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UM, AND SO THIS EVENING, JUST WANNA WELCOME EVERYONE FOR COMING TO OUR SECOND MEETING OF THE NEWBURG BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY, EXCUSE ME, BI, THE NEWBURG BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.UM, AND I KNOW WE'VE BROUGHT, UM, ALL OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS HERE AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MOST OF STAFF, WE HAVE DEFINITELY SOME CITIZENS, UM, PARTICIPATING.
UM, SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, HAVING A ROBUST CONVERSATION THIS EVENING.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR AGENDA, WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
I WILL POINT OUT THAT, UM, OUR OFFICE DID RECEIVE TWO EMAILS FROM THE CITIZENS, UM, SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THIS COMMITTEE.
THERE ARE COPIES OF WHICH ARE ATTACHED IN EACH OF YOUR PACKETS.
SO WE RECEIVED, UM, TWO EMAILS, UM, AND I'M GOING TO JUST PARAPHRASE THEM, UM, IN EFFORT OF TIME, AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING SOME OF THESE EMAILS ON THE CONTENTS OF THE EMAILS AS PART OF TONIGHT'S CONVERSATION.
SO THE FIRST EMAIL IS FROM MS. STOUT.
UM, SHE HAD SOME QUESTIONS REGARDING, UM, SPECIFICALLY GREENBRIER AND THE SAFETY CONCERNS ABOUT HAVING SIDEWALKS IN THAT AREA.
SHE'S ALSO INTERESTED IN US CONSIDERING THE TRIANGLE, WHICH SHE DEFINES AS THE NEW BERN CITY, WHICH I'M THINKING IS MORE DOWNTOWN TRENT ROAD, GLEN, GLEN BURNIE ROAD AND NEW BOULEVARD, AND THEN BACK TO DOWNTOWN.
UM, AND WE'LL TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE AREAS HAVE ALREADY BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
SHE'S ALSO INTERESTED IN HAVING ACCESS TO MARTIN MARIETTA PARK, UM, SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS AND PARKS, ADDRESSING THE SAFETY AND CONCERNS ON NEWS BOULEVARD ABOUT HAVING A SIDEWALK OR A PATH.
UM, AND THEN LASTLY, OR EXCUSE ME, THE SECOND TO LAST IS ADDING CROSSWALKS SUCH AS CROSSWALKS, PUSH BUTTONS FOR PEDESTRIANS, ET CETERA.
AND, UM, HAVING SOMEONE TALK ABOUT EMERALD ISS TRAIL, WHICH WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT AS WELL.
UM, AND SO THE OTHER EMAIL WE RECEIVED WAS FROM MR. BRETT SCHNEIDER, AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT ONE OF THE AREAS IN OUR PLAN, WHICH IS ONE OF THE SIXES, WHICH IS EDUCATION.
AND HE IS INTERESTED IN SEEING IF THE COMMITTEE IS INTERESTED IN DOING SOME TYPE OF SAFETY CAMPAIGN.
UM, AND HE TALKED ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, UM, IGNORANCE AND ARROGANCE.
UM, AND SAID THAT, UH, IT WOULD BE NICE FOR US TO HAVE THE MARKED CYCLING NAMES IN THE COUNTY.
AND THIS IS SOMETIMES SEEN BY HAVING WIDE PAVED SHOULDERS, WHICH IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT, UM, ALTHOUGH IT'S OUTSIDE OF THE CITY OF NEW VERN, IT IS SOMETHING THAT THE MPO HAS IDENTIFIED ON SOME HIGHWAY PROJECTS THAT WE HAVE RECENTLY SUBMITTED FOR NNC DOT PRIORITIZATION.
SO I JUST WANTED TO PRESENT THOSE TO YOU AND WE CAN ADDRESS THOSE IN A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL.
BUT WITH THAT, I WOULD OPEN IT UP TO, UM, ANY OF ANY OF THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE A FEW MINUTES TO, UM, VOICE ANY CONCERNS.
ARE YOU ASKING FOR THE PUBLIC? YES.
IF YOU WERE, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY.
SO, UM, I KNOW THEY GOT, UM, RAILS, TRAILS AND BEHIND, UM, KING'S ROAD.
I USED TO LIVE THERE WHEN I WAS A KID.
THE TRAIN USED TO COME BACK BEHIND THERE, AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A PERFECT SPOT TO PUT A RAILS TO TRAILS RIGHT IN THERE.
'CAUSE YOU GOT SHOPPING THERE, YOU'VE GOT NEW BERN HIGH SCHOOLS RIGHT DOWN THE STREET, UM, AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
AND WE, WE DEF DESPERATELY NEED, UM, BIKE LANES IN THIS TOWN AND SIDEWALKS THAT ACTUALLY CONNECT INSTEAD OF THE WAY THEY ARE, THEY DON'T CONNECT TO ANYTHING.
IT'S JUST LIKE THE NEW BUSINESS HAS TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN, BUT THE OLDER BUSINESS HAS BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN.
SO, UM, THOSE ARE MY TWO BIGGEST THINGS.
UM, BIKE LANES, BECAUSE IT WOULD, IT WOULD GET MORE PEOPLE ACTIVE IF THEY KNEW THAT THEY COULD DO IT SAFELY, UM, IN THIS TOWN.
SO, AND, AND FOR THE, FOR OUR MINUTES, I GUESS, CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR NAME? MY NAME IS BEN.
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS I I ATTENDED THE FIRST MEETING, ONE OF THE THINGS I NOTICED AND I MENTIONED IT.
THEN THERE'S NO BIKE RACK OUT IN FRONT AND IT'S TWO MONTHS LATER.
NO, I DIDN'T RIDE MY BIKE TONIGHT.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST LITTLE THINGS LIKE THAT, UH,
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THAT, UM, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE.I SEE MORE, MORE OF THAT TYPE OF THING AROUND THE TOWN.
AND, AND I ALSO AGREE WITH BEN ABOUT CONNECTED SIDEWALKS.
I HAPPENED TO SEE A WOMAN IN A POWER WHEELCHAIR ON A SIDEWALK, AND SHE WENT UP AND NOW OF A SUDDEN IT ENDED.
SO SHE HAD TO GO BACK AND LITERALLY GO, WAS ON MARTIN.
SHE, SHE ENDED UP RIDING ON MARTIN LUTHER AT KING BOULEVARD IN HER WHEELCHAIR DOWN MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD.
I THOUGHT IT'S A LITTLE BIT DANGEROUS.
SO, UH, BECAUSE I MAKE ONE PUBLIC COMMENT, FIRST OF ALL, THAT FLIES, DOES NOT EASILY IMPRESSED ON A DARN THING, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO BICYCLES.
AND HE HAS COMMITTED THE CITY OF NEW ON THIS PLAN, AND THAT'S UNUSUAL.
SO DO I, THIS IS AN EXCELLENT BICYCLE PLAN THAT HAS COVERED WAY MORE IN DETAIL THAN I COULD ABSORB IN A, IN A MONTH AND A HALF OR TWO MONTHS.
I BELIEVE YOU SAID THIS PLAN CAN BE HAD ONLINE.
HOW WOULD SOMEBODY GET TO IT? IT IS ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WEBSITE SITE, AND THERE'S A, UM, A LINK THAT SAYS, UM, THE NEWBORN BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN.
AND WE CAN CERTAINLY SHARE THAT LINK.
IF YOU WANNA LEAVE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, I CAN EMAIL THAT TO YOU DIRECTLY AFTER THE MEETING.
I TRIED IT ON MY PHONE, IT DIDN'T WORK, SO I FIGURED IT JUST MY PHONE, I HADN'T GOT IT ON THE COMPUTER.
AND IT'S ON THE NPOS WEBSITE AS WELL.
AND, UH, PAGE 49, THERE'S FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE WERE TOLD TO KIND OF LOOK AT AND SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE GOD, MARTIN LUTHER KING AND NOT HAS BEEN COVERED IN THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING THIS IS AN EXTRA PLAN.
TAKE A LOOK AT IT, THEN YOU CAN COME BACK AND SAY, THIS IS WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE HAPPEN.
AND MAYBE THAT WILL DO IT SOME HARD.
UH, MY NAME'S BETHANY RICHARDS.
UM, THIS IS MY FIRST MEETING, SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ASSEMBLING AND, UM, TRYING TO MAKE NEWBERG BETTER WITH, UM, BIKING AND WALKING PAST.
I I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL HAVE THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, APPROACHING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WITH BICYCLISTS THAT ARE MAYBE RIDING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION AND THEY ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW THE RULES.
UM, SO I JUST, MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED AND MAYBE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN BE INVOLVED IN STOPPING BICYCLISTS AND INFORMING THEM THAT THEY'RE RIDING INCORRECTLY, UM, AGAINST TRAFFIC WHEN THEY SHOULD BE RIDING WITH TRAFFIC.
UM, 'CAUSE IT MAKES THE REST OF US BICYCLISTS THAT ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES.
UM, IT, IT'S AGGRAVATING ALL THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING THE CARS.
SO I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD ACTIVELY, UM, WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND MAYBE THEM STOPPING PEOPLE THAT ARE BICYCLING, UM, INCORRECTLY OR UNLAWFULLY AND MAYBE GETTING SOME OF THESE FOLKS BEFORE THEY GET HIT OR BEFORE SOMEBODY DRIVING A CAR KILL SOMEBODY.
UM, MAYBE WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE FOLKS TO ACTUALLY ABIDE BY THE BICYCLING RULES.
YOU STILL OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS? YES, MA'AM.
UH, SUZANNE BLAZE, I'VE BEEN HAVING SOME EMAIL CORRESPONDENCE WITH MR. BRISON.
UM, I LIVE IN GREENBRIER ALSO, SO I'M GONNA KIND OF PIGGYBACK ON, UH, LINDA'S, UM, EMAIL THAT YOU, UM, SPOKE OF.
UH, I, WE'VE HAD SOME EMAILS GOING BACK AND FORTH, AND I'M CONCERNED IN GREENBRIER FOR MANY OF THE SAME REASONS THAT'S BEING EXPRESSED HERE.
UM, AND ALSO I THINK EVERYBODY SEEMS TO HAVE, NOT EVERYBODY, BUT MANY PEOPLE SEEM TO HAVE THEIR OWN ASSUMPTION OR IDEAS WHAT THE LAWS ARE FOR VEHICLES, FOR PEDESTRIANS AND FOR CYCLISTS.
AND I TRIED TO FIND, UH, A WEBSITE WITH SOME OF THOSE ON THERE.
AND, AND WHAT I DID FIND WAS VERY VAGUE IN CHAPTER 20 OF THE, UM, THE, THIS WAS THE PEDESTRIANS RIGHTS AND DUTIES AND THERE WENT ON WITH, UM, UM, THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR PEDESTRIANS FOR VEHICLES AND, AND BICYCLISTS.
AND WE KNOW BICYCLISTS BASIC BASICALLY FOLLOW THE SAME RULES AS A, AS A VEHICLE, BUT MOST OF IT ALLUDED TO THE FACT THAT IF THERE'S CROSSWALKS, WHAT TO DO, UH, OR IF THERE WAS SOME KIND OF A SIGNAL.
BUT WE HAVE NONE, NONE OF THAT IN GREENBRIAR.
AND, AND MANY OF YOU THAT RIDE, YOU KNOW, THAT WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, ORGANIZED BIKE, UM, CLUBS AND, AND THE MS RIDE THAT GOES THROUGH THERE, BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY, ANY BIKE PATH OR ANYTHING.
UH, THERE'S A LOT OF WALKERS THAT LIVE IN GREENBRIAR.
THEY DON'T, THEY MAY NOT DRIVE DOWN, YOU KNOW, RIDE DOWNTOWN OR SUCH, BUT THEY DO.
WE HAVE QUITE A FEW AVID CYCLISTS RIGHT IN GREENBRIAR.
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A LOT OF KNOWN SPEEDING, NOT JUST RESIDENTS, UM, AND, AND DISTRACTED DRIVERS.IN FACT, I JUST HEARD ABOUT, JUST HAPPENED JUST THE OTHER DAY WHERE IT WAS A DISTRACTED DRIVER IN GREENBRIER THAT HID INTO A, ONE OF THE, UM, YARD WASTE TRUCKS.
WE HAD ONE THAT RAN INTO, WE HAVE A EMERALD, UM, GOLF CLUB SIGN RIGHT OFF OF, UH, GREENBRIAR PARKWAY THAT A, A RESIDENT PLOWED INTO IT.
AND RIGHT MONTHS BEFORE THAT, OR MAYBE A YEAR BEFORE THAT, THE BIG SIGN UP ON THE MEDIAN, AS YOU COME INTO THE MAIN ENTRANCE OF GREENBRIAR, SOMEBODY WENT VEERED OFF AND HID THAT.
SO WE HAVE A, UM, AND, AND IT'S A NUMBER OF REASONS WHY THESE THINGS HAPPEN.
IT COULD BE MEDICAL, BUT REGARDLESS OF THE REASON, IT'S STILL A DANGEROUS SITUATION FOR, FOR NOT ONLY THE DRIVERS, BUT FOR CYCLISTS AND ESPECIALLY WALKERS AND DOG WALKERS.
AND, UM, I WAS UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT VEHICLES WERE SUPPOSED TO YIELD 'CAUSE WE HAVE, WELL, YOU CAN'T YIELD TO THE RIGHT OF WAY UNLESS THERE'S A CROSSWALK.
YOU CAN'T HAVE CROSSWALKS AS I LEARNED, UNLESS THERE'S SIDEWALKS.
SO I'M HERE TO KIND OF ADVOCATE, UH, FOR GREENBRIAR TO TRY TO GET SIDEWALKS PUT IN SO WE CAN HAVE CROSSWALKS AND THEREFORE SOME SAFETY OR, UH, BIKE ROUTES, YOU KNOW, BIKE LANES AS, AS, UH, WAS INDICATED BY A FEW PEOPLE HERE, UM, TO, TO TRY TO CUT DOWN AND, AND, AND JUST OPEN THE DOORS FOR SAFETY.
AND, UH, THERE HAS BEEN MORE TRAFFIC CONTROL IN THERE AS OF RECENTLY BECAUSE WE'VE HAD SOME OTHER SITUATIONS IN GREENBRIAR THAT MANY MAY NOT BE AWARE OF.
SO ANYWAY, I'M JUST HERE AND THANK YOU BOB FOR INVITING ME HERE AND, UM, AND, UH, HOPE THAT WE CAN SEE SOMETHING HAPPEN IN THAT REGARD FOR OUR COMMUNITY BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THEY ARE CITY STREETS OVER THERE.
SO THAT'S ABOUT ALL I'M GONNA SAY.
IT'S, IT'S, UM, SOMETHING THAT I'VE BEEN KIND OF TRYING TO ADDRESS FOR ABOUT 10 YEARS, BUT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME I BROUGHT IT TO A VENUE LIKE THIS.
AND, UH, A LOT OF PEOPLE IN GREENBRIAR ARE SITTING, WELL, MANY OF 'EM SEEM TO THINK THAT THERE'S NOT A PROBLEM, BUT APPARENTLY THESE PEOPLE ARE ALSO PEOPLE THAT DON'T RIDE BIKES OR DON'T WALK, SO THEY DON'T REALLY KNOW.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND, UM, WE HOPE TO SEE SOMETHING, SOME OF YOUR ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS POINT.
EXCUSE ME, SOME OF YOUR ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED IN THIS POINT.
HI, UM, MY NAME IS EMILY ZEER.
I ALSO LIVE IN, IN GREENBRIAR, AND I'M A BIG ADVOCATE OF WALKING TRAILS, SIDEWALKS, BICYCLE PATHS.
I LIVED IN EMERALD ISLAND FOR 20 YEARS AND I WAS THERE WHEN THE IDEA CAME ABOUT TO CREATE THE, UM, PATH DOWN COAST GUARD ROAD AS WELL AS THE ONE THAT EXTENDS THE WHOLE LENGTH OF THE TOWN.
UM, IT HAS CHANGED THINGS DRAMATICALLY AND FOR THE BETTER, BECAUSE I REMEMBER GOING THERE ON VACATION YEARS AND YEARS AGO, AND I WAS A RUNNER AND SO WAS MY BROTHER, SO WAS MY HUSBAND.
SO WERE THE KIDS WE RAN IN THE STREET, WHICH IS WHAT PEOPLE DO NOW HERE.
THEY DO IT IN GREENBRIER AND THEY DO IT ON OTHER STREETS.
IT'S VERY HARD TO SHARE THE ROAD WITH CARS GOING BOTH WAYS.
SO, UM, THE BIKE PATH AND THE, UM, PEDESTRIAN PATH AND BIKE PATH CHANGED EVERYTHING.
AND WHAT THEY DID WAS THEY CONNECTED THINGS, THEY CONNECTED NEIGHBORHOODS, THEY CONNECTED, UM, RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS, WHICH IS WHAT I THINK A LOT OF BUSINESSMEN AND THE RETAIL, RETAIL ESTABLISHMENTS ALONG GLEN BURNIE AS WELL AS UP AND DOWN MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING PEOPLE BE ABLE TO WALK FROM ONE ESTABLISHMENT TO THE NEXT AND REALLY ENCOURAGE THE, IN THE INDUSTRY AND, UM, SPENDING TIME THERE.
SO, AND AS FAR AS THAT'S CONCERNED, GETTING ACROSS, UM, MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD TO THE MALL THERE WHERE HARRIS TEETER IS, WHERE SO MANY PEOPLE GO, BUT THEY DRIVE THEIR CARS.
IF YOU COULD WALK THERE ON A NICE DAY, YOU PEOPLE WILL DO IT.
AND THERE ARE YOUNGER AND YOUNGER PEOPLE WHO ARE EVEN MOVING INTO GREENBRIER, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.
UM, AND I KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING EVERYONE WOULD ENCOURAGE AND I WOULD BE HAPPY TO, UM, TALK MORE ABOUT THE
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BUSINESSES AND SAYING, HOW WOULD THIS WORK FOR YOU? SO IT WOULD WORK FOR EVERYBODY.ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR PROVIDING THAT FEEDBACK.
UM, AND WE WILL BE DISCUSSING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS, UM, IN
UM, BUT THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF THIS CONVERSATION.
AS ANPO, WHICH IS A METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IDENTIFYING, UM, ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION AND LOOKING AT IT FROM THE LONG TERM.
UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THAT TONIGHT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS.
WE'RE ALSO GONNA TALK ABOUT EMAL AL TRAIL.
SO IT'S GREAT THAT YOU'RE HERE, THAT YOU CAN, YOU CAN OFFER SOME FIRSTHAND, UM, KNOWLEDGE ON THAT.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE IDEA OF WHAT COMPLETE STREETS IS, AND IT IS MENTIONED IN, OH YEAH, SORRY, JESSE POINTED OUT, UM, WE, UH, IT'S ON THE AGENDA, BUT WE DO HAVE, UM, MINUTES.
I WAS SUPER EXCITED TO GET STARTED.
UM, SO WE HAVE MINUTES FROM THE, UM, OUR FIRST ORGANIZATIONAL MEETING AND, UM, WE WOULD BE LOOKING FOR A MOTION.
ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? IF THERE'S ANY OPPOSED.
OKAY, NOW WE CAN OFFICIALLY MOVE ON.
UM, SO WE'VE BEEN, YOU'VE HEARD THAT, SO WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS AND IT'S MENTIONED AND THE BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN CLAN.
UM, BUT SOMETIMES WE, WE KIND OF NEED TO PUT A FORMAL DEFINITION TO THE CONCEPT THAT WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS.
AND REALLY THE IDEA OF COMPLETE STREETS IS CENTERED AROUND THAT YOU WANNA DESIGN A FACILITY, AND IN THIS CASE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A ROAD, AND THAT INCLUDES, UM, ACCOMMODATIONS FOR EVERYBODY.
SO WE HAVE A ROAD, WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIDEWALK, WE'RE LOOKING AT A TRAIL, AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING AT IT AS ONE HAVING PRIORITY OVER THE OTHER.
SO THE DEFINITION IS WHERE YOU HAVE A TRANSPORTATION POLICY AND DESIGN APPROACH THAT REQUIRES STREETS TO BE PLANNED, DESIGNED, OPERATED AND MAINTAINED TO ENABLE SAFE, CONVENIENT, AND COMFORTABLE TRAVEL AND ACCESS FOR ALL USERS OF ALL AGES AND ABILITIES, REGARDLESS OF THEIR MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO YOU'RE NOT, YOU'RE CREATING ALL MODES EQUAL, NOT MAYBE YOUR CAR HIGHER THAN YOUR PEDESTRIAN OR YOUR CYCLIST.
SO THERE'S LOTS OF BENEFITS OF COMPLETE STREET, SOME OF WHICH WE'VE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THIS EVENING.
BUT IT IS, IT IS AN ALTERNATIVE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION.
IT ALLOWS EASIER ACCESS FOR PEOPLE TO GET FROM ONE PLACE TO THE NEXT.
IT BUILDS A MORE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITY BECAUSE YOU ARE PROVIDING THAT CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, YOUR ECONOMIC AND, AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS, YOUR TRANSIT SYSTEMS. AND IT IMPROVES THE SAFETY FOR YOUR PEDESTRIAN CYCLISTS AS WELL AS YOUR MOTORISTS.
SO I THINK IT'S INTERESTING 'CAUSE WE TALK ABOUT COMPLETE STREETS, BUT NOW IT'S, WELL, WHAT DO WE DO WITH THAT CONCEPT? HOW DO WE ACTUALLY GET IT TO BE APPLIED FOR, UM, HERE IN NEW BERN? AND SO REALLY THINK ABOUT IT AS, UM, THREE DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO WE HAVE THE IMPLEMENTATION, WHICH IS SEEN HERE IN THE NEW BERN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
SO THIS IS WHERE YOU HAVE A NEW BUSINESS THAT COMES TO TOWN OR A BUSINESS THAT MAYBE WANTS TO CHANGE AND CHOOSE, AND IT'S REQUIRED THEM TO DO A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN WHAT IS, UM, A TYPICAL UPFIT.
AND SO THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT OR POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT WOULD COME IN AND THIS IS THE CODE OF ORDINANCE OR YOUR LAND USE THAT SAYS WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO IN ORDER TO GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, YOU'RE LOOKING AT YOUR ZONING, ET CETERA.
THEN YOU ALSO HAVE JUST PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT, UM, OUR NEWBORN ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT WILL LOOK AT.
SO THIS IS WHERE THEY HAVE, UM, MONEY THROUGH A GRANT OR THROUGH POWER BILL FUNDS, ET CETERA, THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO INSTALL OR MODIFY, UM, A SIDEWALK, A TRAIL, UM, CURB, RAMPS, ET CETERA.
AND THEN MOST IMPORTANTLY, UM, AS PART OF THE BIGGER IMPACT IS YOUR, IS YOUR TRANSPORTATION FOCUS.
AND THIS IS WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE REQUIREMENTS OF N-C-D-O-T.
AND THAT REALLY COMES DOWN TO WHEN THINKING ABOUT WHERE WE WANT PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLING IMPROVEMENTS AND TO FOCUS IT WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A NEW ROADWAY FACILITY.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO STANDALONE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THAT'S WHAT FE AND I DO WITH THE, THE NEW BURN AREA NPO.
AND THE CITY OF NEW BERN IS A MEMBER OF THAT ORGANIZATION.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION AND, UM, DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, SO THEY ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON OR GETTING READY TO START UPDATING THE LAND USE ORDINANCE.
SO THE RFQ OR THE REQUEST FOR QUALIFICATIONS TO HIRE
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A CONSULTANT IS EXPECTED TO BE, UM, DUE SOMETIME END SOON, BUT THEY'RE HOPING TO GET STARTED EARLY OF 2024.NOW THIS IS A REALLY IN-DEPTH PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE GONNA LOOK THROUGH THE ENTIRE CODE AND UPDATE IT.
SO THIS IS GONNA TAKE ABOUT TWO YEARS TO DO THIS PROCESS, BUT THAT ALSO PRESENTS AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY TO IMPLEMENT A COMPLETE STREETS POLICY.
THIS IS THE ABILITY FOR US TO INFLUENCE NOW WHAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE WITH THAT FUTURE DEVELOPMENT.
AND THIS ALLOWS US TO DO BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED DESIGN AND IMPLEMENTATION.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS TO NOWHERE, WELL, YOU HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
UM, BUT THIS ALLOWS THE OPPORTUNITY FOR NEW DEVELOPMENT AS IT COMES IN THAT THAT NEW DEVELOPMENT PAYS FOR THAT SIDEWALK SIDEWALK RATHER THAN THE TAXPAYERS OR THE CITY OF NEW BERN, UM, PAYING FOR THAT, THAT, UM, IMPROVEMENT.
AND SO I'M GONNA LET GEORGE TALK ABOUT, UM, THREE PROJECTS THAT HIS DEPARTMENT IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON TO SEE SOME IMPROVEMENTS HAPPEN SOON.
SO WE, THE FOR AND THESE TWO PROJECTS, THE LOWES BOULEVARD AND THE TRENT ROAD PROJECT WILL PROBABLY BE KICKING OFF PROBABLY IN THE SPRING OF THIS YEAR.
WE'VE GOT SOME MATERIALS THAT LINING UP TO ORDER PRE, PRE UH, CONSTRUCTION PHASE, BUT WE IDENTIFIED AN AREA ALONG LOWES BOULEVARD WHERE WE HAD A CONSIDERABLE AMOUNT OF FOOT TRAFFIC.
UM, IT WAS ONE COMING FROM THE, UM, MULTIFAMILY, UH, UNITS TO THE NORTH WHERE THEY'VE ACTUALLY BUILT A SECOND SET OF THOSE ON THE NORTH SIDE WEST BOULEVARD, AND THEN ALSO FROM THE SOUTH GATE COMMUNITY.
SO WE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONNECT WHAT'S THE, AN EXISTING DEAD END ROAD, UM, TO A PEDESTRIAN CROSSING.
SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE A MIDBLOCK CROSSING THERE WITH A SAFE HARBOR ISLAND IN THE TURN LANE.
IT'LL BE RACE CURBING FOR PEDESTRIAN CROSSING, AND THERE WILL BE PUSH BUTTON FLASHING SIGNALS THERE FOR YOU TO CROSS IN THAT SIGNAL.
SO WE'RE GONNA BE CONNECTING, UM, BASICALLY TWO RESIDENTIAL AREAS TO A SIDEWALK, TO A RETAIL FACILITY.
UM, IT, IT WAS KIND OF EASY TO IDENTIFY THIS ONE BY THE WARM GRASS ON BEHIND THE CURB LINE.
VERY EASY WAY TO IDENTIFY WHERE PEOPLE ARE PEDESTRIANS OR WALKING.
THE SECOND PROJECT, IF YOU HAVE THE AERIAL ON, UH, TRENT ROAD, WE ARE GONNA CONNECT.
RIGHT NOW WE HAVE EXISTING SIDEWALK IN FRONT OF A BUSINESS, A RETAIL CENTER WHERE
AND WE'RE GONNA CONNECT THERE AND RUN DOWN ACROSS RAILWAY, OUT ACROSS ONE STREAM WITH A PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE.
AND WE'RE GONNA PUT ANOTHER CROSSING TO THE NORTH SIDE, WHICH WILL CONNECT TO THE EXISTING SIDEWALKS OF NEIGHBOR MARKETPLACE.
SO THAT WILL THEN CONNECT THE HEAD OF ONE RESIDENTIAL.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO WORK OUR WAY DOWN THE ROAD.
WE CAN'T DO IT ALL AT ONE TIME, BUT THAT CROSSING WILL ALSO HAVE A NEW SET OF PEDESTRIAN CONTROLS AND A SAFE HARBOR ISLAND IN THE MIDDLE WITH, UH, RACE CURBING DECK, THE, THE RESIDENCE IN THAT AREA.
AND SO THAT TO THE RIGHT IS THE SAFE HARBOR ISLAND WHERE, WHERE YOU'LL BE ABLE TO GET, WHERE YOU'LL HAVE MORE THAN JUST A WHITE STRIPE LINE OR YELLOW LINE TO PROTECT YOU FROM A VEHICLE.
AND THAT'S, UH, MOORE BARBECUE.
IT'LL TIE YOU TO THE BACKSIDE OF MOORE'S BARBECUE.
AND THEN THERE'S ONE SMALL SECTION FURTHER DOWN THAT WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE ON TO GLEN BURN RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CRAVEN COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD OFFICE.
SO WE'RE GONNA CONNECT THAT TO GLEN.
SO, YOU KNOW, WE, WE HEAR WHAT Y'ALL ARE SAYING OR TRYING TO CONNECT, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO.
WE'RE FACILITATING SOME, SOME INFIELD TO GET PEOPLE FROM ONE PLACE TO ANOTHER.
I DON'T KNOW IT'S THE RIGHT TIME TO BRING THIS UP OR NOT, BUT UH, SINCE WE'RE ON TRENT ROAD, WHEN ARE THEY GOING TO REPAVE TRENT ROAD? AND THE REASON I'M SAYING THAT, ARE THEY EVER GONNA MAKE IT THREE LANES ALL THE WAY DOWN? WE A TURN LANE IN THE MIDDLE? I KNOW WE, OR IT'S GONNA BE IN AND OUT DANGEROUS FOR BICYCLES.
YEAH, WE STILL NAMES, WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE SECTIONS THAT NARROW AND, AND WE ARE, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT WOULD BE IN FUTURE PLANS TO RESURFACE OR WIDEN ANY OF THOSE SECTIONS.
RIGHT? THAT'S THE CITY NEIGHBOR.
CITY NEIGHBOR BARN ACCEPTED IT FROM DOT SEVERAL YEARS AGO.
NO, AND THIS IS, THIS IS AN ADDITIONAL PROJECT THAT, UM, WILL PROBABLY START CONSTRUCTION ON THIS IN THE COMING MONTH.
THIS IS GOING TO BE A, A RAISED PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE BACKSIDE OF HENDERSON PARK OFF OF AN AREA WHERE THERE'S SUTTON AND GARDEN STREET.
THERE'S A, UH, A DIFFICULT CURVE THERE.
UM, WE'RE EVALUATING HOW TO GET OUT OF, AROUND THAT 90 DEGREE CURVE TO GET UP TO GARDEN.
UM, THEY'RE AGAIN, TRYING TO CONNECT THE NEW STANLEY WHITE REC CENTER TO THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, AREAS AND GOING THROUGH THAT PROPERTY.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE HEAR WHAT Y'ALL SAYING AND I TOTALLY AGREE THAT
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CONNECTIONS TO RETAIL, TO OUR PARKS AND TO THE SCHOOLS, ONCE YOU CONNECT THOSE, YOU BASICALLY ENCOMPASSED, YOU TOUCHED MOST OF THE RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES TO THEN BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT.YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE SIDEWALK RIGHT FROM YOUR COMMUNITY TO THE PRIMARY SIDEWALKS, BUT IF WE CAN GET SOME INFRASTRUCTURE RINGS IN, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S KIND OF A GOAL TO, TO GET IT.
IF WE CAN GET YOU THERE OUT OF YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEN YOU HAVE ACCESS.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT'S KIND OF IN OUR PLANNING STAGES, BUT THESE ARE THREE THAT ARE UPCOMING THAT YOU'LL SEE CONSTRUCTED BETWEEN NOW AND, UM, END OF SPRING NEXT YEAR.
SO NOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT WHAT THE CITY OF NEW BERN IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON, UM, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT NNC, DOT COMPLETE STREETS.
SO N-C-D-O-T HAS ITS OWN POLICY AND THE POLICY IS PRETTY ROBUST.
SO IT IT ALLOWS YOU TO LOOK AT IT FROM A PLANNING.
SO YOU START OFF IN WHERE DO YOU ENVISION FOR THAT FACILITY OR THAT IMPROVEMENT.
UM, BUT THAT NEED HAS TO BE IDENTIFIED AS A NEED, NOT JUST A WANT, BUT THEN ALSO NEEDS TO BE IN A PLAN.
UM, AND THEN ONCE IT'S IN A PLAN, IT MOVES THROUGH PROJECT DEVELOPMENT WHERE IT GETS PICKED UP FOR FUNDING AND THEY DO ANOTHER EVALUATION WHERE IT HAS CRITERIA TO SAY, UM, IS IT SOMETHING THAT WILL EITHER HELP OR HINDER THE PROJECT? UM, AND, AND ACTUALLY FUNDING'S NOT NECESSARILY ONE OF THOSE, OUR CRITERIA INTERESTING ENOUGH.
UM, BUT YOU ALSO LOOKING AT, UM, THOSE IMPROVEMENTS WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT A LARGER PROJECT, LOOKING AT A BRIDGE, UM, AND THEY'RE ALSO NOW LOOKING AT IT WHEN YOU DO RESURFACING.
SO WE TALKED ABOUT, UM, DOT IS SUPPOSED TO BE GETTING WITH THE CITY OF NEW BERN WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT RESURFACING ROADS OR THE COUNTY, UM, AND LOOKING AT THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO DIFFERENT STRIPING OR ADDING SOME PAVED SHOULDERS IF THERE'S ENOUGH RIGHT OF WAY, UM, AND SIGNAGE, ET CETERA.
AND THEN, UM, BUT THERE IS A COST SHARE, BUT THE INTERESTING, IF IT'S IN A PLAN, N-C-D-O-T WILL PAY THE FULL COST OF THAT, OF THAT IMPLEMENTATION.
UM, BUT IT HAS TO BE IN A PLAN AND THE NEED HAS TO BE IDENTIFIED.
AND SO THAT'S WHERE, UM, YOU ASK, WELL, WHAT KIND OF, WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? SO FOR COMPLETE STREETS, N-C-D-O-T HAS SEVERAL DIFFERENT, WHAT THEY CALL FACILITY TYPES.
SO THE A PEDESTRIAN FACILITY IS A SIDEWALK.
TYPICALLY THE ON-ROAD BICYCLE FACILITY IS POSSIBLY EITHER, UM, STRIPED BACK BIKE LANES OR WIDE PAVED SHOULDER.
SO YOU TYPICALLY HAVE THE WIDTH OF YOUR ROAD, THE, YOU KNOW, THE, THE LANE THAT YOU DRIVE IN, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE WHITE LINE, AND THEN YOU HAVE ANOTHER FOUR FEET.
SO IT GIVES, IT'S SUPPOSED TO GIVE SOME PROTECTION FOR YOUR CYCLIST.
YOU HAVE THE SHARED USE PATH, ALSO KNOWN AS A MULTI-USE PATH THAT IS TYPICALLY OUTSIDE OF THE ROADWAY FACILITY.
AND THERE'S TYPICALLY, UM, ABOUT THREE TO FOUR FEET SEPARATING THE TWO.
YOU HAVE THE SEPARATED BICYCLE FACILITY, WHICH IS LIKE A SHARED USE PATH.
IT'S JUST SEPARATED AND, AND SMALLER.
THE MULTI-USE PATH OR SHARED USE PATH IS TYPICALLY 10 FEET IN WIDTH.
UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE GREENWAY CROSSING, WHICH IS NOT, NOT, DOESN'T RUN PARALLEL TO THE ROAD.
IT JUST KIND OF TRAVERSES AROUND, YOU KNOW, OUTSIDE OF NC DOT'S RIGHT AWAY.
SO YOU CAN LOOK AT IT IF IT'S IN A PLAN, WHICH IS IMPORTANT.
WE WANT PUT ALL THAT COST ON NNC, DOT SO THAT IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT TAXPAYERS LOCALLY OR ANY CITY HAS TO PAY FOR IF IT'S NOT IN A PLAN, BUT THE NEEDS IDENTIFIED, THERE'S STILL AN OPPORTUNITY YOU CAN SEE HERE WHERE THERE'S A COST SHARE OPPORTUNITY.
AND THEN, UM, A BETTERMENT IS SOMETHING SUCH AS NNC, DOT IS WORKING ON AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT PROJECT, AND THEY'RE PUTTING IN, UM, PUSH BUTTONS AND CURB RAMPS, BUT WE NEED A LITTLE BIT OF SIDEWALK THE CITY CAN ASK THEM TO DO THAT SIDEWALK FOR US.
AND THAT'S A BETTERMENT, THAT'S A, WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE.
UM, AND THEN THAT, THAT BETTERMENT COST IS SOMETHING THAT THE CITY WOULD PAY FOR, BUT IT'S TYPICALLY, UM, A PERCENTAGE.
IT'S NOT NECESSARILY THE WHOLE COST.
THERE'S SOME WIGGLE ROOM IN THERE WITHIN CDOT.
SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THAT, IT'S A NEED, BUT NOT IN A PLAN THAT THE PO THE, UH, COST SHARES BASED ON POPULATION.
AND SO FOR THE CITY OF NEW BERN, WE WOULD BE BETWEEN A 10 AND 50,000.
SO OUR LOCAL SHARE IS ONLY 10% OF THAT COST.
SO THAT'S MUCH BETTER THAN PAYING 20%, MUCH BETTER THAN PAYING THAN A HUNDRED PERCENT OF THE COST.
BUT AGAIN, IT IS THE IMPORTANCE OF PUTTING IT IN A PLAN SO THAT THIS BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN IS ONE OF THOSE PLANS.
SO IT HAS TO BE IN A PLAN AND THAT THE NEED HAS TO BE THERE.
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NNC, DOT, WHERE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF PUTTING IT AS PART OF THEIR HIGHWAY PROJECT, THEY LOOK AT IT, THEY SAY, IS IT IN A PLAN? SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? THEY'RE DO T'S NOT GONNA CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK TO NOWHERE IF IT'S IN A PLAN AND MAYBE DO T'S GONNA CONSTRUCT PART OF IT, AND THEN MAYBE RENS GONNA COME BACK AND CONSTRUCT A PART OF IT SO THAT EVENTUALLY THERE'LL BE CONNECTIVITY.THEY'RE WILLING TO SIGN OFF ON THAT.
SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT, DOES YOUR RECOMMENDATION, IS IT VALID? DOES IT MAKE SENSE? THEN THEY'RE ASKING, IS THERE A DEMAND? AND SO AS, AS GEORGE MENTIONED, IS THERE A GOAT PATH? IS THERE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS? UM, AND IT HAS TO BE MORE THAN WE WANT IT.
DOT LIKES TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT.
SO THOSE ARE OPPORTUNITIES WHERE WE CAN CAPTURE SOME OF THAT DATA, UM, WHEN WE'RE ANALYZING NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THEN, SO WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT LIKE THE FUTURE LAND USE.
SO THEN WHAT TYPE OF FACILITIES BEING RECOMMENDED? SO IN THIS CASE, ARE WE LOOKING FOR, YOU KNOW, IS, IS THE NEED A SIDEWALK OR IT'S MORE PEDESTRIAN, OR IS THE NEED MORE FOR CYCLING? WHERE, UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT WHY PAID SHOULDERS OR MULTI-USE PACK? SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE WITH THAT WOULD BE IN THE COUNTY.
SO IN NORTH CAROLINA, COUNTIES DO NOT MAINTAIN SIDEWALKS.
SO WHEN YOU HAVE, UM, AN AREA IN THE COUNTY THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS, WE TYPICALLY REQUEST DOT TO DO WIDE PAVED SHOULDERS SO THAT YOU CAN GET THE PROTECTION FOR YOUR CYCLIST, BUT YOU'RE NOT NECESSARILY LOOKING FOR A SIDEWALK BECAUSE IT'LL NEVER GET FUNDED.
A COUNTY JUST DOESN'T DO THAT.
UM, AND SO PART OF THE COMPLETE STREETS POLICY, DO T'S TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT DOES THAT REALLY MEAN? HOW CAN, IF WE'RE GONNA SAY WE'RE COMPLETE STREETS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT, WE'RE LEVERAGING ALL OF OUR USERS EQUALLY, HOW DO WE CONSTRUCT SIDEWALKS IN A COUNTY? THEY DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER FOR THAT YET.
AND I'M NOT SURE THEY WILL FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, BUT THEY ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO THEN ALSO THEY ASK WHEN THEY'RE LOOKING AT THE EVALUATION METHODOLOGY IS WHAT IS THE ENVIRONMENT ENVIRONMENTAL RISK, AND THE SCHEDULE IMPACT? SO IF WE WERE GONNA ADD THIS FACILITY, WHAT'S THE IMPACT TO THE HIGHWAY PROJECT? BECAUSE ULTIMATELY THAT'S, THAT'S THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR THEM.
AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN THAT BE MUCH OF A CONVERSATION STOPPER BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT THIS AT THE VERY BEGINNING OF A PROJECT, NOT AT THE END OF A PROJECT.
AND THEN THEY LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL ANALYSIS.
WHAT IS THE COST? WHAT IS THE IMPACT? DO I HAVE TO GET ADDITIONAL RIGHT OF WAY? AND SO YOU KIND OF HAVE TO DO A LITTLE BIT OF BARTERING THAT MAYBE WE STARTED OFF WITH THE MULTI-USE PATH, BUT THAT'S NOT REALLY GONNA WORK.
'CAUSE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS GONNA BE TOO MUCH AND THAT'S GONNA DELAY THE PROJECT.
BUT WE REALLY STILL WANT THAT ACCOMMODATION.
MAYBE WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, A BUFFERED BIKE LANE, WHICH IS STILL CONNECTED TO THE ROAD.
YOU'RE NOT LOOKING FOR A 14 ADDITIONAL, 14 FEET OF RIGHT OF WAY, MAYBE YOU'RE ONLY LOOKING FOR FOUR.
SO THOSE ARE ALL THINGS AS PART OF THE EVALUATION FOR A COMPLETE STREETS FOR N-C-D-O-T.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THE NEW BERN BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIAN PLAN IS A, AS AN APPROVED PLAN.
BUT THE NPO ALSO HAS THE CRAVEN COUNTY COMPREHENSIVE TRANSPORTATION PLAN AND ARE THE NPOS LONG RANGE PLAN, WHICH IS CALLED THE METROPOLITAN TRANSPORTATION PLAN.
SO BOTH OF THOSE PLANS HAVE A BIKE AND HEAD ELEMENT AGAIN, 'CAUSE WE LOOK AT ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.
SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND I MENTIONED AS THE MPO, WE HAD JUST SUBMITTED SOME PROJECT FOR WHAT'S CALLED PRIORITIZATION.
SO N-C-D-O-T HAS A PROCESS EVERY TWO YEARS WHERE WE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE PROJECTS FOR POTENTIAL FUNDING, SCORING AND FUNDING.
AND SO I WANNA JUST PROVIDE A LIST OF, THESE ARE PROJECTS THAT WERE IDENTIFIED IN ONE OF THOSE PLANS I JUST MENTIONED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, UM, INSTALLING A SIDEWALK ON GLEN BURNIE.
UM, OUR, THE MLK BOULEVARD, WHICH WAS, UM, THE, THE MALL SIDE OF MLK THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A SIDEWALK ON BOTH SIDES.
AND THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT HAS BEEN PUT IN, UM, SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS TO GET FUNDED.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT IT AS A PART OF A HIGHWAY PROJECT WHERE WE WOULD IMPROVE THE ROAD AND INCLUDE SIDEWALKS.
AND WE ALSO INCLUDED IT AS, UM, DIFFERENT SECTIONS OF SIDEWALKS.
SO WE, WE PUT THAT PROJECT IN ABOUT FOUR DIFFERENT WAYS.
WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT LOWE'S BOULEVARD, A MULTI-USE PATH HOTEL DRIVE AS A BUFFERED BIKE LANE.
AND BOTH OF THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS CAME FROM THE BIKE AND PED, UM, PEDESTRIAN PLAN THAT WAS RECENTLY APPROVED.
THEN WE'RE LOOKING AT A MULTI-USE PATH ON ACADEMIC DRIVE, A SHARED USE PATH
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ON MCCARTHY AND, UM, SIDEWALK ON NEWS BOULEVARD.NOW WE'LL POINT OUT THAT, UM, WORK HAS ALREADY BEGUN PRELIMINARY ON NEWS BOULEVARD.
SO NEWS BOULEVARD, AS WE KNOW, UM, HAS LOTS OF SAFETY CONCERNS.
SO N-C-D-O-T HAS STARTED AND COMPLETED A FEASIBILITY STUDY.
SO FEASIBILITY STUDY IS LOOKING AT HOW FEASIBLE IS IT TO MAKE THE ROADWAY IMPROVEMENTS ALONG WITH OTHER PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS THAT WERE BEING REQUESTED.
SO ON NEWS BOULEVARD, WE'RE LOOKING AT CONSTRUCTING A SIDEWALK ON ONE SIDE AND A MULTI-USE PATH ON THE OTHER.
AND THIS WAS LOOKING AT, IN ESSENCE, FROM BOSCH BOULEVARD ALL THE WAY TO MLK.
SO THIS PROJECT IS A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN LINES IN A PIECE OF PAPER.
THEY IDENTIFIED THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY IDENTIFIED WHERE THE PATH, THE, THE PATH IS FOR BOTH THE SIDEWALK AND THE MULTI-USE.
UM, BUT THAT PROJECT IS CURRENTLY NOT FUNDED, IT'S JUST A PROJECT THAT WE EVALUATED.
THE NPO DID SUBMIT THAT PROJECT AGAIN AS PART OF THE HIGHWAY PRIORITIZATION.
SO WE WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT HOW THOSE PROJECTS SHAKE OUT FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR.
UM, I WILL ALSO POINT OUT THAT NC DOT IS WORKING ON A PEDESTRIAN AND CYCLIST, UM, VULNERABLE USER STUDY FOR NEWS BOULEVARD.
AND BASICALLY THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED THAT THAT SECTION, UH, IS, HAS LOTS OF CRASH HISTORIES AND THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT SAFER? SO, UM, FELICIA AND I, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, WE WALKED ENTIRE NEW BOULEVARD FROM THOSE SAME LIMITS, FROM RACETRACK ALL THE WAY TO ACTUALLY DOWNTOWN AND TO QUEEN.
WE, WE SAW PEOPLE WALKING, WE SAW CYCLISTS AND IT WAS GREAT 'CAUSE WE GOT THE DOCUMENT THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REAL NEED OF WHERE PEOPLE ARE COMING AND WHERE THEY'RE GOING.
CAN I JUST MAKE AN OBJECTION JUST FOR, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, GLEN BURNIE ROAD, MLK BOULEVARD AND NEWS BOULEVARD ARE ALL OWNED BY N-C-G-O-T.
THEY'RE NOT OWNED BY THE CITY OF NEWBURG.
AND SO THAT'S WHY WHEN DEANNA TALKS ABOUT DOT AND HAVING TO GET APPROVAL FOR THEM FROM THEM AND THEIR STUDIES AND THAT SORT OF THING, THAT'S BECAUSE THE CITY OF NEWBURG DOESN'T OWN THOSE THREE STREETS.
AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS CLEAR.
SO, SO OUT OF THESE PROJECTS, THE GLEN BURNIE ROAD, MCCARTHY BOULEVARD NEWS, FLORIDA, THAT'S N-C-D-O-T, THE REST OF 'EM ARE ONES WE SUBMITTED, BUT IT'S PROBABLY GONNA FALL BACK ON THE CITY OF NEWBURN TO DO THOSE.
'CAUSE THOSE ARE CITY OF STREET.
SO, UM, NOT ALL THE STREETS IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN ARE OWNED BY THE CITY.
AND SO SOMETIMES WHEN YOU MAKE COMPLAINTS OR SAY SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, ONE IMPROVEMENTS ON CERTAIN ONES, THESE STREETS, WE'VE GOTTA GO TO A CCBT.
UM, FOR GREENBRIER RESIDENCE, YOU KNOW, LOWERING THE SPEED LIMIT FOR 35 ON GLEN VERNEY, THE CITY HAD TO GO TO N-C-D-O-T TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN BECAUSE WET HOME.
SO I'M JUST WANTED BE CLEAR ON, ON THAT AND ALL OF THAT IS IN THE PLAN.
SO BEFORE WE START ON THE EMERALD ISLAND TRAIL, IS THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE PROJECTS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT? UM, AND I KNOW, UM, SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ANY QUESTIONS ON COMPLETE STREETS.
SORRY, I CAME IN A LITTLE BIT LATE.
UM, THIS MAY FALL OUT OF THE SCOPE OF THE COUNTY.
UM, BUT JUST TO SORT OF COME UP SPEED A LITTLE BIT, UH, WHERE WOULD ANY IMPROVEMENTS OR DEVELOPMENTS FALL IN RESPONSIBILITY WITH REGARDS TO, UH, BETWEEN HERE AND CHERRY POINT, MORE SPECIFICALLY BETWEEN CATFISH LAKE ROAD AND CHERRY POINT? SO THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE NPO.
SO I CAN TALK TO YOU AFTER THE MEETING IF YOU'D LIKE.
MM-HMM,
YOU, YOU SAID THAT IT, UM, IT NEEDS TO BE A PLAN IN PLACE.
HOW DOES ONE INITIATE, HOW DOES THAT GET INITIATED? HOW DOES A PLAN? WELL, I'M SO GLAD THAT YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION.
UM, SO THE, UM, THE NEWBURN AREA, NPO WILL BE UPDATING OUR LONG RANGE PLAN.
WE'RE GONNA START THAT INITIATIVE PROBABLY, UM, JULY OF NEXT YEAR, IF NOT SOONER.
AND SO IF YOU WILL PLEASE GIVE, GIVE US YOUR NAME AND, AND EMAIL.
WE WILL GLADLY, UM, INVITE YOU TO THE NEXT THOSE MEETINGS.
UM, BUT WE'RE GOING TO BE TAKING FEEDBACK 'CAUSE WE LOOK AT OUR, OUR AREA IS MORE THAN JUST NEWBURN.
SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THE WHOLE URBANIZED AREA.
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LARGE PART OF WHAT WE DO IS LOOKING AND SEEKING PUBLIC INPUT.BECAUSE ON THE SCALE OF THINGS, WHAT I'M SEEING AND, AND I, AND I, I, I AGREE THAT THOSE ARE IMPORTANT THINGS FOR ANYBODY THAT'S GONNA BE DOING SOME MAJOR CYCLING AROUND THE TOWN.
BUT IN GREENBRIER IT LOOKS LIKE THAT WOULD TAKE A FAR BACK SEAT, UM, TO GET SIDEWALKS.
OR NOW THAT I SEE THAT YOU ALL ALSO TALK ABOUT A SHARED USE PATH.
SO TO YOUR QUESTION THAT THE EASIEST THING IS FOR, SO THE PROJECTS THAT WE SUBMITTED HERE, MM-HMM
AND THOSE, AND THOSE PROJECTS WERE DISCUSSED WITH OUR BOARDS, WHICH IS THE TECHNICAL, THE TECHNICAL COORDINATING COMMITTEE, AND THEN OUR ADVISORY BOARD, WHICH IS THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY BOARD.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO BOARDS THAT OVERSEE THE MPO.
SO THE, THE FIRST THING WE NEED TO DO IS WE NEED TO GET IT IN A PLAN AS IDENTIFIED NEED AND THE WHY.
AND THEN AS WE GO THROUGH THE NEXT ROUND OF PRIORITIZATION, WHICH WE, WE JUST, IT'S EVERY TWO YEARS, THEN THEY WILL GIVE YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ADVOCATE FOR BRINGING THAT, THAT SECTION OF SIDEWALK AS A POTENTIAL PROJECT TO SUBMIT FOR PRIORITIZATION.
'CAUSE ONCE WE SUBMIT IT, THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT GETS FUNDED.
IT MEANS WE SUBMIT IT, IT GETS, UM, EVALUATED OR SCORED AND THEN IT HAS TO, AND THEN IF IT SCORES HIGH ENOUGH AND IT GETS FUNDED, BUT EVEN THEN, IF WE WERE GOING TO CONSTRUCT A SIDEWALK ON A CITY ROAD, THE TOWN STILL HAS TO COME TO THE TABLE WITH 20%.
SO IT'S, THERE'S STILL A COST TO THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
AND SO THAT'S WHY PLANNING FOR IT IS WHERE WE NEED TO START SO THAT THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE TO PAY A HUNDRED PERCENT OF SOME OF THESE COSTS.
AND I CAN ADDRESS A LITTLE BIT, UM, THIS NEWBURN PLAN HAS SOME, UH, ADDRESSES SOME OF YOUR CONCERNS SPECIFICALLY IN, IN GREENBOROUGH.
SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS, ARE THESE AVAILABLE? YEAH.
SO WHAT I WOULD RECOMMEND IS TAKING A LOOK AT THAT PLAN, UM, PAGE 49, PAGE 49 AND 50, UH, IS WHERE IT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSES GREENBRIER AND, UH, SOME OF THE GREEN SPACE THAT'S THERE ALSO, UH, GREENBRIER PARKWAY AND THE, UH, BASICALLY THE PATH THAT RUNS BEHIND PINE VALLEY.
AND THE, UH, IT WOULD BE A SHARED PATH BETWEEN THE TWO DEVELOPMENTS BETWEEN GREENBRIER AND THE DEVELOPMENT IS GONNA BE BEHIND YOU, THE WAREHOUSE.
SO, SO WHAT I'M SAYING IS TAKE A LOOK AT THAT PLAN.
THERE IS, AND, AND I REALLY WANT TO ADDRESS ALL THE COMMENTS THAT YOU FOLKS MADE TONIGHT.
A LOT OF THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN INCORPORATED IN THE NEW BERN PLAN.
THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE REALLY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PLAN JUST DOESN'T GO ON THE SHELF AND NOTHING HAPPENS FOR THE NEXT 20 YEARS.
ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT THIS NEW DEVELOPMENT BEHIND GREEN WIRE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE, WHERE MAYBE WHERE THE SCHOOL IS OR SOMETHING? NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT.
I'M TALKING ABOUT THE ER AREA.
YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLAN IF THERE'S SOME THINGS IN THERE.
UM, BUT THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMITTEE WAS TO KEEP THE PRESSURE ON THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
AND I TOLD YOU THIS LAST MEETING, THE IS TO KEEP THE PRESSURE ON THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
KEEP THE PRESSURE ON THE MPO, KEEP THE PRESSURE ON N-C-D-O-T TO CREATE AND RETROFIT NEW BERN WITH THE SIDEWALKS AND BIKEWAYS THAT WE NEED TO GET IMPLEMENTED.
SO, SO I WANTED, SO I BASICALLY WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE NOT IGNORING YOUR COMMENTS THAT YOU MADE TONIGHT.
ALL OF YOUR COMMENTS REALLY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE PLAN.
UH, BUT AS WAS STATED BY BILL AND MACK, THIS PLAN IS VERY COMPREHENSIVE.
AND SO REALLY THE PURPOSE OF THE COMMITTEE TOO WAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PRIORITIZE AND HOW TO GET IT FUNDED.
AND SO, UH, AND THEN TO HOLD US ACCOUNTABLE.
UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, I REALLY WANTED TO OKAY.
AND THAT'LL, THAT'LL GET US STARTED.
UM, AND SO THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, IN GOING THROUGH THIS AGENDA HERE, WE HAVEN'T IGNORED THIS.
IT'S ALREADY, I DIDN'T FEEL IGNORED.
UM, AND SORRY, DEANNA NO, YOU'RE, YOU'RE KIND OF TAKE IT OVER, BUT, UM, TAKE A LOOK AT THE PLAN.
AND, AND GIVE US FEEDBACK ON, ON THE PLAN.
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OUR PRIORITIZATION AS WELL.IF YOU LOOK AT THAT MAP AND IT SAYS SOMETHING LIKE THAT RING WAY WHERE IT SAYS SOME KIND OF MOTOR USE PLAN, IF YOU GO IN FRONT OF THE PLANT, YOU'LL SEE DIAGRAMS. SO SPECIFICALLY WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE A ROAD, A ZONE, A PATH, THEN A ZONE PAST THAT.
IT TELLS YOU EXACTLY WHAT EACH ONE OF THOSE LOOKS LIKE.
NO, THESE ARE ALL GREAT QUESTIONS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE HEARD FROM THE LAST MEETING WAS THE EMERALD IS TRAIL.
AND SO FELICIA AND I CALLED, UM, AND WE SPOKE WITH THEIR RECREATION, UM, DIRECTOR.
NOW, WHILE SHE WASN'T THERE WHEN THIS STARTED, SHE WAS ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME BACK BACKGROUND ON THE, THE PROJECT ITSELF.
SO THIS, UH,
AND THE GOAL FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WAS TO CONSTRUCT A MULTI-USE PATH FROM ONE END OF THE ISLAND TO THE NEXT.
SO IT'S QUITE A LOT, YOU KNOW, SO THEY FOCUSED ON THE FIRST SIX MILES AND UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO GET A GRANT FROM N-C-D-O-T, I BELIEVE, UM, OR MAYBE IT WAS FEDERAL HIGHWAY.
BUT, UM, AND THAT GRANT REQUIRED AN, IT WAS AN 80 20 SPLIT, WHICH MEANS IT'S 80% FUNDED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT AND 20% WAS THE LOCAL MATCH.
SO, UM, IN THAT FIRST SIX MILES THAT LOCAL SHERIFF WAS FROM THE TOWN.
SO THEY STILL HAD THE GOAL OF CONSTRUCTING, I THINK IT WAS, UM, THE NEXT SEVEN MILES.
AND SO WITH THAT, SINCE THEY HAD SO MUCH SUCCESS ON THE FIRST SECTION OF THE TRAIL, THE REMAINING SECTIONS, UM, IT WAS GREAT 'CAUSE THEY WERE ABLE TO GET EITHER MORE GRANTS FOR THE MAJORITY OF THOSE COSTS.
THE TOWN ACTUALLY DECIDED TO APPROVE A 1 CENT TAX INCREASE AT BE BEGAN IN, UM, 2012.
AND THEN WITH THAT THEY WERE ALSO ABLE TO START HAVING AN ANNUAL MARATHON.
AND WITH THAT THEY DECIDED, THE BOARD DECIDED THAT HALF OF THE REVENUE RECEIVED FROM THOSE THAT MARATHON EVERY YEAR WOULD GO BACK INTO TRAIL MAINTENANCE OR NEW TRAIL CONNECTIONS.
AND SO WITH THAT, SHE ESTIMATED ABOUT 20 TO $40,000 A YEAR IS REINVESTED BACK INTO THE TRAIL.
AND THEN THEY ALSO HA RELIED HEAVILY ON COMMUNITY DONORS.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE A DONOR WALL OF PEOPLE LIKE FRIENDS OF THE TRAIL WHO CAME AND, UM, HELPED SUPPORT THAT THE TRAIL AND THE VISION.
AND SO, UM, SHE ALLUDED EARLIER ABOUT THE BENEFITS OF A TRAIL.
WELL, OBVIOUSLY THEY HAD OUT AN OUTPOURING OF COMMUNITY SUPPORT.
UM, IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS DEFINITELY NEEDED.
BUT WITH THAT, THEY HAVE EVENTS THAT DRAW OVER 7,000 PEOPLE ANNUALLY TO EMERALD ISLAND.
AND SO YOU CAN IMAGINE THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT THAT HAS.
THEY'RE ALSO ABLE TO CREATE SOME WAY FINDING SIGNAGE.
UM, THEY DO HAVE A PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE SAFETY CAMPAIGN AND AWARENESS.
THEY DO STRUGGLE WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT DURING THE SUMMER JUST BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE.
THEY ACTUALLY HAVE SCOTERS AND E-BIKES.
SO THEY'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET THAT SAFETY, UM, AWARENESS OUT AND TRYING TO DISCOURAGE THEM FROM BEING ON THE TRAIL.
BUT LIKE I SAID, IT'S A GREAT INVESTMENT THAT THEY MADE IN THEIR COMMUNITY WITH A HUGE IMPACT.
UM, SO ULTIMATELY THEY'RE HAVING MUCH SUCCESS WITH THEIR TRAIL, I THINK IN THEIR CASE.
UM, AS GEORGE ALLUDED, UH, MENTIONED TO ME EARLIER THAT THEY HAD A EXISTING RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WAS ALREADY PRETTY WIDE.
SO, UM, THAT TENDS TO BE A, A HINDRANCE SOMETIMES TO HAVING A TRAIL.
AND THEY ALSO HAD A PRETTY MUCH STRAIGHT PATH.
SO IT WAS MUCH EASIER TO CONSTRUCT THAT, THAT MULTI-USE TRAIL JUST IN, YOU KNOW, THE TOPOGRAPHY, ET CETERA.
BUT WE WANTED TO REPORT BACK JUST BECAUSE THAT WASN'T, UM, SOMETHING THAT WAS BROUGHT UP AT THE FIRST MEETING.
AND JUST TO KIND OF MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF THE POSSIBILITIES OF WHAT, UM, WHAT ONE CAN DO WHEN YOU HAVE COMMUNITY SUPPORT FOR, UM, FOR A PROJECT.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS BROUGHT UP, AND YOU MENTIONED, AND I KNOW WHETHER THE CITY WOULD DO IT, THAT THE 1% ADDED TO THE TAX RAISE REVENUE.
I SAW THAT
SEE, YOU KNOW, AND, AND THAT'S, AND HONESTLY, AND I THINK I TOLD YOU THIS LAST TIME TOO, THE PURPOSE REALLY OF THIS COMMITTEE, UH, AS WELL IS TO FIGURE THIS OUT.
YOU KNOW, UH, HOW TO PAY FOR IT.
I MEAN, YOU KNOW, DEANNA IS IN INCREDIBLY EXPERIENCED ON, YOU KNOW, N-C-D-O-T AND FEDERAL GRANTS AND UH, DOT GRANTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
BUT AS YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU GO BACK TO THE PREVIOUS
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SLIDE, THEY HAD SOME CREATIVE WAYS TO PAY FOR IT LOCALLY AS WELL.AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, TRENT WOODS IS GOING THROUGH SOME OF THAT.
SOME OF THAT'S GRANT, SOME OF THAT'S NOT, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY HAD RIGHT AWAY ISSUES OR, OR NOT, BUT UM, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S FOR US TO TRY AND PUT TOGETHER A RECOMMENDATION ON HOW TO FUND IT FOR THE BOARD OF ALMOND TO APPROVE AS WELL.
YOU KNOW, THERE TO BE A FUND AROUND HERE THAT REX WILLIS HEADED UP WITH THE CHAIRMAN OF THE GROUP.
MAYBE YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET A LOT OF 'EM.
NO, I REMEMBER, UM, SOMEONE BROUGHT THAT UP IN ONE OF MY MEETINGS.
UM, BUT I KNOW YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT IT, WHAT IT'S CALLED.
IT'S NOT GONNA, YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET 20, 20, $30,000 OUT OF 'EM PROBABLY, BUT SOME SIGNAGE, YOU KNOW, FOR SEVERAL THOUSAND DOLLARS.
SOMEBODY CALL WRECK WITH US NOW.
NO, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
'CAUSE I, I, I, WE HAD A MEETING, I JUST CAN'T RECALL THE SPECIFIC NAME.
WE, WE WILL LOOK INTO AND REPORT BACK.
UH, I'M GONNA SEND OUT A COUPLE EMAILS TO SOMEBODY I KNOW THAT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AT RAISING MONEY AND SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY SUGGESTIONS.
AND, AND, AND THAT'S MY POINT AS WELL TO THE, TO THE PUBLIC THAT'S HERE.
YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE, IF IF THE PUBLIC IS WILLING TO HAVE AN OUTCRY TO, YOU KNOW, HEY, WE'RE GONNA PAY FOR THIS WITH AN INCREASE.
I THINK YOUR RECOMMENDATION WAS ACTUALLY SALES TAX.
AND, UH, SO, YOU KNOW, THOSE WE CAN DO TOO.
BUT YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC'S GOTTA BE BEHIND US ON THAT, YOU KNOW, IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
SO, I MEAN, PERHAPS A NONPROFIT LIKE PEDALING FOR PARKINSON'S TEAMS, WE CAN RAISE $20,000 IN A DAY EASILY.
BUT ANYWAY, THAT'S, SO AT THE LAST MEETING YOU ASKED US TO LOOK THROUGH THIS AND DECIDE WHAT WAS IMPORTANT TO US.
UM, SO I HAVE SOME AREAS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO US.
SO IF IF EVERYONE HAS THEIR OWN CERTAIN AREAS, MAYBE WE COULD KIND OF BREAK OFF AND CONCENTRATE ON OUR, SIT EVERYONE IN THE COMMITTEE IN THEIR CERTAIN AREAS AND THEN GET SOME HELP GUIDANCE FROM YOU AS TO THE STEPS THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE.
I, I, I'M JUST KIND OF BRAINSTORMING HERE ABOUT HOW TO MOVE FORWARD.
I MEAN, I SAW THE LATIN LAST MEETING IN THIS MEETING AS MORE OF AN EDUCATION.
AND SO WE, WE STAND READY TO HELP.
UM, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE, OUR ROLES FOR STAFF IS WE'RE SEEKING YOUR GUIDANCE AND YOU WANT US TO LOOK INTO SOMETHING AND THAT'S WHERE WE'LL START LOOKING INTO OR HELPING YOU FIGURE OUT NEXT STEPS.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, MY, I LIVE ON NEW BOULEVARD, I'M SORRY, WHERE I LIVE ON NEW BOULEVARD.
AND YOU DIDN'T SEEM TO WALK UP TO BOSCH.
YOU ALREADY STARTED AT RACETRACK.
AND I LIVE BETWEEN RACETRACK AND BOSCH.
AND SO IF YOU'RE WRITING SOME TYPE OF A REPORT OF WHAT YOU FOUND, I'M A GOOD RESOURCE FOR THAT BECAUSE THERE'S ACCIDENTS IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE ALL THE TIME.
AND I CANNOT LEAVE MY DRIVEWAY TO GET DOWNTOWN ON A BIKE.
I HAVE TO PUT IT IN MY CAR AND GO TO A SAFE SPOT AND THEN GET OFF MY BIKE AND DRIVE RIDE.
SO IF YOU'RE WRITING A REPORT, I'D LIKE TO BE, I'D LIKE TO GIVE YOU MY THOUGHTS ON THAT.
WHEN YOU DRAFT WHATEVER IT IS YOU, YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO OFFER N-C-D-O-T AS SOME RECOMMENDATIONS FOR TO FIX THAT AREA, THAT ROAD.
UM, ANOTHER AREA THAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS OAKS ROAD.
SO LOOKING AT THESE PLANS, UH, IT'S VERY, IT'S HARD FOR ME TO JUST FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT OAKS ROAD WAS GOING TO, WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT IN THE PLAN WITH, WITH OAKS ROAD.
WERE YOU LOOKING AT A BIKE LANE? I KNOW THERE'S A, A LOT OF, I THINK IT WAS A MULTI-USE PATH.
WAS IT A MULTI-USE PATH ON THAT ONE? SO IS OAK GROVE NEWBURN OR N-C-D-O-T? THAT'S, IT'S NEW.
AND UH, SEE RIGHT HERE IT SAYS OKAY.
WHERE THE PROBLEM COMES IN IS HERE.
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YOU CAN'T GET JUST SO FAR THE ROAD THERE.THAT'S WHERE THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT COMES IN.
AND THERE'S A LOT OF JURISDICTIONAL WEB LANDS, EITHER SIDE OF OAK ROAD.
UM, I GUESS THAT'S WHY ALL NEEDS TO BE PUT INTO HOW THAT WOULD ACHIEVED EITHER EITHER GOING DOWN THERE OR CHIEFS
BUT AT, AT SOME POINT YOU'VE GOTTEN ACROSS RE'S CREEK, RIGHT? 'CAUSE RIGHT NOW I GET OFF MARTIN MARIETTA AND JACK SMITH CREEK TOO AND UNLOAD MY BIKE AND THEN GO DOWN OAK.
THAT AND, AND WE'VE HAD LOTS OF CONVERSATION ABOUT, 'CAUSE WE ACTUALLY HAVE SIDEWALK NOW YOU ACTUALLY WALKED FROM, FROM TON CREEK ALL THE WAY AROUND UNTIL YOU GET TO THE INTERNATIONAL AT NEW AVENUE, RIGHT THERE AT
AND THEN NOW THE MEXICO IS HOW, HOW DO WE GET PEOPLE FROM THERE TO MARK MARIAT? YEAH.
UM, AND, AND YOU GET INTO SOME DIFFICULT AREAS WHERE YOU HAVE ERROR RIGHT AWAY.
UM, YOU'VE GOT HIGHLY SENSITIVE ENVIRONMENTAL AREAS THAT YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO CROSS AT SOME POINT.
SO, UM, JUST A DIFFICULT SPOT.
AND YOU SAY, HAS THERE EVER BEEN ANY THOUGHT OF DOING, LIKE IN, IN RALEIGH AREA, THE USED RIVER TRAIL, FOLLOW AROUND, USE RIVER GROUND, THERE'S A LOT OF HOUSES ALONG THERE, BEEN WASHED OUT, FLOODED SO MANY TIMES, IS THE STATE EVER GONNA BUY 'EM OUT OR ANYTHING? OR INSURANCE GONNA BUY 'EM OUT? WOULD YOU USE THAT LAND? THERE'S NOT TOO MANY BUYOUTS RIGHT ON THE WATER.
THEY'RE NOT, THEY SEEM TO GET BILLED BACK.
SO WHEN THEY, THEY PAY FOR IT.
'CAUSE THE, UM, BACK TO HERE, UM, IT'S ON PAGE 36, 36 MM-HMM.
SO 36 IS REALLY MORE OF, YOU'RE DOING WHAT'S CALLED THE SHARE ROW.
SO INSTEAD OF HAVING DEDICATED BIKE LANE, YOU'RE JUST, IT'S UM, UH, A BICYCLE WITH TWO ARROWS.
AND IT'S JUST BASICALLY TO EXPLAIN TO THE, YOUR MOTORIST THAT YOU'RE SHARING THE ROAD, BUT YOU DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED LANE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE MORE OF, UM, SIGNAGE SAYING THAT YOUR GREENWAYS, YOU KNOW, GO THIS WAY TO CONNECT TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, ET CETERA.
DOESN'T THE CHERYL MEAN THAT THE CYCLIST CAN TAKE THE WHOLE ENTIRE LANE PSYCH? IF YOU ARE A CYCLIST, YOU ARE A VEHICLE AND YOU HAVE THE WHOLE LANE.
AND SO THAT GOES BACK TO THE SAFETY PEDESTRIAN CAMPAIGN.
I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN CERTAINLY AS THE MPO WE CAN WORK ON.
UM, AND THAT'S MORE ABOUT EDUCATION AND AWARENESS.
UM, BUT YEAH, A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT AS A CYCLIST YOU CAN'T, YOU, YOU ARE A, YOU ARE CONSIDERED A VEHICLE.
BUT I'VE YET TO SEE A NORTH CAROLINA SIGN SAYING FOUR FEET FOR CYCLISTS.
THAT ALLOWING CYCLISTS IS CERTAIN BUFFER.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE LAW, FOUR FEET, IT'S THE LAW IS THE STICKER.
WHAT IT SAYS IS THAT, AND IT'S A NOTE OVER TO THE SIDE THAT A BICYCLE NEEDS FOUR FEET DOCK RIGHT IN.
SO THAT ESTABLISH FOUR FEET, THE BICYCLE'S GONNA BE IN THE MIDDLE, WHICH LEAVES TWO FEET.
AND THEN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.
AND SEE THE OT LAW SAYS THAT WHEN YOU PASS SOMEBODY, YOU GOTTA PASS 'EM BY AT LEAST TWO FEET.
SO YOU GOT THE BICYCLE, THE WOBBLE PATH, AND THE EXTRA TWO FEET, AND THAT'S WHERE THE FOUR FEET COME IN.
I HAVE SEEN SIGNS THAT APPEARED TO BE DOT SIGNS THAT DID SAY FOUR FEET, BUT THEY WERE NOT FIXED SIGNS THAT THEY, THEY FOLD OUT PORTABLE SIGNS AT CYCLE NORTH CAROLINA AND A LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE HAVE USED.
SO I'M LIKE, UH, BEN, YOU SAID THAT, YOU KNOW, I I
OTHER THAN AN INTERPRETATION LIKE I JUST GAVE YOU.
SO TO PASS A BICYCLIST, CAN YOU GO ACROSS A DOUBLE YELLOW LINE? YES, YES, YES.
YOU CAN GO CLOSE THE W YELLOW LINE FAST CYCLIST.
I IN A VEHICLE YOU MEAN IN A VEHICLE? YES.
THERE'S ALSO, THERE'S PLENTY OF CARS THAT WON'T, THEY'LL STAY BEHIND YOU BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT AWARE THAT EDUCATION, BIG THING.
AND UH, OF COURSE CERTAIN LIABILITY COMES
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WITH THAT AND YOU'RE STILL RESPONSIBLE IF AN ACCIDENT OCCURS.BUT IT ALSO FREES UP, YOU KNOW, I'M OUT THERE ON, UH,
SO THAT, SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FELICIA AND I CAN WORK ON WE CAN, WE CAN HELP CREATE A SAFETY CAMPAIGN.
UM, THERE WAS, WILMINGTON HAS A REALLY GOOD ONE THAT I REALLY LIKE.
UM, JACKSONVILLE WAS GETTING READY TO IMPLEMENT ONE.
UM, AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN KIND OF START WORKING ON THE FRAMEWORK AND THEN BRING IT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR SOME TWEAKING AND CHANGES, ET CETERA.
ONE OTHER COMMENT ABOUT THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY TO THE PEOPLE OVER HERE, UH, FROM THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE, PINE VALLEY SECTION ON THIS MAP SHOWS A, UH, A GREENWAY, UH, MAYBE SOMEBODY IN YOUR, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD SEE IF THEY COULD PUT TOGETHER A GROUP, THERE WOULD BE A REAL ADVOCACY TO HAVE THAT CHANGED TO A MOTOR BICYCLE.
I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION ABOUT THAT BECAUSE MY CONCERN ABOUT RIGHT WAY THE VEHICLES, WHEN CHILDREN ARE RIDING BICYCLES, THAT'S MY BIGGEST CONCERN.
I'VE SEEN A CHILD, AND I'VE SEEN IT ON, UH,
AND THAT'S WHAT GETS ME WORRIED OUT THERE ABOUT NOT HAVING SIGNS OUT THERE SAYING, HEY, YOU KNOW, BE AT WORK.
WHEN YOU SEE KIDS OUT THERE, IT GOES BACK TO A LOT OF DISTRACTED DRIVERS TOO.
AND IF THEY'RE NOT GONNA OBEY SPEED LIMITS AND, AND THE GENERAL RULES OF THE ROAD, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO PAY ATTENTION TO THESE SIGNS.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PROBLEM.
JUST, JUST, UM, TWICE THIS WEEK IT, I WAS ON, UM, GLEN BURNIE ROAD DOWN BY, UH, SPUNKY OODLES.
THERE WAS A MAJOR ACCIDENT AND THEN THE NEXT, VERY NEXT DAY UP BY THE, UM, FOOD LION.
AND IT WAS IN, IT APPEARED TO BE, 'CAUSE I CAME UPON 'EM, I GUESS, YOU KNOW, AFTER, OBVIOUSLY AFTER IT HAD HAPPENED.
BUT NEITHER OF 'EM, I MEAN, BOTH OF 'EM LOOKED LIKE THEY INVOLVED EACH TWO CARS.
NEITHER, NONE OF THE CARS DROVE AWAY, NEITHER OF THE TWO ACCIDENTS.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST CHANGED THE SPEED LIMIT ON THAT ONE SECTION OF, UM, GLEN VERDE DOWN TO 35.
THAT WORKED FINE FOR A WEEK OR TWO, BUT VERY FEW HONOR THAT NEW SPEED LIMIT.
PEOPLE STILL GO FASTER THAN THAT.
I DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? I HAD ANOTHER AREA WAS, UM, THE CROSSWALK THAT GOES OVER TO UNION POINT, UM, FROM EAST FRONT TO SOUTH IS FOUR SECONDS LONG AND I'M A VERY ACTIVE PERSON AND I CAN'T CROSS IT IN TIME.
SO IT'S THE, WHERE'S IT AT AGAIN? IT'S, UH, EAST FRONT AND SOUTH FRONT.
THAT INTERSECTION RIGHT THERE.
IT'S NOT THE ONE ON THE OTHER SIDE.
UM, ALSO WHEN YOU PUSH, WHEN YOU PUSH THE, UM, THE BUTTON, IT SEEMS TO PREFER TO MAKE SURE ALL THE CARS CAN DO WHAT THEY WANT TO DO BEFORE WE DO WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
SO IT'LL LET A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CARS GO BY.
AND SO THE PEOPLE DON'T WAIT BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIKE, OH, IT'S BROKEN, AND I KNOW IT'S NOT BECAUSE I USE IT THREE TIMES A DAY.
SO I, I KNOW IT'S NOT BROKEN, BUT I SEE ALL THESE PEOPLE JUST TAKING THESE CHANCES BECAUSE IT TAKES SO LONG FOR THAT LIFE TO CHANGE.
THAT'S, IT'S ALSO CONFUSING WHICH BUTTON TO PUSH.
SO I'M, I'M TAKING IT THAT YOU'RE GONNA, GEORGE, YOU'RE GONNA DEAL WITH THAT AND I'M NOT GONNA HAVE TO GO TO THE NEXT STEP.
LIKE, I'M GONNA, I'M GOING E EMAIL YOU OR CALL YOU OR SOMETHING SO I CAN GO DO THE NOOSE THING AND THE OAKS THING AND JUST GET ONE THING GOING ON THOSE AND I'LL JUST LET THAT ONE GO THERE.
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LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU GET A POWER, POWER BLINK IN 'EM, YOU KNOW THAT THEY DO HAVE COMPUTER MODULES IN THEM.WELL THEN THAT BEING SAID, SOMETIMES WE DON'T KNOW OH, SURE.
ALLOWS US TO ACTUALLY GO TAKE, WE JUST NEED TO TELL TELL SOMEONE.
WE PREFER PEOPLE NOT TO JUST DECIDE TO GO BECAUSE THEY WAIT LONGER.
SO WE'VE HEARD FROM MS. DAVIDSON, WE'VE HEARD A LITTLE BIT FROM MR. SADLER REAL QUICKLY, AND I,
BUT I WANT US TO HAVE A CONCENTRATED EFFORT ON WORKING WITH THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
I REALIZE THAT THE CITY OF NEW COUNTY ONLY DO SO MUCH, BUT AS AN NPO.
WELL NOW, SO
UM, HE, HE KIND OF LEFT THE CONVERSATION WHERE THERE'S, WE REALLY CAN'T ENFORCE THE SPEEDING LAWS.
YOU KNOW, WE, WE CAN CALM TRAFFIC, WE CAN PUT SOME DETERRENCE IN, BUT IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO WRITE A TICKET, A TICKET ON.
I'LL TAKE EAST FRONT STREET WHEN THE SPEED LIMIT IS 25.
THEY WON'T REALLY WRITE ONE UNTIL IT'S 35.
WELL, IF A CAR IS GOING 35 MILES AN HOUR ON EAST FRONT STREET, THEY ARE LOOKING.
THEY'RE BOUNCING OFF CARS AND TREES AND THINGS
SO HAVING SAID THAT, IT'D BE NICE TO KNOW WHAT THEIR POSITION WOULD BE WITH BICYCLE SAFETY.
DO THEY INTEND TO ENFORCE ANY BICYCLE LAWS INTERACTION WITH, UH, AUTOMOBILES, OUR VEHICLES, OUR WHAT, WHAT THEIR POSITION IS ON ALL THIS? UH, I THINK WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT WITH THE EDUCATION AND SAFETY CAMPAIGN.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, UM, MOST OF THESE ARE MODELED AFTER WHAT'S CALLED THE MC WATCH FOR ME.
AND PART OF THAT EDUCATION IS, IS NOT ONLY EDUCATING THE PUBLIC, BUT IT'S HAVING THAT RELATIONSHIP AND THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO IT'S NOT ALWAYS GIVING THEM, YOU KNOW, IT'S THE WILLINGNESS TO EDUCATE, MAYBE NOT NECESSARILY THROUGH A TICKET, BUT ALSO MAYBE REWARDING SOMEONE WHO IS DOING WONDERFUL, UM, BY ABIDING BY THE RULES.
RIGHT? SO, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY ENGAGE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS PART OF THAT SAFETY CAMPAIGN.
AND MY, MY GOAL IS SINCE OUR NEXT MEETING IS NOT UNTIL JANUARY, UM, IS MY GOAL MIGHT BE A LITTLE LOFTY, UM, IS TO HAVE JUST EITHER A, A SIMPLE FRAMEWORK OR MAYBE BRING SOME EXAMPLES OF OTHER SAFETY CAMPAIGNS TO SEE WHAT YOU LIKE AND WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE.
AND BY CERTAIN, CERTAINLY EMAIL US SOME OF YOUR IDEAS.
IF YOU FIND SOMETHING THAT YOU REALLY LIKE, YOU KNOW, LET US KNOW SO WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT.
I DO HAVE ONE THING I WANT ASK ON, UH, BROAD STREET, EAST BOULEVARD WHERE THEY'VE GOT THE BIKE LANE GOING DOWN THE PARKING LOT.
I CALL IT THE LEFT DOOR LANE IS ALL THAT IS.
WE HAD ONE OF OUR CYCLISTS GET HERE REALLY, REALLY BAD JUST FROM THAT.
SO I OPENED UP A CAR DOOR UP IN FRONT.
IS ANY WAY WE CAN GET AROUND ANYTHING LIKE THAT? I HATE TO SEE THOSE PUT IN, IN, IN PLAY LEFT DOOR LANES.
I MENTIONED THAT ONE TIME AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT DIDN'T MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS AS A BIKE LANE.
MAYBE BECAUSE THIS WIDTH OR SOMETHING, BUT MY CONTENTION, I THINK MY CONTENTION AS WELL.
AT LEAST GO AHEAD AND PUT A BICYCLE CHEVRON IN THERE.
AT LEAST TELL THEM THIS IS NOT SO MUCH FOR THE CYCLIST AS IT IS FOR THE PERSON PARK IN A CAR.
THAT THE BICYCLE MAY BE COMING ALONG HERE.
THE OTHER THING IS IN YOUR RING WAY, PUT THE BIG CHEVRON IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD, BUT HELP AS WELL.
WELL, I NEVER UNDERSTOOD WHAT I HAD ANY PARKING SPACES ALONG THERE ANYWAY.
VERY FEW CARS PARKED ON THESE
I KNOW NOBODY KNOWS WHAT THE CHEVRONS EVEN MEAN, ESPECIALLY DRIVERS.
THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, THEY'RE VERY UNEDUCATED.
THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT MEAN THEY BICYCLE SYMBOLS AND THE ROADS MEAN WELL.
BUT THE THING ABOUT IS AT LEAST THERE IS A BICYCLE SYMBOL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROAD.
AND THEY CAN SEE THAT, BUT THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CHEVRON'S MEAN ON THERE.
SO I'VE HEARD THIS EVENING WE'RE DEFINITELY IN FAVOR OF THE SAFETY CAMPAIGN.
SO WE'VE GOT SOME WORK CUT OUT FOR THAT.
AND I'VE HEARD SOME AREAS WHERE WE'RE INTERESTED IN SEEING SOMETHING.
WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT, UM, THE DOD
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OR I'M SORRY, THE DOT LAW ABOUT THE FOUR FOOT BUFFER.YOU GUYS WANTED TO SEE THAT IN WRITING AND THEN, UM, IF IT IS, BUT MAYBE THE LOOKING AT THE POSSIBILITY OF SIGNAGE IS I DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? ONE MORE THING.
SOMETHING THAT COULD BE DONE NOW THAT DON'T COST ANYTHING IS A FACT.
ON TRENT ROAD, OUR WHERE THE THREE QUARTER MILE BIKE LANE WE'VE GOT DOWN THERE, EVEN COMING DOWN HERE TONIGHT, I LOOKED PILES OF, UH, YARD DEBRIS IN THE LANE, TRASH CANS IN THE LANE, AND PEOPLE SWEEPING THEIR, HE HIS, ALL OF HIS LEAVES IN HIS YARD WENT RIGHT INTO THE LANE FROM HIS WHOLE LENGTH OF HIS HOUSE GO ALONG ON A BICYCLE.
YOU SWERVE RIGHT OUT IN THE MIDDLE OF TRAFFIC.
SO THAT'S MY BIGGEST PET PEEVE IS SEEING A TRASH CAN IN THE MIDDLE OF THE
YOU WOULDN'T PUT THINGS IN THE DRIVING LANE.
SO WHY
THEY DON'T KNOW NOT TO PUT THE STUFF DOWN.
WELL, AND WE DID ACTUALLY LAST YEAR PUT OUT A THINGS THROUGH COLLEEN OR ALL THAT, TRY AND PREVENT THAT AND, AND YOU BRING IT UP AS A, AS A BICYCLIST ISSUE.
BUT WE ALSO SEE THAT AS A HINDRANCE TO OUR DRAINAGE SYSTEMS. YEAH.
WHEN THEY PUT, PUT THEIR LOOSE LEAK IN A, IN A GUTTER LINE, SAME WITH THE TRASH CAN, UM, DRAIN EVENTS.
HOW ABOUT FINES? GIVE A FINE ONE TIME THEY DON'T DO IT ANYMORE.
SO WHEN SOMEBODY LOOKS AT SOMETHING LIKE THIS, UH, AND I'M SPEAKING TO THIS LADY RIGHT HERE, THIS AREA RIGHT HERE, YOU WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT HAPPENS BECAUSE THIS, THIS IS PINE VALLEY.
AND DO WE KNOW ON THE 43 EXTENSION WHEN ANY, I GUESS MY QUESTION REALLY IS IF I SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS DRUG CALL YOU, DO I CALL DOT? DO I? NO, YOU CAN CALL US.
SO ON THE NC 43 CONNECTOR, THEY ARE FINALIZING DESIGN NOW, UH, WHICH, AND THEY'LL GO OUT FOR ADVERTISEMENT FOR PROBABLY MIDDLE OF NEXT YEAR, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE REALLY EXCITED TO GET STARTED.
NOW, I'LL HAVE TO LET EVERYONE KNOW WHEN THE DESIGN OF NC 43 STARTED 10 YEARS AGO.
SO IN MY WORLD, THINGS DON'T HAPPEN FAST.
SO SHORT TERM FOR US AS FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
UM, SO YOU THINK ABOUT WHEN YOU IDENTIFY A PROJECT AND THEN IT HAS TO GET FUNDED AND THEN DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, THAT LITERALLY CAN BE FIVE TO 10 YEARS.
UM, SO WHEN NC 43 EXTENSION WAS BEING DESIGNED, COMPLETE STREETS DIDN'T, WAS NOT A THING.
SO AS MUCH AS WE WOULD LIKE THAT CONNECTION, BECAUSE IT'S A STRAIGHT POINT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT'S PART OF THE DESIGN OF WHAT DO T'S GOING TO CONSTRUCT.
IF THEY'RE TOO FAR GONE IN THE DESIGN, THEY CAN'T STOP AND DESIGN ALL OF THAT.
NOW THAT BEING SAID, THERE MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY IN THE FUTURE FOR US TO RETROFIT SOME TYPE OF PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATION.
UM, SO THAT FACILITY IS CALLED, UM, CONTROLLED ACCESS.
SO THINK OF IT LIKE, UM, US 70, THAT THAT CONTROLLED ACCESS, MEANING THAT YOU ONLY HAVE CERTAIN POINTS OF, UM, ENTRANCE AND THAT THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T ALLOW BY LAW, I GUESS, THAT YOU CAN RIDE A BIKE DOWN THAT CORRIDOR, BUT THE RIGHT OF WAY IS WIDE ENOUGH THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO COME IN ON A FUTURE DATE AND EITHER PUT IN LIKE A MULTI-USE PATH OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES.
BUT IT NOT, IT WILL NOT BE CONSTRUCTED WITH THE EXTENSION.
I WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT THE SYMBOL SAYS, UH, I DON'T HAVE MY GLASSES ON.
UM, A MORE USE BATH, SHARED USE BATH.
AND FOR THE RECORD I DID ASK, BUT NO, UM, THEY, IT WAS TOO FAR GONE AND IT MADE IT A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED TOO BECAUSE IT'S TECHNICALLY IN THE COUNTY STILL PARTS OF IT, PARTS OF IT IS BEING ANNEXED INTO THE CITY.
AND SO WHO PAYS THAT 20% THAT WOULD REQUIRED AND THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S A SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS WORTH OF TRAIL.
SO THAT ALL GOES BACK TO IF WE PLAN FOR IT AND THEN WE SET UP, WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF REVENUE TO, TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FUND THAT 20% WHEN PROJECTS COME UP THAT THE FUNDING'S ALREADY THERE, THAT WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, THAT PARTICULAR GRANT OR PROJECT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT ASSET TO THAT COMMUNITY AND FUTURE TO HAVE THAT PLACE WHERE YOU COULD GO RUNNING, YOU COULD GO TAKE A NICE LONG WALK.
I'M JUST HOPING I'D BE AROUND TO SEE SOMEBODY.
SO THE BIGGEST ACTION ITEM THAT I HEARD IS FROM, AT LEAST FROM STAFF, IS REALLY TO START WORKING ON A SAFETY CAMPAIGN.
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ANYTHING THAT, ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE US TO WORK ON OTHER THAN THE FEW ITEMS LIKE THOUGHT ON SAFETY, SAFETY CAMPAIGN, UM, THAT TO DEVELOP A, A SAFETY CAMPAIGN.SO WE'RE GOING TO WORK ON KIND OF A, A FRAMEWORK WITH SOME IDEAS.
WE'LL HAVE SOME EXAMPLES OF OTHERS, OTHER SAFETY CAMPAIGNS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK, WE REPORT BACK IN JANUARY WITH SOME EXAMPLES AND A FRAMEWORK, VERY LOOSE, UM, TO SEE YOUR INPUT JUST LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE ONCE YOU SAY IT OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, FINALLY GETS IN SOMEBODY'S BRAIN AND THAT'S WHAT IT'S GONNA TAKE.
GOTTA BE SAID OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN AND YOU BELIEVE IT.
SO DO YOU MIND IF I EMAIL YOU JUST WITH SOME OF COURSE.
UM, AND SO LAST MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT THAT WE WERE GENERALLY GONNA MEET THE FIRST MONDAY OF EVERY OTHER MONTH.
AND SO I HAVE A SCHEDULED, PROPOSED SCHEDULE, UM, OF OUR MEETINGS FOR NEXT CALENDAR YEAR.
SO OUR NEXT MEETING WOULD BE JANUARY 8TH, DEANNA IS YOUR, UM, EMAIL ADDRESS.
I THINK THAT'S OUR GENERIC ONE, BUT UM, IF YOU WAIT AFTER THE MEETING, I'LL GIVE YOU MY CARD.
I WAS JUST SAY, I THINK SEPTEMBER 2ND IS LABOR DAY.
YOU DIDN'T WANT IT OPEN? I MEAN, I'M GUN GO.
IS THERE ANY OTHER, UM, BUSINESS THAT THE COMMITTEE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS? ALRIGHT, I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO DISMISS.