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THE MEETING TO ORDER AT 5 31.UM, THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR COMING OUT.
THIS IS OUR SECOND MEETING OF THE CALENDAR YEAR, UM, AND YOU MIGHT SEE A NEW FACE ON THIS SIDE OF THE TABLE.
I WANT TO INTRODUCE YOU TO ABBY MCCLAY.
UM, SHE'S OUR NEW MPO PLANNER AND HAS BEEN WITH US FOR JUST OVER A MONTH.
JUMPED IN FEET FIRST AND SUPER EXCITED, UM, TO, UH, ACTUALLY BE PRESENTING SOMETHING THIS EVENING.
[2. Public Comment]
THE, UM, WE DON'T HAVE ANY PUBLIC COMMENT AND THERE'S NO ONE FROM THE PUBLIC HERE, SO I'LL BE, UM, EVERYONE.[3. Approval of Minutes – January 7, 2025]
HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES.I MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
[4. Board of Aldermen Presentation April 8th]
NOW I'LL GET TO THE MEAT OF THE TONIGHT'S, UH, MEETING.UM, SO AS YOU KNOW, UM, MARY AND BEN, UM, I THINK HENRY, YOU WERE THERE ABOUT, UM, ABOUT A MONTH OR SO AGO THAT, UH, WE APPROACHED OR YOU APPROACHED THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, UM, DURING THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO KIND OF ASK FOR SOME GUIDANCE TO, YOU DID A VERY QUICK, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED AND ASK FOR GUIDANCE ON NEXT STEPS.
UM, AND I THINK, 'CAUSE YOU WERE KIND OF SANDWICHED IN BETWEEN SOME OTHER PUBLIC COMMENT, I DON'T REALLY THINK THAT THE BOARD MAYBE KNEW THAT WE WERE LOOKING FOR, UM, OR YOU WERE LOOKING FOR A RESPONSE OR FOR GUIDANCE.
UM, SO AS A RESULT, WE REACHED BACK OUT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ASKED FOR, WELL, WHAT SHOULD WE DO NOW? AND HE SAID, WHY DON'T YOU COME HAVE THEM PRESENT AT A BOARD OF ALDERMAN MEETING.
UM, SO THAT WAS THE, UM, IMPETUS FOR THE EMAIL THAT I SENT OUT AND, UM, TRYING TO FIGURE OUT DATES.
AND SO WE ARE ON THE, THE CALENDAR FOR TOMORROW NIGHT, UM, AGENDA.
AND, UM, AND I DIDN'T GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK ON WHO MIGHT BE AVAILABLE TO PRESENT.
AND SO I'M GOING TO PRESENT ON YOUR BEHALF IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU.
AND SO, UM, THE PRESENTATION THAT I HAVE IS I WANTED TO KIND OF GO THROUGH IT.
I HAD ALREADY SHARED IT WITH YOU, BUT I WANTED TO TALK THROUGH IT.
OBVIOUSLY I'M SPEAKING ON FOR YOU.
SO I WOULD LIKE FOR COMMENTS, FEEDBACK, ET CETERA.
AND WOULD ALSO, LIKE, IF YOU'RE ABLE TO COME TOMORROW JUST AND SHOW OF SUPPORT AND SO THAT IF THEY ASK ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE, YOU'RE THERE TO ACTUALLY, UM, UM, ASK QUESTIONS OR RESPOND, ET CETERA.
SO, UM, WE'RE GONNA START OFF.
YOU'RE GONNA SEE THESE SLIDES LOOK VERY FAMILIAR.
UM, SO THE INTENT IS THAT THEY KNOW NOTHING.
AND SO THE GOAL IS TO KIND OF WALK THEM THROUGH ALL OF THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS THAT THE COMMITTEE HAS UNDERTAKEN OVER THE LAST YEAR.
UM, AND SO WE'RE GONNA START OFF WITH KIND OF JUST REMINDING THEM ABOUT WHAT IS THE BICYCLE PEDESTRIAN PLAN, AND WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT ALL THE DIFFERENT SECTIONS.
AND I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT ALL OF THESE MEAN.
UM, THEN WE, UM, ARE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE WHY.
SO THE, THE PLAN LOOKED AT THE EXISTING CONDITIONS OF WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCOMMODATIONS.
AND SO JUST LIKE WE TALKED ABOUT WHERE IT BENCHMARKED, WHERE WE ARE, WHERE WE ARE AT, SO IT BENCHMARK EXISTING TRAILS, UM, SIDEWALK POINTS OF INTEREST, IT LOOKED FOR OPPORTUNITIES FOR NEW AND EXPANDED FACILITIES.
REMEMBER THE MAP THAT WE LOOKED AT, THOSE SIDEWALK GAPS.
UM, IT ALSO IDENTIFIED CHALLENGES, WHICH WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN LENGTH ABOUT, UM, THE, THE NARROWNESS OF THE ROAD OR THE RIGHT OF WAY OR THE SPEED OF THE TRAFFIC, THE VOLUME OF THE TRAFFIC.
BUT ULTIMATELY IT HAD THE COMMON THEME THAT, UM, NEWBURN IS A WALKABLE AND BIKEABLE COMMUNITY.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO LEAN INTO.
SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE RECOMMENDATIONS COMPRISED A NUMBER OF MAPS.
AND SO THE FIRST ONE THEY TALKED ABOUT WAS THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAY AND SIDEWALK GAPS.
AND SO I'LL BE TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS ALONG WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAYS, BECAUSE THEY LOOK, THEY SOUND VERY SIMILAR, BUT THEY'RE DIFFERENT.
THEN WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHAT IS MEANT BY THE COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR AND THE EAST COAST GREENWAY.
AND THEN FOLLOWING THE DOWNTOWN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS.
DO YOU ALL REMEMBER WHEN I, WHEN YOU HEAR THESE WORDS, DO YOU REMEMBER THE MAPS? WHAT DEFINES THEM? OKAY.
AND SO ONCE I TELL THEM THAT THESE ARE ALL THE RECOMMENDATIONS, I'M THEN GOING TO TELL THEM THAT WE SPENT THE MAJORITY OF TIME COMBINING IN ON THOSE TWO, BECAUSE THOSE TWO ARE THE ONES THAT WE HAVE THE GREATEST INFLUENCE IDENTIFYING LARGE SCALE PROJECTS.
SO WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT THE PLAN, ALSO RECOMMENDED SOME PROGRAM RECOMMENDATIONS.
AND SO THE FIRST ONE WAS TO FORM AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE, WHICH WE DID.
UM, AND THEN IT'S GOING TO, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT SOME OF THESE OTHER ITEMS. AND SO THEY'RE GONNA ASK THINGS LIKE, WELL, WHY CAN'T WE DO A WALK FRIENDLY COMMUNITY? LIKE, WELL, IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN JUST SUBMIT AN APPLICATION.
THERE'S A VERY INTENSE APPLICATION PROCESS.
AND RIGHT NOW WE DON'T QUITE NEED THAT.
UM, ALSO ENGAGE THE WALK FOR ME AND SEE WHICH WE HAVE BEEN DOING
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THAT.UM, I NEED TO, LET ME, REMIND ME IF THAT'S WALK FOR ME OR WALK THROUGH.
IT MIGHT BE WATCH, WATCH ROOM, UM, SHOOT, I GOTTA TELL HER, OKAY, HELP ME AROUND.
BUT, UM, THE WALK, THE WATCH FOR ME IS A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY CAMPAIGN AND NEW BERN HAS BEEN PARTICIPATING IN THAT.
UM, ALSO PARTNERING WITH SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOLS AND PARKS WHERE WE STAFF'S BEEN ATTENDING WEBINARS, BUT A LOT OF THE SAFE ROUTES TO SCHOOL, THAT FUNDING THAT WAS DEDICATED TO THAT PROGRAM IS NO LONGER THERE.
AND SO THIS IS MORE OF A PASSIVE, UM, ASSOCIATION.
IT'S A EDUCATION INFORMING, UM, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEN IMPLEMENTING NEIGHBORHOOD WAY FINDING THAT'S PART OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREEN WASTE PLAN.
AND THEN LOOKING AT TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES SUCH AS, UM, TRAFFIC CIRCLES OR MURALS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
SO THEN WE WANNA REMIND 'EM ABOUT THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE COMMITTEE.
THE COMMITTEE'S ESTABLISHED THROUGH A RESOLUTION.
AND IN THAT RESOLUTION THE MEMBERS HAVE BEEN CHARGED TO EVALUATE THE PROGRESS OF THE PLAN.
THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO HOLD STAFF ACCOUNTABLE TO ENSURING THAT WE ARE, UM, MOVING FORWARD ON SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE ESTABLISHED IN THE PLAN.
BUT THEN THE MEMBERS ARE ALSO SUPPOSED TO INPUT, OFFER INPUT TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, UM, ASSIST IN EVENTS AND EDUCATIONAL ACTIVITIES, WHICH YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE BEEN ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING IN LAST YEAR'S, UM, BIKE RODEO.
AND SOME OF YOU ARE ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS YEAR'S BIKE RODEO.
YOU'RE HELPING, UM, TO CONTINUE BUILDING SUPPORT FOR PEDESTRIAN BICYCLE ISSUES.
AND THEN LASTLY, ADVOCATING FOR LOCAL PROJECT FUNDING.
AND AGAIN, THIS IS ALL ESTABLISHED IN THE RESOLUTION.
SO OVER THE LAST YEAR, YOU KNOW, WE'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME PRIORITIZING AND REVIEWING THE MAPS OF BOTH THE SIDEWALK GAPS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD GREENWAYS.
AND AS A RESULT THAT THERE WAS THREE PROJECTS THAT WE ULTIMATELY PRIORITIZED.
AND WHEN WE PRIORITIZED THAT, WE REALLY JUST LOOKED AT LOCATION AND, AND WHERE WE HAVE THE, THE GREATEST IMPACT FOR THOSE THAT SURROUND THOSE IMPROVEMENTS.
WE DID NOT LOOK AT ANYTHING ELSE.
WE DIDN'T LOOK AT MONEY, WE DIDN'T LOOK AT ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS.
WE JUST LOOKED AT LOOKING AT THE PLAN AND WE TRIED TO STICK TO THE PLAN.
WHAT WERE THE TOP THREE PRIORITIES THAT WE WENT THROUGH A VERY DILIGENT PROCESS TO DO THAT.
AND AS A RESULT, THE, THESE ARE THE THREE PROJECTS THAT THIS COMMITTEE SAID WERE THE MOST IMPORTANT, UM, FOR THE CITY TO FOCUS ON.
AND SO THE NEXT COUPLE SLIDES IS, UM, I WAS GOING TO WALK THROUGH EACH OF THE PROJECTS TO KIND OF ACCLIMATE THEM TO THESE PROJECTS.
NOW WE'LL POINT OUT THAT THESE PROJECTS HAVE ALREADY BEEN CHAIRED WITH THEM AS PART OF A POTENTIAL BOND REFERENDUM.
UM, GEORGE WAS, UM, INCLUDING SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS AS PART OF SOME OPTIONS FOR BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
AND I, HAVE WE MADE ANY, HAVE THEY MADE ANY DECISIONS OR ARE THEY STILL WORKING THROUGH OPTIONS OF WHAT THAT BOND'S GONNA LOOK LIKE? I THINK THEY'RE GONNA HAVE THE 10 ITEMS, 10 OR 12 DRAINAGE ITEMS THAT WERE INCLUDED.
IN, IN THERE IN THE STORM WATER.
AND SOME OF 'EM, WHEN SHE TALKS ABOUT THIS, ARE VERY SIMILAR TO, WE'VE GOT LOTS OF SECTIONS ON NO ROAD THAT HAVE NO ROADSIDE DRAINAGE.
AND SO AS WE WORK TO IMPLEMENT THAT, WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ACCOMMODATING A SPACE TO THEN PUT SIDEWALK ON TOP OF IT.
SO WE EITHER HAVE INADEQUATE ROADSIDE DITCHES OR WE DON'T HAVE DRAINAGE AVAILABLE, BUT WE'RE GONNA TAKE INTO ACCOUNT TRYING TO IMPROVE THE SHOULDER TO HAVE ROOM FOR SOME TYPE OF SIDEWALK OR MULTIUSE.
SO, BUT WHEN WE WERE LOOKING AT IT, WE'RE JUST LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS.
AND SO, UM, SOME OF THE, THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE IS, YOU KNOW, WE CAN, THERE ARE COST ESTIMATING TOOLS AVAILABLE FOR US TO USE, BUT THOSE TOOLS ARE NOT GREAT.
AND WHEN I SAY THE RETOOL, IT'S KIND OF LIKE YOU CAN ROLL THE DICE SOMETIMES.
I MEAN, 'CAUSE IT'S NOT LOOKING AT THE SPECIFICS OF AN AREA, IT'S LOOKING AT A, A BROAD PICTURE.
SO, UM, SO FOR INSTANCE, IF, YOU KNOW, ON TRENT ROAD, IT'LL LOOK AT THIS AND THEY'LL, IT'LL DETERMINE IF WE WANT TO DO ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
SO IF YOU WANT TO TURN THIS INTO, UM, A CENTER, CENTER TURN LANE BIKE LANES, IT'LL SAY, I NEED A PICKING A NUMBER, A HUNDRED FEET OF, OF RIGHT OF WAY.
SO THEN IT JUST CALCULATES THE COST DIFFERENCE, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY LOOK INTO THE CONSIDERATION OF MAKING IT, UM, SPECIALIZED FOR THAT PARTICULAR AREA WHERE MAYBE WE COULD, WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH, WE CAN COME IN A LITTLE BIT, ET CETERA.
OR IT DOESN'T REALLY TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION LIKE GEORGE MENTIONED, WHERE IF WE HAVE TO, IF WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY, BUT WE HAVE TO PIPE EVERYTHING THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY PICKED UP FROM THE COST ESTIMATE.
AND YOU KNOW, GEORGE REALLY MAKES A GOOD POINT IN ALL OF THESE VARIOUS EFFORTS IN THE CITY SHOULD REALLY WORK IN CONCERT WITH EACH OTHER.
'CAUSE IF THEY WORK IN ISOLATION, WE'RE GONNA GET SOME BAD
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RESULTS.AND, AND GEORGE HAS BEEN GREAT THINKING THROUGH SOMETHING THOUGH AND WE'VE BEEN COMMUNICATING AND, AND REFERENCING BACK TO THE PLAN AND WHERE WE CAN MAKE SOME IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THE TREAD ROAD SIDE PATH IS ONE THAT, UM, THAT THIS COMMITTEE HAD IDENTIFIED.
AND THE SIDE PATH IS, IT'S ONLY LOOKING AT ADDING A 10 FOOT MULTI-USE PATH ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD.
BUT IN REALITY, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE TRAFFIC VOLUME ON THIS ROAD, YOU REALLY NEED TO COME OUT, YOU NEED TO LOOK AT IT FROM A HOLISTIC, LIKE YOU JUST MENTIONED, RIGHT? SO RATHER THAN SPENDING THE MONEY TO DO JUST THE SIDE PATH, WE NEED TO LOOK AT OKAY, PROJECTING WHAT THE VOLUME'S GONNA BE OF TRAFFIC, WE NEED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THAT WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO SOME IN ROAD IMPROVEMENTS.
AND THEN THE BENEFIT OF THAT, WHEN YOU DO A ROAD IMPROVEMENT, THAT'S YOUR PRIMARY FACTOR AND YOUR SECONDARY FACTOR IS YOUR PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS.
SO THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT FROM THE NPOS PERSPECTIVE, I'M MORE, I CAN'T SAY 'CAUSE I'M NOT ON THE, I'M, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR THE BOARD, BUT THIS WOULD BE A RECOMMENDATION FROM STAFF IS TO CONTINUE ADDING, UM, THE TRENT ROAD WIDE VIEW PROJECT AND Y VIEW COULD BE JUST ADDING THAT CENTER TURN LANE AND THEN AS A RESULT, ADDING PIPING THE DITCHES, ADDING THE BIKE LANES AND THE SIDEWALKS.
AND THAT'S THINKING IN THE, THAT'S NOW WE'RE THINKING IN THE FUTURE, INSTEAD OF BANDING THE MISTAKES OF THE PAST, YES.
I MEAN, NONE OF THIS IS GONNA HAPPEN IN THE NEXT YEAR.
IT'S THAT YOU JUST HAVE TO PLAN FOR IT.
AND WHEN YOU'RE USING ESTIMATING TOOLS FOR, FOR TRYING TO DO FUTURE TRAFFIC VOLUME, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT A BIG FACTOR, I I PERSONALLY THINK IT'S GONNA IMPACT CURRENT ROAD IS WHEN THE 43 CONNECTOR COMES THROUGH, YOU'LL HAVE PEOPLE COME DOWN TRENT ROAD INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH ALL THE STOPLIGHTS TO GET DOWNTOWN.
SO YOU'RE GONNA, I THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE A, A VERY SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN TRAFFIC ON COUNTRY WHAT THAT PROJECT COMPLETED.
I MEAN, AND ONE THING, NOT PART OF THIS CON CONVERSATION, BUT THAT IS ONE THING THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IN THE MPO WORLD, IS LOOKING AT WHAT KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS ARE NEEDED ON MLK SO THAT PEOPLE ARE GONNA WANT TO STAY ON THAT ROAD INSTEAD OF GOING TO ALTERNATE ROAD.
SO, UM, BUT AT LEAST FOR THE TRENT ROAD SIDE PATH, THE CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN IS JUST TO TELL THEM THIS IS THE LIMITS OF THE PROJECT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED IN AS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY FOR FROM THE COMMITTEE.
HOWEVER, THERE'S LOTS OF THINGS TO CONSIDER.
AND SO, UM, IF WE'RE GONNA DO ONE THING, WE NEED TO LOOK AT IT ALL.
UM, AND THEN, UM, SO GEORGE JUST MENTIONED ABOUT THE OAKS ROAD SIDEWALK OR SIDE PATH.
SO THE, THE INTENT OF THIS PROJECT IS TO CONNECT TO EXISTING INFRASTRUCTURE, BUT AS WE'VE DISCUSSED IS, YOU KNOW, RIGHT OF WAY IS LIMITED ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, BUT WE'RE MAKING SOME PROGRESS AS WE CAN, UM, WITH GEORGE.
I MEAN, IN THIS PROJECT, I MEAN THERE'S, THERE'S LARGER PIECES THAT COULD BE CONNECTED TOGETHER.
THIS JUST HAPPENS TO BE THE ONE PIECE THAT WE IDENTIFIED FOR US AND THEN WE IDENTIFIED THE COUNTRY CLUB ROAD DIET.
UM, SO THIS BUILDS UPON THE PRIOR IMPROVEMENT OF THE ROAD DIET KIND OF CONNECTS, UM, YOU KNOW, THE CONTINUATION FROM, YOU KNOW, KIND OF DOWNTOWN NEWBURN, UM, INTO TRENT WOODS.
WE ALL KNOW WHAT THE ROAD DIET IS AND THERE'S A LOT THAT NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED WHEN WE DO THIS TYPE OF PROJECT.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S SUPPORTED, THERE'S BEEN NO ENGINEERING ANALYSIS DONE.
AND SO WHILE IT'S A RECOMMENDATION, JUST LIKE THE REST OF THEM, THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE BEFORE WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH A YES, WE'RE READY TO, TO DO THIS PROJECT.
UM, THIS PROJECT, UM, THIS, THIS ROAD IS A DOT ROAD.
SO WE WOULD NEED, UM, RIGHT THIS PART YEAH, BUT THE MAJORITY OF IT IS THAT ONCE YOU COME UP TO THE, TO THE OVERPASS SECTION YEAH, THE DOT TAKES OVER MAINTENANCE.
SO WE WOULD HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT, UM, THAT IT MEETS THEIR, THEIR DESIGN REQUIREMENTS.
OAKS ROAD AND TRENT ARE BOTH CITY ROADS AND SO WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT MORE FLEXIBILITY, BUT ULTIMATELY THEY'RE THE TRAFFIC EXPERTS AND SO WE TEND TO DEFAULT TO WHAT THEIR REQUIREMENTS ARE.
AND SO THE ASK FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN IS THAT THE COMMITTEE, YOU KNOW, FEELS LIKE THAT THEY'VE SPENT THE LAST YEAR, UM, BEING VERY DILIGENT IN IDENTIFYING THE PRIORITY PROJECTS AND, UM, THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATION TO, UM, LOOK AT FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A MORE IN DEPTH CONVERSATION THAT YOU LEARNED FROM EMERALD TO IS THE SUCCESS THAT THEY'VE HAD.
UM, AND YOU'RE WANTING TO SEE IF THAT'S SOMETHING FEASIBLE FOR THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING FOR THE NEXT AREA OF FOCUS, LIKE WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE COMMITTEE WAS ESTABLISHED FOR REASON, SO WHAT IS THE NEXT PRIORITY? UM, AND THEN ALSO SEEKING BOARD REPRESENTATION.
THIS IS WHY YOU GUYS ARE SUPPOSED TO DO THIS, NOT ME,
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SOUM, BUT, UM, SEEKING YOUR REPRESENTATION ON THE COMMITTEE SO YOU HAVE A VOICE OF THE, UM, THE BOARD AND UM, THAT PROBABLY IS GOING TO BE FILLED IN OCTOBER, NOVEMBER WHENEVER THE ELECTION COMES.
BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST SPEAKING ON YOUR BEHALF, SO MM-HMM
I HAVE A QUESTION AND PRACTICAL PEOPLE, THEY'RE GONNA ASK ABOUT MONEY AND UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE BIGGEST FACTOR OF THE BOOK AS, AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST.
SO ARE WE GONNA HAVE THAT DATA AVAILABLE? SO THEY HAD ASKED, UM, THE CITY MANAGER ASKED US TO INCLUDE ESTIMATES.
UM, IN CONVERSATION WITH GEORGE, WE FELT THAT SHOW, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU SHOW A NUMBER OF WHAT SOMETHING COSTS, PEOPLE WALK INTO THAT NUMBER AND THEN YOU CAN NEVER WALK THAT BACK.
UM, AND SO KNOWING THAT WE FELT REALLY, UM, WANTED TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF CAUTION AND JUST LEAD WITH THIS IS AN IDEA, AND IF THIS IS A PROJECT, ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT THE BOARD WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE, THEN WE WOULD DEFINITELY BE INTERESTED IN ENGAGING WITH AN ENGINEERING FIRM TO DO, YOU KNOW, LIKE A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS TO GET US A COST ESTIMATE.
SO THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE NEXT STEP IF WE WANTED TO TAKE ON ONE OF THOSE PROJECTS.
AND SO THAT GOES BACK TO, YOU KNOW, BUT WE NEED TO KNOW, WE NEED TO KNOW IF WE, IF WE THINK OF, UM, DOING A, ADDING A CENTER TURN LANE AND BIKE LANES, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT FOR TRENT, BUT THE ANALYSIS COMES BACK AND SAYS, OH NO, BASED ON PROJECTED, UM, YOU KNOW, YOUR YOUR ANNUAL TRAFFIC, YOU'RE GONNA NEED TO, YOU NEED TO FOUR LANE IT.
THAT'S A, THAT, THAT'S A WHOLE NOTHER CONVERSATION.
UM, AND SO THAT'S KIND OF THE STUFF, THE TYPE OF CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
AND WE'RE JUST NOT READY FOR THAT YET AT THIS LEVEL, JUST BECAUSE WE NEED, WE NEED MONEY TO DO THE NEXT STEP.
SO WHEN YOU GO BACK TO TELLING THEM ABOUT OUR THREE AREAS OF FOCUS, UHHUH,
DOES THAT SEEM LIKE A, SOMETHING THAT'S, AND IT MIGHT BE, UM, MAYBE WHERE, UM, AT THE LAST SLIDE WHEN IT SAYS, LOOKING FOR THE NEXT AREA OF FOCUS YEAH, MAYBE WE CAN SAY IT THERE, RIGHT? WHERE IT SAYS COMMITTEE MEMBERS, YOU KNOW, IF YOU ARE INTERESTED, WOULD LIKE TO PURSUE A MORE IN-DEPTH YEAH.
SO THAT WAY HIRE A CONSULTANT.
SO, SO THEY'RE, AND THEN THEY CAN SAY, 'CAUSE WE NEED MONEY TO HIRE THE CONSULTANT.
SO THEN WE'RE ASKING THEM, CAN WE SPEND SOME MONEY TO HIRE A CONSULTANT? YES.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE ASKING THEM? YES.
SO THEN WE CAN MOVE ON WITH GOING YES.
WORKING ON THOSE THREE PROJECTS OR ONE OF THEM AT LEAST.
GEORGE, HOW MUCH, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S YOUR GUT SAYING, BUT IF THEY WERE GONNA DO WHAT, LIKE PUT YOUR GUT AND HOW MUCH IT WOULD COST CONSTRUCTION? NO, NO, NO, NO.
JUST, JUST LIKE AN A FEASIBILITY ANALYSIS THAT WOULD GIVE US LIKE PROJECT A, A DT, UM, LOOKING AT OPTIONS FOR ROADWAY IN A HIGH LEVEL COST ESTIMATE.
OH, YOU THINK THAT WILL, OKAY.
WE DON'T HOW FAR DOWN THE ROAD YOU GET TO GO ALL THE WAY TO 17.
I THINK WE SHOULD DO THE WHOLE PROJECT BECAUSE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT FOSTER CALLED ME ABOUT WAS I NEEDED TO BE PREPARED TO ANSWER WHY AREN'T WE LOOKING AT A PIECEMEAL? AND I SAID, AND I TOLD FOSTER, I SAID, I UNDERSTAND THAT'S A LOGICAL ASSUMPTION IS THAT YOU CAN DO A PIECEMEAL, HOWEVER, WE HAVE TO GET THE BIG PICTURE FIRST TO FIGURE OUT HOW THEY'RE GONNA PIECEMEAL IT BECAUSE YOU, THERE'S A, IT'S A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN JUST PUTTING IT IN THE SIDEWALK THERE IN SOME OF THESE AREAS.
LIKE FOR DRAINAGE, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHERE'S YOUR DRAINAGE BASIN, WHAT'S, WHERE'S THE SLOPE WHERE WE STOP? I MEAN IT A LOT MORE COMPLICATED THAN JUST LET ME GO FROM POINT A TO POINT B PUTTING ON SOME SIDEWALK.
UM, BUT I THINK WE SHOULD DO, IF WE'RE GONNA DO AN ANALYSIS IT NEEDS, HUH? YEAH.
SO, BUT I'M SURE THAT'S GONNA QUESTIONS LIKE, WELL HOW MUCH DOES IT COST FOR TO DO EVEN THAT YOU HAVE TO PUT OUT FOR RFQ? WHY NOT THAT VOLUME? SO, I MEAN, WHAT'D YOU SAY? 75 OR A HUNDRED? ONE 20.
SO I MEAN IF TRENT, IF I, MY RECOMMENDATION IF I WAS ASKED, I WOULD SAY, I THINK THE NEXT STEP SHOULD BE A FEASIBILITY STUDY FOR ENTIRE TRENT ROAD FROM 17 TO, SO WHY DON'T WE JUST MAKE THAT A RECOMMENDATION? YEAH.
CAN WE JUST ASK THAT? CAN WE JUST ASK, JUST ASK THAT SO THAT THEY DON'T, UM, DO SOME OR POINT US IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO GO OR DON'T GIVE US THE
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INFORMATION THAT WE WANT 'CAUSE WE'RE BEING VAGUE OR WHATEVER IT IS THAT MY CONCERN IS, IS I DON'T ASK FOR, AND AND I'M CARRIE AND GEORGE, I, HOW, HOW DOES THE BOARD REACT WHEN YOU PUT THEM ON? LIKE IS PUT 'EM ON THE SPOT? YES.I WOULD NOT ANTICIPATE AN ANSWER TO A FUNDING REQUEST.
I WOULDN'T, I THINK THAT WOULD BE, UM, YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD SAY, I'M JUST ASKING IF WE PROPOSE A QUESTION.
DO WHATEVER IT IS YOU NEED TO DO TO GET BACK TO US.
I CERTAINLY WOULDN'T WANT TO BE PUT ON THE SPOT ITSELF.
IT HELPS US WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL PROJECT LAID OUT.
SO THEN THE CONSTRUCTION CAN ACTUALLY BE PIECEMEAL.
YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY IT'S DIFFICULT FOR EACH COMMUNITY TO FUND AN ENTIRE LARGE PROJECT.
BUT, AND DOING A COMPREHENSIVE, UM, ANALYSIS IS PROBABLY, UM, MORE ECONOMICAL BECAUSE YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO DO ANOTHER RFI AND YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE TO GET ANOTHER START FROM SCRATCH ALL OVER AGAIN.
SO YOU HAVE THE ONE BIG PICTURE AND THEN, THEN YOU CAN DECIDE HOW WE'RE GONNA ATTACK.
AND A LOT OF THAT'S A GOOD POINT.
A LOT OF THE GRANTS THAT, THAT MIGHT BE AVAILABLE, WOULD THEY, FOR CONSTRUCTION, THEY WANT A DETAILED COST ESTIMATE.
LIKE YOU CAN'T GO IN WITH A, THEY WANTED ENGINEERS ESTIMATE.
AND SO THIS WOULD HELP GET US CLOSER TO THAT.
SO THAT WOULD ANSWER THAT SITUATION.
THIS WHOLE THING STARTED BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SOME DARN T-SHIRTS.
SO WHAT'S THE NEXT STEP? SO AGAIN, CAN, CAN WE JUST HAVE PEOPLE PRESENT SOME DRAWINGS? WHAT IS THE NEXT STEP? SO I THINK THAT COMES BACK TO THAT LAST SLIDE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT THE COMMUNITY DESIRES TO IDENTIFY FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES MM-HMM
SO I REALLY WAS GONNA LEAD WITH THAT.
YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU LEARNED THAT EMERALD ISLAND WAS VERY SUCCESSFUL IN RAISING SOME CAPITAL MONEY TO OFFSET SOME CONSTRUCTION COSTS.
AND THAT YOU ARE INTERESTED IN HAVING THAT A SIMILAR, OR HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD ON OPTIONS BECAUSE IT GETS A LITTLE COMPLICATED WHEN, UM, AS A GOVERNMENT WE'RE FUNDRAISING IN IN, UM, AND COLLECTING FUNDS.
AND, AND SO WE, IT IT'S A LITTLE, IT GETS A LITTLE MUDDY.
UM, AND SO WE NEED TO JUST HAVE THAT CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD.
ONE ARE, IS THAT SOMETHING THEY SUPPORT? AND IF THEY DO, WHAT ARE THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR HOW WE SHOULD GO FORWARD? UM, OKAY.
DIDN'T WE ASK THAT IN THE LAST TIME, THE LAST MEETING, UM, WE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS AND UM, I THINK ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS WAS THAT WE NEEDED TO FORM A 5 0 1 3 C AND THEN LIKE, BUT THEN THAT REQUIRES SOMEBODY HAS TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT.
AND THAT GETS A LITTLE MORE COMPLICATED THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE.
COULDN'T YOU USE SWISS BAY? THAT'S WHAT IT'S SAYING.
I MEAN, THOSE ARE, THESE ARE THE TYPE OF CONVERSATIONS THAT WE NEED TO HAVE.
WE NEED THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE BOARD, THEN WE CAN FIGURE OUT THE DETAILS OF HOW TO MAKE IT WORK.
SO WHEN, SO, SO WHEN WE ASK FOR THEIR SUPPORT IN THE LAST MEETING, THEN THEY CAME BACK AND SAID, DO THIS PRESENTATION TO US.
NO STAFF WENT TO THE MANAGER AND SAID, WE GAVE A PRESENT, MEMBERS GAVE A PRESENTATION AND WE HAVEN'T GOT ANY DIRECTION.
WE NEED DIRECTION FROM MANAGEMENT ON HOW TO PROCEED.
AND THAT'S WHEN IT WAS RECOMMENDED THAT WE DO THE PRESENTATION.
SO THAT, THAT WE HAVE DEDICATED TIME FOR THEM TO ASK QUESTIONS.
SO, SO THEN WE JUST NEED TO ASK AGAIN.
SO THAT'S WHERE I'M GONNA ASK THAT MEMBERS DESIRE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION AND WE NEED GUIDANCE.
SO IF THEY APPOINT, I MEAN, IN MY MIND IT'S, IT IS AS SIMPLE AS APPOINT SOMEONE FROM THE BOARD TO BE ON THE COMMITTEE AND WE HAVE THESE CONVERSATIONS.
BUT IF YOU'RE NOT GONNA APPOINT SOMEONE FROM THE COMMITTEE, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION.
SO RATHER THAN SAY OR DESIRE TO IDENTIFY OR WHATEVER, OH, SEEKING, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU SAID, BUT CAN WE ASK THEM DIRECT QUESTIONS LIKE YOU ARE SEEKING REPRESENTATION, BUT THEN CAN WE SAY, UM, CAN WE DO THE SWISS BEAR ACCOUNT? DO YOU SEE IF WE, WE COME UP WITH THE IDEAS AND JUST ASK THE SPECIFIC IDEA? YEAH.
RATHER THAN THEIR DIRECTION, THE PLATFORM TO ASK THEM QUESTIONS.
WE'RE, WE'RE GIVING A, WE'RE WE'RE UPDATING THEM KNOWING THAT THEY'RE GONNA ASK SOME ASK US QUESTIONS, BUT WE DON'T ASK THEM QUESTIONS.
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? MM-HMM
SO I'M HOPING THAT BY PUTTING THIS IN ON TV AND THAT IT'S OUT IN THE PUBLIC, THAT THEY KNOW THAT YOU, YOU AS COMMITTEE MEMBERS ARE WANTING DIRECTION.
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THEY'RE SITTING HERE, THEN WE CAN SAY, CAN WE USE A SWISS BEAR ACCOUNT? AND THEY CAN SAY YES.WELL BRING IT UP TO THE BOARD TO DECIDE.
WHAT WE CAN'T DO IS JUST SAY, WE'RE LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE, LOTS OF STEPS.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M STRUGGLING WORKING WITH THE MILITARY FOR THE LAST HALF A CENTURY.
AND THE WAY YOU DO IT IN THE MILITARY IS YOU GIVE THEM COURSES OF REC, COURSES OF ACTION.
AND THEN YOU WILL INEVITABLY HAVE A RECOMMENDED COURSE OF ACTION.
AND THAT, THAT'S WHAT THEY WILL VOTE ON.
AND I DON'T, AND I DON'T THINK WE'RE THERE YET.
SO I'M HOPING IF EVER, I MEAN IF I HAD TO HOPE, I WOULD SAY I GIVE THEM THE PRESENTATION, HERE'S WHERE IT IS, AND I'M GONNA SAY LIKE, EMERALD'S AISLE AND THEN, AND JUST TEASE 'EM WITH SOME INFORMATION AND THEN HAVE 'EM SAY WE'RE INTERESTED IN LEARNING MORE.
GO AND FIND INFORMATION AND THEN REPORT BACK.
'CAUSE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE, UM, THE CITY MANAGER AND THE BOARD THROUGH WEEKLY REPORTS AND THAT KIND OF STUFF.
SO WE CAN, WE CAN PUT THE INFORMATION IN THERE AND THEN WE'LL SEEK GUIDANCE FROM THE MANAGER ON NEXT STEPS.
THEN, THEN WE CAN GIVE THE, UH, CODYS AT THE NEXT LETTER.
UM, OKAY, NOW I, READING THAT TOP LINE AGAIN.
DESIRE TO IDENTIFY FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES.
ARE WE REALLY TRYING TO IDENTIFY FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES? I'M NOT, I'M TRYING TO GO FORWARD WITH THE FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITY OF MAKING THE T-SHIRTS.
WELL, AND MY THOUGHT WAS TO MAKE IT MORE GENERAL IN CASE THEY DIDN'T LIKE THE T-SHIRT IDEA.
MAYBE THEY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE LIKE PARTNERING WITH BUSINESSES.
LIKE I DIDN'T WANT, I DIDN'T WANNA PIGEONHOLE US INTO LIKE ONE THING.
IT WAS MORE OF A WE DESIRE TO RAISE FUNDS.
I, I LIKE IT WHEN I GET SOME FEEDBACK BECAUSE THEN I, I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY YOU WROTE THAT A LITTLE BIT.
'CAUSE WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, LOOKING AT BUSINESSES THAT WOULD BENEFIT IF WE WERE ABLE TO PUT IN SOME TYPE OF SIDEWALK.
ARE THEY WILLING AND ABLE TO MAYBE PARTICIPATE AT SOME LEVEL? I DON'T KNOW.
AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE IF WE LOOK AT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO, YOU KNOW, WHERE YOU, YOU BUY BRICKS AND YOU BUY LIKE SECTIONS OF SIDEWALK, RIGHT? OKAY.
SO YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE GREAT OP NO, I JUST CAME UP WITH THAT ONE.
SO THE DESIRE TO IDENTIFY FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES, WE'RE SEEKING DIRECTION IN THE DESIRE.
SO WHAT ARE YOU ASKING OF THEM? SO THEY'RE THE, THE HEADER AND THE BULLETS ARE NOT MEANT TO BE READ TOGETHER.
SO WE'RE SEEKING DIRECTION, OKAY.
ON POSSIBLE FUNDRAISING OPPORTUNITIES THAT BECAUSE THE MEMBERS DESIRE TO, THEY WANT TO PURSUE SOMETHING SO WE CAN START IMPLEMENTING AND CONSTRUCTING MM-HMM
THAT YOU WISH TO IDENTIFY WHAT'S THE NEXT PRIORITY? WHAT, WHAT DO YOU WANT TO, WHAT DO YOU, WHAT DOES THE BOARD WANT YOU TO WORK ON? OKAY.
BECAUSE AT THIS POINT, THERE'S NOTHING LEFT IN THE PLAN FOR TO RIGHT.
THAT'S WHY IT'S FUNDRAISING TO ME.
FUNDRAISING AND THEN SAFETY IS CAN BE AN ONGOING, BUT, BUT DEFINITELY FUNDRAISING SO WE CAN GET SOME OF THESE PROJECTS.
AND THEN TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR BOARD REPRESENTATION BECAUSE HAVING SOMEONE ON THE BOARD HELPS ANSWER SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS.
SO THE EXPECTATION IS NOT THAT THE FUNDRAISER IS GONNA COVER 100% OF THIS VILLAGE.
BUT IT'S ALL, IT'S ALL INVOLVEMENT.
IT'S ALL JUST, EVERYTHING KIND OF GETS BIGGER THE MORE PEOPLE YOU HAVE.
SO OF COURSE, I MEAN, A $20 T-SHIRT'S NOT GONNA FUND A MILLION DOLLAR PROJECT.
BUT
I MEAN IF, AND IF WE HAD SOMEONE FROM THE BOARD, WE COULD GO INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL ABOUT HOW THEY TURNED THE T-SHIRT INTO PAYING FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THE TRAIL.
IT STARTED OFF AS A T-SHIRT, BUT IT ENDED UP THE T-SHIRT ENDED UP, YOU BILL IT, THEY WILL COME TYPE THING.
AND SO WHILE WE DON'T HAVE, IT'S ALL ENERGY, WHILE WE DON'T HAVE A DEDICATED TRAIL, THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN STILL APPLY THE SAME CONCEPT FOR IMPROVEMENTS HERE.
AND THAT'S JUST ONE FUNDRAISER, RIGHT? THE BRICK, EVERYTHING.
SO, SO WHO BIG PICTURE, WHO'S I KNOW MARY, YOU CAN'T COME TOMORROW? UM, MR. OVERMAN? I CAN'T.
AND I THINK BEN'S GOING TO BE THERE, SO, UM, I COULD REACH OUT AND SEE IF HE COULD BE THERE.
AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST FOR SUPPORT BECAUSE I DON'T MIND GIVING THE PRESENTATION, BUT I DON'T WANT THEM THINK, I MEAN, I WANT, IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU WERE THERE TO, I CAN SAY I'M SPEAKING FOR THEM.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON PRESENTATION? DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, CONCERNS, THOUGHTS? WHAT'S THE TIMING PLEASE? UM, IT'S TOMORROW AT FIVE 30 IN CITY HALL.
DON'T, DON'T HURRY TO GET THERE BECAUSE WE'RE AFTER THE BUDGET PRESENTATION.
AND LIKE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MIKEY PE
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WELL, LAST TIME WE WERE WRAPPED THERE WAS A POLICE CHIEF DID A GOOD JOB.
DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY THOUGHTS OR CONCERNS, QUESTIONS ON ANYTHING? OKAY.
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GONNA TALK ABOUT IS PEDESTRIAN SAFETY CAMPAIGN.AND ABBY, THAT WAS, SHE GOT HERE AND I SAID, I REALLY WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO JUMP ON A, A PEDESTRIAN SAFETY CAMPAIGN.
AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT.
UM, AND SO SHE IS GOING TO WALK US THROUGH HER IDEAS, WHAT SHE'S GATHERED SO FAR AND, AND GETTING DIRECTION FROM YOU GUYS.
SO I JUST KIND OF WENT AT IT WITH LOOKING AT BIG PICTURE.
WHAT DO WE WANT THIS TO LOOK LIKE? AND THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I WANTED TO START WITH ASKING Y'ALL.
UM, SO I WANTED TO POINT OUT A FEW OF THE ONES THAT I FOUND INTERESTING AND LIKED.
UM, SO THE TOP WITH THE GREEN AND THEN WE HAVE THE ORANGE AT THE BOTTOM, THE BE A LOOKER.
IF Y'ALL WANTED TO GO FOR SOMETHING THAT WAS MORE OF A CATCHY SLOGAN, UM, BRIGHT COLORS, WE COULD DO THAT AS LIKE A SOCIAL MEDIA AS A WEBSITE, A FLYER, UM, LITTLE STAKES IN THE GROUND, YARD SIGNS, THAT KIND OF THING.
AND THEN THE DRIVERS, UH, STOCK FOR DUCKS.
THAT'S WHEN THE DMV, I THOUGHT THAT ONE WAS CUTE BECAUSE EVERYBODY STOPS FOR ANIMALS, BUT PEOPLE WON'T STOP FOR OTHER PEOPLE.
SO I THOUGHT THAT ONE WAS CUTE.
AND YEAH, JUST SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT FUNNIER.
UM, MAYBE FOR LIKE A ONE OFF POST OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
AND THEN, LIKE DAN WAS SAYING, THE WATCH FOR ME AND SEE THAT WE ARE A PART OF, THEY ONLY HAVE JUST A ONE OFF WEBSITE.
UH, IT'S LITERALLY JUST A PAGE.
BUT IF WE CAN INCORPORATE SOMETHING LIKE THAT ONTO THE NPOS WEBSITE, UM, JUST TO HIGHLIGHT RULES OF THE ROAD, IT'S A LITTLE SMALL UP THERE, BUT THEY'VE GOT MOTORISTS, BICYCLISTS OF PEDESTRIANS AND JUST GENERAL KNOWLEDGE THAT EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW, BUT SOME PEOPLE DON'T SEEM TO KNOW KIND OF THING.
ZEBRA CROSSING PEOPLE,
AND I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY CLOSE CALLS I'VE HAD BEFORE THE LIGHT CAME IN ON, UH, MIDDLE AND BROAD.
I MEAN, THEY, THEY JUST REALLY GET UPSET AT YOU FOR WALKING ACROSS.
SO I THINK IT'S AN, I MEAN, THEY'RE NOT JUST TRYING TO KILL, PRESUME THEY'RE NOT TRYING TO KILL PEOPLE.
SO I THINK IT'S JUST AN EDUCATION THING.
THEY DON'T KNOW IF THAT SYMBOL MEANS.
YEAH, I, THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING IS EDUCATION IS THE BIGGEST PART OF IT.
UM, AND JUST FIND WAYS TO GET PEOPLE'S ATTENTION TO BE EDUCATED AND BE OPEN TO THAT EDUCATION SYSTEM.
UM, AND THE BOTTOM TWO ARE JUST GENERAL.
YOU NEED TO LEARN THE SIGNS, YOU NEED TO KNOW YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE LIGHT, YOU GO WITH THE TRAFFIC WHEN IT'S GREEN, YOU DON'T GO WHEN IT'S RED KIND OF THING.
UM, AND WANTED TO GET YOUR IDEAS ON THAT.
AND THEN THE NEXT THING, IT WAS JUST SOME STRATEGIES THAT I WAS THINKING OF AS FAR AS SOCIAL MEDIA.
UM, THE MCO IS PLANNING ON RUNNING SOME THINGS MAYBE ONCE A WEEK, TWICE A WEEK ON GENERAL RULES OF THE ROAD.
UM, AND THEN ADDING SOMETHING INTO THE WEBSITE IF Y'ALL WANTED THAT.
UM, AND THEN MAYBE LATER ON, SINCE THIS IS KIND OF A PASSIVE START AND WE WANT TO JUST KIND OF HAVE THINGS OUT THERE BUT NOT REALLY DO ANYTHING BIG, SOME FLYERS OF ROAD SIGNS, UM, BANNERS.
THEY'VE GOT THOSE HANDOUTS LIKE YOU SEE IN THAT TOP PICTURE WITH THE 22 ON IT.
UM, THE QR CODE THAT YOU WOULD SCAN THAT WOULD TAKE YOU TO THE WEBSITE.
WE'VE ALSO THOUGHT ABOUT QR CODES AROUND TOWN, UM, THAT YOU WOULD SCAN AND IT WOULD TAKE YOU TO THE WEBSITE AS WELL.
UM, THE TRAFFIC CIRCLE TYPE PAINTING ON THE GROUND JUST TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT ARE LOOKING AT THEIR PHONES TO BE CAUTIOUS OF THE DRIVERS INSTEAD OF THE DRIVERS IN THE PEDESTRIANS.
UM, AND THEN SOME ENGAGEMENT AND EVENTS LATER DOWN THE ROAD AROUND MAYBE SCHOOL ZONES, THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE WE HAVE UPCOMING BIKE RODEO THAT WE ARE PARTICIPATING IN.
SO IF WE COULD GET SOME ENGAGEMENT WITH THAT AS WELL.
UM, AND MAYBE GET A FEW THINGS STARTED BEFORE THEN.
THAT WAY WE CAN HAVE SOMETHING AT THE BIKE RODEO.
THE CITY OF JACKSONVILLE, UM, THEY IMPLEMENTED FOR THE LOOKOUT BEFORE YOU STEP OUT.
THEY IMPLEMENTED SOMETHING LIKE THAT AND ALL THEY DID WAS THEY CREATED A STENCIL AND THEY PRESSURE WASHED IT IN THE CROSSINGS.
AND SO THAT OTHER THAN TIME IT DIDN'T REALLY COST ANYTHING.
IT'S BEEN OUT THERE FOR A COUPLE OF YEARS.
UM, AND THAT WORKED, I THINK WORKED REALLY WELL.
AND THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, LIKE WE MENTIONED, THE SAFE ROUTES FOR SCHOOL.
THEY ALWAYS HAVE THE BICYCLE CAMPAIGN, LIKE AWARENESS CAMPAIGN WHERE IT'S LIKE WALK TO SCHOOL, BIKE TO SCHOOL.
SO WE CAN PARTNER WITH THAT IN THE QR CODES THAT SHE MENTIONED.
JUST AS A REMINDER, THAT WAS SOMETHING WHERE WE WERE LOOKING AT PARTNERING WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES AND MAKING SOME TYPE OF LOGO WITH THE QR CODE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING CATCHY LIKE SHE SHOWED IN THE BEGINNING WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEONE WHO'S MIGHT BE FROM OUT OF TOWN WOULD LIKE, OH, WHAT IS THAT?
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AND THEY SCAN THE QR CODE AND IT'S LIKE, OH, I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THAT IS.UM, SO IT, IT WILMINGTON'S HAD THAT FOR A WHILE, THE BE A LOOKER CAMPAIGN.
AND IT WAS VERY INTERESTING 'CAUSE IT'S VERY CATCHY.
AND THEN YOU HAVE THE QR CODE AND YOU'RE JUST LIKE, OH, WHAT IS THIS? UM, SO I THINK THAT HELPS EDUCATE.
THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT EVEN THOUGH THOSE OF US AROUND HERE KNOW THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO STOP THAT THEY DON'T.
AND I THINK THAT'S ALSO TO THE PEDESTRIANS.
AT WHAT POINT DO YOU STOP? LIKE IF YOU'RE IN THE CROSSWALK, THAT MEANS YOU'RE READY TO CROSS.
SO DON'T BE STANDING IN THE CROSSWALK UNTIL YOU'RE READY TO STOP BECAUSE THEN PEOPLE WOULD STOP.
SO HAVE YOU THOUGHT ABOUT, UM, LIKE SHARE THE ROAD BUMPER STICKERS? MM-HMM
WE'RE, I MEAN WE AT THIS POINT WE'RE LOOKING, I MEAN WE'VE GOT GENERAL IDEAS.
UM, ABBY'S DONE A LOT OF RESEARCH ON SIMILAR CAMPAIGNS, SO WE KNOW EXACTLY, WE KNOW 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA COPY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WHAT OTHERS HAVE DONE.
SO WE'RE, AND SO PUTTING ON THE WEBSITE AND ALL THAT IS EASY, BUT ULTIMATELY WE'RE LOOKING FOR YOUR IDEAS AND SUGGESTIONS OF ANYTHING THAT MIGHT BE MORE CATCHY.
YOU KNOW, LIKE A SLOGAN LIKE THE BE A LOOKER OR THE, YOU KNOW, THE DRIVER STOP FOR DUCKS, YOU KNOW, THAT KIND OF THING.
SOMETHING LIKE THAT WOULD BE INTRIGUING CATCHING THAT'S FROM A MARKETING STANDPOINT MAKES IT VERY EASY FOR YOU TO JUMP ON BOARD AND WANT TO BE PART OF THE SAFETY CAMPAIGN.
COULD YOU DO SOMETHING WITH THE POLICE? 'CAUSE SOME PEOPLE PAY ATTENTION TO IT.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE EDUCATION PIECE.
UM, THERE'S BEEN OTHER SUCCESSFUL CAMPAIGNS LIKE THIS WHERE THEY'VE PARTNERED WITH THE POLICE AND UM, RATHER THAN GIVING OUT TICKETS, THEY ACTUALLY GIVE OUT LIKE REWARDS.
UM, SO IF THEY SEE A CHILD WHO, UM, OR A YOUNGER PERSON WHO IS OBEYING THE LAW, THEN RATHER THAN GIVING THE TICKET, YOU GET LIKE A TICKET FOR ICE CREAM.
LIKE YOU CAN GO GET A FREE ICE CREAM SOMEWHERE.
UM, SO THAT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD LOOK AT.
AND WE'VE GOT LOTS OF IDEAS, BUT AT THIS POINT, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE, BUT NOW THAT ABBY'S HERE, SHE'S GONNA START REALLY KIND OF DIGGING INTO THE DETAILS A LITTLE BIT.
AND I WASN'T AT THE LAST MEETING SO I DON'T KNOW WHERE Y'ALL'S HEADS WERE AT ON THINGS.
SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE'RE BRINGING IT UP AGAIN AS WELL.
YEAH, WE DIDN'T, WE DIDN'T GET INTO THIS AT ALL.
YOU'VE ONLY DONE IT AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL.
YEAH, WE DID THE BIKE RODEO LAST YEAR.
UM, SO I'M JUST GOING TO PUT MY INPUT.
SO THE BE A LOOKER, THE BIKE IS ILLEGAL SO WE CAN'T USE THAT BECAUSE YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE OFF YOUR BIKE WALKING IN ACROSS THE UM, CROSSWALK.
AND THE DRIVER STOP FOR DUCKS.
IF YOU LOOK AT THE DUCKS, YOU DON'T EVEN READ AND YOU'RE SAYING, OH OF COURSE THOSE.
SO I THINK YOU SHOULD DELETE THAT.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE IS THE ONE I WANT.
UM, SO THE OTHER TWO AT THE TOP, I LIKE, I, THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS AND I THINK THIS IS GREAT.
DID YOU, DID YOU, YOU FOUND THESE, I FOUND 'EM.
UM, THE
I THINK THE TOP ONE IS FROM SAN FRANCISCO.
UM, I LIKE THE GREEN ONE AND THEY'VE GOT LIKE DRIVE LIKE YOUR FRIEND, DRIVE LIKE YOUR MOM, DRIVE LIKE YOUR DAD.
UM, ALL SORTS OF PEOPLE ARE IN THE CROSSWALK.
UM, SO IT'S PRETTY EASY TO APPLY.
WE WOULD JUST HAVE TO CHANGE IT SO IT'S NOT A DIRECT COPY OF THIS SOMEHOW.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK? YEAH, IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE ANY OF THESE.
I'M JUST SAYING IF SHE'S GOING, IF SHE'S SEARCHING FOR THESE AND WE DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM, SO WHY, YOU KNOW, UNLESS SOMEONE'S GOT A GREAT IDEA.
BUT I, I WOULD SAY I'M NOT REALLY FAMILIAR WITH.
SO WE KIND OF WANT TO GO IN THE DIRECTION OF MORE OF A SLOGAN FOR SOME THINGS AND THEN FOCUS ON THE EDUCATION IS WHAT I'M HEARING.
SO YOU DON'T WANT TO, YOU WANT GO WITH THE CARROT INSTEAD OF THE STICK.
I'M GONNA STICK KIND OF FURTHER LIKE WE'RE COP SAY, YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT ONLY A GOOD IDEA, IT'S THE LAW KIND OF THING.
I MEAN YOU CAN PUT THAT IN THIS ONE.
ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS AS WE, UM, THIS IS BEFORE ABBY GOT HERE, BUT I WAS TALKING WITH UM, LIEUTENANT SHELTON AT UM, THE UM, POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND I THINK THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO PARTNER TOGETHER FOR AWARENESS.
IT'S JUST A MATTER OF PUTTING SOMETHING ON THE CALENDAR.
BUT WE WANTED TO WAIT UNTIL WE HAD SOME TYPE OF RESOURCE THAT WE CAN HAND OUT.
SO ONCE WE CAN GET THE RESOURCE BUILT, THEN WE CAN START LOOKING FOR THOSE PARTNERS.
SO CAN I JUST ASK YOU, WOULD YOU USE LIKE THAT GREEN LOGO AT THE TOP AND THEN INCORPORATE INSTEAD OF YOUR FRIENDS IN THE CROSSWALK? COULD YOU DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT? I CAN, YEAH.
WHAT WORD DO YOU GUYS WANT TO DO? COME ON.
SPIT, SPIT OUT SOMETHING THAT YOU THINK WOULD BE A GOOD PICTURE FOR YOUR GREAT SLOGAN.
I WOULD DO SOMETHING THAT, UH, PARALLELS
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CURRENT LAW.I THINK PEOPLE RESPOND REALLY WELL TO THE LAW HERE.
UM, THERE'S NOTHING UP THERE THAT TALKS ABOUT YOU CAN CROSS A DOUBLE YELLOW LINE TO, TO PASS A CYCLIST.
AND THAT AND I, WE CAN INCORPORATE THAT AS WELL.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE ON THE WEBSITE SIDE OF THINGS AS LIKE A MORE DETAILED EXPLANATION.
'CAUSE I, I RIDE A BIKE A LOT AND I HAD PEOPLE WHO WOULD COME WITHIN THREE INCHES OF ME RATHER THAN TOUCH THE A SO RISK MY LIFE.
THERE'S SO MANY OF US THAT ACTUALLY LEARNED THAT YOU, IF THERE'S A CYCLIST YOU CAN PASS IN THE DOUBLE YELLOW IF THERE'S A DOUBLE YELLOW.
I'VE HAD MULTIPLE PEOPLE TELL ME THEY DID NOT KNOW THAT.
AND I'M LIKE, YES, I LOOKED IT UP.
SO, BUT YES AND WE'RE GONNA COME UP WITH SEVERAL AND SO IT'LL BE, YOU KNOW, WE WE, WE WON'T JUST HAVE ONE, JUST A LOT OF THESE HAVE SEVERAL THAT ARE, YOU CAN INCORPORATE EITHER SOCIAL MEDIA OR BUMPER STICKERS OR YARD SIGNS OR WHATEVER.
UM, IT'S JUST GETTING STARTED TO KIND OF SOME GENERAL LIKE WHAT DO YOU LIKE AND DON'T LIKE SOMETHING? DO YOU HAVE ENOUGH GUIDANCE YOU THINK? I THINK SO, YEAH.
AND THEN OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS WE CAN, YOU KNOW, SHE'LL BE WORKING ON SOME IDEAS AND WE CAN COME BACK WITH SOME SUGGESTIONS AT THE NEXT MEETING.
AND THEN MY LAST SLIDE, UM, WAS JUST SOME GOALS THAT I HAD, UM, THAT I WANTED TO DOUBLE CHECK WITH Y'ALL AND MAKE SURE THEY WERE KIND OF ON THE TARGET OF THE DIRECTION YOU WANTED TO GO WITH THIS CAMPAIGN.
UM, AND MAKE SURE WE WERE TARGETING DOING THE RIGHT THING AND GETTING OUT EDUCATION, FOCUSING ON TRAFFIC LAWS, FOCUSING ON THE BEST PRACTICES, DIFFERENT RESPONSIBILITIES AND UM, ENGAGING WITH THE PUBLIC THROUGH THIS AWARENESS CAMPAIGN.
YEAH, THERE'S ENOUGH UM, ORGANIZATIONS WHERE IF WE JUST GO TO THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS AND GIVE A FIVE MINUTE PRESENTATION, IT'S NOT GONNA BE ONEROUS OR ANYTHING.
AND JUST GIVE THOSE LITTLE DATA BITS THAT THEY NEED TO, TO MAKE THEMSELVES SAFER.
MAYBE THAT'S COULD BE YOUR HOMEWORK WHILE WE'RE WORKING IS THAT MAYBE YOU CAN HELP US COME UP WITH A LIST OF THOSE ORGANIZATIONS FOR US THAT WE COULD GO ONCE WE HAVE OUR, ALL OF OUR DATA POINTS THAT WE CAN UM, TAKE ALL OF YOUR LISTS AND COME AND REACH BACK OUT AND, AND TRY TO MAKE SOME OF THOSE UM, KEY POINTS.
AND THEN IF WE GET A STANDARDIZED BRIEFING WITH A FEW SLIDES, THEN WE'LL HAVE SEND OUT A CONSISTENT MESSAGE.
UM, I WILL HAVE TO SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS WELL EDUCATED ON BYLAWS, UM, JUST BECAUSE THEY DON'T CONCENTRATE ON THAT VERY MUCH.
SO I THINK IF WE PRESENT ANYTHING WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE KNOW THE LAWS
I ACTUALLY GOT PULLED OVER BY A POLICE OFFICER FOR NOT WEARING A HELMET AND I TOLD HER YEAH, I THOUGHT THAT I DIDN'T HAVE, I THOUGHT WELL WAS ONLY THE LAW FOR CHILDREN.
SHE SAID NO EVERYBODY HAS TO WEAR A HELMET.
I DON'T KNOW WHETHER SHE WAS WRONG.
IS IT UBER LAW OR I HAVE NO IDEA.
IT WAS NEW POLICE OFFICER AND ALSO I WITNESSED, BUT I THINK SHE WAS A POLICE OFFICER DOING A WRONG HAND SIGNAL.
SO, UM, I THINK, I THINK THAT JUST, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY KNOW THE LAWS IF THEY'RE GOING TO HELP US OUT.
AND AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD BE EMBARRASSED TO SAY THEY DON'T.
YEAH, NO, WE'RE GONNA CHECK DOWN
SO SO I JUST, YEAH, I JUST WANT POINT THAT OUT.
WHAT COULD DO IS WE COULD JUST HAVE THAT, HAVE THEM THEME AS ONE OF OUR STAKEHOLDERS AND SO AS WE'RE DEVELOPING INFORMATION WE CAN JUST RUN, ADVISE THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S CORRECT.
AND THAT WAY THEY CAN RESEARCH IT AND MAKE SURE YEAH.
WE, WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT ALL OKAY, THAT'S AWESOME.
YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER THOUGHTS OR IDEAS? WHAT ABOUT ANY SCHOOLS? I'M SURE THEY GET THAT OVER.
UM, I THINK A LITTLE BIT, BUT NOT AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD THINK.
UM, IT IS MUCH MORE DIFFICULT TO GET INTO THE SCHOOL SYSTEMS NOW.
OH REALLY? UM, WITH HANDOUTS, ET CETERA.
BUT WE HAVE OPPORTUNITIES THROUGH A RECREATION DEPARTMENT AND THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB AND THE Y AND SOME CHURCHES.
YOU JUST LISTED ALL THE ORGANIZATIONS.
NO, KEEP THINKING THOSE ARE THE ONE MIND, BUT I MEAN THERE'S OTHER, THERE'S OTHER PLACES THAT WE CAN DEFINITELY, UM, PARTNER WITH AND THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I WAS THINKING WITH THE FLYERS AND THE ROAD SIGNS AND YARD SIGNS, UM, AT CROSSWALKS IN FRONT OF THE SCHOOLS.
JUST SO THAT THE KIDS ARE AWARE, EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT
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DIRECTLY COMMUNICATING THAT WITH THEM, THEY'LL STILL GET THE MESSAGE.UM, CARRIE, GEORGE, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY THOUGHTS OR IDEAS OR, NO, THE NEATEST THING I SAW THERE WAS POSSIBLY THE LOOKING BEFORE STEP DOWN.
TALK ABOUT FUNDRAISING POSSIBILITIES.
FUNDRAISING FOR THOSE THINGS WOULD BE AT LEAST ON THE PEDESTRIAN SIDE, BUT I I DO AGREE WITH, UH, WHAT IS, WHAT IS LEGAL WITH VEHICLES WHEN THEY'RE APPROACHING A BICYCLE.
THAT WAS ONE OF THOSE YOU DID NOT KNOW ACROSS THE YELLOW LINE EVEN THOUGH I DID IT.
ALRIGHT, WELL WE'RE GONNA HELP EDUCATE THE REST OF ALL THE S UM, ALL RIGHT, WELL OUR NEXT SCHEDULE MEETING IS JULY 7TH.
UM, AND SO WE'LL SEND OUT REMINDERS LIKE WE DO TYPICALLY AND WE'LL CONTINUE WORKING ON, UM, BUILDING THE WEBSITE, ET CETERA.
AND IF WE MAKE, UM, A LOT OF PROGRESS BETWEEN NOW AND THEN, THEN WE'LL SEND YOU THE LINK FOR YOU TO CHECK IT OUT.
'CAUSE WE CAN, WE CAN SHARE THAT LINK BEFORE IT GOES LIVE.
UM, BUT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE? I'VE BEEN WORKING ON THE NPO WEBSITE, SO THERE MIGHT BE CHANGES TO THAT AS WELL IF YOU'VE TAKEN A LOOK AT IT.
BUT I THINK YOU WOULD HOST BY HEAD ON N P'S WEBSITE JUST AS A LITTLE TIME.
THERE'S NOTHING, NOTHING FURTHER FOR THE GROUP THEN WE STAND ADJOURNED.