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THANK YOU.[1. Call to order and Welcome]
CLOCK STRIKE SIX O'CLOCK.SO I'M GONNA CALL TO ORDER THIS REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE NEW ENGLAND REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
AND CAN WE GET STARTED, UM, SET WITH A WILL CALL? ABSOLUTELY.
AND NONE OF OUR PHYSIOS ARE CURRENTLY PRESENT.
[3. Approve the Agenda]
AND WE WILL GET STARTED WITH OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS APPROVING THE AGENDA.EVERYONE RECEIVED? I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYONE RECEIVED THEIR PACKETS VIA EMAIL.
IS THAT ACCEPTABLE WAY TO RECEIVE THEM? YES.
AND YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK OVER IT? I TRUST.
AND CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA? SO MOVED.
[4. Approval of Minutes (November, December, Closed Session October, November, December) ]
AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.NOW, I DO BELIEVE WE NEED TO APPROVE THE MINUTES ALL SEPARATELY.
IS THAT CORRECT? SO LONG AS THE, THE MOTION IS UNANIMOUS, YOU CAN DO THEM ALL TOGETHER.
SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS WE HAVE, UM, TWO SETS OF MINUTES IN OUR PACKET, THE NOVEMBER AND THE DECEMBER MEETING, AND THOSE MAY HAVE BEEN NEW TO YOU.
HOPE YOU HAD TIME TO REVIEW THOSE.
THE OTHER, THE CLOSED SESSION MINUTES, WE, UM, LOOKED AT AND CORRECTED AND SAID, WE HAVE CLOSED SESSION FOR OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, AND DECEMBER.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
AND ARE WE IN A PLACE, I THINK WE'RE IN A PLACE WHERE WE CAN JUST, IF THERE'S NO, UM, AMENDMENTS OR, UM, ANY CONTRADICTIONS, WE CAN APPROVE THEM.
UM, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ALL OF THESE SETS OF MEETINGS, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, AND OUR CLOSED SESSION FOR THOSE MONTHS AS WELL.
[5. Guiding Principles ]
WE WILL GO THROUGH OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.WE'LL START WITH YOU MR. STRICKLAND.
COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND LOST MY SPOT ON THE AGENDA.
LISTEN TO BILL CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION AND PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
STAY FOCUSED, BE ACTION ORIENTED.
BELIEVE, GET THE BEST ONE TONIGHT.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER MORGAN.
WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU
[6. Public Comments (limit of 4 minutes) ]
SO NOW WE, UM, ARE AT THE POINT IN THE AGENDA FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENTS.I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND, UM, WHOEVER'S SPEAKING TONIGHT THAT WE HAVE A LIMIT OF FOUR MINUTES, AND I HAVE, UM, A REQUEST UP HERE.
UM, MS. RUTH COOPER, DO YOU WANNA SPEAK? HI EVERYBODY.
I LIVE IN TRENT WOODS, BUT I'M A MEMBER OF THE DUFFY FIELD PHOENIX PROJECT.
AND, UH, THIS YEAR WE BOUGHT $400 WORTH OF SPRING BLOOMING BULBS, AND THIS FALL, SIX OF US PLANTED 200 DAFFODIL BULBS AND A HUNDRED GRAPE CENT BULBS IN A RAISED BED IN HENDERSON PARK NEAR CHAPMAN STREET.
NOW, CARRIE WARREN MET WITH US AND SAID WE COULD PLANT THEM IN THAT BED AND IT WOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH THE CITY'S MOWING OR ANYTHING.
WE GOT THE FERTILIZER AND BULBS PLANTED AND MULCHED IN A LITTLE OVER AN HOUR.
AND I ALSO PLANTED SOME BULBS IN SOME PEOPLE'S YARDS IN DUFFY FIELD.
IN MAY WHEN THESE FLOWERS ARE BLOOMING, WE'LL HAVE OUR SEMI-ANNUAL DUFFY FIELD CLEANUP.
IT'LL BE MAY 4TH, THE SAME DAY AS THE CRAVEN COUNTY CLEAN SWEEP.
WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE MORE NEIGHBORHOOD INVOLVEMENT AND GET A LOT DONE.
UM, YOU KNOW, LAST TIME, UM, THE, UH, UH, I FORGET HER NAME RIGHT NOW, I THINK IT'S PAM HOGANS FROM CLEAN SUITE BROUGHT SOME BOY SCOUTS.
THEY WERE VERY HELPFUL AND WE GAVE OUT, UH, A RAFFLE TICKET FOR EVERY BIG BAG OF LITTER YOU PICKED UP.
AND THEY COULD GET A CHANCE TO WIN LITTLE $5 WALMART
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GIFT CARDS.AND I BELIEVE ALL OF THE BOY SCOUTS WON GIFT CARDS.
SO, UM, WE'RE HOPING TO GET THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION INVOLVED IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE PART OF OUR LITTER PICKUP.
UM, I TALKED WITH BRENDA BLANCO ABOUT A VERY OVERGROWN AND HEAVILY LITTERED LOT OWNED BY THE CITY AND COUNTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF MAINE AND PAVY STREETS.
SHE EMAILED GEORGE CHILES ABOUT IT, AND A PUBLIC WORKS CREW CLEANED IT UP AND LEVELED IT THE NEXT DAY.
SO THAT LOT, WHICH WAS SO BADLY OVERGROWN, YOU COULDN'T EVEN GET ALL THE LITTER OUT.
BUT IT'S CLEARED OFF NOW AND IT'S FOR SALE IF ANYBODY, YOU KNOW, ANYBODY THAT WANTS THAT LOT RIGHT THERE ON MAIN AND PAVING.
UM, I'VE ALSO REPORTED OTHER WHEATY OVERGROWN LOTS AND THE NUISANCE ABATEMENT PEOPLE HAVE HAD THEM MOWED DOWN.
UM, BESIDES BEING AN ENVIRONMENTAL ADVOCATE, I'M AN RN AND HEALTH ADVOCATE AND, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I WAS AT YOUR LAST MEETING, BUT I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING LATELY ABOUT THE PROPOSED HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER TO BE BUILT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF MAINE AND BLOOMFIELD STREETS.
I'M SURE Y'ALL ARE WORKING ON IT, BUT I JUST HAVEN'T HEARD ABOUT IT.
UM, SO JUST THANKS FOR ALL THAT YOU DO, AND WE THANK YOU MS. COOPER FOR ALL THAT YOU DO.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THAT UPDATE AND, UM, WE LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THOSE BULBS COME UP IN MAY.
MAY I JUST NEED ASK MS. COOPER A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I JUST NEED TO GET HER INFORMATION BEFORE OH, SURE, SURE.
MAY I HAVE YOUR INFORMATION BEFORE YOU LEAVE? WE WILL BE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH YOU AND WE JUST NEED TO GET THOSE DATES.
WE'VE ALSO BEEN TALKING TO SOME FRATERNITIES AND SOME SORORITIES, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY CLEANUP.
WE'LL DISCUSS ALL OF THAT WHEN I SPEAK TO YOU, BUT PLEASE DON'T LEAVE WITHOUT ME GETTING YOUR INFORMATION.
[7. Consider amending construction time restrictions for West Street Property (Mr. and Mrs. C. Diggs) ]
NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, AND IT IS IN CONSIDERATION FOR AMENDING THE CONSTRUCTION TIME RESTRICTION FOR THE 2 0 9 BRIAN STREET PROPERTY.AND I BELIEVE WE HAVE MR. AND MRS. DIGGS HERE TONIGHT TO, UM, ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE.
OR DID YOU, DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO US? NO, JUST BE AVAILABLE FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS.
UM, I THINK EVERYBODY IS AWARE OF THIS FROM OUR LAST MEETING, THAT THIS IS A SITUATION WHERE JAMIE, I'M GONNA GET YOU TO HELP ME WITH THE APPROPRIATE TERMS, BUT THE CLAIM, THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO CLEAR THE TITLE YES.
SO IN YOUR DECEMBER MEETING THIS, UM, PROPERTY WAS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, UM, SEVERAL MONTHS AGO, UM, MR. DIGGS AND MR. CARLO, UM, WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS TO ACQUIRE THIS PROPERTY.
INCLUDED IN THAT CONVEYANCE WAS A RESTRICTIVE COVENANT FOR THEM TO COMMENCE THE CONSTRUCTION OF A, UM, RESIDENTIAL DWELLING STRUCTURE WITHIN A A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
UM, AND MR. DIGGS IS SHAKING HIS HEAD THAT I'M CORRECT IN THAT, UM, THEREAFTER, AS MR. DIGGS AND MR. CARLO DID THEIR DUE DILIGENCE TO CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY AND TRY TO GET TITLE INSURANCE TO PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT, THEY DETERMINED, THEIR COUNSEL DETERMINED THERE WAS A DEFECT IN TITLE.
UM, AND AS WE TALKED ABOUT LAST MONTH, THAT DEFECT IS NOT UNIQUE TO THE DIGS.
IT RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY THAT APPARENTLY IN THE FORECLOSURE PROCESS, AN ERROR WAS NOT NOTIFIED AND NOW THERE IS A POTENTIAL DEFECT IN THE TITLE IN ORDER FOR THE THE PURCHASER TO GET TITLE INSURANCE TO PROTECT THEIR INVESTMENT.
THAT DEFECT IN TITLE MUST BE REMEDIED.
STAFF HAS INCLUDED A MEMORANDUM DATED JANUARY 2ND IN YOUR PACKET THAT YOU HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT ANSWERS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT CAME OUT OF YOUR DIALOGUE AT YOUR LAST MEETING.
AND I, I THINK FROM MY CONVERSATION WITH MR. DIGGS AND THE INFORMATION INCLUDED IN THE MEMORANDUM, HIS REQUEST IS THAT YOU REMOVE THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANT, UM, REQUIRING HIM TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME DUE TO THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT IT WOULD TAKE TO, UM, GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO BE ABLE TO QUIET TITLE.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT HE'S CONSULTED WITH AND OR RETAINED AN ATTORNEY TO ASSIST HIM, UM, WHICH IS A SUBSTANTIAL FINANCIAL INVESTMENT ALREADY.
AND IT IS BEFORE YOU ALL TODAY TO CONSIDER REMOVING, UM, THAT RESTRICTION OR AMENDING THAT RESTRICTION.
AND OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE THIS IS A MATERIAL CHANGE IN THE CONVEYANCE, UM, ULTIMATELY WE WOULD NEED TO SEEK APPROVAL FROM THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AS WELL.
BUT THE FIRST STEP IS FOR YOU ALL TO EVALUATE MR. DIGS REQUEST, AND THERE IS A RESOLUTION TO THAT EFFECT INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET.
AND AFTER REVIEWING THIS INFORMATION, IT DOES SEEM LIKE THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME THAT THE DIGS ARE ASKING FOR IS BASED ON HOW MUCH LEGAL TIME IT WILL TAKE TO, TO DO THAT.
THERE IS A PERIOD OF TIME, UM, THAT THEY NEED TO WAIT TO EVEN BEGIN TO FILE THEIR ACTION.
AND THEN FOR THAT ACTION TO GO FROM START TO FINISH IS AN ADDIT ADDITIONAL INTERVAL OF TIME.
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SO THEY WILL STILL GO AHEAD AND CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY AFTER THE ALDERMAN AS INDICATED IN, I THINK THAT THE RESPONSE TO MR. UM, DIGGS RESPONDED TO THE MEMORANDUM.HIS PLAN IS TO BE ABLE, IF THE RESTRICTION IS REMOVED AND THE BOARD OF ALDER MEN AGAIN APPROVES THIS SALE WITHOUT THAT CONDITION, THEY ARE IN A POSITION TO CLOSE IMMEDIATELY, IS WHAT I'M BEING TOLD.
AND MR. DIGS IS SHAKING HIS HEAD IN THE AFFIRMATIVE.
YOU CAN COMBINE YES, WE, WE, UH, THE 16 MONTHS OR LONGER, I'VE PURSUED THAT PARTICULAR LOT ON BRYAN 2 0 9 BRYAN STREET, AND WE ARE PREPARED TO CLOSE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE ON THAT PROPERTY.
WE STILL HAVE A DESIRE TO, TO BUILD ON THAT PROPERTY, BUT UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES TO INVEST, YOU KNOW, THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS INTO THE PROCESS OF GETTING THE TITLE CLEARED SO WE CAN BE PROTECT OUR FINANCIAL INTEREST IN IT, IT'S GONNA TAKE SOME TIME.
AND IT'S NOT THAT I'M TRYING TO DELAY FOR FINANCIAL REASONS, IT'S JUST THE LEGAL PROCESS THAT I HAVE NO CONTROL OVER OR WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER.
WAS THIS, UH, MR. D HE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT ACTUALLY BID ON THE PROPERTY, CORRECT? AM I RIGHT? UM, I FEEL COMFORTABLE IN SAYING THAT HE WAS THE FINAL HIGHEST BIDDER.
I'M NOT SURE IF THERE WAS ANY INTERVENING BIDS.
I DON'T, I JUST, NO ONE HAS BIDDED ON THE, NO ONE HAS BID.
I MEAN, IF NO ONE ELSE BIDDED ON IT AND THERE'S NO PUSH, THERE'S NOBODY BEHIND HIS BACK.
NOBODY'S TRYING TO RUN AND TAKE HIS PROPERTY.
I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH IT GIVING AN EXTENSION MYSELF.
THERE WAS GIVEN AN EXTENSION AND THERE WAS ELIMINATING IN TOTAL THE COMMITMENT TO BUILD A HOUSE AT SOME POINT IN TIME.
WHAT HE'S ASKING FOR IS WE TOTALLY ELIMINATE THE, THE REQUIREMENT THAT A STRUCTURE A HOME BE BUILT ON THAT LOCK WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
SO IT'S JUST THE TIME, NOT, NOT THE COVENANT.
NOT, NOT THAT HE WOULDN'T BUILD A HOUSE.
WELL THAT, SO THE COVENANTS THAT ARE INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET, UM, THERE IS AN EXHIBIT B, WHICH ARE THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WOULD ATTACH TO THE DEED.
ONE THAT THE COVENANT SHALL BE ADMINISTERED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONER, OR ITS SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST.
TWO, THAT ANY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING UNIT NOT OCCUPIED BY THE OWNER MUST BE SOLD OR RENTED TO PERSONS OF LOW TO MODERATE INCOME.
AND IN THE EVENT THAT THE DWELLING UNIT, UM, IS NOT OCCUPIED BY THE OWNER, IS NOT RENTED BY PERSONS LOW MODERATE INCOME, TITLE OF THE PROPERTY SHALL VERT BACK TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
I THOUGHT THAT THAT SOMEWHERE I READ THAT HE WAS ASKING FOR A, TO REMOVE THE BILL ANY BUILDING TIMEFRAME WHATSOEVER.
THE TIMEFRAME, BUT NOT THE REQUIREMENT THAT HE'S TO BUILD A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE.
SO 15 YEARS FROM NOW, HE'S ASKING TO REMOVE THE TIMEFRAME.
HE'S ASKING TO REMOVE THE TIMEFRAME.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, I'M GETTING AT.
AND, AND I GUESS WHAT CROSSED MY MIND AS WE HAVE A VERY, WE HAVE SOMEWHAT OF A DEFINITIVE TIMELINE FOR CURING TITLE AT 32 MONTHS.
AND IN KEEPING WITH OUR GOALS AS A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WHICH IS TO CREATE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES, THAT, THAT IF WE KEPT A TIMEFRAME ON THE PURCHASE PROPERTY, BUT EXTENDED IT TO 36 MONTHS FROM CLOSING, WHICH WOULD, THE CLOSE GOES AHEAD AND AFTER GOES THROUGH ANOTHER COUPLE MONTHS OF, OF THIS PROCESS TO GET TO CLOSING, UM, THEN 36 MONTHS WOULD START AND THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM THREE YEARS BASICALLY TO GET TITLE CLEARED, UH, AND THEN BEGIN CONSTRUCTION OF, OF, OF A RESIDENCE, WHICH IS OUR ULTIMATE GOAL AND REASON WE SOLD THE PROPERTY TO HIM TO START WITH.
SO, SO WHAT WOULD YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON THIS? THE THREE YEARS? YEAH, THAT, THAT I, I, THAT THAT WOULD BE A FAULT.
FROM THE TIME THAT HE CLOSES ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT HE STARTS CONSTRUCTION WITHIN THREE YEARS AFTER THAT.
AND AGAIN, THAT GIVES HIM TIME TO DO THE RIGHT.
SO YOU ARE IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO CLOSE FAMILY.
MY CLOSE CLOSING ATTORNEY STILL HAVE THE PAPERWORK.
I HAVE NOT TOLD THE CITY I'LL FORFEITED THE PROPERTY WE'RE STANDING BY TO SEE WHAT THE OKAY.
WHAT TIME ARE YOU ASKING FOR OR LOOKING FOR?
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MY REQUEST WAS BECAUSE OF THE FI FINANCIAL, UH, EXPENDITURES THAT WE'RE GONNA TO PLACE ON THE BACK END OF CLEARING THE TITLE, I'M ASKING FOR YOU TO REMOVE THE TIMEFRAME.I STILL WANT TO BUILD ON THE PROPERTY.
I KNOW WORD THE PEOPLE SAY WHAT'S, WHAT'S THE WORD? WORD? WHAT'S WORD WORTH? BUT, YOU KNOW, MY ORIGINAL OBJECTIVE AND REASON WHY I AGREED TO THE ONE YEAR IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO, TO MOVE THE NEW BURN IS MEET AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO BUILD ON THE LOT BECAUSE BRYAN STREET WAS GONNA BE MY, WHERE WE LIVED WAS GONNA BE OUR PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
WE WERE WITH ONE YEAR TIMEFRAME.
MS. STEELER ASKED YOU, WHAT'S YOUR TIME? WELL, MY TIME AT THIS POINT, UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE I CAN'T PREDICT HOW LONG IT'S GONNA TAKE TO CLEAR THE TITLE, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM MY CLOSING ATTORNEY, UH, DOING THE RESEARCH, THE HEIR FIVE YEARS AGO LIVED IN NEW MEXICO.
SO, AND IF THAT PERSON'S DIED, THEN WE GOT TRACK DOWN THAT PERSON'S HEIRS.
AND IF ONE OF THOSE HEIRS EVERY HOW MANY HEIRS HE MAY OR SHE MAY HAVE, THEN WE GOTTA TRACK DOWN THOSE HEIRS.
SO, I MEAN, ME PERSONALLY, I'M AWARE OF, OF A TRACK OF LAND THAT'S BEEN IN MY FAMILY GROWING UP IN CHAT COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA, THAT'S BEEN UNDER AIR PROPERTY FOR A COUPLE OF DECADES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T TRACK DOWN ALL THE ERRORS AND THE FAMILIES DECIDE NOT TO EVEN BE BOTHERED WITH IT.
YOU PARTIALLY ASKED MY QUESTION, BUT I'M GONNA ASK YOU AFTER THE TITLE IS CLEARED.
I CAN MOVE, MOVE FORWARD IMMEDIATELY ON, ON WITHIN WHO IMMEDIATELY, ONCE THE TITLE IS CLEARED, I CAN MOVE FORWARD.
I WOULDN'T HESITATE WITH MOVING FORWARD TO GETTING ANYTHING BUILT OVER THERE WITHIN A YEAR, YOU WOULD SAY.
SO WITHIN A YEAR, GETTING THE TITLE CLEARED, I MEAN, WITHIN A YEAR AFTER THE TITLE IS CLEARED? YES, SIR.
BUT THIS IS MY ST THIS IS WHERE I, I PLEAD TO THE COMMISSION IS THAT I'M THE ONE THAT'S RISKING MAKING THE FINANCIAL RISK.
AND FOR ME TO GO OUT AND SPEND $10,000 TO CLEAR THIS TITLE AND THEN GIVE IT BACK BECAUSE IT COULD BE ANY UNFORESEEN CIRCUMSTANCES, MY HEALTH COULD CHANGE, OUR HEALTH COULD CHANGE.
THAT SLOWED THE PROCESS DOWN ONLY TO SPEND THAT MONEY ONLY AND THEN TO BE PENALIZED FOR NOT GETTING A FOUNDATION DOWN WITHIN A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF TIME.
IT'S A MAJOR FINANCIAL LOSS FOR ME.
AND I ASKED ANYBODY ON THE PANEL TONIGHT WHO WOULD WANT TO BE ON THAT UNDER THE TRIGGER, LIKE TO UNDER THE GUN.
LET ME ASK A QUESTION, IF I MAY.
SO WITH KIPPS, AND JUST I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND.
THE THREE YEARS THAT YOU WERE SPEAKING OF WOULD NOT START UNTIL AFTER THEY CLOSED CLEARED TIME.
AND THAT WAS JUST A SUGGESTION, NOT A RECOMMENDATION.
NO, IT WAS, IT WAS SOMETHING FOR US TO KICK AROUND.
SO WE'RE SAYING AFTER 36 MONTHS THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT LEAST FOR SOME COMPLETION.
NOW WHY NOT? LET'S JUST BECAUSE WE DO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD, TAKE INTO ACCOUNT AFTER THEY DO CLOSE CLEAR AND EVERYTHING IS ON THE WAY, THEN WHY NOT REVISIT AFTER 24 MONTHS IF WE SEE THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO MEET THAT 36 MONTH THRESHOLD BECAUSE WE DO LIVE IN THE REAL WORLD.
AND YOUR HEALTH COULD CHANGE, THINGS COULD HAPPEN, BUT AT LEAST THE TITLE'S CLEAR IT'S YOURS.
AND SOMETHING SHOULD HAVE BEEN STARTED WITHIN THAT FIRST YEAR.
IF WE GET INTO THE SECOND YEAR AND THERE'S STILL NOTHING THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE, THEN WE HAVE TO LOOK TO SAY, HEY, WE MAY NOT HAVE DONE OUR DUE DILIGENCE AND NOW WE JUST HAVE NO TIMEFRAME AND IT CAN JUST GO ON AND ON AND ON.
COMMISSIONER MORGAN? LET, LET ME JUST CLARIFY A COUPLE OF POINTS.
SO THE CLOSING DATE WOULD BE 30 DAYS FROM APPROVAL OF THE CONVEYANCE BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
SO IF THE BOARD, LET'S JUST SAY FOR A HYPOTHETICAL TIMELINE, IF YOU ALL WERE INCLINED TO MAKE SOME CHANGE TO A DEEDED RESTRICTION TONIGHT, CONCEIVABLY THE BOARD WOULD CONSIDER APPROVING THIS REVISED CONVEYANCE IN FEBRUARY.
30 DAYS FROM THAT FEBRUARY MEETING IS WHEN MR. DIGGS WOULD HAVE TO CLOSE.
WHAT HE'S SAYING IS A CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE OF THE TIME THAT IT WILL TAKE FOR HIM TO CLEAR TITLE IS 32 6 MONTHS.
THAT'S HIS CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
HE'S ALSO COMMUNICATING THE FACT THAT IF THE HEIR THAT THEY'VE IDENTIFIED DIES IN THAT PROCESS, WE MAY HAVE A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER HEIRS AND MORE PEOPLE
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HE'S GOTTA TRACK DOWN AND THAT LEGAL PROCESS COULD BE EXTENDED.SO I THINK WHAT COMMISSIONER PARAGO WAS SAYING IS THAT THAT 36 TIME MONTH TIMEFRAME TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION WOULD BEGIN AT THE TIME OF CLOSING.
AM I UNDERSTANDING YOU CORRECTLY, MR. PARAGO? MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S WHAT MR. PARAGO WAS PUTTING OUT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING.
WHENEVER I UNDERSTAND THAT MR. DIGS CLEAR'S TITLE.
I APPRECIATE YOU CLARIFYING THAT.
AND AM I CORRECT IN HEARING YOU SAY THROUGH, THROUGH WHAT WE'VE READ, THAT 32 MONTHS IS SORT OF THE MINIMUM AND THEN IT EXTENDS AND EXPANDS FROM THERE? THAT WAS BASED ON MY, ON THE ATTORNEY WE SPOKE WITH IN JACKSONVILLE.
UH, WHAT WAS HIS NAME? Y MR. ERICK WITH, UH, BERG AND DE SUMS OUTTA JACKSONVILLE.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE, THERE'S NOT MANY ATTORNEYS, UH, THAT PRACTICE IN THIS, UH, PARTICULAR FIELD OF PRACTICE.
THERE WAS, WE CONTACTED AN ATTORNEY UP IN ELIZABETH CITY.
THEY DIDN'T RETURN THE CALL AGAINST THE TRIAL DISCIPLINE FEASIBLE.
UH, THERE'S SOME RECOMMENDATIONS MADE LOCALLY HERE.
NOBODY, I DID TALK TO A COUPLE OF 'EM, BUT NOBODY TOOK ME UP ON IT.
AND FINALLY WE LOCATED THE ATTORNEY DOWN IN JACKSONVILLE ACCESS AND TALKED WITH US AND SYSTEM I'M WILLING TO WORK WITH TO GET THROUGH THIS PROCESS.
BUT YOU WE'RE TALKING THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THAT I'M GONNA HAVE TO ADVANCE IN THIS, UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GET A TITLE CLEAR.
AND THERE IS TWO PHASES IN THIS PROCESS, AND NOT JAMIE.
ONE IS GETTING ALL THE AFFIDAVITS SIGNED TO CLEAR THE TITLE, AND THEN IT TALKED ABOUT THE PERIOD OF QUIET.
SO I THINK WHAT THE MEMORANDUM IS FORECASTING, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT CONVERSATIONS HE'S HAD WITH HIS ATTORNEY, BUT ACCORDING TO THE MEMORANDUM HE HAS TO WAIT AT, THEY'RE ESSENTIALLY DOING AN ADVERSE POSSESSION CLAIM AND TACKING ON TO THE LENGTH OF TIME THAT THE CITY AND COUNTY HAD OWNERSHIP TO QUIET TITLE.
SO THEY'RE TACKING ON, AND I THINK YOU HAVE ANOTHER YEAR, I THINK 20 MONTHS, UM, FOR THAT SEVEN YEAR COLOR TITLE CLAIM.
UM, AND THEN THEREAFTER THAT WOULD, AFTER HE MEETS THAT TIME REQUIREMENT OF SEVEN YEARS, THEN HE CAN BEGIN HIS ACTION TO QUIET TITLE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THAT ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION.
YEAH, NO, I, I KNEW I THOUGHT IT WAS A TWO PAGE PROCESS.
WELL, AND I, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, NOT THAT IT'S DIRECTLY RELATED, BUT IT'S RELEVANT IN THE FORM OF CONTEXT THERE.
YOU DID MENTION THERE WAS A SECOND PARTIAL INVOLVED IN THIS.
UH, WHERE ARE WE AT WITH THAT SECOND PARCEL RIGHT NOW? I FORFEITED THAT PROPERTY.
YOU FORFEITED THAT ONE? YES, I DID.
AND THIS, IT WAS A FINANCIAL DECISION.
UH, WE, WE'VE LOOKED AT A COUPLE OF THE LOTS, UM, OFF OF, UH, WHAT WAS THAT? I GUESS IT'D BE THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN.
AND IT WAS THE FINANCIAL DECISION I HAD TO MAKE.
I DIDN'T WANT TO OVEREXTEND MYSELF AND MAKE PROMISES I CAN'T KEEP.
I UNDERSTAND YOU RECOMMENDATION.
I THERE'S TOO ASK SOMETHING FOR Y'ALL TO TALK ABOUT.
I, I FEEL LIKE, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE SAID AS A PRECEDENT, UM, ALWAYS INVOLVES SOME STIPULATIONS OF, OR REQUIREMENTS OF HOW WE WANT THE LAND TO BE DEVELOPED.
AND PART OF THAT IS ALSO A TIMEFRAME.
SO I, I DON'T THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO KEEP A TIMEFRAME, BUT I THINK WE CAN AMEND THE TIMEFRAME UNLESS, UNLESS THERE'S SOME BASED ON SOME SITUATION, DOESN'T IT? BY YOU CANNOT.
THE REVERSION CLAUSE, I BELIEVE HAS A, A SENTENCE AT THE END OF IT THAT SAYS THAT THIS WILL BE THE DATE UNLESS THE TWO PARTIES AGREE TO EXTEND IT IN WRITING.
AND WE COULD ADD SOMETHING LIKE THAT TO IT, UH, THAT MR. DIGS IF, IF SOMETHING HE NEEDS MORE TIME OR SO FORTH.
AGAIN, I, OUR, OUR OBJECTIVE IN MY MIND WAS ALWAYS TO, TO GET A HOUSE.
WOULD BE AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY.
UH, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ALL, THAT'S ALL I WAS, WHAT WAS DRIVING MY THOUGHTS AND MY YEAH.
IDEAS WAS, WAS TO BE TRUE TO OUR GOALS AS A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
AND IF YOU ALL ARE INCLINED TO INCLUDE A TIME CERTAIN TO COMMENCE CONSTRUCTION, 32 MONTHS IS A VERY CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATE.
SO IF YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT A NUMBER, YOU MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT A NUMBER THAT FAR EXCEEDS 32 BUCKS, ABOUT 48.
IS THAT REASONABLE? I MEAN, THAT'S ANOTHER YEAR OVER WHAT I ORIGINALLY SAID.
AND THAT, THAT AGAIN IS BEING UP FAIR TO MR. DIGS, I THINK.
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WITH, WITH THE, THE CAVEAT THAT IF SOMETHING COMES UP AND TITLE STILL HADN'T BEEN CLEARED AND OTHER ISSUES COME UP, WE TALK ABOUT IT AGAIN.'CAUSE HE, HE BRINGS UP A VERY GOOD POINT.
HE SPENT A LOT OF MONEY ALREADY AND THE FACT THAT HE, HE CLEARS THE TITLE AND GIVES IT BACK TO US WITH A CLEAR TITLE, THEN WE'RE THE BENEFICIARIES OF THAT.
AND THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S NOT QUITE FAIR TO HIM EITHER.
UM, SO I WOULD, I WOULD THINK THAT, THAT IF WE GAVE A TIMEFRAME WITH THE ABILITY TO RENEGOTIATE THAT PER SE MM-HMM.
I MEAN, KEPT PUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S A GOOD THING AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA DRAG IT ON.
I, YOU KNOW, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE FOUR YEAR, THAT 48 MONTHS EXTENSION, UH, FOR MS. DI.
AND WOULD WE NEED TO ADD TO THAT, THAT IT, OR IS IT ALREADY PART OF THAT, UM, CLAUSE, LIKE YOU SAID THAT WELL, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY A PART OF IT.
IT WOULD'VE TO BE, THAT SENTENCE WOULD'VE TO BE ADDED.
IF SO I THINK THAT IT COULD BE RENEGOTIATED.
I THINK COMMISSIONER PARHAM'S MOTION IS THAT YOU AGREE TO MODIFY THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS CONTAINED IN THE PREVIOUSLY EXECUTED DEEDS DEEDED WITH MR. DIGGS TO ALLOW THE COMMENCEMENT OF CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 48 MONTHS FROM THE DATE OF CLOSING SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
SO THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD BE AMENDED IN THE PREVIOUSLY EXECUTED DEED IS THE TIMEFRAME BY WHICH CONSTRUCTION HAS TO BEGIN ALL OTHER RESTRICTIONS WITH REMAIN IN PLACE.
WAS THAT YOUR MOTION, MR. COURT? YES, THAT'S MA'AM.
CAN I ASK A QUESTION ON THAT ONE BEFORE? I THINK PROCEDURALLY WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, I'LL SECOND THE MOTION.
IF YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS.
YOUR HONOR, THIS WOULD BE, YES.
SO AT THIS POINT IN TIME, I WANT ASK TOO, IT CAN WE, AS PART OF THAT MOTION ADD THAT IT COULD BE, UM, REVISITED, LIKE IF WE GET TO THE END OF 48 MONTHS AND THE TITLE IS STILL NOT CLEAR, THE LANGUAGE IN THE PREVIOUSLY EXECUTED DEEDED ALLOWS YOU TO EXTEND THE TIMEFRAME OKAY.
FOR ANY TYPE OF REVERSION BY AGREEMENT BETWEEN THE PARTIES.
MY CONCERN WITH THAT CLAUSE IS THAT NO ONE HERE WILL BE HERE IN 48 MONTHS ON THIS BOARD.
IS THAT CORRECT? PROBABLY NOT.
YOU MIGHT GET MORE CONSIDERABLE
I THINK, I THINK IT WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE PLAN.
YOU KNOW, I KEPT SAYING WE WANT HOUSES ON THE PROPERTY.
AND FOR ME AS AN INVESTOR, A HA PROPERTY WITHOUT A HOUSE OWNER, IT IS A LIABILITY TO ME.
SO I, I, YOU KNOW, WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU, BUT YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THIS COMMITTEE MAKING A PROMISE THAT WILL I GET THE SAME CONSIDERATION AFTER I SPENT $10,000 TO CLEAR THIS TITLE.
BUT I WOULD HOPE AFTER FOUR, EIGHT MONTHS YOU BEGIN IT.
THERE'S NO, THAT'S MY CONCERN.
IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL, AND I'LL SAY THIS, MADAM CHAIR, THAT IF YOU ALL APPROVE THIS CHANGE, MR. DIGGS STILL HAS THE OPTION TO FORFEIT THE PROPERTY IF IT DOESN'T COMPORT WITH HIS TIMEFRAMES AND OBJECTIVES AS A DEVELOPER.
SO IF THAT WERE TO OCCUR, WHOEVER WOULD BID ON THE PROPERTY NEXT WOULD BE IN THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCE.
BUT YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND IS THAT ALL THE DISCUSSION FROM THE COMMISSIONERS? UM, DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE OR, YES.
AND DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THE MOTIONS ON THE FLOOR SEEING HEAD SHAKE? YES.
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AND MORGAN? YES.MOTION CARRIES THAT THE TIMEFRAME WILL BE EXTENDED TO 48 MONTHS, SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY THE BOARD OF MENT WAS THE LAST PART OF HIS CORRECT SUBJECT TO THE APPROVAL OF BOARD DOCUMENT.
[8. Housing Working Group Report ]
NEXT THING ON OUR AGENDA IS THE HOUSING WORK GROUP REPORT.I BELIEVE THAT'S YOU COMMISSIONER PARAGO.
UM, WE STARTED OFF THE NEW YEAR WITH THE BANG, UH, HAD HAD A GREAT MEETING, UH, WITH MR. STRICK, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, COMMISSIONER WALKER, MYSELF, AND, UH, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR HOWE.
UH, MAIN THING THAT WE HAD REFERRED TO US WAS THE REQUEST TO PURCHASE 8 0 8 AND EIGHT 10 BURN STREET.
UM, THE PRESENTATION WAS MADE AT THE LAST MEETING, IF YOU RECALL.
AND, UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION IS THAT THE SALE BE INITIATED, UH, IN THE NORMAL PROCEDURES, AGAIN WITH RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT WE'VE BEEN PUTTING ON PROPERTY.
UH, BEING THAT THE RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE WILL BEGIN WITHIN 12 MONTHS OF CLOSING, UH, REVERSION CLAUSE IF THE ABOVE IS NOT STARTED WITHIN 12 MONTHS, BE INCLUDED.
UM, AND ANY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING, NOT OWNER OR FAMILY OCCUPIED MUST BE SOLD OR RENTED TO A LOWER MODERATE INCOME PERSON, WHICH IS, WAS ALSO IN THE DEEDS THAT WE WERE SENDING THAT MR. DIGGS, UH, WAS UNDER.
AND WE ADDED TO THAT, UM, THAT NO INOPERABLE UNLICENSED JUNK OR STRIPPED OUT VEHICLES, TRAILERS, AND BOATS MAY BE STORED ON ANY PORTION OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE, THE FORMAL DOCUMENT HAS BEEN WORDSMITHED AS WE REQUESTED, UH, BY LEGAL STAFF TO NOT BE SO BLUNT, I GUESS, BUT TO, UH, REFLECT THE RESTRICTIONS THAT WE'VE USED IN THE PAST SO THAT WE HAVE SOME CONSISTENCY IN HOW WE APPROACH THESE RESTRICTIONS.
BUT AGAIN, TO GET A, TO GET A HOUSE THERE, WHICH IS, IS THE INTENT OF THE PURCHASER, AND TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, IT DOESN'T BECOME A HOME FOR ANY JUNK CARS THAT WE'VE SPENT THREE OR FOUR YEARS TRYING TO GET RID OF IN DUFFY FIELD.
SO THAT, THAT IS THE RECOMMENDATION THAT WE APPROVE, UH, THE INITIATION OF THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
4 8 0 8 AND EIGHT 10 BURN STREET.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE TWO LOTS TOGETHER WOULD PROBABLY MAKE ONE LOT, CORRECT? CORRECT.
YEAH, ONE LOT'S ABOUT AS WIDE AS THE DRIVEWAY.
AND I WILL MAKE THAT AS A MOTION AS PART OF THIS, THAT WE DO APPROVE THE INITIATION OF THE UPSET BID PROCESS FOR 8 0 8 8 10 BURN STREET WITH THE COVENANTS THAT ARE SHOWN IN THE, THE INFORMATION THAT'VE BEEN PRESENTED TO US.
AND JUST SO EVERYONE IS CLEAR, IN YOUR PACKET, YOU RECEIVED TWO RESOLUTIONS, ONE FOR 8 0 8, AND ONE FOR EIGHT 10.
AND I'M UNDERSTANDING MR. PARAGUAY'S MOTION TO INCLUDE THE ADOPTION OF BOTH OF THOSE RESOLUTIONS AS IT PERTAINS TO THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES BEING DISCUSSED.
AND NOW SECOND THAT WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, ANY MORE DISCUSSION AMONG THE COMMISSIONERS CONCERNING THAT? I HAVE, GO AHEAD, STEVE.
I'M SAY, JUST REAL QUICK, PROCEDURALLY, SINCE TECHNICALLY WE'RE STILL IN THE HOUSING WORKING GROUP UPDATE, CAN WE MAKE THAT MOTION TO GO FORWARD WITH THAT, OR DO YOU NEED TO FORMALLY GET DOWN TO THE NEXT STEP ON YOU THEN? IF, IF EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO IT NOW, YOU CAN.
UH, THIS AREA THAT WE'RE SPEAKING OF ON, ON BURN STREET IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE WELL KEPT BLOCKS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND I GUESS MY CONCERN IS, AND PLEASE TELL ME IF, OR CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT DO WE HAVE ANY KIND OF LEEWAY ON FINDING OUT THE HISTORY OF WHO'S TRYING TO OWN THE PROPERTY, WHO'S PURCHASING THE PROPERTY, TO MAYBE SEE IF THEY HAVE A HISTORY OF JUNK CARS OR ANYTHING ELSE ON THEIR, IS THAT EVEN SOMETHING THAT THIS COMMITTEE IS PRIVY TO? IF I MAY, I, I, I WOULD ASK THAT THE CHAIR ACTUALLY SPEAK
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TO THAT QUESTION.UH, THE CHAIR AND I SPENT A CONSIDERABLE TIME WITH, UH, UH, MR. UH, TUYA.
I THINK I JUST KNOW HIM AS TONY.
SO I'M INVOLVED MR. TONY TUYA, UH, AND, UH, AND WE WERE INVITED INTO HIS HOME.
AND SO, UH, MADAM CHAIR, IF, IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND JUST SPEAKING TO THE PERSON DOING THE DEVELOPMENT, THAT WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL.
AND, UM, THIS GENTLEMAN IS ALSO A CONTRACTOR.
HE ACTUALLY CAME BEFORE OUR BOARD AT OUR LAST MEETING, I BELIEVE, OR THE ONE BEFORE THAT.
UM, YOU, YOU ARE PROBABLY NOT HERE TO HEAR HIM, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
HE, UM, WANTS HIS SON TO MOVE INTO THE HOUSE ACROSS THE STREET WHO ALSO WORKS IN HIS CONSTRUCTION BUSINESS WITH HIM.
AND IF HIS SON NEEDED TO LEAVE, HE WOULD WANT TO RENT IT, KEEP IT AS A RENTAL PROPERTY.
BUT WE, UM, HEARD HIM AND FELT LIKE IT WAS A GOOD IDEA THAT HE WAS GONNA LIVE RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE PROPERTY.
YOU KNOW, HE HAS RENOVATED HIS HOME, BOUGHT IT IN A VERY DILAPIDATED CONDITION, AND THEN, UH, REFURBISHED IT.
AND HE AND HIS FAMILY, EXTENDED FAMILY LIVE THERE.
IT'S VERY, UM, WELL KEPT PROPERTY, LIKE YOU SAID.
IS THIS THE GENTLEMAN WHO LIVES RIGHT BESIDE THE OMEGA CENTER? MM-HMM MM-HMM.
I HADN'T MET HIM, BUT MY QUESTION.
UM, I JUST WOULDN'T WANT TO TAKE A CHANCE ON NOT KNOWING WHO WE'RE SELLING TO AND NOT KNOWING WHAT YOU ALL HAVE DONE THE HOMEWORK.
AND I'M SORRY I WASN'T GETTING HEARING LATE.
AND JUST AS A POINT OF CLARITY, WE'RE INITIATING AN UPSET BID PROCESS.
SO IT COULD BE THAT SOMEONE ELSE, UM, MAKES A DEPOSIT AND UPSETS THE INITIAL BID, AND AT THE END OF THAT PROCESS, IF THERE ARE SUBSEQUENT BIDS, YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ACCEPT OR REJECT WHOEVER THAT FINAL HIGHEST BIDDER IS.
UM, AND IN THINKING ABOUT WHETHER YOU WANT TO ACCEPT A BID OR NOT, IT'S ABSOLUTELY APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER THE REDEVELOPMENT PROJECT AND WHETHER YOU HAVE A BELIEF THAT THE REDEVELOPER HAS THE CAPACITY TO CARRY OUT THE PROJECT CONSISTENT WITH THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES OF YOUR PLAN.
BECAUSE I, I THINK MYSELF, I LOSE, UM, SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT WE'RE JUST INITIATING THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
AND WHILE THAT WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A VERY GOOD PROJECT, IF THERE'S A HIGHER BID THAT COMES IN, WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS AGAIN OF, UM, IF THEY WIN, THAT WE WOULD CONSIDER WHAT THEY ARE GONNA BUILD.
THE CON THE RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE IMPOSING WILL BE A PART OF THE NOTICE FOR THE BID.
SO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO UP, WHO WANTS TO CONSIDER UPSETTING THE INITIAL BID WILL DO SO, SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE ADVERTISED, WHICH ARE REFLECTED IN THE RESOLUTION BEFORE YOU.
SO, ROBBIE, TO YOUR QUESTION, WE CAN HAVE ALL THE WELL WISHES IN THE WORLD, AND I THINK VERY HIGHLY OF THE PERSON THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH, THAT SOMEONE ELSE CAN COME ALONG AS LONG AS THEY'RE AGREE, WILL WILLING TO AGREE TO THE SAME CLAUSES THAT ARE ATTACHED.
NO, THEY CAN HAVE A HISTORY OF ALL THE DRUNK CARS IN THE WORLD, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'VE GOTTA BIND 'EM BY.
BUT AT THAT POINT, IF ONCE THAT FINAL HIGHEST FITTER HAS BEEN UNVEILED, IF YOU HAVE A LEGITIMATE REASON OR FOR NO REASON AT ALL, YOU CAN DECIDE THAT YOU DO NOT WANNA SELL THE PROPERTY.
SO YOU ALWAYS RESERVE, AND THAT'S REFLECTED IN YOUR, YOUR RESOLUTION, THAT YOU RESERVE THE RIGHT TO STOP THE PROCESS AT ANY POINT.
THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.
NOW I HAVE A COMMENT I WANT TO MAKE.
WHEN WE COME TO THE POINT, WE CAN SAY WE ARE GOING TO INVESTIGATE OR SEE THE PAST RECORDS OF HOW PERSON CAN KEEP OR KEPT HIS PROPERTY.
I THINK WE ARE GOING A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR.
I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
COMMISSIONER DILL HUNT AND THIS, IT'S NOT PART OF THIS MOTION FOR THIS PROPERTY AT ALL.
SO I DO UNDERSTAND THAT CONCERN.
WE CAN ONLY, LIKE JAMIE SAID, WE CAN ONLY PUT THE, OR MAYBE STEVE SAID, WE CAN ONLY PUT THE RESTRICTIONS ON IT AND WHOEVER'S THE HIGHEST BUYER HONOR, REGARDLESS WHERE HE COME FROM.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, UM, DO WE NEED DO A ROLL CALL? VOTE FOR THAT, PLEASE.
MAY I ASK, UH, YOU'RE THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, SO YOU'RE PROBABLY THE ONE WHO'S IN CHARGE OF LETTING, UM, THAT PERSON KNOW HOW IT PASSED TONIGHT? YES.
AND MOST PEOPLE COME TO HEAR THE VOTE THE NEXT MEETING, SO I'LL
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DEFINITELY LET HIM KNOW.ARE YOU STILL RECORDING? I'M STILL RECORD.
GO AHEAD WITH THAT, MR. PARAGO.
UH, WE THOUGHT IT WAS TIME FOR AN ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE 10 LOTS THAT THE COUNTY, UH, CONVEYED TO US, UH, WHAT, 18 MONTHS AGO, I GUESS.
UH, 'CAUSE IN THAT, UH, CONVEYANCE FROM THE COUNTY AND THE CITY OF THOSE 10 LOTS THAT WE REQUESTED, THERE WAS A REVERSION CLAUSE, AND THERE WAS ALSO A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT NEEDED.
WE NEEDED TO UTILIZE THOSE LOTS IN A CERTAIN TIME PERIOD TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO WE ASKED SETH TO BEGIN THE PROCESS OF EVALUATING AND LOOKING AT THOSE 10 LOTS THAT WERE CONVEYED TO US AND, AND GET AN UPDATE TOGETHER FOR US.
SO IF, IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN, YOU KNOW, REPORT TO THE CITY AND THE COUNTY, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THAT.
UH, FOR INSTANCE, UH, THE TWO LOTS THAT WE HAVE AGREED TO CONVEY THE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE EUBANKS HOUSE WERE TWO OF THE LOTS THAT WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY.
AND THEY WILL BE UTILIZED FOR HOUSING, UH, FOR HOUSING, WHICH IS, IS OUR MAIN GOAL.
SO THAT'S, YOU KNOW, JUST WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THOSE LOTS THAT, THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED FROM THEM.
UM, AND HE WILL GIVE US UPDATES ON EUBANK, AND WE'LL FOLLOW ME LATER IN THE AGENDA.
UH, AND WE DISCUSS THE FACT THAT FOR OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING, THAT WE WILL PROBABLY, UH, BE PUTTING TOGETHER A, UH, CONCEPT PLAN FOR WHAT WE DO WITH A STREET, UH, A STREET, A STREET AS A MAY, A POTENTIAL NEXT, UH, LOCATION FOR US TO, UH, CONSIDER HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
AND WE ALSO DISCUSSED, UH, PROPERTY ACQUISITION TARGETS WITHIN THE, UH, REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY THAT, THAT MIGHT HELP US, UH, CONSOLIDATE PROPERTY AND MAKE IT MORE ATTRACTIVE TO DEVELOPERS AND BUILDERS.
UM, ESPECIALLY THANK YOU, BECAUSE THE NEXT AGENDA ITEM WAS TO CONSIDER THE RE RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE PURCHASE OF 8 0 8 AND 18 BURN STREET.
SO WE HAVE INITIATED THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
WE HAVE INITIATED THE UPSET BID PROCESS.
[10. Neighborhood Working Group Report ]
THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORKING GROUP, UH, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING YOU DID NOT HAVE A MEETING THIS MONTH.IS THAT, DO YOU HAVE ANY WE DID NOT HAVE A MEETING, ALTHOUGH, UM, I ALWAYS RIDE AROUND AND I DO SPEAK WITH THE NEIGHBORS IN THE COMMUNITY AS RELATES TO WHAT'S GOING ON.
UM, THERE ARE CURRENTLY NO, UH, STREET PROJECTS WITH THE, UH, CITY OF NEW BERN THAT ARE CURRENTLY GOING ON.
WE HAVE BEEN SEEING THEM COME OUT DOING SOME PATCHWORK IN SOME AREAS WHERE IT'S BEEN NEEDED.
UM, WALK, WALK BELLAMY REALLY LOOKS GOOD WITH THE HOUSES THAT ARE BEING CON CONSTRUCTED.
UH, CON CONSTRUCTION ALWAYS GETS EVERYBODY EXCITED.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S A GOOD THING.
THE LANDSCAPE IS JUST A JANUARY LANDSCAPE IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN, IN THE DUFFER FIELD AND THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND SO IT ALWAYS, UH, MOTHER NATURE COMES BACK EVERY YEAR AND CLAIMS AND TAKES IT TO DUE.
UH, WE COULD ALWAYS BE DOING MORE.
WE ARE CURRENTLY, AND WITH THE HELP OF MRS. COOPER, AND WE'LL BE GETTING IN TOUCH.
WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS SPEAKING WITH, UH, MARVIN, SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS, WE'RE KIND OF GOING BACK AND REVISITING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE MAY NOT HAVE DONE AT THE LAST CLEANUP, OR WHY DID WE HAVE THE NUMBERS OR WHY DID WE ADVERTISE IT PROPERLY? AND WE ARE BIG THIS TIME ON PARTNERSHIPS.
AND SO WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS WE'RE GONNA GAIN BOOTS ON THE GROUND FIRST, AND THEN WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH HOW WE CAN COVER AND HOW WE CAN BEST MANEUVER THROUGH THE CITY USING PUBLIC WORKS, USING THE GENTLEMAN, UM, THROUGH THE PROGRAM FROM, UM, MC MCFADDEN DIDN'T DOING IT ANYMORE, BUT THEY ALWAYS GIVE US SOME OF THE GUYS WHO ARE ON GOOD BEHAVIOR TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT.
I THINK THERE'S SOME OF THE SAME GUYS WHO TAKE CARE OF PARKS AND AND WRECKS, BUT WE'RE GONNA TRY TO DO THIS AND DO IT IN A TIMEFRAME WHERE YOU'RE GONNA SEE A DIFFERENCE, UM, TO WHERE WE CAN HIT ALL OF THE, UH, DIFFERENT STREETS.
NOT EVERY SINGLE SOLITARY STREET THAT THAT'S IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, BUT CONCENTRATE ON WHERE THE HELP IS MOST, MOST NEEDED.
SO THAT'S WHERE OUR FOCUS IS NOW.
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UM, THANK YOU.[11. Wellness Working Group Report]
NEXT ITEM AGENDA IS THE WELLNESS WORKING GROUP, WHICH ALSO I HAD A NOTE THAT THEY DIDN'T, UM, MEET THIS MONTH.AND COMMISSIONER WALLACE IS NOT HERE, SO I BELIEVE, UH, DO YOU HAVE A STATEMENT THAT YOU WANTED TO SHARE? NO.
UM, THE NEXT, BEFORE YOU MOVE ON, YES, MA'AM.
I DID TALK TO COMMISSIONER WALLACE BEFORE I GOT HERE THIS AFTERNOON, AND HE DID LET ME KNOW THAT THE SUBCOMMITTEE DID MEET.
UM, WE'RE JUST WAITING FOR, UH, COMMISSIONER BRYANT, UH, THAT THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE, WE TALK ABOUT AT A LATER POINT.
[12. Project group report: Rule of Procedures ]
THE PROJECT WORK GROUP REPORT FROM, UM, WORKING ON THE RULES AND PROCEDURES.AND I RECEIVED A MESSAGE FROM COMMISSIONER PROCTOR TODAY.
SHE WAS TRAVELING OUT OF WORK AND THAT SHE FELT LIKE SHE WAS A LITTLE OVER HALFWAY DONE WITH THAT, UM, WORKING THROUGH THAT.
AND, UM, SO I, I ASK HER TO GIMME A CALL WHEN SHE GETS BACK IN TOWN SO WE CAN DISCUSS THE BEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD.
I'M WANNA BURY SOMEBODY THERE.
[13. Project group report: Planning retreat]
ONE IS THE PROJECT WORK GROUP FOR THE PLANNING RETREAT.AND YEAH, WE, WE TALKED A LITTLE BIT THIS WEEK ABOUT IT AND, UH, WE'RE STILL TRYING TO, I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO IRON OUT ONE OTHER PERSON TO COME AND SPEAK.
SO, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE, UM, UH, A COUPLE OF, A COUPLE OF SPEAKERS.
THE PROPOSED DATE, UH, WHICH I'LL INCLUDE, I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT, UH, IN, IN MY REPORT IS JANUARY 27TH.
UH, AS OPPOSED TO FEBRUARY DATE.
UH, AS OF OUR LAST MEETING, UH, THERE, THERE WERE QUITE A FEW COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD NOT BE THE, UH, BE ABLE TO MAKE THE FEBRUARY DATE.
UH, WE DID GET A CONFIRMED QUORUM, UH, VIA EMAIL, UH, TO ME, UH, AMONGST THE COMMISSION.
UM, SO WE SHOULD HAVE A QUORUM, UH, AT THE JANUARY 27TH DATE.
WE'LL DO A COUPLE WEEKS, WE'LL BE ADDED AGAIN, GUYS.
AND WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE AN AGENDA SENT TO YOU BEFORE THE, THE MEETING.
AND THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC, UH, THAT WILL BE A PUBLIC MEETING AS A QUORUM WILL BE HELD, UH, AND LOCATION AND ALL THAT WILL BE POSTED, UH, ONLINE, UH, IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE GENERAL STATUTE AND WHAT, UH, ATTORNEY, UH, BULLOCK TELLS ME I NEED TO DO.
MAY, YOU MAY TAKE SOME ACTION ABOUT THAT LATER ON TONIGHT,
COMMISSIONER FARIAN, UM, THAT TAKES US
[14. New Business. ]
RIGHT TO YOU.UM, MR. HUFF WITH THE NEW BUSINESS IN YOUR UPDATES.
AND WELL, WE, UH, WE WILL START WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT CALENDAR MOVEMENT AS, UH, AS STATED.
UM, AFTER OUR LAST MEETING, UH, A NUMBER OF COMMISSIONERS HAD CONCERNED, UH, THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT.
WE WERE CONCERNED WITH, UH, OVERALL FORUM NUMBERS INSTEAD OF THE, THE, UH, IDEAS THAT WE WOULD AMEND THE OVERALL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, UH, CALENDAR TO REFLECT A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION ON JANUARY 27TH.
AND, UH, IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COMMISSION, WE WILL NEED, UH, A MOTION, UH, TO, TO CARRIER IN ORDER TO MAKE THAT CHANGE.
AND YOU MIGHT WANT TO ADD, UM, I, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE DISCUSSED THIS, BUT A TIME FOR THE MEETING, THE PROPOSED MEETING ON JANUARY 27TH.
HAS THAT BEEN DETERMINED? I BELIEVE IT'S NINE TO 12.
JUST FOR EVERYONE'S, UH, INFORMATION.
SO THE MOTION I THINK WOULD BE TO AMEND THE REGULAR SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS TO ADD A MEETING ON JANUARY 27TH AT 9:00 AM TO BE HELD IN THE CITY HALL COURTROOM AND TO REMOVE THE FEBRUARY 17TH REGULAR MEETING.
BECAUSE THAT WAS THE DATE OF THE ORIGINAL STRATEGIC PLANNING.
WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING IN THIS COURTROOM, ARE WE? BUT WHEREVER YOU HAVE IT, UH, WE, WE HAD SAID, I BELIEVE, COMMISSIONER PARKER, YOU CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WE HAD SAID WE WANTED TO HAVE A DEVELOPMENT SERVICE.
SO WE CAN HAVE SOME WORKING AREA TO, RIGHT.
SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO AMEND THE REGULAR SCHEDULE OF MEETINGS TO ADD A STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING ON JANUARY 27TH AT 9:00 AM
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IN THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES CONFERENCE ROOM.AND TO REMOVE THE PREVIOUSLY CALENDARED FEBRUARY 17TH MEETING.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO AMEND THE CALENDAR AS, UH, MISSPOKE.
BUT LIKE I SAID TWICE, UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION.
WE DID NOT HAVE ANOTHER REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING IN FEBRUARY ON THE CALENDAR.
AND WE WILL NOW ON THE, THE TUESDAY NIGHT, I MEAN THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT, THE 14TH, OUR USUAL NIGHT, I SERVE WITH THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION.
I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT IN MY RECOMMENDATION, BUT THAT IS UP TO YOU.
SO IT'S REALLY JUST TO CHANGE THE STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING AND KEEP THE REST OF THE CALENDAR.
AS THE MOTION WAS AND SECONDED.
UM, IS THIS A ROLL CALL VOTE OR CAN WE VOTE? YOU CAN DO A VOICE VOTE.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF AMENDING THE CALENDAR, SAY AYE.
THE MOTION CARRIES AND OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WILL BE SCHEDULED ON JANUARY 27TH AND NOT FEBRUARY 17TH.
UH, THE OTHER ITEM ON MY LIST TONIGHT IS JUST TO GIVE A GENERAL UPDATE ON THE WALT BELLAMY HOUSES.
UH, I HAVE A GREAT PLEASURE OF, UH, MEETING WITH, UH, CHANNEL NINE, UH, WITH OUR CHAIR PER, UH, WITH OUR CHAIRMEN, UH, BETH.
UM, WE GOT THE TOUR ALL THREE PROPERTIES.
I'M REALLY PLEASED TO REPORT TO THE COMMISSION TONIGHT THAT, UH, AS OF THIS MORNING, UH, SIDING IS INSTALLED ON ONE OF THE HOUSES.
AND, UH, DRYWALL IS, IS ROUGHED IN ON ONE OF THE HOUSES.
AND BY THE END OF THE WEEK, ALL THREE WILL HAVE DRYWALL ROUGHED IN AND SIDING DONE.
UH, UNDERGROUND WORK FOR UTILITIES HAS, UH, BEGUN.
I JUST WANT TO, UH, SAY THANK YOU TO MY COLLEAGUES, BOTH IN PUBLIC WORKS AND UTILITIES, UH, FOR REALLY HELPING US TO PUT THE WALL FOLLOWING, UH, HOUSES, UM, KEEP THOSE MOVING FORWARD.
AND OF COURSE, MY, MY SINCERE THANKS TO THE UNMET GROUP, THIS HAS BEEN AN ABSOLUTE PLEASURE TO WORK WITH.
UH, WE ARE AHEAD OF SCHEDULE AND SO, UM, WE DO ANTICIPATE BEING ABLE TO GO TO MARKET, UH, AS EARLY AS LATE APRIL, EARLY MAY.
YEAH, THOSE, THOSE HOUSES, I WILL SAY DID LOOK VERY GOOD.
I ENJOYED WALKING THROUGH THEM WITH YOU EARLIER THIS WEEK.
SO THAT IS, UH, THAT IS THE BULK OF MY REPORT, UNLESS ANY OF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS.
I WILL SAY ON THE EUBANKS, UH, ON, ON THE EUBANKS NINE 11 EUBANKS PROJECT, UH, THE ONLY REASON I, UH, LEFT THAT OUT OF MY REPORT THIS EVENING IS 'CAUSE THERE'S REALLY NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME.
WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH, UH, C-D-B-G-C-D-B-G, UM, REGULATIONS AND, AND, AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS WITH HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
AND, UH, AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO THAT.
AND AS SOON AS THERE IS SOMETHING, UH, TO REPORT, I PROMISE I'LL REPORT IT, UH, TO THIS FORUM.
YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? THANK YOU.
WHAT DO YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAY BE READY TO GO TO MARKET? EXCUSE ME.
QUESTION IS, WHAT DID YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAID THEY'LL BE READY TO GO TO MARKET? A POTENTIAL BUYER? UH, THAT, THAT IS THE GOAL COMMISSIONER DILL HUNT TO, TO DISPOSE OF THESE PRO UH, THESE PARCELS THROUGH THE SALE.
SO ANTICIPATE ON SELLING THEM.
ABOUT THE CONTINGENCY THAT YOU WAS HOLDING.
HAS THAT BEEN TOUCHED ON? THE CONTINGENCY IS STILL AT, AT OUR DISPOSAL.
UH, GEORGE AND I HAVE A, HAVE A BUDGET SIT DOWN, UH, SCHEDULED FOR LATER NEXT WEEK, UH, TO GO OVER NUMBERS AND I'LL MAKE SURE MY FEBRUARY REPORT, I PROVIDE FINANCIAL UPDATE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION? YEAH.
FOR, FOR EVERYTHING, FOR ALL OUR PROJECTS, UH, OPEN.
SO WE'LL, WE'LL BE READY FOR A REPORT AT THAT TIME.
UH, I THINK YOU SAID YOU ARE GOING TO TALK TO COMMUNITY ACTION.
DO YOU HAVE A REPORT OR ANY INFORMATION THAT YOU COULD GIVE US ON THAT? UH, ONLY WHEN I REPORTED LAST MONTH, WHICH WAS, UH, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND I, UH, WHO IS KATI HEAD, UH, HAD A MEETING IN LATE NOVEMBER.
UH, WE TOURED A COUPLE OF OUR PARCELS TALKED ABOUT PRIORITIES OF THE COMMISSION AND
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PRIORITIES OF COASTAL COMMUNITY ACTION.AND WE ARE DILIGENTLY WORKING ON FIGURING OUR PROJECT, UH, TO BRING TO THIS COMMISSION, UH, WHERE WE CAN PARTNER.
I DO BELIEVE THAT COASTAL COMMUNITY ACTION IS A VERY, VERY GOOD AND STRATEGIC PARTNER.
AND KASA HEAD IS VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN NEWBURY.
SO, UH, IT WAS, IT WAS A VERY PROMISING LEAD AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK ON, ON WHAT POTENTIAL THAT MIGHT HOLD FOR THE FUTURE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, MR. ALL RIGHT.
[15. Closed Session ]
AGENDA IS A CLOSED SESSION, AND I BELIEVE WE, UM, NEED TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS WHAT'S THE NUMBER,WHAT'S THE LEGAL NUMBER FOR THAT STATUTE 43.
DIDN'T REALIZE WE WERE GOING INTO CLUB SESSIONS TONIGHT.
PURSUANT TO NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL STATUTE 1 4 3 3 18, 11 A FIVE TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY.
GIVE A MINUTE FOR BIE TO WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT HERE.
WHAT DAY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT? THEY, THEY WAIT, WE ARE LIVE BECAUSE THEY'RE POLITICIANS.
IS THERE ANY ADDITIONAL BUSINESS BEFORE WE LEAVE? I THINK COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND IS LOOKING AT THE CALENDAR IN TERMS OF WHEN WE COULD HAVE A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN FEBRUARY.
UH, I WOULD JUST KIND OF EYEBALLING THINGS AND NOTICE, NOTICING THAT WE DO NOT HAVE A SCHEDULED MEETING IN FEBRUARY FOLLOWING THE CHANGE OF OUR, OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.
UH, JUST SO BUSINESS DOES NOT LANGUISH, UH, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MEETING IN FEBRUARY
[Additional Item]
SEEING THAT THE 14TH IS, UH, VALENTINE'S DAY.I WOULD MAKE A MOTION THAT WE SCHEDULE A REGULAR MEETING FOR FEBRUARY, THURSDAY, FEBRUARY THE 15TH.
MR. STRICKLAND, DID YOU MAKE THE ORIGINAL MOTION TO AMEND THE REGULAR SCHEDULED CALENDAR? I DID NOT.
WAS THAT MR. PARAGO? YES, YOUR HONOR.
SINCE WE'RE REVISITING THAT ACTION, IT MAY BE MORE APPROPRIATE IF MR. PARAGO IS INCLINED TO MAKE THAT MOTION.
SO DO YOU RESCIND YOUR MOTION MR. STRICKLAND? I RESCIND? NO, JUST COPIED THE SAME WAY.
'CAUSE I'M GONNA SAY SAME THING HE DID.
SO MR. STRICKLAND HAS RENDED HIS MOTION AND MR. PARAGUAY'S MOTION IS TO AMEND THE REGULAR SCHEDULE OF THE BOARD TO INCLUDE A STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION ON JANUARY 27TH AT 9:00 AM AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
DOING THE WHOLE TIME SHE'S DOING THE WHOLE THING.
AND TO ADD A REGULAR MEETING ON FEBRUARY 15TH AT 6:00 PM IN THE CITY HALL COURTROOM.
IS THAT YOUR MOTION, MR. PARAGO? UH, YEAH.
AND TO REMOVE THE PREVIOUSLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF FEBRUARY 17TH, THAT'S YOUR MOTION OF FEBRUARY 17TH.
EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND? IS THERE A SECOND? I'M SORRY.
I MOVED THE, YOU POSITIONED THAT THERE, STEVE.
I THINK THAT WAS VERY WELL DONE WITH, UH MM-HMM.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO KEEP A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY.
THE AYES HAVE IT AND THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND SO WE WILL HAVE A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING ON FEBRUARY 15TH.
AND JANUARY 27TH IS OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION, WHICH IS A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING IN OUR CALENDAR.
UM, IF THERE'S NO OTHER BUSINESS, CAN I, A MOTION TO ADJOURN? TO ADJOURNED.
OH, THANK YOU MR. COMMISSIONER HAM.
I WAS, I'M JUST WAITING FOR SOMEBODY ELSE.
HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO GET THEIR NAME ON THE, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND IF THERE'S, UM, ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
YOU SEE THERE'S SOME HEAD SHAKING THERE.
ALL OPPOSED? ALRIGHT, THE MOTION CARRIES AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.