* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Call to order and Welcome] [00:00:03] MR. CHAIR, IT IS SIX O'CLOCK. OKAY. I'D LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE MAY MEETING OF THE CITY OF NEWBURG REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, AND WE'LL START WITH THE ROLL CALL. SHARON. BRIAN HERE. JIMMY DILLA HUNT. HERE. SARAH PROCTOR. HERE. ANDREW MORGAN JR. HERE. STEVE STRICKLAND. HERE. JULIUS PARHAM. TABARI WALLACE. BETH WALKER. KIP PARAGUAY. HERE. RICK PRILL. BARBARA BEST. HAZEL ROYAL. MR. VICE CHAIR. YOU HAVE A QUORUM. OKAY. THANK YOU, SIR. MM-HMM. [3. Mission Statement and Guiding Principles] . AND WE'LL START OUR MEETING OFF WITH OUR NORMAL RECITATION OF OUR MISSION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES. AND LET'S SEE, MR. STRICKLAND, SIR, WOULD YOU CARE TO READ THE MISSION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLE, THE MISSION STATEMENTS FOR US, PLEASE? YES, SIR. THE NEWBURN REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION LEADING THE WAY FOR THE COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT BY DIRECTLY ADDRESSING COMMUNITY NEEDS IN THE VITAL AREAS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO AN ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND PUBLICLY DRIVEN PROCESS. THANK YOU, SIR. MR. BILL HUNT, WOULD YOU BEGIN WITH THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES PAST AND PRESENT FUTURE EQUAL TIME NUMBER TWO, RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS. LISTEN TO BUILD CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION, STAY FOCUSED, BE ACTION ORIENTED. AND THEN ALTOGETHER BELIEVE [4. Consider Approving the Agenda.] TO MOVE DOWN TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR, OUR AGENDA IS THE CONSIDERATION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED BY STAFF TO US FOR CONSIDERATION THIS EVENING. SO, MOVE SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? COMMENTS? IF NOT ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. A. OPPOSED? [5. Consider Approving Minutes (April and closed session minutes)] OKAY. NEXT ITEM BEFORE US IS THE MINUTES OF THE APRIL 10TH, UH, 2024 MEETING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. HOPE EVERYONE'S HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THEM. AND ARE THERE ANY ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, CORRECTIONS, ADDITIONS, DELETIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO THE MINUTES AS PRESENTED? HEARING NONE, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES THAT PRESENTED. I MAKE A MOTION THAT THE MINUTES BE APPROVED AS READ, SECONDED, AND MOTION. AND SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? MINUTES ARE APPROVED. CLOSED SESSION MINUTES. ZEV, DO YOU WANT TO, WHAT IS THE DATE ON THOSE CLOSED SESSION MINUTES? UH, THE CLOSED SESSION MINUTES HAVE NOT BEEN REVIEWED BY ALL, ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS, UH, YET. SO THEY'LL, THEY'LL BE MOVED TO THE NEXT AGENDA, UH, TO THE JUNE AGENDA? CORRECT. OKAY. GREAT. THANK YOU. OKAY, [6. Consider unsealing closed session minutes] THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDAS, NUMBER SIX, CONSIDER UNSEALING CLOSED MISSION MINUTES STAFF. I, OKAY. THAT'S THE AGENDA ON MOTION, THE ONE YOU JUST GOT. OKAY. ALRIGHTY. MY APOLOGIES. THAT'S OKAY. I MUST HAVE PRINTED IT TOO EARLY IN THE SENDING. UM, THAT BRINGS US TO NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENTS. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COMMISSION TODAY? HEARING NONE, SEEING NO ONE APPROACH THE PODIUM, WE'LL [8.a. Walt Bellamy Drive Update] MOVE ON AND GO TO NEW BUSINESS. FIRST ITEM IN NEW BUSINESS IS WALT BELLAMY DRIVE UPDATE. WALT BELLAMY DRIVE UPDATE IS, UH, SIMPLY THAT THE HOUSES HAVE, UH, ALL BEEN CLEARED. THEY ARE NOW ON THE SELLABLE, UH, THE SELLABLE LIST, AND WE'VE HAD LOTS AND LOTS OF INQUIRIES, UH, FOR, FOR THEM. UM, WE DID HAVE A, UH, UH, UM, A LITTLE, UH, A LITTLE [00:05:01] SNAG IN THE FINANCING THAT I JUST WANTED TO BRING TO THE COMMISSION'S ATTENTION. UH, IN THE COURSE OF THE BUILDING, WE HAD, UH, A COUPLE OF CHANGE ORDERS. YOU ALL AUTHORIZED, UH, AUTHORIZED STAFF TO APPROVE THOSE CHANGE ORDERS. SO, SO LONG AS THEY DIDN'T EXCEED A CERTAIN LIMIT, THEY DID NOT. UM, HOWEVER, UH, IN IN PROCESSING THOSE CHANGE ORDERS, IT CAME IN THE LAST INVOICE AND, UH, FINANCE HAD ALREADY CLOSED OUT THE PROJECT. SO WE WILL, UM, WE WILL COVER THOSE, UH, CHANGE ORDER COSTS IN THE, UH, FROM THE GENERAL FUND AND RECOUP THEM, UH, AFTER THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY, UH, AFTER THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY. OKAY. UM, GOING BACK TO WAY BACK, MM-HMM. , UH, WE WERE ALLOCATED BY ALDERMAN ASTOR $537,000. AND OUR BUDGET WE PRESENTED, UH, WAS 480 SOME THOUSAND WITH IT. 10% CONTINGENCY FOR CHANGE ORDERS. MM-HMM. , WHAT, WHY DO WE HAVE TO PAY THIS OUT OF OUR GENERAL FUND IF THAT MONEY WAS ALREADY ALLOCATED OR SUPPOSED TO BE ALLOCATED? UM, THE, THE APPROPRIATION, UH, COVERED, UH, COVERED THE, THE CONSTRUCTION. AND, UH, AFTER, AFTER WE MADE THE, THE, THE REPORT THAT THE CONSTRUCTION WAS FINISHED, THAT REPORT WAS MADE BEFORE THE FINAL INVOICE. UH, THE APPROPRIATE, THE REMAINING BIT OF THE APPROPRIATION WAS REALLOCATED TO THE, UM, THE PEER PROJECT. I BELIEVE AGAIN, IT, IT, IT IS, IT, IT IS INCONSEQUENTIAL. UM, THE, THE, THE CHANGE ORDER AMOUNT WILL BE COVERED BY THE PURCHASER. UM, SO THAT IT, IT, IT WILL, IT WILL EVEN OUT. OKAY. UM, AND I, I, I, I, I WOULD REMIND THE COMMISSION THAT THE, THE ALLOCATION OR THE APPROPRIATION, UM, THAT CAME FROM THE, THE ALDERMAN IS TOTALLY AT THEIR DISCRETION. AT, AT ANY POINT IT COULD HAVE CHANGED. SO, UM, THAT AMOUNT, UH, WAS, WAS FOR THE ENTIRE, FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT FOR ALL THREE HOUSES WAS SLIGHTLY UNDER $8,000. SO IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THE WHOLE PROJECT, IT WASN'T, AGAIN, IT WASN'T A MAJOR CONSEQUENCE, BUT I DID WANT TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW, JUST SO YOU'RE ALL AWARE OF THE ACTIVITY HAPPENING. OKAY. GREAT. AND I THINK THAT WILL PROBABLY, THE REASON I ASK IS IT WILL SHOW UP IN THE FINANCIAL REPORT THAT YOU'RE BEGINNING LATER, SO WE MIGHT AS WELL ADDRESS IT HERE. ABSOLUTELY. I APPRECIATE THAT. OKAY. UH, ANY CHANCE TO BE TRANSPARENT? WE WANT TO TAKE IT FOR SURE. OKAY. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS IF I CAN ASK THEM. SURE. UH, WHAT WAS THE CHANGE ORDER PRICE AND WHAT WERE THE CHANGE ORDERS? UH, THE CHANGE ORDERS, UH, CONSISTED OF, UH, FLOORING CHOICES. UH, UH, ORIGINALLY WE HAD, UH, LINOLEUM FLOORING, UH, PLANNED FOR THE ENTIRE STRUCTURE. AND AFTER, AFTER REVIEW AND, AND WITH, UH, TALKING TO THE CONTRACTOR, WE DECIDED TO GO WITH, UH, THE VINYL PLANKS AND TILE IN THE, IN THE RESTROOMS. UH, AND THE OTHER CHANGE ORDER WAS A SECURED, UH, I DON'T KNOW THE WORD, YOU KNOW, THE DOOR IN YOUR CEILING TO GET ABOVE THE CEILING. WHAT'S THAT CALLED? KIPP? UH, . I'M PUTTING ACCESS DOOR. YEAH, THE ACCESS DOOR ACCESS. OH, WE, WE UPGRADED THOSE FROM, UH, WE UPGRADED THOSE FROM JUST A BOARD TO AN ACTUAL DOOR THAT CAN BE SECURED. SO THOSE WERE THE TWO CHANGE ORDERS. AND WHAT WOULD THE COST ON THAT? UH, AND THE COST FOR ALL OF THEM THROUGHOUT THE THREE HOUSES WAS JUST UNDER 8,000. UNDER 8,000 MM-HMM. GOT A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. WHAT DID YOU MEAN WHEN YOU SAID, UH, OKAY. THE CHANGE ORDERS. OKAY. OKAY. I JUST, OKAY. YOU ANSWERED THAT QUESTION. I'M SATISFIED. AWESOME. NO WORRIES. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ZEV ABOUT THE UPDATE ON THE WOKE BELLAMY HOUSING PROJECT? AWESOME. OKAY. [8.b. West A Street Update] THEN WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, WEST EIGHTH STREET UPDATE. AND I GUESS I SHOULD GIVE THAT UPDATE, UM, MR. DIVA HUNT AND MYSELF AND Z UH, [00:10:01] WENT OUT AND RODE TO THAT PROJECT, UH, YESTERDAY, MONDAY, SOMEWHERE THIS WEEK. THIS WEEK, THIS WEEK. HOW'S THAT? UH, OH, IT HAD TWO CHOICES THERE, AND I DIDN'T EVEN KNOW WHICH ONE IT WAS. UH, ANYHOW, AND LOOKED AT THE PROPERTY, IT HAS BEEN, AS WE HAD MENTIONED LAST TIME, ALL THE HOMES HAD BEEN DEMOLISHED AND REMOVED. UH, THERE HAS BEEN A, A FAIR AMOUNT OF CLEARING OF BRUSH ON THE PROPERTY. AND WE HAD A, A, A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT WE SHOULD DO WITH THE PROPERTY, UH, FROM THIS POINT FORWARD. THE, IN THE, IN THE INTERIM, WE HAVE SUBMITTED A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR SURVEY SERVICES. UH, YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, A SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS PRESENTED AND SENT OUT TO HOW MANY SURVEYOR. THEN, UH, WE HAVE, UH, WE HAVE, UH, RELEASED THE, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL TO FIVE, AT THIS POINT, THE FIVE SURVEYORS TO BID ON THE, THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WE ARE REQUESTING, WHICH CONSOLIDATES TWO PARCELS THAT CONSIST OF WEST A STREET BLOCK, AND THEN TO CREATE A, A RECOMBINATION MAP AND THEN TO SUBDIVIDE THE RECOMBINED PROPERTY. UH, PER OUR INSTRUCTION, OUR DISCUSSION ON THE SITE WAS WHAT SIZE HOME SITES DID WE FEEL LIKE WOULD FIT BEST IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ON THOSE SITES. AND THEY RANGED. WE HAD PRESENTED PREVIOUSLY, UH, PLANS OF 35 FOOT LOTS AND 40 FOOT LOTS. UH, MR. DIVAN, I BELIEVE YOUR, YOUR REC RECOMMENDATION WAS THAT WE DID 50 FOOT LOTS. YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND SO IT COMES DOWN TO A MATTER OF QUANTITY OF LOTS THAT, THAT THE, THE PARCEL WILL, UM, HANDLE. UH, AT 40 FOOT, THERE'LL, WE CAN GET SIX LOTS OUT OF THAT PARCEL. THERE'S 236 FEET OF FRONTAGE, I BELIEVE IS THE NUMBER. AND AT 50 FEET, WE CAN GET BASICALLY FOUR. SO THAT'S A DECISION THAT WE WILL ULTIMATELY HAVE TO MAKE WHEN THE TIME COMES TO INSTRUCT THE SURVEYOR IN, IN THE CREATION OF THE SUBDIVISION PLAT. UH, WE NEED TO CREATE AND GET ON RECORD BEFORE WE BEGIN BUILDING HOUSES THERE. TAKE ME TO WEST A STREET. OKAY. I THINK YOU HAVE SOME MAPS AND STUFF IN BEHIND THE CEMETERY. HERE WE ARE. THIS IS THE CEMETERY RAILROAD TRACK HERE. EAST ROAD STREET. OKAY. OFF OF EAST ROAD. MM-HMM. OKAY. ROAD STREET. BACK DOWN HERE THOUGH, IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE RAILROAD TRACKS THAT IS ON EAST ROAD STREET, THERE'S A PROJECT GOING ON BACK THERE NOW. YEAH, THAT'S BACK THIS WAY. IT'S CLOSER UP TOWARDS NATIONAL. THIS IS RIGHT. OH, THE OTHER CEMETERY? THIS IS RIGHT. YEAH. THIS IS THE OTHER CEMETERY THAT FRONT HERE. OKAY. OKAY. I'M, I'M FAMILIAR WITH, WITH WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ON THE OTHER CEMETERY, THE OTHER SIDE. MM-HMM. . OH YEAH, THAT'S THE GREENWOOD STREET DOWN THERE WHERE, UH, THE JACK. YEAH. ONE JACK CREEK. CREEK. YEAH. OKAY. STATION IS RIGHT. YEP. MR. VICE CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION OF THE SPIRIT OF BEING HELPFUL, YOU MIGHT WANT TO RECALL, UM, THAT THIS COMMISSION RECOMMENDED TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN SEVERAL YEARS AGO, THE ESTABLISHMENT OF AN OVERLAY DISTRICT AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BOUNDARY. WITHIN THAT OVERLAY, YOU HAVE SOME DIFFERENT DENSITY AND DIMENSION REQUIREMENTS. MM-HMM. THAT ALLOW YOU ALL TO HAVE LOT SIZES, UM, SMALLER THAN IN OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY IN CERTAIN ZONING CLASSIFICATIONS. AND ALSO THERE IS A PROVISION WITHIN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT THAT COVERS YOUR REDEVELOPMENT AREA THAT ALLOWS FOR ONLY ONE OFF STREET PARKING SPACE FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. SO AS YOU'RE REFLECTING UPON WHAT YOUR DESIRED LOT SIZE MIGHT BE, YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE THOSE THAT OVERLAY INFORMATION, UM, IN THE FRONT OF YOUR MIND, THE OVER THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 25 FEET MINIMUM LOT WIDTH. YES, SIR. MINIMUM LOT WIDTH. UH, THE KEY THING ALSO IN THE OVERLAY DISTRICT, 'CAUSE IT'S, UH, REGARDLESS OF THE ZONING CLASSIFICATION IN THE AREA, UH, YOU HAVE A FIVE FOOT SIDELINE SETBACK. SO IF WE, IF WE DID 40 FOOT LOTS WITH FIVE FOOT SETBACKS, WE COULD GET 30 FOOT WIDE HOUSES. UH, TO GIVE YOU SOME BASIS FOR CONSIDERATION, THE WALT BELLAMY HOUSES, UH, TWO OF 'EM ARE ON 42 FOOT WIDE LOTS. AND THEN THE CORNER LOT IS [00:15:01] WIDER BECAUSE WE WANTED MORE SETBACK 'CAUSE OF THE CORNER, UH, ASPECT THAN ONE SITTING RIGHT ON, ON THEIR CURB AT THE CORNER OF JONES STREET. SO, BUT THE OTHER TWO HOMES ARE ON 42 FOOT WIDE LOTS. OKAY. SO LISTEN TO WHAT YOU JUST SAID. BASED ON THE INFORMATION AND BASED ON THE STYLE OF THE HOUSES THAT WE ANTICIPATING ON DEALING THERE, I DON'T THINK THE LOT NEED TO BE MOVED NO MORE OR NO LESS THAN 40 ON WHAT IT TAKE TO THE BOTTOM UP. AND ANOTHER I THAT I'M COMING UP WITH, IF WE DECIDE TO BUILD THE HOUSES, LET'S, WE MAKE IT DO A CONTRACT DESIGN. LET THE CONTRACTOR DESIGN THE HOUSE TO FIT ON THE LOT, IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. DESIGNED, BUILD WHAT YOU CALL IT. MM-HMM. . AND WE MAKE, GET A BETTER PRICE OR BETTER DESIGN THAT WAY BASED ON THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. THAT'S SOMETHING WE WANT, MAY WANT TO THROW OUT THERE. I, INSTEAD OF JUST PICKING THE HOUSES THAT WE WANT THEM TO BUILD, LET THEM DESIGN THE HOUSES, SEE HOW MUCH IT COSTS. EVERYBODY THROW THAT DESIGN IN THE PARK, WE CAN PICK FROM THAT DESIGN BASED ON THE 40 FOOT OR 45 FOOT MARK. I DON'T THINK REALLY THERE NEED TO BE NO LESS THAN 40 FEET. YOU NEED A LITTLE BREATHING ROOM. WE DON'T WANNA MAKE A CLUSTER, YOU KNOW, YOU COUGHING, TALKING TO YOUR WIFE AND YOUR NEIGHBOR HERE OUT THE DOOR. WE DON'T WANNA CREATE THAT PROBLEM. AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SMALL LOTS, YOU CAN CREATE A PROBLEM. YEAH. IN MY OPINION. SO WHAT ARE THESE LOTS, UM, CONSIDER OF TWO BEDROOMS OR THREE BEDROOM HOUSES? OR COULD THEY BE UPSTAIRS OR SPREAD OUT TO THREE BEDROOMS? THEY, THEY CAN BE ANYTHING THAT WE DECIDE TO MAKE 'EM, UH, IF YOU WANT, SAY IF YOU WANTED SOME THREE BEDROOM HOUSES, THE EASIEST THAT MOST, UH, ECONOMICAL WAY TO DO THAT, A TWO STORY HOME. AND GENERALLY SPEAKING, THEY'RE A LITTLE NARROWER. SO THEY WOULD FIT ON THE LOTS, BUT STILL BE ABLE TO GET A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE. YOU KNOW, WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN TO THE POINT OF CHOOSING HOUSE PLANS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. WE'RE STILL TRYING TO GET OUR HANDS ON WHAT WE ACTUALLY OWN. UH, AND I'M GONNA ASK THEM A THOUSAND DOLLAR QUESTION HERE IN A MINUTE ABOUT THE TITLE OPINION, UH, ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY, SO THAT WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN A, A SITUATION WE CAN'T RESOLVE. BUT, UM, THESE ARE, THIS IS DISCUSSION TIME. THIS IS A DISCUSSION TIME, UM, SO THAT THE PROJECT GROUP CAN COME BACK AND, AND LISTEN TO WHAT THE REST OF THE COMMISSION HAS TO SAY AND CAN COME BACK WITH A FORMULATED PLAN BASED ON INPUT WE GET FROM Y'ALL. SO THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS ALL ABOUT IS DISCUSSION ABOUT A VISION, CREATING A VISION FOR THE UTILIZATION OF THIS WEST EIGHTH STREET PROJECT TO HELP GUIDE THE PROJECT WORK GROUP. DO YOU KNOW THE SIZE OF THE, SO THOSE LOOK LIKE VERY SMALL LOTS RIGHT BESIDE IT, BUT DO YOU, DO YOU GUYS KNOW JUST HOW MUCH AN ESTIMATE OF WHAT THE OTHER ONES ARE ON THAT STREET? YEAH, THEY'RE ON THAT, UH, GIS ON, THEY'RE ALL ON THE PAGE 48. THERE'S 1 49, THERE'S 1 26, ANOTHER 1 26. I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. THE, THE NARROWEST ONES ARE 26 FEET. YEAH. OKAY. SO THOSE 90. SO, SO SAY THOSE SMALL ONES, YOU'RE BASICALLY TALKING 40 ISH, GIVE OR TAKE A COUPLE FEET. IT IS KIND OF THE NORM ALONG, ALONG THAT STREET. SO. WELL, AND I'M LOOKING AT THE FEBRUARY, UM, DRAWINGS YOU DID THAT HAD THE LIKE LINES AND LOOKS LIKE WE WERE TRYING TO CRAM SEVEN IN AT ONE POINT, BUT I THINK, WELL THAT WAS 34, 35 FOOT LINES. OKAY. YEAH. WITH THAT CORNER AS WELL, RIGHT? YEAH. TO UTILIZE THAT PROPERTY. WELL, YEAH. OKAY. AND THE THING IS THAT WE HAVE FLEXIBILITY. IF, IF WE FIND A PLAN THAT WE LIKE THAT MAYBE IS A THREE BEDROOM HOUSE AND WE NEED A 48 FOOT LOT, WE CAN, WE CAN WORK THAT INTO THE, UH, TOTAL PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE. THAT DOESN'T, THEY DON'T, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE COOKIE CUTTER SIZE. IT CAN ALSO BE VARIED A LITTLE BIT TO ACCOMMODATE THE HOUSING SELECTIONS. IS THERE, THIS IS JUST FOR MY KNOWLEDGE, IS THERE AN AVERSION TO TOWN HOMES IN THE AREA JUST 'CAUSE COMMON MAINTENANCE OR WHATEVER? PEOPLE DON'T WANT, THEY WANT THEIR OWN YARDS. I JUST, TO ME IT'S EASIER FOR MAINTENANCE IN A TOWN HOME. I USED TO LOVE MINE , BUT I DON'T KNOW IF YEAH, IF THEY'RE, WE DON'T SEEM TO TALK ABOUT THAT A LOT, SO MAYBE WE DON'T. WELL, NO, IT'S, IT IS NOT THAT, UH, I THINK OUR FOCUS HAS BEEN ON SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. TOWN HOMES CREATE ANOTHER WHOLE WORLD PROBLEMS AS FAR AS, UM, DECLARATIONS, UH, FOR MAINTENANCE. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE COMMON WALL PARTY WALLS. MM-HMM. , UH, DO YOU WANT THE INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABLE TO [00:20:01] PAINT EACH HOUSE IN A, IN A BLOCK OF TOWN HOMES, A DIFFERENT COLOR AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE? USUALLY IN TOWN HOME CONFIGURATIONS, THERE'S SOME COMMON, UH, GUIDELINES FOR, FOR MAINTENANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT ESTABLISHED. AND THEN GENERALLY SPEAKING, UH, TO ENFORCE THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE A HOMEOWNER'S ASSOCIATION. OKAY. NOT ALWAYS, BUT THAT'S THE WAY IT WORKS BEST. OKAY. IT GETS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED FOR US. YEAH. GOTCHA. I DO LIKE THE IDEA, EXCUSE ME, UH, THAT MR. DI HUNT WAS SPEAKING OF AS IN LETTING CONTRACTORS SUBMIT, UH, PLANS FOR PROPERTIES THAT THEY HAVE EITHER BEEN A PART OF THE PROJECT, INSTEAD OF US JUST GIVING THEM A SET OF PLANS OR HAVING THEM BID ON A SET OF PLANS FOR HOUSES THAT WE LIKE THE PLANS ON, BUT HAVE THEM TO SUBMIT SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE FAMILIAR WITH, WHETHER IT BE A TWO OR THREE BEDROOM HOME. BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE WHAT WE, UH, ARE LOOKING FOR AS IT RELATES TO USAGE AND HOW MANY BEDROOMS, I THINK. BUT I DEFINITELY HAVE ALWAYS BEEN IN FAVOR OF, HEY, THEY'RE IN THE BUSINESS OF DRAWING THESE PLANTS. THEY'VE BEEN FAMILIAR WITH THEM AND THEY HAVE, UH, IN SOME INSTANCES BUILT THESE HOMES IN THE, IN THE PAST, AND THEY COULD ALMOST LOOK AT A LOT AND TELL WHAT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO GO ON SOME OF THESE LOTS. SO I THINK THAT ACCEPTING SOME OF THOSE, UM, SUB SUBMISSIONS AND BIDS WOULD BE BENEFICIAL TO US. WHAT WOULD THE ISSUE BE WITH US OPENING IT UP FOR THAT KIND OF, UH, ? YES. WHAT WOULD BE THE PROBLEM WITH IT? THE, THE PROBLEM GETS NOT SO MUCH WITH THE FLOOR PLANS ITSELF, ITSELF, BUT ALSO THE SPECIFICS OF THE INTERIOR FINISHES AND ALL THOSE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WILL, THAT, THAT MAKE IT VERY, VERY DIFFICULT TO COMPARE PRICING APPLES TO APPLES UNLESS WE PROVIDE THAT AHEAD OF TIME AS WELL. AND THAT'S SOMETHING, IF I CAN SAY SOMETHING. SURE. I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SPECIFICATIONS RIGHT. SHOWING UP FOR THE CONTRACTORS AS FAR AS THEY DESIGN, BUILD. AND, UH, THEY WILL KNOW APPLES AND APPLES YOU BID ON, UH, FINAL PLANK OR CERTAIN THICKNESS. SO EACH ONE OF 'EM WOULD HAVE AN EQUAL TIME. BUT ONE MORE QUESTION I WANT TO MAKE UP. I I WANNA MENTION, ANYTIME YOU DO MORE THAN ONE HOUSE, ISN'T THAT CONSIDERED A SUBDIVISION? SO WOULD THAT BE NOT A SUBDIVISION OVER THERE? UH, ATTORNEY, UH, A MISS YE UH, MS. ATTORNEY? YES, SIR. I THINK WHAT MR. VICE CHAIR AND HIS OPENING COMMENTS WAS ALLUDING TO IS THE FACT THAT THERE'S BEEN A REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR SUR A SURVEYOR TO DO A COMBINATION AND POTENTIAL RECOMBINATION SO THAT YOU ALL CAN SUBDIVIDE THE LARGE PARCEL INTO LOT SIZES THAT YOU DEEM APPROPRIATE. SO I THINK THE QUESTION THAT HE THREW OUT INITIALLY WAS TO GET SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT WHAT MAY BE AN APPROPRIATE SUBDIVISION IN, IN YOUR SCOPE OF WORK. I THINK YOU'LL SEE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IN THERE. WHAT DID SHE SEND IT IN THE SCOPE OF WORK THAT WAS PASSED THAT YOU HAVE THAT WAS SENT TO THE SURVEYORS? THERE IS A, A PIECE OF WORK THAT THEY HAVE TO DO IS TO CREATE A SUBDIVISION MAP OKAY. FOR US, BASED ON WHATEVER, UH, SPECIFICATIONS WE CREATE THAT HE WILL WORK WITH. OKAY. ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR DISCUSSION ABOUT WEST A STREET? I THINK, UH, I THINK WE CAN, YOU'VE HEARD ENOUGH THOUGHTS AND COMMENTS ABOUT IT, UH, FROM THE COMMISSION THAT THE PROJECT GROUP CAN PROCEED TO, TO WORK WITH THIS AND, UM, COME UP WITH SOME MORE SPECIFIC INFORMATION, UH, TO PRESENT TO THE ENTIRE COMMISSION. THE, THE QUESTION, ONE MORE QUESTION. IF WE BE AT 3, 4, 5, THE HOUSES WE GOT IN SURPLUS, IT WENT ON EUBANK STREET, UH, THREE ON ONE VALLEY DRIVE BEFORE WE BUILT THE HOUSES, I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE AN OUTCOME. WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO WITH THE HOUSES? YOU CAN BUILD A HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, HOUSE, BUT LET A HOUSE SIT OVER 30 DAYS, 60 DAYS TIME WHEN IT IS WASTED. AND THOSE TWO BEDROOM HOUSES RUNNING $160,000. I REALLY THINK YOU CAN HAVE A PROBLEM SELLING THOSE HOUSES, [00:25:01] ESPECIALLY ONE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A BACK DOOR. I'M GONNA MAKE A SUGGESTION ON THAT ONE. IT WOULD BE REAL EASY TO GO OUT THE BEDROOM, SMOKE A CIGARETTE OR CIGAR IF ONE OF THOSE WINDOWS WERE TAKEN OUT, PUT A DOOR THERE AND IN NEAR FUTURE MAYBE THAT SOMETHING COULD BE CONSIDERED. OKAY. IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING. MM-HMM. . SURE. AND THAT'S, THAT GOES BACK TO REVIEWING THE PLANS AND GETTING THE HOUSES DESIGNED RIGHT THE WAY WE WANT TO GET, GET DONE. UH, NOT AN ATTORNEY. UH, I THINK INSTRUCTIONS OR, UH, DIRECTION HAS BEEN PASSED TO YOU RECENTLY TO LOOK AT THE TITLE, UH, ON THESE PROPERTIES. BOTH THE ONE THAT WE GOT FROM THE COUNTY AND THE ONE WE GOT FROM THE, THE THE SEVEN 10 YES. TRUST GROUP OR WHATEVER IT WAS. YES, SIR. AND THAT TITLE WORK IS UNDERWAY. I WILL TELL YOU THAT, UM, THE, THE PROPERTY THAT YOU GOT FROM THE SEVEN 10 TRUST GROUP AT ONE POINT WENT THROUGH A FORECLOSURE WITH A MAJOR, UM, FINANCE COMPANY, WHICH OFTEN CREATES A LOT OF TITLE WORK TO DO. AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS FOR THE SURVEY, THERE'S ALSO SOME TITLE WORK BUNDLED INTO, UM, THAT REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL. SO BETWEEN THE SURVEYOR IN OUR OFFICE, WE'LL, WE'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE YOU A REPORT, UM, AS SOON AS THAT THAT PROCESS CAN BE COMPLETED. BUT IT IS LABOR'S. OKAY. ANY INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROPERTY WE'VE GOT FROM THE COUNTY? UH, NOTHING TO REPORT AT THIS TIME. OKAY. NOTHING OF CONCERN TO REPORT AT THIS TIME? NOTHING TO CONCERN? NOT AT THIS TIME, NO, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE WE CLOSE OUT THE WEST DAY STREET CONVERSATION? OKAY. MOVING ON. STAFF REPORT. I, I ACTUALLY HAVE, EXCUSE ME, SOMETHING THAT WOULD FALL UNDER NEW BUSINESS. OKAY. UM, JUST AN UPDATE, UM, FROM THIS PAST SATURDAY, MAY THE FOURTH, UH, THERE WAS A COMMUNITY CLEANUP IN THE DUFFY FIELD AREA. THE PHOENIX GROUP CAME OUT AND THEY HAD WITH THEM BOY SCOUT TROOP 1 32, ALONG WITH, WITH MRS. RUTH AND A FEW OTHER COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND REALLY PUT A GOOD DENT IN SOME OF THE GARBAGE THAT WAS ON THE OUTLINE. THEY DID NOT GO ONTO PEOPLE'S PROPERTY, BUT THEY DID HAVE A COMMUNITY CLEANUP AND DID A GREAT JOB. UM, I THINK THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, AND WE, THIS WAS NOT ONE OF OUR PLANNED PROJECTS, BUT AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMISSION, I TRY TO SHOW UP WHEN I CAN, WHERE I CAN. UM, AND WHILE I WAS OUT, DID A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA IN INVESTIGATING, UM, THAT STRETCH OF HOMES ON GREEN STREET THAT WE USED TO BE INTERESTED IN THAT BELONGED TO GILL FIELD, MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH AT ONE TIME, ARE REALLY LOOKING GOOD AT, IT'S CLEANED UP THE WHOLE BLOCK. UH, SO ONCE AGAIN, I JUST URGE SOME OF MY COMMISSION, UH, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS, WHEN YOU DO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RIDE THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, TAKE A LOOK, SEE A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT'S GOING ON. UH, BROAD STREET. IT'S JUST LOOKING A LOT BETTER THAN IT HAS. UH, BUT IT, IT CAN ALWAYS LOOK BETTER WHEN WE SEE A BLOCK THAT'S DOING A LOT BETTER. WE SEE TWO OR THREE BLOCKS THAT ARE STILL STILL BLIGHTED AND STILL LOOKING BAD. SO WE JUST NEED TO COME TOGETHER ON ALL FRONTS AND WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF THE COMMISSIONERS IN THE AREA IF THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY. UH, I HAVE A LOT MORE TIME NOW THROUGH THE WEEKDAYS AND WOULD LOVE TO GO ON A WALKING TOUR, DRIVING TOUR. UM, BUT JUST TO PUT YOUR EYES IN YOUR, TO PUT YOUR EYES IN YOUR FOOTSTEPS, TO HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND TO SEE WHAT THE CLIMATE IS, UM, TO HAVE A BETTER IDEA. SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT ENHANCING LIVES, UM, WE NEED TO TAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE HANDS ON SO THAT YOU COULD SEE WHAT'S BEING AFFECTED AND WHO'S BEING AFFECTED. UM, I WAS JUST OUT THIS WEEKEND IN THE AREA AND JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT I'M PROUD OF MY CITY AND PROUD OF, OF MY COMMUNITY. AND WE JUST NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TLC AND A LITTLE BIT MORE ATTENTION. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. BEFORE WE LEAVE NEW BUSINESS, ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS ITEMS THAT, UH, ARE WE ON NEW BUSINESS NOW? YES, WE CAN, WE CAN DEAL WITH NEW BUSINESS? YES. OKAY. OKAY. UH, I DO WANT TO MENTION FIRST AVENUE. YES, SIR. I THINK THEY HAD [00:30:01] A COUPLE OF LOTS THAT WAS UP FOR BED. SOME THAT WE WERE PURSUING, A HOUSE THAT WE WERE TRYING TO FIND OUT THE STATUS. CAN YOU UPDATE THE BOARD, UH, ON THAT PROPERTY? UH, THE TWO LOTS THAT THE, THAT WERE, UH, UP FOR BED UP, NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ONES BEHIND THE STORE. OKAY. YES. UH, THEY, THE, THE UPSET, UH, TIME PERIOD HAS CLOSED ON THOSE. AND SO THEY'RE, THEY WILL GO BEFORE THE AL BOARD OF ALDERMAN, WE DID NOT TAKE ANY, UH, ANY ACTION ON THOSE. UH, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE, WHICH WAS SIX 10, UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY UPDATE AT THIS TIME. AND ONE MORE QUESTION. SURE. CAN WE NOT GET PUBLIC WORKS TO CUT THAT HEDGE LINE SO WE CAN KNOW THE EXACT BOUNDARIES THAT WE HAVE? I CAN MAKE THE REQUEST OF PUBLIC WORK. MAYBE THEY'LL DO IF, IF, IF THE COMMISSION, IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION THE COMMISSION WOULD LIKE ME TO TAKE. SEE THE BOUNDARY ON WHAT PROPERTY? ON THE FIRST STREET. FIRST AVENUE. STREET. ALRIGHT. FIRST AVENUE. EXCUSE ME. OPEN THEM UP SO IT'LL BE MORE ATTRACTIVE IF WE DO PUT SOME HOUSES THERE IN BACK IN, UH, TALKING ABOUT WHAT, UH, MR. MORGAN WAS TALKING ABOUT. I AGREE WITH THE TRASH CLEANED UP. THE NEIGHBORS NEED TO KEEP THEIR BLOCKS CLEAN IN FRONT OF THEIR HOUSES. MAYBE WE CAN EDUCATE THE NEIGHBORS SO THEY WILL KEEP THEIR PLACES CLEAN. WE CAN CLEAN UP ALL DAY, ALL NIGHT FOR THE COMMUNITY OBLIGATION TO KEEP THEIR COMMUNITY CLEAN. JUST LIKE KEEPING YOUR HOUSE CLEAN. COME ON. HELP CLEAN MY HOUSE, JUST LIKE CLEANING IN THE FRONT YARD. AND I SEE PEOPLE THROWING OUT TRASH AND SOMETHING NEED TO BE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY TO TEACH THE COMMUNITY HOW TO KEEP THE COMMUNITY CLEAN. OKAY. AND ONE MORE THING. THEY GOT TRASH RECYCLABLES. THEY GOT BUSES, I GUESS EVERY TWO OR THREE BLOCKS WHERE YOU PUT TRASH IN. SO IT'S EDUCATION ONCE AGAIN, EDUCATE THE FOLKS. I THINK THAT WOULD FALL TO THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD PROJECT GROUP. RIGHT. I'VE GOT ONE MORE THING THAT, UH, IT'S GONNA FALL IN THE, UH, FORM OF A QUESTION. UH, MR. VICE CHAIR, JUST JUST BEFORE WE MOVE OVER, UH, I BELIEVE MOVE ON. I BELIEVE MR. DILL UH, MADE A REQUEST, BUT I DO NEED THE COMMISSION TO GIVE ME DIRECTION. SO WOULD THE COMMISSION LIKE ME TO, UH, FOLLOW UP AND MAKE A REQUEST OF PUBLIC WORKS? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THE COMMISSION IS NOT WANTING TO PURSUE? I WOULD REMIND IN THE SPIRIT OF HEALTHFULNESS THAT, UH, ANYTIME WE MAKE SUCH REQUESTS THAT THAT, THAT IS A CHARGE. SO PUBLIC WORKS IS NOT A FREE, UH, A FREE SERVICE. UM, IT, IT WOULD BE A INVOICE SERVICE TO US, UH, THAT WOULD BE CHARGED TO OUR PROPERTIES AND STRUCTURES LINE. YOU NEED A MOTION? NO, JUST DIRECTION. SHAKING HEADS WILL DO . OKAY. JUST NEED A RESPONSE FROM THE MAJORITY OF THE, UH, OF THE COMMISSION. LET ME SAY THIS. IF BY CHANCE WE GET THE HOUSE THAT WE ARE TRYING TO PURSUE, MAYBE WE CAN ADD THAT HOUSE DEMOLITION AND CLEAN UP THE WHOLE STRIP IF THAT'S POSSIBLE. MR. DILL HUNT. UM, IF THE COMMISSION WANTED TO DISCUSS ACQUIRING PROPERTY, THERE'S A A TIME DURING THE AGENDA TO DO THAT. UM, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THAT ANYTIME PUBLIC WORKS IS ASKED TO DEMOLISH A STRUCTURE, THEY REQUIRE ASBESTOS TESTING, WHICH ON AVERAGE IS ABOUT $600 DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE. AND THERE SOME ADDITIONAL COSTS. SO YOU MAY, IF WE GET TO A POINT WHERE YOU'RE SEEKING DEMOLITION, UM, YOU MAY WANT TO DIRECT STAFF TO GET ESTIMATES FIRST BEFORE YOU GIVE THEM INSTRUCTION TO TAKE ANY SPECIFIC ACTION. OKAY. WELL, WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO? YEAH. IN THIS PARTICULAR INSTANCE, HE'S TALKING ABOUT VEGETATION. OKAY. UH, ON FIRST AVENUE, ON THE PROPERTY THAT WE ALREADY OWN THERE, THAT WE ACQUIRED. DO YOU HAVE A COUPLE YEARS AGO? DO YOU HAVE THE ADDRESS OF IT? UH, IT'S, WAS IT NOT IT IT'S THE WHOLE BLOCK. YEAH. UH, FROM FROM ELM TO CEDAR. CEDAR. CEDAR, YES. SORRY. IT'S NOT ALL THAT BLOCK, BUT IT'S THE BULK OF IT. YEAH. THE BULL. AND, AND WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST ALSO LIKE WE'RE DOING AT A STREET IS, IS WE SEND OUT A REQUEST FOR A PROPOSAL FOR SURVEYING WORK TO ESTABLISH THAT BACK LINE. 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT IS AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE TRESPASSING ON ANYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY. UM, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ALSO ON WEST A STREET, IS HAVING A SURVEYOR STAKE AND FLAG THE BACK LINE SO THAT WHEN WE DO GO IN THERE TO CLEAR IT UP, WE'RE [00:35:01] NOT GOING TO GET IN ANY TROUBLE BEING ON ANYBODY ELSE'S PROPERTY. AND WE'RE TOTALLY WITHIN OUR BOUNDS TO WHERE WE NEED TO BE. ABSOLUTELY. SO YOU NEED A CONSENSUS FROM THE BOARD TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. UH, WHAT DO YOU NEED? UH, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE DIRECTION IS FROM WELL, THE, THE DIRECTION, MY SUGGESTION, I, I, I ADDED A, A CAVEAT TO WHAT YOU SAID WAS THAT MAYBE BEFORE WE GET THEM, THE PUBLIC WORKS IN THERE TO CLEAN UP THAT VEGETATION BECAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT IT THE OTHER DAY. UH, THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHERE THE PROPERTY LINES ARE. AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE A, A SURVEY OF, OF OUR OWNERSHIP ON FIRST AVENUE AND THAT WE COULD SEND OUT A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, FIND OUT HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST TO DO THAT AND AUTHORIZE IT WHEN WE GET IT. SO DO I HAVE CONSENSUS TO THAT YOU WOULD LIKE STAFF TO, UH, DO A, AN ADDITIONAL, UH, REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL FOR THE SURVEY WORK ON FIRST AVENUE? EXACTLY. MY HEAD SHAKE SHA OKAY. WELL, I DON'T HEAR ANYONE OPPOSING. I'M GONNA TAKE, UH, I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA TAKE IT AS A, A SOLID. YES. I'M GONNA GO FORWARD WITH IT. I'LL SEND THAT OUT THIS WEEK. I, I'LL WORK WITH YOU ON THE SCOPE OF WORK. 'CAUSE IT'S NOT AS IN, NOT AS DETAILED AS WHAT WE WERE DOING OVER ON A STREET. ON A STREET. PERFECT. THANK YOU. AND WHAT DID WE COME UP WITH? THE IDEA OF, AS FOR DESIGN BUILD DESIGN BUILD, WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THAT ON YOU AND I AND BETH WALKER WILL TAKE THAT ON. 'CAUSE WE'RE THE A STREET PROJECT TEAM. OKAY. AND WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT AS, AS OUR PROJECT TEAM AND, AND COME BACK WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE, FOR THE COMMISSION. OKAY. OKAY. THANK YOU. OKAY. ANY OTHER NEW BUSINESS? JUST THE VERY LAST QUESTION I HAD, UM, ABOUT SIX OR SEVEN BLOCKS OF EAST ROSE IS CLOSED OFF AND WAS JUST WONDERING IF ANYBODY KNEW WHAT TYPE OF PROJECT IS GOING ON ALONG THE RAILROAD TRACKS ALL THE WAY FROM THE CEMETERY BEHIND JT BARBER ALL THE WAY UP TO WHERE THE STATION WITH THE NEW LITTLE POOL? WELL, YEAH, YEAH. STORMWATER STORM. YEAH, THE STORMWATER RE RETENTION POND. YEAH, I CAN, I CAN LOOK INTO THAT AND PLEASE. AND CIRCULATE AND UPDATE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. I, YOU CAN LOOK AT IT FOR A REAL REASON, BUT I THINK THERE'S PUTTING A PIPELINE IN ALONG THE EDGE OF THE RIGHT OF WAY GOING FROM THAT PUMP STATION AT THE RETENTION POND UP TO JACK, JACK, JACK STREET PUMP STATION. OKAY. BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE IT HAS TO GO UNDER THE RAILROAD TRACK. YEAH. I DIDN'T SEE WHERE ANY KIND OF, UM, STREET REPAIR OR ANYTHING WAS BEING DONE. UH, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THE STREET HAS BEEN CLOSED OFF. SO I WAS JUST WONDERING AND WOULD LIKE TO TRY TO TALK TO SOMEBODY ABOUT THE TIMEFRAME AND WHAT THE, WHAT THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE. I CAN CIRCULATE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU GUYS. NO PROBLEM. WOULD YOU LIKE SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU? ? COULD I DIRECT YOU? YOU, YOU KNOW, IT WAS INTERESTING IN, IN OBSERVING, UH, YOU GIVING ME THAT DIRECTION. ALL OF THE COMMISSIONERS ALREADY STARTED SHAKING THEIR HEAD. IT'S LIKE THEY, THEY, THEY AGREE WITH YOU. SO I'LL THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME, . [9. Staff Report] OKAY. NOW WE'LL MOVE TO STAFF REPORT. SO THAT WAS ALL YOURS WITH YOUR MONTHLY ACTIVITY REVIEW. ALL RIGHT. UH, I DID INCLUDE IN YOUR PACKET, UH, JUST A, A MONTHLY OVERVIEW SO THAT I WOULDN'T HAVE TO, UH, SO I WOULDN'T HAVE TO SAY TOO MUCH. UH, 'CAUSE IT'S BEEN A BUSY MONTH. UH, SO I, I BELIEVE YOU ALL HAVE RECEIVED THAT AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS WHATSOEVER. I DO WANNA ECHO, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER, UH, MORGAN SAID, UH, AND SEND THANKS AND GRATITUDE TO ALL THE COMMUNITY THAT CAME OUT ON MAY 4TH WITH THE, UH, WITH THE CLEANUP AND FOR EVERYBODY WHO PARTICIPATED DURING THE MONTH OF APRIL, UH, WITH THE VARIOUS FOCUS GROUPS AND, AND, UH, ROUND TABLES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IT, IT'S BEEN A GOOD, IT WAS A GOOD MONTH FOR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. UM, THE, UH, THE FINANCIAL UPDATE ALSO INCLUDED IS AN ADDENDUM IN YOUR PACKET, UH, SHOWS OUR FUND BALANCE, UH, TO DATE, UH, BEING AT 360,000, $95 AND 60 CENTS. UM, THE PROCEEDS FROM THE WALT BELLAMY, UH, SALE, WHEN THAT IS FINALIZED, WILL BE ADDED TO THAT, UH, TO THAT FUND BALANCE. UH, AS WELL ALSO LISTED, UH, IS ITEMIZED, UH, TRANSACTIONS, UH, OF THE COMMISSION, INCLUDING, UH, INCLUDING THOSE COMMUNITY [00:40:01] OUTREACH, UH, ENDEAVORS. AND OF COURSE THE, UM, UH, THE VARIOUS, UH, CHANGE ORDERS AND, UH, CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. UM, AND THEN WANTED, I I ALSO WANTED TO LET THE COMMISSION KNOW THAT, UH, THANKS TO THE HARD WORK OF MADAM ATTORNEY, UH, THE, UH, HEALTH AND WELLNESS CLINIC IS WELL UNDERWAY. WE HAVE ONE MORE PIECE OF PAPERWORK, UH, TO GET COMPLETE, WHICH IS A SPECIAL WARRANTY DEED. UH, AND AS SOON AS THAT IS COMPLETE, UH, THE DEED WILL BE RECORDED AND CAROLINA EAST WILL START, UH, CONSTRUCTION ON THE CONVENIENT CARE CLINIC. SO, UH, WITH THAT IS THAT, THAT WAS AS BRIEF AND AS SUCCINCT AS I COULD POSSIBLY MAKE IT. I I WILL ENTERTAIN ANY QUESTIONS. YOU ALL HAVE TO CHECK THE ITEM. I I DO HAVE A QUESTION. SURE. I GUESS THEY CAN DO A PLOT PLAN, PARKING, ET CETERA, BEFORE THEY PUT THE BUILDING THERE. YES, SIR. AND IT'S SUCH A NARROW STRIP, SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING. WHAT ARE THEY GONNA TO DO? OR WE GONNA GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE BUILDING, THE PARKING. OH, WE WON'T. IT, IT, IT, IT WILL BELONG TO CAROLINA EAST AND THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE REGULAR PERMITTING, UH, PERMITTING AND, AND DEVELOPMENT, UH, PROCESSES THAT ANYBODY WOULD, UH, IN DEVELOPING A, A PRIVATE STRUCTURE. SO THEY SHOULD KNOW WHAT THEY DO, AND I'M SURE CITY STAFF WILL HELP THEM OUT ALONG THE WAY. UH, THAT SAID, THE COMMISSION IS, IS STILL VERY MUCH PART OF, UH, OF THE COMMUNITY CARE CLINIC AND, UM, DEFINITELY LOOKING FORWARD TO, UH, FORMING A PROJECT TEAM AROUND PLANNING. ONCE, UH, ONCE CAROLINA EAST IS IN THAT, UH, IT HAS REACHED THAT STAGE OF DEVELOPMENT. SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION THAT IN, IN THE FINANCIAL REPORT, THERE IS A WHOLE SLEW OF UTILITY BILLS. THAT'S CORRECT. WHAT ARE THEY FOR? THAT WOULD BE NINE 11 UBANK UTILITIES, I THINK. HMM. OKAY. JIM? MM-HMM. CAN I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION SURE. FOR YOU IF I CAN? YES, YOU CAN. QUESTION. AND WITH ANTICIPATION, SORTING THE PHYSICAL YEAR, I GUESS WE GO FROM JUNE TO JUNE, AM I CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. JULY 1ST IS THE FIRST OF THE FISCAL YEAR. WHAT IS YOUR OUTLOOK AS FAR AS HOW MANY HOUSES DO YOU ANTICIPATE ON BUILDING IN THE FUTURE? DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA? FUNDS AVAILABILITY, UH, FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE. WHAT IS YOUR IDEAL AT VOICE? WHAT YOU GOING TO DO? WOULD YOU LET US KNOW THAT HOUSES FINANCING BUYERS? SURE. UM, I, I WORK AND SERVE AT THE PLEASURE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. SO THE, THAT QUESTION IS REALLY UP TO YOU ALL. UH, I, I WOULD ANTICIPATE, UH, I WOULD ANTICIPATE THAT, UM, WE, WE WANT TO CONTINUE TO WORK ON AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND, AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CREATE STOCK AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING, BUT ALSO THAT WE, UH, ATTRACT DEVELOPERS THAT WE'LL DO THAT WORK AS WELL. 'CAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S, THAT, THAT'S THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMISSION, IS TO DECREASE BLIGHT AND INCREASE ATTRACTIVENESS SO THAT DEVELOPMENT CAN HAPPEN NATURALLY. SO, UM, YES, IT DID. STILL DIDN'T ASK MY QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE WHAT PART OF YOUR QUESTION I DIDN'T ANSWER, BUT I'LL GIVE ONE OF YOUR OUTLOOK AND YOUR PLANS. I I DON'T HAVE ANY PLANS, SIR. WE WE'RE, I, I'M, I SERVE IT. YOU'RE ALL PLEASURE. YOU, YOU GUYS GET TO MAKE THE PLANS SO YOU DON'T HAVE NO GOALS, NO INTERESTED PARTIES INTEREST IN BUYING MR. DILL HUNT. PERHAPS I CAN BE HELPFUL. UM, YOU ALL THE, YOUR APPOINTED MEMBERS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DETERMINE THE GOALS, THE OBJECTIVES, AND THE STRATEGY TO IMPLEMENT YOUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN. THE ROLE OF THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS TO TAKE THE DIRECTION YOU GIVE HIM, TO UNDERSTAND YOUR OBJECTIVES, TO UNDERSTAND YOUR GOALS, AND TO UNDERSTAND YOUR STRATEGIES AND TO IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS. SO WHAT [00:45:01] YOU ALL, I THINK STARTED, UM, AT YOUR STRATEGIC PLANNING MEETING WAS TO BEGIN TO CONCEPTUALIZE WHAT YOUR SHORT TERM AND LONG TERM GOALS HAPPEN TO BE. UM, I THINK IN THAT CONVERSATION, PROJECT GROUPS, UM, WERE ESTABLISHED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT PROJECTS YOU WANNA UNDERTAKE, UM, WHAT THEY MAY LOOK LIKE, A TIMEFRAME FOR COMPLETION AND A STRATEGY TO GET THOSE GOALS FROM CONCEPTS TO REALITY. AND ONCE THAT INFORMATION IS DISSEMINATED TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, HE CAN IMPLEMENT THOSE STRATEGIES AND GIVE YOU UPDATES ABOUT HIS PROGRESS BASED ON THE DIRECTION YOU GIVE. SO IF THE COMMISSION, UM, HAS AN IDEA OF WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO DO, FOR EXAMPLE, HOW MANY HOUSES THEY WANNA BUILD IN A CALENDAR YEAR, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE NINE OF YOU ALL, UM, A MAJORITY OF THE NINE ANYWAY, CAN COMMUNICATE TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND HE CAN IMPLEMENT. YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. SO THE BOARD PER SE, WE NEED TO SET SOME GOALS THAT WE WON'T FULFILL. AND I, I THINK AS, AS, UH, THE ATTORNEY HAS STATED THAT WE HAD THAT PLANNING MEETING, AND THAT WAS THE OBJECTIVE OF THAT PLANNING MEETING WAS TO CREATE THE GOALS FOR THE COMMISSION GOING FORWARD IN THE, IN THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, I THINK WE TALKED OUT THAT FAR. AND FROM, FROM A HOUSING PERSPECTIVE, I THINK WE AGREED THAT, THAT COMING BACK TO MEMORY NOW BACK IN JANUARY OR FEBRUARY, THAT OUR OBJECTIVE WAS TO CONTINUE TO BUILD HOUSING, BUT ALSO TO ACCUMULATE LAND AND GET IT PREPARED TO SUCH A STATE THAT IT WOULD ATTRACT PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT WORK. WE DON'T, I DON'T THINK WE ENVISION OURSELVES BEING THE HOUSE BUILDERS BY OURSELVES IN, IN THE AREA THAT OUR OBJECTIVE IS TO BE LAND CONSOLIDATORS TO THE POINT THAT WE CAN, UH, MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE FOR THE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE SECTOR TO COME IN AND JOIN WITH US OR DO IT THEMSELVES, UH, RATHER THAN US BEING THE PUBLIC SECTOR DOING ALL THE WORK. OKAY. VERY GOOD. I APPRECIATE THAT. WHAT INCENTIVE WOULD YOU GIVE A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND DEVELOP THE LAND? YOU GOTTA HAVE SOME INCENTIVE. THE LAND IS, I MEAN, WHO ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD AT? LOOK AT THE LOSS THAT WE HAVE AS SURPLUS WHO WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THOSE PARCELS OF LAND? SO WHAT KIND OF INCENTIVE CAN THEY AFFORD BOARD OFFER A DEVELOPER QUESTION AND, AND MAYBE WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT THAT. AND THERE'S NO QUESTION. UH, I THINK THAT WE, AT THE PLANNING MEETING, WE ADOPTED THE WEST A STREET PROJECT AS OUR NEXT HOUSING PROJECT. BUT THAT'S, THAT WAS A DONE DEAL. WE FORMED THE PROJECT WHERE YOU, ME AND BETH, UH, TO MOVE THAT FORWARD, UH, AND CREATE ANY HOUSING ON THAT PARTICULAR SITE. THE FIRST AVENUE SITE WAS ONE THAT WE VISUALIZED IT BEING AN OPPORTUNITY 'CAUSE OF ITS SIZE AND ITS LOCATION TO BE MORE ATTRACTIVE TO A PRIVATE SECTOR DEVELOPER. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT. AND AS YOU PUT FORTH TODAY, YOU GO IN THERE TODAY AND LOOK AT THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, YOU DON'T KNOW HOW DEEP IT IS. YOU DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THAT'S NOT GOING TO ATTRACT ANYBODY. WE NEED TO GET IT TO A POINT THAT IT IS ATTRACTIVE TO START WITH, AND THEN WE CAN COME UP WITH INCENTIVES THAT WE MIGHT NEED TO, TO ENTICE A DEVELOPER TO DO IT. IF THAT IS OUR GOAL IS TO GET A PRIVATE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP THAT SITE, THEN WE NEED TO COME UP WITH THE STRATEGIES MM-HMM. TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. SOME INCENTIVES OR WHATEVER. YEAH. AND, AND WE CAN WORK WITH ZB ON INSTRUCTION TO GIVE HIM INSTRUCTIONS AND DIRECTIONS TO, UH, CONTACT PEOPLE AND FIND OUT WHAT IT WOULD TAKE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. BUT THAT'S, THAT AS, AS THE ATTORNEY SAID, THAT'S A, THAT'S OUR JOB. RIGHT. OKAY. AND TAX CREDIT. SO, I MEAN, IT'S A LOT OF LEGALITIES WHEN YOU TALK TO TAX CREDITS, HOW MANY HOUSES ARE YOU GOING TO BUILD, SHOW THE DEVELOPER WHAT HIS FOUNDER COST GOING TO BE. MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE TO HIM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T MAKE ANY MONEY. YOU'RE NOT GONNA DO A THING JUST THAT SIMPLE. SO WE GOTTA MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE TO A DEVELOPER THAT HE MAY WANT TO COME IN AND DO SOMETHING THE WAY IT IS. NOW, THERE'S ONE NICE HOUSE PER SE, ON FIRST AVENUE IS OUT THAT HOUSE. SO TO MAKE A SALE, YOU GOTTA MAKE SOME KIND OF INCENTIVE TO [00:50:01] TAX CREDITS. PAT ON THE BACK, PUT ON TV, YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN I SAY? BUT ANYWAY, I'M THROUGH WITH THAT. OKAY, GOOD. OKAY. UH, HEALTH AND WELLNESS CLINICS UPDATE. OKAY. THAT IS, UH, ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE BOARD? ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT WE WANT TO BRING TO THE, TO THE FLOOR THIS EVENING FOR DISCUSSION? BUT ONE MORE QUESTION AND I, I'M RUNNING MY MOUTH TOO MUCH. YOU DID SAY SOMETHING ABOUT SALES ON THE WALK, FELONY HOUSES. MM-HMM. , WHAT KIND OF PROSPECT DO YOU HAVE ON THOSE THREE HOUSES? UH, THIS WEEK? I HAVE SPOKEN TO 72 LOCAL RESIDENTS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING. WE'VE GONE THROUGH THE, UH, THE PRO THE PURCHASE PROCESS, AND EACH OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE AT VARIOUS STAGES OF, UM, UH, VARIOUS STAGES OF BEING READY TO MAKE A REQUEST FOR PROPOSAL, UH, A REQUEST FOR PURCHASE. AND, AND WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED A REQUEST FOR PURCHASE YET. I HAVE TALKED TO, UH, SEVERAL, UM, UH, SEVERAL ORGANIZATIONS THAT ARE ALSO INTERESTED IN THEM. AND, UH, THEY, THEY ARE WORKING, UH, TO MAKE A REQUEST. I ANTICIPATE THAT, UH, SOME SORT OF REQUEST WILL BE BEFORE THE COMMISSION BY JUNE. OKAY. YOU ANSWER MY QUESTION. OKAY. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF OR AMONGST OURSELVES FOR DISCUSSION? OKAY. I THINK THERE IS NO NEED THAT I KNOW OF FOR A CLOSED SESSION THIS EVENING. NOT TONIGHT, MR. VICE CHAIR. OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. SO MOVED. HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND. ALL IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. AYE. OPPOSED? THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. APPRECIATE IT VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR THE CONVERSATIONS AND, AND, AND THE INPUT. GOOD MEETING. SAID GOOD MEETING TONIGHT. ROBBIE, WHY. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.