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LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MAYOR LIVE.[1. Call to order and Welcome]
OH, WELCOME.I APPRECIATE EVERYBODY BEING HERE, GIVING THIS YOUR TIME AND YOUR ENERGY.
SO WITH THIS, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO ORDER THE REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FOR APRIL.
UM, MR. HUFF, CAN WE HAVE A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? ABSOLUTELY.
[3. Consider Approving the Agenda]
ORDER OF BUSINESS IS OUR AGENDA FOR THE EVENING.HOPE EVERYBODY'S HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT.
UM, IF THERE'S NO EXCEPTIONS, CAN I GET A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA? APPROVE THE AGENDA.
MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.
ALL OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES.
AND WE WILL MOVE FORWARD WITH THE AGENDA AS IT IS PRESENTED.
[4. Consider Approving Minutes (March)]
NEED TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES FROM OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH WAS IN MARCH.THEY WERE ALSO IN YOUR PACKET.
UM, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS THAT PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS OR ANY CHANGES? AND IF NOT, CAN I HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THOSE MEETING MINUTES? SO MOVED.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A DOUBLE SECOND.
SO UNLESS THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION, UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
AND ALL OPPOSED? SO THE MEETING MINUTES FROM MARCH ARE ALSO APPROVED.
[5. Mission Statement and Guiding Principles]
IN TIME, OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO READ OUR MISSION STATEMENT AND OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.TONIGHT I'M GONNA READ THE MISSION STATEMENT AND THEN I'M GOING TO SEND IT YOUR WAY FOR THE, OUR GOALS, OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
SO OUR MISSION STATEMENT IS THE NEWBURN REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION LEADING THE WAY FOR COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT BY DIRECTLY ADDRESSING COMMUNITY NEEDS IN THE VITAL AREAS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO AN ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND PUBLICLY DRIVEN PROCESS.
PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE, EQUAL TIME, RESPECT OTHERS' OPINIONS, LISTEN TO BUILD CONSENSUS.
DO YOU HAVE YOURS, MR. DILLON? SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION.
SO NOW WE HAVE, UH, THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE HAVE FOUR MINUTES FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.
IF THERE IS SOMEONE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING.
ARE YOU HERE TO SPEAK OR JUST ATTEND
[7.a. Residential Energy Efficiency Program Proposal]
ONE IS HERE TO SPEAK.WE WILL LOOK THEN AT ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, WHICH IS NEW BUSINESS.
AND THAT IS THE RESIDENTIAL ENERGY EFFICIENCY PROGRAM PROPOSAL.
UM, DO YOU WANNA EXPLAIN IT, DEB, OR DO YOU WANT ME TO GIVE A ACTUALLY COMMISSIONER MORGAN IS, UH, GOING TO, UH, GIVE A LITTLE PRESENTATION TO THE, UH, TO THE COMMISSION.
UM, AND, UH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL MOVE THE FLOOR TO COMMISSIONER MORGAN.
AND I AM, I I WILL BE COGNIZANT OF THE TIME.
GOOD EVENING CHAIR, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS AND MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC.
I'D LIKE TO PRESENT A PROPOSAL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION.
A RESIDENT ENERGY EFFICIENT PROGRAM EFFICIENCY PROGRAM, WHICH I BELIEVE SHOULD BECOME AN OFFICIAL INITIATIVE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION FUNDED THROUGH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT PROGRAM.
THIS INITIATIVE IS DESIGNED TO SUPPORT LOW TO MODERATE INCOME HOUSEHOLDS IN NEW BERN, BOTH HOMEOWNERS AND RENTERS BY REDUCING ENERGY BURDEN, IMPROVING HOME
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COMFORT, AND HELPING RESIDENTS MAKE INFORMED CHOICES ABOUT THEIR ENERGY USE.HERE'S HOW THE PROGRAM WOULD WORK.
WE WOULD HOLD TWO COMMUNITY EDUCATION SEMINARS LED BY THE CITY OF NEW BERN DEPARTMENTS TO TEACH PRACTICAL ENERGY SAVING STRATEGIES AND CONNECT RESIDENTS TO RESOURCES.
ATTENDEES OF THE SEMINAR WOULD BE ELIGIBLE FOR UP TO $500 IN MINOR ENERGY RELATED HOME REPAIRS OR UPGRADES.
WE AIM TO SERVE 75 HOUSEHOLDS IN THE FIRST YEAR.
THE KEY PROPOSED PARTNERSHIPS WOULD INCLUDE THE COMMUNITY, THE COASTAL COMMUNITY ACTION TO CONDUCT THE PROFESSIONAL ENERGY AUDITS FOR PARTICIPATING HOMES.
THE SECOND ONE WOULD BE HABITAT FOR HUMANITY.
THEY WOULD EXPLORE A WORKFORCE IMPLEMENTATION PARTNERSHIP FOR REPAIRS AND INSTALLATIONS.
THE THIRD WOULD BE CITY DEPARTMENTS, WHICH WOULD LEAD THE COMMUNITY EDUCATION AND OUTREACH EFFORTS.
THE TOTAL PROPOSED BUDGET FOR THE PROGRAM IS $40,000, COVERING AUDITS, REPAIRS, EDUCATION, AND THE ADMINISTRATION.
THIS EFFORT ALIGNS WITH OUR MISSION TO STRENGTHEN NEIGHBORHOODS, PROMOTE HOUSING STABILITY, AND REINVEST IN OUR LOCAL COMMUNITY.
I BELIEVE THIS PROGRAM WILL DELIVER MEASURABLE IMPACT, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE FACING HIGH ENERGY BILLS AND LIMITED ACCESS TO WEATHERIZATION SERVICES.
SO TODAY I'M SEEKING TWO THINGS.
THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMISSION TO ADOPT THIS AS AN OFFICIAL INITIATIVE ELIGIBLE FOR CDBG FUNDING.
AND NUMBER TWO, TO GAIN VOLUNTEERS FROM THIS BODY TO HELP FORM A PROJECT TEAM THAT WILL WORK WITH STAFF TO FINALIZE PROGRAM DESIGN, COORDINATE PARTNERSHIPS, AND PREPARE FOR IMPLEMENTATION.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION, AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND WELCOME YOUR SUPPORT.
THE ONE THING THAT I DO WANT TO REITERATE IS THAT IT USED TO BE FOR HOME OCCUPIED OWNERSHIP.
THIS NOW WILL APPLY TO RENTERS AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION.
THAT'S A LOT OF INFORMATION TO GIVE IN A BRIEF TIME.
LAYING THAT OUT SO CLEARLY FOR US.
WELL, I'M NOT GONNA SAY I HEARD ABOUT THIS GRANT WHERE IT COMING FROM DIRECTLY.
THE GRANT WOULD DIRECTLY BE COMING FROM, AND I'M GOING TO YIELD TO ZEV TO HELP ME OUT WITH, WITH THIS ONE TO MAKE SURE THAT I ANSWER IT WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S ANSWERED PROPERLY.
SO THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT IS UH, UH, A CITY ENTITLEMENT GRANT THAT THE CITY GETS.
AND SO BASICALLY THIS WOULD, UH, GIVE THE COMMISSION AUTHORIZATION TO APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS, UM, AND GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE AWARDED THOSE FUNDS.
AND SO THIS IS, UH, A REQUEST TO APPLY FOR THOSE FUNDS.
SO WE, WE WERE, WE WERE ASKING THE CITY, UH, CDBG.
BUT YOU HAVE THE COME BEFORE THE CITY COUNCIL MM-HMM
THIS WOULD BE PART OF THEIR ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR NEXT YEAR.
SO OUR PARTICIPATION IN THIS IS REQUESTING THAT THESE FUNDS THAT WE WOULD IMPLEMENT THIS AND BE IN CHARGE OF ORGANIZING, KIND OF WORKING WITH THE CITY, UM, STAFF FOR THIS PART OF THE PROJECT.
IT SOUND LIKE OTHER PEOPLE WOULD BE DOING THE ENERGY AUDITS AND THE CONSTRUCTION.
TO, TO USE SOME OLD HAT LANGUAGE.
WE WOULD BE THE MASTERMIND AND, AND THE COORDINATION BEHIND THE EFFORT.
UM, BUT WE WOULD, WE WOULD PUT EXPERTS TO WORK, UH, IN THEIR FIELD OF EXPERTISE, UH, TO CONDUCT EVERYTHING FROM, UH, ENERGY, UH, AUDITS TO DOING THE, UH, THE EDUCATION PIECES.
SO, UM, NO ONE AROUND THIS DAY IS, IS, UH, ENERGY EFFICIENCY EXPERT.
UH, I CERTAINLY AM NOT, UH, BUT WE HAVE STAFF, UH, THAT WORKS FOR THE CITY AND THEY DO A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB SERVING THE CITY.
AND THIS WOULD BE, UH, US PROVIDING A PLATFORM, UH, TO, FOR OUR RESIDENTS TO HAVE ACCESS TO OUR CITY STAFF THAT
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IS EXPERT, THAT HAS EXPERTISE IN THESE THINGS SO THAT THEY CAN GET REALLY GOOD EDUCATION TO BE EMPOWERED TO, TO TAKE BETTER CARE OF THEMSELVES.UM, AND IT'S INCENTIVIZED, UH, THROUGH CDBG FUNDS.
AND SO I, I ECHO, UH, COMMISSIONER MORGAN'S, UH, STATEMENTS.
IT'S, UH, IT IS A REALLY GOOD OPPORTUNITY AND I THINK IT HAS SOME REALLY GOOD BONES WITH THE RIGHT PROJECT TEAM BEHIND IT AND THE RIGHT PARTNERSHIPS, UH, DRIVING IT WELL.
WE HAVE OFTEN, UM, DISCUSSED HERE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE KNOWLEDGE TO HELP EDUCATION IN OUR REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARIES.
AND WE'VE REALLY NOT HAD, UM, THE RIGHT MEANS TO DO SO.
SO THIS SOUNDS LIKE IT'S A WAY FOR US TO PUT THAT INTO PLAY.
THIS WOULD ALSO BE ONE OF THE FIRST PROGRAMS THAT WILL PUT US IN DIRECT CONTACT WITH THE COMMUNITY AND, AND WITH, WITH SOME OF THOSE THAT NEED THIS SERVICE.
AND IT WILL PUT US INTO HOMES TO WHERE THEY CAN SEE WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS ACTUALLY DO IT.
YOU AND I, I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION.
WHAT TYPES STUDIES, UH, JUST A QUICK QUOTE, QUOTE HAS BEEN DONE ON THIS SINCE YOU'VE DONE SUCH A WELL PRESENTATION.
ONLY, WHAT I'VE DONE IS I HAVE WHERE DID YOU GET THAT INFO FROM AND WHAT CAN YOU DO WITH $500? THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING.
THE $500 WILL GO TOWARD UPGRADES AS IT RELATES TO THE AUDITS THAT HAVE COME BACK FROM THE, THE CITY WHERE THE CITY GOES IN.
AND WHEN THEY SEE THAT MAYBE SOME DOORS NEED TO BE LEVELED, SOME, UH, ADDITIONAL WEATHER STRIPPING SOME WINDOWS, THEY WILL MAKE THE DETERMINATION ON WHAT WILL HELP TO MAKE THE HOMES ENERGY EFFICIENT.
AND WHAT WE'RE STILL DOING IS, WE'RE STILL IN THE PLANNING PHASE OF, OF THIS, BUT WE DO KNOW THAT THE CITY WILL BE INSTRUMENTAL IN GOING INTO THE HOMES, AND THEY WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL BE MAKING THE DETERMINATION ON HOW TO MAKE THE HOMES ENERGY EFFICIENT.
AND THEN THEY WILL BRING IT BACK TO US.
AND THEN THAT'S WHEN WE, AM I CORRECT MR. HUFF? THAT'S WHEN WE WILL GO AND WE WILL RUN IT PAST THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO, TO MAKE, WELL, WE WILL ALREADY RUN IT MM-HMM
PAST THEM, BUT THE CITY, THEM THEMSELVES WILL DETERMINE ON UP TO $500 WHAT WOULD, WOULD BE ABLE TO BE DONE.
THERE'S A LOT THAT CAN BE DONE, UH, WITH WINTER, WITH WEATHERIZING A, UH, HOME AS IT RELATES TO SPENDING $500.
I DO WANT TO WAIT, MAKE ONE SMALL DISTINCTION AND, AND, AND IT IS AN IMPORTANT ONE JUST BECAUSE IT'S MATERIAL TO THE FUNDING.
SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PROPERTY REHAB, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING EQUITY INTO THE HOME, WHICH ADDS VALUE TO THE HOME, WHICH IN THE PAST IS WHY WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO HOUSING REHAB PROJECTS FOR RENTER OCCUPIED HOUSES.
BECAUSE LITERALLY THAT WOULD BE USING PUBLIC FUNDS TO, UH, TO INVEST IN SOMEONE ELSE'S PROPERTY WHO'S NOT LIVING THERE.
THESE ARE MINOR REPAIRS TO ENHANCE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PERSON LIVING IN THE HOUSE WITHOUT AFFECTING THE EQUITY OF THE HOUSE.
NOW CAN YOU ALSO EXPLAIN HOW IS IT NOW THAT WE'RE ABLE TO INCLUDE RENTERS AND NOT JUST THE OWNER OCCUPIED DWELLS? CORRECT.
BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE AFFECTING IS THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PERSON LIVING IN THE HOUSE.
SO WHEN WE, UH, SO TO YOUR POINT, WHEN WE ADD WEATHER STRIPPING AROUND, UH, AROUND A WINDOW, THEY'RE NOT, A LANDLORD IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO CHARGE MORE FOR RENT BECAUSE WE PUT WEATHER STRIPPING ON, ON A WINDOW.
HOWEVER, A UTILITY BILL WILL BE DECREASED AND A RENTER WON'T HAVE TO PAY THAT IN THEIR, IN THEIR UTILITY BILL.
AND SO THE ONLY PERSON WHO BENEFITS FROM THIS IS THE ACTUAL CONSUMER WHO IS WHO, WHO IS, UH, THE BENEFICIARY, WHO IS THE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME INDIVIDUAL, THE COST BURDEN INDIVIDUAL WHO WE'RE ALLOWED TO HELP BY GENERAL STATUTE.
DID I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY THAT THE PARTICIPANTS OF THE SEMINARS ARE THE ONLY ONES THAT WILL BE ELIGIBLE FOR THE UPGRADES? THAT'S CORRECT.
YOU MUST PARTICIPATE IN A YES.
THIS IS, UH, EDUCATIONAL SEMINAR TO GET THE UPGRADE FUNDING.
THIS MODEL IS AN EMPOWERMENT INCENTIVE INCENTIVE PROGRAM.
AND SO WITHOUT THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT, THERE'S NO SUSTAINABILITY THERE.
SO WE WANT, WE, WE DON'T WANT TO JUST PUT WEATHER STRIPPING ON PEOPLE ON, ON, ON PEOPLE'S WINDOWS.
WE WANT TO TEACH PEOPLE HOW TO SUSTAIN THESE
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PRACTICES SO THAT IT'S NOT JUST ONE UTILITY BILL THAT GETS BETTER, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY HOW TO, HOW, HOW TO, UH, BETTER UTILIZE, UH, YOUR UTILITIES LONG TERM.SO, AND I DO HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION.
NOW, ARE YOU A SPOKEPERSON, FOR EXAMPLE, OR THIS IS YOUR IDEA AND WHO DONE THE STUDIES AS FAR AS WHAT THE FOLKS WOULD ACTUALLY NEED? THIS WAS THE PROGRAM THAT WAS I'M
THIS WAS THE PROGRAM THAT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION AND THEN IT'S, UM, IN MY INFANCY IN IT.
I WAS NOT ORIGINALLY GOING TO MAKE THIS, UH, THIS PRESENTATION UNTIL I READ A LITTLE BIT MORE OVER IT.
UH, BUT I AM A PROPONENT OF IT IN TERMS OF TRYING TO, UH, HELP TO ALLURE THIS ENERGY BILL HERE IN THE CITY.
SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, NO, I HAVE NOT DONE THE HOMEWORK ON IT, BUT I WILL BE RESEARCHING IT AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE A PART OF HELPING TO, UH, BRING IT INTO FRUITION.
SO YOU, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE WANTING TO BE ON, ON THE PROJECT BOOTH IF WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS.
AND STEVE, YOU HAVE A QUESTION? UM, YES.
I'VE HEARD SOME REFERENCES TO A ANOTHER PROGRAM OF THE SORT THAT'S MORE HOME OWNER FOCUSED.
SO ARE WE PIGGYBACKING OFF OF THAT? ARE WE GONNA DO A STANDALONE STAND UP, OUR OWN VERSION OF THINGS? UH, THIS WOULD BE OUR OWN VERSION OF, UH, A PROGRAM, UH, THAT DOES EXIST ELSEWHERE.
UM, AND IT WOULD BE MORE ACCURATE TO SAY THAT WE'RE PIGGYBACKING OFF OF, UH, DUKE'S PROGRAM ACTUALLY.
UH, DUKE DOES A SIMILAR PROGRAM, UH, IN, IN, IN ITS, UH, IN ITS SERVICE AREA.
UM, SAME INCENTIVE, SAME, UH, SAME, SAME MODEL.
UH, AND IT IS BEEN VERY, VERY HELPFUL, UH, AND, AND VERY, VERY SUCCESSFUL.
SO WOULD WE BE TARGETING RENTERS IN THE EQUATION OR WOULD IT BE BOTH? OR COULD WE SOMEHOW SOME WAY IF WE GET OWNERS FUNNEL THEM INTO ANOTHER PROGRAM THAT'S ALREADY THERE? OR HOW WOULD THAT LOOK? I'M JUST TRYING TO, I MEAN, IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT, TRY TO MAXIMIZE DOLLARS IF THERE'S ALREADY A PROGRAM STOOD UP THAT WE COULD PIGGYBACK OFF OF, SAY IF THE CITY'S GOT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS, CAN WE STEER HOMEOWNERS INTO THAT AND WE HANDLE THE RENTERS IF THAT'S THE GOAL? UH, I'M NOT SURE.
SO I CAN'T SPEAK TO WHAT ELSE WILL BE, WILL BE IN, IN THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN FOR CDBG NEXT YEAR.
I'M, I'M ONLY, UH, I'M ONLY AWARE OF THIS PROGRAM.
I KNOW THAT, UH, REHAB, HOUSING REHAB HAS BEEN A PROGRAM OF CBBG IN THE PAST.
I DON'T KNOW AND CAN'T SAY WHETHER IT WILL BE IN THE FUTURE.
NOW THE, THE CBDG FUNDING, IS THIS AN AMOUNT THAT WOULD COME OUT OF THE PORTION THAT IS, I DON'T WANNA SAY EARMARKED FOR US, BUT HAS TENTATIVELY ALREADY BEEN EYEBALLED FOR US? OR IS THIS COMING FROM A DIFFERENT POT? UH,
WELL, CURRENT, CURRENT, I, I GUESS THE BEST WAY TO ANSWER THAT IS CURRENTLY WE HAVE NOT SOLD NINE 11 UBANK.
SO THERE IS NO EARMARKED FILE? NO, THERE'S NO FILE.
SO THIS WOULD, THIS WOULD BE THE ANNUAL ENTITLEMENT OKAY.
SO JUST THINKING THROUGH WHAT THINGS LOOK LIKE PROCESS WISE, WHO SPECIFICALLY IS GONNA BE IN CHARGE OF PICKING WHO GETS AWARDED A, HEY, WE'RE GONNA COME SPEND $500 ON YOUR HOUSE.
IS THAT GONNA BE MEMBERS OF THIS COMMISSION? IS IT GONNA BE FIRST COME, FIRST SERVED? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
I THINK WE ARE ALL AWARE OF THAT BY NOW,
UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA LEAVE CDBG EXPORTING TO THE CDBG EXPERTS.
AND, UH, CDBG STAFF WILL MONITOR THIS PROGRAM.
SHOULD, UH, SHOULD THEY ADOPT THIS PROGRAM, UH, SHOULD THEY AWARD THIS, UH, THE, THESE FUNDS TO THIS PROGRAM? WHAT HAPPENS IN AN ENERGY AUDIT IS A ENERGY AUDIT.
IT IS DONE AND A CHECKLIST IS GENERATED AND THEY SAY, HERE'S, HERE'S A PRIORITIZATION LIST OF WHAT WOULD HELP YOUR HOUSE BE ENERGY EFFICIENT.
HERE'S THE TOP 10 THINGS, AND THEN HERE'S WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO GET THE TOP 10 THINGS DONE.
AND IF YOU GO DOWN THAT LIST AND UP TO $500, YOU HAVE TO SPEND, YOU CAN PICK YOU, YOU CAN PICK OFF OF THAT LIST WHAT YOU WANT DONE, AND THEN YOU CAN WORK WITH THE PARTNER WHO DOES THE WORK, CLEAR THAT WITH CDBG, THE PARTNER WHO DOES THE WORK, WILL DO THE WORK, AND THEN CDBG WILL COME IN TO MAKE SURE THE WORK IS
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DONE, THEREFORE THEIR MONITORING IS DONE.AND THEN THEY'LL REIMBURSE THE PARTNER WHO DID THE WORK, AND THEN THE CASE IS CLOSED.
SO EVERY PERSON WHO COMES TO THE SEMINAR UP TO 75 HOUSEHOLDS.
UM, AND IF WE, IF WE TRACK PARTICIPATION, UH, EVEN GENERALLY CORRECTLY, WE'RE BEING PRETTY AMBITIOUS WITH 75 HOUSEHOLDS.
UM, BUT UP TO 75 HOUSEHOLDS, UH, $40,000 WILL GIVE US $500 PER HOUSEHOLD PRETTY EASILY.
SO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATES SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET UP TO $500, UH, A $500 AWARD.
ANY, JUST THINKING THROUGH SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM RENTERS IN THE AREA IN GENERAL.
IS THERE SOMETHING IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THERE ARE NO UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES FROM A CITY STAFF MEMBER WALKING INTO A RENTAL DWELLING THAT MAY HAVE MUCH MORE SUBSTANTIAL ISSUES THAN WHAT A, A ENERGY EFFICIENT AUDIT WOULD DISCOVER THAT THIS, WE CAN ENSURE THESE PEOPLE CAN BE PROMISED THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE OUT OF AN APARTMENT BECAUSE IT'S CONDEMNED BECAUSE OF X, Y, Z BEING WRONG WITH IT? WHAT I, HOW I WOULD ANSWER THAT IS THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THE ENERGY AUDIT ARE NOT MINIMAL HOUSING, UH, INSPECTORS.
UH, THEY ARE NOT, UH, ORDINANCE OR NUISANCE AND ABATEMENT, UH, ENFORCERS.
THEY ARE, THEY ARE WEATHERIZATION ENERGY AUDIT PROFESSIONALS.
THEIR JOB IS TO COME IN AND TELL YOU WHAT WOULD, WHAT, WHAT IT WOULD TAKE TO MAKE YOUR HOUSE ENERGY EFFICIENT.
THEY'RE THERE TO DO A JOB, THEY WILL DO THE JOB AND THEY WILL LEAVE YOUR HOUSE.
I THINK YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO HAVE THAT SPEECH READY TO REPEAT SEVERAL TIMES AS THE PROCESS GOES FORWARD.
BELIEVE ME, I'M IN FAVOR OF CDPG DOING THE PAPERWORK.
APPARENTLY THIS IS A MEETING I MISSED.
AND, UH, I'M SAYING THAT FOR THE SIMPLE REASON, LOOK LIKE EVERYTHING IS IN PLACE IN HALF WITH THAT $500 DETERMINE.
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK CAN BE DONE FOR THAT $500 WITH IT BEING LABORED OUT TO SOMEONE? I'M IN A REALISTIC WORLD AND, UH, MAYBE I'M OUTTA LINE, BUT THE QUESTION, I KNOW WHAT YOU CAN DO $500 WHEN IT COMES TO WHETHER SIZE, WHETHER RISES THE HOUSE.
SO WHERE DID THIS IDEA, WHERE DID IT BE? WHAT DID IT PRICE OTHER THAN WHAT, UH, MR. MORGAN DISCUSSED? I MEAN, WAS IT PREPLANNED? WAS IT DISCUSSED BEFORE? AND WE JUST BRING IT IN FOR, TO GET OUR, I GUESS OKAY.
OR ACTUALLY, WHERE DID IT COME FROM AND THE $500 COME FROM? MAYBE I'M OUTTA LINE, BUT I MEAN, AS AN, AS AN EXAMPLE, I PLEASE, AND I'M NOT GETTING THE ANSWERS OR THE THOUGHT THAT I HAVE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHO I NEED TO ADDRESS THAT TO.
MAYBE I ADDRESS IT TO THE BOARD SO THEY CAN ANSWER.
BUT I DON'T WANT EVERYBODY COMING AND SAY, OH, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHAT THIS IDEA COME FROM AND WHERE DID THE $500, WHERE WAS THAT DETERMINED? AND I KNOW, UH, TREND RIVER, THEY WAS, HAD THAT PROGRAM AND THEY WERE DOING ENERGY EFFICIENT HOUSES.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING, TWO OR THREE PEOPLE CAME UP WITH SOMETHING YOU CAME UP WITH, GONNA LET MR. MORGAN PRESENT IT.
AND DON'T THINK I'M NOT DOWN IN THE PROGRAM, BUT FOR $500, WHY COULDN'T IT BE A THOUSAND DOLLARS AND TRY TO GET MORE DONE TO THE HOUSE OTHER THAN MAYBE WEATHER STRIPPING TO RIDE CRAMMED IN THE CORNER.
AND I KNOW ACTUALLY WHAT $500 CAN DO TO A HOUSE.
I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT $500 CAN DO TO A HOUSE.
NOT MUCH, MR. DELE, YOU MAKE A GREAT POINT.
I, I WOULD SAY WHAT MR. UH, WHAT WHAT MR. MORGAN PROPOSED TO THE COMMISSION TONIGHT
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WAS A BARE BONES PROPOSAL.NOTHING AT ALL IS, IS WRITTEN IN STONE.
SO I I WHAT I WOULD SUGGEST IS IF YOU FEEL AS THOUGH YOU HAVE SOME EXPERTISE AND SOME KNOWLEDGE BASE IN THIS KIND OF A PROGRAM AND YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED, UH, WHAT I THINK I HEAR MADAM CHAIR IS MR. DILLA HUNT, UH, VOLUNTEERING TO BE ON THE PROJECT TEAM, UH, SO THAT HE CAN HELP FLESH OUT, UH, THIS PROJECT SO THAT WE HAVE A STRONGER PROPOSAL GOING TO CDBG SO THAT WE CAN BE EFFECTIVE IN THIS PROGRAM BEFORE.
AND I CAN CORRECT, I WOULDN'T JUST SAY, OKAY, I WANT TO GET INTO THE PROGRAM.
I WANT TO KNOW THE ROOTS OF THE PROGRAM.
WHERE DID YOU COME FROM? WHERE IS IT ORIGINATE FROM? UH, I'VE ALREADY ANSWERED THAT.
YOU ANSWERED THEM DIRECTLY WITH $500.
AND WHAT DO YOU THINK
THE DUKE CORPORATION DOES THE SAME EXACT PROGRAM IN THEIR SERVICE BASE.
I TOOK THEIR TEMPLATE AND UTILIZED IT FOR OUR PROPOSAL.
THIS IS THE SAME EXACT PROGRAM THAT IS WHERE IT COME FROM.
$500 IS WHERE IT IS, WHAT DUKE USES.
THAT IS WHAT I, THAT IS WHAT I READ.
I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SLOWER I CAN SAY IT OR HOW MUCH MORE DIRECT I CAN BE.
I'VE SAID THAT THREE TIMES NOW, SIR.
MADAM CHAIR, PERHAPS I CAN BE HELPFUL AS WELL AS I UNDERSTAND IT, I, I THINK SOME OF THE CONSTERNATION ABOUT THE $500 ALLOCATION IS REFLECTING UPON THE FACT THAT THE COST OF GOODS AND SERVICES IS INCREASING ALMOST DAILY, UM, IF NOT, UH, EVEN FASTER THAN THAT.
AND, AND I HEAR THAT PERHAPS MR. DILLA HUNT MAY HAVE SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW FAR THOSE RESOURCES WILL GO GIVEN THE CURRENT MARKET CONDITIONS.
SO I, I HAVE IT IN MY MIND AND I MIGHT BE INCORRECT AND MR. HUFF CAN CORRECT ME SURE.
THAT IT MIGHT BE IMPORTANT TO BEAR IN MIND WHAT THOSE FUNDS ARE ACTUALLY BEING UTILIZED FOR.
UM, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF PARTNERS THAT MAY BE INVOLVED IF THIS IS AN IDEA THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE.
AND THOSE PARTNERS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, MAY BE PROVIDING LABOR ASSOCIATED WITH THIS PROGRAM AT NO COST TO THE COMMISSION OR TO THE APPLICANT.
THAT'S WHAT I HAD IN MIND, CORRECT.
SO IF, IF THE COMMISSION IS NOT GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR LABOR COSTS AND THE ENTIRE ALLOCATION, WHATEVER YOU ALL DETERMINE IT TO BE, GOES TOWARDS MATERIAL COST, THEN THAT MIGHT HELP US HAVE A BETTER APPRECIATION FOR HOW THIS PROGRAM COULD PENCIL IN THE EVENT THAT YOU WANT TO CONTINUE TO EXPLORE THE IDEA, WHICH I THINK WHAT MR. MORGAN HAS ASKED FOR THIS EVENING IS WHETHER THE COMMISSION HAS ANY APPETITE FOR SUCH A PROGRAM.
IF THE ANSWER TO THAT IS YES, THEN I THINK HE'S ASKING FOR, UM, SOME OF HIS FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO WORK ALONGSIDE HIM TO FLESH OUT THIS CONCEPT.
ALL THE MORE, YOU ALL HAVE RAISED SOME GREAT QUESTIONS.
THERE ARE NO DOCUMENTS IN PLACE, THERE ARE NO MOUS, THERE ARE NO FORMAL AGREEMENTS WITH ANY OF THE PARTNER AGENCIES.
ALL OF THAT WORK WOULD BE UNDERTAKEN AFTER THIS MEETING IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY APPETITE TO MOVE FORWARD AT ALL.
AND THAT'S PRETTY MUCH EXACTLY WHAT MR. MORGAN WAS DOING.
MR. DILL HUNT RAISED SOME VERY GOOD QUESTIONS.
STEVE HAS ASKED SOME VERY GOOD QUESTIONS, AND THOSE WERE THINGS THAT I HAD NOT EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT SINCE I DID START READING IT.
BUT THE REASON WHY IT HAD BEEN BROUGHT UP, IT WAS NOT TO SAY, HEY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND IMPLEMENT THIS NOW.
IT WAS AS, UH, AS COUNSEL SAYS TO, LET'S SEE IF THE, UH, COMMISSIONERS HAVE AN APPETITE TO TAKE IT ANY FURTHER TO SEE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE VIABLE FOR US.
IT'D BE SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD HAVE AN APPETITE TO ENTERTAIN AND STILL, UH, I WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO HAVE THOSE QUESTIONS THAT STEVE ASKED TO BE ANSWERED AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE BEEN ANSWERED PROPERLY.
BECAUSE THOSE ARE ANSWERS THAT I DID NOT HAVE.
I MEAN, HAVE THOSE WERE QUESTIONS THAT I DIDN'T HAVE THE ANSWERS TO? MM-HMM
AND TO THAT END COUNSELOR, IS THIS AN ITEM THAT WE ARE SEEKING A RESOLUTION TO MOVE FORWARD WITH? OR ARE WE DIRECTING STAFF TO CONTINUE WORK? SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED COMMISSION INVOLVEMENT TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO WOULD THAT REQUIRE RESOLUTION? SO I, I DON'T THINK A RESOLUTION IS IN YOUR PACKAGE TONIGHT.
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UM, IS UNDERTAKE A VOTE TO SEE, YOU KNOW, IF, DO YOU WANT TO ESTABLISH A PROJECT TEAM TO FURTHER FLESH OUT THIS CONCEPT? IF YOU'RE, IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO ESTABLISH A PROJECT TEAM, THEN THAT WILL INDICATE, YES, WE WANT TO EXPLORE THIS, THIS OPPORTUNITY FURTHER.IF YOU'RE NOT INCLINED TO ESTABLISH A PROJECT TEAM, THEN A, A MAJORITY OF THE MEMBERS DON'T HAVE AN APPETITE FOR THE PROJECT.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION IS, AS IN TERMS OF A TIME LIMITATION, IS THIS, UH, SEEMS LIKE IT'S KIND OF A, UM, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE RELATIVELY QUICKLY, NOT A YEAR LONG PROCESS OF A, OF A TEAM.
MORGAN, I WOULD DEFER TO MR. HUFF ABOUT THE TIMELINE FOR THE, THE CDBG ANNUAL ACTION PLAN.
I KNOW THAT IS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD AND FROM MR. HUFF'S COMMENTS AND MR. MORGAN'S COMMENTS, I WOULD ASSUME THAT YOU WOULD WANT TO HAVE THIS PROJECT PRETTY WELL FLESHED OUT BEFORE THE ANNUAL ACTION PLAN IS PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
ADDITIONALLY, AS YOU ALL HAVE EXPERIENCED, UM, CDBG IS A, A VERY TENTACLE CREATURE.
SO YOU WANNA HAVE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THE CONSULTANTS AND CITY STAFF, UM, THAT ARE EXPERTS IN CDBG TO MAKE SURE THAT WHAT YOU ARE CONTEMPLATING WILL ACTUALLY WORK ON THE GROUND.
AND WE CUT, WE TRY TO ANTICIPATE AS MANY CURVE BALLS AS WE CAN AT THE OUTSET.
SO, ONCE AGAIN, THE TIMEFRAME, DO YOU HAVE AN IDEA OF WHEN THE ACTION PLAN WOULD NEED TO BE? YES.
SO CDBG IS MOVING FORWARD IN, IN FORMALIZING THEIR ACTION PLAN.
AND SO BEFORE OUR MAY, UH, BEFORE OUR MAY MEETING, WE WOULD CERTAINLY NEED TO KNOW IF THIS IS SOMETHING WE NEED, UH, WE WOULD WANT TO PURSUE.
WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THE NUTS AND BOLTS FIGURED OUT, UH, RIGHT NOW, BUT WE WOULD DEFINITELY WANT TO KNOW IF WE ARE, WE ARE APPLYING SO THAT WE COULD PUT FORTH A A PRETTY STRONG APPLICATION.
I HAVE, UH, I HAVE GIVEN A LETTER OF INTEREST, UH, TO CDBG, JUST LETTING THEM KNOW SO THAT WE COULD RUN UP, UH, RUN IT UP THE FLAGPOLE ON AN ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL TO SEE IF THIS WAS EVEN POSSIBLE SO THAT I'VE DONE ALL THE DUE DILIGENCE, UH, SO THAT WE CAN MAKE A PROPOSAL THAT WAS NOT POSSIBLE.
UH, SO WE HAVE RUN THIS UP THE FLAGPOLE.
UH, WE HAVE HEARD, WE, WE'VE SPOKEN TO CDBG STAFF AND, AND, AND CONSULTANTS.
UM, AND SO WE'RE PRETTY CERTAIN THAT THIS IS A VIABLE PROJECT, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT TO YOU ALL TONIGHT.
UH, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY I APPRECIATE STAFF, SORT OF, AND WHOEVER HELPED YOU IDENTIFY THIS IF IT WAS A BOARD MEMBER, BUT FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND AND THINKING OUTSIDE THE BOX, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A, AS YOU SAID, EMPOWERMENT INCENTIVE MODEL TO HELP, YOU KNOW, RENTERS, WHICH IS NOT SOMEBODY WE'VE HISTORICALLY BEEN ABLE TO HELP.
UM, I'M PRETTY DISAPPOINTED BY THE HOSTILITY OF MR. DHAN IN PARTICULAR TOWARDS THE PROGRAM.
IT, IT SEEMS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING IF IT'S NOT THIS BIG NUMBER, IF IT'S NOT ENOUGH, THEN WHAT? WHY EVEN BOTHER? WHY WASN'T I TOLD ABOUT THIS? THAT'S A REALLY NEGATIVE ATTITUDE TO HAVE TOWARDS SOMETHING.
WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE HELPING PEOPLE, BUT WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ADD EQUITY TO THEIR HOME.
SO I, I REALLY DIDN'T APPRECIATE THE HOSTILITY TOWARDS STAFF AND EVERYTHING ELSE.
AND I THINK THIS IS GRAYDEN WOULD FULLY SUPPORT IT.
THANK YOU MR. I DIDN'T SAY THAT FOR YOU TO APPRECIATE IT.
THAT WAS MY OPINION AND I'M PRETTY SURE YOU JUST SPEAKING YOUR OPINION, SO WATCH HOW YOU ACCUSED SOME OF THE BOARD MEMBERS.
THAT'S YOUR PREROGATIVE, WHAT YOU WOULD SAY, BUT POINT OF BOARD YOUR MADAM CHAIR.
THIS IS MINE, MR. THIS IS MY OPINION.
I'M ALREADY GONNA STOP THIS DISCUSSION RIGHT NOW BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GONNA ARGUE ABOUT IT.
I AGREE THAT IT IS A PROGRAM THAT IS WORTHY OF OUR CONSIDERATION.
UM, I'VE HEARD POSITIVE, I'VE HEARD IN-DEPTH QUESTIONS THAT SHOW PEOPLE'S INTEREST.
I'M NOT GOING TO, UM, WELL, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHO WOULD LIKE TO BE INVOLVED IN THIS AND IF WE WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH IT.
SO, MADAM CHAIR, IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE AT THIS JUNCTURE IF, IF WE'RE BRINGING IT THE LANDING TO ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ESTABLISH A PROJECT TEAM FOR THE, UM, ENERGY PROGRAM.
UM, CAN I GET A MOTION SO OF INTEREST? OKAY.
AND WHAT IS YOUR MOTION THAT WE ESTABLISH A PROJECT TEAM? SO MOVE SECOND.
I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ESTABLISH A PROJECT TEAM.
I FEEL LIKE WE'VE HAD A LOT OF DISCUSSION AROUND THIS.
UM, SO I'D LIKE TO JUST GET A VOTE.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO TAKE TIME AT THIS TIME OR SHE IS THE DIRECTOR,
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OFF A AFTERWARDS IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN BEING A PART OF THE TEAM.YOU KNOW, IF PEOPLE WOULD LIKE TO GET IN TOUCH WITH YOU DIRECTLY OH YEAH, PLEASE REACH OUT AND, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL COORDINATE OUR, OUR INAUGURAL MEETING TO, TO SORT OF FLESH THIS OUT.
I LOOK FORWARD TO TALKING TO EVERYBODY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR REACHING OUT TO OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE INCLUDED ON THIS, UM, PROJECT TEAM.
THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THAT COMMISSIONER MORGAN.
UM, NOT AS EXCITING, BUT IT MAY, IT MIGHT BE, I SHOULDN'T SAY THAT, BUT LET'S,
[8.a. Project Team Report on West A Street]
BUSINESS MIGHT BE EXCITING.UM, WE'RE GONNA START WITH A PROJECT TEAM REPORT ON WEST A STREET.
WELL, YOU THAT A STREET GOT YOU GOING IN IT.
UH, WE, WE'VE, HE, HE'S HAD SEVERAL, UH, RENDITIONS SENT TO US AND WE'VE, UH, NEEDED SOME ADDITIONAL DIMENSIONS ADDED TO IT SO WE REALLY KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UH, THE WHOLE CRUX OF THE THING IS, AS WE TALKED LAST TIME, IS, UH, THE IMPACT THAT THE EXPANDED RAILROAD RIGHT AWAY HAS HAD ON THE, ON THE PARCEL AS WELL AS THE ABANDONED, UH, CITY RIGHT AWAY.
IT'S CAUSED SOME, TOOK A NICE RECTANGULAR PIECE OF PROPERTY AND MADE IT A TRUNCATED, ROBBED US ALMOST.
UM, SO ANYHOW, WE'RE STILL WAITING ON THAT.
BEST WE CAN DETERMINE, UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ABOUT 187 FEET OF FRONTAGE TO WORK WITH, UH, WHICH WE CAN PROBABLY, UH, GENERATE, UH, FOUR TO FIVE LOCKS OUT OF.
UH, IF WE WERE TO GO WITH A PLAN THAT HAD 40 FOOT WIDE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME, UH, WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT, UH, DIFFERENT MODELS THAT WE MIGHT APPROACH WITH THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, UH, WHERE WE LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE, WHAT DONE IN BROOMFIELD, WHERE WE GET TO MAKE THIS, PUT A PARCEL OUT THERE THAT WE HAVEN'T SUBDIVIDED SO THAT THE, UH, DEVELOPER COULD SUBDIVIDED TO MEET HIS PROGRAM.
UH, OR WE COULD DO VARIOUS AND SUNDRY MODELS OF THINGS THAT COULD BE DONE WITH THE PIECE OF PROPERTY.
UM, WE'RE IN DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT AND TRYING TO DETERMINE WHAT MODEL WORKS BEST WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY ONCE WE GET IT ALL FLESHED OUT, WHAT WE REALLY HAVE.
'CAUSE WE, WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T PURSUE OTHER PARTNERSHIPS UNTIL WE CAN PRESENT THIS IS WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO WORK WITH.
AND WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT THERE YET, QUITE YET.
UH, WE ARE TALKING AND, AND SEEKING PARTNERS THAT MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN THAT PARCEL OF LAND TO CREATE HOUSING OPPORTUNITIES.
THIS, UH, AND FOR THE NEXT MEETING, WE HOPE TO HAVE A FINAL PLAQUE TO PRESENT TO THE COMMISSION.
UH, WE WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO ALSO FINALIZE OUR OPINION, THE WORKING GROUP'S OPINION OF WHAT MODEL WORKS BEST WITH THAT PARCEL OF PROPERTY, WHETHER IT BE BUILDING SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, GETTING A, A, A, A PARTNER OF SOME KIND TO WORK WITH IT, UH, A PRIVATE DEVELOPER, MAYBE HABITAT.
I MEAN, ALL DIFFERENT THINGS ARE OUT THERE THAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT ONCE WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE.
AND, UH, WE JUST, WE JUST THINK THAT FINDING THE RIGHT PARTNER ON THAT PARCEL OF LAND IS GONNA BE THE, THE BEST WAY TO GO AT IT.
HOPEFULLY BE ABLE TO PRESENT ALL THAT NEXT MONTH AT THE MEETING.
ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE TEAM? NO, MA'AM.
[8.b. Project Team Report on 911 Eubanks Street]
ON OUR UPDATE LIST IS THE NINE 11 EUBANK STREET PROPERTY.AND WILL YOU BE UPDATE ON THAT? YES, I HAVE AN UPDATE FROM DOCTOR.
UM, EUBANKS TEAM MET, WE HAD A, UM, COUPLE OF CALLS AND WE, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, IT WAS TABARI, UM, ZEV AND ME.
UM, WE UNFORTUNATELY DID NOT GET A QUALIFYING BID THROUGH THE SEALED BID PROCESS.
UM, WE DID GET SOME PAPERWORK, BUT UNFORTUNATELY IT WAS NOT A QUALIFYING BID.
WE ARE, UM, JUST KIND OF, WE'VE FORMULATED SOME IDEAS.
WE'RE ROLLING OUR SLEEVES UP AND WE'RE, WE THINK THAT PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO, UM, YOU KNOW, PUT A QUALIFYING FAMILY IN THIS PROPERTY IS TO ENGAGE WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY AND GROUPS DIRECTLY, UM, CER LIKE REALTOR GROUPS AND THE DIFFERENT COMMUNITY GROUPS, UM, THE PEOPLE'S ASSEMBLY AND RESIDENCE COUNCIL.
AND, UM, SO WE ARE, WE'VE ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON A PLAN, UM, AND WE'RE
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GONNA MEET A FEW MORE TIMES BASICALLY TO IMPLEMENT GOING TO THE VARIOUS MEETINGS, SO THE REALTOR ASSOCIATION MEETINGS OR EVEN PRESENTING TO LIKE THE BIGGER REALTY OFFICES TO SAY, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THIS PROPERTY THAT WE CAN'T LIST ON THE MARKET IN THE STANDARD WAY.UM, BUT SO WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER SOME PRESENTATIONS.
UM, DEFINITELY IF YOU ALL ANY COMMISSIONER KNOWS, UM, KNOWS SOMEBODY THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED IN HAVING US, WE WILL HAVE, WE'RE DEVELOPING A PACKET OF INFORMATION, SORT OF LIKE A REALTOR LIKE YOU WOULD SEE ONLINE WITH THE PICTURES AND THE STATS FOR THE PROPERTY AND, UM, AND THE CDBG SORT OF CHECKLIST BECAUSE THIS, WE KNOW THIS PROPERTY DOESN'T, THIS IS KIND OF WHY IT CAN'T BE SOLD ON THE OPEN MARKET OR NOT WHY, BUT IT'S, IT'S PROBABLY GOOD THAT IT CAN'T BE SOLD ON THE OPEN MARKET BECAUSE IT COMES WITH THE LIEN, UM, IF IT'S, UM, NOT IF THE PERSON DOESN'T LIVE THERE.
SO OUR HOPE IS TO GET THAT ALL THAT DONE AND THE MEETINGS DONE IN THE NEXT MONTH, POSSIBLY TWO MONTHS MONTH IS ALWAYS AMBITIOUS.
UM, SO, AND THEN COME BACK TO THE COMMISSION, UM, HOPEFULLY AROUND JUNE TIMEFRAME TO REQUEST OR TO SORT OF GIVE OUR, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'VE DONE WHERE WE'RE AT.
UM, AND REQUEST TO HOPEFULLY GO INTO THE SEAL BID PROCESS AGAIN, ASSUMING WE GET, YOU KNOW, SOME INTEREST FROM ALL THE WORK WE PUT IN IN THE MEANTIME.
I THINK THIS PROPERTY JUST NEEDS A LITTLE MORE HANDHOLDING FOR WHATEVER REASON.
SO, AND WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE IS YOU'RE, YOU'RE LOOKING TO PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION, MORE EDUCATION BEFORE THE SEAL BED PROCESS.
AND THAT, THAT WAS THE PRO, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT PAPERWORK, BUT IT WAS JUST NOT MM-HMM
SO, SO I THINK IF WE CAN GET THE FOLKS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THE DOOR, WE CAN MEET WITH 'EM, UM, AND EVEN THEIR REALTORS, YOU KNOW, WE, AND KIND OF EDUCATE THEM ON IT, THEN WE CAN MAKE SURE THEY KNOW EXACTLY WHAT STEPS GO INTO PURCHASING, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IN THE SEALED BED AND BID AND PURCHASING THE PROP PROPERTY.
UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE NINE 11 PROJECT TEAM? EXCUSE ME.
[9. Staff Report]
MOVE TO OUR NEXT AGENDA ITEM, WHICH IS OUR STAFF REPORT.I JUST HAVE THREE ITEMS TONIGHT.
UM, IT JUST SO HAPPENED TO BE THREE REALLY BIG ITEMS. WELL, ONE SMALL ITEM AND THEN TWO BIG ITEMS. HOW'S THAT? THE FIRST IS THE FINANCE REPORT.
I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT OUR FUND BALANCE STANDS AT $834,978.
UH, THAT IS, UH, THE OUTCOME OF TWO EXPENDITURES OVER THE LAST MONTH.
UH, ONE WAS $556 SPENT IN UTILITIES, UH, THROUGH THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
AND THE OTHER WAS 606, UH, $686 AND 50 CENTS, UH, UH, WHICH WAS THE PAYMENT FOR OUR INSURANCE PREMIUM.
UM, SO WE'RE HOLDING STEADY, UH, WE ARE WHERE WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE.
I DO WANT TO PUT, UH, INTO YOUR HEARING, UH, THAT WE ARE IN, WE ARE NEARING THE END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR.
AND SO AS WE NEAR THE END OF OUR FISCAL YEAR, ANY OF THOSE ANNUAL EXPENSES THAT WE PUT INTO THE BUDGET, UH, FOR, FOR THINGS SUCH AS MARKETING OR MEMBERSHIPS OR LAND MODIFICATIONS, I THINK OF THE WEST A STREET, UH, PROJECT TEAM.
UM, WE CERTAINLY WANT, WANT TO THINK ABOUT PAYING THE SURVEYOR, UH, RATHER, UH, SOON, UH, EXPEDITIOUSLY, UH, PROVIDED THEY GIVE US, UH, RECEIVABLES, UH, DELIVERABLES.
UM, UH, SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE OUT THE YEAR STRONG AND WE CAN OP OPEN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR AS PLANNED.
UH, SO WE, UH, WE'RE HOLDING STRONG AND WE'RE IN A, IN A GOOD FINANCIAL, UH, PLACE.
DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UH, AS FAR AS THE FINANCIAL REPORT GOES? NO.
I HAVE WHAT DID, UH, WHAT DID YOU SAY ABOUT THE SURVEYOR? I DIDN'T GET THAT.
UM, AS SOON AS WE, WE JUST WANT TO PUSH ALONG THAT PROCESS SO THAT WE CAN PAY THE SURVEYOR BEFORE JULY 1ST.
UH, SO, SO THAT WE CAN CLOSE OUT THIS FISCAL YEAR WITHOUT CARRYING OVER THAT EXPENSE.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, UM, MY, UH, SECOND ITEM ON THE STAFF REPORT THIS EVENING IS AN UPDATE ON THE 10 PARCELS CONVEYED BY CRAVEN COUNTY, UM, MADAM CHAIR, UH, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
UH, MANY OF YOU'LL REMEMBER IN FEBRUARY, 2023, THE COMMISSION WAS CONVEYED, UH, 10 PARCELS IN ALIGNMENT WITH OUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
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TO UTILIZE THESE PARCELS WITHIN FIVE YEARS, UH, CONCLUDING IN FEBRUARY, 2028, ANY PARCELS THAT REMAIN UNUSED OR UNDEVELOPED BY THAT DATE ARE SUBJECT TO AUTOMATIC REVERSION BACK TO THE COUNTY.UH, HERE ARE THINGS, AS THEY STAND TODAY, ONE OF THE PRO, ONE OF THE PARCELS BEING 2 0 9 BRYAN STREET WAS SUCCESSFULLY SOLD ON APRIL 4TH OF THIS YEAR, OR LAST YEAR, RATHER.
ANOTHER PARCEL, UH, 7 0 8 WEST A STREET IS CURRENTLY IN DEVELOPMENT FOR SALE WITH OUR WEST A STREET, UH, PROJECT, UH, FIVE PARCELS, UH, ON SECOND AVENUE ARE A PART OF THE AVENUES PROJECT, WHICH YOU ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH.
UH, THAT LEAVES US WITH THREE PARCELS.
THAT'S 8 21 WEST STREET, 9 0 8 EUBANK STREET, NINE 12 EUBANK STREET, WHICH CURRENTLY REMAIN INACTIVE.
HOWEVER, THEY'RE UNDER INTERNAL REVIEW FOR POTENTIAL INCLUSION AND FURTHER, UH, DEVELOPMENT OR COMMUNITY, UH, SPACE, UH, FOR STRATEGIES.
SO TO SUMMARIZE, WE HAVE ONE PARCEL SOLD, SIX THAT ARE EITHER UNDER DEVELOPMENT OR INCLUDED IN DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND THREE THAT ARE IN NEED OF A CLEAR PATH FORWARD.
WITH THAT IN MIND, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COMMISSION.
I BELIEVE NOW IS THE RIGHT TIME TO FORMALIZE A PRIORITIZATION FRAMEWORK FOR THESE PARCELS, ESPECIALLY THE ONES STILL AWAITING A DEVELOPMENT STRATEGY.
ESTABLISHING A A FRAMEWORK WILL HELP ENSURE WE'RE STAYING ALIGNED WITH BOTH THE REVERSION TIMELINE AND THE GOALS OF OUR REDEVELOPMENT PLAN.
I'D ALSO RECOMMEND THAT THE COMMISSION CONSIDER FORMING PROJECT TEAMS TO SUPPORT THE PRIORITIZATION EFFORT, SMALL GROUPS OF THE COMMISSIONERS AND STAFF WHO CAN HELP DRIVE PLANNING, OUTREACH, AND PARTNER ENGAGEMENT FOR THE REMAINING SITES.
THIS IS A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO BE PROACTIVE, STRATEGIC, AND TRANSPARENT AS AND TRANSPARENT AS STEWARDS OF THESE PROPERTIES.
AND I LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THE WORK WITH YOU ALL.
UH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE 10 PARCELS CONVEYED BY THE COUNTY AT THIS POINT.
I, ONCE AGAIN, I HEAR YOUR, UM, UH, WHAT ABOUT SUGGESTION THAT WE FORM PROJECT TEAMS TO GET STARTED ON THE, ESPECIALLY THE LAST THREE PROJECTS YEAH.
WHAT, WHAT I'VE LEARNED, UH, SINCE JUNE, 2022, WHICH IS WHEN I STARTED WITH YOU ALL, IS TIME FLIES.
UM, AND, UH, YEAH, FEBRUARY 28 IS GONNA BE HERE IN NO TIME FLAT.
AND SO I WOULD, I, I, I THINK IT'S, IT'S PRUDENT FOR THE COMMISSION JUST TO HAVE SOMEONE WATCHING THESE 10 PARCELS BECAUSE THE VERY LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS FOR FEBRUARY, 2028 TO POP AROUND AND FOR OUR INVENTORY, UH, OF PARCELS JUST TO BE NINE LESS BE BECAUSE WE WEREN'T WATCHING, UH, BECAUSE WE WEREN'T WATCHING OUR INVENTORY AND WE WEREN'T PRIORITIZATION, WE WEREN'T PRIORITIZING WELL.
SO THAT'S JUST A RECOMMENDATION.
THERE IS, THERE IS NO TIME URGENCY ON THAT MATTER.
UH, I THINK I WAS GIVEN DIRECTION, UH, TWO MEETINGS AGO TO LOOK AT THE 10 PARCELS.
AND SO I'M JUST FOLLOWING THROUGH ON THAT DIRECTION THAT WAS GIVEN.
UH, SO UN UNLESS YOU ALL HAVE DISCUSSION, I'LL GO TO MY THIRD ITEM, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT MORE IN, IN DEPTH.
UH, THE THIRD ITEM I'D LIKE TO PRESENT TONIGHT IS A REC IS A RECOMMENDATION REGARDING THE EXPANSION OF THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY.
UH, AS IT REGARDS THE RELAXED, UH, SETBACK PROVISION.
AS IT STANDS TODAY, THE CITY ORDINANCE, THE ORDINANCE ALLOWS REDUCED SETBACKS, UH, THAT IS LESS SPACE REQUIRED BETWEEN THE BUILDINGS AND THE PROPERTY LINES.
UH, AND ONLY THE PARCELS ZONED IN R SIX WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT OVERLAY.
THESE RELAXED SETBACKS SERVE AS AN IMPORTANT, SERVE, AN IMPORTANT PURPOSE.
THEY HELP REDUCE DEVELOPMENT COSTS, ENCOURAGE INFILL CONSTRUCTION, AND BETTER MATCH HISTORIC URBAN FORM IN NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THE FIVE POINTS AREA.
SIMPLY PUT, THEY MAKE IT EASIER TO BUILD HOMES IN A WAY THAT'S AFFORDABLE, ATTRACTIVE, AND CONTEXT SENSITIVE.
HOWEVER, UNDER THE COURT, CURRENT ORDINANCE ONLY PROPERTIES WITH AN R SIX ZONING ZONING DESIGNATION QUALIFY FOR THESE BENEFITS EVEN IN SIMILAR RESIDENTIAL USES.
SO IN, IN ZONING DESIGNATIONS SUCH AS C3 WHERE RESIDENTIAL USES ARE PERMITTED, UH, BUT IT'S A CUR IT'S A COMMERCIAL ZONE, THEY CANNOT, THEY CANNOT U UTILIZE OUR RELAXED SETBACKS.
AS I REVIEW THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE CHOICE
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NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, PLAN ALL THE WAY BACK TO THE 1996 PLAN, I REALLY DO BELIEVE THE SPIRIT OF ALL OF THESE PLANS HAS BEEN TO TARGET THE USE OF RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND TO ATTRACT RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO OUR DISTRICT.AND SO I THINK THAT BY RELAXING, RELAXING THESE SETBACKS ACCORDING TO USE INSTEAD OF, OF ACCORDING TO ZONE DESIGNATION, WILL ACTUALLY HELP ATTRACT, UH, THAT KIND OF DEVELOPMENT ON A BROADER SCALE.
I THINK IT WILL HELP THROUGHOUT THE DISTRICT.
UH, ONE OF THE, ONE OF THE CORRIDORS WHERE THIS WILL BE MOST IMPORTANT, WHERE IT'LL BE MOST VISIBLE IS THE MAIN STREET CORRIDOR, WHICH WE'RE ALL VERY, VERY FAMILIAR WITH.
UM, THAT'S CURRENTLY ZONED C3 AND C FOUR.
UM, AND SO, UH, AS, AS, AS WE SEE DEVELOPMENT HAPPENING THROUGH THERE, WE WANT TO MAKE IT EASY.
WE WANT TO MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE.
WE WANT TO IN, WE WANT TO OFFER WHATEVER INCENTIVES WE CAN FOR RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN IN THOSE PLACES.
AND SO TONIGHT WHAT I'M, UH, WHAT WHAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS, IS TWO IS THREE THINGS.
FIRST, IT'S THE RESOLUTION, UH, FOR THE COMMISSION TO PERMIT ME, UH, AS YOUR STAFF AND REPRESENTATIVE TO GO BEFORE THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD AND ASK THEM TO REDUCE, UH, THE SETBACKS, UH, FOR, TO EXPAND THAT SETBACK RELAXATION, UH, FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL, UH, FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL USES.
UH, AND THEN YOU HAVE TWO OPTIONS THAT OUR, UH, CITY ATTORNEY HAS PREPARED FOR US FOR HOW THAT CAN HAPPEN.
AND I'M, I, I'M GONNA ASK HER IF SHE WILL KIND OF GO THROUGH LINE BY LINE OR HOWEVER SHE CHOOSES TO DO THAT FOR US, UH, AND EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO OP, UH, OPTIONS SHE'S PRESENTED FOR US, UH, SO THAT WE MIGHT GENERATE SOME DISCUSSION AND, UH, UM, UH, DECIDE A WAY FORWARD IF YOU ALL DECIDE THAT THIS IS A GOOD AND UH, UH, CREDIBLE WAY, UH, TO GO.
UH, MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, UM, JUST WANNA CLARIFY ONE POINT WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RELAXING THE STANDARDS OR EXPANDING THINGS AS IT RELATES TO THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THE PHYSICAL REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BOUNDARY WILL NOT CHANGE.
CORRECT? SO THE STREETS, THE BLOCKS THAT ARE CONTAINED IN YOUR BOUNDARY WILL REMAIN THE SAME.
THE ONLY CHANGE THAT, UM, IS BEING CONTEMPLATED TONIGHT IS WHERE THE REDUCED DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS WILL EXIST.
SO AS YOU ALL KNOW, UM, IN THE R SIX ZONING DESIGNATIONS WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARY, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE IS 1500 SQUARE FEET.
THE MINIMUM LOT WIDTH IS 25 FEET, AND THE BUILDING SETBACKS ARE 15 FRONT 10, REAR FIVE SIDE.
THAT'S HOW THEY EXIST RIGHT NOW FOR R SIX.
WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARY, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE ZONING DISTRICTS.
YOU HAVE C FOUR, R SIX, R 10, UM, THERE MIGHT BE SOME C3 IN SOME PLACES, THERE'S SEVERAL THAT ARE WITHIN THAT BOUNDARY.
ONE OF THE OPTIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WOULD ALLOW THOSE MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND DIMENSIONS AND SETBACKS TO APPLY TO ANY LOT REGARDLESS OF ZONING DISTRICT THAT IS BEING USED FOR RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION.
BY RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION, WE LOOK AT THE TABLE OF PERMISSIBLE USES FOR THE CITY, WHICH INCLUDES SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DUPLEX, MULTIFAMILY, UM, NURSING HOMES.
THERE ARE A LOT OF RESIDENTIAL USES IN THE CITY OF NEW FIRM.
THE OTHER OPTION IS TO APPLY THOSE, THOSE REDUCED DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO ANY LOT WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARY THAT IS BEING USED FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DUPLEX OR MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION.
SO THOSE OTHER, UM, TYPES OF RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION WOULD NOT GET THE BENEFIT OF THOSE REDUCED DIMENSIONAL SETBACKS.
SO THOSE ARE THE TWO FLAVORS, ONE ANYWHERE IN THE BOUNDARY.
SO LONG AS IT'S A RESIDENTIAL USE, UNDERSTANDING RESIDENTIAL CAN MEAN LOTS OF DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND THE OTHER IS ALLOWING THOSE REDUCED DIMENSIONAL, UM, SETBACKS REQUIREMENTS RATHER FOR SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DUPLEX AND MULTIFAMILY ONLY, WHICH IS REALLY MORE OF A TRADITIONAL UNDERSTANDING OF RESIDENTIAL.
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PROVIDING THAT CLARIFICATION BECAUSE AS OUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SAID, I BELIEVE IT'S ALWAYS BEEN OUR, UM, GOAL TO MAKE IT EASIER AND TO DEVELOP IN LAND THAT HAS, IF IT WAS UNDER THE STANDARD CITY SIZES WOULD NOT BE DEVELOPED, WOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO BE DEVELOPED BECAUSE IT'D BE LIMITED BY THE, THE SIZE.UNDEVELOPABLE OR AT LEAST VASTLY MORE DIFFICULT MM-HMM
SO, SO ARE YOU GONNA PRESENT, YOU WANT TO PRESENT ONE OF THE TWO OR YOU GONNA PRESENT BOTH OF 'EM AND LET THE BOARD DECIDE WHICH ONE THEY WANT TO DO? HOW'S THAT? WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOME DIRECTION FROM YOU ALL ABOUT WHICH ONE OF THESE VERSIONS.
YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD? MM-HMM.
IF AT ALL YOU COULD SAY WE'RE HAPPY WITH HOW THINGS ARE, WE DON'T WANNA CHANGE IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD SUMMARY AND I, I THINK I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE THOSE.
UM, I THINK YOU'VE LAID IT OUT PRETTY CLEARLY TO US, AND I APPRECIATE YOU GIVING US THE LEGAL RAMIFICATIONS OF THE TWO DIFFERENCES.
WHAT OTHER CONCERNS OR QUESTIONS THAT THE BOARD HAS? NOT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER EXAMPLES OF WHAT ARE, LIKE YOU SAID, UM, DID YOU SAY NURSING FACILITIES OF LIKE WHAT'S INCLUDED IN RESIDENTIAL THAT WE, WE WOULD THINK OF AS MORE COMMERCIAL, OBVIOUSLY? YES.
SO RESIDENTIAL, GIMME JUST ONE SECOND.
HOW WOULD THAT AFFECT THE BUILDING WHERE YOU HAD RETAIL ON THE BOTTOM AND APARTMENT AND RESIDENTIAL ON THE SECOND FLOOR? LIKE WOULD THAT BEEN PROPOSED THAT, UH, THE DAY'S IN SITE, SOMETIMES CNI FAMILY, THIS ONE ON POP STREET, DOWN STREET, I WOULD ARGUE IN MY ADVICE TO STAFF WOULD BE THESE, BY SPELLING OUT THAT WE SPECIFICALLY ARE TALKING ABOUT RESIDENTIAL TYPES OF CONSTRUCTION, MIXED USE IS NOT RESIDENTIAL.
SO IF THERE'S GOING TO BE A MIXED USE COMPONENT, THEN IT MAY BE NECESSARY TO, TO ABIDE BY MORE CONVENTIONAL DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS.
AND, AND TO, UM, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR'S QUESTION.
RESIDENTIAL USES, UM, UNDER THE CURRENT TABLE OF PERMISSIBLE USES INCLUDE SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, SINGLE, SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED DUPLEX, MULTI-FAMILY, SHORT-TERM RENTALS, HOMES FOR THE HANDICAPPED OR INFIRMED BOARDING HOUSES, ELDERLY HOUSING DESIGNED FOR INDEPENDENT LIVING WITH SEPARATE HOUSING UNITS, HOTELS AND MOTELS, BED AND BREAKFAST, HOMELESS SHELTERS, HOMES EMPHASIZING SPECIAL SERVICES, TREATMENT OR SUPERVISION, NURSING HOMES, HALFWAY HOUSES, CHILDCARE HOMES, UM, VARIOUS DIFFERENT CLASSES OF MANUFACTURED HOMES.
NOT IN OUR DISTRICT, BUT IN OTHER PLACES.
WHAT IS, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE IN SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED VERSUS A DUPLEX OR A MULTI MULTI-FAMILY? THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
DETACHED, DETACH, DETACHED, DEACH IS SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED VERSUS DUPLEX? I GUESS IF IT'S SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED, THEN THERE'S MORE THAN TWO, BUT LESS THAN FOUR.
SO A TRIPLEX MIGHT BE SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED.
I DIDN'T THAT I THOUGHT THAT WOULD FALL INTO MULTIFAMILY, WHETHER OR MULTIFAMILY IS FOUR UNITS OR MORE.
SO WE'RE BASICALLY TALKING ABOUT A TRIX MM-HMM
SO, UH, UM, WELL I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT I THINK THE MORE DEFINITIVE WE CAN BE IN THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BETTER, THE BETTER THAT I WOULD LIKE IT.
AND, AND SO THAT OPTION, UM, WHICH ONE? THE, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ONE OR TWO, BUT THE ONE THAT, THAT DEFINES A SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL DUPLEX AND MULTIFAMILY SPELLS IT OUT EXACTLY WHAT IT IS AND IT, IT LIMITS WHAT SOMEBODY MIGHT BE ABLE TO TRY TO WIGGLE AROUND AND, AND, AND UTILIZE THESE, UH, REDUCED DIMENSIONS TO, UH, ACCOMMODATE SOMETHING THAT, THAT WE REALLY DON'T LIKE, UH, OR WOULDN'T LIKE.
UM, THE MORE DEFINED YOU CAN BE AND, AND PROVIDE CLARITY FOR POTENTIAL BUILDERS OR DEVELOPERS
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OR WHATEVER, THE BETTER OFF WE'RE GOING TO BE.I WOULD, I WOULD SUPPORT THAT OPTION THAT DOES THAT INSTEAD OF LOTS.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO REMEMBER THAT THIS IS A MINIMUM.
SO CERTAINLY A DEVELOPER IN CONTEMPLATING THEIR, THEIR BUSINESS MODEL OR THEIR STRATEGY CAN EXCEED THESE STANDARDS.
UM, BUT THIS IS JUST EXPANDING WHAT THE MINIMUM THRESHOLD MIGHT BE.
AND THIS IS REALLY USING THE, THE LOT SIZES THAT WE'VE DEVELOPED.
UM, AND IT WAS JUST FOR THE R SIX ZONING DESIGNATION THAT WAS NOT INTENTIONALLY JUST TO BE FOR R SIX.
SO THIS EXPANDS IT FOR THE OTHER LOTS FOR THE OTHER ZONING DESIGNATIONS PROVIDED.
THE LOTS ARE BEING USED FOR THOSE SPECIFIC RESIDENTIAL USES IF YOU'RE INCLINED TO AGREE WITH MR. PERICO.
NOBODY LOOKS VERY QUESTIONING WITH WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AS WE FOUND OUT RECENTLY.
ALSO, THERE'S ADDITIONAL OVERLAYS FOR ARCHITECTURAL DESIGN.
DO I REMEMBER THAT THEY HAD, UH, SETBACK LIMITS IN THEM? THE LAWSON CREEK MIGHT DON'T QUOTE ME.
UM, HOWEVER, I THINK THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME REVISIONS TO SOME OF THOSE OVERLAYS IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
YEAH, BUT I MEAN THAT'S IN THE RENEW PROJECT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OR IS THAT GONNA BE DONE SEPARATELY? SEPARATELY.
COULD THE RENEW MIGHT TAKE A WHILE? YES, SIR.
I DO HAVE A COMMENT IF I CAN MAKE IT.
MAYBE EACH INDIVIDUAL LOCKED MAY NEED TO BE IDENTIFIED AS SUCH IF THEY HAVE A SETBACK, WHATEVER NEEDED VERSUS HAVING A BROAD, UH, OVERLAY OF WHAT, UH, SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT.
WE THINK ABOUT DURING THE WHOLE EVERYTHING THAT'S IN OUR DEVELOPMENT AREA, WHY NOT DO IT ON INDIVIDUAL BASIS VERSUS DOING THE WHOLE AREA WELL, AND I THINK IT COULD BE DETERMINED ON AN INDIVIDUAL BASIS, BUT IT'S ALLOWED THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE DEVELOPMENT AREA.
SO I THINK EITHER ZEV OR, OR KIP HAD SAID EARLIER, THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU HAVE TO DO IT THAT WAY.
IT'S JUST, IT GIVES THE ALLOWANCE FOR IT.
I'LL SUPPORT KIT'S, UH, IDEA ON, ON THE, UH, THE SECOND ONE.
WAS IT THE SECOND ONE I DIDN'T NUMBER THEM.
THE ONE THAT HAD THE THE SPECIFIC ONE.
THE, THE, THE ONE, THE ONE THAT, UH, STATES SINGLE FAMILY DETA OR SEE STRATS DETACHED, BUT SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DUPLEX AND MULTI-FAMILY CONSTRUCTION.
AND IS A MOTION TO ACCEPT THAT RESOLUTION? MM-HMM
WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND JUST TO CLARIFY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THE RECORD IS CLEAR.
MR. PARHAM HAS MADE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION TO PROPOSE THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT ALLOWS SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DUPLEX AND MULTIFAMILY CONSTRUCTION, THE BENEFIT OF THE DIMENSIONAL, UH, EXCEPTIONS.
NO, BUT WHICH ONE WAS THAT THOUGH? THE FIRST ONE, THE SECOND.
THAT WAS THE FIRST ONE THAT, THIS IS THE ONE THAT SAID THAT LIMITS THE DIMENSIONS TO RESIDENTIAL USES THAT ARE SPECIFIC, SPECIFICALLY SINGLE FAMILY, RESIDENTIAL, DUPLEX AND MULTIFAMILY.
AND WHO IS THE SECOND? I'M SORRY, COMMISSIONER PROCTOR.
SO IT'S THE SPECIFIC RESOLUTION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND THE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE.
DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE FOR THIS RESOLUTION? NO.
ALL OPPOSED? OKAY, SO THE MOTION CARRIES AND, AND JUST SO YOU KNOW, COMMISSIONERS, UH, THE NEXT STEPS ARE THESE BASED ON, UM, YOUR VOTE TONIGHT, MR. HUFF IS GOING TO APPLY FOR A TAX AMENDMENT WITH THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
UM, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WILL HAVE A MEETING TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE TAX AMENDMENT THAT YOU HAVE RECOMMENDED IS CONSISTENT WITH THE, UM, CITY'S LAND USE PLANS AND FUTURE LAND USE.
IF THEY FIND THAT THE TEXT AMENDMENT IS REASONABLE, UM, AND CONSISTENT, THEN THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN
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WILL CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER COMMENTS ON THE TEXT AMENDMENT.AND ULTIMATELY THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN WILL DETERMINE WHETHER THIS CHANGE WILL GO INTO EFFECT.
SO, UH, REALISTICALLY THERE'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL WEEKS BEFORE A, A RESOLUTION IS, UM, DETERMINED, BUT AT EACH ONE OF THOSE STEPS, I'M SURE THAT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR WILL KEEP YOU IN THE LOOP.
AND AS MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC OR AS MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, IF YOU'D LIKE TO PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS TO OFFER YOUR COMMENTS OR SUPPORT, I'M SURE THAT THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU TO DO SO.
I'LL TAKE A MOMENT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AND SAY, Y'ALL KNOW, I DON'T LIKE TO SHOW UP BY MYSELF, RIGHT?
I'M LOOKING AT ALL OF Y'ALL EYE CONTACT.
ALL'S YOU NEED TO DO, IS IT DURING THE DAY, NO PLANNING AND ZONING? UH, FIVE 30 ON THE THIRD THURSDAY OF EACH MONTH, AND THEN THE BOARD OF BALTIMORE BEGINS AT SIX.
REMIND ME, WE GO TO THIS STUFF.
AND MY HUSBAND, I WAS GONNA ASK, SUGGEST IF YOU, WE GET SOME EMAIL REMINDERS TO THAT EFFECT.
AND WHEN THAT ATTORNEY GIVES ME FINAL, UH, FINAL RENDITIONS, UH, OF, OF, UH, THE, THE TEXT AMENDMENTS, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT THE COMMISSION GETS THEM AND YOU ALL GET UPDATES.
UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE ON, ON MY STAFF REPORT TONIGHT IS THAT THIS IS APRIL.
AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, MY STAFF REPORT TIME FLIES.
AND SO, UH, THE COMMISSION YEAR STARTS IN AUGUST AND WE HAVE SOME COMMISSIONERS THAT ARE ROLLING OFF THIS AUGUST.
AND BELIEVE IT OR NOT, WITH SUMMER COMING AUGUST WILL BE HERE MUCH QUICKER THAN ANY OF YOU ARE PREPARED FOR.
AND SO WITH AUGUST COMING, THE COMMISSION NEEDS TO PREPARE ITSELF FOR PROJECT TEAM, UH, PROJECT TEAM REPLACEMENTS.
UH, MR. PARAGUAY, MR. PARAGUAY IS QUITTING ON US.
UH, UH, HE'S, HE'S QUITTING, UH,
AND, AND SO SOMEONE, UH, WILL NEED TO STEP ON WEST A STREET PROJECT TEAM SO THAT MR. DOULA HUNT ISN'T BY HIMSELF.
UM, I BELIEVE, UH, MS. WALKER IS ALSO DUE.
UM, AND, UH, SO WE WILL BE LOOKING FOR A NEW CHAIR TO STEP UP AS WELL.
UH, AND SO PLEASE HAVE THAT IN MIND.
AND WITH TWO VACANCIES ALSO COME TWO EMPTY CHAIRS.
AND SO WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS.
AND SO, UM, JUST BE ON THE LOOKOUT, BE IN COMMUNICATION, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS, I'D LOVE TO HAVE CONVERSATION, UH, WITH YOU.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEARING WITH ME AND FOR YOUR AWESOME WORK.
THANK YOU TO ALL THE PROJECT TEAMS THAT WORK SO HARD THIS MONTH.
ALL THE PHONE CALLS, ALL THE MEETINGS.
YOU GUYS ARE ROCK STARS AND YOU'RE MAKING A REAL DIFFERENCE.
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IT, OUR ITEM NUMBER 10 IS CLOSED SESSION, WHICH I WILL NEED A MOTION TO GO INTO BECAUSE WE HAVE SOME PROPERTY TO DISCUSS.AND IT IS ALSO, UH, PROJECT TEAM.
SO THERE'S UPDATE TO BE HAD AND CLOSED SESSION TO BE GONE INTO.
MADAM ATTORNEY'S GONNA HAVE TO GIVE US THE VERBIAGE.
OKAY? SO THE MAGIC VERBIAGE, CAN YOU GIMME THE STATUTE THAT SAYS WE CAN DO THAT? I ABSOLUTELY CAN.
PURSUANT TO NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL STATUTE 1 43, 3 18, 11 A FIVE TO DISCUSS THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY.
NOBODY SAYS IT BETTER THAN YOU.
CAN I GET A MOTION TO DO THAT? MAKE A MOTION PRO THAT STATUTE.
GO INTO CLOSED SESSION ACCORDING TO STATUTE, NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL STATUTE 1 43, 3 18, 11.