Oct 11, 2023 Redevelopment Commission

I HOPE YOU'VE ALL HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE AGENDA.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS THE AGENDA.

[3. Approve the Agenda]

AND WE NEED TO APPROVE THE AGENDA FOR THE PEN.

MIKE'S MEETING.

SO MOVED.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

OF THE AUGUST 9TH, NINTH REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED? LIKE, SIGN MOTION IS PASSED.

THE AGENDA IS APPROVED IN YOUR PACKET.

YOU RECEIVED THE MINUTES

[4. Approval of Minutes (August)]

HOPE YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO TAKE A LOOK AT THEM.

ARE THERE ANY COMMENTS, ADDITIONS, CORRECTIONS THAT ANYONE HAS NOTED? IF NOT, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 9TH MEETING.

SO MOVED.

OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

THAT SECOND.

THEY GOT A STRONG SIDE OF THE, OF THE ROOM HERE, UH, TO APPROVE THE AUGUST 9TH MEETING.

MINUTES.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE.

OPPOSED MINUTES ARE APPROVED.

OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES

[5. Guiding Principles]

AND SARAH, SO YOU GET TO SAY SOMETHING.

WE'RE GONNA START WITH YOU THIS EVENING.

ALL RIGHT.

UH, PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE, EQUAL TIME.

MR. DI HUNT NUMBER TWO, IF YOU WILL.

I HAVE A COUPLE COMMENTS.

UH, AND I GUESS IN, ON OR NOT, AND I GUESS IT'S APPROPRIATE TIME TO COMMENT ON IT.

NO.

RIGHT NOW WE'RE DOING THE, THESE, UH, GUIDING PRINCIPLES OF THE OH, OKAY.

I DID READ THAT.

JUST READING NUMBER TWO, FOUR US MR. DI HUNT.

RESPECT OTHERS.

OPINION NUMBER THREE.

LISTEN TO BUILD, TO BUILD CONSENSUS.

SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION.

I'M DO MY BEST THERE.

AND REMIND ANYBODY THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK THIS EVENING THAT WE'RE LIMITED TO FOUR MINUTES.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS PUBLIC COMMENTS.

[6. Public Comments (limit of 4 minutes)]

UH, HAS ANYONE SIGNED UP TO OR LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS THIS EVENING? OKAY.

[7. Consider a resolution approving the purchase of 1307 Main Street.]

A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE PURCHASE OF 1307 MAIN STREET.

HOPEFULLY YOU ALL REMEMBER.

THIS IS AS A LONG STANDING, UH, PROCESS THAT STARTED OCTO WELL, A YEAR AGO, I THINK AUGUST, A YEAR AGO IN OCTOBER.

UH, IT, IT CAME BEFORE THE BOARD.

AND SOMEHOW GOT LOST IN THE SHUFFLE.

IT GOT OCTOBER.

IT JUST GOT LOST.

IT GOT LOST .

AND IT, IT, IT GOT BROUGHT UP AGAIN BACK, UH, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO THAT, UH, MRS. JACKIE LONDON, UH, WANTED TO PURCHASE 1307 MAIN STREET.

AND THE HOUSING WORK GROUP.

UH, THAT REQUEST WAS, UH, REFERRED TO THE HOUSING WORK GROUP.

THEY LOOKED AT IT AND APPROVED OR RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF, UH, GOING TO THE UPSET BID PROCESS TO ALLOW MRS. LONDON TO PURCHASE THAT.

UM, SO OUR ACTION DECEIVED THAT'S REQUIRED IS TO ACCEPT THE VOTE TO ACCEPT, UH, THE OFFER AND RECOMMEND, UH, AND FORWARD IT TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN FOR THEIR REVIEW AND APPROVAL.

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SO MOVED.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UH, ROLL CALL, PLEASE.

MR. VICE CHAIR.

WELL, I, LET ME HAVE A, IS THERE ANY MORE DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS PROCESS AND WHAT WE'RE DOING? OKAY.

YES, I DO HAVE, HAS EVERYBODY HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT THE ACTUAL PROPERTY AND NOT LOOK AT IT ON THE MAP? HAVE YOU ACTUALLY SEEN THE PROPERTY? MM-HMM.

, HAS EVERYBODY SEEN THE PROPERTY? DO, DO THEY KNOW YOU AND I LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY.

YOU HAVE SEEN IT? YEAH.

I, I TOLD HIM MR. ADDRESS.

BUT THAT WAS MY MAIN CONCERN.

YOU HAVE NOT SEEN THE PROPERTY.

DO YOU KNOW WHERE THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED? NO.

GOING OFF OF MAIN STREET TO THE BACK WHERE THE OLD TENNIS COURTS WERE.

ADJACENT TO JACKIE LONDON'S HOUSE.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AND WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

ARE YOU AWARE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? MR. OKAY.

THAT'S ALL.

AND YOU ALSO NOTE THAT, UH, THE RESOLUTION AND THE DEEDED THAT IN THE PACKET HAS RESTRICTED COVENANTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT MM-HMM.

BECAUSE IT'S CORRECT.

OWNED BY THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION RATHER THAN THE CITY OR THE CITY COUNTY.

UH, THEREFORE WE WERE ABLE TO APPLY PROTECTIVE COVENANTS.

AND SO JUST MAKE SURE EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS EVERYTHING.

PROTECTIVE COVENANTS IN THAT AREA.

WHAT ARE THEY? UH, IT'S BASICALLY, UH, TO NOT ALLOW, UH, INOPERABLE CARS TO BE STORED ON THE PROPERTY AND JUNK CARS.

AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

SO IT DOESN'T BECOME A, A REPOSITORY FOR INOPERABLE VEHICLES.

AND I GUESS YOU DO KNOW THERE'S A FLOOD AREA ON THERE TOO.

OH, YEAH.

THAT IT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? MR. VICE CHAIR? TO, TO MR. DILLA HUNT'S POINT, THERE IS A THIRD RESTRICTIVE COVENANT THAT NO STRUCTURE SHALL BE ERECTED, PLACED TO PERMIT IT TO REMAIN ON THE REAL PROPERTY, WHICH ADDRESSES THE FLOODING SITUATION.

THAT THEY CAN'T BUILD ANYTHING ON IT.

UM, RIGHT.

BECAUSE IT IS IN THE FLOOD.

I'M AWARE THAT, OKAY.

AND THERE ARE TWO REPORTS, UH, SINCE WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING.

WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL.

WE'VE HAD A MOTION IN A SECOND.

NOW WE GET INTO, UH, SOME REPORTS FROM OUR DIFFERENT WORKING GROUPS THAT WE HAVE.

AND THE FIRST ONE IS THE HOUSING WORK GROUP.

[8. Housing Working Group Report]

AND THE, THE HOUSING WORLD GROUP HAS MET TWICE, UH, SINCE OUR LAST MEETING.

UM, THERE THEY'VE BEEN IN YOUR PACKET.

I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH AND, AND LABOR OR ANY OF THESE THINGS.

UH, BUT IN, IN THE AUGUST MEETING WE WORKED WITH JORDAN HUGHES, THE CITY ENGINEER WHO WAS ASSIGNED BY THE CITY TO, UH, WORK WITH US IN PUTTING TOGETHER PACKAGES AND SO FORTH FOR THE, UH, WALK BELLAMY STREET HOUSING AND TO, UH, PUT TOGETHER A LIST OF CONTRACTORS THAT WE COULD SOLICIT BIDS FROM.

MA'AM.

UH, WE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE RECENT CHANGES TO THE PURCHASE OF CITY AND CITY COUNTY OWNED PROPERTIES IN THE REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY AND THE POTENTIAL IMPACTS TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

UH, UM, I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE AWARE OF WHAT HAD HAPPENED THERE THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE ANY SAY.

UH, AND THAT WE DON'T EVEN, THEY DON'T EVEN ASK ABOUT US, ABOUT THE SALE OF PROPERTY IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

NOW.

UH, THE CITY AUBURN MAKE ALL THOSE DECISIONS WITHOUT ANY INPUT FROM US.

UM, WE REVIEWED THE CURRENT MOW COST FOR THE R D C LOTS RECENTLY INVOICED BY THE CITY.

REMEMBER, WE'RE GETTING A MONTHLY BILL FOR ABOUT $1,400.

THAT'S COVERING ALL THE LOTS THAT WE OWN.

THAT'S ALL LOTS THAT WE OWN.

UH, WE DISCUSSED THAT MAYBE GOING FORWARD THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE, UH, OWNERSHIP OF OUR, THE LOTS THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DOES OWN.

'CAUSE WHEN YOU START COUPLING, UM, THE COST FOR INSURANCE AND THE MOWING THAT'S GOES ON FOR SIX MONTHS OUT OF EVERY YEAR, AND THE FACT THAT SOME OF THE LOTS ARE IN FLOOD AND BAD IN THE FLOODPLAIN MM-HMM.

, UH, DO WE NEED TO OWN 'EM? MAYBE WE CAN GIVE 'EM BACK TO THE CITY.

LET THEM MOW.

SO ANYHOW, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE PROBABLY NEED TO LOOK FORWARD TO AS

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A PROJECT GOING FORWARD.

, UM, WE DISCUSSED THE JACK JUSTIN BECK PRESENTATION, UH, MADE TO THE COMMISSION AT OUR LAST MEETING AND DECIDED THAT BASED ON THE NEW CITY POLICY, WE HAVE NO INPUT INTO THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY SINCE IT'S CITY COUNTY OWNED.

, UH, AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS ON OCTOBER 5TH, UH, WE HAD THE EXTREME PLEASURE OF REVIEWING BIDS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED TO BUILD THE THREE HOUSES ON WALL, FELONY DRIVE.

UH, WE HAD JORDAN HUGHES COME TO OUR MEETING, UH, WHO HAD HANDLED MOST OF THAT WORK.

AND YOU HAVE SEEN THE, THE BIDS THAT WE RECEIVED THE HOPE AND PAY ATTENTION TO 'EM.

UM, AND WE, AFTER REVIEWING THE BIDS AND LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATIONS, UH, THAT MR. HUGHES HAS HAD AND THAT MS. WALKER HAD HAD WITH THE LOW BIDDER IMAC, UH, WE, WE RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE THREE BIDS FROM IMAC TO THE COMMISSION FOR ACCEPTANCE.

UH, I NOTICED THEY, THEY DID A BID PER HOUSE.

IS THAT CORRECT? YES.

BID PER HOUSE.

A BID PER HOUSE? THAT'S CORRECT.

AND LOOKED LIKE HIS PRICE THE SAME ON ALL OF 'EM.

NO.

WELL, IT'S 1 35 ON THAT ONE.

AND ANYWAY, OKAY, I GOT IT.

BUT HE HAD THE LOWEST BID ON ALL THREE.

AND WE'LL GET TO THE DETAILS OF THAT.

THIS, I'M JUST GOING THROUGH THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE HOUSING WORK GROUP AT THIS PARTICULAR JUNCTURE.

UM, THE HOUSING WORK GROUP RECOMMENDED THAT WE APPROVE A BUDGET FOR THE THREE HOMES PER THE SUBMITTED BID, PLUS 10% CONTINGENCY TO COVER ANY CHANGE ORDERS THAT MAY BE NECESSARY.

UH, THIS WILL ENSURE THAT EACH CHANGE ORDER WILL NOT HAVE TO COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION FOR APPROVAL.

THUS, DELAYING WORK ON THE HOMES, CHANGE ORDERS WILL BE REVIEWED AND APPROVED BY MR. HUGHES AND, AND BY OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

UM, IN THAT PROCESS, THIS IS A, THIS IS A PROCESS WITH THE CITY ACCOUNTING PROCESS THAT WILL ALLOW US TO, UH, EXPEDITING THE, THE WORK ON THESE HOUSES WITHOUT, UH, BEING CAUGHT UP IN A BUNCH OF RED TAPE.

AND THAT'S GOOD.

AND DECISION MAKING, SO FORTH.

GOOD IDEA.

UH, CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT OF THE HOMES WILL BE PERFORMED BY THE CITY EMPLOYEES UNDER DIRECTION OF MR. HUGHES AND MR. HOWELL.

UM, SELECTION OF MATERIALS AND COVERS, UH, WILL BE COORDINATED BY MS. WALKER, WHO'S AN ARCHITECT.

AND THEN WE NEED TO DESIGN A SIGN PROMOTING THE PROJECT AS WELL AS HAVING A FORMAL GROUND BREAKING EVENT ON THAT SITE.

AND THEN, UH, Z IS TO CONTINUE CONVERSATIONS WITH HABITAT AND HOUSING AUTHORITY ABOUT COOPERATION AND POSSIBLE JOINT VENTURES IN THE FUTURE.

BUT ANYHOW, THAT'S HOUSING WORK GROUP REPORT WE DO AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN UP TO IN THE LAST TWO MONTHS.

ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE HOUSING WORK GROUP? I HAVE NO COMMENT ON THAT.

UM, IS HAMILTON THE ONLY NON-PROFIT THAT YOU TALKED TO ABOUT PARTNERING UP WITH? NO.

WHO ELSE HAVE YOU TALKED TO? UH, WE TALKED TO ANYBODY.

I MEAN, HAVE YOU TALKED TO ANYBODY ELSE? I, IS THAT, UH, OUTSIDE THE HOUSING, UH, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ITSELF AND HABITAT, UH, FOR HUMANITY.

WE HAVE NOT ENGAGED ANYONE ELSE, BUT WE'D BE WILLING TO ENGAGE ANYONE WHO'S INTERESTED IN, IN, UH, PARTNERING WITH THE, THE COMMISSION AT YOUR DIRECTION.

OF COURSE.

WE HAD COASTAL COMMUNITY ACTION.

THAT'S A GOOD THING.

BOTH OF, NO, I'M SORRY, NEWPORT.

THEY HAVE PARTNERED WITH FOLKS IN NEW AND ALSO HAVE SOME PROPERTY IN NEW.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR SOMEONE POSSIBLE.

UH, KAA AND I HAVE A REALLY GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

I'LL REACH OUT TO HER.

SAY AGAIN.

KAA HEAD, SHE'S THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

I'LL REACH OUT TO HER.

WE HAVE A GOOD RELATIONSHIP.

THEY HAVE A NE, I DON'T KNOW ATTITUDES ON, BUT I KNOW THEY DO OWN SOME PROPERTY IN GRO AND, AND JUST TO KIND OF KEEP YOU UP, GET AT YOU UP TO DATE, MR. DEMA, I THINK THE IDEA OF US REACHING OUT TO NON-PROFITS PROBABLY CAME UP ABOUT TWO MONTHS AGO, THREE MONTHS AGO.

'CAUSE WE HAD AN ISSUE WITH HOUSING.

WE SAID THE ONLY WAY WE CAN REALLY DO IT IS WE GOTTA GIVE IT TO A NONPROFIT.

SO THAT'S DEON NONPROFIT.

THAT'S HOW, THAT'S HOW IT CAME UP.

BUT I GUESS ABOUT THREE MEDIUMS AGO.

BUT D WE JUST THOUGHT I MENTIONED THAT.

AND IF ANY OTHER ORGANIZATIONS COME TO MIND, LET MR. LET JEFF KNOW.

AND WE WOULD EASILY DIRECT STAFF TO MAKE THOSE CONTACTS.

OR IF ANYONE HEARING THIS MEETING KNOWS OF THE NONPROFIT, THEY'D BE INTERESTED.

PLEASE HAVE 'EM REACH OUT TO YES.

MR. HUFF.

SEE, UH, NOTE HERE, THE CONTRACTOR LIST THAT WAS, UH, CREATED, UH, MAINLY BY, UH, MR. HUGHES, THE CITY REPRESENTATIVE HOMELAND PROJECT.

AND WHERE DID YOU GET THE CONTRACT LIST FROM? THAT I

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HE WAS LOOKING AT CONTRACTORS THAT HAD DONE WORK FOR THE CITY IN THE PAST AND THEY HAD KNOWLEDGE OF THEM.

AND WE ALSO, IF YOU REMEMBER AT THE LAST MEETING, WE ASKED THE COMMISSION, OR TWO MEETINGS AGO IF THE COMMISSION HAD ANY RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONTRACTORS TO CONTACT, UH, TO LET US KNOW.

AND WE HEARD FROM NO ONE.

SO WE WENT WITH THAT.

AS YOU CAN SEE, WE, WE WENT OUT TO FIVE DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS, UH, WITH INFORMATION AND FOUR OF 'EM RETURNED BIDS.

UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THIS REPORT, UH, NOW WOULD BE A GOOD TIME FOR US TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION AND THE CONSIDERATION OF APPROVING THE WALT FELONY, UH, HOUSING PROJECT BIDS FOR THE THREE HOUSES TO BE BUILT THERE AS SUBMITTED WITH AND RECOMMENDATION TO ADD 10% CONTINGENCY TO THOSE BIDS FOR ACCOUNTING PURPOSES.

SHOULD THIS BE APPROVED PER HOUSE OR AT THE TOTAL PACKAGE OF ALL THREE? YOU CAN APPROVE ALL THREE ASSUMING YOUR VOTE IS UNANIMOUS.

AND ALSO, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT THE MOTION CONTAIN LANGUAGE TO APPROVE ANY AND ALL CHANGE ORDERS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE SPECIFICATIONS THAT ARE ACCEPTED IN THE BIDS.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE BID FOR THE THREE HOUSES WITH ANY, UH, ADDITION TO, UH, COVER ANY CONTINGENCIES OR ANY, UM, CHANGE ORDERS.

CHANGE ORDERS.

SO THE, THE BID PLUS 10%? CORRECT.

THE I M E C GROUP BID.

IS THAT? YES.

SORRY.

ALRIGHT, I'LL SECOND.

I'M SORRY.

I SHOULD HAVE PUT HALF I M E C BID ON THE THREE HOUSES.

VERY GOOD.

AND MR. MORGAN, DID I HEAR A SECOND FROM YOU? YOU HAVE HEARD A SECOND.

SO WE HAVE MOTION AND SECOND, ANY FURTHER CONSIDERATION AND CONVERSATION ABOUT I DO HAVE ONE.

UH, ARE WE BUILDING ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSES? AREN'T WE JUST BUILDING HOUSES UP TO THE CODE? WE'RE BUILDING A, THE BEST WE CAN DO INSULATION MEETS CODE AND THE, UH, THE H V A C SYSTEM IS IN THE SPECIFICATIONS WAS A MINIMUM RATING OF 14.

IN DISTRIBUTION IS REALLY 15.

WELL, SO THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT TO YOU.

AND, AND LIKE I SAID, THE MINIMUM ACCEPTABLE IS 14 PER THE SPECIFICATIONS.

AND I PRESUMED 35 YEAR CH YES.

I HAVE WRITTEN, READ, SELECT, YEAH.

AND HOW MANY DAYS DO THEY HAVE THE BEAUTY HOUSES? THEY HAVE HUNDRED 80, I BELIEVE.

AND A WARRANTY OF HOW GET A ONE YEAR WARRANTY.

180 DAYS IS THEIR ESTIMATE, ISN'T IT? YES.

I DON'T THINK WE'RE NECESSARILY, WE, WE HAVE NOT LOCKED IN, UH, WITH ANY CONTRACT WITH A BUILDER LIKE THAT.

YOU HAVE WEATHER, YOU KNOW, PERMISSION FOR DELAYS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

UNFORESEEN STUFF.

AND THEY'LL BE STARTING IN DECEMBER, I THINK IT SAYS.

UH, NO, I THINK THEY'RE PLANNING ON STARTING THE END OF THIS MONTH.

OH.

THEY'RE FINISHING UP A PROJECT IN GREENVILLE RIGHT NOW AT E C U AND THEY LET US KNOW THAT, UH, AS SOON AS THEY FINISH THAT UP AND BUTTON IT UP, THAT THEY WILL MOVE OVER TO THIS PROJECT.

AND THAT SHOULD BE BY THE END OF THIS MONTH.

GOOD DEAL.

IT'S GOOD TO SEE SOMETHING THAT WOULD PUSH AND COME, COME ALIVE.

AND IF YOU, IF YOU LOOK AT THE, THIS, THIS DETAILED SPECS, I MEAN, WE'RE LANDSCAPING AND SOBBING THE YARDS AND WE'RE GRADING AND ALL THAT STUFF'S ALL INCLUDED IN THERE.

BUT, UH, IT, IT'S A TRUE TERM KEY PROJECT.

AND LOOKING AT THE PLAN, I'M, I'M PRESUMING ON THE SLAB.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND WE'VE HAD DISCUSSION.

UM, WE WILL NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS.

LEAN AND MORGAN? YES.

NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD

[9. Neighborhood Working Group Report]

WORKING GROUP.

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MR. MORGAN.

THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.

AND ALONG WITH EVERY SEASON, AND WE HAVE, WE ARE NOW EMBARKING ON ANOTHER SEASON, UM, THE, THE LANDSCAPE IS CONTINUALLY CHANGING IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

AND BEFORE I GIVE MY REPORT, LET ME FIRST SAY THAT I'M VERY PROUD OF MY CITY AND I'M VERY PROUD OF MY COMMUNITY AND VERY PROUD OF THE ALDERMAN THAT ARE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

THE PARKS, THE CITY OWNED LOTS, THE CEMETERIES ARE IN GREAT SHAPE.

THEY'RE LOOKING REAL GOOD AS IT RELATES TO, UH, UPKEEP, MANICURED.

AND IT JUST MAKES A BIG DIFFERENCE TO WHAT'S GOING ON.

UH, I'VE BEEN SEEING SOME, UH, GOOD LIGHTING AND WHEN I SAY ME, I'M TALKING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE I GET OUT AND SPEAK WITH THE COMMUNITY ON A REGULAR BASIS.

WE ARE VERY PLEASED WITH THE LIGHTING THAT IS STILL BEING USED OUT AT HENDERSON PARK.

IT'S WELL LIT AT NIGHT.

IT'S NOT LIKE IT USED TO BE.

IT'S NOT AS DANGEROUS.

A LOT OF THE STREET LIGHTS HAVE BEEN REPAIRED IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND ESPECIALLY IN THE GREATER DUFFY FIELD AREA.

UH, THERE ARE MOUNDS OF EARTH.

SO WE KNOW THAT SOME OTHER GOOD THINGS ARE GONNA BE COMING TO THE HENDERSON PARK AREA AND NOT JUST WITH STANLEY WHITE, BUT IT'S CONTINUALLY, UM, WE'RE, WE ARE CONTINUALLY SEEING PROGRESS IN WORK BEING DONE.

THERE WAS JUST A PUSHOVER AT 1424 WASHINGTON STREET, WHICH WAS THE OLD VILLE HOUSE, WHICH I THINK MAY BE OWNED BY MR. NEWKIRK, UH, WHICH HAS FREED UP THAT WHOLE CORNER.

UM, WE HAVE ALSO SPOKEN WITH MR. ROBIN STANLEY, MR. MCLEOD AS IT RELATES TO THE EXTENSION PROJECT GOING BEHIND HENDERSON PARK FOR THE WALKING TRAIL.

WE ARE AT AN IMPASSE AT THIS POINT, BUT WE ARE STILL WORKING AND VERY HOPEFUL THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE ONE PIECE OF PROPERTY NEEDED TO COMPLETE THAT PROJECT.

UM, JUST A FEW OVERGROWN LOTS NOT OWNED BY THE CITY, BUT ARE OWNED BY INDIVIDUALS.

I'LL BE GETTING WITH MARVIN WILLIAMS AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING THAT.

I ALSO WANTED TO MAKE MENTION THAT I AM, UM, VERY PLEASED AND VERY PROUD TO BE ABLE TO SIT BESIDE MR. JIMMY DILL HUNT, WHO IS VERY WELL KNOWN IN THAT AREA AS A CONTRACTOR, AS A HOME BUILDER, AND AS A PERSON WHO WILL MAKE YOUR HOUSE INTO A HOME.

AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO HIM WORKING WITH US IN THAT REDEVELOPMENT AREA THAT HE KNOWS SO WELL.

AND I WILL SAY THIS BECAUSE I HAVE HIM HERE BESIDE ME NOW.

WE ARE STILL, AND WHEN I SAY WE, I'M TALKING ABOUT MY COMMUNITY, WE ARE STILL VERY WAITING IN ANTICIPATION FOR ONE SHOVEL OF EARTH TO BE OVERTURNED IN THE GREATER DUFFY FIELD AREA FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

I CANNOT GIVE MY COMMUNITY, MY NEIGHBORS, MY FRIENDS, MY CHURCH MEMBERS.

I CANNOT GIVE THEM A GOOD REASON WHY WE HAVE NOT STARTED ONE SINGLE AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT AND HAVE NOT TURNED OVER ONE EARTH OF SHOVEL DIRT TO MAKE PROGRESS SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING DONE TO START A HOUSING PROJECT.

WE ARE MAKING GREAT STRIDES.

UM, EVERYTHING IS MOVING AT A GREAT RATE, BUT WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

WE NEED TO SHOW SOME GOOD FAITH BECAUSE THE CITY HAS ACCUMULATED MORE PROPERTIES.

THE CITY, NOT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY SEES.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHO SPECIFICALLY OWNS WHAT, WHO HAS PURCHASED WHAT.

THEY LOOK AT THE CITY AS ONE ENTITY.

AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE AWARE THAT THEY'RE INVITED AND THAT THEY ARE, UM, KEPT, KEPT ABREAST THAT YES, ONE OF OUR MAIN FOCUSES WILL BE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT WE HAVE TO LET THEM KNOW ALSO THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS ON THE WAY.

AND THIS COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUP.

I HAVE A .

SO, UH, MY NEPHEW HAS TAKEN OVER MY BUSINESS AND, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO PUT HIM ON THE BUSINESS, OF COURSE, THE NEXT BUSINESS THAT GO OUT.

UH, JIMMY DILLON DID MENTION I WAS A CONTRACT.

I RETIRED CONTRACT DUE TO THE BROKEN NECK THAT I HAVE.

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BUT I'M GONNA RETIRE, HAPPILY RETIRE AND ENJOYING LIFE.

I, YOU AND, AND I'LL, I'LL ADDRESS ECSTASY.

UH, MR. VICE CHAIR LOOKING AT ME, UM, HERE, COMING UP IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS, MR. HUFF IS GOING TO BE DOING AN ORIENTATION FOR ALL OF OUR NEW COMMISSIONERS AS WELL AS A REFRESHER FOR SOME OF OUR, UM, SEASONED COMMISSIONERS, THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A LITTLE WHILE.

AND IN THAT, LEMME OWE , INTERPRET THAT HOW YOU WILL .

UM, AND IN THAT ORIENTATION, WE'RE GOING TO COVER A GAMUT OF TOPICS TO INCLUDE THE POWERS OF COMMISSIONS, WHAT YOUR DUTIES ARE, UM, COVERING THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AS IT'S BEEN ADOPTED.

THE C AND I PLAN OTHER, UH, CITY PLANS THAT HAVE, UM, OVERLAP AS WELL AS, UM, SOME STATUTES THAT GOVERN CONFLICTS OF INTEREST AND ETHICAL CONSIDERATIONS.

SO, UM, I I JUST WANNA MAKE EVERYBODY AWARE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO'VE BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE, YOU'VE HEARD THIS BEFORE, BUT I'LL PUT IT IN YOUR HEARING AGAIN, THAT THERE IS A STATUTE THAT GOVERNS, UM, WHO CAN HAVE INTERESTS IN REDEVELOPMENT PROJECTS DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY.

AND YOU ARE CONSTRAINED BY THOSE STATUTES, BY VIRTUE OF YOUR OFFICE.

SO WE'LL DO A DEEPER DIVE INTO THOSE TOPICS, BUT JUST BEAR IN MIND AND REFRESH YOURSELF ON THOSE RULES BECAUSE YOU ARE HELD TO ACCOUNT TO THOSE STANDARDS.

UM, AND I WOULD STRONGLY RECOMMEND FOR YOU TO CONTACT MR. HUFF WITH YOUR AVAILABILITY SO THAT YOU CAN PARTICIPATE IN THAT TRAINING.

COULD YOU GIVE, WELL SAID.

SEND US, SEND US A CONTACT NUMBER FOR HIM PLEASE.

CAN YOU GET A CHANCE? MR. HUFF WILL CERTAINLY DO THAT.

I KEEP THINKING ZAYA, WHO IS HUFF? YES.

AND I JUST HAVE ONE MORE THING IN RESPONSE TO, UH, MR. DILL HUNT AND WHAT I WAS MAKING MENTION OF WAS WHETHER HE'S RETIRED OR NOT.

UH, HE DIDN'T RETIRE FROM HAVING THE KNOWLEDGE THAT'S RIGHT.

THAT HE'S HAD OVER ALL OF THESE YEARS.

NOT TO SAY THAT HE WAS GONNA GET OUT HERE AND BUILD SOMETHING, BUT I KNOW THAT HE HAS KNOWLEDGE AND WE RESPECT THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HE HAS IN TERMS OF LONGEVITY.

SO EVEN THOUGH HE MAY BE RETIRED FROM, WELL, HE STILL GETS A PAYCHECK, I'M SURE, BUT WHETHER HE RETIRED FROM WORKING OR NOT, HE HAS NOT RETIRED FROM ALL OF THE KNOWLEDGE THAT HE HAS GAINED IN THE MANY YEARS THAT HE HAS SERVED OUR CITY AND OUR COMMUNITY.

WITH THE CITY AND I'VE INCLUDED MISS ROYAL, UH, MOND ROYAL IN IT AS WELL.

I BELIEVE ALDERMAN BEST, UH, YES.

ONE TO MAKE A COMMENT IN REFERENCE TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

UM, I'D LIKE TO JUST FEEDBACK OF SOME OF THE COMMENTS, UM, THAT MR. MORGAN HAS GIVEN YOU.

UM, NOW I KNOW A LOT OF YOU ARE, UM, FAMILIAR WITH THE DUFFY FIELD COMMUNITY AND THE AREAS THAT FLOOD, THAT IS ONE OF THE PROBLEMS FOR HIS HOUSING IS CONCERNED NOW.

AND I KNOW THAT REDEVELOPMENT GROUP HAS A LOT OF PROPERTIES WITHIN THE DUFFY HILL COMMUNITY HAVE NOW EXPLORED THAT OPTION OF LOOKING AT SOME OF THOSE LOTS AND SEEING IF HOUSES CAN BE BUILT ON.

I KNOW THIS BOWMAN, WHEN SHE WAS IN, SHE GOT A LIST OF ALL OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WAS IN THE FLOOD ZONE OR WASN'T IN THE FLOOD ZONE.

SO I DON'T KNOW HOW, UM, WITH THAT INFORMATION, WHERE IS LOTS IS CONCERNED WITHIN THE AREA THAT Y'ALL CAN POSSIBLY LOOK AT SOME OF THOSE AND TRY TO EXPEDITE THE PROCESS OF GETTING SOME HOUSES BUILT IN THAT AREA.

AS MR. MORGAN MENTIONED, THERE'S NO BEEN NO SHELL RED.

THAT'S ONE OF THE ISSUES I'M DEALING WITH IS FLOOD AREAS.

AND AS WELL, THE CITY DO OWN LOTS WITHIN THE DUFFY FIELD COMMUNITY, BUT SOME THOSE LOTS IN FLOOD ZONE.

SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY A, A HARD TASK OF TRYING TO DEVELOP A COMMUNITY OVER THERE AND BRING IN NEW HOUSING WHEN YOU ARE AT A STANDPOINT OF WHO'S GONNA WANT TO BUILD IN AN AREA ON A LOT THAT'S IN THE FRESNO ZONE.

AND THERE'S SO MANY ZONING RESTRICTIONS.

THERE'S SO MUCH THAT'S INVOLVED WITH IT.

IT'S WHEN IT COMES TO BEING COSTLY.

BUT IT CAN'T HAPPEN IF, IF, IF WE WERE HARD ENOUGH.

AND I'M SO GLAD THAT WE HAVE MR. DIVAN WITH US BECAUSE HE HAS A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE THAT HE CAN GIVE THIS COMMISSION TO WORK TOWARDS BILLING HOUSES.

UM, AND SECONDLY, UM, MR. MORGAN, UM, I HAD TALKED WITH MR. ASSISTANT C MANAGER, MR. WILLIAMS, AND HE HAD MENTIONED, AND I KNOW YOU MENTIONED TONIGHT, MR. STANLEY, IS THAT STILL AT A STANDSTILL FOR HIS TALKING ABOUT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY? BECAUSE THAT'S A PROJECT THAT I IMPLEMENTED

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THE, THE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT THE CITY OWNS THEIR OWN SUTTON AND GARDEN STREET, THAT THEY HAVE DONE A CUT THROUGH FROM THAT BUSH AREA TO BRING IN A BRIDGE TO COME ACROSS THAT AREA THAT WOULD TIE INTO A SIDE WALL ON GARDEN STREET.

SO THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT'S IN MACON.

BUT AS YOU SAID, AND MR. WILLIAMS TOLD ME THAT YOU WERE GONNA SPEAK TO MR. STANLEY BECAUSE YOU KNEW HIM WELL, AND WE HAVE LOOKED AT AND IN, UH, CURRENTLY THE PIECE OF PROPERTY ACROSS FROM 4 0 8, SORRY, FROM 1408, UM, THERE WAS A TRAILER THAT WAS THERE.

THAT TRAILER HAS, IS IN THE PROCESS OF BEING TAKEN DOWN, MOVED OUT AND BEING CLEARED.

THE PROPERTY ADJACENT IS BELONGS TO THE SAME PERSON.

THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO THAT PROPERTY IS THE ONE THAT MR. STANLEY OWNS.

SO AS HE'S SEEING THOSE TWO PROPERTIES BEING CLEANED OFF AND CLEARED OFF, HE'S HAVING A BETTER VISUAL AND AN UNDERSTANDING THAT WE NEED IT, WE WOULD LIKE IT AND WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO BE A PART OF IT.

AND EVEN MR. WILLIAMS HAS COME AND PUT SOME INCENTIVE ON THE TABLE, UH, THAT I TOLD MR. WILLIAMS THAT I WOULD NOT PRESENT TO MR. STANLEY, BUT I WOULD LIKE FOR HIM TO PRESENT IT AS AN OFFICIAL OF THE CITY.

AND HE AGREED ALSO.

BUT I FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE THIS WEEK THAN I DID LAST WEEK, IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.

UM, YES.

'CAUSE I REALLY WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT COME TO FRUITION.

I THINK IT WOULD BE AN ADDED SAFETY NUMBER ONE, SAFETY FOR OUR CITIZENS THAT WALK DOWN GARDEN STREET AND UTILIZE THAT AREA.

IT HAS A GREAT TIE IN TO THE NEW STANDING WHITE REC CENTER.

SO, UM, IT HAS BEEN MENTIONED TO QUITE A FEW OF THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT BECAUSE THEY KNOW IT'S FOR THEIR SAFETY.

IT'S FOR THEIR CONVENIENCE AND IT'S GONNA LOOK BETTER BECAUSE IT'S GONNA CUT OFF A PIECE OF THAT CORNER ALSO FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT KNOW THE AREA.

UM, BUT SO THE COMMUNITY'S GETTING BEHIND IT, THEY'RE, UH, EXCITED ABOUT IT.

AND ALSO, AS I SAID, AS IT GETS CLEARED OFF, I FEEL A LOT BETTER THIS WEEK THAN I DID LAST WEEK ABOUT IT COMING TO FRUITION.

AND I'LL BE WORKING DILIGENTLY TO HELP MAKE SURE THAT YOUR VISION COMES TO, TO PASS.

NO.

WELL THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HELP AND, UM, MOVING FORWARD, UM, IF MR. WILLIAMS, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU OR MR. WILLIAMS A SCHEDULED MEETING OR ANYTHING TO GET TOGETHER.

UM, I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF THAT MEETING AS WELL.

ABSOLUTELY.

'CAUSE THERE'S SOME MORE ISSUES WITH THAT, UM, PROJECT THAT I, THAT I WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS.

, THERE ARE THERE SEVERAL HOUSES IN THE AREA? MATTER OF FACT, HABITAT BUILT ONE OF THEM AND THAT HOUSE IS LOCATED ON OW STREET, I BELIEVE.

SO THEY ARE PROSPECTS AS FAR AS YOU WERE TALKING, THEY GOT GOTTA BE ELEVATED ABOVE ONE FOOT, ABOVE FLOOD ELEVATION.

AND I THINK FLOOD ELEVATION IS ABOUT EIGHT FOOT.

AND, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULDN'T BE NO PROBLEM.

IT WOULD UP STEP THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREATLY.

NOW, TO MY KNOWLEDGE.

NOW MAYBE I'M OVER SPEAKING, BUT I THOUGHT IT WAS 11 FEET.

I THOUGHT IT WAS NINE.

ELEVATION IS NINE.

IT MOVED UP TO NINE AND THEN THE POOL BOARDS TWO, WHICH CASE IT WAS TWO TO FINISH FIRST DOOR, TAKE IT UP TO THE LEFT.

AND THE RESIDENCE THAT MR. DI HUNT IS SPEAKING OF IS ON BIDDLE STREET.

IT'S ON STILTS.

AND IT HAS BEEN VIABLE AND HAS BEEN SUSTAINED NOW FOR QUITE A FEW YEARS.

THAT WE CAN WITH THE SALE PROPERTY AND SO FORTH.

THE, THE OTHER, I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ABOUT MR. MORGAN'S COMMENTS ABOUT AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN DUFFY FIELD, WE DID DO THE EUBANK STREET HOUSE.

THIS BOARD VOTED TO GIVE THE TWO LOTS MM-HMM.

OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM EUBANKS HOUSE HABITAT FOR HABITAT TO BUILD ON TO CREATE AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

UH, IF YOU REMEMBER, OUR SALE OF, OF PROPERTY TO MR. DIGGS, UH, HAD A COVENANT IN IT THAT HE HAD TO START A HOUSE IN A YEAR ON ONE LOT AND TWO YEARS IN THE OTHER.

AND IT HAD TO BE EITHER OCCUPIED BY THE OWNER OR RENTED OR OCCUPIED BY A LOW, MODERATE INCOME FAMILY.

AND THAT'S ON BOTH OF HIS LOTS.

SO WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.

IT, AND, AND THE, THE COMMISSION IS TAKING THAT INTO ACCOUNT AND THE DIFFERENT WAYS

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SO, UH, I DO, AND THE COMMISSION OWNS A LOT OF PROPERTY OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN THAT WE FOCUSED ON ACCUMULATING PROPERTY OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN IN THE DUFFY FIELD AREA.

IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO GIVE US SOME MONEY, WE CAN BUILD SOME HOUSES.

LIKE MR. ASHER DID.

LET'S LEAVE IT AT THAT .

MR. WALLACE, UH, GOOD EVENINGS WE ALL ASSEMBLED.

THE WELLNESS WORKING GROUP,

[10. Wellness Working Group Report]

UM, THIS IS MY HEALTH AND WELLNESS WORK GROUP REPORT.

UM, BUT AS A POINT OF PER PERSONAL PRIVILEGE, I WANNA PIGGYBACK OFF WHAT KIP SAID.

UM, I VISITED HABITAT, HAD A OPEN HOUSE, UM, THEY SENT INVITATION TO ALL OF US.

I ACTUALLY WENT, UM, BECAUSE I WAS NOT AS APPRISED AS I SHOULD HAVE BEEN OF FUNCTIONING OF HABITAT EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID.

AND THIS, I JUST WANTED TO SEE IT.

UM, AND WHAT I SAW, I WAS EXTREMELY SURPRISED, SHOCKED, AND I WAS A LITTLE UPSET THAT, AND I'LL TAKE OWNERSHIP.

I AIN'T BLAME NOBODY IN 'EM.

I'M NOT, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER JUST LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE, BUT MAYBE I SHOULD HAVE TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO GET HABITAT AT THE TABLE A LOT FASTER OVER THESE LAST FIVE YEARS THAN WE'VE HAD.

UM, THESE HOUSES, JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WAS EFFICIENT.

THEY WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND WITH THE INSULATION.

THEY GOT THIS, UH, THE WASH AND DRYER RECEIVER SET.

THERE'S ENERGY COMING.

I MEAN, IT WAS GOING THROUGH ALL THE BELLS AND WAS ROLLED OUT THE RED CARPET.

AND I, I WAS JUST SITTING THERE LOOKING AT THEM AND THEY WAS LIKE, WE WERE JUST WONDERING WHY WE COULDN'T WORK WITH Y'ALL.

THEY BUILT THREE HOUSES IN PEMBROKE IN THE LAST THREE YEARS ON ACCO STREET.

EIGHT.

I'M SORRY, I SAW THREE BESIDE EACH OTHER.

ON ACCO.

BUT I THINK, UH, FOR THE PAST YEARS PROBABLY BEEN A TOTAL OF SIX.

THAT'S CORRECT.

SIX HOMES THAT HABITAT BUILT OVER THE LAST YEAR.

SO THE WHOLE OH, THE, YEAH.

STARTED FROM THE DOWN BACK YEAR.

BUT WE STILL HAVE MOVING PIECES.

AND SO I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT IF PEMBROKE GOT THAT.

AND I JUST WISH WE HAD MOVED FASTER TO GET HABITAT AT THE TABLE BECAUSE WE WOULDN'T BE HAVING TURN INTO SHOVEL CONVERSATION HERE FIVE YEARS LATER.

AND I TENURE.

UM, BUT IT WAS EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE.

I'VE GOT PICTURES, UH, DID GET 'EM TO Z IN TIME.

MAYBE WE'LL DO THE KALEIDOSCOPE AT THE NEXT ONE SO Y'ALL CAN SEE.

'CAUSE I, I WAS JUST SO IMPRESSED.

I'M JUST TAKING PICTURE TAPE BECAUSE THEY, THEY GOTTA SEE THIS.

THEY GOTTA SEE THIS.

BUT, UM, I'M GLAD NOW THAT HABITAT IS AT THE TABLE.

UM, I, I MEAN I, I JUST CAN'T SAY ENOUGH ABOUT 'EM.

WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN, THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN AT THE TABLE A LONG TIME AGO AND I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY.

DON'T BOTHER ME NONE.

I GOT BROAD SHOWS.

DON'T BOTHER ME.

NONE AT ALL.

I'LL TAKE RESPONSIBILITY THAT I WASN'T PROACTIVE ENOUGH AND I WASN'T, YOU KNOW, THOUGHTFUL ENOUGH TO GET OUT THERE AND EDUCATE MYSELF ON THE POTENTIAL THEY HAVE AND GETTING THESE HOUSES UP SO FAST AND SO ENERGY EFFICIENT.

ALRIGHT, SO, ALRIGHT.

NOW THAT'S A MONTH OLD PROMISE AND I, THEY'RE JUST GETTING DONE.

ALRIGHT, SO ON TO THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

WE'VE HAD, UM, TWO GOOD MEETINGS, BUT WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ARTICULATION WITH THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS, UM, WORK GROUP.

UM, WE HAD A MEETING HERE DOWN HERE AT CITY AT, UM, CITY HALL.

AND WE HAD E C U HERE IN NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL.

GOT CRAVEN REGIONAL MEDICAL CENTER HERE, HEALTH DEPARTMENT, CITY OF NEW BERN, AND A BUNCH OF OTHERS.

AND THAT WAS A NICE LONG MEETING WHERE WE ACTUALLY TALKED ABOUT, LIKE, TALKED ABOUT LIKE GETTING SPECS INTO PLACE ON WHAT EACH PARTNER COULD ACTUALLY OFFER TO THE VISION OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.

WE GOT THE DOCUMENT, WE HAD A FOLLOW UP MEETING WITH E C U, NORTH CAROLINA CENTRAL AND DUKE.

UM, AND THEY HAD THE QUESTION WHY THAT WE HADN'T GOTTEN THE HOSPITAL YET.

THEY HAVE CHARGES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE AND PROCESSES THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE FOR THEIR FUNDING AND THE GRANTS THAT THEY HAVE, THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE.

UM, THE LOCAL HOSPITAL, SO E C U CALLED IT, WE DON'T WANT TO INVADE CRAVEN COUNTY, THEY ALREADY HAVE A HOSPITAL THERE, WE NEED THEM AS A PARTNER.

UM, AND THEY WAS JUST QUESTIONING WHY.

SO WE HAD THAT CONVERSATION.

THEY SAID THAT THAT CONVERSATION IS ONGOING OR THAT ARTICULATION IS ONGOING AND UM, WE'LL EVENTUALLY GET THEM TO THE TABLE.

SO E C U AND, AND CENTRAL, YOU KNOW, THEY STAY, THEY'RE STILL STANDING.

STEADFAST CENTRAL HAS FTES IN HALIFAX.

THEY'RE ACTUALLY FUNDING POSITIONS FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER IN HALIFAX.

SO THIS BLUEPRINT IS ALREADY DONE, BUT WE JUST HAVE TO HAVE THE RIGHT PARTNERS AT THE TABLE, UM, TO GET IT DONE.

AND AGAIN, THERE'S A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.

UM, THERE'S SOME OTHER THINGS LATER THAT UH, WE'RE TRYING TO, TO WORK OUT BUT, UH, REPORT.

UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR, FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

BUT, BUT STAY TUNED.

WE GOT GREAT THINGS TO GO.

GOOD DEAL.

GOOD WORK, MAN.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS FOR, UH, MR. KING? UH, WE HAVE A TIMELINE YET OR WHEN WE'RE GONNA SEE, UH, ANYTHING MOVING ON? THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER? STAY TUNED.

, STAY TUNED.

STAY TUNED.

YES, WE, WE, WE HAVE A POSSIBLE TIMELINE,

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WE GOT THROUGH.

JUST, JUST LOOKING FOR THAT SHOVEL TURN AND DIRT.

YEAH, THAT'S IT.

SO QUESTION WHEN YOU SAID, I KNOW THERE'S A TIMELINE INVOLVED, BUT, UM, FOR HEALTH AND WELLNESS NOW, SO I GUESS MAYBE I'LL BRING, I'LL BRING IT UP LATER.

THANK YOU MS. P.

UH, YOU HAVE A BUDGET BEFORE YOU THAT WE ARE ASKED TO DISCUSS AND POSSIBLY APPROVE, HOPEFULLY APPROVE, UH, SINCE WE DON'T HAVE A BUDGET IN WITH THE CITY, UH, KIND OF HAMSTRINGS, THE PROCESS OF PAYING BILLS AND GETTING THINGS, UH, ACCOMPLISHED.

TONIGHT'S NEW BUSINESS.

[11.a. RDC Budget Amendment Proposal]

UH, SO YOU HAVE THE BUDGET BEFORE YOU THAT, UH, Z HAS PREPARED AND IT'S OPEN FOR DISCUSSION.

, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT WERE WE WORKING ON LAST YEAR? WHAT DO, WHAT DO, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT WE SPENT LAST YEAR BASED ON THIS BUDGET HERE? WHAT DID WE SPEND LAST YEAR? WE DIDN'T HAVE A BUDGET LAST YEAR.

WE JUST SPENT, JUST SPENT, SPENT MONEY AS THEY CAME ALONG AGO.

NEEDED A OKAY TO SPEND.

UH, THE, THE ANNUAL EXPENDITURE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMISSION GENERAL ALLOCATION IS SOMEWHERE AROUND 25 TO $28,000.

SO THESE NUMBERS ARE IN PROXIMITY TO, UH, TO, TO, THEY'RE PROJECTIONS BASED ON WHAT YOU ALL HAVE SPENT.

UH, IN THE PAST.

I DID REALLOCATE SOME OF THE NUMBERS, UH, TO FOCUS ON THINGS LIKE STRATEGIC PLANNING, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, UH, AND SOME OF THOSE ITEMS THAT WE HAVEN'T, UH, HAD ATTRIBUTED TO THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IN THE PAST, SUCH AS LANDSCAPING IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.

I'LL MAKE THE MOTION MS. SET THE BUDGET AS PRESENT.

OH, SHE GOT QUESTION.

OH, I'M SORRY.

GO AHEAD.

I'M SORRY.

UM, YES, SET ME STRAIGHT NOW.

YOU, YOU'VE GOT HERE $10,000 FOR YOUR, UH, MONTHLY PARCEL OF KEY, UH, AND I KNOW THAT'S PROPERTIES THAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONER OWNS AND THAT'S ROOF AND ALL THAT.

YOU WITH THE CITY TO TRY WORKS DEPARTMENT TO GET THAT UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT.

UH, THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT DOES ACTUALLY, UH, TAKE CARE OF THE, THE LANDSCAPING OF CAPE AND THE MONTHLY COSTS WOULD BE SOMEWHERE AROUND $1,400.

THE $10,000 NUMBER IS AN ANNUALIZED NUMBER.

WELL, WOULDN'T BE CHARGED A PERIOD.

THEY DIDN'T, THEY NEVER DID UNTIL ABOUT THEY JUST CHARGING LAST MAY OR SO.

UM, NOW THESE ARE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

THAT'S, I I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF THIS SHOULD BE UNDER THE PUBLIC WORKS.

THIS IS ALLY NOT CITY OWNED PROPERTIES, REDEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES THAT WERE OWNED BY THE CITY, BUT WHY CAN'T THAT FALL? MIGHT WANNA TALK WITH, UH, MR. GEORGE CHILDS AND SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY CAN WORK OUT WITH Y'ALL BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE A COST THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO INCURRING, YOU USE THAT MONEY SOMEWHERE ELSE.

ONE OF THE REASONS THAT WE, WE, WE DECIDED TO DO A BUDGET AMENDMENT THIS YEAR WAS TO START TRACKING THE EXPENSES OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

AND SO WHAT YOU SEE BEFORE YOU IS ACTUALLY AN ALLOCATED COST AND IT'S MORE OF A BOOKKEEPING AND CODING GAME, UH, THAN WHAT WHAT ACTUALLY IS SPENT.

AND SO FOR INSTANCE, WE WON'T SPEND, UH, ALLOCATED FUNDS THAT ARE ALLOCATED FOR A PROJECT LIKE WHAT MR. ASTOR, UH, GAVE TO THE COMMISSION ON THESE FUNDS.

THESE ARE ALLOCATED OUT OF THE CITY'S GENERAL OPERATING, UM, BUDGET.

IT'S JUST AN AMENDMENT TO THE ORIGINAL BUDGET BECAUSE WE DIDN'T SUBMIT THAT.

I I I'M NOT MISSING YOUR AMENDMENT, BUT I'M SAYING MOVING FORWARD SURE.

TO NOT EVEN HAVE ANY COST PERIOD FOR YOUR LANDSCAPING GRASS CUTTING WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

THAT'S WHAT I WAS MENTIONING BECAUSE YOU SAID WE RUN 25 TO 28, WELL 10 OF IT IS NOW GONE FOR GRASS CUTTING.

SO NOW WE'RE DOWN TO 15 TO 18 IS ALL WE HAVE TO SPEND ON OTHER PROJECTS.

ALDERMAN BEST WE WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY RETURN TO THE PRIOR MECHANISM FOR THE, THE PROPERTIES BEING

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MAINTAINED.

AND TO BE QUITE HONEST, UH, MR. PERGO MADE A, UH, A SLIGHT COMMENT TOWARDS IT EARLIER, IF WE'RE OWNING PROPERTY THAT WAS GIVEN TO US BY THE CITY, THAT IS PRACTICALLY UNDEVELOPABLE IN MANY CIRCUMSTANCES, IT'S NOT LOGICAL FROM A BUSINESS STANDPOINT TO CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY EVERY SINGLE YEAR TO MAINTAIN THOSE PROPERTIES.

I UNDERSTAND THAT.

SO WE WOULD VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOUR ADVOCACY AMONGST THE, THE, THE, THE CITY OFFICIALS.

FRANKLY SPEAKING, I THOUGHT THE CITY WAS MAINTAINING Y'ALL PROPERTIES.

THEY USED THEY WERE USED TO.

USED TO.

THEY WERE UNTIL MAY AND THEY SWITCHED IT.

I WAS STRAIGHT ON THAT POINT.

SO YES MA'AM.

I I JUST, I WOULD DEFINITELY TALK TO MR. CHILDS AND I THINK THAT YOUR INPUT, UM, WOULD BE ALSO VERY APPRECIATED AS WELL.

YES MA'AM.

I DON'T SEE WHY WE, YOU KNOW, I LOOK AT IT AS PROPERTIES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T CARE WHO THEY'RE OWNED BY, THEY PROGRESSING BE CUT AND THE DEBRIS NEEDS TO BE MOVED AND IT SHOULD BE SO IT BE PRESENTABLE TO MAKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK GREAT.

APPRECIATE YOUR HELP.

WOULDN'T COME IN, UH, LET, CUTTING THAT PROPERTY WILL BE BUILT ON THE TAXES.

SEE THAT PROPERTY SOLD I RIGHT.

WE DON'T PAY TAXES.

I'M SORRY, I DIDN'T HEAR HIS QUESTION.

AT THE SALE OF THAT PROPERTY AS FAR AS, UH, THE PROPERTY ON MAIN STREET MM-HMM.

, THE CUTTING OF GRASS FOR WHATEVER MAINTENANCE IS USED, WOULD THAT BE ADDED TO THAT SALE PRICE? ARE YOU SPEAKING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES FOR AN INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY? INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY? MR. DI ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT 1307 MAIN STREET, THE PROPERTY YOU ALL JUST VOTED TO APPROVE THE SALE OF? YES.

I WANT TO KNOW, WAS THE TAXES FOR CUTTING THE GRASS ON THE MAINTENANCE ADDED TO THAT SALE? NO SIR.

THE, THE BID THAT YOU ALL ACCEPTED WAS A BID OF $4,050.

SO THE SALE PRICE WOULD BE FOR THE AMOUNT THAT YOU APPROVED.

I WILL SAY THAT ONCE ANY PROPERTY YOU CONVEY IS PUT BACK, UM, IN PRIVATE HANDS, IT IS TAXABLE AND WILL THEREFORE BE SUBJECT TO AOR TAXES WITH THE CITY AND COUNTY WILL RECEIVE.

THAT'S WHAT I'M MAKING MENTION OF.

HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING BILLS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

HOW MUCH LONGER WE HAVE THAT? I DON'T KNOW.

IT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

WHAT, WHEN DO WE TRANSFER THE EUBANK STREET HOUSE TO HABITAT? I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, CRAVEN COUNTY IS IN THE PROCESS OF REVIEWING A DEEDED THAT I PREPARED TO CONVEY ITS INTEREST IN THE LITTLE SLIVER ON EUBANK STREET TO THE CITY, WHICH THE CITY WILL, I BELIEVE SUBSEQUENTLY, UH, CONVEY TO THE COMMISSION AND ALL OF THE LOTS, THE ENTIRE CLUSTER DEVELOPMENT WILL BE CONVEYED AT ONE TIME.

THE HOUSE AND THE LOTS THE HOUSE AND THE LOTS ACROSS THE STREET THAT WILL BE CONVEYED AS A PART OF THIS LARGER PROJECT.

CORRECT.

ALSO IN THAT UTILITY SUBJECTS APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF ALMAN, OF COURSE, SORRY.

ALSO IN THAT UTILITY LINE IS AN ESTIMATION FOR UTILITY COSTS AT THE WALT BELLAMY HOUSES ONCE THEY ARE BUILT AND IT'S TOTAL ESTIMATE, NOT IT SAYS MONTHLY, BUT THAT, THAT'S LIKE THE ANNUAL TOTAL.

IT'S AN ANNUALIZED NUMBER.

I HAVE A QUESTION, PLEASE.

CAN YOU GIMME THAT ADDRESS ON WALT BELLAMY? IS IT 10 16? IT IS THE THREE PARCELS ON WALT BELLAMY THAT WE JUST ACCEPTED THE BID FOR ONE OF THOSE, I BELIEVE IT'S THOUSAND TWO, 1,004 AND THOUSAND SIX.

THEY USED TO BE 2 0 3 AND 2 0 7 JONES STREET.

RIGHT ON THE CORNER OF JONES, RIGHT? YES SIR.

THE GREENHOUSE.

YEAH, THE BIG HOUSE THEY TORE DOWN, WHICH IS 10 16 WAL BELLAMY.

NO SIR.

IT'S, I MEAN NOT, NO.

NEW BUSINESS IS AN INSURANCE QUOTE THAT WE ARE REQUIRED LIABILITY INSURANCE ON THOSE SAME NOTICE LOTS THAT WE WERE GOT DONE TALKING ABOUT THAT WE HAVE TO MOW.

DO WE OWN 10 16 WALK BELLAMY? NOT THAT I KNOW OF.

NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF.

I'M A BLOCK OFF.

YOU'RE A BLOCK OFF.

NEVERMIND.

SO 2 0 3 AND 2 0 7 JONES STREET WAS RE PLANTED.

THAT'S THE PROBABLY THAT I DO.

AND REORIENTED TOWARDS WALT BELLAMY DRIVE AND DIVIDED INTO THREE LOTS INSTEAD OF TWO.

THAT WAS THE LOTS THAT MR. TER MM-HMM.

DID YOU MAKE A MOTION TO YES, SIR.

I MADE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, THE BUDGET AS, UH, PRESENTED.

SECOND HERE WE HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND, ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION ABOUT THE PROPOSED BUDGET AMENDMENT.

WOULD THAT REQUIRE A ROLL CALL? YES SIR.

WE ANDREW MORGAN? YES.

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[11.b. Insurance Quote]

UH, WE WENT THROUGH, UH, OR Z WENT THROUGH AND WITH, UH, THE CITY AND THEIR INSURANCE CARRIERS AND GOT A QUOTE FOR $686 AND 50 CENTS TO PROVIDE THAT, UH, LEVEL OF INSURANCE THAT'S SHOWN IN YOUR PACKET ON VACANT LOTS IN ALL OF OUR PROPERTY, OUR PROPERTY THAT IT WOULD COVER IS, IS ALSO ATTACHED TO THE PROPOSAL.

AND YOU DID SAY THEY WOULD'VE NO BID, UH, COMPARE.

I'LL ASK ZEEB TO SPEAK TO THAT.

'CAUSE I, WHAT WAS THE QUESTION? I APOLOGIZE.

THEY WOULDN'T NO BID AS FOR THE PROPERTIES.

AND, AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, MR. DILL HUNT FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, THERE'S A STATUTE DOES NOT, THAT DOES NOT REQUIRE THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO HAVE TO SOLICIT BIDS.

WELL, BASED ON THAT SHOULDN'T BE COMPETITIVE.

NO SIR.

THAT THE BIDDING REQUIREMENT DOES NOT APPLY FOR THESE TYPES OF SERVICES FOR REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS.

SO WE JUST GO AND CHOSE THE INSURANCE COMPANY THAT WE SO DESIRE.

YOU CAN, YOU CAN GO DIRECTLY TO INSURANCE COMPANIES THAT YOU SO DESIRE, YOU CAN GET MULTIPLE CLO QUOTES FROM LOCAL INSURANCE COMPANIES.

YOU CAN ASSESS THESE SERVICES HOWEVER THIS COMMISSION SEES FIT.

IT'S NOT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. HUFF, THAT, UM, YOU ALL DIRECTED MR. HUFF TO GO THROUGH THE CITY'S INSURANCE CARRIER TO GET SOME INFORMATION AND I THINK THAT IS WHAT HE'S BROUGHT BACK TO YOU THIS EVENING.

THAT IS CORRECT.

ANY ADDITIONAL CONVERSATION? HEARING NONE, I'LL MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ACCEPT, UH, GENERAL LIABILITY INSURANCE BID FOR A SS I A GROUP FOR $686 AND 50 CENTS.

A DISCUSSION OF PROJECT GROUPS.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND HEARING.

NO MORE CONVERSATION.

UM, I DON'T, DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL MR. FOR AN EXPENDITURE? YES, SIR.

[Items 11.c & 11.d]

UH, AND THIS, I'LL COMBINE THE NEXT TWO TOGETHER.

WE HAVE TWO, TWO OPPORTUNITIES AHEAD OF US THAT, THAT NEED SOME ATTENTION.

WE'VE BEEN KICKING THE CAN ON THESE DOWN THE ROAD FOR A WHILE.

AND IT'S TIME TO, TO PICK THE CAN UP AND RUN WITH IT INSTEAD OF KICKING IT.

SO, AND THAT IS THE RULES AND PROCEDURES DOCUMENT THAT WE HAVE FROM OUR LEGAL ADVISOR.

THAT WAS DONE FOUR OR FIVE MONTHS AGO.

AND WE, I KNOW, UH, THERE HAVE BEEN REQUESTS FOR COMMENTS ABOUT IT AND I THINK NONE HAVE EVER BEEN RECEIVED.

SO WE NEED TO SPEND SOME TIME REVIEWING THAT.

UH, AND THIS WOULD BE A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO FORM A PROJECT WORK GROUP OR AN AD HOC.

IT'D BE BASICALLY IT'S AN AD HOC COMMITTEE BECAUSE IT'S NO, IT, IT'S A PROJECT WORK GROUP.

I STAND CORRECTED.

UH, THAT WILL BE DISSOLVED AS SOON AS THE JOB IS IS DONE.

UH, REVIEWING THAT AND BRINGING RECOMMENDATION BACK TO THE FULL COMMISSION.

THE SAME APPLIES TO, UM, THE PLANNING RETREAT.

WE'VE, BOY, WE'VE WORKED WORN THAT ONE OUT.

UH, AND SO WE NEED TO GET ANOTHER GROUP OF INTERESTED COMMISSIONERS WORK THAT ISSUE AND BRING BACK A RECOMMENDATION TO THE WORK GROUP.

I MEAN TO THE WHOLE COMMISSION.

AS THE PLANNING RETREAT, UH, MR. RUM, MR. STRICKLAND AND MR. WALLACE SEE NODDING HEADS HERE ON THIS? YEAH.

, UH, OUR CHAIRMAN HAS BEEN, I THINK, ACTIVE IN WORKING THROUGH THIS AND HAS RECOMMENDED THAT THE, UH, WORK GROUP, UH, PROJECT GROUP, UH, TO DEAL WITH THE RULES AND PROCEDURES, UH, WOULD CONSIST OF KI PARAGO, SHARON BRYANT AND SARAH PROCTOR.

AND I WILL LOOK AT EVERYBODY AND LET THOSE THREE PEOPLE NOD THEIR HEADS THAT THEY'RE, THEY HAVE COMMITTED TO IT OR WILLING TO COMMIT TO IT TO GET TOGETHER, REVIEW THAT DOCUMENT.

AND, AND THEN AS FAR

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WE'RE GONNA TACKLE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM.

SO WE HAVE OFFICIALLY CREATED TWO PROJECT GROUPS TO DEAL WITH THOSE TWO PARTICULAR ISSUES.

AND I WOULD HOPE THAT BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR IS OUT AND HOPEFULLY THAT THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE WOULD HAVE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THOSE GROUPS FOR THE ENTIRE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.

SESSION BASED ON YES SIR.

UH, WE HAVE BEEN INFORMED THAT WE, AND THAT MEANT I CAN'T GO THROUGH THIS, BUT THE, WE NEED TO GO INTO A CLOSED

[12. Closed Session]

WE NEED TO CLOSE SESSION TONIGHT BASED ON NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL STATUTE 1 43 3 18, 11 A FIVE TO DISCUSS THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY.

SO WHAT WE NEED IS A MOTION TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.

ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

A AYE.

WE'RE GOING INTO CLOSED SESSION AND WE WILL BE GOING INTO THE CONFERENCE ROOM.

SO HE'S GONNA ABANDON HERE FOR THE CLOSED SESSION.

THEN WE'LL COME BACK.

MR. STEVE, HE'S IN THE RIGHT LOT.