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[1. Call to order and Welcome.]
THE CLOCK IS STRIKING SIX OUTSIDE.SO I WANT TO CALL TO ORDER AND WELCOME YOU TO THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
UM, Z CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.
LEANER MORGAN HAS BEEN EXCUSED DUE TO A FAMILY EMERGENCY.
I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU HAD ON SOME OF THE DOCUMENTS I'VE READ.
AND FOR THE RECORD, UH, COMMISSIONER STEVEN STRICKLAND HERE IS HERE.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU, UH, VERY MUCH.
WE'LL GET STARTED AND AS I, UM, BEFORE WE DO THAT, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS THAT ATTENDED, ATTENDED THE RECENT ALDERMAN'S, BUILDING A MEETING CONCERNING, UM, THE BUILDING THAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR A LONG TIME FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
AND I REALLY APPRECIATE, UM, PEOPLE'S EFFORTS TO BE THERE.
I FEEL LIKE THAT IS PART OF, UM, BUILDING BRIDGES BETWEEN THE WORK WE'RE DOING ON THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, THE WORK THE ALDERMEN ARE DOING.
AND I KNOW THAT THE ALDERMAN, OUR EX OFFICIO MEMBERS KNOW THEY'RE ALWAYS WELCOME TO COME TO OUR MEETING.
SO I JUST WANNA THANK YOU GUYS FOR GOING, THOSE OF YOU THAT WERE ABLE TO ATTEND, UM, NEXT
[3. Consider Approving the Agenda. ]
ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO, UH, CONSIDER APPROVING THE AGENDA.EVERYBODY RECEIVE THEIR AGENDA, AND UNLESS YOU TAKE AN EXCEPTION OR HAVE ANY DISCUSSION, CAN A MOTION MAKE A MOTION? WE APPROVE THE AGENDA.
SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS IT STANDS.
ALL OPPOSED? OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES.
[4. Consider Approving Minutes (March) ]
WE ALSO HAD IN OUR PACKETS, UH, THE MEETING FROM, I MEAN, THE MINUTES FROM THE MARCH 13TH MEETING, IF YOU'VE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THOSE.AND I WOULD ALSO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MINUTES.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MARCH MINUTES.
WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
UM, IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION THAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE ABOUT THE MINUTES? OKAY, I'M GONNA SAY, ALL IN FAVOR OF APPROVING THE MINUTES THEN? AYE.
UM, ALL OPPOSED? UH, THE MOTION CARRIES AND THE MINUTES ARE APPROVED FOR THE MARCH 13TH MEETING.
[5. Mission Statement and Guiding Principles ]
UP IS ITEM NUMBER FIVE ON OUR AGENDA, WHICH IS OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.AND COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, I SAW THAT YOU READ THE MISSION STATEMENT LAST TIME, SO I'M GONNA GO RIGHT BESIDE YOU AND ASK COMMISSIONER BRYANT TO READ IT FOR US.
DO YOU HAVE IT HANDY? SHE NEEDS A BREATH.
PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE EQUAL TIMES.
RESPECT OTHERS OPINION, LISTEN TO BILLING CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION, STAY FOCUSED, BE ACTION ORIENTED, BELIEVE.
AND THEN, UM, WE'LL MOVE AROUND THIS WAY AND I'LL GET YOU TO READ THE, THE MISSION AT TOP OF THE PAGE, SARAH.
THE NEW BERN REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION LEADING THE WAY FOR COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT BY DIRECTLY ADDRESSING COMMUNITY NEEDS IN THE VITAL AREAS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO AN ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND PUBLICLY DRIVEN PROCESS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS FOR SETTING THE TONE FOR US THIS EVENING.
UM, ITEM NUMBER SIX ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND I'M THINKING THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT TONIGHT, BUT I JUST WANNA CHECK.
[8. Consider a resolution to empower the chair to execute an agreement and conveyance with Carolina East for the Health and Wellness Clinic ]
ON TO ITEM NUMBER SEVEN.AND ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TO EMPOWER, UM, THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE AN AGREEMENT IN CONVEYANCE WITH CAROLINA EAST FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CLINIC.
AND THE PRESENTER FOR THAT WAS TO BAR, DO YOU WANT TO WAIT ON HIM AND COME BACK TO IT OR DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH JUST KIND OF A GENERAL OVERVIEW? WELL, I, I, I CAN CERTAINLY
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READ FROM MR. WALLACE AND IF, IF HE HAS ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, I'M SURE HE WON'T HESITATE TO ADD, UH, WHEN HE GETS HERE.UH, AT THE ALDER MEETING ON MARCH 26TH, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, UH, REQUESTED THAT THE CITY OF NEWBURGH CONVEY 7 27 THIRD AVENUE TO THE COMMISSION SO THAT THE COMMISSION CAN SUBSEQUENTLY RECONVEY THE PROPERTY TO CAROLINA EAST HEALTH SYSTEM SUBJECT TO RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS REQUIRING CH UH, CEHS TO CONSTRUCT, DEVELOP, AND OPERATE A CONVENIENT CARE CLINIC FOR NO LESS THAN FIVE YEARS.
ADDITIONALLY, THE COMMISSION REQUESTED THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN APPROVED THE ABOVE DESCRIBED CONVEYANCE TO CAROLINA EAST HEALTH SYSTEM AND APPROVED THE TRANSFER OF THE REMAINING $313,018 AND 80 D 8 CENTS THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY ALLOCATED TO THE COMMISSION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.
THE HOSPITAL WILL TAKE OVER, WILL TAKE THE CITY'S INVESTMENT AND ADD THEIR OWN CORPORATE INVESTMENT INTO THE BUILDING OF, AND THE OPERATION OF THE CONVENIENT CARE CLINIC FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UH, AND TONIGHT, UH, THE BOARD NEEDS TO, UH, UH, CONSIDER EMPOWERING THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE THAT AGREEMENT THAT IS OUTLINED ABOVE.
IT IS ALSO ATTACHED, UH, ATTACHED IN YOUR PACKET.
AND WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING THIS FOR QUITE A WHILE WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND WE'VE DONE TWO PRESENTATIONS, ONE FOR INFORMATION, AND THEN ONE FOR THE CONVEYANCE TO THE ALDERMAN.
SO, UM, THEY APPROVE THAT AND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE NOW, IS TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT, UM, CONVEYANCE WITH CAROLINA EAST FOR THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER.
SO YOU JUST NEED A MOTION FOR THE RESOLUTION IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, SO THAT WE CAN GO AHEAD AND EXECUTE WITH THE HOSPITAL.
I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EMPOWER THE CHAIR TO EXECUTE THE RESOLUTION AND AGREEMENT, UM, RELATED TO THE TRANSFER OF, UM, THE PROPERTY AND FUNDS TO CAROLINA EAST HEALTH.
SECOND, THAT MOTION, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, AND I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT IF THERE'S ANY CONCERNS.
I MADE A STATEMENT AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS BOARD HAD BEEN WORKING ON THAT PROJECT FOR FOUR, FIVE YEARS.
UH, THIS STATEMENT I WANT TO MAKE FOR THE NEW MEMBERS COMING ON BOARD, ON BOARD, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN, UH, NEED TO HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BEFORE THAT OR TO THAT NEW MEMBER.
I THINK THAT WOULD CUT OUT A LOT OF CONTROVERSY MM.
SINCE IT WAS BROUGHT UP BEFORE THE NEW MEMBERS CAME ON.
SO WE THERE ANY NEW PROJECTS THAT THE BOARD ENTIRETY NEED TO KNOW ABOUT OTHER THAN THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
IF, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING I DO.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? UM, ANY CORRECTIONS FROM OUR LEGAL COUNSEL ON THE MOTION OR WE WE DID A GOOD JOB ACTUALLY, WE, WE MEANING SARAH, THE OTHER
AND, AND JUST FOR EVERYBODY'S EDIFICATION, THE, UM, RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU ALSO ENABLES THE VICE CHAIR TO SIGN AND EXECUTE ANY SUBSEQUENT DOCUMENTS THAT MIGHT BE RELATED TO THE CONVEYANCE.
UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S A CAP ENCAPSULATED MS. PROCTOR'S MOTION.
UM, YES, WE WILL NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL.
[Items 9 - 11]
THE NEXT ITEM IS, THERE'S THREE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA THAT ARE ALMOST IDENTICAL.AND THE REASON THERE'S THREE IS BECAUSE THEY'RE THE THREE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE, UM, DEVELOPED ALONG WALT BELLAMY AVENUE.
THEY'RE CONSECUTIVE PROPERTIES ON WALT BELLAMY.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T DRIVEN BY THERE IN A WHILE, YOU'LL BE AMAZED BECAUSE THOSE HOUSES ARE COMPLETE, THEY ARE READY TO GO.
UM, NOW, LAST TIME I TALKED TO YOU Z THEY WERE AWAITING THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
IS THAT STILL THE CASE OR? THAT'S CORRECT.
UH, THE SURVEYOR HAS PASSED IT ON TO THE CITY'S INSPECTION DEPARTMENT, AND I TALKED TO THE CHIEF INSPECTOR THIS AFTERNOON AND IT IS ON THE SCHEDULE.
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THOSE THREE PROPERTIES, NOW WE'VE DONE WHAT WE SAID WE'RE GONNA DO.AND UP UNTIL THIS TIME, AS YOU'VE KNOWN, UM, FROM BEING ON THE COMMISSION, THEY'VE BEEN RESERVED FROM THE SELLABLE LOTS LIST.
THEY'VE BEEN OFF THE TABLE FOR SALE.
BUT NOW THAT THEY ARE COMPLETED HOUSES, OUR GOAL IS TO GET THEM ON THE SELLABLE LOTS LIST.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S WHAT, UM, THIS RESOLUTION IS MOVING THE PROPERTY, EACH ONE OF THOSE FROM BEING NOT FOR SALE TO FOR SALE.
SO THERE'S SOME THINGS TO CONSIDER THERE.
AND I THINK, UM, JAMIE, IF I'M RIGHT, IF WE ARE IN AGREEMENT OF ALL THE PROPERTIES, WE CAN MAKE ONE MOTION YES, MA'AM.
TO DO THAT, YOU CAN DO ONE MOTION SO LONG AS THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS.
AND IF IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS, WE NEED TO CONSIDER EACH ONE INDIVIDUALLY.
UM, AND A LITTLE MORE BACKGROUND INFORMATION ON THOSE PROPERTIES ONCE THEY WERE WELL UNDER CONSTRUCTION, UH, ZEV HAD THEM APPRAISED WITH A REAL ESTATE APPRAISER.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THEY ALL CAME IN, THE AVERAGE APPRAISAL PRICE IS $160,000.
UM, ONE IS A 1000, TWO IS 161,000.
AND THEN A THOU 1006 IS 160,000.
SO WE'VE BEEN, UH, JUST SAYING ROUNDING IT TO 160,000.
AND IN ORDER FOR US TO SELL THESE, IF YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW HOW WE DO OUR SALES, IT IS 75% OF THE TAX VALUE OR THE APPRAISAL PRICE IN THIS CASE.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.
WE CAN GO WITH THE APPRAISAL PRICE, NOT THE TAX VALUE.
'CAUSE IT HASN'T BEEN ADJUSTED YET.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
IF IT'S, SO THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.
I WOULD LIKE TO, TONIGHT WE SAY WE'RE GONNA PUT 'EM FOR SALE.
I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT THEY APPRAISE AT 160,000 AND MAYBE CONSIDER SETTING THAT PRICE AT THAT AMOUNT AS OPPOSED TO OUR USUAL.
AND, AND JUST SO EVERYBODY'S CLEAR, UM, YOU'RE SETTING A MINIMUM BID AMOUNT.
SO THIS IS THE, THE MINIMUM AMOUNT SOMEONE WOULD HAVE TO BID IN ORDER TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY.
IT COULD BE THROUGH THE UPSET BID PROCESS, IF THAT'S THE PROCESS YOU CHOOSE TO UTILIZE, UM, THAT, THAT NUMBER COULD INCREASE OVER TIME.
BUT YOU WOULD BE SETTING A FLOOR, NOT A CEILING, AND YOU CAN DO THAT AS A PERCENTAGE OF SOME NUMBER, WHETHER IT'S ASSESSED VALUE, APPRAISED VALUE, OR YOU COULD DO IT AS JUST A NUMBER BASED ON THE, THE CONSENSUS FROM THE MEMBERS.
SOME OTHER THINGS TO CONSIDER ARE, YOU KNOW, THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT WAS TO DO, UM, AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECT.
SO I, I THINK WE WANT, WANT TO KEEP IT MINDFUL OF WHERE WE'RE SETTING THE PRICE FOR THE HOUSE BECAUSE IT IS, LIKE YOU SAID, THE BOTTOM, THE BASE BID FOR INTEREST.
NOW, ON THE OTHER HAND, WE, UH, BELIEVE OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS HAD A LOT OF INTEREST.
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING AND WAITING FOR THEM TO GO ON THE MARKETING.
RIGHT NOW THEY'RE NOT ON OUR SELLABLE LIST.
SO WE'RE MOVING 'EM TO THE SELLABLE LIST.
BUT I, I BELIEVE IT WOULD BE PRUDENT TO ALSO SET THE, THE BASE PRICE IF THERE WAS A ORGANIZATION THAT CAME ALONG AND WANTED TO BUY THOSE HOUSES AS A BLOCK.
DOES IT STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE UPSET BID PROCESS? NOT NECESSARILY.
SO IF THERE IS A ENTITY CARRYING OUT A PUBLIC PURPOSE MM-HMM.
AND TO THAT POINT, AS WE ARE SAYING, THERE'S THREE PROPERTIES AND IF WE'RE ALL UNANIMOUS, THEY'RE SELLING, WE ARE NOT NECESSARILY SAYING WE'RE GONNA SELL THEM TO THE SAME PERSON.
WE'RE JUST SAYING THEY'RE ALL THREE FOR SALE.
UM, AND THE OTHER CONSIDERATION IS THESE MONIES COME BACK TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR FUTURE PROJECTS? YES.
I JUST, I WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S AS MUCH INFORMATION AS EVERYBODY, EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF INFORMATION.
IS NOW THE RIGHT TIME TO ASK QUESTIONS OR, YEAH.
UM, ZEV, DO YOU, DO YOU REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD? I DON'T HAVE THE BUDGET THAT WE APPROVED, BUT HOW MUCH DID WE SPEND ON THOSE THREE HOUSES? I FEEL LIKE IT WAS 500, BUT, UH, WE, WE WERE GIVEN 500 AND SOME CHANGE TO SPEND AND, UH, AS OF MARCH 31ST,
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WE HAVE, UH, ALLOTTED 277 40, UH, $447.BUT THE LA LAST DRAW HAS NOT BEEN TAKEN FROM THAT.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL, BUT, UM, WE'LL, WE'LL BE SOMEWHERE AROUND THE FOUR 60 MARK.
AND IF WE, UM, JUST THINKING OF THE MINIMUM OR STARTING BID, IF WE DID ONE 60 EACH, THAT'S FOUR 80.
IF MY CALCULATOR'S RIGHT, BECAUSE I CAN'T DO MATH.
YOUR CALCULATOR IS QUITE RIGHT.
SO THAT, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WORKED OUT.
UM, AND THEN WHAT HAPPENS IF WE SET IT AT ONE 60 AND THAT'S LIKE FOLKS DON'T, EVEN WITH ALL THE INTEREST, FOLKS DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE FOR THAT, THEN THEY JUST SIT THERE FOR SALE AND WE HAVE TO COME BACK AND LOWER IT.
OR WHAT, IS THERE A PROCESS FOR THAT? THAT WOULD BE THE WORST CASE SCENARIO.
I JUST WANTED TO KNOW IF THAT'S JUST TO GET A QUESTION.
UH, ARE WE WORKING WITH ANY BANKERS AS FAR AS THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYER? HAVE WE CONTACT ANY BANKERS THAT MAY BE INTERESTED IN LEADING THAT PROJECT ON, HAVE A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER? UH, ACTUALLY THERE'S THREE BASED RIGHT HERE IN NEW BERN, AND I'VE BEEN POINTING PEOPLE, UH, TO, TO THEM AND WORKING WITH NORTH CAROLINA HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THE DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE, UH, THAT, THAT THE STATE OFFERS, UH, IS AT THE FINGERTIPS OF OUR CITIZENS SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT POTENTIAL HOME BUYERS ARE AS, UH, AS, UH, EQUIPPED AS POSSIBLE.
SO YOU'RE SAYING HAD NO LOCAL BANKS BEING CONTACTED AS A FIRST TIME HOME BUYER OTHER THAN THE NORTH CAROLINA, YOU BEING T TRUE IT, YOU KNOW, THEY HAVE PROGRAMS AS FOR THE FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS, UH, YES.
UH, NORTH CAROLINA HOUSING FINANCE AGENCY HAS PREFERRED, UH, HAVE HAS PREFERRED BANKER LIST ON ITS WEBSITE.
AND THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT I'VE BEEN PRIMARILY WORKING WITH ONLY BECAUSE THEY KNOW THE FEDERAL AND STATE PROGRAMS, UH, AND HOW TO NAVIGATE THEM.
AND THEY'RE RECOGNIZED ON THAT LEVEL.
UM, IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING TO YOUR QUESTION, UH, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, THAT, UH, THESE FUNDS, UH, WERE, UM, APPROPRIATED TO THE COMMISSION BY ALDERMAN BOBBY ASTER.
SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT TRYING TO REPLENISH OUR OWN FUNDS.
THE, THESE WERE APPROPRI APPROPRIATE FUNDS TO SEED AND TO, TO MULTIPLY.
AND SO, UH, I THINK IT'S WORTH NOTING THAT, UH, WITHOUT, UH, ALDERMAN MASTERS'S, UH, CONTRIBUTION AND, AND, AND GOODWILL TO THE COMMISSION, WE WOULDN'T BE WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
THANK YOU FOR THAT, BECAUSE THAT IS TRUE.
IS, IS THERE ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT, UH, PUTTING RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS ON THE SALE OF THESE PROPERTIES ABOUT, UH, WHAT CAN GO ON, ON THE PROPERTIES SO THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME SEMBLANCE OF GUARANTEE THAT THEY'D BE MAINTAINED PROPERLY? AND DON'T, I MEAN, COME STORAGE YARDS FOR JUNK CARS AND OTHER THINGS AND OUTBUILDINGS.
I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK ALONG SOME OF THAT AREA THERE, THERE'S REALLY READY OUTBUILDINGS ON SOME OF THOSE LOTS.
AND, AND MR. PARAGO, TO THAT POINT, WE HAVE A PROCEDURE THAT'S IN PLACE.
SO I THINK UNDER OUR CURRENT PROCEDURE, WHEN SOMEONE MAKES AN OFFER TO PURCHASE, THEY COME TO THIS BOARD AND THEY MAKE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THEIR INTENDED USE.
SO IT MAY BE THAT A POTENTIAL OFFER OR WILL COME AND SAY THAT I INTEND TO OCCUPY THIS HOME AS MY PRIMARY RESIDENCE.
AND THEN AT THAT POINT YOU HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY BASED ON THAT PERSON'S, UH, PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL TO DETERMINE WHAT, IF ANY RESTRICTIONS MIGHT BE APPROPRIATE UNDER THAT CIRCUMSTANCE.
AND THEN IF YOU DECIDE TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS, ANY CONDITIONS THAT YOU ALL THINK ARE APPROPRIATE WOULD ATTACH AT THAT POINT, UNLESS YOU WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THAT POLICY AND THERE'S A CONSENSUS TO DO SO.
WELL, I THINK IN, IN, IN THE, UH, THE HOME PURCHASING PROCESS TO KNOW WHAT THE CONDITIONS WERE UPFRONT, UH, RELATES TO VALUE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND SO I, IF IT'S SOMETHING I WOULD THINK THAT, UH, A POTENTIAL BUYER WOULD WANT TO UNDERSTAND AHEAD OF TIME, RATHER THAN PUTTING IN AN OFFER AND SO FORTH AND GOING THROUGH ALL THAT STUFF AND GETTING FINANCING LINED UP, AND THEN WE HAVE A CONDITION THAT THAT MAKES IT UNDESIRABLE FOR THEM TO CONTINUE.
AND YOU CAN CERTAINLY, IF THERE'S A MAJORITY OF YOU ALL THAT WANT TO ESTABLISH CERTAIN CONDITIONS NOW, YOU CERTAINLY
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CAN DO SO.I KNOW THAT'S BEEN IMPORTANT IN THE PAST IS ESPECIALLY A LOT OF OUR LOTS HAVE BEEN EMPTY, LOTS THAT PEOPLE HAVE ASKED TO BUY, UM, FOR VARIOUS REASONS.
AND THE LAST TIME WE WANTED WAS AN EMPTY LOT TO TURN INTO, UH, A CAR PARK OR, YOU KNOW, A PLACE FOR STORAGE OF, UM, SOMETHING ELSE OTHER THAN A, A HOUSE.
BUT THESE HOUSES, YOU KNOW, THEY TAKE UP A PRETTY GOOD AMOUNT OF THE LOT.
THERE'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF, UM, SPACE LEFT ON THE LOT.
ONE CONDITION OR, OR SET OF CONDITIONS THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER IS ABOUT AFFORDABILITY.
SO, UM, CURRENTLY AS THEY SIT WITHOUT ANY RESTRICTIONS, ANYONE IN THE WORLD, UH, WHETHER IT'S A PERSON INTENDING TO HAVE THIS HOME AS THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCE OR SOMEONE WHO'S AN INVESTOR OR ANY PERSON CAN MAKE AN OFFER AND PARTICIPATE IN THAT BIDDING PROCESS, IF YOU ALL UNDERSTANDING YOUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN WOULD LIKE TO, UM, LIMIT OR POSE ANY TYPES OF CONDITIONS AS IT RELATES TO, UM, AFFORDABILITY OR, UM, ANY OTHER CONDITIONS RELATED TO THOSE TYPES OF CONSIDERATIONS, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO DISCUSS.
UH, ALL OFFERS WILL BE CONSIDERED WITHIN REASON, OFFERS WILL BE CONSIDERED AND WE'VE SET A START OR WE WILL HOPEFULLY TO SET A STARTING PRICE FOR THE PROCESS AND WE HAVE TO GET TO THAT PRICE TONIGHT.
OR IS IT WE DO BECAUSE IF WE DON'T AND WE PUT THEM OUT FOR SALE, THEN THEY, THE BASE PRICE BASED ON HOW WE'VE SET UP IN THE PAST IS THREE QUARTERS OF THE APPRAISED VALUE, THREE QUARTERS OF THE TAX VALUE.
SO I I, I DON'T KNOW IF MR. HUFF HAS THE CURRENT TAX VALUE.
I DON'T THINK THAT THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN REASSESSED BY THE COUNTY TAX ASSESSOR TO INCLUDE THE IMPROVEMENTS.
AND SO IF SOMEONE WERE TO OFFER A BID AT THREE QUARTERS OF THE TAX ASSESS VALUE RIGHT NOW, WE WOULD BE TALKING ABOUT, UM, $4,000.
SO YEAH, I WOULD SUGGEST YOU NAME A PRICE.
IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE PRICE, BUT SOME, SOME PRICE THAT REFLECTS, UH, 'CAUSE OUR, OUR, OUR OBLIGATION AS A, AS A PUBLIC BODY IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET SOME SEMBLANCE OF MARKET VALUE.
AND I THINK THAT WILL ALSO, I MEAN THAT AS WE'RE LOOKING AT HOME OWNERSHIP OR THAT BRINGS A WHOLE ANOTHER LEVEL OF, UM, PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, YOU KNOW, TAKING CARE OF PROPERTY.
COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, YOU UH, ONE COMMENT TO START WITH.
I'LL THANK YOU FOR MENTIONING ALDERMAN ASHER.
I THINK ANYTIME THIS PROJECT COMES UP, GRATITUDE SHOULD BE EXPRESSED TO HIM CONTINUOUSLY.
'CAUSE HIM, HIM COMING TO US WITH THIS PRO LITERALLY SAYING, THIS IS WHAT I WANT TO DO AND THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO.
IT'S THE WHOLE REASON WE'RE HAVING THIS CONVERSATION RIGHT NOW.
SO ANYTIME THAT'S MENTIONED, I, I, I, I APPLAUD IT.
SO
UM, UH, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR ASKED ABOUT THE COST FOR THE PROJECT AND YOU GAVE A NUMBER THAT YOU WERE THINKING IS GONNA ROUGHLY COME IN FOUR 60, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
IS THAT OUR ALL IN COST OR IS THAT BASICALLY WHAT WE JUST PAID THE, UM, CONTRACTOR FOR THE BILL PROJECT? THAT IS THE BUILD PROJECT.
NOT THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST.
SO THE TOTAL DEVELOPMENT COST IS MUCH MORE THAN, UH, MUCH MORE THAN THAT.
'CAUSE THAT WOULD INCLUDE THE CLEARING OF THE LAND, THE, THE OLD GREENHOUSE AND, UH, ALL THAT.
AND I CAN CERTAINLY, IF GIVEN DIRECTION BY THE COMMISSION, I CAN CERTAINLY PUT THAT TOGETHER FOR YOU ALL.
FOR ALL THREE OR EACH? NO, FOR THE, WE BOUGHT ONE, THE WHOLE SITE.
WE BOUGHT IT BEFORE WE DIVIDE IT.
SO BY 38,000 IN PURCHASE PRICE AND THEN 20 SOME THOUSAND IN DEMO COST.
SO JUST TO KIND OF HAVE EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE FOR THE BUILD, WE DO COME OUT TO THE GOOD, BUT OVERALL FOR THE PROJECT, THERE'S STILL VERY MUCH GONNA BE A, A LOSS ON IT, WHICH I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR.
BUT JUST FROM A, FROM A REALITY STANDPOINT, I DON'T WANT ANYONE TO KIND OF COME AWAY WITH A PERSPECTIVE THAT WE'RE, WE'RE RAKING IN CASH OFF DOING THESE PROJECTS.
UH, DO WE NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THESE PROJECTS IN THE SAME, I GUESS, ALL TOGETHER WITH HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING THE TREATMENT? BECAUSE MY THOUGHT
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PROCESS IS THERE MAY BE SOME APPETITE FOR DOING THEM, HAVING ONE THAT MAY BE AFFORDABLE, ONE THAT IS MORE MARKET.AND I'M, AGAIN, REFER BACK TO YOU COMMISSIONER PRO.
I REMEMBER A COMMENT BEING MADE ABOUT WE ARE NOT REALLY ACCOMPLISHING ANYTHING IF WE PUT AN INCOME RESTRICTION ON EVERY SINGLE PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT WE BUILD OURSELVES.
WE WANNA SERVE THE COMMUNITY, WE WANNA HELP THE FOLKS OUT THERE.
BUT IN THAT SAME VEIN, IF YOU'RE PUTTING AN INCOME RESTRICTION ON IT, THEN YOU ARE LIMITING ANYONE ELSE FROM OUTSIDE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD MOVING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, AND THEN DO WE HAVE TO TREAT THEM ALL THE SAME AS FAR AS IF THERE WAS A MENTION OF A, A NONPROFIT PARTNER? DO WE HAVE TO LOCK THAT IN RIGHT NOW AND SAY THAT IF WE WANTED TO WORK WITH A NONPROFIT, WE HAVE TO DO ALL THREE OF 'EM TOGETHER? I GUESS ARE WE PINNING OURSELVES IN, IF WE SET A SALES PRICE ON THAT RIGHT NOW AND SAY WE WANT ONE 60 AND WE USE THAT AS A PRICE AND GO FORWARD, IF WE THEN DECIDE TO DEAL WITH A NONPROFIT IN MASS FOR ALL THREE PROPERTIES, ARE WE HEMMED IN? NO, SIR.
UM, IF YOU SET A PRICE TODAY AND FACTS CHANGE, MARKET CONDITIONS CHANGE, A MAJORITY OF YOU ALL CAN CHANGE THAT DECISION.
UM, AS FAR AS CONDITIONS MIGHT GO, DEPENDING ON YOUR NONPROFIT OR PUBLIC AGENCY THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO WORK WITH, THE CONDITIONS CAN MAKE THE PROJECT AND HOLD MORE ATTRACTIVE OR LESS ATTRACTIVE DEPENDING ON WHAT PUBLIC PURPOSE THEY'RE CARRYING IN IT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH, SHARON, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT'S ANYTHING ELSE FOR YOU? UH, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, COMMISSIONER
UH, AND AT A VERY LIMITED, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU RIDE THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THE MAJORITY OF THE BLIGHT THAT I YOU SEE IS LACK OF MAINTENANCE OF THE PROPERTIES AND OUTBUILDINGS AND JUNK CARS.
I MEAN THEY, THEY CONTRIBUTE THE MAJORITY OF THE LIGHTING CONDITIONS THAT YEAH.
THAT I'VE OBSERVED OVER, OVER THE YEARS.
AND I THINK IT BEHOOVES US TO DO WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T BECOME A POSSIBILITY FOR THAT, THAT AREA.
THAT'S MY, THEY'RE MY COMMENTS, BUT OKAY.
WHO, UM, IF WE DID THAT, WE'RE THE ONES THAT ENFORCE IT.
IT'S NOT LIKE A CITY CODE, IT'S, IT'S JUST A COVENANT IN THE LAND.
SO THEN IT JUST GETS BROUGHT BEFORE US AND WE TRY TO ENFORCE IT 'CAUSE IT'S MM-HMM.
SO YOU OR YOUR SUCCESSOR IN INTEREST WOULD ENFORCE THE COVENANTS.
HOWEVER, I THINK SOME OF THE COVENANTS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPOSED IN THE PAST WERE VERY SIMILAR TO OUR NUISANCE ABATEMENT CODE RESTRICTIONS.
UM, SO EVEN IF YOU ALL DIDN'T ENFORCE THOSE TYPES OF COVENANTS YOURSELVES, THERE ARE OTHER GOVERNMENTAL ENFORCEMENT MECHANISMS THAT COULD DO SO NOT ENFORCE THE COVENANTS, BUT REMEDY THE ISSUE.
SO IF WE, LET'S JUST THINKING AHEAD, IF WE SAY YOU CAN'T BUILD, YOU KNOW, AN OUTBUILDING MORE THAN X PERCENT OF THE PROPERTY, 'CAUSE I MEAN, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO LET 'EM HAVE A LAWN MOW SHED IF THEY WANT ONE.
BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, YOU SAY YOU CAN'T JUST BUILD LIKE ONE, TWO, OR THREE DOWN AS SOMETHING BUILT TO THE VERY EDGE OF THEIR PROPERTY AND IT'S LIKE JUST PLYWOOD AND IT LOOKS TERRIBLE IF YOU, UM, IF YOU DO THAT WITH THE BUILDING, SO IF THEY GO TO PUT ONE ON THEIR PROPERTY, WOULD THE BUILDING INSPECTOR WHOEVER BE ABLE TO STOP THEM FROM DOING THAT? NO, MA'AM.
THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE A BUILDING PERMIT TO DO IT, TO DO AN OUTBUILDING.
WELL, DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE OUTBUILDING, WE DON'T HAVE BUILDING PERMIT SIZE, THE SIZE AND COST.
BUT THE, THE INSPECTIONS DEPARTMENT WOULD NOT ENFORCE.
THEY WOULD ENFORCE CITY ORDINANCES.
I DON'T THINK THAT'S A REASON NOT TO DO THEM.
I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW NO, I'M GONNA CREATE A, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S GOOD TO PUT THEM THERE.
SOMETHING THERE TO SHOW FOLKS.
I MEAN, I THINK WE'VE IDENTIFIED THE MAIN THINGS LIKE NO OUTBUILDINGS LARGER, I DON'T KNOW WHAT PERCENT, BUT I DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE JUST WANNA SAY NO OUTBUILDINGS.
I THINK WE CAN SAY YEAH, I, I'M, I'M NOT PRO I WOULDN'T THINK SO EITHER.
BUT I THINK WE CAN LIMIT THE SIZE AND, UH, AND CARS REQUEST THEM TO BE THE SAME COLOR AS THE HOUSE, EITHER BY PAINT OR SIDING MATERIAL OR WHATEVER, SO THAT THEY, THEY ALL BLEND IN AND CREATE THE CHARACTER OF THOSE,
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OF THE, YOU KNOW, LITTLE MINI NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THERE, THOSE THREE HOMES AND SET SOME STANDARDS FOR SOME, MAYBE SOME OTHER PEOPLE DOWN THE STREET, UH, AS, AS THEY WANT TO MOVE ON TO SOMETHING LIKE THAT.IT'S, UM, YEAH, I'M, I'M NOT SAYING WE PROHIBITED, I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO OFFER SOME GUIDANCE ON HOW IT WOULD BE DONE AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET ANCHORED INTO THE GROUND, UH, SO THEY DON'T BLOW AWAY WHEN NEXT HURRICANE COMES ALONG AND TEAR UP HOUSE, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
IT'S, IT'S, AND THEN MAINTENANCE.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT I MEAN, WHAT I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DO.
THE MAINTENANCE IS YEAH, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
I MEAN, THAT WE'VE GOT THE GRASS MOWING OR LIKE WE HAVE STUFF IN THE CITY FOR LAWNS.
SO, UM, AND, AND WHAT YOU MIGHT BE INCLINED TO DO, IF COVENANTS ARE SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL, UM, FEEL STRONGLY ABOUT IS YOU MIGHT GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO BRING SOME LANGUAGE BACK TO YOU TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS THAT YOU'VE ARTICULATED.
AND MAYBE WE STILL CAN PUT 'EM ON THE LIST.
UM, BUT JUST SORT OF WHEN YOU'RE TALK, I MEAN, IS IT INAPPROPRIATE FOR WHEN HE'S TALKING TO FOLKS, SAY LIKE, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, X, Y, Z RESTRICTIONS IF WE HAVE A CONSENSUS OR WHATEVER.
SO, SO FOLKS ARE, YOU KNOW, UH, GIVEN A HEADS UP THAT WE'RE, YOU CAN'T JUST PUT A WHOLE BUILDING, YOU KNOW, BUILD THE WHOLE BACK OF, IF THERE'S CONSENSUS FROM A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS THAT YOU WANT TO IMPOSE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS TO ADDRESS CERTAIN TYPES OF BLIGHT, UM, MR. HUFF CAN CERTAINLY TAKE NOTE OF THAT DIRECTION AND WE'LL BRING YOU BACK SOME LANGUAGE.
AND IF PEOPLE HAVE CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THE PROPERTIES AND WHAT THE, THE BOARD'S INCLINATION IS, HE CAN CERTAINLY MENTION THAT TO THEM.
AND ANYONE WHO HAPPENS TO BE WATCHING, WE'LL BE ABLE TO HEAR IT DIRECTLY FROM YOU ALL AS WELL.
I HAVE A QUICK COMMENT IF I MAY.
I, I WAS GETTING READY TO COME TO YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE THE LAST ONE
UH, WE TALKING ABOUT THREE HOUSES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, IN ORDER FOR THAT TO BE ENFORCED IN RESTRICTED COVENANTS WOULD NEED TO, I THINK WOULD NEED TO CUT THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH PROBABLY THE IMPOSSIBILITY NOW I'M NOT FOR SURE.
MENTIONED, PUT A RESTRICTION ON THIS, WHAT YOU TO GO ABOUT THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT TO DO.
AND PEOPLE, YOU'RE RIGHT, WE CAN ONLY CONTROL WHAT'S WITHIN OUR YEAH.
AND LIKE I SAID, PEOPLE PUT UP THINGS OR OBJECTS, THE BUILDING INSPECTOR MAY NOT EVEN KNOW.
SO WHO GONNA PATROL THAT? AND I'VE SEEN IT DONE.
AND, UH, IF YOU CAN CONSIDER THAT A SUBDIVISION, YOU GOTTA HAVE A MEETING AT THE HOMEOWNERS IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO, UH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT WAS CONSIDERED A, A SUBDIVISION PART OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD THOUGH IT JUST LOST ADDED ONTO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT'S WHAT PULLS ME ABOUT THE RESTRICTED COVENANTS.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER WE CAN DO IT WITHOUT INCLUDING THE WHOLE NEIGHBORHOOD OR NOT.
UM, THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS WOULD ONLY ATTACH TO THE PROPERTIES THAT THE COMMISSION OWNS.
UM, AND THE COMMISSION WOULD ENFORCE THOSE COVENANTS.
THE COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE THE POWER TO APPLY RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS TO PROPERTIES.
WHAT THE COMMISSION CAN DO IS RECOMMEND ORDINANCE CHANGES, UM, TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT TYPES OF BLIGHT THAT ARE WITHIN THE GOVERNMENT'S PURVIEW.
WHICH YOU ALL HAVE DONE IN THE PAST, WHICH IS WHY THE REDEVELOPMENT OVER, UH, OVERLOAD, UH, EXISTS TODAY.
SO, UH, IT'S CERTAINLY CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING.
UM, SO WE HAVE ALL THREE PROPERTIES AND WE CAN EITHER HAVE ONE MOTION IF WE'RE IN AGREEMENT FOR ALL THREE.
AND THE, THE, THE ISSUE IS, ARE WE, UM, CONS, WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING IS PUTTING THEM ON THE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE LIST.
AND WITH THAT CONSIDERATION OF, OF PUTTING THEM ON THE AVAILABLE PURCHASE LIST IS SETTING A PRICE, A MINIMUM BID.
SO THE PRICE WE SET WILL BE THE MINIMUM BID.
WHICH COULD STAND, IT COULD GET OVERTURNED.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY CONTROL OVER THAT.
AND DID I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY THAT ANYONE WHO WANTS TO PURCHASE IT THEN COMES BEFORE US? JUST LIKE ANY OF THE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT THEY, ACCORDING TO YOUR EXISTING POLICY? YES.
SO WHETHER IT IS A ONE, ONE PERSON PER, UM, PROPERTY OR A NONPROFIT THAT WANTS TO PURCHASE ALL THREE OR SOMEBODY THAT WANTS TWO OUT OF
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THREE, THEY WILL COME TO US WITH THAT.UNLESS YOU DECIDE YOU WANT TO DEVIATE FROM THAT POLICY.
ARE WE GONNA LIST THOSE PROPERTIES TO AN AGENCY OF WHAT'S THE PROCESS THAT WE ARE GOING TO USE AS FOR, AS SELLING THOSE HOUSES? OKAY.
UM, THE STATUTES AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION STATUTES OUTLINE THE PROCESSES BY WHICH THE COMMISSION CAN CONVEY PROPERTY.
UM, ORDINARILY AND GENERALLY, UM, THIS, THIS COMMISSION HAS, UM, MADE PROPERTIES AVAILABLE FOR SALE BY UPSET BID.
THERE'S A LIST THAT'S PUBLISHED ON THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'S WEBSITE AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING ANY PROPERTY OWNED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WOULD SUBMIT AN OFFER, A WRITTEN OFFER TO PURCHASE CONSISTENT WITH THE STATUTE.
THAT HAS BEEN THE MOST COMMON PRACTICE UTILIZED.
AND I'LL DIRECT YOU TO THE, THE CHART, UM, THAT I'VE, I'VE HANDED OUT DURING THE, THE VARIOUS TRAININGS THAT WE HAVE.
THERE'S SOME OTHER METHODS THAT CAN BE UTILIZED, BUT UPSET BID HAS BEEN THE METHOD THAT HAS BEEN UTILIZED MOST CONSISTENTLY.
SO I THINK, ARE YOU ASKING LIKE, IS IT, WILL THIS BE ON THE MLS? I ASSUME NOT.
IT WILL NOT, IT'S, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S PUBLIC PROPERTY.
IT'LL BE ON OUR SELLABLE LOTS LIST ON THE CITY'S WEBSITE, WHICH WE'RE, IT'S THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, BUT THE CITY HAS PUT OUR LIST ON THEIR MAIN PAGE, I BELIEVE SO YOU CAN SEE IT BOTH PLACES.
SO TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THEY WILL NOT BE ON THE MLS.
UH, IS THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE NO COMPUTER ACCESS AND THERE'S A BUNCH OF FOLKS IN THERE WHEN THAT HAVE NO COMPUTER ACCESS.
SO I DO KEEP A LIVE PAPER COPY AT MY OFFICE ANYTIME.
AND, UH, IF THEY MAKE AN APPOINTMENT WITH ME, I'M HAPPY TO DRIVE AROUND AND GIVE 'EM A WHOLE TOUR OF ALL THE PROPERTIES WE HAVE AVAILABLE.
SO DIRECT 'EM MY WAY, I'LL HELP 'EM OUT.
I, I THINK MAYBE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, DO WE WANT TO PUT FOUR SALE SIGNS OUT IN FRONT OF THE YARDS? IS THAT WHAT, SO THAT MORE OR LESS YES.
WITH A CONTRACT NUMBER IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO, TO MOVE THESE PROPERTIES TO THE SELLABLE PROPERTIES LIST, UM, THEN YOU CAN GIVE STAFF DIRECTION TO PUT FOR SALE SIGNS OUT IN THE FRONT YARDS AND, UM, HAVE THEM CONTACT MR. HUFFER DEVELOPMENT SERVICES IF THEY HAVE ANY INTEREST AND TO MARKET THEM IN WHATEVER WAY YOU DIRECT THEM TO DO SO.
BUT THE FIRST THRESHOLD ISSUE IS DO ONE, TWO OR ALL OF THESE PROPERTIES GO ON THE LIST.
AND IF THEY DO, AT WHAT MINIMUM BID PRICE? UH, I'LL ASK THE QUESTION, ARE WE READY TO DEAL WITH THIS OR, I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS BEING FLOATED.
DO WE WANT, IS THIS, I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION AND THEN I'LL BE READY TO DEAL WITH IT.
SO IS THIS THE UPSET BID PROCESS? THEY HAVE TO PUT DOWN A PERCENTAGE OF WHAT WE SAY THE MINIMUM BID IS CORRECT.
SO THAT, SO WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE? I'M SORRY, WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE? STATUTE SAYS YOU HAVE TO PUT DOWN 5%, UM, ON THE FIRST, I THINK IT'S $1,000, BUT THERE'S A METHODOLOGY THAT'S LAID OUT IN YOUR OFFICE OF PURCHASE FIRM THAT LETS PEOPLE KNOW WHAT THEY HAVE TO PUT DOWN.
CAN ANYBODY DO A BALLPARK OF THE MATH ON $160,000 HOUSE? WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO
SO IT'S NOT 5% SIX, DOES IT FIVE? 'CAUSE I HEARD SOMETHING ABOUT 5% OF THE FIRST THOUSAND AND THEN THERE'S A STAIR STEP UP.
SO IF, WELL THAT'S, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT LIKE TYING UP 25 GRAND FOR TWO.
YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN? LIKE A HUGE AMOUNT.
'CAUSE THERE THAT TAKES OUT SOME OF YOUR AFFORDABILITY OR THERES MM-HMM.
SO THAT'S NOT, FOLKS DON'T HAVE THAT KIND OF MONEY SITTING AROUND AND A LENDER'S NOT GONNA GIVE IT TO YOU RIGHT.
SO IT MIGHT TAKE OUT SOME THAT ARE LIKE FHA IF THAT NUMBER IS PROHIBITIVELY HIGH.
SO THERE'S SORT OF A REASON IF WE THINK WE'RE GONNA GET, HAVE NO ISSUE GETTING THE APPRAISED VALUE, THAT'S A REASON TO START SOME AT THREE QUARTERS VERSUS JUST, JUST THE THOUGHT.
'CAUSE BUT I, I DON'T KNOW THE PERCENTAGE.
BECAUSE IF YOUR LOW INCOME PERSON DOESN'T HAVE THAT MONEY, THEY CAN'T, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE ACCESS TO $8,000.
THEY CAN'T TAKE PART IN THE PROCESS.
IN ORDER TO PLACE A DEPOSIT, YOU HAVE TO PUT 5% OF THE BID PRICE.
SO THERE'S A SOLID FIVE, IT STOPS AT FIVE, THE INITIAL BID IS 5%, AND TO UPSET THAT BID, THEN THERE'S A CALCULATION ABOUT THE FIRST THOUSAND.
YOU CAN'T JUST SAY $5,001, YOU HAVE TO DO CORRECT.
A NEXT, THE NEXT INCREMENT THAT'S ALLOWED.
SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT.
SO FORESHADOWING WHAT A PROCESS MIGHT LOOK LIKE IF HE'S HIT THAT LIST WITH A NUMBER.
THERE COULD POTENTIALLY, I'M JUST ONE HOUSE, FIVE PEOPLE INTERESTED IN IT.
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WE GOT FIVE PEOPLE IN FRONT OF US NEXT MEETING, MAKING THEIR PRESENTATION FOR THEIR BID.THEY ALL GONNA BE AT THE SAME MINIMUM BID NUMBER.
IS THE HIGHEST ONE AT THAT POINT GONNA COME IN FRONT OF US? THAT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION.
I THINK, UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I, I WOULD DEFER THE CITY CLERK HAS MANAGED MM-HMM.
AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE CITY'S PROCESS HAS BEEN WHEN YOU RECEIVE MULTIPLE OFFERS LIKE ON THE SAME DAY.
UM, WHICH ONE MAKES IT TO THE BOARD? I'M NOT SURE, UM, FROM A, JUST A LOGISTICAL STANDPOINT.
SO I, I, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION AND BRING IT BACK TO YOU.
AND MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO UTILIZE WHATEVER PROCESS THE CITY UTILIZES.
WE HAVE TALKED OVER A LONG PERIOD OF TIME ABOUT MAKING CONTACT WITH DIFFERENT, UH, NON-PROFIT AGENCIES REGARDING THESE HOUSES.
WHAT, WHAT IS THE STATUS OF THAT? UH, A LOT OF INTEREST.
UM, UNFORTUNATELY NO, UNTIL THESE, UNTIL THESE HOUSES ARE PLACED ON A SELLABLE LIST, UH, NO OFFER CAN, CAN BE, UH, ENGAGED IN.
SO WE EFFECTIVELY, UH, AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT ON THE SELLABLE LIST, NO ONE CAN MAKE A BID.
SO NO ONE CAN GO ANY FURTHER THAN WHERE THEY ARE NOW.
WE CAN'T NEGOTIATE IT WITHOUT THEM BEING ON THE SHOVEL LIST.
STEP ONE IS, ARE THEY FOR SALE? IF THEY'RE NOT FOR SALE FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BECAUSE THEY'RE PUBLIC PROPERTY, THEY'RE NOT FOR SALE FOR ANYBODY.
SO FOR EXAMPLE, OKAY, CITY HALL IS NOT ON THE CITY SELLABLE LOCKS LIST.
SO IF SOMEONE CAME TO MAKE AN OFFER TO PURCHASE CITY HALL, IT'S NOT FOR SALE.
THAT OFFER WOULD NOT BE ACCEPTED AND NOT VERY MUCH OF ANY CONVERSATION WOULD BE HAD.
SO TO HAVE ANY FURTHER CONVERSATION WITH ANY OF THE INTERESTED PARTIES THAT HAVE FILLED MY VOICEMAIL BOX FOR A COUPLE OF MONTHS NOW,
AND ZEEB, HAVE YOU GOTTEN ANY SENSE, UM, HAVE YOU TALKED THROUGH THE DEPOSIT PROCESS WITH ANYBODY IN THE UPSET BID? THAT'S JUST WHAT WORRIES ME.
I DON'T KNOW A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THAT LIKE CASH SITTING AROUND AND THEY CAN'T GET IT FROM A LENDER YET.
AND, AND SO I, I DON'T WANT TO BE PREMATURE IN, IN MY COMMENT.
SO, UH, THERE ARE MECHANISMS WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR AN AFFORDABLE DOWN PAYMENT, UH, TO, TO, TO BE SECURED.
UH, WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE CITY CLERK SIGNS OFF ON IT.
SO, UH, WE, WE, WE'VE WORKED THAT WE'VE WORKED THROUGH, UH, THE GENERAL STATUTE AND GOTTEN VERY CREATIVE AND HOPEFULLY WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING CONFIRMED.
UM, BUT AGAIN, ONE, ONCE WE HAVE SOMETHING TO CONFIRM, YEAH.
I'M JUST, I'M THINKING, I, I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE READY.
I DON'T KNOW WHY WE WOULD WAIT ANOTHER MEETING.
I THINK I WAS JUST THINKING BETWEEN SIX AND 8,000 THERE.
IT, THAT IS A DIFFERENCE, BUT IS IT BIG ENOUGH TO CHANGE THE MINIMUM PRICE? I, I WILL SAY FOR INDIVIDUALS, JUST AS A, A BROAD PIECE OF INFORMATION, UH, FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BETWEEN, UH, UNDER 80% OF, UH, A MI HERE FOR, FOR THIS MARKET, UH, AND HAVE A CREDIT SCORE ABOVE SIX 40, THEY'RE ELIGIBLE FOR SOME OF THE STATE'S DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE.
AND THE WAY THAT THAT HAPPENS IS WHEN, WHEN THEY'RE APPROVED, THEY GET A GENERAL BOND WHICH GUARANTEES THAT DOWN PAYMENT.
UM, AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE PIECE WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO SEE HOW IT FITS IN THE, UM, IN THE GENERAL STATUTE THAT, DID I SAY THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR.
YOU CREDIT SCORE OF SIX 40 YES.
AND THOSE PREFERRED LENDERS THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, THAT, THAT YOU ASKED, UH, BASICALLY THEIR WHOLE, UH, THEIR WHOLE BUSINESS MODEL IS BUILT ON HELPING INDIVIDUALS GET TO THAT SIX 40 THRESHOLD.
AND THEY ARE TWO BEDROOM HOUSES.
SOMEBODY READY ENOUGH TO MAKE A MOTION? I WILL MAKE A MOTION TO ADD ALL THREE LOTS.
1000, TWO, 1004 AND 1006 WALK BELLA AVENUE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, SELLABLE LOTS LIST, UM, WITH A STARTING BID OF $160,000.
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WE HAVE A MOTION.JUST TO BE CLEAR, BECAUSE THERE IS A DIFFERENCE IN EACH ONE OF THE APPRAISALS THAT BETH MENTIONED, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO SAY THE APPRAISAL PRICE? YEAH.
AND WITH OUR CONSIDERATION FOR OUR STANDARD OR STAFF TO GIVE CONSIDERATION FOR OUR USUAL CAVEATS FOR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS, AS WELL AS THE OUT PARCEL LIMITATIONS, NOT LOCKING ANYTHING IN, BUT JUST MENTIONING AT LEAST FOR CONVERSATIONAL PURPOSES THAT THAT'S ON THE TABLE.
SO HOW DO WE OFFICIALLY I WILL CHANGE MY MOTION TO
SO I THINK WE NEED TO HANDLE 'EM SEPARATELY THEN IF WE'RE DOING SECOND, THAT WOULD BE MY RECOMMENDATION.
SO THE MOTION AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, IS TO MOVE, UM, THE THREE PROPERTIES ON WAT BELLAMY DRIVE TO THE SELLABLE PROPERTIES LIST WITH A MINIMUM BID OF ONE 60.
I THINK I'M HEARING NOW THAT, UM, COMMISSIONER TER, YOU WANNA MODIFY THAT MOTION SO THAT EACH PROPERTY, THE MINIMUM BID WILL BE ITS APPRAISED VALUE.
RIGHT? SO THAT WOULD BE 161,000 FOR 1002.
WALT BELLAMY, 163,000 FOR 1004 WALT BELLAMY.
MM-HMM
DOES EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND THAT MOTION? AND I'LL SECOND IT.
AND WITH THE GIVING STAFF DIRECTION, JUST GENERALLY WE'LL GET TO THE STAFF.
ALL RIGHT, WELL, THAT'S MY MOTION.
AND THAT'S YOUR SECOND MR. YES.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
AND THE MOTION IS TO, I'M JUST GONNA RECAP IT FOR MY OWN BENEFIT IS THAT EACH PROPERTY WILL SELL AT ITS APPRAISAL PRICE AS THE MINIMUM BID.
NOW, I KNOW WE'VE JUST BEEN DISCUSSING IT, BUT AFTER THE SECOND, WE PROBABLY NEED TO OPEN IT BACK UP FOR DISCUSSION, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA ASK YOU IF WE WANNA PUT COVENANTS ON IT OR DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST AND, AND COME UP WITH THE LANGUAGE FOR THAT.
IS THIS, I THINK, DIDN'T STEVE ADD THAT TO THE WELL, IT WASN'T A PART OF OUR FIRST MOTION.
SO WE PROBABLY NEED TO VOTE ON THE FIRST MOTION, SO MY
OR, OR NOT, OR YOU CAN JUST GIVE STAFF DIRECTION, CORRECT.
TO BRING, BRING, UM, CONDITIONS, LANGUAGE BACK TO YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND ADOPTION AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND YOU CAN ALSO DIRECT STAFF THAT, UM, ANY POTENTIAL OFFER SHOULD BE ADVISED THAT THESE PROJECTS, UH, THESE, THESE HOMES MAY BE SUBJECT TO CERTAIN RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS IN THE DEEDS, WHICH IS ALREADY IN YOUR OFFICE OF PURCHASE DOCUMENT.
IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? JUST PREEMPTIVELY.
I SEE A LOT OF HEAD SHAKING, SO I'M GONNA TAKE THAT.
I'M LIKE EVERYBODY, WE, WE HAVE DISCUSSED IT.
SO WE WILL GO WITH A ROLL CALL.
AND NOW JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR, GIVING STAFF DIRECTION TO COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME LANGUAGE FOR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS TO ADDRESS OUTBUILDINGS JUNK CARS, OUTBUILDINGS AND JUNK CARS, UM, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW AT THE NEXT MEETING.
IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE? MM-HMM.
AND THAT IS, THOSE TWO ITEMS ARE USUALLY WE PUT COVENANTS ON EVERYTHING WE MAKE AVAILABLE FOR PURCHASE.
SO I THINK THAT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT WE, WE'VE BEEN DOING FOR YEARS.
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SO WE'RE ALREADY, WE'RE ON THE NEXT.I LIKE HOW ALL THREE OF THOSE ROLLED INTO ONE AGENDA ITEM.
UM, IT'S BACK TO YOU, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THE STAFF REPORT.
GOOD EVENING, REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
IT'S GOOD TO BE WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
UH, I WANTED TO BRING TO YOUR ATTENTION, UH, A COUPLE OF CALENDAR ITEMS. NUMBER ONE, UM, NEXT WEEK ON THE 16TH, UH, THE INTERNATIONAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL, UH, WILL HOLD A FOCUS GROUP AT 10 O'CLOCK.
YOU SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED AN EMAIL.
UH, IF ANY OF YOU ARE, UH, ARE AVAILABLE, YOU ALL HAVE BEEN INVITED.
SO IF YOU CAN ANSWER THAT EMAIL AND LET ME KNOW THAT, UH, THAT YOU'D BE ABLE TO ATTEND.
UH, I KNOW THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT
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ARE ALWAYS CLOSELY, UH, TIED TOGETHER.SO THE, UH, THE VOICE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WOULD BE A, A VERY, UM, IMPORTANT ONE.
UH, THE FOLLOWING DAY ON, ON APRIL 17TH, UH, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, WILL BE HOLDING, WELL, WE WILL BE HOSTING A COMMUNITY HOUSING ROUND TABLE AT THE HOUSING, UH, AUTHORITY.
UH, SEVERAL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT I'VE, UH, HAD THE PLEASURE OF, OF WORKING WITH AND TALKING TO, UH, SUGGESTED THAT WE GET TOGETHER AND, AND POOL AND, AND TALK ABOUT HOW WE COULD POOL OUR RESOURCES TO BRING AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO NEW BERN.
UH, SO IT'LL BE A, UH, PRIME, UH, PRELIMINARY CONVERSATION, BUT IT'LL BE AN IMPORTANT ONE.
AND ANY COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE AVAILABLE TO COME, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO, TO COME.
THAT DISCUSSION WILL BE HELD FROM 1130 TO ONE O'CLOCK, AGAIN AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND A LUNCH WILL BE SERVED.
UM, THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SHARE IS THAT, UH, 2 0 9 BRYANT STREET CLOSED, UH, PRO PROCEEDS, UH, HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED TO THE RRDC, UH, WITH THE PURCHASE PRICE OF $5,650.
UH, THE NET PROCEEDS MINUS THE ADVERTISING COSTS ARE $5,456 AND 80 CENTS, WHICH WILL BE ADDED TO OUR, UH, GENERAL BALANCE.
UH, THE GENERAL REVENUE FOR THE YEAR 2324, UH, WITH THIS SALE IS $22,378 IN PROPERTY SALES, UH, FOR THIS COMMISSION THIS FISCAL YEAR.
AS A MATTER OF HOUSEKEEPING, IN REVIEWING OUR, UH, RECORDS WITH THE CITY CLERK, UH, WE HAVE ONLY ONE COMMISSIONER, UH, YET TO FILE A STATEMENT OF DISCLOSURE.
AND SO I WOULD JUST, UH, ENCOURAGE MR. DI HUNT IF YOU CAN GIVE ME, UH, YOUR STATEMENT OF DISCLOSURE, UM, AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
I DO HAVE ANOTHER COPY IF YOU NEED THAT COPY.
UH, WE, WE'D LOVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE 100% IN COMPLIANCE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, UM, WITH OUR GENERAL STATUTE, UH, AT YOUR DIRECTION, AT OUR LAST MEETING, YOU, UH, DIRECTED ME TO, UH, FIGURE OUT A MECHANISM WHEREBY WE COULD BEGIN TO COMPILE A INTERESTED BUYER'S LIST.
I HAVE BEGUN THE PROCESS WORKING WITH OUR PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER, AND WHAT IT WILL TURN INTO IS AN ENTIRE WEB, UH, WEBPAGE REVAMP THAT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE USER FRIENDLY.
WE'RE GOING TO, UH, PUT SOME, UH, PICTURES OF OUR LOTS, UH, SO THAT PEOPLE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT INSTEAD OF JUST AN EXCEL SHEET.
UH, YOU WILL RECALL AN EMAIL, UH, IN THE LAST WEEK WHERE I ASKED YOU ALL FOR, UH, YOUR SMILING FACES.
AND I AM PLEASED TO SAY THAT YOU HAVE ALL, UH, UH, ANSWERED THAT EMAIL.
AND IF YOU HAVEN'T, I STOLE FROM YOUR FACEBOOK, SO THAT'S OKAY.
UH, UH, AND SO THAT WILL BE, WOW, YOU GOT THE RIGHT PICTURE.
UH, THAT WILL BE INCLUDED, UH, ON THE, ON THE WEBPAGE SO THAT THE PUBLIC HAS AN IDEA OF WHO THIS BODY IS AND THE WORK THAT WE DO.
AND SO, UH, I ANTICIPATE WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS, CERTAINLY BEFORE THE CLOSE OF SUMMER, WE'LL BE LAUNCHING THE NEW WEB, UH, WEBPAGE, WHICH WILL BE WAY MORE INTERACTIVE AND INCLUDE A MECHANISM WHEREBY WE CAN BEGIN, UH, TO COLLECT A DATABASE OF INTERESTED BUYERS.
UM, LAST THING, MAY 30TH, THERE WILL BE A TOWN HALL WITH COMMISSIONER, UH, B SMITH AT SIX 30 AT THE SENIOR CENTER, AND SHE HAS EXPRESSLY INVITED THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TO COME, UH, AND, UH, BE INVOLVED IN THAT CONVERSATION.
SO IF YOU'D LIKE ANY MORE INFORMATION ON THAT OR WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THAT, UH, PLEASE SEE ME AFTER THE MEETING.
CAN YOU SAY THE DATE AGAIN FOR THAT? UM, MAY 30TH.
AND AT THIS POINT I AM OPEN FOR QUESTIONS.
I HAVE A QUESTION OR COMMENT IF I MAY.
UH, THE HOUSE ON WALK BELLAMY, THEY'RE BEAUTIFUL HOUSES.
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FOR THREE BEDROOM HOUSES AND BEING IN THE BUSINESS, I GET MORE CALLS FOR THREE BEDROOMS AND, UH, IF HUD BY, I THINK THE MARKET PROBABLY FOR THREE BEDROOM HOUSES, 1450 FOR TWO BEDROOM HOUSES, 1250.SO I THINK WE NEED TO REALLY NEED TO CONSIDER BUILDING THREE BEDROOM HOUSES VERSUS THE TWO BEDROOM HOUSES.
AND, UH, THE FIRST AVENUE PROJECT I WOULD, TALKING TO THE, UH, DIRECTOR, I WOULD ADVISE ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS TO RUN DOWN FIRST AVENUE AND GET THEM MAYBE IN YOUR MIND WHAT CAN BE DONE TO IMPROVE THIRD AVENUE.
THERE'S ONE HOUSE THAT THE CPG PROGRAM BUILT, I THINK TWO OR THREE YEARS AGO.
IT'S A HOUSE WORTH LOOKING AT, THREE BEDROOM HOUSE IN THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, SINCE THAT'S A ONE BEDROOM.
SO I WOULD ADVISE THE COMMISSIONERS TO LOOK AT THAT AND LOOK AT ALL THE VACANT LOTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE ON THE FIRST AVENUE.
I THINK THE PROJECT WORTHWHILE TO INVEST IN THAT.
THAT'S ON, I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT.
THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS, MADAM CHAIR.
THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.
UM, WELL, AND COMMISSIONER DI HUNT HAS JUMPED INTO OUR NEXT ITEM, WHICH IS THE NEW BUSINESS.
SO, UH, TAKE YOUR COMMENT OUT OF THE STAFF REPORT AND PUT IT INTO THE NEW BUSINESS.
I, I THOUGHT YOU OH, QUESTION.
AND THAT THATM JUST, UM, MM-HMM.
AND IS THERE ANY OTHER, UM, NEW BUSINESS, WOULD ANY OF THE, UM, ARE THERE ANY PROJECT TEAMS THAT NEED TO BRING UP ANY, UM, INFORMATION OR A PROGRESS OF, OF ANYTHING AND WEST A STREET, UH, GIVE YOU A BRIEFING, THE HOUSES ARE GONE AND SOME, SOME OF THE TREES ARE GONE, SOME MORE NEED TO GO.
UM, WE ARE KIND OF WAITING FOR TITLE REPORT THAT'S IN THE WORKS, MR. PARAGO.
UM, THOSE PROPERTIES HAVE CHANGED HANDS A NUMBER OF TIMES IN A VERY BRIEF AMOUNT OF TIME.
UM, SO THAT, THAT PROJECT IS A LABOR OF LOVE
SO I, I HOPE, UM, TO BE ABLE TO REPORT BACK WITH YOU WITH THE TITLE OPINION, UM, VERY SOON.
BUT IT IS A PROCESS THAT IS TAKING ME SOME TIME.
AND THAT'S MAINLY ON THE, THE PIECE THAT WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY? NO, SIR.
IT'S MAINLY ON THE PIECE THAT YOU GOT FROM A, A PRIVATE DEVELOPER FROM THE SEVEN 10.
SO THERE, THERE WAS NEVER ANY TITLE WORK DONE WHEN THAT WAS GIVEN TO US.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED A QUICK CLAIM DEED FROM SEVEN 10, UM, ABOUT 10 DAYS INTO MY TENURE IN THIS POSITION.
AND AT THAT TIME, UM, THIS COMMISSION WAS ORIENTED VERY DIFFERENTLY AS FAR AS A STAFF AND SUPPORT ROLE.
SO I CANNOT SPEAK AS TO WHAT, IF ANYTHING, UM, PREVIOUS STAFF DID BEFORE ACCEPTING THAT DEAL.
BUT YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE COUNTY PIECE ALSO? YES, SIR.
BUT SO THE, THE HOUSES, THE STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN DEMOLISHED.
AND TO THAT END, I DO JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, UH, FOR THE RECORD TO PUBLIC WORKS, UH, THAT EXPEDITED THAT FOR US.
AND, UH, UH, GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO THE FIRE, UH, THE FIRE DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAD A BURN TRAINING, UH, BEFORE THEY WERE DEMOLISHED AND THEY DIDN'T BURN DOWN ANY OTHER HOUSE EXCEPT THE ONE THEY WENT TO
I WAS GONNA ASK HOW THAT WENT.
SO I ASSUME THE RAILROAD STUFF WENT FINE OR IS THAT PART OF JAMIE'S ANALYSIS? I THINK THAT'S PART OF MY ANALYSIS.
AND THE SURVEYOR, THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE SURVEYOR ALSO WILL BE ABLE TO CLARIFY BOUNDARIES OF YEAH.
ALRIGHT, AFTER THE SURVEY COMES THE SUBDIVISION FOR THAT, WELL, THAT'LL BE IN THE SCOPE OF WORK.
THERE'LL BE A LIST OF
AND, AND IT GOES TO, UH, HOW WE GO ABOUT THAT.
IT WILL ALSO, UH, HOW MUCH, WE'LL FIND OUT EXACTLY HOW MUCH LINEAR FRONTAGE WE HAVE ON THIS ROAD, SO WE KNOW WHAT KIND OF LOT THE, UH, YIELD WE'LL GET OUT OF THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND ALSO THE FACT, AS JIMMY MENTIONED, WE HAD ALREADY TALKED ABOUT HAVING, UH, A MIX OF TWO
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AND THREE BEDROOM HOUSES THERE TO EXPAND THAT MARKET A LITTLE BIT.UH, SO THEY MIGHT REQUIRE A LITTLE, LITTLE MORE SPACE.
SO WHAT WE'LL HAVE TO HAVE TO BLEND ALL THAT TOGETHER INTO A SITE PLAN.
YOU HAD A GOOD UPDATE FOR US TONIGHT.
ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS AROUND THE ROOM? COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND, COMMISSIONER BRYANT PROCTOR.
UM, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, WE DON'T HAVE A NEED TO GO TO CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT.
SO THAT LEADS US TO THE LAST AGENDA ITEM.
SHALL I HAVE A AND A SECOND? UH, MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN.