Jul 09, 2025 Redevelopment Commission

UM, SO IF WE COULD GET STARTED WITH THE ROLL CALL EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

COULD YOU STAY SOME WAYS HERE? ALL RIGHT.

IT'S SIX O'CLOCK AND IT'S TIME TO CALL THE ORDER THIS REGULAR SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

[1. Roll Call]

FOR THE RECORD, HE'S HERE.

[2. Consider approving the Agenda]

THE FIRST ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE AGENDA AND YOU HAVE ALL RECEIVED YOUR PACKETS.

UM, HOPE YOU'VE HAD TIME TO LOOK THROUGH THE AGENDA, THE MEETING MINUTES THAT ARE NEXT TO APPROVE.

UM, CAN I GET A MOTION TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA? SO MOVED.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA.

UH, NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS TO CONSIDER APPROVING THE MEETING MINUTES.

AND TONIGHT'S AGENDA, WHICH IS A PRETTY FULL ONE, IS APPROVED.

[3. Consider approval of Minutes: - April 2025 - May 14, 2025 - May 28, 202]

AND WE HAVE MEETING MINUTES FROM THREE PREVIOUS MEETINGS.

UM, APRIL OF 2025, AND THEN TWO MEETING MINUTES MAY 15TH AND MAY 28TH, 2025.

NOW, UM, IT'S MAY 15TH, THE NIGHT WE DID NOT HAVE A FORUM.

UH, YES.

DO WE STILL, WE NEED TO APPROVE THOSE MEETING MINUTES JUST FOR THE RECORD.

UH, WILL TURN, KICK THAT TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT I BELIEVE SO.

YES, MA'AM.

I SEE YOU NODDING YES.

SO IF, HAS EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO READ THROUGH THE MINUTES, FIND ANYTHING YOU MIGHT, UM, THING NEEDS TO BE CHANGED? IF NOT, I'D LIKE A MOTION TO APPROVE ALL THREE SETS OF THOSE MEETING MINUTES.

MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS SUBMITTED.

I A MOTION SECOND.

IN A SECOND.

UM, AND IS IT OKAY, UM, ATTORNEY IF WE APPROVE ALL THREE TOGETHER, YOU CAN DO ALL THREE TOGETHER SO LONG AS THE VOTE IS UNANIMOUS.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO APPROVE ALL THREE SETS OF MEETING MINUTES.

AND NOW, IF EVERYONE WILL TURN TO THEIR MISSION AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN, UM, SERVICE FOR THE CITY FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS NOW, AND WE READ THESE EVERY TIME.

AND ALL OPPOSED? SOUNDS LIKE THE MOTION CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

[4. Mission Statement]

I KNOW THAT SOMETIMES WE FEEL LIKE IT'S JUST A ROTE EXERCISE, BUT I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO, UM, AS WE READ 'EM TONIGHT, THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS THAT WE ARE HERE TO ACCOMPLISH THE WORK WE'RE DOING BY FOLLOWING THIS MISSION STATEMENT IN OUR GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

SO, I'LL READ THE MISSION STATEMENT AND THEN I'LL HAVE EVERYBODY READ THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.

UH, THE NEWBURN REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS LEADING THE WAY FOR COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT BY DIRECTLY ADDRESSING COMMUNITY NEEDS AND THE VITAL AREAS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO AN ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND PUBLICLY DRIVEN PROCESS.

AND I'M GONNA START WITH YOU, COMMISSIONER PARAGO, FOR THE FIRST ONE, PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE EQUAL TIME, RESPECT OTHERS' OPINION, LISTEN TO BILL CONSENSUS, SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION OF PERCEPTION, STAY FOCUSED, BE ACTION ORIENTED.

AND THE LAST ONE FOR YOU, MORGAN, BELIEVE, BELIEVE.

SO, I KNOW THAT WE SAY THESE ALL THE TIME, AND I KNOW THEY'RE NOT EMPTY WORDS, BUT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT EVEN THOUGH WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS AND COME FROM DIFFERENT PLACES, UM, EVERYBODY'S OPINION IS VALUABLE HERE ON THE COMMISSION.

SO I THANK YOU FOR THAT.

UM, THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS PUBLIC COMMENT.

DO WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT THAT WISHES TO SPEAK TONIGHT? YOU'RE WELCOME.

UM, OUR NEW BUSINESS TONIGHT IS WE HAVE AN EXCITING, UM, PRESENTATION, BUT DE TRIBBLE WITH THE, UM, NEWBURN MPO.

AND, UH, IS, NO ONE IS COMING.

UM, TO APPROACH THE MIC, I'M GONNA ASSUME THAT THERE'S NO PUBLIC

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COMMENT.

[6.a. MPO Micro-Transit Presentation]

AND SHE IS GONNA TAKE SOME TIME TONIGHT TO TELL US ABOUT THE MICRO TRANSIT PROJECT.

AND THIS IS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US AS COMMISSION TO, UM, BETTER UNDERSTAND THE WORK THE MPO IS DOING AND HOW WE AS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION CAN PARTNER WITH IT.

SO HOPE EVERYBODY WILL GIVE YOUR ATTENTION, UM, TO MS. TROUBLE.

WELL, GOOD EVENING EVERYBODY.

UM, I AM DEANNA TROUBLE AND I'M WITH THE NEW BERN AREA METROPOLITAN CLINIC ORGANIZATION.

AND MANY OF YOU PROBABLY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF US.

UM, BUT AS AN MPO, WE DO REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION FOR THE LARGER COMMUNITY.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT NOT JUST NEW BERN, BUT UM, BRIDGETON, REDWOODS, RIVER BEND, AND PARTS OF COUNTY.

AND SO WHEN WE LOOK AT TRANSPORTATION OPTIONS, WE'RE LOOKING FOR ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

UH, MOST PEOPLE SEEM TO FOCUS JUST ON, UM, VEHICLES, BUT WE ALSO WORK WITH OUR TRANSIT AGENCY WITH RAIL, UM, AV, UM, AVIATION, UM, BICYCLE AND PEDESTRIANS, ET CETERA.

AND SO, UM, WE GOT, UM, WE'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS OR INCORPORATED, UM, SINCE THE 2010 CENSUS.

UM, AND SO WE'RE JUST QUIETLY WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND TO JUST PROMOTE IN EFFICIENCIES OF ALL MODES OF TRANSPORTATION.

BUT TONIGHT I'M HERE TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT A NEW EXCITING THING THAT, UM, DO YOU HAVE TO DO IT WITH THEM? YEP.

UM, SO TONIGHT I AM GONNA BE TALKING TO YOU WITH, UM, A PARTNERSHIP.

WE ARE HELPING CARTS.

UM, I THINK MOST OF YOU KNOW THAT CARTS IS OUR REGIONAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM.

UM, IT IS PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF YOU WANT TO GO FAR, GO LOCAL, GO-KARTS, UM, CARTS ACTUALLY SERVES THREE COUNTIES.

IT SERVES CRAVEN, JONES, AND PAMLICO.

AND SO TONIGHT WE'RE GONNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THEIR EXISTING SERVICE.

UM, 'CAUSE WHAT WE FOUND IS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE THAT WE HAVE PUBLIC TRANSIT.

UM, THEN ALSO TALK ABOUT AN EXCITING NEW OPPORTUNITY CALLED MICRO TRANSIT THAT WE'RE HOPING WILL BE VERY BENEFICIAL AS AN ALTERNATIVE MODE OF TRANSPORTATION TO THE FIXED ROUTE.

SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, UM, CARTS ACTUALLY BEGAN IN OPERATIONS IN 1980.

UM, AND IT'S A SMALL OPERATION WHERE, UM, WE'VE GOT, UH, 31 DRIVERS, 29 BUSES.

BUT THE IMPORTANT THING TO NOTICE IS LOOK AT ALL THOSE RIDERSHIP.

AND WHEN WE SAY DEMAND WRITERS, DEMAND WRITERS ARE THOSE THAT ARE TRAVELING OUTSIDE OF THE URBAN AREA OR OUTSIDE OF NEW BERN, BUT JUST IN NEW BERN, UM, PRIMARILY WITHIN THE FIXED ROUTE.

AND IN YOUR COMMERCIAL QUARTERS, WE HAVE 15,000 WRITERS AS OF LAST YEAR, OR FISCAL YEAR 24.

AND WHAT WE'VE SEEN IS THOSE NUMBERS CONTINUE TO RISE, WHICH MEANS PEOPLE NEED TRANSPORTATION AND CARTS IS A VIABLE OPTION FOR THEM TO RIDE.

SO A LOT OF PEOPLE SEE THE BUS MAY BE TRAVELING AROUND TOWN, BUT MAYBE THEY DON'T REALIZE THAT IT'S CARTS.

SO CARTS IS, UM, THEY'RE CLEAN, THEY'RE NEW.

YOU HAVE DRIVERS THAT ARE EDUCATED.

THEY, UM, HAVE DRIVER SAFETY, DRUG AND ALCOHOL TESTING.

AND THE VEHICLES THEMSELVES HAVE A MAINTENANCE RECORD THAT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED TO FTA STANDARDS.

SO I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT CARTS, CARTS IS ONE NAME, BUT TWO OPTIONS.

AND SO WE HAVE THE DEMAND RESPONSE, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT SERVES OVER THE THREE COUNTIES.

AND THAT DOES REQUIRE YOU TO GO, TO, GO BACK ONE.

THANKS, YOU'RE TOO FAST.

UM, SO WE HAVE THE DEMAND RESPONSE, WHICH GOES OVER THE THREE COUNTIES.

AND THEN WE HAVE THE URBAN SERVICE, WHICH FOCUSES ON YOUR THREE FIXED ROUTES.

THOSE THREE FIXED ROUTES ARE PRIMARILY IN, UM, YOUR DOWNTOWN IN GOING TO WALMART, ET CETERA.

SO THOSE ARE THINKING LIKE YOUR, UM, POINTS OF INTEREST.

SO THE DEMAND RESPONSE, UM, IT OFFERS CURB TO CURB SERVICE.

SO YOU CAN EITHER WORK WITH ONE OF YOUR HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS, OR YOU CAN CALL THEM, THEY DO REQUIRE A 48 HOUR ADVANCE NOTIFICATION TO BOOK THAT RIDE.

IT'S A GUARANTEED RIDE.

THEY'LL PICK YOU UP ANYWHERE BETWEEN 5:00 AM 6:00 PM THEY'LL WORK WITH YOU TO COORDINATE A TIME YOU NORMALLY GET PICKED UP WITHIN A 30 MINUTE WAIT TIME.

SO IF YOU WANTED TO BE PICKED UP AT EIGHT, YOU'LL BE PICKED UP ANYWHERE BETWEEN 7 45 AND EIGHT 15.

BUT THEY WORK WITH YOU TO MAKE SURE THEY CAN GET YOU TO YOUR APPOINTMENTS AND ON TIME.

NOW, THIS FAIR DOES VARY FROM 3 25 PLUS MILEAGE.

SO THE FARTHER YOU GO, THE MORE IT'S GONNA COST YOU.

BUT AGAIN, IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE CARTS, THEY'LL MAKE SURE THAT THEY GET YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO AS EFFICIENTLY AND AS COST EFFECTIVE AS POSSIBLE.

SO ON THE OTHER SIDE, THE URBAN SERVICE, WHICH IS CURRENTLY OUR THREE FIXED ROUTES, THESE FIXED ROUTES, UM, OPERATE ON A DESIGNATED TIME POINT.

UM, THEY HAVE DESIGNATED STOPS.

UM, THE DOWNFALL IS IS THAT IT NORMALLY TAKES, UM, OVER AN HOUR TO RIDE THE LOOP TO GO FROM IF YOU WANT TO START AT

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ONE LOCATION AND YOU WANNA RIDE IT ALL THE WAY FROM START TO THE END, IT TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR.

AND AS YOU CAN IMAGINE, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT THE MOST EFFICIENT THING IF YOU'RE TRYING TO GET FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

UM, SO THE, THE GOOD NEWS IS, IS THAT THIS FAIR ONLY DOES COST YOU A DOLLAR.

SO IF YOU'RE WILLING TO WAIT A LITTLE BIT, IT IS, AND IT WILL GET YOU FROM POINT A TO POINT B.

IT JILL SET SOME LIMITED TIME.

WE NORMALLY OPERATE, UM, I ALWAYS LIKE TO SAY SIX TO SIX, BUT ABOUT 6 45 TO SIX 15 MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY.

SO ONE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HEARD IN TALKING ABOUT PARTS IS THAT THERE'S SOME CHALLENGES WITH THAT IS, LIKE I SAID, YOU HAVE A LONG HEADWAY TIME WHERE YOU'RE WAITING FOR THE BUS YOU COULD BE WAITING AT FOR A BUS TO COME BACK TO PICK YOU UP 20, 30 MINUTES.

UM, IT'S LIMITED TO ITS EXISTING ROUTE.

SO WE'VE HEARD THAT THE STOPS ARE NOT ALWAYS CONDUCIVE TO WHERE PEOPLE WANT TO GO.

UM, WE ALSO WANT, THERE'S A, A, A NEED TO SERVE A GREATER SERVICE AREA.

PEOPLE WANNA TRAVEL OUTSIDE OF THAT FIXED ROUTE SYSTEM.

AND, BUT RIGHT NOW IT, WE DON'T HAVE A SYSTEM THAT ALLOWS THAT.

SO THERE'S SOME WISHES FOR SOME FLEXIBILITY TO MEET THOSE NEEDS OF THOSE RIDERS.

SO THAT'S WHERE MICRO TRANSIT COMES IN.

SO MICRO TRANSIT, UM, WE DID A FEASIBILITY STUDY WITH THE MPO AND WE LOOKED AT HOW DO WE ACCOMPLISH THOSE ITEMS THAT WE WERE CHALLENGED WITH.

HOW DO WE IMPROVE EFFICIENCY IN THE RIDER EXPERIENCE WHILE ALSO EXPANDING ACCESS TO JOBS, HEALTHCARE, SHOPPING, AND COMMUNITY DESTINATIONS.

WE WANNA BUILD A RESILIENT TRANSPORTATION NETWORK THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR GREATER MOBILITY FOR THE GREATER NEWBURGH AREA.

SO WITH THAT MICRO TRANSIT IS THE CONVENIENT ON DEMAND SHARED TRANSIT OPTION.

SO IT OPERATES SIMILAR TO LYFT AND UBER, BUT ON A SHARED RIDE PLATFORM.

SO I THINK MOST OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH HOW, UM, THOSE LYFT AND UBER OPERATE WHERE YOU HAVE YOU, YOU DOWNLOAD AN APP, YOU GET ON THE APP AND YOU SAID, I WANT, I'M AT THIS LOCATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THIS DESTINATION AND I WOULD LIKE TO BE PICKED UP AROUND THIS TIME.

AND THE APP TELLS YOU WHEN SOMEONE'S GONNA BE THERE TO PICK YOU UP.

IT'S THE SAME CONCEPT, BUT ON A SHARED RIDE PLATFORM USING ONE OF THE CARTS BUSES.

AND SO THIS ALLOWS US TO EXPAND GREATER THAN THAT FIXED ROUTE SYSTEM.

AND WE'RE LOOKING AT THE MATH THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE YOU, IT'S ABOUT A 21 MILE SQUARE, SQUARE MILE ZONE.

AND THIS WOULD BE BASED ON DEMAND.

SO IF SOMEONE WOULD LIKE TO GO SOMEWHERE, THEY, THE, THE, UM, COMPUTER WOULD OPTIMIZE THE EFFICIENCIES OF THOSE TRIPS.

SO THAT RESULTS IN SHORTER WAIT TIMES.

UM, NOW THE DOWNFALL IS, IT IS ON A FIRST COME FIRST SERVE BASIS.

SO WHILE ON THE DEMAND WE WERE ABLE TO GET YOU A RIDE WITH PICK UP WITHIN 30 MINUTES, THE GOAL IS TO GET YOU PICKED UP WITHIN 30 MINUTES.

BUT THAT MIGHT NOT HAPPEN UNDER MICRO TRANSIT.

BUT WE ARE MEETING THAT GREATER FLEXIBILITY AND DEMAND.

SO WE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THIS A LITTLE BIT, THAT YOU WOULD BOOK THE RIDE THROUGH THE APP, IT'LL PICK YOU UP NEAR YOUR LOCATION.

YOU MIGHT HAVE TO WALK A LITTLE BIT TO GET TO YOUR FINAL DESTINATION.

AND WE'RE STILL KIND OF WORKING OUT THE DETAILS ON EXACTLY WHAT THIS IS GONNA LOOK LIKE.

WE'RE JUST DOING AN EVALUATION RIGHT NOW.

HERE'S A SHORT VIDEO OF KIND OF EXPLAINING MY CONCEPT, THE CONCEPT A LITTLE BIT MORE.

WHAT IS MICRO TRANSIT? MICRO TRANSIT IS DRIVEN BY TECHNOLOGY.

SO THE, YOU WALK INTO A BUS STOP AND TRANSFER TO ANOTHER ROUTE TO GET YOU TO YOUR DESTINATION.

WHEN YOU'RE READY TO RUN, YOU'LL BE ABLE TO USE YOUR SMARTPHONE TO REQUEST A RIDE.

OR WHEN YOU'RE MORE COMFORTABLE CALLING THE OFFICE, YOU CAN DO THAT TOO AFTER YOU SIMPLY GO SUCH STOP OR TO CALL VIRTUAL STOP WHEN THE BUS ARRIVES.

OTHER RIDERS MAY PICKED UP TO, DON'T WORRY, WE'LL GET YOU TO WHERE YOU NEED TO GO.

PROMISED IF YOU'RE TRAVELING ACROSS TOWN OR TO A LOCATION BUS, GET YOU READY TO GO BACK.

REQUEST A RIDE THE SAME WAY YOU DID ON THE WAY OUT TO GET YOU HOME.

USING THIS TECHNOLOGY WILL HELP YOU REACH YOUR DESTINATION FASTER.

ARE YOU READY TO TRY MICRO TODAY? SO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS WE NEED HELP.

WE NEED HELP IN GETTING THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS, UM, POSSIBLE NEW TRANSIT OPTION.

SO WE HAVE REACHED OUT TO COMMUNITY PARTNERS SUCH AS YOU AND ASKING FOR TIME JUST TO SHARE THE MESSAGE AND ASKING FOR YOUR HELP AND SHARING THAT MESSAGE FOR US.

WE HAVE, UM, FLYER AND SOCIAL MEDIA, BUT WE ARE LOOKING FOR ALL OPPORTUNITIES BECAUSE WE REALLY WANT TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK FROM NOT ONLY THE CURRENT WRITERS, BUT POTENTIALLY SOME NEW RIDER.

SO WE'RE ALSO, THERE'S SOME QUESTIONS OF UNKNOWNS.

WE ARE NOT QUITE SURE EXACTLY WHAT THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS ARE GOING TO BE.

WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT.

BUT AT A MINIMUM IT

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BUT WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE OF THE OPTIONS OF HAVING LATER SERVICE AND POSSIBLY SATURDAY SERVICE.

UM, WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IT'S GONNA COST YET.

AGAIN, THAT'S, WE'RE STILL EVALUATING THE, THE OVERALL COST EFFICIENCIES OF THE SYSTEM.

BUT ANY OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU HAVE THAT, UM, FOR US TO EITHER ENGAGE WITH, WITH YOUR COMMUNITY STAKEHOLDERS, YOUR EMPLOYERS, EMPLOYEES, WE WOULD VALUE THAT AND, AND WOULD REALLY LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE SHARING THAT MESSAGE.

SO THIS IS WHERE YOU COME IN TO HELP US OUT.

WE WANT YOU TO SHARE YOUR VOICE.

WE HAVE A, A QR CODE AND, AND SOME HANDS OUT FOR YOU TO ACTUALLY TAKE THE SURVEY, JOIN MEETINGS, LET US KNOW WHAT YOUR, YOUR TRANSPORTATION NEEDS.

IT MIGHT NOT BE YOUR NEEDS, BUT IT MIGHT BE A NEIGHBOR OR A FAMILY MEMBER.

HELP US SPREAD THE WORD THAT THIS IS ONLY GONNA BE SUCCESSFUL IF WE CONTINUE GETTING THE WORD OUT OF WHAT IT COULD BE.

UM, AND WE'RE HOPING THAT TO GATHER ALL OF OUR INFORMATION AND TO PRESENT IT TO THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DURING THEIR OCTOBER WORK SESSION.

UM, IF YOU HAVEN'T TRIED THE SERVICE, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO ACTUALLY JUST TAKE A RIDE.

I THINK YOU HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE CHALLENGES THAT THE, THE CURRENT FIXED DROP SYSTEM HAS.

UM, AND THEN YOU CAN ALSO STAY INFORMED ON THE PROCESS OF WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS EVALUATION BY FOLLOWING, UM, THE CRAVEN COUNTY SOCIAL MEDIA CHANNELS.

SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN THE PUBLIC OUTREACH AREA NOW, AND WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE END OF AUGUST AND OCTOBER.

WE'RE GONNA BRIEF THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS.

UM, AND THEN IF THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS ARE IN AGREEMENT WITH WHAT WE'VE PRESENTED, THEN THERE'S A POSSIBLE LAUNCH DATE AS SOON AS, UM, THE FIRST PART OF NEXT YEAR.

SO THIS ISN'T, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'VE BEEN SPENT, WE'VE SPENT THE LAST THREE MONTHS ON AND WE'RE THE NEXT THREE MONTHS LOOKING FORWARD AND CONTINUING TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE.

UM, AND SO HERE'S JUST A PHONE NUMBER AND AN EMAIL ADDRESS IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN SHARING YOUR INFORMATION.

AND WE'VE GOT SOME FLYERS THAT WE CAN PASS OUT AFTER THE MEETING AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM.

THANK YOU FOR PRESENTING THIS.

'CAUSE THIS IS, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A LOT OF, UM, UM, WE WORK IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COULD USE THIS TRANSPORTATION MODE AND WE HAVE A LOT OF ACCESS TO MEETINGS AND IN, UM, PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT.

SO YES, GO AHEAD.

UH, YEAH, MY QUESTION IS, IS SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS ALREADY IN WORKS IN OTHER CITIES? YES, GREAT QUESTION.

SO MICRO TRANSIT IS NOT A NEW IDEA, ALTHOUGH IT'S A NEW IDEA FROM NEW BERN.

UM, ACTUALLY THE CITY OF WILSON WAS THE FIRST ONE, UM, TO DO A, A STUDY, PILOT STUDY, I THINK IT WAS ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO.

AND THEY'VE HAD HUGE SUCCESS.

UM, AND FROM THAT, UM, THEY, UM, YOU'VE GOT THE CITY OF WILMINGTON AND THERE'S A HANDFUL OF OTHERS WE HEARD TODAY THERE WAS ACTUALLY A NEW SYSTEM THAT JUST LAUNCHED ANOTHER, ANOTHER MICRO TRANSIT OPTION.

SO, I MEAN, THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS WHILE WE'RE ONLY SHOWING YOU THAT, THAT INITIAL 21 SQUARE MILE AREA OR ZONE THAT HAS THE POTENTIAL FOR US TO EXPAND IT INTO LARGER, LARGER AREAS DEPENDING ON THE NEED.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME.

WOULD THIS REPLACE THE FIXED ROUTE SYSTEM OR BE IN ADDITION TO IT? UM, THIS WOULD REPLACE IT.

SO THE FIXED ROUTE SYSTEM, WHAT WOULD THE, WHAT WE'VE HEARD IS THAT THERE'S EMPTY BUSES THAT DRIVE AROUND IN A CIRCLE AND THAT'S, THEY'RE NOT ALL ALWAYS EMPTY.

UM, BUT RATHER THAN DRIVING IN A CIRCLE, WHY DON'T WE GET OFF THAT CIRCLE AND GO WHERE THE PEOPLE NEED IT AND GET TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO.

UM, AND, AND HOPEFULLY HAVE SOMEWHAT THE SAME OPERATING COST.

THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE OPPORTUNITY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONERS CHERYL? NO.

THE NEXT ITEM UNDER NEW BUSINESS IS TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION.

THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

ALRIGHT,

[6.b. Consider a Resolution to accept a bid to purchase 1037 Main Street.]

A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT A BID TO PURCHASE, UH, 10 37 MAIN STREET.

AND THIS ONE, AS YOU REMEMBER, WE, UM, HAD A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID AND THE BIDDING PERIOD HAS BEEN CLOSED WITHOUT A COMPETING BID.

AND THIS WAS MR. CHESTER, UH, FREEMAN, WHO DID A PRESENTATION FOR US.

UM, SO HE IS STILL THE HIGHEST BIDDER, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

SO I THINK WE WERE ALL IN AGREEMENT THAT, UM, TO PUT THAT, UM, PROPERTY UP AT END START THE BID PROCESS.

NOW THE BID PROCESS IS COMPLETE, SO WE WANT TO HAVE A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT, UM, MR. FREEMAN'S BID.

MADAM CHAIR, IF I MAY, UM, JUST TO KIND OF SHARE WITH MY COMMISSIONERS AND GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF HISTORY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.

UM, THIS IS ON MAIN STREET, WHICH USED TO BE THE ACTUAL ENTRY INTO WHAT USED TO BE A COMMERCIAL HUB FOR THE COMMUNITY, UH, BACK IN THE SIXTIES AND THE SEVENTIES.

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AND THERE USED TO BE A FISH MARKET THAT WAS ON THIS CORNER AND ACROSS THE STREET WAS A STORE AND A MEAT MARKET THAT WAS OWNED BY GOVERNOR RHODES.

UH, AND THERE'S A PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET THAT IS JUST BEEN PURCHASED AND THEY'RE REHABBING THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY.

SO THERE'S SOME GOOD ACTIVITY GOING ON IN THAT AREA.

UH, I USED TO LIVE LESS THAN A BLOCK AND A HALF FROM THE PROPERTY.

I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT THE CITY WAS NOT MAINTAINING IT AND KEEPING IT UP.

AND IT WAS OFTEN THAT I WOULD SEE MR. FREEMAN OUT CUTTING THAT PARTICULAR PARCEL, EVEN THOUGH IT DIDN'T BELONG TO HIM.

IT WAS ADJACENT TO HIS CURRENT PROPERTY AND HE'S WHAT WE CALL A FRIEND OF THE COMMUNITY.

UH, WE COULD ALWAYS COUNT ON HIM AND HE ALWAYS KEPT HIS RESIDENCE CLEAN, NEAT AND MANICURED.

UH, SO I JUST KIND OF WANTED TO SHARE WITH MY COMMISSIONERS AND JUST GIVE THEM A LITTLE BIT OF BRIEF HISTORY ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.

OKAY? THANK YOU FOR THAT.

AND I, I THINK WE WERE ALL, UM, IMPRESSED WHEN WE FIRST HEARD OF HIS, UM, PLANS TO PURCHASE IT.

THAT HE HAD BEEN MAINTAINING IT FOR QUITE A WHILE.

YES.

ANY, CAN I GET A RESO, UH, A RESOLUTION, A MOTION TO UM, ACCEPT, UH, TO HAVE A RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THIS BID? I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO IT.

AND THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE INFORMATION YOU GAVE US.

IS THERE ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE HEAD SHAKING? NO.

UM, CAN WE HAVE A, DO WE NEED A ROLL CALL VOTE OR JUST A WE CAN DO A VOICE VOTE.

MADAM CHAIR VOICE VOTE.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, ALL IN FAVOR TO ACCEPT, UH, TO, UM, HAVE THE RESOLUTION TO ACCEPT THE BID TO PURCHASE 10 37 MAIN STREET.

SAY AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? OKAY, THE MOTION CARRIES AND WE WILL, UM, HAVE A RESOLUTION FOR THAT TO BE PURCHASED BY MR. FRIEDA FREEMAN.

IN OLD BUSINESS, WE ARE CONSIDERING A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS FOR 8 21 WEST STREET.

COMMISSIONERS.

[7.a. Consider a resolution to initiate the upset bid process for 821 West Street]

AND IF YOU REMEMBER, THIS PROPERTY CAME BEFORE US GETTING LOST IN MY OWN, UM, THANKS HERE.

AND WE ASKED TO SEE SOME PLANS THAT, UH, UM, WHAT THE PERSON WHO WAS REQUESTING THE UPSET BID PROCESS WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THERE.

AND I BELIEVE THOSE ARE IN OUR PACKET TONIGHT.

I'M SORRY, I AM STRUGGLING TO GET THROUGH THIS.

I SHOULD HAVE NEVER LOOKED IT IN THE CORNER.

UM, BUT IN YOUR PACKET, I BELIEVE YOU HAVE SEEN THAT IT'S THE PLAN FOR, UH, CONCEPTUAL FLOOR PLAN FOR A 1600 SQUARE FOOT HOME.

IT HAD A LOT OF DETAILS ABOUT THE, THE THREE BEDROOMS, AND THEN THERE WAS EVEN A LOVELY, UM, RENDERING OF WHAT WAS ANTICIPATED FOR THE RESIDENCE TO LOOK LIKE.

DOES, HAS ANYONE, EVERYONE HAD A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT? ANY COMMENTS? WHAT ARE THE, UH, SPECS, THE SPECIFICATIONS OF A SIZE OF THAT PARTICULAR LOT? I'M NOT SURE IF I, YOU WANT THE, I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT THE SQUARE FOOTAGE ON THE LOT.

UH, I WAS ON THE LOT THIS MORNING AND IT'S QUITE OVERGROWN AND HADN'T BEEN MAINTAINED OR KEPT UP, BUT I WAS JUST CURIOUS.

IT DIDN'T LOOK TO BE A VERY LARGE LOT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT SIZE, UH, DWELLING TO BE PUT ON THAT PARTICULAR, UH, PROPERTY.

MADAM CHAIR, ACCORDING TO THE GIS MAP, UM, IT'S ROUGHLY A 10TH OF AN ACRE AND THE DIMENSIONS ROUGHLY ARE 50 BY 1 0 2.

OH, OKAY.

SO THE FLOOR PLAN, IF IT'S 50 BY 1 0 2 AND THE FLOOR PLAN THAT WE HAVE IS 40 FEET BY 40 FEET, IT SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD FIT IN THERE WITHIN OUR, UM, SETBACK REQUIREMENTS AND ACTUALLY HAS A LOT, YOU KNOW, HAVE A NICE LOOK OF A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE THERE.

IF YOU SAY THAT LOT IS OVERGROWN, IT SEEMS LIKE A

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DEFINITE IMPROVEMENT.

YES.

WELL, THERE IS SIDEWALK AND THERE IS CURB AND GUTTERING ON THAT PARTICULAR, UM, SECTION OF WEST STREET AND, AND MADAM CHAIR, THOSE DIMENSIONS ARE APPROXIMATE.

UM, OBVIOUSLY THE GI IS MAP IS NOT A SURVEY, SO, UM, THAT'S APPROXIMATELY THE DIMENSIONS THAT WE HAD ON BOARD AND I I WANTED ALL THE COMMISSIONERS TO UNDERSTAND IT.

IT'S A RENDERING AND A PLAN AND THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED FOR IS HOW WOULD THIS, UM, PROPERTY BE USED, RIGHT? AND THE PERSON WHO WANTED TO INITIATE THE DID PROCESS HAD NOT PRESENTED THAT.

AND NOW I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE A GOOD UNDERSTANDING THAT IT WOULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE.

AND THE, THE PERSON WHO'S ASKING US TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID, I BELIEVE WOULD CONSIDER IS CONSIDERED, UM, OWNER OCCUPY IN LIVING THERE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE RESTRICTIONS, UH, ON, ON THE PROPERTY ACCORDING TO THE RESOLUTION.

THEN WE HAVE THAT IN THE RESOLUTION THAT IT'D BE OWNER OCCUPIED.

THAT'S CORRECT.

ACTUALLY, THERE'S A WHOLE SERIES OF COVENANTS APPLIED TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY, UH, AND YOU DID PROCESS AND WOULD YOU SEE THAT? AND THAT'S EXHIBIT A AS PART OF THE RESOLUTION.

THERE ARE QUITE A BIT, QUITE A FEW.

I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS FOR 8 21 WEST STREET.

I SECOND.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO SIT TO MAKE A RESOLUTION TO, UM, INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS.

UM, CAN I DO, UH, DO I NEED A VOTE? NEED TO CALL FOR ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION FROM COMMISSIONERS? NOW THIS IS THE FINAL UPSET BID.

AM I CORRECT? IT INITIATES THE UPSET BID PROCESS.

SO IT'S NOT THE FINAL BID, BUT IT STARTS THAT PROCESS.

AND WHAT WAS IT PRICE AGAIN? WHAT WAS IT? BID AGAIN? UM, IT IS $6,375 $375, WHICH IS OUR STANDARD, UM, 75 FORMULA OF 75% OF THE TAX VALUE.

MADAM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION AND IT'S A GENERAL QUESTION.

WHEN WE HAVE A CONTRACT TO CONVEY LAND, UH, TO AN INDIVIDUAL THAT IS PURCHASING, UM, IF AND WHEN THE TIME OF DEATH COMES, DOES THE COVENANT, UH, CAN IT BE MOVED FORWARD IN TERMS OF PASSED ON TO THE NEXT OF KEN OR WHOEVER'S GONNA BE TAKING OVER THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY? CAN WE INTEREST, DOES THE COVENANT STAY WITH THE PROPERTY? PRETTY MUCH.

DOES THE COVENANT FOLLOW THE PROPERTY OR FOLLOW THE I SEE OUR ATTORNEYS HAVE NOT, YES, THE COVENANTS RUN WITH THE LAND.

SO THE COVENANTS THAT WOULD ULTIMATELY BE ATTACHED TO THIS PROPERTY WOULD CONTINUE REGARDLESS OF OWNERSHIP.

I THINK ONE, UM, ONE COVENANT THAT MIGHT BE THE HEART OF MR. MORGAN'S QUESTION IS THE REQUIREMENT THAT THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DWELLING BE OWNER OCCUPIED.

IF AN OWNER PASSES AWAY, WHOEVER INHERITS THE PROPERTY, UM, IF IT'S ONE OR MORE PEOPLE, THEY, ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS WOULD NEED TO OCCUPY THE STRUCTURE.

IF CIRCUMSTANCES CHANGE AND THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE RELEASED FROM THAT COVENANT, THEY COULD COME BACK TO YOU ALL, UM, OR YOUR SUCCESSOR INTEREST AND MAKE THAT REQUEST.

OKAY, THANK YOU YOUR HONOR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NOW CAN WE HAVE A VOTE? YES.

UM, CAN WE JUST DO A MAJORITY VOTE? UH, YOU CAN DO A VOICE VOTE.

MADAM CHAIR, A VOICE VOTE.

VOICE VOTE.

YES.

UM, SO ALL IN FAVOR OF INITIATING THE SEAL BID PROCESS FOR UPSET BID 8 21 WEST STREET.

UPSET, BID UPSET BID.

READ THE WRONG ONE.

UPSET BID PROCESS FOR 8 21 WEST STREET.

ALL IN FAVOR OF THAT? SAY AYE.

THE NEXT ONE, WHICH I WAS READING AHEAD, IS TO CONSIDER A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE SEAL BID PROCESS FOR NINE 11 EUBANKS.

AND ALL OPPOSED SAY NO.

SO THE MOTION CARRIES AND, UM, WE'LL HAVE A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS FOR 8 21 WEST STREET.

[7.b. Consider a resolution to initiate the sealed bid process for 911 Eubanks Street]

AND I BELIEVE WE ARE AT THE PLACE, UM, WE HAVE PEOPLE INTERESTED AND QUALIFIED TO PROVIDE SEAL BIDS.

SO WE JUST WANT TO START THAT SEAL BID PROCESS ONCE AGAIN, THAT'S CORRECT

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FOR OF NINE 11 U BANKS.

AND I KNOW EVERYONE'S VERY FAMILIAR WITH THAT, SO I, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE WELCOME TO ASK A QUESTION, BUT OTHERWISE I'D SAY, CAN I GET A MOTION FOR THAT? SO MOVE SECOND MOTION AND A SECOND TO INITIATE THE SEAL BID PROCESS FOR NINE 11.

EUBANK, ANY OUTSTANDING QUESTIONS? NO MA'AM.

HEAD SHAKEN? NO.

UM, I'M GONNA DO A VOICE VOTE FOR THAT.

AND WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UM, HAVE A RESOLUTION TO INITIATE THE SEAL BID PROCESS FOR NINE 11 EUBANK STREET.

A AYE.

AND ALL OPPOSED? AND THAT MOTION CARRIES.

SO WE, UM, YES, WE ARE DIRECTING STAFF TO INITIATE THAT SEAL BID PROCESS.

IT SHALL BE DONE, MAN.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UM, NEXT UP IS THE WEST A STREET PROJECT UPDATE, AND IS THAT SOMETHING YOU HAVE PREPARED TO GIVE TO US? REALLY? WE'LL, WE'LL, WE'LL TIE THAT INTO THE STAFF REPORT.

[Items 7.c & 8]

HOW'S THAT? OKAY.

UM, SO THAT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD IDEA.

UH, AT LAST NIGHT'S, UH, BOARD OF BROOM MEETING, WE, UH, OUR RESOLUTION, UH, FOR THE STREET CLOSURE, UH, OF, UH, E STREET, UH, WENT BEFORE THE BOARD.

THE BOARD, UH, PASSED THAT.

AND SO WE CAN SEND THAT ONTO THE SURVEYOR AND WE SHOULD HAVE A RECOMBINED SURVEY SO THAT WE CAN, UH, LIST WEST A STREET ON OUR SELLABLE LOTS LIST AND BEGIN THE PROCESS TO MOVE THAT ALONG.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING WITH THE PROJECT TEAM, UH, IN THE COMING WEEKS.

SO THAT'S WEST, UH, WEST A STREET.

I DID WANNA LET THE COMMISSION KNOW ALSO THAT, UH, IT IS JULY, SO THE FISCAL YEAR HAS JUST OPENED.

AND SO ALL OF OUR POS ARE NEW, ALL OF OUR, UM, THIS IS A NEW YEAR, SO WE'LL HAVE TO DO ALL THE FUN THINGS, UH, LIKE LOOK AT OUR, OUR GRANT, UH, OUR, OUR GRANT WRITER, UH, CONTRACT AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, UH, IN THE COMING DAYS, UH, IN THE COMING MONTHS AS WELL.

AND WHAT THAT ALSO MEANS IS NEXT MONTH IS AUGUST, WHICH MEANS THIS COMMISSION WILL NEED TO NOMINATE AND ELECT, UH, A NEW CHAIR OR THE SAME CHAIR, BUT IT WILL BE A NEW CHAIR BECAUSE, UH, MS. WALKER'S, UH, TERM IS OVER.

UH, SO MS. UH, MRS. WALKER, SORRY.

UM, MADAM CHAIR, AS FAR AS I'M CONCERNED, UH, HER TERM IS OVER.

AND SO WE WILL NEED TO ELECT, UH, A NEW CHAIR.

AND SO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A NOMINATION FOR, UH, FOR COKE, FOR CHAIR OR CO-CHAIR, UH, PLEASE SEND THOSE NOMINATIONS TO ME SO THAT I CAN VET THEM AND WE CAN PRESENT THE BALLOT AT THE AUGUST MEETING.

UH, IT'S ALSO WORTH NOTING THAT IN ADDITION TO CHAIR WALKER ALSO, UH, MR. KIPP PARAGO WILL BE, UH, HIS LAST MEETING WILL BE AUGUST, NOT TONIGHT, SIR.

, UH, UH, HIS, HIS LAST MEETING WILL BE AUGUST.

AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN APPOINTING, UH, UH, TWO NEW COMMISSIONERS TO THE COMMISSION AS THESE, UH, AS THESE INDIVIDUALS HAVE SERVED VERY, VERY WELL FOR THE LAST SEVEN YEARS.

SO WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE, UH, IN ADVANCE, UH, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO OUR, UH, AUGUST MEETING.

UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I HAVE, UH, FOR THE STAFF, UH, REPORT TONIGHT IS AN UPDATE ON OUR TEXT AMENDMENT.

AND RATHER THAN ME BABBLING THROUGH THAT IN CONFUSING EVERYONE, I'M GOING TO ALLOW, UH, OUR ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY TO WALK US THROUGH A MINOR ADJUSTMENT IN THE TEXT AMENDMENT THAT WE SENT, UH, TO PLANNING AND ZONING A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO.

MADAM CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, GOOD EVENING.

UM, AS YOU RECALL, SEVERAL WEEKS, MONTHS AGO, YOU ALL, UM, CONSIDERED RECOMMENDING A CHANGE TO THE LAND USE ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OVERLAY.

SO SPECIFICALLY IN YOUR OVERLAY, THERE ARE REDUCED SETBACKS, LOT MINIMUM SIZES, UM, LOT WITH ET CETERA AS IT READS CURRENTLY IN THE R SIX ZONING DISTRICT.

AND WHAT YOU ALL RECOMMENDED TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD WAS, HEY, LET'S NOT LIMIT THOSE DIMENSIONAL REQUIREMENTS TO JUST R SIX.

LET'S EXPAND TO ANY RESIDENTIAL USES FOR ANY LOTS WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION BOUNDARY.

THINKING THAT ALLOWING REDUCED SETBACKS WOULD PROMOTE, UH, MORE DEVELOPMENT ESPECIALLY OF RESIDENTIAL USES AND PREPARING, UM, THE NOTICES AND, AND THINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED TO GO TO

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THE NEXT PHASES TO ENACT THAT LEGISLATION.

UM, STAFF WAS ABLE TO DETERMINE THAT THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL OVERLAYS THAT OVERLAY YOUR OVERLAY.

UM, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE ARE NO CONFLICTS OR INCONSISTENCIES WHEN PEOPLE TRY TO APPLY THE PROPOSAL THAT YOU ALL HAVE, UM, SENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

SO SPECIFICALLY, AND I'M GONNA TRY NOT TO MAKE THIS CONFUSING, THERE ARE THREE ADDITIONAL OVERLAYS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

YOU'VE GOT THE LAWSON CREEK CONSERVATION OVERLAY, THE BROAD QUEEN STREET CORRIDOR AND THE DRY OF HISTORIC OVERLAY.

AND EACH ONE OF THOSE OVERLAYS HAVE ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS AND DIMENSIONAL, UM, REQUIREMENTS, ET CETERA.

SO WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IF SOMEONE IS TRYING TO BUILD, UM, A BUILDING THAT'S GONNA BE A RESIDENTIAL USE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THEY KNOW WHICH RULES APPLY.

SO WHAT STAFF I THINK IS RECOMMENDING TO YOU TODAY IS A MINOR ADJUSTMENT TO THE LANGUAGE THAT YOU ALL SENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, IF YOU'RE IN A DOUBLE OVERLAY, THEN THE MOST RESTRICTIVE RULES APPLY.

SO IF YOU'RE IN THE LAWS CREEK OVERLAY, IF YOU'RE IN THE BROAD QUEEN STREET OVERLAY, IF YOU'RE IN THE DRIVER OVERLAY, THOSE RULES APPLY.

IF YOU'RE NOT AND YOU'RE JUST IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, THEN YOU CAN AVAIL YOURSELF OF THE REDUCED DIMENSIONAL SETBACKS FOR RESIDENTIAL USES.

THAT WAY ALL OUR RULES IN THE LAND USE ORDINANCES CAN BE READ IN CONCERT TOGETHER.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? YES, IT DOES.

UM, I THINK WHAT MR. HUFF IS GOING TO ASK YOU TO DO, IF, IF THAT IS THE AGREEMENT CONSENSUS OF THE BOARD, UM, TO, TO VOTE TO ALLOW MR. HUFF TO BRING THAT MINOR AMENDMENT TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, THAT WAY EVERYBODY IN THE PROCESS KNOWS WHAT THE INTENTIONS ARE AND THAT FINAL LANGUAGE CAN BE PRESENTED TO THE BOARD OF ALL.

YES, SIR.

MR. STRICKLAND, REAL QUICK, HOW OFTEN ARE THOSE, I GUESS, OLDER OVERLAYS, RECONSIDERED, OR REEXAMINED AS A PART OF THE PROCESS? BECAUSE WHAT MAY BE OF, OF WHAT MAY HAVE MADE SENSE 50 YEARS AGO MIGHT NOT NOW.

VERY GOOD QUESTION.

I KNOW THAT THERE'S LOTS OF, UM, CONSIDERATION NOW 'CAUSE WE ARE PREPARING FOR A COMPREHENSIVE UPDATE TO THE LAND USE ORDINANCES.

UM, SO THAT'S MY MOST IMMEDIATE ANSWER THE LAST TIME ANYONE HAS TAKEN A HARD LOOK AT THEM BEFORE THAT I, I CAN'T SAY.

I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE'RE, IF WE'RE TRYING TO DO, WE'RE TRYING TO FIT A SQUARE PEG INTO A ROUND HOLE NOW JUST, JUST FOR THE SAKE OF MAKING IT EASIER, WHENEVER OUR OVERLAYS MAKE MORE SENSE THAN THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.

I, I WILL TELL YOU THAT THERE HAVE, I THINK THE DRIVER ASSOCIATION CONTINUES TO MEET IN THIS VERY ACTIVE GROUP.

UM, AND, AND WHEN THESE REGULATIONS WERE INITIALLY PROMULGATED, THEY WERE, UM, VERY SIGNIFICANT VOICES IN MAKING SURE THAT THAT OVERLAY AND THOSE STANDARDS WERE ENACTED.

AND I HAVEN'T HEARD ANYTHING FROM THAT ASSOCIATION THEREAFTER TO SUGGEST THAT, UM, THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE ANY CHANGES.

GOOD QUESTION.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SO ARE WE DIRECTING STAFF? DO WE NEED TO VOTE ON THAT OR JUST YOU CAN DIRECT MR. HUFF TO BRING AMENDED LANGUAGE TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD, UM, TO RESOLVE ANY PERCEIVED INCONSISTENCIES BETWEEN THE OTHER, OTHER OVERLAYS AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OVERLAY.

AND IT DID NOT SOUND LIKE IT CHANGED THE, UM, THE, THE MEANING OF WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO.

IT JUST ACKNOWLEDGES THE EXISTING OVERLAYS, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.

SO NODDING HEADS, GIVE EVERYBODY AGREEMENT.

IT GIVES ME GUIDANCE AS LONG AS THE MAJORITY HEADS ARE NODDING.

OKAY, VERY GOOD.

I'LL TAKE THAT TO PLANNING AND ZONING.

THANK YOU GUYS.

WE HAVE OUR CLOSED SESSION.

EXCELLENT.

DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR STAFF REPORT? THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORT.

UNLESS THERE ARE QUESTIONS, I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE NOTE.

UH, THE, AN ANNOUNCEMENT THAT THE AMER RED CROSS DOING A BLOOD DRIVE, UH, AT THE STANLEY WHITE RECREATION CENTER ON JULY 17TH, UH, IT'LL RUN ALL DAY LONG.

SO IF YOU CAN, UH, SHOW UP TO THAT, CONTRIBUTE TO THAT, IT'S A REALLY, UH, IT'S A REALLY, IT'S ONE OF THE CITY'S, UH, BIGGEST, UH, DRIVES OF THE YEAR.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO SEE SOME REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONERS SHOW UP AND REDEVELOPMENT SWAG AND UH, SHOW THE CITY THAT, UH, WE, WE, WE EXIST AND WE SHOW UP.

SO I PASSED.

OH, YOU PASSED.

KINDA HOT TO WEAR OUR JACKET.

CAN WE TIE IT AROUND OUR WAIST? YEAH, YOU CAN TIE, I FORGOT THAT ALL.

WE GOT CO-CHAIR, ALL WE GOT THEM WAS JACKETS.

WE HAVE TO GET THEM SOME SUMMERTIME.

I TOTALLY AGREE.

THAT CONCLUDES MY STAFF REPORTING.

ALRIGHT, WELL I BELIEVE

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WE HAVE NO BUSINESS TO TAKE US INTO CLOSED SESSION TONIGHT.

NO, MA'AM.

SO OUR NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS A MOTION TO ADJOURN.

SO MOVED.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

AND I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY DISCUSSION.

ALL OPPOSED.