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[I. CALL TO ORDER]
CALL TO ORDER THE APRIL 18TH MEETING OF THE NEWBURN PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.UM, KENDRICK, CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, SIR.
BOARD MEMBER IS SUNNY A LUSO HERE.
BOARD MEMBER RUSTY INGRAM HERE.
BOARD MEMBER KEVIN KAISER HERE.
AND BOARD MEMBER THOMAS BROWNELL.
LET THE RECORD SHOW HE'S ABSENT.
PRESENT AND WE DO HAVE A QUORUM.
ALRIGHT, WELL EVERYBODY PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF OUR COUNTRY.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE.
[IV. CHAIRMAN’S REMARKS]
SHARE AND REMARKS HERE.ALL THE BOARD MEMBERS GOT A COPY OF A RULES AND PROCEDURES.
SO, UM, IT'S BEEN, UM, DISCUSSED NOW FOR SEVERAL MEETINGS THAT I FELT LIKE THIS, THIS BOARD NEEDED SOME RULES AND PROCEDURES WE GOT A MONTH OR SO AGO FROM KENDRICK AND, UH, AND ROBERT.
UM, FOUR DIFFERENT COPIES OF SOME EXAMPLES FROM AROUND THE STATE.
UM, I TOOK IT UPON MYSELF AND KIND OF BARGED ALL THOSE TOGETHER INTO ONE DOCUMENT AND THEN ADDED A COUPLE THINGS IN THERE.
AND THOSE, A COUPLE THINGS I WANTED TO, TO GO OVER WITH YOU BRIEFLY HERE.
UM, FIRST IS THE, UM, THE, THE TERM OF THE CHAIRPERSON.
UH, CURRENTLY I'M COMING UP ON ONE YEAR OF BEING CHAIR.
THERE ARE, UH, TO MY KNOWLEDGE, NO TERM LIMIT OR ANYTHING, UH, FOR CHAIR.
AND SO WHAT I PUT INTO HERE WAS A YEARLY REELECTION AND BE ABLE TO BE REELECTED AS LONG AS THEY'RE ON THE BOARD.
UM, SPEAKING FOR MYSELF, UH, I'M A LOT BETTER AT THIS TODAY THAN I WAS, UM, WHEN I STARTED.
UH, IT TAKES A LITTLE WHILE TO GET GOING AND TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCEDURES AND WHAT'S HAPPENING.
AND NOW THAT WE'RE OVER HERE AT THE, UH, CITY HALL, UM, THAT HAS ITS OWN LEVEL OF THINGS, UH, THAT THAT BRINGS TO THE TABLE.
SO, UM, JUST SOMETHING TO BE, TO THINK ABOUT.
I'M UP TO OPEN FOR ANY DISCUSSION AND I WANT, UM, TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK MAYBE BY EMAIL.
UM, TO ME, I'LL TRY TO INCORPORATE AND WRANGLE ALL THIS WITH THE CITY AND, UM, SO THAT THE NEXT MEETING WE CAN GO HAVE A, HAVE A REAL DISCUSSION WITH EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD, MAKE IT A LINE ITEM AND VOTE TO PASS SOMETHING SO WE GET SOMETHING ON THE RECORD.
UM, YEAH, NOW THAT YOU GUYS ALL HAVE IT, I'M JUST GONNA, I'M GONNA GONNA LEAVE THAT HERE.
THAT WASN'T, UH, THAT WASN'T THE PLAN.
KENDRICK GOT AHEAD OF ME, SO THAT'S COOL.
UM, SO CAN I ASK A QUESTION? SURE.
SO FOR THIS PARTICULAR DOCUMENT, DO YOU WANT TO PROVIDE THIS ELECTRONICALLY AND HAVE US MAKE COMMENTS TO IT? DO YOU WANT TO, ARE YOU INTERESTED IN COMMENTS FROM THE BOARD? I CAN, ABSOLUTELY, I CAN, I CAN DO THAT.
THE, THE WHERE IT GETS WEIRD, UM, ACCORDING TO, TO LEGAL IS THAT WE CAN'T ALL REPLY ALL TO THE COMMENTS, RIGHT? 'CAUSE THEN IT'S KIND OF LIKE A LITTLE PSEUDO MEETING, RIGHT? SO IT'S KIND OF, YOU GOTTA, I CAN'T OPEN IT UP IN LIKE A GOOGLE SHARED DOC.
'CAUSE THEN EVERYBODY CAN SEE IT.
SO I CAN SEND EVERYBODY A WORD DOC AND YOU CAN HIGHLIGHT IT, CHANGE, SEND IT BACK TO KENDRICK WITHOUT A COPY.
BUT YOU, BUT YOU CAN ADDRESS SOME NUMBER AND LETTER FOR EACH COMMENT.
IT, I, EITHER WAY, YEAH, I I CAN DO THAT.
UM, AND THEN JUST SEND IT BACK TO ME AND I'LL COMPILE EVERYTHING AND THEN WE CAN GO THROUGH THAT AT THE NEXT MEETING IF THAT WORKS OKAY FOR EVERYBODY.
UM, AND YEAH, I DO WANT, UM, MAYBE IN THE RULES AND PROCEDURES, UM, TO PUT SOMETHING IN THERE THAT KIND OF DIRECTS NEW MEMBERS ON WHAT THE BOARD IS WHERE TO FIND INFORMATION.
I KNOW WHEN I JOINED THE BOARD, THEY, I WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE, WELL, HERE YOU GO.
SO, UM, MAYBE A KIND OF A WELCOMING EMAIL OR SOMETHING.
THIS IS THE NEW LAND USE ORDINANCE.
HERE'S THE, WHERE YOU FIND THE ZONING MAP IS THE WHERE THE MEETING, YOU WEREN'T GIVEN A BOOK.
AND, AND THAT'S NOT KENDRICK'S FAULT.
UM, THAT, THAT WAS, THAT WAS THE PREVIOUS GROUP
UM, SO, UM, BUT YEAH, AND, AND EVEN AS A, YOU KNOW, AS, AS AS CHAIR HERE, YOU GO OFF THE RACE.
SO, UM, THAT, THAT NEEDS TO BE TIGHTENED UP.
UH, WE ARE HERE AT THE, UH, AT THE COURTHOUSE.
THIS IS A DIFFERENT PLACE THAN MEETING OVER AT THE OTHER BUILDING IN THE MORE INTIMATE AREA.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT ALL BOARD MEMBERS ARE COMFORTABLE, UM, AND THAT YOUR, YOUR VOICES ARE HEARD.
UM, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOUR VOICES ARE HEARD, UH, CERTAINLY TO ME AND TO THE CITY.
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I, I JUST, I FEEL LIKE SOME OF THE DISCUSSIONS THE PAST COUPLE WEEKS HAVEN'T BEEN AS MUCH.SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE NOT COMFORTABLE, UM, YOU KNOW, REACH OUT OR GET COMFORTABLE, IT'S OKAY.
I KNOW THE CAMERA'S POINTING DIRECTLY AT US NOW AND NOT THE BACKS OF OUR HEADS.
UM, I'VE HAD PEOPLE REACH OUT TO ME NOW, THEY'D SEE ME ON TELEVISION.
UM, BUT WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT.
UM, DOES, DOES THE BOARD, IT'S NOT ONLY AGENDA TONIGHT, DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON ANYTHING THAT I SAID OR ANY OTHER KIND OF NEW BUSINESS OR ANYTHING BRIEFLY TO, TO BE DISCUSSED? THANK YOU.
UM, HEARING NONE, UM, I'M JUST GONNA MOVE TO THE NEXT
[V. COMMENTS]
ITEM.I HAVE A NUMBER FIVE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE WE GOT A, MAYBE A COUPLE ADDING ON HERE, BUT, UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH, OH, UH, REAL QUICK.
UM, PLEASE DIRECT YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD OR TO CITY STAFF.
AND WE'RE GONNA RUN A CLOCK, UM, AT FOUR MINUTES EACH JUST TO KEEP THE, THE, THE MEETING GOING.
UM, SO JOE ZO, DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS? PLEASE COME UP TO THE MICROPHONE.
COMMENT PERTAIN TO ACTION ITEM C.
I NEED YOU TO COME UP TO THE, UH, TO THE, THE MICROPHONE AND STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS PLEASE.
UH, NO, I HAVE A QUESTION AND I'M GONNA WAIT UNTIL THE ITEM C IS PRESENTED UNTIL, UH, I ASK THAT QUESTION.
IS THAT PERMISSIBLE? WELL, THERE IS, THERE'S NO OTHER COMMENT EXCEPT DURING, RIGHT NOW FOR, FOR THE PUBLIC.
WELL THEN MY PARTICULAR COMMENT ITEM C IS, UH, WE GOT A, WE GOT A LETTER WITH A, A ROUGH DIAGRAM, BUT I DON'T SEE THE LOT PARTIALS ON THERE.
UH, HE SAID THERE WAS A LOT DIAGRAM AVAILABLE.
UH, IS THAT GONNA BE PRESENTED TONIGHT? YES, THERE'S A SITE PLAN FOR THAT ITEM THAT'LL, IT'LL BE THROUGH THE ACTUAL POWERPOINT.
SO, AND I'LL LEAVE THE, UH, SLIDE FOR THAT SITE PLAN THAT SHOWS WHERE THE LOT INDICATIONS ARE GONNA BE.
I'LL LEAVE THAT OUT AS IT'S BEING DISCUSSED.
WELL, I CAN'T MAKE A COMMENT UNTIL I SEE WHERE THOSE LOTS ARE GOING.
'CAUSE WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR PROPERTY, WE LIVE ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, ON ONYX LANE AND WE WERE TOLD THAT THAT LAND WAS NOT GONNA BE DEVELOPED.
THE, UM, THE BOARD COULD VOTE TO OPEN A PUBLIC COMMENT DURING THAT.
LET'S, LET'S DO THIS, LET'S, LET'S HAVE A COMMENT, ANSWER EACH ONE OF THESE AFTER THE MAPS ARE PRESENTED SO PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT I, I MOVE THAT WE DO THAT WE, UH, HAVE A COMMENT AFTER EACH PARCEL ALSO ISSUE.
A MOTION IS TO MAKE COMMENT AFTER EACH ITEM.
MM-HMM,
SO THE NEW MOTION IS THAT THREE MINUTE, UH, WELL EACH INDIVIDUAL WILL HAVE THREE, THREE MINUTES TO, UH, FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THAT MOTION.
SO WE WILL, UM, INSTEAD OF DOING THE PUBLIC COMMENT HERE, WE WILL MOVE ON TO DOING IT AFTER EACH ITEM, IF THAT.
[VI.A. West New Bern Phase 3 (General Plan)]
WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX A, THE WEST NEWBURN PHASE THREE GENERAL PLAN.KENDRICK, DO YOU HAVE A BRIEF FOR GOOD EVENING, MRS. CHAIRMAN, AND GOOD EVENING TO THE BOARD.
SO I'LL BEGIN BY PRESENTING OUR FIRST AGENDA ITEM HERE.
THIS IS WES NEWBURN PHASE THREE.
UH, IT'S THE GENERAL PLAN FOR WEST NEWBURN PHASE THREE AND DESIGNATED MIKE IS NOT ON.
LET ME SEE IF I CAN TRY TO FIX IT.
I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS ON, IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE IT'S ACTUALLY ON PERIOD, SO, UM, TESTING THAT'S BETTER.
OKAY, LET ME, I'LL TRY TO KEEP IT AS CLOSE AS I CAN.
SO SEE YOU DON'T, HERE, THIS IS A GENERAL PLAN FOR WEST NEWBURN PHASE THREE AND IT'S DESIGNATED AS CSP 0 0 2 816 DASH 2023.
AND THE REQUEST SUMMARY HERE, THE APPLICANT IS SCOTT ANDERSON.
THE OWNER IS WEER REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT COMPANY AND THE LOCATION IS AT OR NEAR CLOCK ROAD.
UM, THIS IS WITHIN NEW NEWBURGH, NORTH CAROLINA.
AND THE EXISTING ZONING CURRENTLY IS RESIDENTIAL SIX OR R DASH SIX.
THE SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 45.33 TOTAL ACRES.
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AND JUST A QUICK OVERVIEW, UM, THE PROPOSAL OR THE PROPOSED IS FOR 130 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES AND IS INTENDED TO BE A PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT.UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED, AGAIN, RESIDENTIAL SIX.
AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY, UM, ESTABLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAND USE ORDINANCE AND IT'S PER ARTICLE NINE WITHIN OUR LAND USE ORDINANCE.
AND THE PURPOSE, OF COURSE FOR RESIDENTIAL, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS ESSENTIALLY TO ESTABLISH COMFORTABILITY, UM, HEALTHY, SAFE, AND PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT.
UM, THIS IS AGAIN, JUST READ FROM THE LAND USE ORDINANCE.
SO, AND HERE FIRST, UH, IN TERMS OF THE MAP IS A VICINITY MAP, AND THAT'S JUST TO KIND OF GIVE YOU THE LOCATION FOR THE PARCEL THERE.
UM, ANOTHER ADDED BIT TO KIND OF GIVE FURTHER EXPLANATION, EAST, OR IT IS LOCATED EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 43 AND WEST NEW BERN PARKWAY.
AND THEN, UH, ADDITIONALLY THE, IT'S THE EAST SIDE OF CHARLES DRIVE.
SO SOME OF THIS MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT 'CAUSE THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN MAPS.
GIS ISN'T FULLY UPDATED WITH SOME OF THE STREET NAMES THAT HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED.
SO THAT'S WHY WE TRY TO GIVE SOME MORE INFORMATION THERE.
AND THAT'S FOLLOWED BY A BUFFER MAP.
AND WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE TO SHOW THE DISTINGUISHED AREA OF THE A HUNDRED FOOT BUFFER, UM, SURROUNDING THE THREE PARCELS.
AND THEN THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP, UH, FOR THE ACTUAL PROPERTY ITSELF.
AND THAT'S FOLLOWED BY THE ZONING MAP AND IT REFLECTS THAT R DASH SIX, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
AND HERE IS THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN, AND THAT'S PROPOSED AT LEAST REGARDING THE UNITS TO BE ESTABLISHED.
AND THE, UM, SUBDIVISION ITSELF AND STAFF'S EVALUATION FOR THIS, UH, THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE STATE OF NEW BERN'S, UH, LAND USE ORDINANCE.
AND ALL COMMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
SO I'LL LEAVE THIS ON THE SITE PLAN, UM, BUT IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME.
BOARD, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? HEARING NO QUESTIONS.
DOES THE, UH, APPLICANT HAVE ANY COMMENTS? AND I APOLOGIZE MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST ONE ADDITIONAL THING.
UM, MY COLLEAGUE, MR. MATTHEW SHELLEY, HE'S PART OF THE HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UH, SIDE OF THINGS, BUT HE MADE A REFERENCE THAT IT MIGHT BE THAT MY OTHER COLLEAGUE, UH, MS. DEANNA RE UM, HE EXPLAINED THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR A BIKE PATH.
IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT OR ANYTHING OF THE SORT, BUT FOR THE BIKE AND PED COMMITTEE, THIS MAY BE SOMETHING IF W HAER, UH, WOULD MAYBE APPROACH THEM OR TALK TO THEM ABOUT IT.
MAYBE IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD BE INTERESTED IN DOING.
I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT NOTE.
JUST SO THAT THE BOARD'S AWARE AND THE APPLICANT CAN BE AWARE AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS THE APPLICANT HERE.
WOULD THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK? SURE.
GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS SCOTT ANDERSON.
I'M HERE TONIGHT ON BEHALF OF WEYERHAEUSER CORPORATION.
UM, WE APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS PLAN.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS OUR THIRD PHASE OF RESIDENTIAL LOTS IN WEST NEWBURN.
WE'VE HAD A LOT OF SUCCESS AND I THINK, UM, HAVE HAD SOME GOOD DEVELOPMENT THERE PREVIOUSLY.
UM, SO CONTINUE, UM, WITH THAT, UH, DIRECTION.
AND AGAIN, 130 LOTS AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU HAVE.
MR. BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU.
UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON ITEM NUMBER SIX A? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE BOARD.
YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE OR DENY THE REQUEST.
I, I, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE PLAN AS PRESENTED.
[VI.B. Belle Oaks Phase VI (Six) (Final Plat)]
SIX B, BELL OAKS PHASE SIX.ALRIGHT, FOR OUR SECOND ITEM HERE ON THE AGENDA, THIS IS BELL OAKS PHASE SIX.
UH, IT'S THE FINAL PLAT AND THIS IS FOR SUBDIVISION.
UH, IT'S A MAJOR SUBDIVISION, EXCUSE ME.
SO IT'S SUBM AJ 0 0 2 8 5 6 20 24.
AND THE REQUEST SUMMARY FOR THIS ONE, UH, STARTS OFF WITH THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER.
THIS IS FOR BELL OAKS TWO LLC, AND THE LOCATION IS AT OR NEAR FISHING
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CREEK DRIVE, NEW BERN, NORTH CAROLINA.UH, THE EXISTING ZONING CURRENTLY IS ACTUALLY SPLIT.
IT IS RESIDENTIAL EIGHT AND IT IS ALSO A RESIDENTIAL 10 S AND THE SIZE IS APPROXIMATELY 8.215 TOTAL ACRES.
THE OVERVIEW FOR THIS PROPERTY, UH, THE PROPOSED IS A FOR 26 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES IS, AND IT'S ALSO INTENDED TO BE A PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT AS WELL.
UM, WE FOUND THAT ON APRIL 4TH, 2020, UH, PER THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, THE GENERAL PLAN WAS APPROVED FOR PHASES FIVE, SIX, AND ALSO SEVEN.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONED AGAIN AS R EIGHT AND R DASH 10 S AND THESE ARE ESTABLISHED DISTRICTS THAT ONCE AGAIN, THAT PERTAIN TO THE LAND USE ORDINANCE.
UH, THE PURPOSE ONCE MORE, JUST TO REITERATE, UM, FOR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IS TO ESTABLISH, ESSENTIALLY PROVIDE COMFORTABLE, HEALTHY, SAFE AND PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT TO, UH, WORK THROUGH FOR THE SUBDIVISION.
AND HERE IS THE VICINITY MAP PERTAINING TO THE PROPERTY.
UM, I'M GONNA GIVE YOU THAT DESCRIPTION AGAIN JUST AS PREVIOUS.
UH, IT'S EAST OF THE INTERSECTION OF RIVER ROAD AND BELLS WAY AND TRAVEL, OR IF YOU TRAVEL ON MARTIN LUTHER KING JR.
BOULEVARD TO TURN ONTO GREENLEAF CEMETERY ROAD.
UH, THIS IS FOLLOWED BY TURNING ONTO BELL OAKS DRIVE AND FOLLOW THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE IN ORDER TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY GET, UH, IN THAT VICINITY OR REACH THAT, UH, PART OF BELL OAKS.
SO HERE IS THE BUFFER MAP ONCE AGAIN, JUST TO REFLECT THAT A HUNDRED FEET, UH, FOR THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
AND THAT'S FOLLOWED BY THE AERIAL MAP, UM, LOCATED THERE.
AND YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE PROPERTIES OUTLINED IN RED.
AND LASTLY, THE ZONING MAP, WHICH REFLECTS THE TWO DIFFERENCES OF ZONING, UH, BETWEEN THE R DASH EIGHT AND R DASH 10 S.
AND HERE IS THE ACTUAL SITE PLAN THAT IS REFLECTIVE.
UH, WE'RE SHOWING ESSENTIALLY, EXCUSE ME, THE, THE PLAT, THE FINAL PLAT THAT'S SHOWING WHERE THE ACTUAL LOTS ARE STAFF'S EVALUATION.
UH, THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION AGAIN MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE CITY OF NEW BURNS, LAND USE ORDINANCE.
ALL COMMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
AND IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS FOR THIS ITEM, I'LL TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME.
BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK.
SO IN THE DRC COMMENTS, THERE WAS A COMMENT ABOUT THE STORM WATER MITIGATION.
AND YOU, YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR COMMENTS THAT'S BEEN ADDRESSED.
CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW IT'S BEING ADDRESSED? YES, I CAN.
SO BASICALLY WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT INSTANCE 'CAUSE STORMWATER, WHEN THEY'RE PROCEEDING TO THOSE DIFFERENT PERMITS, THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH THE STATE.
AND I BELIEVE PUBLIC WORKS IS ALSO TIED IN SOME SHAPE OR FASHION.
I DON'T KNOW IF THEY KIND OF JUST GET THEM TO WHERE THEY NEED TO BE.
UM, HOWEVER, BASICALLY THE STATE WORKS WITH THE APPLICANT AND IT'S A CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THEMSELVES AND THE STATE TO PROCESS THOSE PERMITS.
NOTHING WILL BE PUT FORWARD UNTIL THEY RETAIN THE PERMITS THAT THEY NEED TO FROM THE STATE.
AND, AND I'M SORRY, I DON'T, I'M NOT UP TO SPEED ON WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE STATE AND ALL THE STORM WATER REQUIREMENTS.
UM, WHAT KINDS OF, WHAT, WHAT KINDS OF THINGS DOES THE PERMIT STATE? DOES IT STATE THAT THEY HAVE A PLAN FOR MITIGATION OF THE STORM WATER? 'CAUSE IN THE COMMENTS IT STATES THAT FISHING CREEK DRIVE HAS FLOODED IN RECENT RAINS.
SO DO THEY HAVE A PLAN TO MITIGATE THAT AMONGST THAT AREA? THEY HAVE TO WORK THAT OUT THROUGH, UH, THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE, WHOMEVER IS GOING TO BE OVERSEEING THEIR PROJECT.
AND SO ONCE THEY ACTUALLY SUBMIT, UM, EVEN PENDING THAT YOU ALL APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT, IT STILL MAY GO THROUGH SOME DIFFERENT VARIATION WITH THE STATE.
THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR THAT IF THERE'S A, SOME TYPE OF, UM, PROBLEM THAT THEY DISCOVER PERTAINING TO THE STORM WATER.
SO THAT'S HOW I UNDERSTAND IT.
I DON'T REALLY, WELL AT LEAST WE DON'T HAVE INVOLVEMENT PARTICULAR BETWEEN CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND THE STATE.
THEY JUST HAVE TO GO FORWARD WITH TRYING TO MAKE SURE THEY MEET ALL THE STATE'S, UH, STANDARDS.
BUT THEY BASICALLY HAVE TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE STATE AND THE STATE ISSUES A PERMIT.
THEY DON'T MOVE FORWARD UNTIL THAT PERMIT IS ISSUED AND RECOGNIZED BY THE CITY.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? ALL RIGHT, THANKS KENDRICK.
HEARING NONE, I WILL OPEN IT UP AGAIN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT OR ITEM SIX B OR IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
HEARING NONE, I WILL, UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
WE APPROVE THE, THE FINAL PLAN, UH, UNDER SIX B FOR BELL OAKS PHASE SIX
TAKE KYLE SECOND ON THIS ONE SINCE YOU SECONDED ALREADY.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
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OPPOSED.[VI.C. Chambray at Carolina Colours (Final Plat)]
SIX C CRANBERRY AT CAROLINA COLORS.KENDRICK, PLEASE, UH, GIVE US BRIEF.
AND UM, I'M GONNA MOVE ON TO THE LAST ITEM FOR THE AGENDA.
THIS IS, UH, I WANT TO, I DON'T WANNA BUTCHER THE NAME THERE.
I THINK IT'S CHABRA, UM, AT CAROLINA COLORS.
AND THIS IS THE, UH, SUBM AJ 0 0 2 8 5 7 20 24.
AND THE REQUEST SUMMARY HERE, STARTING OFF THE APPLICANT IS THOMAS ENGINEERING, UH, PA OR JOHN G. THOMAS.
THE OWNER IS OVERLOOK HOLDINGS LLC AND THE LOCATION IS AT OR NEAR BAYBERRY PARK DRIVE.
SO THAT'S WITHIN NEW BERN, NORTH CAROLINA.
THE EXISTING ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL EIGHT OR R DASH EIGHT.
AND THE, UH, TOTAL ACREAGE APPROXIMATELY IS 21.09.
THE OVERVIEW IS THE, THE PROPOSAL HERE IS FOR 27 SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES.
AND ON APRIL 5TH, 2020, PER THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, THE GENERAL PLAN WAS APPROVED.
UM, THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY AGAIN ZONED AS R DASH EIGHT.
AND THIS WAS ESTABLISHED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE LAND USE ORDINANCE, UH, AS A SPECIFIC DISTRICT.
AND THE PURPOSE OF A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, AGAIN, I KNOW YOU'VE KIND OF HEARD THE REITERATION, BUT, UM, FOR COMFORTABILITY, HEALTH SAFETY, UM, AND PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT.
AND JUST TO GIVE THAT DESCRIPTION ONCE MORE FOR THE VICINITY, UH, ADDED INTO THAT, IT IS WEST OF THE INTERSECTION OF HIGHWAY 70 AND WATERSCAPE WAY.
AND IF YOU TURN ONTO WATERSCAPE WAY FROM NORTH CAROLINA HIGHWAY 70 AND THEN TURN ONTO BAYBERRY PARK DRIVE, ESSENTIALLY THAT'S GONNA LEAD YOU INTO THAT UH, SECTION.
AND JUST TO MAKE CLEAR, THE BUFFER FOR THE A HUNDRED FEET WAS TAKEN IN TOTALITY FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE PROPERTY.
AND I KNOW YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT A SECTION, BUT WE HAVE TO TAKE IT IN ACCORDANCE TO HOW WE UNDERSTAND IT PER GENERAL STATUTE TO THE BUFFER.
UM, TAKEN IN TOTALITY WAS FOR THE ACTUAL ENTIRE PARCEL.
SO YOU CAN SEE THAT REFLECTED HERE, UH, WITH THE BLUE AND WHATNOT.
IS THAT WITH THE RED LINE? UH, THE RED LINE IS THE OUTLINING OF ENTIRE PROPERTY? YES MA'AM.
AND THE BLUE ESSENTIALLY IS THAT A HUNDRED FEET THAT WE TOOK, UH, TO MAKE SURE ALL DIFFERENT FOLKS THAT WERE AROUND IT WERE ACTUALLY NOTIFIED PROPERLY.
AND THAT'S WITHIN THE A HUNDRED FEET AND THAT'S FOLLOWED BY THE ACTUAL AERIAL AND WHERE YOU CAN SEE, JUST TO MAKE SURE TO KIND OF EXPLAIN IT, THAT SECTION THAT HAS THE DOTTED LINE GOING THROUGH THAT IS THE NEW SECTION THAT THEY'RE ANTICIPATING TO BEGIN OR START FOR, UM, NECESSARILY, OR ACTUALLY THIS IS THE FINAL PLAT, EXCUSE ME.
SO IT'S ALREADY BEING IMPLEMENTED IN SOME WAYS.
AND THEN THAT'S FOLLOWED BY THE ACTUAL ZONING MAP HERE.
AND THAT'S JUST REFLECTIVE OF THE R DASH EIGHT ZONING DISTRICT.
AND HERE IS THE SITE PLAN, WHICH SHOWS AND REFLECTS THOSE LOTS, UM, AND HOW THEY'RE GONNA BE DISTINGUISHED AND THE STAFF'S EVALUATION ONCE MORE.
UH, THE PROPOSED SUBDIVISION MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE CITY OF NEW VERN'S LAND USE ORDINANCE.
AND ALL COMMENTS FROM THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED ONCE AGAIN.
AND IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME.
SO THIS INFRASTRUCTURE'S ALREADY IN PLACE? YES, MA'AM.
THAT'S AS I UNDERSTAND IT AND HOPEFULLY I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT MAY BE HERE SO THEY CAN PROBABLY ANSWER MORE THAN WHAT I CAN.
UM, BUT YES, WOULD I HAVE ANY MORE COMMENT OR QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? OKAY.
UM, IF, IF THE APPLICANT IS HERE, WOULD THEY LIKE TO SPEAK? THREE MINUTES, SIR.
UM, REPRESENT OVERLOOK HOLDINGS.
MR. KIPP PARAGO IS ALSO HERE, UH, FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE DEVELOPER.
UM, MCKIM AND CREED ORIGINALLY DID THIS DESIGN.
WE WERE HIRED TO DO THE SUBDIVISION, UH, PLAT AND MAPPING.
UM, ALL THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS IN.
THERE'S BEEN NO, UM, UH, GUARANTEES NEEDED.
WHEN I WAS OUT THERE A WHILE AGO.
CITY ELECTRIC WAS ACTUALLY INSTALLING ELECTRIC FACILITIES, SIDEWALKS, OR END CURBS IN, UM, MAIL TEST HAD EVERYTHING.
UM, I BELIEVE WE'VE ANSWERED ALL THE COMMENTS FROM DEPARTMENT OF REVIEW.
UM, GENERAL PLAN, I THINK YOU SAID 2020.
SO THIS, THIS WAS APPROVED IN 2020.
I DON'T THINK THERE'S BEEN ANY SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES TO THE GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS APPROVED IN 2020.
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TO RESERVE THE RIGHT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS IF NEED BE.J IS MR. MS. MR. BILLINGSLEY? YES, MA'AM.
REGARDING THE PERFORMANCE, UH, BOND? YES.
CAN YOU ELABORATE ON THAT A BIT? UM, YES.
UH, WE TALKED TO PUBLIC WORKS, UM, DAN
UH, WELL WE DON'T HAVE A FINAL PLAT, SO WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THAT.
BUT, UM, AFTER THAT TIME, YES, THE ROADS WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE CITY.
SO YOU SAY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE'S IN MM-HMM.
CURB ASPHALT, UM, LEFT TREES ON LOTS.
UM, THIS, THERE'S ROADSIDE SWALES, UM, WATER, SEWER, ALL COMPLETE ACCEPTED, LIKE I SAID, CITY NEW BERN'S OUT THERE TODAY INSTALLING, UH, UH, ALL THE ELECTRIC FACILITIES, TRANSFORMERS, THAT SORT OF THING.
DOES ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE HAVE ANY COMMENT ON ITEM NUMBER SIX C3 MINUTES? UH, YES.
I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, BUT I, I'M HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THIS, UH, MAP.
UH, COULD WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF CLARIFICATION OF WHERE EXACTLY THOSE LOTS PROPOSED LOTS ARE GOING TO BE, UH, BUILT ON.
CAN IF YOU, HAVE YOU DROVE OUT THERE YET? EXCUSE ME? HAVE YOU DROVE OUT THERE YET? I LIVE THERE, YES.
BUT I MEAN, HAVE YOU DROVE THIS NEW ROAD? YEAH.
'CAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF ALREADY DESIGNATED OUT THERE.
UH, YEAH, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT.
UH, WHAT I'M ASKING IS, UH, I LIVE ON ONYX LANE AND I WANT TO KNOW IF THERE ARE GOING TO BE LOTS DEVELOPED ON ONYX ACROSS FROM OUR HOME.
UH, BECAUSE WE WERE TOLD WHEN WE BOUGHT THE PROPERTY THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE DEVELOPED.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH THE REST OF THE AREA.
BUT ON ONYX THERE, UH, WE WERE TOLD THAT WAS GONNA BE A PARK.
WELL, IF I'M LOOKING AT THIS CORRECTLY, THIS DOESN'T SHOW ANY LOCKS THERE, THIS PHASE.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR CLARIFICATION.
I CAN'T TELL BY THIS DIAGRAM WHERE THOSE LOCKS ARE GONNA BE PUT IN.
SO IT'S TURNED THIS WAY, IT'S TURNED, THERE IS A PARK.
IS THAT THE WEST SIDE FOR THIS DRAWING? KENDRICK? ISN'T THERE A PARK ON THE WEST SIDE? UH, GO AHEAD.
I I I KNOW YOU'RE GONNA SPEAK.
YEAH, MY NAME'S KI BARGO AND UM, I REPRESENT OVERLOOK HOLDINGS.
UM, THE AREA THE GENTLEMAN'S TALKING ABOUT IT IS NOT EVEN IS NOWHERE NEAR THIS.
IT'S, IT'S 51 LOTS FURTHER BACK INTO THE, INTO THE PROPERTY THAN PIECES THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, OUR FUTURE PLANS WILL MAINTAIN THE BLOCKS THAT, THAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT, BUT THERE'S THREE OF THEM THAT ARE 150 BY 50 OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IN FACT, ONE OF 'EM ALREADY HAS A PLAYGROUND ON IT.
AND, UM, THE, THE, THE, THE USING THE COUNTY DESIGNATION OF THAT BLOCK OF LAND, YOU ARE SENDING NOTICES TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE TWO MILES AWAY INSTEAD OF A HUNDRED FEET.
AND SO IT CAUSES A REAL PROBLEM TO FOLKS BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PROPERTY IS.
I MEAN, WE FIELDED LOTS OF CALLS FROM FOLKS THAT WERE, YOU KNOW, MILES AND MILES AWAY FROM THIS PROPERTY, UM, 'CAUSE OF THE PROCESS THAT WAS FOLLOWED.
BUT TO THIS GENTLEMAN'S DIRECT, UH, CONCERN, THOSE, THOSE THREE PARK BLOCKS WILL REMAIN THAT WAY.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS THAT THEY'D LIKE TO SPEAK? SURE.
COMP UH, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS.
I LIVE NEXT DOOR TO UH, UH, MR. JOE IZZO THERE.
AND I THINK KIP JUST CLARIFIED WHAT HAPPENED.
I THINK WE ALL GOT, UH, A NOTIFICATION INDICATING THAT THE AREA ACROSS FROM US WAS GONNA BE PART OF A DEVELOPMENT.
UM, AND THAT IS CERTAINLY, UH, UH, CONTRADICTORY TO WHAT WE HAD UNDERSTOOD AND WHAT THE PLAN WAS FOR THAT PROPERTY.
UH, BASED ON WHAT KIPP HAS JUST IDENTIFIED, IT SEEMS LIKE THE AREA THAT WE'RE SPEAKING ABOUT TODAY IS THE AREA THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SUBDIVIDED AND, AND CLEARED AND, AND READY TO GO.
SO I DON'T THINK, UH, I KNOW I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S ALREADY LAID OUT AND, AND WE EXPECTED THAT TO HAPPEN.
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IS THAT THOSE LOTS THAT WE WERE TOLD WERE GONNA REMAIN, UM, UH, NOT BUILDABLE AND JUST REMAIN PARK WILL REMAIN PARK.AND I THINK I JUST HEARD KIP CONFIRM THAT THAT'S GONNA BE THE CASE AND THAT SHOULD BE THE CASE GOING FORWARD.
AND I JUST HOPE THAT FOR FUTURE PLANS, THAT THAT'S ALSO CONSIDERED WHEN IT COMES BEFORE THE BOARD BECAUSE I DO EXPECT THAT TO COME BEFORE THE BOARD AT SOME OTHER TIME.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO WILCOX AND NOT HAVE THAT TRAFFIC GO THROUGH ALL THAT CONSTRUCTION TRAFFIC GO THROUGH, UH, SPRING GREEN AND, AND BAYBERRY.
UM, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THERE'S ACCESS TO WILCOX, BUT UH, UM, THAT, THAT CONSTRUCTION LEVEL OF CONSTRUCTION IS A LITTLE, A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT FOR EVERYBODY.
BUT, UH, UNDERSTAND THAT THAT DOES NEED TO BE BUILT OUT.
SO I THINK THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS.
NORTH CAROLINA JOURNAL STATUTE REQUIRES THE SUBJECT PARCEL, UH, HAVE THE PROPERTIES AROUND IT NOTIFIED.
SO BECAUSE THIS 20 SOMETHING ACRE PORTION WASN'T SUBDIVIDED OUT, YOU WERE FORCED TO NOTIFY EVERYBODY FROM THE ENTIRE SUBJECT PARCEL.
AND IF THERE'S ANY DEVELOPMENT IN THE FUTURE, THIS WILL HAPPEN AGAIN.
I LIVE AT 38 11 BURWOOD LANE IN CAROLINA COLORS, AND I AM ACTUALLY INTERESTED IN PURCHASING A HOME IN BAYBERRY PARK.
SO MY, THE PURPOSE OF ME ATTENDING THIS IS TO FIND OUT EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE DOING WITH THOSE PARCELS.
'CAUSE I ALSO GOT A NOTIFICATION.
AND MY QUESTION IS, UM, IS THERE ANY PLAN TO DO ANY KIND OF FENCING OR TREE IN BETWEEN? I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE PLAYING A CLEAR CUT OR IF SOME OF THOSE TREES ARE GONNA STAY OR, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLAN IS.
AND I WAS WONDERING IF SOMEBODY COULD EXPLAIN THAT STAFF HAD ANY COMMENT LATER BE THAT'D PROBABLY BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR MR. GIBB, UM, TO TRY TO ANSWER THAT.
AND HOW DO I DO THAT? IF SOMEONE, HE, HE, UH, RIGHT, KEEPS RIGHT BEHIND YOU, YOU COULD HAVE A DISCUSSION WITH HIM AFTER THE MEETING.
PERHAPS I DIRECT TACKLE IN AS HE'S LEAVING QUICKLY.
NOT SURE THAT I HEARD THE QUESTIONS.
WHY DON'T, UH, WHY DON'T YOU TWO YOU GUYS HAVE A CONVERSATION AND, AND, AND WE'LL MOVE ON.
DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, I WILL ENTERTAIN DISCUSSION OR A MOTION ON THIS ITEM FROM THE BOARD AND MR. CHAIR.
UM, ORDINARILY WE REQUIRE A PERFORMANCE GUARANTEE AT FINAL PLAN APPROVAL.
IT MAY BE THAT NONE IS REQUIRED, UM, BUT YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER A CONDITION THAT A PERFORMANCE GUARANTEE BE PROVIDED IF REQUESTED BY PUBLIC WORKS.
AND IT MAY BE THAT THAT PAPERWORK IS ALREADY IN PLACE.
I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THAT.
UM, BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO CONSIDER THAT.
WE CANNOT CONS, WE CAN'T CONDITION AN ADMINISTRATIVE APPROVAL.
AND PERFORMANCE GUARANTEES ARE TYPICALLY FOR INCOMPLETE, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE SUCH AS ROADS.
UH, WE PREVIOUSLY, UH, IN A DIFFERENT TIME WOULD DO AN ACCEPTANCE GUARANTEE, BUT THAT WAS PROVEN TO BE ILLEGAL.
SO AS LONG AS YOU ALL ARE SATISFIED THAT EVERYTHING IS BUILT OUT IN THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT IS COMPLETELY SATISFIED WITH THE INFRASTRUCTURE PROCEED.
HAS MR. CHOW SIGNED? CAN YOU COME TO MICROPHONE? EVERYTHING'S DONE.
SIDEWALKS ARE ALL IN BROCHURES OFTEN, UH, VESTED AND, UH, THE, UH, ENGINEER CERTIFICATES HAVE BEEN FORWARDED ALL THE, AS-BUILTS HAVE BEEN DONE.
SO THE CERTIFICATES HAVE BEEN FORWARDED? HMM? THE CERTIFICATES HAVE BEEN FORWARDED.
IS THAT WHAT YOU SAID? I I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.
YEAH, THE AS-BUILTS AND THE CER ENGINEER CERTIFICATIONS OF THE WATER AND SEWER SYSTEM AND SO FORTH ARE ALL, UH, HAVE BEEN COMPLETED.
SO JUST WANT THAT INFORMATION IN THE RECORD.
SO THEN I THEN WE'RE NOT GONNA PUT THAT CONDITION IN THE MOTION IF WE MAKE A MOTION.
UH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FINAL PLAT AS PROPOSED.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE.
THAT STILL, STILL LEARNING THE EQUIPMENT.
UM, UH, I'LL CALL FOR A, UH, UM, ALL THOSE FAVOR A MOTION SAY AYE.
WE WILL ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, I'LL MAKE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.