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I CALLED A ORDER OF THE MARCH 21ST[I. CALL TO ORDER]
MEETING OF THE CITY OF NEW BERN PLANNING AND ZONING.UM, KENDRICK, CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
LET THE RECORD SHOW SHE'S ABSENT.
BOARD MEMBER ILUSO, LET THE RECORD SHOW HE'S ABSENT.
BOARD MEMBER MS. KELLY KAISER.
LET THE RECORD SHOW SHE'S ABSENT.
BOARD MEMBER BROWNELL HERE AND BOARD MEMBER BALLARD.
HERE WE HAVE A QUORUM AND YES, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
ALRIGHT, UH, WILL EVERYBODY PLEASE, UH, RISE AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO OUR COUNTRY.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIT AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
UM, SO I'M GONNA TAKE THE NEXT ITEM
[IV. CHAIRMAN’S REMARKS]
HERE FOR CHAIRMAN'S, UH, REMARKS IN JUST, UM, SPEAK, UH, BRIEFLY ON THE, UH, LAND USE ORDINANCE STEERING COMMITTEE THAT I'M, UH, UH, REPRESENTING THIS BOARD ON.UH, WE HAVE ONE OF THOSE, OUR FIRST ONE, UM, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
UM, AND IF YOU HAVEN'T YET, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, UM, THE ALDER MEETING ON FEBRUARY 27TH, ABOUT 10 MINUTES IN ON YOUTUBE.
UM, THE GENTLEMAN THAT'S RUNNING THAT PROJECT MANAGER GIVES A BRIEF TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND HE PRETTY WELL SUMS UP WHAT I GOT IN TWO HOURS.
HE DIDN'T 10 MINUTES, SO THAT WAS PRETTY GOOD.
UM, AND SO, UH, AND UM, YEAH, IT WAS TWO HOURS I WAS, AND, UH, I THINK IT WAS SCHEDULED FOR 30, SO IT WAS A GOOD THING.
I DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE GOING ON THAT AFTERNOON, SO, UM, BUT YEAH.
UM, ANYWAY, UH, REAL QUICK, UH, THE, WHAT PERTAINS TO THIS BOARD FOR NOW IS THAT, UH, HE'S GONNA HAVE SOME OFFICE HOURS WHEN HE'S IN TOWN.
UM, AND I WOULD WELCOME MEMBERS OF THE BOARD TO GO AND, UM, SPEAK WITH HIM DURING THOSE HOURS.
I'LL LET EVERYBODY KNOW WHEN HE'S HERE, UM, IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS OR IF YOU HAVE CONCERNS.
UM, I'D LIKE TO GET HIM MAYBE TO DO A BRIEF FOR US WHEN HE IS IN TOWN.
WE'LL, WE WILL PLAY THAT BY EAR MORNING HERE.
COULDN'T FIGURE OUT THE ELEVATOR.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A CLASS ON THE ELEVATOR.
UM, FOR, FOR, FOR MY REMARKS, UM, I DO THINK I NEED TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO LIMIT THE TIME ON THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
I MAKE A MOTION WE LIMIT THE PUBLIC COMMENT TO THREE MINUTES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[V. COMMENTS]
GONNA MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE.WE'RE GONNA, UH, LIMIT THAT TO THREE MINUTES.
THERE'S ONE DOWN HERE AND ON THE TVS.
UM, I'M, UH, PUT IN THIS PETITION TO FOR THE REZONING.
UM, WE'RE, UM, THE OWNERS OF THE OLD PENNEX CAFE.
AND, UM, WE ARE PLANNING ON DOING THE REZONING 'CAUSE WE'RE CURRENTLY NOT ALLOWED, UM, FOR OUTSIDE CONSUMPTION.
UM, AND WE HAVE BEEN ASKED FOR OUR PATRONS A LOT THAT WALK THEIR DOGS OR COME THERE WITH THEIR CHILDREN IN THE SUMMER.
THEY WOULD LIKE TO SIT OUTSIDE OR JUST HAVE A SPOT WHERE THEY CAN BRING THEIR DOGS, WHICH WE'RE LEGALLY NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE INSIDE BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING FOOD AND WE'RE HAVING AN OPEN KITCHEN.
SO FOR THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, THEY DON'T LIKE US TO HAVE ANIMALS AND SO WE'RE WANTING TO PROVIDE THEM A SPOT TO SIT AS WELL.
SO THEY COME IN, THEY WORK THEIR DOGS, COME OUT, SIT THERE, HAVE A TOAST CAFE OR ANYTHING ELSE.
AND THAT'S WHY WE PUT IN THE PETITION.
UH, NEXT PERSON IS LEANNE MCKAY.
HI, I'M LEANNE MCCABE AND I LIVE AT 7 0 9 RAZON, WHICH IS DIRECTLY A BLOCK BEHIND THE OLD PANICS.
AND WHILE IT'S A LOVELY STORE AND I'M VERY HAPPY THEY'RE DOING WELL, I DON'T WANT NOISE.
AND IF THERE ARE PEOPLE SITTING OUTSIDE,
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IT'S GONNA BE NOISY AND I'M GONNA BE IN MY BACKYARD AND I'M GONNA BE HERE IN THE NOISE.I DON'T LIVE IN A RESTAURANT ZONE I DIDN'T THINK WHEN I BOUGHT MY HOUSE, SO I'M JUST VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE NOISE.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU FOR COMING OUT.
I'M GEORGE BREAK AND, UH, I I HAVE A QUESTION.
UH, WHAT WOULD, UH, C FIVE ZONING PERMIT THAT IS NOT PERMITTED NOW? UM, THERE'S ALL SORTS OF RUMORS FLYING AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, NOBODY REALLY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
SO, COULD YOU ANSWER THAT QUESTION? UH, I CAN COMMENT ON THAT, PLEASE.
I, I'LL REFER TO KENDRICK, UM, JUST IN, IN REFERENCE TO WHAT IT ACTUALLY ALLOWS FOR.
CAN YOU HEAR ME? UH, BUT IN REFERENCE TO WHAT IT ALLOWS FOR, THERE'S A TABLE THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE IN OUR, WITHIN OUR LAND USE ORDINANCE, AND IT GIVES YOU A DESCRIPTION AS TO WHAT'S PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
OR ESSENTIALLY PERMITTED BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
I STILL CAN HERE YOU, I'M SORRY.
I HAVE A TABLE WITH ME AND I CAN GIVE YOU A TABLE.
UH, THAT YOU CAN SEE THE DIFFERENT USES THAT ARE ALLOWED TO ACTUALLY TAKE PLACE THERE.
AND NEXT WE'RE GONNA GO TO SAM.
UH, I'M AT FOUR 11 QUEEN STREET.
UM, THE NEIGHBORING TO THE LOT, UH, IN MY RESEARCH I HAVEN'T SEEN THE BUILDING IS ZONED COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL.
AND IS THERE SUPPOSED TO BE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FOR A RESTAURANT? SO IN RIGHT NOW, CURRENTLY IT'S OWNED AS C DASH FOUR, AND HE HAS THE ABILITY TO BE PERMITTED BY RIGHT.
IN TERMS OF THE RESTAURANT THAT HE CURRENTLY HAS.
IT'S JUST THE FACTOR, THE DIFFERENCE, I GUESS IS WHAT MR. STEVENS SAID.
THE CONSUMPTION OUTSIDE THE BUILDING AND CONSUMPTION IS NOT ALLOWED, UM, UNLESS BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT OUTSIDE THE BUILDING.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE PER RESTAURANT CO CODE.
ISN'T THERE SO MANY PARKING SPACES? THERE IS PARKING STANDARDS THAT ARE REQUIRED? UM, THAT WAS ACTUALLY REASSESSED.
UH, AS I CAN TELL YOU MYSELF PERSONALLY, UH, THROUGH STAFFING AND A PARKING LOT WAS ACTUALLY CREATED TO, UM, PROVIDE MORE SPACES AND TO BE CURRENT WITH WHAT THE USE IS FOR THIS.
THERE'S NOT JUST THAT STORE, IT'S, UH, THREE IN TOTAL ACTUALLY.
AND THE PARKING LOT IS WHERE, SO THEY HAVE ACTUALLY ADDRESSED THE, SOME OF THE PARKING, UM, WELL, NOT SOME, BUT IN TERMS OF THE THREE DIFFERENT STORES THAT ARE THERE, THEY MADE ACTUAL GRAVEL PARKING LOT, WHICH IN ACCORDANCE WITH OUR ORDINANCE, THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SO AS LONG AS IT DOESN'T EXCEED SIX SPACES, THEY ADDED THOSE SPACES.
AND IN THE DIFFERENT TIMEFRAMES THAT THESE STORES OPERATE, THERE ARE OTHER SPACES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR EACH STORE OR, UH, ESSENTIALLY EACH STORE CAN OCCUPY SO MANY SPACES AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT RUNNING SIMULTANEOUSLY.
SO IF THIS PASSES AND WE GO OUTSIDE, THEN WHAT HAPPENS WITH PARKING? AND MY CONCERN IS, IS WE, OUR DRIVEWAY'S BEEN BLOCKED SEVERAL TIMES.
AND I'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THAT.
SO THE PARKING SHOULD BE SETTLED AT THIS TIME BASED ON WHAT THEY'VE DONE CURRENTLY, THEY UPGRADED THEIR ACTUAL PARKING LOT, UM, TO THE GRAVEL SPACES.
AND SO BASICALLY THEY'VE ALREADY SATISFIED THE REQUIREMENT, BUT IF THIS PASSES, WHAT HAPPENS? SO THE ONLY THING THAT WOULD CHANGE ULTIMATELY, UM, IS THE FACTOR OF BEING ABLE TO CONSUME OUTSIDE OF, UH, WHERE HE'S CURRENTLY AT RIGHT NOW, BASED ON THE C FOUR AND ZONING DISTRICT DESIGNATION, IT TAKES A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
THEY OR THE APPLICANT'S ELECTED TO DO A REZONING, WHICH WOULD PERMIT HIM BY RIGHT.
UM, NOW IF THINGS IN THE FUTURE, UH, IF HE ADDS MORE TABLES OR DECIDES TO EXPAND ON THE CURRENT USE, PARKING HAS TO BE REASSESSED.
SO, OR IF A DIFFERENT USE TAKES PLACE IN THAT STRUCTURE, IT HAS TO BE REASSESSED AGAIN.
AND SO WILL ALCOHOL BE SERVED OUTSIDE? COVERED IN, IN THE EVENT THAT HE RECEIVES THE REZONING, BUT HE STILL HAS TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AFTER THIS, UH, POINT AS WELL.
THIS ISN'T THE, THE COMPLETION OF THE REZONING.
SO YEAH, MY, MY OBJECTION'S REALLY THE PARKING SITUATION AND IF ALCOHOL'S GONNA BE USED OUTSIDE WITH CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
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IT, IT'S ALREADY PRETTY DANGEROUS THERE WITH THE TRAIN TRACKS.I MEAN THAT'S, THAT WE CAN'T CONTROL.
SIR, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT MISSED THE SIGNUP SHEET THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? QUESTIONS? UM, SURE.
SO FOR NOISE? YEAH, UP, UP HERE.
IT'S, YOU'RE ON VIDEOTAPE AND THE WHOLE THING.
SO FOR THE, FOR THE NOISE, UM, WE ALSO CONSIDERED THAT AND WE
AND WE'RE PLANNING ON PUTTING IN, UM, SHRUBS ALL THE WAY, I GUESS LIKE A BUSHES ALL THE WAY AROUND THE PROPERTY.
UM, WE'RE HAVING, UM, THAT APPROVED BY THE HISTORIC SOCIETY RIGHT NOW, UM, AND TO LIKE DIM IN THE NOISE.
AND ALSO WE WOULD LIMIT THE HOURS, UM, WHERE PEOPLE CAN SIT OUTSIDE.
UM, OUR MAIN TOPIC RIGHT NOW IS REALLY FOR THE DAYTIME, UM, WHEN PEOPLE WALK THEIR DOGS AND COME BY BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THEY WALK BY AND THEY CAN'T COME IN.
UM, AND ALSO WE CANNOT HAVE SEATING IN THE BACK OR IN THE FRONT RIGHT NOW WITH THAT ZONING.
AND THAT'S OUR MAIN REASON WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS.
I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
AND FOR THE PARKING, CAN YOU ASK ANOTHER QUESTION IF WE CAN HAVE ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME? MR. CHAIR? UH, YEAH.
I'LL LET YOU COME UP QUICKLY ONCE HE'S DONE.
SO WE HAVE, UM, KENDRICK TOLD US WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR PARKING SPOTS, SO WE HAVE THIS SEPARATED, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO PUT A FENCE IN ONCE WE GET THE APPROVAL FROM THE HISTORIC SOCIETY FOR THAT ONE AS WELL, FOR THE, I FORGOT THE RIGHT.
UM, AND THIS IS GONNA BE PUT IN, SO THIS WILL BE THE SEPARATION FROM THE ACTUAL PARKING LOT, WHICH WILL BE ON THE PREMISES AND THEN THE OUTSIDE AREA WHERE PEOPLE WILL BE ABLE TO SIT.
I'M SORRY, I'M JUST A LITTLE CONFUSED BECAUSE I'VE HEARD MR. CHAIR SPEAKERS GONNA DIRECT THEIR COMMENTS.
AGAIN, YOU HAVE TO SPEAK TO, TO, UH, YOU'RE, YOU'RE COMMENTING TO THE BOARD.
I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED ALSO BECAUSE I'VE HEARD SEVERAL DIFFERENT SCENARIOS OF WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
I'VE HEARD CORNHOLE AND FAMILY FRIENDLY GAMES.
I'VE HEARD FOOD AND BEVERAGES OUTSIDE.
UM, AND I'M JUST REALLY, REALLY NERVOUS THAT THE NEXT THING ON THE LIST IS GONNA BE LIVE MUSIC AND, UM, THAT WILL BE VERY NOISY.
AND I ALSO WONDER ABOUT THE BISHOP'S HOME, WHICH IS RIGHT NEXT DOOR.
UM, AND I, I DON'T KNOW THAT ANYBODY EVEN KNEW THAT THIS HEARING WAS TAKING PLACE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW ANYBODY IN MY NE I DON'T SEE ANYBODY EXCEPT ONE NEIGHBOR HERE.
AND I KNOW THAT OTHER PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY ABOUT IT AND I JUST THINK IT'S KIND OF ODD THAT USUALLY WE GET NOTICES FROM HYDRA AND OF WHAT'S BEING DISCUSSED AND NOTHING.
I JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT BY A FLUKE, SO THANK YOU.
WELL, UH, JUST, JUST ONE POINT, HYDRA IS, IS A PRIVATE ORGANIZATION.
UM, I BELIEVE KENDRICK YOU ADVERTISED A HUNDRED FEET YES, SIR.
SO IT GOES A HUNDRED FEET WITHIN THE, UH, PROPERTY LINES ESSENTIALLY.
SO THOSE WITHIN THAT AREA OR THAT BUFFER ZONE WOULD'VE RECEIVED A LETTER OR SHOULD HAVE BASED ON THE LIST THAT GOT GENERATED.
AND, AND ALSO JUST ONE OTHER POINT OF CLARITY THAT, UM, WE ARE AN ADMINISTRATIVE BODY, OUR RECOMMENDATION OR LACK OF RECOMMENDATION, HOWEVER THE VOTE GOES, WE'LL GO TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND THEY ULTIMATELY DECIDE THE ZONING.
SO, UM, I, I WELCOME, UH, TO, TO SPEAK TO YOUR NEIGHBORS OR HYDRA OR HOWEVER YOU GUYS WANNA DO IT.
IF, IF MORE PEOPLE WANT TO COMMENT DURING THAT TIME, UM, CITIZENS WILL WELCOME THERE WILL BE A A TIME FOR THAT COMMENT.
ANYBODY ELSE? ALRIGHT, UH, WITH NO PUBLIC COMMENT, AND IT'S NOT ON THIS AGENDA, I'M JUST GONNA BRIEFLY OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE LAND USE ORDINANCE OR SCHEDULING OR ANYTHING ELSE? ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO, UM, I, I'D LIKE TO, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED WITH IN THE PAST ABOUT THE PARKING WORKING GROUP, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
UM, DO WE HAVE A WAY FORWARD YET, MR. CHAIRMAN, ON SETTING SOMETHING LIKE THAT UP? IS THERE SOMETHING WE NEED TO DO IN THE INTERIM? OFFICIALLY, THAT IS AN EXCELLENT QUESTION AND I MEANT TO ASK, UM, KENDRICK ABOUT THIS ARE RULES AND PROCEDURES, WHERE ARE WE AT ON THAT? SO RIGHT NOW, MR. CHAIRMAN, THE RULES AND PROCEDURES UNFORTUNATELY WILL HAVE TO BE, UM, PROBABLY A LITTLE BIT LONGER, UH, IN TERMS OF GETTING THAT TOGETHER.
HOWEVER, I INTEND TO SEND YOU A COUPLE DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS THAT PERTAIN TO SOME OTHER RULES AND PROCEDURES FOR DIFFERENT CITIES.
AND JUST TO GET AN EVALUATION FROM THIS BOARD IN TERMS OF WHAT
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THEY MAY BE LOOKING AT AND WHAT MIGHT BE CONCERNING OR NOT BE CONCERNING, WHAT YOU MAY OR MAY NOT BE FOR.SO THAT WE CAN TRY TO COMPILE AND KIND OF COMPOSE THAT AS WELL.
AND IN THAT RULES AND PROCEDURES, WILL THERE BE A WAY OR HOW WE GO ABOUT FORMING WORKING GROUPS, IS THERE THAT, OR IS THERE A WAY ON DOING THAT? THAT CAN BE A POINT OF EMPHASIS TO LOOK AT? WE CAN ABSOLUTELY DO THAT.
I DON'T WANT TO SPEAK, UH, KIND OF BEFORE ACTUALLY SURE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT DIRECTLY, BUT WE CAN DEFINITELY TAKE A LOOK INTO THAT.
UM, I, I KNOW MR. INGRAM HAS, UM, EXPRESSED A LOT OF INTEREST IN, IN, I, I THINK THE WAY FORWARD NOW IS TO GO DOWN THE WORKING GROUP ROUTE.
UM, BUT, UH, THAT'S FOR, UH, UH, A BROADER DISCUSSION OR FIGURING HOW THE BEST WAY OF DOING THAT IS.
SO JAMIE, HOW DOES THE HPC SET UP WORK GROUPS? IS THERE SOME LANGUAGE WE COULD STEAL FROM THEM? POSSIBLY.
AND MADAM DIRECTOR, THAT'S A VERY FINE POINT.
THERE ARE SEVERAL CITIZEN BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN THAT HAVE RULES OF PROCEDURES.
UM, THEIR PROCEDURES VARY DEPENDING ON THEIR PURPOSE AND THEIR SCOPE AND THEIR STATUTORY AUTHORITY.
SO I'M HAPPY TO SHARE SOME OF THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE HPC, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, UM, BOTH OF THOSE ENTITIES HAVE PATHWAYS TO DO WORKING GROUPS AND THE PATHWAYS ARE DIFFERENT.
UM, SO THERE'S SOME FLAVORS RIGHT HERE LOCALLY THAT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO BENEFIT FROM.
AND AND TO THAT POINT, I MEAN, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS IN THE PAST ABOUT WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY ALLOWED TO DO? MM-HMM.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE RULES AND PROCEDURES, MAYBE THE FRONT PART OF THAT DOCUMENT, DOCUMENT EXACTLY WHAT THIS BOARD IS ALLOWED TO DO.
BECAUSE IF YOU READ, I'VE READ THROUGH THE STATUTES AND THANK YOU FOR PROVIDING ALL THAT INFORMATION, THE ORDINANCES AND THE STATE STATUTES ABOUT IT.
THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT WE COULD DO IF WE CHOSE TO.
UM, BUT, YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT IN THE RULES AND PROCEDURES AND FIGURE IT OUT AS A BOARD WHAT WE WANT TO DO.
ANYTHING ELSE? THE ONLY OTHER QUESTION I HAD WAS MINUTES, AND I KNOW THIS IS AN ODD POINT, BUT I KNOW I, I CHECKED THE WEBSITE MINUTES.
I THINK WE STOPPED HAVING MINUTES ON THE WEBSITE LIKE IN SEPTEMBER.
THE MINUTES HAVE BEEN CHALLENGING JUST TO KIND OF COMMENT ON THAT.
UH, WE ARE ACTIVELY STILL WORKING THROUGH TRYING TO SEE IF WE CAN ACCOMMODATE.
AS LONG AS IT'S NOT BEEN FORGOTTEN, THEN THAT'S FINE.
I KNOW YOU GUYS ARE BUSY, SO I GET IT.
UM, LET'S MOVE ON FROM THAT TO ITEM
[VI.A. 624 Hancock Street & 413 Queen Street Rezoning]
NUMBER SIX A, THE 6 24 HANCOCK STREET AND FOUR 13 QUEEN STREET PREZONING.KENDRICK, DO YOU HAVE A PRESENTATION FOR US? ALRIGHT.
AND JUST TO START OFF, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR AND TO THE BOARD.
AND I KNOW THERE'S KIND OF BEEN SOME PREVIOUS DISCUSSION ALREADY, BUT THIS IS THE ACTUAL PRESENTATION FOR THIS ITEM.
SO THIS IS THE REZONING, UH, 0 0 2 8 3 9 20 24.
AND THIS IS FOR 6 24 HANCOCK STREET AND FOUR 13 QUEEN STREET, UH, REZONING.
SO THE APPLICANT IS MR. STEVEN LITE AND THEN THE OWNER IS C-S-R-L-L-C, UH, LLC AND THE LOCATION IS 6 24 HANCOCK STREET AND FOUR 13 QUEEN STREET.
CURRENT ZONING IS, UH, COMMERCIAL.
KEN, CAN YOU GIMME JUST A LITTLE MORE VOLUME? OH, SURE.
LEMME SEE IF I CAN, I, I APOLOGIZE.
LEMME SEE IF I CAN BRING THIS UP THERE.
ALRIGHT, SO THE CURRENT ZONING COMMERCIAL FOUR, UH, C DASH FOUR FOR ABBREVIATION AND THE PROPOSED ZONING HERE IS COMMERCIAL FIVE A, UH, C DASH FIVE A AND THEN THE PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBERS HAVE BEEN EIGHT DASH ARE IDENTIFIED AS EIGHT DASH 0 0 3 DASH 28 AND EIGHT DASH 0 0 3 2 8 0 0 0.
THE SIZE IS 0.37 TOTAL ACRES ROUGHLY.
AND THE COMMERCIAL FOUR ZONING DISTRICT ANALYSIS, THIS IS DIRECTLY FROM THE LAND USE ORDINANCE AND BASICALLY JUST GIVES A DESCRIPTION.
UM, AS FAR AS FOR NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESSES, UH, THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT ITS PURPOSE IS, UH, TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THOSE RETAILING OR STYLE OF GOODS AND SERVICES ESSENTIALLY.
AND THE COMMERCIAL FIVE A, UH, ZONING DISTRICT ANALYSIS, SIMILAR IN SOME NATURES, UM, BUT IT REFERENCES ALSO TO ALLOW FOR, I GUESS MORE PROFESSIONAL OFFICES, MUSEUMS, UM, ALSO INSTITUTIONAL TYPE OF, UH, BUSINESSES AS WELL.
SO IT'S KIND OF ADDED IN, IN A WAY, BUT THEY'RE, THEY'RE SIMILAR IN TASTE IF YOU WILL.
SO, AND JUST TO PROVIDE THAT USES COMPARISON HERE.
YOU HAVE ON THE LEFT HAND SIDE, UH, COMMERCIAL FOUR C DASH FOUR, AND YOU HAVE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE COMMERCIAL FIVE
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A, UM, THE C DASH FIVE A.AND BASICALLY THERE'S SOME REFERENCES FOR THE RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR SUCH AS, I'LL JUST GIVE A QUICK EXAMPLE.
SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, BOTH PERMITTED BY RIGHT IN ACCORDANCE WITH COMMERCIAL FOUR AND COMMERCIAL FIVE A.
AND THEN IF YOU SLIDE DOWN TO THE NON-RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, I'LL KIND OF JUST TOUCH ON ONE IN PARTICULAR.
THE NO SUBSTANTIAL CARRYOUT SERVICE, NO DRIVE-IN SERVICE OR, UH, OR EXCUSE ME, SERVICE OR CONSUMPTION OUTSIDE FULLY ENCLOSED STRUCTURE ALLOWED.
THAT IS A SPECIAL USE CURRENTLY IN THE C FOUR ZONING DISTRICT.
WHEN YOU FLIP TO THE COMMERCIAL FIVE A SIDE, THAT IS ACTUALLY PERMITTED BY, RIGHT.
SO IN THE CONSIDERATION, UM, THE PROPOSED REZONING INVOLVES TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE CURRENTLY BOTH ZONE COMMERCIAL AND ESSENTIALLY THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL, OR EXCUSE ME, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT.
THEY ALSO, UH, ARE INDUSTRIAL TWO, THERE ARE SEVERAL DISTRICTS ACTUALLY INDUSTRIAL TWO, COMMERCIAL FOUR COMMERCIAL, FIVE RESIDENTIAL, UH, SIX HERE.
AND THEN YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL EIGHT.
SO YOU HAVE A MIXTURE OF ZONING DISTRICTS THAT SURROUND THIS PROPERTY, SOME COMMERCIAL, SOME RESIDENTIAL.
UM, IT MAY BE CONSIDERED REASONABLE, UH, AS FAR AS FOR SOME OF THE ADJACENT COMMERCIAL ZONING REGARDING THE REQUEST BY THE APPLICANT TO GO FROM C FOUR C DASH FIVE A AND IF THE BOARD HAS ANY, OR EXCUSE ME, UM, THE ACTUALLY FINISH HERE FOR THE SUBJECT PROPERTY, HERE'S THE ACTUAL PICTURE FOR THE PROPERTY WITH THE SIGN POSTED AS WELL.
AND ACTUALLY WE HAVE A BUFFER MAP.
THIS IS THE RADIUS ESSENTIALLY THAT WOULD'VE BEEN TOUCHED FOR THE A HUNDRED FOOT NOTICE REQUIREMENT.
SO ANY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE WITHIN THAT SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE NOTICE.
AND HERE YOU HAVE THE VICINITY MAP FOR THE ACTUAL PARCELS AND THAT'S FOLLOWED BY THE AERIAL.
UM, AND THIS AGAIN IS HIGHLIGHTED IN RED.
AND LASTLY, THE ZONING MAP, WHICH REFLECTS ALL THOSE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT I JUST TOUCHED ON.
AND THEN, UM, THE ACTIONS NEEDED ESSENTIALLY WOULD BE TO ADOPT A CONSISTENCY STATEMENT AND THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
AND IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME, I CAN TRY TO TAKE THOSE, THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? ALRIGHT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
UH, KENDRICK, CAN YOU, I'M SORRY, COULD YOU GO BACK TO THE ZONING MAP PLEASE? THANK YOU.
IS THAT, IS THIS WHAT WILL THIS, WAIT,
THAT'S WHAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT AND THE YEAH, THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO PROPERTIES THAT ARE C FIVE ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT? YES SIR.
ARE THOSE RESIDENCES CURRENTLY? I ACTUALLY DID NOT SEE AS TO WHETHER THOSE ARE RESIDENCES OR IF THEY HAVE COMMERCIAL USES.
THERE IS MORE IF YOU, UH, BRING THIS MAP OUT FURTHER.
THERE IS A WHOLE SECTION OF C FIVE ACTUALLY THAT IS ON THAT SIDE.
I DO NOT KNOW THE SPECIFIC USES FOR EACH ONE.
IT JUST SEEMS LIKE THERE'S, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF RESIDENTIAL AROUND IT.
THERE ABSOLUTELY IS RESIDENTIAL THAT IS, UH, ACTUALLY A BUDDING IT TO THE, UM, EASTERN SIDE, NORTHEASTERN.
UM, AND YOU'VE ALSO, YOU'VE GOT, LIKE I SAID, A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT DISTRICTS THAT ARE KIND OF SURROUNDING THESE TWO PROPERTIES.
ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK OR ANYBODY ELSE FROM THE BOARD? UM, OKAY THEN I WILL, UM, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
AND MR. CHAIR, IN THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL, THE FIRST MOTION THAT YOU MIGHT ENTERTAIN IS REGARDING THE CONSISTENCY AND REASONABLE REQUEST STATEMENT.
WE HAVE TO DO, HAVE TO DO TWO MOTIONS, RIGHT? THE CONSISTENCY AND THEN THE RECOMMENDATION.
SO I WILL RECOMMEND A OR I WILL, UH, ASK FOR A, UM, ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON CONSISTENCY OR INCONSISTENCY.
AND THE CONSISTENCY STATEMENT SPECIFICALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE LAND USE ORDINANCE.
CONSISTENCY, COMPATIBILITY WITH ADJACENT LAND USES CONSISTENCY WITH ADOPTED CITY LAND USE PLANS AND THAT IT'S REASONABLE.
AND THE, I MEAN BASICALLY WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS THE REASON FOR THE REZONING IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO SERVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE THE RESTAURANT.
IN THE BACK OF THE RESTAURANT.
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REZONING APPLICATIONS, YOU MUST CONSIDER ALL POSSIBLE USES CORRECT.WITHIN THE VARIOUS ZONING DESIGNATIONS.
BUT I CAN, IT IS, ISN'T IT POSSIBLE WE CAN STILL CONSIDER THE, THE USE THAT'S BEING PROPOSED AS ONE OF THE, AS ONE OF POTENTIAL USES? YES.
BUT IN, IN THE SPIRIT OF A FULL ANALYSIS, YOU WANT TO CONSIDER EACH OF THE POSSIBLE USES IN THE VARIOUS CLASSIFICATIONS.
SO, UM, CAN WE BRING UP THAT SLIDE THAT COMPARES THE TWO? YEAH.
CAN WE GO BACK TO THE C FOUR AND C FIVE? I WAS ABOUT TO ASK THE SAME QUESTION AND, AND THE REASON I SAY THAT MR. INGRAM IS IF THE PROPERTY WERE TO BE SOLD OR OTHERWISE CONVEYED, THAT ZONING WOULD ATTACH.
SO THE USE COULD CHANGE TO ANY OF THE USES THAT ARE EITHER PERMITTED BY RIGHT OR BY SPECIALTY USE PERMIT IN THAT ZONING DESIGNATION.
AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED AS A CHANGE IN ZONING, NOT A CHANGE IN USE.
AND BEFORE YOU USE THAT ILLUSTRATION, AND, AND I KNOW THAT YOU ALL ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE TABLE OF PERMISSIBLE USES, UM, BUT THE DESIGNATIONS THERE WITH A Z AS IN ZEBRA ARE USES THAT ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT VERSUS THE S ON YOUR SCREEN, WHICH INDICATES USES THAT ARE BY SPECIAL USE PERMIT ONLY.
WELL, JUST AS A POINT OF DISCUSSION, I MEAN, CONSIDERING THE AMOUNT OF RESIDENTIAL THAT'S AROUND IT, UM, ALLOWING FOR THE USES UNDER C FIVE A IN MY OPINION IS NOT APPROPRIATE.
JUST TO LET THE BOARD KNOW THAT'S THE WAY I FEEL ABOUT IT.
IS THAT A MOTION? UM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DECLINE THE, UH, REZONING APPLICATION OR THAT WE RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO NOT WE'RE DOING THE CONSISTENCY FIRST.
DO I HAVE TO DO THE CONSISTENCY IF IT'S NOT CONSISTENT? YEAH.
SO MR. INGRAM IS YOUR MOTION THAT THE BOARD FIND THAT THE REZONING APPLICATION IS NOT CONSISTENT WITH ADJACENT LAND USES AND NOT REASONABLE? I THINK YOU HAVE TWO BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
SO THAT'S THE MOTION THAT, THAT I, THE MOTION IS THAT WE FIND IT NOT CONSISTENT AND NOT APPROPRIATE FOR THE ZONING AROUND IT.
IS THAT REASONABLE? IF THAT'S YOUR MOTION.
DO I HAVE A SECOND TO THAT MOTION? I'LL SECOND IT.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND I'M GONNA ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE.
START WITH, UH, BOARD MEMBER DEAR.
SO I, I AGREE WITH THEIR, UH, PROPOSAL.
IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE IS TO AGREE WITH THE MOTION? YES.
BOARD MEMBER, I'M JUST CALLING FOR THE RECORD.
KELLY KAISER, ABSENT BOARD MEMBER BROWNOUT NO.
THE NEXT MOTION THAT YOU WANT TO ENTERTAIN IS, OH, I HAVE TO DO THE OTHER IS WHAT YOU RECOMMEND OR DO NOT RECOMMEND.
I BELIEVE THAT WE, THAT WE DO NOT RECOMMEND, UH, APPROVAL OF THIS REZONING APPLICATION BY THE BOARD OF ALL.
AND SECOND, I WILL DO ANOTHER ROLL CALL VOTE.
BOARD MEMBER RUSTY INGRAM? YES.
AND THEN BOARD MEMBER KELLY KAISER.
[VI.B. Land Use Ordinance Text Amendment]
B, LAND USE ORDINANCE, TEXT AMENDMENT.YOU GUYS HAVE A BRIEF ON THAT ONE? YES.
UH, I'LL GIVE YOU A QUICK EXPLANATION OF THIS ITEM.
I WAS LIKE, THIS HAS GONE BROKE.
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UH, GOOD EVENING.I AM, WE HAVE BEEN REFERRED SOMETHING BACK TO US TO REEVALUATE FROM THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN IN LIEU OF A, UH, STAFF REPORT ON THIS.
YOU HAVE RECEIVED A COPY OF THE EMAIL IN YOUR PACKET.
SENT KENDRICK SENT OUT DIRECTING US WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED US TO DO AT THEIR LAST BOARD OF ALDERMAN MEETING.
UM, THEY HAD QUESTIONS ON THE BOUNDARY OF THE CENTRAL RETAIL COURT, WHICH OF COURSE IS THE AREA WE STUDIED FOR A GOOD PART OF LAST YEAR.
THAT, UM, EXEMPTS PARKING REQUIREMENTS JUST AS A LITTLE BIT OF A REFRESHER, UH, WE DID HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT ISSUE ON OCTOBER 10TH.
WHAT WE, AT THIS BOARD'S LEVEL RECOMMENDED TO THEM, UM, INCLUDED A BOUNDARY THAT INCLUDED THE CONVENTION CENTER THAT GOT DROPPED OUT OF THERE, UH, WITH THE THOUGHT BEING LIKE THE OTHER LARGE PARCELS IN THERE.
UM, PERHAPS IF THAT WAS TO BECOME REDEVELOPED, WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS STILL HELD TO PARKING STANDARDS AND THEY WERE, UH, VERY SERIOUS ABOUT MAINTAINING THE EXISTING PARKING THAT WE HAD.
AND WE HAD TOYED BACK AND FORTH FOR SEVERAL MONTHS WITH LANGUAGE THAT POSSIBLY GAVE APPLICANTS AN OUT TO GO TO THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT IF AT SOME POINT THEY WANTED TO REDUCE THE PARKING SPACES THAT EXISTED ON OCTOBER 10TH.
AND, UM, WE, WE ELIMINATED THAT OPTION.
SO THE PARKING THAT IS IN THIS AREA PERPETUALLY STAYS.
AND THAT'S WHERE WE GOT, AND WE INCLUDED A COPY OF WHAT WAS ADOPTED FOR YOUR REVIEW THERE.
SO THIS IS WHAT OUR MAP LOOKS LIKE OF THE CENTRAL RETAIL CORE AFTER, UH, THE SURGERY WE DID ON IT LAST YEAR.
SO THIS, THIS HAS BEEN WHAT HAS BEEN USED SINCE OCTOBER 10TH.
IT REFLECTS KIND OF WHAT I JUST DESCRIBED.
REMEMBER WE USED TO GO TO CRAVEN STREET AND STOP AND WE USED TO GO TO THE NORTH SIDE OF SOUTH FRENCH STREET AND STOP.
AND SO THIS IS AFTER THOSE AMENDMENTS WERE MADE.
WHAT, WHAT IS CONSIDERED THE CENTRAL RETAIL CORE RIGHT NOW.
WHAT THEY HAVE ASKED US WAS SPECIFICALLY TO LOOK AT A PROPERTY THAT IS JUST SOUTH OF THIS BOUNDARY HERE.
AND KENDRA, CAN YOU HELP MOVE ME? ACTUALLY MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ONE FOR ME PLEASE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT RED HATCHED AREA, THAT'S ONE 19 MIDDLE STREET.
THEY HAD QUESTIONS ON WHY THIS WAS EXEMPTED.
UM, WHEN WE LOOKED AT THIS MAP, UH, WE WERE PRIMARILY LOOKING AT COMMERCIAL USES AND WE DIDN'T GET INTO THE SINGLE FAMILY USES THIS, THIS IS WHAT THAT PROPERTY WAS BEING USED FOR AND IS BEING USED FOR AT THAT TIME.
THERE'S SEVERAL OTHERS AROUND THERE.
IF YOU'LL ADVANCE TWO SLIDES FOR ME PLEASE.
THAT ARE IN A VERY SIMILAR SITUATION WHERE THEY ARE JUST ADJACENT TO THIS BOUNDARY AND THEY WOULD LIKE US TO CONSIDER WHETHER OR NOT IT IS APPROPRIATE TO INCLUDE, UM, EITHER ONE OR ALL THREE OF THOSE PROPERTIES IN THIS BOUNDARY.
AND THEY HAVE CALLED FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS TO TAKE PLACE AND WOULD LIKE YOUR INPUT ON, IF YOU LIKE THIS OPTION TWO THAT INCLUDES ALL THREE OR THE PREVIOUS OPTION THAT JUST INCLUDES ONE 19.
UM, SO THAT, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE BEING ASKED TO DISCUSS THIS EVENING.
SEE IF I CAN MOVE THIS HERE THAT YOU CAN MAKE, UH, OF COURSE WE HAVE TO MAKE A CONSISTENCY STATEMENT.
JAMIE HAS DRAFTED UP SOME LANGUAGE THAT PROPOSAL ONE ADDS IN ONE 19 PROPOSAL TWO ADDS IN THE THREE SIMILAR PAR PARCELS ONE 19 AND THE TWO OTHERS.
UM, OR YOU CAN STAND BY, UH, YOUR RECOMMENDATION NOT TO CHANGE THE BOUNDARY.
SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR DISCUSSION ON TONIGHT.
I'M HAPPY TO TRY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THIS BEFORE YOU START DOING THAT.
SO ONE 19 WAS, WAS A RESIDENCE PREVIOUSLY, AND I KNOW THERE'S BEEN DISCUSSION, BUT WAS IT, IS IT ZONED C ONE, C TWO OR C TWO? UH, HONESTLY I CAN'T SPECIFICALLY RECALL WHAT IT'S CURRENTLY ZONED RIGHT NOW.
IT'S MOST LIKELY PROBABLY C ONE OR C TWO.
I THOUGHT ALL OF DOWNTOWN WAS EITHER C IT'S IN THE OR CHC AREA AND THAT'S WHAT IT C AREA, SO IT'S GONNA BE C ONE OR C TWO.
AND SO OF COURSE USED AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, IT'S EXEMPTED FROM HAVING THE PARKING SPACES RIGHT, RIGHT.
AND ONE OF OUR, UM, GOALS WAS TO ENSURE WE WERE RE PROVIDING THE ABILITY TO, UH, PRESERVE OUR HISTORIC BUILDINGS AND KEEP THEM USABLE.
UM, IT IS USABLE AS A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, BUT IT, IF IT IS TO CHANGE TO ANOTHER USE, IT WOULD HAVE, UM, REQUIRE MORE PARKING SPACES SURROUNDED COMPLETELY BY COMMERCIAL
AND SO THEY'RE LOOKING AT BUILDING WHETHER YOU WOULD RECOMMEND OR NOT RECOMMEND AFFORDING THOSE THREE ADDITIONAL PIECES, THE SAME BENEFITS THAT ARE ENJOYED BY THE REST OF THE CENTRAL RETAIL COURT.
WELL, BUT ONE 15 AND ONE 17 ARE CURRENTLY BEING USED AS COMMERCIAL SPACES.
AND THEY HAVE PARKING BEHIND THEM.
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AND THE THOUGHT PROCESS WAS TO KEEP THAT LINE TO, TO, TO, IF YOU WOULD CHOOSE.I'M JUST ASKING INCLUDE THOSE.
SO IF THEY WERE TO CHANGE USES, WE WOULDN'T CHECK THE PARKING.
IF YOU PULLED THEM IN, THEY WOULD ENJOY THE BENEFIT OF THE CENTRAL RETAIL CORE EXEMPTION.
WELL, I I JUST FROM MY VIEW OF THIS, THERE'S NOT SIMILARLY SITUATED AB AND THAT'S WHY YOU HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS BEFORE YOU.
AND ONE 19 HAS NO PARKING ASSOCIATED WITH IT.
UM, ZERO ZERO, UH, EXPECT EXCEPT THE TWO SPACES ON THE STREET, BUT 1, 9, 1 17 AND ONE 15 HAVE 32 SPACES BEHIND THE TWO BUILDINGS.
SO THEY ARE THOSE SKY SALE OR ARE THOSE NO ELSE? THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE SPECIFIC FOR, UH, EDWARD JONES.
AND THEN THE HOUSE AT ONE 19, UM, YOU KNOW, IF YOU EVER WANT TO USE IT FOR COMMERCIAL PURPOSES, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY PARKING.
SO, AND, AND MR. CHAIR, JUST TO, AS A POINT OF CLARITY, IF YOU MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THE BOUNDARY FOR THE CENTRAL RETO RETAIL COURT AT ALL PER THE ORDINANCE AND PER THE DRAFT THAT ARE BEFORE YOU, ANY EXISTING STRUCTURES WOULD HAVE TO MAINTAIN THE PARKING THAT THEY HAVE.
RIGHT? THEY CAN'T DIMINISH IT.
UM, SO IF THERE'S A SUBSEQUENT CHANGE IN USE THAT REQUIRES A GREATER LEVEL OF PARKING, THEY MAY FIND THEMSELVES IN DIFFICULTY IF YOU DON'T EXPAND THE BOUNDARY.
BUT IF YOU DO EXPAND THE BOUNDARY, THEY'RE NOT GOING TO LOSE ANY PARKING SPACES, IF THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.
WHEN DID THE OTHER TWO PROPERTIES START BEING DISCUSSED? 'CAUSE I KNOW I HAD DISCUSSIONS ON THE, THE HOUSE, UM, WITH PEOPLE.
UM, BUT I I DIDN'T KNOW THAT THE OTHER TWO IS THAT I JUST MISSED IT.
IS THAT A, A NEW UPDATE? I HAVE NOT HAD DISCUSSIONS ON THAT, BUT IT'S DRAFTED AS AN OPTION FOR YOU DUE TO THE GEOGRAPHY.
AND CHAIRMAN, I HAVE HAD ANY DISCUSSIONS PERTAINING TO THOSE TWO PROPERTIES EITHER.
AND, AND I WILL TELL YOU, MR. CHAIR, IN MY DRAFTING OF ORDINANCES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION FOR THAT OF THE BOARD, I NOTICED THOSE TWO PROPERTIES TO THE SOUTH.
UM, SO THEY'RE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT FOR CONSIDERATION AND YOU KNOW, AFTER YOU HAVE YOUR DISCUSSION AND CONSIDER ALL THE FACTORS, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ADOPT THAT OPTION OR NOT.
YEAH, JUST I, UM, I MEAN I, I DROVE DOWN THERE TO LOOK AT THE PARTICULAR PROPERTY.
I DIDN'T LOOK AT THE OTHER ONES 'CAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THOSE.
UM, SO, UM, YEAH, NO, I DON'T LIKE THAT.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE DIFFERENT PROPOSALS.
UM, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION ON THESE ITEMS. WELL, I, I, I THINK SINCE THE ORDINANCE WAS PUT INTO PLACE TO EXPAND THE BOUNDARY, IT PUTS ONE 19 IN A DIFFICULT SITUATION TO, YOU KNOW, TO REMAIN AS A RESIDENCE IN THAT COMMERCIAL AREA IS A DIFFICULT THING.
AND THEN TO MAKE IT A COMMERCIAL, SOME SORT OF COMMERCIAL USE WITH NO PARKING SPACES, I DON'T SEE HOW KENDRICK WOULD EVER TELL THEM THEY COULD GO DO THAT.
SO I, I THINK, UM, IN MY OPINION, YOU KNOW, ONE 19 WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD EXTEND IT FOR THEM FOR ONE 15 AND ONE 17.
THEY HAVE 32 SPACES BEHIND THEIR BUILDINGS.
I JUST DON'T THINK IT'S, IT'S REQUIRED, UH, TO DO THAT.
AND SO I WOULD, UH, I'LL ALLOW OTHER DISCUSSION, BUT I'LL MAKE, MAKE A MOTION IF ANYBODY WANTS ONE
WELL, IS THERE ANY WELL YOU'RE WELCOME TO ALWAYS MAKE A MOTION AND WE CAN HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT.
SO, UM, WELL I'LL MAKE A MOTION THEN THAT WE APPROVE, UM, THE, THE, THE, UH, INCLUSION OF ONE 19 IN THE EXEMPTED AREA.
UM, AND THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE ORDINANCE AND APPROPRIATE.
SO THAT WOULD BE PROPOSAL ONE, CORRECT.
IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT ITEM? HEARING NONE, UH, IN THE SPIRIT OF CONSISTENCY, LET'S DO ROLL CALL.
AND BOARD MEMBER BALLARD? YES.
AND THEN I WILL ENTERTAIN A MOTION OF SENDING IT TO THE BOARD.
OUR RECOMMENDATION, UH, I THINK MR. INGRAM'S MOTION AND CARRIED BOTH ENCAPSULATED THE RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD AS WELL AS THE CONSISTENCY STATEMENT.
SO IF YOU'RE HAPPY, I'M HAPPY IT
I LIKE, I LIKE KEEPING THE LAWYER
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HAPPY.UH, WITH THAT I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN YOUR, I MOVE IT WITH ADJOURN.
DO I HAVE A SECOND? SECOND, SECOND.
UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
BRAD, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE.