Aug 16, 2023 Historic Preservation Commission

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OKAY, CALL

[1. Opening of Meeting with Roll Call]

CAN WE HAVE THE ROLL CALL? YES, CERTAINLY.

UM, MARK HARNER.

HERE.

JIM MORRISON.

HERE.

GREGORY RUSH.

HERE.

MOLLY BALES? HERE.

JAMES BISBEE? HERE.

CANDACE SULLIVAN.

PRESENT.

TIM THOMPSON.

HERE.

RICHARD PARSONS HERE.

AND TRIP YEAR IS EXCUSED.

WE HAVE A QUORUM.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

WE HAVE

[Items 2 & 3]

AND THAT IS THE REMOVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA IN ITS ENTIRETY BECAUSE THE MINUTES ARE NOT HERE TO BE READ.

AND THE NORTHWEST GEORGE STREET WRITTEN DECISION WAS APPROVED AT THE LAST MEETING.

SO IT COULD HAVE A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

COULD I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT? SECOND MARK.

MARK DID THAT.

OKAY.

MOVEMENT.

SECONDED.

WE REMOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR THE REASONS STATED.

ALL IN FAVOR, STATE AYE.

A OPPOSED HEARING NONE.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

HISTORIC

[4.C. Hearings: Introduction, Swearing-In, Summary of Process - Introduction of Hearings and Rules of Procedure - Swearing-In of Speakers - Summary of the Hearing Process]

I HAVE A FEW OPENING REMARKS ABOUT WHAT WE DO.

HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION'S A PUBLIC COMMISSION APPOINTED BY THE CITY OF NEW BERN'S BOARD OF ALDERMAN.

IT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PRESERVING AND SAFEGUARDING NEW BERN'S LOCALLY DESIGNATED HISTORIC DISTRICTS DOWNTOWN AND RIVERSIDE BASED ON US DEPARTMENT OF INTERIOR STANDARDS, STATE STATUTES, CITY ORDINANCES, AND NEW BERN'S HISTORIC GUIDELINES.

TWO OF THE MAJOR TASKS OF H P C INCLUDE APPROVING APPLICATIONS FOR A CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS AND PREVENTING DEMOLITION OF HISTORIC STRUCTURES BY NEGLECT.

THE H P C HOLDS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING ON AN APPLICATION FOR CERTIFICATE APPROPRIATENESS.

THE COMMISSION HERE SWORN TESTIMONY AND EVIDENCE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, BY PARTIES WHO RECEIVED NOTICE OF THE MEETING AND BY OTHERS WHO CAN JUSTIFY THAT THEY HAVE RELEVANT EVIDENCE AND ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THE APPLICATION COMMISSION.

CANNOT CONSIDER COMMENTS BASED ON PERSONAL LIKES OR DISLIKES, HEARSAY OR PERSONAL OPINION THAT CAN'T BE DIRECTLY RELATED TO SPECIFIC HISTORIC GUIDELINES.

AND LIKEWISE, THE COMMISSIONERS WILL REFRAIN FROM STATING PERSONAL OPINION, PERSONAL LIKES AND DISLIKES OR HEARSAY DURING THE HEARING WILL MAKE OUR DECISION BASED ON THE APP APPLICATION SOLELY AND THE EVIDENCE PRESENTED.

CAN WE SWEAR IN THE PRESENTERS? YES.

ALRIGHT.

IF ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING IN ANY PASS STATE, UH, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

WE'LL SWEAR YOU IN.

EVEN IF YOU WON'T, THAT YOU MIGHT FORWARD ANYONE.

IT'S ONE OF THOSES.

WHAT, UH, PLEASE RAISE RIGHT HAND.

UH, DO TELL THE TRUTH TO THE BEST OF YOUR KNOWLEDGE.

I DO.

ALRIGHT.

PLEASE PRINT YOUR NAME AND WHILE THAT'S HAPPENING, I'LL SUMMARIZE THE, UH, WAY THAT WE'LL HANDLE APPLICATIONS.

THE H B C ADMINISTRATOR WILL PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE APPLICATION.

THE APPLICANT OR REPRESENTATIVE, UH, CAN PRESENT OR ADD COMMENTS ON THE APPLICATION.

PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS WHO RECEIVE NOTICE OF THE HEARING CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE.

A REBUTTAL IS ALLOWED BY THE APPLICANT AND BY PROPONENTS AND OPPONENTS WHO RECEIVE NOTICE.

OTHERS WHO CAN JUSTIFY THAT THEY HAVE RELEVANT INFORMATION AND WILL BE DIRECTLY AFFECTED CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE.

THE H P C ADMINISTRATOR WILL, WILL PRESENT THE FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

THE APPLICANT AND REPRESENTATIVE HAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE FINAL COMMENTS.

THE COMMISSIONERS WILL DISCUSS THE EVIDENCE AND ASK FOR CLARIFICATION.

CHAIRMAN CALLS FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY THE APPLICATION MOTION IS DISCUSSED AND I'LL CALL FOR A VOTE.

[4.D. 305 North Ave. – to include construction of an infill house as redevelopment after demolition of the existing house.]

OKAY.

SO IF YOU LOOK AT YOUR SCREENS, YOU HAVE, UH, THE APPLICATION SHOWN HERE.

UH, LEMME GO UP A LITTLE BIT.

OKAY.

YES.

THE APPLICATION FOR, UH, 3 0 5 NORTH AVENUE, UH, FOR, UH, PAUL A AND KAREN K. FREEMAN.

UH, AND THEY HAVE THE DESCRIPTIONS AND OTHER INFORMATION REQUIRED ON THE APPLICATION AND THEY HAVE SIGNED AND DATED HERE ALL THE WAY BACK IN JANUARY.

UH, SO,

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AND I'M GOING TO BACK UP.

DO YOU HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SCREEN? I DON'T HAVE A SCREEN ON.

IT DOESN'T WORK.

MONITOR? YEAH.

OKAY.

HOLD ON.

THIS IS OFF.

YEAH, I THINK SO.

OKAY.

IT WASN'T RECENT.

NOT TOUCHED IT ON AT ALL.

DID IT GO OFF? GO OFF? I NEVER CAME UP FORMAT.

OKAY.

I THINK IT'S MALFUNCTIONING.

SORRY.

OKAY.

BLESS THAT.

YOU CAN MOVE DOWN HERE TOO.

I THINK THAT'S A LARGER SPEED.

I'M JUST FOLLOW.

OKAY.

SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE SEEING ON THE SCREEN HERE IS, UH, SCREENSHOTS OF THE, UM, STREET SCAPE THERE.

UH, THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS THE YELLOW-ISH HOUSE THAT'S HIDDEN BEHIND THE BUSHES HERE.

WE'LL SEE IT IN THE NEXT SHOT AS WELL.

THERE WAS DEAD CENTER AND, UH, YOU CAN SEE THE HOUSE TO THE LEFT AND TO THE RIGHT AS WELL.

AND NOW HERE THE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT WITH SUBJECT PROPERTY ON THE LEFT.

SO THIS IS THERE SITE PLAN.

SO I WILL MAKE IT A LITTLE SMALLER, GET MORE OF IT ON THERE.

AND, UH, THIS, UH, SHOWS THE EXISTING HOUSE ON THE, ON THE DOUBLE WIDE LOT OR THE LOT THAT'S DOUBLE, DOUBLE SIZE.

UH, AND SHOWS THE LINE DOWN THE MIDDLE WHERE THERE COULD BE A FUTURE SUBDIVISION POTENTIALLY.

UH, AND ALSO SHOWS EXISTING TREES.

AND OF COURSE THE PROPERTY LINES, THE, UH, STREET IS AT THE TOP.

ALRIGHT.

THEN WITH THAT, UH, THEY HAVE PROVIDED A SITE PLAN FOR THE NEW PROJECT.

I'LL MAKE THAT AGAIN, A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.

SEE THE WHOLE SITE? HMM.

COME ON.

ALL RIGHT.

THERE WE GO.

UH, AND SO THEY ARE PROPOSING, UH, A, A NEW HOUSE FIVE FEET FROM THE, UH, SIDE YARD.

UH, AND, UH, THE SCREEN 15 FEET, UH, FROM THE BACK OF THE SIDEWALK.

AND THE, UH, BUILDING IS 60 FEET BY 26 FEET.

THEY ARE PROPOSING THAT THEY WILL BE BUILDING A DRIVEWAY DOWN THE MIDDLE, STRADDLING THE TWO POTENTIAL LOTS.

BUT IT IS CURRENTLY ONLY ONE LOT.

UH, SO, UM, IT'S JUST PLANNING FOR THE FUTURE THERE.

IN THEIR CASE, IN ADDITION TO THE FACT THAT THE, UH, GARAGE IN THE BACK IS ALSO A FUTURE TWO CAR GARAGE.

SO THAT IS NOT PART OF THE APPLICATION TODAY.

BUT THE HOUSE, UH, AND THE FENCE IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE, THE SIDEWALK LEADING TO THE HOUSE, THE LANDSCAPING, THOSE ARE ALL PART OF THE APPLICATION TODAY.

SO HERE'S A FRONT VIEW OF THE HOUSE.

UM, WE SEE, UH, FRONT PORCH ON THE FIRST LEVEL.

UH, SECOND LEVEL IS SIDED WITH CEMENT LAP SIDING.

THE THIRD LEVEL IS, UH, UH, FIBER, CEMENT SHINGLES.

AND THEN THE, UH, ROOFING AT THE VERY TOP IS ALL ASPHALT SHINGLE.

BUT THE ROOFING OVER THE PORCH IS A METAL, UM, STANDING SEAM ROOF.

YOU CAN ALSO SEE THE FOUNDATION AT THE PORCH IS, UH, A BRICK OR BRICK VENEER.

WE'LL MOVE DOWN TO THE NEXT SHEET.

THIS ONE SHOWS THE, UM, THE RIGHT SIDE OR THE WEST SIDE OF THE STRUCTURE.

THE FRONT PORCH IS SHOWN ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE.

UM, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT INDEED THE SECOND FLOOR AND THE THIRD FLOOR ARE REALLY ACTUALLY THE FIRST AND SECOND FLOOR.

UM, 'CAUSE THE FIRST FLOOR IS ACTUALLY OPEN.

UH, AND SO IS, UM, UH, UH, A, A, UH, HIGH, UH, A,

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UH, AND THEY HAVE, THEY'RE SHOWING ON THIS ONE, I SHOULD .

SO THERE WE GO.

UM, THEY'RE SHOWING FOR THAT NOW THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE FOUNDATION OR THAT LOWEST LEVEL, UH, THEY'RE SHOWING A WOOD LATTICE INFILL IN THOSE OPENINGS.

UH, AND THEN THE REST OF THE STRUCTURE IS, UH, TO BE FACED WITH BRICK CONCRETE BLOCK FOUNDATION WITH BRICK VENEER.

THEN, UH, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE HEIGHT OF THE, THE FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR IN A MINUTE.

THEY ARE ALSO SHOWING ON THE BACK, UH, PORCH OR DECK, UH, THE, UH, AIR CONDITIONING CONDENSING UNITS, UH, ARE SHOWN, UH, ON ONE OF THE DECKS ON THE FIRST FLOOR.

UM, LET'S SEE.

AND THE SIDING HERE IS ALL THE, UH, CEMENT BOARD SIDING.

SO DOWN HERE WE'LL SEE THE CALCULATIONS FOR THE ACTUAL HEIGHT OF THE STRUCTURE.

UH, UH, WE CAN SEE ON THE, ALL THE WAY ON THE RIGHT WE HAVE NINE FOOT, UH, SHOWING THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION.

AND THEN WE HAVE A TWO FOOT FIGURE HERE FOR THE, UH, REQUIRED FREEBOARD.

AND THEN ABOVE THAT IS, UM, SHOWN.

WAIT A MINUTE, THIS IS AN OLD DRAWING.

OKAY.

THIS IS A PROBLEM.

ALRIGHT, HOLD ON.

FOR CLARIFICATION, THAT WAS AN EARLIER DRAWING, IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? YES.

UH, UM, AND IT HAS BEEN SUBSEQUENTLY CHANGED.

OKAY.

UM HMM.

OKAY.

I AM GOING TO ASK, UH, THE OWNERS TO CLARIFY FOR ME, UM, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T QUITE FIND IT AT THE MOMENT.

I BELIEVE WE HAD, UM, WE HAD ELIMINATED THIS ONE FOOT DIMENSION FOR DUCT WORK.

IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.

YEAH.

YES.

UH, AND WE HAD STILL HAD THOUGH THE ONE, ONE FOOT TWO INCHES TO ALLOW FOR NOT JUST THE STRUCTURE, BUT THE INSULATION IN BETWEEN THE STRUCTURAL MEMBERS.

UH, WELL THAT'S WHERE YOU PLACE.

ALRIGHT.

CAN YOU COME UP TO THE PHONE, UH, MICROPHONE PLEASE.

.

AND YOU ARE PAUL FREEMAN? YES.

OKAY, GOOD.

THANK YOU.

UH, AND I BELIEVE THE ONE FOOT TWO INCH DIMENSION, WHICH REPRESENTS THE DEPTH OF THE FLOOR STRUCTURE, WAS ALSO INCLUDED TO BE ABOVE THE, UM, REQUIRED FLOODPLAIN ELEVATION BECAUSE YOU'RE INTENDING TO HAVE INSULATION UNDERNEATH IT, UNDERNEATH THE FLOOR IN THAT SPACE.

THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO, UM, I THOUGHT WE HAD A DRAWING THAT SHOWED THAT, AND I CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THAT AT THE MOMENT.

UM, DOES ANYONE OBJECT TO SEEING THIS DRAWING BUT UNDERSTANDING THAT THE ONE FOOT DIMENSION

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OKAY.

NO OBJECTION.

I THINK YOU HAD IT AT THE DESIGN REVIEW.

YES.

BUT THIS, WHAT I'M LOOKING AT NOW IS THE DESIGN REVIEW PACKET.

OH.

SO, WELL, IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT SUBJECT FOR THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMITTEE, IS IT? YES, IT IS BECAUSE, UM, WITHOUT OTHERWISE, UH, THERE STRUCTURE WILL BE ONE FOOT TALLER THAN, UH, IS ESSENTIALLY ALLOWED.

BUT THAT'S THE MAIN DIFFERENCE THAT WE WOULD HAVE.

YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

SO THE FOUNDATION HERE WILL BE ONE FOOT SHORTER.

THEY ALSO, UM, INCLUDED, UH, THE, UM, EXTENDING THE SIDING DOWN, I BELIEVE ABOUT 18 INCHES, UH, FARTHER AS WELL.

SO IN THE END IT WAS, THE FOUNDATION SHOULD LOOK TWO AND A HALF FEET SHORTER THAN WHAT IS SHOWN HERE.

AND MR. CHAIR, JUST IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL, UM, I, I THINK IT'S PRUDENT TO CONSIDER THE APPLICATION AS IT'S PRINTED BEFORE YOU, WITH THE UNDERSTANDING OF THE APPLICATION HAS MADE AN AMENDMENT TO THE APPLICATION REMOVING THAT ONE FOOT PORTION THAT THE H P H P C ADMINISTRATOR JUST UM, REFERENCED.

SO IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION LATER IN THE HEARING ABOUT APPROVING THE APPLICATION, IT WOULD BE WITH THE AMENDMENT MADE TONIGHT.

YEP.

GOT IT.

AND IS THE MOVEMENT OF THE SIDING PART OF THAT? YES, IT IS.

SO THERE'S TWO PIECES.

TWO PIECES, YEAH.

LOWERING OF THE SIDING AND THE REMOVAL OF THAT ONE FOOT.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, WE CAN CONTINUE.

SO, UH, ESSENTIALLY THE FINISHED FLOOR IS ONE FOOT SHORTER THAN SHOWN ON THIS DRAWING, AND THEN THE SIDING IS A FOOT AND A HALF SHORTER OR LOWER THAN IS SHOWN ON THE DRAWINGS AS WELL.

ALRIGHT.

UH, NEXT PAGE.

SO THE, THIS IS NOW THE EAST SIDE, UM, ESSENTIALLY A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE WEST SIDE.

UH, AND WE WILL SEE AT THE BOTTOM THE REAR ELEVATION.

OOPS.

AND I'M GOING TO MAKE THAT LARGER BEFORE WE GO OUT TO THE FRONT AGAIN.

OKAY.

TOO.

HERE WE GO.

OKAY.

SO ON THE REAR, UM, WE AGAIN HAVE THE, UM, THE BRICK FOUNDATION, THEN WE HAVE THE TWO, UM, BALCONY DECKS OUT THE BACK.

AND ON THE VERY TOP OF THE, UH, THERE IS A SMALL ROOF OVER THE UPPER DECK, UH, ONLY IN THE MIDDLE SECTION.

AND THAT HAS GOT, UM, THE METAL ROOFING ON IT, THE CORRUGATED, I MEAN THE, UM, UH, STANDING SAME METAL ROOFING.

UH, THE GABLE HAS THE, UH, SHINGLES, THE FIBER, CEMENT SHINGLES, AND THEN THE, UH, REST FIRST OR THE, THE FIRST HABITABLE FLOOR AND THE SECOND HABITABLE FLOOR ARE SIDED WITH THE, UH, CEMENT BOARD SIDING.

OKAY.

THEN AT THE FRONT ELEVATION, UH, THEY ARE SHOWING US WHAT THE FENCING OUT FRONT WOULD LOOK LIKE AND THEIR DIMENSIONS, UH, AND THE, UH, TWO, UH, LANTERNS AT THE ENTRANCE, UH, FOR THE HOME, THE, UH, THE BRICK PILLARS AND THEN THE, UH, PICKET FENCES.

THOSE ARE WOOD AND THEY'RE PRIMED AND PAINTED.

AND THEN THERE IS ACTUALLY TO THE RIGHT OF THIS SECOND PILLAR IS A CURVED SECTION, WHICH, UM, UH, DISAPPEARS INTO THE DISTANCE.

SO THEY DIDN'T DRAW IT ON THIS DRAWING FOR FEAR BEING MISLEADING, BUT THE, UH, SITE PLAN DOES SHOW THAT WE CAN LOOK AT THAT IF YOU WANT.

THEN THIS IS THE LANDSCAPE PLAN, UH, OH.

AND HERE WE SEE THAT, UH, CURVED, UH, FENCE ON THE LANDSCAPE PLAN AS WELL.

UM, SO THE, THAT CURVED PORTION IS RIGHT HERE ON THE LOWER LEFT OF THE DRAWING.

AND THEN, UH, THEY HAVE CALLED OUT ALL THE VARIOUS PLANTS, UH, FOR THE SITE.

AND THIS LARGE, UH, UH, AREA AT THE TOP IS THE EXISTING TREE IS TO REMAIN.

SO THEY'RE LOOKING TO SAVE THAT LARGE TREE THERE.

UM, I THINK THAT'S THE, IT, THAT'S

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OH, THAT WAS ACTUALLY FROM THE PREVIOUS.

AND SO WE ALSO THEN HAVE THE ZONING AND INSPECTIONS REVIEW FOR THE PROJECT.

AND WE HAVE THE, UH, PROJECT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USE ORDINANCE, AND THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR INDICATES THAT IT WILL REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT.

OF COURSE, UH, DEMOLITION BUILDING AND FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMITS ARE REQUIRED.

AND THEN WE'RE READY WITH OUR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY.

DOES THE APPLICANT, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? MR. FREEMAN, DID YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T HAVE TO.

OH, WELL, I JUST WANT TO, UH, ASSURE YOU THAT WE COULD, UM, MAKE THE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PLAN AND RESUBMIT IF, UM, NO, I'M SURE I, I REMEMBER SEEING IT, SO I'M SURE I HAVE IT SOMEWHERE.

GOTCHA.

UM, UNFORTUNATELY DIDN'T MAKE THEM IN THE PRESENTATION.

OKAY.

ARE THERE PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS OF THE PLAN HERE? WHO WOULD LIKE TO, UH, WHO HAVE, UH, UH, BEEN SERVED NOTICE? WHO HAVE WANT TO COMMENT ON THE PLAN? SEEING NONE.

ANYBODY ELSE WHO HAS JUSTIFICATION WANT TO COMMENT? SEEING NONE, UH, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATION.

OKAY.

SO THIS IS FOR, UM, PROJECT FOR PAUL A AND KAREN K. FREEMAN, UH, FOR THE PRO.

THEIR PROJECT AT 3 0 5 NORTH AVENUE.

UH, THE, UM, HISTORIC HOUSE WAS BUILT IN 1928, UH, BUT IT IS A PENDING AS A VACANT PLOT.

UH, AND THE PROJECT FOR THIS PROPERTY IS TO INCLUDE DEMOLISHING THE EXISTING CONTRIBUTING HOUSE AND REPLACING IT WITH A NEW TWO-STORY INFILL HOUSE.

SO THE PROPOSED DEMOLITION HAS BEEN APPROVED BY THE H P C, HOWEVER, CANNOT PROCEED UNTIL THE REDEVELOPMENT IS APPROVED.

AND STAFF SUBMITS THE FOLLOWING HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AS APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION.

SO FOR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN 2.1, 2.1 0.3 FOR UTILITIES, 2.3 0.1, TWO, THREE, AND SIX FOR LANDSCAPING, 2.4 1, 3, 4, 5, AND EIGHT FOR FENCES AND GARDEN WALLS, 2.5 AND TWO FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES FOR THE FUTURE.

LOCATION SHOWN, UH, IS 2.6, WHICH REFERS TO IT NEEDING TO BE IN THE SECONDARY OR TERTIARY AREA.

UH, PARKING 2.7 0.1 AND TWO FOR DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 3.1, 0.12 AND FOUR FOR INFILL CONSTRUCTION, 3.4, 1, 2, 3, AND FOUR FOR FOUNDATIONS, 4.1 0.2 3, 4 5, AND SIX FOR WALLS, TRIM AND ORNAMENTATION, 4.4 FOR WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS.

4.3 0.2 AND THREE FOR ENTRANCES, 4.44 FOR ROOFS, 4.5 0.4 FOR MASONRY, 5.5 FOR PAINT, 5.4, 0.2, THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE.

AND FOR CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 2, 3, 5, AND SIX.

THE STATEMENT'S A REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION IN STAFF'S JUDGMENT.

R ONE, THE PROJECT IS NEW INFILL CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

TWO, THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.

THREE, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.

AND FOUR, THE PROJECT IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS APPLICATION TO REPLACE THE HOUSE THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR DEMOLITION WITH THE PROPOSED TWO STORY INFILL HOUSE FOR THE FOLLOWING CONDITION.

THE CONSTRUCTION OR INSTALLATION OF ANY ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WILL REQUIRE A SEPARATE C O A.

THOSE ARE OUR FINDINGS AND RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY.

UH, QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? WELL, THIS IS, THIS HAS BEEN A, YOU KNOW, A LONG PROCESS WHICH, UH, DEMOLITION AND REDEVELOPMENT, UH, ALWAYS TENDS TO DO TO BE, UM, I THINK, UM, THE APPLICANT HAS TAKEN A REASONABLE APPROACH TO DEAL WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, DESIGN COMPONENTS AS WELL AS HAVING TO DEAL WITH, UM, FLOOD HEIGHT ISSUES.

UH, THE OVERALL DESIGN DOES REFLECT SOME ELEMENTS OF HISTORIC SHOTGUN SIDE HALLS THAT YOU SEE IN, UH, RIVERSIDE AND DOWNTOWN.

I THINK IT WILL FIT IN NICELY WITH,

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UH, MATERIALS ARE WELL NOTED.

THEY ALL SEEM TO, UH, TO MEET THE STANDARDS FOR MATERIALS AS OUTLINED IN THE, UM, GUIDELINES.

THE OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE.

WELL, I WOULD HAVE ONE.

I SAW THAT FENCE BEING ROUNDED ON THAT CORNER AND I'M NOT SURE YET.

I, I THINK IT'S, IT DOES NOT LOOK SHOWING THE PROPERTY LIKE IT'S GOING AROUND THE CORNER.

COULDN'T THAT BE JUST MADE ON A 90 DEGREE? I DON'T, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE QUESTION.

THE FENCE IS GOING ROUNDED AROUND THE CORNER THERE.

OH, ROUND FENCE.

OKAY.

I GOT YOU.

WELL, YOU ASKING ANY OTHER THOUGHTS TO THAT? I THINK IT'S REALLY OWNER'S PREFERENCE.

YEP.

OKAY.

THERE'S CERTAINLY NOTHING DICTATING 90 DEGREE DENSITY.

I WAS JUST LOOKING UP THE GUIDELINES.

BUT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ABOUT THAT ROUNDED COURSE? NO.

, I GUESS IT'S EASIER TO MOW OR WHAT'S THE PURPOSE BEHIND THAT? IT JUST LOOKED A BIT ODD TO ME ON THAT, BUT AS HE SAID, WE DON'T HAVE TO, IF THERE'S NOTHING IN THE GUIDELINES ABOUT IT, I THINK WE CAN JUST LEAVE IT ROUNDED.

DID YOU WANNA COMMENT ON THAT MR. MR. FREEMAN? YEAH, WE, UH, GRAVITATED TOWARDS THE CURB FENCE AT THAT LOCATION BECAUSE OF THE PROXIMITY TO THE DRIVEWAY.

OH, SO YOU, IT IT'S RIGHT, UH, PRACTICALLY IN THE DRIVEWAY.

SO, UH, HAVING THE CURB JUST EASE THE EDGE A LITTLE.

THAT WAS SO IN CASE SOMEBODY HAS TO TAKE A TRAILER IN AND OUT OR SOMETHING THAT YOU DON'T HIT THE FENCE OR SO, OR SWINGING OF A CAR DOOR.

SOMETHING, YEAH.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO I WAS NOT TOTALLY OPPOSED TO, IT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT HIT MY EYE AND I WAS THINKING ABOUT IT.

THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING.

THANK YOU, SIR.

OKAY.

CHAIRMAN RICHARD, I LOOKED AT THAT SAME ISSUE AND WONDERED WHY THERE WEREN'T GATE POSTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE DRIVEWAY, BUT BECAUSE HALF THE DRIVEWAY IS GOING TO BE ON THE OTHER LOT PROPERTY, YOU DON'T WANT TO DEMARCATED INTO YOUR DRIVEWAY IF IT'S HALF THE OTHER GUYS.

YEAH.

THERE AREN'T ANY CURB FENCES LIKE THAT IN RIVERSIDE, BUT THERE IT IS.

IT'S GONNA BE ONE.

NOW, I GUESS, AND THE QUESTION FOR THIS, THIS COMMITTEE IS GOING TO BE WHETHER THAT DESIGN ELEMENT IS CONGRUOUS FOR INCONGRUENCE? YEAH.

YEAH.

NO.

SO THAT MIGHT BE PART OF YOUR DELIBERATIONS THIS EVENING.

YEP.

WELL, I DIDN'T SEE ANYTHING THAT WOULD BE INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES REGARDING THAT ROUNDING CORNER.

OKAY.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS, ISSUES? I HEARING NONE THEN WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION WITH THE AMENDMENT DESCRIBING THE CHANGE IN ELEVATION AND SITING.

UH, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE.

WE FIND THE AMENDMENT TO THE A FOR THE, UH, CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATE IS FOR 3 0 5, UH, NORTH AVENUE TO BE NON IN CONGRESS WITH NEW BERN'S CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15 4 11 TO 15 4 29.

AND NEW BERN'S HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS OF FACT DEVELOPING PATTERN 2.1 AND THREE, UTILITIES, 2.3 0.1, TWO, THREE AND SIX.

LANDSCAPING 2.4 3, 4, 5, AND EIGHT FENCES AND GARDEN WALLS, 2.5 0.1 AND TWO FUTURE ACCESSORY STRUCTURES NOT APPROVED AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT.

UH, 2.6 0.1, PARKING, 2.7 0.1 AND TWO DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 3.1, 0.1, TWO AND FOUR.

INFILL CONSTRUCTION, 3.4 0.1, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR FOUNDATIONS, 4.1, 0.2, THREE, FOUR, AND FIVE AND SIX.

WALL STREAM AND ORNAMENTATION, 4.2 0.4 WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS, 4.3 0.2 AND THREE ENTRANCES, 4.4 0.4.

ROOFS 4.5 0.4.

MASONRY, 5.1 0.5, PAINT 5.4, 2, 3, 4,

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CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS.

5, 5, 2, 3, 5, AND SIX.

AND FINDINGS OF FACT, THE NEW INFILL CONSTRUCTION IS IN THE TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.

THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.

AND THE PROJECT IS NOT IN CONGRESS WITH THE GUIDELINES AND INCLUDES AN AMENDMENT AT THE MEETING FOR A REDUCTION IN THE HEIGHT BY ONE FOOT AS SHOWN ON THE PLAN AND ALSO AN EXTENSION OF THE SIDING 18 INCHES DOWN TO THE TOP OF THE BRICK.

SECOND FOR THAT MOTION.

SECOND.

MOVED AND SECONDED.

WE APPROVE THE C O A AND THE AMENDMENT TO THE C O A ALL IN FAVOR STATE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? NEED A MOTION TO ISSUE A C O A I SECOND APPROVES AND SECONDED.

WE APPROVE THE ISSUANCE OF THE C O A.

ALL IN FAVOR STATE AYE.

A AYE.

OPPOSED? APPROVE.

THEN WE NEED A MOTION APPROVING THE LETTER WHICH YOU HAVE, UH, UH, TO THE APPLICANT'S.

THE WRITTEN THE WRITTEN DECISION.

WRITTEN.

THE WRITTEN DECISION.

YEAH.

EXCUSE ME.

SO MOVED.

UM, WELL IT NEEDS AN A AMEND, HOWEVER.

YES, IT DOES.

SO THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE WRITTEN DECISION WOULD INCLUDE THAT THE APPLICATION WAS AMENDED DURING THE HEARING TO REFLECT A ONE FOOT DOWNWARD DEVIATION AND ELEVATION AND AN 18 INCH REDUCTION IN THE LENGTH OF THE SIGNING.

OKAY.

AND IS THAT YOUR MOTION, GREG, SIR? YES.

OKAY.

OKAY.

IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? I SECOND MOVED AND SECONDED.

WE APPROVE THE WRITTEN APPLICATION, WHICH WILL WRITTEN DECISION.

THE WRITTEN DECISION, EXCUSE ME.

UH, WHICH WOULD BE AMENDED TO INCLUDE THE AMENDMENT.

YES.

.

ALL IN FAVOR, STATE AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? OKAY, WE ARE READY FOR SEVEN 19 EAST FRONT.

ALRIGHT, VERY GOOD.

SO THANK YOU TESTIMONY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY, OUR NEXT 1, 7 19

[4.E. 719 E. Front St. – to include an amendment to change building location, affecting the Primary AVC.]

UM, THIS IS THE APPLICATION THEY HAD WAY BACK WHEN, UH, AND WHEN THEY RECEIVED THEIR, UM, C O A FOR THAT FOR THE, UM, PROJECT, UH, THEY'RE NOW APPLYING TO FOR AN AMENDMENT TO THAT ISSUE, TO THAT C O A THAT WAS ISSUED TO ALLOW FOR THEM TO MOVE THE BUILDING FORWARD, OR, I'M SORRY, BACKWARD , UH, SUCH THAT THE FRONT ROW, WHAT HAPPENED? SO LEFT AND RIGHT IS UP AND DOWN.

GO FIGURE.

ALRIGHT.

HAVE TO GO MANUAL SO THAT THE, UH, FRONT PORCH CAN BE AT 16 FOOT EIGHT INCHES.

UH, AND THE, UH, BODY PROPER 22 FEET FROM THE PROPERTY LINE.

UH, AND THAT WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT THE, UM, THE REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SETBACKS HAVE RECENTLY BEEN CHANGED AND ADOPTED BY THE ALDERMAN.

SO, UH, NOW THIS, UH, THIS PROPOSAL IS IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE, UH, WITH THAT NEW CHANGE.

SO LET'S SEE IF I CAN, THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE.

THEY HAVE PROVIDED ALL THE APPROPRIATE, UM, DIMENSIONS IN ORDER TO DETERMINE THAT.

AND THIS IS THE, UH, I BELIEVE THIS IS THE GOING DOWN UP, THINK IT PROVIDED BOTH THE PREVIOUS AND THE PROPOSED.

SO I THINK THIS IS WHAT WAS APPROVED.

AM I CORRECT? WITH FIVE STEPS AND THEN YOUR PROPOSAL ENDS UP? NO, THAT MUST BE IT.

YEAH, THAT MUST BE YOUR NEW, THE NEW PROPOSAL, RIGHT? OR THAT YOUR ORIGINAL ONE THAT'S,

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THIS ONE WAS THE ONE THAT WAS APPROVED PRIOR.

AND SO THE ONE ABOVE IS THE ONE THAT, UM, WOULD RESULT WITH THE NEW, UH, CHANGE.

SEE HOW THE, THE BUILDING CAN SIT BACK FARTHER.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

AND SO WE HAVE THEN A NEW ZONING AND INSPECTIONS REPORT, WHICH SAYS THAT IT DOES MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USE ORDINANCE.

AND, UH, NEVERTHELESS, THE CHIEF BUILDING INSPECTOR CONTINUES TO SAY THAT IT WILL REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

UH, AND, UH, BUILDING AND FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMITS ARE REQUIRED.

SO, UH, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, WE HAVE, WE DO HAVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS, FINDINGS, AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THIS FOR YOU.

DO WE HAVE ANY PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS OF THE PLAN THAT WOULD LIKE TO, UH, SPEAK? SEEING NONE, UH, ANYONE ELSE WHO HASN'T BEEN NOTIFIED? WISH TO COMMENT.

SEEING NONE, WE'RE READY FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

OKAY.

SO, UM, THIS IS FOR, UH, SHANNON AND COR CORIN CORE AND GO ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN, UH, FOR SEVEN 19 EAST FRONT STREET.

UH, IT IS CURRENTLY A VACANT LOT AND SO THE PROPOSAL IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED C O A TO REVISE THE SETBACK LOCATION OF THE HOUSE ON THE SITE PLAN.

SO STAFF SUBMITS THE FOLLOWING HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AS APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR DEVELOPMENT PATTERN 2.1, 0.1 AND 2.1 0.3.

UH, THE STATEMENTS OF REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION AND STAFF'S JUDGMENT.

R ONE, THE PROJECT IS NEW INFILL CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

THE PROPOSED BUILDING LOCATION MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.

THREE, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.

AND FOUR, THE PROJECT IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVE THIS AMENDMENT TO THE APPROVED C O A TO REVISE THE SETBACK LOCATION OF THE HOUSE ON THE SITE PLAN.

OKAY, ARE THERE COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMISSION? I JUST WONDER IF ANYBODY IS LISTENING AT HOME WHAT THE GIST OF THE AMENDMENT TO THE ORDINANCE WAS? NOT GREAT DETAIL, BUT SURE.

UH, PRIOR TO, UM, UH, THE FRONT YARD SETBACK WAS DETERMINED BY MEASURING THE SETBACKS OF ALL OTHER CONTRIBUTING, UH, BUILDINGS ON THE SAME SIDE OF THE SAME BLOCK.

AND THEN IF THERE WEREN'T ENOUGH OF 'EM, THERE WERE OTHER, UM, UH, CRITERIA.

UM, BUT, UH, NOW THE CHANGE HAS BEEN MADE SUCH THAT, UH, THE SETBACK IS DETERMINED BY MEASURING THE SETBACKS OF ALL THE HOUSES ON THE BLOCK, WHETHER IT'S WHETHER THEY'RE CONTRIBUTING OR NOT.

OKAY.

I THINK IT ENDS UP IN A MORE PLEASING RESULT, I BELIEVE MUCH BETTER.

OKAY.

VERY GOOD.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS? HEARING NONE WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE C O A FOR, UM, SEVEN 19 EAST FRONT STREET.

MR. CHAIRMAN, I, UH, I MOVE THAT WE FIND, UH, THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT TO THE CERTIFICATE AND APPROPRIATENESS FOR SEVEN 19 EAST FRONT STREET TO BE NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH NEW BERN'S CODE OF ORDINANCES.

SECTIONS 15 DASH FOUR 11 TO 15 DASH 4 29 AND NEW BERN'S HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING, SPECIFIC, SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS OF FACT, UH, APPLICABLE GUIDELINES, DEVELOPMENT PATTERN 2.1, 0.3, UH, FINDINGS OF FACT THE PROJECT, UH, IS NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH A TIGHT WEAVE DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

UM, THE PROPOSED LOCATION IN THIS CASE, NOT A BUILDING OF THE STEPS, MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.

ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF BUILDING, UH, OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THE, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES, UH, UNDER THE AMENDMENT AND, UM, HAVE COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.

AND THE, UH, PROPOSED CHANGES OF THIS AMENDMENT ARE NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.

SECOND, MOVED AND SECONDED.

WE APPROVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE C O A ALL IN FAVOR STATE AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED?

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YOU JUST NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE WRITTEN DECISION.

JUST THAT.

OKAY.

WE NEED A MOTION TO ADOPT THE WRITTEN DECISION.

THE WRITTEN DECISION WOULD BE AMENDED TO HAVE THE RIGHT NAMES ON IT.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SO YOU'RE LOOKING FOR A MOTION? YES.

YES.

THAT SO MOVED.

OKAY.

SECOND MOVE.

AND SECONDED.

WE APPROVE THE, UH, WRITTEN DECISION WITH THE RIGHT NAMES ON IT.

ALL IN FAVOR? STATE AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? ISSUE THE LETTER.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

YOU'RE VERY WELCOME.

THAT PHONE CALL WITH SOME CHANGES, HE WANTS TO MAKE

[4.F. 100 Craven St. – to include windows and doors replacement, new flood barrier, mechanical screening, and sitework in all AVCs.]

ALRIGHT, SO HERE WE HAVE THE APPLICATION, UM, 100 CRAVEN STREET.

UH, PROPERTY OWNER IS, UH, T R I H L L C, JOHN HAROLDSON.

AND THE, UH, M V F ARCHITECTS ARE THEIR AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE.

THERE'S THEIR APPLICATION, UM, SIGNED AND DATED AND, AND HERE IS THE, UM, AUTHOR OWNER'S AUTHORIZATION TO AUTHORIZE M B F TO BE THEIR REPRESENTATIVE.

UM, THIS IS THEIR, UH, COVER LETTER, WHICH INCLUDES SOME OF THE, UH, INFORMATION THAT IS, UH, UM, FILLS OUT SOME OF THE INFORMATION ON THE APPLICATION.

AND THIS IS A VERY LARGE DRAWING AGAIN, BUT HERE FIRST WE'LL START WITH THE SITE.

UH, THE AERIAL, UH, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, UH, HOTEL THAT IS, UH, UH, ALONG THE RIVER AND NEXT TO THE CONVENTION CENTER, UH, FORMERLY KNOWN AS DOUBLETREE INN.

AND THIS IS A SITE PLAN.

MAKE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER.

THERE WE GO.

AND THIS SHOWS THE, UM, THE RENAMING IT AS TAPESTRY BY HILTON.

AND, UH, THE PRIMARY THINGS TO LOOK AT HERE ARE THE ON THE SITE PLAN ARE THE CHANGES TO THE, UH, DRIVEWAY THAT, UH, THIS SHOWS THE EXISTING CONFIGURATION OF THE DRIVEWAY, UH, WITH A, UM, ESPECIALLY THIS ENTRY TO THE, UM, SERVICE, UM, AREA, UH, UH, DOWN HERE AT THIS END OF THE BUILDING, UH, HAS THIS S-CURVE TO IT.

AND THEN THE ENTRANCE UNDERNEATH THE, UH, ENTRY CANOPY.

AND THEN AT THE END HERE, IT'S, THIS PARKING LOT IS A DEAD END PARKING LOT.

UH, THEY'LL BE CHANGING THAT TOO, PROPOSING TO CHANGE THAT.

SO HERE IS THE PROPOSAL.

SO, UM, THE, UH, DRIVEWAYS, THE S-SHAPED DRIVEWAYS CAN BE CUT, UM, SHUT OFF AND IT'LL JUST BE A STRAIGHT IN, UH, FOR THE, UH, UH, SERVICE, UH, AREA.

UH, BUT ALSO THEN IT IS, UH, SIMULTANEOUSLY ALSO THE ENTRANCE WAY FOR THE CANOPY AND THE, UM, RECEPTION.

UH, AND SO THAT ALL OF THESE REPRESENT THE VARIOUS CHANGES.

UM, AND THEN AT THE END OF THE DEAD END, THEY'RE, UH, ACTUALLY CUTTING THAT THROUGH TO MAKE, MAKE IT COME OUT AT THE END.

THEY ALSO HAVE SOME, UH, SIDEWALKS THAT THEY'RE ADDING ON THE BACKSIDE ALONG THE RIVER.

UH, AND ALSO TWO ENCLOSED PATIOS.

THAT'S IF THE SITE WORK.

THEN, UH, FOR THE BUILDING ITSELF, UM, THEY ARE PROPOSING TO REMOVE ALL THE WINDOWS AND ALL THE DOORS.

UH, AND THIS IS THE QUOTE UNQUOTE DEMOLITION PLAN FOR THAT SHOWING ALL THE DOORS AND ALL THE WINDOWS HAVE XS OR THEY'RE DASHED OUT AX, ACTUALLY.

UH, SO TO BE REMOVED.

AND THAT'S BOTH ON THE, THAT WAS THE, UH, BACK.

THIS IS THE FRONT.

UH, AND THAT'S TO BE HOW, UH, IT'S TO BE PROPOSED WITH THE NEW WINDOWS IN THERE.

UH, AND THE NEW DOORS.

UH, EVEN THE OVERHEAD DOOR FOR THE SERVICE AREA IS GOING TO BE NEW.

UH, AND THERE IS A DETAIL TO BE NOTED BECAUSE THESE TWO DASH LINES AT THE BOTTOM, UH, THESE HORIZONTAL DASH LINES REPRESENT FLOOD LEVELS.

UH, AND SO WE'LL SEE A DETAIL OF THAT IN A MINUTE.

BUT

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BUT ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, WE SEE, UH, THE PROPOSED NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS.

SO ON THE FIRST LEVEL, UH, WE'RE GOING TO GET, UH, WINDOWS THAT ARE SMALLER ON THE TOP BECAUSE THEY'RE ADDING A SOLID PANEL UNDERNEATH WHERE, UP TO THE FLOOD ELEVATION, THE, UH, RE REGULATORY FLOOD ELEVATION.

AND SAME THING FOR, THERE'S A FEW, UH, WINDOWS THAT ARE LARGER WITH FOUR WINDOWS.

UH, AND THEN THESE ARE THE NEW DOORS.

AND THEN FOR THE UPPER WINDOWS, THEY'RE JUST, UH, THEY DON'T HAVE THOSE PANELS IN THEM.

UM, THERE'S, UH, LET'S SEE, THEY'RE SHOWING HERE THE, UM, SOME MOENS, UM, TO BE ADDED IN THE ONE DOOR.

AND LET'S SEE.

SO THEN THE NEXT SHEET, WE DIDN'T SEE THIS YET, SO THIS IS NOW THE PROPOSED WEST ELEVATION WITH THE NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS.

UH, THAT'S A SOUTH ELEVATION, UH, WITH ALL THE WINDOWS AND DOORS TO BE REMOVED.

AND NOW WITH THE NEW WINDOWS AND DOORS.

UM, ALSO TO NOTE HERE, I'M GONNA GO UP ONE SECOND IS TO NOTE, UM, OVER HERE ON THE LEFT, WE HAVE SOME RAILING ON TOP OF THE, UH, FIRST FLOOR ROOF, UH, UM, OF THAT SECTION OF THE HOTEL.

SO NOW DOWN HERE ON THIS ONE, THAT AREA ALSO HAS SOME ADDITIONAL SCREENING GOING ON HERE, UH, BEHIND THE, UH, RAILING.

AND WE'LL SEE THAT IN PLAN VIEW IN A MINUTE.

BUT IT'S TO, UH, SCREEN SOME NEW MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S GOING OVER THERE.

AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE SAME SITUATION OVER HERE.

WE HAVE SOME SCREENING HERE FOR, UH, SOME, UH, BALCONIES OR PATIO PATIOS THAT COME OUT FROM, UH, UH, TWO OF THE GUEST ROOMS, I BELIEVE ON THIS END.

ALRIGHT, SO, UM, WHILE WE'RE HERE, THIS, UH, THIS IS A SECTION THROUGH THE, THE NEW WINDOWS, UH, THAT INCLUDE THE SOLID PANEL AND THE BOTTOM PART, AND THEN THE SMALLER, UH, REPLACEMENT WINDOW ON THE TOP.

AND THEN ON THIS SIDE WE HAVE THE, UM, ON THE EAST ELEVATION, IT'S SHOWING ALL THE DOORS AND WINDOWS AGAIN TO BE REMOVED.

AND THEN THE NEW, UM, TO BE REPLACED.

AND YOU CAN AGAIN SEE, UH, THE XS HERE ARE THAT, UH, DECORATIVE PATTERN IN THE BOTTOM PANEL OF THE, UM, AT, THAT'S BEING ADDED AT FOR THE FLOOD.

UM, THE FLOOD PANEL, YOU YOU'D CALL IT, I SUPPOSE, IN THE WINDOWS.

UM, LET'S SEE.

OH, ALSO ON THIS VIEW YOU CAN SEE THE, UH, EXTENT OF THE SCREENING ON THE EAST SIDE OF THE BUILDING.

UM, NOW THIS IS, UH, OVER THE, UH, OR LOOKING OVER, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE, UM, SERVICE BAY AREA.

AND SO BEHIND ON THE, ON THE GROUND LEVEL, THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF, UH, MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT.

AND ABOVE THAT MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT, IT'S OPEN TO THE SKY.

BUT BEYOND THAT, BEHIND THAT, THERE IS A BIT OF ROOFING BACK THERE.

AND THAT IS WHAT HAS THIS SCREENING.

AGAIN, WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL SEE THAT IN THE PLAN VIEW, WHICH IS NOT OVER THERE.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

HERE ARE THE PLAN VIEWS.

I'M GONNA MAKE THEM A LITTLE SMALLER BECAUSE THERE'S MORE THERE THAN YOU THINK.

ALRIGHT, SO ON THE, UM, WEST END OF THE BUILDING, THAT'S WHERE THE ROUNDABOUT IS ON THAT END.

UM, AND THERE IS, LIKE I SAID, THAT FIRST FLOOR ROOF THAT HAD THE RAILING AROUND IT.

AND THEN I MENTIONED THE SCREENING.

THIS IS THE SCREENING, IT'S NOT, IT'S IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ROOF, NOT, UH, UP AGAINST THE RAILING.

UH, AND SO THERE'S SOME MECHANICAL EQUIPMENT THAT'S GOING IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT ROOF.

UH, THERE ARE ALSO TWO ADDITIONAL SMALL, UH, PATIOS ON THE ROOF THAT THEY ARE ALSO, UH, PUTTING SOME RAILING AND SCREENING AROUND, UM, UH, AS WELL.

AND THEN ON THIS PART OF THE DRAWING HERE, THIS IS THEN THE EAST END OF THE BUILDING, UH, LOOKING TOWARDS THE CONVENTION CENTER.

AND THERE ARE THIS, UH, BIG WHITE AREA IS THEN THAT

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UM, UH, BUT, UH, THIS ON THE LEFT SIDE, THIS LARGER RECTANGLE HERE IS ACTUALLY ROOFING AT THAT LEVEL, SO ABOVE THE FIRST FLOOR.

UM, SO, UH, THEY'RE ALSO ADDING THEN TWO ADDITIONAL PATIOS FOR, UH, ROOMS THERE AS WELL.

AND THEY TOO HAVE THAT RAILING AND SCREEN PRIVACY SCREENING BETWEEN THEM.

ALRIGHT, SO FOR THE DOORS, UM, THE, THE, UM, HAVE TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UH, WITH REGARD TO THE FLOODING.

AND SO THEY'RE PROPOSING TO ADD, UH, FLOOD PANELS, TEMPORARY FLOOD PANELS OR EMERGENCY FLOOD PANELS MAYBE IS MAYBE A BETTER WAY OF PUTTING IT BECAUSE, UH, MOST OF THE TIME THEY'RE NOT THERE.

UH, AND THEN IN THE EVENT OF AN EMERGENCY, UH, THE, THE BUILDING HAS A SERIES OF HOLES WITH, UH, SLEEVES IN THEM, UH, TO ALLOW FOR THESE PANELING, THIS, THESE METAL PANELS TO BE INSTALLED, UH, IN ORDER TO PROTECT THE DOORWAYS FROM THE FLOODING.

SO, UM, WE WANT TO SEE THAT LARGER OR HAVE ANY OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT IT.

UM, IT'S, UH, EASY TO INSTALL, ET CETERA.

SO IT JUST AMOUNT FOR, FOR OUR PURPOSES, IT JUST AMOUNTS TO A COUPLE OF, UH, YOU KNOW, A SERIES OF HOLES IN THE FLOOR AND ON THE WALLS.

AND THAT IS SOME DOCUMENTS THEY'VE PROVIDED THAT ARE JUST THE APPLICATION AND THINGS.

AND THEN HERE THEY HAVE SOME PHOTOGRAPHS, UH, OF THE EXISTING BUILDING IN CASE WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS.

AND THEN, UH, FOR THE ZONING AND INSPECTIONS, CAN'T READ THAT.

UH, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR HAS INDICATED THAT IT MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE LAND USE ORDINANCE AND THE TWO BUILDING INSPECTORS INDICATED THAT IT WILL OF COURSE REQUIRE A BUILDING PERMIT WITH BUILDING AND FLOODPLAIN DEVELOPMENT PERMITS REQUIRED.

AND THEN WE'RE READY WITH OUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

DO THE, UH, DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY COMMENTS YOU WANT TO ADD? NO, IT'S AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY PROPONENTS OR OPPONENTS OF THE PLAN WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? LET'S SEE.

NONE READY FOR YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS.

ALRIGHT THEN.

SO WE'LL MAKE THESE A LITTLE BIT BIGGER.

THERE WE GO.

SO THIS IS A PROJECT FOR, UM, JOHN HAROLDSON AND M B F ARCHITECTS, UH, AT SEVEN WHO, OH, SORRY.

RIGHT, THIS IS ONE OF THE ERRORS.

ALRIGHT, HERE IT'S AT 100 CRAVEN STREET.

THAT WAS THE EXTRA HANDOUT I GAVE YOU GUYS.

UM, AND THIS IS A NON-CONTRIBUTING STRUCTURE AND THE PROJECT IS TO INCLUDE WINDOWS AND DOORS REPLACEMENT, NEW FLOOD BARRIER MECHANICAL SCREENING AND SITE WORK IN ALL ABCS.

STAFF SUBMITS THE FOLLOWING HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES AS APPROPRIATE TO THIS APPLICATION FOR UTILITIES 2.3 0.1 AND TWO FOR DESIGN PRINCIPLES.

3.1 0.4 FOR MODIFICATIONS, 3.2, 0.12 AND FOUR FOR WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS.

4.3 0.3 FOR ROOFS.

4.5 0.6 FOR PAINT, 5.4 0.2 FOR CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 0.1, TWO AND THREE.

AND THE STATEMENTS OF REASON BASED ON THE INFORMATION CONTAINED IN THE APPLICATION AND STAFF'S JUDGMENT.

R ONE, THE PROJECT IS MODIFICATION TO CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

TWO, THE PROPOSED BUILDING LOCATION MEETS, OOPS, THAT'S THE OTHER CHANGE.

NUMBER TWO, THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.

THREE, THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL HAVE REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.

AND FOUR, THE PROJECT IS NOT INCONGRUOUS FOR THE GUIDELINES.

SO STAFF RECOMMENDS THE COMMISSION APPROVED THIS APPLICATION TO INCLUDE WINDOWS AND DOORS REPLACEMENT,

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OKAY.

QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THE COMMISSION? NO, I, I THINK THAT THE CHANGES YOU'RE PROPOSING, CERTAINLY BECAUSE IT'S A, UM, NOT CONTRIBUTING, YOU'RE USING CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS THAT I THINK WILL HELP FLOOD MITIGATION AND MOST OF THAT IS EITHER FLOOD DAMAGE REPAIR OR FLOOD MITIGATION.

AND I THINK IT, IT STILL RETAINS THE CHARACTER OF THE BUILDING.

THE MATERIALS ARE PROPER, UH, THE CHANGES ARE REALLY PROBABLY NOT NOTICEABLE ONCE IT'S FINISHED.

AND SO IT WAS REALLY COMMEND YOU ON THE JOB YOU DID GOOD.

OTHER COMMENTS? HE SAID EXACTLY WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY.

, OBVIOUSLY WHAT WE SAID IS A DESIGN REVIEW.

YOU NEED A RAISE .

OKAY, WE READY FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION FOR, UH, 100 CREEK .

OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, I MOVE.

WE FIND THE APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS FOR 100 C CRAVEN STREET TO BE NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH NEW BERN'S CODE OF ORDINANCE SECTIONS 15,411 TO 15,429 AND NEW BERN'S HISTORIC DISTRICT GUIDELINES BASED ON THE FOLLOWING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES AND FINDINGS OF FACT, UTILITIES 2.31 AND TWO DESIGN PRINCIPLES, 3.4 MODIFICATIONS, 3.2 0.2 AND FOUR WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS, 4.32 AND THREE ROOFS, 4.5 0.6 PAINT 5.42, CONTEMPORARY MATERIALS, 5.5 0.12 AND THREE.

AND STATE FINDINGS OF FACT, THE PROJECT IS MODIFICATIONS WITHIN THE WATERFRONT DEVELOPMENT PATTERN.

THE PROPOSED DESIGN COMPONENTS AND MATERIALS MEET THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE GUIDELINES.

THE ZONING ADMINISTRATOR AND CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL REVIEWED THIS PROJECT AND COMMENTED ACCORDINGLY.

AND THE PROJECT IS NOT INCONGRUOUS WITH THE GUIDELINES.

SECOND FOR THE MOTION.

SECOND MOVE AND SECONDED.

WE CAN I, UH, MAKE ONE CLARIFICATION? YEP.

UM, I THINK, JIM, YOU MENTIONED, UH, SECTION 4.3 0.2.

DID YOU MEAN TO INCLUDE THAT OR I'M SORRY, I READ THE OTHER SHEET.

NO, I, 4.3 0.2 IS, IS NEW OPENINGS, WHICH IS NOT RIGHT.

RIGHT.

SO IT SHOULD STRIKE I'LL TO ONE, EXCLUDE 4.32 AND ONLY HAVE 4.3 0.3.

OKAY.

AND MR. RUSH SECONDER AGREES.

I SECOND THAT.

OKAY.

OKAY.

DUBIN SECONDED.

WE APPROVED THE APPLICATION THAT CHANGE.

ALL IN FAVOR? STATE AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? MOTIONS.

OPPOSED NEED A MOTION TO ISSUE A C O A FOR THAT 100.

CRAVEN.

SO MOVED.

MOVED AND SECONDED.

WE, UH, ISSUE THE C O A WHO DID THE ALL IN FAVOR? STATE? AYE.

AYE.

I THINK GREG AND CANDACE BOTH GREG.

YEAH.

PICK ONE.

SO I GET TO PICK , UH, AND A MOTION TO APPROVE THE, UH, WRITTEN DECISION.

UH, SECOND MOVE.

WELL THE WRITTEN DECISION AND THE COPY WE HAVE NEEDS TO BE AMENDED TO REMOVE 4.3 0.2 CORRECT AMENDMENT.

OH, IS THAT WHERE YOU GOT THAT? YEAH.

OH, YEP.

OKAY.

BUT THAT DID HAVE THE RIGHT FINDINGS.

EVERYTHING ELSE.

OKAY.

OKAY.

SO YOU, TIM, YOU MAY ADMIT THE BUSH AND RIGHT, YEAH.

MOTION TO APPROVE THE WRITTEN DECISION, UH, WITH THE AMENDMENT OF UNDER D, WINDOWS, DOORS AND OPENINGS.

4.3 0.2 IS REMOVED.

OKAY.

AND SECOND.

A SECOND IT THAT WAY.

OKAY.

ALL IN FAVOR STATE AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? HEARING NONE.

OKAY.

DO WE HAVE THE, OH, WE DON'T DO, DO WE NEED THE FOLKS FROM THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT AUTHORITY TO NO.

OKAY.

WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO THEN? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, YOU UM,

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WE HAVE NONE.

WE HAVE NONE.

MM-HMM.

, GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENTS? NO PUBLIC COMMENTS.

THEY'RE GONE.

THERE'S NO PUBLIC, THERE'S NO PUBLIC .

UH, OKAY.

SO OUR

[7.A. Trent Court – consider requesting a letter from the State Historic Preservation Office regarding whether Trent Court is classified as being of Statewide Importance.]

IT'S COURT.

SO, UM, FOR THIS ONE, UH, THEY HAVE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION THAT WILL BE COMING UP AT OUR DESIGN REVIEW MEETING, UH, FOR, UH, DEMOLITION OF WHAT THEY CALL PHASE ONE.