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WELL, GOOD EVENING.

[Shot Spotter Pres 9 Nov 2023 ]

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GOOD EVENING.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US FOR THE NOVEMBER MEETING OF GREATER HILL RESIDENCE COUNCIL.

THIS IS A JOINT MEETING ALONG WITH THE NEW POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE PROFESSIONALS FROM SHOTS SPOT.

WE DON'T INTEND TO HOLD YOU LONG TONIGHT.

HOPE THAT WE CAN GET IN HERE AND GET THE PRESENTATION AND GET YOUR QUESTION, ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS AND THAT, SO THAT YOU CAN FEEL COMFORTABLE GOING BACK AND DISCUSSING THIS WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS.

AND THEN ASK THE CHIEF AND EVERYBODY KNOW IF YOU FEEL COMFORTABLE SUPPORTING.

SO WITH THAT, AGAIN, WE SAY WELCOME.

WE'RE GONNA START WITH A IMPLICATION FROM MY CALL, THE MAYOR OF DE FIELD, OUR OWN, UH, OUR ELDER, MS. SAMPSON.

AND THEN FROM THERE YOU'RE GONNA HEAR FROM OUR CHIEF CHIEF PATRICK GALLAGHER, AND HE WILL TAKE US THROUGH THE EVENING AND SHARE WITH YOU GUYS HOW HE WILL ADDRESS, TAKE QUESTIONS, SO FORTH.

SO, SO AGAIN, WELCOME, STEP BACK AND JUST ASK SOME GOOD QUESTIONS.

GOOD EVENING, LET US PRAY.

DEAR HEAVEN, FATHER, WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ONE MORE TIME.

DEAR LORD, WE THANK YOU FOR THIS GATHERING OF COMMUNITY LEADERS TO DISCUSS SITUATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY.

KNOW GOD AS WE GO FORWARD THIS EVENING.

HOPE GOD LET US ALL BE ON ONE ACCORD HOPE, GOD LET US PLAN WHAT IS BEST FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY.

SO, GOD, WE JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR THE LEADERSHIP OF THIS ORGANIZATION AND WE THANK YOU FOR OUR OFFICIALS THAT ALWAYS MAKE SURE THAT ALL CITIZENS ARE SAFE.

THESE ARE ALL OF THE BLESSINGS.

ASK IN YOUR NAME, IN THE NAME OF JESUS CHRIST.

AMEN.

AMEN.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. LITTLE TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES, BUT WE'LL GET PAST IT.

UM, I'M CERTAIN THAT WE DO WANNA HAVE, OKAY.

ALRIGHT, FOR NOW WE'RE WORKING.

ALRIGHT.

SO WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE AUDIO BECAUSE WE ARE VIDEOTAPING THIS SO THAT ANYBODY THAT COULD NOT BE HERE TONIGHT WOULD BE ABLE TO, UM, LISTEN TO REVIEW BETTER, UNDERSTAND WHAT IT'S WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND WHAT THE SHOT SPOTTER PROGRAM WILL ACTUALLY ACHIEVE HERE, INFIELD.

BUT BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, I WANNA PROVIDE SOME, UH, INTRODUCTION TO SOME PEOPLE.

BACK OFF AGAIN.

OH, WELL, THERE YOU GO.

SO I DO WANT TO INTRODUCE A FEW PEOPLE.

I WANT INTRODUCE, UH, ALDERMAN, UH, BARBARA BEST FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU, UM, FOR SUPPORTING THIS EVENT.

UM, FROM THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN PERSPECTIVE, I WANNA THANK, I WANNA THANK MY BOSS, UH, MARVIN WILLIAMS FOR BEING HERE AS WELL FROM THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE.

AND, UH, NOT LAST, BUT CERTAINLY BEFORE I GET TO THE LAST PERSON, I WANNA THANK, UH, A PARTNER OF MINE.

I HAVE NO BETTER PARTNER IN LAW ENFORCEMENT THAN SHERIFF CHIP HUGHES CAME OUT TONIGHT TO SUPPORT AND COURSE LAST BUT NOT LEAST, I, I NEVER TAKE OR OR MISS AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT, UH, MY FAVORITE PERSON, DR.

REVEREND SAMPSON HERE TONIGHT.

MOST OF WHAT YOU WANT TO HEAR TONIGHT IS NOT FROM ME, BUT I WILL BE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT I CAN ANSWER AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THE NEW BERN POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING IN TERMS OF TRYING TO CURB VIOLENCE IN THIS COMMUNITY.

BUT WHAT YOU DO WANT TO HEAR IS REALLY THE TECHNICAL SIDE OF WHAT SHOT SPOTTER DOES.

AND I HAVE BEEN BEFORE THIS BOARD, UM, OR THIS GROUP TWICE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT SHOCK SPOTTER IS.

AND I WAS ASKED MANY QUESTIONS ABOUT, UM, ISSUES, ABOUT PRIVACY AND ABOUT WHAT THE PROGRAM DOES OR MAYBE DOESN'T DO.

AND I MADE IT VERY CLEAR, I'M NOT A SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

WE NEED TO BRING SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS HERE SO THAT YOU STILL CAN'T HEAR ME.

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I CAN ONLY TALK UNTIL LOUD.

I'LL DO THE BEST I CAN.

UM, BUT YOU WANT TO HEAR FROM THEM.

THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

BUT THE ONE THING I WANT YOU TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE PROGRESS TONIGHT, I WAS ASKED BY A REPORTER ONLY TWO DAYS AGO, IN FACT, THE QUESTION AND THE ANSWER NEVER MADE IT ON THE TELEVISION.

SO I WILL TELL YOU WHAT THE QUESTION WAS.

THE QUESTION WAS, WILL SHOT SPOTTER ADVERSELY IMPACT ANY ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE? AND I SAID, OH, MOST CERTAINLY.

YES.

THERE IS A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT DO NOT WANT SHOP SPOTTER IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND THESE ARE THE PERSONS THAT HAVE NO CARE OF SYMPATHY FOR HUMAN LIFE.

THEY ARE FIRING A DEADLY WEAPON IN YOUR COMMUNITY.

AND WHAT COMES OUT OF THE BUSINESS END OF A FIREARM IS NON-DISCRIMINATORY.

WHATEVER IT HITS, IT WILL DESTROY.

AND WE ALL KNOW WHAT HAPPENED TO 19 MONTH OLD ANI SHEP TALKED, AND I WAS ASKED THIS QUESTION TOO, WHAT WAS IT BECAUSE OF HER DEATH THAT WE'RE HERE TODAY? AND I SAID, THE ANSWER TO THAT IS SIMPLE.

IT'S YES, BUT NOT IN AND OF ITSELF.

YES, ANI WAS ONE NAME IN A SERIES OF NAMES, AND I PROVIDED SOME STATISTICS AT THE LAST BOARD OF ALDERMAN MEETING WHERE I TALKED ABOUT THE FOUR PEOPLE THAT DIED AND THE SEVEN PEOPLE THAT HAD TO GO TO A HOSPITAL OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS IN JUST THIS NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE OF GUN VIOLENCE.

SO THAT IS THE REASON THAT I HAVE BEEN VERY VOCAL ABOUT WANTING TO BRING THIS TECHNOLOGY.

OH, THERE WE GO.

ALRIGHT, NOW I'M, THIS IS WHY I HAVE BEEN VERY VOCAL TRYING TO BRING THIS TECHNOLOGY TO THIS COMMUNITY.

SO WITH THAT, I WANT INTRODUCE PAUL AND DEB.

UM, AND THEY'RE FROM SOUND THINKING AND THEY'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WHAT A SOUND THINKING THOUGHT.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SHOTS.

THEY'LL, THEY'LL, THEY'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT.

UM, AND THEY'RE THE SUBJECT MATTER EXPERT.

THEY CAME IN.

THEY DO NOT LIVE IN NEW BERN.

IN FACT, DEB DOESN'T EVEN LIVE IN NORTH CAROLINA.

PAUL, DO YOU LIVE IN NORTH CAROLINA, NEW YORK.

PAUL IS FROM, I DUNNO, SOME PLACE UP NORTH.

I NEVER HEARD OF .

HE'S FROM A PLACE UP NORTH CALLED NEW YORK.

ONE OF THE THINGS I DID SAY WAS, UH, TONIGHT AT EIGHT 30, THE CAROLINA PANTHERS ARE ON TV TONIGHT.

SO BEAR WITH A NUMBER OF, YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF IN FRONT OF THE TV.

SO WE DO WANT TO MOVE THIS THING ALONG.

SO WITH THAT, WHO START? YES.

HI EVERYBODY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH CHIEF GALLAGHER FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY.

CAN YOU ANYBODY HEAR ME? ARE WE ON? YEP.

EXCELLENT.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH ALL OF YOU FOR COMING AND CARING ABOUT THE COMMUNITY AND CARING ABOUT WHAT SHOTS SPOTTER CAN DO FOR YOUR COMMUNITY.

UM, FIRST OFF, I'LL TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT OUR COMPANY AND THEN I'LL LET PAUL GET INTO THE, THE NITTY GRITTY OF IT ALL.

UH, THE COMPANY NOW IS SOUND THINKING FORMALLY SHOTSPOTTER.

WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR 27 PLUS YEARS.

WE'RE CURRENTLY DEPLOYED IN OVER 150 CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

SOMETHING WE'RE VERY PROUD OF IS WE HAVE A 99% RETENTION RATE, WHICH MEANS CITIES AND TOWNS THAT DO THAT DO TAKE US ON STAY WITH US.

AND WE'RE VERY PROUD OF THAT.

AND THE REASON FOR THE NAME CHANGE IS, LIKE I SAID, 27 YEARS, WE'VE BEEN SHOT SMARTER NOW THAT THE COMPANY IS SOUTH THINKING, BECAUSE WHAT WE LEARNED IS IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT DETECTING THE GUNSHOT TO SOLVE CRIME AND SAVE LIVES.

IT'S A WHOLE LOT MORE THAN THAT.

SO NOW WE HAVE A WHOLE SAFETY PLATFORM THAT IS, IT IS GEARED MAINLY TO, TO DO JUST THAT, SAVE LIVES AND SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

SO WHY, WHAT'S HAPPENING? HOW, HOW WILL SHOTS BARTER BENEFIT NEWBURGH? WELL, YOU'D BE SURPRISED TO HEAR THAT IN LESS THAN 20% OF GUNFIRE INCIDENTS ARE REPORTED TO 9 1 1.

THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T CARE.

I'M SURE THAT ALL OF YOU, IF YOU HEAR GUNFIRE, YOU'RE CALLING IT IN.

IT'S CERTAINLY NOT ABOUT THAT.

BUT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED IS PEOPLE WILL SOMETIMES THINK, IS IT GUNFIRE THAT WE'RE HEARING? IS IT POSSIBLY, UH, FIREWORKS? IS IT A, UM, DUMP TRUCK THAT'S DOWN ON THE PAVEMENT? IS THAT HELICOPTER WORRYING? AND THEN THERE'S, WELL, I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHAT THE, I'M NOT REALLY SURE IF THAT'S IT.

I'M SURE SOMEBODY ELSE IS CALLING WITH MORE INFORMATION.

SO I DON'T WANNA SEND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT ON A WILD GOOSE CHASE.

I'LL JUST LET THEM HANDLE.

AND THEN THERE'S RETALIATION.

WHAT HAPPENS IF I CALL THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND IF A CRUISER SHOWS UP IN MY DRIVEWAY

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AND NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN MY FA MY FAMILY MIGHT BE, UM, NOT, NOT BE SAFE RIGHT NOW, THEY HAVE A RETALIATION, THEY MAY BECOME THE VICTIMS. SO THERE'S THAT, THE ONE THAT REALLY KILLS ME TO SAY IS THAT CITIZENS MIGHT NOT CALL.

'CAUSE WE ARE USED TO LIVING IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S GUN FIRE.

OR EVEN WORSE, THE POLICE DON'T CARE WHERE WE'VE CALLED THIS GUNFIRE HAPPENING AND THE POLICE DON'T SHOW UP.

AND THAT IS CERTAINLY NOT THE ISSUE THAT'S HAPPENING.

THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE BECAUSE GRO POLICE DEPARTMENT DOES CARE.

THEY CARE ABOUT YOU AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ARE SAFE.

AND IF, AND THAT THESE CRIMES ARE SOLVED.

THAT'S POSSIBLE.

SO WHAT WHAT THIS CAN DO IS GET THE POLICE, FIRST OF ALL, BECAUSE OF THE TECHNOLOGY, THE POLICE WILL BE NOTIFIED IN LESS THAN 60 SECONDS.

WE ARE PROMISING ON OUR AGREEMENT THAT YOU WILL OR ELSE WILL BE NOTIFIED IN 60 SECONDS.

SO EVEN WHEN THERE IS A CALL THAT'S MADE BY, BY NINE ONE ONE, A LOT OF TIMES IT'S SITTING, YOU'RE TALKING TO, YOU'RE TALKING TO YOUR SPOUSE SAYING, SHOULD WE CALL? WHAT DO YOU THINK? LET'S MAKE THAT CALL.

AND SOMETIMES 15, 20 MINUTES, HALF HOUR CAN GO BY BEFORE THAT CALL CAN EVEN GET MADE.

IN THIS CASE, BECAUSE OF THIS, THE POLICE PROBABLY NOTIFIED WITHIN 60 SECONDS.

SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS THEY'RE GOING TO SHOW UP AT THAT, AT THAT SCENE, WHICH THAT SCENE IS GOING TO BE.

THEY'RE GONNA BE GIVEN A A 25 METER RADIUS.

SO THEY'LL KNOW PRETTY MUCH WHERE THEY'RE GOING IN THAT CIRCLE.

AND IN THAT CIRCLE THEY COULD POTENTIALLY FIND SUSPECTS.

THEY'RE SHOWING UP WITHIN, THEY'RE GETTING THAT NOTIFICATION WITHIN 60 SECONDS SO THEY CAN GET TO THAT CRIME SCENE.

THEY HAVE POTENTIAL TO FIND SUSPECTS, BUT THEN FIND GUN CASES TO FIND CASINGS, POTENTIAL FIND VICTIMS THAT POTENTIALLY BE, IF NOT THE MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR INCIDENT, MAJOR INCIDENT.

SO TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE THAT FAST COULD NOT ONLY WHAT, WHAT THEY COULD POTENTIALLY FIND IN THAT RADIUS, THEY'RE GOING TO KNOW, IS IT, UH, MORE THAN ONE, MORE THAN ONE PERSON? UH, WHAT KIND OF SHOOTER IS IT? IS IT AN AUTOMATIC, AUTOMATIC, AUTOMATIC WEAPON? UM, IS IT A DRIVE BY? IS IT A MOVING, IS IT A MOVING VEHICLE? IS IT THAT THE GUNSHOT WILL BE TIMESTAMPED? THEY'LL KNOW WHERE THE GUN, WHERE THE GUNFIRE WAS TAKING PLACE AND WHEN.

SO THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT BENEFITS AND ALL, NOT TO MENTION THAT THEY'RE ALSO SAFER GOING INTO GOING INTO IT.

THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THEY, THEY GO AROUND WHERE, WHERE THERE COULD BE POTENTIAL GUNFIRE TAKING PLACE.

THEY SEE A STREET VIEW AS TO WHERE THEY'RE GOING.

THEY HAVE, THEY CAN ACTUALLY HEAR THE GUNFIRE SO THEY'LL KNOW WHAT, WHAT EXACTLY THEY'RE UP AGAINST.

SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO PAUL TO DO IT.

SHOW US A VIDEO AND ANSWERING THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE.

AGAIN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING HERE FOR THAT.

APPRECIATE THAT.

SO, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE A FEW, FEW THINGS THAT I WANT TO ADDRESS.

UM, WE'VE HEARD SOME CONCERNS, UH, YOUR FOLKS HAVE SHARED THOSE WITH US, ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS.

BUT ALSO WE'RE GONNA END IT OFF WITH A, A QUICK VIDEO OVERVIEW SO YOU CAN REALLY WRAP IT ALL TOGETHER AND, AND SEE EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE KNOW AND THAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT IN MANY COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY, IT'S NOT OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ENGAGED IN VIOLENCE.

NOT ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOODS, SOMETIMES NOT EVEN ENTIRE LIVES, RIGHT? LESS THAN 1% OF YOUR POPULATION IS GONNA ACCOUNT FOR MORE THAN HALF OF THE VIOLENCE THAT'S COME.

SO THAT'S WHY WE NEED A TOOL LIKE THIS SO WE CAN BE MORE PRECISE AND WE'RE NOT JUST RUNNING UP ON ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO WE THINK MIGHT BE A SUSPECT OF CRIME, RIGHT? SO THIS IS WHAT WE LIKE TO TRY TO CALL, UH, PRECISION POLICE.

WE'RE TRYING TO ALLOW YOUR OFFICERS TO BE MORE EFFICIENT, MORE EFFECTIVE AT THEIR JOBS AND BUILD BETTER RELATIONSHIPS WITH YOU ALL.

ESPECIALLY IF THEY KNOW, OKAY, THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE THE SHOTS WERE FIRED.

WE'RE NOT GONNA GO TO THIS BLOCK.

WE'RE NOT GONNA GO TO THAT BLOCK.

AND IN KNOW, IN MANY COMMUNITIES, FOLKS ARE NOT SEEING POLICE RESPONDING TO SHOTS.

SO, LIKE DEB SAID, IN MANY CASES THEY DON'T THINK THEY CARE WHEN IN REALITY, IN MOST CASES, THEY JUST DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENING RIGHT THEN, RIGHT THERE.

THEY ONLY FIND OUT AFTER THE FACT, AFTER SOMEONE SHOWS UP AT THE HOSPITAL, UH, AFTER THEY GET A NINE ONE ONE CALL THAT MIGHT BE TWO BLOCKS AWAY, UH, OR 9 1 1 CALL.

THAT MIGHT BE 15, 20, A THIRD MINUTES LATER.

THIS IS WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO, TO COMPLIMENT.

WE'RE TRYING TO HELP THEIR EFFORTS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DOING, UH, MORE WITH, WITH WHAT THEY HAVE.

SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE SAY WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE GOOD AT AND AND WE'VE SEEN IS THAT WHEN FOLKS UNDERSTAND THAT SHOT SPOTTERS IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY BECOME LESS LIKELY TO SHOOT

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WHEN THEY KNOW AND UNDERSTAND, OKAY, SOMEONE'S GONNA RESPOND TO THIS SHOOTING.

ESPECIALLY IF IT'S IN AN AREA THAT'S COVERED BY SHOT SPOTTER.

UM, IT DOESN'T STOP THEM.

WE WON'T, WE WON'T SAY THAT, RIGHT? IT'S NOT GONNA BE THE END ALLALL TO GUN VIOLENCE.

THERE'S SO MANY FACTORS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO GUN VIOLENCE AND I'M GONNA GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT TOO.

UM, BUT SHOT SPOTTER IS REALLY A TOOL THAT CAN BE USED TO HELP MITIGATE SOME OF THE VIOLENCE.

AND WE'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF SAVING LIVES FIRST AND FOREMOST, ABOVE EVERYTHING ELSE, WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING TO VICTIMS OF GUN VIOLENCE BEFORE THEY CAN BLEED OUT TODAY.

ALRIGHT, SO WHAT I TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE UNDERLYING, UH, CAUSES OF GUN VIOLENCE.

MANY OF YOU KNOW THESE ALREADY, RIGHT? SOME OF, FOR IN MANY CASES A SIMPLE ACCESS, LACK OF ACCESS TO BASIC RESOURCES THAT DRIVE PEOPLE TO BECOME VIOLENT, WHETHER THAT'S PHYSICALLY, UH, TO THEMSELVES OR TO OTHERS.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED IS THAT WE WERE COLLECTING VERY IMPORTANT DATA ABOUT WHERE THE VIRUS HAPPENED AND WHEN, RIGHT? MOST FREQUENTLY.

SO NOW WE'RE NOT JUST SHARING THIS DATA WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY'RE GONNA GET THE IMMEDIATE NOTIFICATIONS OF WHEN GUNSHOTS ARE FIRED, RIGHT? BUT THERE ARE OTHER STAKEHOLDERS IN YOUR COMMUNITY POTENTIALLY CREDIT THE MESSENGER PROGRAM, POTENTIALLY SOCIAL WORKERS, POTENTIALLY FOLKS THAT ARE WORKING ON SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND HEALTH BENEFITS THAT CAN BE MORE PROACTIVE AND SEEING EXACTLY WHERE THIS VIRUS HAPPENING.

SO THEY CAN USE THAT INSIGHT TO FIGURE OUT, OKAY, MAYBE WE SHOULD GO TO THIS BLOCK AND OFFER OUR SERVICES IN A MORE PROACTIVE WAY RATHER THAN WAITING UNTIL WE GET A CALL FOR REFERRAL, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THE POLICE OFTENTIMES HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR 9 1 1 CALLS.

NOW THEY DON'T HAVE TO WAIT.

AND WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S NOT JUST THE POLICE THAT ARE, ARE RESPONDING TO THE GUN FIRE AND THE GUN VIOLENCE OR WRAPPING OUR, OUR ARMS AROUND THE COMMUNITY IN A WAY THAT ALLOWS FOLKS TO, AGAIN, USE THEIR RESOURCES, BUT ALSO MORE INSIGHT AND MORE INFORMATION THAN THEY PROBABLY HAD BEFORE.

A LOT OF FOLKS SAY THAT THEY KNOW, THEY KNOW WHERE THE GUN VIOLENCE IS HAPPENING.

THEY KNOW WHERE IT'S AT, WHERE, WHERE IT'S WHEN IT'S HAPPENING.

BUT SOMETIMES IT'S JUST NOT AS ACCURATE AS WHAT YOU CAN SEE THE DIALOGUE AND YOU CAN SEE THE EXACT TIME IT HAPPENED AT NIGHT OR WHICH DAY.

IT'S, UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE PROGRAMS THAT WE ARE BUILDING OUT, UM, IS A, UH, A PROGRAM CALLED PRECISION HAMILTON CARE, WHERE THERE ARE SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY THAT, UH, THAT USE A HANDLE WITH CARE PROGRAM THAT, UH, ALLOWS OFFICERS TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE DIVERTED STUDENTS FROM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM IF THEY'VE EXPOSED TO SPECIFIC VIOLENCE.

IF THEY'VE, THEY'VE MADE A RECENT ARREST OF A MOM OR A DAD OR SOMEONE IN THE FAMILY OR THE HOUSE, THEY CAN ALERT THE SCHOOL AND SAY, HEY, THIS PERSON'S PROBABLY GOING TO NEED SOME SORT OF HELP OR SOME SORT OF RESOURCES, BUT WE WANT TO LET YOU KNOW AHEAD OF TIME SO THAT IF THEY COME TO SCHOOL, THEY ACT OUT.

THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS WHY.

NOW WE COULD GET A SENSE OF WHICH STUDENTS ARE BEING EXPOSED TO REPEATED GUNFIRE AND ALERT SCHOOL OFFICIALS AND SAY, HEY, LAYER ON TOP OF THE INFORMATION YOU'RE ALREADY GETTING, HERE ARE THE STUDENTS THAT MIGHT BE EXPOSED TO REPEATED GUNFIRE.

AND THIS IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE REASONS YOU MIGHT SEE.

MAYBE THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP THE NEXT DAY.

MAYBE THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP THE DAY AFTERWARDS.

AND NOW YOU CAN USE THIS INFORMATION TO HELP GAIN INSIGHT AND FURTHER DIVERT YOUNG PEOPLE FROM AWAY FROM THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM.

UH, SO THIS IS OUR DATA PROGRAM.

THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS THAT WE PARTNER WITH.

AND IF WE COME TO NEWBURG, WE WOULD ABSOLUTELY LOVE TO WORK WITH ANYONE AND EVERYONE WHO IS, WHO'S REALLY CARES ABOUT DRIVING DOWN THE GUNFIRE AND THE GUN VIOLENCE IN THIS COMMUNITY THE WAY THAT THEY DON'T KNOW.

UM, SO I DON'T HAVE A SLIDE FOR THIS, BUT I'VE HEARD THAT PRIVACY IS THE CONCERN.

AND WE DO NOT LISTEN FOR VOICES.

WE LISTEN FOR LOUD BANGS, BOOS, AND POPS THAT HAVE TO BE OVER A CERTAIN DECIBEL.

AND WE PLACE OUR SENSORS HIGH ABOVE THE GROUND ON TOP OF LIGHT POLES, GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, SMALL BUSINESSES, FOLKS THAT AGREED TO ALLOW TO PUT OUR SENSORS THERE.

AND THOSE ARE THE ONLY THINGS THAT THEY'RE LISTENING FOR.

AND WE HAVE A SORT OF ALGORITHM THAT'S BEEN IN PLACE FOR AT LEAST A DECADE NOW, BUT IT'S BEEN IMPROVING EVERY SINGLE DAY.

BUT PART OF WHAT HELPS IMPROVE THAT IS WE HAVE FOLKS IN WHAT WE CALL INCIDENT REVIEW CENTERS.

ONE IN NEWARK, CALIFORNIA AND ONE IN WASHINGTON DC AND THEY SIT IN FRONT OF A, A COMPUTER AND THEY GET, THEY GET ALERTED WHEN THE SENSORS PICK UP THOSE GUNSHOTS.

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AND THIS IS THE, THE VIDEO'S GONNA GO OVER THIS A LITTLE BIT TOO, BUT I WANNA SAY IT RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW WHILE I HAVE YOU.

AND WHEN THEY SEE, WHEN THEY HEAR THE GUNSHOTS, THEY CAN LISTEN TO THE SOUNDS OF THE GUNSHOTS, BUT THEY CAN ALSO SEE THE WAVEFORM CONFIGURATIONS ON THEIR SCREEN TO BETTER DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN GUNFIRE, CARS, BACK FIRING, FIREWORKS, CONSTRUCTION, ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

RIGHT? AND THIS HAS BEEN IMPROVING STEADILY DAY IN, DAY OUT, YEAR AFTER YEAR SINCE IT'S BEEN AN IMPLEMENTATION.

UM, AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ABLE TO PROMISE OVER 90%, UH, POSITIVE, UH, I FORGET THE RIGHT TERM EXACTLY, BUT ACCURACY IN OUR CONTRACT.

UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

YES.

YEAH, FOR SURE.

UH, SO WE HAVE A LESS THAN 1% FALSE POSITIVE RATE THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS GUARANTEE, BUT IT HAPPENS.

THAT'S THE INFORMATION THAT WE'VE BEEN GETTING BACK FROM THE DEPARTMENTS THAT WE WORK WITH ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

UM, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ALLEVIATE YOUR CONCERNS ABOUT THAT.

'CAUSE I LIVE IN A, IN A, IN AN AREA THAT'S COVERED BY SHOTS FIBERS AS WELL.

AND I WOULD STRONGLY ADVOCATE AGAINST IT IF I KNEW THAT THEY WERE PICKING UP THE SOUNDS AND VOICES IN THEIR, UH, IN, IN THEIR WORK.

SO TO, TO RECAP BEFORE I START THE VIDEO, UH, WE CAN IDENTIFY HIGH RISK AREAS THAT NEED MORE SUPPORT THAN OTHERS.

UH, WE CAN HELP LOCAL AUTHORITIES, IN ADDITION TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, GAIN MORE INSIGHTS INTO WHERE THEY SHOULD BE DEPLOYING THEIR RESOURCES.

UH, WE CAN MONITOR TRENDS.

WHEN WE SAY MONITOR TRENDS, AGAIN, WE CAN SEE WHEN GUNFIRE IS HAPPENING AND WHERE IT'S HAPPENING MOST.

SO THAT, SAY YOU'RE LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR AN AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAM OR SOMETHING, NOW YOU CAN SAY, OKAY, THESE SCHOOLS PROBABLY BE PRIORITIZED FOR THOSE AFTERSCHOOL PROGRAMS BECAUSE THE AREAS SURROUNDING THESE SCHOOLS IS EXPERIENCING THE MOST GUNFIRE MOST OFTEN, AND SET DEVELOPING EQUITABLE SUPPORT STRATEGIES.

SO MY , UH, DEVELOPING THAT EQUITABLE SUPPORT STRATEGIES IS REALLY MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE PRIORITIZING THE AREAS AND THE PLACES WITHIN THE COMMUNITY THAT NEED THE MOST SUPPORT.

UM, AND ALLOW THIS DATA INFORMATION ALLOWS US TO DO THAT.

THAT'S THE WEBSITE FOR THE DAY OF THE GOOD PROGRAM.

AND THIS IS THE VIDEO SOUND EFFECTIVELY.

YOU KNOW, THE FEAR GUNFIRE IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT CAME FROM.

IS IT CLOSE? DID SOMEONE ALREADY CALL 9 1 1 ON MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS? OKAY.

IS THERE A VICTIM BLEEDING OUT IN THE EVENT OF THE SHOOTING A MINUTE COULD BE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIFE OR DEATH, A LIFE OR DEATH SITUATION IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

WITH SHOT SPOT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE NOTIFIED WITHIN A MINUTE OF GUN CRIME, DEPLOYING POLICE OFFICERS AND OTHER FIRST RESPONDERS TO THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE SHOOTING.

THEIR RAPID RESPONSE SAVES LIVES AND DISRUPTS THE GUN VIOLENCE SITE SHUT SPOTTER'S.

GUNSHOT DETECTION TECHNOLOGY STARTS WITH ACOUSTIC SENSORS POSITIONED ON TOP OF BUILDINGS OR STREET LAMPS.

IF GUNFIRE IS HEARD IN THE COVERAGE AREA, THE SENSORS WILL DETECT AND TIMESTAMP THE SOUND.

THE PRECISE LOCATION IS DETERMINED BY ANALYZING THE TIME IT TAKES FOR THE SOUND TO TRAVEL TO EACH SENSOR.

EFFECTIVELY TRIANGULATING THE SOUND, A POSSIBLE GUNSHOT IS ANALYZED BY AN ACTUAL PERSON IN THE INCIDENT REVIEW CENTER.

FROM THERE, THEY DETERMINE CRUCIAL INFORMATION.

IS IT A SINGLE SHOOTER OR MULTIPLE? BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IS IT ACTUALLY GUNFIRE OR IS IT A FIREWORK OR A CAR? BACKFIRE.

IF IT'S GUNFIRE, AN ALERT IS SENT WITHIN 60 SECONDS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THIS IS CRUCIAL AS OVER 80% OF GUNFIRE GOES UNREPORTED.

WHEN GUNFIRE GOES UNREPORTED, LIVES ARE LOST AND GUN VIOLENT LIVES BECOMES NORMALIZED.

I DO KNOW THAT IN FACT THERE WERE SEVERAL LIVES SAVED AND ONE ACTUALLY IN OUR COMMUNITY DUE TO SHOT SPOTTER, A MAN WAS SHOT ON OUR STREETS AND NO ONE HAD ALERTED POLICE TO THE SHOTS BEING FIRED.

THEREFORE, THE POLICE SHOWED UP AND THE MAN WAS NOT RESPONSIVE.

SO THEY ADMINISTERED CPR TO THIS MAN AND SAVED HIS LIFE.

HE'S ALIVE TODAY BECAUSE OF SHOT SPOTTER.

THEY'RE ARE MANY REASONS WHY

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GUNFIRE CAN GO UNREPORTED.

SOMETIMES COMMUNITY MEMBERS ARE NOT SURE IF WHAT THEY HEARD WAS GUNFIRE.

PERHAPS THEY THINK SOMEONE ELSE WILL CALL, OR MAYBE IT'S SO COMMON THAT THEY'RE DESENSITIZED TO IT.

AND IN SOME CASES, THEY'RE SIMPLY SCARED OF RETALIATION SHOTS.

SPOTTER ENABLES A RAPID, CONSISTENT AND PRECISE RESPONSE THAT CAN SAVE LIVES.

WE HAD 7 32 SHOOTINGS, UH, LAST YEAR, AND THE MAJORITY OF THOSE WERE PICKED BY SHOT SPOTTER, WHICH MEANS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO RESPOND QUICKER IN RESPONSE TO THE HIGHER PROBABILITY THERE EXISTS, THAT WE'RE GONNA SAVE LIFE.

THE PRECISE LOCATION INFORMATION PROVIDED BY SHOTSPOTTER HELPS INVESTIGATORS COLLECT EVIDENCE, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, SHELL CASINGS EVIDENCE THAT CAN SOLVE CRIMES AND TAKE DANGEROUS CRIMINALS OFF THE STREETS.

THERE'S JUST A BUNCH OF DATA THAT SAYS THAT, YOU KNOW, CRIME HAS GONE DOWN THE COMMUNITY.

AND I REALLY ATTRIBUTE THAT TO, UH, HAVING SHOTS SPOTTER IN THE COMMUNITY.

IMPROVING THE POLICE COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP BEGINS WITH TRANSPARENCY SHOTS, SPOTTER'S, REPORTING CAPABILITIES ON RESPONSE TIME AND GROUND TRUTH SUCH AS EVIDENCE COLLECTION, IMPROVE POLICE ACCOUNTABILITY AND TRANSPARENCY.

THAT TRANSPARENCY BUILDS TRUST.

TRUST THAT YOUR POLICE DEPARTMENT CAN RESPOND TO AN EMERGENCY AS FAST AS POSSIBLE.

SHOP SPOTTER'S GUNSHOT DETECTION SYSTEM IS CURRENTLY USED BY MORE THAN 150 CITIES.

WITH SHOT SPOTTER HAVING BEEN DEPLOYED IN RANGE FOR A YEAR NOW, WE'VE SEEN SIGNIFICANT REDUCTIONS IN OVERALL GUNSHOT GUNSHOT RENEWALS WITHIN THE CITY OF GREENVILLE.

THIS TECHNOLOGY STANDS TO MAKE YOUR LIFE SAFER, TO MAKE YOUR FAMILY AND YOUR FRIENDS SAFE.

AND THE MAINLINE STORY IS THE COMMUNITY FEELING SUPER POSITIVE ABOUT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THAT FOREVER NEVER SHOWED UP WHEN THERE WERE INCIDENTS OF GUNFIRE THAT NOW ARE SHOWING UP AND THEY'RE SHOWING UP QUICKLY, PRECISELY, AND RESPECTFULLY BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SERVE THAT COMMUNITY.

SHOTSPOTTER IS COMMITTED TO BUILDING TRUST BETWEEN THE POLICE AND THE COMMUNITY IN THE MOMENT OF CRISIS.

DO YOU WANT TO WORRY IF THE POLICE ARE RESPONDING? LEARN MORE AT SOUND THINKING COM.

THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE FOR YOU.

SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE OPEN IT UP FOR ANY QUESTIONS.

ANYONE HERE? THANK YOU.

NO PROBLEM.

SO ONE QUESTION THAT I DO HAVE IS, COULD YOU BASICALLY TELL ME WHAT THE AVERAGE DECREASE OF GUN OF VIOLENCE DUE TO FIREARMS WOULD BE WITHIN THE CITIES THAT SHOTS FIRED IS ACTIVATED? THERE IS BARRY FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.

UM, ONE OF THE REASONS IS BECAUSE COMMUNITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE SO DIFFERENT, THEY LOOK SO DIFFERENT, RIGHT? SO A CHICAGO, THE VIOLENCE IN CHICAGO LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN THE VIOLENCE IN NEW YORK.

LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN THE VIOLENCE IN NEWBURN LOOKS DIFFERENT THAN THE VIOLENCE OF LOS ANGELES.

SO IT'S DIFFICULT FOR US TO, TO SHOW YOU THOSE AVERAGES.

UH, BUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THAT SHOT SPOTTER HAS BEEN USED AS A TOOL TO COLLECT MORE EVIDENCE, WHICH GENERALLY LEADS TO MORE ARRESTS OF THE FOLKS WHO ARE USUALLY, UH, COMMITTING THE GUN CRIME.

AND I'M SORRY, I CAN'T GIVE YOU LIKE A VERY SPECIFIC NUMBER.

WE DO HAVE A, A, A LINK ON OUR WEBSITE THAT SHOWS YOU THE RESULTS IN THE REDUCTIONS OF CRIMES, UH, THE REDUCTIONS OF GUN CRIME ACROSS THE COUNTRY, BUT ALSO THE INCREASES OF COLLECTING EVIDENCE IN ADDITION TO THE LIVES SAVED COMPARED TO WHAT IT LOOKED LIKE WHEN IT WAS JUST 9 1 1 CALLS.

AND IN ALL OF THOSE CASES, THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE IN PUBLIC SAFETY AND A DECREASE IN GUN VIOLENCE.

BUT AGAIN, SHOT SPOTTER IS NOT THE ONLY THING CONTRIBUTING, RIGHT? RIGHT.

THERE ARE OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO ARE WORKING, UH, WITH PREP MESSENGER PROGRAMS WHO ARE ACTIVELY TRYING TO INTERRUPT THAT VIOLENCE WHEN THEY KNOW SOMETHING IS ABOUT TO GO DOWN OR THEY KNOW JUST HAPPENED AND THEY'RE SEEING, THEY'RE GOING TO THE HOSPITAL TO TRY TO STOP FOLKS FROM RETALIATING.

THIS FITS INTO THAT OVERARCHING PUBLIC SAFETY GUN VIOLENCE REDUCTION STRATEGY.

UH, SO WE WON'T, WE WON'T EVER SAY THAT SHOT SPOTTER IS THE ONLY THING THAT WILL REDUCE GUN VIOLENCE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT IT ABSOLUTELY HELPS IN THOSE EFFORTS.

IF YOU DON'T MIND, I'D LIKE TO ADD ONE THING TO THAT AS WELL.

IT'S NOT JUST LIKE WERE SAYING THE NAME CHANGE FROM, UM, SHOTS SPOTTER TO SOUND THINKING.

AND LET ME REITERATE, SHOTS SPOTTER IS STILL THE PRODUCT THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY.

BUT EVEN THOUGH WE CAN'T NECESSARILY SAY GUN THAT VIOLENCE HAS GONE DOWN, IT COULD VERY WELL SAY THAT PEOPLE THAT COULD VERY WELL HAVE LED TO DEATH AT A SCENE

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MAY MAY HAVE SAVED THEIR LIVES, MAY MADE IT TO THE HOSPITAL IN TIME.

AND THOSE ARE HARD TO, HARD TO, UH, QUANTIFY.

TO QUANTIFY.

EXACTLY.

SO A CASE LIKE THAT, I THINK MORE LIVES CAN BE SAVED AND HOPEFULLY MORE CAN RESOLVE AS WELL.

I HOPE THAT IS.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

RESPONSE TIMES QUESTION RESPONSE TIME LY INCREASE.

SO THEY'RE NOT WAITING MINUTES, THEY'RE NOT WAITING, UH, IN SOME CASES HOURS FOR 9 1 1 CALL, THEY GET THE SHOTS BOTTLE UP WITHIN A MINUTE OF THE SHOT SPOT.

YOU.

I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.

UH, SO IT IS TO MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S NOT ONLY ABOUT THE TECHNOLOGY, BUT THE INDIVIDUALS BEHIND THE SCENES.

JUST A GREAT EXAMPLE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE CALL CENTER.

SO THAT SEND OUT .

UH, WHAT DEGREE OF TRAINING DOES AN INDIVIDUAL HAVE TO RECEIVE IN ORDER TO BE QUALIFIED WITHIN THAT, UH, CALL CENTER IN ORDER TO ACCURATELY DEPICT THE TYPE OF FIREARM, UH, THE FIREARM MECHANISM WITHIN THE FIREARM OR WHETHER THERE'S A FIREARM ITSELF? I I KNOW THEY'RE HIGHLY QUALIFIED ACOUSTIC ENGINEERS EXACTLY WHAT THE SCHOOLING IS INVOLVED THAT THE ANSWER TO GOTTA GET YOU SPECIFIC ON THAT.

BUT WE KNOW THAT THEY SIT IN THESE ROOMS FOR HOURS ON IT LISTENING TO THE SOUNDS OF GUNFIRE AND WATCHING THE WAVEFORM CONFIGURATIONS ON THE SCREEN IN FRONT OF THEM BEFORE THEY CAN EVEN, THEY HAVE TO PASS, UH, A TEST WITH 99% ACCURACY BEFORE THEY COULD BE HIRED.

AND A LOT OF THESE FOLKS DO COME FROM NINE ONE ONE CALL CENTERS.

THEY COME FROM POLICE DEPARTMENTS.

UM, THEY'RE JUST FINDING A DIFFERENT WAY TO CONTRIBUTE TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

UM, BUT THAT 99% NUMBER, AT LEAST I KNOW THAT AND I KNOW THAT THEY HAVE TO SIT FOR AT LEAST A WEEK, UH, AGAIN, DOING EXACTLY WHAT THEY WOULD BE DOING IN THIS POSITION, LISTENING TO THE GUNFIRE, WATCHING IT.

AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE LISTENING TO THINGS THAT HAVE ALREADY HAPPENED.

THEY'RE NOT LIKE TRAINING IN THE MOMENT.

UM, SO THEY'RE LISTENING TO WHAT WE'VE ALREADY CONFIRMED AND IF THEY PASS THAT TEST, THEN THEY CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH BECOMING AN EMPLOYEE.

UM, MY QUESTION IS, UM, SO HOW DO YOU IDENTIFY GUYS PUT, LIKE ARE THEY LIKE CAMERAS? UM, YOU, SO THE QUESTION WAS HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THE PEOPLE WHO SH WHO ACTUALLY SHOT THE GUN? AND, AND WE DON'T, WE DON'T IDENTIFY THOSE FOLKS.

WE CAN ONLY IDENTIFY THE LOCATIONS IN WHICH THE SHOTS WERE FIRED.

AND IF, YOU KNOW, THEY DECIDE THAT THERE ARE, IF THERE ARE CAMERAS IN THE AREA THAT WE INTEGRATE WITH, WE CAN, WE CAN SORT OF MAKE THAT HAPPEN IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE CAMERAS INTEGRATED WITH THE SHOT SPOTTER, UH, TECHNOLOGY, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY IDENTIFY SHOOTERS.

WE JUST IDENTIFY THE LOCATIONS.

TECHNOLOGY, GUNSHOT DETECTION, NOT THE GUN, NOT THE PERSON.

SO BASICALLY IT'S JUST A DEVICE TO TO IDENTIFY NOISE, IT DOESN'T SHOW FACES OR NO, NO, NO.

IT DOESN'T SHOW ANY FACES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

IT SHOWS YOU EXACTLY WHERE THE SHOTS HAVE BEEN FIRED.

UM, AND IT CAN AGAIN ALLOW, IT CAN DIRECT OFFICERS DIRECTLY TO THAT SCENE, THE GOOGLE MAPS, THE R MAPS, WHATEVER IT IS THAT THEY HAVE ON THEIR PHONE OR ON THEIR, IN THEIR CARS.

UM, AND IF THEY HAVE OTHER MEANS OF, OF SEEING WHAT HAPPENED IN THE AREA, THEN THEY WILL USE THOSE TOOLS.

BUT WE DON'T PROVIDE THOSE TOOLS.

AND THERE WAS ONE THING, ONE THING, OH, I WANTED TO SAY, AND I, WE GET IT NOW, BUT I'M GOING, YOU HAD A QUESTION.

CORRECT.

IN THE MEANTIME, WE DO ONLY HAVE AN 82 FOOT RADIUS WHERE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT GUN FIGHT HAS TAKEN PLACE.

SO THAT WILL GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HOPEFULLY GET THAT SUSPECT A WHOLE LOT QUICKER IF THEY WERE ON, OKAY.

SO THE QUESTION WAS REALLY ABOUT, UH, THE SPECIFIC SPECIFICITY OF THE LOCATION.

IF SHE LIVES AT A SPECIFIC ADDRESS AND SHE GOES OUTSIDE FIRES THAT GUN, ARE WE GONNA SEND THE COPS TO THE ADDRESS OR ARE WE GONNA SEND THE COPS TO THE AREA MORE? MORE OFTEN THAN NOT, WE'RE GONNA SEND THEM TO YOU THE ADDRESS, AND, AND WE DON'T, WE WON'T LIST THE EXACT ADDRESS.

WE'LL SEND THEM THE LA THE COORDINATES, THE LATITUDE, LONGITUDE COORDINATES, THAT'S EXACTLY WHERE THEY'LL GO.

AND BECAUSE THE SHOT WAS FIRED OUTSIDE IN, IN THE OPEN AREA, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SEND THEM TO ALMOST EXACTLY WHERE THAT SHOT WAS FIRED.

UM, AND IF IT'S IN THE BACKYARD, WE'LL SEND THEM TO THE BACKYARD.

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HOW EXACTLY THE, YOU HAVE TO HAVE, UH, PERMISSION FROM THE COMMUNITY SET UP.

UH, HOW WOULD THAT AREA, WHAT DID THE ANOTHER EXCELLENT, ANOTHER EXCELLENT QUESTION.

THOUGHT EVERYBODY HEARD WHAT THE QUESTION ONE, BUT WONDERING IF THERE'S PERMISSIONS TO WHERE THE SENSORS ARE PLACED.

SO HOW WORKS IS IF BASED ON A ONE SQUARE MILE OF COVERAGE, WHICH IS KIND OF TYPICAL.

SO WHAT WE DO IS WE'LL PLACE APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 25 SENSORS AROUND THAT ONE SQUARE MILE.

AND THOSE ARE, THAT'S PLACED BY OUR ENGINE.

OUR ENGINEERS DECIDE WHERE THE BEST PLACE GOES TO GET THE BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK, IF YOU WILL.

BUT ALSO WE DO ASK THEM, WE DO HAVE TO GET PERMISSIONS ON TOP OF GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, HOSPITALS, SCHOOLS, UM, LIGHT LIGHTS, STOPLIGHTS, FOR EXAMPLE.

WE DO HAVE TO GET PERMISSIONS AS WELL, NOT NECESSARILY FOR EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY.

WHERE, WHERE EXACTLY THE ESSENTIALLY PLACE YOUR QUESTION WAS THE RADIUS, IS THAT WHERE THE SENSORS OF THE PLACE OR HOW FAR OUT OF A COMMUNITY JUST FOCUS ON ONE DIFFERENT AREA? OKAY, I THINK, I THINK I UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION.

SO WHAT, WHAT WE'LL DO IS WHERE WE WORK WITH THE CITY TO FIND OUT BASED ON A LOT OF DATA FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS WHERE THE MOST GUN CRIMES HAVE TAKEN PLACE.

SO BASED ON THAT DATA, WE'LL COME UP WITH OUR ENGINEERS IN THE CITY TO FIND OUT WHERE THE BEST PLACE THAT SQUARE MILE.

TYPICALLY, LIKE I SAID, ONE SQUARE MILE AND THAT'S WHERE IT WORKS BEST.

WITH ONE SQUARE MILE, YOU REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO LESS THAN THAT IN ORDER FOR THE CENTERS TO WORK BEST.

SO THE CENTERS, LIKE I SAID, APPROXIMATELY 20 TO 25 CENTERS ARE PLACED AROUND THE CITY AROUND THAT ONE SQUARE HIGHER.

IF WE NEED MORE, WE'LL PLACE MORE.

WHOEVER'S NEEDED.

YEAH, THEY WON'T REACH OUT.

DEPENDS WHERE THAT COVERAGE AREA IS.

SO TYPICALLY WE START WITH THE ONE SQUARE MILE WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE GUN FIRE HAS BEEN.

UM, WHERE'S BEEN TAKING PLACE BASED ON THE DATA THAT CORRECT THE ARE PLACED WITHIN A SQUARE MILE WHERE THERE'S THE MOST GUN VIOLENCE SHOWED.

SO WOULD THAT BE, WOULD THAT BE A COMMUNITY DECISION OR IT'S A DATA AND COMMUNITY DECISION.

SO WE DON'T STOP AT A SQUARE MILE DEPENDING ON HOW MANY A SQUARE MILES ARE NECESSARY TO COVER THE AREA.

THAT REALLY IS SORT OF A, A COLLECTIVE DECISION I THINK BETWEEN THE, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE DATA THAT THEY'RE SEEING HISTORICALLY.

UH, AND, AND WHAT THEY FORWARD TO BE HONEST.

SO IT'LL, IT'S SEEING THAT THEY'LL WORK FIGURE OUT, OKAY, THIS IS SQUARE MILE, BUT IT WON'T NECESSARILY JUST BE LIKE ONE, ONE BOX, RIGHT? WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BORDERS ARE BASED ON TOPOGRAPHY, BASED ON ELEVATION, UH, BASED ON AMBIENT NOISE AND, AND TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, AND ALSO FIGURING OUT EXACTLY WHERE ISSUING HAS BEEN HAPPENING HISTORICALLY AND WHEN AND HOW DO WE BETTER RESPOND TO THOSE AREAS THAT WE KNOW THAT FIRE IS HAPPENING IN MOST WE'VE SEEN IN SOME CITIES IS IT'S WORKING SO WELL IN ONE AREA, OKAY, WE, WE NOW HAVE PROOF THAT IT WORKS.

SO WE'RE GONNA EXPAND TO OTHER AREAS THAT, THAT ARE SUFFERING ALMOST AS MUCH AS THESE AREAS WERE REPORTED.

I LIKE TO SAY I THINK IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR ALL OF US IN OUR COMMUNITY.

IT, IT MAY SAVE SOME LIVES FROM WHO STILL GONNA GET A SHOT, BUT IT MAKES IT MUCH MORE SAFER TO BE IN WHAT I KNOW IS GOING ON EVERY TIME GO AROUND STUFF OUTDOORS LATE AT NIGHT, ALL YOU HEAR IS GUN, WE WANT TO START SHOOTING BACK BECAUSE THEY AT ME.

THE BETTER THAT WE GO ALONG WITH SYSTEM SUCH AS THIS, THE POINT, IT'S NOT GONNA STOP THE ONES THAT WE KNOW GONNA CARRY, CARRY WEAPONS.

IT'S NOT GONNA STOP EVERYBODY TO MAKE IT SAFE FOR YOU.

AND THEN YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT CALLING ANYBODY.

SOMEBODY'S COMING.

SO I THINK IT'S DO GET GOING WHERE THE MAIN BASE WE TALK ABOUT LIKE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THEY GOT LITTLE AREA, WE GOT THE AREA FOR THE

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CAMERAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BUT WHERE Y'ALL, THE COMPANY AND OUR EMPLOYEES.

SO, SO ESSENTIALLY THE ALERTS, THE SENSORS PICK UP THE ALERTS AND THE ALERTS ARE SENT TO OUR INCIDENT REVIEW CENTERS.

WE HAVE ONE ON EACH POST OF THE COUNTRY.

THEY ARE THE ONES WHO THEN SEND THE ALERTS TO LAW ENFORCEMENT.

THEY'RE SITTING IN FRONT OF OF COMPUTERS AND LOOKING AND HEARING THE SOUNDS AND LISTENING.

WE ALSO HAVE WHAT WE CALL CUSTOMER SUCCESS DIRECTOR, SOMEONE WHO'S WORKING ACTIVELY WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO MAKE, TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE USING THE TECHNOLOGY THE BEST WAY THAT THEY CAN.

SO WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE EMPLOYEE, OUR OWN EMPLOYEES STATIONED HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT WE HAVE SOMEONE WHO WILL COME OUT AND HE, HE OR SHE WILL WORK IN THIS COMMUNITY IN ADDITION TO OTHER SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE IT.

UH, JUST AGAIN TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE USING THE TECHNOLOGY THE BEST WAY THEY CAN.

BUT THE FOLKS WHO ARE GONNA BE THE, THE MAIN USERS ARE GONNA BE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

THE TECHNOLOGY, THE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU'RE USING, WHAT IS THE BEST YOU GUYS EXPERIENCE? IT DOES, IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU'RE AT.

AND THAT'S, YOU SORT OF ANSWERING THAT QUESTION ON YOURSELF.

IT DEPENDS ON WHERE YOU ARE.

IT DEPENDS ON HOW WIDESPREAD THE VIOLENCE IS, BUT IT ALSO DEPENDS ON HOW EFFECTIVE WE THINK THAT THE TECHNOLOGY'S GONNA BE IN THAT AREA.

JUST TALKING TO THE SHERIFF EARLIER WHO'S TALKING ABOUT AN AREA LIKE WHERE WE CAN'T USE SHOPIFY RIGHT HERE BECAUSE THE HOUSES ARE SO FAR SPREAD APART, THERE'S REALLY NO FENCES, RIGHT? SO USUALLY IT'S BETTER WITHIN MORE DENSE AREAS, UM, BECAUSE YOU SORT OF KNOW EXACTLY WHERE YOU ARE PLACING THE SENSORS AND THE SENSORS WON'T BE TOO FAR APART.

AND AGAIN, WE START AT A SQUARE MILE AND IF IT'S DETERMINED THAT THERE BE MORE THAN A SQUARE MILE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

AND UH, I'M SORRY.

THERE ARE CERTAIN CITIES WHERE WE'LL START WITH MORE THAN A SQUARE MILE CAMPUS BET.

IT'S ALL ALWAYS DEPENDING ON WHAT, WHAT NEEDS AFFORD, BUT ALSO WAS NEEDED WITHIN.

YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY.

OKAY.

FIRST OF ALL, SO HOW MUCH PERCENTAGE, HOW MANY PEOPLE IN THAT AREA CAN SAY YES OR NO BEFORE IT WOULD ACTUALLY BE ALLOWED TO BE ABLE TO PUT INTO THE, WHEN YOU SAY YES OR YOU MEAN A SPOT OR YES OR NO, HAVING A SENSOR PLACE YES OR NO TO SPOT TO THE PROGRAM TOGETHER? SO SAY YOU GOT A HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THAT AREA AND I'M GONNA SAY 40% OF THEM SAY, WELL I DON'T WANT THIS.

SO WHAT, WELL, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH, WITH YOUR CITY OFFICIALS, POLICE DEPARTMENT AND YOUR CITY COUNCIL.

SO YOU WOULD ADVOCATE AGAINST HAVING SHOTS FIRED IN IN THAT AREA.

SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A SPECIFIC NUMBER.

I THINK IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GONNA SWAY BASED ON WHAT MOVES THEM.

UM, WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS IN MOST COMMUNITIES THE ADVOCACY IS FOR CONNOR AND, AND NOT AGAINST IT.

BUT I MEAN I DON'T, I CAN'T REALLY SPECIFICALLY SAY THAT THERE'S NUMBER TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.

ONCE IT GETS TO US, IT'S ALREADY APPROVED.

SO NOW MY OTHER QUESTION IS LIKE WITH THE, THE ELECTRICAL CITY HAD IN NEW, SAY IT AGAIN, THE ELECTRIC.

SO THE CITY, SO THE WAY THE MEALS WORK IS THEY READ FROM EACH OTHER.

SO IT'S LIKE, SO IS THAT THE SAME WAY? PRETTY MUCH SAID THIS.

SO ESSENTIALLY THE SENSORS WILL TRI WITH EACH OTHER, RIGHT? AND THE GUNSHOT HAS TO BE PICKED UP BY AT LEAST THREE SENSORS BEFORE AN ALERT IS SET.

UM, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE BEST WAYS ALSO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT IT'S GUNSHOT.

BECAUSE WHEN A GUN ISIR THAT SOUND, IT GOES AND USUALLY IN ONE DIRECTION.

SO AS LONG AS IT'S BEING PICKED UP BY THE SENSORS IN THAT AREA AND WITH AT LEAST THREE OF THEM, WE'LL NOTIFY, UM, WE'LL NOTIFY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT OF OF THAT.

SO IT WORKS, I THINK, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENTLY THAN WHAT YOU ARE SEEING OR TALKING ABOUT WITH THE ELECTRIC METERS, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS AND THAT'S HOW IT TAKES UP THE SOUND.

OKAY.

AND I'M SAYING THAT BECAUSE THAT, I KNOW AS FAR AS WITH S SOMEBODY STILL USING FROM ONE PLACE AND PUT IT OVER HERE, BUT AS LONG AS THERE'S SOME KIND OF SENSOR UP IN THE AIR, IT'LL BE ABLE TO HOP AND PICK UP.

SO PRETTY

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MUCH THAT'S PRETTY MUCH WHAT YOUR SYSTEM ALSO IS GOING WITH, SEEING HOW YOU'LL BEING ABLE TO CONNECT HERE.

SO THAT'S PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING? I THINK SO.

I THINK SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE IF I'M, SO YEAH, I HAVEN'T HEARD THAT COMPARISON BEFORE, SO I'M TRYING TO ACTIVELY MAKE SURE THAT I'M CONFIRMING THAT.

BUT THERE ARE SENSORS WILL THAT WILL BE PLACED, UM, WITHIN AT LEAST ONE SQUARE MILE.

UM, AND, AND AS FAR APART AS NECESSARY OR AS CLOSE AS NECESSARY, AGAIN, BASED ON THE TOPOGRAPHY AND THE AMBIENT NOISE IN THE AREA.

UH, AND BASED ON WHERE THEY THINK IT'LL BE MOST EFFECTIVE, UH, AND WHEN THEY GOT EXPIRED, AGAIN, MINIMUM OF THREE SENSORS PICK UP THAT GUNSHOT BEFORE IT GETS SENT TO THE INCIDENT REVIEW CENTER BEFORE SENT TO THE POLICE.

UM, AND THAT'S, THAT'S HOW IT WORKS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

UM, UH, RIGHT, THEY SAY FIRST TIME BEFORE SHOTS FIRED.

OKAY, SO, BUT AT END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ARY TRANSPORT VILLE AND THIS, AND I KNOW YOU'RE HERE TO GIVE THE PUBLIC SOME INFORMATION, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY IT'LL STILL BE THE OFFICIALS DECISIONS ON WHAT ABSOLUTELY DID HEARD THAT THE, EVERYBODY HEAR MOSTLY, MOST OF THE SHOOTINGS THAT HAPPEN AROUND LIKE TALKING FROM PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, RIGHT? SO IF THEY'RE SHOOTING, WILL THE SHOT SPOTTER GET DETECT THEIR MOVEMENT WHEN THEY'RE SHOOTING SHOT SPOTTER DOES PICK UP THE MOVEMENT OF THE GUN FIRE.

SO IF THERE ARE, THERE'S A SHOOTING OF GOING DOWN THE ROAD THAT ALL BE PICKED UP, IT BE TIMESTAMP.

SO YOU'LL KNOW WHERE THAT FIRST HIT SHOT HAPPENED.

AND AS WILL ALL BE TIMESTAMPED, YOU'LL KNOW EXACTLY IT ALSO AN AUTOMATED AUTOMATIC WEAPONS OR NOT WAS MORE THAN ONE SHOOTER.

WHAT'S IT TO THE, I THINK THE FIRST WHAT YOU MADE SHOOTINGS COMING FROM OUTSIDE THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO TELL WHETHER OR NOT THEY LEFT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.

WE WON'T BE ABLE TO TRACK THEM AFTER THEY STOP SHOOTING.

WE'LL ONLY BE ABLE TO TRACK THE SHOTS FIRED.

SO ONLY THE SHOTS FIRED.

SO AGAIN, IF THEY'RE DRIVING AND THEY'RE SHOOTING WHILE THEY'RE DRIVING, WE CAN, WE CAN IDENTIFY THE SPEED AT WHICH THE CAR IS MOVING SO THAT THEY CAN SEE WHETHER THAT PERSON IS WALKING, RUNNING OR DRIVING.

USUALLY DEPENDING ON THE MILES PER HOUR.

60 SECONDS.

60 SECONDS FROM WHEN THE SHOTS ARE FIRED TO WHEN THEY GET, YES.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE, OH SEE I READ, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I'M UNDERSTANDING YOU RIGHT.

SO WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING IS YOU ALL USE SCIENCE THINGS LIKE SOUND WORDS, THE TECHNOLOGY OF THE SENSORS IN ORDER FOR THEM TO NOT REALLY IDENTIFY A PERSON BUT IDENTIFY A LOCATION THAT WILL AND YOUR TECHNOLOGY WILL GET THE POLICE THERE FASTER AND HELP THEM TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY, UM, AND TAG RIGHT EVIDENCE THAT COULD HELP THEM TO SOLVE WHAT JUST HAPPENED, RIGHT? WHICH THEN MEANS THINGS LIKE US LOSING LITTLE CHILDREN IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING AFRAID TO SPEAK.

THIS IS A WAY TO PROTECT US BECAUSE WE ARE NOT IN THE MIDDLE OF IT, BUT IT PROVIDES US SOME OVERSIGHT TO BE ABLE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFE WITHOUT FEELING LIKE WE SNITCH.

OKAY, THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE, WE SAY IS TIME IS ISSUED, RIGHT? SO NOT ONLY DOES IT HELP PROTECT COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT WE'RE GETTING TO POTENTIAL GUNSHOT VICTIMS FASTER TO POTENTIALLY SAVE THEIR LIVES OR GETTING TO THE HOSPITAL QUICKER AS WELL.

YOU PROBABLY ALREADY ANSWERED THIS QUESTION, I WAS LATE, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, HAVE YOU STUDIED THIS PROGRAM IN ANOTHER STATE OR ANOTHER CITY AND WHAT WAS YOUR ? ALRIGHT, HAVE YOU TRIED THIS IN ANOTHER CITY? AND IF SO, WHAT WAS YOUR PROGRESS AND WHAT WAS YOUR PERCENTAGE

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OF, UH, BLACK GREATNESS DOING, SOLVING THE PROBLEM? AND UM, SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW.

YOU'VE BEEN, YOU'VE BEEN DOING THIS FOR 27 OVER 27 YEARS.

I THIS TECHNOLOGY, UM, 50 CITIES IN MANY OF THE LARGEST CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

CLOSE.

SO IT'S WORKING CITIES AND TOWNS.

THAT NUMBER NO, I DON'T, UH, WE, I'M GONNA BRING UP A PAGE PRETTY SOON BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE A LOT OF FOLKS ARE CONCERNED ABOUT THE ACTUAL NUMBERS.

I THINK IT'S SHOTS SPOTTER COM SLASH RESULTS, SOMETHING.

SEE THE DECREASES IN, UH, OR THE INCREASES IN EVIDENCE COLLECTION INCREASES THE FIVE STATE.

IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU GUYS PUT A HIGH ENOUGH UP.

IT'S HARD TO DO IT POSSIBLE.

SO IF SOMEBODY ACTUALLY DESTROYS ONE, Y'ALL SHOOTS IT OUT OR IT UP OR WHATEVER HE DOES, I GUESS.

WELL WE, WE, I'M NOT SURE IF WE'LL ALWAYS BE ABLE TO CATCH THE PERSON DOING IT, BUT YES, WE DO GET NOTIFIED THAT THE SENSOR IS NOT FUNCTIONING FOR ANY REASON WHATSOEVER.

WE'LL NOTIFY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT RIGHT AWAY AND WE'LL HAVE AN ENGINEER COME OUT TO REPLACE OR FIX IT OR POTENTIALLY FIND A NEW LOCATION WHERE IT WON'T GET, UH, DESTROYED.

I WAS TRYING NOT TO ASK, BUT, UH, I'M GONNA ASK THIS ANYWAY, PROBABLY ONE THAT I SHOULD ASK THE CHIEF, UH, LATER, BUT I, I WOULD SAY, MA'AM, MY, MY CONCERN OF THIS, IF IT'S IN A CERTAIN AREA, BECAUSE I SEEN IT WITH DRUGS AND ANY OTHER THING, IF IT'S IN ONE AREA OR DO THE PUBLIC, WILL THE PUBLIC KNOW WHERE THOSE LOCATIONS ARE, UH, WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SET THOSE THINGS? BECAUSE IN MY MY MIND, I DON'T THINK THEY, THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW.

UH, BECAUSE IF I KNOW UP THERE, I'M GONNA GO TO THE NEXT PLACE THAT THAT'S IN MY MIND.

UH, 'CAUSE I'VE SEEN IT DRUGS MOVE FROM ONE AREA ALL THE WAY TO BROAD STREET.

THEN WHEN YOU LEAVE THAT AREA ALONE, JUST GO RIGHT BACK THAT PLACE.

SO THAT, THAT'S MY CONCERN ABOUT THE AMOUNT OF MONEY SPENT.

SO IF, IF IT'S DONE, YOU, YOU ALMOST SAID LIKE IT'S A DONE DEAL ONCE IT GET YARD YOU OWE AS FAR AS THE SPOT COMING IN ANYWHERE.

OKAY.

I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID.

I SAID ONCE WE ARE BROUGHT INTO IT, TYPICALLY THE DEAL DECISION HAS BEEN MADE.

AND I'M TALKING ABOUT A CONTRACT RIGHT NOW.

I GOT YOU.

WE ARE JUST DISCUSSING CONTRACT.

I GOT YOU.

BUT THAT, THAT'S MY MAIN, MAIN THING IS NOT HAVE IT, IT'S NOT BRING IT NOT TO HAVE IT COME IN UHHUH, BUT I'M THINKING MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU BRING STUFF IN LIKE THAT, IT'S LIKE A, A ADVISORY TO THE PUBLIC.

SOMETIMES IT GETS TO THE NEWS OR WHATEVER, BUT I'M THINKING IF I KNOW WHERE IT IS, I'M NOT GONNA BE AROUND IT.

RIGHT.

I'M NOT GONNA DO MY THIRD ROUND ON WHERE I KNOW IT IS.

SO MY THING IS, IF THE CITY HAS IT TO BETTER THE COMMUNITY OR OR TO PROTECT OR SAVE THE COMMUNITY, I DON'T THINK THE PUBLIC SHOULD KNOW THE WHERE IT IS BECAUSE IT'S NOT, IT'LL BE MONEY SPENT, BUT IT, IT'S NOT A BOARD, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S NO GOOD.

IF I KNOW WHERE IT IS, I'M NOT GONNA BE THERE.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S A GREAT POINT.

NO ONE WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THE SENSORS ARE.

NOT EVEN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

WE KEEP THOSE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS CONFIDENTIALLY, HOWEVER THEY KNOW THAT THE GENERAL AREA, THEY DON'T KNOW EXACTLY.

THEY'LL SORT OF HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE THE BORDERS ARE.

AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY.

'CAUSE IN MANY CASES, COMMUNITY MEMBERS DO WANT TO KNOW THAT THERE'S AN EXTRA TOOL, YOU KNOW, HELPING THEM IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, BUT ALSO LIKE IF I'M A, I'M A SHOOTER, ISN'T IT BETTER FOR ME TO, TO NOT BE IN THAT AREA? I, I THINK, RIGHT? I DON'T THINK SHOOTINGS ARE ALWAYS DETERMINED BY WHERE SHOT SPOTTER LIKE IS SOMETIMES IT'S ABSOLUTELY, I MENTIONED THAT EARLIER, BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN YOU GET THESE TIPPER TATS, IF YOU GETTING THESE BACK AND FORTH, IT'S JUST GONNA HAPPEN WHERE IT HAPPENS.

UM, SO THAT'S SORT OF PART OF THE IDEA.

YOU'RE RIGHT, WE'RE NOT GONNA RELEASE THE EXACT SENSOR LOCATIONS TO ANYONE.

UM, BUT WE TRY TO INFORM THE COMMUNITY OF, YOU KNOW, THE GENERAL AREAS OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE, THANK YOU ALL FOR COMING OUT, UM, THIS EVENING.

WHAT

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YOUR CONCERNS AND ASK QUESTIONS.

UM, I'M GONNA ASK, I'M GONNA QUESTIONS OUT HERE THAT WAS GIVEN TO ME BY SOME OF MY, UH, CONSTITUENTS AND, UM, ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS THAT I RECEIVED WAS THAT, AND YOU KIND OF ALLUDED TO IT SOMEWHAT, UM, IN YOUR PRESENTATION FROM THE BEGINNING, THAT THEY WERE AFRAID OF THE SYSTEM BEING PUT IN PLACE BY THE CITY BECAUSE THEY WERE AFRAID THAT IF A SHOT IS FIRED IN AN AREA, POLICE POLICES COME TO THAT AREA.

UM, AND JUST SAY FOR INSTANCE, THEY'RE A TEENAGE CHILD OR TWO OR THREE TEENAGERS TOGETHER, OR YOUNG ADULTS TOGETHER AND THE POLICE WAS GOING TO HARASS THOSE CITIZENS AND THEY'RE INNOCENT CITIZENS.

AND THAT WAS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAIN QUESTIONS THAT WAS ASKED TO ME.

SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I ABSOLUTELY, AND I I I APPRECIATE YOU ASKING THAT.

'CAUSE THAT IS A CONCERN IN MANY COMMUNITIES, RIGHT? AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE PRIDE OURSELVES ON IS BEING ABLE TO WORK WITH THE POLICE DEPARTMENTS TO DEVISE A POLICY AND HOW EXACTLY THEY'RE GOING TO RESPOND TO SHOOTINGS.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND, AND AND YES, ON RARE INSTANCES WE HAVE CAUGHT SUSPECTS IN THE, IN THE MOMENT IN THE ACT, BUT THE VAST MAJORITY OF CASES, THE SUSPECT IS ALREADY GONE.

RIGHT? SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT FIRST PRIORITY IS SAVING A LIFE IF SOMEONE IS BLEEDING OUT.

SECOND PRIORITY IS, IS COLLECTING EVIDENCE IF THERE'S EVIDENCE OF THE CASE.

UM, AND IF OF COURSE, IF YOU ARE IN THE MOMENT AND YOU SEE A SUSPECT STILL SHOOTING, LIKE THAT'S WHEN YOU MOVE FORWARD ON THAT PERSON.

BUT IF NO ONE IS SHOWING ANY SIGNS OF BEING ACTUALLY INVOLVED IN THE SHOOTING, I MEAN MOST MULTIPLE CASES, LIKE PEOPLE WON'T ACTUALLY STAY IN THE, IN THE EXACT AREA IF THEY'RE DONE.

SO YOU'RE, WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY ASK TO SEE IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON, ON HOW YOUR RE WHAT YOUR RESPONSE WOULD LOOK LIKE IN, IN A SHOOTING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

SURE.

SO I, I THINK IT'S A GREAT QUESTION, ALDERMAN.

UM, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY IS REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT SHOTS BODY IS HERE OR NOT, OUR DEPLOYMENT STRATEGY IS BASED ON THE FOURTH AMENDMENT, BASED ON REASONABLE SUSPICION AND PROBABLE CAUSE.

SO WE READY TO RESPOND TO SHOTS FIRED.

WHEN WE WERE IN THE AREA THE DAY BEFORE, I ACTUALLY GAVE THE PRESENTATION BEFORE THE COURT OF ALDERMAN, WE HAD ARRESTED A 14 YEAR OLD THAT HAD AN AUTOMATIC WEAPON WHO WAS FIRING THAT.

SO WHEN WE RESPOND, WE'RE VERY WELL TRAINED IN TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHO THE REASONABLE, WHAT REASONABLE SUSPICION.

WE HAVE TO STOP ANYONE.

AND IF WE DON'T HAVE THAT, WE'RE NOT GOING TO STOP ANYONE.

SO I I, I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO BELIEVE THAT ALL BY SUDDEN SHOTS SPOTTER SHOWS UP AND NOW WE HAVE A DIFFERENT DEPLOYMENT STRATEGY.

IT IS, IT'S THE SAME ONE WE'VE ALWAYS HAD.

THIS JUST GIVES US AN ADDITIONAL ABILITY TO BE ON SCENE QUICKER AND FASTER.

A COUPLE OTHER THINGS THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD, BUT I DON'T THINK MAYBE YOU DIDN'T, THE DOTS WERE NOT CONNECTED.

WHEN FIREARMS ARE BEING USED, THERE IS EVIDENCE THAT'S LEFT BEHIND BY WAY OF SHELL CASINGS.

WE CAN LINK A SHELL CASING TO A SPECIFIC FIREARM AND WE UTILIZE A PRODUCT CALLED NIVAN, UM, WHICH WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH, UM, OTHER AGENCIES THAT ALLOW US TO IMPORT OUR BALLISTIC EVIDENCE INTO NIVAN SO THAT WE CAN TELL WHERE THAT BALLISTIC EVIDENCE CAME FROM.

WHAT GUN DID IT COME FROM? THERE'S ALSO GUNSHOT RESIDUE THAT'S LEFT BEHIND BY THE SHOOTER.

AND WE HAVE A CAPABILITIES OF IDENTIFYING DID THIS PERSON FIRE A GUN RECENTLY? SO ALL OF THESE INVESTIGATIVE STRATEGIES AND METHODS WE'RE ALREADY USING THIS IS JUST GONNA ADVANCE THAT.

AND I HOPE I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION.

UH, AND ANOTHER UM, UH, IT'S NOT A QUESTION OF STATEMENT TO YOU, I JUST WANT THE CITIZENS TO KNOW, 'CAUSE I'VE HAD THIS QUESTION ASKED TO ME AS WELL.

I WANT THE CITIZENS TO KNOW JUST BECAUSE THE SHOTS, IF THE SHOT SPOTTER IS APPROVED AND IT'S IMPLEMENTED THAT THAT'S NOT DONE TO STOP POLICE PRESENCE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS.

OKAY? THE POLICE IS GONNA STILL BE WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS MONITORING.

AM I CORRECT? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY CORRECT.

OKAY.

OUR DEPLOYMENT WILL NOT CHANGE.

OKAY.

WE WILL CONSISTENTLY BE IN THE PLACES THAT THE STATISTICS TELL US WHERE WE

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WHERE WE ARE.

NO, NOT WHERE THE STATISTICS OF THIS SHOT SPOT TELL YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE.

WHEN A SHOT IS FIRED, I'M TALKING ABOUT PERIOD PATROL PATROLLING EVERY DAY.

IT'S NOT GONNA STOP PATROLLING THE POLICE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY.

I JUST WANT THE CITIZENS TO KNOW THIS AND THAT'S WHY I DIRECT IT TO YOU LIKE THAT.

'CAUSE YOU ARE THE CHIEF.

AND, AND, AND ONE THING THAT I THINK THAT THIS TECHNOLOGY ALONG WITH POLICE PATROLLING IS GOING TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY SAFER.

I, I, I'LL BE, UM, HONEST ABOUT THIS AT FIRST, I, I HAD SOME RESERVATIONS ABOUT IT AND I HEARD YOUR PRESENTATION GIVEN TO, TO THE BOARD OF .

AND FOR THIS TO BE, UH, ANOTHER SOURCE PUT IN PLACE TO HELP OUR CITIZENS, TO KEEP OUR CITIZENS SAFE GIVEN OPPORTUNITIES, I'M ALL FOR IT.

NOW, I WOULD LIKE TO CHIEF, AND I KNOW THIS IS GETTING OFF TOP OF HERE, AND I'M NOT GONNA SAY ANYTHING ELSE OUT THERE, CHIEF.

I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE POLICE PRESENCE IN THE COMMUNITIES.

IF THERE, WHAT HAPPENED TO THE MOTORCYCLES? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE FOOT PATROL? WHAT HAPPENED TO THE, THE, THE POLICE ACTUALLY STOPPING AND TALKING TO CITIZENS, GETTING ENGAGING WITH CITIZENS AND GETTING THE CITIZENS INVOLVED.

I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THAT AND I THINK THAT WOULD DETER A LOT OF CRIME AS WELL.

SO I DON'T WANT MY LAST STATEMENT TO BE MISCONSTRUED.

WE HAVE OFFICERS IN EVERY ONE OF OUR SIX COMMUNITY POLICING DISTRICTS ACROSS THE BOARD.

SO THEY'RE THERE REGARDLESS AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE CRIME RATE IS HIGH OR LOW.

PLACES LIKE CAROLINA, COLORS AND VEA AND THOSE PLACES, LOW CRIME RATE, WE STILL HAVE OFFICERS THERE.

WE STILL HAVE A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, A A, UH, A NEED TO BE PRESENT, UM, UH, UH, MANDATE AND, AND A MISSION.

WHAT I WANTED, WHAT I'M TRYING TO SAY IS, BEYOND HAVING OFFICERS IN EVERY COMMUNITY POLICING DISTRICT, WE BACKFILL WITH ADDITIONAL STAFF BASED ON NEED.

THAT'S WHY WE ARE EVIDENCE BASED IN INTELLIGENCE LED.

WE, WE ARE CONSTANTLY TRACKING ALL OF OUR DATA TO, TO GIVE US THE BEST INSIGHT AS TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE, UH, BASED ON THAT DATA.

SO DON'T ASSUME BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GET CALL TO SERVICE OR, OR, OR STAS LOW IN PARTICULAR.

THAT'S, THAT'S NOT THE CASE.

WE'RE WE'RE STILL THERE.

THANKS.

AND THE OTHER PART ABOUT THAT IS, UH, IN EVERY ONE OF OUR POLICING DISTRICTS, UM, WE HAVE A SUPERVISOR THAT'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.

AND WE DO TRACK THE NUMBER OF TIMES OUR OFFICERS ACTUALLY GET OUT OF THEIR CAR, DO WALKING PATROLS.

NOW, UH, UM, WE ARE LIKE ALMOST EVERY OTHER POLICE DEPARTMENT IN THE NATION, WE ARE STRUGGLING WITH TRYING TO MAINTAIN THE, UM, PATROL OR OUR SWORN STAFF.

WE, WE HAVE BEEN ROUGHLY 10% DOWN IN THE NUMBERS OF OFFICERS.

SO THE ABILITY TO ENGAGE IN MORE PROACTIVE STYLE OF POLICING IS A BIT OF A CHALLENGE.

BUT WE STILL TRACK THAT.

WE STILL DO THAT.

AND I WILL SAY OF ALL THE COMMUNITY POLICING DISTRICTS THAT WE TRACK, THE GREATEST NUMBER OF OF OFFICERS THAT ARE ENGAGED IN BIKE PATROL AND IN FOOT PATROLS ARE OCCURRING IN THIS COMMUNITY RIGHT HERE.

AND, UH, THAT'S WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THAT.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

UH, CHIEF, I LIKE TO SAY I'VE SEEN THE OFFICERS ON FOOT PATROL, I'VE SEEN THEM TALK TO THE KIDS.

I'VE SEEN THEM TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE GETTING OUT THEIR CAR IN FRONT.

SO I COMMEND THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING THAT.

THANK YOU.

AND THE, AT OUR LAST MEETING WITH THE OFFICERS TALKING TO US ABOUT THAT.

AND SO, I MEAN, THERE REALLY IS A PRESENCE HAPPEN.

QUESTION.

I HEARD A WONDERFUL THING ABOUT SPOT, UH, SHOT.

UH, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEGATIVES? EVERYTHING HAS SOME NEGATIVE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE NEGATIVES THAT COME ALONG THIS WONDERFUL PROGRAM? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.

UH, I DON'T WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, MAKE SURE WE COME HERE, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS, UH, THAT I'VE, I'VE SEEN AT TIMES IS IT'S NOT BEING USED EFFECTIVELY.

IT'S NOT BEING USED IN THE RIGHT WAY.

THERE ARE A COUPLE OF, UH, COMMUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO CONSTANTLY GO BACK TO, CONSTANTLY GO BACK TO BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING THAT OFFICERS ARE NOT LOGGING IN.

THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY GOING

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TO WHERE SHOTS ARE BEING FIRED.

UH, AND THEY'RE NOT USING THE TECHNOLOGY EFFECTIVELY.

UM, SO IT REALLY IS ALSO INCUMBENT ON THE COMMUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT THE POLICE, YOU KNOW, ARE DOING THEIR JOBS, BUT IT'S ALSO UP RELATIONSHIPS, GUIDELINES, AND THE POLICIES THAT WE'VE SET FORTH, RIGHT? BECAUSE THERE'S NO POINT IN SPENDING THE MONEY FOR SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA USE, RIGHT? UM, SO THAT, THAT'S ONE OF THE, THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVES IS MAKING SURE THAT'S BEING USED EFFECTIVELY.

UM, ANOTHER NEGATIVE IS IT, IT TIMES IT CAN TAKE A WHILE TO ACTUALLY SET UP, BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE FOR PERMISSIONS, FOR THE SENSORS TO BE PLACED, YOU KNOW, EITHER IN ON THEIR BUSINESSES OR ON THEIR, UM, BUILDINGS, SOMETIMES THEY MAY GO BACK AND FORTH AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THEY ACTUALLY IS WANTED THERE.

RIGHT? SO THAT CAN EXTEND THE PERIOD INTO WHICH IT IS ACTUALLY DEPLOYED.

UM, BUT WE WON'T ACTUALLY START, UH, OUR IMPLEMENTATION UNTIL ALL THE SENSORS ARE SET UP IN THAT WAY.

YEAH.

CAN I, SO THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND, AND I, THIS SORT IS GONNA CUT IN TWO DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS.

ONE OF THE ISSUES FROM A NEGATIVE FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE IS COST.

I HAVE TO MAKE A COGENT AND REASONABLE, UM, ARGUMENT TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN THAT THE MONIES, AND IT'S JUST SOUTH OF $50,000 PER YEAR, UM, TO FUND THIS.

AND SO WITH EVERY DOLLAR SPENT IN ONE DIRECTION IS $1 NOT SPENT IN ANOTHER DIRECTION.

SO, UM, THAT IS PART OF WHAT I HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO WITH DATA.

I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TO SAY, JUST TRUST ME, I'M THE CHIEF.

JUST TRUST ME.

THIS IS A GOOD PROGRAM.

I HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PROVE IT'S A GOOD PROGRAM.

SO THE SWORD CUTTING IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION IS, UH, SHOTSPOTTER ACTUALLY IS GIVING UP A DISCOUNT.

IT'S LESS MONEY IN NEWBURN THAN WHAT THEY'RE PAYING FOR IN GREENVILLE.

AND THE REASON IS WE'RE A SMALLER MUNICIPALITY AND THEY RECOGNIZE THAT AND THEY TRY TO OFFSET SOME OF THESE COSTS.

ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT I INTEND ON DOING IS GOING TO SOME OF THE STAKEHOLDERS WITHIN OUR OWN COMMUNITY THAT HAVE A VESTED INTEREST IN THE REDUCTION IN VIOLENT CRIME AND TRYING TO GET THEM TO ASSIST US IN THE, UM, THE MANAGEMENT, UM, AND THE UM, THE PAYMENT OF THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO SAVE THEM A LOT OF MONEY AND IT IS ADVANTAGEOUS FOR THEM TO BECOME PARTNERS WITH US.

AND THERE'S A NUMBER OF STAKEHOLDERS IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN THAT, UH, I WILL BE GOING TO AND HOPING THAT THEY WOULD ASSIST US IN, UH, OFFSETTING THAT COST.

UH, SO YOU ALL DID STATE THAT SHOTS DRIVER WOULD BE ABLE TO COMMUNICATE WITH MEDICAL FACILITIES IN THE AREA AS WELL? UM, BEING WITH IN THE MEDICAL FIELD, SOMETIMES UH, COMMUNICATION, ESPECIALLY DEALING WITH GSWS CAN BE KIND OF OFFSET TO WHERE YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO TREAT THAT CERTAIN INJURY AT THAT CERTAIN TIME.

IS THERE ANY TYPE OF ALGORITHM WHERE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN FIRST RESPONDERS CAN POSSIBLY BE SHOWN IF IN THAT MOMENT FIRST RESPONDERS ARE NOT ABLE TO COMMUNICATE THROUGH RADIO OR ANYTHING ELSE DUE TO THE DANGERS BEING PROVIDED IN THAT SITUATION? THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY ASKING IF, IF FIRST RESPONDERS CAN ALSO GET LIKE THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT LAW ENFORCEMENT WOULD GET.

UH, AND I DON'T KNOW.

I BELIEVE THAT IN SOME PLACES THERE MAY BE AN AGREEMENT SET UP, BUT I'M NOT SURE WE, I THINK THE PERMISSIONS NEED TO BE GIVEN BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR WHAT I THINK THAT RIGHT.

WELL HERE'S THE THING.

EMS DOESN'T PATROL EMS IS, IS STATIONED AND THEY WAIT TO BE DISPATCHED, BUT POLICE OFFICERS DO PATROL AND UM, THE FIRST TASK WHEN WE ARRIVE ON THE SCENE IS RENDERING AID TO THE INJURED.

SO THAT INFORMATION IS RELAYED IMMEDIATELY TO DISPATCHER.

OUR DISPATCH DISPATCHES FOR EMS. SO THERE ISN'T A TRANSFERENCE OF INFORMATION FROM ONE DISPATCHER TO ANOTHER.

IT'S THE SAME DISPATCHER DISPATCHING THE EMS. AND SO THEY ARE RETRIEVING INFORMATION FROM THE FIRST RESPONDER, LE LAW ENFORCEMENT TO THE FIRST RESPONDER AND THE MEDICAL, UH, UM, PERSONNEL AS THEY COME IN.

SO THAT

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THERE IS A, UH, I WOULDN'T SAY SEEN LESS BUT LESS CONFUSING PROCESS TO GET, UH, MEDICAL PERSONNEL ON STAFF AND FOR THEM TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BE DEALING WITH UPON THEIR ARRIVAL.

QUESTION.

WE TALKED ABOUT 50 I THOUGHT WAS HIGHER THAN THAT, BUT ARE WE STILL GONNA GET A $50,000 SAVINGS FOR NEXT YEAR, THE FOLLOWING YEAR GO DOWN? SO THE INITIAL COST IS 69,800.

I MIGHT BE OFF BY HUNDRED OR TWO, BUT PART OF THAT IS THE TRANSITION BETWEEN OUR WRECKAGE MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, OUR CAD SYSTEM, AND THE UH, SHOP SPOTTER TECHNOLOGY THAT HAS TO BE BUILT IN SO THAT THEY TALK TO ONE ANOTHER.

BUT FOR SHOT SPOTTER, IT'S THE CONSISTENT PRICING.

I'M PRETTY SURE I GOT THAT RIGHT.

YES.

SO IT'S THE FIRST YEAR SHOP SPOTTER IS CHARGING US THE SAME AMOUNT, BUT WE HAVE TO PUT IN AN ADDITIONAL FUNDAGE FOR, UH, THE, UH, BUILTIN INFRASTRUCTURE THAT THEIR PROGRAM AND OUR CAT SYSTEM WILL WORK BETTER TOGETHER.

YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IF YOU DECIDE TO, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T NEED TO.

OKAY, SO MY QUESTION IS, ARE WE ACTUALLY GONNA BE LOCKED INTO A CONTRACT? SUPPOSE SOMETHING HAPPEN AND WE DON'T SEE BETWEEN THE POLICE AND THIS PROGRAM, WE ARE ACTUALLY WORKING FOR OUR COMMUNITY.

ARE WE ACTUALLY GONNA BE LOCKED INTO A CONTRACT? MANY, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, I THINK WE'RE LOOKING AT A THREE YEAR CONTRACT FOR THAT.

SO, BUT AFTER THE THREE YEARS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, WE'RE LOCKED INTO ANYTHING AFTER THAT SAY CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN PLEASE? YOU'RE NOT LOCKED INTO, I'M SORRY, YOUR HONOR.

UM, IF THIS IS APPROVED, IT IS FOR THREE YEAR CONTRACT AND AFTER THAT THERE'S NO LOCK TO THE CONTRACTOR.

WE CAN NEGOTIATE, I GUESS IT'S YEAR TO YEAR OR HOWEVER THAT'S GONNA GO.

YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO HEAR IT 'CAUSE I HEARD HER SAY RIGHT.

BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT WAS THE CONTRACT, NOT THE MONEY BECAUSE I STARTED RENTING THEN, BUT I GOT HAPPY, YOU KNOW, AFTER THREE YEARS.

I'M GLAD YOU GLAD YOU CONFIRMED THAT.

THAT'S, I I WISH THAT WAS THE CASE TOO.

I KNOW, I'M SORRY.

SO I I, UNLESS THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, I KNOW WE'VE GOT OH, WE HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.

OH, OKAY.

I JUST, THE ABILITY WITHIN THE AREA SQUARE, HOW LONG THAT, THAT ONE AREA, THAT'S ONE SQUARE LINE OF CONTRACT, EASILY DECIDE ONE 60 SQUARE MILE.

SO IT WOULD STAY THERE IF THEY DECIDE, DECIDE IF IT DECIDES ON ONE SQUARE MILE START OFF AND THEN THEY REALIZE WITHIN THAT CONTRACT, CONTRACT TIME THAT, YOU KNOW WHAT, HERE WE'RE NOT REALLY HAVING ANY ISSUES, ANY ISSUES, COULD WE MOVE IT OVER A LITTLE BIT? CAN'T, IF YOU SAY WE SIGNED AND NOW WE NEED TO GO AWAY, CHANGE EVERYTHING THEN UH, THIS PROGRAM, I HAVE A FRIEND IN RALEIGH AREA, GREENSBORO AND THIS PROGRAM IS UP THERE AND HE SAID THAT THE COMMUNITY THAT HE'S IN WAS A CRIME STATISTIC EVERY NIGHT THAT HAD SOMEBODY SHOT, KILLED OR MURDER.

HE SAID THAT THIS PROGRAM THAT THEY INSTALLED AND THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS VERY EXCELLENT AND IT HAS BEEN ON ABOUT THREE MONTHS WHILE Y'ALL, WHEN Y'ALL STARTED.

AND HE SAYS THAT CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CRIME RATE, BUT WHAT IT IS, THEY'RE RUNNING IT OUT OF NEWARK VICINITY AND THEN THEY'LL GO SOMEWHERE ELSE.

BUT HE SAID IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL THING TO HAVE.

SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THAT TOO.

THINK WHAT I DID THERE.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

ONE MORE QUESTION.

ONE MORE.

SO I SEEN ON YOUR SLIDES THAT YOU HAD UP THERE THAT YOU HAD GREENVILLE, NORTH CAROLINA UP THERE, RIGHT? RIGHT.

SO YOU JUST RECENTLY GOT INTO GREENVILLE,

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SO NO, THEY'VE BEEN THERE SEVEN YEARS, SEVERAL YEARS.

THEY'VE BEEN THERE FOR SEVEN YEARS.

SO HAS IT IMPROVED GREENVILLE? ALL WE GOT SOME SHOOTING THE CELL ON THE NEWS .

UNFORTUNATELY IT WON'T STOP.

WE CAN'T STOP PEOPLE, PEOPLE FROM SHOOTING.

HOPEFULLY IT'S DEFINITELY SAVED SOME LIVES AND PREVENT OR SUBSIDE SOME.

OKAY.

IT'S IN ALL MOST, BUT THE BIGGEST THING, THE BIGGEST THING YOU'RE TRYING TO, TRYING TO CONVEY TO THE THE COMMUNITY IS QUICKER RESPONSE.

WE'LL CUT A LOT OF STUFF OUT.

THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

SAVE LIVES.

YES.

ALRIGHT.

THAT'S IT.

CAN WE, CAN WE CLOSE THE QUESTIONS OUT ? NO.

ALRIGHT.

WELL I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT.

I WE CERTAINLY HOPE THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE YOU ENOUGH INFORMATION.

UH, I DO WANT TO, UM, WISH ALL THE VETERANS IN THE ROOM.

HAPPY VETERANS DAY.

IF YOU'RE A MARIE, HAPPY BIRTHDAY.

TOMORROW IS THE 225TH BIRTHDAY OF THE US MARINE CORPS.

SO HAPPY YOUR BIRTHDAY TO THE MARINES.

FOR THOSE OF US THAT ARE ARMY VETERANS, UM, WE'RE A WHOLE LOT OLDER THAN YORK.

THAT'S NONETHELESS.

SO HAPPY VETERANS DAY AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING EVERYBODY, UM, BACK IN THIS PLACE NEXT MONTH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.