[1. Call to order and Welcome.]
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I'D LIKE TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING FEBRUARY 14TH, 2026.UH, WE'D LIKE FOR, UM, CITY MANAGER.
SHALL WE HAVE A CORN? THANK YOU.
UH, MISSION STATEMENT AND GUIDING PRINCIPLES.
THE NEWBURG REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
LEADING THE WAY FOR COMMUNITY TRANSFORMATION AND IMPROVEMENT BY DIRECT, BY DIRECTLY ADDRESSING COMMUNITY NEEDS AND VITAL AREAS OF PUBLIC HEALTH, INFRASTRUCTURE, HOUSING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.
THE COMMISSION IS COMMITTED TO AN ACCOUNTABLE, TRANSPARENT, AND PUBLICLY DRIVEN PROCESS.
WE START WITH MR. COMMISSIONER MORGAN.
NUMBER ONE, PAST, PRESENT, FUTURE EQUAL TIME.
NUMBER THREE, THIS BE A CONSENSUS.
SHARE ACCURATE INFORMATION, PUBLIC PERCEPTION.
[4. Consider Approving the Agenda.]
FOUR.UH, CONSIDER APPROVING THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING.
UH, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE IS READ THE AGENDA.
IS THERE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING CHAIR? MAY.
ONE CORRECTION ON THE AGENDA FOR NUMBER SIX IS, UH, WHERE IT HAS PUBLIC COMMENT.
UH, THE PRESENTATION AFTER THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN NUMBER SEVEN AND NOT A SUBSECTION OF SIX.
UH, THAT, THAT ONE CORRECTION NEEDS TO BE MADE.
DID EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THAT? ALL RIGHT.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE AGENDA WITH NECESSARY CORRECTION? SO MOVED.
I DO MAKE THE MOTION TO APPROVE, UH, THE MINUTES.
THE AGENDA INCLUDED THE CHANGE THAT THE, UH, I'M SORRY.
SECOND TO ACCEPT AGENDA WITH NECESSARY CORRECTIONS.
[5. Consider approval of Minutes]
CONSIDER APPROVING MINUTES FOR JANUARY THE 24TH.HOPEFULLY EVERYONE HAS REVIEWED ANY NECESS, ANYONE FINDING ANY CORRECTIONS THAT WERE NECESSARY OR NEED TO BE CORRECTED.
DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO MOVE? I HEARD FIRST I SECOND HAS BEEN MOVING.
PROBABLY SECOND TO CONSIDER APPRO MINUTES FOR JANUARY 24TH.
[6. Public Comment]
PUBLIC COMMENT.UH, PRESENTATION BY MR. CHAPMAN.
MR. CHAPMAN, STATE YOUR NAME AND YOUR ADDRESS PLEASE.
AND THIS IS MY WIFE KAREN CHAPMAN.
AND THE ADDRESS IS 2 0 3 BANDON DRIVE.
YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE ADDRESS? NO, NO, YOUR ADDRESS.
UM, WE ARE REQUESTING TO APPROVAL TO PURCHASE A PARCEL OF LAND ON MECHANIC STREET THAT IS DIRECTLY CONNECTED TO PROPERTY THAT WE CURRENTLY OWN.
AT THIS TIME, THERE ARE NO PLANS TO CONSTRUCT ANY NEW BUILDINGS OR PERMANENT STRUCTURES ON THE PROPERTY.
THE PURPOSE OF ACQUIRING THE ADDITIONAL LAND IS TO CONSOLIDATE AND IMPROVE THE USE OF OUR EXISTING PROPERTIES.
THE EXTENDED EXPANDED SPACE WILL BE USED TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL ORGANIZED STORAGE FOR THE EXISTING STORE, WHICH WILL HELP REDUCE CLUTTER AND IMPROVE THE OVERALL APPEARANCE OF THE AREA.
IN ADDITION, THE LAND WILL ALLOW US TO INCREASE THE SIZE OF THE YARD FOR OUR CURRENT RENTAL PROPERTY.
THE PROPERTY WILL BE PROPERLY MAINTAINED AND USED IN COMPLIANCE WITH ALL ZONING AND CITY REGULATIONS.
AND WE ARE COMMITTED TO BE RESPONSIBLE PROPERTY OWNERS COMPLYING WITH CITY
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CODES AND MAINTAINING THE PROPERTY IN A WAY THAT WILL POSITIVELY CONTRIBUTE TO THE COMMUNITY.ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? UM, WAIT, IT'S MECHANIC STREET.
NOW I'LL, I WILL, I WILL TELL YOU THIS RIGHT UP FRONT, AND I THINK YOU AND I TALKED, UH, MOST OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, THE IDEA WAS TO BUILD HOUSES AND FOR DEVELOP MEANS, BUT, BUT I UNDERSTAND, BUT LEMME TELL YOU THIS, UH, THE COMMITTEE TO COMMISSIONER PROCTOR AND COMMISSIONER STRICK AND I, WE MET LAST WEEK, AND WE, AND WE REALIZE THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT'S GONNA COME BEFORE THIS BOARD THAT DOESN'T FIT EXACTLY WHAT WE HAVE ON PAPER.
SO WE, WE ARE AT THE POINT NOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA PROBABLY START TAKING THOSE PROPERTY PIECES PIECE THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS OR THOSE REQUESTS ONE AT A TIME.
SOME OF 'EM MAY NOT FIT AND SOME THINGS MIGHT CHANGE TO ALLOW YOU TO DO THAT.
AM I RIGHT, COMMISSIONER? COULD YOU HAVE THAT? YEAH, WE BASICALLY, WE WERE, SO WE TYPICALLY, WHICH, YOU KNOW, WE TYPICALLY PUT RESTRICTIONS ON THE SALE OF PROPERTY BECAUSE SORT OF THE, ONE OF THE MAIN FOCUSES OF OUR COMMISSION IS, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL, GETTING MORE HOUSING IN THE AREA.
UM, SO WHEN WE'VE, WHEN WE'VE SOLD PROPERTY BEFORE AND, AND ONLY REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS HAVE THE STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO PUT LIMITS ON, LIKE, YOU MUST BUILD A RESIDENTIAL DWELLING, YOU MUST, YOU KNOW, CAN'T HAVE JUNK CARS LIKE THE LIMITS THAT WE PUT ON IT.
SO THAT'S PART OF OUR STATUTORY AUTHORITY.
YOU KNOW, WE DON'T, WE'RE NOT DOING IT TO BE MEAN OR, YOU KNOW, TO SAY YOU CAN'T HAVE A BIGGER PROPERTY.
WE'RE DOING IT BECAUSE THAT'S LITERALLY STATUTORILY WHY WE'RE HERE.
SO, UM, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, WE ACTUALLY, THIS CAME UP AT OUR, UM, RETREAT A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, AND A FEW OF US MET JUST TO SORT OF BOUNCE IDEAS.
WE GOT, UM, SOME INFORMATION FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY ON WHAT WE HAD DONE IN THE PAST, AND I LOOKED AT OTHER REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS IN OTHER STATES, UM, AND SORT OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING AND WHAT LIMITS THEY'RE PUTTING ON PROPERTY.
SO WE ACTUALLY, WE DON'T DO SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE MORE RESTRICTIVE THINGS THAT OTHER STATES DO.
UM, BUT IT DID COME UP TO SAY, YOU KNOW, IF WHAT IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO EXPAND THEIR OWN PROPERTY, WHAT IF THEY WANT THE LOT NEXT DOOR? WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT DO WE DO? WE HADN'T HAD THAT COME UP YET.
I I HONESTLY, I DIDN'T KNOW THIS WAS COMING.
I DON'T KNOW IF YOU DID, BUT I DIDN'T KNOW THIS REQUEST WAS COMING.
SO WE DISCUSSED THAT LITERALLY TWO WEEKS AGO.
AND, UM, AND WE DIDN'T HAVE A GREAT ANSWER.
WE, I, I HAVE NOTES FROM OUR MEETING AND WE THOUGHT WE NEED TO SIT DOWN WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND SORT OF JUST UNDERSTAND.
'CAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO BE, WE DON'T WANT TO APPEAR THAT WE'RE TREATING PEOPLE DIFFERENTLY.
IF WE'RE SAYING TO THIS PERSON, YOU MUST BUY AND YOU MUST BUILD A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY.
AND TO EVERY PERSON WHO'S BOUGHT FROM US IN THE PAST, YOU KNOW, HOWEVER MANY YEARS, SIX OR EIGHT YEARS WE'VE SAID THAT SAME THING.
UM, AND SO WE JUST SORT OF STARTED THESE DISCUSSIONS ABOUT WHAT IF SOMEBODY KIND OF WANTS TO EXPAND THEIR EXISTING HOLDINGS.
UM, YOU KNOW, WE DID NOT HAVE A FIRM TAKEAWAY.
WE WERE NOT READY YET TO PRESENT TO THIS IN THIS MEETING.
KIND OF WHAT OUR TAKEAWAY WAS.
WE WANTED TO DISCUSS MORE WITH THE ATTORNEY, LOOK MORE INTO WHAT OTHER, UM, PLACES DO, AND JUST REALLY WE'RE, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THE EQUITIES, RIGHT.
IF WE TREAT YOU DIFFERENTLY, THEN DOES THE, THEN DO WE HAVE TO TREAT THE NEXT PERSON DIFFERENTLY? ARE WE SETTING OURSELVES UP FOR LIABILITY? THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS TO THINK ABOUT.
SO, SO THAT DISCUSSION IS IN PROCESS.
UM, DEFINITELY WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE COMMISSIONER'S QUESTIONS.
MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING WE DIDN'T THINK ABOUT.
UM, BUT WE, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND.
AND LIKE, I WOULD LOVE THE LOT NEXT DOOR TO ME TOO.
I, YOU KNOW, I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM.
UM, BUT IT'S JUST SORT OF, WE HAVE A STATUTORY MANDATE, SO WE'RE TRYING TO BALANCE THOSE THINGS AND, AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT IS, IS POSSIBLE THAT WE COULD DO IT.
SO WE JUST, WE WANT, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO DO IT IN A, IN A ORDER WHERE THE LAWYERS, OUR CITY ATTORNEY, WON'T GET US IN TROUBLE.
WE WON'T GET NOBODY ELSE IN TROUBLE.
BUT AT THE SAME TIME TREAT YOU FAIR AND YEAH.
UH, I'VE BEEN THERE ALL MY LIFE.
AND THE ONLY THING THAT FITTED ON THAT PARCEL OF LAND WAS A SINGLE SMALL TRAILER.
AND THAT WAS STILL TIGHT ON THAT LAND.
I KNOW THE NEIGHBOR, MR. HERBERT BORN YEAH.
AND IT'S TOO MUCH THAT YOU, IT 'CAUSE WE THOUGHT ABOUT BUILDINGS, BUT IT'S, IT'S NOT MUCH YOU COULD DO WITH IT.
WELL, YEAH, I GOT A COUPLE THINGS.
I, I THINK, AND, AND, AND DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND WHAT, WHAT COMMISSIONER PROCTOR IS SAYING, BUT, UH, OBVIOUSLY, UH, CITIZENS CAN COME IN HERE AND PRESENT AND IT'S OUR JOB TO LISTEN TO THE INFORMATION.
AND THEN, UH, IF SOMEONE MAKES A MOTION, THEN OBVIOUSLY WE CAN VOTE YES OR NO.
SO I DON'T THINK THERE'S A, UH, UM, A STANDARD CURRENTLY WHERE THE GENTLEMAN CAN'T PRESENT AND US TAKE A VOTE ON IT.
UH, I GUESS, JAY, MY QUESTION TO YOU IS HOW LONG HAVE YOU
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OWNED THAT STORE? UH, THAT STORE BEEN IN MY FAMILY FOR, I OWN THE STORE FOR FIVE YEARS, BUT IT'S BEEN IN MY FAMILY SINCE A LONG TIME.AND, AND HOW LONG HAS THAT LOT BEEN, THAT LOT BEHIND YOU? YOU GUYS BEEN VACANT? THAT IS BEEN, IT IS YEAR AND IT IS BEEN A DUMP SITE.
I CAN KEEP IT UP BETTER THAN IT HAS BEEN.
I UNDERSTAND PEOPLE HAVE BEEN DUMPING TIRES AND NOT, NOT KEEPING UP THE, THE LANDSCAPING, EVERYTHING.
I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS, AND WE TALKED ABOUT THIS IN, IN WHAT WE CALL THE RETREAT, UH, LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE LAST, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL LOTS THAT ARE OVER IN W FIELD, UH, THAT DON'T MEET BUILDING REQUIREMENT.
THERE ARE SEVERAL LOTS OVER THERE THAT ARE SMALL.
UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL LOTS THAT, UM, UM, YOU JUST CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH.
UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME OTHER FOLKS AND I THINK SARAH JUST, UH, UH, COMMISSIONER TY JUST ASKED THIS QUESTION.
UH, THERE'S BEEN MAYBE TWO OTHER FOLKS THAT HAVE PRESENTED WHERE WE'VE SOLD LOTS, UH, TO THEM THAT WAS ADJACENT TO THEIR CURRENT PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE NOT BUILT ON THEM.
UH, MY STANCE ON THIS WOULD BE SIMPLY, UH, THE GENTLEMAN HAS A A, A STORE THAT'S BEEN IN THAT COMMUNITY FOR 40 YEARS, AS HE'S JUST STATED, HE OWNS THE PROPERTY BEHIND THAT.
UH, THIS LOT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT.
IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S MUCH INTEREST IN THE LOT.
IT'S, IT IS, IT'S A VERY SMALL LOT.
IF IT'S GOING TO BENEFIT HIS, HIS PLACE OF BUSINESS BENEFIT, HIS RESIDENTIAL RENTAL, I'M NOT SEEING ANY REASON WHY WE SHOULDN'T TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION TO SELL HIM THAT LOT.
UM, AND SO, UM, IF THERE, IF THERE ARE OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT COMMISSIONERS, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR 'EM.
BUT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO SELL HIM, TO SELL HIM THE LOT THAT HE'S REQUESTING.
I NEED TO GET A RULING FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE AND WHAT GIVE US A Y YES, SIR.
MY CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION, THE, UM, YOU'VE HIT THE, YOU'VE HIT THE HIGHLIGHTS.
UM, THE, THE PURPOSE OF THIS COMMISSION IS TO CREATE HOUSING IN THIS COMMUNITY.
UM, UM, THE, THE EASY THE EASY ANSWERS ARE, UM, LOTS THAT ARE NON-CONFORMING, SIMPLY TOO NARROW, UM, NOT DEEP ENOUGH TO ACCOMMODATE AN APPROPRIATE DWELLING.
THOSE ARE EASY, UM, LOTS IN THE FLOOD ZONE.
UM, ON AT THE OTHER EXTREME, HIGH AND DRY LOTS WITH GOOD VISIBILITY AND, AND, AND, UM, ON A, ON A, ON A DEVELOPED STREET, THOSE ARE EASY TO SAY, YES, WE NEED A HOUSE.
THIS ONE MIGHT BE IN ONE OF THOSE IN BETWEENS.
UM, YOU KNOW, I WAS JUST JO JOTTING DOWN SOME NOTES TRYING TO THINK OF OTHER, OTHER OBJECTIVE FACTORS BECAUSE I THINK WHERE COMMISSIONER PROCTOR'S GOING IS, IS, IS DOWN THE RIGHT PATH OF WHAT KIND OF METRICS CAN YOU APPLY REPEATEDLY SO THAT YOU COME UP WITH A FAIR ANSWER AND NOT THIS, YOU DID IT FOR HIM, WHY NOT ME? AND THEN WE'RE ALL STUTTERING BECAUSE WE LIKE HIM A LOT.
AND, UM, SO, UH, BEYOND THE FLOOD ZONE AND, AND THE, THE, THE, THE NON-CONFORMING SIZE, UM, I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH TIME YOU'VE SPENT TRYING TO AGGRESSIVELY MARKET PROPERTIES.
YOU KNOW, THERE MAY BE A TITLE IN MARKET OR HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN SITTING THAT, THAT MAYBE CHANGES THE DYNAMIC.
UM, BUT ANY OTHER FACTORS THAT WE CAN THINK OF, UM, SO THAT WE CAN VERBALIZE THOSE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN DEFEND A DECISION TO TAKE WHAT IS OTHERWISE A BUILDABLE LOT AND SELL IT TO THE, A JOINER TO HAVE A NICE LARGER LOT.
AND, AND THERE ARE BENEFITS TO THAT, TO THE STREETSCAPE.
THERE, THERE'S, AS I KNOW YOU GUYS HAVE DISCUSSED, THERE ARE, THERE ARE BENEFITS TO BEAUTIFYING THE STREET SO THAT OTHERS THEN WHO OWN, DECIDE TO BUILD THEMSELVES.
BUT, BUT, BUT, BUT ATTORNEY, I THINK THE CONCERN HERE WOULD BE, UH, LAST, LAST TWO WEEKS AGO IN, IN THE MEETING THERE, UH, LET'S BE CLEAR, A LOT OF THIS IS SUBJECTIVE.
SO FOR SURE, UH, IT IS, UH, IT IS A, UH, A RIGHT TO MAKE A MOTION AND FORCE TO VOTE ON SOMETHING.
SO WE DON'T HAVE A STANDARD, UH, PROCESS ON THAT.
I BROUGHT THAT UP IN THE MEETING TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO MY CONCERN WAS THAT THERE WERE, AND HAVE BEEN OTHER LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN SOLD, OKAY.
UH, FOR THE SAME PURPOSE THAT SOMEONE COULD NOT USE.
AND SO THE SUBJECTIVENESS OF THIS GENTLEMAN PRESENTING NOW, UH, AND THEN PAST INSTANCES, WHAT WERE THE VARIABLES IN THAT CONVERSATION TO SAY, HEY, WE'RE GONNA VOTE TODAY FOR THIS GENTLEMAN HERE, BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA VOTE FOR THIS ONE HERE.
UH, AGAIN, THERE'S NO UNDERSTANDING.
THIS IS STATUTORY REGULATION AND WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.
THERE ARE THOSE INDIVIDUAL VARIABLES.
THIS SEEMS TO BE ONE OF THOSE INDIVIDUAL VARIABLES.
THERE HAVE ALSO BEEN OTHER INDIVIDUAL VARIABLES BEFORE WHERE WE PRESENTED THEM AND THEN, OR PRIOR TO ME BEING ON A COMMISSION WHERE THEY'VE BEEN PRESENTED.
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IF YOU LIKE, AND WE'VE SOLD THEM.SO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE IT'S A, A FAIR PRACTICE TO NOW PUT THIS RULE INTO PLACE WHEN THIS GENTLEMAN'S COMING UP HERE TRYING TO BUY A PIECE OF PROPERTY.
AND NOW WE'RE GONNA SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO GO BACK AND REVIEW THIS PROCESS BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA SELL YOU THE LOT.
AND I THINK WE SHOULD REALLY LOOK AT THAT.
AND WE, I TRIED TO BRING THAT UP A COUPLE WEEKS AGO.
UH, LEGAL COUNSEL WAS NOT THERE IN THE MEETING.
AND SO NOW WE'RE RUNNING INTO THIS SITUATION AND WE'RE SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO GO BACK AND RECONSIDER THAT.
I DON'T THINK WE'RE SAYING, WE'RE NOT VOTING TODAY, COMMISSIONER STEWART, I THINK WE'RE SAYING THAT THIS IS UNDER DISCUSSION AND WE OFTEN GET THIS PRESENTATION FROM FOLKS AND DON'T VOTE AT THE SAME MEETING.
THAT'S, THAT'S VERY COMMON FOR US TO TAKE ONE EXTRA MEETING.
SO I, I DON'T THINK ANYONE'S SAYING THEY'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HOLD THE VOTE ON IT TODAY.
THAT'S, IT'S ABSOLUTELY SOMEONE'S PREROGATIVE TO MAKE A MOTION TO VOTE.
BUT I THINK WE'RE SAYING THIS IS, THIS IS ACTUALLY CURRENTLY UNDER ACTIVE DISCUSSION.
UM, I'D PERSONALLY LOVE TO SEE THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU THINK WE'VE SOLD BEFORE TO THE ADJOINERS THAT DIDN'T BUILD.
UM, HAVE ONLY BEEN ON THE COMMISSION A FEW YEARS, BUT, WELL, I MEAN, I THINK IT'S ALL CONSIDERATION ABSOLUTE, I THINK IS THE ISSUE AND ABSOLUTELY.
TRYING TO BE FAIR TO EVERYBODY.
WELL, I, I'LL GIVE YOU, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, MR. IF YOU DON'T MATTER, COMMISSIONER, I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT AND POINT WELL TAKEN.
I UNDERSTAND THAT, UH, BEFORE I WAS ON THE COMMISSION, UH, I WAS ATTEMPTING TO BUILD AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND IT WAS 11 0 11 16 BROAD STREET.
UH, AND THAT SAME LOT, THERE WAS ACTUALLY NOT ON A LIST.
I WORKED THROUGH THE COMMISSION TO GET THAT ON A LIST.
AND ONCE I GOT THAT ON THE LIST, THAT IS ACTUALLY PARKING FOR THAT FACILITY.
UH, SO AGAIN, I APPRECIATE YOU ACKNOWLEDGING THAT IT IS OF RIGHT TO VOTE THIS EVENING.
BUT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IN THAT RETREAT, UH, UH, UH, ACTING ED ASSISTANT MANAGER, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT RETREAT THAT WE SHOULD HAVE REALLY KEYED IN ON SO THAT NOW WHILE WE'RE GETTING HERE WITH THE PUBLIC AND SOMEONE'S ASKING US THESE QUESTIONS, WE COULD HAVE HAD THOSE ANSWERS.
BUT IT'S, I, IN MY OPINION, IF THIS, IT, IT IS NOT FAIR TO, TO, TO, TO KIND OF USE THIS GENTLEMAN AS THAT EXAMPLE TO SAY, HEY, WE NEED TO KIND OF HOLD BACK AND WE NEED TO GO LOOK AT THESE THINGS AND SEE THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
IT MAKES SENSE BASED ON WHAT'S TAKING PLACE.
HIS STORE BEHIND IT, HE HAS A RESIDENTIAL PROPERTY THAT HE RENTS BEHIND.
UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, IT IS RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE LOT.
UH, IF WE NEED TO HAVE A SPECIAL CALL MEETING SO THAT WE CAN NARROW THIS DOWN, LET'S DO THAT.
BUT WE'RE, WE'RE DEALING WITH THESE OTHER INDIVIDUAL SITUATIONS.
WE HAD THREE LAST WEEK THAT WERE KIND OF A, NOT IN THE STATUS QUO OF WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMISSION'S ABOUT.
AND WE'VE PASSED THEM AND WE'VE ALLOWED PEOPLE TO DO IT.
LET'S NOT SET THE STAGE OF KIND OF THROWING, YOU KNOW, FOR LACK OF A BETTER WORD, I DON'T KNOW, ROADBLOCK TO KIND OF SLOW SOMEONE UP ON SOMETHING THEY'RE TRYING TO DO.
AND THIS GENTLEMAN HAS BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE, UH, SEVERAL PEOPLE IN REGARDS TO THIS.
SO AGAIN, I JUST THINK IT'S, WE, WE, WE AND I BROUGHT THIS UP AND, AND, AND FOLKS GOT UPSET WITH ME.
IF WE'RE GONNA DO IT FOR ONE PERSON, WE NEED TO DO IT FOR EVERYBODY.
MR. CHAIR, I, I HAVE A COMMENT ALSO.
AND MY, UH, COMMENT IS EACH LOT HAS TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
NUMBER ONE, BASED ON THE SIZE, THE LOCATIONS CASE, THE PROXIMITY.
SO THE QUESTION I'M GOING TO ASK YOU, WHAT SIZE OF THE LOT THAT YOU HAVE AND WHAT SIZE OF THE LOT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GET, AND WITH A COMBINATION, WHAT WOULD THAT MAKE THE, UH, TOTAL SIZE? NOW? UM, I IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING.
I DON'T HAVE THAT, UH, ANSWER FOR YOU RIGHT NOW.
AM I, AM I RIGHT? IS THAT THE ONE I'M LOOKING AT? I'M, I'M GUESSING IT'S 50 FEET WIDE.
I'M GUESSING IT'S EITHER 100 OR ONE 50 DEEP.
I THINK IT'S 100 DEEP BASED ON THIS.
I THINK IT'S A HUNDRED DEEP AMOUNT.
WHAT SIDE DID THE LOT THAT YOUR, UH, TIES ON WHAT SIDE? ALL THE NEXT THREE LOTS ON THAT SAME ARE THE SAME SIZE.
THERE'S THREE LOTS GOING OR WEST, BUT THERE, YEAH, ALL OF THOSE ARE THE SAME LOTS.
SO, AND WHERE THE, UH, AVAILABILITY OF THE CHANCE OF SELLING THAT LOT.
AND I KNOW THERE ISN'T ANY STANDARDS AND I DON'T THINK THERE CAN BE ANY STANDARD FOR SELLING SEW.
SO LOTS, EACH ONE HAS TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY.
SO AS FOR SETTING UP CERTAIN STANDARDS ON THAT LOT, IT CAN'T BE, THEY GONNA HAVE TO BE ADDRESSED INDIVIDUALLY.
AND THAT'S, AND THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN OUR, IN OUR MEETING.
UM, AND AS COMMISSIONER PROCTOR SAID THAT THIS COMMISSION DOES HAVE
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CERTAIN AUTHORIZATION TO ADDRESS DIFFERENT ORDINANCES AND NOT IN A FASHION IN WHICH WE ARE NAPOLEON IN IT.AND WE MAKE IT UP AS WE GO, BUT WE DO HAVE CERTAIN AUTHORITY TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS CERTAIN ORDINANCES THAT ARE ALREADY IN PLACE.
SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS HAVE YOU TO SHARE WITH THE COMMISSION AND WITH ME SOME OF YOUR HISTORY AS IT RELATES TO JUST NOT THE FACT THAT YOU OWNED THE STORE ON THE PROPERTY, ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY.
NOT THAT THE STORE'S BEEN THERE FOR 40 YEARS, BUT WHO WAS THERE BEFORE YOU AND HOW MANY OF THEM WERE THERE BEFORE YOU AND YOUR HISTORICAL CONNECTION TO THIS PARCEL? WELL, MY GENERATIONS OF MY FAMILY BEEN RAISED RIGHT, RIGHT.
IT'S BEEN A LIFE SOURCE TO MY FAMILY.
MY FAMILY SERVED THAT COMMUNITY FOR YEARS.
I SAW MY ME, MY BROTHERS, WE ALL WORKED IN CHAPMAN'S GROCERY, UH, FRESH PRODUCE, MEATS, EVERYTHING.
AND MY FAMILY BEEN A STAPLE TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD FOR YEARS.
EVEN NOW, MY AUNT, SHE'S MANAGING THE STORE WHERE SHE'S RENTING FROM US AND SHE'S TAKEN CARE OF.
BUT MY WHOLE, MY FONDEST MEMORIES FROM DUFFY FIELD BORN AND RAISED, MY FAMILY BEEN OVER THERE EVER SINCE I'VE BEEN BORN.
AND I THANK YOU FOR, AND I STILL HAVE LAND.
MY FAMILY HAVE LAND OVER THERE AND STUFF AND EVERYTHING.
I LIVE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF TOWN, BUT NOW THAT I OWN, I WANT TO SEE DE FIELD LIKE MY GRANDPARENTS HAD IT.
I WANT THAT WHOLE CORNER FROM MECHANIC STREET TO WILLIAM STREET.
AND I WANT THAT CORNER WITH THE PROPERTY THAT I OWN AND, AND WHAT'S BEHIND ME THAT LOT.
THAT LOT BEEN, UH, A MESS FOR YEARS.
'CAUSE IT'S NEXT TO ME AND I WANT THE, THE WHOLE AREA I WENT IN, LIKE MY GRANDPARENTS HAD IT.
I THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT HISTORICAL VALUE WITH US THAT IT MEANS TO YOU AND YOUR FAMILY.
AND I ASKED YOU TO SHARE IT BECAUSE I KNOW THE HISTORY AND I'VE KNOWN THAT WHEN WE MAY NOT HAVE BEEN INVITED INTO OTHER STORES OR MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ABLE TO GO TO OTHER STORES RIGHT.
THAT THERE WAS A NEIGHBORHOOD STORE THAT WAS ALWAYS THERE AND ALWAYS WILLING AND AVAILABLE EVEN BEFORE YOU WERE BORN.
THE POLLS, THE NOBLES, THAT'S ALL I REMEMBER.
FAMILY STORES WHEN I WAS A KID AND YOU COULD STOP ANYWHERE AND GET FOOD CANDY AND IT WAS A NICE NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR SHARING.
THANK YOU MR. MR. I I, MY POINT IS, I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO BUY THE PROPERTY.
MY ONLY QUESTION, AND THIS TO THE CITY ATTORNEY, CHOOSE WE HAVE, I'LL BE URGE YOU, WE HAVE RESTRICTIONS THAT WERE PUT ON LOTS.
DO WE HAVE TO CHANGE OR, UH, MODIFIED RESTRICTIONS TO SELL HIM THIS LOT BECAUSE HE'S NOT PUTTING A HOUSE ON? HOW DOES THAT WORK? NO, SIR.
THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I WANNA CLEAR UP.
YEAH, THAT'S A, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION.
UM, BECAUSE IF WE, IF WE JUST VOTE AND SELL IT, HE'S GOTTA FOLLOW THE RESTRICTION THAT'S ON PAPER.
WELL, BUT HELP ME OUT BASED ON CERTAIN CRITERIA.
SO, UM, THIS, THIS GOES BACK TO WHAT I'M CALLING A MATRIX AS TO OKAY.
WHAT THIS COMMISSION IS GONNA REQUIRE OF EACH SPECIFIC OWNER DEPENDING ON THE FACTS.
WE GOT A LOW LOT THAT'S NOT BUILDABLE, THAT LOT'S GONNA HAVE NO RESTRICTIONS.
GOT A HIGH AND DRY LOT THAT'S BIG AND BEAUTIFUL.
PROBABLY GONNA HAVE RESTRICTIONS TO BUILD A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITHIN A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME.
THIS ONE MAY FALL IN, IN, IN THAT MIDDLE GROUND.
AND I DON'T KNOW THIS LOT MAY CHECK BOXES THAT WOULD SATISFY THE COMMISSION THAT THIS IS THE MOST APPROPRIATE SOLUTION.
I THINK WE'RE KIND OF STILL DIGGING THROUGH THE FACTS TO UNDERSTAND THAT.
UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, TO COMMISSIONER STEWART'S POINT, I I, I AM AWARE OF PRIOR LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN SOLD TO ADJOINING OWNERS.
THE ONES THAT COME TO MIND WERE REALLY NOT BUILDABLE OR NOT DESIRABLE.
AND THAT WAS THE MOST LOGICAL USE FOR THAT MM-HMM
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE NATURE OF THE BLOCK, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING ON THAT BLOCK IS ANOTHER FACTOR TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION.
AND SITTING HERE RIGHT NOW, I I I DON'T KNOW ANY OF THESE FACTS.
I JUST KNOW THE LOT SIZE MM-HMM
AND I KNOW THESE FOLKS ARE NICE AND THEY'VE GOT AN AMAZING HISTORY IN THE COMMUNITY, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T HELP YOU GET TO THESE OBJECTIVE FACTORS WITHOUT KNOWING THOSE FACTS.
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SELL IT TONIGHT WITH NO CONDITIONS.UM, YOU ARE FREE TO DELAY AND THINK ABOUT THIS AND GATHER FACTS.
UM, IT'S ENTIRELY UP TO THE COMMISSION.
I, I WOULD LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHATEVER WE DO RIGHT.
REGARDLESS OF THIS, IS TO GET OURSELVES ON A PATH ABSOLUTELY.
AND WE HAVE SOME GUIDING PRINCIPLES SO THAT WE ARE NOT JUST PICKING FAVORITES.
AND THAT'S WHAT, YOU KNOW, THE THREE OF US HAVE BEEN TRYING TO FIGURE, FIGURE OUT.
I THINK I MAY HAVE A SOLUTION FOR THAT.
UH, ONE QUESTION I WANT TO ASK YOU.
THE PARKING, WHAT PARKING SPACES OR DO YOU HAVE ANY PARKING AROUND RIGHT NOW? NO, THAT COULD BE, IT COULD BE USED FOR THAT ALSO.
THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO SEE.
IS YOUR STORE ZONE COMMERCIAL OR WHAT'S THE ZONING OF YOUR STORE? DO YOU KNOW IT RIGHT NOW? UH, NO, I DON'T.
I THINK IT'S COMMERCIAL THOUGH.
SO BASED ON THAT FACT, WHY WOULDN'T WE NOT SELL HIM THAT, UH, PARCEL BASED ON THE PARKING AREA RIGHT NOW? HE DON'T HAVE NO PARKING THAT PEOPLE PARKING ON THE STREET.
PARKING ON THE SIDE OF THE STORE.
SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE A BASE, THE BASIS FOR SELLING HIM THAT LOT FOR HIM TO ACQUIRE PARKING SPACES.
AND WE CAN'T PUT THAT IN THE SALE AGREEMENT, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.
DO YOU AGREE TO HAVE THAT AS PARKING SPACES SO THAT PEOPLE WOULD NOT HAVE TO PARK ON THE STREET SIDE, THE STORE OR IN THE STREET? YES.
I GO TO THAT JUST ABOUT EVERY DAY.
EVERY DAY THERE PEOPLE POP IN THE STREET.
TWO CARS POPPED IN FRONT OF THE STORE.
SO BASED ON THAT, WHY WOULDN'T WE SELL IT TO HIM IN ORDER TO GET SOME PARKING SPACE FOR THE COMMERCIAL STORE THAT HE HAS THERE? I MEAN, WHO IN THE WORLD WOULD OBJECT TO IT? MR. JOHN, COMMISSIONER? WELL, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU JUST ASKED, UH, LEGAL COUNSEL OVER THERE IS, UM, WE MAY ALWAYS RUN INTO THE SITUATION WHERE WE HAVE, UH, EXPLICIT LEGAL PRECEDENT FOR EVERYTHING.
BUT YOU SAID WE HAVE THE LATITUDE TO SOMETIME AMEND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SITUATIONS.
SO HAVING THE LATITUDE TO MAKE A MOTION TO SELL IT, I WOULD BE IN FAVOR BECAUSE OUR OBJECTIVES HERE IS TO DEVELOP THE COMMUNITY.
SO, LIKE I SAID, NOT ALWAYS HAVING THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE IT UP FRONT ALL THE TIME.
AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEVELOP THE COMMUNITY WITH A GENTLEMAN EARTH TO MAKE A MOVE, A POSITIVE MOVE FOR THE SAKE OF THE COMMUNITY.
THERE'S A MOTION IN FRONT OF US.
I DON'T THINK, BE WILLING TO VOTE IN THE FAVOR OF THAT.
LIKE I SAID, HIM SAYING THAT WE ARE NOT HAVING ANY OBJECTIVES LEGALLY TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS TONIGHT, I WOULD SECOND ANY MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS PROBLEM.
LIKE I SAID, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK NO ONE IS OPPOSED TO SELLING IT.
IT'S JUST THE FACT OF WHAT WE HAVE ON THE BOOKS OR THE, THE, THE, THE RULES AND GUIDELINES TO WHAT, HOW WE SELL A PROPERTY.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE SELL THIS PROPERTY TO THIS GENTLEMAN, WE HAVE THE RIGHT RESTRICTIONS ON HERE BASED ON THE PROPERTY.
UH, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S MY, THAT'S MY ONLY THING.
I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE ARE DOING IT RIGHT SO THAT UH, WHEN SOMEONE ELSE COMES BACK, I WANNA MAKE SURE YOUR RESTRICTIONS WOULD BE THE SAME AS IF I HAD TO PUT IT ON SOMEBODY ELSE BECAUSE RIGHT.
RESTRICT WE DON'T ALWAYS HAVE SOMETHING WRITTEN IN STONE.
I APPRECIATE THE VALUE OF PRECEDENCE AS MUCH AS ANYONE IN THE ROOM WILL.
AND WE HAVE SET SOMEWHAT OF A PRECEDENCE FOR THAT.
UM, WITH THAT SAID, ORGANIZATIONS CHANGE POLICIES ON A REGULAR BASIS.
THERE'S A, A THOUGHTFUL TIME WHENEVER YOU NEED TO DO THAT.
APPEARS THAT MR. CHAPMAN'S KIND OF MIDWAY IN BETWEEN THE PROCESS WHEN WE'RE DOING IT.
I DO TAKE ISSUE WITH HIM BEING IDENTIFIED AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WE'RE SAYING WE'RE GONNA STOP RIGHT NOW BECAUSE OF IT.
WHENEVER THERE WAS A WORKING GROUP READILY IDENTIFIED IN OUR LAST MEETING AND TASKED WITH EXAMINING THESE PROCESSES.
SO I I, I DON'T WANT TO WANT TO, DON'T WANNA HAVE IT BE THAT, THAT HE'S A VICTIM IN THE PROCESS AND WE'RE DECIDING RIGHT NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA CHANGE SOMETHING BECAUSE OF HIM.
THIS WAS OPENLY DISCUSSED IN OUR LAST WORKING IN OUR LAST WORK SESSION AND A GROUP IDENTIFIED.
WE'VE GOT THOSE THOUGHTS, UM, THEY'LL MAYBE REPORT ON LATER TONIGHT.
AND WE'VE GOT QUESTIONS FOR ATTORNEY DAVIS.
WITH THAT SAID, IF WE'RE GONNA LEAN ON PRECEDENCE, THEN WE NEED TO FULLY FOLLOW THE PRECEDENTS.
SO DO WE KNOW WHAT REQUIREMENTS HAVE BEEN ATTACHED TO THE PREVIOUSLY SOLD PROPERTIES THAT DID NOT HAVE BUILDING ATTACHED TO THEM? ATTORNEY DAVIS.
WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THAT YOU HAVE READILY AVAILABLE TO
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YOU? NOW? I I DON'T HAVE IT AT MY FINGERTIPS, SIR, BUT I I I DO RECALL THAT THEY HAD SOME GENERIC LANGUAGE ABOUT MAINTAINING CLEANLINESS, AVOIDING NUISANCES RIGHT.AND IT WOULD BE PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE.
AND I THINK OVERGROWN PROPERTY, NO PROPERTY.
NO STORAGE OR CARS, THAT KIND OF THING.
THAT'S CAN I, LET ME ADD A LITTLE BIT, UH, TO THIS, UM, IN THE PAST, YOU'RE CORRECT, UH, COMMISSIONER STEWART THAT WE HAVE, UH, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS, UH, SOLD, UH, LOTS ADJACENT.
AND, UH, SEVERAL OF THOSE WERE FEMA LOTS THAT WERE CITY, COUNTY PROPERTY OWNED.
UH, LOTS AT, AT ONE TIME THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS SELLING FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY.
THE, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION RECEIVED SELLABLE, BUILDABLE LOTS FROM THE CITY TO REDEVELOP TO, TO DO BUILDINGS OR WHATEVER.
YOU ALL CAN CHOOSE TO EITHER SELL IT AS A, UH, A LOT THAT YOU'RE NOT GONNA BUILD ANYTHING ON.
OR A LOT THAT IS, THAT IT IS A BUILDABLE LOT THAT YOU WANT TO SELL IT AND HAVE IT DEVELOPED.
SO IT'S NOT REALLY HAVING A PRECEDENCE OF WHAT YOU LEGALLY CAN AND CANNOT DO.
'CAUSE YOU CAN, IF YOU ALL HAVE A, A MAJORITY THAT SAYS THAT YOU WANNA SELL IT TO SOMEBODY AND, AND KEEP IT AS GREEN SPACE, YOU HAVE THAT RIGHT TO DO THAT.
OR IF YOU SAY, WELL OUR, ONE OF OUR, UM, PRIMARY GOALS AND OBJECTIVES IS TO BUILD UP THE COMMUNITY AND, AND ANY LOT THAT IS AVAILABLE TO BE ABLE TO BE BUILT ON, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO.
SO IT'S, IT'S REALLY UP TO THE YOU ALL TO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT YOU'RE GONNA, UM, SELL IT FOR THIS PURPOSE OR, OR ANOTHER PURPOSE.
ONE LAST COMMENT IF I CAN MAKE IT.
I MAKE A MOTION THAT STORE IS CONSIDERED COMMERCIAL PROPERTY NOW CONSIDERING CAN YOU BUILD A HOUSE THAT CLOSE TO COMMERCIAL PROPERTY TO DISTANCE FROM THE STORE? SO I'M SAYING HE HAD NO PARKING THE PURPOSE, SO PURPOSE THAT HE WANT THAT FOR IS TO KEEP THE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET.
HE WANT THERE FOR SAFETY ASPECT.
I THINK YOU LOOKING FOR HAVE SOME PARKING OFF THE STREET FOR THE STORE.
THE STORE IS DIRECTLY ON THE CORNER.
SO WHY WOULD WE GRANT THIS MAN SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES WITHOUT PARKING ON THE STREET THAT'S NOT WAVING THE RUG.
AND THE BOARD CAN MAKE THAT DECISION BASED ON MR. CHAPMAN HAVING THAT AS FOR NOT GREEN SPACE, BUT FOR PARKING SPACE.
WE JUST GIVING HIM SOME PARKING SPACE OFF THE STREET AND RIGHT NOW RIGHT.
HIS STORE IS IN A, IS A HAZARD THE WAY THE PEOPLE'S PARK.
SO IF HE CAN AGREE TO MAKE THAT LOT A PARKING LOT FOR HIS CUSTOMERS, I MEAN, WHY SHOULDN'T WE? OKAY.
IT TONIGHT, MR. DUB COMMISSIONER DO, IF WE VOTED TO SELL THIS PROPERTY TONIGHT, THEN THIS, UM, WOULD HAVE TO GO TO AN OPEN BID, CORRECT? YES SIR.
THEN IT WOULD HAVE TO GO TO OPEN WITH WHATEVER CONDITIONS THAT YOU APPLY OR NOT, RIGHT? MM-HMM
SO THAT BEING SAID, UM, DO YOU, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BILL ANYTHING ON THE LOT, YOU JUST WANT TO OWN THE LOT TO EXPAND YOUR PROPERTY.
SO THERE'S NO SUPER RUSH TO GET TWO TODAY VERSUS NEXT MEETING.
I'M JUST WONDERING BECAUSE IF HE'S THE ONLY ONE BIDDING ON THE PROPERTY, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF YOU ALL WANT TO LOOK INTO THE LOT TO FIND OUT THAT HE'S NOT CRIPPLED WHEN HE BUYS HIS PROPERTY.
RIGHT? NOT, I DON'T HEAR THAT ANYBODY WANTS TO STOP HIM FROM BUYING THE PROPERTY.
I HEAR THAT NO ONE WANTS HIM TO BUY THE PROPERTY AND THEN HE'S CRIPPLED FROM PUTTING A SHED ON THE PROPERTY IF YOU WANT TO OR NOT BEING ABLE TO PUT A SHED.
IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING EVERYBODY DISCUSSING? YES.
TO A CERTAIN, TO A CERTAIN DEGREE.
BUT, BUT TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT ATTORNEY, UH, ATTORNEY THERE, THERE'S, THERE'S, THERE'S NO RULE THAT WE HAVE IN PLACE CURRENTLY.
UH, LET, LET ME BE CLEAR THE REASON THAT I, I WAS HAPPY TO BE APPOINTED TO THIS COMMISSION 'CAUSE I WANT TO SEE AFFORDABLE HOUSING GOING DUFFY FIELD AND I THINK PEOPLE NEED TO BE EDUCATED ON WHAT'S TAKING PLACE.
THERE ARE THOSE INDIVIDUAL CIRCUMSTANCES AND WE DO NOT HAVE A, UM, A RULE IN PLACE THAT PROHIBITS THIS MAN FROM UH, DOING WHAT HE'S TRYING TO DO.
AND SO THERE'S THE, THERE, THERE TO WHAT, UH, COMMISSIONER DOVE IS ASKING WHETHER HE PUT A SHED UP THERE, UH, UH, WHETHER HE MADE IT A PARKING LOT.
OBVIOUSLY THAT IS ALL CONTINGENT ON WHAT THE COMMISSION, UH, THE COMMISSION ACTS IS.
BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, UH, THERE, THERE SHOULDN'T BE A REASON.
UH, QUITE FRANKLY, I'M GONNA MAKE A MOTION FOR US TO SELL THE PROPERTY TO THE GENTLEMAN IF WE DENY COOL.
BUT THERE'S NO REASON UNDER THIS CIRCUMSTANCES, UH, BASED ON THE PROPERTY THAT HE CURRENTLY OWNS, WHAT HIS INTENDED USE IS TO, TO MR. DILLA HUNT'S POINT.
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IF HE WOULD LIKE TO, UH, IF, IF MR. DILLA HUNT'S CONTINGENT IS TO PUT A PARKING LOT UP THERE, COOL.BUT, UH, THERE, THERE, IT DOESN'T SEEM THAT THERE'S A A REASON FOR US TO HOLD BACK ON ON THIS LOT UNDERSTANDING THAT IT'S ADJACENT TO HIS CURRENT PROPERTY.
THE ONLY QUESTION I HAD FOR THAT, IT'S GOING TO SERVE THE QUESTION I HAD TO, THAT WAS MM-HMM
I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR ON ANY RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE I KEEP, I KEEP GOING BACK TO THAT BECAUSE WE HAVE IT.
AND I DON'T WANNA SAY WE GONNA SELL IT TO YOU TONIGHT.
DO WE SELL IT TO YOU WITH NO RESTRICTIONS OR DO WE JUST SELL IT? 'CAUSE WE, WE GOT STUFF ON THE BOOK AND I WANNA BE CLEAR THAT WE DOING WHAT WE NEED TO DO, PROTECT OUR OFFSET AND TO PROTECT YOU.
'CAUSE I DON'T WANT, LIKE I SAID, WE DON'T WANT TO HANDICAP THE GENERAL IF HE BUYS IT AND THEN SOMETHING COMES UP AND YOU, AND YOU DIDN'T, AND THE NEW AND THE RESTRICTIONS WEREN'T EXPLAINED TO YOU, YOU SAY, I DIDN'T KNOW I COULDN'T DO THAT.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WHEN YOU BUY YES.
YOU KNOW WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO.
THAT'S ALL I, THAT'S ALL I WANNA DO.
WELL, WHAT'S PRESENTED CAN BE DONE IF HE CAN.
LET'S KIND OF GET, LET LET'S, WE GOT THREE OR FOUR ISSUES FLOATING AROUND.
SIMPLE ONE FIRST TO COMMISSIONER STEWART'S POINT.
YOU CAN AGREE TO GO FORWARD TONIGHT.
YOU CAN GO FORWARD TONIGHT WITH OR WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.
THAT IS NOT A PROBLEM WITH OR WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.
BUT WITH RESTRICTIONS WE GOTTA NAME 'EM WITH RESTRICTIONS.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER DILL HUNT'S MIND IS TRACKING JUST LIKE MINE.
I LIKE THE WAY HE'S THINKING ABOUT TRYING TO FIND SOME DISTINCTIONS MM-HMM
THAT MAKE THIS UNIQUE SO THAT WE HAVE SOME OBJECTIVE STANDARD TO SAY THIS ONE WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE OTHER.
AND THAT'S A VERY HELPFUL WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
THE PROBLEM SITTING HERE NOW, AND AGAIN, I'M GRASPING 'CAUSE I DON'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS, BUT I BELIEVE THIS LOT IS ZONED RESIDENTIAL, WHICH MEANS IT CANNOT BE USED FOR A COMMERCIAL PARKING LOT.
IT COULD NOT BE USED FOR A, AN WHAT WE WOULD CALL AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE WITHOUT A PRIMARY STRUCTURE.
A SHED IS AN ACCESSORY STRUCTURE.
YOU CAN'T BUILD A SHED ON A RESIDENTIAL LOT WITHOUT A HOUSE FIRST.
SO, SO THERE'S SOME MOVING PARTS HERE THAT, THAT I I I SIMPLY DON'T KNOW ALL THE FACTS TO BE HELPFUL.
UM, I I DO, I'M HEARING A DESIRE TO FIGURE THIS OUT AND I'M TRYING TO HELP ALL OF US FIGURE IT OUT AND FIND A WAY FORWARD.
WELL, AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER, THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING TOWARD ONE PERSON AND THAT ONE PERSON HAS ALREADY TOLD US THAT HE DOES NOT HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO LEGALLY ADVISE US PROPERLY.
BUT HE'S GIVEN US SOME OPTIONS AND UNTIL HE GETS THE INFORMATION THAT HE NEEDS, HE STILL WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ADVISE US LEGALLY OR ADVISE THIS BOARD.
WE ALREADY KNOW THE COVENANTS THAT WE'VE PUT IN PLACE.
WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE SOLD, WE KNOW WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTING TO DO, STRIVING TO DO AND WHAT THE GOAL IS.
BUT LEGALLY HE CANNOT ADVISE US UNTIL HE GETS MORE INFORMATION.
AND I UNDERSTAND COMMISSIONER DOVE'S POINT, WELL, HEY, WHY ARE WE GONNA RUSH INTO SOMETHING NOW THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK OUT OR THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BACKPEDAL FROM UNTIL WE DO GET ALL OF THE INFORMATION AND WE LEGALLY MOVE FORWARD BEFORE WE HAVE TO BACKTRACK.
WE DON'T, WE DON'T WANT TO HANDICAP THE OWNER.
WHATEVER I DO IT IS, WE DON'T, IT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE RENTAL PROPERTY AND THE STORE, WHATEVER IT IS GONNA SERVE THE PURPOSE OF THOSE PROPERTIES.
I DON'T LIVE OVER THERE NO MORE.
BUT I'M INVESTING A LOT OF MONEY OVER THERE WITH THE PROPERTIES I HAVE.
BUT, BUT BE BE ASSURED, I DON'T THINK ANY OF THE BOARD MEMBERS DON'T WANT TO SELL IT.
MY POINT, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE DOING IT SO THAT YOU WON'T HAVE RESTRICTIONS THAT YOU DON'T KNOW ABOUT OR WE GIVE YOU, WE GIVE YOURSELF, WE WILL MAINTAIN.
SO, AND I AND I THINK WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT.
UM, IT MIGHT HELP FOR ME TO GET A CONTACT NUMBER AND WE CAN HAVE A CHAT, UM, ABOUT SOME IDEAS.
A LOT OF GREAT IDEAS HAVE BEEN FLOATED HERE THAT CAN MAKE, THAT I THINK CAN MAKE THIS WORK AND HELP CHECK SOME BOXES.
BUT DID I, DID I HEAR YOU SAY, YOU SAID YOU CAN VOTE TONIGHT WITH OR WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.
SO WE VOTED TONIGHT AND SAID WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS IT'S DONE, THEN THERE'S NO RESTRICTIONS.
OR DOES THAT HAVE TO BE DONE LATER AFTER THE BID GOES PUBLIC AND IT'S FINALIZED? WE, WE GREAT QUESTION.
IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE RESTRICTIONS, WE WANT TO KNOW ON THE FRONT SIDE SO THAT THESE FOLKS UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE AND THEN ALL FUTURE BIDDERS WILL KNOW WHAT THE RESTRICTIONS ARE AS WELL.
SO IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE RESTRICTIONS, WE DO NEED 'EM TONIGHT.
BUT IF WE, SO HOW DOES IT WORK? NO RESTRICTIONS AND THEN HE CAN'T PUT A PARKING LOT S**T OR ANYTHING ELSE THERE.
SO HOW DOES IT WORK WITH THE STORE BEING COMMERCIAL AND THE PROPERTY BEING, UM, RESIDENTIAL? CAN'T HE EVEN USE IT?
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I'M I'M THINKING THE SAME.WE'RE THINKING THE SAME WAY AND, AND I'M, I'M BETTING, I DON'T KNOW, BUT I'M, I'M WONDERING IF THE STORE IS WHAT WE CALL AN EXISTING NON-CONFORMING USE.
I DON'T KNOW IF THE STORE IS ZONED COMMERCIAL.
DO YOU HAPPEN TO KNOW BY ANY CHANCE? IT'S A WEIRD THING TO KNOW.
SO I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO, UM, BUT, BUT I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF THOUGHTS TRACKING MR. DILLA HUNT'S THINKING.
DO YOU, DO YOU, UH, SINCERELY HAVE A NEED FOR SOME EXTRA PARKING FOR THE STORE? WOULD THAT BE HELPFUL TO THE STORE? THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL.
SO, SO THERE'S A VERSION THAT I CAN TALK TO PLANNING STAFF ABOUT WHETHER IT'S WORTH EXPLORING, EXTENDING A COMMERCIAL ZONE RIGHT OVER TO THAT LOT TO ENHANCE A COMMERCIAL CENTER, UM, CREATE, IMPROVE COMMERCE.
UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S LOTS OF WAYS TO GO THAT, THAT CAN MAKE A LOT OF SENSE.
WE JUST GOTTA GET SOME OF THESE FACTS TO LAND, UM, IN A WAY THAT, THAT WE CAN VERBALIZE WHAT WE'RE DOING AND THEN HAVE OPTIONS.
IT COULD BE A STORAGE SHE, FOR THE STORE, A PARKING LOT HAVE MORE THAN JUST ONE THING IN THESE STIPULATIONS THAT HE COULD DO.
IT COULD BE, AND I, I THINK I HEARD THAT THERE'S, THERE'S A RENTAL, THERE'S A, YOU OWN A RENTAL HOME THAT'S CONTIGUOUS TOUCHING THIS LOT.
SO THAT, THAT COULD CHANGE, THAT COULD TIP OUR THINKING HERE WHERE THE ACCESSORY STRUCTURE COULD SERVE THAT OTHER HOUSE.
IF YOU COMBINE THE TWO LOTS, THAT WOULD BE A WAY TO THINK ABOUT THIS.
UM, SO IT COULD BE THAT WE CAN HAVE SOME EXTRA PARKING AND THE ACCESSORY AND WE CAN CHECK A BUNCH OF BOXES.
AND THIS WOULD BE, THIS WOULD BE UNIQUE IN THAT, THAT YOU AREN'T JUST SELLING A BUILD A BUILDABLE LOT.
YOU ARE ACTUALLY ENHANCING A COMMERCIAL SPACE, MAKING IT SAFER, ET CETERA.
UM, BUT MY THOUGHT WOULD BE TO SIMPLY TABLE THIS TO NEXT MONTH.
GIVE ME A CHANCE TO MEET WITH THESE FOLKS, UM, GET OUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND, AND MAYBE FIND A PATH FORWARD.
UM, MR. CHAP, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT MEETING WITH ATTORNEY? THAT'S FINE.
AND I'M GUESSING, I SUSPECT THIS HAS BEEN HOW LONG WE HAD THIS, DO WE KNOW THIS IS, THIS IS NOT THIS, THIS IS NOT JUST COME UP, THIS LIGHT IS NOT JUST COME UP.
I BELIEVE IT, IT JUST HIT THE COMPUTER.
I DON'T THINK IT'S BEEN OUT THERE VERY LONG.
THAT'S A FACTOR THAT WE WANT TO REFLECT ON AS WELL.
BUT THIS IS KIND OF A, A NEW LOT.
CAN WE FIGURE OUT IF THIS IS ONE THAT IS REALLY BAD, IF THIS IS ONE OF THE PROPERTIES THAT LIKE WE GOT FROM THE CITY TO MARKET AND TO GET BUILT ON? LIKE, I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT IT'S JUST ONE OF THE FACTORS.
SO WE DID GET IT FROM, I, I WAS LOOKING INTO IT LAST YEAR.
UM, AND THAT AND THE FLOOD ZONE, SOMEBODY MENTIONED AT SOME POINT IT'S IN A FLOOD ZONE, WHICH IS SORT OF ONE OF THOSE OBJECTIVE FACTORS THAT MAY FAVOR.
SO WHEN WE'RE DOING THE BALANCE OF, YOU KNOW, THE FACTS LIKE THAT, IF IT'S IN A FLOOD ZONE FOR SURE, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW IF IT WAS GIVEN TO THE RDC TO HAVE SOLD AND BUILT ON.
JUST I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW THAT AS A FACT.
UM, I, I, I'VE GOT, I'VE GOT DIRECTION FROM THE COMMISSION, UM, I'VE GOT CONTACT INFORMATION.
I'LL REACH OUT TO YOU FOLKS TOMORROW.
I WILL GET WITH PLANNING STAFF AND THEN I, AND THEN NEXT MONTH I CAN REPORT ALL THE POSSIBLE OPTIONS AND YOU'LL BE IN A POSITION TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD WITH NO CONDITIONS OR WHATEVER CONDITIONS YOU WOULD LIKE.
AND, AND BE ASSURED, I THINK EVERYBODY ON THE BOARD WANTS YOU TO HAVE IT.
WE JUST WANT TO CLEAR, CLARIFY WHAT WE GOT ON THE PAPER.
AND DON'T, LIKE I SAID, BOTTOM THE LINE.
WE DON'T WANT TO HANDICAP YOU SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD THOUGH.
SO I GUESS YOU WOULD NEED A MOTION TO, UH, POSTPONE TO THE NEXT MEETING.
SO JUST A CHAPTER TO MAKE A PLAN OR DRAW A PLAN OUT.
WE CAN MAKE A DECISION AT THE NEXT BOARD MEETING.
SO I'M MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE THIS UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING MOTION MAY TABLE IT AND SECOND I.
WE'VE BEEN MOVED AND PROBABLY SECONDED THIS, DISCUSSING THIS PRE THIS SALE OF, UH, UPSET BID PROCESS.
EVENTUALLY THAT'S WHAT IT'LL COME TO.
IT'S POSTPONE TO OUR NEXT MEETING IN, UH, MARCH.
THANK YOU ATTORNEY FOR HELPING US OUT WITH THAT.
IF YOU GOT QUESTIONS DURING THIS PROCESS, YOU'RE TALKING TO THE CITY ATTORNEY.
SO WE JUST WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING MARCH.
WHAT, WHAT? UM, IT'S MARCH THE 11TH.
I'LL, I'LL, I'LL GET BACK IN TOUCH YOU SIR.
MARCH THE 11TH, THE CITY, THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MAYOR WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH YOU.
AND YOU EXPLAIN THE BOARD HAVE SOMETHING TO DO WITH WE DON'T HAVE ANY AL ATTORNEYS GONNA TAKE CARE OF THAT.
YEAH, I'LL REACH OUT, WE'LL TALK TOMORROW.
AND, UM, AND I'LL REPORT BACK WITH ALL OF OUR OPTIONS.
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WE'RE ALL GONNA BE ON THE SAME PAGE.UM, AND, AND IF WE THINK, UH, THAT A RE IF IF, IF WE THINK A REZONINGS APPROPRIATE AND STAFF WOULD SUPPORT IT, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER ISSUE.
THAT MAY DELAY THINGS A LITTLE BIT, BUT THAT'S TO YOUR BENEFIT.
IS THERE SOMETHING THAT Y'ALL NEED TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE PROPERTY OR NO, I CAN GET THAT.
I CAN GET ALL THAT FROM YOU TOMORROW ON THE PHONE.
YES, THERE'S SOMETHING THAT, UH, I THINK NEEDS TO BE KNOWN ABOUT THE PROPERTY.
THAT'S WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT.
UM, ATTORNEY DAVIS, I HATE TO KEEP PUTTING YOU ON THE SPOTLIGHT.
WOULD IT BE ADVISABLE FOR US AS A BOARD SINCE WE ARE REEVALUATING OUR, OUR POLICIES AND PRACTICES ON DISPOSING OF PROPERTIES TO MAKE A REQUEST OF CITY STAFF TO NOT BRING ANY MORE OFFERS TO PURCHASE FORWARD IN THE PERIOD WHILE WE WERE REEVALUATING THINGS SO WE DON'T WIND UP? YES.
Y YOUR QUESTION IS TRACKING WHAT I'M THINKING AND WHAT MARVIN AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON FOR, FOR, UH, A WEEK OR SO.
UM, UM, TO, TO AVOID THE, THE ISSUE THAT THAT COMMISSIONER, UH, STEWART HAS RAISED.
UH, TAPPING THE BRAKES MAY BE HELPFUL, AND I DON'T MEAN FOR M ON END, BUT RIGHT.
WE JUST DON'T WANT ANYONE TO, TO, TO MISUNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE TRYING TO BAKE A CAKE THAT IS FAIR AND OBJECTIVE AND WE'LL SERVE EVERYONE.
AND I WOULD HATE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO POP UP AND FEEL LIKE THEY'VE NOT BEEN TREATED FAIRLY BECAUSE WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF BAKING THE CAKE.
NOW, I THINK BY NEXT MEETING WE'LL HAVE, WE'LL BE IN A POSITION TO TALK ABOUT WHAT I'M CALLING A MATRIX SO THAT YOU'LL HAVE SOME DIRECTION GOING FORWARD.
SO MAYBE WE JUST INFORMALLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE VERY CLOSE AND MAYBE NEXT MEETING THIS BOARD CAN FINALIZE THOSE CRITERIA SO THAT YOU CAN MAKE THESE DECISIONS EASIER.
[7.a. Approve and Sign Contract for Purchase of Bloomfield Property ]
OKAY.WE HAVE, UH, THE BLOOMFIELD PROPERTY, THE, BASICALLY WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, UH, WE'RE GONNA GET THE, UM, THE CHAIR TO SIGN OFF ON THE CONTRACT AND THEN THE ATTORNEY WILL, WILL, UM, DO UP THE PAPERWORK AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE SELLING OF THAT PROPERTY.
UH, THE OTHER, UH, NEW BUSINESS IS THE PROPERTY INSURANCE.
WE'VE RECEIVED THE PROPOSAL FOR, UH, THE NEW, UH, PROPERTY, UH, INSURANCE.
UH, THE ONE THAT WE CURRENTLY, THAT WE JUST HAD, I BELIEVE IT EXPIRED ON FEBRUARY 7TH.
IT WAS IN THE PACKAGE THAT I SENT TO YOU ALL.
AND THE PROPOSAL THERE WAS NOT A, A COST CHANGE.
SO IT'S UP TO THE BOARD IF THEY WANT TO CONTINUE WITH THAT PROPERTY INSURANCE.
UM, WE CAN, UM, THE BOARD CAN MAKE THAT DECISION AND, AND THE STAFF WOULD, UM, MOVE FORWARD.
WE, UH, REINSURING THE PROPERTIES THAT WE, UH, THAT, THAT THE, THE BOARD ONS.
I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT A UNDERSTANDING THAT WE VOTED ON THAT LAST MEETING.
UM, SO, AND I, AND I THINK IT KIND OF TOUCHES ON WHAT JUST KIND OF HAPPENED, AND I THINK THIS WAS KIND OF THE CONCERN THAT I HAD.
UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS IS A PUBLIC MEETING, THIS AIRED.
I, I, I RECEIVED A CALL FROM, UH, ONE A CITY EMPLOYEE AND TWO, JUST A CONVERSATION IN, IN THE PUBLIC.
AND I THINK THE CONCERN WAS THAT THIS BOARD, AGAIN, AND I DON'T WANT TO BE RETROACTIVE, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GONNA COME UP AGAIN.
AND I THINK IT, IT WAS MENTIONED IN THE LAST MEETING, WE HAD A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THE GENTLEMAN OR THE GROUP THAT BROUGHT THIS BLOOMFIELD PROPERTY.
AND BECAUSE THAT PERSON, AND I VOTED FOR IT, LET'S BE CLEAR, UH, WITHOUT ALL THE KNOWLEDGE THAT I SHOULD HAVE HAD, AND I THINK THE ONLY PERSON THAT DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT WAS, UH, COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.
WE HAD A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT, WE SOLD THE PROPERTY TO SOMEONE.
THEY DID NOT DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE OR WAS MISLED, BUT BIGGER POINT, THEY DID NOT DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE AND WE RETROACTIVE THAT LEGAL DOCUMENT.
I I, I JUST THINK THAT WE GOTTA REALLY BE CAREFUL ON HOW WE'RE OPERATING AND HOW THINGS ARE GOING BECAUSE THERE ARE GONNA BE OTHER ISSUES LIKE THAT, THAT ARE GOING TO COME UP.
AND AGAIN, IF I HAD HAD THE HISTORY, WHICH IS MY FAULT, I UNDERSTOOD HOW IT WAS PRESENTED, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S THE PERSON THAT'S BUYING THE PROPERTY'S JOB TO DO THEIR DUE DILIGENCE BEFORE MAKING THE PURCHASE.
SO WE SET UP HERE AND WE VOTED MYSELF INCLUDED, TO RETRO ACT AND GIVE THIS PERSON THEIR MONEY BACK AFTER THEY HAD A LEGAL AGREEMENT TO PURCHASE THE PROPERTY.
I JUST THINK WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA REALLY, REALLY
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EVALUATE HOW THAT'S HAPPENING.AND I, AND I AND I AND I, I, THAT, THAT'S JUST, THAT WAS VERY CONCERNING TO ME.
THE WAY IT WAS BROUGHT TO ME, UNDERSTANDING I WAS SITTING IN THE SEAT AND HAD THE VOTE AS WELL.
UM, THAT JUST, THAT JUST IS CONCERNING.
UM, COMM COMMISSIONER, I'M GONNA SAY ONE THING THAT IS ANOTHER ITEM WE TALKED ABOUT IN OUR MEETING LAST WEEK.
THE THREE OF US HAVE BEEN TALKING THE SAME ISSUE THAT'S COMING UP HERE TONIGHT.
WE'VE ALREADY GOT IT ON PAPER TO DISCUSS AND TRYING TO COME UP WITH SOME SOLUTIONS.
SO YOU WILL GET MORE INFORMATION FROM US AS WE FINALIZE SOME IDEAS THAT WE PUT OUT THERE.
WE'RE, WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.
UM, YEAH, COMMISSIONER STEWART'S READING MY MINDS.
UM, AND MARVIN'S PREPARED ACTUALLY TONIGHT TO TALK THROUGH A PROCEDURE TO ADDRESS THAT QUESTION, SO, OKAY.
I'M NOT SURE IT'S GONNA BE NEXT OR ON THE AGENDA LATER, BUT WE'RE GONNA HIT THAT ISSUE.
AND I WOULD JUST SAY IN THAT SAME VEIN, THAT'S KIND OF THE REASON LIKE AS I CAME ON THIS YOU ARE, YOU'RE ALREADY ON FOR NEXT.
WELL I'M JUST KIND OF RESPONDING TO THAT.
I CAME ON THIS AS A, YOU KNOW, I'M A, I'M, I WORK IN CORPORATE AMERICA, SO EVERYTHING GOES FAST.
WE HAVE ACCESS TO FACTS QUICKLY.
WE ANALYZE EVERYTHING QUICKLY, WE MOVE THINGS QUICKLY.
'CAUSE THERE'S A WHOLE, THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY AND NOT A LOT OF PROCESSES INVOLVED.
SO WHEN I GOT ON THIS BOARD, IT, YOU KNOW, IT'S GOVERNMENT, IT'S, EVERYTHING'S SLOWER.
EVERYTHING TAKES MORE MONTHS THAN YOU'D LIKE TO.
BUT THAT BLOOMFIELD DISCUSSION THAT HAPPENED LAST WEEK THAT I ALSO VOTED FOR WITHOUT FULL FACTS, REMINDED ME OF SHARON'S IN MY FIRST MEETING OF WHAT HAPPENED WITH THE, UM, NINE 11 EUBANKS PROPERTY WHERE WE WERE GIVEN BAD FACTS AND WE VOTED BASED ON BAD FACTS AND WE RUSHED IT AND DID IT QUICKLY.
THAT MEETING, 'CAUSE IT HAD, YOU KNOW, IT WAS, HAD BEEN BROUGHT TO US A MONTH BEFORE WE FELT PRESSURE TO MAKE A DECISION.
SO THAT, TO ME, IT'S LIKE A CAUTIONARY TALE.
AND THAT'S PART OF THE REASON TONIGHT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF US WANTED TO LIKE RUSH THROUGH A BOAT ON SELLING THIS PARKING LOT IS SELLING THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY FOR A PARKING LOT.
LIKE WHAT IF WE HAD SOLD IT TONIGHT WITHOUT DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE, WE STILL MIGHT VERY WELL SELL IT, BUT, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT DOING OUR DUE DILIGENCE SO THAT, IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS I HAD TO LEARN IS LIKE, YOU, YOU HAVE TO LIKE SLOW YOUR ROLL A LITTLE.
I, I WOULD LOVE THIS TO GO FASTER.
UM, BUT, BUT I NEED TO KNOW ALL THE FACTS.
AND SO THAT, IT JUST KIND OF REMINDED ME OF THAT, IT'S LIKE WE, WE HAVE A STAIN ABOUT NINE 11, YOU KNOW, ON OUR REPUTATION BECAUSE NINE 11 EUBANKS, BUT THAT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN THE CASE.
WE WERE GIVEN BAD FACTS AT THE MEETING AND WE ACTED ON THE FACTS WE HAD AND THOUGHT, YOU KNOW, RAH RAH THOUGHT WE WERE DOING A GREAT THING, GETTING, GETTING A HOUSE, A GREAT HOUSE FOR THE COMMUNITY.
UM, AND IT, AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, IT ENDED UP LIKE THERE'S IT, IT IS A GREAT HOUSE.
IT HAS A LIEN ON IT FOR 20 YEARS, BUT YOU KNOW, IT IS WHAT IT IS.
BUT THAT, ANYWAY, JUST KIND OF A CAUTIONARY TALE FOR ME.
SO I DON'T, UM, I THINK WE NEED TO DO THE PROPERTY INSURANCE RENEWAL.
DO YOU WANT TO GO AHEAD AND DO THAT OR BEFORE, BEFORE WE GO THERE, I WANT TO HELP YOU ALL.
Y'ALL FEEL GOOD BECAUSE IF Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT MEETING, WE, THE CITY DID MAKE SOME TYPE OF CONCESSIONS TO THAT PERSON THAT BOUGHT THAT PROPERTY.
WE TOLD THEM SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULDN'T HAVE.
I DON'T REMEMBER EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE TOLD THEM THAT REMOVED THAT FACT THAT THEY NEEDED TO DO DUE DILIGENCE.
AND THE TERMINOLOGY IN THAT CONTRACT STATED, UM, WHATEVER IT STATED SOMETHING THAT WHEN I LOOKED UP THE WORD, AND I KNOW YOU WERE ATTORNEY, BUT IT SAID THAT WE HAD TO MAKE THAT PERSON WHOLE IF IT WAS NOT THEIR FAULT, WE HAD TO MAKE 'EM WHOLE.
SO FROM WHAT I LOOKED AT, BUT YOU ARE ATTORNEY NOT ME, SO YOU KNOW MORE THAN ME, BUT WE DID DO WHAT WE WERE SUPPOSED TO DO EVEN IF WE DIDN'T WANT TO AT THAT TIME BECAUSE IT WAS SOMEBODY WITHIN THE BOARD THAT ASSURED THAT PERSON THAT THAT PROPERTY WAS GOOD OR, OR IT WAS WHAT IT WAS.
IF YOU ALL, WE WERE ALL THERE YARD, NO, I DON'T REMEMBER SPECIFICALLY THE STATEMENT, SIR.
BUT HE WAS GIVEN BAD INFORMATION AND IT HAPPENS SOMETIME, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE DON'T WANNA HURT PEOPLE EITHER.
SO I MEAN, IT SITS WELL WITH ME THAT WE ALLOW THE PERSON TO GET A REFUND.
WE JUST WON'T MAKE THOSE MISTAKES IN THE FUTURE.
ALRIGHT, LET'S, LET'S GET BACK ON TASK HERE.
[7.b. Consider Approving Renewal of Property Insurance ]
CONSIDER APPRO RENEWAL OF PROPERTY INSURANCE.MY ONLY QUESTION IS, IS THE LIST UPDATED? I, I ASSUME SO.
UH, THERE, THERE THERE'S LIKE THE BLOOMFIELD PROPERTY AND THERE'S PROBABLY ONE OR TWO OTHER PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THERE THAT HAVEN'T BEEN TAKEN OFF, BUT ONE UPON APPROVAL THAT THAT LIST WILL BE CORRECTED BEFORE, UH, IT BRINGS TO YOU, BROUGHT BACK TO YOU ALL FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THERE.
SO I KNOW FOR INSTANCE, THE THREE OR FOUR PROPERTIES THAT WERE ARE HEADED TO THE UPSET BID FROM LAST, UH, LAST BOARD ARE STILL ON THERE.
SO THERE ARE PROPERTIES THAT ARE ON THERE THAT WILL, THAT, THAT THEY WANT IN,
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THAT WON'T BE INSURED BY THE COMPANY.UH, BUT THE PRO UH, THE PROPOSAL WILL REMAIN THE SAME SO THEY WON'T CHANGE.
SO I SEE LIKE NINE 11 EUBANKS THIS HERE AS VACANT LAND, WHICH IT PROBABLY WAS, YOU KNOW, TWO YEARS AGO WHEN WE FIRST DID THIS.
AND IT LOOKS LIKE WE'VE JUST BEEN CARRYING FORWARD THE SAME SCHEDULE.
SO I THINK I, I'D BE CURIOUS IF WE HAVE MORE OR LESS, LIKE WHY WOULDN'T THE AMOUNT CHANGE A LITTLE BIT BASED ON, BASED ON HAVING, YOU KNOW, FIVE OR SIX FEWER PROPERTIES, BUT MAYBE WE HAVE MORE.
I JUST, I'D JUST LIKE TO KNOW THE LIST AND KIND OF THE FINAL QUOTE BASED ON THAT.
UM, AND IS IT, IS IT ALL, I THINK WE'RE, IT'S ALL JUST VACANT LAND NOW THAT WE'RE LIKE, WE DON'T OWN ANY HOUSES ANYMORE, HAVE WE? I'M ASKING.
I'M NOT AWARE OF US LIKE TRYING TO MARKET A HOUSE RIGHT NOW.
AND I DON'T THINK THERE ARE ANY PROPERTIES WITH, AND AND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS A LOT LONGER THAN I HAVE.
SO, SO TO BE PERFECTLY HONEST, I I I PULLED THE SAME, UH, PAPERWORK THAT YOU ALL HAD APPROVED FROM PREVIOUS, UM, LAST YEAR BECAUSE THIS LAST YEAR WAS THE FIRST YEAR THAT YOU ALL HAD INSURED THE PROPERTY.
AND UM, SO THIS YEAR WAS JUST THE, UM, INSURED, UH, CAME FORWARD AND SAID, HEY, I, I WOULD RENEW YOUR, UH, PROPOSAL FOR THE EXACT SAME THING THAT YOU DID LAST YEAR.
SO I CAN READDRESS THAT WITH, UH, THE PERSON AND BRING A NEW PROPOSAL.
BUT KNOWING WHAT THEY'RE DOING, I THINK THEY'RE, THEY'RE LOOKING OUT FOR US IN A SENSE THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THERE'S GONNA BE ANY MORE SAVINGS THAN WHAT YOU ALREADY HAVE ON HERE.
BUT I, I CAN GET A NEW, WE CAN SCRUB UP THE LIST, MAKE SURE EVERY, UH, PROPERTY IS CORRECT, AND THEN, UH, GET A NEW PROPOSAL FOR IT.
I MEAN, AND THAT DEFINITELY WHATEVER OTHER PEOPLE THINK.
I JUST, TO ME, I NOTICED NINE 11 YOU BANK'S ON THE LIST WITH AS A VACANT LOT.
SO I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE, IS THIS BEEN UPDATED? BUT, BUT REST ASSURED, RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY IS NOT COVERED BECAUSE THE CONTRACT THAT YOU PREVIOUSLY HAD ENDED, I, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS THE SEVENTH OF THIS MONTH.
UM, IF WE'RE GONNA WAIT TILL A MONTH FROM NOW TO DO THIS AGAIN FOR THE NEXT MONTH, YOUR PROPERTY'S NOT INSURED.
AND MAYBE WE DON'T NEED TO DO THAT.
MAYBE WE VOTE TO DO THIS AND THEN JUST CLEAN IT UP.
LIKE, NORMALLY, NORMALLY THESE THINGS AUTO-RENEW.
I'M NOT USED TO, I JUST GET PAPERWORK AND THEY TAKE MONEY INTO MY ACCOUNT.
SO I'M NOT USED TO HAVING TO AFFIRMATIVELY KEEP UP WITH IT.
BUT I MEAN, I THINK IT WOULD BE FINE TO SAY YES, LET'S INSURE THE PROPERTIES, BUT LET'S GET THE LIST CLEANED UP.
I, I'M REASONABLY CERTAIN THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTIONS.
THIS IS A BROAD COMMERCIAL GENERAL LIABILITY, GENERAL LIABILITY POLICY, NOT SO MUCH ATTACHED TO INDIVIDUAL PROPERTIES.
IT'S BASICALLY APPEARS TO BE EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE DOING AND ALL EVERYTHING WE HOLD.
'CAUSE I SEE REFERENCES TO ALL, TO ALL PRODUCTS AND COMPLETED OPERATIONS ON THE BACK END OF IT.
SO, SO LIKE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
SO THE LIST DOESN'T POTENTIALLY MATTER AS MUCH.
LIKE IF WE DON'T UPDATE THE LIST IMMEDIATELY, THEN IT'S NOT OKAY.
THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY I'M READING IT.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, RENEW PROPERTY INSURANCE.
SO MOVED SECOND MOVING PROPERTY SECOND, UH, TO, UH, APPROVE RENEW OF PROPERTY INSURANCE.
ANY QUESTIONS? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
[7.c. Workgroup Reports ]
COMMISSION.UM, SO I'VE TALKED ENOUGH TONIGHT, UH, AND WE'VE, YOU GOING END UP REVIEWING, WE'VE TALKED, UM, WE'VE TALKED QUITE A BIT ABOUT OUR, UM, MEETING, YOU KNOW, REGARDING THE CLARIFYING THE PURCHASING CONDITIONS.
UM, CITY ATTORNEY, WE WOULD LIKE TO, UM, ALSO HERE, I KNOW YOUR FACT FINDING ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY, UM, BUT WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, LIKE TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AS WELL, JUST KIND OF ON, I THINK OUR GENERAL SET OF RESTRICTIONS THAT WE HAVE.
WE HAD A FEW CLARIFYING POINTS THAT IT MIGHT MAKE SENSE TO MAKE.
UM, AND THEN ALSO, UM, UM, WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT ONE OR TWO MORE.
LIKE CERTAIN COUNTIES AND STATES DO, LIKE IN THEIR REVERSION CLAUSE THEY SAY LIKE, YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR, YOU CAN'T RESELL IT FOR PROFIT.
THERE'S CERTAIN, SO, SO WE BOUNCE THOSE THINGS AROUND, BUT WE'RE A LITTLE BIT HESITANT TO JUST, YOU KNOW, TELL THE BOARD TO ENACT THOSE.
SO WE WOULD LIKE TO TALK TO SOMEONE WHO KNOWS THAT AREA.
UM, SO THAT'S REALLY, SO, SO THE DISCUSSIONS ARE ONGOING.
UM, AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I NEED TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE.
I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE UPDATE.
I THINK MR. DOUG, YEAH, I WAS TASKED, ME AND KIRK CAME TOGETHER FOR, UM, TO BE A PART OF THE MARKETING, THE PR TEAM.
WE CAME UP WITH THIS, I WOULD CALL THIS FROM FRAMEWORK FOR US ALL TO TAKE A LOOK AT.
YOU SEE THAT THE MISSION WOULD BE TO TRANSFORM NEW BURN COMMUNITIES THROUGH OUR STRATEGIC REDEVELOPMENT
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AND HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE, PUBLIC HEALTH, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BY USING TRANSPARENCY, ENGAGEMENT AND PARTNERSHIPS.IN OUR RETREAT WE SPOKE ABOUT, I THINK IT CAME UP THAT WE ARE NOT, UM, VISIBLE ENOUGH OR SOME PEOPLE FELT THAT WE WEREN'T VISIBLE ENOUGH IN THE COMMUNITY.
SO WE, I THINK I BROUGHT UP THE FACT THAT WE NEED TO FIND WAYS TO MARKET OURSELVES AT A DIFFERENT LEVEL.
SOME PHONES THAT WE CAN GO BY.
IT'S SOMETHING THAT WILL HAVE TO ULTIMATELY BE AGREED UPON BY US ALL THEN IMPLEMENTED ONCE WE DO GET AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IN, UM, I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR SOME FEEDBACK ON IT.
IT MAY BE TOO BIG OF A FEAT, BUT IT WOULD, UM, ALSO HAVE PERFORMANCE INDICATION TRACKERS AND JUST EXPLAIN SOME OF THOSE SUCH AS A QUARTERLY ENGAGEMENT EVENTS.
UM, FOR PR PURPOSES, THIS WOULD BE A SITUATION WHERE WE WOULD TRY TO PARTNER UP WITH, UM, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WE HAVE LOCAL PODCASTS, WEBSITES THAT GET A LOT OF TRACTION.
WE HAD WCTI, WE WOULD TRY TO FIND SOME TYPE OF AGREEMENT IF THEY WERE TO BUY INTO THE MISSION THAT WE HAD, WHERE THEY WOULD JUST CASUALLY MENTION OUR NAME, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION OF NEW BERN, YOU KNOW, JUST TO GIVE US SOME TYPE OF VISIBILITY AND TO JUST LIKE MEDIA DOES, IT GETS PEOPLE'S MIND SET ON SOMETHING AND IT GETS THEM TO BE INTRIGUED ABOUT SOMETHING.
IT MAKES THEM WANT TO LOOK INTO WHAT ARE THEY DOING SO THAT WAY WE CAN BRING MORE PEOPLE TO OUR WEBSITE AND TO INQUIRE ABOUT THESE PROPERTIES AT A LARGER SCALE THAN WE ARE DOING AT THIS POINT.
TO HOPEFULLY MOVE THESE LOTS AND GET MORE FROM THE CITY.
UM, AND WHEN ME AND KURT WAS TALKING, HE GAVE, HE TOLD ME A STORY THAT REALLY KIND OF HIT, HIT HOME.
HE SAID, AT THE END OF THE DAY, VIC, ALL I WANT IS FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK HOME.
I THINK WE SAID COME BACK TO THE FREEDOM.
NO, YOU DIDN'T SAY, HE SAID TO COME BACK HOME.
AND THAT'S WHY YOU'LL SEE WE ALSO DUBBED THIS TO COME BACK HOME.
UM, IT IS A VISION AND IF THIS IS IMPLEMENTED OR APPROVED UPON, THAT WOULD BE LIKE THE GUIDING VISION OF THIS WHOLE, THIS WHOLE PR PLAN THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER.
EVERYBODY WOULD HAVE, HAVE IN OUR MINDS THAT OUR GOAL IS FOR PEOPLE TO COME BACK HOME.
HE BROUGHT UP A STORE THAT WE ALL KNOW SOMEBODY THAT WAS DISPLACED FROM DUE TO THE HURRICANE.
BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE HURRICANE.
THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT ALLOW PEOPLE TO BE DISPLACED, BUT WE CAN SELL PEOPLE ON THE VISION.
BUT ALSO I BELIEVE, I, I HAVE A VISION AND YOU ALL MIGHT NEED TO REEL ME BACK IN BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY MY SECOND MEETING AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE WHAT WE DO, BUT IN MY MIND RIGHT NOW, NOT KNOWING EVERYTHING, REDEVELOPING IS NOT JUST IN PROPERTIES, IT'S ALSO REDEVELOPING MINDSETS.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN PUT ON SEMINARS, HOUSE, HOME OWNER SEMINARS, LOAN SEMINARS.
SO NOW WE ARE BUILDING A BASE SO WE CAN TRY TO CREATE HOMEOWNERS AND NOT JUST HOMES TO BE RENTED.
BECAUSE MY, MY MY THING IS FOR US TO BE A HOMEOWNERS IN THE COMMUNITY, IN THE REVITALIZATION ZONE, AND NOT JUST DEVELOPERS THAT COULD BUY LOTS OF PROPERTIES AND RENT THESE PROPERTIES OUT.
YOU TAKE THIS SHEET HOME, LOOK OVER, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, YOU CONTACT ME AND KURT, WE COULD EXPLAIN IT TO YOU FULLY AND AT A LATER MEETING, WHAT PARTS OF IT THAT WE CAN IMPLEMENT WE CAN AGREE UPON AND WE'LL MOVE FORWARD ON IT TOGETHER.
I, I THINK ONE OTHER, I THINK ONE OTHER THING TOO, UH, COMMISSIONER DOVE THAT'S IMPORTANT RIGHT NOW IS WITH US EXPECTING TO HAVE A NEW EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.
A LOT OF TIMES WHEN NEW PEOPLE COME IN TO A POSITION, THEY'RE GONNA SAY, WHAT, WHAT DO YOU ALL WANT? WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON? THIS IS THE BEGINNING.
THIS, THIS BEGINNING WITH US WORKING ON WHAT WE'RE SELLING, NOT SELLING.
SO THOSE THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON NOW THAT WE'VE BEEN FORCED TO DO, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE RUN SOME ROADBLOCKS AND COME SOME THINGS WE HAVEN'T DONE BEFORE.
AND WE ARE ON IN A POSITION NOW TO HAVE SOME THINGS IN PLACE IN TERMS ON PAPER TO GIVE TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THEM TO TAKE THE LEAD AND KNOW.
SO WHEN HE ASK THE QUESTION, WHAT DO YOU WANT? WE GOT STUFF GOING.
SO I TAKE IT YOU, YOU LIKE WHAT YOU SEE? YES SIR.
WELL I WANT TO, THANKS FOR WORKING WITH WHI KIRK.
WE WORK, PUT IT TOGETHER AND JUST APPRECIATE YOU ALL.
CAN, CAN I GO, UH, GO BACK FOR JUST A MOMENT WITH THE PROPERTY SALES.
THAT FIRST THING THAT I I HANDED OUT WAS JUST, UH, WE, UM, WAS THE NORMAL, UM, ONLINE WHERE WE HAVE OUR PROTOCOL FOR PURCHASING PROPERTY OWNED BY THE RDC AND JUST
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MADE A FEW REVISIONS TO IT FOR YOU ALL TO REVIEW AND MAKE WHATEVER CHANGES IT'S IN LINE WITH WHAT SORT OF WHAT WE WERE SPEAKING ABOUT.UH, ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO UPSET BIDDING ON PROPERTIES, MEANING RIGHT NOW, UH, IF SOMEONE WERE TO SAY, FOR INSTANCE, TONIGHT IF WE'VE SOLD THEIR PROPERTY WITH NO RESTRICTIONS, SOMEONE ELSE COULD HAVE COME AND UPSET IT FOR WITH NO RESTRICTIONS AND THEY COULD HAVE BUILT WHATEVER AND THEY WOULD'VE, AND YOU WOULD HAVE SET THAT STANDARD.
SO HOWEVER MUCH THEY WOULD'VE PAID FOR IT UP TO THE FULL TAX VALUE, THEY WOULD'VE GOTTEN THEIR PROPERTY, COULD'VE DONE ANYTHING WITH IT.
SO WHAT IF YOU ESTABLISH A, WHAT THIS IS TRYING TO DO, IF YOU ESTABLISH, UM, RESTRICTIONS OR COVENANTS ON A LOT FOR, UH, WHAT, FOR YOUR APPROVAL, ANYONE WHO COMES TO UPSET IT WOULD HAVE TO UPSET IT, ASKING TO DO THE SAME EXACT, THAT'S WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT, BILL, THAT YOU HAVE, LIKE YOU SAY, A SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
IF SOMEONE COMES AND UPSET BID, THAT'S WHAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO PUT ON THERE.
THEY COULDN'T COME AND GET IT AND SAY, HEY, I WANNA USE IT FOR GREEN SPACE OR, OR PARKING LOT OR WHATEVER.
SO WHATEVER RESTRICTIONS ON THE FIRST ONE GOES TO THE NEXT PERSON.
IT GOES THROUGH WHOEVER UPSET IT, IT HAS A STATE WITH WHATEVER YOU APPROVE.
'CAUSE ONCE YOU APPROVE IT, YOU'RE SAYING, WE AGREED IF THIS PIECE OF PROPERTY, WHAT THE PRODUCT THAT YOU'RE GONNA PUT ON HERE, WE ACCEPT IT FOR OUR, UH, GOALS AND OBJECTIVES.
AND THEN IF SOMEONE COMES AND UPSETS IT, THEY'RE GONNA DO THE SAME THING.
BUT YOU JUST GET MORE MONEY FOR THE SAME PRODUCT.
SO TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND, AND GET IN CONTACT WITH ME AND, AND WE CAN CONTINUE TO MASSAGE IT.
CAN I JUST ASK A QUESTION ON THAT? YES.
SO IS THAT THE SEVEN IS THE ONLY UPDATE TO KIND OF OUR CURRENT, 'CAUSE I KNOW WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO IS BASED LARGELY A LOT ON WHAT THE CITY DOES, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THE PROCESS FOR A UPSET BIDS.
SO IS SEVEN THE ONLY NEW THING HERE? THAT WAS, UH, YEAH, THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH THE MAIN THING.
UH, ONCE YOU GET TO THE UPSET BID PART, EVERYTHING ELSE PRETTY MUCH STAYED IN LINE WITH WHAT THE ORIGINAL, UH, PROPOSAL WAS.
AND SO WE'LL WANT TO LIKE ADOPT THIS AS OUR, LIKE ONCE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE CONSIDERED IT WHATEVER WE'LL WANT, WE'LL WANT TO ADOPT IT AS OUR OFFICIAL POLICY AND LIKE UPDATE WHAT'S ON THE WEBSITE.
AND I'M PREPARING FORMS FOR YOU FOR THE CITY CLERK AS WELL.
'CAUSE WHAT'S HAPPENED, AND IT MAKES SENSE, IS THAT THE CITY CLERK IS ACCUSTOMED TO THE CITY PROCESS FOR SELLING SURPLUS PROPERTY.
AND WHAT WE'VE TRIED TO DO, EXCUSE ME, IS TAKE THAT PROCESS, BLEND IN THIS PROCESS AND THEY MERGE IN THE FIFTH ENDING, WHICH IS CONFUSING.
SO THIS SETS THE STAGE SO THAT WHEN THE CLERK GETS A CALL FOR YOUR PROPERTY, THAT PERSON STARTS ON THE FIRST ENDING, UNDERSTANDING THE PATH THAT'S GONNA BE UNIQUE TO THIS COMMISSION SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A PROCESS TO JUST LIKE TONIGHT, ARE THERE GONNA BE CONDITIONED? IF SO, WHAT ARE THEY? AND THEN THAT GETS INCORPORATED INTO THE OFFER TO PURCHASE SO THAT THEN WE HAVE A COMMON THREAD GOING, GOING FORWARD.
RIGHT NOW THE PERSON COMES IN, THEY SIGN THE OFFER, THERE'S NO CONDITIONS, AND THEN THEN THEY START GETTING CONFUSED.
AND WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT CONDITIONS, BECAUSE THAT WASN'T DISCUSSED WITH THEM, THEM ON THE FRONT SIDE AND THERE WOULDN'T BE A REASON TO.
SO ALL OF THIS GOES TO MAKING THIS MORE STREAMLINED INTO COMMISSIONER STEWART'S POINT THAT WE UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING ALL ALONG.
SO THEN WHO WOULD BE THE DELIVERER OF THAT INFORMATION? SO EXAMPLE WOULD BE IF SOMEONE CAME IN, UH, MADE A BID GOING THROUGH THE UPSET BID PROCESS, SOMEONE ELSE COMES AND UPSETS THAT BID, WHO WAS GOING TO, WOULD, WOULD THE CITY CLERK BE CONVEYING THAT INFORMATION TO THAT THE BUYER THE UPSET OR SAYING, HEY, IF YOU PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY, THESE ARE THE RESTRICTIONS THAT THE COMMISSION HAS ALREADY PUT ON 'EM? OR HOW WOULD THAT INFORMATION GET TO THAT PERSON? YEAH, SO, UM, LET'S JUST, LET'S JUST TAKE IT THROUGH SINCE WE, WE'VE LIVED IT LIVE TONIGHT.
SO THIS WILL BE, I THINK, I THINK VERY HELPFUL.
SO WHAT THIS NEW PROCESS WILL DO IS IDENTIFY THE BUYER, THEY'LL, MARVIN AND I GONNA PREPARE A PACKAGE IN STANDARDIZED FORMS. WHAT IS YOUR VISION? WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? UM, IF THEY'RE GONNA CON, UM, ENTER INTO A, THEY WANNA BUILD A RESIDENTIAL STRUCTURE, LET'S SEE THE PLAN.
UM, WE WANNA GET AWAY FROM HOPES AND DREAMS AND I'D LIKE TO, TO, I'M READY TO GO DO SOMETHING MM-HMM
AND, AND THEN A, UH, UH, SHOWING A STATEMENT SHOWING THEIR FINANCIAL RESOURCES TO FULFILL THAT DREAM.
THEN THAT PACKAGE COMES TO YOU FIRST BEFORE ANYBODY SIGNS ANYTHING, THAT PACKAGE COMES TO YOU AND YOU DECIDE, DOES THIS MAKE SENSE? A PACKAGE COULD SIMPLY BE A GRASSY LOT, UH, OR IT COULD BE A SINGLE FAMILY DWELLING, BUT THEN YOU DECIDE WHAT YOU LIKE, WHAT THE APPROPRIATE CONDITIONS ARE THAT'S COMMUNICATED TO THE BUYER.
THEY'RE FREE TO COME AND MAKE A PRESENTATION OR NOT ENTIRELY UP TO THEM.
AND THEN BASED ON WHAT YOU DECIDE AT THAT PRELIMINARY STAGE,
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WE GIVE THEM WHAT ARE LIKELY GONNA BE STANDARD TYPE RESTRICTIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION.AND THEN THEY CAN MAKE A DECISION.
DO THEY WANNA GO FORWARD OR NOT? THEN WHEN WE ALL AGREE, WE'RE ALL GOING FORWARD, EACH PARTY SIGNS THAT OFFER TO PURCHASE WITH THE CONDITIONS, IT GETS NOTICED.
SO THE UPSET BID PROCESS WILL HAVE THOSE CONDITIONS IN IT.
NOW WILL FOLKS READ IT? WHO KNOWS.
BUT WHEN THEY COME IN TO UPSET THE BID, THE CLERK WILL HAND THEM POINT IT OUT TO THEM THAT HERE'S WHAT YOU'RE GETTING INTO, I NEED TO SEE YOUR HOUSE PLANS, YOUR FINANCIAL STATEMENTS, RIGHT.
SO THAT YOU CAN NOW STEP INTO THE SHOES AND DO THIS GOING FORWARD.
AND THAT WILL CONTINUE UNTIL WE HAVE A HIGH BIDDER.
THE POINT IS THAT SOUNDS BURDENSOME AND I, AND I, THE INTENT IS TO ACTUALLY MAKE THIS MORE EFFICIENT FOR EVERYONE AND LESS CONFUSING.
SO THAT PERSON WOULD NOT COME BACK BEFORE THE COMMISSION.
THEY WOULD GO TO THE GO BEFORE THE CITY CLERK AND PRESENT THAT INFORMATION.
THE THE NEW BIDDER WILL, WILL GIVE THEIR, IF THERE'S AN UPSET BID, THAT PACKAGE WILL GO TO THE CLERK AND THEN COME TO YOU.
AND, AND YOU, YOU WILL BE INVOLVED AT EVERY STEP OF ALL OF THIS.
IT WILL NEVER GET AWAY FROM YOU.
SO IT WOULD BE THE POINT WHERE WE AGREE TO ACCEPT OR NOT ACCEPT THE UPSET THAT, THAT WE WOULD SEE THAT PRE PRECISELY.
AND IF WE REJECT THE SECOND ONE, IT GOES BACK TO THE FIRST PERSON.
AM I RIGHT? IS THAT, UH, NO, THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP.
YEAH, THAT'S, THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.
UM, I AM 90% SURE NOT 99% SURE THAT YOU'VE GOTTA START BACK OVER AGAIN.
AND THE REASON TO DENY SOMEBODY WOULD LIKELY BE IT'S GONNA BE UNLIKELY THAT YOU DO OKAY.
IT'S GONNA BE UNLIKELY THAT YOU REJECT THE HIGHEST BID, BUT IN THEORY IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT CONCERNS YOU ABOUT THEIR FINANCIAL VIABILITY TO BUILD THE HOUSE.
UH, SOMETHING LIKE THAT THAT JUST MADE YOU UNCOMFORTABLE.
SO LIKE I SAID, SO IF WE DON'T ACCEPT THE SECOND UPSET BID YEAH.
THE WHOLE PROCESS TALKS ALL OVER AGAIN.
IT WOULDN'T GO BACK TO THE FIRST, FIRST THAT LET, LEMME ME REPORT BACK ON THAT.
BECAUSE THAT CAME UP IN NOMINATED MM-HMM
AND NOBODY WAY TO GO BACK TO THAT, TO, TO THAT PERSON.
THE TRADITIONAL RULE IS YOU START OVER WHOLE PROCESS TO WHAT, WHAT I WANNA THINK ABOUT IS UNDER THE VEING STATUTES, DO YOU HAVE ANY LEEWAY TO SKIP THAT STEP? GO? OKAY.
I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT.
UH, COMMISSIONER DYLAN, ANYTHING ON HOUSING? YES, I, I HAVE TWO OBJECTIONS RIGHT NOW.
I'M IN THE PROCESS OF ACQUIRING A SURVEYOR AND THE REASON FOR THAT IS TO SEE THE BILLABLE LOTS.
SEE HOW MANY LOCKS WE CAN GET OUT OF THAT AREA.
WHICH AREA IS THAT NOW THE CLEAR? I'M TALKING ABOUT PRINCE AVENUE.
I'M JUST THAT AVENUE, FIRST AVENUE.
AND, UH, SECONDLY, I'M LOOKING SOMEBODY CLEAN IT UP SO IT COULD BE SURVEYED PROPERLY AT THE POINT NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY LOTS BILLABLE LOT WE CAN GET IN THERE THAT PROPERLY.
SO I'M GONNA LEAVE IT IN THE AIR UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING.
HOPEFULLY I HAVE SOME CLARITY ON IT, WHAT WE CAN BUILD, HOW WE CAN BUILD THE SIZE OF THE LOTS AND THE EXACT ZONING OF THAT.
SO RIGHT NOW, IF ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT, THOSE ONLY TWO THINGS I, I'VE DONE SO FORTH.
I LET MR. STEWART HAVE SOMETHING TO ANSWER THAT.
UM, SO, UM, BASED ON THE, THE CONVERSATION AND THE RETREAT, UM, THE GROUP, TCR, UM, TRC, EXCUSE ME, UH, WE WERE ABLE TO REACH OUT TO THEM TO KIND OF DISCUSS THE AVENUES PROJECT.
WHO, WHAT GROUP IS THAT NAME YOU TALKED TO? TCR.
THE DOCUMENT THAT THE FORMER ED SENT TO ALL OF US.
UH, AND IT'S TCR, WHICH WAS THE, UH, SER THE, THE CONSULTING GROUP OUT OF CARRIE.
ARE THEY A DEVELOPER OR A SURVEY? UH, I'LL TELL YOU HERE, HE IS NOT A SURVEY ADDICT.
SO THEY HAVE THE, THE BROWNFIELD GRANT.
ARE YOU GUYS FAMILIAR WITH THAT? I THINK Z
I JUST READ THE INFORMATION THAT Z YEAH.
BROWNFIELD GRANT BECAUSE THE CITY HAS BROWNFIELD GRANTS.
SO THEY'VE DONE THE ENVIRONMENTALS ON, UH, 1225 CEDAR 7 22, UH, THIRD AVENUE, SEVEN 17 SECOND AVENUE, 7 0 3, SECOND 7 0 5, 7 0 7, 7 0 9, 7 21 7 18, 7 21, AND SEVEN 20 ON SECOND.
UH, WHERE THIS EXECUTIVE SUMMARY WAS LEFT OFF AT WAS THE NEXT STEP WAS THE CONCEPTUALITY.
UH, APPARENTLY, UH, IS ABOUT $300,000 THAT IS AVAILABLE.
UH, IN REGARDS TO THIS CONCEPTUALITY, MY QUESTION TO HIM WAS, UH, BACK IN
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A COUPLE YEARS AGO, I THINK THIS DOCUMENT HERE SAYS IT WAS 2022.I'M NOT SURE IF YOU GUYS WERE RECEIVED THIS, THE AFFORDABLE RESENT HOUSE DUFFY FIELD COMMUNITY BACK WHEN NC STATE CAME IN AND DID THESE CONCEPTUALITY PROJECTS.
AND SO MY QUESTION TO HIM WAS, WHY WOULD WE BE DOING THAT AGAIN? AND HIS PRETTY MUCH STATEMENT WAS THAT, UH, THE MONEY HAD TO BE SPENT AND IT HAD TO BE SPENT IN, UH, A CERTAIN WAY.
AND THAT WAS ONE OF THE WAYS THAT HAD BEEN AGREED UPON TO TO, TO SPEND THE MONEY.
SO THE ENVIRONMENTAL, HE SHARED THE ENVIRONMENTALS THAT WERE DONE ON THOSE PROPERTIES.
UH, THE NEXT STEP, UH, HE SAID HE WOULD BE COMING DOWN NEXT WEEK, UH, TO MEET, TO KIND OF GO OVER, UH, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, UH, AND UH, AND SAY WHO HE'S MEETING WITH.
ARE WE GONNA MEET WITH ME AND MR.
I JUST KNOW WHO YOU'RE MEETING WITH.
SO HE, HE GAVE QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THE EPA, UH, THE BROWNFORD GRANT IN GENERAL.
UH, I THINK IN SPEAKING TO DEVELOPMENT SERVICES TODAY WITH DEIA, SHE SAID ABOUT 60,000 OF THAT MONEY, UH, WAS ALLOCATED TO ANOTHER PROJECT, BUT THERE'S STILL ABOUT TWO 40, UH, THAT APPARENTLY IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR THESE CONCEPTUALLY, UH, DRAWINGS.
AND THEN HE ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE WAS ABOUT FOUR OTHER THINGS THAT, THAT MONEY COULD BE USED FOR ONE OF THEM BEING CLEANUP OF THOSE LOTS.
UH, AND SO I THINK THE, THE TASK AT HAND IS UNDERSTANDING, UH, THOSE LOTS ARE ON THE NON SELLABLE, UH, LISTS THAT WE HAVE.
UH, SO THEY'RE NOT TO BE SOLD.
AND SO I, I THINK MY QUESTION WOULD BE WHAT IS THE, UH, CITY'S, UH, APPETITE ON THOSE LOTS OR THE REDEVELOPMENT, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN SOME DIFFERENT CONVERSATION ON WHAT THOSE LOTS ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE, ARE GOING TO BE USED FOR.
THEY WERE GROUPED TOGETHER OBVIOUSLY TO ATTRACT A DEVELOPER TO COME IN, UH, TO DEVELOP THOSE PROPERTIES.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH BACK TO BACK TO EACH OTHER.
UH, AND SO WE JUST NEED TO HAVE SOME DIRECTION WHEN WE DO SIT DOWN AND MEET WITH HIM ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.
BECAUSE WHAT HIS UNDERSTANDING IS, IS THAT, UH, THE NEXT TIME HE COMES HERE IS THAT HE NEEDS TO START THE NEXT PROCESS.
AND HE KIND OF SAID THAT THE BALL HAD GOT DROPPED ON THAT.
SO HE'S THE IDEA FROM SOMEBODY.
CAN YOU ALSO INVITE THE ASSISTANT CITY? ABSOLUTELY.
THAT'S, CAN I, CAN I ASK, CAN WE YEAH.
THE BROWNSFIELD GRANTS THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO, THAT MONEY CAN ONLY BE USED FOR SURVEYING THE PROPERTY.
YOU CAN'T USE IT FOR, FOR CLEANUP OR ANYTHING ELSE BUT THAT, SO WE, AND THAT, AND THE CITY HAD, HAS HAD GOTTEN THAT GRANT THERE.
THERE'S, THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF TWO OR THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF BROWNFIELD GRANTS.
AND THE ONE THAT WE HAVE DOESN'T ALLOW, IT'S MORE SO JUST SURVEYING TO SEE IF IT, IF IT IS A BROWNFIELD LOCATION.
UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S ONE THING.
AND YOU ALL OWN THOSE PROPERTIES, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION THAT, THAT YOU HAVE IT ON A NONS SELLABLE LIST.
THE CITY DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THAT.
SO YOU ALL CAN DO WHATEVER YOU ALL WANT TO DO.
WE, WE DON'T RESTRICT THE CITY DOES NOT RESTRICT WHAT YOU ALL CAN DO WITH THOSE PROPERTY.
IF YOU WANT TO TAKE 'EM OFF THE NONS SELLABLE, LISTEN, DO SOMETHING ELSE.
I THINK ORIGINALLY MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS PUT IN PLACE SO THAT YOU ALL COULD COME UP WITH THE AVENUES PROJECT.
WELL, WHAT HE SENT ME OVER KIND OF CONTRADICTS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
HE GAVE, UH, THREE, UH, POTENTIAL USES OF THAT MONEY AND ONE OF THOSE, UH, THE GRANT CAN ALSO BE USED FOR THINGS OUTSIDE ASSESSMENT SUCH AS CLEANUP PLANNING IF NECESSARY.
SO HE SAYS THAT THAT'S ONE OF, OKAY, I'LL, I'LL SHOW YOU, I'LL SHOW YOU THE GRANT.
I WENT TO THE CONFERENCE BOARD, BUT I'LL SHOW YOU THE INFORMATION ON IT.
AND THIS IS FROM RYAN SANDLER, THE PROJECT MANAGER.
I'M NOT, I DON'T KNOW WHO HE IS.
I'M, I'M GOING FROM THE, UH, WHEN I HAD TO GO TO THE CONFERENCE WHEN WE WERE RECEIVE IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THAT GRANT.
FIRST OF ALL, I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE TO MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS FOR NOT BEING AVAILABLE AND, UH, BEING ABSENT FROM THE RETREAT ON JANUARY THE 24TH.
UM, I WAS CURRENTLY UNDER DOCTOR'S CARE AFTER A HEART PROCEDURE AND I WAS ABLE TO CONTACT THE CHAIRMAN AND HE WAS KIND ENOUGH TO SHARE THE COMMUNITY HEALTH CENTER USAGE AND NUMBERS OKAY.
AND FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DID REACH
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OUT TO ME, I APPRECIATE IT.I'M, I'M TOO HONORED TO GO ANYWHERE.
UM, CHIEF CHIEF GALLAGHER DID ATTEND THE RETREAT AND HE AND I HAD BEEN IN CONVERSATION AND HE SHARED SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT NEEDED TO BE GIVEN AS IT RELATED TO THE UPTICK, BUT THEN THE DOWNTICK IN CRIMES THAT WERE GOING ON IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, AND WE WILL BE GOING OVER THOSE NUMBERS.
AND HE HAS ASSURED ME THAT THERE ARE SOME, SOME OTHER PROJECTS IN IN PLACE THAT HE COULDN'T REALLY DISCUSS WITH ME AT THAT TIME.
UH, BUT TO LET YOU JUST KNOW WHAT THE CLIMATE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS AND THE APPETITE OF THE COMMUNITY, THERE WAS A MAJOR RESURFACING OF ROADES THAT HAD TAKEN PLACE IN THE COMMUNITY RECENTLY.
AND WHENEVER PUBLIC WORKS IS IN THE AREA, THE COMMUNITY FEELS LIKE THEY'RE BEING RECOGNIZED.
THEY FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING ADDRESSED.
AND I JUST WANNA TELL THE, UH, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU, THEY ARE VERY, VERY PLEASED.
WE ARE VERY PLEASED TO SEE ACTIVITY THAT'S GOING ON IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.
THE, UH, BATHROOMS AT THE OLD STANLEY WHITE, UM, SITE ARE ALMOST COM COMPLETED.
AND DON'T THINK THAT THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT KNOW THEY'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION.
BUT THERE ARE TWO WORDS THAT WE'RE GONNA TAKE AWAY FROM TONIGHT AND THEIR TRANSPARENCY AND EDUCATION.
THERE ARE SOME CONCERNS AND SOME CONFUSION AS IT RELATES TO SOME OF THE RESIDENTS BECAUSE THEY APPROACHED ME WITH CERTAIN QUESTIONS SUCH AS THE CLOSED STREETS SUCH AS WEST STREET, FOWLERS LANE AND EAST ROADS.
AND THE QUESTION THAT THEY HAVE IS, IS THAT GOING TO BE A PERMANENT CLOSURE AS IT HAS DE MADE DETOURS AND CLOSED DOWN ROADS, WHETHER IT BE PERMANENTLY OR WHETHER IT BE TEMPORARILY THAT HAVE BEEN ACCESSIBLE TO GAIN ACCESS BACK INTO CERTAIN AREAS OF THE DUFFY FIELD AREA.
AND SO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE EDUCATING THEM, BUT THEY ALSO WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT PROTOCOL IS AS IT RELATES TO WHEN THERE ARE MAJOR PRODUCT, I MEAN MAJOR PROJECTS, AND WHEN THERE ARE MAJOR CLOSURES THAT ARE GOING ON.
AND IS THERE PROTOCOL OR CITY ORDINANCE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RESIDENTS ARE MADE AWARE OF THESE PROJECTS? THEY'VE HAD AN ISSUE WITH THE RETENTION PONDS.
WE HAVE THREE MAJOR RETENTION PONDS IN THE AREA AND THERE'VE BEEN SOME BEAUTIFICATION PROJECTS THAT HAVE GONE ON, BUT ONLY ONE OF THE RETENTION PONDS IS SECURE AND IT'S SECURED BY, BY A FENCE.
AND IT'S NOT A VERY SECURE FENCE AND IT'S NOT A HIGH FENCE AND IT'S RIGHT BEHIND A DAYCARE CENTER AND IT JUST CAUSES SOME CONCERN.
WE HAVE NOTICED THAT THERE HAS BEEN A CUL-DE-SAC PUT IN AND SOME SIGNS THAT HAVE BEEN ERECTED AT SOME OF THE STREETS THAT NOW WILL READ NO OUTLET.
AND THERE HAS BEEN A CUL-DE-SAC THAT HAS BEEN ADDED WHERE BEFORE IT WAS JUST A DEAD END.
THERE ARE SOME ISSUES WITH DILAPIDATED HOUSING THAT I WILL BE PASSING ON THOSE ADDRESSES TO MARVIN AND I WILL ASK HIM TO PRINT OFF THOSE PICTURES.
I HAVE PICTURES AND ADDRESSES THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN TO ME AND THAT I HAVE GONE THROUGH THE RE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND ALSO WITNESSED.
SO WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THOSE.
BUT TRANSPARENCY AND EDUCATION JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITIZENS, OUR RESIDENTS, AND THE COMMUNITY IN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION KNOWS AND UNDERSTANDS WHAT THEY CAN EXPECT FROM THE CITY BECAUSE WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT OF THEM AND WE NEED THEIR SUPPORT.
SO THIS IS GONNA BE A PARTNERSHIP THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE WITH.
UM, AND OVERALL THE APPETITE AND THE CLIMATE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS A, IS A GOOD ONE.
WE'VE BEEN HAVING A LOT OF ATTENTION.
WE'VE BEEN GETTING A LOT OF PUBLIC WORKS.
THERE HAVE BEEN SOME BEAUTIFICATION PRODUCTS AND THERE'VE BEEN SOME NEW HOUSING THAT HAS BEEN ERECTED BOTH ON LINCOLN STREET, ON MAIN STREET AND THERE'S BEEN A NOTICE.
AND SO WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST TELL THE CITY, ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU, BUT WE DO NEED TO
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MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE BEING TRANSPARENT AND THAT WE'RE EDUCATING OUR CITIZENS.[8. Staff Report]
UH, WITH THE STAFF WITH, UH, THE MONTHLY ACTIVITIES REVIEW.UH, THE, THE CITY'S NOW CURRENTLY WORKING ON OUR BUDGET.
SO WITH THAT IN MIND, THE REDEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMISSION HAS A BUDGET AND THE ONE THAT YOU ALL HAD ADOPTED LAST YEAR, UH, I WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT WE, THAT IT WAS SUFFICIENT AND, UH, THE, UM, THE, UM, THE FINANCIAL REPORT THAT I SENT OUT THAT, UH, HOPEFULLY EVERYONE GOT A COPY OF IT.
IT SHOWS YOU ALL WHAT THOSE AMOUNTS WERE.
AND IF YOU ALL ARE, IF THE BOARD IS AMENABLE TO, UH, CONTINUE, UH, THIS NEXT BUDGET YEAR WITH THE SAME, UM, THAT'S WHAT I WOULD, UH, RECOMMEND PUTTING INTO THE, UH, THE BUDGET FOR YOU ALL.
ANY QUESTION ON ANY DIFFERENCE IN THIS COMING BUDGET ABOUT SATISFIED STRICKLAND? I KNOW YOU PART OF IT.
SO IF, IF EVERYONE'S, UH, AGREEABLE TO THAT, UH, IF, IF YOU ALL WANT TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR YOU, MAKE YOUR BUDGET, I I I CAN TAKE THAT FORWARD TO I I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION.
IN THAT BUDGET ON ANY ALLOCATIONS ALLOWED FOR THE PROGRESS OF THE LOTS THAT WE, UH, JUST DISCUSSED AND FOR THE, UH, MAKING CLEAN, SAY AGAIN? CLEAN, CLEAN UP, UH, MAKING THEM BILLABLE.
THE, UH, THE ITEMS, UM, COMMISSIONER DI HUNT THAT YOU ALL HAD PUT MONEY INTO IT WAS, UM, MONEY WAS, UH, COULD BE UTILIZED FOR, I DIDN'T BRING MY GLASSES, BUT UH, MR. DI WAS SENT, I THINK THERE, THERE WAS MONEY THAT COULD BE UTILIZED FOR OTHER, UM, PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT WOULD, WOULD HELP WITH CLEANING UP.
AND THEN YOU HAD MON IN THERE AVAILABLE FOR, UH, LAND AND STRUCTURE PUR UH, UH, PURCHASES.
AND, UM, YOU HAD, UM, MONEY, UH, AVAILABLE FOR OTHER SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS AND YOU, YOU HAVE MONEY IN THERE FOR THE UTILITIES.
ALRIGHT, SO YOU LOOKING FOR A MOTION TO, UH, FOR YOU TO SUBMIT THIS YEAR'S BUDGET AS SIMILAR TO THE ONE OF LAST YEAR? IF YOU ALL WANT THE SAME AMOUNTS AND EVERYTHING THAT WAS IN THE LAST YEAR'S BUDGET, WE CAN RESUBMIT FOR THAT, UH, WITH THE SAME CRITERIA THAT YOU ALL PLACE IN WITH, WITH NO INCREASES NEEDED.
UH, WE, WE COULD, WE WOULD DO THAT.
YOU NEED A MOTION FOR THAT? UH, JUST RECOMMENDATION.
WELL, WE, UH, I THINK WHEN WE WERE TALKING, UH, IN REGARDS TO THE, THE PR, UH, IF, IF IT'S POSSIBLE TO HAVE A SMALL BUDGET FOR SOME TYPE OF CARD, SOME TYPE OF MARKETING MATERIAL, ONE SHEETER, UH, AS WE FINALIZE AND AND UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE MARKETING, I THINK WE, WE KIND OF DISCUSSED THAT IF THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN DO DOLLAR AMOUNT, I DON'T KNOW.
UH, BUT WE WERE KIND OF THINKING OF SOME TYPE OF HANDOUT, SOME TYPE OF CARD, SOME TYPE OF ONE SHEETER TO, UM, TO, TO MARKET.
UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.
YEAH, I MEAN JUST CONVERSATIONALLY.
I THINK THOSE COULD BE COVERED UNDER THE, THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES OR THE OTHER SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS THAT OKAY.
UM, COMMISSION STEWARD UNDER OTHER SUPPLIES AND MATERIALS, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE $3,400 AND THAT, THAT'S THE WAY WE, THAT CAN BE A LINE ITEM.
AND YOU HAD, FOR UTILITIES, YOU ALL HAD 4,500, WHICH THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA BE WAY MORE THAN ME.
'CAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU ALL ARE UTILIZING.
SO IF YOU ALL WANT TO ADJUST THAT, WE, WE COULD OBVIOUSLY DO THAT.
UM, OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES, YOU ALL, UH, HAD PREVIOUSLY HAD $26,000, UM, WHICH IS GOOD.
UM, CLEARING LOTS AND, AND, AND SUCH.
UM, MY, MY QUESTION, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE THAT WE, WE SUBMIT THE SAME BUDGET AND, AND I GOT, I WANT TO REMIND THE BOARD, I KNOW WE ALL HAVE IDEAS, BUT REMEMBER THE LEAD FOR THIS IS OUR IDEAS, OUR DREAMS, BUT THE LEAD GOES BACK TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR THEM TO MANAGE WHAT WE HAVE AND DIRECT IT WHERE IT NEEDS GO UPON OUR RECOMMENDATION.
BUT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR IS GONNA HAVE A LOT TO PLAY WITH HOW WE DO THAT.
LET'S GET A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.
IF THAT'S, IF THAT'S WORTH PLEASURE.
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MOTION TO DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO, UH, FOR THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER TO SUBMIT OUR BUDGET BASED ON LAST YEAR'S PERIOD.SO MOVED SECOND, THEN MOVE THE PROPERTY SECOND THAT THE BUDGET BE SUBMITTED AS OF SIMILAR TO LAST YEAR.
THE, THE OTHER THING WITH UNDER FINANCIAL UPDATES, UM, THE ONE THAT I, UH, SUBMITTED TO YOU ALL THAT, THAT IS THE MOST CURRENT ONE.
THE ONLY THING THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY ON THAT ONE IS THE, UH, UTILITIES, WHICH USUALLY RUNS ABOUT $135 A MONTH, WHICH IT WOULD BE DEDUCTED FROM THAT, WHICH IT HASN'T BEEN ON THE, THE, THE NEWEST, UM, INVOICE THAT YOU ALL RECEIVED AS WELL AS THE FOOD AND DRINKS FROM THE, UH, RETREAT, WHICH WAS, UH, JUST UNDER, UM, $350.
THAT, THAT WOULD BE DEDUCTIBLE.
BUT OTHER THAN THAT, IT'S, IT'S CORRECT.
THE OTHER ITEM THAT WE HAVE ON THAT IS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DIRECTOR'S POSITION.
UH, MYSELF AND THE CITY MANAGER HAVE SCREENED THE, UH, APPLICANT'S THAT WE'VE HAD.
UH, WE'VE NARROWED IT DOWN TO ABOUT FOUR, FOUR OR SO APPLICANTS.
AND WE'RE GOING TO THE, THE PLAN IS WITHIN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, BRING THOSE FOUR OR SO IN FOR A, UM, IN-PERSON INTERVIEWS.
AND IF ANYONE ON THE, UH, BOARD WAS INTERESTED IN BEING PART OF THAT, UM, WE, WE WOULD WORK THEM INTO THE PROCESS OF HELPING TO DETERMINE WHAT THE CITY MANAGER DECIDES, THE PERSON YOU DECIDES TO CHOOSE.
[9. Next Meeting: March 11, 2026 ]
MEETING.UH, THERE IS NO INFORMATION, UH, THERE'S NOTHING TO HAVE CLOSED SESSION FOR ATTORNEY? NO, SIR.
OKAY, ITEM NUMBER 11 TO ADJOURN.
DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN? SO MOVED.
IT IS MOVED AND PROPERLY SECOND THAT WE ADJOURN.