[1. Meeting opened by Mayor Odham. Prayer by Alderman Royal. Pledge of Allegiance. ]
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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE JULY 9TH, 2024 NEWBURN BOARD OF ALDERMAN MEETING.
THE PRAYER TONIGHT WILL BE GIVEN BY ALDERMAN ROYAL.
GOOD EVENING AND THANK YOU, MAYOR.
THIS EVENING, OUR PRAYER WILL BE OFFERED BY THE REVEREND CALL KENNEDY.
HE IS THE PASTOR OF THE STAR OF ZION MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH, AND ALSO A MEMBER OF EAST COAST COALITION OF PASTORS.
REVEREND KENNEDY LOVE US PRAYER.
HEAVEN AND FATHER LORD WILL COME AS ALMOST WE KNOW HOW RIGHT NOW.
LORD, WE ASK YOU TO POUR YOUR SPIRIT UPON THIS MEETING.
WE ARE HERE TO HELP THOSE, UH, LESS FORTUNATE AND THOSE ARE IN NEED.
LORD, LET THE DECISION MADE BE BENEFIT FOR EVERYONE IN THE COMMUNITY.
FATHER, BLESS THE ONES THAT'S ON THE BOARD, LORD, AND TOUCH THEIR HORSE LORD AND LET THEIR EARS EYES BE OPEN TO WHAT THUS SAID IN THE LORD.
SO BLESS 'EM IN A MINOR WAY, LORD, IN JESUS NAME, AMEN.
IF YOU WOULD PLEASE STAND WITH ME, THE PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE AND THE FLAG OF OUR COUNTRY.
I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ERMAN CREEL.
[3. Approve Agenda. ]
OKAY.UH, BOARD NUMBER THREE IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
STAFF HAS ASKED THAT WE PULL NUMBER EIGHT.
UM, THEY EXPECT THAT TO BE PUSHED TO THE AU AUGUST MEETING.
SO, UM, IF YOUR SPIRIT OF YOUR MOTION WOULD INCLUDE REMOVING, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, PLEASE.
THIS HAS ALREADY BEEN NOTICED FOR TONIGHT.
IT WAS NOTICED FOR THE LAST MEETING.
AND SO WE'VE GOT A BAD NOTICE.
MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS IS, UM, A MINUS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
NEXT UP IS REQUESTING PETITION OF CITIZENS.
MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY? WE DO NOT.
[Consent Agenda ]
NEXT UP WOULD BE THE ROLL CALL FOR THE CONSENT AGENDA.ANY ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA YOU'D LIKE TO DISCUSS? IF NOT, WE ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE.
HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE CONSENT AGENDA.
HEARING NONE, LET'S HAVE A ROLL CROSS, STARTING WITH ALDERMAN P PRILL.
[Items 9 & 10 ]
CARRIES.NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER NINE, AND I'VE GOT A NOTE THAT ITEM NUMBER NINE AND 10 CAN BE COMBINED IF WE'D LIKE TO.
ITEM NUMBER NINE IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SALE OF NINE 10 GREEN STREET.
AND ITEM NUMBER 10 IS CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING THE SALE OF 4 0 8 SUTTON VALLEY, MR. HUGHES.
SO, BCJ DEVELOPMENT LLC SUBMITTED A BID IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,000 FOR THE NINE 10 GREEN STREET PARCEL.
THIS BID WAS ADVERTISED BUT NO UPSET BIDS WERE RECEIVED.
1 1 5 ACRE RESIDENTIAL TA TRACT WITH A TA BY TAX VALUE OF $6,000.
IT WAS ACQUIRED BY THE CITY AND COUNTY IN JUNE OF 2015 THROUGH TAX FORECLOSURE.
IF THE PROPERTY IS SOLD FOR THIS AMOUNT, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $623 29 CENTS, AND THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE $2,376 71 CENTS ON THE NEXT PROPERTY.
LAY TEAM AND REMODELERS, LLC UH, SUBMITTED A BID IN THE AMOUNT OF $1,500 FOR THE SUTTON'S ALLEY PROPERTY.
THIS BID WAS ADVERTISED BUT NO UPSET BIDS WERE RECEIVED.
THIS IS A 0.03 ACRE COMMERCIAL TRACK WITH A TAX VALUE OF $3,000.
IT WAS ACQUIRED BY THE CITY AND COUNTY IN JULY OF 2013 THROUGH TAX FORECLOSURE.
IF THE PROPERTY SOLD FOR THIS AMOUNT, THE CITY WILL RECEIVE $415 72 CENTS, AND THE COUNTY WILL RECEIVE 1080 $4 28 CENTS FROM THE PROCEEDS.
UH, MR. ATTORNEY, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU.
I, I NOTICED THAT ON ITEM NUMBER 10, THE POTENTIAL PURCHASER LAY TEAM AND REMODELERS LC IS NOT REGISTERED WITH THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA SECRETARY OF STATE.
IS THAT ANY ONUS ON US? NOT A WORRY FOR US.
'CAUSE UM, WITHOUT REGISTERING HERE, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY LIABILITY PROTECTION.
SO, BUT DOESN'T, IT DOESN'T AFFECT OUR TRANSACTION.
SO IF WE DO A TRANSACTION WITH AN ENTITY
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THAT'S NOT REALLY AN ENTITY.THEY'RE AN OBVIOUSLY ENTITY JUST FOREIGN TO US.
OR HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER NINE OR 10? MAY I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE A RESOLUTION OF THE SALE OF NINE 10 GREEN STREET AS WELL AS 4 0 8 SUTTON ISLAND? SECOND? HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON ITEM NUMBER NINE OR 10? HEARING NONE.
LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN ROYAL.
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NEXT UP IS, UH, SO I'VE GOT ALSO ANOTHER NOTE THAT ITEMS NUMBER 11, 12, 13, AND 14 CAN ALL BE COMBINED IF DESIRED.SO, UH, I'LL READ, I'LL READ THEM ALL INDIVIDUALLY.
ITEM NUMBER 11 IS CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND CLOSE THE BROADBAND PROJECT FUND.
ITEM NUMBER 12 IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND CLOSE THE NORTHWEST INTERCEPTOR PROJECT FUND.
ITEM NUMBER 13 IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE 2 1 2 KALE ROAD PROJECT FUND.
AND ITEM NUMBER 14 IS CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWNSHIP SEVEN SEWER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT FUND.
AND I BELIEVE MS. OSTROM IS GONNA HANDLE ALL OF THOSE.
UM, THE MAKE READY BOUGHT, UM, PUBLIC INFRASTRUCTURE AND BROADBAND SERVICE PROVIDER PROJECT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK, UM, IN 2021 WITH A BUDGET OF 7.2 MILLION.
IT WAS REDUCED ALREADY TO 3 MILLION BASED ON REVISED, UM, ESTIMATES.
AFTER REVIEWING THE EXPENDITURES AND THE ANTICIPATED FUTURE ACTIVITY, IT DOES NOT SEEM THAT THIS MEETS THE REQUIREMENT OF A PROJECT FUND.
UM, SO THEREFORE WE'VE, UM, CHARGE THOSE EXPENSES BACK TO THE RESPECTIVE OPERATING FUNDS AND ARE ASKING TO CLOSE THE FUND OUT.
AS FOR NUMBER 12, THE UM, NORTHWEST INTERCEPT REHABILITATION PHASE TWO PROJECT FUND ESTABLISHED IN, UM, APRIL 2, 2 26, 2022, IS NOW COMPLETE.
THAT TOTAL COST WAS $1,267,456 AND 91 CENTS.
SO I'VE ASKED TO CLOSE THAT FUND.
UM, THE TWO 12 K ROAD PROJECT FUND NUMBER 13, UH, IS JUST AMENDING THE BUDGET, UH, TO INCLUDE THE 2.2 MILLION IN FINANCING.
THE ORIGINAL BUDGET STARTED OFF AT TWO, $2 MILLION.
SO WE'RE JUST ADDING THAT $200,000 TO RECOGNIZE THAT ADDITIONAL FINANCING.
AND THEN NUMBER 14 IS THE TOWNSHIP SEVEN SUE IMPROVEMENTS FUND.
AND THAT ONE IS TO REALIGN, UM, THAT BUDGET TO, UH, THE REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES OF $9,714,139.
ANY QUESTIONS? MAYOR, IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND AND CLOSE THE BROADBAND PROJECT FUND.
ALSO TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND ENCLOSED THE NORTHWEST INTERCEPTOR PROJECT FUND, ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TWO 12 KELL ROAD PROJECT, FUND AND ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE TOWN OF SHIP SEVEN SEWER IMPROVEMENTS PROJECT FUND.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN ASTOR.
[15. Appointment(s). ]
CARRIES.UM, I KNOW, KNOW, IT'S THAT TIME OF YEAR.
SO I'LL JUST START AT ONE END AND GO TO THE OTHER.
IF YOU HAVE ANY ALDERMAN PRI ANY APPOINTMENTS TONIGHT? UH, I DON'T, NOT AT THIS TIME.
I WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND MS. DANIELLE PEOPLES TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
MS. PEOPLES IS HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT.
SHE BRINGS A WEALTH OF EXPERIENCE.
SHE HAS BACKGROUND IN INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS WITH DUKE ENERGY AND CUSTOMER, UH, AND REGULATORY ASSESSMENTS.
I BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL BE AN ASSET TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ANY MORE, ANY OTHER APPOINTMENTS TONIGHT? ALDERMAN ROYAL? NO, SIR.
ALDERMAN ASKED HER ANY APPOINTMENTS? UH, YES.
UH, MAYOR, UM, DAVE FINRA HAS RECENTLY, UM, HAD TO RETIRE AS THE, UM, UH, DIRECTOR FOR THE FIREMAN MUSEUM.
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FIREMAN'S MUSEUM AND THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FROM THE FIN FIREMAN'S MUSEUM HAS REQUESTED THAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN APPOINT JAMES MCCONNELL TO THE, UM, BOARD THE FIELD OF VACANCY.THIS WAS CREATED BY WAYNE YOUNGEST? YOUNGEST
SO YOU HAVE A, A MOTION TO APPOINT JIM MCCONNELL TO REPLACE WAYNE UNEX? YES.
MAYOR, THAT'S ACTUALLY ALDERMAN KINZIE'S APPOINTMENT TO ME.
DO YOU WANNA SECOND IT? I, IF HE APPOINT, IF HE DOES IT, I'LL SECOND IT.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPOINT JIM MCCONNELL TO THE VACANCY.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THERE ANY MORE APPOINTMENTS? NONE SIR.
ALDERMAN MCKENZIE? WE ALL DONE
ALDERMAN, BEST? ANY APPOINTMENTS? NO.
[16. Attorney’s Report. ]
NEXT UP IS ATTORNEY'S REPORT.[17. City Manager’s Report. ]
MANAGER'S REPORT.A FEW THINGS TO COVER WITH YOU.
SO LAST WEEK I EMAILED, UH, THE MONUMENTS, MEMORIALS, MARKERS AND, AND PLAQUES DRAFT POLICY FOR YOUR REVIEW.
UH, I DID HEAR BACK FROM ALDERMAN BRISSON ON MONDAY WITH SOME COMMENTS.
UM, BEFORE I GO OVER THIS, I WANNA SEE IF, AND I'VE ALSO GOT A COPY OF THAT FOR YOU IN FRONT OF YOU.
UH, DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO, UH, SEE ADJUSTED IN THIS BEFORE I MAKE SOME COMMENTS? I'M GONNA TELL ON MYSELF AND, AND JUST SAY, I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
AND SO, UM, BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOES, DOES IS POLICY SPELLS OUT DEFINITIONS FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS, WHICH YOU'LL SEE.
AND IT, AND IT, UM, TALKS ABOUT THE PROCESS.
AND THE PROCESS IS BASICALLY THERE'S AN APPLICATION THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.
ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN A MEMORIAL MARKER OR MONUMENT ON CITY PROPERTY OR THE RIGHT OF WAY, THEY WOULD'VE TO FILL THAT OUT AND PROVIDE THE APPROPRIATE INFORMATION THAT'S REQUESTED, SUBMIT THAT TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE STAFF WOULD THEN MEET WITH THE APPLICANT, UH, TO, TO LISTEN TO THEIR REQUEST.
DEPENDING ON, ON WHAT THE ITEM IS, IT WOULD, IT WOULD GO THROUGH THAT APPROVAL PROCESS.
SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE, WE DID CARVE OUT WAS, UH, A NEWBURN BEAR SINCE WE GOT THE HISTORY OF NEW BRUM BEARS IN RIGHT OF WAY, OR A, A FEW ON CITY SIDEWALKS, WE'RE MAKING THE RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE THAT, UH, BE APPROVED BY THE CITY MANAGER.
AND REALLY THE ONLY OTHER THING THAT WOULD, WOULD BE APPROVED BY, ON THE STAFF LEVEL WOULD BE PLACEMENT OF MONUMENTS, MEMORIALS, AND MARKERS LOCATED IN THE STREET RIGHT OF WAY THAT WAS INITIATED BY CITY STAFF.
AND SO, UH, SOME EXAMPLES OF THAT, AND I'M GONNA GIVE YOU TWO EXAMPLES THAT, THAT WE COULD THINK OF.
ONE WAS WHEN THE ANDREWS CHAPEL HISTORIC MARKER WAS DAMAGED, IT WAS LOCATED ON BROAD STREET.
ONCE THAT MARKER CAME BACK TO THE CITY TO TO BE REPLACED, STAFF LOOKED AT PUTTING THAT ON, UH, HANCOCK STREET.
SO THAT DIDN'T REALLY NEED BOARD APPROVAL FOR THAT.
AND THE OTHER ONE IS, UH, ONE WE'RE GETTING READY TO PUT BACK UP.
AND THAT'S THE BATTLE OF NEWBURN PLAQUE.
AND THAT WAS LOCATED, UH, ADJACENT TO THE OLD SHRINERS WATERFRONT LOT.
SO WE ARE GONNA BE PLACING THAT BACK IN THE SAME GENERAL AREA.
THAT'S REALLY THE ONLY THING WE COULD, WE COULD THINK OF FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
IF SOMETHING HAD BEEN HAD COME DOWN OR IF THE STATE REACHED OUT TO US REGARDING A MARKER, UM, ANY OTHER REQUESTS, UH, WOULD, WOULD GO TO THE BOARD OF ARGUMENT FOR CONSIDERATION.
THIS POLICY DOES NOT INCLUDE THE NAMING OF STREETS, UM, BUILDINGS, FACILITY ROOMS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
ANY, ANY TIME THAT A REQUEST WOULD COME FOR THAT, THAT WOULD BE UP TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO DETERMINE HOW YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED WITH THAT PROCESS.
UM, AND I'LL, I'LL MENTION SOME THINGS THAT ALDERMAN BRISSON DID, DID POINT OUT IN THIS.
UM, UNDER ITEM NUMBER THREE, COMMUNITY SIGNIFICANCE.
AND, AND THERE WERE SEVERAL THINGS TO LOOK AT WHEN CONSIDERING CERTAIN MARKERS.
UH, WHAT WE HAD IN HERE WAS, UH, TO ASSURE THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE EVENT OR PERSON AS WITHSTOOD THE TEST OF TIME AND PROJECT MAY ONLY COMMEMORATE AN EVENT ONE YEAR OR OLDER, OR, OR A PERSON ONE YEAR MORE POSTHUMOUSLY.
AND HE HAD MADE THE RECOMMENDATION OF AT LEAST FIVE YEARS.
UM, WE ALSO DID INDICATE THAT, UH, UNDER OWNERSHIP, JUST BECAUSE IT'S PLACED IN A CITY RIGHT OF WAY OR CITY PROPERTY DOES NOT MEAN THAT THE CITY WOULD RETAIN OWNERSHIP AND MAINTENANCE OF IT.
UM, ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALSO ASK FOR IN THE APPLICATION PROCESS IS, UM, WHOEVER THE APPLICANT WOULD BE, THEY, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO SHOW HOW IT WOULD BE MAINTAINED IN, IN THE FUTURE.
NOW, HOW LONG IN THE FUTURE THAT WOULD BE, THAT'S STILL UP IN THE AIR.
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THE BOARD OFI, I'D LIKE TO, UM, ADD TO THAT, AND I'M SORRY I FAILED TO GET BACK WITH YOU.
IT WAS MY UNDERSTANDING, I THOUGHT THAT WE WAS GOING TO DEVELOP A BLANKET, SO TO SPEAK, POLICY REGARDING, UM, CITY PROPERTY AND, AND INSTALLING WHATEVER THE CASE MIGHT BE THERE.
LOOKING AT THE DRAFT, AND AGAIN, IT'S ONLY A DRAFT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE ARE CHASING A LOT OF THINGS.
IT HAS TO GO BEFORE YOU, IT HAS TO INVOLVE, UH, CITY STAFF.
AND, UH, IF THERE'S NO CONCLUSION, THEN IT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
I THOUGHT THAT WE WERE GOING TO DEVELOP SOMETHING THAT WOULD ELIMINATE A LOT OF THAT INSTEAD OF A LOT OF DETAILS THAT WE SEE IN THE DRAFT.
WELL, WELL THIS WOULD HAVE TO HAVE DETAILS, OTHERWISE SOMEONE COULD JUST SAY, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THIS MONUMENT AND WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING TO SHOW FOR.
SO WE'RE, WE'RE REQUESTING AN APPLICATION SO THAT IF WE DO GET, GET SOMEONE THAT WANTS TO PUT A MONUMENT UP, WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR.
WE'LL KNOW EXACTLY THE LOCATION THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
SO IF IT'S GONNA BE PLACED IN A PARK OR WHATNOT, WE CAN LOOK AT THE GENERAL AREA BEFORE THAT COMES TO THE GOVERNING BOARD FOR APPROVAL.
IT'S JUST, IT'S JUST, UH, SPELLS OUT THE DETAIL OF THE VETTING PROCESS.
SO ARE WE TALKING CITY PROPERTY, ANYTHING IN THE CITY PROPERTY OR, OR RIGHT OF WAY? YES.
WE WERE ELIMINATING MONUMENTS, WHATEVER CITY PROPERTY, I THOUGHT WE WAS GONNA DEVELOP SOMETHING TO BRING CLOSURE TO THAT AND NOT TURN, GO BACK TO ANOTHER CONVERSATION THAT, THAT IS NOT, UH, I THINK, I BELIEVE THE DIRECTION I WAS GIVEN WAS TO REVISIT THE MONUMENTS MARKERS POLICY.
AND IF THAT WAS THE DIRECTION OF THE BOARD, I DID NOT GET THAT, THAT YOU WANTED TO.
WELL, THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING FOR CLARITY.
YEAH, I'LL, I'LL TRY TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF, OF CLARITY.
SO I THINK WHENEVER THIS CAME UP ORIGINALLY, THE, THE MANAGER HAD GIVEN US A DRAFT TO LOOK AT AND THE BOARD DECIDED THAT NIGHT IF, AND THE CLERK CAN CORRECT ME, I THINK WE HAD DECIDED THAT NIGHT JUST BRING ANYTHING TO US IF ANYBODY WANTS TO MAKE, UH, A RECOMMENDATION OR HAVE SOMETHING.
AND I, I THOUGHT WHAT WE WANTED TO DO HERE WAS TO TRY TO JUST STOP ANYBODY FROM WANTING TO DO ANYTHING COMING BEFORE THE BOARD.
THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE SOME GATE, SOME GATEKEEPERS IN THE MEANTIME BEFORE WE GOT TO THAT POINT.
SO I THINK THAT WAS THE SPIRIT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING, JUDGE.
AND AND THE BOARD CAN CERTAINLY SAY NO TO THIS AND JUST SAY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO ACCEPT ANYTHING ON CITY PROPERTY, WHICH IS VERY EASY AND STRAIGHTFORWARD FOR US AND STAFF IF THAT'S THE DIRECTION WE WANNA GO IN.
AND, AND THAT'S THE DIRECTION I THOUGHT WE WERE GOING IN, THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERING ANYTHING TO GO ON CITY PROPERTY.
I I I, I KNOW ONE OF THE CONCERNS, UM, THAT CAME UP IS THE PRECEDENT THAT'S BEEN SET IN THE PAST.
'CAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A PO WE HAD, WE DON'T HAVE A POLICY CURRENTLY, RIGHT? SO IN THE PAST, THE BEAR, FOR EXAMPLE, THAT'S IN FRONT OF MITCHELL'S HARDWARE, THERE'S SOME OTHER ONES THAT'S SURROUND.
THEY HAD THE ABILITY TO PUT THOSE BEARS UP.
AND NOW IF SOMEONE ASKS TO HAVE ONE, IF OUR STANCE IS NO, THEN THE BUSINESS OR A RESIDENT ACROSS THE STREET CAN SAY, WELL, HOW COME THEY ARE ABLE TO HAVE ONE? AND I'M NOT.
AND THAT'S JUST THE DECISION THAT THE BOARD MADE.
AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOME, THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WE HAVE FOR SURE.
SO I THINK THE MANAGER WAS TRYING TO GIVE SOME CLARITY AROUND THAT AND SOME LEEWAY IN THOSE CERTAIN SITUATIONS.
BUT ARE, ARE THERE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS FOR US TO JUST HAVE A BLANKET POLICY THAT JUST SAYS NOTHING, THERE'S NO ISSUE WITH THAT.
MEANING NOTHING ON PUBLIC PROPERTY OR IN THE RIGHT ORDER? RIGHT.
AND, AND THE BOOK CAN ALWAYS CHANGE.
IT MINDS, THE POLICY IS THE POLICY UNTIL THE BOARD CHANGES THE POLICY.
THE, THE ONE RE I GUESS ONE RECOMMENDATION I WOULD MAKE SINCE WE JUST GOT HANDED THIS TONIGHT, UM, I WOULD RECOMMEND PUTTING THIS ON A FUTURE AGENDA SO IT CAN BE IN THE PACKAGE SO THE PUBLIC CAN HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY IF THEY WANT TO LOOK AT IT AND PROVIDE SOME INPUT THAT WAY, THERE MAY BE SOMETHING THAT WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT.
UM, THAT'S BE MY ONLY RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, WE DID NOT JUST, EXCUSE ME, BUT WE DID NOT JUST RECEIVE THIS TONIGHT.
THE, UM, CITY MANAGER SENT THIS OUT TO US.
WELL, THE PUBLIC HASN'T SEEN THIS.
AND, AND NO, THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M JUST, LET ME EXPLAIN.
THE CITY MANAGER SENT THIS OUT TO US, UM, PRIOR TO TONIGHT'S MEETING.
NOW OF COURSE THE, THE PUBLIC MAY NOT HAVE HAD THE CHANCE.
THEY DEFINITELY HAVE, BUT IT'S NOT OUT THERE FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW.
SO THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA FOR THE PUBLIC TO REVIEW.
BUT I STILL, MY STANCE ON THIS IS THAT WE CAN TWEAK THIS POLICY, WE CAN DO WHATEVER WE WANT TO DO WITH THIS POLICY, BUT I JUST DON'T WANT THIS POLICY TO
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INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO GO ON CITY PROPERTY.THAT'S THE PUBLIC, THAT'S THE CITIZEN'S PROPERTY.
THEN MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE SOMEBODY MAKE A MOTION TONIGHT THAT THE BOARD'S POLICY, THIS BOARD'S POLICY GOING FORWARD IS NO MONUMENT OR, UH, MARKERS, MEMORIAL OR PLAQUE ON PUBLIC PROPERTY.
AND THEN WE COULD PUT THIS TO REST TONIGHT IF YOU'D LIKE TO DO THAT.
DOES ANY OF THE OTHER BOARD MEMBERS WANT TO COMMENT ON THIS OR, I AGREE.
I'M IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S, YOU, YOU, YOU'RE SPENDING TIME COMING IN TO MAINTAIN AND UPKEEP IT AND THEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT OTHER FOLKS WANTING TO COME IN AND DO THE SAME THING.
SO WE NEED TO HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE CITY AND WHAT WE DID.
SO THE BOARD CAN THINK ABOUT A FEW OTHER ITEMS. UM, THE JET THAT SITS AT LAWSON'S CREEK PARK, BASED OFF OF THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT, THAT JET WOULD NOT BE THERE.
THE SHIP HANDLING MACHINE THAT'S SITTING AT LOST CREEK PARK WOULD NOT BE THERE.
FOSTER, ARE THERE ANY OTHER THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONATED TO THE CITY? UM, WOULD THEY NOT BE GRANDFATHERED IN? THEY THEY WOULD BE, BUT I'M SAYING THAT IF WE TAKE THIS POLICY OR THIS STANCE TONIGHT, THEN IF SOMEBODY IN THE FUTURE WANTS TO DONATE SOMETHING TO THE CITY, THEN OUR POLICY IS, IS NO.
WELL, WE, WE CAN REVISE OUR POLICY TO INCLUDE ANYTHING THAT'S CITY RELATED.
ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS COUNCIL BLUFF GREEN, SEVERAL YEARS AGO WHEN THAT WAS, UH, RENOVATED AND THERE'S A, THERE'S A LARGE MARKER OUT THERE COMMEMORATING THAT, THAT LISTS ALL THE SPONSORS ON THAT, THAT'S UNLIKE RICK'S ON A, ON PAPERS IN THE WALKWAY OR ANYTHING.
BUT THOSE ARE SOME GOOD EXAMPLES.
SO YOU'RE REALLY NOT GETTING AWAY FROM THAT IF YOU'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO ADD SOMETHING IN, IT'S EITHER HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO DO IT OR NOT.
WELL, I I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF CITIZENS THAT COME FORTH AND WANT TO PUT MONUMENTS, PLAQUES OR WHATEVER, NOT ANYTHING THAT'S PERTAINING TO ACTUAL THE CITY AS THE MAYOR SAYS, THE PLANE OUT THERE, ANYTHING THAT IT WAS GIVEN OR DONATED TO THE CITY, BUT JUST FOR FUTURE CITIZENS COMING FORTH AND WANTING TO ASK TO HAVE A MONUMENT OR PLAQUE OR SOMETHING INFECTED, THAT'S FINE.
I I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MAKING THAT CONSIDERATION FOR THIS, UM, POLICY.
HOW ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE A STORYBOARD OR A DONOR'S NAMES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I'M THINKING MORE OF THE, THE FISHING TIER, YOU KNOW, WILL THEY BE ABLE TO DO A STORYBOARD GIVEN THE LIST OF THE NAMES OF THE DONORS OF THAT? THAT'S A CITY PROJECT.
SO THE JET WOULD ACTUALLY HAVE BEEN EXCLUDED AS WELL FROM THE POLICY.
ANY COMMENTS ON THE BEARS ON, ON HOW YOU'D LIKE TO, SAME THING WITH THAT.
I MEAN, I, THE CITY'S KNOWN FOR BEARS.
I MEANT THERE'S, THERE'S A MAP THAT PEOPLE GO AROUND THE CITY AND THEY FIND THESE BEARS AND TO SAY NO WHEN SOMEBODY WANTS TO SPEND A FEW THOUSAND DOLLARS OR HAVE ONE OUT FRONT.
I, WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.
I THINK WE SHOULD INCLUDE THE BEARS BECAUSE WITHIN THIS INFORMATION THAT THE CITY MANAGER, UM, GAVE TO US, UM, THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT'S, AND ESPECIALLY FOR THE DOWN THE BEAR THAT THEY WANTED TO PUT, UM, DOWNTOWN THAT WOULD BE WITHIN THE HPC TO MAKE THOSE DETERMINATIONS TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING IS IN COMPLIANCE.
AND A DA AND ORDINANCE WISE, CORRECT.
YEAH, I WOULD SAY THE DRAFT POLICY RIGHT NOW SAYS IT'S, IT'S DELEGATED TO THE CITY MANAGER RATHER THAN THE BOARD.
SO FOR BEARS, I, IT'S JUST TO GIVE MY 2 CENTS, YOU KNOW, KIND OF COMING FROM, UH, A MILITARY PERSPECTIVE AND A INSPECTOR GENERAL PERSPECTIVE, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE A POLICY, EVEN IF IT IS NO, UM, A, A WRITTEN POLICY IS WHAT, WHAT I WOULD SAY, UM, BECAUSE IT GIVES A, UH, STAFF, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO LEAN ON AND GIVE TO PEOPLE AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OUR POLICY.
AND, UH, I THINK INCLUDING THE BEARERS IN THAT POLICY WOULD BE GOOD.
UM, SO I'M, I'M MORE OF THE IDEA THAT, UH, IN INSTEAD OF JUST, UM, PASSING A MOTION TONIGHT AND SAYING, HEY, WE'RE GONNA SAY NO TO EVERYTHING, I'M OKAY WITH THAT, BUT I'D RATHER HAVE SOMETHING WRITTEN TO GIVE THE
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STAFF, UH, TO SAY THAT THAT'S OUR POLICY.AND THEN I THINK WE'D NEED TO DO THAT ANYWAY, UH, FOR THE, UH, FOR THE BEARS AND, AND THAT PROCESS OF, UH, APPROVAL.
SO I'M, I'M MORE OF A PROCESS GUY AND SO, UH, THIS WAS HELPFUL FOR THE PROCESS, EVEN IF THE ANSWER'S GONNA BE NO, JUST MY 2 CENTS.
SO WE CAN GO AHEAD AND PUT THIS TO REST TONIGHT AND PUT THINGS IN PLACE THAT WE CAN HAVE THE BEARS IN AND HAVE A POLICY IN PLACE THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING TO GO BY TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTION MAY COME BEFORE US.
I, I THINK, I THINK, UM, WE CAN DO EVERYTHING THAT EVERYONE HAS SAID.
IF, IF THE MOTION IS, UM, TO, UM, PROHIBIT MONUMENTS, ET CETERA, ON, ON PUBLIC PROPERTY, INCLUDING RIGHT OF WAYS OTHER THAN CITY SPONSORED PROJECTS AND BEARS AND PUT THAT IN WRITING AS A POLICY, UM, RIGHT.
THAT WOULD MEMORIALIZE THE MOTION AND, AND SATISFY EVERYONE'S THINKING, I THINK.
ARE YOU GOOD WITH THAT, MR. ATTORNEY? YES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND SO FOR THE LAST FEW YEARS WE HAVE HAD AN AUDIT COMMITTEE CONSISTING OF AT LEAST THREE ALDERMAN.
LAST YEAR WE HAD ALDERMAN, ROYAL ALDERMAN BRISSON, AND THE MAYOR THAT SERVED ON THAT COMMITTEE.
SO LIKE TO SEE IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THIS YEAR'S COMMITTEE.
WHAT DOES IT ENTAIL? AGAIN, I I DON'T EVEN REMEMBER.
IT, IT, IT ENTAILS OF, UH, OF ATTENDING AT LEAST TWO OR THREE MEETINGS DURING THE AUDIT PROCESS.
UH, UH, AND IT'S, IT'S PAINLESS, BUT, BUT YOU GET TO SIT THROUGH, UH, SOME, SOME PRESENTATIONS BY OUR AUDITOR AND LISTENING TO THE FINANCE DIRECTOR AND FINANCE STAFF GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS.
AND WHEN IS THIS SCHEDULED? UH, NO MEETINGS HAVE BEEN SCHEDULED YET, BUT THERE WILL PROBABLY BE AT LEAST TWO OR THREE THAT WILL OCCUR BEFORE THE AUDIT IS SUBMITTED TO THE STATE.
WELL, THERE'S THIS, THERE'S ACTUALLY THREE MEETINGS.
ONE WILL BE, WELL, ONE CAN BE DONE WITH ZOOM, AND THAT WILL BE THE INITIAL MEETING, THE INTRODUCTION MEETING.
AND THAT SHOULD BE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS.
AND THEN THE SECOND ONE WILL BE ABOUT MIDWAY THROUGH THE AUDIT, THEY'LL GIVE AN UPDATE.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS RIGHT BEFORE THEY PRESENT TO THE BOARD, WHICH WILL BE PROBABLY IN NOVEMBER, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER TIMEFRAME.
BUT I'M WILLING TO SHARE THE PAIN, UM, AND, AND, AND VOLUNTEER TO SIT, YOU KNOW, SIT ON THE AUDIT COMMITTEE IF, UH, LORD, THANK YOU.
DOES ANYONE ELSE? I'M ALREADY, I'VE HAD TWO YEARS WORTH, THANK YOU.
UM, YOU CAN, YOU CAN ADD ME TO THE LIST.
IF I CAN MAKE IT, I'LL CERTAINLY TRY TO MAKE IT AND YOU MAY ADD ME ALSO.
THAT'S ALL THE ALT TONIGHT, SIR.
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GO TO NEW BUSINESS.ALDERMAN ROYAL, NOTHING TONIGHT.
I GOT A QUESTION FOR THE CITY ATTORNEY.
I'VE RECEIVED AN EMAIL, UM, AND ACTUALLY SIGNED, I SIGNED BY SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT WAS REQUESTING, UM, SOME INFORMATION ABOUT BARS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
THEIR CONCERN IS THAT WE HAD ANOTHER STORE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA THAT IS CLOSING.
I DON'T HAVE A CLUE WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT THERE'S A STORE CLOSING AND THAT'S, THEY'RE UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT, UH, A BAR IS GOING TO PURCHASE IT AND GO IN THERE.
AND THEIR CONCERN IS THE NUMBER OF BARS THAT ARE IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
CAN WE OR CAN WE NOT, UM, REGULATE THE NUMBER OF BARS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, RIGHT? YES, SIR.
UM, THAT QUESTION HAS COME UP A LOT IN THE LAST FEW YEARS.
UM, IN OUR STATE WE HAVE A COMPREHENSIVE STATUTE WHERE THE STATE REGULATES THE SALE OF ALCOHOL.
AND WHEN YOU HAVE SUCH A STATUTE, IT PREEMPTS THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT FROM REGULATING ALCOHOL IN ANY WAY, ACTUALLY INCLUDING ZONING.
THE, THE, THE STATE ALCOHOL STATUTE SAYS THAT THE STATE MUST CONSIDER OUR ZONING, BUT THEY CAN OVERRIDE IT IF THEY WANT.
UM, SO THE SHORT ANSWER IS NO.
UM, UM, THE STATE CONTROLS THAT,
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UM, I HAVE NOTICED IN THE LAST 10 YEARS, UM, I, I'VE NOT SEEN A SITUATION WHERE THE STATE HAS NOT HONORED THE ZONING REGULATION, UM, EVEN THOUGH THEY HAVE THE ABILITY TO, TO IGNORE IT.UM, BUT BEYOND THE ZONING, UM, WE HAVE NO AUTHORITY TO REGULATE.
SO A NEW, A NEW BAR THAT WANTS TO OPEN UP, THEY HAVE TO HAVE A A LE INSPECTION? YES, SIR.
HAVE TO HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT INSPECTION.
AND MAYBE A BUILDING, ALL THOSE THINGS.
ALL, ALL THE PERMITS FOR A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS PLUS THE A BC PERMIT.
UH, I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE HAD, I DIDN'T REALLY THINK THAT WE HAD THAT MANY BARS IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA.
I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF RESTAURANTS THAT SERVE ALCOHOL, RIGHT, SURE.
BUT JUST STRAIGHT BARS AND YEAH, I'M NOT KIND OF MYSELF, I'M NOT SURE EITHER.
C CERTAINLY MORE MORE ENTERTAINMENT ACTIVITIES, RESTAURANTS AND BARS.
BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE CANNOT REGULATE IT.
I HAVE NOTHING ELSE, OR MCKENZIE.
UM, MR. FOSTER, UH, WE SPOKE ABOUT, UM, IT'S A POSSIBILITY THAT WE MIGHT, WELL, I'M NOT QUITE SURE, UH, THAT YOU, THE FAMILY DOLLAR INC.
IS CLOSING DOWN OUT AROUND THE COUNTRY.
AND, UM, WHAT DO YOU THINK LIKELY WITH THE ONE THAT WE HAVE HERE ON THIS BOULEVARD, BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH A BROTHER AND A SISTER STORE, THE DOLLAR TREE IN THE FAMILY DOLLAR, IS IT, COULD YOU EXPLAIN ANY OF THAT, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR THEM CLOSING AND WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD OR WE, WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ON, ON THAT STORE, BUT WE CAN CERTAINLY CHECK, CHECK INTO THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF 'EM ARE CLOSING AND THE RITE AIDS ARE CLOSING UP OUT THROUGH THE COUNTRY, AND I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT DIRECTION ARE THEY HEADED, ARE THEY HEADED THIS DIRECTION HERE, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, IF YOU CAN KEEP US POSTED ON THAT, I APPRECIATE IT.
WE CAN DO SOME RESEARCH ON THAT.
IS THAT ALL, SIR? YES, YES SIR.
UM, MR. HUGHES, UM, I'M GONNA DIRECT THIS TO YOU.
UM, I'VE GOTTEN NUMEROUS CALLS, UM, CITIZENS, UM, GOT A LITTLE ALARMED BECAUSE OF THE RAIN THAT WE HAD, UH, THIS PAST WEEKEND.
AND, UM, AT WHAT POINT ARE, I WISH GEORGE WOULD'VE BEEN HERE TONIGHT, BUT, UM, AT WHAT POINT ARE THE CITY AT FOR AS MAINTENANCE ON THE STREETS? THE, UM, WHAT DO YOU CALL 'EM? THE DRAIN PIPES? MM-HMM.
THE ONES WITH THE REAL HEAVY, UH, TOPS ON THEM.
YOU KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT? YES, MA'AM.
AND THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF STRAW LEAVES, TRASH AND STUFF IS BLOCKING THOSE DRAINS AND IT'S CAUSING A PROBLEM FOR THE WATER TO FLOW.
UM, SO I DIDN'T KNOW, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THERE'S PROBABLY SOMETHING ALL OVER THE CITY, UM, AT WHAT POINT OR PUBLIC WORKS OR MR. AVERY SMITH, THEY'RE LOOKING INTO THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE ARE INTO HURRICANE SEASON, THEY STARTED EARLY THIS YEAR, UM, AND A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE GETTING A LITTLE BIT ANTSY AND UPSET AND I I ABOUT THE WATER CONDITIONS WITHIN THEIR COMMUNITIES.
AND SO I DID HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH GEORGE ABOUT THIS.
UH, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT THE STORMWATER CREW AND PUBLIC WORK STAFF HAVE LOOKED AT ON A REGULAR BASIS.
WHENEVER THEY'RE DRIVING AROUND, IF THEY SEE, UH, A CLOGGED AREA, THEY CLEAN THAT OUT.
THIS PAST WEEKEND AND IN CERTAIN AREAS OF THE TOWN WE HAD FOR THE FIRST RAIN UP AN INCH AND A HALF OF RAIN.
AND FOR THE, THE ONE YESTERDAY BETWEEN AN INCH AND A HALF RAIN, THERE WAS ALSO A LOT OF WIND THIS PAST WEEKEND.
AND SO THAT HAS A TENDENCY TO PUT PINE STRAW AND THINGS LIKE THAT RIGHT IN, IN THAT DRAIN GRATE.
AND WE ACTUALLY, I THINK SOME OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANT FLOODING WE SAW IN ANY ONE AREA WAS HERE AT THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE, BROUGHT ON THE SOUTH FRONT STREET IN A PIECE OF PLASTIC.
IT HAD BEEN, UH, THE WIND HAD BLOWN THAT OVER A DRAIN GR AND CREATED ALL OF THAT, THAT FLOODING IN THAT GENERAL AREA.
SO THE CREWS ARE WORKING ON THAT.
UM, I HAD TWO CALLS FROM, UM, SOUTH CAROLINA AVENUE AND, UH, FROM SUNNYSIDE, I, UH, SOUTH CAROLINA AVENUE AND BEACH STREET.
UM, THAT WAS ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE THEY WERE SAYING THAT THEY COULD REALLY SEE THE WATER, UM, THE BLOCKAGE OVER THERE.
SO IF PUBLIC WORKS, CAN SOMEBODY GO OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT SOUTH CAROLINA AVENUE? UM, I WOULD APPRECIATE THAT.
UM, THE OTHER THING I HAD WAS, UM, OH YEAH.
SO, UM, AGAIN, MR. HUGHES
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IT, AT WHAT LENGTHS WILL, WHAT TIMEFRAME ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR COMING BACK BEFORE THIS BOARD TO DISCUSS MORE IN DETAIL ABOUT THE ELECTRIC RATES AND THE RIDERS? BECAUSE I'M GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS FROM PEOPLE, THEY'RE WANTING TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.THEY KNOW ABOUT THE, THE RATE INCREASE, WHICH WAS AFFECTED JULY ONE.
BUT THEY'RE WANTING TO KNOW WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITH, UM, THE RIDERS.
HOW, HOW WILL THEY BE AFFECTED WITH THE RIDERS WHEN, SO DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHEN THIS BOARD, WHEN WE NEED TO COME BACK AND MEET AND FURTHER DISCUSS THAT? SO THIS BOARD DID ADOPT A 6% INCREASE.
NOW WE WILL BE COMING BACK TO THE BOARD PROBABLY IN THE FORM OF A WORKSHOP.
UH, IT COULD BE AT SOME POINT IN, IN AUGUST OR THE 1ST OF SEPTEMBER.
WHEN WE DO THIS, ONCE WE HEAR FROM ELECTRIC CITIES, IF WE HAVE ANOTHER PASS ON FROM, UH, FROM 2023, I BELIEVE FROM, FROM DUKE ENERGY.
SO THAT COULD BE A, A RIDER AND WE'LL DISCUSS HOW WE'RE PROPOSING TO PASS THAT RIDER ALONG TO THE CUSTOMER AT THAT TIME.
I JUST WANT THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO HEAR.
ALDERMAN BRISSON, NOTHING TO TONIGHT, SIR.
UM, THE ONLY THING I HAVE, I'D BE IN TROUBLE IF I DIDN'T, ALTHOUGH I KNOW SHE'S NOT WATCHING IS MY WIFE'S BIRTHDAY.
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UH, DO WE NEED A CLOSED SESSION? YES, SIR.I, THE CLOSED SESSION TOOK 1 43 13 11 A THREE TO MAINTAIN OUR ATTORNEY CLIENT PRIVILEGE AND PURSUANT TO 1 43 13 11 A FIVE TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY.
MOTION IS SECOND ENCLO SESSION.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE OPPOSED WE'RE A CLOSED SESSION.
COURT, UM, COURT AND I HAVE MISSED ATION.
DO YOU, ON THE PUBLIC HEARING ISSUE THE ANNEXATION THAT WAS GOING TONIGHT'S AGAIN, MR. ATTORNEY, YOU WANNA YES.
MEMBERS THE BOARD, UM, ON THE AGENDA EARLIER WAS THE, UM, THE PUBLIC HEARING THAT WAS SCHEDULED FOR TONIGHT.
UM, IT TURNS OUT THE CLERK RE REVIEWED THE RECORD AND THAT WAS PROPERLY NOTICED FOR TONIGHT.
UM, THOSE NOTICES RUN SEVERAL HUNDRED DOLLARS, UM, A COUPLE HUNDRED AT LEAST.
AND, UM, THE REASON I INTERRUPTED YOU DURING THAT WAS TO TRY TO SAVE THAT FEW HUNDRED DOLLARS IF THE BOARD WANTED TO, YOU CAN OPEN THAT PUBLIC HEARING AND CONTINUE IT TO THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THAT WILL AVOID A FURTHER NOTICE BEING PUBLISHED.
UM, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS NO ONE IN THE AUDIENCE TONIGHT TO COME SPEAK ON THAT, SO I DON'T THINK ANYBODY WOULD BE PUT OUT OR OFFENDED THAT, UM, THEY MISSED THEIR CHANCE TO SPEAK.
YOU CAN LEAVE THINGS THE WAY THEY ARE, UM, OR SOMEBODY CAN MAKE A MOTION TO RESCIND THE EARLIER MOTION TO PULL THAT OFF THE AGENDA, OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING THAN A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE PUBLIC HEARING TO NEXT MEETING.
AND JUST FOR CLARITY, WE DON'T KNOW THAT IT'LL BE READY FOR THE NEXT MEETING.
TRYING TO GET A SURVEY AND YOU CAN KEEP, YOU CAN KEEP CONTINUING IT.
UM, YEAH, THEY, THE, THE, THE, THE DEVELOPER NEEDS A SURVEY, SO IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO YOU.
I, I, I, I'LL JUST STATE THIS, I APPRECIATE US WANTING TO LOOK AFTER EVERY DOLLAR, BUT FOR THE POTENTIAL NEGATIVE BLOW BACK FROM COMING OUT OF A CLOSED SESSION TO DO THIS.
I PERSONALLY DON'T THINK IT'S WORTH IT.
WE'VE ALREADY MADE THE MOTION AND CO PULL IT COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND.
I JUST THINK WE NEED TO REISSUE IT LIKE WE DO IT, BUT THAT'S THE BOARD'S DECISION AND, AND THE FACT THAT THEY MAY NOT BE READY NEXT MEETING.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY DIFFERENT OPINIONS? OKAY.
ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S IT, MAYOR.
IF NOT, I ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.