[1. Welcome]
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SAY FOR ALLOWING TO SEE A DAY FOR THE AGI STATES NATION.
AND THAT'S ALL THE VOTING MEMBERS.
[5. Approve Minutes.]
ORDER OF BUSINESS IS GONNA BE APPRO BY APRIL 16TH MINUTES.AND ANY CHANGES THAT NEED TO BE NOTED, NOT ON MOTION MINUTES.
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WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED.AND, UM, FIRST THING I WANNA TALK ABOUT IS, UM, THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE, THIS IS NEW FOR OUR MEETINGS.
UM, WE GENERALLY HAVE NOT DONE A PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION.
AND SO THIS WAS RECENTLY, UH, INTRODUCED, UM, BY ONE OF THE DERMAN.
THEY RECOMMENDED THAT ALL OF OUR PUBLIC MEETINGS HAVE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO WE DO NEED TO ESTABLISH SOME, UH, TIME AMENDMENTS ON THE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO I NEED YOU GUYS TO GIVE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS ON THE AMOUNT OF TIME ANY ONE PERSON CAN SPEAK, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO TYPICALLY OUR BOARD OF OTTMAN MEETINGS, I THINK ARE THREE MINUTES AT A TIME OR FOUR.
UM, SO YOU GUYS CAN MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS WHAT YOU THINK IS A ACTUAL AMOUNT OF TIME FOR.
SO LET, SHOULD KEEP THE SAME AS THE MINUTES.
UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO, YOU MADE A MOTION MR. WHAT? TO HAVE PUBLIC COMMENTS SPEAK.
A SO WHEN WE GET TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT SECTION, THE PUBLIC THAT IS HERE CAN, UH, COME UP AND TALK AND MAKE COMMENTS REGARDING, UM, THE HISTORY LAW.
UM, WE ALSO WILL HAVE SOME TIME THAT YOU GUYS CAN SPEAK WITH THE CONSULTANTS AFTERWARDS TO PROVIDE ANY INPUT YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE.
[6. Introduction of Consultants with 310 Architecture + Interiors (310ai).]
NOW I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE OUR CONSULTANTS THAT ARE HERE WITH US, AND THEY'LL KIND OF TAKE OVER AND WE'RE GOING TO START THE WORKSTATION PORTION.UM, THEY'VE GOT SEVERAL QUESTIONS THEY'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH WITH YOU.
UM, I THINK IN THE EMAIL, UM, YOU GUYS RECEIVED, I SENT THAT QUESTIONNAIRE AND IF YOU HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT IT, IF NOT, THEY'RE GONNA BE COVERING SOME OF THOSE SAME QUESTIONS TODAY.
ALRIGHT, SO TO GET STARTED, I'M GOING TO INTRODUCE KIM AND ALBERT.
THEY ARE WITH THREE 10 ARCHITECT AND INTERIORS, AND THEY ARE THE CONSULTANTS WHO WILL BE WORKING TO GATHER THE RESEARCH AND, UM, THE DESIGN
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FOR THE HISTORY WALL.UM, AND SO THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA TAKE ALL YOUR INPUT AND INFORMATION AND TURN THIS INTO A WONDERFUL STORY FOR US.
[7. Advisory Committee Work Session.]
THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TODAY.UM, I, UM, FOR THE MULTIFACETED, UH, ARCHITECTURE, INTERIORS AND GRAPHIC DESIGN GROUP.
SO I THINK WHAT, WHAT THAT KIND OF SAYS ABOUT US, AND I JUST WANTED KIND, INTRODUCE OUR EXPERIENCE COMES FROM AND, AND WHAT WE KIND OF BRING TO THE CONVERSATION.
UM, BUT OUR EXPERIENCE WITH ARCHITECTURE, INTERIOR DESIGN AND GRAPHIC DESIGN ALLOWS US KIND OF A UNIQUE PERSPECTIVE ON BRINGING, UM, EXPERIENTIAL GRAPHIC DESIGN INTO A BUILT ENVIRONMENT.
SO, UM, IT'S MORE THAN JUST PAINTING A WALL.
IT'S ABOUT THE INTEGRATION OF A STORY INTO A SPACE AND, UM, WHAT WE WANT TO DO TODAY.
I THINK, UH, THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF WHAT WE DO IN A PROJECT LIKE THIS IS TO, UM, HEAR FROM THE COMMUNITY, WHAT, WHAT IS IMPORTANT TO THEM ABOUT, UH, THIS SPACE, UH, STANLEY BY, WHEN I SAY THIS SPACE, I'M TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE COMMUNITY CENTER, UH, WHAT IT MEANS TO THE COMMUNITY, WHAT IT MEANS TO BE AS INDIVIDUALS.
AND WE'RE GONNA, WE'RE GONNA DOCUMENT THAT INFORMATION AND, UM, WHAT I GUESS YOU COULD SAY IS KIND OF A VISUAL NARRATIVE THAT WE CAN THEN START TO KIND OF MAP OUT, UH, IN THAT SPACE IN A MEANINGFUL WAY.
UM, I DON'T THINK IT'S TO SAY THAT THE CREATORS OF THE ART OR STORY THAT'S HAPPENING THIS WALL, THE COMMUNITY CENTER, IT'S MORE ABOUT WE'RE, WE'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE TAKING INFORMATION FROM YOU AND, UM, DOING WHAT WE DO THINGS AND TAKE THAT INFORMATION AND PUT IT INTO A COHESIVE, UM, THOUGHTFUL, UM, HOPEFULLY ACCURATE AND HOPEFULLY INSPIRING, UM, VISUAL.
SO, UM, WHAT WE'RE TODAY IS A SERIES OF QUESTIONS.
JUST KIND GET THE, THE IDEAS FLOWING AND SOME OF THE SIGNIFICANT THINGS ABOUT THIS DOCUMENT.
WE'LL, WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT GONNA PROPOSE ANYTHING.
LIKE WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE ANY WAY TO, SO THIS IS THE KIND OF RESEARCH SIDE OF IT, UH, THE STORIES.
AND HERE'S WHAT WE THINK, UH, WHAT DO YOU, IS THIS ACCURATE? YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT ON THAT AND THEN WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE IT BACK AND, AND RE IT.
SO, UM, I THINK, UH, AND I SAY THAT SORT OF THE INTENTION SAYING WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE ALL THE ANSWERS.
YOU KNOW, I FORGOT, THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT.
THIS IS GET WHAT DOES THIS COMMUNITY CENTER MEAN TO THIS? BUT ANYWAY, THIS IS OUR SORT OF, I THINK WE'RE, BUT UM, UM, JUST TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF HOW THE SPACES THAT YOU WORK IN, UM, IN ALL ASPECTS OF ARCHITECTURE, INTERIOR AND GRAPHIC DESIGN.
UH, WE WORK IN HEALTHCARE, CORPORATE EDUCATION SPACES, ALL THAT.
UM, I, UH, THE INDUSTRIES THAT WE ARE IN HAVE KIND OF A COMMON THEME, WHICH IS THAT
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WE'RE INTENTIONAL ABOUT BEING MORE JUST SO TO SPEAK.UM, SO IF YOU THINK OF THE LIBRARY, THERE'S GONNA BE A GOVERNMENT MUNICIPALITY THAT'S GONNA RUN THAT LIBRARY AND WE'RE WORKING FOR THAT MUNICIPALITY.
BUT IN REALITY, WORKING FOR, THAT'S WHERE THE IS FOR, UH, TO GIVE YOU JUST A, AN IDEA OF WHERE WE WORKED AROUND THE STATE, SOME OF OUR CLIENTS, ITS EVERY FROM PARTNERS HEALTHCARE ED, AND WE WORK ALL OVER THE STATE, UM, IN DIFFERENT ASPECTS OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS.
SO, UM, WORKING AROUND THE AREA WITH THAT, I'M OUR THANK YOU.
WHERE ARE YOU GUYS FROM? UH, OUR OFFICE IS BASED RALEIGH.
I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE, IF YOU CENTER ANDERSON ALL TOGETHER CORRECT.
THIS, THE HISTORY LAW IN STANLEY RECREATION CENTER WILL TIED THE WHOLE STANLEY COMMUNITY, WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDED TO BE, THIS IS A SEPARATE PROJECT FROM WHAT ECU IS WORKING ON.
SO THIS IS NOT THE ONE THAT'S OUTSIDE BUILDING, CORRECT? THIS IS, THIS IS NOT, THIS IS A PROJECT THAT THE CITY'S FUNDING FOR THE STANLEY RECREATION CENTER.
SO DON'T CALL IMPRESSION THAT OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING THAT WAS TIED IN WHITE HENDERSON PARK AND IT WAS GONNA BE A LONG THIRD ALLEY.
THAT ONE, SOMEBODY FROM DEVELOPMENTAL SERVICES INITIATED THAT, THAT WAS NOT INITIATED BY PARKS AND RECREATION.
SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE, THE PROCESS WAS WITH THAT.
IF YOU HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON IT THAT YOU CAN SHARE, BUT FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD, IT WAS SOMEBODY THAT'S FINE.
WE HAVE A PROCESS HAVE TO DO BECAUSE MUNICIPALITY, WE PUT IT OUT FOR BIDS.
WE BIDS THEY, WHICH IS WHAT GOES WITH, I CAN'T CUT RED TAPE THE CHANGE THAT, AND I CAN'T DETERMINE WHAT COLOR PEOPLE ARE WHEN THEY
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BEEN.SO WE CAN EITHER USE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO WORK ON A HISTORY OR THE RECREATION CENTER, OR WE CAN SIT HERE AND HAVE CONVERSATION ABOUT WHY THESE PEOPLE GOT, I DID NOT MISS THE POINT.
I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT THIS IS WHY WE'RE HAVING PUBLIC COMMENT.
SO PEOPLE CAN COME HERE AND COMMENT ON WHAT THEY WANT SEE IN THIS HISTORY WALL, AND THEN ONCE THEY PUT INFORMATION TOGETHER, IT'LL COME BACK TO YOU GUYS TO SAY, YEAH, WE LIKE IT, OR NO, WE DON'T IT.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I KNOW I'M HEARING FROM MR. WOODS ISN'T NECESSARILY ABOUT COLOR.
WHAT IT'S ABOUT IS THE CONNECTION THAT EVERYBODY IN THIS COMMAND, STANLEY WHITE BUILDING WAS A SAFE HAVEN AND JUST AS IMPORTANT AND THERE WAS A RIGHT PASSAGE AND THAT HISTORY HAS TO BE FELT, HAS TO BE PROJECTED, AND IT HAS TO BE PUT ON SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA BE CONCRETE.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S IN OUR HEARTS AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE FEEL BECAUSE WE GREW UP WITH IT.
I'M HOPING THAT I'M CORRECT SAYING THAT IT'S NOT ABOUT TO FOLLOW, BUT IT'S ABOUT, IF YOU'VE NEVER GROWN UP WITH SEPARATE BUT EQUAL, THEN YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH.
IF YOU'VE NEVER GROWN UP WITH BEING ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, THAT YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU WENT THROUGH.
AND WHAT STANLEY WHITE GAVE US WAS A PERSON THAT GAVE UP HIMSELF AND ENDED UP GIVING HIS LIFE DOING SOMETHING FOR US, RIGHT OVER HERE.
WHAT WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THE BUILDING FOR SOME OF THE YOUNGER ONES WAS AT SAFE HAVEN AND IT WAS A RITE OF PASSAGE.
A LOT OF THE YOUNG PEOPLE COULD NOT GET ON THE MAIN COURTS UNTIL SOME OF THE OLDER GUYS LEFT OR UNTIL WE BOUGHT THEM ON.
AND YOU GRADUATED UP UNTIL THAT POINT.
BUT IT WAS A RIGHT OF PASSAGE.
SO IT'S MORE SO HEARTFELT THAN TO SAY, HEY, YOU DON'T LOOK LIKE ME.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT I WAS GOING THROUGH.
WELL, UNTIL YOU WALK THAT WALK, YOU REALLY CAN'T.
BUT WE'RE NOT GOING TO TAKE THE BABY OUT WITH THE BAD WATER.
WE'RE NOT GONNA SIT HERE AND ARGUE ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE ULTIMATELY WE'RE THE ONES WHO LIVED IT.
WE'RE THE ONES WHO HAVE ART STRAINS HERE AND I'M SEEING BUNCH OF OTHERS THAT HAVE HOT SCREENS IN THE, IN THE GAME.
SO WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT IT GETS IT ADJUSTABILITY.
RIGHT? AND THAT'S WHY YOU GUYS ARE HERE, THE ONES TO GIVE THE INPUT.
AND IF THEY HAD SOMEONE UNDER STAFF OF COLOR, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO GIVE SPECIFIC INPUT TO THIS HISTORY WALL.
YOU GUYS ARE PROVIDING THE CONTENT FOR THIS HISTORY.
I GUESS WHAT SAYING THE DAY TURNS OUT, DO IN HONOR OF, WELL, WE'VE NEVER DONE THIS PROCESS WITH, SO THIS IS THE FIRST TIME.
ANYBODY ELSE? OR NOT YET? NO, WE WERE JUST STARTING THE WORK SESSION.
UM, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND START THE QUESTIONS NOW AND, AND, AND PLEASE FEEL FREE TO, TO JOIN IN ANY TIME.
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WANNA SAY NO.I, I, I CAN'T EMPATHIZE WITH ANOTHER BEING.
UM, AND THERE'S NO NEED TO GET INTO ANY KIND OF, UH, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFYING KIND OF THINGS, BUT WE'RE HERE TO HEAR YOUR STORIES AND WE WANNA DO IT AS GENUINELY AND AS HELPFULLY AS WE CAN.
UM, AND I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID, MR. AND I I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU MEAN BY THAT.
UM, MR. WOODS AS WELL, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE HERE TO, TO TO BE THE TRANSLATOR TO THE, AND THAT'S REALLY HOW I SEE OUR ROLE IN US.
SO WE WANT YOU TO FEEL LIKE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT YOU CREATED.
UM, BECAUSE AS ALBERT SAID, UM, WE'RE JUST THE STORYTELLERS, THE THE PASSION AND THE PRIDE OF THIS PROJECT, IT COMES FROM YOU, IT COMES FROM THE COMMUNITY.
WE'RE LIKE YOU SAID, WE'RE NOT FROM HERE, BUT ANYTHING THAT YOU CAN SHARE WITH US IS GONNA BE PART OF THIS.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO BE HERE TODAY SO WE CAN HEAR FROM YOU.
SO, AND THE FOCUS OF THIS IS TO, WE HAVE SOME QUESTIONS FOR YOU THAT CARRIE WENT, I THINK SHE PASSED A FEW OF THEM ALONG.
AND, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU WERE ABLE TO THINK ABOUT SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS AHEAD OF TIME.
'CAUSE I'LL BE PLANNING TO TALK ABOUT.
UM, BUT OF COURSE THIS CAN BE AT A HIGH LEVEL.
THERE MAY BE DETAILS AND STORIES THAT NEED TO GO INTO MORE.
SO WE OF COURSE WOULD LOVE TO SPEAK WITH YOU AFTER THIS MEETING.
IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT'S WILLING TO TALK WITH US AND SHARE MORE STORIES, UM, WE'LL SEND AROUND A CLIPBOARD THAT YOU CAN WRITE YOUR NAME AND CONTACT INFORMATION DOWN.
UM, BECAUSE OF COURSE WE, WE'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU.
SO WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE, THE QUESTIONS THAT WE POSTED AROUND.
AND ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES IS WHAT ABOUT STANLEY WHITE, WHITE? WHAT ABOUT THE RECREATION CENTER AND THE AREA OF DUFFY FIELD SHOULD BE SHARED? ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC EVENTS, UH, ACHIEVEMENTS AND STORIES THAT YOU DEFINITELY WANNA SEE TO BE SHARED WITH THE YOUTH AND ANY AGE ON THIS WALL? AND UNDERSTAND WE'VE DONE SOME RESEARCH THAT WAS COMPLETELY COLD, BUT WE DON'T WANT TO ALSO LIKE TIP THE SCALES IN ANY PARTICULAR WAY.
SO, UM, FEEL FREE TO, WHAT DID, WHAT DID HE MEAN TO YOU? THAT'S A QUESTION THAT YOU ASKED THAT MOST PEERS THAT COME DOWN TO ONE BASIC PERSON FOR YOU, IT MAINLY, I KNOW IT WAS MAINLY THROUGH SPORTS, BUT, UM, HOW DID THAT KIND OF, DID THAT SPAN OUTSIDE OF THE ATHLETIC ACTIVITIES IN HIGH SCHOOL EDUCATION TO DO CERTAIN THINGS,
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ALL THIS STUFF.AND I DIDN'T REALIZE YEARS THAT RIGHT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, WHAT WERE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT YOU, UH, SPORTSMANSHIP AND THAT'S ONE THING.
UH, AND I, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WORKED IN RESTORATION, I, I MYSELF, I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAUGHT FIRE AND ME BEING ONE OF THE YOUNGER, UH, ONCE THAT MEMBER STANLEY WHITE COMMAND WAS THAT HE WAS A MEMBER AND AN ATHLETE ALSO.
AND WE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE HIM PERFORM AND WE HAD A CHANCE TO SEE HIM PLAY ATHLETICS.
BUT THE THING THAT CAUGHT FIRE WAS THOSE THAT CAME AFTER HIM, SUCH AS PEOPLE LIKE MR. BOOK, MR. REGGIE PENDER, WHO YOU JUST SPOKE WITH.
AND HE GAVE THEM AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT IT SHOULD BE AND HOW IT SHOULD LOOK AND HOW THEY SHOULD CARE ABOUT US AS KIDS.
AND WE WERE NOT ALWAYS EASY, BUT THEY WANTED TO PLEASE STANLEY WHITE, THE MAN.
THEY ALSO SAW HIM AS A ROLE MODEL.
WE SAW HIM AS SOMETHING AND SOMEONE THAT WAS LARGER THAN, THAN LOCKTON, BUT THEY SAW HIM AS A ROLE MODEL.
AND WE COULD TELL THAT HIS WAY CAUGHT FIRE WITH EVERYBODY THAT CAME AFTER HIM WHO KNEW HIM AND WHO PATENTED THEIR, UM, THEIR COACHING STYLE, THEIR TEACHING STYLE, AND JUST THEIR STYLE OF, HEY, LET'S HAVE FUN, BUT LET'S BE ATHLETIC ABOUT IT AND LET'S PLAY AND WIN.
BUT WHEN WE LOSE, WE LOSE GRACE.
IT RESONATED THROUGH GENERATIONS AND IT CAUGHT FIRE.
AND WHEN I MEAN IT CAUGHT FIRE, THOSE THAT PLAYED FOR HIM WANTED TO PLEASE HIM.
THOSE THAT SAW HIM AND CAME AFTER HIM, WANTED TO PLEASE HIM INSIDE THEY CLUBHOUSE, THEY HAD, UH, LITTLE GRAY ON.
US SEEING, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS THAT WE NORMALLY KIND OF THING OR LIKE SETTING AN EXAMPLE, RIGHT? SHOULD BE,
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YOU KNOW, WAS, SO HE HAD, UH, IT MAKES ME THINK ABOUT, UH, FIVE GYM.HE, FIVE SIX KNEW HE HAD FIVE, SIX KIDS HERE.
UH, WE TO GET THE SWEEP THE FLOOR, UH, SCORE GAME, UH, UH, TEACHING, YOU KNOW, THOSE, I LEARNED A LOT OF STUFF ABOUT THAT AND I HAD NO IDEA.
BUT, UH, THOSE I INSPIRE TO A PROFESS.
UH, AND YOU KNOW, THAT THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING FUNNY.
UH, I GOT, I HAD NO, UH, I ALWAYS HAD A SUMMER JOB WITH RICK.
LIKE I SAID, I, I GREW UP HERE IN THE REC CENTER.
I GRADUATED KINDERGARTEN FROM HERE.
UH, I NEVER REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT, BUT WHEN I GOT COLLEGE, THE JOB MARKET OUT, THE POSITION WAS OPEN PERSPECTIVE FOLKS.
AND OUR PASSION COMES, PASSION COMES, OUR PASSION COMES FROM STORY ABOUT.
AND BEING ABLE TO RELATE THAT TO OUR EXPERIENCES, TO THE BUILDING, EVERYTHING THAT THEY SAY, THAT EDUCATED PEOPLE, IT MENTORED PEOPLE, THE PLACE OF ORGANIZER, PLACE, PLACE A PLACE OF HONOR THEIR ANCESTORS.
IT WAS SAME SPACE THAT BUILDING FOR THIS.
SO WE CAN'T EVEN BEGIN TO, UM, UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT LOSING THAT OTHER BUILDING HAD AS WELL IN THE STORY.
BECAUSE IT WAS JUST AS I, OR NOT AS MUCH AS LOSING HIM.
SO WHEN WE LOST THE WHOLE BUILDING, WE LOST HIM BECAUSE OF HIM.
AND SO THIS BUILDING ULTIMATELY HAS TO BE AN HOMAGE TO THAT MAN AND TO THAT CAUGHT FIRE LEGACY THAT HE BLA EVERY CAME AFTER.
BECAUSE EVEN AFTER HE ATTACKED, MANY PEOPLE WANTED TO BE LIKE STANLEY WHITE AND THEY WENT TO THE WHITE CENTER TO GET THAT OF WHO STANLEY WHITE WAS AND HEAR THESE STORIES SO THAT WE CONNECTED THE, AND SO THAT'S ULTIMATELY WHAT FIELD WHEN WE'RE SAYING IT'S GOTTA TELL THAT STORY.
BEFORE THIS BUILDING WAS UPGRADED, THAT WAS THE ASSET IN THE COMMUNITY.
THAT BUILDING WAS THE ONLY ASSET.
THAT WAS THE ONLY PLACE OTHER THAN THIS WAS BEFORE IT WAS UPGRADED THAT WE COULDN'T MEET, THAT WE COULD, UH, HAVE, UH, CIVIC MEETINGS THAT WE COULD RALLY.
AND AS TO, TO, WE SAID IT WAS A SAFE HAVEN.
UH, THERE WAS NO GANG ACTIVITY THERE, THERE WERE NO, UH, NO, UH, CRIMES THAT WERE COMMITTED THERE.
AND IT'S BECAUSE OF THE LEADERSHIP THAT WE HAD WHERE THAT BUILDING WENT DOWN.
I MEAN, THERE WERE FAMILY REUNIONS THAT WOULD BE HELD AT THAT SITE.
UH, THERE WERE ELDERLY, UH, WHERE THERE WERE CLASSES FOR SENIORS THAT WERE HELD AT THAT SITE.
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A GREAT ASSET WITH THAT BUILDING, UH, WAS CONDEMNED BECAUSE OF THE, UH, FLOOD.IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SIMILARITY THERE BETWEEN FAMILY AND LIFE AS A PERSON AND THAT BEING A, UH, AN ANCHOR FOR THE COMMUNITY IN A LOT OF WAYS.
I THINK THAT'S, THERE'S SOMETHING REALLY KIND, BEAUTIFUL POET EDUCATION A LOT KNOW WHERE THEY GO FROM COMING.
ARE THERE ANY PROGRAMS THAT YOU STARTED, UM, ANY LIKE, OR YOU KNOW, ANY EVENTS, LIKE A SPECIFIC THING OR LIKE MENTORING, SOMETHING THAT CAME INTO ACHIEVE GREATNESS? IS THERE ANY, ANY BASEBALL? THERE'S BEEN SO MUCH TALENT HERE, PRIDE THAT'S COME OUTTA THAT.
EVEN WE SEE A LOT OF THAT, THESE FOLKS OUT IN THE ACHIEVED THEIR BEST ON, UH, PEOPLE THAT THAT WORKED THERE WITH US.
UH, WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT FOOTBALL.
AND THEN AT THAT TIME WE, THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT MAY NOT SEEM IMPORTANT TO OTHERS, BUT, AND EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINIONS.
ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS, AND WHEN I JUST HEARD MR. SPEAK ON IT, CAPTAIN WAS STATE.
IT WAS NOT A FIELD, IT WASN'T A PARK, IT WASN'T JUST A BASEBALL FIELD, IT WAS A STADIUM.
AND I HAVE TO, THAT'S JUST ME PERSONALLY BECAUSE IT WAS SO LARGE AS I WAS A CHILD.
AND I WAS PROUD TO HAVE THAT AS A STADIUM THAT I WAS EVEN ABLE TO PLAY IN AND THAT SOMEONE CARED ENOUGH ABOUT US TO MAINTAIN IT AS IT AS THEY DID.
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THAT'S IMPORTANT TO ME.IT HAS TO BE, YOU CAN'T SAY STANLEY WHITE WITHOUT TALKING ABOUT CA PARK.
AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT CA PARK.
PARK PARK STATED, I THINK THE CITY DID DROP A BALL ON THAT, UH, RANGER A LOT FALL, UH, HOW THE FIELD UNDER THE BLEACHERS, THE FIELD HOUSE UNDER THE BLEACHERS.
ON EACH END WITH THE SHOWER WOUND AND EVERYTHING.
BUT, UH, THE CITY DROPPED THE BALL ON IT.
THEY WAITED LATE, DECIDED STARTED PART, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TOOK PART OF IT DOWN AT THAT END.
SO, AND IT, IT JUST, I'M SORRY TO SEE THAT HAPPEN, BUT I DO HAVE THOSE, WHEN IT WAS MAJOR LEAGUE STATEMENT, WHITE LEFT SOME STRONG CAPABLE YOUNG MEN AFTER HE HAD PASSED CITY AND WHATEVER RECALL, THAT'S WHERE I WENT ABLE TO BASKETBALL GAMES GREW UP, TELL CERTAIN THINGS.
AND I LISTEN TO ONE TIME I WAS A YOUNGEST PLAYER ON TEAM.
FOR SOME REASON, AS THE YEARS WENT BY, I GREW UP, WHEN I GOT IN HIGH SCHOOL, HE WAS STILL, SO I JUST PLAYED IT.
SO WE HAD PEOPLE THAT WERE, THAT HAD TURNED PRO BY, HE WAS MARTIN BROTHER AARON MARTIN PLAYED RAMS. THEY COME WHEN HE COME HOME.
THAT'S THE WAY HE WORK OUT IN THAT.
SO I GO THERE, I TRY AND CHECK HIM.
HIS BROTHER JU JUST DOWN THE STREET OVER HERE.
HE WAS NUMBER ONE DRAFT IN NATION.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT'S BEEN IN HERE THAT PLAYED SOME OF THE PICTURES ON THE WALL OVER THERE STARTED, IT'S A LOT OF HISTORY IN THIS BUILDING.
SO WE WENT TO THE BARBER BUILDING, WE WENT DOWN, DOWN THERE, THERE WAS SOME PEOPLE LEFT.
I, I STAYED TOGETHER FOR A WHILE AND I, AND I STAYED TOGETHER FOR A WHILE AND I TOLD WHAT I DO.
I THOSE TEAMS AND ALL THOSE TEAMS, THAT'S FOOTBALL, BASEBALL, IN BASEBALL.
HE'LL CALL NAME ONE OF THE HARDEST WORKING PEOPLE THAT I KNOW OF.
SO THERE'S A WHOLE LOT GOING ON.
A WHOLE LOT OF THINGS THAT WE HAVE LEARNED FROM WHERE I DIDN'T KNOW I DO EVERYTHING, EVERYTHING THEY WORKING COACH ALSO HELP OUT.
IT ALSO CHANGES MAKE YOU MAKE YOU A BETTER PERSON THAT WE, WE ALL DIDN'T
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KNOW DOWN BUS, DOWN COOKOUT.SO I GREW UP DOING THE SAME THING WITH THE KIDS THAT I 45 YEARS.
SO IT'S MORE THAN WHAT I SAID SOMEBODY COULD SAY, EVERYONE OF US GOT A LITTLE DIFFERENT OPINION.
WHAT I LEARNED, I SAW EVERY DAY AND HE WENT ABOVE AND BEYOND YOU TALK ABOUT HIM, HE HAD LESS THE ALLEGATION RAISE MONEY.
SO MORE COMPASSIONATE AND ABOUT IT.
EVEN WHEN THE FOUGHT AGAINST AND BECAUSE I WOULDN'T LOOK AT HIM, BUT PEOPLE IDOLIZED THE MAN.
SO WHEN YOU TAKE THE BUILDING OUT AND SOMEWHERE ELSE, IT'S ALMOST LIKE A, LIKE A CEMETERY BASICALLY SEEN.
AND I'VE BEEN IN THE SAME ALL IN IT, YOU KNOW, WIRE, YOU KNOW, IN MANY AREAS THAT A LOT OF CHILDREN, A LOT OF TROUBLE.
THEM JUST FOOTBALL, BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, WE BOXING THIS PHASE, BOXING FROM HERE, MAN, YOU KNOW, THAT'S HOW I LEARNED ABOUT HOW TO AND DO A LOT THINGS BECAUSE OF, UH, NOT ONLY JUST LIFE HAD ON BE LIKE HIM IN THAT SAME, YOU KNOW, HE, HE CALLS ME, COACH ME AND I ENDED UP WORKING WITH HIM.
AND THEN JUST LIKE YOU SAID, WHEN YOU GET OLD ENOUGH, YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE STILL GOOD ENOUGH.
YOU HAVE THAT CAPACITY TO GET THOSE KIDS OUT THE STREET, HIM OUTTA THE STREET YOU WANT.
SO I ENDED UP BEING A COACH AND UM, MATTER OF FACT, I, I WORKED UNDER ON ON LOOKS LIKE, YOU KNOW, WITH, AND I ALSO READ THAT HE WAS AN ARMY VETERAN TOO.
YOU KNOW, ANYTHING EXPERIENCE MILITARY.
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IN THE, WHEN WE WENT DOWN HIGHWAY, THAT'S ALL HE HANDLED THE, BUT THEY RAN BACK THEN THEY WERE DOING KINDERGARTEN HERE.THIS WAS OUR KINDERGARTEN STAGE.
THIS WAS OUR KINDERGARTEN STAGE BACK, I THINK COVERED QUITE A LOT ABOUT THE REC CENTER LEAGUE.
AND IS THERE, I GUESS ATHLETICS GOT BROUGHT UP A LOT.
SO WHAT ABOUT ATHLETICS FOR SO MANY ROLES AND WHAT, WHY WAS, WHY DID YOU CHOOSE THAT TO MENTOR CHILDREN? WHAT IS IT ABOUT THAT TEACHES JOB BASICALLY DID.
AND IT GAVE EVERYBODY A, YOU KNOW, UH, I WASN'T ATHLETE, BUT I PLAYED ALL THE DIFFERENT SPORTS WHEN ONE ENDED, LIKE BASKETBALL ENDED FOOTBALL.
AND I SAID LEARNING THAT PLUS, UH, UH, LIKE I SAID, EVERYBODY HAS A GOOD ATHLETE.
EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW, DID SOMETHING TO HELP WAS IMPORTANT WAS BECAUSE IT WAS ABOUT TEAMWORK, BUILDING, TEACHING THE KIDS HOW TO EFFECTIVELY OPERATE IN A TEAM SOCIETY.
SOMEBODY WHO'S UNCOACHABLE IS UNEMPLOYABLE.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST, IF I CAN'T COACH YOU, YOU CAN'T WORK BECAUSE THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T DEAL WITH PEOPLE.
SO WHY ATHLETICS WAS IMPORTANT, WHETHER OR NOT YOU WERE GOOD OR NOT, IT WAS ABOUT BEING ABLE TO TEACH.
EVERYBODY HAD, UH, THAT TEACHABLE MOMENT.
YEAH, HE WAS, HE WAS ONE THAT DIDN'T HAVE TO TEACH YOU HOW TO READ OR WRITE, BUT WHEN HE GOT YOU ON THE FIELD, HE COULD SEE WHAT YOU WERE LACKING AND HE WOULD TELL YOU TO STAND UP IN THE BOX TO HIT THAT CURVE BALL.
AND WHEN THAT KID STARTED HITTING THAT CURVE BALL ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, HE COULD SEE THE JOY IN THAT KID.
AND HE KNEW THAT THAT KID WAS GONNA START FEELING SOMETHING AND FEEL A SELF WORTH.
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SEE THAT HE WAS EXCELLING.SO IT WAS ABOUT TEACHING THEM SOMETHING AND HAVING THEM TO EXCEL AT IT TO WHERE IT WAS PLEASING WITHIN THEMSELVES AND GIVING THEM SOME SELF WORTH BECAUSE THEY COULD SEE THEMSELVES GROWING AND THAT IT COULD JUST, THEY HAD A GROWTH.
AND AS I SAID, US AS KIDS, WE JUST WANTED TO PLEASE OUR COACHES AND WE DEFINITELY WANTED TO PLEASE STANLEY BALL AND WHY THAT'S BROUGHT UP A LOT.
WHY DID YOU WANNA PLEASE STANLEY? BECAUSE HE SAW SOMETHING IN US.
HE WOULD, HE WAS A SEMI-PRO BASEBALL PLAYER AND HE WOULD HAVE A FEW OF US KIDS THAT WOULD COME TO THE GAMES EARLY AND HE WOULD HAVE US SHAGGING BALLS FOR, HE WOULD ALLOW US TO GET OUT ON THE FIELD AS THEY WERE TAKING BATING PRACTICE.
AND WE WOULD BE OUT THERE AND HE WOULD BE OUT THERE WITH US AND IF WE CAUGHT A BALL, HE WOULD COME HOT US COULD CATCH AND ENCOURAGE US EVEN MORE.
NOW THAT MADE US FEEL IMPORTANT.
SOMEBODY WAS TAKING TIME INSTEAD OF KICKING US AND SAYING, ALL YOUR KIDS GO SIT DOWN OR YOU KIDS STOP, STOP RUNNING AROUND.
YOU KNOW, WE HAD ENERGY, BUT WE ALSO HAD SOMEBODY THAT CARED ABOUT US AND WOULD ALLOW US TO, AND EVEN WHEN THE KID, THE GUYS WOULD FINISH PLAYING, HE MAY STICK AROUND AND LET US RUN THE BASES.
SOMETHING SO SMALL AS RUNNING THE BASES AS KIDS AND TEACHING US HOW TO SLIDE PROPERLY.
TEACHING US HOW TO, YOU KNOW, JUST TAKING THAT TIME WITH US AFTER HE HAD ALREADY PUT IN A HARD DAY'S WORK AGAIN AND NOW HE'S GONNA STAY OUT THERE WITH SOME KIDS.
I'M LITTLE OFF SCRIPT HERE, BUT IT MAKES ME WONDER LIKE, WHAT, WHO WAS STANLEY WHITE'S STANLEY? WHO, WHO, WHO DID THAT FOR HIM THAT HE SAW THE VALUE IN TO SHARE? RIGHT.
BUT IT WAS, OR, OR WHO DID, AND HOW DID HE REACH THAT MOMENT? WHICH HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A SKILL AND I CAN REACH PEOPLE THROUGH THIS SKILL, THROUGH ATHLETICS, THROUGH BEING A MENTOR AND I'M GONNA DO THAT FOR MY COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S BAD.
I JUST, I DON'T PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, YOU THINK YOU GOTTA THING LIKE SOME SOMETHING SOMETHING OR SERIES OF SOME THINGS HAPPENED IN HIS LIFE WHERE HE SAID, YOU KNOW, I CAN, I CAN DO THIS TOO.
I COULD SHARE THIS WITH MY COMMUNITY.
YOU KNOW, YOU GOTTA GIVE IT TO HIM.
PEOPLE HAD TO THE HAVE AND THE HAVE NOT, YOU WANNA SEE THOSE KIDS.
HE, HE DIDN'T TAKE IT AS JUST A POSITION.
HE WENT OUT AND MET THE PARENTS.
YOU KNOW, THE THING IS, MOST OF THE KIDS PARENTS STILL OUT OF POCKET OUTTA LINE.
YOU CAN CHECK YOU BUT HE'LL TO YOUR HOUSE.
I KNOW THAT PERSONALLY, I WOULDN'T, I WOULDN'T KNOW BOY LIKE THAT.
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THERE WAS SOMETIMES A PLAYER THAT, THAT SOMETHING THAT I LEARNED FROM HIM.LIKE FOOTBALL, I LEARNED WHAT HE DID, WHAT I LEARNED FROM HIM.
I USED THAT RUN ENCOURAGEMENT.
YOU DEFINITELY EDUCATION THAT REALLY LEADS INTO RECREATION CENTERS.
SO THE MAIN THING THAT IMPORTANT IN SO MANY DIFFERENT WAYS THROUGH, BUT ALSO THROUGH SPORTS INITIATIVES THAT YOU MENTIONED.
UM, DO YOU THINK THAT WAS THE MAIN FOR, IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE THAT HE LOVED ABOUT RECREATION CENTERS? THAT WAS THREE SEASONS.
THAT THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED, IT'S PROBABLY OBVIOUS FOR YOU, BUT FOR ME, I WAS THINKING THE WHOLE TIME OF, OKAY, HE, HE COACHED KIDS THAT CAME TO PLAY SPORTS, RIGHT? THAT'S ONE THING.
BUT THEN HE ALSO WOULDN'T RUN OFF KIDS THAT WERE PLAY THAT MAYBE WEREN'T A TALENTED, HE GAVE THEM OPPORTUNITIES TO, TO UH, TO GET BETTER, RIGHT? TO MATCH UP WITH SOMEBODY ABOUT YOUR SAME SIZE SO YOU GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND THEN MAYBE, MAYBE EXTRA.
YOU COULD GO THROUGH THE BIGGER KID, RIGHT? IF YOU MATCH UP THE BIGGER KID.
BUT WHAT YOU JUST SAID TOO IS THAT IT WASN'T JUST ABOUT WORKING WITH WHO CAME TO HIM.
HE WENT AROUND THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND HE BROUGHT PEOPLE IN.
SO HE WAS, THERE'S NOT ONLY AN ACTIVE SORT OF RESPONSIVE THING, HE WAS PROACTIVE BY GOING OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY AND GETTING KIDS YOU OUT BACK THEN, I MEAN, THEY, NOT TOYS.
WE HAD, WELL, BUT WE WEREN'T, WE HAD BALLS.
YOU WALK WHEN YOU SAW A GROUP OF KIDS WALKING DOWN THE STREET, SOMEBODY HAD A FOOTBALL, SOMEBODY HAD A BASKETBALL.
NOBODY MAY HAVE HAD A BASEBALL OR GLOVES, BUT THEY COULD PICK UP A ROCK WITH A STICK AND SWING IT.
BUT WE DIDN'T HAVE TOYS BACK AND WE DIDN'T PLAY WITH TOYS.
WE PLAYED WITH BALLS AND THAT'S WHAT WE DID.
AND WE WOULD GET IN A GROUP AND WE WOULD EITHER PASS THE BALL AROUND OR WE WOULD THROW THE FOOTBALL OR WE WOULD GO FIND SOMETHING TO, TO GO SHOOT.
WE SHOULD SHOOT ON THE SIDE OF BARS BACK OVER HERE IF, IF THE BIG GUYS WERE, WERE PLAYING BASKETBALL, THOSE, UH, HE UH, BARS, WE GO AND MAKE A WE WE WOULD SHOOT ANYWHERE.
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THAT MAYBE HAVEN'T UNCOVERED TODAY? INVOLVEMENT OUTSIDE OF OUTSIDE ATHLETIC FAMILY? YOU COULD TELL.HOWEVER, THE INFLUENCE THAT STANLEY WHITE HAD ON EVERYBODY WHO COACHED WHO THE CENTER, EVERYTHING, IT, IT, IT WAS LIKE HE USED TO APEX AND EVERYTHING FELL UP UNDER AND IT BRANCHED OUT.
UM, REGGIE WAS THE CENTER MANAGER, THE STANLEY WHITE, THE FOOTBALL TEAMS THAT HE HAD AND THE PEOPLE WHO WORKED UNDER THE COUNTY, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUNTEERS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY.
AND IT ALL STARTED TO STAND, STARTED WITH STAND WHITE, THAT INFLUENCE THAT, THAT LEGACY.
SO HE WAS THE APEX THAT JUST STARTED THE WHOLE THING AND THEN IT BRANCH AND EVERYBODY'S GOT THEIR OWN LITTLE PART.
BERNARD GOT HIS PART WHERE HE COACH.
YOU HEARD HIM SAY HE FOR 40 SO YEARS, YOU CAN'T FIND YOUNG GUY, YOU KNOW HOW MANY KIDS IN THIS AREA END UP GOING BECAUSE OF WHAT HAPPENED IN STANLEY WHITE AND ALL THAT.
ALL THAT STEMS FROM STANLEY WHITE HIM DO SOME STUFF.
UH, UH, CINCINNATI LINEBACK IN CAROLINA I RUN INTO.
AND UH, AND SOME OF THOSE WE HAD IT REALLY, UH, CHANGED THEIR ATTITUDE.
SO THAT WAS TRYING BACK THEN TROUBLE.
BUT A LOT OF AFFORD THESE PROGRAM, ESPECIALLY IN AREA, YOU GET FOUR, FIVE, AND YOU KNOW, BACK THEN WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
YOU KNOW, THE ONES THAT, UH, COULDN'T AFFORD MY GRANDKID FLAG PER PERSON.
YOU KNOW, LIKE, I'M NOT RIGHT.
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A CHURCH LEAGUE BASEBALL.I GUESS ONE GOOD QUESTION IS, WE TALKED ABOUT ALL THESE GREAT STORIES AND THINGS THAT YOU WANNA SEE.
IS THERE ANYTHING YOU DON'T WANNA SEE? WE'RE WE'LL DEFINITELY BE RESEARCH.
WE'RE GONNA READING ABOUT EVERYTHING, WE'LL BE TALKING TO A LOT OF PEOPLE.
SO KNOWING FIRSTHAND, IS THERE ANYTHING THAT SHOULD BE EXCLUDED? I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE ANY NEGATIVE.
I MEAN, WE ALL KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON DURING THOSE TIMES AND UH, IT WASN'T A REAL POPULAR TIME.
NOT ON THIS WALL SITUATED SOMEWHERE ELSE.
NOW THE WALL, THAT BUTTON ALONG WITH THE WALL, WE DUNNO, WE, WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN THAT FAR YET.
I MEAN IT'S, THAT'S, YOU KNOW, IT'LL BE A, A BUDGET QUESTION.
IT WILL BE AN ACCESSIBILITY QUESTION IN TERMS, IT'S IN A REC CENTER.
SO MY, MY GUT TELLS ME THAT YOU WANT KIND OF KIDS RUNNING AROUND AND BEATING STUFF UP.
SO IF WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT, THAT IS INTERACTIVE, LEMME SEE IT BECAUSE OF THE TIME.
A VERY BUILDING, JUST LIKE WE DID SIT AROUND AND WE DID SOMETHING LIKE THAT, TOLD STORIES, YOU KNOW? MM-HMM.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, WELL, KIND OF A RECORDED HISTORY.
A LOT OF STATES, EVEN HISTORY.
HISTORY, NOT JUST ON THE WALL, BUT WHEN YOU THAT STAND THERE ABOUT, UM, ARE THERE, DO YOU THINK THERE'S ANYONE ELSE THAT SHOULD BE INCLUDED? THE OTHER LEADERS, VARIETY OF PEOPLE THAT MADE A BIG CONTRIBUTION AND POSITIVE IMPACT.
YOU KNOW, A LOT OF KIDS BEING PHYSICAL NEXT COMPANY FOR, YOU KNOW,
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THESE, THESE WERE THE PEOPLE THAT TOOK ON THAT LONG AS WE COULD, GOT IN THERE, DID WHAT WE NEEDED TO DO ABOUT 40 YEARS AFTER THAT TIME.IT WAS AFTER THE STORM WAS REALLY MY OPINION.
MY WHAT, UH, MOST THE YOUNG, THAT AREA WAS CRACK.
WE HAD A LOT OF PROBLEMS, A LOT OF PEOPLE UP BUILDING AND A LOT THE PEOPLE IN DIDN'T KNOW.
PEOPLE THAT WERE WORKING KNEW THE PROBLEM.
SO, UH, IT, IT, IT, IT WAS TIME.
I, I FEEL IT WAS TIME TO MOVE ON.
I LOVE THE AREA, BUT I, I MEAN REMEMBER THE PAST.
WELL I THINK THAT JUST AS IF WE'RE EXPECTING THIS TO BE A VIABLE BUILDING FOR THE NEXT, WHAT, 50, 60 YEARS, WE GOT ABOUT 40, 50 GOOD YEARS OUT OF THE OLD BUILDING.
AND TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, THOSE, UH, HIGH SCHOOL CHAMPIONSHIPS THAT CAME TO NEW BERN HIGH STARTED AT STANLEY WHITE.
AND IT STARTED BECAUSE OF THE YOUTH TEAMS THAT THOSE GUYS WHO WERE STUDENTS OF STANLEY WHITE, THE COACHES, UH, THAT COACHED THOSE YOUNG KIDS AND COACHED THEM, KEPT THEM TO TOGETHER THROUGH THE YEARS, THOSE GUYS THAT WENT ON TO PLAY PRO BALL WERE COACHED BY THE COACHES THAT COACHED BY STANLEY WHITE.
SO I DEFINITELY WANNA GIVE EVERYONE A CHANCE TO COME UP HERE.
SO WE'LL JUST KIND OF BREEZE THROUGH THIS.
IF THERE'S ANYTHING ELSE YOU RECOMMEND US TO TALK TO OR READ.
UM, SO IF WE'RE GONNA START LOOKING UP TO, UM, ANY MORE, ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANNA SAY, YOU KNOW, THE PUBLIC POLICE COME UP HERE, DEFINITELY WANNA TALK TO WILLIAM.
SO WE'LL STOP ASKING OUR QUESTIONS AND IT'S GONNA BE, UH, OPEN FROM HERE.
BUT YEAH, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO THANK EVERYONE HERE.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A CHANCE TO MEET YOU AND HEARA.
WE REALLY APPRECIATE THIS AND WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO TELLING YOUR STORY, HONESTLY, DOING EVEN, EVEN THOUGH.
[8. Public Comment.]
ALL RIGHT, SO WE OPEN THE PUBLIC COMMENT, MR. MOORE, IF YOU WANNA COME UP OR MS. COME UP REAL QUICK, POSSIBLE TO DO THAT.BUT I'LL, UM, THIS IS A CONCEPT THAT THE FAMILY CAME UP WITH.
IT SAID HIS WALL STANDING WHITE HAD HIS PICTURE A TREE, WHICH HIS FAMILY WAS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING TO HIS CHURCH EVER NEEDED.
HIS, AND I THINK THAT KIND OF TELLS WHAT IT WAS LIKE FROM HERE AT CEDAR STREET.
UH, BE ABLE TO INPUT PICTURES AND, UH, NARRATIVE THAT WILL INDICATE THAT SUCCESS AND THEN WHAT IT'S LIKE TODAY WITH THE NEW ONE.
SO THAT'S WHAT YOU GOT THIS JUST A CONCEPT.
BUT ALSO HERE WE HAVE A BRIDGE, UH, FOR THE FUTURE AND IT SAYS EXTENDING THE LEGACY OF CHIEF TO THE NEXT SEVERAL GENERATIONS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF LIKE TELLING HIS STORY, WHAT IT WAS LIKE, WHAT HAPPENED ALONG THE WAY AND HOW IT'S TODAY.
SO LET ME JUST SAY REAL QUICK, UH, AS MR. WOOD HAD INDICATED THAT HIS FEELINGS ABOUT THE NARRATIVE, AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN A LOT GOING ON, ABOUT NOT MOVING THE CENTER TO WHERE IT SET, WHICH WAS THE BEST DEAL ABOUT THE
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AFRICAN AMERICAN COMMUNITY NOT BE BEING WRITTEN OUT OF THE NARRATIVE, UH, THROUGH THE CENTER AND THIS PROGRAM.AND WE SAY WE ARE GOING TO ASSURE THAT IT MAINTAIN THAT INTEGRITY.
UM, SO IT'S BEEN A LOT SAID, UM, PERSONALLY, UM, AND I'VE SAID, AS I SAID BEFORE, TRUST THE PROCESS PROCESS.
I FELT THAT MAYBE THIS GROUP COULD HAVE TALKED TO THE FAMILY FIRST.
I'M, I'M JUST BEING HONEST, BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE EVERYTHING LIES.
AND THEN COME, UH, UH, AND, AND THE FAMILY SHOULD HAVE BEEN, IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN MORE OF A INTIMATE CONNECTION.
AND THEN PUBLICLY, I'M SURE LUTHER KING, WHEN THEY DID THEIR WHATEVER, THEY TALKED TO THE FAMILY FIRST.
SO I FELT THAT WAS KIND OF OUR WANT.
SO, SO WE HERE TODAY AND THERE'S SO MUCH I CAN SAY, BUT FIRST AND FOREMOST, STANLEY WAS A MAN OF FAITH.
UH, AND HE PLAYED ALL SPORTS, WENT TO HAMPTON INSTITUTE ON, ON FOOTBALL SCHOLARSHIP, RAN TRACK, GRADUATED WITH BSB, IRAQ, WENT ON INTO THE ARMY.
UM, THESE ARE TONS OF, UH, STANLEY WHITE APRIL BEFORE JUNE 20TH.
I MEAN THIS TELL THE HISTORY, HISTORY A LOT.
IT'S A OVER, THESE ARE TONS OF PICTURES OF THE VERN GIANTS.
UH, AND I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR THE LONGEST, CLEO HAS IT, CLEO FAMILY AND FRIENDS FROM 1962 FIFTIES, UH, WAY BACK.
PICTURES, FAMILY PICTURES, PICTURES OF HIM AND HIS KIDS, UH, RECREATION CENTER, AUGUST, 1976, THE CENTER THAT FLOODED.
I MEAN, EVEN WHEN WE WENT OUT THERE AND DID, UM, THE ADDITIONAL REGIMEN, UH, THESE ARE PICTURES.
AND YOU GUYS ARE WELCOME TO, UH, SIT, SIT DOWN.
AND, AND CLEO HAS, HAS TONS OF, UH, I WANTED TO BRING, THIS IS HIS WHOLE THING GIVEN TO HIM ON OCTOBER THE 19TH.
SO PAM DIDN'T WANT TO GET THIS UP.
UH, THERE'S A COMPANY ON THE BACK, YOU MAY KNOW IT'S, UH, IN RALEIGH AND THEY CAN DUPLICATE THIS, BUT I THINK THIS WOULD BE GREAT PIECE.
IT'S HALL OF FAME TO BE A PIECE.
SOME, SO ACTUALLY, UH, THERE'S TONS OF STUFF.
UM, THAT'S, THAT'S RELEVANT FROM WAY BACK.
I WOULD SAY THAT, UM, REVEREND JOHNSON WAS HERE.
WEST STREET SCHOOL WAS IN PORT.
THAT'S WHERE HE FINISHED HIGH SCHOOL, OF COURSE, UH, HALF INSTITUTE.
THE NEW JUDGE HAD A BASEBALL CLUB.
WHERE'S THAT BAT? SHE GOT A PACK.
WE GONNA DUPLICATE THEM PATCHES.
UH, BUT YOU REMEMBER THE INDIANAPOLIS CLOWN COME DOWN EVERY YEAR, PROFESSIONAL BLACK TEAMS LIKE THE GLOBETROT.
THEY DID BASEBALL, LIKE THE GLOBETROT, THEY USED TO COME DOWN.
UH, THE NEW BALL USED TO BE HERE.
WE WOULD GO UP THERE NEXT YEAR AND THEY PLAY BASEBALL THAT WEEKEND.
I MEAN, THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UH, WAS SO IMPORTANT.
UM, BUT PROBABLY MARTIN, WE HAD MENTIONED HER.
STANLEY WAS THE ATHLETIC DIRECTOR.
UH, BUT ANYWAY, JIM POLL,
AND YOU KNOW, JD DUNN, HE USED TO COME DOWN, UH, FROM THE MILITARY PLAY.
UH, FRANKIE HAMILTON USED TO COME DOWN FROM VIRGINIA, SO MANY MORE.
UH, SO MANY OF THE GUYS BOOK KEEP BRIAN, UH, THAT, THAT WAS CLOSE TO STANLEY.
UH, BUT WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO GETTING BACK TOGETHER AGAIN.
AND, AND, UH, JUST SHARE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF THE
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HISTORY.THE FAMILY, HE HAD TWO BROTHERS.
ROSES, UH, CALVIN FORD, HE WAS THE YOUNGEST, WAS THE OLDEST.
UH, BUT YES, SPORTS WAS THE VEHICLE THAT HE WAS BLESSED WITH.
I MEAN, THIS GUY WAS BUILT LIKE BILL.
YOU KNOW, I STARTED MY EARLIEST, REMEMBER AT FIVE YEARS OLD KINDERGARTEN AND THE CONNECTION WAS MADE.
I USED TO WALK FROM WEST STREET SCHOOL TO HERE, SIT IN HIS OFFICE AT HIS DESK, DO MY OWN WORK FIRST HE WAS A, HE WAS, UH, HOW DO YOU CALL IT? SECOND IN YOUR CLASS IN HIGH SCHOOL, HOW, OKAY.
BUT ANYWAY, I HAD TO DO HOMEWORK AND HE THREW ME A 12 YEARS AGO.
I REMEMBER CALLING THE, AND EVERYTHING, UH, LEAGUE.
UH, AND SO THROUGH SPORTS, HE, HE EDUCATED THROUGH SPORTS, HE CONNECTED, HE ENGAGED, UH, HE TALKING A MAN OF COMPASSION, UH, VERY FEW WORDS, UH, WITH A LOT OF ACTION.
AND, UH, HIS TWO SPORTS THAT HE TAUGHT, FUNDAMENTAL SKILLS, UH, LIFE SKILLS, UH, CHARACTER BUILDING.
HE WORKED WITH THE AT RISK, YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BOXING GLOVES, THE RING THAT WAS FOR, UH, THOSE GUYS WHERE THE GREAT RUMBLE THING, UH, BAND, THE STATE GUYS, THEY, THEY WERE ACTUALLY GROUP GAMES AND UH, HE DIDN'T KICK THEM TO THE CURB.
THEY DIDN'T GO TO SCHOOL, BUT HE FOUND A WAY TO ENGAGE THOSE GUYS.
JOHNNY MOORE, ONE OF THE BEST PITCHERS LEFT HERE, UH, CAME OUT OF PRISON STANDING RECRUITING HIM AND, AND MENTORED HIM.
AND SO I COULD REMEMBER, UH, I WAS 15 AND JUNE THE 30TH, 1971, I WAS 15, TURNING 16.
AND WE GOT A CALL FROM, UH, HIS MOTHER GLAD THAT, UH, HE HAD DECEASED AT CAME PARK, UH, ON FATHER'S DAY.
UM, I DON'T KNOW, THE LAST THREE YEARS FOR ME HAS BEEN A WAKE UP CALL.
HE MENTIONED, I, I RANT ALL MOON LEAGUE FOR FOUR OR FIVE YEARS, ONE PROBABLY BETTER BASEBALL PROGRAM AS A VOLUNTEER.
THE COACHES WENT OUT AND GOT UNIFORMS AND UH, WE BROUGHT IN CHARLES, NEW YORK, DID SUMMER CAMP, BASKETBALL CLINICS, A LOT OF THINGS THAT MENTIONED, BUT I, OMAHA.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, FORTUNATELY, UH, SOME OF THOSE TRAITS AS AN ATHLETE, I WOULD SAY I WAS PROBABLY MY SENIOR, THE BEST ATHLETE IN NEWBURG THAT IN BASKETBALL, BASEBALL, UH, LVP WENT ON THE FEDERAL, STATE, GRADUATED, WORKED IN, UH, THE LITTLE BIT RECREATION, SIGNED A A TWO YEAR CONTRACT WITH THE GRADES.
GOTTA PLAY ONE YEAR, BUT THEY, TO COME BACK HERE AND DO TEACH PI THINK I WAS YOUR FIFTH GRADE P AT
BUT ANYWAY, YEAH, HE CALLED ME MR. MOORE.
BUT ANYWAY, UH, I, I SAID ALL THAT TO SAY AND, AND, UH, PROBABLY DIDN'T REACH MY PENALTY, UH, BECAUSE A GREAT PIECE OF ME WAS WALLS 15, 20 16.
I DIDN'T HAVE THAT PERSON TO CHECK BACK IN WITH DURING COLLEGE AND AFTER THAT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THE LAST THREE YEARS, I'LL SAY THIS, THAT THAT ONE MAN DID NOT JUST WORK.
HE HAD A VISION, HE HAD AN ANOINTING AND HE CARRIED A MAN TO DO WHAT HE DID.
I SEEN HIM DRIVE THE SHA BEACH, COME HOME, KICK FOOT AS AND DRIVE HERE, FIX THE FIELD, GO BACK OUT TO GAMES, CALL UP BEHIND THE PLATE BALL AND STRIPE.
TAKE THE SCORE BOOK FROM BEHIND, BREATH BREAK AND KEEP SCORE.
AND SO THAT WAS A PASSION AND IT FULL OF COMPASSION, I THINK IN ORDER FOR THE SPIRIT.
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STANDING WHITE.HE COULD HAVE HAD A SHACK AND HE STILL WOULD'VE DID THE WORK HE DID.
IT WAS ABOUT A SPIRIT AND AN ANOINTING, UH, AND A VISION TO ENGAGE HIS COMMUNITY, TO BRING HOPE TO THAT COMMUNITY.
SPORTS AND ENGAGEMENTS AND ACTIVITIES, UH, AND, AND ALL AGES.
HE, HE, HE TRIED TO DEVELOP THE WHOLE PERSON, MEANING THE SPIRIT FAN, THE MIND AND THE EDUCATION, THE INTELLECT AS WELL AS THE PHYSICALITY.
SO, UH, HE, HE WAS A GREAT MAN FOR ME.
AND, UH, I WILL LOVE TO CONTINUE AND I WILL AT WHATEVER COST CONTINUE TO EXTEND HIS LEGACY TO THE NEXT SEVERAL GENERATIONS.
I JUST TURNED 69 YESTERDAY, GOT A LITTLE GUT, BUT I STILL IN SHAPE.
THE GUY HAS KEPT ME FOR A REASON.
I WOULD LIKE TO, HE WAS SO INVOLVED WITH THE CHILDREN UNTIL SOMETIMES THE KIDS WOULD COME, THEY SITTING OUT ON THE PORCH, HIM UP AND SOME DAYS WHEN HE OFF, LIKE ON SATURDAY, THEY, HE WOULD COME TAKE HIS TIME TO COME OUT AND CITIZEN BUS THOSE UP.
AND THEN SOMETIME MYSELF, I KNOW EVERYTHING CAN'T BE DONE AT ONE TIME, BUT, OR SOME KIND OF, OR SOMETHING PUT IN THAT AREA, HIS LIFE OUTSIDE KIND LIKE THEY, IN THE AREA WHERE HIS HOME WAS, PAM WAS HERE, SHE'S A RETIRED TEACHER.
SECOND TIME SHE'S GONNA TAKE THE LEAD FOUNDATION GOING FORWARD WOULD BE, UH, BUT TO POSSIBLY DO, UH, SCHOLARSHIPS IN THE AREA OF, UH, EDUCATION, ACADEMIC AND CITIZENSHIP, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ONE OTHER THING, AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY OF YOU THIS OR KNOW THIS.
I GREW UP RIGHT ON THIS CORNER DOWN HERE.
AND I KNOW YOU WERE RIGHT HERE, BUT, AND YOU MAY HAVE BEEN ONE OF THOSE ON THAT MORNING.
KEVIN, KEVIN JONES WAS AT HIS GRANDMOTHER'S HOUSE AND THAT'S HOW I FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
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US THAT WENT OUT TO CABLE PARK THAT MORNING.MY FATHER ALLOWED ME TO GO OUT.
I WAS LIKE EIGHT YEARS OLD AND HE ALLOWED ME AND MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS TO BE ABLE TO GO OUT.
AND MY FATHER WAS SO HURT AT THAT PARTICULAR MOMENT.
AND MY FATHER, YOU ALL KNOW WHO I'M TALKING ABOUT, BUT TO SEE THAT MAN CRY AT THAT PARK ON THAT DAY, I COULD STILL SEE HIM.
AND HE, NOW, HE WAS LARGELY LIFE TO ME ALONG WITH, WITH STANLEY WHITE.
BUT TO SEE MY FATHER JUST BREAK DOWN.
FRANK EVANS WAS THERE, POP EVANS WAS THERE, REVEREND, UH, I DON'T KNOW.
I DON'T THINK REVEREND WHITE WAS THERE, REVEREND CHC WHITE.
BUT THERE WAS SO MANY TEACHERS FROM, FROM BURN STREET AND I DON'T KNOW WHO ELSE WAS THERE.
IT WASN'T, IT WASN'T TOO IN DRY EYES, I KNOW THAT.
BUT IT WAS PACKED OUT THERE AND THERE WASN'T A WHOLE LOT OF WORDS OUT THERE EITHER.
AND THERE WERE NOT KIDS RUNNING AROUND.
THERE WERE A LOT OF KIDS OUT THERE, BUT WE KNEW NOW THAT WAS THE END OF AN AREA AND WE BEHAVE AND TREATED OURSELVES IN COURT.
TWO OTHER GENTLEMEN THAT CAME TO MIND GOING, HE DID THE CONCERNED CITIZENS AND A LOT OF THOSE MEETING OUT BEFORE AND AFTER AND MOVING FORWARD, UH, IN RECREATION, SOME OF TO INCORPORATE BE, HE WAS MY MOTHER'S DOCTOR STREET.
ANYWAY, I GUESS THIS PROCESS, THEY'LL DONE THEIR RESEARCH, THEY'LL START PUTTING SOME STUFF TOGETHER AND BRING IT BACK TO US TO LOOK AT AND SEE AND GET OUR THOUGHTS ON.
UM, Y'ALL HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? NO, I I THINK THIS HAS BEEN FANTASTIC.
SO WE WILL, WE'LL TAKE WHAT WE'VE GOT.
WE'LL PROBABLY ASK SOME QUESTIONS, UH, IN THE INTERIM, YOU KNOW, JUST TRY TO CLARIFY SOME THINGS AND WHAT, WHAT WE LIKE TO DO IS, IS KIND OF WORK.
UH, IF YOU IMAGINE, UM, CARBON OUT STONE, YOU GOT BIG LOT, YOU START CHIPPING THE BIG PIECES AWAY, UH, LET YOU LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF IT STARTS TO SORT OF SEEM LIKE IT'S THE RIGHT SHAPE AND IT'S GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.
AND THEN, UH, KEEP GOING FURTHER FURTHER UNTIL WE GET DOWN TO EXACTLY WHAT YOU WANT, AS CLOSE AS WE POSSIBLY GET EXACTLY YOU WANT.
SO IT'S A BIT OF A PROCESS, BUT, UM, BIG IDEAS DOWN TO THE, THE FINAL SORT OF THING.
THANK YOU FOR THE PROCESS, UH, COMMENT.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT, WE DON'T GET THAT A LOT FROM PEOPLE REALLY UNDERSTANDING THAT IT IS A PROCESS AND IT IS, UH, AND SOMETIMES IT, IT IS JUST TRUSTING IT TO, TO GO THROUGH WORK ITS WAY OUT.
BUT YOUR INPUT'S CRITICAL AND WE APPRECIATE IT AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND THERE'S DEFINITELY LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT AND COVER.
SO I'M GONNA PASS AROUND SITUATION.
IT WON'T BE SHARED OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.