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LIKE TO CALL THIS,[Municipal Service District Meeting Work Session on May 9, 2025. ]
UH, WORK SESSION OF THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO ORDER AND ASK THAT WE HAVE A ROLL CALL.THAT'S, SO YOU GOT ALL THE MEMBERS.
IT'S JUST THE EX OFFICIOS, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, ALDERMAN.
UM, BEFORE WE, ARE WE NOW? AM I, WE'RE NOT ON, AM I ON THE STILL ON THE BOARD OR, OH, YEAH.
WE NEED TO HAVE AN OFFICIAL LIST PRINTED FOR HER SO SHE COULD HAVE IT.
AND MIKE SHOW ALL PRESENT EXCEPT FOR, UM, GEORGE OLIVER AND ALDERMAN'S REAL.
OH, AND ALSO, UM, KAREN AS OUR EX OFFICIO AS WELL.
UM, BEFORE WE GET INTO THE COURT, I WANNA REMIND EVERYBODY THIS IS A WORK SESSION, WHICH MEANS THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE, WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS ANYTHING OTHER THAN, UM, THE PROPOSED INTER CORE PROJECT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE WORKING ON TODAY.
UM, THIS MEETING WILL INVOLVE US DOING A LITTLE FIELD TRIP OUTSIDE.
SO AS LONG AS THE SUN IS SHINING, WE'RE GONNA BE OUTSIDE FOR A FEW MINUTES.
SO I WANTED TO LET EVERYBODY KNOW AND THAT, UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA BE BRINGING UP ANY OTHER PROJECTS TODAY.
'CAUSE OUR NEXT MEETING, OUR REGULAR MEETING WILL BE MAY 20TH WHEN WE DO, UM, HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS PROPOSED PROJECTS OR OTHER QUESTIONS INVOLVED WITH THAT.
ALSO TOO, UH, THE, UM, GOAL OF TODAY'S WORKSHOP IS AT THE END OF THE DAY, TO GIVE SOME DIRECTION TO FOSTER SO THAT WHEN WE COME TO OUR MEETING ON MAY 20TH, WE CAN COME, UM, HAVE AN AGENDA ITEM TO VOTE.
NOW WHAT WE VOTE ON WON'T NECESSARILY BE THE END RESULT, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT IS THE PERFUME OF THE ALDERMAN TO SPEND THE FUNDS AND AGREE.
AND WE WON'T HAVE ANY FUNDS ANYWAY AT THIS POINT, 'CAUSE IT'S JUST PROPOSED.
IT HASN'T BEEN BID OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
SO I WANT EVERYBODY TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE TODAY AND GOING FORWARD.
I'D ALSO LIKE TO TAKE A MINUTE, UM, TO WELCOME, UH, OUR FRIENDS FROM GFL, CHRIS WILLIAMS, WHO'S THE GENERAL MANAGER, AND NICK MATTHEWS.
LISTEN TO ME, NICK MATTHEWS
SO, VERY INVESTED IN OUR COMMUNITY, BUT THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.
THEY'RE GONNA HELP ANSWER SOME OF OUR QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO TRASH AND COMPACTOR AND ALL OF THE ABOVE.
ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTION? ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? MOVE FORWARD.
FOSTER, I'M GONNA TURN IT OVER TO YOU, MATT.
AND, AND WHILE WE'VE GOT GFL HERE, WE DON'T WANT TO TIE THEM UP ALL DAY, BUT I'D JUST LIKE TO OPEN IT UP.
I KNOW SEVERAL PEOPLE HAVE QUESTIONS FOR GFL, AND SO THEY'RE HERE TO ANSWER WHATEVER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE REGARDING TRASH IN THE INTER COURT AREA.
I KNOW, RIGHT? WE'RE ALL IN BOND.
I THINK MY, MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS JUST, UH, WHEN WE STARTED GOING, UM, STARTED USING, UH, CONSOLIDATING ALL THE TRASH BINS, WHICH IS I THINK IS OBVIOUSLY ONE OF THE MINGLES.
AS FAR AS MY BUSINESS SIDE, I'VE GOT COST CONCERNS BECAUSE MY PRICE NEVER WENT DOWN.
SO MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IF WE'RE ALL SHARING ONE THE PRICE, I WOULD'VE THOUGHT THE PRICE WOULD'VE BEEN ONE.
DUMPSTER WOULD'VE BEEN EQUALLY SHARED.
SO I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW, HOW THE, THE PRICING IS, UM, EQUALLY AMONGST, UH, ALL THE OTHER BUSINESS FOLKS.
PLUS I HAD THREE RE UH, THREE TOTES OR THE RECYCLING TOTES, RIGHT? AND I JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE PAYING.
I JUST, I HAD NEVER SEEN MY BILL GO DOWN.
SO WHEN WE STARTED SHARING DUMPSTERS, IT NEVER WENT DOWN.
SO I JUST DIDN'T REALLY UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT CONCEPT.
AND SO BEFORE HE STARTS ABLE TO SAY TWO THINGS, ONE, YOU SHOULD BE GETTING TWO BILLS.
ONE IS FOR THE ACTUAL TRASH COLLECTION THAT COMES FROM THE CITY OF NEW BERN.
AND THEN THE OTHER IS FOR BASICALLY THE RENTAL OF THE DUMPSTERS.
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THAT, OR IF YOU'RE PARTICIPATED IN THE, UM, A C PROGRAM.I HAVE THE, THE RECYCLING CODES, AND I GET A, BUT I GET BOTH PILLS FROM GFL.
AND ONE OTHER THING, MIKE, JUST TO REMEMBER TOO, THAT WHEN YOU HAD YOUR OWN RY, YOU PAYING INTO THAT, THE PICKUP WAS ONCE A WEEK, MAYBE TWICE A WEEK.
SO THAT WAS THE DIFFERENCE TOO, THE INCREASED PICKUP, WHICH WAS INCREASED COST.
SO, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN, AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I DON'T THINK, I'M NOT, I DON'T WANT TO BE EVEN WORRIED ABOUT NO, NO, NO.
BECAUSE THIS IS MORE OF A WHOLE IS, BUT I JUST, THAT WAS ONE OF, ONE OF, ONE OF MY CONCERNS.
BUT, UM, AND THAT, THAT'S ALL, I MEAN, THAT'S ALL I HAD MY PART.
I JUST KIND OF HOPING THAT IF WE, IF WE ALL GO, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
EVEN FEWER DUMPSTERS, WHICH I THINK IS WHAT OUR GOAL IS, SO THAT OUR COMMON CORE IS BEAUTIFUL AND THAT NOT DOTTED THE TRASH.
UM, AND WHAT USUALLY HAPPENS AROUND THE TRASH CANS, UM, IS THAT HOPEFULLY WHEN WE CONSOLIDATE, IT BECOMES A LITTLE BIT MORE COST EFFECTIVE FOR US AS WELL.
CHRIS, DO YOU WANNA RESPOND TO THAT? WELL, I, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, THE EXTRA SERVICES THAT THE CITY DOESN'T OFFER, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, THE RECYCLABLE SIDE.
UM, I MEAN, WE HAVE TO SET IT UP TO WHERE EACH BUSINESS, WHOEVER, UH, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE.
IF YOU'RE A RESTAURANT THAT HAS, UH, ALCOHOL YOU'RE SERVING OR, OR SELLING, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO GO THROUGH THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, YOU HAVE TO PROVIDE TO THEM THAT YOU HAVE SERVICE.
SO YOU, YOU AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO HAVE AT LEAST A CART.
RIGHT? SO YOU AUTOMATICALLY HAVE TO HAVE THAT.
THERE'S SOME, THERE'S SOME, UH, TENANTS THAT YOU HAVE IN THAT AREA, BUSINESSES THAT WILL HAVE THAT REQUEST.
BUT SAY FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOUR BUSINESS IS PARTICIPATING MM-HMM
WE HAVE, I I'M ASSUMING THE CITY HAS, UH, LIKE YOU SET UP AS LIKE ONE PICKUP, WHEREAS WE'RE DOWN THERE THREE DAYS A WEEK.
SO WE, WE KIND OF SPREAD IT THAT WAY.
AND WE HAD THE DISCUSSION A FEW MOMENTS AGO.
IT'S KIND OF HARD FOR US, UM, AS A COMPANY TO POLICE WHO, WHO THROWS INTO EVERYBODY IS YOU CAN, YOU CAN RIDE BY AND YOU'LL SEE SOMEBODY GET OUT OF A CAR AND THROW SOMETHING AWAY, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, FROM THAT STANDPOINT, UM, YOU KNOW, WE, WE TRY, YOU KNOW, TO CONSOLIDATE THAT PORTION.
SO THERE'S NOT, LIKE IF THERE'S THREE BUSINESSES, ONE CARDBOARD, THERE'S NOT THREE CANS THERE, IT'S ONE.
BUT WE JUST ADD 'EM ALL IN TO THE ROUTING SIDE OF IT.
UM, AS FAR AS LIKE THE RENT ON IT, TYPICALLY A BUSINESS OUTSIDE THE CITY LIMITS.
AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE RENT A CONTAINER, IT, IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE SIZE.
UH, RENT'S GONNA BE A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR AN A, IT'S ROUGHLY ANYWHERE BETWEEN 75, 80 BUCKS, I THINK.
UM, WHOEVER'S RENTING CONTAINER, I LOOKED, I THINK MOST OF Y'ALL ARE PAYING 25 OR SO, 26.
SO WE TRIED TO, WHOEVER WAS REQUESTING, UM, YOU KNOW, USE OF THOSE BEHIND MORTGAGE THERE, WE, WE TRIED TO SPREAD IT OUT THAT WAY.
UM, SO WE TRIED TO DISCOUNT IT LIKE THAT.
UM, BUT YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE'VE HAD, SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE, UH, THIS LOCATION FOR FOUR YEARS, I, WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS ABOUT HOW DO WE HANDLE THE TRASH SERVICE DOWN DOWNTOWN.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE COME UP WITH A COUPLE IDEAS HOPEFULLY THAT I THINK, UH, I SENT SOME PICTURES TO GEORGE THAT I THINK HE'S GOING TO PRESENT THAT, UH, WHERE WE HAVE A SET UP AT ONE, I THINK IT'S PROXIMITY THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S AN ENCLOSURE WITH A COMPACTOR AND YOU KNOW, AND I THINK YOU CAN CONTROL WHO'S USING IT BECAUSE I CAN PUT EITHER A KEYPAD OR A KEY FOB ON IT, SO YOU'LL KNOW WHO'S GOING IN.
UM, I, I THINK, AND YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD PROBABLY HELP OUT.
AND THEN EVERYBODY PARTICIPATE THEN I THINK THAT'S THE MAIN CONCERN.
PEOPLE ARE UTILIZING THOSE CONTAINERS BACK THERE AND THEY'RE NOT HELPING IN THE COST OF IT.
JEREMY, YOU HAD A QUESTION? I DO.
WHAT IS THE SMALLEST IN SQUARE YARD CONTAINER THAT A, A LIFT TRUCK CAN EMPTY THAT YOU PROVIDE? UH, A TWO YARD.
AND YOU KNOW, THE DIMENSIONS OF A TWO YARD, TWO YARD IS GOING TO LOOK ABOUT LIKE THIS TABLE RIGHT HERE.
UH, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT SHORTER.
UM, BUT IT IS, IT IS ROUGHLY ABOUT THIS DEEP AND IT'S ABOUT, I'D SAY THREE FOOT TALL.
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NO, THEY'RE NOT.UM, I CAN, UM, THERE'S A VENDOR I USE, BUT MOST OF THOSE ARE PLASTIC.
I'D HAVE TO ORDER LIKE PLASTIC AND YOU CAN GIVE 'EM CASTERS.
UM, WHAT THERE IS A, WHAT BUSINESS IS THAT DOWNTOWN THAT THEY BOUGHT THEIR OWN.
SKY SALE, THEY HAVE SOME THAT THEY ROLL OUT.
THEY'RE FOUR YARDS THAT THEY ROLL OUT.
ANYTHING GREATER THAN A FOUR YARD, IF YOU'RE PUTTING A LOT OF TRASH IN IT, IT'S GONNA BE HARD TO HANDLE.
UM, DO YOU HAVE ANY LIKE, COMMERCIAL BUSINESSES THAT USE SMALLER CONTAINERS LIKE THAT? UH, THROUGHOUT MOST OF THEM IS, IS, IS MOST OF THEM ARE RESIDENTIAL FOR LIKE A TWO YARD OR A FOUR YARD.
WE HAVE A LOT, WELL, IN MY FOOTPRINT, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, LIKE, UH, HOMEOWNERS LIKE, YOU KNOW, OUT OUTSKIRTS OF, UH, CRAVEN COUNTY AND PANCO, THEY'LL, THEY'LL PUT 'EM AT THEIR HOUSE INSTEAD OF DOING, INSTEAD OF HAVING LIKE THREE OR FOUR RESIDENTIAL CARTS, THEY'LL DO LIKE THAT.
BUT AS FAR AS LIKE BUSINESSES, UH, ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE A RESTAURANT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, UH, IT, IT IS, IT IS IDEAL TO BE AN EIGHT YARD.
UH, IT REALLY IS CURRENTLY, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THOSE, THOSE ONES THAT ARE IN THE INTER CORE NOW, WHICH THAT HAVE REFUSE, NOT THE CARDBOARD.
THOSE ARE, THOSE ARE EIGHT YARD CONTAINERS.
I THINK THERE'S TWO, TWO, UH, EIGHT YARDS AND ONE CARDBOARD.
SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 16 YARDS OF TRASH THAT ARE EMPTIED SIX DAYS A WEEK.
AND IT, IT MEETS THE NEEDS OF THE INTERCORP CURRENT.
AND, AND THERE ANOTHER ONE BEHIND MITCHELL'S HARDWARE.
SO THAT, THAT'S THREE ROUGHLY.
SO IT'D THREE, BUT I JUST ONE CARDBOARD BACK THERE.
UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COMPACTOR? 'CAUSE YOU KNOW, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THAT.
WE JUST, I THINK IN OUR DISCUSSION THAT MANY OF US HAVE HAD, UM, WAS THAT IT WOULD BE THE, THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THE LARGEST AMOUNT OF TRASH NARROWING DOWN.
SO INSTEAD OF TWO EIGHT YARDS, WE COULD DO ONE COMPACTOR THAT WOULD TAKE THE PLACE OF THE TWO EIGHT YARDS FOR SURE.
I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE THIRD EIGHT YARD THAT WOULD HANDLE THAT AS WELL.
NOT, AND MAYBE YOU COULD DISCUSS THE CAPACITY.
YEAH, I MEAN ACTUALLY OUR COMPACTOR IS, IS, IS YOU FIGURES THREE TIMES THE RATIO.
SO IF YOU'VE GOT AN EIGHT YARD THREE TIMES, SO IT SHOULD PICK UP, YOU KNOW, 24 YARDS.
SO THE, THE CONTAINER IS, UH, WHAT WE CALL A SELF-CONTAINED.
ONE, IT'S GOING TO KIND OF CONTAIN, UH, UH, LIKE ODOR A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
UM, AND SAY FOR EXAMPLE, RESTAURANT REFUGE IS, IS A LOT WET.
SO WHEN IT COMPACTS BEING A SELF-CONTAINED IS KEEPING IT CONTAINED, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE.
UM, AND, AND SO, AND I THINK WE WERE KIND OF PLAYING WITH IT.
A LOT OF IT YOU HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THE, YOU KNOW, THE VOLUME OF WHO'S PARTICIPATING AND HOW MUCH IS GOING IN THERE.
WE COULD EASILY CUT IT DOWN TO MAYBE A ONCE A WEEK PICKUP VERSUS SIX DAYS.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL GAUGE, WE CAN GAUGE IT BY THE WEIGHTS.
'CAUSE TYPICALLY THOSE CONTAINERS, UH, YOU CAN, YOU LEGALLY HOLD 10 TONS OF TRASH IN IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, I, I THINK, UM, YOU KNOW, FROM, YOU KNOW, THE NOISE OF GOING IN THERE SIX DAYS A WEEK, IT WOULD REDUCE THAT.
UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, ON THE ODOR SIDE, IT WOULD HELP.
'CAUSE YOU CAN PUT LIKE DEODORIZERS IN IT TO HELP, YOU KNOW, CALM THAT DOWN AS WELL.
DOES IT, DOES IT COMPACT ON ITS OWN? ITS SENSES WHEN IT NEEDS TO, YEAH.
SO, SO TYPICALLY YOU CAN HAVE IT SET UP ANYWAY.
I MEAN, IF YOU HAD, IF IT WAS PUT IN AN AREA WHERE THERE'S JANITORIAL PEOPLE, THEY COULD MASH A BUTTON WHEN THEY, AFTER THEY FEED IT.
BUT, BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY SET THESE THINGS UP.
WELL, WHENEVER YOU GO TO SHOW IT, UM, YOU CAN ACTUALLY SET IT UP WHENEVER THEY OPEN THE DOOR, UH, AND THROW THE TRASH DOWN THIS LITTLE CHUTE, YOU CAN SHUT IT AND IT'LL AUTOMATICALLY START COMPACTING.
CAN I ASK HOW HIGH UP THE GROUND THAT CHUTE IS LOCATED? WELL, THERE, THERE'S
SO IT, IT IS, IT IS, YOU KNOW, HIGH LEVEL.
UM, I MEAN I THINK THAT'S, THAT'S PROBABLY MAYBE FOUR FEET FROM THE, THE CONCRETE THAT'S AT, THAT'S AT, UM, PROXIMITY.
HOWEVER, IN CAROLINA COLOR TRUCK, HOWEVER, IT HAS TO BE HIGH ENOUGH SO THAT YOU'D HAVE ENOUGH FALL HAVE TO HAVE 40%.
WELL, AND, AND WHERE WE, ON THIS PARTICULAR APPLICATION, THEY ALREADY BUILT THE CORRAL.
AND, AND WITH MOST THINGS THERE, THERE'S NEEDS TO BE
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COMMUNICATION WITH US.BUT WHEN THE ENGINEERS DREW IT UP, YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE, UH, CORRALS THAT THEY DO AT RESTAURANTS, A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY DON'T CONVERSE WITH US, THEY PUT IT IN, THEY PUT LIKE THE GATES UP, OUR TRUCKS CAN'T DRIVE THROUGH IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF COMMUNICATING BETWEEN US AND, AND WHOEVER'S DOING ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ON IT.
BUT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, IT DOES NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE FOLLOW ON IT.
SO PROBABLY, PROBABLY NEED A, A RAMP GOING UP TO THE, UH, A ACTUALLY NO.
I MEAN, THE WAY THEY HAVE IT SET UP, I MEAN, IT, IT IS, I MEAN, IT, IT'S IDEAL.
UM, YOU KNOW, UM, WHO IS THE OTHER ONE THAT WE HAVE? UM, HUDSON OPEN
IT IT IS SIMILAR TO THIS ONE AS WELL.
CAN YOU DESIGN THOSE WITH MORE THAN ONE CH LIKE COULD YOU HAVE ONE WHERE THEY, THERE WAS A RAMP AND THEN ANOTHER ONE LIKE THAT AT EYE LEVEL? I'M THINKING ABOUT LIKE THE RESTAURANT PEOPLE WHEELING STUFF IN THERE.
YOU'LL LIFT IT UP IN THE BACK BREAKS AND THAT'S WHEN YOU GET STUFF I UNDERSTAND ALL OVER.
UM, THEY HAVE ONE AT, UH, THE FOOD BANK TO WHERE IT'S BACKED INTO LIKE A LOADING DOCK AT AN ANGLE AND IT HAS A GATE ON THE END OF IT.
AND ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS JUST LITERALLY JUST PICK IT UP AND THROW IT IN THEN.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO, YOU DON'T HAVE TO THROW IT.
IT'S ALMOST LIKE A, YOU, YOU CAN GET SOMETHING THAT'S GOT LIKE A LITTLE CART TIPPER ON IT THAT WOULD, YOU KNOW, JUST DUMP IN THE, THE ONE THING THAT YOU RUN INTO WITH SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
UH, AND I'VE GOT A PICTURE I CAN, I CAN SHOOT IT TO YOU IF YOU CAN ADD IT.
THE BAD, THE DOWNSIDE ON THAT IS IT'S NOT ENCLOSED YOU, YOU KNOW, SO WE, SOMETHING THAT'S ENCLO YOU, YOU'RE GONNA WIND UP WHAT YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE.
YOU'RE GOING THE SAME THING YOU'RE DEALING WITH NOW.
YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAVE PEOPLE FEED AND THROW STUFF IN IT GOING BE ABLE TO CONTROL IT.
IT LOOKS TO ME TOO, THAT WOULD BE VERY GOOD FOR LIKE KEEPING ANIMALS OUT AND STUFF LIKE THAT.
I THINK DAVE'S POINT ABOUT YOU COULD POTENTIALLY BUILD A RAMP UP TO IT BECAUSE A BAG, HEAVY BAG, YOU KNOW, KNOW WHO MIGHT BE TAKING IT OUT THERE.
I MEAN, IF IT'S A GROUND LEVEL, THAT'S AWESOME.
BUT YOU GOTTA FIND THAT COMPROMISE WHERE DOWN AN ADA A I'M ASSUMING WOULD HAVE TO BE AADA A COMPLIANT RAMP UP TO THE CHUTE.
AND HOWEVER HIGH YOU CAN GET THAT RAMP, LIKE ON THE LENGTH OF THE ENCLOSURE, THAT, AND HOPEFULLY IT LEVELS OFF FROM THE TOP.
OH, IT, A LOT OF FOLKS HAVE CARDS AND MIGHT BE GOOD FOR A CANDY CAMERA, BUT A DA REQUIRES LEVEL OFF.
WOULD THESE BE OWNED BY THESE LEASED FROM YOU ALL OR THEY PURCHASED? HOW DOES THAT WORK? UH, WE DO IT BOTH WAYS.
UH, TYPICALLY, UM, WELL THE ONE WE DID AT THE FOOD BANK, THE LEASE WAS RUNNING.
UM, I THINK 6 0 6 IS WHAT THE LEASE, THAT WAS A FIVE YEAR LEASE.
AND, AND PART OF THAT LEASE IS US MAINTAINING AND KEEPING IT UP AS WELL.
UM, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHAT THE LEASE IS.
WITH THE IMAGES THAT YOU'VE GOT ON THIS, IS THAT COMPARABLE TO WHAT YOU WOULD RECOMMEND FOR AN APPLICATION LIKE THIS? AND WHAT ARE THE DIMENSIONS OF THAT BALLPARK LEASE, UH, BALL BALLPARK? UM, WITH THE, UH, THE COMPACTION UNIT, UH, WITH THE BOX IS ROUGHLY PROBABLY GOING TO BE A NORMAL, UH, ROLL OFF BOX'S 22 FEET.
UH, THE UNIT ITSELF IS AT LEAST 28 30 FEET LONG AND IT'S GONNA BE ABOUT, UH, I'D SAY EIGHT FOOT WIDE.
UM, TALK ABOUT THE NOISE WHEN, WHEN IT'S ACTUALLY, IT'S VERY, IT'S VERY MINIMAL.
DO YOU KNOW, UM, LOOKING AT THE WALL THAT WAS JUST ON THE INSIDE, IT'S 14 BLOCKS HIGH.
DO YOU KNOW HOW HIGH THAT, THAT UNIT IS? UM, OR INCHES TALL RIGHT.
WHAT? YEAH, SO IT, NOT, NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD.
UM, I WOULD, I WOULD SAY A VENTURE WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY AT LEAST 10 FOOT THOUSAND.
AND, AND SOME OF THAT COMES FROM THE, UH, ORDINANCE, HOME SCREENING OR DUMPSTERS.
AND IF YOU DO, YOU HAVE SOME OF THAT HEIGHT WOULD BE DICTATED BY THAT.
MAKE SURE YOU'RE, UH, SO THAT MEANS THAT THE ORDINANCE WOULD SAY JUST COVERED TOTALLY OR NO, YOU WOULD WANT COVERED, ESPECIALLY IN CASE.
BUT YOU, YOU DISCUSS BRIEFLY THAT, THAT THERE'S SOME RULES ABOUT WALL HEIGHT IN THE
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DOWNTOWN.DO YOU KNOW WHAT THOSE ARE? SIX.
BUT THERE'S HEALTH AND SAFETY.
I MEAN WITHOUT, UM, I, I THINK TOO, UM, PROBABLY, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD POSSIBLY, I DON'T KNOW, SLOPE IT A LITTLE BIT WHEN THE COMPACT KIND OF GOES DOWN TO GET THE FALL THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, HELP OUT WITH THAT AND STILL KEEP IT AT GROUND LEVEL.
UM, OR, YOU KNOW, IS SOME THINGS THAT YOU CAN DO.
UM, WHAT'S THE, OF THE COMPACT CLOSE TO ABOUT, YOU SAY 10 FEET, AT LEAST 10 FEET TALL.
AND, AND IF THE TRUCK WAS TO EMPTY THAT, I WOULD UNDERSTAND THAT THE TRUCK WOULD KIND OF BACK UP TO IT.
WHAT WAS THE OPERATING DISTANCE THAT A TRUCK WOULD NEED? THE, IT WOULD NEED TO BE DOUBLED.
DOUBLE THE, BECAUSE THE TRUCK WOULD HAVE TO BACK UP SQUARE TO IT.
RAISE ITS THROUGH, UP THE CABLE UP TO IT.
AND THEN PULL THE, THE WHOLE UNIT WOULD GO, EXCEPT FOR THIS UNIT 60 FOOT WORKING, UH, ACCESS.
AND I THINK WE, WE KIND OF WALKED THE PROPERTY, UH, ABOUT A MONTH AGO.
AND, AND I THINK WE KIND OF, IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE KIND OF IDENTIFIED AN AREA THAT IT, IT, IT COULD WORK WHEN YOU GO IN, DRIVE IN TO LIKE THE PARKING LOT AND YOU COME IN KIND OF THAT HORSESHOE AND YOU CIRCLE AROUND, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE TO PUT, THE CORRAL WOULD HAVE TO BE KIND OF AT AN ANGLE THEN THAT WAY IT KIND OF LINES UP.
UM, AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, WE BASICALLY, HE RAISES THE BOOM, HE'LL BACK UP AND THERE'S A HOOK, UH, A CABLE HE'LL HOOK TO IT TO THE BOX, DISCONNECT THE, UH, HYDRAULICS THAT TO IT AND TAKE THE WHOLE UNIT ITSELF.
AND THEY REPLACE A NEW UNIT? NO, NO.
EMPTY GO ROUND, GO ROUND TRIP THAT.
AND, AND THE, AND THE THING IS, MOST OF THE TIME WHEN THIS IS GOING TO BE THE, THE SERVICE WILL BE DONE, WILL BE EARLY, EARLY IN THE MORNING FOR BUSINESSES WOULD EVEN BE STARTED.
SO, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO TRY TO DO ALL THAT DURING, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS, BUSINESS AND STUFF.
SO WE WOULD, WE WOULD ACTUALLY GO IN THERE A LOT.
YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE WHAT WE'RE SERVICING IN THE FRONT END.
NOW WHAT ABOUT FLUID? I MEAN, IS IT, IT'S ENTIRELY CONTAINED, DOESN'T LEAK OUT AND EVERYTHING.
SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ANY KIND OF RUNOFF GOING INTO ANY KIND OF DRAINS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? NO.
THEY, THEY'LL, I MEAN, JUST LIKE PROXIMITY, THEY, THEY ALL PUT DRAINS THERE.
YOU KNOW, BUT FOR CLEANING UP AND THAT'S RIGHT.
BUT THIS TYPICALLY IS, I MEAN, IT'S SEALED TIGHT.
AND THE CURRENT ONES WE HAVE DON'T HAVE THAT.
THEY, THEY'VE GOT DRAIN PLUGS ON 'EM.
AND BECAUSE OF THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT, YOU'VE GOTTA ALWAYS MAKE SURE THE DRAIN PLUGS IN THERE OR, YOU KNOW, I I I'M ASSUMING IT WOULD BE GET CITED.
YEAH, YOU'LL GET CITED FOR THAT.
SO COULD YOU TELL ME HOW LARGE THE OPENING IS FOR THE TRASH TO GO IN? YOU HAVE APPROXIMATE.
I MEAN, IT'S HARD TO, IT LOOKS SMALL TO ME.
HONESTLY, IT LOOKS LIKE ABOUT A FOUR BY FOUR.
BUT YOU CAN, I MEAN, YOU CAN, COULD THEY COME WIDER? YEAH, I MEAN, YOU COULD, YOU COULD DO IT JUST ABOUT, I MEAN IT'S, I'VE GOT A GUY THAT DOES OUR FABRICATION THAT, THAT WE CAN GET ALL THAT STUFF MODIFIED.
IF IT NEEDS TO BE LARGER, WE CAN, SO THE CH THAT IT GOES DOWN AND THAT DETACHES FROM THE UNIT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO TAKE AWAY.
SO THIS IS A STANDALONE TWO PART ITSELF STAND PICTURE.
SEE THE LEGS? YOU SEE THE LEGS.
IT'S THE SHOE PART ITSELF IS STANDALONE.
THAT'LL STAY WHEN THE DRIVER'S PULLING THE COMPACTOR.
THAT, THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD GO.
UM, AND LIKE I SAID, THE RAM AND EVERYTHING KEEPS IT IN.
SEE THE, THE STOPPER, THE POWER UNIT SITS BACK THERE.
YOU CAN SEE THE, THE CONDUIT WHERE IT RUNS.
THE, THE POWER UNIT SITS BACK HERE BEHIND THE, THE APPROACH TO THIS, WHEN THE, WHEN THE TRUCK BACKS UP AND PULL THIS OUT, DO YOU HAVE A REQUIREMENT THAT YOU NEED CONCRETE OR A ASPHALT WORK? CONCRETE? IT IS, IT IS, IT WOULD NEED TO BE, UM, CONCRETE BECAUSE OF THE WEIGHT FOR 30 FEET, I WOULD SAY.
AND THE UNIT HAS WHAT WE CALL GUIDE RAILS.
THAT'S LIKE MOUNTED, MOUNTED DOWN.
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HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT IT.AM I GOING TO HIT THE, HIT THE, UH, CORRAL WALL OR AM I GOING TO HIT THE, YOU KNOW, THE CHUTE.
UM, IT HAS A STOPPER IN THE BACK.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAID, THE GUIDE RAILS, WHEN IT GOES, YOU DROP IT DOWN AND THEN WALKS OFF, IT'LL HIT THAT GUIDE RAIL AND JUST GO BACK PERFECTLY.
HOW LONG IS THE ROUND TRIP TO EMPTY? ABOUT AN HOUR.
WELL THE ONE THING ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR COMPACTOR TOO, WHEN HE GOES TO DUMP IT OUT, HE'S GOT THE SPINNING AROUND BECAUSE YOU'RE, WHERE YOU OPEN IT UP, SEE, HE'LL PICK IT UP FROM THE BACK END.
UM, BUT THEN WHEN HE GOES TO DUMP IT OUT, HE HAS TO DROP IT, SPIN IT TO OPEN THE DOOR WITH THE, AND ONCE HE DUMPS IT, HE'LL SPIN IT AGAIN.
SO WHEN HE, WHEN HE GOES BACK TO THE CUSTOMER, IT'S, IT'S READY TO GO.
I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS A FOSTER OR A GEORGE QUESTION, BUT WOULD THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT HAVE THE PLANS FOR THIS ENCLOSURE? WE COULD GET EXACT DIMENSIONS AND EVERYTHING.
WE, WE MAY NOT HAVE THE EXACT PLANS, BUT WHAT WE USUALLY DO ON A SITE PLAN REVIEW IS CONFER WITH GFL TO MAKE SURE WHATEVER A COMMERCIAL PLACE IS PROPOSING FITS WITHIN THEIR HEAD PARAMETERS OF ACCESS.
SO WE CAN DESIGN IT TO FIT, FIT, WHATEVER.
CHRIS, YOU MENTIONED $606 PER MONTH FOR THE LEASE.
IS THAT CORRECT? AT THE, THAT WAS THE AVERAGE OF THE FOOD BANK.
WHAT WOULD BE THE AVERAGE COST TO PURCHASE THAT? THE ROAD? UH, ROUGHLY AROUND I THINK 35, 30 6,000.
SOMETHING YOU, YOU MENTIONED, UH, THE KEY FOBS WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS WITH THAT.
WOULD EVERY ONE OF THE USERS HAVE A UNIQUE KEY FOB? WOULD IT BE THE SAME MASTER FOR EVERYBODY? YEAH.
NO, IT, IT WOULD, IT WOULD, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY WOULD BE, I I ACTUALLY HAVEN'T PUT ONE IN WITH A KEY FOB.
WE'VE DONE MORE WITH THE KEY PADS.
UM, WELL, COULD THEY BE DIFFERENT? YEAH, I THINK IT COULD BE SET.
IT'S DIFFERENT CODE THEN THAT WAY YOU CAN, YOU CAN IDENTIFY WHO USING, WHO'S USING IT AND HOW MUCH THE MAJORITY REPORT TIME.
IF THEY'RE NOT PAYING YOU PULL THAT CODE.
USUALLY YOU CAN REMOTELY, UH, ELIMINATE A FOB.
SO YOU HAVE A LOST FOB OR YOU HAVE AN EMPLOYEE THAT'S LEFT AND KEPT THE FOB.
THAT FOB CAN BE DROPPED OUTTA SERVICE THAT NO LONGER FUNCTIONS.
SO, UM, WITH THE, LET'S SAY 606 A MONTH, THEN YOU COULD TAKE OFF USERS AND DIVIDE THAT AMONGST THE USERS TO, TO PAY INTO IT.
IS THAT HOW THAT WOULD WORK? I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT SURE CHARGING EACH USER 600 CENTS? NO, NO, NO, NO, NO, NO.
NO, I MEAN WE, HONESTLY, WE CAN DO IT.
I MEAN, WE'VE HAD, WE COULD DO IT ANY WAY, NUMBER OF WAYS.
IF WE HAD THE, THE, THE NUMBER OF USERS, UM, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY WE CAN SPLIT IT UP AMONGST THEM.
UM, HOWEVER, I MEAN, IT, IT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN WORK THINGS OUT WITH THE CITY AND, AND THE RESIDENTS.
YEAH, THAT MY NEXT QUESTION WAS GONNA BE THE RESIDENTS, BECAUSE THEY ARE JUST PAYING THE TYPICAL, UH, CART FEE.
I MEAN, WHATEVER THE CITY CHARGES THEM FOR TRASH.
NOW THAT WOULD NOT CHANGE BECAUSE ALL WE'RE DOING IS ELIMINATING THAT CART.
THEY ARE USING THE, THE DUMPSTER OR THE COMPACTOR.
BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THEY, WELL, I MEAN PROBABLY WHAT YOU COULD PROBABLY DO WITH THEM, YOU COULD FIND OUT WHATEVER THE RESIDENTIAL RATE THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY CHARGE.
IF THEY HAD A CART, THAT'D BE THEIR RENT.
BUT IS THAT, THAT'S ON OUR, OUR UTILITY BILL.
IS IT? AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST SO THAT WE CAN ELIMINATE ALL THOSE CARTS BACK ME.
THAT'S A 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT GONNA HAVE THE VOLUME OF TRASH THE BUSINESSES HAVE.
LET ME ASK ABOUT THE CARDBOARD, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT'S, THAT'S AN ISSUE.
SO MANY, ESPECIALLY THE RESTAURANTS.
AND I KNOW EVEN AT THE PEPSI STORE, WE HAVE LOTS OF CARDBOARD BOXES.
'CAUSE EVERYTHING COMES IN A CARDBOARD BOX.
I DON'T, YOU KNOW, IS THERE A WAY TO COME BACK THAT CARDBOARD OR IS THERE, YOU KNOW, UH, MAYBE WE NEED TWO OR MORE.
ARE YOU FINDING THAT WE'RE NOT PICKING UP THE CARDBOARD ENOUGH? 'CAUSE THAT'S ANOTHER THING WE NEED TO FIGURE INTO THIS EQUATION.
ARE YOU, WE'VE PICKED UP THE CARDBOARD MONDAY, WEDNESDAY, FRIDAY.
BUT THE BIGGEST, BIGGEST THING IS, UM, PEOPLE ARE NOT BREAKING DOWN, BREAKING IT DOWN.
INSTEAD OF SLIDING IT THROUGH THE SLAT, I DON'T WANT BREAK THE BOX DOWN.
I'M GONNA OPEN UP THE, THE, THE TOP AND JUST THROW THEM OVER.
IS THERE A WAY TO HAVE ONE THAT YOU CAN'T OPEN UP THE TOP SO THEY HAVE TO SUCK DOWN OR YEAH, WE CAN, WE CAN, I CAN PUT A LOCK BAR ON IT.
SO, YOU KNOW, SO WHEN OUR TRUCK GOES IS LIKE KIND OF GRAVITY, IT, IT, THE LOCK OPEN UP AND IT DROP THE BAR DOWN AND HE CAN DUMP IT.
WHEN HE SETS IT BACK, IT LOCKS BACK
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THERE.THERE'S, BECAUSE OUR, THE DOORS ARE AUTOMATICALLY WELDED AND SHUT, SO YOU CAN'T SLIDE THAT OPEN.
THEY'D HAVE TO BREAK IT DOWN OTHER THAN FEEDING IT FROM THE TOP.
I MEAN, I CAN PUT ONE OF THOSE ON THERE KIND OF HELP TO MY RESTAURANT PARTNERS.
I MEAN, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THIS? YOU KNOW, IT'S, UH, IT IS AN ISSUE BECAUSE WE HAVE LOTS OF CARDBOARD BACK THERE.
I WOULD SAY A FAIR NUMBER OF THE BOXES THAT PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO BREAK DOWN SIMPLY GO IN THE, UH, THE SQUARE REFUGE REFUSE BOX.
THAT'S A, THAT'S A DAILY EVENT WHERE, WHERE A FAIR AMOUNT OF CARDBOARD IS THROWN IN THE BOXES.
SO WHAT WOULD PREVENT PEOPLE FROM PUTTING THE UNBROKEN DOWN CARDBOARD BOXES INTO THE, WELL, I MEAN, IT, IT IS TRAINING GOOD FAITH.
I MEAN, IT IS, YOU'RE DOING THE RIGHT THING.
SOME, SOME OF THE BOXES, SOME CARDBOARD THAT HAS, UM, FOOD LIKE A WAX WAX NOT, IT'S NOT EASY.
SO THAT HAS TO BE THAT'S RIGHT.
SO THEN THERE'S SOME THAT DO AND SOME.
BUT MOST, MOST CAN BE BROKEN DOWN OBVIOUSLY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT EVERYTHING AT THIS POINT.
WE'RE GONNA START PLACING A COMPACTOR.
THEN WHERE DOES THE, UH, CARDBOARD GO? IS IT SUFFICIENT ENOUGH FOR WHAT WE NEED? YEAH.
BECAUSE THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO CLEAN THIS AREA UP FOR OUR, OUR GUESTS AND VISITORS THAT ARE COMING THROUGH AND WALKING THROUGH THAT AREA.
WE WANNA MAKE IT INVITING AND WE DON'T WANT ALL THIS STUFF HANGING OUT.
WHAT'S THE COST OF, UH, OF OBVIOUSLY THE RENT THAT YOU TALKED ABOUT.
WHAT ABOUT EVERY TIME IT GETS EMPTIED? WHAT IS THAT? UM, HOW WOULD PROBABLY, 'CAUSE THIS IS KIND OF LIKE A LA CARTE.
SO ROUGHLY THE UM, THE HAUL WOULD PROBABLY BE SOMEWHERE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OF LIKE 1 75.
UM, AND THEN THE, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE LANDFILL'S GETTING READY TO DO AN INCREASE, BUT I THINK THAT'S JUST GOING TO BE SOMEWHERE AROUND 48, 40 $9 A TON.
THE INCREASE IS GONNA BE, OR THAT'S GONNA BE THE NEW RATE? NO, I, I, I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY, IF IT'S GONNA BE GOING UP A DOLLAR OR $2.
THEY VOTED YESTERDAY FOR THE BUDGET.
IF WE HAD A SEPARATE CARDBOARD CONTAINER LIKE WE HAVE NOW, HOW MUCH WOULD THAT COST? WE, HOW MUCH WOULD IT COST? NO.
WELL, YOUR CARDBOARD CONTAINER IS, I MEAN, A LOT OF IT'S BASED ON A BUSINESS OWNER.
SO THEY'RE PAYING, YOU KNOW, LIKE THEY MAY BE PAYING FOR ONCE A WEEK.
UM, BUT WHAT ABOUT WHAT'S BACK THERE NOW? THERE, BECAUSE WE'RE DUMP WE'RE DUMPING IT THREE TIMES.
SO IT'S, IT IS LIKE ONE CAN, BUT YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY THAT'S PARTICIPATING IN IT, IT'S LIKE IT'S THEIR DAY.
UM, AND I, I BE HONEST WITH YOU, I HAVEN'T SHOT MY ACCOUNT.
I NORMALLY GIVE IT TO MY ACCOUNT MANAGER AND LET THEM PRICE EVERYTHING OUT.
BUT, UM, IT, IT, I'M NOT SURE.
I'D HATE TO TELL YOU EXACTLY WITHOUT RUNNING THE NUMBERS.
I THINK I PAID $12 AND IT'S CARDBOARD AND RECYCLABLE.
IF I MISS THAT DAY, I GOTTA WAIT ANOTHER MONTH.
FOR CARDBOARD AND RECYCLABLE FOR RESIDENTIAL.
THAT'S WHAT, THAT'S THAT'S COUNTY.
THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S A COUNTY CONTRACT.
THEY WANTED ONLY DO, UH, ONE A MONTH.
THEY GOT RID OF THE LITTLE ONCE A WEEK AND WENT TO THE CART FOR ONCE.
AND ONE OF THE REASONS, ONE OF THE REASONS THAT YOU PULL BACK ON HOW MUCH IS JUST THE LACK OF RECYCLING IN, IN THE WORLD, RIGHT? YES.
I MEAN, LIKE, IT'S NOT, MY STAT I HEARD ONE TIME IS MAYBE FIVE TO 10% OF RECYCLABLES ACTUALLY GET RECYCLED.
WE, AND JUST SO Y'ALL KNOW, I MEAN, UH, WE, WE, EVERY, ALL THE RECYCLES WE COLLECT, UM, WE PICK UP, WE BRING IT BACK TO OUR FACILITY.
UM, WE TRY TO KEEP THE CARDBOARD AS CLEAN AS POSSIBLE.
'CAUSE WE DUMP THAT INSIDE AND WE HAVE A BALER THAT WE BAIL AND THEN WE'LL SEND IT TO SUNOCO ON THE BACKSIDE.
IT'S LIKE A, LIKE A COVERED AREA THAT WE PUT ALL OF OUR SINGLE STRING, UH, ANYTHING FROM PLASTICS, ALUMINUM, GLASS, UH, PAPER, ALL THAT GOES IN THERE.
WE SCOOP IT UP, LOAD IT IN, WALKING FLOOR TR AND TAKE IT TO SUNOCO.
UM, ON CARDBOARD BUILD, WE TYPICALLY AVERAGE ABOUT 150, 200 TONS A MONTH, UH, IN CARDBOARD AND ABOUT SEVEN, 800 TONS IN RECYCLE.
THAT, THAT GOES TO, UH, SNOW CUTS.
DO YOU ANTICIPATE EVEN THE DEMAND STAYING WHERE IT IS
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WITH THE CARDBOARD GIVING US SOME THE GLOBAL ISSUES GOING? HAVE YOU HEARD ANYTHING FROM THE HIGHER UPS? IT'S LIKE, WE'RE GONNA BE PULLING BACK ON RECYCLABLES, WE'RE GONNA ACCEPT 'CAUSE WE GOTTA SHIP IT OVER THERE TO BRING IT BACK HERE.NAH, UH, IT WHAT IMPACTS THAT IS, IS WHAT THEY, THEY PAY YOU FOR.
UM, THEY DON'T PAY YOU ENOUGH TO KNOW SELLING.
RIGHT? WELL, I, I MEAN I CAN TELL YOU THIS RIGHT NOW, WHAT I'M PAYING FOR, UH, RECYCLABLES, UM, I CAN TAKE YOU TO THE LANDFILL 'CAUSE THEY CHARGE ME MORE TO GET RID OF IT THAN ME TAKE TO THE LANDFILL.
BUT YOU'RE DIVERTING IT AND THAT'S THE WHOLE GOAL IS TO DIVERT IT THAT LANDFILL.
SO I MEAN, WE, WE TAKE EVERYTHING THAT WE COLLECT, UH, TO SNOW CODE, BUT THAT ALSO HAS A COST BENEFIT ANALYSIS AT SOME POINT.
YOU KNOW, WHY ARE WE NOT INSINUATING AS OPPOSED TO LANDFILL? UM, THAT'S, THAT'S ABOVE MY PAY GRADE.
SO I MEAN I, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE CLOSEST INCINERATED THAT I'M AWARE OF IS SOMEWHERE IN VIRGINIA.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S STATE, NORTH CAROLINA.
I, I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW OF ANY.
AND WE DON'T, WE DO HAVE OUR OWN LANDFILL, WHICH IS IN S SAMSON COUNTY.
BUT, UM, YEAH, I I'M NOT, I'M NOT SURE.
OR YOU COULD PARTNER WITH SOMEBODY.
SO OUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR, LITTLE GIFT SHOP NEXT DOOR.
'CAUSE THE PEPSI STORE, YOU KNOW, WE SHIP OUT ALL THE TIME BECAUSE WE HAVE AN ONLINE BUSINESS.
SO WE, THEY RECYCLE THEIR BOXES TO US AND WE USE THEM AS OUR PACKING BOXES SO WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY BOXES TO SHIP OUT.
AND, AND ALL THEIR PACKING, THEIR PLASTIC PACKING AND TISSUE THEY GIVE TO US.
SO AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE TRYING TO HELP ONE ANOTHER.
WE DON'T HAVE TO BUY MORE OF IT.
THEY DON'T WANT TO THROW IT AWAY.
SO SOMETIMES JUST ASK YOUR NEIGHBOR, YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE NEEDING THINGS.
I, YOU KNOW, MARY WAS GREAT WHEN SHE HAD FOUR SEEDS.
SHE KEPT US, YOU KNOW, AND, AND WE NEVER HAD TO BUY ANYTHING 'CAUSE SHE ALWAYS BROUGHT US HER, HER, YOU KNOW, PACKING AND ALL OF THAT.
SO THERE ARE WAYS TO SHARE THINGS AMONGST US SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO HAVE AS MUCH.
BUT STILL, IT'S A DIFFERENT WORLD THAN WHAT WE LIVE IN.
BUT WE NEED TO BE PREPARED FOR THIS.
WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND IF WE DO HAVE A LOT OF CARDBOARD, HOW WE'RE GONNA PACK THIS.
AGAIN, THE GOAL HERE IS TO CLEAN UP THAT AREA FOR, FOR GUESTS AND VISITORS AND OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO WALK THROUGH AND NOT HAVE TO SMELL THE TRASH.
TO ME, IT WOULD BE WORTH EVERY PENNY NOT HAVE TO THE PEOPLE AT MORGAN'S TO NOT HAVE TO SMELL THAT WHEN THEY'RE SITTING OUTSIDE EATING OR LOOK AT THAT NASTY TRASH.
WELL, AND THEN THE, AND OBVIOUSLY IF YOU FRAME IT UP IN A CORRAL, SIMILAR TO WHAT PROXIMITY HAS, I MEAN, IT JUST DRESSES IT UP.
WHICH PARTICULAR, ALTHOUGH WE DON'T LIKE TO COVER UP OUR GREEN PAINT
IT'S GONNA BE INTERESTING TO, IS A MORE A, A ACADEMIC THING.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH CARDBOARD OVER THE NEXT 12 MONTHS OR SO.
BECAUSE WITH THE TARIFF CHANGE ON THE $800 EXEMPTION, ALL THOSE CARDBOARD BOXES THAT WERE BEING SENT FROM CHINA ARE DONE.
THAT'S AN INTERNATIONAL MARKET.
SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE WERE RECYCLING CARDBOARD AND SENDING IT TO CHINA, BUT IT'S, IT'S, UH, THERE'S GONNA BE A LOT OF CHANGES IN THAT MARKET IN THE NEXT, IF, IF THE TARIFFS AND STUFF THAT STAYS IN PLACE, THAT'S GOTTA BE A HUGE PERCENTAGE OF GLOBAL CARDBOARD COMING IN.
CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE MANEUVERABILITY OF THE, OF THE TRUCK? UM, YOU MENTIONED ANGLING, THE, UM, THE CORRAL.
UM, WERE YOU CONSIDERING REMAINING ON CITY PROPERTY FOR THE MANEUVERING OF THE TRUCK OR WERE YOU NO, IT, IT, EVERYTHING WAS THAT WE TALKED ABOUT.
LOOKS LIKE IT WOULD STILL FALL UNDER THE CITY PROPERTY.
AND SO YOU CAN MANEUVER IT WITHIN THE CITY PROPERTY.
DO YOU, DO YOU HAVE TO BACK UP FROM CRAVEN? LIKE IF YOU WERE TO, WE'RE GONNA WALK OUT THERE, WE'RE GONNA
CAN I ASK YOU AGAIN TO ASSESS YOU THOUGHT HOW MANY TIMES EACH WEEK YOU THOUGHT THE, UH, THE COMPACT WOULD NEED TO BE EXCHANGED OR, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT IS KIND OF LIKE ONE OF THOSE TRIAL AND ERROR KIND OF THINGS, RIGHT? I MEAN, YOU, YOU KNOW, YOU'LL GAUGE IT.
YOU COULD EASILY START OUT AT ONCE A WEEK AND, AND KIND OF TRY TO GAUGE BY THE, THE, THE WEIGHT WHEN WE PICK IT UP.
UM, AND YOU, YOU COULD, IF IT DOESN'T SAY IF WE PICK IT UP AND THAT THAT FIRST WEEK AND IT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, SAY FOUR OR FIVE TONS IN IT, OBVIOUSLY I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY WEIGH AND GO EVERY OTHER WEEK, WHICH WOULD REDUCE YOUR, YOUR EXPENDITURE.
UM, THE ONLY THING IS IT JUST LEAVES MORE TRASH IN THERE FOR ANOTHER WEEK.
THAT WOULD BE THE ONLY DETERRENT.
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WHAT IS IT? UH, UH, AN IS ANYBODY EVERYBODY FAMILIAR WITH HANDBELLS? DO THEY HAVE A, IF YOU LOOK AT ANNABELLE'S, THE GARAGE DOOR TO THE RIGHT, THEY HAVE A COMPACTOR HIDDEN THE GARAGE DOOR.THEY HAVE A 20 YARD COMPACTOR AND IT'S SHARED WITH ANNABELLE'S PIZZA PLACE, JED EXPRESS AND BUFFALO WILD.
UM, THEY GO EVERY OTHER WEEK AND IT'S USUALLY SIX TO SEVEN TONS UNLESS IT'S PRETTY'S A LOT OF FOOD TRASH.
AND THE CAPACITY OF THEIRS, IT'S A LITTLE BIT SHORTER THAN THE ACTUAL, UH, BOXES.
AND IT, IT'S SIX TO SEVEN TONS EVERY OTHER WEEK WHEN THE TRASH IS PICKED UP HERE.
NOW YOU DON'T WEIGH THAT, DO YOU? NO.
UM, DO YOU PARTICIPATE IN THOSE, UM, TRASH THINGS NOW OR DO YOU USE SOMETHING CLOSER TO YOUR END? YEAH, I USE THE ONE RIGHT NOW AT BEHIND MITCHELL SO THAT THE CAR OVER THERE, IF, IF WE HAD A COMPACTOR, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH YOU, WOULD COME WALK IT DOWN.
BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE ISSUE WE HAD BEFORE IS NOBODY ON THAT SIDE WANTED WHEREVER WE TO TAKE THE TEST.
NOBODY ON THAT SIDE WANTED TO PARTICIPATE.
SO THE MORE WE PARTICIPATE, I THINK THE BETTER IT IS.
LISTEN, I TRY TO, YOU KNOW, SEEING THIS CORRAL AND EVERYTHING AND I, AND THE VOLUME.
I MEAN I, I I SUPPORT, I SUPPORT THAT.
IS THERE A REQUIREMENT THAT THE CHUTE BE AS LONG AS IT IS BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF SPACE BETWEEN THE BLOCK AND THE COMPACT OR WHERE THAT CHUTE IS? NO, IT'S NOT A REQUIREMENT.
YOU JUST HAVE TO HAVE A PITCH.
PROBABLY WON'T BE ABLE TO GET BACK IN THERE AND EVEN CLEAN SOMETHING UP.
SOMEBODY THROW SOMETHING EVERY THE TOP.
SO THEN LIKE EVERY DAY YOU PUSH THE LITTLE BUTTON AND IT SHOVES IT ALL, YOU KNOW, AWAY FROM THE CHUTES ALL THE WAY TO THE BACK OF THE CAN.
I MEAN, YOU COULD MANUALLY DO THAT, BUT ANYTIME SOMEBODY GOES IN AND YOU CAN SET IT UP, THAT WHEN THEY OPEN A DOOR AND CLOSE IT, IT AUTOMATICALLY STARTS.
OH, IT AUTOMATICALLY PUSHES IT BACK.
SO, SO ON THE, ON THE SLOPE YOU HAVE RIGHT THERE, IS THERE ANY KIND OF LIKE CONVEYOR BELT OR SOMETHING THAT PULL? SO WHAT, WHAT MY CONCERN IS WHEN I SEE THIS AND WHEN I SEE THE MESS THAT MITCHELL'S, WE DEAL WITH THE RESTAURANT'S PUTTING THEIR THINGS IN THERE.
IT SEEMS TO ME LIKE THERE'S GONNA BE QUITE A LOT OF DEBRIS THAT'S JUST GONNA BE RIGHT THERE AT THE DOOR WHEN YOU OPEN IT.
UNLESS THEY HAVE A PUSH STICK.
SO THEY'VE GOT, THEY'VE GOT A PUSH STOOP.
THAT HAS TO BE PUSHED DOWN IN THERE.
I WOULD ALSO RECOMMEND A HOSE BIB AND THE SHORT HOSE ON THE OUTSIDE WALL.
YOU COULD JUST BLAST THE WATER, WASH IT DOWN AND SHOOT.
ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR GJ? IT'S PROBABLY MORE COMMON, BUT I'VE HAD A PROBLEM WITH THE ONE BEHIND MORGAN'S RIGHT NOW I'M ALLERGIC TO THESE AND SOMETIMES THE SUMMER I GETS HOW HOT YOU HAVE EASE AROUND THERE.
I MIGHT EAT INSIDE INSTEAD OUTSIDE.
I LOVE YOUR, WE LOVE YOUR INSURANCE.
I, IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S NOT ISSUE WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS.
YEAH, NO, THIS ONE, YOU KNOW, THIS WORKS HERE BEHIND THE CHELSEA.
WE NEED HAVE ONE OVER THERE TOO.
WE COULD GET ONE BACK THERE BECAUSE THAT'S A MESS TOO.
JUST FOR CLARITY ON THE BILL SAYING WE'RE GETTING A BILL FROM THE CITY, RIGHT? WE BUILT AND GFL OR A CART RENTAL AS WELL IN THAT, UH, YES.
I MEAN NOT EVERYBODY IS A, B, C, YOUR A BC CART WOULD BE INCLUDED.
BUT THAT'S A B, C I'M TALKING ABOUT THE TRASH TRACK.
YOUR ACTUAL SERVICE IS BEING BILLED THROUGH THE CITY BECAUSE I'VE HAD FOR A LONG TIME AN EIGHT R RENTAL LINE ITEM ON MY BILL.
FOR THE LAST ALMOST TWO AND A HALF YEARS.
SHOULD I HAVE THAT ON MY BILL? YES, SIR.
EVEN THOUGH THE CITY'S PAYING FOR THE CART RENTAL, THEY'RE NOT PAYING, THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE HAULING OF THE, THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE HAULING.
BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF MISUNDERSTANDING IN MY BUSINESS WITH THIS FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS.
UM, WE DON'T HAVE THE ISSUE ANYMORE WHERE I LIVE, BUT WE'RE, WE HAVE RESIDENTIAL TRASH AND THEN I HAVE, UM, I HAVE A, A BAR ON THE OTHER SIDE OF ME WHERE WE SHARE OUR MUTUAL SPACE FOR OUR TRASH AND THEIR COMMERCIAL.
SO AT ONE TIME WE WERE GONNA COMBINE IT ALL AND JUST USE THEIR CAN, BUT THEN YOU WOULDN'T BREAK IT DOWN SO THAT WE COULD JUST HAVE A COMMERCIAL BILL AND THEY COULD HAVE FOR A RESIDENTIAL BILL AND A COMMERCIAL BILL BECAUSE WE WERE GOING TO USE THEIR CAN.
AND IT WAS THEN, SO THEN MY BILL
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WAS GONNA GO FROM $12 A MONTH TO SOMETHING LIKE 50 BUCKS A MONTH.SO I SAID TO CHRIS, SORRY, WE'LL KEEP OUR, CAN I, YOU KNOW, I JUST TO THROW IT INTO HIS CAN.
WHAT, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE HE WANTED TO CONSOLIDATE IT.
THAT'S WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT.
SO YOU WILL BE BREAKING THIS DOWN FOR RESIDENTIAL.
I MEAN, WE HAVEN'T REALLY GOTTEN THAT FAR TO DISCUSS.
AND WE PROBABLY DOING THAT WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO BE RENEGOTIATION OF THE CITY CONTRACT AS WELL TO INCLUDE THAT.
SO YEAH, THAT, THAT'S REALLY COOL.
THE ONE THING I CAN TELL YOU ALSO, ESPECIALLY FOR THE RESTAURANT IN HERE, IS WE ARE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT A, A, AN UPDATED FORMULA FOR HOW EACH RESTAURANT AND BUSINESSES ARE CHARGED.
AND WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE KIND OF LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF THE, THE NUMBER OF SEATS THAT THE RESTAURANT HAS, UH, SERVINGS, WHETHER IT'S BREAKFAST, LUNCH, DINNER, OR WHATNOT.
THAT WAY WE KIND OF REALLY HONE IN FOR EACH ONE TO, TO APPROPRIATELY CHARGE FOLKS.
SO WE'RE GOING THROUGH SOME NUMBERS NOW COMPARING WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE BEING CHARGED NOW AND WHAT THIS COULD BE.
AND SO IT'LL TAKE A LITTLE TIME, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL SHARE THAT INFORMATION.
EVERYBODY GOOD? WELL, I'M GONNA SPEAK FOR THE RESTAURANT OWNERS IN HERE.
JUST BE SURE THAT YOU UNDERSTAND THAT SEATS DON'T ALWAYS TRANSLATE TO CUSTOMERS.
FOSTER, ARE YOU GONNA LEAD THIS FIELD TRIP? YEAH.
AND I'M ACTUALLY GONNA LET GEORGE LEAD THIS FIELD TRIP.
SO IF WOULD LIKE TO PUT THEIR HIKE AND CHOOSE ON, WE'RE GONNA WALK RIGHT OUT BACK HERE AND TAKE A LOOK AT WHERE THE BOUNDARIES ARE.
YEAH, WE'RE COMING BACK HERE SO YOU CAN LEAVE YOUR STUFF HERE.
A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE WANT TO TRY TO ACCOMPLISH BEFORE WE A WE ADJOURN.
WE SAID TODAY, YOU KNOW, NO DECISIONS AND REALLY THE PROCESS IS GONNA BE, IS TO GIVE FOSTER SOME KIND OF DIRECTION AND THEN THE CITY IS REALLY GONNA DO THE DESIGN WORK AND PULL ALL THAT TOGETHER AND COME BACK AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS IN THE WHOLE BIT.
BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO.
SO WE'D REALLY LIKE TO SEE SOME, I KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES HAVE BEEN GETTING TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT SOME THINGS.
SO WE'D REALLY LIKE TO HEAR WHAT ARE SOME CONCEPTS THAT YOU'VE THOUGHT ABOUT IN THE PROPERTY.
GEORGE, CAN YOU, CAN YOU PUT ONE OF THOSE OTHER ITEMS ON THERE? YES.
BEFORE, BEFORE WE GET GOING, CAN I JUST, LET'S JUST NARROW IN ON THAT.
ARE WE IN AGREEMENT OR ARE WE, UM, CONSENSUS.
THAT WE WANT A COMPACTOR AND THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THE ROUTE OF THE COMPACTOR WITH THE SCREENING, THE FULL BLOWN THING.
ARE WE PRETTY MUCH, IS THERE SOMEBODY THAT YOU KNOW, CONSENSUS ON THAT? OKAY.
SO FOSTER, YOU CAN AT LEAST DRAW THAT INTO YOUR PLAN.
SO LET'S TAKE THAT OFF THE TABLE.
NOW, THE INGRESS AND EGRESS WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THROUGH THE COMMITTEES THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE INGRESS WHERE IT IS NOW WITH THE EGRESS THE WAY IT IS.
SO IN THAT CLOSEST TO MORGAN'S AND OUT, UH, VIA THE OTHER, I HAVEN'T, YOU KNOW, THIS IS OFF OF, UM, WE DO LOOK AT EITHER PLAN, THIS IS THE EXISTING SURVEY.
SO THAT, THAT WOULD BE, YOU'RE CONSIDERING THE SAME DIRECTION WITHOUT A TRAFFIC PATTERN CHANGES, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT.
UM, I GUESS THE OTHER THING, UM, THAT, UH, I LOST MY TRAIN, OH, WAS THE LOADING ZONE THAT WE WOULD CREATE A LOADING ZONE FOR TRUCKS ON, UH, IN SOME AREA.
AGAIN, I'M GONNA LEAVE THAT UP TO THE CITY TO BRING US BACK A DESIGN, BUT THAT MAYBE A LOADING AREA THAT FROM, YOU KNOW, SIX TO 10:00 AM OR 11:00 AM SO WE CAN GET THE TRUCKS OFF THE STREET.
THEY'D BE ABLE LIKE A PEPSI TRUCK OR, UH, OR ONE OF THEM COULD PULL INTO EASILY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO PARK IN THE STREET OR PARK IN THE ACCESS THERE WHERE PEOPLE ARE TRYING TO GO AROUND AND UNLOAD AND DELIVER TO THE, THE VARIOUS PLACES.
I MEAN, RESTAURANT PEOPLE, I THINK THAT WOULD BE OKAY.
OR I KNOW WHERE YOU'RE AT IS MAYBE DIFFERENT MEAN.
UM, I THINK THAT'S, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
GET 'EM OFF THE STREETS A HUNDRED PERCENT.
UM, WITH THE MANY, I MEAN, BAKER'S KITCHEN POPPY'S, UM, WE HAVE A LOT AND THEY'RE, AND THEY'RE USING ALL DIFFERENT COMPANIES NOW AND THEY ALWAYS HAVE.
UM, BUT A LOT OF TIMES THEY'RE COME IN, THEY'RE IN HERE ALL AT THE SAME TIME.
SO IF YOU'RE, IF YOU ONLY HAVE ONE LOADING ZONE AND IT'S BEING OCCUPIED, UM, I I DON'T ANTICIPATE THAT, YOU KNOW, IF WE HAD, WHETHER IT'S TWO DESIGNATED LOADING SPACES IN THIS PARKING LOT, THAT'S WHAT SOLVED THE ISSUES.
BECAUSE AS I'VE WATCHED FOR THE LAST SEVERAL WEEKS IN THE MORNING, YES, YOU'RE RIGHT.
THAT KEY TIME IN THE MORNING WHERE YOU'VE GOT SEVERAL TRUCKS THAT, THAT ARE DOWN HERE.
THAT THEY WOULD BE USED HEAVILY, BUT YOU'RE ALSO GONNA SEE THEM PARKING DOUBLE PARK ON THE STREET BECAUSE THEY STILL SERVE THOSE RESTAURANTS.
BECAUSE I DON'T THINK ANYONE WANTS TO USE THE CARD AND TAKE IT A BLOCK AWAY OR WHATNOT.
SO WE KNOW WE'RE STILL GONNA HAVE AN ISSUE, BUT AT LEAST IT'S HELPING.
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THEY DO HEALTHY.LOOK, I KNOW NEXT DOOR AT, UH, BELLA'S MY BEDROOM'S RIGHT ABOVE THAT.
AND I WILL TELL YOU, THEY DELIVER ANYWHERE BETWEEN THREE 30 AND 5:00 AM EVERY MONDAY MORNING.
SO THERE'S NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT.
THEY'RE COMING, THEY'RE COMING REALLY EARLY IN THE MORNING.
SO, AND I THINK, I KNOW AT BAKER'S KITCHEN WE USUALLY HAVE IT DELIVERED BY SIX SUMMER, BETWEEN SIX YOUR KEY, YOUR KEY KEY LOADER.
AND SO THEY'RE DELIVERING SOMETIME BETWEEN THERE.
SO AT LEAST IT IS EARLIER BEFORE WE'RE GETTING ANY TRAFFIC FOR THE RESTAURANTS OR ANY, ANY TRAFFIC THAT WOULD BE IN THOSE PARKING SPACES.
IS IT WRONG, GEORGE, TO LIVE IN? CAN YOU LIMIT ACCESS TO THAT PARKING LOT TO AFTER CERTAIN HOURS SO THAT TRUCKS KNOW THAT THEY NEED TO DELIVER TO RESTAURANTS BETWEEN THE DESIGNATED SIX AND 10, WHATEVER THE CITY DETERMINES IS LOADING ZONE USE, AFTER WHICH THOSE BIG TRUCKS, WHICH DO BLOCK ALL THE, ALL THE, NOT ONLY PEDESTRIAN BUT THE, THE BRIDGE TRAFFIC THROUGH THERE.
IF THERE WAS A SIGN THAT SAID YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T DELIVER CONTROLLER CONTROLLING THE HOURS, RIGHT? YEAH.
OBVIOUSLY MAYBE HAVE A DESIGNATED SPOT ON THE STREET THAT WOULD'VE TO BE ALMOST IN ORDINANCE.
AND THEN YOU LOOK, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT ALL THE, UH, BEVERAGE DELIVERIES TOO WHEN SOME OF THESE GUYS ARE COMING IN IN THE AFTERNOONS WHEN IT'S FULL AND THEY'RE PARKED BACK HERE.
AND A LOT OF REASONS WHY THAT 'CAUSE A LOT OF THE, THOSE FACILITIES DON'T EVEN OPEN UNTIL IN THE AFTERNOON.
I MEAN, OUR BAR, OUR BAR, UM, BUSINESSES IN TOWN, WHICH, UM, YEAH, I MEAN IT THAT IT REQUIRES DISCUSSION AND THOUGHT, I THINK BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT WITH DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT THINGS.
YOU KNOW, I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT TOO DRIVES THAT'S EVEN THE UPS AND FEDEX TRUCKS DOUBLE PARKED IN THE STREET YOU'RE TRYING TO GET AROUND THEN DELIVER RETAIL DELIVERY TO 16 WHEELERS.
COME OUT AND PARK RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF MIDDLE STREET.
I HAD, I HAD A RETAIL DROP OFF AND IT, BECAUSE IT WAS PALLETIZED.
I MEAN IT WAS, IT WAS FIVE BOXES, BUT THEY HAD IT ON TO PALLETIZED AND THEY TOLD US THAT THEY HAD TO SEND IT BACK TO THE PROVIDER BECAUSE WE WERE CLOSED AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE AFTERNOON.
THE PAPER STORE, WE WEREN'T CLOSED.
HE COULDN'T FIND A PARKING SPACE, SO HE COULDN'T FIGURE OUT WHERE TO PULL THE TRUCK.
SO HE JUST SAID WE WERE CLOSED AND THEY SENT IT BACK TO THE PROVIDER.
BUT THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO, HOW TO HANDLE THAT.
WELL WE CERTAINLY AREN'T THE ONLY CITY AND NO UNITED STATES HAS THIS ISSUE THAT'S FOR SURE.
THAT RENDERING THAT, UH, BILLY DID SHOWS THAT LOADING ZONE RIGHT NEXT TO THE PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY IN THE MIDDLE.
AND THE ONLY THING, AND I THINK I WAS ON THE PARKING COMMITTEE AND WE THOUGHT THAT WAS A GREAT LOCATION FOR IT, BUT WE WERE AWARE THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE PROBLEMS WITH TRUCKS CIRCLING AROUND AND STUFF.
SO A BIG 18 WHEELER WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET IN AND OUT OF THERE.
OR IF HE GOT IN, HE WOULD HAVE TO PULL IN AND THEN BACK OUT OR SOMETHING.
SO CIRCULATION IS A QUESTION, A SERIOUS CONSTRAINT.
SO I, I WOULDN'T CONSIDER THAT AN 18 WHEEL IS GONNA GET IN THERE.
IT MIGHT BE A, UM, LIKE A BOX BOX TRUCK.
WHAT WHAT I WAS THINKING WITH THIS, I MEAN, ONE THING IF WE KEEP IN MIND THAT I BELIEVE THIS CONCEPT WAS TRYING TO MAXIMIZE PARKING LOT, RIGHT? RIGHT.
SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE THAT MINDSET ANYMORE, RIGHT? 'CAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO CREATE A MORE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR HERE.
AND IF YOU JUST TAKE THESE, THESE PROPERTY LAMP HERE AND JUST EXTEND THEM OUT, THAT'S A NICE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR.
AND THAT ACTUALLY LEAVES ENOUGH ROOM IN HERE WHERE YOU COULD HAVE PARALLEL PARKING ALONG HERE THAT COULD ALSO SERVE AS A LOADING ZONE AND 90 DEGREE PARKING AND ENOUGH ROOM WHERE YOU HAVE, UM, NOT ONE WAY TRACK HERE, BUT IN AND OUT ON THAT SAME, ON THAT SAME SIDE.
SO THAT THEN IF YOU EXTEND THIS OUT HERE, THAT LEAVES THIS AREA FOR NI A NICELY LANDSCAPED AREA THAT COULD BE INCORPORATED WITH BENCHES AND SHADE AND TREES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
SO THERE'S A REAL OPPORTUNITY TO CREATE A NICE PEDESTRIAN CORRIDOR THROUGH THERE.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK THE FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN ELECTED TO REPRESENT THE CITY, WHAT THEIR PRIORITIES ARE SINCE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THE CASH.
AND WE ARE WORKING KIND OF IN SILOS NOW.
PARKING IS, IS, AND BEAUTIFICATION AND TRASH ARE ALL WORKING INDEPENDENTLY, BUT IF THE CITY HAS GUIDANCE THAT PARKING ISN'T AS IMPORTANT AS MAYBE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND A A WIDER PEDESTRIAN WALK IS IMPORTANT, THEN ALL OF OUR, OUR, OUR, UM, ADMINISTRATIONS DON'T REALLY MATTER.
AND IF WE'RE NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE, THE GOALS OF OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS ARE.
UM, SO, SO I THINK IT'S FAIR TO GO BACK TO THEM AND SAY, WHAT ARE YOUR PRIORITIES? AND THEY CAN LIST, I DON'T
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THINK THEY HAVE ANY AGENDA TO DO.WELL I THINK IT'S WORTH ASKING BECAUSE IF WE SAY THAT PARKING HAS THE MOST IMPORTANT ON THIS BOARD AND WE'RE NOT GETTING ANY FEEDBACK, SO WELL ACTUALLY WE, WE, I HAVE ASKED AND, AND THERE ARE STRONG OPINIONS.
AND SO I THINK GETTING THOSE IN PRINT AND SAYING THAT, THAT MAYBE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY AND BEAUTIFICATION IS, IS A PRIORITY OVER PARKING.
WE THEN KNOW HOW TO GUIDE OUR, OUR DISCUSSIONS AND THAT'LL BE GOOD UNTIL, UH, AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU RIGHT NOW UNTIL MORGAN'S IS GONNA LOSE 20 PARKING SPACES AND THEY'RE GONNA BE, MORGAN'S DOESN'T HAVE 20.
I UNDERSTAND, BUT I'M JUST SAYING WITH THIS NEW CONCEPT, RIGHT? THEY'RE GONNA BE LOSING 20 PARKING SPACES IN ESSENCE.
AND THE LITTLE LADIES THAT LUNCH THERE ON A REGULAR BASIS, 'CAUSE I'VE GOTTEN THE PHONE CALLS IN THE BACK, WILL START YELLING AND SCREAMING THAT THEY NEED A PLACE TO PARK THE OTHER PEOPLE.
WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE OTHER 20 SPACES THAT ARE IN THERE THAT ARE CURRENTLY LEASED FOR EMPLOYEES THAT WILL NO LONGER, BECAUSE WE, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOING TO A KIOSK TYPE OPTION, THAT'S ALL GONNA GO AWAY.
I MEAN, WE CAN'T EVEN GET PEOPLE TO PARK ACROSS FROM CITY HALL.
I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE CHALLENGES, SO I'M CONCERNED, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE NEED ALL THE PARKING WE CAN GET BUT IN HARMONY, IN HARMONY WITH A WIDER, THAT'S NOT CONSISTENT WITH WHAT OUR ELECTED OFFICIALS FEEL THAN, THAN WHAT WE FEEL MATTERS LESS, I WOULD SAY.
AND, AND I THINK THE, THE PARKING SPACES THAT ARE CURRENTLY FILLED WITH EMPLOYEES THAT WORK AT MORGAN'S, UM, TAKE THE PLACE OF, OF THOSE SWEET OLD LADIES THAT WANT TO PARK THERE.
SO IF THEY WERE ACTUALLY CHANGED.
SO THEY'RE NOT LEASED BY MORGAN'S, BUT THERE MAY BE A DOLLAR AN HOUR COST TO PARK THERE.
WE MAY ACTUALLY INCREASE OUR NUMBER OF PARKING PLACES FOR THOSE THAT VISIT TOWN.
UM, SO I, I THINK IT'S WORTH LOOKING AT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO KNOW THE PRIORITIES AND IF BEAUTIFICATION AND, AND PEDESTRIAN SAFETY IS THE NUMBER ONE THEN, AND TRASH BEING NOW MAYBE SOLVED A DIFFERENT WAY, MAYBE, MAYBE WE CAN PUT OUR FOCUS AND OUR ENERGIES TOWARDS MEETING WHAT THE CITY'S GOALS ARE.
THE CITY BEING THE ELECTED OFFICIALS THAT ARE GONNA VOTE ON THE NEWS, IT'S AN ELECTION'S GONNA CHANGE SOON.
PRIORITIES ARE BASED ON WHO SCREAMS LOUDEST ON SOCIAL MEDIA.
THE RANTING PHONE CALLS THE GAME.
AND, AND THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT FOUR LEG OF THAT IS, LET'S PUT IT IN FRONT OF 'EM.
LET US, LET THEM TELL US ON RECORD SURE.
THAT THIS IS, NO, WE DON'T LIKE THIS PLAN.
WE EITHER LIKE IT OR DON'T LIKE IT.
THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE GONNA GET YOU TO USE JOHN HARRELSON'S ALITY CHICKEN AND EGG, YOU KNOW, WHAT COMES FIRST? WELL, I MEAN LIKE EVERYTHING IN LIFE IS, IT IS WAY COMPLICATED.
AND I'LL JUST THROW ANOTHER FACTOID OUT THERE TO JUST MAKE IT MORE COMPLICATED THAN WHAT WE'RE CURRENTLY TALKING ABOUT WITH THE COUNTY'S DECISION TO MOVE OFFICES AND STUFF.
THERE'S SOME UNKNOWNS ABOUT PARCELS NOT THAT FAR FROM THIS.
AND YOU KNOW, SO DO YOU BACK BURNER THIS FOR 24 MONTHS OR DO YOU MOVE FORWARD AND, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S THE CITY OR COUNTY GONNA DO WITH THAT? AND THAT COULD BE A FACTOR.
AND THEN YOU GOT THE ELECTED OFFICIALS IN ELECTION YEAR AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR LEGACY, NOT THE FUTURE NECESSARILY.
UM, BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT THE BEST WAY TO COME TO A CONCLUSION IS TO MAKE A DECISION.
IF IT'S A WRONG THING, THEN WE CAN, IT'LL BE, SO AGAIN, WE REVISIT YEAH.
WE'RE GONNA PAT, WE'RE GONNA DIRECT OR WE ARE GIVING THIS FEEDBACK NOW FOSTER'S HEARING THIS FEEDBACK, HE'LL GO BACK, PUT SOME PLANS TOGETHER, WHATEVER TO, OR TALK TO US THAT, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.
THE, JUST SOME DIRECTION, THE GENERAL RECOMMENDATION OF, HEY, WE, WE KIND OF LIKE TO SEE THIS, THIS, AND THIS.
AND OF COURSE, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL TALK WITH THE ELECTED OFFICIALS AND, AND WE'LL GET THE, THE, THE, UH, IDEA.
IT'LL, IT WILL COME BACK IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU'RE RECOMMENDING.
SO ARE WE ALL, UM, CONSENSUS AGAIN ABOUT, UM, KIOSK PARKING FOR THIS PARKING LOT VERSUS NO, I THINK KIOSK IS, I, I TOTALLY AGREE ON THAT.
ONE THING I WANNA SAY ABOUT THE PARKING THING, IF I, IF I CAN JUST SAY JUST A LITTLE SOMETHING.
SO, UM, IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PARKING SPACES FOR MORGAN'S RESTAURANT EMPLOYEES, AND I'M JUST, BECAUSE WE JUST BROUGHT THAT UP.
I DIDN'T SAY EMPLOYEES, I JUST SAID MORGAN'S.
BUT YOU HAVE PARKING SPACES THAT FOR THE EMPLOYEES OF MORGAN'S, IS THAT WHAT I HEARD? NO, MORGAN SPACES ON A SAID THAT, BUT THEY LEASE THOSE SPACES.
SO WHAT ABOUT GIVING MORGAN'S LITTLE VOUCHERS FOR THEIR EMPLOYEES SO THEY CAN PARK IN THE PUBLIC, UH, IN THE CITY PARKING LOT WHERE THEY PAY BY THE HOUR.
UH, BUT THEIR EMPLOYEES GET, BECAUSE DURING THE DAY, AND I WALK DOWN THERE ON P*****K STREET EVERY DAY, AND I KNOW THAT YOU'RE SAYING YOU'RE BRINGING IN MORE MONEY FOR THAT PARKING LOT, BUT IT'S ALWAYS EMPTY.
IT'S JUST ALWAYS, I MEAN IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT ALWAYS, ALWAYS EMPTY OR WE WOULDN'T BE GENERATING ABOUT 15,000 A YEAR ON OKAY.
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IT'S EMPTY.SO EMPLOYEES COULD DURING DAY AT NIGHT EMPLOYEE.
SO, BUT EMPLOYEES COULD PARK THERE IF THEY HAD VOUCHERS FROM YOUR REP.
IF YOU'RE PAYING YOUR EMPLOYEES TO PARK, IF YOU'RE GIVING THEM THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, THING TO DO, THEN CAN THEY USE THAT PARKING LOT? WELL, IF I WAS MORGAN'S, I'D TELL MY EMPLOYEES THERE'S A FREE CITY LOT ABOUT A 50 YARDS FURTHER AWAY IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
AND OBVIOUSLY MOST OF THEIR EMPLOYEES PARK THERE.
'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA SEE 'EM WALKING DOWN THE STREET.
I SEE 'EM WALKING WITH THE SHIRT, BUT I SEE, I SEE IT ALL THE TIME TOO.
WHY DO THEY THOSE LATE THEY PARK LATER.
THEY'VE MADE THAT DECISION ABSENT ANY INPUT FROM ME.
WELL THEN, AND I'M, I'M GONNA SAY THIS TOO, BUT KEEP IN MIND THAT, UH, MORGAN'S LANDLORD OWNS THAT AREA BEHIND THERE.
SO AS WE LOOK, BUT WE WON'T NEED THAT.
WELL, AS WE LOOK AT HOW WE'RE DESIGNING THIS, WE'VE GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THAT THAT'S RIGHT.
WE, WE WON'T NEED THAT'S RIGHT.
THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOTTA BE REALISTIC ABOUT'S SITUATION.
THAT'S WHY GUARANTEE, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE THIS IS GONNA ALWAYS BE ACCESSIBLE.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT WHERE'S THE, THE BILL POLO BUILDING.
THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THERE'S ALWAYS GONNA BE ACCESS BEHIND THE POLOS PLACE EITHER.
I MEAN, A WALL COULD BE PUT UP THERE, A WALL COULD BE PUT UP HERE.
SO WE'VE GOT TO PLAN ON WHERE THE PROPERTY LINES ARE.
THAT'S, THAT'S ALL WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT.
SO IF WE, IF IT ENDS UP BEING THAT THE RECOMMENDATION IS MADE THAT YES, WE JUST WANT TO LOOK AT HAVING PARKING RIGHT HERE AND DO SOMETHING ELSE OVER HERE.
WELL WE'VE GOTTA FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET IN AND GET OUT THE SAME WAY.
NOW THIS MAY STILL BE OPEN FOR WHO KNOWS HOW LONG, BUT IT CAN CLOSE AT ANY TIME.
NOTHING'S THE LAY OF NO IT ISN'T.
AND, AND SO HOW FULL IS THAT CITY PARKING LOT? I MEAN, DOES IT FILL UP, DO YOU KNOW? I MEAN DO YOU KNOW WHEN IT'S, IS IT, IS IT FALL? YEAH, USUALLY WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY, SATURDAY EVENINGS AND SUNDAYS IS WHERE WE GET THE CAPACITY IS WHEN IT'S PULLED.
AND THE REST OF THE TIME IT'S NOT ALL THAT YOU HAVE EMPTY, YOU HAVE SPACE.
THERE'S LOTS OF SPACE DURING THE, SO FOR EMPLOYEES PAY FOR IT IS MORE THAN WELCOME TO HAVE THEIR EMPLOYEES PARK THERE AS LONG AS THEY'RE PAYING.
NO, BUT IF MORTGAGE IS ALREADY PAYING FOR PARKING SPACES, PUT THAT MONEY TOWARDS A VOUCHER.
BUT IT WOULD BE, WE'RE NOT, AND WE'RE NOT GONNA GET INTO TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE TO OPEN IT UP.
IT'S, IT'S, THAT'S PUBLIC PARK.
WE HAVE TO OPEN IT UP FOR EVERYONE.
AND SO IF SOMETHING HAPPENS ON THE, ON THE LOWER SIDE OF THIS WHERE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE LEASING ON THAT LOWER SIDE ARE, SOME OF 'EM ARE RESIDENTS, SOME OF 'EM ARE PROPERTY OWNERS, THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITY AS WELL.
AND THAT JUST GETS INTO A MESS THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA NO TACKLE BACK.
FOSTER MAY, THERE ARE SOME PEOPLE PARKING IN LEASING SPACES IN THAT LOT THAT ARE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY PARKING SPACE, SO THEY'LL HAVE TO, YOU KNOW, DEAL AND PAY THE $8 A DAY OR SURE.
YOU KNOW, FOR EIGHT HOURS IT WOULD BE $8.
IT'S A DOLLAR AN HOUR UNTIL WHAT TIME? FOSTER 8:00 PM TILL 8:00 PM TILL 8:00 PM 8:00 AM TO 8:00 PM YES.
GIVEN THE FACT THAT THIS ORGAN, THIS MSD MONEY WOULD BE USED TO SPEND ON THIS, IF YOU WERE TO OPEN IT UP, WOULD THAT MONEY GET BACK INTO MSD OR GENERAL FUND? IT WILL GO BACK INTO THE MSD.
SO THAT WOULD BE IN REVENUE, IT'D BE REVENUE STREAM FOR US, CORRECT.
CURRENTLY THE LEASED PARKING HERE AT THIS LOT AT HANCOCK AND ALSO AT, UH, P*****K STREET LOT THAT, THAT IS GOING BACK INTO MSD.
ALRIGHT, SO ARE WE ON THE SAME PAGE? WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD.
I THINK MOST OF OUR QUESTIONS HAVE BEEN ANSWERED TODAY.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? FOSTER ANYTHING ELSE YOU NEED FROM US? AND I'M GONNA MAKE ANOTHER COMMENT.
'CAUSE YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS GET OPENED UP WHEN WE TRY TO DO THIS AND THERE'S NO WAY THAT THIS GROUP OR SEVERAL OTHER GROUPS ARE GONNA BE ABLE TO SOLVE A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.
'CAUSE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, WE'VE GOT A PARKING PROBLEM, WE'VE GOT A TRASH PROBLEM, AND JUST WITH WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO WITH THIS, THERE'S NO GUARANTEE THAT THOSE PROBLEMS ARE GONNA BE RESOLVED.
AND, AND SO YOU SHOULDN'T THINK ABOUT IT IN THAT WAY, RIGHT? 'CAUSE YOU MAY THINK WE'VE GOT THE GREATEST SOLUTION IN THE WORLD, BUT SOMEONE ELSE CAN LOOK AT IT WITH DIFFERENT EYES AND THINK, NOPE, THIS ISN'T GOING TO FLY.
AND THEN WE GET BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
SO FOCUSING ON HOW, HOW COULD THIS LOOK IN THE FUTURE? YES.
WE, I'VE HEARD YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT PARKING.
I'VE HEARD YOUR COMMENTS ABOUT TRASH AND THINGS AND TRASH IS A VERY DIFFICULT THING TO DEAL WITH.
WE KNOW WE'VE GOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES, UH, IN, IN THE INNER FOUR THAT NEED THAT.
UH, I'VE MADE MY STANCE PERFECTLY CLEAR ON THE TRASH.
I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT IN REALITY IT'S REALLY HARD
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TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE RESTAURANTS AND ALL WHERE THOSE RECEPTACLES ARE GONNA BE.AND SO WE'RE DEFINITELY KEEPING THAT IN MIND AS WE, AS WE MOVE FORWARD.
I WISH WE HAD, I WISH WE HAD A WHOLE ACRE, UH, BACK HERE THAT WE COULD DO NOTHING WITH.
THERE'S AN INTERVENTION CALLED THE WHEELS AND THEY CAN GET A CART AND ROLL IT TO WHEREVER YOU ALL DECIDE TO PUT IT.
BUT HAVING IT IS, IS ESSENTIAL.
SO WHEREVER YOU WANT PUT IT, I'LL TAKE IT TO THAT POINT TO GEORGE.
WELL, AND A COUPLE OF US WERE LOOKING, WHEN WE WERE OUT THERE, YOU CAN FIT A 30 FOOT CONTAINER.
IF YOU USE THIS SPACE HERE, YOU'VE GOT 30 FEET WITHIN THE CITY LINE AND THE PARKING THAT'S THERE.
SO YOU CAN FIT A COM COMPACTOR IN THAT AREA.
I WAS ASKING G WHEN GSR OR GFL WERE HERE, THE REASON WHY THEY DIDN'T WANT TO DO IT, UH, LINEAR LIKE THAT IS THEY DON'T WANT THE TRUCK BACKING IN.
SO THEY WANTED THE, THEY WANT THE TRUCK TO COME IN, MAKE WHEREVER THE TURN IS IT USED TO BE RIGHT.
MAKE THE TURN AND THEN BACK UP TO IT AND THEN COME OUT AND THEN GO OUT.
WELL, THERE'S NO INSURANCE THAT'S SAID.
SO CURRENTLY WHAT? IT'S, IT'S WHEN NO TRAFFIC IS THERE.
THEY COME IN AT FIVE 30 IN THE MORNING AND, AND IT'S NOT UNCOMMON FOR THEM TO DRIVE IN AGAINST THE TRAFFIC FLOW AND ALL THEY WOULD DO IS YEAH, BUT THAT'S GOOD TOO.
SO, SO YOU CAN CHANGE THE TRAFFIC PATTERN IF YOU REDO THE PARKING LOT.
I WOULD JUST QUESTION THEY ARE SAYING, BECAUSE YOU CAN PULL STRAIGHT IN, PULL IT OFF, BACK UP, TAKE THE CORNER.
I MEAN I, IF THEY SAID THAT I'D LIKE
EVERYBODY WE'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED.
UM, THERE WAS A CONCERN ABOUT IT BEING ON CITY PROPERTY, TRUST ME.
IS THAT KIND OF LIKE IT'S GOTTA BE, OR OH, I, I STILL HAVE A CONCERN ABOUT ON CITY PROPERTY, I'VE STATED IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, I DON'T WANT IT ON CITY PROPERTY 'CAUSE IT BECOMES OUR ISSUE THAT WE'VE GOTTA DEAL WITH, WHICH WE'RE DEALING WITH NOW, AT LEAST ON A WEEKLY OR EVERY OTHER WEEK BASIS.
WHEN WE'VE GOT FOLKS, WHETHER THEY'RE PAYING FOR THE DUMPSTERS OR THEY'RE NOT PAYING FOR THE DUMPSTERS, THEY DON'T CLEAN UP THEIR MESS OR GFL DOESN'T DO A GREAT JOB AND DOING AN EXTRA DUMP AND SO BAGS ARE LEFT ON THE, ON THE SIDE OF IT.
OR SOMEONE PUTS, UH, PALLETS OUT THERE AND, AND GFL DOESN'T PICK THAT UP.
AND WE REALLY WOULD PREFER THAT, THAT THE BUSINESS OWNERS TAKE CARE OF THEIR OWN TRASH ISSUE.
AND ONCE UPON TIME, THAT'S THE WAY THINGS WERE IN THE CITY.
AND THEN THE CITY TOOK IT AWAY FROM 'EM AND FORCED THEM TO USE THE CITY APPROVED PERSON.
SO IT'S PRETTY SCHIZOPHRENIC FOR THOSE OF THOSE USE.
AND I THINK YOU NOT FELT ABOUT THIS FOSTER AND I THINK THERE'S DEFINITELY A WAY I, THERE'S A, THERE'S A WAY TO SOLVE IT.
SO I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT AT ALL.
IT NEEDS TO BE ON THAT BECAUSE THEN WE'RE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
AND WE DON'T NEED TO BE BACK TO SQUARE ONE.
WELL THE, THE FONT LOCK WOULD GET RID OF SOME FREELOADERS AND MAYBE SOME SIGNAGE.
NO UMBRELLAS,
I THINK, I THINK REGARDLESS OF WHAT HAPPENS IF, IF THIS DOES STILL STAY ON THE CITY PROPERTY, YES IT'S GONNA BE, IT'S GOING, THERE'S GONNA BE A BARRIER AROUND THIS.
THERE'S GONNA BE A CAMERA, THERE'S GOING TO BE CONTROLLED ACCESS TO THIS AND, AND UM, AND OF COURSE SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO PATROL THAT.
SOMEONE'S GONNA HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEONE'S NOT GIVEN A KEY FOB IF THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO TO, TO YOUR BUDDY NEXT DOOR.
UH, WE'VE GOTTEN TO HAVE SOME THINGS IN PLACE, BUT AGAIN, THAT'S GONNA FALL.
IF IT'S ON CITY PROPERTY, IT'S GONNA FALL ON THAT FELLOW RIGHT OVER THERE TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN ENFORCED.
AND WHEN I GET THE COMPLAINTS TO MAKE SURE HE DEALS WITH THAT, UH, AS THEY COME UP.
BUT DON'T YOU THINK THAT THE COMPLAINTS WOULD BE CUT DOWN TO ABOUT ZERO? THE FACT THAT IT WOULD BE ENCLOSED THERE'S NOT LIQUID.
I MEAN I CAN, THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD HOPE.
WELL, I UNDERSTAND NOTHING'S IMPERFECT, BUT, BUT WHAT I THOROUGHLY SEE, UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO ADDRESS, I MEAN, HOW HIGH ARE THE WALLS GONNA BE? I CAN, I CAN, I CAN SEE RIGHT NOW PEOPLE DRIVING BY WITH THEIR PICKUP TRUCKS LATE AT NIGHT THROWING THE BAGS OVER.
AND SO WHOEVER'S GOING IN THE NEXT DAY TO DUMP THEIR TRASH, THEY SEE NOTHING BUT A BUNCH OF TRASH BAGS.
AND THERE, THERE'S ALWAYS SOME WAY THAT SOMEONE'S GONNA TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.
THE BEST EXAMPLE WAS THAT A UMBRELLA BEING BUILT BY THIS CROWD.
SO, SO TWO DAYS AGO IT WAS A SIX PANEL, 12 PANEL GLASS DOOR AND THE DOOR FRAME AND AN AIR CONDITIONING UNIT THAT ARE PUT OUT THERE.
UM, AND, AND ANY UNIT THAT'S THERE ANYTHING IS GOING TO BE THE CITY DUMP.
UM, AND WE KNOW WHERE IT COMES FROM.
BUT, BUT WE HAD THAT PROBLEM BEHIND THE CHELSEA TOO.
THERE'S BEEN A COUCH BACK THERE.
I GOT THAT PROBLEM BEHIND MY OFFICE.
THERE'S BEEN A COUCH IN THE SIDE OF THE DUMPSTER FOR I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY MONTHS.
THAT'S JUST, I'M NOT SAYING IT'S A PERFECT SOLUTION, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE TO THAT POINT TOO, AT LEAST WITH
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THIS SOLUTION, THE SECURITY CAMERA AND THE EXTRA HELP THIS ORGANIZATION, THIS TAX MONEY CAN USE, BE USED TO PAY FOR THAT.I THINK A SECURITY CAMERA THAT THE POLICE ARE WILLING TO FOLLOW UP ON IF A PICKUP TRUCK GOES, AND I'M SURE IT WILL HAPPEN.
IF THEY GO BY THEN THE, THE CAMERA NEEDS TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP A LICENSE MM-HMM
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, FIND THE GUY.
UM, BUT ALSO I THINK CONTROLLED ACCESS TO THE SHOOT IS KEY.
AND, AND THAT TECHNOLOGY IS SUCH THAT IF IT'S SOMEONE FROM BAXTER'S, BAXTER'S HAS A UNIQUE FOB OR A UNIQUE PUNCH CODE AND THEY'LL SAY BAXTER'S WAS THERE AT, YOU KNOW, 10:27 PM AND IF THEY, IF YOU GIVE IT TO YOUR BUDDY, THEY'RE GONNA KNOW, WOW, PAXERS ARE GOING THERE AN AN AWFUL LOT.
I MEAN, IT IS A PAIN IN THE ASS.
I THINK THE CODE WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE CODE WOULD WOULD BE BETTER THAN THE FOB BECAUSE THEY'LL LOSE THE FOB KEYS, HAVE A YARD STICK ATTACHMENT.
WELL, AND TO THAT POINT, NOT FROM A CAMERA PERSPECTIVE, WHAT KIND OF SCHOOL DID YOU GO TO? I THINK HE TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THIS.
MULTIPLE CAMERAS, DIFFERENT ANGLES.
I MEAN, AND JIM, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU, I WOULD THINK A LOT OF LANDLORDS AROUND THERE WOULD BE OKAY WITH MOUNTING A CAMERA ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING SO YOU COULD SEE WHAT WAS GOING ON.
I'M NOT PUTTING WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH.
NO, WELL WE ALREADY HAD ONE ON THE BACK COPIES.
SO WE HAVE THERE FOR OUR PURPOSES EVEN BETTER.
I THINK, I THINK CAMERAS BACK THERE ARE IMPORTANT KIND OF IN THAT, IN THAT AREA.
SO FOSTER, HAVE YOU THOUGHT OUT THE PALLETS? WHAT, WHERE DO THE PALLETS GO? WHERE THE PALLETS.
NOT JUST PALLETS IN TERMS OF WHAT, WHERE DID THE PALLETS GO? DROPS THEM.
WHERE IN THAT IMAGE WITH THE, THERE IS, THERE IS NO LOCATION FOR A DESIGNATED LOCATION FOR PALLETS.
SO EVERYBODY'S ON THEIR OWN FOR PALLETS.
IT'S RIGHT NOW EVEN, EVEN THE CONVENIENCE SITES DO NOT TAKE PALLETS UNLESS I HAVE.
NOT THAT IT'S YOU, BUT I HAVE NOTICED LOTS OF PALLETS.
THEY'RE THERE, BUT GFL WON'T PICK THEM UP.
SO, SO THERE'S NO PLACE, I MEAN, IS THERE, YOU KNOW, LIKE IN THE RESIDENCE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE A DAY THAT COMES BY, PICKS UP THINGS LIKE COUCHES AND WHATEVER.
DO WE HAVE A DAY LIKE THAT DOWNTOWN? WE HAVE TO ADD A FIRE PIT TO THE AMENITIES.
SO YOU RESIDENT DOWNTOWN, NOT THE LUXURY OF THAT TYPE OF PALLET WOULD BE CONSIDERED VERY SIMILAR TO CONSTRUCTION DEBRIS.
YOU WOULD'VE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT ON YOUR OWN.
JUST LIKE A RESIDENT WOULD TAKE IT INTO ONE OF THE CONVENING CENTERS.
BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER THINGS SUCH AS A COUCH OR YOU KNOW, WHERE THEY CALL IT WHITE TRASH OR WHITE GOODS? WHITE GOODS.
I'M WHITE FROM NEW YORK, SO I GET IT.
THAT'S ACTUALLY BUILT INTO ONLY THE RESIDENTIAL.
SO COMMERCIAL, COMMERCIAL DISNEY.
I KNOW, BUT THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO LIVE DOWNTOWN.
I PAY RESIDENTIAL FEES FOR MY TRASH.
AND AND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT, IF YOU JUST CALL, CALL OUR OFFICE SO THAT, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.
WE CAN ARRANGE TO HAVE A PICK UP.
MOST NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE A CURB AREA.
THAT'S WHAT I'M, WE DON'T HAVE THAT DOWN.
SO I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WORKS.
WE'LL HAVE A TRUCK SCHEDULED FOR THE DAY.
YOU WANNA PUT, AND YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE KINDA INFORMATION THAT WOULD BE SO HELPFUL ON OUR WEBSITE.
YOU KNOW, UM, YOU KNOW, IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, MAYBE UNDER MSD, ARE YOU A RESIDENT? ARE YOU A COMMERCIAL BUSINESS? THAT'LL SAY THIS IS OUR PICKUP, THIS IS WHAT YOU DO.
I I JUST, WE NEED SOME MORE INFORMATION.
SPEAKING OF PHONE CALLS, WE TRACKED FOR AN EIGHT MONTH PERIOD, WE HAD 2,600 CALLS REGARDING TRASH TOWER OFFICE.
OH, I THOUGHT YOU SAID EIGHT MONTHS.
NO, THAT, THAT, THEY TRACKED IT FOR THAT TIME, BUT 2,600 A MONTH.
DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? EMAILS TO YOU THAT, A A LOT OF CALLS.
I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT OUR MEETING IS A WEEK FROM TUESDAY, MAY 20TH, 12 NOON.
EVERYBODY HEAR ME? MAY 20TH, 12 NOON HERE.
WE'LL BE WORKING ON FOSTER TO GET AN AGENDA OUT TO YOU.
BUT JUST KNOW THAT IS OUR NEXT REGULAR MEETING.
SO WE WILL HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL AS ANY PROPOSED PROJECTS THAT FOSTER MIGHT HAVE RECEIVED.
AND, AND I'VE SPOKEN WITH SEVERAL OF YOU ABOUT PROJECTS.
SO IF, IF SOME OF YOU HAVE SOME PROJECTS THAT, THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US, YOU'LL OBVIOUSLY BE ABLE TO BRING 'EM UP DURING THE MEETING.
BUT, BUT I'D LOVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH YOU.
THAT WAY WE CAN MAKE SURE WE CAN HAVE SOME ACCURATE PRICES AS MUCH AS WE CAN.
UH, WHEN WE ACTUALLY DO THIS MEETING AND, AND DON'T EXPECT AN HOUR.
I HAVE A FEELING IT'S GONNA TAKE A LITTLE BIT LONGER MM-HMM
'CAUSE THE GOAL IS TO, UM, BRING SOME RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE GOVERNING BOARD WITH SEVERAL PROJECTS.
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OKAY? OKAY.I UNFORTUNATELY WON'T BE IN TOWN.
WE WE CAN, IF IT'S NOT A ZOOM, WE'LL MAKE SURE IT, IT'S A CALL OR EVEN A YEAH, YEAH.
EVEN IF IT'S JUST SITTING IN FRONT OF HIM OR WHATEVER.
I WANT TO BE YOU MAKE A LIKE THAT.
I WANT TO BE, AND AND WE'LL SEND YOU AN EMAIL THOUGH.
YOU WANT TO BE IN THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENS.
SO THAT'S ALLOWED UNDER THE RULES.
YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO VOTE, VOTE, VOTE.
YOU WOULD ZOOM IN, BUT YOU CANNOT VOTE.
I HAVE NO PROBLEM YOU BEING ABLE TO LISTEN IN.
CAN YOU MY PROXY? YEAH, YOU CAN YOU GIVE COMMENTARY, CHRIS? OH YES.
YOU GAUGE YOU CAN ENGAGE, YOU CAN DISCUSS, YOU CAN BE PART OF EVERYTHING.
AND, AND YOU CAN GIVE YOUR PROXY TO SOMEBODY.
IF ANYBODY DOESN'T HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMENTS, DO I GET A MOTION TO ADJOURN? AUR? SECOND.