWNED THAT PROPERTY, THEY WOULD NEED TO, UH, PARTICIPATE IN THAT CONVEYANCE.
SO LEAVING THIS MEETING, UM, IS IT APPROPRIATE FOR US TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO WORK ON THAT? OR DO WE HAVE TO HAVE A RESOLUTION TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION? JUST CONSENSUS.
IF YOU HAVE CONSENSUS, YOU GIVE US DIRECTION TO WORK OUT THE DETAILS, I'M SURE.
AND THE ASSISTANT MANAGER IS HERE.
UM, HEARING THIS DIRECTION, WE CAN BEGIN THE PROCESS OF HAVING CONVERSATIONS AND GETTING DOCUMENTS TOGETHER FOR YOUR REVIEW AND APPROVAL AT YOUR NEXT MEETING.
DO WE HAVE CONSENSUS ON THE COMMISSION TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO DO THAT? YES.
AND WORK TOWARDS THAT END OF GETTING THOSE THREE LOTS DONATED.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, ARE THERE ANY PARTICULAR RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO CONTEMPLATE AS WE'RE PULLING DOCUMENTS TOGETHER? ANY COVENANTS, ANYTHING PARTICULAR ASIDE FROM THE NORMAL HABITAT COVENANTS THAT THE CITY GOVERNMENT, COUNTY GOVERNMENT GENERALLY UTILIZE? I JUST, I THINK ONE PROBABLY BE TIME, TIME TIME WOULD BE AN IMPORTANT PIECE AND THAT IT WOULD ALWAYS BE USED FOR, UM, HOUSING FAMILIES.
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OKAY.ANY OTHER COMMENTS FOR THAT? OKAY.
IS THERE ANY OTHER THAT WE HADN'T ASKED? MAY I ASK THIS QUESTION? IS THERE ANY OTHER THAT WE HADN'T ASKED FROM THE TWO EXPERTS HERE, MARVIN, IN THE GALLERY? IS THERE SOMETHING WE'RE MISSING AS FAR AS RESTRICTIONS THAT USUALLY GO IN WHEN THE CITY, UM, ENGAGES IN? THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RESTRICTIONS.
UM, AND I WILL, I'LL GET THE TRANSFER REVERSION AGREEMENT THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST AS Z SO THAT YOU ALL CAN SEE THAT AND CONTEMPLATE IT.
UM, BUT THE, THE ISSUES THAT YOU HAVE DISCUSSED TONIGHT ARE VERY MUCH IN LINE WITH WHAT THE CITY HAS DONE IN THE PAST.
WE'LL MOVE FORWARD WITH YOU WORKING ON THAT FOR US, JAMIE.
[7. Presentation on the purchase of 1101 Main St - PID 8-007-004.]
ITEM IS, UH, PRESENTATION ON THE PURCHASE OF 1101 MAIN STREET.AND FOR THAT PRESENTATION, I BELIEVE, UH, CURTIS STEWART, MR. STEWART, IF YOU'LL COME UP AND LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR PLANS ARE FOR 1101 MAIN STREET.
I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS HAVING ME AND GIVING ME ON YOUR AGENDA.
UH, I PURCHASED A COUPLE PROPERTIES ON MAIN STREET, UH, DEAR TO MY HEART, GROWING UP ON MAIN STREET AS A A CHILD.
UH, I HAVE, UH, TWO PROPERTIES THERE AND RECENTLY ACQUIRED ONE FROM THE CITY, UH, THAT WAS IN FOR DEMOLITION.
AND, UH, I'VE BEEN ABLE TO WORK WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES ALONG WITH THE LOCAL CITY ATTORNEY TO, UH, HAVE AN AGREEMENT, UH, TO FIX THAT PROPERTY.
IT WAS STATED THAT THAT PROPERTY HAD TO BE ELEVATED THROUGH UNDERSTANDING THE RULES AND REGULATIONS FROM FEMA.
I'VE BEEN ABLE TO, EXCUSE ME, UH, I SAW SHARON.
I GOT A LITTLE SHOOK UP UP THERE,
UM, I WAS ABLE TO, UM, TO GO AROUND, UH, AND UNDERSTAND THE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF FEMA, UH, AND NOT HAVE TO LIFT THAT HOUSE, UM, BY, UM, UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE MARKET VALUE IS, UH, THE HOUSE, THE, UM, THE LOT THAT I'M INTERESTED IN PURCHASING IS NEXT TO THAT, UH, THAT HOME THERE, WHICH WAS 8 31 UBANK STREET.
UM, WE'RE TRYING TO GET INTO SOME DEVELOPMENT.
UH, WE HAVE SEVERAL, UH, RENTAL PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE ACQUIRED AND HAVE FIXED THEM UP FOR LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.
UH, BUT MY INTEREST, UH, IS DEVELOPMENT, UH, AND OBVIOUSLY PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS GROUP HERE OVER THE LAST COUPLE YEARS.
I COME IN FROM A PRIVATE STANDPOINT.
I, I HEARD A YOUNG LADY FROM A HABITAT FROM THE NON-PROFIT STANDPOINT, BUT I HAVE A PORTFOLIO FROM A PRIVATE STANDPOINT TO, UH, BE ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT.
UH, I HAVE, UH, SOME OTHER PURCHASE AGREEMENTS, UH, IN THE SAME AREA, UH, THAT I'M INTERESTED IN.
UH, AND SO I'M JUST, UH, INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THAT PROPERTY FOR REDEVELOPMENT, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH EXTENDING WHAT I ALREADY HAVE THERE OR PUTTING ANOTHER STRUCTURE THERE.
UH, I'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH AND UNDERSTAND THAT REDEVELOPMENT IS NOT INTERESTED IN USING THAT.
UH, AND I WOULD, UH, ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE.
AND I JUST WANT, UM, TO, I BELIEVE THIS LOT IS OWNED BY THE CITY.
BUT IT IS WITHIN OUR BOUNDARY, SO THAT'S WHY YOU'RE COMING BEFORE US TONIGHT.
WE WOULD HAVE TO, UM, AUTHORIZE OR RECOMMEND TO THE CITY THAT THEY START THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
AND I'VE OBTAINED ANOTHER PROPERTY IN THE SAME MANNER, HOWEVER, THAT WAS OWNED BY THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, UH, AND HAVE A ACQUIRE THAT THERE ON BROAD STREET.
SO FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THIS IS KIND OF THE SAME PROCESS THAT YOU GUYS USE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. STEWART? AND THIS IS CONNECTION TO PROPERTIES.
YOU ALREADY HAVE THE CONNECTION.
ONE OF THE PROPERTIES I ALREADY HAVE, I HAVE A, I THINK IT'S ABOUT 50 BY 200 FLIGHT.
IT WAS A DUE ON A DEMOLITION ORDER BY THE CITY.
I WAS ABLE TO, UH, PROPERLY ACQUIRE IT FROM THE OWNER AND WENT INTO AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY ON THE TIMEFRAME IN WHICH I WILL, UH, RENOVATE THAT PROPERTY.
THIS PROPERTY CAME UP, UH, AS SOMETHING OF INTEREST BASED ON THE OTHER PROPERTY I HAVE THERE, ALONG WITH ANOTHER PURCHASE AGREEMENT I HAVE FROM AN INDEPENDENT OWNER.
DO YOU PURCHASE TO RENT OR TO RESELL? UH, WELL, YOU KNOW, SO THAT'S AN INTERESTING, UH, I'M, I'M TIRED OF, UH, US LANDLORDING PROPERTIES IS A HEADACHE.
UH, THIS, THIS HERE IS, UH, ACTUALLY MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS MOVING INTO, TO BUILDING REDEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, BUILDING FROM GROUND UP.
SO MY INTEREST IN THIS PARTICULAR LIGHT AND SORT OF WHAT I'M LOOKING AT IN REGARDS TO WHAT I HAVE GOING IS TO BUILD AND TO SELL.
UH, IN FACT, THE, THE, THE OLD, UH, ED FROM, FROM, UH, HABITAT IS HELPING WITH A PH KIND OF A STRATEGY FOR ME TO HELP, UH, BUT HOME BUYERS TO GET FINANCED.
UH, AND SO WE KIND OF ARE PUTTING TOGETHER A HOLISTIC KIND OF SITUATION.
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BUT MY JOB, MY KIND OF JOB NOW IS TO ACQUIRE WHAT I, WHAT I SEE MYSELF DEVELOPING.SO, MADAM CHAIR, DO WE NEED A MOTION FOR THIS TO GO BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL? I MEAN, YEAH.
TO ENDORSE, TO ENDORSE WHAT IS, SO SEVERAL MONTHS, MAYBE A YEAR AGO, YOU ALL ADOPTED A POLICY, UM, GOVERNING HOW INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING CITY COUNTY LOTS MUST INTERACT WITH YOU.
ALL RIGHT? UM, THAT POLICY WAS ADOPTED BEFORE YOU HAD A SELLABLE PROPERTIES LIST.
UM, AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES SINCE THEN.
HOWEVER, THE POLICY THAT YOU'VE ADOPTED IS STILL VERY MUCH IN PLACE.
SO PURSUANT TO THAT POLICY, UM, MR. STEWART'S PRESENTATION WILL BE REFERRED TO THE HOUSING WORK GROUP FOR THEM TO, UM, DO SOME ANALYSIS AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION BACK TO YOU AT YOUR AUGUST MEETING.
UNLESS AND UNTIL YOU CHOOSE TO CHANGE THAT POLICY, CAN'T CHANGE IT RIGHT NOW, SIR.
SO IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING IF, IF THE GROUP WAS IN AGREEANCE TO THAT, SO THAT I DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT STEP, THAT THAT WAS, IT WAS ABLE TO MAKE A MOTION.
IS THAT NOT ACCURATE? THEY HAVE A POLICY THAT THEY'VE ADOPTED.
IF THEY CHOOSE TO CHANGE THAT POLICY, UM, THEN THEY COULD ENACT WHATEVER POLICY THEY CHOOSE TO CHANGE.
I MEAN, THIS IS A NO BREAK THOUGH.
CAN, CAN WE, UH, WHAT'S THE WORD I'M LOOKING FOR? OKAY.
DEFER THE POLICY RIGHT NOW FOR, FOR THIS, UH, ONE TIME DEAL, OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE POLICY PERIOD, WHAT YOU MIGHT DO.
AND, AND MR. WALLACE, YOU INDICATED THAT YOU'VE READ, UM, THE, THE PACKET IN ITS ENTIRETY AND THERE IS A PROPOSED, UM, AMENDMENT TO THE PURCHASING POLICY THAT, THAT I THINK YOU ALL ARE GOING TO DISCUSS LATER TONIGHT.
IT MAY BE THAT IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS AGENDA ITEM UNTIL YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS THOSE POLICIES, THAT MIGHT, UM, BRING US TO A POSITION WHERE WE HAVE SOME CLARITY.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO.
[8. Presentation on the draft of the RDC Rules of Procedure.]
WELL, THAT LEADS US THROUGH OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, I DO BELIEVE.AND THAT IS, UM, THE PRESENTATION OF THE DRAFT OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, RULES OF PROCEDURE.
WE WERE, UM, THAT WAS INCLUDED IN OUR PACKET.
MAYBE NOT TO READ EVERY WORD, BUT AT LEAST LOOKED THROUGH IT.
AND, UM, JAMIE, IF YOU WILL, TAKE OVER AND PRESENT THIS TO US TONIGHT.
BUT IT, IT'D BE MY PLEASURE, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION BEFORE YOU INCLUDED IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE ARE 16 PAGES OF A DOCUMENT, UM, CAPTIONED, I GUESS, RULES OF PROCEDURE.
AND IT HAS BEEN MY ATTEMPT IN COLLABORATION WITH MR. HUFF TO LAY OUT CERTAIN POLICIES AND RULES THAT WILL HELP, UM, STANDARDIZE AND CODIFY CUSTOMS THAT HAVE BEEN IN PLACE AND PERHAPS MAKE THE WAY YOU INTERACT WITH YOURSELVES AND THE PUBLIC, UM, MORE STANDARDIZED SO THAT YOU KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT AS WELL AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF RULES THAT ARE ARTICULATED HERE ABOUT VARIOUS DIFFERENT ITEMS. THE FIRST RULE THAT YOU SEE IS YOUR STATUTORY POWERS, AND WE'VE REVISITED THAT IN A CHART.
UH, BUT NOW WE PUT IT IN RULES OF PROCEDURES SO THAT, UM, EVERYBODY KNOWS IN MULTIPLE PLACES WHAT YOUR POWERS ARE AND, AND ANY CONSTRAINTS AND LIMITATIONS THERE.
ON, UH, WE TALK ABOUT SPECIAL MEETINGS, UM, STANDARDIZING THE WAY THAT WE PUT TOGETHER AGENDAS, HOW MEETINGS ARE RUN, THE ROLE OF THE PRESIDING OFFICER, HAVING SOME CLARITY ABOUT, UM, THE LIMITATIONS OF THAT ROLE.
CLOSED SESSIONS ARE OFTEN LOTS OF QUESTIONS ABOUT WHETHER WE CAN GO INTO CLOSED SESSION ABOUT SOMETHING.
OUR RULES OF PROCEDURE VERY CLEARLY STATE WHAT FOR WHAT PURPOSES WE CAN GO INTO CLOSED SESSION, UM, AND HOW WE DO THAT AND HOW WE COME OUT AMENDING MOTIONS, CONFLICTS OF INTEREST MINUTES, UM, AND WORKING GROUPS.
AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A CONVERSATION LATER IN THE, THE MEETING ABOUT WORKING GROUPS VERSUS PROJECT GROUPS AND THOSE TYPES OF THINGS.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THERE'S A WATERMARK ON THIS DOCUMENT SAYING THAT IT'S A DRAFT.
UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY FOR YOUR ADOPTION TONIGHT.
IT'S FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT, CONSIDER DELIBERATE ABOUT, GIVE US SOME FEEDBACK SO THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE ANY CHANGES THAT YOU THINK ARE PRUDENT.
PERHAPS THERE ARE POLICIES OR NUANCES THAT WE HAVE NOT CONTEMPLATED THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE ADDRESSED.
UM, AND WE CAN TAKE DIRECTION IN THAT REGARD.
THERE ARE SOME APPENDICES, UM, TO THESE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES.
PROTOCOLS FOR PURCHASING PROPERTY OWNED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
UM, I'M NOT GOING TO READ IT TO YOU, BUT ONE NOTABLE DIFFERENCE FROM THE PRE THE EXISTING POLICY IS, UM, YOU WILL NOTICE AROUND
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ABOUT PARAGRAPH FIVE AND SIX WHEN A PERSON WHO'S INTERESTED IN PURCHASING A PROPERTY THAT THIS COMMISSION OWNS, UM, PREVIOUSLY THEY WOULD COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION.THE HOUSING WORK GROUP WOULD THINK ABOUT IT AND WORK ON IT AND COME BACK TO YOU AT THE NEXT MEETING AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND THE APPENDIX THAT IS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT, YOU ALL WOULD HAVE THAT DELIBERATION AND THAT CONVERSATION LIVE IMMEDIATELY FOLLOWING THE PERSON'S PRESENTATION.
SO THE PUR THE PURCHASER WOULD COME UP AND SAY, I'M INTERESTED IN 1 23 MAPLE STREET.
HERE'S EVERYTHING THAT I WANT TO DO.
THE FULL BOARD WOULD HEAR THE PRESENTATION.
THE FULL BOARD WOULD HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT ANY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT ARE NECESSARY.
AND THEY, WHETHER OR NOT THEIR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND AT THAT SAME MEETING, YOU WOULD MAKE A DECISION ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS OR NOT.
UM, WE ARE PROPOSING THAT CHANGE IN THE POLICY BASED ON THE FACT THAT YOU ALL HAVE WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY IN CREATING A SELLABLE PROPERTIES LIST.
AND MUCH OF THAT ANALYSIS ABOUT WHETHER YOU HAVE A USE FOR THE PROPERTY OR WHETHER IT'S LOCATION IS IN LINE WITH YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, THAT ANALYSIS HAS ALREADY TAKEN PLACE.
SO I, WE THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AT THIS JUNCTURE TO PERHAPS STREAMLINE THE PROCESS GIVEN THE WORK THAT YOU'VE ALREADY UNDERTAKEN.
IF YOU CONTINUE FLIPPING YOUR PAGES, YOU WILL SEE, UM, THERE'S ANOTHER, UM, PROTOCOL FOR PURCHASING PROPERTY THAT BEGINS ON PAGE 15.
THAT IS A PROTOCOL FOR PURCHASING CITY AND OR COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
AGAIN, THIS IS A MORE STREAMLINED POLICY, UM, FROM THE EXISTING POLICY WITH THE SAME THINKING IN MIND.
YOU ALL HAVE GONE THROUGH A COMPREHENSIVE LIST OF ALL THE GOVERNMENT OWNED PROPERTIES LOCATED WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AREA BOUNDARY.
YOU HAVEN'T, YOU HAVE, UM, DONE SOME ANALYSIS ABOUT THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE BEST SUITED FOR DEVELOPMENT BY THE COMMISSION VERSUS, VERSUS THOSE PROPERTIES THAT MAY BE BETTER SUITED FOR DEVELOPMENT BY EITHER THE PRIVATE SECTOR OR NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.
SO IN LIGHT OF THOSE DECISIONS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY MADE, UM, THE MOST SIGNIFICANT CHANGE FROM THE EXISTING POLICY, AGAIN, IS AROUND PARAGRAPH FIVE, WHICH IN THIS CASE, UM, THE POTENTIAL BUYER, WHOEVER'S INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING THE PROPERTY FROM THE CITY AND OR COUNTY, WOULD PRESENT THEIR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN TO THE FULL COMMISSION DURING THE MEETING.
AND AT THE CONCLUSION OF THAT, THAT PRESENTATION, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BEING YOUR, YOUR COMMISSIONERS, WOULD DETERMINE WHETHER THE PROPOSED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IS CONSISTENT WITH YOUR ADOPTED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
AND AT THAT JUNCTURE, BASED ON THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, YOU CAN VOTE IN THAT SAME MEETING TO RECOMMEND OR NOT RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN THAT THEY INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
ULTIMATELY, WHETHER THE PROPERTY IS SOLD IS NOT UP TO THE COMMISSION, IT'S UP TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS.
BUT WHATEVER YOUR RECOMMENDATION IS FOR OR AGAINST WOULD BE FORWARDED TO THE GOVERNING BOARDS THEREAFTER.
UM, SO THOSE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THE PURCHASING POLICIES.
BUT GIVEN THE, THE HERCULEAN EFFORT THAT YOU HAVE UNDERTAKEN TO, UM, CATALOG AND ANALYZE THE PROPERTIES, IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO MAKE SOME REVISIONS TO YOUR PURCHASING POLICIES.
UM, SO THAT WAS KIND OF A HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW OF THE RULES AND PROCEDURES AND A LITTLE BIT OF A DEEPER DIVE ON THE PURCHASING POLICIES.
I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.
SOUND CHAIR, IF I MAY? MM-HMM.
ARE WE BINDING OURSELVES TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS WE SIT? NO, SIR.
UM, AT ANY POINT YOU CAN MOVE TO CONTINUE AN AGENDA ITEM AND THAT'S, UM, ARTICULATED IN THE MOTION SECTION, WHICH IS, UH, RULE 15 PROCEDURAL MOTIONS.
SO IF YOU NEED TIME TO, TO UM, DIGEST THE PRESENTATION, IF YOU NEED ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FROM THE APPLICANT OR PROPOSED PURCHASER, YOU CERTAINLY ARE WELL WITHIN YOUR RIGHT TO CONTINUE THE APPLICATION OR CONTINUE THE REQUEST UNTIL YOU'RE SATISFIED.
SO FROM HERE, WE, WE REVIEW THIS AGAIN AND, AND THEN MAKE ANY COMMENTS TO YOU OR INFORMATION THAT WE HAVE? YES, SIR.
IS THAT KIND OF WHAT YOU WAS ASKING AT FIRST, RIGHT? YES SIR.
UH, THIS IS NOT FOR YOUR ADOPTION NECESSARILY TONIGHT.
UM, WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO REVIEW AND DIGEST THESE POLICIES AND IF YOU'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THEM, PLEASE COMMUNICATE THAT TO MR. HUFF.
IF THERE ARE REVISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE, PLEASE COMMUNICATE THAT TO MR. HUFF.
UM, BUT I DO WANT TO JUST PUT IN YOUR HEARING THAT THE APPENDICES TO THIS POLICY WOULD MAKE SOME CHANGES TO THE PURCHASING POLICY, WHICH MAY BE GERMANE TO THE ACTION THAT YOU JUST TOOK REGARDING, UM, THE LAST PRESENTATION FOR THE LAST JULY.
AND SINCE THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING, YOU CAN TAKE ACTION IF YOU WANT TO, BUT YOU CERTAINLY DON'T HAVE TO.
ON THE FORMER AGENDA ITEM OR ON THIS AGENDA ITEM? ON THIS AGENDA ITEM.
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WELL, THE PREVIOUS AGENDA ITEM, YOU HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE, BUT WITH THIS AGENDA ITEM IT'S ON FOR YOUR DISCUSSION.BUT SINCE THIS IS A REGULAR MEETING, IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO TAKE ANY ACTION, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO SO, WHETHER YOU WANT TO ADOPT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE IN HOLD OR IMPART, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, WE COULD ACCEPT THE APPENDICES FOR THE SALE PROCESS FOR EITHER OUR SELLING OUR PROPERTY OR RECOMMENDING TO THE CITY.
AND I DO APPRECIATE YOU SAYING WHY, HOW WE'VE KIND OF COME TELLING THE STORY OF HOW WE'VE COME TO THIS POINT.
CAUSE BEFORE WE, WE DIDN'T EVEN NOT, WE DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHICH, UM, PROPERTIES WE OWNED UNTIL THE CITY AND THE COUNTY CONVEYED THE 10 LOTS TO US.
YOU KNOW, WE ALWAYS HOPED WE DID, BUT WE DIDN'T KNOW.
SO THAT WOULD'VE MADE A DIFFERENCE IN THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT WE HAD.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO HAVE TIME TO REVIEW AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THE SELLING LIST.
SO WE HAD TO GO BACK, CALL THROUGH THE MAP AND SEE IF IT WAS ONE OF THE PROPERTIES WE HAD A PLAN FOR OR NOT.
SO I DO BELIEVE WE HAVE THAT LIST.
AND IT COULD BE A LIVING DOCUMENT AS WELL.
WE COULD ADD PROPERTIES TO IT.
IT VERY MUCH IS A LIVING AT THE POINT IN TIME.
I, I BELIEVE MR. STEWART'S PROPERTY IS NOT ON OUR LIST CUZ WE DON'T OWN IT.
THINK THE SELLABLE PROPERTIES LIST, AND MR. HUFF MAY BE ABLE TO, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, INCLUDES PROPERTIES THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNS AS WELL AS CITY COUNTY OWNED LOTS.
AND I THINK IT'S CALLED THE SELLABLE PROPERTIES LIST BECAUSE AS OPPOSED TO A SURPLUS PROPERTY LIST, BECAUSE WE'RE NOT SAYING THAT THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS DON'T HAVE ANY USE FOR THEM, BUT IT'S AN INVITATION FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC TO MAKE OFFERS TO EITHER THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OR THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS REGARDING THOSE PROPERTIES.
THAT'S, UH, THE, THE COLOR CODING ON THAT LIST, UH, IS, IS INDICATIVE OF WHO THE OWNER IS.
UM, IT'S, YEAH,
AND IT, IF IT'S NOT, IF IT'S ON THE ONES THAT WE STILL HAVE PLANS FOR, THAT'S A WHOLE DIFFERENT THING.
AND I'LL, I'LL DEFER TO MR. HUFF ABOUT WHETHER THIS SPECIFIC PROPERTY, UM, THE MAIN STREET PROPERTY THAT MR. STEWART PRESENTED ABOUT, WHETHER THAT'S ON THE SALEABLE PROPERTY LIST.
COMMISSION, ANY ACTION TO TAKE AT THIS POINT IN TIME? WOULD YOU LIKE TO CONSIDER THESE THINGS, DIGEST IT AND COME BACK? THAT'S MY RECOLLECTION.
ANYBODY'S NODDING THEIR HEAD IN THAT WAY.
THIS IS THE, LIKE THIS IS, WE GOT THIS GUY THAT SAID THIS, THIS DOCUMENT WAS, THAT'S PRETTY MUCH LAW, RIGHT? SO ANYTHING THAT, NO SIR.
WE, IF WE ADOPTED IT BECOMES OUR RULES.
BUT YOU HAVEN'T ADOPTED IT YET.
SO THIS IS A PROPOSAL AND IT DOESN'T BECOME ENACTED UNTIL YOU ALL DECIDE, OR A MAJORITY OF YOU DECIDE THAT YOU WANT TO ADOPT THESE AS YOUR RULES.
OKAY? IF WE DON'T ADOPT IT, WE'RE HELD BY PRIOR POLICY, CORRECT? YES SIR.
AND IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO ADOPT THE APPENDICES BUT NOT THE FULL RULES OF PROCEDURE, YOU CERTAINLY CAN DO THAT THIS EVENING.
IF A MAJORITY OF YOU WANT TO DO THAT.
IF I SAY DIGEST, WHAT'D YOU THINK? NODDING YOUR HEADS.
UM, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
SARAH? ANYBODY? OKAY THINKING SARAH.
SO WE APPRECIATE THE EFFORT OF STAFF TO PUT THIS DRAFT TOGETHER.
IT LOOKS PRETTY, UM, VERY THOROUGH.
AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS THERE.
[9. Consider adopting a resolution approving the demolition of homes on West A Street including any required asbestos testing.]
UM, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WAS TO BE PRESENTED BY COMMISSIONER PERGO, WHO IS NOT HERE.UM, IT IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION APPROVING THE DEMOLITION OF HOMES ON WEST A STREET, INCLUDING THE REQUIRED ASBESTOS TESTING.
AND AT THIS IS NOT NEW INFORMATION.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS AT SEVERAL MEETINGS.
CAUSE THERE WAS CONCERN, UM, I'M NOT SURE WHICH PROPERTY SPECIFICALLY.
WE WEREN'T SURE IF THE PROPERTY WAS, THE HOUSE WAS ON THE PROPERTY OR SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY.
SO THESE ARE PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN THAT WERE GIVEN TO US FROM THE CITY SLASH COUNTY.
AND, UM, IN OUR AGENDA PACKET, YOU CAN SEE THE PRICE IS THERE.
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$7,205, $4,312.AND THEN HOUSING, I MEAN, ASBESTOS PER HOUSE IS ABOUT $500.
SO, UM, I BELIEVE WE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE VALUE OF DEMOLISHING THESE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR DEVELOPMENT PLANS.
AND TONIGHT IS THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS ALSO IN OUR PACKET TO APPROVE THAT THE MONEY BE SPENT THAT WAY TO DEMOLISH THEM AND DO ASBESTOS.
SO IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE STILL CONCERNED ABOUT THESE? THEY CAN'T BE FIXED.
I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY CAN'T BE FIXED.
IS IT WORTH IT? IS IT WORTH IT? COST PROHIBITIVE? HAVE YOU SEEN, YOU HAVEN'T SEEN IT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT WORTH, THERE'S ONE OF THEM THAT IS NO WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM EVEN WORTH CONSIDERING.
AND THEN THE THIRD, YOU'RE GONNA SPEND A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN YOU WOULD.
PLUS THE WHOLE CONCEPT OF US ACCEPTING THOSE PROPERTIES ON THE FRONT END WERE TO BE ABLE TO REDEVELOP.
AND THE, THE PLAN AS WE INITIALLY KIND OF WORKED OUR WAY THROUGH WAS TO BUILD MULTIPLE HOUSES THAT BETTER FIT THE PROPERTIES TO ALLOW FOR MORE RESIDENCES TO GO IN THERE.
AND THIS DOES DEVELOP, UM, THIS DOES LEND ITSELF TO THAT STRING OF 10 LOTS THAT WOULD BE OPEN AND AVAILABLE FOR A DEVELOPER TO COME AND BUILD.
WE ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WOULD BE MORE ATTRACTIVE FOR SOME, A PRIVATE DEVELOPER TO TAKE A, YOU KNOW, A CHUNK OF LAND LIKE THAT AND DEVELOP MULTIPLE PROPERTIES.
AND THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT HABITAT.
A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WANT BIG PIECES TO DO.
BIGGER PROJECTS AND MULTIPLE HOUSES.
THAT WAS A NEW CONCEPT FOR ME HERE IN, UM, THE HABITAT PRESENTATION THAT THEY LIKE TO DO THE CLUSTER OF HOUSES.
BUT THAT THIS WOULD ALLOW THAT IN THAT AREA AS WELL.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION.
UM, DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR THAT.
OR, I'M SORRY, MR. STRIP, DO YOU NEED FULL LANGUAGE ON WHAT WE'RE ADOPTING OR JUST A MOTION IS I'D LIKE THE MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION PROVEN DEMOLITION OF HOMES ON WEST A STREET, INCLUDING ANY REQUIRED ASBESTOS TESTING.
AND DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR THAT, OR JUST A ROLL CALL PLEASE.
WAS THERE SOME CONCERNS YOU DIDN'T VOICE BEFORE YOU VOTED? THAT'S WHAT I JUST ASKED.
HUH? I JUST HAVE, I MEAN, WE DON'T VOTE NOTHING, BUT I'M JUST YEAH, I MEAN, I JUST ASKED SOME CONCERNS.
I I, I DIDN'T VOICE MY CONCERN.
DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING BEFORE WHEN WE THROW DOWN TO THE GOD HOUSE.
THAT HOUSE COULD HAVE BEEN REHABBED.
YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? YEAH, I UNDERSTAND.
SO THAT, SO I'M, I'M, I'M, I'M ON EDGE WHEN WE GO TEAR DOWN HOUSES BECAUSE OF THAT PARTICULAR SITUATION.
SO I, I KIND OF QUESTION WHEN WE TEAR DOWN HOUSES IN THIS AREA, BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES TORN DOWN OVER THERE.
IF YOU JUST RIDE THROUGH, YOU CAN SEE.
BUT I, BUT, AND I WAS GOING ON TO VOTE CAUSE HE WAS SAYING THAT WHEN YOU PURCHASE THE PROPERTY, THAT WAS THE IDEA FOR PURCHASING.
BUT I SAID GOT, I KEEP COMING.
I KNOW JUST BECAUSE YOU SAID THE HOUSE IS CAN BE TEARING DOWN.
I'M STILL THINKING THAT I COULD GO BY AND LOOK AT THIS HOUSE AND SEE IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT, THAT CAN BE RECEPTION.
SO THAT'S WHY I KIND OF HESITATE.
BUT I MEAN, BUT I MEAN, I, I'M TYLER HOUSE HAS BEEN TORN DOWN AND NOT BEING, I VALUE THE INPUT, THE EXPERTISE OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
SO I, I VOTED FOR HIM CAUSE I, AGAIN, I, I I BELIEVE EXPERTISE.
SO HE SAID HE'S COME DOWN TO AND CHAIR IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK ONE OR MORE OF THESE STRUCTURES CAUGHT ON FIRE.
UM, AND WAS EITHER PARTIALLY OR SUBSTANTIALLY BURNED.
AND THE OTHER ONE BECAUSE OF ITS PROXIMITY HAS BEGUN TO MELT.
AS A RESULT OF THE HEAT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN.
UM, SO THESE HOMES WERE IN A, A TERRIBLE STATE OF DILAPIDATION AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO RIDE BY AND, AND LOOK AT THEM.
IT DIDN'T HAVE ME IN ION, I'M SORRY.
IF THIS WOULD BE HELPFUL, I CAN SEND YOU, UH, THE ACTUAL PHOTOGRAPHS AND, AND WHERE I'M A VISUAL PERSON, I NEED TO GO FIND IS THIS THE ONE NEXT TO THE GRAVEYARD THAT WE SAW BIRD LAST YEAR? YES.
I KNOW, KNOW WHICH ONE IT IS NOW.
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OKAY.I'M GLAD YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE IF IT HELPS SOMEBODY HAS REMOVED MOST OF THE ROOF ON ONE OF THEM FOR US, PRESUMABLY FOR SCRAP METAL PURPOSES.
AND I BELIEVE SOMEONE CAME BEFORE THE COMMISSION SEVERAL MONTHS AGO AND ASKED US IF WE COULD DEMOLISH THESE HOUSES.
CAUSE THEY FELT THEY WERE DANGEROUS.
YEAH, THERE'S A GENTLEMAN AND HIS WIFE THAT ARE HERE ALL THE TIME THAT ARE AROUND THE CORNER FROM THAT.
[10. Consider adopting a resolution adding properties owned by the Redevelopment Commission to the existing Property & Liability policy.]
ALL RIGHT.WELL THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM, UM, IS ALSO ONE THAT WAS MR. PARA'S PRESENTATION AND IT WAS CONSIDERED ADOPTING RESOLUTION, ADDING PROPERTIES OWNED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO THE EXISTING PROPERTY AND LIABILITY POLICY.
AND I BELIEVE THAT THE PROPERTIES, AND THIS WAS, WOULD BE ADDING THEM TO, UM, WE WOULD NEED THE INSURANCE COMPANY, THE SIA GROUP, TO PUT TOGETHER A PROPOSAL TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION.
IS, IS THAT CORRECT? ARE THESE UM, PROPERTIES? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND I BELIEVE THE PROPERTIES ARE THE ONES THAT ARE LIKE THE NINE 11 UBANKS HOUSE, WHICH IS A HOUSE THAT WE OWN THAT IS SITTING THERE UNOCCUPIED AT THIS POINT IN TIME.
AND THEN IT WOULD MOVE INTO THE JONES PROPERTIES AS THEY'RE BEING DEVELOPED MM-HMM.
THAT IS, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.
BUT I'M SORRY I DON'T SOUND LIKE I'M A HUNDRED PERCENT, BUT IT WAS LIKE I SAID, SOMEONE ELSE TO PRESENT TONIGHT MM-HMM.
STEVE, WHAT? NO, I GUESS MY ONLY QUESTION IS WHAT, WHAT PROCESS DO WE NEED TO GO FORWARD TO EXPEDITE THIS? IS THERE ANY, CAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A FULL LIST YET.
SO RIGHT THERE, THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL COSTS, BUT BASICALLY THE SIA GROUP WILL, WILL NEED TO GIVE US QUOTES AND, AND I CAN PURSUE THAT AND I CAN PRESENT IT TO THE COMMISSION AT OUR NEXT MEETING.
UM, MR. HUFF, WOULD YOU ADD OTHER PROPERTIES TO IT? DO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S ALL THE ONES WE OWN OR JUST THE ONES WITH BUILT STRUCTURES ON IT? UH, THE PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION AND UH, MARVIN IF YOU WANNA HELP ME OUT, UH, BUT THE PRELIMINARY YEAH.
YEAH, IT WOULD BE ALL OF THEM.
SO, SO THAT ALL OF THEM ARE INSURED AND, AND, AND WE'RE COVERED FOR LIABILITY'S SAKE.
SO THAT'S, THAT'S EVEN VACANT LOTS TOO.
JUST THE ONES WE OWN THOUGH, SO.
IF YOU GIMME DIRECTION, I CAN GIVE THE AA GROUP TO GIVE US A QUOTE FOR WHATEVER YOU ASK FOR.
SO, SO THIS RESOLUTION IS TO AUTHORIZE STAFF TO DO THAT? THAT'S CORRECT.
I, I THINK THE RESOLUTION AS IT'S WRITTEN IS TO GO AHEAD AND ADD THEM TO THE POLICY.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE GIVING STAFF DIRECTION TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME QUOTES AND ESTIMATES AND FIGURES, YOU CAN GET THAT DIRECTION BUT WOULD TABLE THIS AGENDA ITEM UNTIL YOUR NEXT MEETING SO WE WOULDN'T SIGN THE RESOLUTION.
SO CAN WE SAY, CUZ I THINK WE WOULD ONLY WANT THE ONES WITH STRUCTURES TO HAVE PROPERTY INSURANCE.
WE WOULD WANT THE OTHER, WE WOULD WANT ALL OF THEM TO HAVE LIABILITY.
SO IF SOMEBODY GOES ON OUR PROPERTY AND SHOOTS SOMEBODY, WE'RE COVERED IF THEY SUE US, BUT THE ONLY THE ONES WITH BUILDINGS SHOULD HAVE PROPERTY.
SO CAN WE SAY WE ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION, LIKE CLARIFYING THAT POINT AND THEN THAT YOU CAN GO AHEAD WITH THE CONTRACT WITH IF IT'S UNDER X DOLLARS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO KIND OF A BUDGETARY, LIKE MAYBE Y'ALL KNOW THAT BETTER THAN ME, BUT IS THERE A NUMBER WHERE YOU'D BE COMFORTABLE WITH SAYING JUST GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE IT? OR DO WE EVEN KNOW, DO WE HAVE ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THAT WOULD COST? UH, I'M, I'M, I'M OME TO APPROVE SOMETHING WITHOUT HAVING THE SLIGHTEST CLUE OF, OF HOW THINGS SHAKE OUT.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO I GUESS THE MATTER TO CONSIDER OF THE, THE, THE QUOTES THAT WILL COME FROM VARIOUS PEOPLE.
I'M, I'M NOT ONE TO GENERALLY JUST SAY I'M GONNA TAKE THE LOWEST ONE AND REMOVE IT WITHOUT EVALUATING ALL THE OTHER DETAILS THAT ARE ROLLING INTO IT.
SO WE, SO WE, WE WILL WANT HIM TO COME OUT WE DIRECTION.
NOW I DO APPRECIATE THE, AND ECHO THE COMMENTS OF ENSURE THE STRUCTURES AND THE LIABILITY ON THE DIRT.
SO RATHER THAN, UM, ADOPTING A RESOLUTION AT THIS POINT IN TIME, MAYBE WE'RE JUST GIVING STAFF DIRECTION TO RECEIVE THE QUOTES.
AND WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED.
PROPERTY INSURANCE ON THE, THE BUILDINGS AND LIABILITY ON THE EMPTY LOTS.
AND A BUDGET, OUR BUDGET AND UPDATED BUDGET SO WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN AFFORD IT.
MAKE SURE WE CAN WE, TOMMY, WE BROKE
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EVERYTHING WE DO, WE NEED TO REALLY LOOK AT THAT BUDGET.SO IN, IN LIGHT OF THAT DIRECTION, I THINK THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR THAT DIRECTION OF SEEING IT'S NOT.
I THEN Y'ALL NODDING IN AGREEMENT WITH EACH OTHER OR WITH US CONSENSUS TO DO THAT.
THERE'S CONSENSUS FOR THAT DIRECTION.
SO YOU MIGHT, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO TABLE AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 10 TO THE AUGUST MEETING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO TABLE THIS AGENDA ITEM TO THE AUGUST MEETING.
UM, IF I COULD JUST MAKE A DISCU FOR DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GET ON THAT PATH IN MOTION.
UM, IF THIS INFORMATION CAN BE GATHERED QUICKLY JUST FOR THE SAKE OF, UH, CY AND A, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WAY OF SAYING IT, COULD A VERY QUICK MEETING NOT BE CALLED VIRTUALLY IF THE, IF YOU CAN GET A QUOTE NEXT WEEK FOR US TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS AS OPPOSED TO WAITING ANOTHER MONTH? NO SIR.
YOU COULDN'T DO A VIRTUAL MEETING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ALLOW YOU TO DO SO WITH A INA A SPECIAL CALL.
YOU CAN DO A SPECIAL MEETING BUT IT CANNOT BE A VIRTUAL MEETING.
WE MUST BE IN PERSON TO ACT AS AS THIS COMMISSION.
UNLESS WE UH, UNLESS WE MAKE ALLOWANCE FOR, FOR I'LL BE IN ALABAMA NEXT WEEK.
SO WE WAIT FOR WE DON'T HAVE ALL I'M SORRY, WE MADE A MOTION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND TO TABLE IT.
ARE WE DONE WITH DISCUSSION? WE WANT TO.
THAT'S A GOOD POINT TO BRING UP.
UM, CAN WE GET A VOTE FOR THAT RESOLUTION? AYE.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? CAN WE DO AN AYE AN I YOU CAN DO A VOICE.
UM, ALL ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT SAY AYE.
SO WE WILL TABLE THAT UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.
[11. Conduct discussion on the need for a strategic planning session, set a date and who will lead the session.]
UM, THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE NEED, UM, OF A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.UM, THIS IS, UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR ABOUT FIVE YEARS NOW AND WE HAD A VERY PRODUCTIVE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, UH, SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
THE ONE THAT WE ATTEMPTED TO HAVE LAST YEAR, UH, DID NOT COME TO FRUITION.
SO WE NEED, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT THE, UM, HAVING ANOTHER STRATEGIC PLANNING WORK SESSION TO KIND OF REDEFINE OUR GOALS, OUR PRIORITIES.
I THINK IT WOULD HELP US WITH SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING.
UM, AS PEOPLE ARE COMING BEFORE US TO, UM, BUY PROPERTIES, WE, WE WILL ALL BE ON THE SAME PAGE.
WE HAVE NEW MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION SINCE WE HAD OUR LAST STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.
UM, I THINK WHAT IS A GOOD DISCUSSION TO HAVE IS YOU SEE THE VALUE IN THAT.
UM, WHAT KIND OF TIMEFRAME ARE PEOPLE AVAILABLE AND WILLING TO COMMIT TO? WOULD IT BE AN EVENING, A WEEKEND DAY? MOST OF US WORK FULL TIME AND THAT WOULD NOT BE VERY PRODUCTIVE TO HAVE IT DURING THE DAY ON A WEEKDAY.
UM, SO YEAH, I SEE THE HEAD NODDING THOUGH, AND WEEKEND, AND I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM LAST TIME IS IT REALLY DOES TAKE COMMITMENT TO GO, I'M GONNA SPEND FOUR HOURS ON A SATURDAY MORNING DOING THIS, OR I'M GONNA BE THERE FROM FIVE TILL NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT ONE NIGHT.
UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE I HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN ON THIS COMMISSION FOR FIVE YEARS.
I FEEL LIKE IT'S A VALUABLE WAY TO SPEND OUR TIME.
UM, SO IT, IT'S MORE LIKE SOMETHING WE FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE, UM, SHARING OUR IDEAS IN A FRESH WAY, ESPECIALLY NEW COMMISSIONERS.
I THINK IT'S A VALUABLE THING FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE AN EQUAL SAY IN WHAT'S GOING ON.
I SEE HEADS NOT AN IN CONSENSUS NOW YOU GOTTA SET DATE.
WELL, AND WE DON'T, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO, BUT LET'S, IT WOULD BE VALUABLE.
CAN WE DO SOMETHING WITH STAFF WHERE YOU HAVE ONE OF THOSE, I FORGET WHAT THEY'RE CALLED, LIKE A DOODLE POLL DOODLE, YEAH.
OR SOMETHING THAT YOU SEND OUT AND PEOPLE LET YOU KNOW WHAT THEIR TOP THREE CHOICES ARE.
YOU KNOW, I CERTAINLY CAN, UH, SEND THAT UP, UH, IN THIS WEEK.
I MEAN, ISN'T IT A CONSENSUS ON SATURDAY? WE CAN'T DO IT ON THE WEEKDAY.
WE DON'T WANNA BE HERE UNTIL NINE O'CLOCK AT NIGHT.
SATURDAY MORNING I WORK SEVEN DAYS A WEEK.
SATURDAY MORNING, EIGHT 30, WE'RE DONE BY 1230.
WELL IS THAT, YOU KNOW, AND UNFORTUNATELY THEN YOU'D HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, TAKE TIME OFF TO DO THIS FUN STRATEGIC PLAN.
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I THINK THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I WOULD LOVE, THIS IS NOT MY FORTE, BUT WE, I LIKED THE FACILITATOR THAT WE HAD LAST TIME.
HER, I THINK HER NAME WAS TARA KENTON AND SHE IS WITH URBAN STRATEGIES GROUP.
UM, SHE DID THE VERY FIRST ONE WE DID AND WE NEVER HAD THE SECOND ONE.
SO, UM, IF ANYBODY HAS ANY IDEAS, I'M GONNA SAY ALSO, IF YOU KNOW SOMEBODY WHO IS, UH, URBAN DEVELOPMENT SPECIALIST AND A FACILITATOR HAS THAT SKILLSET, UM, IF YOU WEREN'T ON THE COMMISSION TO BORROW, WE VOTE FOR YOU.
CAUSE SHE HAVE THAT SKILLSET
YOU JUST NEED HIM FOR ONE SATURDAY SO HE DON'T HAVE TO GIVE, DIDN'T WE PAY SOMEBODY? WHAT ABOUT WHAT WE PAID THEM? ARE THEY NOT AVAILABLE TO COME BACK? I FEEL LIKE WE PAID SOMEBODY $900 IN THE, FOR THE LAST, LIKE WE GOT AN AGENDA FOR OUR STRATEGIC STRATEGIC PLANNING IN FEBRUARY AND ALREADY PAID THEM.
SO ARE THEY NOT COMING BACK? THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
I I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
I HAVE TO DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT TO SEE IF THAT PERSON WOULD BE AVAILABLE AND WILLING TO, AND WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT DOCUMENT AND THAT MONEY IF WE, I MEAN, SHOULD WE CONSIDER USING IT? UH, TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE FACILITATOR ACTUALLY DID COME AND AS SUCH WAS PAID FOR THE FACT THAT THEY CAME, BUT NO ONE ELSE, UH, CAME TO THE SESSION, SO, OH, NO, I WAS SITTING OUT THERE IN THE PARKING LOT BY MYSELF.
DIDN'T KNOW ANYBODY ELSE WAS NOT COMING, SO, YEAH.
I CAN DEFINITELY CONTACT THAT INDIVIDUAL AND SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN COMING BACK, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WE CAN RECOUP THAT, THAT $900.
IF I SHOW UP, I'M GETTING MY MONEY.
IF WE GOT A FACILITATOR WHO DOES THIS, IS IT POSSIBLE TO FIND SOMEONE IN ANOTHER CITY THAT IS REALLY DOING THE MM-HMM.
I MEAN, WHAT ARE SOME PITFALLS? WHAT ARE SOME GOOD THINGS, RIGHT? YEAH.
AND THAT PERSON ONLY NEED TO MAYBE SPEND AN HOUR.
THIS IS WHERE WE WERE, THIS IS WHERE WE STARTED.
THIS IS WHERE WE ARE WITHOUT REDEVELOPMENT.
GIVE US SOME FACTS AND FIGURES SOME NUMBERS OF WHAT THEY DID AND HOW THEY DID IT, AND LET FACILITATE IT.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA.
I SEE YOU TAKING NOTES OVER THERE, MR. HUFF.
AND ANY OTHER IDEAS OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE VALUABLE TO TALK TO OR, YOU KNOW, POTENTIALLY CITY OFFICIALS? YOU KNOW, IT WAS HELPFUL FOR US TO HAVE THESE SIT DOWN SESSIONS WITH MAYOR AND THE CITY MANAGER RECENTLY.
SO, UM, I PUT US OVER THE HUMP YES.
TO BE INVOLVED MIGHT, MAYBE NOT FOR THE WHOLE THING, BUT AS A, AS A PART OF THE, THE FOUR HOURS OR, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE FOUR HOURS IF WE CAN GET IT DONE IN JURY, BUT THE COMMISSION HAVE ANY INTEREST IN THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT COMING IN, PRESENTING AGAIN? UH, UH, IF THEY SPECIALIZE IN REDEVELOPMENT.
I MEAN, I, I DON'T PERSONALLY, I DON'T WANT SOMEBODY JUST COME IN AND SAY, WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY, I WANT TO KNOW WHAT REDEVELOPMENT AROUND THE STATE IS DOING.
WHAT CITIES HAVE HAD SUCCESS, SUCCESS WITH THAT.
IF WE'RE GONNA SPEND THREE, FOUR HOURS, WE NEED THE REAL STUFF.
WE NEED TO MAKE FILE AND I'M, I'M
[12. Conduct discussion on the need to elect a chair and vice chair at the August meeting. Establish the process to be followed.]
THINKING THAT, UM, OUR NEXTO AGENDA ITEM IS ABOUT SETTING, UH, PROTOCOL AND THE NEED FOR, UH, CHAIRMAN VICE CHAIR.SO I'M THINKING THAT THIS STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WOULD HAPPEN AFTER THAT HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED.
SO MAYBE IN IN THE EARLY FALL, SEPTEMBER TIMEFRAME WOULD BE GOOD.
UM, AUGUST IS WHEN WE ARE SCHEDULED TO HAVE, UH, NEW CHAIR, NEW VICE CHAIR.
AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE RETREAT AFTER THAT.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S FINE.
ANY OTHER LOOK LIKE YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? COMMISSIONER BRYANT
UM, YOU BETTER GET THOSE DATES TO ME ASAP
UM, THAT'S WHEN WE GO OUT AND DO A LOT OF OUTREACH IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO GET THOSE DATES TO ME ASAP.
ANY OTHER CONCERNS OR IDEAS TO SHARE? THANK YOU GUYS FOR, UM, PROVIDING THAT INFORMATION.
I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA TO HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLAN
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AND WE'RE HAPPY THAT YOU'RE GONNA BE WORKING ON THAT.UM, THE NEXT THING IN THE ITEM IS THAT WHAT I ALREADY MENTIONED, THAT THE CHAIR OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS, UM, RECENTLY VACANT.
AND WE REALLY NEED TO HAVE THIS SEAT FILLED AND THEN THE VICE CHAIR COMES AFTER THAT.
UM, WHEN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS STARTED, WE ELECTED THOSE POSITIONS IN AUGUST.
SO AT A RECENT MEETING, WE ALL VOTED TO REELECT THOSE POSITIONS IN AUGUST.
AND THAT WILL BE OUR NEXT MEETING.
NOW THIS, UM, AGENDA ITEM IS ASKING FOR, I'M, I'M THINKING DISCUSSION ON HOW THE BEST WAY TO ESTABLISH THAT PROCESS AND, AND HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THAT.
HOW WE'RE GOING TO ELECT, UM, CHAIR AND A VICE CHAIR OUT OF THOSE OF US WHO ARE ALREADY ON THE COMMISSION.
DOES WE HAVE IDEAS TO SHARE? I GOT A GREAT, NOT MR. WALLACE.
PROBABLY ONE OF THE BEST IDEAS
YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M THINKING BECAUSE I'M JUST THINKING OUT LOUD HERE.
WHEN WE COME TOGETHER AGAIN, IS IT GOING TO, IS IT THE BEST THING TO GO, OH, I NOMINATE YOU, I NOMINATE YOU.
OR IS IT A, A BETTER THING TO HAVE THESE IDEAS AND BRING ONE NAME TO THE TABLE? WELL SHARE THEM AMONGST OURSELVES.
CAN WE DO THAT? DO WE RUN INTO PROBLEMS WITH THE QUORUM OR DO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH, YOU KNOW, OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO SAY WE HAVE IDEAS OF PEOPLE WHAT YOU, WHAT YOU COULD DO IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO MAKE NOMINATIONS OUTSIDE OF THE MEETING, YOU CAN SEND AN EMAIL TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WITH THOSE NOMINATIONS IF THAT'S THE PROCESS YOU WANNA DO.
AND THEN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, INTERIM DIRECTOR CAN BRING A, A BALLOT, UM, BACK TO YOU AT THE AUGUST MEETING FOR CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR AND YOU CAN SELECT, YOU CAN VOTE BASED ON THOSE BALLOTS.
THOSE BALLOTS ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS, SO YOU KNOW, THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC.
UM, BUT THAT IS CERTAINLY A PROCESS YOU COULD UTILIZE.
AND THAT'S THE PROCESS YOU COULD UTILIZE IS IF YOU WANT TO COME TO THE MEETING IN AUGUST PREPARED WITH, UM, A NOMINATION OR TWO IN MIND, YOU CAN COLLECT ALL THE NOMINATIONS VOCALLY FIRST AND THEN YOU CAN, UM, PROCEED WITH ELECTIONS AFTER ALL THE NOMINATIONS ARE ON THE TABLE FOR THE VARIOUS DIFFERENT OFFICERS.
OR WE CAN IN A MEETING NOMINATE, ASK IF THERE'S ANY NOMINATIONS, OTHER NOMINATIONS, BUT DIDN'T VOTE RIGHT LIKE WE DID WHEN WE NAMED THE LAST OFFICER.
THAT WAS AT THE MEETING AT THAT TIME.
AND THAT VOTED AND WE WENT ON.
SO WHAT YOU'RE SUGGESTING IS AT THE MEETING TAKE KIND OF JAMIE'S SECOND OPTION, TAKE THE NOMINATIONS AT THE MEETING AND THEN EVERYONE VOTE AT THE MEETING.
BEST WAY TO, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? SHARON'S STILL HOT.
SO SHE'S LIKE, SHE READY TO GO.
WHAT'S DISTRICT? YOU LOOK LIKE YOU'RE PONDING DOWN THERE.
UM, I'M TAKING IN THE CONVERSATION TAKING DAY.
CAUSE THE, THE ONLY DOWNSIDE WITH WALKING IN IS IT TAKES TOO MUCH TIME.
WELL IT, IT TAKES ADDITIONAL TIME AND YOU DON'T KNOW IF THE PERSON YOU'RE GONNA NOMINATE IS GONNA BE WILLING TO ACCEPT IT OR NOT.
SO IF YOU WALK IN WITH THAT PLAN AND THEY SAY NO, THEN WHAT'S NEXT? WHAT DO YOU DO NEXT? I LIKE THE IDEA OF SENDING IT TO THE, IF YOU SEND IT TO MR. HUFF AND MR. HUFF CAN THEN APPROACH ANYBODY THAT IS NOMINATED AND SAY, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO CONSIDER GOOD IDEA.
I'VE SEEN IT SO THAT, THAT WAY THERE'S SOME LEVEL OF KNOWLEDGE WALKING IN.
AND IF IT COMES TO A POINT THAT MR. UP HAS TO SEND ALL OF US AN EMAIL THE WEEK BEFORE THE MEETING AND SAY, GUYS, NOBODY'S WILLING TO ACCEPT THESE POSITIONS THEN TO BE TERRIBLE OR TELL US EVERYBODY AGREES THAT WE NEED TO GET THIS PERSON OR THAT PERSON.
SO THAT, THAT, THAT'S MY ONLY WORRY WITH WALKING IN HERE FLAT FOOTED.
UM, CAUSE I KNOW THE, THE ARM TWISTING THAT TO TAKE PLACE BEFORE VERBALLY AND IN THE SPIRIT OF TRANSPARENCY THAT'S NOT REAL TRANSPARENT.
SO WE'VE KIND OF FLIP FLOPPED BACK TO THE OTHER WAY NOW.
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I, I'M JUST WONDER COMMISSIONER BARKER, YOU SEEM TO FEEL LIKE THAT WAS A I STANDARD, LIKE THE FIRST ONE, IT WAS STANDARD ON OTHER NONPROFIT BOARDS I'VE BEEN ON WERE KIND OF NAMES WERE SUBMITTED, YOU KNOW, VIA EMAIL TO ONE PERSON AND THEN THEY REACHED OUT AND SAID, ARE YOU WILLING OR LET ME TWIST YOUR ARM AND TELL YOU WHY YOU SHOULD OR WHATEVER.AND THEN I THINK THEY EMAILED LIKE THE LIST OF HERE'S FOR EACH, I MEAN THERE WERE LIKE FOUR POSITIONS BUT WE GOT NOTIFIED AHEAD OF THE MEETING.
AND JUST TO REITERATE, YOU'RE A PUBLIC BODY, UM, SO THAT ANY OF THE EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MR. HUFF AND YOURSELVES ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BUSINESS ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS.
UM, SO INCLUDING THOSE BALLOTS, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY'S AWARE OF THAT.
NOW YOU SEE WHY I DON'T APPLY, RIGHT? MM-HMM.
SO MOVING TOWARD WHERE, UM, THINKING THAT THE BEST PROCESS IS TO SHARE NOMINATIONS WITH OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND HAVE HIM PRESENT US WITH THE BALLOT FOR OUR AUGUST MEETING ALONG WITH WHAT SUSAN SAID, THAT CONTACT THAT PERSON AND SAID, LOOK, YOUR NAME CAME UP FIVE TIMES, ARE YOU INTERESTED? YEAH.
LIKE IF THE PERSON DENIED, WELL THAT'S EITHER COVERS FAR SAYING YOU DON'T WANNA GET SOMEBODY SAID, NO, WE DON'T NEED TO HAVE A RESOLUTION ON THAT.
WE JUST GIVEN STAFF DIRECTION.
ONE THING THAT YOU MIGHT ALSO WANT TO INCLUDE IN THAT DIRECTION IS A DEADLINE FOR NOMINATIONS TO BE RECEIVED BY EXCELLENT BY MR. HUFF.
UM, AND JUST TO CLARIFY, THOSE NOMINATIONS WOULD BE FOR BOTH CHAIR AND VICE CHAIR MM-HMM.
AND IS IT THE CONSENSUS OF THE COMMISSION THAT THOSE INDIVIDUALS WILL SERVE FOR ONE YEAR? OR WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION IN IN LIGHT OF THE, THE EXPIRING TERMS? I WOULD BE INCLINED TO SAY ONE YEAR.
CAUSE I MEAN THERE'S GONNA BE A MM-HMM.
SO YOU DON'T WANNA THAT, THAT WOULD FACTOR INTO THE DECISION MAKING IF YOU'RE LOOKING PAST A YEAR.
UM, AS TO A TIMELINE, AS WE SIT HERE ON THE 12TH, MR. HUFFMAN, IMAGINE YOU COULD GET AN EMAIL OUT BY THE 14TH WITH A DEADLINE SAYING GET YOU AN ANSWER BACK BY THE 21ST.
THAT WOULD GIVE YOU THE 24TH THROUGH THE 28TH TO EVALUATE AND OR TWIST ARMS
WHAT DAY IS OUR NEXT MEETING DATE? UH, IT WOULD BE THE NINTH, I BELIEVE.
SO CAN YOU SAY AGAIN WHAT DAY YOU SAID WOULD BE A GOOD DAY? HAVE MONDAY? UH, YEAH.
MR. HUFF REACH OUT TO ALL OF US WITH A, JUST A, HEY REMINDER TO SEND ME YOUR NOMINATIONS AND HE, HE SENT THAT EMAIL BY THE 14TH WITH A DUE DATE.
RESPOND BACK TO HIM OF THE 21ST AND THEN HE CAN TABULATE AND GAUGE INTEREST LEADING UP TO THE 28TH.
AND I DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING QUEUED UP AND READY TO GO.
WELL IN ADVANCE OF AN AGENDA BEING PUBLISHED.
I WAS LOOKING THIS WAY FOR A ONE YEAR, UM, TERM YES MA'AM.
UH, ATTORNEY, DO WE NEED ANY OTHER ITEMS TO MAKE THAT PART OF OUR PROCESS? NO, MA'AM.
IF THAT'S THE CONSENSUS, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU'RE GIVING MR. HUFF, I THINK THAT'S SUFFICIENT.
I THINK EVERYONE WAS NODDING THEIR HEADS.
WE HAVE CONSENSUS TO DIRECT STAFF THAT WAY.
[13. Conduct a discussion on converting work group into project groups.]
I HAVE MY MARCHING ORDERS.AND OUR FINAL AGENDA ITEM, THANK GOODNESS, WAS NOT ONE BY KIP PARAGO.
OUR PRESENTER FOR THIS ONE IS SARAH PROCTOR.
SO I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU.
WELL, I DON'T REALLY HAVE A PRESENTATION.
THIS WAS JUST BASICALLY WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT IT AT THE LAST, UM, MEETING, MAYBE A SPECIAL MEETING.
BUT JUST BASICALLY DO WE WANT TO KEEP OUR, AND IT GOES ALONG WITH ALL THE OTHER THINGS WE'RE DOING.
UM, SO THERE'S PROBABLY NOTHING TO VOTE ON, BUT DO WE WANT TO KEEP THE WORKING GROUPS THE WAY THEY ARE BECAUSE IT'S JUST SORT OF WHEN YOU GET ON, I MEAN SHARON AND I BOTH, WE, IT WAS JUST SORT OF WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO AND WHAT, YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN'T JOIN SOME CAUSE THEY'RE FULL AND THERE'S QUORUM, SO YOU CAN'T HELP THEM.
YOU KNOW, SO A LOT OF CONFUSION ON THE EXISTING GROUPS.
SO DOES IT MAKE SENSE FOR PROJECT BASED GROUPS? UM, YOU KNOW, AND TO KEEP, LIKE THERE'S A REASON WHY WE HAVE THE FOLKS WE HAVE ON HOUSING OF COURSE CUZ THE EXPERTISE.
BUT THEN IT, IT FEELS LIKE A LOT OF WHAT WE DO IS BASED, YOU KNOW, CENTERED AROUND HOUSING MM-HMM.
SO IT FEELS LIKE THAT'S THE MOST ACTIVE THEY HAVE AND THEY, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY HAVE A LOT OF WORK.
I KNOW YOU'VE DONE A TON OF WORK BY YOURSELF
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ON, ON THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.IT'S JUST REALLY DISCUSS AND DO WE HAVE A CONSENSUS ON PROJECT GROUPS AND WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE BECAUSE THAT, THAT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A QUESTION MARK FOR ME IS WHAT THEY WOULD LOOK LIKE.
LIKE WHAT, YOU KNOW, LOOK AT OUR AGENDA TONIGHT AND THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSING.
SO ARE WE DOING IT BASED ON PROPERTY? ARE WE DOING IT BASED ON AREAS? SO, I MEAN, I DON'T, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT PROJECT GROUPS WOULD LOOK LIKE EITHER, SO I DON'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER, BUT MAYBE SOMEBODY ELSE.
WELL, AND I WONDER IF SOME PROJECT GROUPS COULD BE MORE ORGANIC AS THERE IS SOMETHING THAT COMES UP AND WE GO, WE NEED THREE OR FOUR PEOPLE TO RESEARCH THAT CAN, CAN WE GET A PROJECT GROUP FOR THAT? MM-HMM.
THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF OPEN-ENDEDNESS THERE AND I THINK IT KIND OF, UH, LIKE WHEN I HAD TO CONSULT WITH THAT, I WAS IN WORK GROUP FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, RESPECTS FOR BUILDING AND THIS AND THAT.
COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THAT WITHOUT MM-HMM.
SO THAT WAS A PROJECT GROUP IN ITSELF.
UM, WHEN WE MET TO DO THAT, ME THE KIDS, RIGHT? SO, UM, YEAH, I MEAN I, I THINK IT'S HELPFUL FOR DISCUSSION.
MAYBE I WOULDN'T HAVE SAID THAT.
IT WAS ACTUALLY, UH, THE MAYOR AND CITY MANAGER.
SO NOW Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT MEETING, HUH? ALL OF A SUDDEN NOBODY REMEMBER IT, BUT YOU REMEMBER IT NOW.
UM, IN THAT PARTICULAR MEETING, UH, THAT'S WHY I'M OPEN FOR THIS DISCUSSION.
UM, PHILLIPS WAS HURT, UH, WHEN, WHEN, UH, COMMISSIONER MORGAN WON TO DRAFT SARAH PROPER.
I WANTED TO GET BOTH SINCE I WAS A ONE MAN ARMY, I WANTED TO GET BOTH OF 'EM ON MY WORK GROUP AND, AND SARAH CHOSE ROBBIE.
SO I WAS GONNA HURT ROBIN AWAY FROM HIM.
AND I WAS LIKE, WELL, MAYBE WE DO NEED TO GET AWAY FROM THESE WORK GROUPS.
SO, UH, BUT YEAH, I DEFINITELY F*****G SARAH HAS.
IS THAT AN ITEM THAT AS WE'RE REVIEWING THIS DRAFT OF OUR PROCESS AND PROCEDURES WOULD NEED TO BE IN THAT PROCESS AND PROCEDURES? OR IS THAT JUST A MORE CASUAL WAY OF GETTING THINGS ACCOMPLISHED? I WOULD ABSOLUTELY HAVE SOME REFERENCE TO YOUR POLICY FOR WORK GROUPS OR PROJECT GROUPS IN YOUR RULES OF PROCEDURE.
AND IT CAN BE AS ELASTIC OR INELASTIC AS AS YOU WANT IT TO BE.
UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THE WORK GROUP LANGUAGE THAT'S IN YOUR, THE DRAFT POLICIES AND PROCEDURES BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING, THERE IS SOME LANGUAGE THERE THAT ALLOWS FOR YOU TO ADD OR SUBTRACT GROUPS AS UM, AS IS NECESSARY.
SO IF YOU'RE INCLINED AT THIS JUNCTURE TO BE, UM, PROJECT ORIENTED, WHICH I THINK YOU HAVE SEVERAL PROJECTS THAT ARE UNDERWAY, UM, TO, TO REORIENT YOUR FOCUSES TO BE MORE NARROWLY FOCUSED ON THOSE SPECIFIC PROJECTS, AS ADDITIONAL PROJECTS EVOLVED, YOU WOULD HAVE THE ELASTICITY TO, UM, AD GROUPS FOR THOSE SUBSEQUENT OR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS.
WE CAN CERTAINLY BRING THAT LANGUAGE TO YOU IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION YOU'D LIKE TO GIVE.
THIS COULD ALSO BE SOMETHING WE TRY TO TALK ABOUT AT STRATEGIC PLANNING.
WE GET SOMEBODY LIKE HOW DO OTHER PEOPLE DO IT? YES.
BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S VERY CONFUSING.
LIKE WHO'S ON WHAT PROJECT, WHAT IF NOBODY EVER VOLUNTEERS AND JUST SHOWS UP.
SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S LIKE, DO WE VOLUNTEER PEOPLE THAT DO WE TELL YOU YOU HAVE TO JOIN A PROJECT CUZ YOU HAVEN'T DONE ONE? ALL THAT GETS REALLY TRICKY.
THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHY THE GROUPS WE HAVE MADE SENSE.
GIVE US MORE TIME FOR DISCUSSION.
BUT IF IT'S THE INCLINATION OF THE BODY TO, TO EXPLORE THE CONCEPT OF PROJECT GROUPS, UM, WE CERTAINLY, YOU CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO, TO RESEARCH THOSE TOPICS AND BRING SOME INFORMATION BACK TO YOU, UM, TO INCORPORATE IN THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
OR YOU CAN DECIDE THAT YOU DON'T WANT TO, UM, INCORPORATE OR ADOPT ANY RULES OF PROCEDURE UNTIL AFTER WHENEVER YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION IS.
WE JUST NEED SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL.
AND I THINK JUST FOR THE UM, SAKE OF NEWER COMMISSION MEMBERS, THE REASON THE PROJECT OR THE WORK GROUPS GOT STARTED WAS WHEN WE STARTED AND FOR THE FIRST YEAR AND A HALF WE MET EVERY TWO WEEKS AND THAT WAS A LOT OF MEETING AND DOING WORK.
AND SO WE SAID LET'S BREAK OFF INTO GROUPS THAT CAN MEET ON OTHER NIGHTS OF THE WEEK AND GET THESE THINGS DONE.
UM, AND SO THAT WE WERE TRYING TO GET A LOT OF WORK DONE AND EVERYBODY GOT TIRED OF MEETING TWICE A MONTH.
UM, SO WE MAY BE AT A POINT WHERE THEY CAN BE MORE ELASTIC NOW, YOU KNOW, BY PROJECT STEVE, YOU LOOK PENSIVE.
I'M, I'M, I'M TAKING IN THE CONVERSATION HERE WHAT THE, THE VARIOUS VIEWPOINTS ARE ON THINGS.
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SUMMARY.WELL TO EVERYONE IS IN, UM, CONSENSUS THAT THIS AREA NEEDS SOME REVAMPING MAYBE IS WHAT I'M, I'M HEARING.
UM, AND UH, THE BEST WAY TO GIVE STAFF DIRECTION MAY BE TO UM, HAVE IT BE CREATIVE OF CREATIVE AND BRING US SOME IDEAS OF THAT.
I CAN CERTAINLY GIVE YOU SOME IDEAS OF WHAT OTHER FOLKS ARE DOING, WHAT OTHER REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS ARE, ARE DOING SOMETHING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
CAN I ADD SOMETHING? UM, OF COURSE THIS WHOLE, WITH THIS CONCEPT THAT CAME UP ABOUT THE PROJECT GROUPS, IT WAS BECAUSE THE WORK GROUPS THAT YOU ALL HAD, IT WAS LOOKED AT, LIKE YOU HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP WHICH BASICALLY WAS JUST ALL ONLY RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANUPS.
WHEREAS LIKE FOR INSTANCE WITH THE EUBANKS HOUSE AND THE, UH, BLOOMFIELD, BOTH OF THOSE WERE GOING AT THE SAME TIME AND IT WAS JUST ALL HOUSING GROUP DOING IT OR, OR THEN THE, WE WE CREATED THE, THE, UM, THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS WHERE YOU, YOU ACTUALLY COULD HAVE HAD, UH, TWO DIFFERENT GROUPS WORKING ON THOSE PROJECTS.
AND JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE MORE EXPERTISE WITH THE HOUSING DOESN'T MEAN THAT THEY HAVE TO BE ON ALL OF 'EM, BUT THEY COULD BE STILL RESOURCES.
LIKE IF YOU, UH, HAD SEVERAL PEOPLE ON ONE GROUP THAT DOESN'T HAVE ALL THE HOUSING EXPERTISE, THEY COULD STILL REACH OUT.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE PREMISE BEHIND THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WASN'T THAT, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH, UM, UH, RESEARCH YOU NEED TO PUT INTO IT.
IT WAS MORE OR LESS JUST, HEY, LET'S DIVIDE 'EM UP WHEN YOU HAVE A PROJECT.
UH, LIKE IF YOU GONNA HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUP, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE SAME ONE PERSON.
IT COULD BE TWO OR THREE PEOPLE SAY, HEY, I'LL JUMP ON THAT.
AND EVEN WITH THE HOUSING WORK GROUPS, YOU COULD HAVE SOMEONE WHO HAS THE CONNECTIONS TO THE COMMUNITY GETTING THEIR VOICES OF WHAT THEY WANT, THE HOUSING PEOPLE WHO KNOWS WHAT PROCESSES THEY CAN DO.
SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF EVERYONE UTILIZING THEIR SKILLS AND NOT JUST SAYING THE HOUSING GROUP HAS TO BE SOMEONE WITH HOUSING EXPERTISE AND, AND THAT ALONE.
SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED WITH THAT DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD.
SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO SEND OUT THE INFORMATION AS AS, AS IT'S GATHERED, DO YOU WANT TO WAIT TILL THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING IN THE FALL AND JUST TABLE THIS ITEM UNTIL THEN? WHAT'S, UH, WHAT'S THE CONSENSUS IN THE DIRECTION TABLE TO STRATEGIC MEETING? GOT A TABLE TO THE STRATEGIC MEETING.
UM, DISTILLATION OF THE INFORMATION.
ALL RIGHT, LET ME GET BACK TO MY FRONT PAGE AGENDA HERE.
[14. Closed Session]
THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM IS CLOSED SESSION.I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE ANY, NO MA'AM.
REASON TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.
I WOULD LIKE TO DIRECT THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION BACK TO NUMBER SEVEN.
I THINK THERE WAS SOME CONSENSUS TO TABLE THAT ITEM UNTIL THE CONCLUSION OF DISCUSSIONS ABOUT RULES OF PROCEDURE.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT, IF ANY DIRECTION OR ACTION YOU WANT TO TAKE AS REGARDS TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
UH, I JUST FOR THE SAKE OF KNOWING, ABSENT ANY CHANGES TO OUR POLICIES, OUR PATH FORWARD IS FOR THE HOUSING WORKING GROUP.
WE NEED TO ADDRESS THAT AND THEN OFFER A COMMENT AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SIR, WHICH ONE WAS WHICH ONE? SEVEN CURTIS.
AND WERE TABLING? YEAH, IT WAS TABLED.
BECAUSE OF THE PROCEDURES THAT'S, THAT'S IN PLACE NOW.
THE RULES THAT'S IN PLACE NOW.
WHAT YOU, BECAUSE WE DID NOT ADOPT NEW RULES.
AND THE OLD RULES WHERE THE HOUSING WORKING GROUP EVALUATE AND OFFER OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THE NEXT MEETING.
SO YOU TABLED IT TO TALK ABOUT THE RULES OF PROCEDURE, BUT WE NEVER TOOK ANY ACTION WITH THAT.
RIGHT? SO WE HAVE OUR EXISTING PROCEDURES, BUT SINCE YOU ALL SAID WELL, LET'S HOLD, LET'S PRESS PAUSE ON THAT ITEM.
LET'S COME BACK AND CLOSE THAT LOOP WITH AGENDA ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.
THAT WAY EVERYBODY'S ON THE SAME PAGE AND KNOWLEDGEABLE ABOUT THE PATH FORWARD AS WELL AS THE PUBLIC.
ANY QUESTIONS PROCEDURALLY? OKAY.
WE'LL BE PREPARED TO REPORT SO EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE USING OUR EXISTING POLICY AND THAT THIS MATTER WILL BE TAKEN UP BY THE HOUSING WORK GROUP FOR THEM TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO YOU ALL IN THE AUGUST MEETING.
THANK YOU MADAM PRESIDING OFFICER.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS AND WE'LL GO AROUND.
COMMISSIONER WALLACE, COMMISSIONER O'BRIEN? NO.
COMMISSIONER PAR? NO THANK YOU.
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COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.THEN DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
ALL OPPOSED POST, THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED.