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ITEM OF DISCUSSING, UM, THE WALT BELLAMY PROJECT.[V. Reading of Guiding Principles and Mission]
WELL, YOU ARE JUST IN TIME FOR US TO GO THROUGH OUR, UH, GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND OUR MISSION STATEMENT.SO I'M GONNA ASK, LET'S SEE, CAN WE, SINCE YOU JUST GOT IN, I'M GONNA ASK US TO START AT MR. DILLA HUNT'S SIDE.
CAN YOU GO THROUGH OUR, IN THE MEETING? SOMETHING MAYBE NOT YOUR BLANK.
SECOND ONE, RESPECT OTHERS OPINIONS.
LISTEN TO BILL CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION AND PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
AND, UM, I'M ALSO GONNA GET YOU, I'M GONNA GET, UH, COMMISSIONER ROY, DO YOU HAVE THE, THE MISSION STATEMENT IN FRONT OF YOU AS WELL? YES, I DO.
CAN YOU READ THAT FOR US? I WILL.
THE NEWMAN REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION LEADING THE WAY FOR COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT BY DIRECTLY ADDRESSING COMMUNITY NEEDS IN THE VITAL AREAS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO AN ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND PUBLICLY DRIVEN PROCESS.
THANK YOU FOR ADDING THE MISSION.
AND WE'VE READ OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
[VI. Public Comment]
ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS A TIME OF PUBLIC COMMENT.UM, MEMBERS IN THE PUBLIC ARE INVITED TO MAKE A COMMENT WITH A LIMIT OF THREE MINUTES.
ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK TONIGHT? AND IF YOU WOULD, STATE YOUR NAME, REVEREND ET AMP.
THE MIC DOWN FOR IF YOU WOULD, IF YOU CAN DON'T, DON'T CLOCK ME YET, BECAUSE I WAS SAYING NOTHING.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE HAVE STRUGGLE.
I, I, I JUST LIKE TO LET THE ONES THAT DON'T KNOW.
'CAUSE IT'S 'CAUSE I'M REAL OLD.
LET Y'ALL KNOW THAT HOW, HOW POPULAR DUFFY FEEL WAS.
AND I KNOW BECAUSE I WAS LIVING AND STILL LIVING AND WE HAD SOME OF EVERYTHING IN VILLE.
WE, WE HAD CAFES, WE HAD BLACK, UH, A BEAUTY SCHOOL HAD CAB DRIVERS.
WE HAD, WE HAD NOT REPUBLICS, WE HAD LAWYERS.
AND WE HAD, WE REALLY, REALLY HAD EVERYTHING GOING.
BUT SO SOME REASON, ANOTHER, IT SEEMED LIKE THEY PUT A STICK, A STIGMA ON TOP FIELD.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, I WANNA LET Y'ALL KNOW WHEN I WAS GOING TO SCHOOL, I HAD CLASSMATES THAT LIVED DOWNTOWN AND AFTER SCHOOL WE WOULD GO DOWNTOWN TO THE HOUSE, ESPECIALLY IN THE, THOSE STANDARDS BECAUSE I WAS CLASSMATES TO THEM.
NOT THE WHITE ONE, THE BLACK ONES.
AND I'M TELLING YOU THAT EVERYBODY WAS, WAS, HAD THINGS GOING, BUT IT SEEMED TO ME LIKE PEOPLE TAKING EVERYTHING FROM US FOR SOME REASON OR ANOTHER.
AND I WANT Y'ALL TO KNOW THAT IF NECESSARY AND WE, THEY DO THINGS AND EXCLUDE US.
WE ALWAYS CAME TO BOARD MEETING AT THINGS BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GOING 70 YEARS DOWN, DOWN TO BOARD MEETING AT THINGS.
AND I, AND SOMETIMES I WANT Y'ALL TO JUST CONSIDER US.
SOMETIMES WHEN YOU START PUTTING PEOPLE ON BOARD AND THINGS, PEOPLE THAT NEVER LIVE HERE, I WOULD, I WOULD ASK SOMETIMES TO CONSIDER US AND THINK ABOUT SOME OF US, BECAUSE ALL US IS NOT NORMAL.
BUT SOMETIMES WE HAVE BE SIT TOO QUIET.
BUT I ALWAYS BE KIND OF ONE OF THE NOISY ONES.
AND SO I WANT Y'ALL TO THINK ABOUT US WHEN, WHATEVER, GET PUT SOMEBODY BOARD.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU FOR THAT.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE ONLY, UH, PUBLIC COMMENT WE HAVE TONIGHT.
SO WE'LL MOVE INTO YES, YOU MAY.
UH, AND, UH, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THOSE
AND I JUST, UH, WANTED TO SAY I ATTENDED THE LAST MEETING OF THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY, UH, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE DOING OUTREACH FROM
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THIS PARTICULAR COMMISSION.UM, AND IT WAS VERY ENTHRALLED WITH THE, THE OUTREACH AND THEIR, UH, DEDICATION TO EXPANDING, UM, AT THEIR REACH AND GETTING THEIR MEMBERSHIPS UP.
SO THE NEXT MEETING ON OCTOBER 15TH, I PLAN TO JOIN Y'ALL AGAIN.
I JUST WANTED TO SAY I LOVE YOUR MISSION.
I LOVE YOUR VISION, AND DEFINITELY WE UNDERSTAND AND EMPATHIZE WITH WHAT YOU JUST SAID.
UH, CHAIRMAN, WHILE THE, WHILE THE DOOR HAS BEEN OPEN, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT AS WELL.
AND THANK YOU MOTHER SAMPSON FOR COMING AND SHARING YOUR SENTIMENTS.
WE HAD A CONVERSATION EARLIER ABOUT DUFFY FIELD AND ABOUT HOMEOWNERS, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU MENTIONED, UH, BROTHER WALLACE.
SOME OF THE GROUPS OR THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY.
MS. HAMPSON NOT ONLY BELONGS TO THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY, BUT SHE IS PRESENT AT THE DUFFY FIELD RESIDENCE COUNCIL.
THE PHOENIX GROUP, THE BLOCK CAPTAINS.
AND THEY HAVE ALL BEEN INVITED TO BE A PART OF OUR MEETINGS.
AND JUST AS SHE ATTENDS ALL OF THOSE MEETINGS, WE NEED TO START ATTENDING SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS ALSO, BECAUSE WE SIT HERE AND THEY DO SOME GREAT WORK.
AND IF WE REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITY, THEN THOSE ARE FOUR GROUPS AND FOUR MEETINGS THAT WE DEFINITELY NEED TO BE IN ATTENDANCE OF SO THAT THEY COULD COME HERE, REPORT TO US, WE NEED TO GO THERE, REPORT TO THEM.
AND SO THAT IT COULD BE A COHESIVENESS AND WE COULD WORK IN CONCERT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE MAKING INFORMED DECISIONS ON WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE, IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
AND ALSO SO THAT WE COULD PARTNERSHIP WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE PROVIDING THEM WITH WHAT THEY NEED TO HELP MAKE THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA A COMPLETE AREA.
AND THANK YOU ALL ONCE AGAIN, MS. EBELL.
AND IF I DON'T SEE YOU ANYMORE, I SEE YOU AT THE HOUSE.
AND COMMISSIONER WALLACE, AND I'LL BE REMISS ONE MINUTE, Y'ALL WON'T HEAR ME AGAIN UNTIL I REPORT, BUT, UM, I, I WOULD BE REMISS IF I DIDN'T SAY INNOVATION IS A STATE OF MIND.
AND I WILL SAY THAT DUFFY FIELD AND THE ENTITIES THAT YOU'RE REPRESENTATIVE OF DO NOT SIT AND WAIT FOR SOMEBODY TO COME GIVE YOU SOMETHING.
WHEN I WAS IN THAT MEETING, I WAS JUST TRYING, I'M A, I'M AN EDUCATOR BY HEART.
Y'ALL HAD THE YOUNG FOLKS IN THERE.
I MEAN, THEY IN THERE TALKING ABOUT EXPANDING THEIR REACH WITH INSTAGRAM FLYERS, FACEBOOK LIVE, TIKTOK, THE PHONE DIRECTORY.
THEY'RE GOING TO GET INVOLVED WITH CHRISTMAS PARADE WITH MOM.
I MEAN, THEY WERE GOING IN, THEY WERE THE YOUNG FOLKS.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE PASSING THE TORCH.
SO JUST REMEMBER, INNOVATION IS A STATE OF MIND.
YOU JUST LET ME KNOW HOW WE CAN HELP YOU IN THE FUTURE.
AND I WILL, UM, AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER MORGAN.
WE DO APPRECIATE YOU COMING TO OUR MEETING.
AND, AND I APPRECIATE YOU, UM, SHARING THAT INFORMATION AS WELL.
[VII. Old Business]
TO SOME OLD BUSINESS.AND SINCE WE ADDED THE, UM, WALT BELLAMY BACK TO, INTO THE AGENDA, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU A QUICK, UM, UPDATE ON THAT.
THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS REQUESTED AN EXTENSION, UH, JUST A LITTLE EXTENSION OF TIME BEFORE THEY SIGN THE AGREEMENT AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT PURCHASE.
AND I BELIEVE THE DATE THAT THEY'VE GIVEN US IS NOVEMBER 15TH.
AND I BELIEVE WE NEED TO HAVE A, A RESOLUTION THAT THAT'S OKAY.
IS THAT CORRECT, COUNSELOR? YES, MA'AM.
UM, PER THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT AND THE TERMS THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY APPROVED, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAD 30 DAYS FROM THE APPROVAL OF THE SALE BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO CLOSE ON THE PROPERTY.
THAT MEANS PAY THE MONEY AND RECORD THE DEED.
UM, THEY ARE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAKING SURE THAT THEY HAVE EVERYTHING THAT THEY NEED AND HAVE THEIR DUCKS IN THE ROW AND JUST NEED A BIT MORE TIME.
UM, THERE'S SOME VACATIONS SCHEDULED IN THERE AS WELL.
UM, SO THAT IS THE, THE REASON FOR THE NOVEMBER 15TH DATE.
AND THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES COUNSEL HAS ASSURED ME THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS ABLE TO CLOSE ON OR BEFORE THAT DATE.
UM, YOUR PURCHASE AGREEMENT DOES ALLOW YOU ALL TO, UM, EXTEND THE CLOSING DATE BY A WRITTEN DOCUMENT AGREEABLE BY BOTH OF THE PARTIES.
AND I THINK THE VERSION THAT HAS BEEN FURNISHED TO YOU HAS ALREADY BEEN SIGNED BY THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE NEW NEWBORN HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND THAT WAS SENT OUT, UM, VIA EMAIL, UM, TO EVERYONE TODAY.
SO IT IS REALLY JUST ADDING A FEW DAYS ONTO THE, THE CLOSING DOCUMENTS.
BUT I BELIEVE WE WILL NEED A RESOLUTION BY THE COMMISSION FOR THAT TO MOVE FORWARD.
AND I THINK THE RESOLUTION HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN YOUR PHYSICAL PACKET TONIGHT.
SO I MEAN, I I GUESS WE NEED A MOTION FROM THE COMMISSION TO PASS THE RESOLUTION.
SO YOU MAY ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION AGREEMENT
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WITH THE NEIGHBOR HOUSING AUTHORITY.AND THIS IS ENOUGH TIME SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN.
DO WE NEED TO GIVE ANY MORE EXTRA TIME OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT TIL YOU NEVER KNOW WHAT THE UNEXPECTED YEAH.
SO WE DON'T HAVE TO DO THIS AGAIN.
I MEAN, IT'S DO WE NEED TO GO OUT AN EXTRA MONTH TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET EVERYTHING IN ORDER? IN MY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE HOUSING AUTHOR'S ATTORNEY, THIS IS ENOUGH TIME FOR THEM TO BE ABLE TO MEET ALL THEIR OBLIGATIONS.
AND WITH, WITH THE FACTS THAT WE HAVE IT, WHEN ATTORNEY SAYS, I'M NOT GONNA SEE THE WORD.
I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE, UH, EXTENSION AND THE RESOLUTION.
AND I HEARD A SECRET SECOND OVER THERE.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
ANY MORE DISCUSSION REQUIRED ON THAT? IS EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? THANK YOU FOR ADDING THAT IN.
UM, IF THERE'S NO MORE DISCUSSION, THEN I'M GONNA, CAN WE DO ALL IN FAVOR OR DO WE NEED TO DO A ROLL CALL? OKAY.
AND ALL OPPOSED, UH, SOUNDS LIKE THE MOTION CARRIES THAT THAT RESOLUTION WILL PASS.
THAT WE WILL GIVE THEM AN EXTENSION FOR, UM, THE PURCHASE AGREEMENT.
I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE HOUSING GOING TO PURCHASING THAT PROPERTY.
AND I'M THINKING THAT WE HAD A DECISION TO BE MADE IN ORDER TO SEE WHAT THEY'RE GONNA PURCHASE IN MORE PROPERTIES.
I THINK THAT DISCUSSED IN THE LAST MEETING, UM, THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY WOULD PURCHASE MORE PROPERTIES.
AND WE GONNA CONSTRUCT WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO SEE WHERE AN INTEREST IN BUYING SOME MORE PROPERTIES.
I BELIEVE THAT IS GONNA BE SOMETHING THAT WE MAY, WE MAY BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT A NEW BUSINESS BUSINESS, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS PART OF THIS ACTUALLY.
UH, WE, THE, THE WEST, UH, THE WEST A STREET PROJECT, UH, UPDATE.
WHICH COMMISSIONER PARAGUAY IS ABOUT TO DELIVER.
WE'LL ACTUALLY TOUCH ON THAT SUBJECT.
WE, WE WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR COMMENTS, UH, AFTER YOUR PRESENTATION.
MS. COMMISSIONER DI HUNT? IT WAS WEST A STREET THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT ANY PROJECT OKAY.
THAT THEY HAVE AN AUTHORITY AGAINST IN BUYING BEFORE THEY GET BILL ANY I SEE.
SO THE WEST A STREET PROJECT, WE, UM, FEW OF US COMMISSIONERS MET A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
UM, WE DID MEET MR. DILLA HUNT AND MS. WALKER AND MYSELF, UH, ALONG WITH ZB, UH, MET AND, UH, TOWARD THE WEST STREET PROPERTY.
UH, TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF THINGS, MAINLY THAT WE CANNOT DO ANYTHING 'CAUSE WE STILL DON'T HAVE AN ACCURATE SURVEY OF THE PROPERTY, WHICH IS HOLDING THINGS UP A BIT.
UH, BUT WE HAD, WE HAD SOME, SOME WIDE REACHING DISCUSSIONS DURING OUR MEETING.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT, THAT CAME OUT OF THAT IS THAT WE, WE WOULD LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THIS COMMISSION THAT WE DIRECT, UH, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO CONTACT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO HAVE THEM COMMIT SOME INTEREST OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT, TO, UH, BEING OUR PARTNER ON THE HOUSING PROJECT THAT WE'RE PROPOSING, UH, ON WEST A STREET SO THAT WE HAVE AN ANSWER TO OUR END GAME.
IF WE ARE TO BUILD SOME HOUSING THERE, WE KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE AND HOW IT'S GONNA BE UTILIZED.
AND THAT IS, UH, SOMETHING THAT WE ARE, HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS WHEN, WHEN WE WERE TO GET, IF WE EVER GET IN THE HOUSING BUSINESS, IS THAT WE KNOW WHEN WE START WHAT THE END IS, UH, WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE'RE BASICALLY NOT A SALES ORGANIZATION THAT'S RIGHT.
AND CAPABLE OF HANDLING, UH, RETAIL SALES.
AND WITH THE A STREET PROPERTY, THE WAY IT'S SITUATED AND, AND ITS LOCATION, WE FELT THAT THAT WOULD BE A VERY GOOD PROJECT AND LOCATION FOR US TO PARTNER WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, FOR THAT NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND SO THAT'S, THAT'S BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE RIGHT NOW.
WE HAVE, WE HAVE ALSO RUN INTO SOME OTHER INTERESTING THINGS, UH, THAT WAS BROUGHT UP TO US AT, AT THAT MEETING.
AND THAT IS THE, UH, INTRODUCTION TO US FOR THE FIRST TIME OF CONSERVATION OVERLAYS IN THAT AREA THAT HAVE DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS
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FOR BUILDING STRUCTURES ON THEM THAN IN THE ZONING ORDINANCES THAT EXIST.AND THERE'S, IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THERE EXISTS TWO OVERLAYS, THE DRY BOROUGH OVERLAY AND THE LAWSON CREEK OVERLAY.
AND I HAVE MAPS OF THOSE IF, IF Y'ALL WOULD LIKE TO SEE HOW THEY IMPACT US.
AND NOT ONLY THAT, BUT IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WE HAVE THE BROAD STREET CARD CORRIDOR OVERLAY, WHICH CONTROLS ACTIVITY THERE AS WELL AS THE FIRST AVENUE, UH, FIRST STREET, UH, OVERLAY.
BUT IT, IT'S COME INTERESTING BECAUSE IT, I'LL PASS THIS AROUND.
THAT'S, THIS IS THE LAWSON CREEK OVERLAY AND THIS IS THE DR.
DRY BOROUGH OVERLAY THAT TAKES IN THE WEST STREET PROJECT.
NOW WHAT THESE NEIGHBORHOODS DO IS THEY SET UP, UH, DESIGN STANDARDS FOR ANY NEW HOUSING BUILT WITHIN THESE CONSERVATION AREAS AND I BELIEVE DRIVE BOROUGH.
ONE OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WOULD, UM, AFFECT OUR DEVELOPMENT, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ON WEST A STREET IS THE NUMBER OF HOUSES BECAUSE OF THE SETBACKS ON THE PROPERTIES.
WELL, THE REALITY IS THAT THE SETBACKS ARE THE SAME AS THEY ARE IN THE, THE SIDELINE SETBACKS ARE THE SAME AS THEY ARE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO THE FIVE FOOT SIDELINE SETBACKS.
WHAT WHAT DOES COME INTO PLAY IS THAT, UH, THEY HAVE TO BE BUILT ON A CRAWL BASE AND HAVE AT LEAST 18 INCHES, UH, OF EXPOSED MASONRY CURTAIN WALL EXPOSED AT THE COMPLETION OF THE HOUSE.
IT DOES IMPACT AFFORDABILITY AND THE COST TO CONSTRUCT THE HOUSES SIGNIFICANTLY.
AND THE OTHER INTERESTING THING IS THAT SAME, SAME CRITERIA THAT IS, UH, IN THE LAWSON CREEK DEAL WHERE WE BUILT HOUSES ON SLABS RECENTLY.
SO, AND, UM, ALSO THAT, UH, ROOF PITCHES ARE, UH, CONTROLLED IN THESE AREAS AND THAT REQUIRE A MINIMUM OF A SIX 12 ROOF PITCH ON ANY NEW CONSTRUCTION.
SO ALL THESE THINGS WE HAVE TO KIND OF LOOK AT AND AS WE GO FORWARD AND, UH, REASSESS OUR HOUSING SELECTIONS AND OUR HOUSING, UH, PROFILES THAT WE'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO BUILD BASED ON THESE OVERLAYS THAT WE JUST DISCOVERED.
SO, SO WHEN WE PUT PROPERTY OUT THERE FOR SOMEONE TO BID ON TO THE, TO BILL, WHAT WE WANT THOSE, THAT INFORMATION NEED TO BE SHARED WITH THE CONTRACTOR, UH, WITH THE PERSON THAT'S BID ON THE PROPERTY TO DO THE PROJECT.
I MEAN, THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE DONE.
AND LIKE I SAY, THIS IS, WE, WE KIND OF JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT IT.
AND SO WE'RE HAVING TO, TO RE-LOOK WHAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING ON, ON A STREET.
UH, BECAUSE IT DOES FALL IN THE DRY BOROUGH, UH, CONSERVATION AREA.
SO, BUT AGAIN, THE MAIN THING AND 'CAUSE ALL THAT WE CAN DEAL WITH, THE MAIN THING IS THAT, THAT WE WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND THAT WE, UH, DIRECT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO CONTACT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO SEE IF THEY ARE INTERESTED IN PARTNERING WITH US, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON WAL BELLAMY STREET, UH, ON THE A STREET PROJECT.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DIRECT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO CONTACT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UH, ABOUT THEIR INTEREST IN PARTNERING ON WITH US ON THAT PROJECT.
I DON'T THINK WE NEED A MOTION FOR THAT.
AND I WANNA MAKE SURE MR. DILL HUNT THAT IS THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT, WAS TO GET THEM INVOLVED IN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTIES.
IS THAT WHAT YOU WERE REFERENCING FOR A STREET? EXACTLY.
AS MATTER OF FACT, WHILE HE'S, UH, GETTING, UH, PERMISSION FROM THE BOARD, FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, LET'S DO A BROAD REQUEST PER SE FOR ANY HOUSES THAT ARE NOT SOLD, SEE THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR INTEREST THAT THEY
SO WE CAN GO FROM WEST EIGHTH STREET TO SECOND AVENUE TO ANYWHERE WE MAY WANT GO OPEN UP THE CONVERSATION FOR YES.
A A LOT OF THE DEVELOPMENT THAT YES.
MADAM CHAIRMAN, I, I, I LIKE THE, THE REQUEST, THE IDEA, UH, I'M STILL MYSELF STILL CONCERNED
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THAT WE NEED TO GO INTO HOMES BEING BOUGHT.I MEAN, WE, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW THE HOUSING AUTHORITY NEED HOMES TO EVENTUALLY TO GET PEOPLE OUT OF THE, OUT OF THE, THE PUBLIC HOUSING AND DO SOME THING.
BUT I STILL THINK WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE STAY FOCUSED ON HOMES THAT ARE BEING PURCHASED.
I DON'T WANNA GET AWAY FROM THAT.
I DON'T WANNA GET AWAY FROM HOME OWNERSHIP.
MAY I ASK A QUESTION? PLEASE? OKAY.
WOULD IT BE IN THE SCOPE OF THIS COMMISSION TO EITHER SUPPORT SPEARHEAD OR BE A PART OF A SEMINAR THAT WOULD INTRODUCE, UM, HOW SOMEONE WOULD GO ABOUT SEEING WHAT THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR AS A HOMEOWNER? UM, ANY KIND OF SEMINAR, ANY KIND OF, UM, MEETING THAT WE COULD HAVE TO WHERE EITHER WE WOULD PARTNERSHIP WITH ONE OF THE GROUPS THAT WE MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, AND DO IT SPECIFICALLY FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
UM, A LOT OF THOSE THAT WERE, UH, THAT WOULD BE LIVING IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA HAVE NOT RESEARCHED TO SEE IF THEY QUALIFY OR WHAT THEY WOULD QUALIFY FOR.
I MEAN, THAT IS VERY VALUABLE INFORMATION.
I'M NOT CERTAIN THAT IT WOULD FALL WITHIN OUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE DO AS A COMMISSION, BUT WE COULD CERTAINLY SUPPORT A GROUP THAT'S DOING THAT IN TERMS OF POINTING PEOPLE IN THAT DIRECTION AND USING THAT INFORMATION AS WE'RE, UM, WOULD, WOULD WE BE IN OUR SCOPE TO AT LEAST SUPPORT OR ATTEND OR WOULD THE COMMISSION BE WILLING TO HELP TO JUST WITH THEIR PRESENCE MORE THAN ANYTHING, TO ATTEND THOSE TYPES OF MEETINGS, TO MAYBE EVEN GO OVER WHAT THE SURPLUS, UH, PROPERTIES ARE AND TO GET THEM STARTED BEFORE WE START BUILDING HOMES.
LET'S START SEEING IF SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE AREA WOULD, WOULD QUALIFY FOR 'EM.
AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW, WOULD NOT FOR US TO HAVE THE LIST, BUT PEOPLE DON'T KNOW.
A LOT OF THEM HAVE NOT RESEARCHED IT BECAUSE THEY DON'T, THEY DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS POSSIBLE FOR THEM TO BECOME A HOMEOWNER.
AND THAT'S, I THINK, WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE HAPPEN.
AND IF MR. PAR, I MEAN, I THINK I'M, IF I'M READING YOU CORRECTLY, MR. PARHAM, UM, BECAUSE HOW ELSE WOULD THEY KNOW THAT THEY QUALIFIED TO BE HOMEOWNERS IF THEY DID NOT GO THROUGH THE PROCESS? I AGREE.
I MEAN, THAT'S VERY VALUABLE AND I KNOW THAT PERHAPS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,
HAS DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH WORK IN THAT AREA.
I'LL LET YOU SPEAK ABOUT THAT.
UM, ONE OF, ONE OF THE ROLES THAT I FILL FOR THE COMMISSION IS TO BE A CONDUIT BETWEEN THE COMMUNITY AND, AND YOU ALL AND RESOURCES.
UH, AND SO WHEN INDIVIDUALS CALL, UM, CALL MY OFFICE, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO IS, IS REFER THEM TO LOCAL, UH, TO LOCAL RESOURCES THEY HAVE AT THEIR DISPOSAL.
IF ONE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GROUPS, UH, WERE, WERE TO COLLABORATE WITH ME, I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SUPPORT, UH, THEM WITH GETTING A SPEAKER OR, UH, PROVIDING A SPACE OR WHATEVER AND, AND, AND MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL ARE INVOLVED IN THAT.
I'M HAPPY TO FULFILL THAT ROLE.
SO I, I APPRECIATE YOU REEMPHASIZING YOUR ROLE AS A CONDUIT BECAUSE I THINK, UM, WE CERTAINLY USE YOU FOR A LOT OF RESOURCES AND I WOULD LIKE TO THINK THAT THE COMMUNITIES COULD REACH OUT TO YOU AS WELL.
MAY I THANK YOU, DEB, AND THANK YOU MADAM CHAIRWOMAN FOR YES.
I WAS UNDER IMPRESSION THAT THE HOUSING THAT WE WERE BUILT OF THE ONE THAT WAS AVAILABLE WAS AVAILABLE FOR THE PUBLIC AS WELL AS OUR BUFFER WITH THE HOUSES ON.
SO MAYBE WE COULD HAVE AN OPEN HOUSE FOR THE PUBLIC, ADVERTISE IT, GIVE THEM A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THE HOUSES INSTEAD OF HAVING A FLOCK OF HOUSES BUILT, THE HOUSE GOING MAY BE OUR LAST RESORT.
WE LIKE HAVE THE HOUSE OPEN, FIT PUBLIC WITH AN OPEN HOUSE, UH, SOME TYPE OF CELEBRATION TO LET THE, UH, NEIGHBORHOODS LET THE NEW, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING.
AND THE HOUSE IS ALL OPEN FOR THE PUBLIC TO BUY.
I THINK THE, THE ONE THING WE'RE, THERE'S A LOT OF IDEAS GOING AROUND HERE, WHICH ARE GOOD.
ONE OF THE, THE THING WE WANTED TO DIRECT OUR EXECUTIVE
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DIRECTOR TO DO IS TO OPEN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO SEE THEIR INTEREST IN CO-DEVELOPING.AND, AND THERE ARE OTHER PROPERTIES THAT CAN BE DEVELOPED IN DIFFERENT WAYS AS WELL.
BUT I KNOW WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THAT FOR THE WEST A STREET.
I, I THINK IN THE SPIRIT OF CLARITY, JUST FOR MYSELF, WHAT WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO TO NOTE IS EXACTLY WHAT ASK I'M ASKING THEM IF THEY'RE INTERESTED IN, IS IT A WIDE SWEEPING, UH, BROAD SWEEPING, UH, REQUEST SUCH AS, UH, COMMISSIONER DILLA HUNT IS, IS ASKING, OR IS IT A MORE NARROW SCOPE SPECIFICALLY FOR THE WEST A STREET, UH, PROJECT? OR IS IT JUST TO, TO TO MEASURE THEIR INTEREST IN CO-DEVELOPING WITH US? AND I'LL REPORT BACK IN NOVEMBER.
SO, AND AS YOU'RE PONDERING THAT QUESTION FROM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, IT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR YOU TO BEAR IN MIND THAT THERE MAY BE DEVELOPMENTS, UM, COMING IN THE FUTURE WHERE YOU ALL ARE NOT THE REDEVELOPER.
IT MAY BE THAT YOU IDENTIFY RE DEVELOPERS EITHER LOCALLY, UM, OR REGIONALLY THAT COME IN, UM, ACQUIRE PROPERTY FROM YOU AND THEY CONSTRUCT WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU TELL THEM TO CONSTRUCT.
SO IF THAT'S THE CASE, IF THE PROPERTY IS IN THE HANDS OF A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, THEN THAT MAY ADD SOME COMPLEXITY ABOUT, YOU KNOW, HOW YOU INSTRUCT THAT DEVELOPER TO MARKET AND ADVERTISE.
CERTAINLY IF THEY'RE IN THE PRIVATE INDUSTRY, THEY'RE INTERESTED IN MAKING A PROFIT.
UM, SO WITHIN THE RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS THAT YOU PLACE, THEY'RE GONNA BE VERY INCENTIVIZED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR INTENDED CUSTOMER KNOWS THAT THIS PRODUCT IS ON THE MARKET AND HAS ACCESS TO IT.
SO AS YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT HOW BROAD YOU WANT THIS CONVERSATION TO BE WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, BEAR IN MIND THERE MAY BE PRIVATE ENTITIES THAT ARE INTERESTED AS WELL.
I THINK, AND I THINK UNDERLYING THE WHOLE THING IS THAT, UM, MR. ILLA HUNT STARTED TO SAY IT AND THEN KIP TOOK OVER, IS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO BUILD AND THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR HAVING PROPERTY ON OUR HANDS.
WE NEED ABSOLUTELY SOMEBODY TO PARTNER WITH WHATEVER WE DO, WHETHER IT'S A PRIVATE DEVELOPER OR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.
AND, AND BETH, THE OTHER THING IS WE'RE TALKING, MY INTENT WAS TO BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WEST A STREET.
WE HAVE OTHER ACCUMULATED PROPERTIES LIKE FIRST FIRST STREET MM-HMM.
AND, AND MR. DALE HUNT AND I THINK HAS GOT SOME CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT THIS EVENING, UH, WHERE THAT CAN DEVELOP.
BUT RIGHT NOW, AS WE STAND HERE, WE, WE DON'T HAVE THAT.
AND WE, WE DO HAVE A KNOWN NEED, UH, FOR THE FOLKS IN TRENT COURT, UH, THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
WE, WE ALL SAW WHAT HAPPENED AFTER THEY HAD TO ABANDON THE HOUSING THEY HAD THERE.
A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE DISPLACED AND A LOT OF 'EM LEFT.
NEW BERN WILL NEVER COME BACK.
AND, UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT, THAT WE PARTNER WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME IMPACT ON, UH, TO KEEP THE RESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN LIVING HERE A LONG TIME AS PART OF, UH, THE NEWBURGH COMMUNITY.
SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIVE, FOUR OR FIVE HOUSES DEPENDING ON WHAT WE GET BACK WITH THE PROPERTY SURVEY AND WHAT WE CAN DEVELOP FROM A HOUSING, UH, FOOTPRINT.
SO THAT, THAT WAS MY INTENT WAS NOT TO, NOT TO ABANDON THAT.
'CAUSE I THINK WE ALL UNDERSTAND THAT OUR PRIMARY ROLE IS TO MINIMIZE RISK, WHICH WE WOULD DO IF WE WERE TRYING TO SELL HOUSES OURSELVES AND, AND, BUT BE LAND ACCUMULATORS TO WORK WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS.
BUT I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE ON FIRST AVENUE AND WHAT WE DID ON, UH, BLOOMFIELD STREET AND SOME OTHER, OTHER LOCATIONS.
UH, MR. DI HUNT MENTIONED SECOND AVENUE.
WE HAVE SOME ACCUMULATED PROPERTIES THERE THAT FIT INTO THOSE TYPE OF, UH, SITUATIONS WHERE WE COULD WORK WITH PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WHO WOULD BUILD FOR SALE HOME OWNERSHIP HOUSING.
SO WE ARE SEEKING CONSENSUS AT THIS TIME TO ASK THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR TO SEE THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES, UM, WILLINGNESS TO PARTNER OR DESIRE, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE INTERESTED AT ALL WITH WEST A STREET.
AND IT WOULD BE VERY SIMILAR TO WALL BELLAMY.
I THINK IN OUR MEETING WE DISCUSSED THREE BEDROOM HOUSES AND AS OPPOSED TO TWO BEDROOM AND LIKE KIP SAID, FOUR OR FIVE.
SO IT'S A VERY SIMILAR PROCESS.
THEY WOULD, IT'S AN EASIER ASK TO GET THEIR HEAD AROUND THAN JUST ANYTHING.
AND NOW I AM GOING TO GO TO THE NEXT, UM, ITEM
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UNDER THE OLD BUSINESS, WHICH IS THE BLOOMFIELD PROJECT.AND I BELIEVE COMMISSIONER WALLACE IS GONNA TAKE THAT ONE FOR ME.
BLOOMFIELD PROPERTY, BLOOMFIELD PROPERTY ROUND AND AROUND AND ROUND WE GO.
UH, MANY DISCUSSIONS HAVE BEEN MADE WRITTEN FOR REFERENCE TO THE BLOOMFIELD PROPERTY AND, UH, WE DISCUSSED A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES, MULTIPLE POSSIBILITIES, BUT WE CAME TO THE GOAL, UM, IS TO CONVEY THE REAL PROPERTY TO THE DEVELOPER FOR THEM TO DEVELOP IT IN CERTAIN SPECS, AND THEN WE WOULD ADVERTISE FOR SEALED BIDS.
THE CONTROLLER STATUTE OF THIS PROCESS IS GS 1 68 DASH 2 68.
THIS PROCESS ALLOWS US TO COMMISSION, TO ADVERTISE THE SALES AT THE MINIMUM BID PRICE AND ANY OTHER CONDITIONS, COVENANTS OR RESTRICTIONS, UH, THAT WE PRETTY MUCH, UM, VOTE FOR THE CONDITIONS OR ET CETERA FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD INCLUDE AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING COMPETITION WITHIN 120 DAYS OF SAID EVENT AND BEING BUILT PURSUANT TO THE APPROVED PLANS.
BUT HERE ARE THE STEPS FOR THE SEAL BID PROCESS.
UM, THE, THE COMMISSION ADOPTS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A SALE BY SEAL BID.
THE RESOLUTION WILL IDENTIFY THE PROPERTIES TO BE SOLD AND CONDITIONS FOR THE SALE.
AND YOU WERE SENT THE, UH, PROPOSED RESOLUTION EARLIER, UH, EARLIER.
UM, WE'LL PUBLISH THE NOTICE OF THE SALE IN THE NEWSPAPER.
THE NOTICE ESSENTIALLY SUMMARIZES THE CONTENTS OF THE RESOLUTION AND SPECIFIES THE DATE AND TIME AND LOCATION OF THE BID OPEN.
THE BID PERIOD IS OPEN FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS.
ONCE THE BID PERIOD HAS CLOSED, THEN THE BIDS ARE OPEN.
THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AWARDS THE PROPERTY TO THE HIGHEST RESPONSIVE, RESPONSIBLE BIDDER OR REJECTS ALL BIDS.
NOW IN OUR RESOLUTION, WE GO EXTREMELY INTO DETAIL, FIVE PAGES LONG.
UM, I'M PRETTY SURE YOU READ IT BEFORE YOU GOT HERE, BUT THIS IS THE QUICK SUMMARY, UM, FOR THE BLOOMFIELD PROJECT.
BUT AT LEAST WE, WE GOT NEXT STEPS.
PROGRESS, JOB Z AND JAMIE COUNSEL, UM, ZEV, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD, UM, WITH THE PARTICULAR RESOLUTION OR, UH, COUNSEL? ANYTHING THAT I MISSED? UM, SO JUST SO EVERYONE'S AWARE, THIS IS THE PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE THREE PARCELS AND WE'RE ASKING A DEVELOPER TO COME IN AND, AND CONSTRUCT AND SELL.
UH, THOSE, THOSE DUPLEXES, THEY, THEY WOULD PURCHASE, UH, WITH SEALED BID, THEY WOULD PURCHASE THE PARCELS FROM US.
AND OUR RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THE PROJECT TEAM, UH, HAS, HAS PUT IN PLACE.
AND I THINK WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR FROM THE COMMISSION THIS EVENING IS THE APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION, UH, THAT WAS DRAFTED.
UM, SO THAT WE CAN, WE CAN START THAT PROCESS.
SO, AND, AND JUST TO PERHAPS ADD SOME ADDITIONAL CLARITY, YOU ALL ARE ACCUSTOMED TO CONVEYING PROPERTY BY UPSET BID.
IT WOULD BE WHERE A PERSON PRESENTS AN OFFER TO PURCHASE TO THE CITY CLERK WITH A 5% DEPOSIT.
WE NOTICE IT IN THE NEWSPAPER AND SOMEONE CAN UPSET THAT BID BY A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND IT GOES AND GOES AND GOES UNTIL WE GET TO THE HIGHEST BIDDER.
THAT'S THE PROCESS YOU'RE ACCUSTOMED TO.
THE SEAL BID PROCESS IS DIFFERENT IN THAT WE NOTICE TO THE WORLD THAT WE ARE ENTERTAINING OFFICE TO PURCHASE AND PEOPLE COME WITH ONE TIME AND PRESENT THEIR OFFER TO PURCHASE AND IT HAS TO BE THEIR BEST OFFER.
ON THAT SPECIAL DAY, THE CITY CLERK WILL OPEN ALL THE BIDS AND THE ONE THAT'S WILLING TO SELL FOR THE HIGHEST AMOUNT IS PRESENTED TO YOU, PROVIDED THEY COMPLY WITH ALL THE OTHER RESTRICTIONS AND COVENANTS THAT ARE IN THE RESOLUTION.
AND AS MR. WALLACE INDICATED, THERE'S AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING RESTRICTION THAT IF THE PERSON WHO OWNS OR OCCUPIES THAT DUPLEX MUST FALL WITHIN THAT, UH, 80% OR LESS A MI.
DID I SAY THAT RIGHT, MR. HUG? YOU DID.
UM, ADDITIONALLY, THERE'S A CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE AFTER WE CLOSE.
THEY GOT SO MANY TIMES, SO MANY, UM, DAYS TO PULL A BUILDING PERMIT THEREAFTER.
THEY'VE GOT SO MANY DAYS UNTIL THEY GET A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY.
WE HAVE THE SPECIFICATIONS ABOUT, UM, THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS AS WELL AS A MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE.
SO THIS IS A VERY DETAILED, UM, SET OF INSTRUCTIONS THAT AN INTENDED PURCHASER WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH.
WHOEVER PLACES THE BID WOULD TAKE THE ENTIRE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WOULD BE THE THREE LOTS, SO THAT THERE'S SOME CONTINUITY IN THAT, THAT CORRIDOR AS FAR AS AESTHETICS AND WHATNOT.
UM, BUT THAT PRIVATE DEVELOPER WOULD THEN BE RESPONSIBLE FOR EITHER SELLING OR RENTING THOSE UNITS CONSISTENT WITH THE AFFORDABILITY RESTRICTIONS THAT ARE GONNA BE BAKED INTO THE DEED.
SO YOU ALL WOULD NOT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR TRYING TO IDENTIFY A PERSON
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IN THE WORLD OR ENTITIES IN THE WORLD TO OWN OR OCCUPY THOSE STRUCTURES.SO THE UPSET BID PROCESS REQUIRES, CAN ALMOST BE LONGER BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE'LL BE UPSET VERSUS THE SEAL BID PROCESS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, GO HARD OR GO HOME, ESSENTIALLY.
SO I, I THINK THE PROJECT TEAM, UM, SELECTED THAT OPTION BECAUSE OF THOSE PARTICULAR ADVANTAGES.
AND WE'RE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT THE TYPES OF RESTRICTIONS THAT WOULD BE INCLUDED.
UM, AND IF YOU ADOPT THIS RESOLUTION, YOU WILL NOTE A, A SIGNIFICANT ABSENCE.
THERE IS NO MINIMUM BID IN THE RESOLUTION THAT'S BEFORE YOU TONIGHT.
UM, THAT WAS NOT RECOMMENDED BY THE PROJECT GROUP.
SO IF YOU ARE INCLINED TO DO SO, YOU CAN SET A MINIMUM BID AMOUNT FOR THESE PARCELS.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO BY LAW, THAT'S ENTIRELY YOUR PREROGATIVE.
SO YOU MAY WANT TO CONSIDER THAT AS YOU EVALUATE THE RESOLUTION TONIGHT.
COURSE, IF I CAN ASK YOU ONE, NOW YOU TALKING ABOUT FOR THE LAND OR FOR THE DUPLEXES AND THE LAND, THERE ARE NO DUPLEXES THERE CURRENTLY.
FOR THE LAND, THE ONLY PROPERTY THAT YOU HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONVEY IS THE REAL PROPERTY, WHICH IS THE DIRT ITSELF.
BUT WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THE PERSON WHO BUYS THE PROPERTY HAS TO BUILD THE DUPLEXES CORRECT.
IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL TO, TO THINK OF IT IN TERMS OF IN THE PAST, THE RESTRICTIONS WE'VE PLACED ON, UH, ON PARCELS THAT WE'VE SOLD HAVE TO DO WITH, UH, NO, NO CARS, NO OUTBUILDINGS, THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THESE ARE THE SAME KINDS OF RESTRICTIONS EXCEPT WE'RE TELLING THEM WHAT TO, WHAT TO PUT THERE.
INSTEAD OF WHAT NOT TO PUT THERE.
BUT WITH THE SEALED BID PROCESS, WE ARE NOT TELLING THEM SPECIFICALLY WHAT BUILDING TO PUT THERE OR WHAT AMENITIES THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR, WHETHER IT BE DRIVEWAY, WHETHER IT BE A TWO STORY, WHETHER IT BE SOUTH.
SO WE HAD THOSE PLANS, UH, IN A COUPLE OF MEETING.
SO WE GIVE THEM THE, THE CHOICE OF PLANS OR WE GIVE THEM AN OUTLINE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR TO, TO HAVE, BUT THEN IT'S ABOUT NUMBERS AND WHATEVER THE HIGHEST BID IS, IS WHAT WE MUST ADHERE TO.
YOU HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REJECT ALL BIDS.
SO THE, THE INFORMATION THAT'S GOING TO BE BROUGHT TO YOU IS WHO'S GONNA, WHO'S WILLING TO, TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY FOR THE HIGHEST AMOUNT.
SO THE CONDITIONS AS FAR AS THE CONSTRUCTION GOES, IS THE TIMELINE.
MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE, MINIMUM NUMBER OF BEDROOMS AND BATHROOMS. ALRIGHT.
THERE'S ALSO A FLOOR PLAN THAT IS ATTACHED.
UM, BUT AS FAR AS DRIVEWAYS AND THOSE TYPES OF EXTERNAL AMENITIES, THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME, OBVIOUSLY SOME, SOME INPUT FROM THE DEVELOPER ON THAT.
BUT WE ALSO HAVE OUR LAND USE ORDINANCE IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
SO WE HAVE REQUIREMENTS, AS MR. PARAGO WAS TALKING ABOUT, OUR VARIOUS DIFFERENT OVERLAYS.
THIS PARK, THIS PROPERTY FALLS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA OVERLAY.
SO WE HAVE SPECIFICATIONS ABOUT SETBACKS, HOW CLOSE THE BUILDINGS CAN BE TO THE STREET, UM, HOW MANY OFF STREET PARKING SPACES, UM, NEED TO BE THERE.
THOSE TYPES OF THINGS ARE BAKED INTO THE ORDINANCE, NOT NECESSARILY INTO THE RESTRICTIONS.
AND ANY DEVELOPER THAT IS GOING TO COME IN AND, AND POTENTIALLY BID ON THIS PROJECT WOULD NEED TO COMPLY WITH THE UNDERLYING, UH, LAND USE ORDINANCE.
THANK YOU COUNCIL FOR YOUR REFERENCE.
IF NOT, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I THINK DURING OUR DISCUSSION, I THINK WE ALSO PROBABLY KIND OF REALIZE THAT ONCE THIS DESCRIPTION GOES OUT, SOME OF THE DEVELOPERS MAY COME BACK TO US, SAY, THIS MIGHT NOT WORK.
AND MAY WANT TO ADD SOMETHING TO IT BEFORE THEY ACTUALLY DO THE BID.
SO THE DEVELOPER CAN HELP US THROUGH THIS PROCESS OF WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WE WANT IS REALLY GONNA WORK, UH, IF THIS IS GONNA REALLY WORK.
SO IF YOU ALL REFER TO PAGE FIVE OF FIVE IN THIS RESOLUTION, UH, LABELED EXHIBIT B, THOSE ARE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THE PROJECT TEAM, UH, GAVE TO STAFF.
UH, AND BASICALLY WE'VE MADE THEM BROAD ENOUGH AS DISCUSSED, WE'VE MADE THEM BROAD ENOUGH SO THAT THE DEVELOPER CAN DO WHAT THEY'RE PROFICIENT IN DOING AND DEVELOP AROUND THESE GUIDELINES.
BUT THAT, SO, SO THAT BAKED INTO, INTO THEIR PLANS IS EVERYTHING THAT'S IMPORTANT TO THE PROJECT TEAM.
SO, UM, I I THINK THOSE, THAT PAGE WILL PROBABLY ANSWER MOST OF YOUR QUESTIONS.
BUT I, I'VE ALSO HEARD THAT THERE'S ALREADY FLOOR PLANS THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET TO THE DEVELOPER AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE TOO.
THERE IS A FLOOR, THERE IS A SAMPLE FLOOR PLAN THAT THEY CAN USE AS A REFERENCE SAMPLE.
SOME DEVELOPERS MAY SEE THIS AND BEFORE THEY EVEN BID UP TO MAKE THE CALL, THEY CAN DIRECT SAY, LOOK, I SEE THE PLAN, BUT YOU MIGHT WANNA DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT.
AND ONE QUESTION I HAVE IS, IF THE DEVELOPER WHO WINS THE AWARD, WE'RE
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ALL AGREE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT AT THE TIMEFRAME OF STARTING TO BUILD OR, YOU KNOW, DOESN'T HAVE A BENEFICIAL OCCUPANCY, WHAT DOES THE LAND, UM, REVERT BACK TO US? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.SO IN, IN THE RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU SEE ON EXHIBIT, UM, B THAT MR. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR JUST REFERENCED, IF THE BUILDER, WHOEVER WINS THE AWARD, IF THEY FAIL TO OBTAIN, APPLY FOR A CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY WITHIN THE PRESCRIBED TIMEFRAMES TITLED TO THE LOTS THAT ARE NOT BUILT, REVERTS BACK TO THE, THE COMMISSION AUTOMATICALLY, UNLESS YOU ALL AGREE TO EXTEND THAT TIMELINE IN WRITING.
IS, IS THERE IN, IN THIS PROCESS THAT, THIS IS JUST ME THINKING, IS THERE ANY WAY TO, UH, HAVE THE PEOPLE THAT BID ON THIS TO SUBMIT REFERENCES OR, I MEAN, SO THAT WE KNOW WHO THESE PEOPLE ARE, UH, BECAUSE I MEAN, WE COULD, THE HIGHEST BIDDER COULD BE THE WORST DEVELOPER THAT WE YOU COULD EVER IMAGINE, UH, AND HAVE A TERRIBLE HISTORY OF, OF BUILDING AND, AND NON-CUSTOMER SERVICE AROUND.
I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT SOMEHOW IN, IN THIS PROCESS WHEN THEY, WHEN THE BIDS ARE SUBMITTED AND COME BEFORE US NOW, I JUST, HIGHEST BID IS ONE THING, BUT GETTING THE END RESULT THAT WE WANT IS ANOTHER BY THE QUALITY OF THE, OF THE CONTRACTOR.
AND THE GOOD THING ABOUT THIS PROCESS IS WHOEVER THE HIGHEST BIDDER IS, UM, WHEN THAT INFORMATION IS BROUGHT TO YOU, YOU DO NOT HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION THAT DAY.
YOU CAN TAKE SOME TIME IF YOU'D LIKE TO, TO INVESTIGATE, UM, THAT, THAT DEVELOPER MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE BONDED AND PROPERLY INSURED AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS BEFORE YOU CONSIDER AWARDING AN, UH, THE, THE CONTRACT.
AND ARE WE, UM, ALSO ABLE TO SELECT SOMEONE WHO IS NOT THE HIGHEST BIDDER, BUT SOMEONE WHO WE FEEL IS MORE QUALIFIED? MM-HMM,
SO THE QUALIFICATIONS ARE THE HIGHEST RESPONSIBLE RESPONSIVE BIDDER.
AND THERE IS A PRESUMPTION THAT IF THIS PERSON SATISFIES THE CRITERIA THAT YOU SET OUT IN THIS RESOLUTION THAT WILL BE PUBLISHED IN THE NEWSPAPER, THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIVE.
RESPONSIBLE AND REBID RESPONSIBLE.
ISN'T THAT OBJECTIVE
SO THAT IS WHERE WE WOULD REJECT ALL BIDS AND WE WOULD HAVE THE OPTION TO REBID.
THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECT WORKS.
A AS A MATTER OF THIS SPECIFICS ON, ON NIGHT, UH, ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, I THINK WE OUGHT TO ADD WORKERS' COMP IN THAT INSURANCE LISTING YOU HAVE COMPREHENSIVE AND LIABILITY AND LIABILITY INSURANCES.
THE WORKERS' COMP IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT, I THINK FOR THE CITY'S PROTECTION TO TICKET.
THAT SHOULD BE ADDED TO NUMBER EIGHT OF EXHIBIT B.
CAN I APPROVE THE RESOLUTION WITH THAT, THAT AMENDMENT.
THE, THE OTHER ISSUE IS SHE MENTIONED AND, AND WE'VE FAILED TO DISCUSS IT, A MINIMUM, MINIMUM BID.
IS THERE ANY APPETITE FOR SETTING A MINIMUM BID OR JUST LET THE MARKET PREVAIL? WELL, MADAM YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.
WITH THE MINIMUM BID, I JUST WANT US TO REALLY CONSIDER THERE'S NOTHING THERE RIGHT NOW.
UH, SO AND, AND ME BEING A LAYMAN LISTENING, UH, TO THE COUNCIL, JUST GO OVER WHAT THE DEVELOPER'S GOING TO HAVE TO END ENDURE ANYWAY, BUT GOING OVER THERE CONSIDERING, SO, UM, WITH THE MINIMUM BID, I'M NOT SAYING NOT TO, I'M JUST SAYING WE NEED TO REALLY CONSIDER, YOU KNOW, AS WE MOVE FORWARD WHAT THAT MINIMUM BID IS AND MAKE SURE IT IS MARKET IF IT'S NOT TO MARKET SO MM-HMM.
NOW WE NEED TO, WELL, NO, I KNOW THAT THE TAX VALUE WOULD BE OF THE LAND ONLY.
UM, OR WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE, WHAT WE'VE EXPENDED TO CREATE THE SITE MM-HMM.
THAT'S, THAT'S JUST EVERYTHING ELSE TO MAKE, TO MAKE IT A VIABLE BILLING SITE.
SO, BUT WE'LL BE, WE'LL HAVE TIME TO JUST ENTERTAIN ALL THAT THOUGH.
ONCE THE, DO WE SET MINIMUM BID TONIGHT BEFORE THE RESOLUTION? YES.
THAT WOULD BE AN AMENDMENT IF YOU ADD THAT.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING IS WE CAN ACCEPT THE RESOLUTION WITH NO MINIMUM BID OR WE CAN ADD MINIMUM BID AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION.
IF THAT IS THE APPETITE OF THE COMMISSION, WHICH NONE BID THERE,
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WHAT THE PROPERTY, WHAT YOU WANT, WHAT YOU WANT TO COVER, YOU WANT COVER TAX VALUE.THE EXPENSES THAT WE, WELL WE, WE, WE BOUGHT THE LAND OUTRIGHT OKAY.
AND WE HAVE, UH, INCURRED DEMOLITION COSTS OF THAT, OF THE MM-HMM.
AUTER HOUSE AND THE CLEANUP COSTS.
'CAUSE IT WAS NASTY, NASTY, NASTY PLACE WITH OLD GARAGES AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THE MONEY WE'VE SPENT TO CREATE A CLEAN BUILDABLE SITE.
I MEAN THAT, THAT STILL DOESN'T COVER OUR COSTS, BUT IT'S, IT'S RIGHT.
IT SURE HELPS US HAVE MONEY TO DO OTHER THINGS.
RE RECOUP SOME OF THOSE FUNDS.
BUT I, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT MINIMUM BID.
AND, AND AGAIN, I JUST BRING THAT UP.
YOU KNOW, I, IT'S GOOD DISCUSSION BECAUSE I, AND WE ARE NOT IN THE, JUST LIKE, WE'RE NOT IN THE FINANCIAL EDUCATION BUSINESS, WE'RE NOT IN THE BANKING BUSINESS.
WE ARE JUST TRYING TO HAVE MONEY TO PUT BACK INTO OUR PROJECTS.
UM, SO IF WE FEEL LIKE THIS IS THE MONEY WE'VE SPENT TO MAKE THIS VIABLE PROJECT AND THEN NO MINIMUM BID, THAT'S ONE WAY TO GO.
IF WE WANT TO TRY TO RECOUP SOME OF THAT FOR FUTURE PROJECTS.
IF THERE'S CONSENSUS IN THE, IN IN THE COMMISSION TO SEND THIS BACK TO THE PROJECT TEAM WITH SOME GUIDANCE TO DISCUSS MINIMUM BID.
YOU, YOU CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT.
IF, IF ON THE OTHER HAND YOU HAVE THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME IDEA OF WHAT THE MINIMUM SHOULD BID SHOULD BE, WE COULD CERTAINLY ADD THAT OR WE COULD PROCEED WITH THE MINIMUM BID.
WE DON'T NEED TO KICK THIS CAN DOWN THE ROAD EVERY MONTH.
NO, I, I'D SAY WE, YOU KNOW, AND I HOPE THIS IS AN APPROPRIATE QUESTION, BUT I KNOW YOU ARE ALWAYS WORKING FOR US AND DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE IS AN APPETITE NOW OR YOU HEARD INTEREST IN PEOPLE WANTING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT? UM, I WOULD SAY, UH, YES.
THERE, THERE'S QUITE AN APPETITE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PROJECT.
UM, I WOULD BE HESITANT TO GUARANTEE ANYTHING.
WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST, AND MADAM COUNSELOR, YOU CAN, YOU CAN PROVERBIALLY SLAP MY HAND IF YOU NEED TO.
UH, BUT WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST THAT IS IT'S BEEN THE PAST CUSTOM OF, OF THE COMMISSION TO APPLY 75% OF THE TAX ASSESSMENT, UH, A TAX ASSESSED VALUE, UH, TO PARCELS THAT, THAT WE, UM, DISPOSE OF.
SO 75% OF THE TAX ASSESSED VALUE IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF 20,000.
WELL THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN READING.
SO YOU, YOU COULD, YOU COULD JUST SAY 75.
UH, MINIMUM BID IS, UH, 75% OF THE TAX ASSESS VALUE, UH, FOR THESE PARCELS.
AND I, I CAN WORK WITH, UH, CITY ATTORNEY AND SOME OF 'EM, MAKE SURE THAT, THAT, UH, I LIKE THAT THAT'S IN THERE.
YOU GOOD TOO? LET ME GET SOUND.
BUT THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S SOMETHING YOU CAN, THAT WE HAVE A, YOU WANNA LIVE WITH.
I SEE NODDING HEADS ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE END.
IS THAT CORRECT?
SOMEBODY ELSE GOT A SECOND? SECOND.
WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
UM, CAN THIS BE AN ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE OR SINCE THIS? YES.
ALL IN, ARE ANY MORE DISCUSSION REQUIRED? I DON'T THINK SO.
AND WE WILL HAVE AN AMENDED RESOLUTION.
THIS PROPERTY, AGAIN BE OFF TO THE HOUSING BOARD.
THE HOUSING AUTHORITY COULD ABSOLUTELY SUBMIT A BID.
SO THIS PROJECT, BASED ON YOUR DIRECTION AND YOUR VOTE TONIGHT IS GONNA BE ADVERTISED IN THE NEW BRUN SUN JOURNAL PROBABLY ON SATURDAY WOULD BE MY BET.
AND ANY ONE OR ANY ENTITY IN THE WORLD CAN SUBMIT A BID.
WHAT'S THE PROPERTY IT BUILT? I'M SORRY.
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A BED TO BUILD THE PROPERTY, HAVE THEIR CONTRACTOR.AND AT THAT POINT IN TIME, THAT CONTRACTOR OWNS THE PROPERTY.
AND THEY WERE SO IT IS OUT OF OUR HANDS.
EVERYBODY STILL GOOD WITH THAT? WE'RE GOOD.
UM, THE LAST BIT OF OLD BUSINESS WE HAVE IS THE EUBANKS PROJECT.
YOU WANT ME TO, I'M NOT GOING TO DO IT.
I'M NOT GONNA SAY WHAT I WAS GONNA SAY, BUT, UH, I'M GONNA TURN THIS ONE OVER TO UBANKS PROJECT HAS BEEN EXTREMELY FRUSTRATING.
I CAN SAY, AS A COMMISSIONER SITTING OATH UP HERE AND, AND LEAD THIS PARTICULAR CHARGE BETTER.
I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SO HE CAN, UH, ELOQUENTLY, UH, UPDATE YOU ON THE PROGRESS OF THE UBANKS STREET PROJECT.
UH, THE EUBANKS PROJECT CONTINUES TO, TO BE COMPLEX AS COMMISSIONER UH, WALLACE HAS SAID.
WE DID HEAR BACK THIS MONTH FROM THE CDBG CONSULTANT.
UH, THERE WERE A FEW AREAS WHERE THERE SEEMED TO BE SOME CONFUSION, UM, AS WE'RE A PUBLIC ENTITY.
SO WE DON'T SELL ON THE OPEN MARKET.
AND SO, UH, UH, CITY ATTORNEY AND I ARE WORKING ON SOME LANGUAGE TO GET BACK TO, TO HIM SO WE CAN, UM, SO WE CAN GET AN ACTUAL ROAD, UH, ROADMAP, UH, FORWARD.
I HAVE, UH, SPOKEN TO CDBG STAFF AND WE ANTICIPATE A, UH, A PRESENTATION FROM CDBG AND, UH, IN THE COMING MONTHS.
SO WE HOPE TO GAIN, GAIN SOME TRACTION, UH, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE, UH, SEVERAL INDIVIDUALS HAVE COME FORWARD WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING, UH, THE PARCEL.
SO WE'RE JUST TRYING TO PAVE A WAY TO MAKE THAT POSSIBLE AND, UH, WORKING, STILL WORKING WITH CDBG, UH, CONSULTANT.
SO IT IT IS FRUSTRATING, UH, YOUR, YOUR FRUSTRATION IS CERTAINLY WARRANTED, SIR.
UM, BUT, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA, UH, WE'RE, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SOME HEADWIND IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS.
SO THAT'S THE UPDATE AT, AT UBANK.
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AND NOW WE ARE AT THE PLACE OF NEW BUSINESS AND WE HAVE, UM, I'M GONNA ASK COMMISSIONER DI HUNT TO DISCUSS WITH US FIRST AVENUE PRESENTATION.UM, FIRST AVENUE PROJECT AND IN HIS IDEA IS THERE COMMISSIONER? OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE ANY PROGRESS PER SE, BUT WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THAT.
I DO HAVE A ENGINEER ONCE WE PICK OUT THE PORTION THAT WE WON'T SURVEY THAT WE'LL SURVEY THE LOT AT NO CHARGE.
ONCE WE GET IT SURVEYED, WE CAN MOVE ON WITH WHAT WE GONNA PUT THERE, WHAT TYPE OF HOUSES WE GOING TO PUT THERE.
BUT THE MAIN THING THERE, WE GOT TO SEE WHAT PORTION OF THIR FIRST AVENUE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SURVEY.
SO WE ARE AT THAT POINT RIGHT NOW AND I DID SUBMIT SOME, UH, PLANS PER SE OF SOME HOUSES.
I THINK I'VE BEEN SUBMITTED A PLAN OF MAYBE THREE MM-HMM.
ONCE AGAIN, IF, UH, KIM HAS SAID PARAGO, IT DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE LOT OF WHAT THEY'RE MADE TO BE.
AND ONCE AGAIN, I WANT TO ASK, UH, Z DEVELOPER, WOULD IT BE OPEN FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR FOR THE GENERAL PUBLIC OR FOR BOTH? UM, I, I THINK THE, THE PROPER WAY TO ANSWER THAT IS THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS A, A CO-DEVELOPER, UH, IS A DEVELOPER LIKE ANY OTHER, IF THEY WERE INTERESTED IN A PRO IN A PROJECT, THEY ARE AS OPEN AS ANYONE ELSE TO PUT A TO PUT A BID IN.
HOWEVER YOU ALL DECIDE TO, UH, SET UP THE PROCESS AS DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
IT COULD BE A SEAL BID PROCESS, IT COULD BE AN UPSET BID PROCESS, UH, OR IT COULD BE A CO-DEVELOPMENT DEAL WHERE YOU, YOU START FROM THE BEGINNING.
AND SO IT REALLY DEPENDS UPON HOW YOU, HOW YOU ORGANIZE, UH, UH, SAID PROJECT AND, AND IT'S HELPFUL TO REMEMBER YOUR POWERS CHART.
SO WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT CHART SEVERAL TIMES.
I THINK WE REVIEWED IT AGAIN AT YOUR RETREAT, UM, AT THE BEGINNING OF 2024.
AND AT THE TOP OF THAT CHART, IT OUTLINES THE MECHANISMS THAT YOU CAN USE LEGALLY TO CONVEY REAL PROPERTY.
SO WHEN YOU'RE THINKING ABOUT YOUR INTENDED USER OR YOUR INTENDED CO-DEVELOPER OR DEVELOPER OR REDEVELOPER, YOU MAY WANT TO BEAR THOSE PATHWAYS IN MIND.
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DIRECTOR JUST INDICATED, YOU'VE GOTTA CHECK ONE OF THOSE BOXES.SO IF YOU DECIDE THAT AN APPROPRIATE, UM, DEVELOPER FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IS A PUBLIC ENTITY OF SOME SORT, THEN THERE'S A LEGAL PATHWAY FOR US TO PURSUE THAT.
AND YOU MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT WHO THAT ENTITY MIGHT BE EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS SO THAT YOU GET THEIR INPUT AND FEEDBACK, ET CETERA.
IF YOU DECIDE THAT A PRIVATE ENTITY IS BETTER SUITED FOR THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAN WE HAVE SOME STATUTORY MECHANISMS BY WHICH TO GET THE HANDS AND THE GET THE PROPERTY IN THE HANDS OF A PRIVATE DEVELOPER SUBJECT TO YOUR RESTRICTIONS AND CONDITIONS.
UM, WE, I MEANT ARE WE ENTRANCE IN THE THREE LOTS THAT WE ARE GOING TO GET SURVEYED FREE? WE'RE ABOUT FOR? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR? THAT'S A QUESTION I'M ASK THE BOARD MR. DILL HUNT.
JUST TO BE CLEAR ON FIRST AVENUE, UM, THERE IS A VERY LARGE PARCEL.
ARE YOU ABLE TO OFFER THE, THE COMMISSIONER ANY, THE COMMISSION ANY ADDITIONAL DETAILS ABOUT WHAT LOTS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED THAT WAY THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO REFLECT QUESTION? THAT'S THE QUESTION I'M ASKING.
Z THE COMMISSION, WHAT PART OF THAT PLOT FROM I GUESS CEDAR STREET ALL THE WAY TO, I THINK THAT'S ELM STREET.
WHAT PART DO WE WANT TO DEVELOP FIRST? ONCE I GET THAT DIRECTIVE, I CAN MOVE ON FROM THAT, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
SO THE COMMISSION DOES NOT OWN THE LOTS, UM, CLOSEST TO CEDAR STREET.
WELL, I THINK, I THINK WHAT WE NEED TO DO FROM WHAT OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION MR. DI HUNT IS, IS GET WITH THE ENGINEER AND HAVE THEM DO A PERIMETER SURVEY OF WHAT WE OWN TODAY.
AND THAT GIVES US A FIRM SURVEY TO WORK WITH AND WE CAN FIGURE OUT HOW TO SUBDIVIDE IT OR, OR PRESENT IT TO A DEVELOPER.
BUT ALL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THIS STAGE, I THINK IS A PERIMETER BOUNDARY SURVEY, BUT THREE LOT ONLY WELL, FOR WHAT WE OWN THERE.
THAT'S A DIFFERENT, YEAH, I MEAN IT IS BASICALLY THE LEFT HAND SIDE GOING FROM, UH, ELM UP TO TOWARDS CEDAR.
WE OWN THAT LAND, IF Y'ALL RECALL, WE BOUGHT FROM UH, DOUBLE THERE WAS A TRAILER ON IT.
THERE ARE TWO DWELLINGS FROM THE CEDAR RIGHT IN AND THEN A BIG DWELLING AND THEN WHERE WE HAD IT REMOVED FROM ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE, UH, CHURCH, FROM THE BACK OF THE CHURCH.
THEN IF IT MIGHT BE HELPFUL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THE, THE LARGE PARCEL ON FIRST AVENUE SEEMS TO HAVE COMMISSIONED CONSENSUS AND YOU ALL WANT THAT SURVEYED.
SO MAYBE THE FIRST PARCEL, UH, THAT YOU'RE SURVEYING PARTNER COULD ATTEND TO IS THE LARGE PARCEL ON FIRST AVENUE.
AND THEN THE PROJECT TEAM CAN SUGGEST TWO ADDITIONAL PARCELS, UH, ON TOP OF FIRST AVENUE.
THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE, UH, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE DESIGNATED TONIGHT.
AS LONG AS WE CAN GIVE MR. DILLA HUNT SOME GENERAL, UH, SOME GENERAL, UM, GUIDANCE ON WHERE TO START AND THEN HE CAN BRING BACK A, SOME SORT OF REPORT AND WE CAN, AND MAYBE EVEN A SUGGESTION ON ADDITIONAL TWO PARCELS.
AND I CAN CERTAINLY WORK WITH YOU ON THAT.
I DON'T WANNA, AND IT'S A LOT, UM, APPRECIATE MR. DIANTE'S WORK THERE TO GET WITH THE SURVEYOR TO DO THAT WORK.
DOES HE NEED TO BRING US A PROPOSAL FOR APPROVAL OR DOES HE HAVE THE CAPACITY TO HIRE THAT PERSON AND USE FUNDS? WELL, I THINK MR. HUNT INDICATED THAT THIS SURVEY WOULD BE DONE AT NO COST TO THE COMMISSION.
I MISSED THAT TO BE AN EXTENT.
AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE COMMISSION ONLY OWNS TWO PARCELS ON FIRST AVENUE, CORRECT.
SO IF SO A BOUNDARY OF ALL THEY'RE CONTIGUOUS.
SO WE'RE WANT, WE WANT TO HAVE A BOUNDARY SURVEY OF ALL THE PROPERTY WE OWN RIGHT THERE, WHICH IS TWO LOTS.
AND THEN, UM, PROPERTY DOES A BUT UP AGAINST A, A, UH, WALL OF, UM, TREE BRUSH.
AND THEN BEHIND THAT IS SECOND AVENUE.
AND I THINK THE DWELLING OWNED BY ED MCGOVERN IS RIGHT THERE.
AND AND THAT'S WHY WE LIKE TO GET BOUNDARY SURVEYS.
BECAUSE THERE'S LOTS OF DEEPER THAN, THAN THEY ARE VISUALLY.
AND IF, IF, IF WE'RE GOING TO TRY AGAIN TO, UH, OFFER THEM UP FOR DEV PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT, IT, IT, IT, WE NEED TO KNOW, YOU NEED TO KNOW IN THE SENSE THE DEVELOPER NEEDS TO KNOW.
'CAUSE IF YOU RIDE DOWN THE STREET, LOOK AT THE WOOD BACK THERE, YOU, IF YOU COULD ASSUME THAT THAT'S THE PROPERTY LINE AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE.
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LET ME, LET ME, UH, BRING THIS BEFORE THE, UH, COMMISSION, THE BIGGEST LOCK OR THE LAUNDRY IS LOCKED, MAYBE WE'LL GET THAT LOCKED SURVEYED AND WE COULD SET OUR BACK BOUNDARIES HOPEFULLY ACCORDING TO THAT LINE THAT THEY SAID, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.SO, BECAUSE COMMISSIONER DILL HUNT IS NOT ASKING TO SPEND ANY MONEY, THERE IS NO RESOLUTION NECESSARY, JUST GENERAL GUIDANCE GIVEN TO HIM SO HE CAN CONTINUE ON, ON HIS FIRST AVENUE DEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE ALL APPROVED.
YOU ALL APPROVED, EXCUSE ME, I DON'T GET A VOTE.
UH, YOU ALL APPROVED BACK IN JANUARY? MM-HMM.
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR.
I'M THINKING EVERYBODY'S NODDING THEIR HEAD FOR YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT.
I DON'T WANNA WASTE MY TIME AND YOUR TIME AND THEN SLIP THEIR TIME EITHER.
SO THEN YOU CAN BRING THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US FOR FURTHER CONSIDERATION.
AND I, THE NAME ALSO, I THINK I DISCUSSED WITH A COUPLE PEOPLE, BUT, UH, NICE.
SO JUST, JUST SO THE RECORD IS CLEAR, MR. HAN, I JUST HEARD YOU SAY THAT THE SURVEY WERE SURVEYED UP TO THREE LOTS, BUT THE COMMISSION IS ASKING THE SURVEYOR TO SURVEY THE ONE LARGE PARCEL.
IS THAT, IS THAT THE DIRECTION TONIGHT OR NO? YEAH, BUT THERE'S ANOTHER LITTLE ONE ADJACENT TO IT DOWN ON ELM STREET.
SO THE DIRECTION, THE GUIDANCE THAT'S BEING GIVEN TONIGHT IS FOR THE SURVEYOR TO SURVEY THE TWO PARCELS THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OWNS THAT FRONT ON FIRST AVENUE.
IS THAT THE DIRECTION? WELL, THE CORNER OF ILMAN FIRST EL STREET AND FIRST AVENUE IS ALL OF THE ONE, RIGHT? I MEAN, THERE'S TWO LOTS, BUT THEY ARE SIDE BY SIDE.
SO IT, I THINK MR. ALLEN HAD OWNED THE LARGEST LOT.
SO WE'LL GO FROM THERE TO AM AND JUST SEE WHAT'S, WHY.
I JUST WANT SOME GUIDANCE ON THAT TONIGHT.
TO SEE HOW FULL OR WHAT I NEED TO DO, SIR, WITHOUT, YOU KNOW, WISHING ANY TIME TO SEE HOW YOU ADVERTISE FOR I, I THINK THAT'S GREAT AND APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT WORK.
AND IF Y'ALL, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT I THINK WE WOULD LOVE IF, IF HE COULD DO BOTH OF THE LOTS TOGETHER SURVEY BOTH OF THOSE THAT WE OWN, JUST THE ONES THAT WE OWN, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, THE SMALL ONE, AND THE LORD.
APPRECIATE YOU DOING THAT WORK AND BRINGING IT FORTH TONIGHT.
SORRY, I MISUNDERSTOOD AT THE BEGINNING.
[IX. Staff Report]
AGENDA IS OUR STAFF REPORT.ALRIGHT, UH, JUST A COUPLE OF ITEMS TONIGHT FOR THE COMMISSION TO CONSIDER.
UH, THE FIRST ITEM IS THE PROPOSED CALENDAR FOR 2025 AND OUR LAST MEETING, WE TALKED ABOUT OUR, OUR OUR MEETING SCHEDULE AND SPECIFICALLY OUR RETREAT, UH, A RETREAT DATE.
I PROMISED YOU ALL THAT I WOULD SEND A DOODLE, UH, A DOODLE POLL OUT TO SEE WHAT, UH, SATURDAYS MIGHT BE, UH, AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMISSION.
BUT IF WE WANT TO DO, UM, A JANUARY RETREAT LIKE WE DID LAST YEAR ON A SATURDAY MORNING, UH, THE THIRD SATURDAY WOULD BE THE ONLY SATURDAY AVAILABLE TO US.
SO I DID PROVIDE FOR YOU A PROPOSED, UH, CALENDAR OUTLINE, WHICH WE CAN CERTAINLY, UH, DISCUSS, UH, THIS EVENING.
UM, AND SO I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT AND TAKE ANY GUIDANCE THAT YOU HAVE, UH, FOR THAT IN GENERAL.
UM, I DID WANT TO JUST ADD TO MR. PARAGUAY'S, UM, UH, UM, REPORT ON WEST A STREET THAT WE DID ACTUALLY RECEIVE A DRAFT, UH, A PRELIMINARY DRAFT OF THE SURVEY WORK, UH, ON WEST A STREET.
IT WAS JUST MISSING A BOUNDARY LINE, SO THAT WAS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT.
SO WE SENT IT BACK AND ASKED FOR A CORRECTION.
UH, AND I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE, UH, UH, WITH THE TEAM LEAD ON TRYING TO FIND THAT LINE.
UM, I DO WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE COMMISSION, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ATTEND AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UM, TRAINING WITH THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT, UH, THIS PAST MONTH.
AND IT WAS VERY ENLIGHTENING AND, UH, WE, WE HAD, UH, A GREAT DISCUSSION AND WE TALKED ABOUT NEW BERN AND OUR REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS QUITE A BIT.
UM, YOU CAN READ THE REST OF THE REPORT, IT'S INCLUDED IN IT IS INCLUDED IN YOUR PACKET AND NOT REALLY SUBSTANTIAL, UH, TO, TO THE DISCUSSION.
WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT TO, UH, TO TONIGHT'S DISCUSSION IS, UH, I PROMISED YOU ALL LAST MONTH A UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THE, UM, WITH THE WEBSITE AND IF I CAN WORK TECHNOLOGY WELL, I'D LIKE TO SHOW YOU WHERE, WHERE WE'VE COME WITH, UH, THE WEBSITE.
IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE EXISTING WEBSITE,
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IT DOESN'T LOOK AT ALL LIKE THIS.UH, SOME COMPLAINTS THAT WE'VE GOTTEN HAVE BEEN, UH, SUCH THAT THERE'S TOO MANY CLICKS, THERE'S TOO MANY LAYERS, UH, THINGS ARE NESTED.
SO WE WANTED TO MAKE EVERYTHING REALLY, REALLY USER FRIENDLY AND ENGAGING.
AND SO, UH, WITH THE, UH, WITH THE WORK THAT WE'VE DONE ON THIS SITE, UH, IT WILL BE TOTALLY SCROLLABLE.
SO FROM THE TOP YOU CAN SCROLL.
THE FIRST THING YOU'RE GONNA COME UP, UH, COME TO IS OUR AGENDA MINUTES AND OUR LINKS, UH, AS WELL AS OUR CALENDAR.
UH, WE'VE EMBEDDED HISTORY AS WELL AS ALL THE PLANS THAT WE WORK OFF OF, UH, AS A COMMISSION.
UH, WE'VE DEFINED THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND GIVEN SOME OF OUR HISTORY THERE AS WELL, IN ADDITION TO, TO SCROLLING, YOU COULD ALSO TAB THROUGH THESE AT THE TOP.
AND SO NO MATTER HOW HOW YOU WANT TO INTERACT WITH, UH, WITH THE SITE, YOU, YOU CAN CHOOSE HOW YOU INTERACT WITH THE SITE.
UM, WE'VE, UH, PARTNERED WITH GIS, UH, AND PUT A NUMBER OF HELPFUL MAPS OF OUR BOUNDARY AREA THAT JUST GO OVER INFORMATION REGARDING OUR PARCELS AND OUR BOUNDARIES, UH, THAT THE PUBLIC, UH, WOULD FIND HELPFUL, INCLUDING A FLOODPLAIN MAP, WHICH IS A HOT TOPIC IN, IN, IN OUR BOUNDARY AREA.
UH, WE ALSO THOUGHT THAT IT WAS IMPORTANT TO INCLUDE, UH, INFORMATION ABOUT GROWTH AND BUILDING PERMITS JUST SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE THAT WORK IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING IN THE REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY AREA AND THEY CAN SEE WHERE THAT WORK IS HAPPENING.
THAT MAP RIGHT THERE IS A DYNAMIC MAP, AND SO EVERY TIME SOMEONE PULLS A PERMIT, UH, A LITTLE, A LITTLE DOT WILL BE ADDED TO OUR BOUNDARY AREA.
SO, SO THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE WHERE THE WORK IS HAPPENING, WHAT NEW DEVELOPMENT IS HAPPENING IN OUR BOUNDARY AREA.
THIS WILL ALSO BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR THOSE RESIDENT GROUPS, UH, THAT ARE CONCERNED WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN IN THOSE KINDS OF THINGS.
THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GO IN AND ACTUALLY SEE IS SCOPE THAT OUT.
UH, AND THEN WE ALSO WANTED TO REALLY FOCUS ON OUR WORK AND HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE.
AND SO OUR PAST PROJECTS, EVERY TIME WE WE GET SOMETHING APPROVED AND PUT FORWARD, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND UPDATE THAT.
AND SO YOU'LL SEE THE HEALTH AND WELLNESS CLINIC, THE WALT BELLAMY, UH, PROJECT, UH, LISTED THERE, AS WELL AS THINGS THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON SUCH AS WEST A STREET AND THE BLOOMFIELD PARCELS, ALL REALLY GIVEN AN OVERVIEW GIVEN, UH, WHERE WE ARE SO THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC AT ANY POINT CAN CLICK ON OUR WEBSITE AND SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING, WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH SO THAT THEY CAN HELP US OUT.
UM, THAT MAP THAT YOU JUST WENT PAST SHOWS A STREET THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
OOPS, GO BACK, GO DOWN THE OTHER WAY.
THERE'S FIRST STREET RIGHT THERE.
AND THAT, THAT RED PARCEL FIRST AVENUE IS WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT GETTING SURVEYED.
UH, THE NEXT THING WE, THE NEXT TAB DOWN IS WAYS TO INVEST.
UH, ONE, PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST QUESTIONS I GET ASKED ALL THE TIME IS, HOW DO I PURCHASE A PIECE OF RDC UH, PROPERTY? WE OUTLINED THE ENTIRE, UH, THE ENTIRE PROCESS HERE, AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS SCROLL DOWN.
ALL OF THE LINKS ARE DYNAMIC LINKS, SO THEY'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY JUST CLICK ON, CLICK ON SELLABLE LOTS AND IT'LL GO TO THE SELLABLE LOTS LIST, CLICK ON THE OFFER TO PURCHASE, UH, SHEET, AND IT'LL BRING UP A PDF OF OFFER TO PURCHASE SO THEY CAN PRINT IT OFF AND GIVE IT TO THE CITY CLERK.
WE WANTED TO MAKE EVERYTHING REALLY ACCESSIBLE AND REALLY ENGAGING AND VERY USER FRIENDLY.
UM, AND THEN OF COURSE THAT, THAT IS OUR SELLABLE PROPERTIES.
AND THEN THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN BY WHICH WE ARE GOVERNED AS A BEAST OF GENERAL STATUTE.
UH, WE WANTED TO PUT ALL OF THOSE DETAILS IN THERE.
UM, I WILL INCLUDE, UH, IN, I WILL INCLUDE IN MY FOLLOW UP EMAIL A LINK TO THIS SO THAT YOU ALL CAN SCROLL THROUGH AT YOUR LEISURE.
UM, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WASN'T JUST TALKING ABOUT, UH, THIS PROJECT.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT IS QUITE, UM, IT, IT IS QUITE, UH, COMPLEX AND, AND GOT, HAS A LOT OF MOVING PARTS.
WE STILL HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS TO DO INCLUDING CHANGE OUR VICE CHAIR BECAUSE IT STILL SAYS KIP IS THE VICE CHAIR, BUT, UH, MR. WALLACE, SEE HOW
I GONNA SAY SOMETHING AFTER ME
SO, UH, UH, SO, UM, THERE ARE ALL YOUR FACES AND ALL OF YOUR, UH, INFORMATION AND SO THAT'S THE WEBSITE, THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DEVELOPED.
I'M HAPPY TO HEAR ANY FEEDBACK THAT YOU ALL HAVE, UH, AS FAR AS GUIDANCE, UH, OR CHANGES.
AND AGAIN, I'LL SEND THIS IN A FOLLOW UP EMAIL
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AND DEFINITELY, UH, AND DEFINITELY YOU CAN EMAIL ME AND WE CAN BE IN, UH, CONVERSATION OVER THE NEXT MONTH.UH, OUR HOPE IS TO MAKE THIS LIVE, UH, BY, BY THE BEGINNING OF THE NEW YEAR.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, UH, THE ONLY OTHER PART OF THE STAFF REPORT THAT I HAVE, UH, FOR THIS EVENING IS I DID HAVE, UH, MS. MARGARET SHIELDS, UH, COME TONIGHT.
UH, IF, IF YOU ALL REMEMBER, UH, WE ENTERED INTO CONTRACT WITH FUND DEVELOPMENT LLC, UH, A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, AND, UH, MS. SHIELDS HAD, HAS BEEN DOING A LOT OF RESEARCH AND A LOT OF DIGGING FOR US, AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SHARE WITH YOU A LITTLE BIT OF HER WORK, UH, THAT, THAT SHE HAS AND SO THAT YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE SHE IS AND, AND ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF HER.
SO MS. SHIELDS, SO IF IT'S OKAY, IF YOU COULD COME THROUGH THE MICROPHONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
WELL, IF IT'S OKAY WITH THE COMMISSIONER TO STAND HERE BECAUSE AS I WAS GETTING ON THE ELEVATOR, MY SHOE BROKE THERE.
SO EVERYBODY, SO, SO I HAVE DONE SOME INVESTIGATING AS Z SAID, AND UM, HAD A CONVERSATION AND A CALL LAST WEEK WITH, UM, LIZ, UM, WITH THE NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE ABOUT THE RURAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT GRANT BECAUSE WE THOUGHT THAT THAT COULD BE A GREAT, UH, FUNDING SOURCE FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
UM, THOSE GRANTS REPLACED THE MAIN STREET, UM, GRANTS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH, UM, RECEIVED A NUMBER OF THOSE AND THEREFORE DEVELOPMENT OF VACANT PROPERTIES.
UM, BUT THE PROPERTY DOES HAVE TO BE OWNED BY THE CITY.
UM, I SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT PROPERTIES THAT ARE OWNED BY LAW AND, UM, THEY DIDN'T, THEY, THEY JUST COULDN'T AGREE ON THAT.
UM, THAT, THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE COULD PROPOSE.
SO WE MAY NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATION WITH THEM.
UM, UH, SAID THAT I CAN ARRANGE ANOTHER CALL, UM, BECAUSE IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, WE GOT PROPERTIES THAT WE COULD, UM, DEPOSE FOR FUNDING.
UM, I ALSO WAS ON A WEBINAR TODAY WITH EC HILL AND THEIR, THE PROGRAM THAT IS, UM, CAROLINA ACROSS 100, AND THEY'VE DONE FERENCE BEFORE, BUT THIS IS SPECIFICALLY FOR OUR STATE OUTCOMES, WHICH IS A PROGRAM THAT IS TRYING TO, UM, INCREASE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE STATE.
AND SO, UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT FITS WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS TRYING TO DO.
AND IT, I WAS SAYING THAT THEY HAD, UM, FUNDING ACTUALLY FOR PROJECTS, BUT THIS IS REALLY MORE OF FUNDING FOR EDUCATION AND TECHNICAL SUPPORT, UM, NETWORKING, UM, AND HAVING A TEAM OF, UM, THEY'RE, THEY'RE CALLING IT A TEAM OF THREE TO FIVE REPRESENTATIVES THAT ARE ALL AFFORDABLE HOUSING CONNECTED.
SO I GUESS A REPRESENTATIVE FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY COULD BE, UH, AND, AND A CITY OFFICIAL AS WELL AS, UM, REPRESENTATION AND THAT THESE TEAMS WOULD MAKE CHAPEL MEET WITH THE OTHER TEAMS OVER A PERIOD OF 18 MONTHS IF OUR APPLICATION IS ACCEPTED.
AND THEY WOULD FUND THE TRAVEL, UH, THE PROJECT MANAGER OR POINT OF CONTACT FOR THE TEAM, AND THEN THE DEVELOPMENT OF A SMALL PILOT PROJECT, SO THEY SPECIFICALLY SAY SMALL.
UM, SO THAT WAS WHAT I GLEANED FROM THIS WEBINAR.
THAT, AND THERE WERE A LOT OF ATTENDEES TODAY, 49 ATTENDEES.
SO A LOT OF INTEREST THROUGHOUT THE STATE, UM, OR EVEN SOME FOLKS FROM WESTERN PART STATE THAT ACTUALLY,
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SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE DEVELOP COMMISSION MAY WANT TO DISCUSS WHETHER HE WANTS TO BE OUT THERE AND, YOU KNOW, WITH THESE OTHER GROUPS STATEWIDE THAT ARE GONNA BE, UM, BASICALLY, I GUESS, UM, FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.UM, AND THEN I'M ALSO IN LOOKING AT THE RAISE GRANT, UM, THAT HAD WE DISCUSSED THAT AS A POSSIBILITY FOR SOME INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, UM, IN TRAILS STREETSCAPE, UM, THAT SORT OF THING IN THE
UH, AGAIN, UH, I THINK THAT THE CITY MAY NEED TO BE THE APPLICANT, UM, FOR, FOR GRANT.
AND THOSE ARE DUE JANUARY 13, UM, 2025.
SO NOFO IS NOT ACTUALLY OUT YET WHAT THEY DID HAVE.
SO, AND THAT, YOU KNOW, MILLIONS, UM, YOU CAN REQUEST MILLIONS OF DOLLARS.
I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE CEILING IS.
IT'S, IT'S LARGE, IT'S LIKE 26 MILLIONS.
SO, UM, THAT ANOTHER, THAT'S ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY.
SO THAT'S WHAT I HAVE RIGHT NOW, UM, FOR LOOKING AT I IN THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS? UM, JUST SINCE IT'S THE LAST ONE YOU SPOKE OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE, I FORGET THE NAME, NAME OF IT.
UM, THE RAYS RA IAE, IT'S RAYS, UM, TRUCTURE BILL.
THE FUNDING CAME THROUGH THAT YOU SAID THAT HAS TO COME THROUGH THE CITY.
THE APPLICATION IS MORE THAN THAT TO COME THROUGH THE CITY.
UM, I CONFIRMED IT, IT IT WILL HAVE IT, IT WILL HAVE TO BE A CITY GRANT AND IT WILL PROBABLY BE A COLLABORATION IF, IF AT ALL.
UM, AND SO THE, THE GOVERNING BOARD WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE, UM, OUR PARTICIPATION IN THAT AS IT'S SUCH A HUGE GRANT.
SO IT, IT WOULD BE A VERY, VERY, UH, IT, IT WOULD BE A PROCESS IF WHAT MY, WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST.
I APPRECIATE YOU COMING TONIGHT.
WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST IS IF ANYTHING YOU'VE HEARD TONIGHT IS OF INTEREST OR YOU WANT MORE INFORMATION, UH, FOLLOW UP WITH WITH ME AND, AND, UH, MS. SHIELDS AND I CAN MEET WITH YOU ALL SO THAT WE HAVE, UH, WE CAN TAKE STEPS AND BRING BACK A PROPOSAL NEXT MONTH, UH, TO, TO THE COMMISSION AS A WHOLE.
ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE REASONS I ASKED MS. SHIELDS TO BE HERE TONIGHT IS JUST TO DEMONSTRATE THE COMPLEXITIES OF A COMMISSION LIKE OURS.
WE'RE NOT QUITE A 1 5 0 1 C3 AND WE'RE NOT QUITE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT, AND SO WE FIT INTO A REALLY GRAY AREA, UH, IN, IN, IN, IN, IN THE GENERAL STATUTE.
AND SO BEING ABLE TO GO FOR GRANTS AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS IS A LITTLE BIT COMPLEX AND IT WILL TAKE SOME WORK.
UM, BUT IF, IF, UH, ANY OF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN WORKING WITH MS. SHIELDS, I KNOW THAT SHE'S EAGER, UH, AND SHE'S BEEN DOING A LOT OF WORK AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT HER WORK TONIGHT.
AND UH, THAT WILL CONCLUDE MY STAFF REPORT, UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS.
GUESS, UH, WHEN YOU TRAVEL, EVENTUALLY YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GO THERE.
BUT WHEN YOU TRAVEL TO THE UH, COMMERCE DEPARTMENT IN RALEIGH, MAKE SURE YOU COME TO THE FIFTH FLOOR.
AS SOON AS YOU SAID, I SEE THEM JOKERS ALL THE TIME, SO AS SOON AS SHE SAID COMMERCE, I'M LIKE, THERE IT IS.
I DON'T THINK WE HAVE ANYTHING TO GO INTO.
CLOSED SESSION FOUR, DO WE? NO, MA'AM.
ALRIGHT, SO WE NEED A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
WE GOTTA DO BUSINESS SO FAST, BUT YEAH, I WOULD LIKE TO PROPOSE THAT WE CREATE A WORKING TEAM OR WHATEVER WE CALL 'EM, TO DO AN ANALYSIS OF ALL OF THE LAND THAT ALL OF OUR OWNERSHIP AND PUT IT ON A SPREADSHEET.
I MEAN, WE TALK ABOUT OUR LOTS SCATTERED ALL OVER THE PLACE AND EVERYTHING, AND WHAT LAND WE OWN, WHAT WE DON'T, SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A, A RESOURCE TO LOOK AT WHEN QUESTIONS COME UP ABOUT SOMEBODY WANTING TO BUY IT OR NOT.
ANYTHING WHERE WE CAN TALK ABOUT, IS IT THE FLOODPLAIN? WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT, IS IT A DEVELOPABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY? IS IT, IS
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IT THE BEGINNING PIECE OF OTHERS THAT WE COULD ACQUIRE TO MAKE A DEVELOPABLE PIECE OF PROPERTY? BUT TO LOOK AT, LOOK AT OUR OWNERSHIP STRATEGICALLY AND, AND BRING THAT REPORT BACK TO THE STRATEGIC PLAN SO THAT AS WE PLAN FOR THE FUTURE, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT LAND OWNERSHIP WE HAVE AND WHAT ITS VALUE IS FOR WHAT EV FOR VARIOUS AND SUNDRY USES, UH, TO HELP FURTHER OUR, OUR VISION IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.JUST, JUST AS A POINT OF ORDER.
UM, THAT WOULD BE A NEW BUSINESS ITEM AND FOR CONSISTENT TREATMENT OF EVERYBODY.
IF WE HAVE NEW BUSINESS THAT WASN'T SUBMITTED PREVIOUSLY, I WOULD ASK THAT, THAT GET SUBMITTED FOR NEW BUSINESS NEXT MONTH.
WHAT I MIGHT SUGGEST THOUGH IS THAT YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THE SELLABLE LIST AS IT'S ACTUALLY SET UP NOW.
IT CURRENTLY HAS MINIMUM BID, UH, WHICH IS 75% OF THE TAX ASSESSED VALUE.
IT HAS THE FLOOD PLAN AS WELL AS A LINK TO THE MAP.
SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THAT LIST, WHICH IS ON THE CURRENT WEBSITE, AND BRING BACK, UH, THAT PROPOSAL FOR A PROJECT TEAM WITH ANY ADDITIONAL THINGS, UH, TO GET READY FOR STRATEGIC PLAN, I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GOOD THING TO DO.
SO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
YOU HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.
THANK YOU VERY MUCH COMMISSIONERS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT.