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OKAY.

UM, THE OFFICIAL WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.

THIS IS THE JUNE 9TH, 2026 SPECIAL LEAD, UH, BETWEEN NEW AND BOARD ALDERMAN AND THE COMMISSION MATTER.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

HERE.

ALDERMAN BRYANT? HERE.

ALDERMAN ASTOR? HERE.

MAYOR ODOM.

HERE.

ALDERMAN WHITE.

HERE.

ALDERMAN.

BEST? ALDERMAN OUTLAW HERE.

OKAY.

YOU WANT TO CALL THE ROLL TO SHOW? YES.

OKAY.

SO SOMEBODY READ CALL.

ALRIGHT.

UH, COMMISSIONER DOVE.

CORRECT.

COMMISSIONER PROCTOR.

COMMISSIONER MORGAN.

COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER SIMMONS.

HERE.

COMMISSIONER STEWART HERE.

AND COMMISSIONER WALLACE.

WE DO NOT HAVE A QUORUM AT THIS TIME.

OKAY.

UM,

[1. Discuss Goals, Objectives and Expectations with the Redevelopment Commission.]

WE WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER ONE.

AND THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE MEETING.

UM, WE FELT LIKE, I DON'T THINK SINCE THE COMMISSION HAS BEEN ESTABLISHED, THERE WAS EVER A JOINT MEETING BETWEEN THE COMMISSION BOARD, DERMAN.

UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES OBVIOUSLY ON YOU GUYS BOARD, OUR BOARD AS WELL, AND, UH, CONVERSATION WITH THE BOARD.

WE BE GET AROUND THE TABLE, HAVE CONVERSATION, UH, SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

SO I'LL, I'LL KICK THIS OFF AND THEN, UH, THE ALMAN CAN CHIME AS WELL.

SO THANK YOU ALL, UH, FOR COMING TONIGHT.

UM, I FEEL LIKE WHEN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WAS INITIALLY ESTABLISHED, UH, THAT WAS THREE, THIS BOARD AND, UH, WE HAD COVID, UH, THAT ALSO CAME TO PLACE.

SO TURNOVER WITH YOUR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION ALSO DURING THAT TIME.

AND, UM, I, I FELT LIKE THE BOARD AGREED THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE.

GOOD IDEA JUST TO SIT AROUND, HAVE CONVERSATION, UH, TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME THINGS THAT ARE WORKING WELL FOR YOU ALL, SOME THINGS THAT YOU'RE STRUGGLING WITH, SOME THINGS THAT HELP YOU ALL WITH, BUT REALLY JUST HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE.

I KNOW WE'VE GOT A FORMAL OF HAVING HERE, BUT WE REALLY WANNA CONVERSATION, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

WHAT YOU'VE THERE LONGER THAN OTHERS, UM, BUT, UH, THE THINGS THAT YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED HAS CERTAINLY BEEN A POSITIVE CONTRIBUTION TO COMMUNITY AND THE COMMISSION IN THE AREA THAT YOU'RE THERE TO SERVE.

SO I APPRECIATE THAT.

AND I'LL ASK THE BOARD.

I JUST, I ONLY HAVE MORE QUESTIONS AND PROBABLY MORE STATEMENTS THAT I AND MEMBERS AS WELL, THAT FROM BEGINNING, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THE INCEPTION OF THE DEVELOP COMMISSION, I HAVE STOOD STEADFAST AND STOOD MY, BECAUSE I KNOW GOOD GOALS SET IN MIND, GOOD THINGS TO DO FOR THE COMMUNITY TO BE DEVELOP AND, AND, UH, THE COMMUNITY AND OTHER AREAS OF THE CITY MUCH NEEDED.

AND I THINK ALL OF ALL MEMBERS SO FAR AND HAVE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB.

UM, I KNOW A LOT OF THE MEMBERS AND DIRECT THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, THERE WAS A LOT OF CHALLENGES, A LOT OF PROBLEMS. AND I HAVE TO LOOK AT IT FROM A PERSPECTIVE OF HISTORY.

DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION STARTED IN GROUND ZERO.

THEY HAD TO FORM THE RULES OF PROCEDURE.

THEY HAVE, THEY HAD SOME FORMS AND STATUTORY RIGHTS AND, AND, AND, AND, AND ALL OF THAT WAS IN PLAY.

I MEAN, THEY HAD THEIR HANDS FULL FROM THE BEGINNING.

AND I KNOW A LOT OF IT, IT TOOK TIME.

IT WAS ALL SETBACKS.

BUT OVERALL, I FEEL THAT PERMISSION ACCOMPLISHED THE, ALONG THE HELP OF THE BOARD.

I HAVE TO SAY FOLLOW.

AND I HOPE THIS IS WHEN WE CONTINUE TO WORK TOGETHER AS A, AS A BOARD COMMISSIONERS AND GET OUR GOALS AND OBJECTIVES AND EVERYTHING AS GET STARTED.

AND BOTTOM LINE HERE, WE'RE DOING THIS OF THE CITIZENS.

AND SO AGAIN, I JUST BACK WHAT NU SAID, I DO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'VE DONE, THE WORK Y'ALL WILL CONTINUE TO DO.

I THINK THAT I, I'VE SPOKEN TO MANY OF YOU

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ABOUT AND, AND WHAT YOUR FUTURE GOALS ARE.

I THINK I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME CONSTERNATION ENTRY BOARD ON KIND OF THE PATH FORWARD.

AND I THINK THIS IS A REALLY HELPFUL VENUE FOR US TO OPEN IT UP WITH.

WHAT DO YOU NEED FROM THE BOARD OF A TO ACCOMPLISH YOUR MISSION? BECAUSE I'VE GONE THROUGH YOUR PLAN.

UM, SOME OF IT'S BEEN ACCOMPLISHED.

THERE'S A LOT THAT REMAINS UNAC ACCOMPLISHED AND I THINK THAT IS A REALLY GOOD PLAN FOR REDEVELOPMENT.

AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY THAT WE CAN SUPPORT YOU IN ACCOMPLISHING SOME OF THIS.

ONE ISSUE THAT I HAVE SEEN HAS BEEN, IS SUCH A LARGE FOCUS AREA THAT IT MIGHT BE BENEFICIAL TO HONE IN ON SPECIFIC PROJECTS, UM, WITH A TRY GET ACCOMPLISHED.

AND SO THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO HELP WITH THAT.

AND SO I JUST AT THAT POINT THAT I THINK IF WE COULD COME OUT OF THIS MEETING WITH A SELECT PROJECT FOCUS AND WHAT THE CITY CAN DO TO SUPPORT YOU AND THEN HAVE, WHAT I'M HEARING IS YOU NEED EXPECTATIONS, DIRECTIONS FROM US, WE CAN PROVIDE THAT AND TO JUST OPEN UP THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE, UM, COUPLE POINTS OF CLARITY.

UH, COUNSEL, UM, YOU KNOW, MY DISCUSSION TODAY ABOUT REDEVELOPMENT LOTS AND NON REDEVELOPS, COULD YOU JUST DELINEATE THAT FOR A MOMENT? YES, SIR.

HAPPY TO.

SO WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA BOUNDARY, WHICH EXTENDS FROM LAWSON CREEK ALL THE WAY NORTH TO EAST ROW STREET, THERE ARE A NUMBER OF LOTS THAT ARE OWNED BY GOVERNMENTAL ENTITIES.

SOME OF THOSE LOTS ARE CITY COUNTY OWNED LOTS THAT WERE ACQUIRED THROUGH TAX FORECLOSURE.

UM, THOSE LOTS CAN BE SOLD THROUGH THE UPSET BID PROCESS AS SOON AS THE GOVERNING BOARD SURPLUSES THEM, UM, THEY'RE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE NORMAL PROCESS THE BOARD IS ACCUSTOMED TO.

THERE ARE ALSO LOTS THAT HAVE BEEN CONVEYED TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

UM, IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THE CITY OWNED LOTS THAT WERE EXCLUSIVELY HELD BY THE CITY WERE CONVEYED TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AT ITS INCEPTION BACK IN 2018 EXCLUSIVELY OWNED BY THE CITY.

YES, SIR.

THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING.

OKAY.

YES, SIR.

SINCE THEN, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS ACQUIRED PROPERTIES, UM, IN ITS OWN NAME, HAS ALSO REQUESTED ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES FROM THE CITY AND THE COUNTY.

UM, SO IT DOES HAVE ITS OWN INDEPENDENT INVENTORY OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

NOW, REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS ARE UNIQUE IN THAT THEY CAN CONVEY THOSE PROPERTIES THROUGH THE UPSET BID PROCESS SUBJECT TO CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS AND CONDITIONS.

THE REASON I ASK THE QUESTION IS SOMETIMES WHEN WE WE'RE DOING UPSET BIDS, UM, I REALLY HONESTLY IN MY, IN THAT THIS DO NOT KNOW IF IT, AND, AND I WAS UH, CORRECTED ON THAT BY, BY MR. DAVIS, THAT WHEN, WHEN YOU MAKE THE, IT DID SAY REDEVELOPMENT WILL CLEARLY STATE THAT THAT'S A REASONABLE THE LIE.

YES, SIR.

UM, WHEN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION GOES TO SELL PROPERTY, THEY HAVE TO RECEIVE APPROVAL OF THAT SALE BY THE GOVERNING BOARD.

AND WHEN THAT PROPERTY IS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION, THE CITY CLERK DELINEATES THAT INFORMATION ON THE AGENDA AS WELL AS THE SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS TO HELP THE BOARD HAVE SOME CONTEXT FOR THE TRANSACTION.

SO THE ONLY THING I'M TRYING TO GET TO HERE IS I HAVE, I'M, I'M NOT ON MY GAME ON THIS.

UH, I HOPE, I HOPE OTHERS HERE KNOW MORE THAN THAT.

I KNOW SOMETIMES I DON'T KNOW.

AND IT MUST BE FRUSTRATING TO THE BOARD TO NOT KNOW WHETHER IF SOMEBODY CONTACT YOU THAT WANTED TO GO HOME AND YOU START HELPING THEM OUT BECAUSE YOU THINK IT'S A LOT, THEN YOU FIND OUT IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S NOT.

AND I WANT BE ABLE TO WORK ON THAT.

AND I WANT FOR, FOR THE BOARD'S PART HERE TO HELP YOU GUYS, UM, FIND MORE BUYERS.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT'S MAINLY BEEN WHAT I'VE SEEN THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IMPROVE IS, IS WE'VE GOT HELP AND BE PART OF THE PROCESS OF THROUGH FOUR RIVERS, HOME BUILDERS AND OTHERS.

WE'VE GOT TO HELP MORE PEOPLE WANT TO BUY, BUILD HOMES WITHIN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

AND I WANT, I WANT FINE TUNE THAT WE'RE HERE TO HELP.

TWO BEFORE YOU FURTHER, UM, MS. UM, RUSSELL, NOW, AM I CORRECT IN SAYING THAT REDEVELOP COMMISSION HAS ALREADY, THEY ALREADY HAVE THEIR PROPERTIES, A LIST OF PROPERTIES THAT THEY CAN SELL? IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING, MR. WILLIAMS CAN CORRECT ME THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MAINTAINS A LIST OF THE PROPERTIES THAT IT OWNS.

RIGHT.

SO THAT INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE INTERESTED IN PURCHASING THOSE PROPERTIES KNOW THAT THEY'RE OWNED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

OKAY.

.

AND IF, IF, IF A PROPERTY IS BEING SOLD BY THE, BY THE MENT COMMISSION AND NOTING AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE

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I LOOKED THROUGH MY NOTES WAY BACK WHEN Y'ALL ACTUALLY ESTABLISHED, DON'T THEY HAVE TO ASK THE 75% OF THE PROPERTY VALUE, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS ESTABLISHED A PROPERTY THAT THEY WILL INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS, OR THEY'LL CONSIDER INITIATING THE UPSET BID PROCESS IF A MINIMUM BID OF 75% OF THE ASSESSED VALUE IS PRESENTED.

THANK YOU.

FIRST, FIRST QUESTION I WANNA KNOW, UM, WHEN I CAME INTO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, IT WAS UNDER MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE WERE THE IDEA MEMBERS CREATIVE OF IDEAS TO BRING FORTH TO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR EXECUTIVE THOSE PLANS THAT WE, AS THE BOARD CAME TOGETHER, DECIDED THE FUND.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, IF THAT'S HOW THE NEW DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION ESTABLISHMENT BEGINNING, WHY WOULD YOU ALL LET THE FUNDS FOR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, STEP DOWN MIDTERM STEP FOR FUNDS? WERE AVAILABLE TO PAY SOMEBODY FOR THE REST OF THE TIME.

BUT I'M HEARING THAT THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ONE AND IF THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ONE, IF WE NOW BECOME A BOARD THAT'S WORKING ALL THE TIME TO IMPLEMENT OUR THOUGHTS AND IDEAS, OR IS WE WORK A JOB TO DO BEFORE HE TOOK THIS ROLE ON TEMPORARILY? THAT'S MY FIRST QUESTION.

I GOT ANOTHER HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

SO WHERE IS THE MONEY? WHY VOID ANYMORE? YEP.

SO I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT.

SO AS WE WERE GOING THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE STARTED IN NOVEMBER.

UH, WE WERE STILL GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS OF HIRING AN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

UM, THAT PROCESS, ACTUALLY, WE PUT IT ON HAL WHEN WE SAW HOW THE, HOW THE REVENUES WERE COMING WITH THE GENERAL FUND AND ULTIMATELY MADE THE DECISION TO NOT ONLY, UH, I MADE THE DECISION NOT TO FUND THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION, BUT ALSO ANOTHER POSITION IN PARKS AND RECREATION BALANCES BUDGET.

UM, SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DOES NOT HAVE STAFF.

MARVIN WILLIAMS HAS BEEN DESIGNATED TO WORK WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AS WELL AS OF FULL MOVE.

SO YOU'VE ACTUALLY GOT TWO STAFF MEMBERS THAT WILL WORK TO IMPLEMENT WHATEVER THE GOALS AND OBJECTIVES ARE OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

AND I WANT YOU TO UNDERSTAND, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS NOT AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

YOU ARE A DECISION MAKING GROUP.

SO IT'S UP TO YOU TO COME UP WITH YOUR PROJECTS BASED ON WHAT THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN HAVE COME UP WITH, WITH A PLAN AND IMPLEMENT THOSE THINGS STAFF'S HERE TO HELP NOT ONLY MARVIN AND DA, I'M HERE TO HELP, UH, THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES HERE TO HELP AS WELL.

WELL, LIKE WITH THE AVENUES PROJECT, WHEN YOU SAY IMPLEMENT THOSE IDEAS TO ME, THEY HAVE ALREADY HAVE ESTABLISHED AVENUES PROJECT, THE IMPLEMENT.

I'M GONNA STOP YOU RIGHT THERE.

THERE IS NO AVENUES PROJECT IDEA OF ONE.

YEAH.

CREATE, CREATE THAT IDEA.

WE'RE, WE'RE HAPPY TO HELP YOU FORMULATE THAT, BUT I'VE SEEN NOTHING ON AN AVENUES PROJECT.

MARVIN BELIEVES, HAVE YOU SEEN ANYTHING ON AN AVENUE PROJECT? THERE HAS NOT BEEN.

IT.

I THINK ORIGINALLY THEY HAD A, UM, A WORKING GROUP OR SOMETHING THAT WAS WORKING ON IT.

I THINK KI ROY WAS ON IT AND I THINK, UH, DI UH, DI HUNT WAS ON IT.

AND THAT WAS A WORKING GROUP THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO COME UP WITH AN IDEA TO BRING IT TO THE BOARD.

AND THAT NEVER CAME TO FRUITION.

I MEAN, THE, THE, THE INFORMATION BEHIND IT AS FAR AS STARTING IS THERE, BUT THERE HASN'T BEEN ANYTHING DONE WITH IT.

UM, ALSO, UM, QUESTION ALSO, I KNOW WHAT THE GUYS WITH WHAT THE NEW DEVELOPMENT COMMISSION DOES, LIKE I'M GETTING READY TO DO WHATEVER WORK NEEDS TO BE DONE, WHETHER I'M HERE JUST ON BOARD, TALKING, MAKING IDEAS, FEEDING THEM OUT, FINE.

IF IT'S SOME WORK, WE GOTTA GET OUR HANDS DIRTY, DUST DIRTY AND MAKE CONNECTIONS AND TALK TO PEOPLE.

I, I GUESS I FEEL LIKE RIGHT NOW, FROM WHAT I WAS TOLD WHEN I FIRST CAME ON THE BOARD, THIS WAS MORE, UM, OF COURSE WE HAD POWER TO IMPLEMENT AND DECIDE, BUT OUR HANDS WERE TIED BECAUSE WE HAVE TO INSPIRE PEOPLE TO BUY INTO OUR IDEA.

AND WE, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, MR. , THE BIDENS AREN'T THERE, ALL WE DOING IS TALK.

SO UNLESS WE HAVE A WAY THAT WE CAN BE A LEASE TO GO GET GRANTS, GET FUNDS, WE FIND CONTRACTORS AND WE IMPLEMENT BUILDING, LET'S BUILD THIS PROPERTY, NOTHING'S GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE DON'T GET ANYBODY TO BUY.

I, IT CAN BE THE GREATEST IDEA FOR THE DOESN'T SAY, OKAY, I'LL BUY THE AND DO WHAT YOU WANT, WE JUST TALKING ABOUT, BUT IF WE, IF YOU ALL COME TOGETHER AND GIVE US, UM, MORE, MORE LENIENCY AND GIVE US THE POWER TO SAY, OKAY, IF YOU ALL SEEK YOUR MONEY, THEN WE CAN TALK THE DAY BEFORE ALL THESE GRANTS SHE KNOWS ABOUT

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HOW CAN WE GIVE HER SOME MONEY? WE CAN COME TOGETHER, WE CAN FIND BILLS CONTRACTORS AND WE CAN MOVE FORWARD AND GET SOMETHING.

BUT CURRENTLY TRYING TO FIND SOMEONE TO LIKE THE I IDEA AND THEY FUND ME.

I MEAN, I HAVEN'T BEEN HERE LONG, BUT THIS DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THE WHEELS GONNA BE TURNED AS FAST AS YOU ALL THAT I'M NOT AWARE PRECLUDE YOU ALL FROM SEEKING GRANTS, UM, OR ANYTHING THAT IF, IF, IF WE COULD GET THE, UM, LEGAL COUNSEL TO, TO LOOK AT THE STATE STATUTES.

WHAT, WHAT ARE THE, UM, WHAT ARE THE POWERS OF THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, THEY THAT MAY HELP THEM OUT? SO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS IN NORTH CAROLINA HAVE A NUMBER OF POWERS THAT ARE SET OUT IN THE STATUTE.

UM, AND IN THOSE POWERS THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO PURCHASE PROPERTY PLAN, UM, ALL KINDS OF ADOPT PLANS, EXECUTE CONTRACTS.

THEY ALSO HAVE THE ABILITY TO, UM, ACQUIRE CONTRACTS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.

AND IN THE PAST, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THIS COMMISSION HAS RETAINED SERVICES TO, UM, SOLICIT GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.

I'M NOT SURE IF I, HER NAME'S ESCAPING ME.

UM, BUT I'M NOT SURE IF ANY OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES MATERIALIZE OR IF THOSE APPLICATIONS WERE SUCCESSFUL.

BUT THAT IS AN ENDEAVOR THAT THE COMMISSION HAS EXPLORED IN THE PAST.

JUST, UH, THAT WAS THE CITY'S GRANT.

YEAH.

NOTHING, NOTHING.

SO REAL QUICK BEFORE WE MOVE ON, I THINK I WANNA BE, I WANNA MAKE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE FUNDING FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION, NOT INCLUDE THAT POSITION, BUT YOU HAVE STAFF MEMBERS THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY THERE COMMITTED TO WORK YOU TO DO SO, YOUR EYES, NOTHING HAS REALLY CHANGED.

THAT'S JUST, THAT'S THE FIRST I HEARD.

AND, AND, AND JEFF, I GUESS FIRST OF ALL, APPRECIATE YOU GUYS PUTTING THIS TOGETHER NEEDED.

UM, WELL, SO, AND I DON'T, I'M WANT BE JUST AS PROACTIVE AS POSSIBLE.

HOWEVER, I THINK THAT, UM, THAT KIND OF NOT FORMING THAT OR, OR SUPPLYING THAT POSITION, YOU GOTTA HAVE PEOPLE AND STAFF THAT DO THE WORK THAT, UM, THE ADMINISTRATORS, SPEAKING OF, I, I'VE SPOKEN TO THE SEVERAL TIMES AND SHE'S PUBLICLY TOLD ME, EVEN SENT AN EMAIL.

I DON'T THINK HR HAS APPROACHED HER WITH A NEW JOB.

WE NEED JOB DESCRIPTION.

SO WHEN YOU'RE SAYING WE HAVE AN ADMINISTRATOR, SHE'S TELLING ME THAT THAT'S NOT POSITION SO CLEAR ON THAT SHE'S TOLD TO SEND AN EMAIL.

SO I DON'T, SHE WORKS, SHE WORKS AT THE PLEASURE OF MANAGER.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT'S UNDERSTOOD.

SO IF THAT'S UNDERSTOOD, IT NEEDS TO BE UNDERSTOOD.

AND I THINK TWO, IF YOU NOW PUT YOUR ASSISTANT, UH, SENIOR MANAGER IN PLACE THERE, YOU KNOW, JUST INTERNALLY, YOU GUYS NEED TO FIGURE THAT OUT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, AS, AS HE SAID, I I, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR OTHER PEOPLE, IT'S NOT MY JOB TO DO THAT.

I'LL JUST SAY, UM, DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT PEOPLE IN POSITION TO CONTINUE TO CARRY THIS ON? UH, OR IS IT TRYING KIND OF JUST A, A SEAT TO, TO, TO GET THAT RESPONSIBILITY WITH SOMEBODY AND HOW DOES THAT REALLY LOOK AND CARRYING OUT WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? DO PEOPLE WANT TO DO THAT? IS THAT THEY'RE ORIGINALLY HIRED FOR? THAT'S HOW OUR BUSINESS CAN GET INTO THAT.

BUT I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO STATE BEING THAT HE MADE THAT POINT.

UM, THE REDEVELOPMENT PLAN IS, IS A REALLY GOOD PLAN.

THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN THAT PLAN.

UH, WHEN THAT WAS IMPLEMENTED WITH THE FORMER BOARD, YOU GOT, YOU GUYS HAVE A TOTALLY NEW BOARD NOW.

I GUESS BEFORE I EVEN GET INTO, I THINK WHAT, UH, LANEY FOR WAS VERY BENEFICIAL SWAT ANALYSIS, UH, HELPED ME TO PUT MY TOGETHER AND PUT THEM ON PAPER.

UH, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE GOTTA UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU GUYS WANT.

IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT WHAT WE WANT IF IT'S NOT WHAT YOU WANT.

SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION BEFORE, BECAUSE I I WOULD LIKE TO WALK OUT HERE AND I HOPE EVERYBODY ELSE'S GOAL IS TODAY, IS TO HAVE A PLAN ON WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD.

WE CAN'T CHANGE WHAT HAPPEN.

WE CAN'T CHANGE ALL THE THINGS THAT HAVE TAKEN PLACE.

WE KNOW THE BUMPS, THE ROADS, THAT, THAT, BUT WE NEED TO COLLECTIVELY COME UP WITH A GOAL TODAY.

AND SO HERE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT YOU GUYS TO WORK ON.

SO I GUESS MY FIRST QUESTION AGAIN WOULD BE, WHAT IS IT THAT YOU GUYS WANT BE I WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING.

UM, AND I I YOU REFERENCE TO THE EXECUTIVE VE OKAY.

BECAUSE, AND THE REASON WHY I SAY THAT BECAUSE GOING BACK TO THE DEVELOP COMMISSION, YOU HAVE HAD THREE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS.

SO YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? YOU DIDN'T HAVE THOSE PEOPLE IN PLACE TO MANAGE COME UP WITH YOUR PROJECT.

LIKE YOU SAID, I IN THERE WITH THAT.

I THINK THERE IS A NEED FOR THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION, BUT AS THE, THE MANAGER SAID THINGS UNFORESEEN AND SEEN, WE COULDN'T PUT OUR BUDGET THIS YEAR.

BUT LEMME ASK THIS QUESTION NOW.

WHAT'S TO SAY THAT NEXT YEAR

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THAT THERE WILL BE A EXECUTIVE DIRECT WITHIN PLACE? ABSOLUTELY.

AND IT'S BASED ON HOW FUNDING IS.

AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE ALWAYS LOOK FOR.

YES.

AND AGAIN, I I DON'T WANT THAT YOU GUYS VOTED ON IT IS A DONE DEAL.

WE'RE NOT GONNA HAVE NOW I UNDERSTAND THAT.

I'M JUST SAYING AGAIN, I I'M VERY DIRECT.

I DON'T WANNA WASTE YOUR TIME.

I DON'T WASTE MY TIME.

LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE THAT YOU PUT IN THOSE POSITIONS ARE ULTIMATE TO BE WORKERS.

WELL AGAIN, THEY WORK MANAGER.

IF THE MANAGER GIVEN DIRECTION, WHETHER IT'S WANNA YOU SAID SOMETHING THAT I'M NOT SURE, MAKE SURE WE'RE THE SAME PAGE REDEVELOP COMMISSION PLANS PUT TOGETHER, TOGETHER.

WELL, IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS ADOPTED BY FEBRUARY 11TH.

WE APPROVED, BUT THAT CLAIM WAS PUT TOGETHER BY ARREST.

GOT IT.

AND SO, SO UNDERSTANDING THAT I, I THINK WE STILL WORK AT THE BUILDING BOARD, UNDERSTANDING THIS IS A DECISION MAKING BOARD.

AGAIN, MY MY PROPOSED QUESTION IS THE CURRENT BOARD THAT IS SITTING NOW, WHAT DO YOU GUYS WANNA SEE? AND I THINK THAT WOULD HELP ME TO, TO GET INTO MY CONVERSATION AND WHAT WAS REQUESTED FROM US.

I WAS TO SAY, HEY, HERE'S WHAT WE'VE KIND OF TALKED ABOUT, OR AT LEAST I TALKED ABOUT WITH DIFFERENT INDIVIDUALS.

SO WE CAN WALK OUTTA HERE AND AT LEAST HAVE A PLAN OR YOU WRITE YOU, SO AGAIN, MY PROPOSED, YOU CAN ANSWER PLAN THAT'S ON PAPER.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE DISAGREE WITH THAT? THEY SHOULD IMPLEMENT THE PLAN THAT'S ON PAPER THAT THE BOARD OF IS THAT WHAT PUT THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING.

SO FOR ME COMING IN, AND I, AND I'VE HEARD AND I'VE HEARD MULTIPLE TIMES THAT THERE'S NOT BEEN A CONVERSATION WITH AN ADMIN PROJECT FOR ME COMING IN, ALL I CAN DO IS GO BY WHAT WAS HANDED TO ME.

THE FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR SEND ME A DOCUMENT THAT HAD AN EXECUTIVE BRIEFING THAT GAVE OUT AN OUTLINE OF ALL THE THINGS THAT WERE BEING WORKED ON.

SO ME COMING TO THE BOARD AND BEING ONE OF THE NEWEST MEMBERS, I THINK THAT YOU THINK WAS COMING AFTER ME.

MY FRAMEWORK WAS LOOKING AT THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY.

ALRIGHT, THE MOST ATTRACTIVE THING IN THAT EXECUTIVE SUMMARY TO ME SEEMED TO BE THE AVENUES PROJECT.

REASON BEING IS THAT IS WHERE THE MOST CLUSTER OF HOMES AND SITE CONTROL IS BASED ON WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

SO THERE HAS BEEN SOME WORK, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S BEEN REPORTED TO YOU GUYS OR YOU GUYS KNOW, BUT THERE WAS A PHASE ONE DONE.

WE HAD AN ENVIRONMENTAL STUDY THAT WAS DONE.

UH, THE GENTLEMAN, UH, I MET WITH THE GENTLEMAN, UH, HE'S COME DOWN, HE WENT, MET WITH MYSELF, MR. DI HUNT, UH, DIA AND MARVIN.

SO THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A PHASE ONE DONE.

THERE WAS PHASE ONE DONE ON THOSE PROPERTIES.

SO, UH, THERE WAS ALSO SOME CONCEPTIONS IN THE PHASE TWO THAT KIND OF, I THINK WHEN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR LEFT, THAT KIND OF GOT DROPPED WHERE IT HAS NOT CONTINUED TO MOVE FORWARD.

IN MY OPINION.

THIS CURRENT BOARD THAT IS A PROJECT THAT WE REALLY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON IS THE AVENUES PROJECT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE.

THERE'S ABOUT SEVEN PARCELS IN PARCELS, UH, THAT WE CURRENTLY ON.

HOW DO WE GO ABOUT GETTING THOSE THINGS DEVELOPED? DO WE, IS THE OBJECTIVE FROM YOU GUYS OR TO MORE SITE CONTROL, UH, TO, TO TO TO, TO PURCHASE MORE OF THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE OVER THERE? THE PROBLEM WITH THAT BECOMES NOW YES, THERE'S A MINIMUM HOUSING REQUIREMENT ISSUES WITH ALL OF THE HOUSES OVER THERE.

WHERE DO THESE PEOPLE GO? SO IF WE'RE FORCING THEM FORCING OR MAKING THEM FOLLOW THE RULES OR CONTACT THE LANDLORDS OR WHATEVER THAT LOOKS LIKE, WHERE ARE THESE PEOPLE GOING? I MEAN, THAT IS A HUGE QUESTION THAT I HAVE.

AND SO GOAL WISE, IT SEEMS THAT THE AVENUES PROJECT IS, IS THIS BOARD CAN MAKE THE BIGGEST IMPACT.

THAT THERE ARE ALSO INDIVIDUAL PARCELS THAT ARE IN, UH, DUCKING FIELD THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED BASED ON THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY THAT I RECEIVED FROM THE FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

AND AGAIN, I'M NOT AN ADVOCATE, I DON'T BE CLEAR PUSHING ME ON AGENDA, I'M JUST GOING BY THE DOCUMENT I WAS PROVIDED BASED ON THAT INFORMATION.

UH, IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THERE'S A LIST OF, UH, LOCAL DEVELOPERS, LOCAL CONTRACTORS THAT HAVE MORE PROPERTY HERE IN THIS AREA.

IT SEEMS THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING WITH THOSE FOLKS TO CONTINUE WHAT THEY ARE TRYING TO DO, UH, AND WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN DOING.

THE ISSUES AND THE BARRIERS IN REGARDS TO THAT IS THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN US AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND US AND SOME OF THE CITY, UH, DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER SO THAT IT'S NOT NECESSARILY HERE YOU CANNOT DO THIS, BUT HERE IS THE WAY TO DO THIS.

UH, THE AVENUES PROJECT.

I KNOW THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION IN REGARDS TO SITE CONTROL AS YOU GUYS OBJECTIVE LOOKS TO HAVE SITE CONTROL OVER CERTAIN AREAS SO THAT WE CAN POTENTIALLY MAKE IT ATTRACTIVE OR COME IN.

IS THERE SOMETHING TO LOOK AT ON BROAD STREET? ARE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARE THERE? WHEN

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YOU LOOK AT THAT, YOU, YOU, YOU, WE TALK ABOUT ONE AREA, BUT WHEN I LOOKED AT THE GIS THERE'S ACTUALLY, UH, TWO DIFFERENT AREAS OF TWO DIFFERENT OWNERS.

SO THERE'S UH, ONE OWNER IN THE FRONT AND THEN THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP THAT OWNS IT IN THE BACK.

SO YOU REALLY NEED CONTROL THE WHOLE PARCEL IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT A STRING FOR ME.

AND, AND, AND WHAT, UH, LANEY ASKED FOR IS, YOU KNOW, THE BOYS AND GIRLS CLUB IS COMING ON THE CORNER THERE, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT AREA.

IT SEEMS THAT THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD FOCUS IN ON.

AND THEN LAST THING FOR ME IS IN REGARDS TO THE, THE PARCELS THAT ARE IN W FIELD, UM, THERE'S A LIST AND THEN I CAN PROVIDE IT TO YOU GUYS THAT WAS GIVEN.

HOW DO WE MAKE THIS ATTRACTIVE? HOW DO WE, THERE'S ANOTHER, UH, A COMPANY, IT'S CALLED UH, PRESERVATION, UH, HOMES, UH, THAT WAS LISTED THAT DOES A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.

AND SO THEY WERE VERY INTERESTED IN COMING TO NEWBURN.

UM, BUT AGAIN, JUST TO WALK OUT HERE WITH A CLEAR GOAL OF WHAT YOU GUYS ARE GONNA SEE, WHETHER SITE CONTROL, WHETHER IT'S WORKING INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE TO TO, TO DEAL.

WE CAN'T DEAL.

IS IT THE APPETITE OF THE BOARD TO DO MODULE HOMES? IF NOT, THEN HOW DO WE WORK WITH THESE INDIVIDUAL PEOPLE TO TAKE WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE, WHICH IS ABOUT SEVEN EIGHT APPROXIMATELY, AND GET SOMETHING MOVING IN THAT AREA.

HOW DO WE GET YOU GUYS? OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

FIRST OF ALL, I APOLOGIZE BEING SORRY.

GET MYSELF ENVIRONMENTALLY SAFE TO COME IN HERE.

IN ITS TOTALITY, UH, THE FACT WE HAVE NOT, AND WE DO NOT HAVE A HOUSING PROJECT IN PLACE FOR THE AVENUES PROJECT.

WE MAY HAVE DONE SOME HOMEWORK, WE MAY HAVE SOME INFORMATION, BUT IT HAS NOT BECOME A HOUSING PROJECT IN ITS TOTALITY.

THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS NOT STARTED AND COMPLETED NOT ONE SINGLE HOUSING PROJECT FROM BEGINNING TO END AS IT RELATES TO BUILDING A PROPERTY AND COMPLETING IT, PERIOD.

WE HAVE MOVED HOUSES AND HOUSES AROUND, UH, AND, AND THANKS TO SOME VERY GRACIOUS FOLKS AND TO SOME OTHER PROPERTIES THAT HAVE COME UNDER THE AUSPICE OF THE CITY, WHICH WAS GIVEN TO THE REDEVELOPMENT, WHICH WE WERE ABLE TO FULFILL.

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GOVERNMENT MONEY AND PUBLIC MONEY AND REAL MONEY.

BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS, IT'S NOT JUST AT THE DISCRETION OF THE BOARD OF WHAT YOU ALL WANT TO SEE DONE AND WHAT YOU ALL NEED.

IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY NEEDS AND WHAT THERE IS A NEED FOR.

AND THERE IS A NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THERE'S A WAY TO GET IT AND THERE'S A WAY TO DO IT.

AND I DO UNDERSTAND THAT AS I LOOK AROUND, I'VE SEEN THE THREE EXECUTIVE DIRECTORS AND THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION HAS BEEN ON A ROLLERCOASTER AND HAS UP AND DOWN AND EVERY SINGLE FACET AS IT RELATES TO WHO THE EXECUTIVE DIRECT WAS.

THERE WERE SOME THAT HAD STRENGTHS HERE, THERE WERE SOME THAT HAD WEAKNESSES HERE AND THERE, AND THEN THERE WERE SOME THAT HAD STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES HERE, THERE AND EVERYWHERE.

SO, SO, BUT WE STILL ARE IN A LEARNING TYPE OF DISPOSITION AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY NOW.

WE WERE ON A GOOD PATH AND WE'RE STILL ON A GOOD PATH.

AND WITH THIS BOARD WE CAN CONTINUE TO BE ON A GOOD PATH, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO GET SOME SMALL VICTORIES.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY NOT JUST WHAT YOU ALL NEED, BUT WHAT YOU REQUIRE AS IT RELATES TO WHAT YOU WANT TO SEE DONE FOR YOUR COMMUNITIES, FOR YOUR WARDS AND WHAT'S MOST FEASIBLE.

WE HAVE PEOPLE HERE THAT CAN LET YOU KNOW WHAT IS ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.

WE HAVE PROFESSIONALS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE NEEDS.

BUT UNTIL YOU GET THROUGH THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA, WALK IT LIVING AND UNDERSTAND THAT YOU CAN'T JUST SIT HERE AND JUST SAY WHAT THEY NEED UNTIL YOU SEE WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND SEE THE MULTI-GENERATIONAL HOUSING THAT'S GOING ON WHERE YOU SEE GRANDMOTHERS, GREAT-GRANDMOTHERS RAISING THEIR GREAT GRANDCHILDREN

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AND GRANDCHILDREN WITH ONE TRASH CAN, ONE RECYCLABLE CAN, THAT'S A PART OF LIVING, THAT'S A PART OF WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

WHEN YOU HAVE CHILDREN THAT ARE WAKING UP THAT DON'T HAVE BROADBAND AND WHEN THEY WAKE UP AND WHEN THEY WALK OUTSIDE AND WHEN THEY SEE TRASH AND WHEN THEY HAVE TO WALK TO GO WHERE THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE NOT SAFE.

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE REDEVELOPMENT, NOT JUST HOUSING, NOT JUST IN ED, NOT JUST RECREATION.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HEALTH WELLNESS.

AND THERE HAVE BEEN SOME GOOD THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

NOW THERE WERE SOME EDS THAT WERE BIG ON OPTICS AND THERE WERE SOME THAT WE HAD THE HEALTH, AND I'M TALKING ABOUT WE HAD SOME MASSIVE NEIGHBORHOOD CLEANUPS.

THE VERY LAST CLEANUP THAT WE HAD WAS NOT A SUCCESSFUL EVENT, BUT THERE WAS ONE WE HAD WHERE WE HAD THE EAR AND WE HAD THE HELP OF THE COUNTY, THE CITY DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS.

UH, WE HAD PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAD DEPARTMENT OF RECREATION, WE HAD PEOPLE COMING IN, WE HAD TRANSFER TRUCKS, WE HAD EVERYTHING THAT WE NEEDED.

BUT I THINK THAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION NEEDS, THERE'S ANYTHING GOING ON IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

I THINK THAT EVERY SINGLE ISSUE THAT COMES THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS NEEDS TO BE KNOWN TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IF IT IS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA.

THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION NEEDS TO KNOW ABOUT WHETHER IT BE SAND BEING BOARDED, THE HENDERSON PARK, WHETHER IT BE WHAT THE NEW PLANS ARE FOR HENDERSON PARK, WHETHER IT BE THE ROADS THAT ARE BEING PA, THE ROADS THAT ARE BEING CLOSED OFF, THE ROADS THAT ARE BEING CLOSED OFF, THAT ARE GONNA BE PERMIT, AND THOSE THAT ARE NOT GONNA BE PERMANENT, WHETHER IT BE WEST STREET, DUFFY FIELD.

WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THERE ARE, UH, THE RETENTION PONDS THAT HAVE NOT BEEN ROPED OFF AND NOT BEEN SECURED PROPERLY, RIGHT BEHIND DUFFY FIELD SCHOOL, WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON ON THE RAILROAD TRACKS ON EAST ROAD STREET.

WE NEED TO KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

DUFFY FIELD USED TO BE HOMEOWNERS AND WE NEED TO MAKE PEOPLE HOMEOWNERS AGAIN.

AND WE CAN, AND WHEN I GOT ON THIS BOARD, THERE WERE 106 PARCELS OF LAND IN THE DUFFY FIELD AREA ALONE THAT THE CITY OWNED.

WHETHER THEY HAD DILAPIDATED HOMES ON 'EM, WHETHER THEY WERE VACANT PROPERTIES.

BUT THEN THE CITY STARTED TO CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTIES BEFORE THEY STARTED ASKING OTHERS.

WE HAD THE ABATEMENT WITH THE UH, CARS AND WE GOT THAT DOWN TO I THINK MAYBE IN THE TEENS, BUT NOW WE'RE BACK UP.

I'VE KIND OF IN THE FORTIES OF CARS THAT ARE NOT TAGGED THAT ARE ALLOWED TO SITTING IN PROPERTIES THERE.

IT'S, IT'S ABOUT THE OPTIONS.

AND IF YOU'RE NOT LIVING IT AND IF YOU'RE NOT RIDING THROUGH, HOW CAN YOU MAKE A DECISION FOR SOMEBODY WHEN YOU DON'T KNOW HOW THEY'RE LIVING AND WHAT THEY'RE GOING THROUGH.

SUMMER DIFFERENT, ALL HITS, DIFFERENT KIDS HIT DIFFERENT.

AND WHEN KIDS DON'T HAVE DIFFERENT THINGS TO GO DO, THEY'RE GONNA FIND SOMETHING TO DO.

WHETHER IT BE WITH RETENTION BONDS, WHETHER IT BE THROWING ROCKS, WHETHER IT BE JUST FINDING SOMETHING ELSE TO GET INTO.

BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY WITH WHAT THE NEEDS ARE ALONG WITH WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

WE'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

OTHER CITIES, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEWBURN NORTH CAROLINA, HOW BROWN, WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT TOMATOES TOO MUCH.

WE DON'T WORRY ABOUT MUDSLIDES, FLOODS, WE GET THE RUNOFF.

HURRICANES, WE GET SEVEN DAYS TO PREPARE FOR IT.

WE GET GOOD WEATHER.

WE GOT SOME OF THE BEST PEOPLE REPRESENTING US THAT I'VE EVER SEEN IN MY LIFE.

BUT WE GOTTA GET OUT THERE AND WE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE IDENTIFY WITH WHAT WE NEED, WHAT'S GOING ON.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED SOME HEALTH AND WELLNESS.

WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD VICTORIES, WE'VE HAD SOME SMALL VICTORIES, BUT WE'VE HAD SOME MAJOR VICTORIES IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA IN THE LAST 24 MONTHS, IN THE LAST 12 MONTHS, IN THE LAST 18 MONTHS.

AND THERE'S NO REASON WHY IT HAS TO STOP.

WE JUST HAVE TO MAKE

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SURE THAT WE GO NOW THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND THAT WE IDENTIFY WITH WHAT WE NEED, WE GOT PEOPLE THAT ARE COUNT HE'LL, HE'LL COUNT THE COINS, HE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT JUST WASTING MONEY AND IT'S JUST NOT ON HIM.

AND WHEN I SAY HIM, I'M JUST POINT GABRIEL BECAUSE I JUST LOVE HIM LIKE THAT.

BUT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME TEAM, THAT WE ARE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE AND THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THE SAME GOAL.

AND IN AS MUCH AS I AGREE WITH MR. STEWART, THAT WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT YOU ALL WANT.

BUT WE HAVE TO KNOW WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA REQUIRES AND WHAT'S GONNA BENEFIT IT.

AND YEAH, I KNOW WHAT'S GONNA PAPER MR. MAYOR AND THAT WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHAT ON A PAPER, BUT WE ALSO HAVE REAL LIFE SITUATIONS THAT WE DEAL IN AND REAL LIFE SITUATIONS CHANGE EVERY DAY.

ONCE AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR ATTORNEY.

THANK YOU ALL FOR LISTENING AND THANK YOU .

SO YOU'RE SAYING, YOU'RE SAYING THAT WHEN THERE'S PROJECTS OR ANYTHING IS GOING ON WITHIN THE CITY THAT'S DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOODS THAT THE RC HAS NOT BEEN MADE AWARE OF? ANY OF THAT? I'M NOT.

THE ROAD CLOSING IS IN, UH, CORRECT.

TRASH PICKUP.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

CORRECT.

SO, AND WE'VE HAD ISSUES AND I HAVE GONE OUT PERSONALLY AND I'VE SPOKEN TO SEE, I BELIEVE IN PUTTING THE RIGHT PERSON IN THE RIGHT POSITION IN THE GAME AT THE RIGHT TIME.

AND I'M NOT A CONTRACTOR.

I'M NOT A ER AND I DON'T THINK A LOT OF US ARE, BUT WE WERE PUT IN A POSITION WHERE WE WERE TRYING TO DO JOBS THAT WERE NOT IN OUR WHEELHOUSE.

MY STRENGTH IS KNOWING MY COMMUNITY.

MY STRENGTH IS KNOWING MY NEIGHBORS.

MY STRENGTH IS GROWING UP THERE AND BEING ON EVERY SINGLE STREET KNOWING WHAT IT, WHAT THE, WHERE EVERYTHING HAS BEEN, WHERE EVERYTHING'S BEEN.

AND IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE'RE NOT LOOKING FOR PROGRESS, BUT WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP OUR COMMUNITY INVOLVED AND MAKE THEM FEEL SPECIAL, BUT ALSO KEEP THEM INVOLVED TO WHERE WE'RE JUST NOT BRINGING THINGS UPON THEM AND NOT TELLING THEM AND NOT ALERTING THEM.

WHETHER IT BE BY MAIL, BY FLYER, BY SOMEONE COMING OUT OR BY A REPRESENTATIVE, WHOEVER NEEDS TO LET THEM KNOW, HEY, WE'RE ABOUT TO CLOSE THIS ROAD OFF.

IT'S GONNA BE CLOSED OFF TEMPORARILY OR IT'S GONNA BE CLOSED OFF PERMANENTLY.

BECAUSE THERE HAVE BEEN CERTAIN ROAD THAT HAVE BEEN OPENED FOR 30, 40 YEARS AND HAVE BEEN PAID FOR LESS THAN THAT, THAT ARE NOW CLOSED OFF.

AND NO ONE ALERTED THEM.

THERE HAVE BEEN CUL-DE-SACS THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT THAT STARTED OFF TO BE JUST DEAD ENDS WITH NO SIGNS, NO SIGNAGE AND JUST ALL OF A SUDDEN BLOCKED AND YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH.

BUT THE COMMUNITY AND I HAVE GONE AND SPOKE TO SOME OF THOSE HOMEOWNERS AND THEY ARE HOMEOWNERS AND NOT JUST RENTERS AND THEY HAVE SAID, NO ONE CAME AND TOLD US, NO ONE SAID ANYTHING TO US.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

AND WHEN I SHOW UP, THEY JUST WANT TO TALK AND THEY JUST WANT TO FEEL IMPORTANT.

THEY WANNA FEEL LIKE THEY MATTER.

THEY FEEL LIKE THEIR CHILDREN MATTER AND THAT IT'S A SAFE ENVIRONMENT AND THAT THEY CAN MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE NOT JUST PAYING THEIR TAXES AND BEING FORGOTTEN.

PEOPLE, YOU DON'T GET ANY ATTENTION UNTIL YOU HAVE BECOME BLACK.

IT'S NOT A GOOD WORD, BUT THAT IS THE STIGMA.

WELL THAT'S, NO, THAT'S THE, THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED AS BECAUSE WE WERE NOT GONNA BE AND GET ANY ATTENTION UNTIL WE ACCEPTED BEING BLIND.

THE AREA IS BLIND PERIOD.

BUT THE AREA AND WHEN THERE'S SOME ATTENTION AND WHEN THERE IS SOME NEW PAVING, WHEN THERE'S, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE AND WHAT'S GOING ON THERE AND THEY FEEL LIKE SOMEONE CARES.

SOMEONE IS PAYING US SOME ATTENTION.

BUT A LOT OF TIMES WHEN THEY SEE THOSE GUYS AND THEY COME UP WITH THE TRASH TRUCKS AND WHEN THEY GO DUMP THE CANES AND THE TRASH FALLS OUT BECAUSE IT'S OVERFLOWED, THEY DON'T GET OUT AND THEY'RE NOT GOING AND COVERING IT UP, THEY'RE NOT GOING AND PICKING IT UP AND PUTTING IT UP.

IT STAYS OUT THERE NOW.

NOW I THOUGHT THERE WAS A COMMUNITY, TA PERSON, SEVEN PERSON PEOPLE BLOCK CAPTAINS BLOCK GANG OF BLOCK CAPTAIN THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING FOR ALL THIS STUFF AND REPORTING THIS STUFF TO, TO THE CITY OR TO THE .

THERE ARE BLOCK CAPTAINS,

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THERE ARE DIFFERENT, UH, THERE ARE, THERE'S A PHOENIX GROUP, THERE'S A DEPUTY RESIDENCE COUNCIL, THE BLOCK CAPTAINS AND THERE ARE CERTAIN OTHER GROUPS THAT YEAH, BUT WE STILL HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE VIDING THEM AND INGRATIATING THEM IN MEETING WITH THEM.

WE DON'T JUST HAVE TO SAY, THIS IS YOUR JOB, IT'S A NON-PAYING JOB, BUT BECAUSE YOU WANT TO BE A PART OF IT, COME LET US KNOW WHEN YOU WANT US TO DO SOMETHING.

WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING THAT ATTRACTIVE FOR THEM TO WANT TO HELP US TO HELP MAKE THEIR LIVING SITUATION BETTER.

BECAUSE WE'VE ASKED THEM.

WELL THAT'S WHY WE, THEY CONTACT THE CITY, THEY CONTACT ME IF YOUR BLOCK CAPTAINS, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, OR YOU, I CAN'T SEE WHAT THE BLOCK CAPTAINS HAVE AND HAVE NOT DONE.

OKAY.

I KNOW A BLOCK, A LOT OF BLOCK CAPTAINS HAVE COME IN, CONTACTED ME ALONG WITH SOME OF THE, I'LL FINISH, EXCUSE ME, CONTACT ME.

AND THERE'S AN ISSUE OVER FIVE.

AND I KNOW, AND I HAVE TO SAY THIS MUCH AS WELL, THE CITY DOES ADVERTISE.

WE HAVE PUBLIC HEARING AND IT'S ON OUR AGENDA WHEN THERE'S ROAD COMES IN.

OKAY.

THAT IS KNOWN UNTIL THE PUBLIC, BUT THE PUBLIC DON'T GET INVOLVED AND PUBLIC IS NOT LISTENING.

THE PUBLIC IS NOT WATCHING.

AND THE BUT THAT IS ADVERTISED BY THE CITY.

I MEAN WE GOT ONE COMING UP TONIGHT.

I'M CERTAINLY LET THEM KNOW, KNOW THAT I HEARD IT COME FROM ALL INVEST HEARD LONG ALL YOU KNOW THAT BEFORE YOU REACH OUT TO ME.

BUT THEY WOULD KNOW TO HEAR IT COMING FROM YOU WHEN, WHEN THEY COME TO YOU, NO DO NOT, NO, BUT THEY, IT'S NOT BURDEN.

YOU SEND IT TO ME.

BUT NO, IT'S NOT A BURDEN TO ME.

BUT THEY LOVE TO HEAR IT COMING FROM YOU, WHETHER IT BE ON A FLYER, WHETHER IT BE ON ANYTHING OR WHETHER MAYBE IF THEY JUST SEE YOU RIDING THROUGH THE ALL THE TIME.

I'M NOT SAYING YOU DON'T OKAY, BUT STATEMENT NO, NO, NO, NO.

I SAID THAT THEY WOULD LOVE TO SEE YOU OKAY.

RIDING THROUGH AND SO THAT THEY CAN APPROACH YOU OR MAYBE EVEN WALKING THROUGH AND THEN IT IS JUST NOT RIDING THROUGH IN THE PAPER.

I'M OVER THERE ALL THE TIME MEETING CITIZENS OR ADDRESSING AGREE ADDRESSING PROBLEMS ALL.

SO PLEASE SEND THEM TO ME.

WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE SUBJECT BACK TO IS THE SUBJECT OF HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS MY PASSION.

UM, MR. GIE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT ASPECT OF THIS BOARD, UM, QUITE A LOT.

UH, BECAUSE HUMAN DEVELOPMENT NEEDS TO BE COINCIDENTAL WITH THE MAN DEVELOPMENT AND GETTING PEOPLE TO COMMUNICATE IN THE RIGHT PEOPLE THE RIGHT TIME AND THE GAME TO GET THINGS MOVING AND KNOW THAT THINGS ARE MOVING IN WHAT DIRECTION.

THAT'S WHAT I HEAR YOU SAYING AS YOU GUYS ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS, THIS NECESSITY FOR HUMAN DEVELOPMENT, UM, REGARDING THE A PROJECT.

I FEEL LIKE I HEAR FROM SEVERAL PEOPLE THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE COME AWAY WITH WITH UM, I'VE HAD SMALL INDIVIDUAL CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE ADVOCACY PROJECT.

IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF SUPPORT FOR THAT.

AM I CORRECT? THIS IS A GREAT PROJECT.

YEAH.

SO I THINK THAT WE SHOULD, WE SHOULD TAKE THAT AND RUN WITH IT AND UM, AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW, UM, IS THERE A NECESSITY FOR YOU ALL TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF SPECIAL, UM, YOU KNOW, EVENT WHERE YOU GUYS CAN GET TOGETHER WITH CERTAIN DEPARTMENT HEADS AND GET A COUPLE OF IMPORTANT PIECES OF INFORMATION FROM THEM TO LAY THE GROUNDWORK FOR THE AVENUE PROJECT, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN UM, THE UH, UM, WHAT IS, WHAT IS A RETREAT, RIGHT? LIKE, UM, LIKE A WORKING DAY WITH A COUPLE OF REALLY RELATED GOALS TO THE PROJECT.

UM, ALSO I DO WANT TO POINT OUT THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR YOU GUYS TO USE YOUR MONEY IN YOUR BUDGET TO HIRE A, AN EXECUTIVE PRESSURE, UM, AND THINK THAT IT COULD BE A GOOD USE OF MONEY.

BUT I DUNNO HOW YOU GUYS BUILD ALL THAT.

UM, BUT THAT IS UNDER YOUR PURVIEW AND UM, I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT TO KNOW FROM YOU WHAT YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE YOU NEED IN A CHAIR AND ANY WAY THAT WE CAN HELP DEVELOP, UM, LEADERSHIP IN TERMS OF WHAT A CHAIRMAN OR WOMAN NEEDS TO DO, UM, THEN WE CAN CERTAINLY WORK TO DO THAT, RIGHT? UM, YES.

SO ON ON ON THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR, UM, COMMENT, CERTAINLY, UH, THE BOARD OF MOND WOULD'VE TO MAKE THAT DECISION, UM, IF THEY WANTED TO REPORT, WE WANTED TO TRANSFER FUNDS

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RECOGNITION BUDGET TO COVER THAT.

I THINK THE CHALLENGE WITH DOING THAT WOULD BE THAT VARIES FROM YEAR TO YEAR.

SO IF THAT TEMPORARY, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT RDC HAS NO REVENUE STREAM.

CORRECT.

AND THERE'S NO WAY FOR YOU GUYS TO HAVE A REVENUE STREAM OTHER THAN WHEN YOU SELL PROPERTY.

WHEN YOU SELL PROPERTY, YOU CAN TAKE THAT FUNDING AND THAT THAT MONEY ESSENTIALLY YOU'RE REPLENISH.

IT'S YOU YOU CAME TO THE BOARD HYPOTHETICALLY AND SAID, WE ARE VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT EXECUTIVE REGULAT.

WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS BOARD.

WE NEED AN ED FULL TIME.

YOU PRESENT THAT TO THE BOARD, THE BOARD GONNA HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

WE TRANSFER MONEY FROM ONE FUND TO ANOTHER NEXT YEAR.

THAT PROCESS STARTS.

AND TO FIND SOMEBODY TO COME IN AND TAKE THAT JOB KNOWING THAT HOW JOB WAS CREATED IS PROBABLY GONNA CHALLENGE.

NOW YOU CAN FIND CONTRACT BASIS TO COME IN AND SAY, I'LL GIVE YOU SIX MONTHS, I'LL EVALUATE THIS.

AND THEY CAN SAY, YOU KNOW WHAT, SIX MONTHS? WELL I WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY WE'VE GOT MARVIN IN PLACE AND WE HAVE STAFF AND SOME STAFF IN PLACE.

I WOULD BE THE FIRST ONE TO SAY THAT IF THAT'S OVERWHELMING AND YOU GUYS GET SO BUSY AND THINGS ARE HAPPENING OVER THERE, THAT'S MORE THAN A MARVIN CAN HANDLE, I'D BE THE FIRST ONE TO RECOMMEND CITY HIRING EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR.

BUT RIGHT NOW I THINK IT'D BE GREAT IF WE START THINGS OUT AND THEN MARVIN CONTINUE DOING WHAT HE'S DOING UNTIL WE GET SOME PROJECTS ROLLING.

I GOT ANOTHER QUESTION.

THE EIGHT PROPERTIES, I'M SORRY, I DUNNO.

THE ANSWER TO THIS IS THE EIGHT PROPERTIES THAT YOU OWN ON AVERAGE IS, ARE THEY VACANT LOTS? SO CAN WE, CAN WE NOT GO AHEAD AND, AND WHAT WOULD IT TAKE IS YOU NEED A, AN ARCHITECT TO COME IN AND DO A DESIGN OR SOMETHING.

I MEAN WE HAD MONEY, WE HAD MONEY TO BUILD THE PROPERTY OURSELF.

WE HIRE CONTRACT CONTRACTORS.

SO WHY CAN'T WE HAVE GENERAL CONTRACTORS COME IN AND LOOK AT THE PROPERTY AND LET THEM MAKE A DESIGN ON SOMETHING THAT THEY WOULD PUT ON THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY RATHER THAN US TRYING TO GO OUT AND TRYING TO SWERVE ON.

THAT'S EASY TO DO.

WHY CAN'T WE START WAY? THAT'S GREAT QUESTION.

I'M SORRY.

WHY CAN'T WE START THAT BY WAY TO HAVE SOMEONE COME IN AND SAY, HEY, I BUILT HOMES OR PROPERTIES OF THIS SIZE OF THIS DEMEANOR AND THIS KIND OF, UH, OF REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND SO WHY CAN'T WE SUBMIT WHAT WE WOULD DO AND PUT ON THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY AND THEN IT BE APPROVED OR EITHER DENIED AND THEN WE GO AHEAD AND JUST LIKE WE DID STOP TRYING DEAL.

SO, SO LET, LEMME PLACE DEVIL'S ADVOCATE.

THEY, YOU HAVE A MEETING TOMORROW NIGHT, OKAY, YOU GUYS ARE GONNA LET THE CHAIR VICE, YOU'RE GONNA START WITH THESE.

YOU DECIDE, YOU KNOW WHAT, WE ALREADY OWN THESE PROPERTIES.

WE HAVE SOME MONEY, LET'S GO BUY A COUPLE.

YOU, YOU CAN'T, WE ALREADY ESTABLISHED THAT YOU GOTTA SELL WHAT THE PROCESS GONNA BE SELL OR MORTGAGE THAT POINT SAID YOU A NONPROFIT.

SO I THINK TO THAT, TO THAT POINT, WHAT YOU CAN DO WHEN IT COMES TO, TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, IF YOU BUILD A HOUSE OR YOU GET A CONTRACTOR TO COME BUILD A HOUSE AND THEY WANT IT, OR YOU BUY A MODULAR HOME, YOU PUT IT ON THERE, YOU CAN'T RENT IT, YOU CAN SELL IT, GET PURCHASED PRICE AND PUT IT IN YOUR ACCOUNT.

YOU CAN ALSO, YOU HAVE THE ABILITY IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT YOU CAN DO SELLER FINANCING AND YOU CAN DO SELLER FINANCING IN ONE OF TWO WAYS.

YOU CAN HAVE A SYSTEM IN PLACE WHERE IF YOU HAVE A COUPLE THAT QUALIFIES, I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD WORK WITH COMMUNITY PARTNERS LIKE HABITAT THAT HAS A, THAT HAS A LIST OF PEOPLE NEEDING AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THAT MIGHT NOT BE ABLE TO QUALIFY COMPLETELY FOR A COMMERCIAL LOAN.

YOU COULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO SELLER FINANCING WITH THAT COUPLE AND UH, HAVE THEM PAY THOSE INSTALLMENT UH, PAYMENTS EVERY MONTH.

AND THERE'S A REVENUE STREAM FOR YOU JUST LIKE SELLING A HOUSE.

YOU COULD ALSO WORK WITH A COMMUNITY NONPROFIT, UM, THAT RENTS OUT, THAT DOES VOUCHERS OR RENTS OUT, UH, HOMES TO WORK WITH AN ESTABLISHED NONPROFIT TO HAVE THEM SELL A FINANCE THROUGH YOU AND THEN THEY TURN AROUND AND LEASE IT TO PEOPLE THAT QUALIFY FOR THEIR PROGRAMS. AND SO THOSE ARE TWO WAYS YOU

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CAN CREATE A REVENUE STREAM.

BUT I WANT TO GO BACK REAL QUICK AND REALLY JUST ADDRESS MR. MORGAN.

AND THEN MR. DOUG'S POINT, YOU KNOW WHAT I'VE HEARD, I'M TAKING THAT I HEARD THE CONNECTION FROM RELATIONSHIPS AND THEN COMMUNITY NEEDS.

THAT IS THE, THE REASON YOU ALL SIT ON THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION.

IF YOU LOOK AROUND, Y'ALL ARE COMMUNITY LEADERS IN THE MENT AREAS.

YOU HAVE THE BACKGROUND, YOU HAVE THE RELATIONSHIPS TO BE ABLE TO TALK WITH FOLKS AND RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA AND HELP UNDERSTAND THEIR NEEDS TO ACCOMPLISH WHAT THEY NEED.

AND THEN ALSO TO HELP, WHEN YOU HAVE LANDLORDS THAT ARE MAKING 'EM LIVE IN ABSOLUTE LUMS, YOU CAN WORK WITH THEM TO SAY, WELL LET'S PUT TOGETHER A REPORT AND DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COMES IN THERE AND STARTS TO DOING STRATEGIC ENFORCEMENT OR MINIMUM HOUSING BOARD.

AND SO THAT ADDRESSES UH, COMMISSIONER UH, STEWART'S ISSUE.

WHERE YOU GONNA PUT PEOPLE WHEN THEY GET KICKED OUT? IF YOU HAVE EIGHT VACANT LOTS AND YOU PUT TWO MODULAR HOMES ON AND YOU'RE ABLE TO SELL THE FIGHT IN ONE OF THOSE TWO WAYS.

I'VE EXPRESSED TO YOU WHEN YOU GET KICKED OUT, YOU NOW HAVE AN INVENTORY OF HOUSING THAT, BUT WHAT I THINK Y'ALL NEED TO LOOK AT AND I IN MY OPENING COMMENTS, SORRY, DO YOU WANNA SAY SOMETHING? YOU GUYS KEEP TALKING ABOUT HOUSING PEOPLE GETTING KICKED OUT ONCE AGO, GET KICKED OUT RENTING.

SO WHAT DO YOU DO WITH THOSE PEOPLE THAT ARE RENTING? AND THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING IS I THINK IF YOU ARE ABLE TO, WE HAVE A, WE HAVE AN ISSUE WITH AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND REPORT.

IF YOU ARE ABLE, YOU KNOW, IN THESE AREAS YOU HAVE VACANT LOT.

I SEE IT AS REALLY THREE OPTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO THESE LOTS.

YOU HAVE SOME LOTS THAT ARE NOT BILLABLE THAT ON A FLOOD PLAIN, THAT THEY CAN BE REINCORPORATED INTO THE STORM WATER MITIGATION IN THAT AREA.

IF YOU HAVE 'EM WITH A BILLABLE, THEY'RE NOT IN FLOOD PLAIN OR THEY ARE ABLE TO BE RAISED UP, YOU CAN GET A MODULAR OR TRY TO WORK WITH COMMUNITY PARTNER CONTRACTOR TO GET THEM TO BUILD IT.

AND ONCE YOU HAVE THAT HOUSE, YOU TALK ABOUT RENTERS, YOU WORK WITH AREA NONPROFITS THAT HELP WITH RENT ASSISTANCE AND YOU SELL THE HOUSE TO THEM OR SELL A FINANCE TO THEM SO THAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PLACE THEIR CLIENTS IN THOSE SITUATIONS IN IN IN THOSE IN THOSE HOUSES.

THE OTHER OPTION, THE OTHER THIRD KIND OF PIECE OF IT IS IF YOU'RE NOT BUILDING INDIVIDUAL HOUSES, IF YOU HAVE CONTIGUOUS LOTS THE WAY YOU ATTRACT DEVELOPERS TO, TO YOUR POINT MR. MORGAN, IT IS VERY HARD THE PROFIT MARGIN ON BUILDING A HOUSE, UH, BUILDING AN AFFORDABLE HOUSE THAT SWIMS IN.

I MEAN THEY DON'T WANT DO, IT'S WHY THEY'RE LOOKING AT TIME HOMES.

IF YOU'RE ABLE TO GET CONTIGUOUS LOTS AND GET SITE CONTROL OF A CITY BLOCK, YOU ARE ABLE TO SET THE TABLE FOR A DEVELOPER, YOU'RE ABLE TO DEVELOP THAT ENTIRE AREA AND YOU HAVE SITE CONTROL THAT YOU TURN AROUND AND SAY I WANT A PUBLIC PRIOR PARTNERSHIP OR I'M GONNA SELL IT TO A DEVELOPER THAT'S GONNA BUILD UH, DUPLEXES OR TOWN HOMES.

AND THEY'RE ABLE TO BUILD ON A LARGER SCALE WHICH HELPS THEM WITH THEIR PROFIT MARGIN.

THAT'S JUST THE, I MEAN THE ECONOMY WE LIVE IN IS THEY'RE GONNA LOOK AT THEIR PROFIT MARGIN AND THAT'S HOW YOU ATTRACT THOSE TYPES OF DEVELOPERS TO THAT AREA.

I AGREE.

SITE CONTROL WILL ALLOW THEM TO BE ABLE TO COME IN AND BRING ALL OF THEIR MATERIALS.

THEY'VE WORKED WITHIN A CERTAIN AREA.

THEY'VE GOT FOUR PROJECTS WITHIN A CERTAIN, UH, UH, TWO BLOCK RADIUS OR ONE BLOCK RADIUS.

BUT WE STILL NEED TO DEAL IN, UH, PARTNERSHIPS ALSO.

WE ARE NOT, WE DON'T MAKE HOMEOWNERS BUT THERE IS SOMEONE WHO, WHO DOES HABITAT HAS PROGRAMS BUT THEY MAKE PEOPLE HOMEOWNERS.

AND WE NEED TO GET BACK TO MAKING PEOPLE KNOW.

ABSOLUTELY.

SO IF WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE IN THE OWNERSHIP BUSINESS, IN THE RENTAL BUSINESS, THEN LET'S PARTNER UP HABITAT WITH THE UH UH, UH, THE PEOPLE WHO OWN, WHAT IS IT? THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

WE HAVE SOLD THEM SOME PROPERTIES I BELIEVE.

OKAY.

SO THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE DO NOT HAVE TO BE LANDLORDS.

SO I'M NOT RIGHT AND I'M NOT TRYING TO BE A LANDLORD, BUT I'M NOT TRYING TO REINVENT THE WHEEL EITHER.

LET'S GET IT DONE 'CAUSE WE HAVE THE PROPERTY AND IF WE HAVE THE PROPERTY THEN LET'S JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE GET SOME AFFORDABLE HOUSING, WHETHER THEY BE MARGIN HOMES OR WHATEVER PUT ON THEM SO THAT WE CAN GET PEOPLE THAT WILL BE QUALIFIED TO PUT IN EM.

BUT THE WAY WE GET THE QUALIFIED PEOPLE IS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS.

MR. MAYOR, PERHAPS I CAN INTERRUPT.

I HAVE TO BE, WHEN YOU SAY GET THE PEOPLE, YOU WERE SPEAKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE OVER THERE, I WANT KNOW ARE WE TRYING TO UM, DO A GOOD WORK FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT'S THERE? I'M TALKING ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT QUALIFY THROUGH HABITAT THAT ARE BEING TAUGHT HOW TO BE HOMEOWNERS THAT HAVE TO TAKE THE CLASS, THEY HAVE TO FULFILL CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS AND, BUT

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WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE HOUSING IS THERE FOR THAT WHAT YOU SAID, WHAT YOU WERE SAYING EARLIER, ME, YOU, HER, WE CAN ALL SAY, OH YOU WALK DOWN STREET AND SEE SOMEBODY.

WHAT WE SAY YOU TOO.

WE KNOW WHO'S FROM GENERATIONS FAMILIES D ARE WE TRYING TO BUILD UP AND REDEVELOP AND HAVE THAT FOR DUFFY FIELD OR FOR ANYBODY IN WHEREVER THAT CAN QUALIFY FOR A HOUSE AND COME TO DUFF HOMEOWNERS, ANY HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNERS, ANY HOMEOWNER, HOMEOWNERS OWNER, LIVABLE, OCCUPIED.

IT WOULD BE NICE IF YOU COULD CONCENTRATE ON THIS IF WE COULD AND A LOT ARE INTERESTED IN BEING, WE HAVE SOME TYPE OF RESTORATION PROGRAM WE PROJECTS BECAUSE OUR MISSION STATEMENT COMPREHENSIVE, THE PEOPLE THERE, THE CITIZENS THERE, WE DO HAVE A BUDGET THAT'S WORKABLE.

WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH TO COVER ANY ONE AREA WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, HEALTH AND WELLNESS AND ANY OTHER ONES THAT OUR MISSION STATEMENT COVERS.

BUT, AND I GO BACK TO LOOKING AT THE CITY WHEN THEY WERE PROPOSING TO BUILD A HOTEL OVER THERE IN OR OTHER PROJECTS OF THAT NATURE, I SAW THEM PROPOSE A CONSULTANT.

WE DO HAVE INCREMENT MONEY THAT PEOPLE SPECIALIZE IN HOUSING IN THESE OTHER AREAS TO GET A CONSULTANT TO LEAD US DOWN, HAVE TO DO THOSE THINGS THAT WOULD HELP US.

THEY HAVE KNOWLEDGE AND SOMETIMES GRANT INFORMATION OR LEAD US SINCE WE DON'T HAVE ED AT THE TIME, BUT THEY GONNA BE LEADERS TO HELP US IN THOSE AREAS IN PURSUING THESE INITIATIVES THAT COME TO THE TABLE.

LIKE THAT MAKES SENSE.

CERTAINLY NOT IT'S AN OPTION FOR SURE.

AND THAT'S YOUR DECISION.

Y'ALL CAN DO IT IF YOU WANT TO.

WELL, I MEAN I I I MEAN IT'S JUST, I WOULD DEFINITELY SUPPORT THAT.

YOU KNOW, I MEAN I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA IF SOMEONE CAN COME IN AND ADVISE YOU AS UNTIL YOU GET UP AND RUNNING.

'CAUSE WE NEED TO BE WORKING ON MORE THAN JUSTICE HOUSING AT THE TIME OR YOU KNOW, JUST ONE PROJECT TO BE, YOU KNOW, NARROW AT THE TIME.

PEOPLE WORK IN DIFFERENT AREAS.

YOU KNOW, MR. MAYOR BEFORE, UH, COMMISSIONER DOVE HAS TO LEAVE RIGHT NOW.

THEY HAVE A QUORUM.

I KNEW YOU ALL WANT TO ASK ABOUT THE NUMBER ON THE BOARD.

SO ELL YEAH, SO, SO THERE, THERE'S BEEN SOME CONVERSATION.

YOU, YOU CURRENTLY HAVE TWO VACANCIES ON THE BOARD RIGHT NOW.

UH, THE, THE WAY THE RESOLUTION WOULD'VE INITIALLY WRITTEN WAS TO HAVE NINE COMMISSIONERS QUESTIONS COME UP.

SINCE THERE'S TWO MISSING RIGHT NOW, DO YOU WANT TO MOVE FORWARD AND US 0.2 NEW PEOPLE, TWO NEW PERSONALITIES, TWO NEW LEARNING CURVES, TWO NEW SETS OF IDEAS THAT COME IN? OR DO YOU WANT TO STICK WITH THE NUMBER YOU HAVE NOW AND CHANGE THE RESOLUTION TO TURN, TURN THAT NUMBER TO SEVEN AND YOU ROLL WITH THE SEVEN THAT YOU HAVE IN? I THINK, I THINK THAT BEFORE YOU START TALKING ABOUT NUMBERS AND ADVANCING THE BOARD, I THINK WE NEED TO TALK ABOUT WHO YOU HAVE ON THE BOARD.

AND I'M STARTING TO LOOK AT WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE IS SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE PROFESSIONALS THAT LIVE A LIFE OF THAT KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT FINANCE OR SOMETHING ABOUT REALTY OR SOMETHING ABOUT HOME OWNERSHIP OR SOMEBODY THAT COULD ADD SOMETHING TO THE TABLE AS IT RELATES TO THE BETTERMENT OF THE COMMUNITY AND ESPECIALLY IN THE HOUSE AND THE APARTMENT.

BECAUSE I THINK THAT OUR NEXT CHAIRMAN AND WE'LL GET TO THAT WHEN AS HE'S DOING THAT.

YEAH.

BUT AS WE SELECT OUR NEXT CHAIRMAN, HE'S GOING NEED, AND I SAY HE IS GONNA NEED SOME ASSISTANCE IN HAVING SOME PROFESSIONALS BECAUSE HE'S NOT GOING TO BE A REALTOR.

HE'S NOT GONNA BE A CONTRACTOR, HE'S NOT GONNA BE A BUILDER.

BUT, SO IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF KEEPING THE TWO POSITIONS.

AS

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OF RIGHT NOW.

AS OF RIGHT NOW.

AND I WILL BE LEAVING THE COMMISSION IN AUGUST MYSELF.

OKAY COMMISSIONER.

SO THERE'LL BE THREE THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE.

NO, THERE'LL BE FOUR.

FOUR.

WHAT ARE THE REST OF THE COMMISSION? RIGHT? THAT'S HOPING, I'M HOPING THERE BE MORE CHAOS TO THE SITUATION.

SO YOU, YOU SAY UNTIL AFTER AUGUST.

OKAY.

TO BE HONEST WITH YOU, BECAUSE THERE'S NO NEED IN STARTING SOMETHING NOW THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO GO BACK AND REEVALUATE AND CHANGE AND LET'S JUST GO AHEAD AND LET'S GET STARTED.

IT'S NOT WITHIN A COUPLE OF MONTHS WE NEED TO HIT THIS THING BROKE AND RIGHT NOW THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A LOT THAT'S GOING TO CHANGE AS IT RELATES TO WHAT WE HAVE NOW.

SO LET'S NOT DISRUPT IT TOO MUCH.

SO YOU'RE SAYING LEAVE IT AT SEVEN.

THAT'S JUST ME.

OKAY.

YOU SAID LEAVE IT AT SEVEN? YES.

ALRIGHT.

WE'RE GETTING SOMEWHERE NOW.

WHAT'S, LEAVE IT AT SEVEN.

I'M FINE.

YOU DECIDE BUT WHEN YOU INCREASE, COME ON.

BUT WHEN YOU INCREASE IT, BE MINDFUL IT AT LEAVE IT AT SEVEN, LEAVE IT AT SEVEN.

I SAID LEAVE IT AT SEVEN.

SAYS LEAVE IT AT SEVEN.

BUT IT HAVE TO BE INCREASED SOMETIME.

BUT WHEN IT'S INCREASED INCREASE WITH THE, NOT WITH THE QUALIFIED PEOPLE AND WITH THOSE THAT WILL BRING SOMETHING TO THE TABLE AND NOT JUST THOSE AM STAYING BECAUSE I NOTHING ABOUT AFFORD NOT THAT'S TRUE DEVELOPMENT.

SO I GONNA ASK THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, ARE WE IN AGREEMENT TO NOT CHANGE THE RESOLUTION THE WAY THAT LEAVE IT AT NINE BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA FILL THAT POSITION FOR A OF MONTHS AND GIVE TIME TO SETTLE? YES.

ARE WE IN AGREEMENT WITH THAT? YES.

COMMISSIONER, BE COGNIZANT OF THE FACT AS WE SAY LEAVE IT AT NINE NOW TWO MEETINGS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS HAVE NOT HAD A FORM BECAUSE YOU CAN'T GET FIVE, SEVEN, DROP THINGS TO SEVEN GOES TO FOUR FOUR.

BUT IF WE LEAVE IT, IF WE DON'T CHANGE THE RESOLUTION AND IT STATE THAT WAY THE FORUM STAYS THE SAME.

CORRECT.

OKAY.

SO MAYBE WE SHOULD CHANGE IT TO SEVEN SO WE CAN HAVE IT EASIER.

MAKE IT EASIER TO GET A FORM.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

I'M SEEING HEADS NOD.

CAN WE GET THE GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF FOR OUR NEXT MEETING TO BRING BACK AN UPDATED RESOLUTION FOR THE BOARD TO CHANGE THE ORDER.

COMMISSIONER FROM NINE TO SEVEN.

YES SIR.

WE'LL CHANGE THE RESOLUTION.

IT'S ALSO INCORPORATED INTO THE ORDINANCE SO WE'LL NEED TO REVISE THAT AS WELL.

OKAY.

DOES, HEY, WE GOT SOME AND A COMMISSIONER IS GETTING HIS TERM EXPIRE LIKE YOURS.

WE DON'T, IF WE DON'T RE IF WE DON'T APPOINT SOMEONE, DOES THAT PERSON STAY ON THE COMMISSION? THEIR TERM EXPIRES BUT THEY CONTINUE TO SERVE UNTIL THEIR REPLACEMENT IS APPOINTED.

OH YEAH, WE GOT THAT.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT, SO WE'VE ADDRESSED THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR COMMISSION EVERYBODY, OR EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR POSITION.

EVERYBODY'S UNDERSTANDING NOW.

UM, SYSTEM MANAGER WILLIAM AND ARE AT YOUR DISPOSAL OF YOUR DISCRETION AS, UH, THE AVENUES PROJECT SEEM TO HAVE A LOT OF TRACTION AND POSITIVITY.

SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT YOU ALL CAN WORK ON, BRINGING THAT TO FRUITION, UH, WHICH INCLUDES THE HOUSING PLAN, NUISANCE AND ABATEMENT.

UH, MR. HUGHES, CAN WE HAVE STAFF SPEND SOME TIME WITHIN COMMISSION AREA AND ADDRESS ANY? YES.

OKAY.

HOW WOULD THE CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD NEEDS TO BE CC'D IN WHAT'S GOING ON WITH EVERYTHING THROUGH PUBLIC WORK? SO I'VE READ, I'VE GOT A QUICK FIX FOR THAT.

CITY MANAGER SENDS OUT A WEEKLY REPORT BROKEN DOWN BY THE R,

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USUALLY AFTER THE, OKAY.

I THINK THAT WE REALLY NEED TO KNOW FROM OUR CHAIRMAN OF HOW WE CAN ADDRESS THE CITIZENS BECAUSE A LOT OF THEM WE HAVE PUT OURSELVES OUT THERE.

WELL, I LIVED IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA AND HAVE NOW FOR QUITE A WHILE.

AND SO A YEAR OR TWO, HUH? MORE THAN A YEAR OR TWO.

I WAS ON FOREVER AND I WAS IN DUMPY FIELD, YOU KNOW? SO I JUST NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY COME, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE CORRECT INFORMATION AND THAT WE STILL MAKE THEM COMFORTABLE BEING ABLE TO COME AND ASK US ABOUT, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR CITY AND OUR CITY OFFICIALS HAVE A GOOD RAPPORT AND HAVE A GOOD NAME.

BECAUSE FOR A WHILE THERE, THE CITY DID NOT HAVE A GOOD NAME, DID NOT HAVE A GOOD REPUTATION, AND WAS NOT UPFRONT WITH BEING OUTSTANDING WITH THEIR INFORMATION BECAUSE WE WEREN'T GETTING THE CORRECT INFORMATION.

AND AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE CORRECT INFORMATION AND IT'S GIVEN TO THE RIGHT FOLKS, THEN WE CAN GO AHEAD AND WE CAN DIS DISPERSE IT PROPERLY.

BUT IT'S GOING TO BEGIN WITH THE ALDERMAN.

WELL, IT'S GONNA BE ME WITH MY MAYOR.

WELL, AND THEN MY ALDERMAN, AND THEN MY CHAIRMAN AND MY CHAIRMAN WILL DISPERSE IT TO THE COMMISSIONERS.

YOU'RE RIGHT.

AND I, I'M NOT SHOWING, I, I WOULD, I WOULD LIKE TO ISSUE A CHALLENGE TO THE LIAISONS OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN THAT SIT AS, THEY'RE NOT EX OFFICIARY, I THINK THEY'RE LIAISONS, IS HOW IT'S TERM, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT COMMUNICATION IS TWO-WAY WHEN THERE'S THINGS TAKING PLACE WITHIN THE CITY IS HAPPENING WITHIN THATT COMMISSION.

YOU SHARE THAT WITH BUIL COMMISSION DURING THEIR MONTHLY MEETING.

AND WHEN THERE'S THINGS THAT'S HAPPENING WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, BRING THAT BACK TO THE BOARD OF, BECAUSE THE AVENUES PROJECT TONIGHT IS THE MOST PROJECT.

I MEAN, TO THAT POINT, I, I MEAN, JUST TO ECHO THE MAYOR, I THINK LIAISONS HAVE ONE WHO, I MEAN EVERY BOARD OF MEETING GIVEN AN UPDATE ON WHAT HAPPENED IN MENT, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

AND THEY, THEY ARE HONOR WHITE BRIAN AND YES, YES ON THIS, IF I CHAIR MR. MARTIN SPOKE ON THE ORGANIZATIONS OVER THERE, CORPORATION AND MS. BEST WAS TALKING ABOUT GOING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND BEING, AND MS. BRYAN HAS SAID SINCE SHE'S BEEN ON THE BOARD, UH, THERE'S BEEN COME UP EVEN ABOUT THAT, ABOUT BEING ABLE TO, EVEN BEING ABLE TO MEET OVER THERE, WHICH I HAD CALLED MAYOR ON AND BELIEVE, CALL IT TO BE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE EMPATHY AND UNDERSTANDING COMING FROM THE BOARD OVER HERE, THE DOWNTOWN AREA THE PEOPLE HAD HAD PROBLEMS WITH FELT BAD THEY COULDN'T EVEN MEET OVER THERE.

AND YOU'RE DEALING WITH A BUNCH OF OLDER PEOPLE THAT STILL CONCERNED BECAUSE THE YOUNG ONES HAVE LOST FAITH AND HOPE THAT SOME OF THE WORK OR THE STAFF THAT THEY CARE ABOUT THEM OVER THERE.

SO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE WORKING EVERY DAY, THEY'RE NOT EVEN ONE THAT COME TO THE MEETING OR ONES TRYING TO HOLD THE COALITION TOGETHER OVER THERE.

SO YOU KIND OF LIKE, INSTEAD OF PEOPLE MAKING DECISIONS FOR THEM, COME AND UNDERSTAND LIKE MISS MS. PRIDE COME TO THE MEETING AND THEY REACH OUT TO WHERE THEY, THE INTERSECTION OF THE AREAS OF NEED TO WHERE YOU GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING ABOUT WHAT'S NEEDED THERE AND, AND HOW TO REALLY, YOU KNOW, COAGULATE THIS TOGETHER TO WHAT THE NEEDS REALLY ARE.

INSTEAD OF MAKING DECISIONS SAYING THAT YOU CAN'T HELP US IN THIS WAY.

THE BLOCK CAPTAIN REALLY HAVE NEEDED HELP IN GETTING TOGETHER.

AND IF THEY SEE IT, ALL THEM COMING, MORE OF THEM WILL JOIN THE 1 0 1 PROGRAM AND THEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE AND HOW TO DO IT.

BECAUSE SOMEHOW GIVE A HOPE.

AND I GOT A GROUP COMING IN NOW TO UNDERSTAND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND GONNA TRY TO HELP WORK SOME OF THE THINGS OUT.

SO SEEING THE THERE AND, AND THEN SOME, WHATEVER THE RESOURCES THAT THEY CAN BRING TO THE TABLE, IT'S NOT ALWAYS ABOUT MONEY, BUT JUST THEIR PRESENCE AND THEN THEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THEY CAN HELP.

WE HELP SOME OF THE PEOPLE GET STRONGER OVER THERE IN THE COMMUNITY.

SO TO THAT POINT, AND I THINK COMMISSIONER MORGAN BROUGHT THIS UP, THE IDEA AT ONE POINT THERE WAS A PRETTY ROBUST COMMUNITY CLEANUP DAY

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ABSOLUTELY BROUGHT, I MEAN, IS THAT SOMETHING, SAY SOMETHING.

EXCUSE ME.

BECAUSE IN OUR, SOME OF OUR MEETINGS AS WE WERE BRINGING OUR PUBLIC WORKS, SOME OF THEM ONE TIME WE START CHANGING IDEOLOGY ON SOME OF THAT AND WE APPRECIATE FOR DOING SOME OF THE CLEAN UP AND, BUT WE EVEN CAME TO THE CONCLUSION, THAT'S WHY I SAY IT'S GONNA BE IMPORTANT THAT MS. BRYANT, MS. BEST AND THEM, AND YOU ALL TOO, UNDERSTAND WE'VE BEEN CHANGING SOME OF THE IDEOLOGY OVER THERE.

INSTEAD OF DOING TRASH PICKUP, WE AND THE MAYOR EVEN DONATED SOMEBODY TO US THAT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR TWO YEARS.

'CAUSE WE STILL BEEN TRYING TO WORK WITH THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND WE WANT TO DO, AND WE'RE GONNA BRING IT TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION TOO.

INSTEAD OF TRASH PICKUP, THE PEOPLE GOING, WE GOING WE'LL WANT TO WORK WITH THE PEOPLE WE ORGANIZATION CLEAN UP A CLEAN UP A GREEN AND CLEAN CAMPAIGN FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT PEOPLE LEARN TO DO THEIR OWN CLEANUPS THEMSELVES.

AND WE EVEN ASKED THE CHIEF ABOUT HIM CHECKING WITH THE ABOUT EVEN SAYING THAT, UH, FINES PUT UP SIGNS THAT IF YOU GET CAUGHT, ITERATE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU GOT BARE FINE.

I MEAN IT IS TIME FOR THE COMMUNITY DEVELOP THEMSELVES OR WITHIN TOO.

SO AS MR. MORGAN WAS EVEN SAYING IS THAT THERE WAS A COMPREHENSIVE MOVEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PEOPLE.

RIGHT.

SO THAT'S WHY I SAID THAT BOTH SIDES OF THE FENCE GOT TO WORK HERE.

AND, AND ONCE AGAIN, PARTNERSHIPS, EXCUSE ME, MR. STEWART PARTNERSHIPS, WHEN WE START TALKING ABOUT CLEANUP AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE, I WENT AND I MADE SURE AFTER WE HAD THE MASSIVE COMMUNITY CLEANUP WHERE WE HAD ALL THE TRUCKS, WE HAD PUBLIC WORKS, WE HAD INMATES, WE HAD THE COUNTY, THE CITY, AND WE HAD A LOT OF CLEANUP.

WHEN I WENT BACK, THERE WERE ACTUALLY PEOPLE THAT, BECAUSE IT WAS ALREADY CLEAN, IT WAS EASIER TO KEEP CLEAN BECAUSE IT WAS CLEAN.

BUT THAT WAS WHEN WE STARTED TO EXPLORE DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS, WHETHER IT BE YOUR HOME DEPOT, LOWE'S, AND THERE ARE ACTUALLY PROGRAMS THAT WILL GIVE YOU, AND THEY WILL SPONSOR CERTAIN COMMUNITY, UH, UH, CLEANUPS AND THEY WILL ACTUALLY DONATE WHETHER THEY BE FLOWERS, PLANTS, BUT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE, UH, PREREQUISITE IS, BUT THEY WERE ABOARD AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR EXCHANGE AND IT DIED, SO TO SPEAK.

BUT THERE ARE DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE COULD DEAL WITH THAT WILL NOT JUST CLEAN UP THE COMMUNITY, BUT THEY WILL HELP THE COMMUNITY TO BE ABLE TO RAISE IT UP A LEVEL AND THAT THEY WILL KEEP YOU ENGAGED AND KEEP THE HOMEOWNERS FEELING GOOD ABOUT WHAT THEY'VE DONE AND ABOUT GOOD ABOUT WHERE THEY'RE LIVING.

I, I JUST GOT TWO QUESTIONS IN THE RE ONE.

I GUESS I UNDERSTAND JUST BECAUSE THE GROUP USED TO USE OVER, OVER THERE AND THE CONVERSATION AND UNDERSTAND THAT OBVIOUSLY THE GYM HAS TO CHARGE FOR THEIR ROOMS. WELL, MAYBE WHILE OPEN, IF YOU GUYS WANNA COME OVER THERE FOR ANY COMMUNITY, UH, ACTIVITY THREE, FOUR, UH, WE DON'T CHARGE SAME THE PHOENIX GROUP, ET CETERA.

SO JUST WHO WE DOING MR. WILLIAMS CALLED ME IF YOU GUYS NEED TO COME OVER THERE, BUT YOU CAN'T GET TO THE GYM.

UH, OPEN QUESTION.

YOU NOW IT'S CLEARED US UP THERE.

IS ANY FEE CHARGED NOW BEFORE WE EXIT THE THERE, THERE IS A FEE NOW THERE ALL, IF YOU ARE A CITY SPONSOR OF INTERACTIVITY SUCH AS DO FEST OR THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN, THEN WE DO ALLOW THEM TO MEET FOR THAT.

SO ALL THOSE MEETINGS SHOULD BE SCHEDULED THROUGH THE PARKS.

RECREATION DIRECTOR, CARRY WARRANT.

I'M SAYING AN ONGOING MEETING.

I GUESS THAT THERE ARE FEES GOING IN IF, IF THEY HAVE A MEETING, ANY, ANY GROUP HAS A MEETING THERE REQUIRES OUR STAFF TO BE ON SITE, OPEN IT UP AND JUST LET ANYBODY, ANY ROOM IN THAT FACILITY WHENEVER THEY NEED TO WITH OUR STAFF THERE, THERE'S A CAUSE ASSOCIATED.

SO WE TRY TO RECOUP THE CALLS THAT SO AND SO MY TWO QUESTIONS, I JUST WANNA BE CLEAR WITH YOUR APPETITE ON SOMETHING, WHAT ARE THE BARRIERS THAT YOU SEE IN US BEING A, UH, A MORTGAGE HERE? IN SOME WORDS, IT LIKE, YOU, YOU, I, I'LL SHARE WITH YOU MY FAULT.

OKAY.

YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S GONNA BE ALL ELATED AND EXCITED TODAY THAT WE OPEN UP THIS NEW HOUSE THAT THE REBEL COMMISSION HAS

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CREATED A NONPROFIT AND YOU'RE OWNER IN THAT HOUSE.

EVERYBODY HAPPY HAVE, AND THEN WHEN THEY DEFAULT ON PAYMENT IN SIX MONTHS AND YOU HAVE TO KICK THEM OUT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE SUCH A HAPPY SITUATION THERE.

SO I THINK THERE'S ENOUGH PARTNERS IN THE COMMUNITY THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO REINVENT THE WHEEL.

YOU WORK WITH THEM.

IF YOU GUYS HAVE THE FUNDING YOU WANT BE THE BUILDER, BUILD THE HAND IT OFF TO SOMEBODY, LET THEM.

SO WHICH, WHICH PHASE TO MY SECOND QUESTION FOR YOU.

HOW, HOW DO WE AND, AND, AND BOBBY, I DON'T THINK YOU GET ENOUGH CREDIT FOR TWO THINGS.

I TOLD FOSTER JUST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO, ONE, I DON'T THINK WE GET ENOUGH CREDIT FOR USING YOUR, YOUR OPERAT FUNDS FOR EVEN PURCHASING THAT LOT THERE, BUT THAT EVEN HAPPENED.

AND TWO, MY SON LOVES FISHING CARE.

UM, HOW DO WE DUPLICATE WHAT, WHAT YOU GUYS DID DIDN'T WALK UP WITH DO AGAIN, THE BUILDER HOUSE, GEORGE BOARD, EVERY TIME I SEE HIM, HE'S READY TO DO AGAIN, ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS HIRE HIM, BUILD A HOUSE ON THOSE LOTS, HAVE A HOUSING AUTHORITY HABITAT, FIND A COMMUNITY PARTNER THAT YOU CAN SELL THE HOUSE TO AND WE SELL THAT BUILD.

AND SO HOW DID YOU GUYS MAKE THAT CONNECTION TO WORK WITH HOUSING AUTHORITY TO DO THAT? WE DID THE IDEA.

WE DID.

SO BASICALLY YOU SO CONTRACT NOW, DO THEY HAVE TO GO IN ON BID OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT CONTRACT HAVE TO HAVE SOME TYPE OF A PLAN OR CAN THEY PERSON THEY'RE LOOKING FOR TO DO A DESIGN AND BUILD, THEY CAN DO DESIGN BUILD.

WHAT WAS THE NAME OF THE WARD? IS THAT IMAC GROUP? IM, AND I GUESS JUST IS THERE A REASON WHY WE HAVEN'T WORKED WITH THEM TO TRY TO DUPLICATE WHAT THEY DID THERE? THAT WOULD BE MONEY.

IS THERE A REASON WHY WE HAVE A TRUCK TO DUPLICATE THE NEXT PROJECT THAT WE, HE WOULD BE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WE REACH OUT TO, TO, IT'S JUST A MATTER THAT PROJECT AND DOING THE LEG WORK TO GET READY TO, READY TO GO UP TO THAT POINT WHERE YOU'RE READY FOR THE BUILDING.

AND TO THAT POINT, MR. MAYOR, JUST TO BE HELPFUL, A A BETTER WAY TO PERHAPS COURT DEVELOPMENT AND TO FACILITATE THE TRANSFER A BIT EASIER FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION IS TO AGGREGATE LOTS AND PACKAGE THE LOTS FOR SALE AND THEN ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO DEVELOP THOSE LOTS CONSISTENT WITH WHATEVER PLAN THAT YOU HAVE FOR THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT.

JUST LET ME SAY THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN A MASTER CLASS THAT WAS GIVEN TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION AND A LOT OF US THAT HAVE ACCEPTED THE CHARGE TO BE ON THE COMMISSION, THE BEST THING THAT WE HAD GOING FOR US HAVE BEEN OUR ATTORNEY, OUR CITY MANAGER, AND OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER.

AND SO, AND OF COURSE THE BOARD OF BALDMAN, BUT I'M JUST SAYING THERE HAS NOT BEEN A MASTER CLASS THAT WAS TAUGHT.

SO WHERE WE HAVE BEEN AND WE'RE STILL LEARNING AS WE GO, UH, AND SO WE NEED SOME DIRECTION, BUT BEFORE THE DIRECTION, AND I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE HAVE TO HAVE AN ED AS LONG AS WE HAVE A THOROUGH CHAIRMAN OF THE BOARD WHO KNOWS WHO TO GO TO, AND IF HE HAS THE EAR OF THE BOARD AND HAS THE EAR AND THE HELP OF THE, OF FOSTER HUGS AND HIS PURVIEW OF KNOWLEDGE, THEN I, AND OF COURSE ATTORNEY, UH, MOLEY, I THINK WE'RE GONNA BE FINE.

SO MY QUESTION, SO THERE'S NOTHING PROHIBIT US FROM WORKING WITH THE SAME GROUP AGAIN, PERHAPS THE AVENUE, WHATEVER THE BID PROCESS WOULD BE IS WHAT YOU FOLLOW.

OKAY.

SO, UM, COMMISSIONER WALLACE, UM, I KNOW YOU WERE LISTED ONLINE.

UH, EVERYBODY HERE HAD SOMETHING TO SAY.

IF YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO SAY BEFORE WE ADUR? UM, WELL I JUST TO ADD, I WAS ON THE PHONE, BUT UM, JUST WANTED TO SAY GET THAT ACTUALLY AND SHOW SOME IMPACT IN THE COMMUNITY.

UM, DEFINITELY THE LAST MEETING THAT WE HAD, UH, WE CALL MARATHON ALL NAMES.

OPTIONS MEAN WE HAVE, WE, THE MAIN THING IS, UH, AS I WAS LISTENING ON, UM, THE NEXT MEETING THAT WE HAVE WHEN WE, WE, UM, SO IT'S ONE THING WE TO CLARITY, WE BOTH HAVE THE SAME THING IN PLACE, THE SAME OF WE'RE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR, YOU CAN TAKE THOSE THREE, DO OVER THERE AND USE THAT SAME PLAN, PLACE THEM

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SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE COMMUNITY JUST BY CHANGE COLOR OR YOU KNOW, DO SOME STUFF LIKE THAT.

WHEN YOU GOTTA SET A PLAN RIGHT THERE, YOU AND YOU KNOW HOW MUCH IT COST.

WELL I'M NOT SURE WHAT THEY'LL BE TODAY, BUT, UM, YOU GOTTA SET PLAN.

YOU CAN WORK WITH BY ANY OTHERING QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS.

THANK YOU.

I GOT CLEARED UP.

YEAH, THANK, THANK YOU ALL.

AND, AND WHAT I'LL SAY, I, I'VE SAID THIS AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN AN ADULT, IS ANY RELATIONSHIP, RELIABLE COMMUNICATION, WHETHER IT'S A PARENT, A CHILD, WHETHER IT'S A HUSBAND, A WIFE, A REDEVELOP COMMISSION VERSUS COURT ENVIRONMENT, WE HAVE TO COMMUNICATE.

AND ANYTIME YOU ALL HAVE QUESTIONS, I THINK YOU KNOW HOW TO REACH ALL OF US.

REACH OUT TO US.

IF YOU GET AN ANSWER YOU DON'T AGREE WITH, GET AN ANSWER.

THAT DOES SEEM RIGHT.

YOU'VE GOT SIX OTHER ONES YOU CAN TALK TO.

SO I WOULD SAY USE US THE RESOURCE, DON'T BE AFRAID TO REACH OUT AND WE WILL DO THE SAME THING.

AND TO ADD TO THAT, MAYOR, I, I AM THE RESOURCE AS WELL.

SO LIKE, LIKE I'VE SAID TO THE BOARD, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DISCUSSED IN THE MEETINGS, MY DOOR IS ALWAYS OPEN.

PLEASE COME BY AND WE CAN DISCUSS WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AND WHERE, WHAT DIRECTION YOU ALL WANT TO GO.

IN ADDITION TO ME EXPLAINING TO YOU ALL THE RESOURCES THAT ARE AVAILABLE THAT ATTEND AND NOT TOTALLY BE UNDERSTOOD.

UH, CHRISTA I JUST WANNA DO CURRENTLY DO YOU ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU HAVE ANY, THAT'S ALREADY WHERE YOU CAN HAVE, OKAY, PROCEDURALLY, RDC NEEDS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING, IS THAT CORRECT? YES SIR.

SINCE WE HAVE A QUORUM.

OH, BEFORE WE ADJOURN NUMBER IT USED TO BE C3 THREE 13.

13.

YEAH, BUT I GOT EVERYBODY KNOW HERE, SO, ALRIGHT, SO, UH, RDC SOMEBODY TO MAKE A MOTION.

SECOND.

OKAY.

UH, BOARD OF ALL, ANY MOTION TO ADJOURN? SECOND.

MOTION TO SECOND.

FURTHER DISCUSSION.

HEARING NONE.

ALL FAVOR OPPOSED YOU ALL.