Oct 16, 2025 Planning & Zoning

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UM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE, UH, RISE AND JOIN US FOR TO PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE.

PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

THANK YOU.

NOW WE DO THIS ONCE A MONTH.

SO, UM, KENDRA, CAN I GET A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? YES, SIR.

MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'LL START WITH, UH, BOARD MEMBER MICHAEL DUFFY HERE.

BOARD MEMBER DANIEL PEOPLES.

JUST LET THE RECORD SHOW SHE'S ABSENT.

BOARD MEMBER KIPP PARAGO.

HERE.

CHAIRMAN BRAD JEFFERSON HERE.

AND BOARD MEMBER KELLY KAISER.

HERE.

BOARD MEMBER THOMAS BRUNO HERE.

AND BOARD MEMBER MARSHALL BACK.

YEAH.

RIGHT.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN? WE DO HAVE FOUR.

ALRIGHT, AWESOME.

[IV. APPROVE AGENDA ]

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

UM,

[V. CHAIRMAN’S REMARKS ]

UM, I LIVE IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN, UM, MORNING OF TRAIL.

AND, UH, I'VE LIVED HERE 10 YEARS AND I'VE TAKEN AN INTEREST IN THESE MATTERS FROM THE BEGINNING, SO, YOU KNOW, SO, UM, I BELIEVE THE NEW, UH, PLANNING AND ZONING STAFF IS MUCH BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAD BEFORE AND SO THEREFORE, YOU KNOW, SO I DECIDED TO RE SO THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? NO.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY, GOOD.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU MR. DUFFY.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING THE BOARD.

UH, WE STILL HAVE ONE SEAT AVAILABLE IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO, UH, JOIN US AS WELL.

UM,

[VI.A. 1506 S. Glenburnie Road - Rezoning ]

WITH THAT I WILL MOVE ON TO OUR ACTION ITEMS. WE'LL START WITH, UH, SIX A 1506 SOUTH GLEN BURNIE ROAD REZONING.

UM, KENDRA, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT FOR US? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND GOOD EVENING TO THE BOARD.

AND MR. CHAIRMAN, WE'RE GONNA START WITH OUR FIRST ITEM HERE.

THIS IS, UH, FOR 1506 SOUTH GLEN BURN ROAD.

AND THIS IS THE REZONING, THE REQUEST SUMMARY HERE.

THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER IS NEW VISION MINISTRIES INC.

AND THE LOCATION, AGAIN, IS 1506 SOUTH VERNE ROAD, NEW BERN, NORTH CAROLINA.

CURRENT ZONING IS R DASH SIX OR RESIDENTIAL SIX.

UM, THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS TO GO FROM R DASH SIX TO COMMERCIAL THREE OR C DASH THREE AND THE PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER FOR THE PROPERTY, IT'S A DASH 2 4 0 DASH THREE ZERO.

UM, THE SIZE APPROXIMATION IS 2.53 ACRES AND THE RESIDENTIAL SIX OR R DASH SIX ZONING DISTRICT ANALYSIS, UM, TO TRY TO GIVE A SHORT GIST OF IT, JUST PROMOTES FOUR SINGLE TWO AND MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS.

UM, THE MINIMUM LOT SIZE BEING 6,000 SQUARE FEET.

UM, AND THEN IT'S TO ENCOURAGE, UH, THE CONTINUED USE FOR LAND, UH, EXCUSE ME, USE OF LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES AND TO PROHIBIT COMMERCIAL ACTIVITY.

AND THEN TO ALSO ENCOURAGE THE DISCONTINUANCE OF EXISTING USES THAT WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED, UM, AS NEW USES IN THAT DISTRICT.

AND THEN FOLLOWING THIS FOR THE COMMERCIAL THREE OR C3 ZONING DISTRICT ANALYSIS ESSENTIALLY IS THE PROMOTION OF COMMERCIAL BUSINESS.

UM, THIS ALSO EXTENDS TO BEING NORMALLY HIGH VOLUME TRAFFIC ARTERIES, UH, WHERE BUSINESSES ARE LOCATED, AT LEAST FOR THESE TYPES OF ROADS AND THIS TYPE OF, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.

AND HERE YOU HAVE A USES COMPARISON CHART AND TO THE LEFT YOU HAVE R DASH SIX AND TO THE RIGHT YOU HAVE, UH, C DASH THREE.

SO YOU'RE WELCOME TO JUST TAKE A BRIEF MOMENT TO KIND OF CHECK OVER THAT AND SEE THE COMPARISON AND USES.

AND WE'RE GONNA BEGIN WITH OUR FIRST MAP HERE.

THIS IS THE VICINITY MAP FOR THE PARCEL, AND IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED HERE JUST TO SHOWCASE THAT THIS IS FOLLOWED BY OUR BUFFER MAP AND THE BUFFER IS TAKEN FROM A HUNDRED FEET, UM, SURROUNDING THE PROPERTY.

AND SO THESE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE BUFFER RECEIVE THE MAIL NOTIFICATIONS, AND THAT'S FOLLOWED BY OUR AERIAL MAP JUST TO GIVE YOU A REFLECTION OF WHAT IS ON THE GROUND AND THE ZONING MAP, WHICH AGAIN REFLECTS THAT COLOR OF R DASH SIX.

AND, UM, ADJACENT, YOU'LL SEE A COUPLE OF THE OTHER DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE SURROUNDING IT.

THE RED REPRESENTS THE C DASH THREE AND THE ACTIONS NEEDED HERE ARE ESSENTIALLY THE

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BUT IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE UP THIS TIME.

MS. FORD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? KENDRICK, THE, UH, DRC MEETING REQUESTED A THE A TIA? UH, YES SIR.

SO IN REFERENCE TO THE TIA, IT HAS NO BEARINGS TO THIS PARTICULAR, UH, MEETING OR AT LEAST IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TYPE OF VALIDITY.

THE TIA FROM WHAT I UNDERSTOOD OR UNDERSTAND CAME FROM N-C-D-O-T.

I DID SPEAK WITH A GENTLEMAN THAT MADE THE RECOMMENDATION AND BASICALLY HIS EXPLANATION WAS HE HAD SOME CONTACT WITH ANOTHER ENGINEER OF SOME SORT, UM, REFERENCING A TIA.

BUT IT'S NOT TIED TO A SPECIFIC USE.

IT IS NOT IN ANY SHAPE OR FORM, UH, IN PARTICULAR TO THIS MEETING.

RIGHT.

IF IT WAS NECESSARY, BE SITE, SITE APPROVAL FOR WHATEVER GOES ON THERE, RIGHT? CORRECT.

YES SIR.

SO ANYTHING THAT HAPPENS AFTER THEREAFTER THE FACT, UM, ONCE THE ACTUAL ZONING DISTRICT, IF IT WERE TO CHANGE AND A USE WERE TO TAKE PLACE, IT STILL HAS TO FOLLOW PROTOCOL WITH A DRC UM, REVIEW.

ALL RIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR FUTURE? UM, YEAH, I HAVE ONE FOR, UM, THAT IS MAYBE MORE FOR THE ATTORNEY.

UM, BUT UM, HE'S NOT, YEAH, THIS IS JUST FOR KENDRICK.

OH, OKAY.

I JUST WONDERED, DOES THIS QUALIFY FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE SPOT ZONING? UM, SO IN RELATION TO SPOT ZONING, THAT'S TYPICALLY MORE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SURROUNDING OR ADJACENT? UM, IT'S KIND OF, I'M NOT GONNA SAY THAT THERE, IT'S SPECIFIC TO BEING, I GUESS I WOULD SAY IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT THIS IS SPOT ZONE, THIS, THIS WOULDN'T REALLY MEET THAT INTERPRETATION.

UH, LET ME HELP YOU OUT A LITTLE BIT.

SURE.

UH, THIS WOULDN'T BE CONSIDERED SPOT ZONING.

THERE IS C3 RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET.

RIGHT.

BUT IT IS A SINGLE LOT.

THAT WAS MY CONCERN.

RIGHT? BUT WE CONSIDER IT TO BE ADJACENT TO C3 BECAUSE WHAT OUR, OUR DEFINITION OF ADJACENT ALLOWS US TO LOOK ACROSS THE STREET AND YOU CAN SEE THERE'S PLENTY OF RED RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET THERE TO THE SOUTH.

YEAH.

SO THAT IN TURN KIND OF DOESN'T, UM, MAKE IT SPOT ZONING.

I'M SORRY, WHAT I'M SEEING ACROSS THE STREET THERE IS C FIVE.

C FIVE IS THE BLUE.

THAT'S THE REPRESENTATION.

THE BLUE.

OH, ACROSS THE STREET DIAGRAM.

C3 IS THE RED.

OKAY, I UNDERSTAND THAT.

C3 DIAGRAM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KEN? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU KEN.

YES.

UM, FOR CLARITY, SINCE WE HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE HERE TONIGHT, UM, ON EACH OF THESE ACTION ITEMS, THERE'S FOUR ON THE AGENDA.

WE'LL HAVE KENDRICK MAKE A QUICK BRIEF.

WE'LL THEN OPEN IT UP TO A PUBLIC COMMENT ON EACH ONE, AND THEN WE'LL DO THE, UM, APPLICANT'S REMARKS AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, BUT BEFORE WE OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT, JUST SINCE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE AND THERE MAY BE COMMENTS MADE, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER COMMENT SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD AND CITY STAFF AND BE RELEVANT TO THE ACTION ITEM BEING DISCUSSED.

UM, PLEASE NOTE THIS IS A COMMENT PERIOD, SO THE BOARD IS NOT TAKING OR RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS DURING THIS TIME.

OKAY.

UM, SO WITH THAT, IF THERE IS ANYONE IN THE AUDIENCE, I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE A COMMENT ON ACTION ITEM SIX A.

FEEL FREE TO COME UP.

STATE YOUR NAME.

WHAT? SIX A ITEMS? UH, THE 1506 SOUTH GLENBURN ROAD LY.

YOU TALKING ABOUT THAT? YES MA'AM.

YEAH, WE'LL DO IT FOR EACH ONE.

ALL RIGHT.

OKAY.

HERE.

AND THEN, UH, MOVE ON TO THE APPLICANT'S.

IF THEY'RE HERE, IT'S NOT REQUIRED, IT'S JUST IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO.

UH, GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD.

MY NAME IS ERIC REMINGTON.

I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF WARDEN SMITH.

MOST OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN ME BEFORE 'CAUSE I'VE BEEN AT THESE HEARINGS BEFORE.

I'M HERE REPRESENTING NEW VISION MINISTRIES, WHICH IS THE OWNER OF THIS PARCEL.

UH, WITH REGARD TO THIS REZONING APPLICATION, I DO HAVE SOME DOCUMENTS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAND UP TO THE BOARD AND THEN KENDRICK.

THANK YOU.

AND MR. CHAIR, JUST FOR PURPOSES OF THE RECORD, THE DOCUMENT OR PACKET OF DOCUMENTS IS BEING DISTRIBUTED BY MR. UM, REMINGTON APPEARS TO BE A SERIES OF MAPS THAT I THINK HE'S GOING TO OFFER SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION ABOUT.

THAT IS CORRECT.

THANK YOU, JAMIE.

THANK YOU JAMIE.

UM,

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UH, THEY ARE WITH NEW VISION MINISTRIES AND THEY'RE HERE IN CASE YOU ALL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE, FOR THE CHURCH.

OKAY.

UM, WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS PROPERTY TO BE REZONED FROM R SIX TO C3.

I DO WANT TO ADDRESS, UM, MR. DUFFY'S QUESTION ABOUT SPOT ZONING.

THIS IS NOT SPOT ZONING AND THE REASON IT ISN'T SPOT ZONING IS THAT SPOT ZONING JUST DOESN'T DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE TRACK.

THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT FACTORS THAT GO INTO IT, AND SOME OF WHAT THE STAFF WAS TELLING YOU, THE FACT THAT THERE IS C3 THAT IS RIGHT NEXT TO THIS PROPERTY IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS.

THERE'S ALSO COMMERCIAL AROUND IT, UH, THAT SURROUNDS IT.

SO IT IS NOT, IT'S NOT SUPPOSED SPOT ZONING.

UM, YOU ALL HAVE A COPY OF OUR APPLICATION.

UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE ARE FIVE QUESTIONS THAT AN APPLICANT IS SUPPOSED TO ANSWER.

UH, WE'VE DONE THAT IN THERE IN SOME DETAIL.

I'M NOT GONNA GO THROUGH THOSE BECAUSE YOU ALL HAVE THE APPLICATION AND THEN READ THAT.

UM, I DO WANT TO SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO ATTACHED SOME EXHIBITS, UH, TO THAT PACKET, SOME OF WHICH ARE SIMILAR TO WHAT KENDRICK JUST WENT OVER.

UM, WE HAVE A GIS MAP AND THE PROPERTY RECORD CARD THERE.

THIS PROPERTY WAS JUST RECENTLY SUBDIVIDED.

UM, IT HAS THE CHURCH ON IT, AND IT WAS A LARGE PARCEL, SIX, SIX ACRES TO BEGIN WITH.

UM, THE CHURCH, THE REASON THAT THEY'RE SUBDIVIDING IT IS BECAUSE THEY WANT TO BUILD A NEW FACILITY AND SO THEY'RE GONNA TRY AND SELL THIS PIECE.

UM, AND THEY'D LIKE TO HAVE IT REZONED SO THAT THEY CAN GET THE MAXIMUM AMOUNT OF MONEY FOR, FOR THAT PARCEL.

UM, I AM GONNA FOCUS ON QUESTION NUMBER FIVE, WHICH DEALS WITH THE LAND USE PLAN COMPATIBILITY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S THE, THE MORE IMPORTANT ONE.

UM, I'VE HANDED UP MAPS.

THOSE MAPS, UH, EXCEPT FOR THE LAST ONE.

THOSE MAPS ARE ALL OUT OF THE LAND USE PLAN.

AND WHAT I'VE DONE, IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE MAPS, THERE'S A LITTLE RED CIRCLE ON EACH OF THE MAPS AND THAT'S WHERE THIS, UH, PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

UM, AND WHAT I WOULD SAY TO YOU ALL IS THAT BASICALLY THIS PROPERTY IS STRATEGICALLY LOCATED ON GLEN BURNIE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS A, UH, MAJOR THOROUGHFARE FOR, UH, NEW BERN.

AND IT'S STRATEGICALLY LOCATED BETWEEN TWO OF THE FOCUS AREAS THAT THAT NEW BERN HAS DESIGNATED, WHICH IS THE HIGHWAY 17 CORRIDOR AREA ON MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD.

AND THE, UH, HIGHWAY 43 FOCUS AREA.

AS YOU ALL KNOW, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT OF HOUSING AREAS BACK ON ELIZABETH AVENUE, AND THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY IS, IS WELL SITUATED TO BE COMMERCIAL, UH, TO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR THAT, THAT THOSE RESIDENTS AND ALSO VISITORS THAT ARE COMING IN OFF OF HIGHWAY 70 AND THINGS.

UM, SOME OF THOSE, UH, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT SUPPORT THIS IN THE LAND USE PLAN ARE THAT IT MEETS THE OVERALL GOALS OF THE LAND USE PLAN AND THAT, UH, IT'S SUPPORTING USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH THE SURROUNDING AREA.

THERE ARE SIMILAR, THERE ARE USES THAT, THAT A MIX OF USES ALONG THE GLEN BURNIE CORRIDOR, UH, THAT RANGE FROM RETAIL TO COMMERCIAL TO OFFICE SPACE TO RESIDENTIAL.

UM, BUT THE, YOU WILL NOTE THAT THERE IS THIS COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR THERE, UH, AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ASKING IS TO HAVE IT, UH, INCREASED TO C3.

UM, TOURISM BRINGS A LOT OF, UH, REVENUE TO THE CITY AND, AND PEOPLE THAT ARE COMING THROUGH ON HIGHWAY 70 STOP AND UTILIZE THE BUSINESSES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

UM, THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, SUPPORTS COMMERCIAL ZONING.

UH, THE GLEN BURNIE ROAD CORRIDOR CONNECTS THE COMMERCIAL AREA BETWEEN HIGHWAY 70 AND ALSO NEW BOULEVARD.

AND SO YOU'VE GOT COMMERCIAL AREAS THERE.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST MAP THAT I PROVIDED, THOSE ARE, UH, LOCATION OF MAJOR EMPLOYERS WITHIN NEW VERN.

UH, THIS, THIS PARTICULAR SPOT IS, IS LOCATED NEAR CAROLINA EAST, NEAR MOWEN, NEAR BOSCH, SOME OF THE BIGGER MAJOR EMPLOYERS IN, IN THE COMMUNITY.

THE SECOND ONE IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP.

AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE THE, THE BLUE ON THAT MAP IS COMMERCIAL AREAS.

AND BASICALLY THE, AGAIN, THE RED CIRCLE, THE RIGHT NOW, THERE'S A BROWN STRIP THERE THAT'S IN THE CENTER OF THE RED CIRCLE.

THAT BROWN STRIP IS WHERE THE, THIS PARCEL IS LOCATED.

UM, OBVIOUSLY WHAT THIS WOULD DO IS IT WOULD EXTEND THE BLUE AREA JUST A LITTLE BIT INTO THAT, THAT BROWN AREA AND MAKE THAT COMMERCIAL ALSO.

UH, THE NEXT ONE IS ENVIRONMENTAL FEATURES.

UH, THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES WITH THIS PROPERTY.

THERE'S, UH, NOTHING LIKE, UH, FLOOD ZONES OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT, THAT, THAT WOULD AFFECT THE ZONING OF HIS PROPERTY.

UM, SAME WITH THE NEXT ONE AS NATURAL HAZARDS, NOTHING LIKE THAT, UH, SHOWS UP ON THE, ON THE PLAN.

IT IS ALREADY SERVICED BY UTILITIES.

UH, AND NO MATTER WHAT THE USE IS, UH, AFTER IT'S REZONED, UH, THE, YOU KNOW, AS, UH, MR.

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THEY'LL HAVE TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE ORDINANCE REQUIREMENTS AND ALL THE, UH, DIFFERENT PERMITTING PROCESSES THAT THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH NO MATTER WHAT THE USE IS.

UH, IT HAPPENS TO BE LOCATED ON ALL THREE OF THE CURRENT CART TRANSIT ROUTES, WHICH IS GOOD BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS PEOPLE TO, IF THEY DECIDE TO PUT ANOTHER STOP IN THAT AREA, THERE ALREADY IS ONE STOP ON THE, UH, BLUE ROUTE, UH, AT, UH, COMPLETE DENTAL, WHICH IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS LOT.

SO PEOPLE COULD ACCESS THIS LOT FAIRLY EASY, EVEN IF THEY DON'T HAVE TRANSPORTATION OF THEIR OWN.

UM, THE NEXT ONE IS LATE USE BY PROPERTY PARCEL.

AND UH, RIGHT NOW THIS PARCEL IS BEING USED FOR RELIGIOUS PURPOSES, SO THAT'S WHY IT'S, UH, SORT OF A GRAYISH COLOR THERE.

UH, BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO, YOU CAN SEE ALL THE BLUE AROUND IT.

AND AGAIN, THE BLUE IS COMMERCIAL AND WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS PARCEL TO BE COMMERCIAL ALSO.

UM, THE LAST COUPLE OF MAPS ARE THE FOCUS AREAS.

UM, INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH ON FIGURE 15, UH, YOU'LL NOTE THAT SOUTH GLEN BURNIE IS ACTUALLY MISLABELED AND, AND IT'S IN THE WRONG AREA THERE.

UM, BUT THE RED DOT AGAIN, SHOWS OR RED CIRCLE SHOWS WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED.

UM, WE WOULD, THE LAST MAP, WHAT I WANT TO SHOW YOU ON THE LAST MAP IS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP.

AND IT'S A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT VIEW THAN WHAT KENDRICK SHOWED.

AND IT SHOWS YOU THE, UM, THE AREAS THAT ARE COMMERCIAL, WHICH ARE THOSE, UH, BASICALLY THOSE CORAL COLORS AND ALSO THE PAINT COLORS, UH, THAT ARE, THAT ARE ON EITHER SIDE.

UM, THE R SIX WHERE THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED RIGHT NOW IS KIND OF, UH, ISOLATED.

UM, AND IT MAKES SENSE TO MAKE THIS PORTION OF THIS PARCEL, UH, INTO A C3 ZONING TO MATCH THAT, THAT'S TO THE SOUTH OF IT.

SO WE'RE ASKING THE, THE BOARD TO DO THAT.

UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS OR TO RECOMMEND THAT THAT BE DONE TO FIND THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.

AND, UH, WE'RE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS YOU'LL HAVE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

ALRIGHT.

ERIC, I QUESTION FOR YOU.

YES, SIR.

UM, THE REST OF THEIR PROPERTY, I GUESS LOT ONE IN THEIR, IN THEIR RECENT SUBDIVISION IS STILL GONNA STAY R SIX.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WHICH MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT THE CHURCH IS GOING TO USE THAT TO REBUILD.

OKAY.

WHICH THEY COULD DO WHEN A CA THREE OR R SIX OR ANYTHING ELSE BASICALLY.

UH, ACTUALLY IT'S, IT'S STRANGE BECAUSE IN C3 THEY WOULD HAVE TO, THEY'D HAVE TO HAVE LIKE A SPECIAL USE.

OKAY.

WHICH IS KIND OF ODD TO ME.

BUT, UM, BUT WITH THE R SIX ZONING, THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THE CHURCH NO MATTER.

OKAY.

ON THAT.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? IS THAT TRUE ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES? CHURCHES ARE THERE BY, RIGHT.

IS THAT, I'M SORRY, SAY THAT AGAIN.

MR. CHURCHES ARE BY RIGHT.

IN ALL RESIDENTIAL ZONES, IS THAT CORRECT? AS FAR AS I KNOW, YES SIR.

OKAY.

I HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ALL SPECIFICALLY AT ALL OF 'EM, BUT I DID LOOK AT THE, THE MOST OF, IF NOT, I GUESS IT'S A PREEXISTING USE.

CORRECT? CORRECT.

ALRIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU.

APPRECIATE IT.

UH, AND WITH THAT I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

WELL, I'LL, I'LL GO FIRST AND SOME OF YOUR, UM, I DO HAVE RESERVATIONS ABOUT SOME OF THE SPECIAL USES AVAILABLE, BUT I, I'M PREPARED TO LEAVE THAT TO THE BOARD OF ALL TO MAKE THAT DECISION WHEN THEY REVIEWED, SO.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE FROM ANYBODY ELSE? YEAH, I GUESS THE BIG THING WHEN I SAW THIS WAS THE TRAFFIC ISSUE, UH, THERE GOING INTO HJ MCDONALD'S SCHOOL, I MEAN, IT COULD BE A NIGHTMARE AT TIMES DURING THE DAY.

UM, AND ADDING A COMMERCIAL ZONE ON THAT CORNER, UM, WILL MAKE THAT WORSE.

BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT CORRIDOR SHOULD BE ALL COMMERCIAL ANYHOW.

UH, SO THAT'S, I MEAN, THAT KIND OF OVERRIDES THOSE ISSUES, BUT I, I KNOW THAT THOSE ISSUES NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, UH, WHEN AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME, UH, NOT, NOT HERE.

UM, UH, MR. PARAGO, UH, THAT'S AN INTERESTING POINT ABOUT THE TRAFFIC.

UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT THERE'S ANY PLANS THAT ARE SET IN STONE RIGHT NOW.

UH, BUT DOT HAS LOOKED AT THE INTERSECTIONS FROM HIGHWAY 70 OVER TO ELIZABETH AVENUE AND THEY HAVE SOME, IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY DID TRAFFIC COUNTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEY HAVE SOME PLANS FOR THAT.

SO THAT I, I BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS THERE, IF THIS PROPERTY IS REZONED, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE, THAT'S GONNA BE A PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS THAT THAT, UH, AREA'S GONNA BE.

FOR EXAMPLE, THEY TALKED ABOUT AMHERST BOULEVARD, THEY'RE GONNA MAKE THAT MAYBE A RIGHT IN

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SO THERE ARE, THEY, THEY'RE LOOKING AT THAT AREA AND I THINK THAT WOULD COME UP DURING ANY KIND OF SITE PLAN APPROVAL.

YEAH, THAT KIND SURE.

CLOSELY RELATED QUESTION.

UM, DO THEY INTEND TO, UM, OPEN ACCESS TO ELIZABETH AVENUE DIRECTLY SO THAT THE PEOPLE LEAVING CAN USE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT THAT IS ALREADY THERE? I'M SORRY, WHAT DO YOU, I'M NOT SURE I FOLLOWED MR. LU, WHO, WELL RIGHT NOW IT'S CURB ALL ALONG ELIZABETH AVENUE, RIGHT? SO YOU COULDN'T THEORETICALLY DRIVE OUT THERE AND THEN, YOU KNOW, USE THE TRAFFIC LIGHT TO EXIT ONTO GLEN BURNEY? THAT WOULD, THAT WOULD BE THAT I DO NOT, I DO NOT KNOW.

UM, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

AND WILL THEY HAVE DIRECT ACCESS TO, TO GLEN BURNIE? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION.

SOMETHING THE OTHER THAT RIGHT NOW THE ACCESS IS FROM ELIZABETH AVENUE.

IS IT? YEAH, THE CHURCH PARKING LOT COMES IN ON THE ELIZABETH YEAH, THE CHURCH PARKING LOT.

ISN'T THERE A CURB THERE IN FOR THE WHOLE, THERE IS A CURB THERE AND, AND THERE'S A SIDEWALK TOO, UH, IN FRONT OF THE, IN FRONT OF THE PORCH.

BUT THERE IS AN ACCESS THERE, THERE, THERE'S AN APRON THERE SOMEWHERE.

I, I THINK SO, BUT I DON'T THINK IT ACCESSES FROM, FROM THAT POINT, I THINK AN ACCESS FROM ELIZABETH AVENUE, UM, THERE'S ACCESS.

OH THERE IS? OKAY.

OH, OKAY THEN I, I STAND CORRECTED, UH, PASTOR 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS SAFER TO ME.

YOU KNOW, SO, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE EXIT, YOU KNOW, AND USE THE LIGHT, YOU KNOW.

RIGHT.

AGAIN, ALL OF THAT WOULD BE ADDRESSED UH, DURING THE DT SITE PLAN, RIGHT? YEAH, THAT WOULD BE AFTER THE NO MATTER WHATEVER THE USE IS THAT ALL BE ADDRESSED.

YEAH.

ALRIGHT.

THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU.

IT WAS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD.

ON THIS ITEM, I'LL MAKE A MOTION THAT, UH, WE RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND FINDINGS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH ANY COMPREHENSIVE OR APPLICABLE LAND USE PLANS AND DETERMINED TO BE REASONABLE AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

I HAVE A MOTION TO, I HEAR A SECOND.

I'LL SECOND A, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

WE'LL

[VI.B. 3610 M L King Jr. Boulevard - Rezoning ]

BOULEVARD REZONING.

THANK YOU MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND UH, THIS IS OUR NEXT ITEM, 36 10, AND NOW KING JR BOULEVARD REZONING.

AND THE REQUEST SUMMARY HERE IS, UH, EXCUSE ME, THE APPLICANT AND THE OWNER IS TWO FARMS INC.

AND THE LOCATION AGAIN IS 36 10 MILKING JUNIOR BOULEVARD.

CURRENT ZONING HERE IS INDUSTRIAL ONE OR I ONE.

THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS TO GO TO COMMERCIAL THREE OR C DASH THREE AND THE PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER HERE IS EIGHT DASH 2 0 8 7 7.

THIS APPROXIMATE SIZE IS 18 DASH NINE TWO.

AND THE, UH, INDUSTRIAL ONE OR I ONE ZONING DISTRICT ANALYSIS HERE BASICALLY GIVES YOU A BRIEF OVERVIEW AND TALKS ABOUT, UM, MORE INTENSE USES BUT NOT TWO INTENSE.

YOU DO HAVE AN ADDITIONAL INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT THAT'S KNOWN AS I TWO, SO IT'S LESS INTENSIVE TO, UM, I TWO AND BASICALLY GIVES YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO TRY TO CONDUCT, UM, SPECIFIC USES THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE CONDUCTED IN A QUIET AND CLEAN MANNER.

UH, WHICH AND SHOULD NOT POSE OR BE OBNOXIOUS TO ADJACENT RESIDENTIAL OR BUSINESS DISTRICTS.

SO THINGS SUCH AS WAREHOUSING AND WHOLESALING ACTIVITIES.

AND THE COMMERCIAL THREE ANALYSIS AGAIN, UM, OVERALL IT'S REALLY THE CONDUCTION OF BUSINESS SUCH AS OFFICES AND THINGS TO THAT POINT.

NORMALLY ALWAYS FOUND ON, UH, HIGHER GEARED FOR, OR EXCUSE ME, HIGHER TRAFFIC, UH, ROADWAYS AND I USE THIS COMPARISON CHART ONCE AGAIN, HERE IS JUST AS REFLECT THE INDUSTRIAL ONE IN COMPARISON TO THE COMMERCIAL THREE.

SO I'LL LET YOU TAKE A MOMENT TO VIEW THAT.

AND OUR FIRST MAP HERE IS THE VICINITY MAP.

AND HIGHLIGHTED AGAIN IS THE, UH, PARCEL HERE IN RED.

THIS IS FOLLOWED BY OUR BUFFER MAP AND THAT JUST ESTABLISHES THE NOTIFICATIONS THAT WERE SENT OUT IN A HUNDRED FEET AND OUR AERIAL MAP TO REFLECT WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE GROUND.

AND THEN LASTLY HERE, THE ZONING MAP.

UM, AND I KNOW IT'S A BIT DIFFICULT TO PROBABLY TELL BASED ON THIS COLORATION, BUT THE I ONE, UM, IS REPRESENTED IN THAT WHAT KIND OF IS BETWEEN GRAY AND WHITE.

UM, AND THEN YOU HAVE C3 THAT IS ADJACENT, UM, FOLLOWED BY THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS THERE, UM, IN THE BACK AND COMMERCIAL FOUR AS WELL.

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BUT I'M HAPPY TO TAKE QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD IF THEY HAVE ANY BOARD.

HAVE QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK.

THIS, THIS CONFIRMATION THAT APARTMENTS ARE ALLOWED IN C3 AT REGULAR ZONING? YES SIR.

THEY'RE PERMITTED BY RIGHT? FOR MULTIFAMILY? YES, SIR.

MM-HMM .

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

YES, SIR.

UM, WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO, UH, THE PUBLIC FOR COMMENT IF THERE ARE ANY.

COME RIGHT UP TO THE MIC.

ALL RIGHT.

SEEING NONE AGAIN, UH, I'LL MOVE TO THE APPLICANT.

AGAIN, NOT REQUIRED.

UM, BUT IF THEY WOULD, IF THEY HAVE ANY COMMENTS, THEY'RE WELCOME TO PROVIDE THEM.

INTRODUCE YOURSELF, SIR.

GOOD EVENING, MR. CHAIRMAN, MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, MY NAME IS SCOTT ANDERSON.

I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT, TWO FARMS. UM, APPRECIATE KENDRICK'S PRESENTATION.

I THINK HE COVERED MOST OF THE HIGH POINTS I WAS GONNA MAKE.

UM, SO, BUT AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS REQUEST IS IN CONFORMANCE WITH A LAND USE PLAN.

UM, WE THINK IT ADDS VALUE TO THE COMMUNITY AND PROVIDES SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT ON A, A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.

UM, AND WITH THAT I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

APPRECIATE IT.

ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO YOU.

DISCUSSION TO THE BOARD.

I'LL ALSO ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD OF ARM APPROVE THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP, AMENDMENT AND FINDINGS OF THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE OR ACT LAND USE PLAN AND DETERMINE TO BE REASONABLE AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.

I HAVE A MOTION.

I HEAR A SECOND.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION.

AND SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIEDS.

UH, WITH

[VI.C. 4301 E US 70 Hwy – Initial Zoning ]

KENDRICK, YOU HAVE A BRIEF RULE ON THIS ONE? YES, SIR.

MR. CHAIRMAN.

AND THIS IS THE NEXT ITEM HERE.

43 0 1 ECUS 70 HIGHWAY IS THE INITIAL ZONING AND REQUEST SUMMARY HERE.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS DGT VENTURES, LLC AND THE LOCATION ONCE MORE, 43 0 1 ECUS 70 HIGHWAY.

THE CURRENT ZONING IS UNASSIGNED.

UH, THIS WAS RECENTLY ANNEXED AND I BELIEVE THIS WAS SOMETIME IN SEPTEMBER.

UM, AND THE REQUESTED ZONING DISTRICT CURRENTLY IS TO BE, UH, OR TO GO TO COMMERCIAL THREE OR C DASH THREE.

THE PARCEL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER HERE, SEVEN DASH 0 4 0 DASH 29 0 0 0.

AND THE APPROXIMATION FOR THE SIZE IS 10.68 TOTAL ACRES.

AND AS YOU'VE HEARD, UH, THE COMMERCIAL THREE AGAIN, JUST GIVES YOU, UM, MORE CAPABILITIES AS FAR AS FOR ESTABLISHING BUSINESS.

IT'S ALSO LOCATED ON HIGH TRAFFIC, UH, ROADS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THE FIRST MAP HERE IS THE VICINITY MAP AND HIGHLIGHTED IN RED FOR YOU IS THAT PARCEL.

THE FOLLOWING MAP HERE IS THE BUFFER MAP, AND THAT'S JUST FOR THE NOTIFICATION REQUIREMENT.

AND YOU HAVE AN AERIAL MAP TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA AS TO HOW IT LOOKS CURRENTLY.

AND THERE IS THE ZONING MAP.

AND THIS TIME IT'S NOT GONNA REFLECT A DISTRICT OF COURSE 'CAUSE IT HAS NOT BEEN ASSIGNED AS OF YET, BUT IT HAS BEEN ANNEXED.

AND THE ACTION NEEDED AT THIS TIME WOULD BE THE ADOPTION OF THE CONSISTENCY STATEMENT AND THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMEN.

BUT IF THE BOARD HAS QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME.

BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR KINDRED.

THIS, THIS WOULD BE A GOOD ONE TO TALK ABOUT SPOT ZONING AGAIN, SINCE IT'S NOT ADJACENT TO ANY EXISTING C3 PROXIMITY.

IT IS.

BUT, UH, AND YOU TOUCHING WITH, WITH THE ASSIGNMENT OR, I'M SORRY, UM, WITH THE ASSIGNMENT OF ZONING OR FOR INITIAL ZONING? I MEAN, WHEN YOU HAVE SPECIFIC DISTRICTS WITHIN THE VICINITY, THERE'S KIND OF A JUSTIFICATION AGAIN.

WELL, I DO UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT A BUDDING C3, BUT IT'S WITHIN THE AREA.

UH, YOU DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, YOU HAVE BOTH.

I MEAN, IT, IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR THE CORRIDOR, THE ZONE AND EVERYTHING ELSE.

SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE TOUCH THAT BASE.

YES, SIR.

MAKE TAKE IT OFF THE TABLE.

YES.

YES SIR.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR KENDRICK? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

YES, AGAIN, I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

UH, STEP RIGHT UP.

INTRODUCE YOURSELF.

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AGAIN, NOT REQUIRED AND, UH, CERTAINLY DON'T NEED OR DON'T REQUIRE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WARDEN SMITH PROVIDED.

HE DOES A GREAT JOB.

ALL RIGHT.

AND NOT SEEING THE ADVOCATE.

WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO, UH, OPENING THIS UP FOR THE BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.

DID THIS SO, YOU KNOW, THAT'LL BE SERVED SERVICED BY A SERVICE ROAD AND IT HAS NO ACCESS TO HIGHWAY 70.

I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S EVERYBODY KNOWS.

I THINK THERE'S GONNA BE THE NEW NISSAN DEALERSHIP DOWN THERE AND THE LAND'S ALREADY CLEARED AND EVERYTHING, SO THAT'S REAL.

NO IMPACT ON TRAFFIC.

YEAH, THAT'S WHAT I'M CAR APPLICATION FROM.

FROM THE PROPERTY.

YEAH.

ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I'LL UH, ENTERTAIN A MOTION.

I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO RECOMMEND THAT THE BOARD OF ALTMAN APPROVE THE PROPOSED INITIAL ZONING DESIGNATION AND FINDINGS.

THAT THE PROPOSED DESIGNATION IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE AND APPLICABLE LAND USE PLANS AND DETERMINED TO BE REASONABLE AND IN A PUBLIC'S INTEREST.

I HAVE A MOTION.

I HEAR A SECOND.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ALL OPPOSED.

MOTION CARRIES.

ALRIGHT,

[VI.D. 3328 Neuse Boulevard - Rezoning ]

THANK YOU AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN FOR OUR LAST ITEM HERE, 33 28 NEW BOULEVARD REBUILDING.

AND THE REQUEST SUMMARY.

UH, THE APPLICANT IS PB AND J PROPERTY GROUP, LLC, THE LOCATION ONCE MORE, 33 28 NEW BOULEVARD.

AND THE CURRENT ZONING IS COMMERCIAL FOUR OR C DASH FOUR.

THE REQUESTED CHANGE IS TO GO TO COMMERCIAL THREE OR C DASH THREE.

UM, PARTIAL IDENTIFICATION NUMBER HERE, EIGHT DASH 2 4 2 1 1 7.

AND THE SIZE APPROXIMATION IS 0.52 TOTAL ACRES.

THE COMMERCIAL FOUR DISTRICT, UH, HAS SOME SIMILARITIES TO THE C3.

IT IS JUST, UH, WHAT I WOULD DEEM LESS INTENSIVE.

SO AS IT'S STATED HERE, UH, C FOUR HAS NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DISTRICTS ESTABLISHED, UM, AS A DISTRICT, WHICH THE PRINCIPAL USE OF LAND TO PROVIDE FOR THE RETAILING OF GOODS AND SERVICES.

UM, AND SOME, AGAIN, SOME SIMILARITIES TO C3 AS FAR AS FOR OFFICES AND BEING ABLE TO BE ESTABLISHED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

AND AS YOU CONTINUE TO HEAR TONIGHT, THE C3 ANALYSIS, UM, AGAIN, JUST GIVES YOU THAT ABILITY FOR DIFFERENT OFFICES AND BUSINESSES TO TAKE PLACE MAINLY ON HIGH TRAVEL GROWTH WAYS.

THE USES COMPARISON CHART HERE, YOU'LL FIND AGAIN ON C FOURS ON THE LEFT AND C THREES TO THE RIGHT AND YOU CAN HAVE A MOMENT TO VIEW THAT.

AND OUR FIRST MAP HERE IS THE VICINITY MAP AND IT SHOWS THE LOCATION FOR THE PARCEL.

IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN RED AND THAT IS NOW FOLLOWED BY THE BUFFER MAP HERE.

AND THIS IS JUST UNDERSTANDING FOR NOTICE REQUIREMENTS AND THE REFLECTION OF WHAT IS ON THE GROUND FOR THE AERIAL MAP.

AND HERE IS THE ZONING MAP AND THAT LIGHTER, PINKISH RED COLOR IS YOUR C FOUR.

AND ACROSS THE WAY, UM, IS THE C3 WITH THE DARKER RED AND THE PARCELS HIGHLIGHTED, UM, AND RED THERE.

AND THE ACTION NEEDED ONCE MORE, THE ADOPTION OF THE CONSISTENCY STATEMENT AND THE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.

BUT IF THE BOARD HAS ANY QUESTIONS, UH, I'M HAPPY TO TAKE THOSE AT THIS TIME.

ALRIGHT, DOES THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR KEN? ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

ALRIGHT, WITH THAT AGAIN, I'LL LET RUN UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT.

UM, ANYBODY HAS ANYTHING TO ADD ON THIS ITEM? YES MA'AM.

JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF AND YOU'VE GOT, YOU'VE GOT THREE MINUTES.

MY NAME IS BARBARA HUSK.

I OWN, IF YOU HAD THE PICTURE OF THE PROPERTY UP THERE, I OWN THE LONG STRETCH, WHICH IS, UH, IF YOU BRING IT UP OR IT JUST SHOWS THAT, UH, WE OWN THE BIG PIECE RIGHT HERE.

WE'RE PROBABLY THE SECOND LARGEST PIECE.

IT'S THE LONG STRETCH, RIGHT? WHERE IT GOES BACK IN THAT BIG PIECE.

YEP.

MM-HMM .

WE SIT, THAT'S OUR PROPERTY.

WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 50 YEARS.

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TRAFFIC WISE, WE, IT'S BEEN A NIGHTMARE JUST FOR US TO COME OUT OUR DRIVE.

WE OWN 69 FEET ON THIS BOULEVARD TO GET OUT THERE SO, SO HEAVILY TRAFFIC.

AND I CAN TRY TO CHIME IN TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION, BUT MA'AM, THERE, UH, I WAS GONNA ADDRESS YOUR QUESTION IN TERMS OF WHAT MAY GO IN THERE, THERE'S, YOU REALLY CAN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IS GOING TO GO IN.

THERE'S A HOST OF USES DEPENDENT UPON IF IT'S ACTUALLY ZONED TO C3 OR REZONED TO C3, WE HAVE A TABLE OF PERMISSIBLE USES THAT HAS ALLOWANCES FOR A MULTITUDE OF USES.

OKAY.

NOW, MS. GRAY, MY NEIGHBOR BEEN THERE A LONG TIME.

SHE SOLD IT.

SHE WAS AN INSURANCE COMPANY.

WE HAVE NO PROBLEMS. 'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TRAFFIC IN AND OUT THERE.

YES MA'AM.

BUT IF THERE'S CERTAIN THINGS GO THERE, IT COULD BE A LOT OF TRAFFIC.

THAT MEANS TRAFFIC.

I'M GONNA HAVE TROUBLE GETTING OUT THAT TO 69 FEET.

SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? AND WE ABUT THAT WHOLE SLICE.

I UNDERSTAND.

YES MA'AM.

BUT THE, THIS BOARD HAS THE JOB TO CONSIDER ALL USES THAT COULD APPLY.

SO THAT WOULD BE TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION.

UM, THEY, THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THAT'S THE MATTER THAT A PERSON'S BEEN THERE IN A QUIET, RESERVED HOME FOR OVER 50 YEARS.

SOMEONE ELSE CAN COME IN AND CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR, UH, THE PUT A LITTLE NEIGHBOR THERE.

I WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THAT.

BUT THE BOARD WOULD DEFINITELY HAVE THE ABILITY TO CONSIDER WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY UNDERSTAND, UM, TO THE BEST OF THEIR KNOWLEDGE AND KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AS A WHOLE, UM, AS TO THE REZONING REQUEST.

BUT AS A CITIZEN, EVERY CITIZEN HAS THAT ABILITY TO MAKE THAT REQUEST TO REZONE THEIR PROPERTY.

IT'S BEEN REALLY QUIET.

THAT'S WHAT I, THERE'S A BAR GOING IN THERE DECK AND THERE DEFINITELY.

NO, NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT.

SOMETHING LIKE MRS. BRADY'S INSURANCE COMPANY, SHE NEVER FOLLOWED US.

YES.

YES MA'AM.

I'M SAY NOISE AND GET IN AND OUT TRAFFIC.

YOU JUST SIT AND WATCH THAT HIGHWAY.

YOU SEE SOMETHING? TRAFFIC, TRAFFIC.

I CAN'T EVEN GET OUTTA THERE AT EIGHT.

I JUST CAN'T.

I I'VE LOOKED THEIR VIEWS, MA'AM.

I WOULD, I WOULD JUST WANT TO ADD, UM, REAL QUICK, THIS BOARD IS A TECHNICAL REVIEW BOARD.

SO WE'RE LOOKING AT, LOOKING AT THE TECHNICALITIES, BUT WE DON'T MAKE THE FINAL DECISION.

YOUR BOARD OF ALDERMAN MAKE THE FINAL DECISION AND SO YOU'LL GET ANOTHER NOTICE ON THAT, RIGHT, KENDRICK? YES, THAT'S CORRECT.

YOU'LL GET ANOTHER NOTICE FOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN MEETING AND THEN THAT'S WHERE WE APPRECIATE YOU COMING OUT OF COURSE.

BUT THAT'S WHERE, UM, YOU'LL HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO SPEAK ON THAT.

AND YOU COULD ALSO CONTACT, THAT'S WARD, UH, FIVE, RIGHT? I THINK, I BELIEVE YOU'RE CORRECT.

IT COULD, I DON'T DUNNO IF DEFENDANT OH, JOHNNY JO.

YES, MA.

SO IT'S WARD, UH, FOUR.

SO, SO WHICHEVER ALDERMAN, UM, DEPENDING ON WHEN IT COMES UP, YOU KNOW, THERE IS THAT ELECTION.

UH, THAT'S WHO I WOULD SPEAK TO ABOUT THIS MATTER AND, AND, AND WHEN THEY COME UP.

SO REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE DO, THIS IS NOT THE END.

THAT WOULD BE WHEN YOU WOULD'VE THAT YES SIR.

UH, A PUBLIC COMMENT IS STILL OPEN.

YOU ARE, UH, ANYONE'S WELCOME TO SPEAK.

COME RIGHT ON DOWN, GET THREE MINUTES.

YEAH, YEAH.

I, I'M THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY.

WE BOUGHT IT, UH, FROM THE GRADY AND GRADY INSURANCE ESTATE AND WE'VE REMODELED THE BACK BUILDING ON THE LEFT NOW, YOU KNOW, JUST PUTTING NEW SHINGLES AND NEW DOORS AND NEW VINYL AROUND IT.

WE'RE CURRENTLY DOING THE INSIDE REMODEL AT THE FRONT BUILDING, JUST NEW CARPET AND PAINT AND BA AND ICE.

WE'RE JUST PLAYING, RENTING OUT IN SMALL OFFICES LIKE A INDIVIDUAL CPA OR SMALL, UM, SMALL COMPANY THAT MIGHT NEED TWO OFFICES, STUFF LIKE THAT.

UH, RIGHT NOW I'VE GOT 15 PARKING SPOTS.

I CAN GO UP TO 18 IF I NEED TO, BUT IT'S GOING TO KIND OF REMAIN THE TYPE OF, UH, FLOW, TRAFFIC FLOW AS GREAT AND GRADIENT CHURCH AND SOMETIMES THE, UH, SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS STEP IN FOR A COUPLE MEETINGS OR STUFF LIKE THAT, THEN THEY HEAD ON OUT THE DOOR, STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE NOT REALLY CHANGING TRAFFIC WISE AND WE WE'RE ACTUALLY MAKING THE PROPERTY MUCH BETTER AND MUCH BETTER LOOKING.

WE'LL, WE'LL TAKE GOOD CARE OF IT AND WE'LL BE GOOD NEIGHBORS, I PROMISE YOU.

.

SO I JUST WANTED HER TO KNOW WHAT WE WERE PLANNING ON DOING THROUGH THE PROPERTY.

APPRECIATE THAT.

UM, I I I, I, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS, BUT AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S A REZONE, IF YOU WERE TO THEN SELL THIS PROPERTY, IT WOULD HAVE WHATEVER ZONING IS ON IT AND THEN THEY COULD DO WHATEVER IS PERMITTED BY RIGHT ON THAT PROPERTY.

SO AGAIN, IT'S WORTH, UM,

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UM, OKAY.

IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS MATTER? ALRIGHT, HEARING NONE, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE, UH, BOARD FOR, UH, COMMENT.

I COMMENT IS WHAT THE GENTLEMAN DESCRIBED CAN BE DONE UNDER YOUR EXISTING C FOUR, UH, ZONING.

AND THAT I REALLY DON'T SEE A, UH, NOTHING COMPELS ME TO WANT TO THINK THAT, UH, GOING FROM A C FOUR TO A C3 CHANGES A WHOLE LOT LOOKING AT THE, AT THE USES AND SO FORTH.

AND, AND EVEN WHAT HE DESCRIBED THAT HE WAS GOING TO DO WORKS JUST FINE UNDER A C FOUR, THE EXISTING C FOUR ZONING.

MM-HMM .

YEAH, I, UH, I, I, I AGREE.

I YES.

UH, MR. SIR.

UH, SURE.

YOU, YOU, YEAH.

SO THE, THE, THE CURRENT ZONING RIGHT UP TO THE MICROPHONE THERE, SIR, IT'LL BE ON CAMERA.

CURRENT ZONING IS C FOUR.

AND SO THE, THE BACK BUILDING, THE LADY WANTS TO, UH, TRAIN DOGS IN, UH, HAVE THE OWNERS COME WITH HER DOG.

THEY GO INSIDE THE BUILDING.

THEY HAVE A CLASS ON HOW TO TEACH HER DOG.

ALSO, SHE TRAINS SERVICE DOGS AS WELL.

WELL, SO AS THEY COME FOR OUR CLASS OR TWO HOUR CLASS, WHATEVER, THEN THEY LEAVE.

AND SO RIGHT NOW IT'S ZONED FOR VETERINARY'S OFFICE.

I CAN PUT A VETERINARY IN OFFICE THERE.

THE CURRENT, THE GUY AT THE CITY SAID WE CAN'T HAVE CLASSES TO TRAIN YOUR DOGS THERE.

WE HAVE TO BE REZONED.

I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF RIDICULOUS TO GET REZONED.

SO MY TENANT CAN HAVE ACCESS TO HAVE CLASSES FOR HER, FOR HER PEOPLE THAT WANT TO TRAIN THEIR DOGS OR TRAIN SERVICE DOGS.

AND THAT IS ON THE BACK LEFT BUILDING.

SO THERE'S THREE BUILDINGS ON THE PROPERTY.

FRONT BUILDING IS GRADING GRAD INSURANCE.

THEY ALSO USE THE BACK BUILDING.

AND THEN YOU HAVE A DETACHED TWO CAR STORAGE BUILDING ON THE RIGHT SIDE.

SO I THINK IT'S SILLY TO BE HERE TO REZONING IT, BUT I'M FOLLOWING THE RULES OF THE CITY.

'CAUSE RIGHT NOW I CURRENTLY REZONING, I CAN HAVE A VETERINARIAN OFFICE, YOU CAN HAVE SURGERY IN THERE, BOARDING DOGS AND ALL THAT.

WE'RE NOT BOARDING DOGS.

WE'RE HAVING JUST GLASSES AND GOING HOME.

SO I, I WISH WE WASN'T HERE TO HAVE TO REZONE IT, BUT BASED ON THE RULES OF THE CITY THAT THEY SAID I HAVE TO HAVE IT REZONED.

OKAY.

STAFF'S COMMENTS ON THAT? UM, I MEAN, HE'S, HE'S NOT WRONG.

UH, I'VE BEEN IN CORRESPONDENCE A LITTLE BIT, UH, WITH MR. SANDERSON AND BASICALLY IT'S NOT ALLOWED AS A PERMITTED USE IN C FOUR, BUT IT IS ALLOWED AS A PER PERMITTED USE IN C3.

SO WHAT WE HAVE CURRENTLY ON THE TABLE OF PERMISSIBLE USES TALKS ABOUT KENNELING AND 'CAUSE IF THERE'S ANY ACTIVITY THAT INVOLVES THE KENNELING INSPECT AND THAT'S THE CLOSEST RELATABLE USE.

SO VETERINARIAN'S OFFICE DID NOT FIT WHAT WAS EXPLAINED.

SO THAT'S THE BEST WAY I CAN EXPLAIN IT.

AND WE'RE KENNELING, WE'RE NOT KENNELING ANY DOGS.

AND YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY, AND MAYBE A VET DON'T KENNEL DOGS AS WELL, BUT A VET DOES HAVE SURGERY AND THEY DO STAY OVERNIGHT A COUPLE NIGHTS OR THREE NIGHTS AND STUFF LIKE THAT.

SO WE'RE WAY LESS THAN WHAT A VETERINARIAN WOULD DO, OBVIOUSLY.

WOULD, WOULD HIS USE, UH, QUALIFY WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT IN FOUR? NOT IN C FOUR.

IT'S JUST NOT ALLOWED.

BUT THE VETERINARIAN'S OFFICE IS ALLOWED FOR PERMITTED BY MM-HMM .

IN C FOUR.

MR. FLUKE, I GUESS, UM, I'M GONNA ASK A QUESTION AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO ANSWER IT, BUT I'M GONNA ASK IT.

UM, WE ARE LOOKING AT REDOING SOME OF THE LAND USE ORDINANCES.

WOULD THIS BE COVERED IN ANYTHING LIKE THAT? BUT WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO DO THIS, AND THAT MAY BE IN SIX MONTHS OR A YEAR OR WHENEVER THAT ALL CHANGES.

IF YOU DON'T WANNA COMMENT, THAT'S FINE.

YEAH, NO, I'M GONNA GIVE AN UPDATE ON THAT, UH, PROCESS SHORTLY.

UM, IT'S VERY UNUSUAL THE WAY THE CITY OF NEWBORN ORLEANS MEANS, AND WHEN IT COMES TO KENNELING AND VETERINARY USES AND ANIMAL TRAINING, AND IN MOST PLACES, THIS WOULD BE GROUPED INTO ONE USE AND IT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FINE.

BUT DUE TO SOME STRANGE LEGACY LANGUAGE, HERE HE IS.

AND EVEN THOUGH IT'S LESS INTENSE MM-HMM .

TO BRING SOME DOGS IN AND THEN SEND THEM HOME, THEN, UH, KINDA LAYING IN A VETERINARY SERVICE WITH OVERNIGHT STAYS AND DOGS IN, IN AND OUT OF RUNS AND THINGS.

THIS IS HOW IT'S WRITTEN.

SO IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S HE IS USING KENDRICK'S ADVICE OF KEEPING THIS MEAT AND CLEAN AND ASKING FOR THE REZONING.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

OKAY.

UM, BUT AGAIN, REMEMBER MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, YOU HAVE TO

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CORRECT? THAT'S TRUE.

UM, ALRIGHT.

ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BOARD? THANK YOU, SIR.

OH, THANK YOU.

I'M SORRY MA'AM.

THE PUBLIC COMMENT WAS THIN.

HE WAS THE APPLICANT.

WE ALLOWED HIM TO COME UP AND TO ANSWER A, A QUESTION FROM A BOARD MEMBER SURE.