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ORDER A REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE REDEVELOP NEW REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.UM, ONLY THING DIFFERENT ABOUT TONIGHT IS ON THURSDAY IS IN DIFFERENT PLACE
AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GET YOU TO HELP ME WITH THE ROLL CALL.
AND NONE OF OUR EX OFFICIO OFFICER ARE PRESENT, BUT WE DO HAVE A FORM.
AND I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT MR. UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND IS ON THE WAY.
SO IT WAS DURING, LET HIM JOIN NOTICE.
[3. Consider Approving the Agenda.]
THE AGENDA IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.THIS AGENDA WAS SENT OUT TO EVERYONE.
I HOPE YOU'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK AT IT.
NO CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA OF THIS.
UM, DON DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT.
UM, ALL IN FAVORS A AND ALL OF THOSE SAY NA AND IT STAMP THAT WE WILL APPROVE THE AGENDA.
[4. Consider Approving Minutes (January 10th and January 27th)]
GONNA APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES.WE HAVE TWO SETS OF MEETING MINUTES THAT WERE ALSO DISTRIBUTED.
UM, EARLIER WE HAVE THE SEVEN MEETING MINUTES FROM JANUARY 10TH, UM, AND A SET OF MINUTES FROM JANUARY 27TH.
ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THOSE MEETING MINUTES? IF THERE IS NONE, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE THEM? I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF JANUARY 10TH AND JANUARY 27TH.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE BOTH THE MEETING MINUTES AND JANUARY 10TH.
JANUARY 27TH, UM, AS THEY HAVE BEEN, UM, SENT DOWN TO US.
ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? MM-HMM.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES.
THE MEETING MINUTES FROM BOTH OF THOSE DATES ARE APPROVED AND NOW WE WILL.
[5. Mission Statement and Guiding Principles]
WE HAVE OUR MISSION STATEMENT IN OUR PACKAGE TONIGHT, AS WELL AS OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.AND AS Y'ALL REMEMBER, WE DISCUSSED AT OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION THAT WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON OUR MISSION STATEMENT AS WE'RE MOVING FORWARD.
WE HAVE USED OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES TO GET US TO THE PLACE WHERE WE ARE NOW.
SO, UM, DO I HAVE A VOLUNTEER TO READ THE GUIDE? I MEAN THE MISSION STATEMENT FOR US TONIGHT, THE NEW BERN DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION LEADING THE WAY FOR OUR COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT BY DIRECTLY ADDRESSING COMMUNITY NEEDS AND THE VITAL AREAS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO AN ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND PUBLICLY DRIVEN PROCESS.
ACROSS, I THINK WE'LL REMIND OURSELVES OF THOSE, UM, UH, THE MISSION STATEMENT AT EVERY MEETING.
AND WE ALWAYS HAVE OUR ROUTING PRINCIPLES WITH US, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'LL FOCUS ON MOVING FORWARD.
UM, AT THIS POINT IN TIME ON OUR AGENDA, WE ARE AT THE PLACE OF PUBLIC COMMENT.
SEEING NO PUBLIC HERE, I'M ASSUMING THERE IS SOMEONE SHARE TONIGHT.
HAS ANYONE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH YOU? UH, SETH? NOPE.
[7. Consider accepting a request to purchase: a. 808 Bern Street (PID: 8-007-327) b. 810 Bern Street (PID: 8-007-328)]
MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT AGENDA AGENDA ITEM.AND THAT IS THE CONSIDERATION OF ACCEPTING THE REQUEST TO PURCHASE FOR 8 0 8 BURN STREET AND EIGHT 10 BURN STREET.
AND IF YOU REMEMBER, WE HEARD THE PRESENTATION FROM, UM, MR.
AND WE STARTED TO, UM, INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS AND MR.
SO NOW WE'RE AT THE PLACE WE NEED TO CONSIDER ACCEPTING HIS REQUEST TO PURCHASE AND FORWARD THIS, UM, FORWARD OUR AGREEMENT TO THE GOVERNING BOARD FOR THEIR APPROVAL.
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WOULD BE IN THE BOARD OF ALBAN.ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT? WERE THERE ANY CONDITIONS APPLIED TO THIS SALE? UH, THE CONDITIONS, UH, THAT WERE RECOMMENDED WERE RESTRICTIONS.
RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING IS TO BEGIN CONSTRUCTION WITHIN 12 MONTHS IN THE BEGINNING OF CONSTRUCTION, DEFINED AS A COMPLETED FOUNDATION.
AND IN THE EVENT THEY FAILED TO START CONSTRUCTION, UM, WITHIN 12 MONTHS, ENTITLED AUTOMATICALLY WORKS BACK TO DEVELOP COMMISSION.
SO I THINK WHEN WE MADE THE RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS, WE HAD ATTACHED THOSE, BUT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THEY STILL STUCK WITH, WENT THROUGH THAT PROCESS.
SO THEY WOULD CARRY THROUGH WITH, UH, THE SALE, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
UM, THE, THE RESOLUTION THAT, UM, IF THIS MOTION PASSES TONIGHT, THEY'LL BE SIGNED BY THE CHAIR WILL SET FORTH THOSE RESTRICTIONS AS I JUST ENUMERATED.
AND THEY WOULD BE ATTACHED TO THE QUICK CLAIM DEED.
UM, THAT WOULD BE RECORDED AND ON RECORD.
SO THOSE CONDITIONS
WE'RE SENDING IT TO THEM FOR APPROVAL.
SO YOU ALL WOULD ACCEPT THE FINAL BID.
UM, SO THIS, THIS PROPERTY, BOTH 8 0 8 AND EIGHT 10 WERE ADVERTISED IN THE NEWSPAPER PURSUANT TO THE UPSET BID PROCESS, NO UPSET BIDS WERE RECEIVED.
UM, SO IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO ACCEPT, UM, THE GENTLEMAN'S, I DON'T WANNA MISPRONOUNCE HIS NAME, UH, ACCEPT THE GENTLEMAN'S FINAL OFFER, THEN YOU WOULD ACCEPT THE OFFER AND YOU WOULD ASK THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO APPROVE THE SALE UPON THEIR APPROVAL OF THE SALE.
THE OFFICERS FOR THIS COMMISSION WILL BE ABLE TO EXECUTE ALL THE CLOSING DOCUMENTS AND WE'LL, UH, SCHEDULE A TIME FOR THE GENTLEMAN TO CLOSE THE PROCESS.
AND I ANTICIPATE, UM, WE MAY BE ABLE TO GET BOARD APPROVAL IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS.
THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST AGGRESSIVE TIMEFRAME THAT WE COULD HAVE.
UM, AND HE COULD CLOSE WITHIN THE NEXT 30 DAYS AND SEE THE, I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN SO THEY CAN MOVE IT THAT FAST.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MY CAREER, I'M SORRY SIR.
UM, IF THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, CAN I GET A MOTION, UM, TO CONSIDER ACCEPTING THIS REQUEST TO PURCHASE? SO WHO HAVE A MOTION? AND I THINK I HEARD A SECOND, SAME TIME, HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, ANY ADDITIONAL DISCUSSION OR ANY POINTS YOU MIGHT, WOULD LIKE TO BRING IT UP.
AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, MADAM CHAIR ON THE MOTION, WAS THAT THE MOTION TO ACCEPT THE OFFICE OF PURCHASE FOR 8 0 8 AND EIGHT 10? YES.
WAS THAT YOUR SECOND MR. WARREN? MM-HMM.
SO THE PURCHASE OF 8 0 8 AND EIGHT 10, DO WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL OR A VOICE VOTE? I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER WHAT THE RULES OR PROCEDURE SAY
I THINK YOU CAN DO A VOICE VOTE.
AND ALL OPPOSED? SAME AY UM, AYE.
HAVE, HAVE IT? NO, THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND WE ARE ON TO ALREADY, UM, ITEM NUMBER 8 6 0 8.
[8. New Business]
NEW BUSINESS, AND THAT IS BASED ON OUR STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION.WE HAVE, UM, SOME PROPOSALS FOR THE UPCOMING FISCAL YEAR 24 25 FOR CONSIDERATION DISCUSSION AND, UM, REALLY, YOU KNOW, AN INTEREST OF THE COMMISSION OF WHO WOULD LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE TEAMS TO MAKE THOSE, UM, PROPOSALS IN THE BOARD INTO ACTION.
SO THE FIRST ONE IS THE A STREET PROJECT.
ARE YOU WANT TO INTRODUCE THOSE OR, UM, JUST MOVING ON.
ACTUALLY, THE, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER KIPP
SO GIVE, HAVE YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER PARAGO.
UH, IF, IF YOU WANT TO TAKE US THROUGH, I'LL, I'LL BE YOUR SWITCHER.
UM, THIS WAS ALL HANDED OUT AT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING COMMISSION,
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UH, MEETING, UH, THAT WE HAD.SO IT'S, UH, TRYING TO BE A REHASH THE PROPERTY ON WEST A STREET.
WE'VE HAD PORTIONS OF IT FOR QUITE A WHILE.
AND THEN TO MAKE IT A REALLY NICE PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE REQUESTED THAT, THAT TO GET ADDITIONAL PROPERTY FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.
WHICH WE DID IN OUR REQUEST FOR 10 PIECES OF PROPERTY TWO YEARS AGO, I GUESS, OR SO.
BUT IT, IT MAKES FOR A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT'S, UH, 236 STREET, UH, 236 FEET OF, OF FRONTAGE ON WEST EIGHTH STREET.
UH, THE ADJACENT PROPERTIES, UH, TO THE SOUTH OF THAT ARE TO, TO LIP.
UH, OUR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS, UH, I THINK THREE OF 'EM ARE ACTUALLY HABITAT HOUSES.
AND THEN THERE'S A TWO STORY BLOCK BLOCKHOUSE, UH, IT'S OWNED BY I THINK MRS. ROGERS THERE NEXT TO US.
UH, MRS. ROGERS, IF YOU RECALL, A COUPLE MEETINGS AGO, UH, WE HAD TO ESTABLISH A PROPERTY LINE ALONG THAT WITH HER.
UH, AND SHE HAS, WE HAD DOCUMENTATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY LINE AND THE FACT THAT SHE HAS NO INTEREST IN THE HOUSE THAT IS REALLY, REALLY CLOSE TO IT, AND THAT SHE HAS NO OBJECTION TO THAT HOUSE BEING DEMOLISHED.
THERE ARE EXISTING ON THAT PROPERTY, THREE HOUSES THAT HAVE TO BE, UH, DEMOLISHED.
AND WE, I THINK WE'VE AUTHORIZED THAT A LONG TIME AGO.
THERE'S, YEAH, THERE'S TWO OF 'EM.
ONE OF THEM BURNT DOWN, ONE OF TWO AND A HALF, ONE OF 'EM BURNT DOWN.
AND THE ONE NEXT TO IT IS WAS THE CITY COUNTY HOUSE.
AND THAT'S THE ONE WITH NO ROOF AND ABOUT TO FALL IN AND SO FORTH.
AND THEN THERE'S TWO HOUSES, UM, ON, ON THE ORIGINAL PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE HAD.
SO WE, WE HAD GOTTEN QUOTES A LONG TIME AGO ABOUT DEMOING THOSE HOUSES.
I DO HAVE SOME NEWS IN THE STAFF REPORT ON, UH, TO THAT EFFECT.
SO I, I'LL I'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT IN JUST A MINUTE.
BUT, SO WE HAVE THE PROPERTY AND THEN THE OBJECTIVE IS TO CREATE A, A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT EITHER WE COULD BUILD ON OR WE COULD ENTICE A DEVELOPER TO BUILD ON IT.
UH, SO TO GET, GET IT READY FOR EITHER OR IN THAT SITUATION.
UH, THERE ARE CERTAIN STEPS THAT WE NEED TO TAKE.
UH, ONE IS TO RESEARCH THE TITLE ON THE COUNTY PROPERTY.
WE DON'T WANT TO END UP IN A SITUATION LIKE WE FOUND OURSELVES RECENTLY.
UH, 'CAUSE THERE IS NO GUARANTEE WE, THAT THAT TITLE IS GOOD AND WOULDN'T CAUSE US PROBLEMS. UH, WE NEED, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS, TO ACQUIRE ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY UP ADJACENT TO THE RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY.
A LITTLE TRIANGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY UP THERE THAT ALLOWS US A LITTLE MORE FREEDOM IN LOT LAYOUT AND ALSO GIVES US THE OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A VEGETATED BUFFER AGAINST THE RAILROAD.
HAVE YOU EVER TALKED TO THE RAILROAD? NO.
OH, THE RAILROAD'S NOT INVOLVED IN THIS, PER SE.
BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ACQUIRING PIECE? YEAH, BUT IT'S, IT IS AN INDIVIDUAL THAT OWNS IT.
BUT IT, WHAT IT WILL DO IS WE CAN PLANT SOME BUSHES AND TREES ON IT AND CREATE A BUFFER AGAINST THE RAILROAD PROPERTY.
UH, NEED TO GET THE PROPERTY SURVEYED.
UH, WE NEED TO IDENTIFY ALL THE EXISTING, UH, WATER AND SEWER TAPS ALONG THERE.
UH, AND SO THAT WE KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH THEM.
UM, WE NEED TO HAVE THE HOUSES ABOLISHED AND WE NEED TO GET THE SITE CLEARED.
'CAUSE WHEN WE, WHEN WE HAVE A HOUSE DEMOLISHED, WE GET THE HOUSE DEMOLISHED AND HAULED AWAY.
BUT ON SEVERAL OF OUR PROPERTIES, IT, IT IS OVERGROWN ON THE BACK PROPERTY LINE ESPECIALLY.
AND YOU DON'T EVEN, YOU CAN'T EVEN TELL HOW DEEP THE PROPERTY REALLY IS BECAUSE OF THE JUNK.
SO YOU WOULD NEED TO CLEAR THE, THE PROPERTY IN ENTIRETY, GET RID OF ALL THE OVER UNDERGROWTH AND SO FORTH ALONG THE, ALL THE PROPERTY LINES SO THAT, SO YOU CAN REALLY IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY, REALLY IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY, AND FOR POTENTIAL CUSTOMERS TO REALLY KNOW WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
SO THAT'S ANOTHER, ANOTHER PROJECT NEEDS TO BE DONE.
UH, OUR, AGAIN, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR OPTIONS.
WE CAN IDENTIFY AN OUTSIDE DEVELOPER TO WORK ON THE SITE.
UH, WE COULD DEVELOP LOTS AND JUST SELL THE LOTS ON.
WE COULD ALSO, UH, WITH A HOUSING PARTNER, WE COULD BUILD HOMES, UH, FOR SALE THERE.
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SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE OPTION TO HAVE.WHAT I WAS FAT FINGERING, UH, ALONG THE WAY WAS A BUDGET.
I HAD CREATED A BUDGET, BUT IT DIDN'T, I FAT FINGERED A NUMBER AND IT DIDN'T ADD UP.
BUT THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT, LIKE TITLE SEARCH, THE PROPERTY ACQUISITION, SURVEYING, DEMOING OF THE HOUSES, AND SITE CLEARING, UH, WE'RE LOOKING CLOSE TO FOUR $34,000 OF INVESTMENT TO GET ALL THAT WORK DONE TO MAKE THAT SITE ABSOLUTELY READY FOR SALE TO A DEVELOPER OR FOR US TO WORK ON IT.
AND SO WE HAVE SEVERAL OP SEVERAL LAYOUTS OF DIFFERENT OPTIONS THERE.
ONE IS WITH, UH, 40 FOOT WIDE LOTS, WHICH IS SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE DOING DOWN ON, UH, WALT BELLAMY.
AND WE GET SIX LOTS THERE OUT OF THAT CONFIGURATION.
AND WE ALSO HAVE A, A 35 FOOT WIDE PLAN THAT GIVES US SEVEN LOTS.
SO, YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S OUR OPTION TO WORK WITH.
AND, YOU KNOW, TAKE THAT, TAKE THOSE SIX LOTS AND DIVIDE IT INTO THE $34,000, YOU KNOW, $8,500 PER LOT INVESTMENT, UH, ON OUR PART.
THE HOUSE HAS GOTTA GO ANYHOW.
THAT'S THE BIGGEST INDIVIDUAL EXPENSE THAT WE HAVE, IS THE DEMOING OF THE HOUSES.
UH, THAT NUMBER IS $17,906 THE WAY I FIGURED IT.
AND THAT INCLUDES $500 FOR EACH HOUSE FOR THE, UH, ASBESTOS ASSESSMENT.
AND SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT.
BUT THAT'S THE PROJECT THAT ON A STREET THAT THAT'S AVAILABLE FOR US TO, TO WORK WITH.
AND WE CHOOSE TO GO DOWN THAT, THAT ROAD.
SO ACCORDING TO OUR RULES AND PROCEDURES AND ON THIS, UH, THAT, UH, NOW THAT THE PROJECT HAS BEEN PROPOSED, THE COMMISSION WOULD ADOPT THAT PROJECT.
IS IS ONE THAT, THAT WE'RE GOING TO PURSUE IN THIS FORM OF PROJECT TEAM THAT'S GONNA BE ASSIGNED TO IT? YES.
SO, AND THAT, UM, DOES THAT REQUIRE A, A MOTION AND A PROPOSAL TO ADOPT IT? I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ESTABLISH A WEST A STREET PROJECT GROUP.
AND BY DOING SO, AND JUST SO EVERYBODY CLEAR ABOUT ADOPTING THE PROJECT, THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT WILL GROW AND EVOLVE OVER TIME, BUT FOCUSING THE COMMISSION'S EFFORTS TOWARDS DEVELOPMENT ON THIS STREET, MR. PARAGO HAS LAID OUT A BEAUTIFUL, UM, OVERVIEW, BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL LIKE THEY'RE MARRIED NECESSARILY TO WHAT KIP SAYS TODAY.
SO I JUST WANT THAT TO BE IN EVERYBODY'S MIND.
UM, BUT YES, YOUR, YOUR PROCEDURE AT THIS JUNCTURE, IF THIS IS A DEVELOPMENT PROJECT THAT IS A PRIORITY FOR THE COMMISSION AT THIS JUNCTURE, YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ESTABLISH A WEST A STREET PROJECT.
AND I THINK IS ANYONE WANT TO HAVE ANY MORE DISCUSSION? WE, THIS ISN'T THE FIRST TIME WE'VE SEEN THIS AND WE'VE CERTAINLY WORKED ON ACQUIRING THOSE LOTS AND WORKING TOWARDS GETTING THE DEMOLITION.
DO WE, ARE WE ALLOWED TO DO LIKE A ROW OF TOWNHOUSES IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA? YOU KNOW, I'M TALKING MM-HMM.
AND I'M LOOKING AT IT AND I'M THINKING WHAT I OBVIOUSLY WITHOUT STANDING IN FRONT OF IT, I CAN'T REALLY TELL WOULD IT BE WAY TOO LONG FOR ONE ROW OF TOWNHOUSES? BUT THAT JUST CAME TO MIND.
LIKE, IS THAT A PERFECT PLACE FOR TOWNHOUSES? YEAH.
YOU MULTIFAMILY IS ALLOWED IN THAT.
NOW ON THAT BOX, WOULD IT CITY IN CURRENT PRICE ON CLEANING IT OR CLEAR IT OR DEMO OF THE HOUSE, THE HOUSES OR THAT WOULD BE ON THE, WITH DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE A REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
AND THEY, THEY USUALLY LIKE, UM, THAT, THAT ARE THE LOW BIDDERS.
WE DON'T ACTUALLY PUT OUT EVERYTHING BID.
BUT I DO PRICE CHECK WHEN I'M LOOKING FOR, UH, SERVICES TO MAKE SURE THAT I'M NOT THROWING WITH OTHER MONEY.
BECAUSE LANDSCAPING AND THOSE TYPES OF SERVICES, YOU DON'T HAVE TO BID.
BUT I, I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
YOU DO DUE DILIGENCE TO CHECK PRICES AROUND AND
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WE DON'T GET WARRANTY DE OR THE PEOPLE MADE AWARE OF WHAT A QUICK CLAIM DEED IS OR THEY SELL IT TO 'EM SAYING QUICK CLAIM, QUICK CLAIM DEED.THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IT, I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S WHY YOU INCLUDED THAT IN ONE OF YOUR, AS, ONE OF THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO TO MAKE IT READY FOR SOMEBODY IS TO GET IT AND DO A TITLE SEARCH ON IT.
WELL, THE, WE, WE GOT THE PROP IN TWO P TWO PARCELS, I THINK, UH, ONE OF 'EM WAS GIFTED TO US, JAMIE OF THE 7 7 10 TRUST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
AND I THINK THERE WAS RESEARCH DONE THERE THAT, THAT WAS ACCEPTABLE PROPERTY.
UH, THE CITY COUNTY PARCEL, WE JUST GOT A WHAT KIND OF DEED WE GET FROM THEM? I, I DON'T RECALL.
BUT IT, IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S THE SAME KIND OF DEED THAT WE GOT ON 2 0 9
SO IN, IN ORDER TO AVOID THAT, I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, BEHOOVE US TO DO A TITLE SEARCH ON THAT PIECE OF LAND THAT WE GOT FROM THE CITY COUNTY SO THAT WE DON'T GO EXPENDING FUNDS ON A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
THAT AND THAT WAS INCLUDED IN YOUR BUDGET? YEAH, BUT IT WAS INCLUDED AS ZERO.
SOME OF IT IS SOME THAT DOESN'T ANSWER YOUR QUESTION.
SO YOU NEED A MOTION TO, UH, ACCEPT A STREET PROJECT COMMITTEE AND PROJECT.
IS THAT CORRECT? EXCEPT THE PROJECT AND ESTABLISH A WORKING.
AND WE'VE HAD TIME FOR DISCUSSION.
UM, ALL IN FAVOR OF ADOPTING THIS AS A PROJECT FOR THE TEAM.
AND THIS WOULD BE A PROJECT THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMISSION WILL UNDERTAKE IN THIS, UM, YEAR.
AND MADAM CHAIR HERE TO BEING HELP WITH THIS MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THOSE WHO ARE INTERESTED TO EXPRESS THEIR INTEREST IN PARTICIPATING ON THIS WORKING GROUP SO LONG AS IT'S FOUR OR FEWER PEOPLE.
I THINK MR. PARAGO MIGHT BE INTERESTED.
AND SO WOULD I, YOU WOULD BE INTERESTED IN THIS CHAIR CAN BE INVOLVED IF THE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED YET, AS LONG AS IT'S WITH HER, IT'S FOUR OR LESS.
I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BE INVOLVED.
ALL RIGHT, SO THOSE, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER PARAGUAY AND COMMISSIONER DI HUNT WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER WALKER AS, UH, REPRESENTING THE CHAIR OKAY.
THE SECOND ITEM THAT WAS DISCUSSED AT OUR, UM, STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION WAS MAYBE DEVELOPING A TEAM TO WORK ON THE DEED RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS OF PROJECTS IN OUR AREA, MEANING OF PROPERTY THAT WE'RE, UM, WHEN PEOPLE COME TO ASK US FOR PROPERTY, WE HAVE A, A STANDARD OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE SET IN PLACE AND MAYBE, UM, LOOK INTO THAT.
YOU WANNA ADD TO THAT? UH, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, UH, BROUGHT IT UP AT THE STRATEGIC PLANNING SESSION AND, AND, UH, EARLIER THIS WEEK, UH, WE CHATTED ABOUT IT AND WE'RE NOT REALLY SURE IF IT WILL, IF IT WILL, UH, MAKE, GET TRACTION, BUT WE WANTED TO PRESENT IT IF IT WAS A INTEREST FOR THE COMMISSION TO, UH, TO, TO MOVE FORWARD WITH BASICALLY REALLY WHAT, UM, AND YOU CAN DEFINITELY CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, UH, FACT CHECK ME.
UH, BUT WHAT THE MAJOR CONCERN WAS WAS THAT IN THE PAST, ALL OF OUR RESTRICTIONS, UH, IN COVENANTS HAVE HAD LOW TO MODERATE INCOME RESTRICTIONS ON, ON, ON THE, UH, ON THE QUICK CLAIM DEEDS.
UM, AND WE WANTED TO JUST EVALUATE THAT AND SEE IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT NEEDED TO NECESSARILY BE DONE EVERY SINGLE TIME.
SO, UM, ANYTHING TO ADD ABOUT REPRESENTED? WELL, NOPE.
IT JUST FEELS LIKE WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE OWN A LOT OF PROPERTY IN THIS AREA AND SO IF, YOU KNOW, IT ENDS UP AT THE END OF OUR WORK, 65% OF THE AREA HAS HAVE TO
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BE LOW INCOME PEOPLE.LIKE IT DOESN'T GIVE IT, YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? IT DOESN'T GIVE IT ANY CHANCE TO SORT OF GET BETTER.
SO THAT, THAT WAS THE THINKING BASED ON SOMETHING ZB SAID.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S LIKE RESEARCH AND SEE WHAT OTHER PLACES DO.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE COMMISSION WOULD DO, BUT I JUST, I DON'T KNOW THAT WE SHOULD KEEP GOING FORWARD.
AND AS ALWAYS ADDING THAT TO THE DES AND I GUESS IT IS SIMILAR TO WHEN, UH, SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS USED TO USED TO ELIMINATE PUBLIC HOUSING, THEY WILL BILL MORE, BUT, UH, ONLY A PERCENTAGE WOULD GO TO LOW INCOME AND THE OTHER PERCENTAGE WOULD GO TO ANYBODY THAT WANT TO DO IT.
SO IT WOULD BE A, A BIG GROUP OF PEOPLE.
IT WOULDN'T ALL BE JUST CONFINED TO LOW INCOME.
SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A THOUGHT THOUGH.
I SEE, I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE.
UH, WHAT WHAT YOU MIGHT DO, UM, MADAM CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS IS YOU MIGHT GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO DO SOME RESEARCH WITH OTHER REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS THAT HAVE SIMILAR DEMOGRAPHICS AND OTHER SIMILARITIES, UM, TO BRING SOME, UM, GUIDANCE BACK TO YOU ALL ABOUT WHAT OTHER COMMUNITIES ARE DOING IN REDEVELOPMENT.
AND IF THERE ARE OTHER HOUSING EXPERTS, LET'S JUST SAY WHO MIGHT HAVE SOME
YOU MAY NOT NECESSARILY NEED TO HAVE A GROUP OF COMMISSIONERS TO MEET ABOUT IT AT THIS JUNCTURE, BUT I'M CERTAIN THAT MR. POWELL COULD MIND THAT INFORMATION AND PRESENT IT BACK TO YOU LIKE SO MANY SHAKING HEADS WHILE YOU GUYS ARE GIVING DIRECTION.
LIKE, LIKE FULL PARTICIPATION WHEN HE IS GIVING ME DIRECTIONS,
I WOULD JUST DO RESEARCH ON MY PHONE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT WHEN I CAN'T SLEEP.
SO YOU DON'T WANT ME TO DO THAT RESEARCH? YOU, YOU WANT TO TALK TO PEOPLE AND DO REAL RESEARCH.
I MEAN, I THINK THE CONCEPT THAT WHY WE'VE BEEN DOING RESTRICTIONS IS WE'RE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THE THINGS THAT CAUSE BLIGHT IN THE COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, HOW MUCH, HOW MANY MEETINGS HAVE WE SPENT TALKING ABOUT JUNK CARS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND I COULD REALLY SEE A, A LAUNDRY LIST OR OF OPTIONS OF DIFFERENT RESTRICTIONS BASED ON THAT WE PICK AND CHOOSE.
YOU KNOW, INDEPENDENT OF EACH INDIVIDUAL PROPERTY THAT BY LOCATION AND, AND OTHER THINGS THAT MIGHT EXIST.
SO IT'S, IT IS, AGAIN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WHOLE WHAT STARTED ALL THIS WAS IF WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA FIGHT BLIGHT, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO DO IT.
AND YOU KNOW, AND I, I MIGHT BE WRONG, SYSTEM MANAGER MIGHT HELP ME, BUT I GUESS SOMETIMES WE REALLY, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE ORDINANCES THAT ARE ON THE CITY BOOK.
BUT THEN AGAIN IT IS LIKE, OKAY, DOES THE CITY HAVE ENOUGH STAFF TO MANAGE ALL OF THESE ORDINANCES IN TERMS OF HOUSING CODES, YOU KNOW, ALL THAT KIND OF GOOD STUFF.
I MEAN, AM I, WILL THERE BE SOME OTHER THINGS ALREADY ON THE BOOK YOU WOULD THINK? I THINK AS FAR AS, UM, ABATEMENTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT, IF THERE'S ISSUES LIKE THAT, BUT LIKE, UH, CERTAIN ABANDONED VEHICLES AND THERE'S CERTAIN, UM, REQUIREMENTS NOT TO HAVE 'EM IN CERTAIN LOCATIONS.
BUT I THINK WHAT YOU ALL NORMALLY DO IS YOU CAN'T HAVE 'EM, I THINK YOU'RE A LITTLE BIT MORE RESTRICTED OKAY.
FROM, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING WHAT YOU ALL PUT IN PLACE BECAUSE OUR RESTRICTIONS ARE PUT IN PLACE BEFORE YOU GO INTO THE PROPERTY.
LIKE YOU SAID, UM, COMMISSIONER, WE'RE TRYING TO LITERATE BLIGHT OR CHALLENGE THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, WE WANT THINGS TO BE BUILT, WE WANT THINGS TO BE DONE AND, AND SO WE'RE ASKING FOR THAT.
BUT I'M ALSO, I MEAN, HEAR WHAT YOU SAY ABOUT, DO WE NEED THAT IT ALWAYS BE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME? NO.
OR COULD IT BE MIXED INCOME? AND WHO POLICES THIS STUFF ANYWAY? LIKE WHO POLICES, IF SOMEBODY DOES STORE JUNK CARS ON OUR PROPERTY, WHO IS YOU COULD THE COVENANTS THAT RUN WITH YOUR DEEDS FIRE ENFORCEABLE BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND OR ITS ASSESSMENT INTEREST.
SO THE NEXT, UH, THE NEXT, UH, PROJECT PROPOSAL THAT, UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, AND I'M NOT SURE IF COMMISSIONER BILL HUNT IS, UH, IS WANTING TO PRESENT AT THIS MEETING OR AT THE NEXT MEETING, BUT, UH, YOU ASKED TO PRESENT ON THE FIRST A, ON A FIRST AVENUE PROJECT.
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ON THE FIRST AVENUE.I THINK EVERYBODY HAS BEEN THERE ON THE NORTH END.
I THINK THE CITY HAS ABOUT HOW MANY LOTS ON THE NORTH END? DO YOU KNOW? RIGHT OFF? I KNOW THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNS A PARCEL.
UM, THERE'S A LARGE PARCEL THAT TAKES UP PROBABLY, I DON'T WANT TO SAY ANYTHING WRONG, BUT A LARGE SECTION OF A BLOCK AND THEN ONE MORE SECTION.
WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA GET THE MAP MR. VILLA HUNT SO THAT WE CAN ILLUSTRATE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SAY NO YOU'RE TALKING IS THAT WHERE NO, MR. COLEMAN RIGHT OFF THE CEDAR STREET.
WHERE MR. COLEMAN HOUSE IS UP THAT BURNED DOWN.
AND THAT SEVENTH IT WORKED IN PROGRESS.
A LOT OF INFORMATION HAD TO BE GATHERED.
I KNOW WHAT WE WANT TO DO WITH IT.
I KNOW WHAT OUR ACTUAL VISION, BUT UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT OF GOODS AND TURNS AND I WAS VERY INTERESTED.
SO MR. H IF YOU COULD ZOOM IN TO THAT SECOND AVENUE, FIRST AVENUE SECTION ALMOST THERE.
THAT BOXING YELLOW MR. DI HUNT IS I THINK ONE OF THE LOTS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO THAT'S OWNED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
AND THEN THERE'S A LARGE RECTANGLE IMMEDIATE TO THE NORTH AND WE SEE THE STREET.
CEDAR STREET IS TO THE NORTH UP TOP.
AND IF YOU GO THREE LOTS TO THE SOUTH, FOUR LOTS TO THE Z THAT'S WHAT BEGINS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'S PROPERTY.
THE TRACT ON FIRST AVE UH, COMBINED WITH THE TRACT ON SECOND AVE IS SOME OF THE LARGEST LAND NEST THAT'S COMBINED THAT, UH, THAT WE'VE INTERESTED IN.
SO THERE'S ABOUT LOTS ON SECOND AVENUE.
SOME OF 'EM GO THROUGH, UH, FROM FIRST AVENUE TO SECOND AVENUE.
SO MR. DILL HUNT, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO ILLUSTRATE IS THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNS JUST ABOUT THAT FULL BLOCK.
EXCEPT IT'S EXCEPT THREE THREE LOTS TO THE NORTH FROM CEDAR STREET TO THE OTHER STREET.
SO ARE YOU, ARE YOU SUGGESTING THAT WE TAKE ANY ACTION THIS EVENING? OR ARE YOU WANTING TO DO MORE FUR FURTHER STUDY SO THAT YOU CAN BRING A PROJECT
AND UH, I THINK MAYBE THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO UNDERTAKE.
GET SOME BIDS SO WE CAN SEE HOW FAR, GO BACK AND SEE HOW MANY HOUSES CAN BE PUT THERE AND WE GO THERE.
YOU GET A BAD FEELING WHEN YOU GO DOWN FIRST.
I MEAN, UH, FIRST AVENUE ANYWAY.
I THINK ABOUT WHAT CAN BE THERE AND STAYING THERE.
IT MAY ENHANCE THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I THINK THE CLEAN UP FROM FIRST, I MEAN ALL THE WAY FROM CEDAR STREET TO BROAD STREET, A LOT OF WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE.
AND UH, I JUST, I WANT SAY, OKAY, THIRD AVENUE HAS BEEN GREATLY IMPROVED.
WE WANT FIRST AND SECOND TO HAVE THAT SAME LOOK.
BUT MAYBE WHEN YOU APPROACH IT, YOU DON'T CALL IT A A DUMP, THAT MAKING A SHORT WORD.
SO ANYTHING CAN BE IMPROVED, BUT THE LITTLE EFFORT PUT BEHIND IT.
SO MAYBE I CAN BRING THAT TO THE NEXT MEETING WITH MORE PLANS AND WITH MORE INFORMATION THAT I CAN SHARE WITH THE BOARD.
AND I KNOW IT DOESN'T SOUND POSSIBLE, BUT ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE.
I'M HAPPY TO HELP YOU, UH, HELP YOU WITH ANY RESEARCH.
I WILL BE CALLING ON YOU AND SEE WHAT THE CITY CAN DO.
SO WE'LL TABLE THAT IF IT'S OKAY TO THE NEXT MEETING, MAYBE I HAVE SOME MORE INFORMATION OR MAYBE I HAVE SOME MORE HEAD DOWNS.
APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS UP FOR DISCUSSION TONIGHT.
THEY SAID THE SAME THING ABOUT D FIELD.
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I THINK D FIELD IS PART OF THAT PLAN.SO THINK ABOUT FREE MONEY, WHAT WE CAN GET.
WE WANT SOMEBODY IDEAS BESIDE MY IDEAS, WE WANT EVERYBODY TO THINK ABOUT WHAT CAN WE PUT THERE.
IT'S EYESORE FROM ROY STREET TO CITY STREET.
NO, I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S OUR FOCUS IS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP.
ANYTHING ELSE ON THAT I LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING WITH YOU AND Z CAN PUT TOGETHER BEFORE OUR NEXT MEETING.
I THINK OUR LAST PROJECT PROPOSAL OF RECORD TONIGHT WILL BE GIVEN BY COMMISSIONER TABARI WALLACE.
I WILL GET YOUR MAP PULLED UP NEXT.
'CAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO GO AFTER TO KIL WITH
I, YOU MIGHT HAVE MET EARLIER TODAY TO GET, I CAN HAVE PICTURES AND PICTORIALS AND EVERYTHING ELSE TOO, BUT, UM, IT'S A CRAYON.
THE EIGHT BOX NOT, BUT, UH, DON'T FEEL PROPERLY.
IT'S BEEN SPINNING, SPINNING, SPINNING SINCE WE DOOR DOWN.
UM, AND, UH, WE UH, SPOKE WITH THE COMMUNITY AT A COMMUNITY FORUM, UM, HAD ALL THREE GROUPS THERE AND, UH, I GOT A PICTURE IF Y'ALL WANT.
SEE I COULD'VE BEEN AWESOME FOR THE, FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I GOT A PICTURE OF Y'ALL, ONE OF THE COMMUNITY GIVING US A THUMBS UP AND TRYING TO BE PROACTIVE INSTEAD OF COMING UP WITH AN IDEA OF OKAY.
DOING THINGS HERE, THEN GOING TO THE COMMUNITY WITH IT, HEARING STUFF WHAT THREE GROUPS? PEOPLE, SIMPLE FINGERS GROUP AND
AND THEY ALL WERE IN AGREEMENT.
THEY WERE ALL ALREADY STACK, UM, THAT WE SUGGESTED PIVOTING FROM, UH, UM, THE ORIGINAL PLAN FOR THE BLOOMFIELD STREET, UH, TO ACTUAL, UH, DUPLEXES.
UM, AND IN MY ARTICULATION WITH ZEV AND, AND SOME BRAINSTORMING THAT WE DID, UM, WE THINK WE CAN GET TWO TO THREE ON THAT PROPERTY ON THE BLOOMFIELD STREET.
UM, AND I JUST WANTED PERMISSION TO DEVELOP A WORK GROUP SO WE CAN LOOK AT THAT.
AND, AND I KNOW I, I SPOKE WITH SOME OF YOU, BUT I THINK WE COULD WALK THE CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME.
WE COULD BE WORKING ON KIPP'S PLAN AS WELL AS THE BOOM FIELD PROPERTY.
AND THIS IS QUICK TURNAROUND, Y'ALL, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, IF WE GET IT GOING, THIS IS KIND OF A QUICK TURNAROUND.
UM, BUT THAT WILL SATISFY SOMETHING THAT AN TRO THAT'S BEEN JUST TAKEN OUT OVER OUR NECK FOR THE LAST YEAR.
UM, AND GO AHEAD AND GET SOMETHING OVER THERE.
UM, BUT IT'S NEW, AS WE SAID BEFORE WE TORE IT DOWN.
IT WOULD'VE COST MORE TO FIX IT UP.
AND THEN THAT'S JUST ONE HOUSE.
BUT NOW WE'RE GONNA HAVE PROBABLY SIX WELLS OVER THAT PROPERTY.
I'M ALSO GOING TO INVESTIGATE, UM, THERE'S A, UH, A DWELLING ON THE END ON THE OTHER SIDE OVER THERE.
AND I CAN'T GET A STRAIGHT IDEA OF SOMEBODY'S LIVING, LIVING THERE OR IF THEY'RE GOING IN THERE AND THIS AND THAT.
AND I JUST WANTED TO INVESTIGATE IT JUST TO SEE WHAT THE SITUATION IS THERE.
'CAUSE IF THAT IS ACQUIRED OR WE CAN DO SOMETHING WITH THAT.
WE JUST OPEN IT UP TO MAYBE EVEN FOUR OR FIVE TO SIX THAT WE HAVE JUST REVITALIZED THE WHOLE BLOCK.
THAT'S WHOLE BLOCK AS MR. DI HUNT IS TRYING TO DO OVERALL ON THE THIRD AVENUE.
AND BEING THAT IF, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE INVESTOR WITH MATCHING FUNDS OR HOWEVER WE DO IT IS DOABLE FROM MY UNDERSTANDING.
SO, I MEAN, THIS IS TANGIBLE THINGS.
CAN YOU IMAGINE THAT
I MEAN, IT IS BEAUTIFUL, UM, DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UM, AND, AND HOPEFULLY, UM, STEVE, STEVE, UM, UH, BE WITH ME ON THIS ONE.
SOME MOVE ON THE WORK, WORK WORK GROUP HAS BEEN ESTABL AND MAYBE ONE.
SO, BUT I JUST WANTED PERMISSION TO DO, THEY COVERED IT ALL TOO.
DID THEY GET IT ALL? YEAH, I WOULD JUST, I, I WOULD JUST, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH OUR CONVERSATION, UH, BASED ON, UH, THE NORTH CAROLINA HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY.
UM, WE WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SOMETHING, UH, LIKE THIS THAT WOULD BE BE GEARED TOWARDS LOW, UH, LOW MODERATE INCOME HOUSING, UH, WITH THEIR HOME, UH, WITH THEIR HOME GRANTS.
UH, SO I'M ACTUALLY HEADED TO RALEIGH TOMORROW.
DON'T CALL ME TOMORROW, I'LL BE ON THE ROAD.
UH, AND TO, TO START CONVERSATIONS, UH, WITH THEM TO SEE WHAT OTHER PROJECTS THEY MIGHT BE, UH, WILLING TO FUND, UH, AND HOW MUCH FUNDING.
UH, I'M ALSO TALKING TO, UH, UH, UH, UH, A COLLEAGUE OF, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, UH, TOMORROW MORNING IN GREENVILLE, UH, TO, TO LOOK AT, UH, WORKFORCE HOUSING FUNDING AS WELL.
SO, UH, SEVERAL FUNDING OPTIONS THAT WE HAVE ON TOP OF THE PROCEEDS, UH, FROM, UH, FROM THE SALE.
WAL TELLING ME, UH, DEVELOPMENT SO THAT, UH, IT IS REALISTIC TO, AS COMMISSIONER WALLACE SAID, WALKING
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CHEW GUM AT THE SAME TIME.WE CAN DO MULTIPLE PROJECTS AT THE SAME TIME AND WE'LL WORK TO GET THEM ALL FUNDED.
SO, AND I, I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING THAT MEETING BECAUSE IT KEEPS DOWN SOME NOISE I'VE LEARNED OVER THE YEARS.
WE GONNA GET A THUMBS I MADE, THEY TOOK A PICTURE, THE WHOLE CREW PUT THEIR THUMBS UP LIKE THAT AND I TOOK A PICTURE YES.
SO WHEN WE LEFT THERE, EVERYTHING CHANGED.
YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LAND ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ONE, THE YELLOW APARTMENTS? NO, ACROSS FROM THAT ACROSS WHERE THE ADA HOUSE USED TO BE, LIKE YOU GOT THE OTHER APARTMENTS AND RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE OTHER APARTMENTS ADA HOUSE USED TO STAND.
THERE'S A, THAT THAT LAND RIGHT THERE.
THE ME HOUSE IS GOING, THERE'S A TRAILER IN FRONT OF, UH, OKAY.
AND THEN ON THE OTHER SIDE THERE'S ANOTHER DWELLING, BUT I'M NOT SURE IT WAS THAT I'M INVESTIGATING.
UM, BUT THAT WHOLE SWATH, NOT THE TRAIL AT THE FRONT, BUT THAT WHOLE SWATH, UM, IF WE CAN ACQUIRE IT, WE CAN GET UP TO FIVE SIX, BUT IF WE CAN'T, WE STILL CAN DO THAT.
NOW IS IT A
IT IS NOT THE FIELD THAT WE, SOME OF THESE OTHER PROPERS WE HAVE, WE'LL PROBABLY SPEND $30.50 IN THE FIELD.
BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S A PIECE OF IT THAT'S, THAT'S LOW WE HAVE TO FILL.
SO IT WOULD BE MODERATE HUNTING FOR FILLING, BUT JUST SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DO TO BRING THAT PIECE UP.
SO IT'S LEVEL, SO WHEN WE BUILD, BUT HOW MANY PIECES ARE THERE WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO A BUILD? UH, WE'LL KNOW MORE AS THE, AS THE PROJECT TEAM TAKES FORM, IF YOU ALL ADOPT THIS AS A, AS A PROJECT TO PURSUE.
AND DEFINITELY I ANTICIPATE EACH OF THE PROJECT TEAMS WILL REPORT BACK TO THE COMMISSION, UH, WITH DETAILS.
AND AT THAT TIME IT'LL BE APPROPRIATE TO ASK SPECIFIC QUESTIONS BECAUSE WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE ACTUAL DATA TO SHARE WITH, WITH THE COMMISSION AT THAT AT THAT POINT.
UH, RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE CONJECTURE AND RATHER THAN SPENDING THE COMMISSION'S TIME, I'M GUESSING, UM, WHICH PROBABLY LOOK THROUGH A DOUBT, BE, UH, THE PROJECT TEAM.
WELL IF YOU GO IN THAT IN THE SYSTEM AND PULL THAT PIECE OF LAND UP AND GO TO THE LAYERS AND PULL UP THE IN, UH, NORTH CAROLINA DOT CONTOURS, YOU CAN FIGURE OUT PLUS BLOOD ZONE.
BUT ONCE YOU START GOING FARTHER BACK, OH YEAH.
WE CAN DO THAT GOING FRONT BACK.
IT IS, I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
UH, JIM, IT IS LOW ON THE OTHER SIDE WHERE THAT DWELLING IS.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE IT GOES DOWN, GO DOWNHILL.
SO I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
SO YEAH, IT'LL BE MORE IF WE DID GET THAT, BUT IT'LL BE WORTH IT, TRUST ME.
BUT STEP ONE AT THIS JUNCTURE IS TO DETERMINE WHETHER IT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE COMMISSION TO ESTABLISH A PROJECT GROUP FOR THE BLOOMFIELD STREET POTENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND TO MOVE FORWARD WITH SOME OF THOSE IDEAS OF RESEARCH, RESEARCH, RESEARCH, EXPLORATION.
I'LL MOVE TO FORM THE BLOOMFIELD PROJECTS COMMITTEE.
WE HAVE A MOTION TEAM, WHATEVER TEAM AND PROJECT SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND GOING ON.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING TO ADD? NO COUNSEL.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
SO WE'LL HAVE ANOTHER TEAM FOR ONE FOR FIRST AVENUE AND THEN ONE FOR BLOOMFIELD STREET DEVELOPMENT.
AND AT THIS JUN YOU CAN ENTERTAIN VOLUNTEERS TO SERVE.
WHO WOULD LIKE TO JOIN COMMISSIONER WALLACE ON THIS NAME?
STEVE, YOU WOULD LIKE TO, IS THAT WHAT I WANT? SURE.
ANYBODY ELSE, ANYBODY ELSE INTERESTED IN COMING IN? BUILDING IS ONE OF MY, UH, PASSIONS.
SO IF YOU GOT ENOUGH ROOM, I'M GOING WORK PUT YOU ON THAT.
YOU STILL GOT PEOPLE, YOU JUST DON'T HAVE ENOUGH PEOPLE.
WE'LL SEE WHAT YOUR MIND IS WHEN YOU GET BACK ON YOUR TRIP.
'CAUSE WE'VE DONE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT LOT.
WE HAVE, WE A LOT OF WORK ON THAT.
I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE THE TIME FOR BRING THAT UP OR NOT.
UH, WELL WE'RE IN THE NEW BUSINESS, SO OKAY.
HUD HAVE HAD A PROGRAM AND HAD HAD TO HAVE GIVEN AWAY ABOUT $4 MILLION FROM NOT PURSUING
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THE PROGRAM THAT THEY HAD.AND THE WAY THAT WORKED THAT WOULD FIND A BUYER, THEY WOULD QUALIFY PRE-QUALIFY THE PERSON FOR THAT LOAN THEY WERE WORKING ON WITH A COUPLE OF BANKS.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THEY STILL HAVE IT OR NOT.
I DON'T WANT TO STEP OUTTA MY LANE AS FAR AS INVESTIGATING IT.
BUT I THINK THAT MAY BE SOMETHING TO SEE.
THEY HAVE FUNDS OR COULD THEY GET FUNDS THAT PRE-QUALIFY PEOPLE FOR SOME OF THE HOUSES THAT WE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING AND WHEN THEY PRE-QUALIFY FOLKS FOR THE HOUSES, THEY GOTTA TAKE SO MANY HOURS IN CLASSWORK AND, UH, THEY HAVE A GOOD JOB, UM, INHERITANCE WHAT YOU MAY HAVE.
BUT, UH, AND ALSO KNOW SOME OTHER ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE HAD, I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU STILL HAVE IT OR NOT, BUT, UH, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING FOR US TO LOOK INTO.
AND, AND MR. HU, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS CAN WORK, BUT HUD AS FOR PRE-QUALIFYING FOLKS TO BUY HOUSES OR NOT.
SO TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT A, WE'RE NOT A FEDERAL HUD.
UM, YEAH, I KNOW THAT ORGANIZATION.
SO, UM, WE COULD PROBABLY BE A SUB RECIPIENT OF HUD FUNDING.
BUT AS FAR AS, UH, AS FAR AS BEING A HUD ORGANIZATION, THOSE TWO, THOSE TWO AGENCIES ARE SPECIFICALLY NAMED, UH, IN, IN OUR LOCAL, THAT'S THE TWIN RIVERS, UH, OPPORTUNITIES AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO I, IF IF THERE'S RESEARCH I HAVEN'T DONE, I'M HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN THAT WITH YOU.
AND ANY OF YOU CAN CALL ME ANYTIME AND, AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SPEND AS MUCH TIME AS YOU WANT OUTSIDE OF THE OFFICE.
I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
IF PERSON THAT THEY PRE-QUALIFY, THEY COULD GO ANYWHERE AND BUY A HOUSE ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THIS CLASS.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE, COULD BE A HOUSE IN MARS, ON MARS, ANYWHERE THEY CAN FIND A HOUSE THEY ALREADY PRE-QUALIFIED TO BUY THAT HOUSE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE ANYBODY HERE HEARD ABOUT THAT PROGRAM OR NOT, BUT, UH, I KNOW IT WAS A PROGRAM THEY HAD.
SO IF I CAN CHECK ON IT WITHOUT NO OBJECTIONS, PLEASE DO.
YEAH, I CAN CHECK ON THE, BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK.
AND WE'LL SEE IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN GETTING PEOPLE PRE QUALIFY AND THEY ALSO HAVE A BANK THAT WOULD HELP PRE-QUALIFY THE PERSON TO BUY CERTAIN HOUSES.
SO I CAN CHECK ON THAT IF IT'S OKAY.
AND MAYBE BRING THIS BACK TO THE NEXT MEETING WE HAVE.
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, BOBBY.
YEAH, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU SAYING THAT I CONNECT WITH HER AND I UNDERSTAND THAT QUITE WELL.
UH, ALONG THAT EXCUSE MAD CHAIRMAN ALONG THAT LINE, THE PROGRAMS SOMEWHERE, SOMEWHERE DOWN THE LINE AND I DON'T KNOW, IS THAT HELP? YOU MIGHT HAVE ALREADY STARTED DOING THIS, BUT OUT OF THE RETREAT WE HAD, UH, A GENTLEMAN, I CAN'T REMEMBER WAS HIS NAME, REGINALD BARNER.
HE, HE BROUGHT A LOT OF DIFFERENT FUNDING AGENCIES.
HAD WE BEGAN TO LOOK WHERE WE CAN GO WITH THOSE OR DO WE NEED TO, I MEAN, I HATE FOR THE GENTLEMAN TO COME AND GIVE US IDEAS WE DON'T FOLLOW WITH THEM.
SO YOU, YOU TAKE CARE OF THAT.
YOU I GOT IDEAS COMING DOWN THE LINE.
AND THERE'S ALWAYS MORE, UH, THERE'S ALWAYS MORE TO DO AND AS, AS, AS YOU AND I DISCUSSED, YOU KNOW, HAVING, HAVING MR. BARTER COME BACK, UH, AND WORK WITH US, UM, IN, IN A, IN A, IN A TEAM, UH, TEAM BASED FORUM OR OKAY.
ON BRINGING HIM INTO PROJECTS TO CONSULT IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
UH, YOU CER YOU ALL CERTAINLY HAVE, UH, PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, UH, FUNDS, UH, THAT YOU COULD DO THAT, UH, WITH IF, IF YOU CHOSE TO DO SO.
IMAGINE THAT AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE, THE RESEARCH AND PLANNING FOR BOTH OF THESE PROJECTS THAT WE'VE ABSOLUTELY.
I JUST DON'T WANNA LOSE LOSE THE IDEA THAT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITY AND WE DON'T FOLLOW UP.
I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THAT UP.
AND HOW ABOUT BANKERS? I, YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT WHATEVER BANK, THEY SAID, IF YOU CAN GET A PERSON TO QUIT QUALIFYING, THEY CAN BUY A HOUSE OF THEIR CHOICE.
IF YOU KNOW ANY BANKERS, IF IT'S OKAY, WE TALK TO SOME BANKERS.
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I BELIEVE WE'RE MOVING ON TO OUR[9. Staff Report]
AGENDA ITEM NUMBER NINE, WHICH IS OUR STAFF REPORT.I'LL BE SUPER, UH, SUPER QUICK, UNLESS YOU ALL WANT ME TO BE SUPER LONG, SUPER QUICK.
UH, SO WALT UH, UH, WALT BAILEY IS, UH, COMING ALONG.
UH, I HAVE A PRETTY HIGH AUTHORITY THAT WILL BE READY FOR, UM, MARKET, HOWEVER THAT, THAT LOOKS BY THE END OF MARCH.
UH, WHAT, WHAT CAME IN, UH, AND I COPY THAT FOR ANY OF YOU TO REVIEW THAT, THAT YOU'D LIKE AND I CAN CERTAINLY EMAIL THESE TO YOU.
UH, THIS, UH, THIS PAST WEEK WAS THE APPRAISAL FOR EACH OF THE UNITS.
UH, I'M HAPPY TO REPORT THAT EACH OF THE, UH, EACH OF THE HOUSES CAME IN ABOVE $160,000.
UH, SO THEY'RE WELL BUILT, UH, GOOD SPECS AND I ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, THAT THE COMMISSION WILL BE ABLE TO TURN THOSE PROJECTS AROUND, UH, IN, INTO A HEALTHY PROFIT SO THAT WE CAN, UH, KEEP ON DOING WORK AND KEEP ON PUSHING THINGS DOWN THE LINE.
SO, EXCUSE ME, UM, YOU SAID THEY PRETTY HOW MUCH ABOVE 160 AND I, I, AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO SEND THEM TO YOU AND YOU CAN LOOK THROUGH THEM IN DETAIL.
THESE ARE PUBLIC DOCUMENTS, SO, UM, DEFINITELY.
UM, THE, UH, EUBANKS HOUSE CONTINUES, UH, CONTINUE.
WE'RE, WE'RE CONTINUING TO WORK WITH, UH, TRYING TO FIND STRATEGIC PARTNERS, UH, FOR THE EUBANKS HOUSE, BUT WE'RE, WE'RE GETTING TO SOME RESOLUTION THERE.
UM, THE PUBLIC WORKS, UH, REACHED OUT TO ME THIS WEEK AND DEMOLITION ON THE WEST, A STREET HOUSES, UH, HAS, HAS BEEN SCHEDULED FOR, UH, PRELIMINARY DATE OF APRIL 1ST.
UM, AND I WILL, I I WILL LET EVERYONE AROUND THE TABLE TAKE A DEEP BREATH OF RELIEF BECAUSE THE, UH, MONIES THAT YOU, UH, THAT YOU BUDGETED, UH, UH, OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE, UH, TO DO THAT DEMOLITION WON'T HAVE TO COME OUT OF OUR FUND BALANCE BECAUSE, UH, APRIL 1ST CDBG WILL TAKE CARE OF, UH, THE COST OF DEMOLITION, DEMOLITION ON, ON WEST A STREET.
UH, THE, UH, THE, AFTER I GOT OFF THE PHONE WITH GEORGE, UH, THE NEW FIRE CHIEF CALLED ME AND ASKED ME, AND BEFORE WE DI UH, DEMOLISHED THOSE PROPERTIES, UH, COULD WE ALLOW THE FIRE, UH, THE, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO GO IN AND DO SOME TRAINING? UH, IF THEY ARE SOUND ENOUGH, THEN I SAID I WASN'T QUALIFIED TO ANSWER THAT BY MYSELF, BUT I WOULD TAKE IT TO THE COMMISSION TONIGHT AND SEE IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY OBJECTIONS TO ALLOWING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO UTILIZE THEM FOR TRAINING, UH, BEFORE THEY'RE DEMOLISHED.
THEY ENSURE I'M ASKING ARE THEY UNDER OUR INSURANCE POLICY? ARE THEY OWNED? YEAH.
ARE THEY OWNED BY US? THEY'RE OWNED BY THE COMMISSION.
THEY'RE OWNED BY AND THEY'RE UNDER OUR INSURANCE.
THEY'RE UNDER, YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? UH, HOW DO WE STAND DIRECTION? JUST DIRECTION.
WHAT TO BURN IT DOWN TO USE IT FOR A FIRE TRAIN ONE OF THEM.
THAT, THAT'S WHAT THE TRAINING IS.
YOU GOTTA REMEMBER THE TRAINING IS GOING TO BE GOOD TO GET IT DOWN.
PLUS THE TRAINING HELPS TO PROTECT THE HOUSE THAT'S CLOSEST TO IT.
I DID TALK TO MCCONNELL DID JUST TO, TO EXCLUDE YOUR FEAR.
I DID TALK TO JIM MCCONNELL TODAY.
AND THE, THE ONE HOUSE, UH, THE ONE HOUSE IS THEY USUALLY LIKE A 50 FOOT CLEARANCE.
THE ONE HOUSE THAT'S ON THAT'S CLOSEST TO THE LITTLE, THE SMALLEST HOUSE, UM, NOT NINE 14, THE NEXT ONE OVER IS ONLY 30 FOOT CLEARANCE.
AND SO THEY WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE TO HAVE THAT NEIGHBOR SIGN A WAIVER BEFORE THEY WERE ABLE TO DO THAT.
SO THEY HAVE INTERNAL RULES THAT, THAT, THAT GUIDE THEM AS WELL.
SO THEY'RE JUST WONDERING IF, IF WE HAVE ANY, IF WE HAVE ANY MISGIVINGS ABOUT THEM, UH, ABOUT THEM USING THE HOUSES TO TRAIN ANY HOUSE THAT THE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH.
AND SHE BE GOOD TO GO, SHE'LL BE GOOD.
WHAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WOULD LIKE TO GIVE? I MEAN, HEAD SHAKING WORKS AND I, I CAN MOVE ON.
I GOT CHANCE AND LOTS OF SMILES.
I'LL TAKE THAT AS AS DIRECTION.
UH, THE, THE FINAL, UH, PIECE OF PAPER IN YOUR PACKAGE AND IS JUST A PRELIMINARY BUDGET.
I WANNA POINT OUT, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF A DIFFERENCE, UH, IN THE BUDGET AS IT'S GIVEN
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TONIGHT AS OPPOSED TO HOW IT'S BEEN GIVEN IN THE PAST.THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO ORGANIZATIONS LISTED.
UH, THERE IS REDEVELOPMENT, UH, UH, 1 1 1 30, UH, 70 30, WHICH MEANS NOTHING TO ANYBODY OUTSIDE OF FINANCE.
UH, THAT IS THE CITY'S, UH, THE CITY'S ACCOUNT, UH, FOR STAFFING.
AND THEN THERE ARE, THERE IS THE 2 1 1, UH, 70 30.
UH, AND THAT IS THE DEVELOP THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS FUND BALANCE, JUST SPECIFICALLY FOR PROPERTY.
SO, UH, THE MEMBERSHIP DUES AND THINGS SUCH AS PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT, TRAVEL, UNIFORM SUPPLIES AND PURCHASING AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THOSE WILL ALL COME OUT OF THE 1 1 1 70 30, WHICH IS THE STAFF ACCOUNT.
AND THEN, UH, THINGS SUCH AS PROFESSIONAL FEES, UTILITIES, KEEPING UP, THE LANDSCAPING, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS, WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY WHAT HAS BEEN, UH, TRACKED FOR REDEVELOPMENT.
UH, COSTS WILL COME OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, UH, THE, THE FUND BALANCE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO JUST WANTED TO GIVE THAT LITTLE CLARIFICATION AND PUT THIS IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES.
UH, BEFORE I SEND IT ON TO THE ALDER OF THE, THE ALDER PEOPLE, THE GOVERNING BOARD
IT'LL ALL BE IN FRONT OF YOU ALL AGAIN, UH, FOR, FOR ADOPTION.
UH, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU HAD THESE NUMBERS TO KIND OF LOOK AT PERU'S PROCESS, CALL ME ABOUT AND DISCUSS.
'CAUSE I NEVER WANTED TO DO ANYTHING IN THE ASYLUM BECAUSE EVERYTHING I DO I'M DOING ON YOUR BEHALF.
WITH THAT MADAM CHAIR, I BELIEVE DOES IT FOR MY STAFF REPORT UNLESS ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS.
[10. Closed Session]
NUMBER 10 IS TO GO INTO CLOSED SESSION.UH, PURSUANT TO JUDGE
UM, LAST AGENDA ITEM IS TO ADJOURN.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO, MAD CHAIR.