* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. ALL, [00:00:01] EVERYBODY READY? UH, CALL, UH, WELCOME EVERYONE. I CALLED A ORDER THE THURSDAY, OCTOBER 17TH, [I. CALL TO ORDER] NEW CITY OF NEW BERN PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD MEETING. UH, WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE RISE AND JOIN ME FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE? I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC, WHICH WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. KENDRICK. CAN WE HAVE A, UH, ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN, UH, FIRST FOR BOARD MEMBER KYLE DEER HERE. BOARD MEMBER DANIELLE PEES. HERE. BOARD MEMBER KIP PARAGO. HERE, CHAIRMAN. BRAD JEFFERSON. HERE. BOARD MEMBER RUSTY INGRAM. HERE. BOARD MEMBER KELLY KAISER? HERE. AYE. DON. BOARD MEMBER THOMAS BROWNELL HERE. AND BOARD MEMBER MARSHALL BALLER. HERE. HERE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MR. CHAIRMAN, WE DO HAVE A QUORUM. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU KENDRICK. UH, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO [IV. APPROVE AGENDA] APPROVE THE AGENDA. I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS IS SECOND, UH, A MOTION AND SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. A ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES. UM, BRIEFLY [V. CHAIRMAN’S REMARKS ] FOR, UM, CHAIRMAN REMARKS, I GOT A COUPLE THINGS ON THE LANE USE ORDINANCE, UM, CONSULTANT CHAD MEADOWS COMING BACK TO NEWBURN ON OCTOBER 29TH AND 30TH. IT'S GOT OFFICE HOURS ON THE 29TH FROM TWO TO SIX AND THE 30TH TO FROM ONE TO FOUR. UM, IF ANYONE WOULD LIKE TO MEET WITH HIM ON THIS BOARD OR IN PUBLIC, PLEASE CALL 2 5 2 6 3 9 7 5 8 5 AND MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. UM, THEY'RE ALSO DOING AN OPEN HOUSE ON THE 30TH FROM FOUR TO 6:00 PM AND THAT'S AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AT, UH, 3 0 3 FIRST STREET. UM, AND YOU ALL THAT INFORMATION IS ON RE NEWBURN.COM. THEY ALSO HAVE UPDATED THAT WEBSITE WITH THE, UM, DOCUMENTS FROM HIS LAST TIME HERE. THE ANNOTATED OUTLINE, IT'S ABOUT 145 PAGES OF AN OUTLINE. UM, IT'S NOT TECHNICAL DOCUMENTS, BUT IT'S HOW THE LAND USE ORDINANCE IS GONNA LOOK. SO IT'S, IT'S, IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT. IT HAS THE STEERING COMMITTEE PRESENTATION THAT I SAT THROUGH. UM, A LOT OF INFORMATION IN THERE AND THERE. TRIP NOTES, WHICH I'VE FOUND TO BE VERY THOROUGH. UM, A LOT OF THE STUFF IN THERE THAT'S KINDA INTERESTING. UM, SO THAT CONCLUDES, UH, MY CHAIRMAN REMARKS IN THE LAND USE ORDINANCE. UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE ACTION ITEMS, UM, UNLESS THERE'S ANY OTHER BUSINESS THAT NEEDS TO BE IN FRONT OF THE BOARD, MR. DEAR, UH, I ASKED THE BOARD TO, UH, ALLOW ME TO ACCUSE ME FROM VOTING ON THIS MATTER DUE TO MY CONFLICT OF INTEREST. SO WE'LL NEED A MOTION FROM ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE BOARD AND THEN A SECOND TO ALLOW MR. DARING TO RECUSE HIMSELF. FROM THIS MEETING, I'M MAKE THE MOTION THAT WE ALLOW MR. DEARIN TO RECUSE HIMSELF. I HAVE A MOTION TO HAVE A SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. ANY MORE DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. KYLE, CAN YOU HAVE A SEAT IN THE AUDIENCE PLEASE? LIKE LAST TIME? THANK YOU SIR. ALRIGHT. UM, AND WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM, UH, [VI.A. Tyler Home on the Lake Ph 2 & 3, (General Plan - PUD) (SUBMAJ-002932-2024) Parcel Identification Numbers: 8-223-003, 8-223-004, 8-223-25000 & 8-223-25001 Acreage: 20.78 Current Zoning: Residential 10A (R-10A) Proposed Lots: 141 Location: Adjacent to Gracie Farms Road and Washing Post Road Property Owners: Stars & Stripes 4F, LLC Applicant: John G. Thomas, PE, Owner/Principal Engineer, Thomas Engineering, PA] SO SIX A. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT OF BACKGROUND BEFORE KENDRICK MAKES HIS, UH, PRESENTATION. UH, UH, THE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD TONIGHT INCLUDE APPROVING GENERAL FINAL SUBDIVISION PLOTS. UH, SEVEN MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD ARE APPOINTED BY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN. THEY MUST RESIDE IN THE CITY. ONE MEMBER IS APPOINTED BY THE CRAVEN COUNTY BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND RESIDES WITHIN THE CITY'S EXTRATERRITORIAL PLANNING AREA. THIS BOARD IS AN ADVISORY AUTHORITY TO THE BOARD OF ALDEN. THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN ACTS AS ITS LEG IN ITS LEGISLATIVE CAPACITY AND FOLLOWS VOTING PROCEDURES AS PART OF OFFICIAL MEETINGS. THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN IS NOT BOUND BY THE RECOMMENDATIONS OF THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD. OUR ACTIONS, THIS E THE ACTION ITEMS THIS EVENING, WE'LL HAVE A STAFF REPORT. WE WILL THEN TAKE PUBLIC COMMENT LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, AND THEN WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT REMARKS THE ORDER AND PUBLIC, UM, COMMENT PROTOCOL REFLECTS THE BOARD'S RECENT ADOPTED RULES OF PROCEDURE. SO, UH, INTRODUCING THIS ITEM, TYLER HOLMES ON LATE PHASE TWO AND THREE GENERAL PLAN, PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS ITEM FALLS UNDER MAJOR SUBDIVISION GENERAL AND FINAL PLAT APPROVALS. THE BOARD HAS THE DECISION TO APPROVE THE ACTION. REFLECTING THE PLAN SATISFIES THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S LAND USE ORDINANCE OR DENY THE ACTION INDICATING THE PLAN FAILS TO SAT, SATISFY THE TECHNICAL REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY'S LAND USE ORDINANCE. [00:05:01] IF THE BOARD FINDS THE PLA OR PROPOSED SUB SUBDIVISION FAILS TO COMPLY WITH ONE OR MORE REQUIREMENTS OF THE CITY LAND USE ORDINANCE, THE MOTION MUST STATE THE DEFICIENCY AND THE BASIS OF WHICH THE PROPOSED SUB PETITION COULD BE APPROVED. SO KENDRICK, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO YOU FOR YOUR STAFF BRIEF. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN. AND GOOD EVENING TO THE BOARD. AND MR. CHAIRMAN, UM, FOR OUR ONLY ITEM HERE TONIGHT, THIS IS TYLER HOME ON THE LAKE PHASES TWO AND THREE. THIS IS THE GENERAL PLAN AND THIS IS KNOWN AS A PUD OR PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS FOR SUBDIVISION, OR EXCUSE ME, MAJOR SUBDIVISION 0 0 2 9 3 2, UH, 2024. AND THE REQUEST SUMMARY HERE. THE APPLICANT IS JOHN G. THOMAS, UH, PE OWNER SLASH PRINCIPAL ENGINEER, UH, THOMAS, ENGINEERING PA, AND THE OWNER IS STARS AND STRIPES FOUR FLLC. AND THE LOCATION HERE IS OFF OF, UH, LAKE TYLER DRIVE IN NEWBURG, NORTH CAROLINA. THE EXISTING ZONING IS RESIDENTIAL 10 A OR R DASH 10 A AND THE SIZE HERE IS 20 POINT 78. UH, TOTAL ACRES OVERVIEW. UM, THE PROPOSED PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT IS FOR 141 SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED UNITS. UH, THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE CURRENTLY ZONED AS RESIDENTIAL 10 A AND THIS IS ESSENTIALLY AN ESTABLISHED ZONING DISTRICT WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW BERNS LAND USE ORDINANCE. THE PURPOSE FOR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS IS TO ACCOMMODATE, UH, FOR COMFORTABILITY HEALTH AND SAFETY IN A PLEASANT ENVIRONMENT FOR WHICH TO LIVE. THE FIRST HERE IS THE VICINITY MAP AND BASICALLY THE PARCELS THAT YOU SEE, WHICH INDICATE THE DIFFERENT PARCEL NUMBERS THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THE ITEM ARE HIGHLIGHTED IN RED. THAT'S FOLLOWED BY OUR BUFFER MAP. WE TAKE A A HUNDRED FOOT, UH, BUFFER SURROUNDING THE DIFFERENT PROPERTY LINES TO MEET THE NOTICE REQUIREMENTS PER THE LAND USE ORDINANCE. AND HERE IS THE AERIAL MAP. UM, THIS IS, AGAIN, I KNOW A BIT CLOUDED, BUT UH, ONCE AGAIN IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AND BASICALLY JUST REFLECTING WHAT'S ON THE GROUND. AND THAT'S FOLLOWED, UH, BY THE ACTUAL ZONING MAP HERE, WHICH AGAIN IS GONNA REFLECT THAT R DASH 10 A ZONING DISTRICT. AND, UH, HERE IS THE SITE PLAN THAT HAS BEEN REVISED. AND AS YOU'LL PROBABLY REMEMBER MR. CHAIRMAN INTO THE BOARD, THERE WAS A MINOR CONCERNS THAT WERE EXPRESSED FROM PUBLIC WORKS. THE APPLICANT HAS SINCE THEN MADE THESE DIFFERENCES OF CONVERSATIONS WITH PUBLIC WORKS. A RESPONSE FROM PUBLIC WORKS WAS RECEIVED PRIOR TO THIS MEETING TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL CONCERNS. THEY CAME BACK, BUT THERE WAS NO ADDITIONAL COMMENT. SO, AND FOR STAFF'S EVALUATION, UH, KIND OF SEGUES INTO THAT PROPOSED SUBDIVISION MEETS ALL REQUIREMENTS SET FORTH IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN, NEW BERN'S LANE USE ORDINANCE, AND ALL COMMENTS FROM THE DEPARTMENTAL REVIEW COMMITTEE HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED. AND I WILL STOP IT HERE AT THE SITE PLAN, BUT IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME. BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? SO AT THE LAST MEETING, THE THE ISSUE WAS PARKING AND THE WAY THE PARKING WAS SITUATED. UM, AND DID THAT VIOLATE THE CITY ORDINANCE? SO ARE YOUR COMMENTS, UH, ABOUT THE, THE FACT THAT PUBLIC WORKS HAS NOW BEEN SATISFIED? DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE PARKING HAS BEEN WORKED OUT BETWEEN THE CITY AND THE APPLICANT? YES, SIR. AND WE HAVE NO ISSUES WITH POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS OF ORDINANCES AND EVERYTHING LOOKS GOOD? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. THEY CHANGED THE PARKING TO BE PARALLEL AS WHAT WAS KIND OF SPOKEN FROM THE PREVIOUS MEETING. RIGHT. TO MAKE SURE TO IN, IN ESSENCE ACCOMMODATE FOR WHAT PUBLIC WORKS WAS, WAS EXPRESSING AS A CONCERN. GOT IT. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. YES, SIR. MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, SIR. UH, KENDRICK, WHEN THEY CHANGED THE PARKING FROM AL TO, UH, PARALLEL, HOW MANY, HOW MUCH PARKING DID WE LOSE? SO I DON'T HAVE A DEFINITIVE NUMBER ON THE EXACT AMOUNT, BUT I CAN TELL YOU THERE WAS SOME PARKING LOSS. HOWEVER, THEY WEREN'T NECESSARILY REQUIRED. THEY WERE MEETING THE PARKING CALCULATION IN ACCORDANCE TO WHAT THE LAND USE ORDINANCE WAS EXPECTING. OKAY. SO IN, IN THEORY YOU DIDN'T LOSE ANY PARKING. THEY JUST TRIED TO ALLOW FOR ADDITIONAL PARKING AT THE EXPRESS CONCERN OF PUBLIC WORKS. OKAY. SO TO CLARIFY, IT, IT MEETS THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS OF THE ZONING THAT IT HAS. THAT'S CORRECT, YES, SIR. AND THE PLAN UNIT DEVELOPMENT? YES, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE. THANK YOU SIR. UM, WITH THIS, THE PEOPLE THAT JUST SHOWED UP, DO EITHER ONE OF YOU WANNA MAKE A PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS MATTER? [00:10:01] NO. OKAY. UM, THEN WE'LL MOVE INTO THE APPLICANT IF THE APPLICANT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK. MAKE ANY COMMENTS? I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO ADD FROM LAST TIME. UM, WHAT WE DID, AS YOU PROBABLY HEARD, WHICH I DIDN'T HERE, AND THIS IS NOT GOOD IN THIS ROOM AND I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, BUT WE TOOK, GOT RID OF THE ANGLE PARKING AND WE MADE EVERYTHING PARALLEL PARKING AS PART OF THAT. WE LOST TWO THIRDS OF THE PARKING THAT WE HAD HOPE THAT WE WOULD GET IN THERE, BUT, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DID. I DON'T KNOW THAT THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO PURSUE THE ANGLE PARKING AT THIS POINT. WE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT THAT, BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE IT FOR THIS PROJECT AND I'LL BE GLAD TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. UM, IF YOU WANNA CALL ME BACK UP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. THOMAS. ALRIGHT. UM, WITH THAT I'LL MOVE TO ANY DELIBERATIONS FROM THE BOARD ON THIS ITEM. DO WE NEED A CONSISTENCY STATEMENT FOR THIS? NO, SIR. NO, SIR. OKAY. THEN I, I MOVE, WE APPROVE THE, THE PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT, THE APPLICATION AS PRESENTED. I HAVE A MOTION. I HAVE A SECOND. SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION. AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIED. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE ON TO NEW BUSINESS. UH, [VII. NEW BUSINESS] IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS FROM ANY MEMBERS OF THE BOARD? MR. CHAIR AT THIS TIME IF YOU'D LIKE TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO, UH, OH, REINSTATE MR. DEARING? YES. THANK YOU JAMIE. I MOVE, WE REINSTATE KYLE. BACK TO OUR DE SECOND. THAT ALL MOTION AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING DONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. COME RIGHT ON. BACK UP KYLE. THANK YOU. CATCH MS. . UM, AND WITH THAT, IS THERE ANY NEW BUSINESS FROM THIS BOARD ON ANY THING THAT THEY WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP? NO. ANY, NONE. UM, I'LL MOVE [VIII.STAFF COMMENTS] ON TO STAFF, STAFF, COMMENTS, STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS? DECISION? UH, YES. MR. CHAIRMAN, JUST A MINOR COMMENT, BUT, UM, BASICALLY JUST TO KIND OF PREP YOU ALL FOR THE NEXT MEETING HERE, WHICH IS ON NOVEMBER 14TH, WE DO HAVE A BIT OF A, UM, AGENDA. SO THERE'S PROBABLY ROUGHLY ABOUT FIVE ITEMS, MAYBE EVEN SIX ITEMS. WONDERFUL. UM, SO GENERAL, TWO GENERAL PLANS, TWO FINAL PLATS, AND THEN ALSO A REZONING. SO JUST KIND OF GIVING THE BOARD, UH, AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S COMING. OKAY. SO THAT'S FOR NOVEMBER 14TH, UM, FOR NEXT MONTH. SO, AWESOME. AND TWO OF THOSE, WELL, FOUR OF THOSE ITEMS, UM, ARE A GENERAL PLAN AND A FINAL PLAN THAT ARE TOGETHER. SO THEY'RE THE SAME SUBDIVISION. I KNOW WE HAVEN'T DONE THAT SINCE PROBABLY LAST YEAR WHERE IT WOULD GO STRAIGHT FROM A GENERAL TO A FINAL. UH, BUT THEY'RE MINOR SUBDIVISIONS, SO THEY'VE ELECTED TO PROCEED THIS WAY. OKAY. ALRIGHT. DOES UM, ANY BOARD MEMBER HAVE ANY STAFF QUESTIONS? NO. UM, QUICK QUESTION ABOUT THE RE NEWBURN EFFORT. UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING FOCUS GROUPS. DO WE KNOW IF THAT'S GONNA BE PART OF THIS NEXT VISIT OR IF THOSE DATES HAVE BEEN SET? THAT IS CORRECT, YES. WE'LL HAVE, UH, TWO GROUPS EACH DAY. UM, AND ONE OF THE GROUPS IS FOR THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY. ANOTHER GROUP IS FOR THE, UH, UH, REALTORS OF THE COMMUNITY. ANOTHER IS JUST A GENERAL GROUP WHERE ANYBODY CAN POP IN TO MAKE THOSE CONTRIBUTIONS. UH, AND THEN THE LAST GROUP IS FOR, UH, HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UH, AREA RESIDENTS WHO WANT TO PARTICIPATE. SO WE'LL GET, UH, HOPEFULLY A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THEM. UH, A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WERE ON THAT PARTICULAR LIST HAVE CONFIRMED THAT THEY WILL ATTEND. OKAY. HOW ARE THOSE INVITATIONS GOING OUT? UH, THEY ARE BY EMAIL. UH, ALSO THAT INFORMATION, UH, IF, IF ANYBODY FROM THE PUBLIC WANTS TO PARTICIPATE IS ON THE WEBSITE, UH, AND THAT DOES LINK TO AN EMAIL TO ME. SO IF THEY REACH OUT ON THE WEBSITE, THAT EMAIL COME TO ME AND I CAN SET THEM UP EITHER WITH OFFICE HOURS OR TO BE PART OF, UH, A FOCUS GROUP. OKAY. AND IF ANY OF US WANTED TO, UH, SIT IN THE ROOM AND OBSERVE THOSE, WOULD THAT BE ALRIGHT? UM, YEAH. THERE, THERE SHOULD BE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY OBSERVATIONS FROM, FROM MEMBERS OF THE BOARD IF THEY WANTED TO ATTEND. OKAY. THANK YOU. MM-HMM, . ALL RIGHT. I WANNA ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN. I MOVE. WE ADJOURN A SECOND. I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. WE ADJOURN. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.