* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [1. Call to Order and Welcome] [00:00:03] WELCOME TO THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION MEETING AUGUST 12TH, 2026. UH, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'D LIKE TO WISH MR. REGGIE A HAPPY BIRTHDAY. THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUTTA YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE TO, UH, UH, BE HERE AND CELEBRATE WITH US. SO, HAPPY BIRTHDAY MR. REGGIE BIRTHDAY. MR. REGGIE, TURN 21. UH, ROLL CALL. YES. COMMISSIONER DOVE. PRESENT. COMMISSIONER HARRIS. COMMISSIONER SIMMONS? PRESENT. COMMISSIONER MORGAN? HERE. COMMISSIONER STRICKLAND. CHAIR STEWART? HERE. CO-CHAIR WALLACE? HERE. CHAIR. WE HAVE A QUARTER. GREAT. [3. Consider Approving the Agenda. ] ITEM NUMBER THREE, CONSIDER APPROVING THE AGENDA. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. ARE THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS? ALL IN FAVOR HERE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES. [4. Consider Approval of Minutes] ITEM NUMBER FOUR, CONSIDER APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES. MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES AS IS. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NEXT ITEM, SHARON. JUST ONE. YES. MAKE SURE THAT WE, WE HAVE TWO MINUTES THAT WERE BEING APPROVED. SO SAY IT ONE MORE TIME. I'M SORRY. THERE WERE TWO SETS OF MINUTES THAT WERE BEING APPROVED, SO WE JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS WHAT ABSOLUTELY. EXCUSE ME FOR THAT. SO CONSIDER APPROVING THE MINUTES FOR JUNE 10TH, 2026 AS WELL AS JULY 8TH, 2026. MR. WALLACE, I UNDERSTOOD YOUR MOTION TO ENCOMPASS BOTH SETS OF MINUTES, IS THAT CORRECT? YES. MM-HMM . AND MR. SIMMONS, WAS IT YOUR SECOND TO APPROVE BOTH SETS OF MINUTES AS I IDENTIFIED ON THE AGENDA? YES. OKAY. I KNOW THAT WE'VE APPROVED THOSE. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION, SIR. ITEM NUMBER FIVE, PUBLIC COMMENT. DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT SIGNED UP FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? SCENE NONE. [6. Discussion from Development Services Regarding Manufactured Homes in RDC] ITEM NUMBER SIX, DISCUSSION FROM DEVELOPMENT SERVICES COORDINATOR REGARDING MANUFACTURER HOMES IN THE RDC MS. JESSICA RU. HOW ARE YOU? HI. GREAT. THANKS FOR HAVING ME TONIGHT. GOOD TO SEE YOU. ALRIGHT, I AM HERE JUST TO TALK A LITTLE BIT. I UNDERSTAND YOU ALL HAVE BEEN CONSIDERING VARIOUS WAYS TO ENCOURAGE SOME INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN OUR REDEVELOPMENT AREA. AND ONE THING THAT IS CURRENTLY A HINDRANCE TO THAT IS THAT WE DO NOT ALLOW MOBILE HOMES TO BE PLACED WITHIN THE RDC AND THAT IS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT IS A VERY EASY CHANGE TO MAKE AFTER WE FOLLOW A PROCESS TO CHANGE OUR ORDINANCE IF IT IS THE DESIRE OF THIS BOARD TO DO SO. AND SO I'M JUST GONNA TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT MAY BE WORTH HAVING CONVERSATIONS ABOUT OR THINKING ABOUT WHEN, UM, CONSIDERING MAKING A CHANGE OF THAT NATURE. THE FIRST THING I WANT TO JUST KIND OF BRING UP IS THAT THERE ARE A LOT OF CONFUSING TERMS ABOUT HOUSING THAT IS MANUFACTURED OFFSITE, MEANING NOT A STILL BUILT HOME. WE HAVE MODULAR HOMES, WHICH I WANT YOU TO THINK ABOUT EXACTLY LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME BECAUSE IT IS CONSTRUCTED LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. IT HAS A STAMP ON IT AND IT IS ALLOWED BY LAW ANYWHERE YOU ALLOW A SINGLE FAMILY HOME. SO WHAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IN PLAIN TERMS, WHEN WE SAY MOBILE HOME IS A MANUFACTURED HOME, THOSE TERMS CAN BE USED INTERCHANGEABLY. UM, SO A MANUFACTURED HOME IN A MOBILE HOME, THEY ARE THE SAME THING SAYING A MANUFACTURED HOME SOUNDS A LITTLE BIT FANCIER, A LITTLE BIT MORE SOPHISTICATED. THEY'RE TREATED THE SAME WAY. THERE ARE VARIOUS STYLES OF THESE AND THERE ARE VARIOUS WIND ZONES OF THEM. AND SO WHEN SOMEONE COMES IN TO GET A MOBILE HOME PERMITTED, WE'RE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT HAS THE APPROPRIATE SEAL ON IT, THAT IT'S BEEN ENGINEERED CORRECTLY FOR OUR WIND ZONE HERE, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST. AND THEN WE'RE GONNA MAKE SURE THAT IT FITS ON THE LOT AND IS ALLOWED ON A LOT. SO IF THERE WAS A DESIRE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A CHANGE LIKE THIS AT A VERY BASIC LEVEL, WHAT WE WOULD DO WOULD BE GO INTO THE REDEVELOPMENT SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE AND WE WOULD MAKE MOBILE HOME AND MANUFACTURED HOMES BE ALLOWED THERE. THAT SOUNDS VERY SIMPLE, BUT I WANNA THINK ABOUT A FEW OTHER THINGS AND JUST KIND OF PLANT THE SEEDS FOR, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IN YOUR CONVERSATION THAT THERE IS MORE THAN JUST ALLOWING A MOBILE HOME. [00:05:01] THE CITY OF NEW BERN CURRENTLY HAS IN ITS CODE THAT IF YOU ARE TO INSTALL A MOBILE HOME ANYWHERE, IT UH, IT IS ALLOWED IN THE CITY OF NEW BERN, WHICH IS VERY LIMITED, UH, LOCATIONS RIGHT NOW, THAT YOU MUST HAVE THE MOBILE, THE FRONT DOOR ORIENTATED TOWARDS THE STREET. AND THAT IS ONE AREA WHERE I THINK WITHOUT ALSO AMENDING THAT IT WOULD BE A CHALLENGE TO US IN TRYING TO PUT MANUFACTURED HOUSING IN THE REDEVELOPMENT AREA RIGHT NOW. BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR LOTS, UM, THEY'RE SMALL, WE WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE REUSE OF THEM AND SOME OF THEM ARE, ARE NOT NEATLY DRAWN OUT LOTS, LIKE WE'RE DRAWN IN THE SIXTIES AND SEVENTIES. THEY HAVE DIFFERENT LINES. AND SO ANOTHER THING TO CONSIDER WOULD BE MAYBE WE WANNA REDUCE THOSE SETBACKS A LITTLE BIT AND MAYBE WE DO OR DO NOT WANT TO KEEP THE LANGUAGE ABOUT WHERE FRONT DOOR HAS TO FACE. JUST WHEN WE THINK OF A MOBILE HOME, WE ALWAYS THINK OF IT THE LONG WAY. THE MOBILE, THE FRONT DOOR IS STRAIGHT IN THE MIDDLE, DOESN'T HAVE TO BE LIKE THAT. THEY DO MAKE MANUFACTURED HOUSING THAT COULD BE TURNED WITH THE DOORS. SO IT'S ON THE VERY NARROW END THINGS LIKE THAT. AND SO WHILE WE CAN NO LONGER REQUIRE AESTHETIC REQUIREMENTS ON SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING ANYWHERE IN NORTH CAROLINA AND HAVEN'T HAD THE ABILITY TO DO THAT IN A FEW YEARS NOW, THERE ARE OTHER THINGS THAT WE CAN REQUIRE. IF THE REASON FOR NOT INCLUDING MOBILE HOMES AS AN OPTION AT ONE POINT WAS YOU DIDN'T MAYBE LIKE THE WAY THEY LOOK, THERE ARE WAYS WHERE YOU CAN REQUIRE A FRONT PORCH GO ON ON THE UNIT. YOU CAN REQUIRE WHERE THAT FRONT DOOR IS LOCATED AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. SO IT'S NOT JUST THINKING, YES, WE WOULD LIKE TO OFFER THE PUBLIC THE ABILITY TO PUT MANUFACTURED HOUSING HERE. WE CAN TAKE IT FURTHER AND DICTATE HOW THAT IS PUT ON A LOT AND KIND OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE. SO IT WOULD NOT JUST BE MAKING ONE CHANGE. THERE'S VARIOUS CHANGES YOU COULD THINK OF AND, AND TALK ABOUT. AND OF COURSE ONCE WE PUT SOME CONSIDERATION INTO THESE THINGS, WE CAN DRAFT YOU SOMETHING. AND I HAVE FOUND IN MY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE DOING THIS, YOU CAN HAVE THE BEST IDEAS IN THE WORLD, BUT UNTIL THEY'RE IN LIKE A DRAFT FORM, YOU CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT, UH, IT, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES YOU'RE TRYING TO MAKE. AND SO ONCE YOU HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND WE GIVE SOME CONSIDERATION TO THE LOTS AND HOW THEY'RE ORIENTATED WHERE THESE MAY UH, QUALIFY TO PUT MANUFACTURED HOUSING, THEN WE WILL TAKE IT. WE, YOU ALL ARE REQUIRED AS THIS BOARD TO REQUEST THE TEXT AMENDMENT. AND BECAUSE IT IS A TEXT AMENDMENT THAT FALLS UNDER GENERAL STATUTES ONE 60 D, WE HAVE TO TAKE THIS TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD FOR A RECOMMENDATION TO MAKE THE CHANGE TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN. AND THEN THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN WILL HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING JUST LIKE ANY OTHER SECTION OF THE ORDINANCE WHERE YOU ALL CAN SUPPORT AND THE PUBLIC CAN COME, UH, SUPPORT OR SHARE THEIR CONCERNS WITH THAT. THAT WAS A LOT OF TALKING VERY QUICKLY. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER OR TRY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MIGHT HAVE. I'M ALSO HAPPY TO, UH, COME BACK WITH A DRAFT AND WALK YOU THROUGH THAT AT A FUTURE MEETING. BUT I DO KNOW THIS IS A, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY. I HAVE BEEN ACTUALLY AT A ZONING CONFERENCE THE FIRST PART OF THIS WEEK AND UH, I WOULDN'T BE SURPRISED IF AT SOME POINT IN TIME MOBILE HOMES ACTUALLY ARE ALLOWED EVERYWHERE THE DIRECTION THE STATE IS TAKING WITH REALLY ENCOURAGING MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING OPTIONS. UH, THIS GIVES YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO KIND OF BE A TRENDSETTER IF YOU DESIRE TO MAKE THIS CHANGE. SO WITH THAT, I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CHAIR. UH, HE LOOKS LIKE HE MIGHT HAVE A QUESTION OR TWO. YEAH, UH, I DO. BUT DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, GO AHEAD ROBERT. YES, ROBERT, I ACTUALLY HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. SURE. EXCUSE ME. UH, FIRST OF ALL, WHAT ARE THE CURRENT ORDINANCES AS IT RELATES TO SETBACKS FOR MANUFACTURED HOMES? ARE THEY THE SAME AS SINGLE FAMILY HOMES THAT ARE NOT MANUFACTURED IN THE CITY? YES SIR. OKAY. SECOND QUESTION I HAVE, IF WE WERE TO GO ON A FIELD TRIP, GIVE YOU THE SPECIFICATIONS OF A LOT AND YOU PHYSICALLY SEE THAT LOT, WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO PROVIDE US AT A LATER DATE WITH DIFFERENT STYLES OF MODELS OF HOMES THAT YOU WOULD THINK THAT WOULD GO WELL IN THAT PARTICULAR SPACE AND FOLLOW ALL OF THE CURRENT ORDINANCES THAT WE HAVE? UH, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT FOR YOU. YES. THANK YOU. AND, AND ONE OTHER THING TO NOTE ABOUT SETBACKS. I WOULD SAY WE UH, MADE A MODIFICATION TO OUR CODE IN THE RDC THE LAST YEAR ALLOWING ALL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THE REDUCED SETBACKS IN THE REDEVELOPMENT BOUNDARY. SO THAT PART'S ALREADY BEEN DONE. THERE STILL [00:10:01] WILL BE A CHALLENGE. AND THERE, THERE'S WAYS AROUND THIS TO DO WITH WORDS IN TEXT, UH, OF FITTING YOUR TRADITIONAL MOBILE HOMES ON SMALLER LOTS. BUT WE CAN PULL ALL THOSE OPTIONS AND ACTUALLY SHOW YOU, IN FACT, UM, I CAN WORK WITH THE HPC ADMINISTRATOR, WE CAN EVEN MAKE SOME RENDERINGS OF ACTUAL LOTS. SO, SO IT'S EASIER TO PICTURE THIS IS WHAT THIS MODEL WOULD LOOK LIKE HERE IF THAT WOULD BE USEFUL. WELL THAT WAS WHY I MENTIONED FIELD TRIPS, SO, SO THAT YOU OR YOUR STAFF WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY PHYSICALLY SEE A LOT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT A MANUFACTURED HOME ON. WE REMAIN WITHIN A RAMIFICATION OF THE ORDINANCE AND ALSO YOU SHOW US A STYLE OR A MODEL HOME THAT COULD BE MANUFACTURED HOME THAT WOULD GO WELL IN THAT SPACE. SURE. WE, WE CAN PUT THAT IN A REALLY FOCUS ON THE SIZE AND THE ORIENTATION PROBABLY MORE THAN EXACTLY WHAT SOMETHING LOOKS LIKE. UM, THAT, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE CAN CONTROL, BUT IT WOULD BE NARROWING IT DOWN TO KIND OF THE SIZE AND THE ORIENTATION. BUT WE CAN ABSOLUTELY PULL THAT FOR YOU AND DO A LITTLE PRESENTATION IF THAT'S USEFUL. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER QUESTION? YEP. I, UM, EXCUSE MY NOVICE ON THIS. I WASN'T HERE FOR THE PRESENTATION, UH, LAST MEETING, BUT, UM, MODULAR VERSUS MANUFACTURED, IS THERE ANY DIFFERENCE IN THAT? THERE IS A MODULAR HOME IS A REGULAR OLD SINGLE FAMILY HOME. THE LAW TREATS IT LIKE THAT. YOU SEE THEM OFTEN ON THE COAST BROUGHT IN, THEY'RE ON STILTS. THEY LOOK LIKE A, A REGULAR HOUSE. THEY'RE TYPICALLY, TYPICALLY ELEVATED 'CAUSE IT'S A GOOD OPTION TO GET OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN. UM, BUT A MANUFACTURED HOME IS THE TERM THAT IS INTERCHANGEABLE WITH MOBILE HOMES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. A MODULAR HOME IS ALLOWED EVERYWHERE ALREADY, INCLUDING THE RDC. OKAY. UM, AND SECOND QUESTION, WOULD IT BE FEASIBLE? UM, I MEAN THAT, THAT'S A POINT OF PERSONAL PRIVILEGE. I WANT TO AVOID A WHOLE BUNCH OF TRAILERS IN DUCK FISH. YEAH. I GREW UP LIKE THAT. UM, SO IS IT FEASIBLE FOR US TO CONSIDER MAYBE REQUIRING IF WE GO THIS ROUTE TO BRICK IN OR FORTIFY THE BASE DEPENDING, LIKE ON A LOT OF, UH, YOUR, UH, MODULAR HOMES? THAT'S WHAT IT IS. I MEAN, IT LOOKS JUST LIKE A REAL HOUSE. YES. IT'S JUST A LITTLE LIGHTER THAN A REAL HOUSE. WE COULD STILL, WE STILL HAVE THE ABILITY TO DO THAT UNDER THE STATE LAW IF YOU'D LIKE TO. OKAY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? UH, JESSICA? A FEW FROM MYSELF HERE. UH, FIRST ONE WOULD BE, DOES THE SETBACKS THERE, ARE WE SAYING THE NORMAL SETBACKS OR OBVIOUSLY ARE WE TALKING ABOUT THE OVERLAY SETBACKS? THE OVER OVERLAY SETBACKS? YEP. OKAY. AND THEN TWO, DO YOU, ARE YOU FAMILIAR, AND I OBVIOUSLY KNOW THAT IT DEPENDS ON THE LOCATION. UH, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THE ELEVATION, THE MINIMUM ELEVATION IN THAT AREA FOR THESE, UH, MODULAR HOMES? YES. SO MOST OF MANUFACTURING, EXCUSE ME, MOST OF THE FLOOD ZONE IN THAT AREA IS GONNA BE YOUR A E SIX, WHICH IS GOING TO REQUIRE ELEVATION ABOUT EIGHT FEET UP, UP FROM, FROM WHERE YOU WOULD BE STANDING ON THAT LOT EIGHT FEET. RULE OF THUMB. YEP. GOT IT. LAST MEETING, I THINK, UH, MR. JOHN FORD CAME AND DONE A, DID A PRESENTATION FOR US FROM THE, UH, PLACE OVER IN JAMES CITY MANUFACTURER HOMES. AND HE GAVE, GAVE US QUITE A BIT OF INFORMATION. UH, IT DOES SEEM LIKE SOMETHING, UH, OBVIOUSLY FROM YOUR OWN TRAINING HERE RECENTLY THAT IS SEEMS TO BE COMING BACK INTO A TREND AND IT PROBABLY WILL OBVIOUSLY BENEFIT THAT AREA. SO, UH, GLAD TO HEAR THE INFORMATION, UH, AND I APPRECIATE IT. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS? YES. YES, MR. DOVE? UM, MANY, I KNOW MANY COMMUNITIES DO NOT ALLOW THE MANUFACTURER HOMES ANYMORE. I LIVE IN PEMBROKE AND YOU CAN'T HAVE A MANUFACTURE HOME. WHAT'S THE RATIONALE THAT THE CITY HAD WHEN THEY STOPPED ALLOWING MANUFACTURED HOMES TO COME INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN THEY WERE HOMES? I KNOW WHAT THE PEOPLE ASSUME THEY MAY BE, BUT, UM, THEY'RE BUILT A LOT DIFFERENT THESE DAYS. I, SO WHY WOULD A, WHY DID THE CITY EVEN DISALLOW 'EM TO START WITH? SO THIS IS SOMETHING, AND I'LL TELL YOU WHY I'M ASKING THAT AFTER YOU ANSWER THAT. IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS A LONG TIME, UH, PRE JUST CARU. SO I CAN'T ANSWER WHY IT HAD GONE IN THERE. I KNOW IN MANY PLACES, UH, THERE WAS A CONCERN THAT A LOT OF MOBILE HOMES IN ONE PLACE CAN START LOOKING LIKE A PARK, WHICH IS INTENDED TO BE DEVALUED. MOBILE HOME PARK CAN BE A VERY SUCCESSFUL PLACE FOR AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING. UM, BUT IF YOU DON'T WANT THE CERTAIN LOOK IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, THAT'S TYPICALLY WHEN I, THAT, THAT WENT ON BOOKS, NOT JUST HERE, BUT MANY PLACES WE'RE SEEING THAT REVERSED. THERE, THERE IS A DESPERATE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND THIS IS A WONDERFUL OPTION TO DO IT. AND MANY DIFFERENT ELECTED AND APPOINTED BOARDS ARE HAVING THE SAME CONVERSATION YOU'RE HAVING RIGHT NOW, CONSIDERING, WELL, WHY WOULD WE STILL BE PROHIBITING THIS SO, WELL, I ONLY ASSUME THAT, UM, [00:15:01] THOSE IDEAS CAME FROM THE PUBLIC OR THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT THEY WERE BANNED TO GO IN. SO THAT BEING SAID, IS THIS A SITUATION WHERE YOU THINK WE SHOULD REACH OUT, MAYBE DO A SURVEY IN THE COMMUNITY TO SEE IF MANUFACTURE HOMES ARE WELCOME TO COME BACK IN THAT AREA BEFORE WE AS A BOARD JUST DECIDE FOR A WHOLE GROUP OF PEOPLE OR HOMEOWNERS IN THAT SPACE? I CERTAINLY THINK IT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THIS BOARD TO DO THAT RESEARCH AND FIND OUT IF A CHANGE LIKE THIS WOULD BE WELCOMED IN THAT COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. SO I, I THINK JUST A FOLLOW UP ONE, I HEARD YOU SAY OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD BE PUBLIC COMMENT IF HE CHANGED AND, AND MADE AN, UH, AMENDMENT TO THE REQUIREMENTS. YES, SIR. TWO, I THINK THAT LAST MEETING, MR. JOHNO, THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE A QUORUM, HE KIND OF GAVE US SOME INFORMATION. UH, MANUFACTURERS, I GREW UP IN THE TRAILER PARK IN FOX CHASE VILLAGE AS WELL. THE MANUFACTURER HOMES NOW ARE TOTALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THEY LOOK BACK THEN. HE GAVE US SEVERAL VISUALS OF WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE. THEY LOOK MORE LIKE A, JUST A STANDARD SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UH, THERE WERE MANY DIFFERENT VARIABLES THAT HE GAVE US IN, IN FACT, I THINK ME AND TABARI HAD TALKED ABOUT IT. WE NEVER GOT TO IT. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO GO TAKE A, A FIELD TRIP, A A FIELD TRIP OUT THERE. AND SO HE'S WELCOMED US TO COME OUT THERE. HE'S LEFT HIS INFORMATION. I CAN PASS OVER THE INFORMATION TO YOU, UH, VICTOR AS WELL OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS THE INFORMATION IN REGARDS TO THAT. BUT HE GAVE A PRETTY THOROUGH, UM, UM, PRESENTATION IN REGARDS TO WHAT THOSE THINGS LOOK LIKE MOVING FORWARD. SO DO YOU HAVE SOMETHING, ROBBIE? JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. YEP. IF I MAY, HOW ARE THESE HOMES, UH, TRANSPORTED? ARE THEY BROUGHT IN ON AN AXLE? MM-HMM . OKAY. AND THEY'RE SET IN PLACE FROM THAT AXLE? THAT'S RIGHT. THEY HAVE TO, THEY THEY ARE ANCHORED DOWN PER THE WIND ZONE, BUT THAT AXLE HAS BEEN REMOVED ONCE THEY'RE SET IN PLACE. IS THAT CORRECT? I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY OF NEWBURN HAS THAT REQUIREMENT OR NOT. I CAN'T, I I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON THAT ONE. IS IT A REQUIREMENT THAT THEY SET ON A SLAB? NO. NO. NO. OKAY. YEAH. AND AGAIN, A LOT OF THE, THESE QUESTIONS HERE, HE LEFT A PACKET I, I DON'T MIND SHARING. UM, BUT MR. FORD ANSWERED A LOT OF THOSE QUESTIONS FOR HIS LAST MEETING. AND SO, UH, WE CAN KIND OF FOLLOW UP WITH THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THAT. JESSICA, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FOR US? I DON'T, UH, I'M ON STANDBY TO ASSIST ANYWAY. I CAN. THANK YOU. I I GUESS THE LAST THING IS, IS BOARD, CAN WE, UH, GIVE SOME DIRECTIONS JUST TO KIND OF HAVE THOSE RULES AND REGULATIONS AND WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE TO, UH, TO JESSICA TO BRING BACK TO US. UM, JAMIE, YOU CERTAINLY CAN. UM, BASED ON YOUR KIND OF PRELIMINARY CONVERSATIONS IN PREVIOUS MEETINGS, I'VE STARTED TO PUT SOME OF THOSE PIECES TOGETHER AND MS. RU ACTUALLY HERE, UH, 'CAUSE I SHARED SOME OF THOSE KIND OF PRELIMINARY THOUGHTS WITH HER AND SHE JUST WANTED TO HELP EDUCATE YOU ALL BEFORE WE BRING A DRAFT SO THAT YOU CAN BE THOUGHTFUL IN THIS CONSIDERATION. I THINK BY THE NEXT MEETING WE CAN CERTAINLY, UM, HAVE, HAVE A KIND OF PRELIMINARY DRAFT FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. AND THEN AFTER THAT, IF YOU ALL WANT TO BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROPOSED CHANGE WITH THE COMMUNITY, WE CAN, UM, GET CREATIVE WITH SCHEDULING AND CALENDARING SO THAT YOU ALL CAN RECEIVE THOSE COMMENTS. IS THERE ANY DIRECTION THAT NEEDS TO BE GIVEN OR IS THE DIRECTION ALREADY BEEN GIVEN YOU GIVE US DIRECTION TO BRING A DRAFT, UM, MANUFACTURED HOME ORDINANCE AT THE SEPTEMBER MEETING? DOES THAT NEED TO BE A, A, UH, A, UH, A VOTED ITEM SIR? OR IS THAT SIR SOMETHING JUST GIVEN DIRECTION, SIR. OKAY. WE CAN JUST GIVE DIRECTION. WELL, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE DIRECTION. IF THE BOARD DOESN'T HAVE ANY OPPOSED IN REGARDS TO THAT TO BE ABLE TO GIVE DIRECTION TO YOU AND, AND SHAU TO GIVE US BACK A DRAFT, UH, AMENDMENT INTO REGARDS TO MANUFACTURE HOMES. WE'LL DO IT. THANK YOU. SOUNDS GOOD. I WILL SEE YOU ALL NEXT MONTH. THANK, APPRECIATE IT. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES SIR. ITEM [7. Discussion Regarding Property Request by New Bern Housing Authority] NUMBER SEVEN, DISCUSSION REGARDING PROPERTY REQUESTS BY NEW BERN HOUSING AUTHORITY. MR. REGGIE BARNUM? YES. HOW ARE YOU DOING, SIR? ALRIGHT, HOW ARE YOU? ALL? PRETTY GOOD, THANK YOU. GOOD, GOOD. THANK Y'ALL SO MUCH FOR ALLOWING ME TO COME THIS EVENING AND, AND, UH, PRESENT. I ALSO HAVE MY BOARD CHAIR, MS. JANELLE REDDICK HERE WITH ME. UH, SO IF THERE ARE ANY QUESTIONS AFTER MY PRESENTATION, UH, FEEL FREE TO DO THAT. I HAVE SENT TO YOU ALL, UH, OUR LAYOUT, UH, OF OUR DESIRES FOR, UH, LOT 58 AND 59 ON FIRST AVENUE. YES. REGGIE, CAN YOU SHOW ME, WHICH, WHICH, UH, WHICH SET OF PHOTOS WOULD YOU LIKE THE, THE SECOND SET, THE, THE ONES THAT HAVE SENT, UH, THIS MORNING? ALRIGHT, LET'S SEE. [00:20:06] YEAH, MULTIPLE TIMES. OKAY. SO WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING AND WHAT YOU ALL SEE IN FRONT OF YOU, UH, IS, UH, OUR GOAL IS TO CONSTRUCT, UH, WITH OUR TRANSFORMATION OF TRENT COURT, UH, ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS WE HAVE IS TO PROVIDE HOUSING, UH, FOR FAMILIES AND TO TRY TO RIGHT SIZE, UH, THE FAMILIES THAT WE HAVE LIVING IN TRENT COURT. AND SO WHAT THAT BASICALLY MEANS IS IF WE IDENTIFY A FAMILY THAT'S CURRENTLY LIVING IN A TWO BEDROOM OR THREE BEDROOM, AND AS WE BUILD NEW UNITS FOR THEM, WE ARE GOING TO RIGHT SIZE THE FAMILY NEEDS. AND SO WE HAVE SEVERAL FAMILIES THAT RESIDE THERE THAT NEED FOUR BEDROOM, UH, UNITS, UH, WITH THE DESIGNS THAT WE HAVE FOR REPLACEMENT. AND ON THE TRENT COURT SITE AS WELL AS THE DAY'S SITE. AND OUR PLANS FOR FR DENNIS, UH, WE, WE, WE DID NOT DESIGN, UH, ANY FOUR BEDROOM UNITS IN THOSE. AND SO OUR GOAL IS, IS TO PUT FOUR BEDROOM UNITS ON A STANDALONE LOT. AND WE HAVE A NEED FOR FOUR FAMILIES FOR FOUR BEDROOM UNITS. AND SO WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING, UH, IF YOU ALL ARE, ARE WILLING, UH, IS TO, UH, HELP US BE ABLE TO TAKE, UH, PURCHASE WHATEVER THE AGREEMENT COMES TO BE. BUT WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH OUR ARCHITECT IS LAID OUT CURRENTLY, UH, FOUR, FOUR BEDROOM UNITS. THESE ALL HAVE, UH, FRONT DOORS, UH, TO EACH OF THE UNITS. AND THE NEXT PICTURES THAT YOU'LL SEE BE ABLE TO SEE, SHOW YOU THAT. WE ALSO BUILT A LITTLE SMALL PLAYGROUND THAT YOU SEE IN THE YELLOW AREA. THAT'S A SMALL PLAYGROUND AREA THAT WE BUILT FOR THOSE UNITS, UH, THERE A PARKING LOT. AND THEN WE'VE DESIGNED TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES AT THE END OF THAT LOT AS WELL. SO THE GOAL IS CURRENTLY TO BUILD SIX, UH, TOTAL OF SIX UNITS. FOUR OF THOSE WOULD BE TOWN HOME U UNITS THAT ARE, ARE ATTACHED, BUT THERE ARE FOUR BEDROOM, UH, TWO AND A HALF BATH UNITS. AND THEN OUR GOAL IS THEN TO BUILD, UH, TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. UH, TOWARDS THE END OF THAT, IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT PAGE. SO THAT GIVES YOU, UH, UH, A PICTURE OF THE DRAWINGS OF WHAT OUR ARCHITECT HAS STARTED WITH. UH, SO THE END UNIT THAT WILL BE AT THE CORNER OF FIRST AVENUE AND M YOU SEE THAT, THAT FRONT AREA AND THE PORCH IS RECESSED. UH, WHILE THE UNITS, UH, THE REMAINING THREE UNITS THAT WOULD BE FACING, UH, FIRST AVENUE ARE WALK-UP UNITS. AGAIN, THESE ARE ALL FOUR BEDROOM, FOUR BEDROOM UNITS. UH, NEXT, NEXT PICTURE THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU A, A REAR AND SIDE VIEW OF THE PROPOSED UNITS. UH, SO WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE END UNIT, UH, CLOSEST TO THE, UM, UH, PLAYGROUND AREA WOULD BE A HANDICAP ACCESSIBLE, UH, UNIT AS WELL. AND SO WE, WE'VE ACCOMMODATED FOR THAT AS WELL. UH, NEXT, NEXT UNIT THAT IS OUR DESIGN. OUR ARCHITECTS, UH, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE'VE DONE THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, WE DID CHARETTES IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'VE WORKED WITH ALL OF THE COMMUNITY PARTNERS. WE'VE IDENTIFIED, UH, HOUSES THAT EXIST IN THE AREA. THERE'S SOME HOUSES THAT EXIST IN DUFFY FIELD CALLED THE SISTERS, UH, DESIGN. SO OUR ARCHITECTS HAVE TAKEN THAT DESIGN. WE'RE TRYING TO REMAIN WITHIN THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THE COMMUNITY FROM A HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. AND SO WHAT WE'VE DONE IS DESIGN A UNIT THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT ALREADY EXISTS, UH, THERE IN THE COMMUNITY. SO WE ARE EXPANDING THE DESIGN OF, OF WHAT WE'VE ALREADY DONE, UH, NEXT, NEXT PICTURE. AND SO AGAIN, THAT GIVES YOU, UH, ANOTHER PICTURE OF, UH, OF WHAT WE PLAN WITH THE DETACHED HOUSES, UH, FROM THAT STANDPOINT. NEXT PICTURE. AND THAT JUST KIND OF GIVES YOU SOME OF THE ARCHITECTURAL FEATURES OF THE HOUSE, THE FRONT DOORS, THE UH, UH, THE WINDOWS, THOSE THINGS. SO AGAIN, WE'RE TRYING TO KEEP WITH THE, UH, THE, THE, UH, COMPOSITION THAT ALREADY EXIST THERE IN THE COMMUNITY AND NOT DIFFERENTIATE ANYTHING THAT WE'RE TRYING TO BUILD NEW FROM WHAT ALREADY EXISTS. SO THAT WAY FROM, AGAIN, THE CONTINUITY OF THE COMMUNITY AND THE CONSISTENCY. AND ONE POINT WE WANT TO MAKE IS WE HAD A CONVERSATION A FEW WEEKS AGO WITH, UH, WITH MARVIN, WITH, UH, KURT, UH, TREY, UH, FERGUSON, UH, ALDERMAN, UH, ALDERMAN, UH, WHITE, UH, AS WELL AS, UM, UM, UH, HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. AND SO WE, WE HAD A CONVERSATION WITH THEM TO BRING ALL OF THE DIFFERENT AGENCIES THAT'S FOCUSED ON HOUSING, UH, [00:25:01] TOGETHER AND HAVE SOME CONVERSATION AROUND WHAT THE POTENTIALS ARE. SO EVEN WHAT JESSICA TALKED ABOUT WHEN WE DESIGN, UH, THESE HOUSES, THESE HOUSES CAN BE GIVEN TO A MODULAR, UH, DESIGNER AND THEY CAN BE ABLE TO, TO, TO BUILD THAT DESIGN HOUSE OFFSITE. SO IF THAT IS, IS A DESIRE THAT YOU ALL HAVE LONG TERM, WE'VE ALREADY LAID OUT A DESIGN THAT CAN BE GIVEN TO A MODULAR, UH, DEVELOPER AND THEY CAN BUILD THAT UNIT OFFSITE. SO THIS IS WHETHER WE TAKE ON THOSE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS, OR YOU ALL MAKE A DECISION IN THE FUTURE THAT YOU WANT TO WORK WITH HABITAT OR YOU ALL YOURSELF, AS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WANTS TO BUILD THOSE. OUR GOAL IS TO KIND OF HELP PROVIDE YOU INITIALLY WITH THE LAYOUT AND THE DESIGN THAT WOULD BE CONSISTENT, UH, WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, NEXT PICTURE. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU, UH, BEGIN TO GIVE YOU SOME AERIAL VIEW IF YOU WERE LOOKING FROM COMING DOWN FIRST AT, AT THE CORNER FIRST AND AM. SO THAT KIND OF GIVES YOU, UH, THAT SIDE VIEW OF THAT FIRST UNIT, AS I TALKED ABOUT WITH THE RECESSED PORCHES, UH, STILL KEEPING WITH THE, UH, UH, CHARACTER OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, NEXT PICTURE. AND SO, AGAIN, AS I SAID, ONE OF THE GOALS WITH FOUR BEDROOM UNITS IS A LOT OF KIDS. SO WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ENCAPSULATE AND GIVE THESE YOUNG FAMILIES OF, ESPECIALLY LARGE FAMILIES, SOME PLAYGROUND, UH, RIGHT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT THESE KIDS, SO JUST LIKE IF WE WERE GROWING UP IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, YOU KNOW, TRADITIONALLY YOU GO TO THE PARK OR HAVE A LARGER YARD OR SOMETHING TO THAT DEGREE. IN OUR CASE, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE BRING THE PLAYGROUND TO THE FAMILIES SO THAT WAY THAT THESE FOUR BEDROOM, FOUR, FOUR BEDROOM FAMILIES, UH, DON'T HAVE TO GO OUTSIDE THE COMMUNITY EVEN THOUGH STANDING WHITE IS AROUND THE CORNER. IT STILL GIVES SMALLER, IF IT'S SMALLER KIDS, GIVES THEM SOMETHING RIGHT THERE NEXT TO THEIR HOME TO BE ABLE TO UTILIZE. SO WE'VE ALREADY DESIGNED THAT INTO THIS NEXT, NEXT PICTURE. SO THAT AGAIN, GIVES YOU THAT PICTURE GOING DOWN, UM, GOING DOWN FIRST AVENUE, UH, AND THAT, THAT WOULD BE THE DESIGN OF THE VICTORIAN TILE DETACHED HOMES THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. AND AGAIN, IF THAT'S THE AREA VIEW. SO EVEN WITH THOSE SINGLE FAMILY, IF Y'ALL CHOSE WITH THE, WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT WITH HABITAT, IF THOSE SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES WERE, UH, FOR SALE UNITS THAT YOU ALL DESIRED AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, AGAIN, WE JUST DESIGNED IT. WE'RE NOT, WE ARE HAPPY TO BE THE DEVELOPER OF IT ACROSS THE BOARD, BUT IF YOU ALL DECIDE, HEY REGGIE, WE'RE WILLING TO WORK WITH YOU GUYS, BUT Y'ALL FOCUS ON THE FOUR FOUR BEDROOM TOWN HOMES, AND THEN WE'LL WORK WITH HABITAT FOR OURSELVES TO BUILD OUT THOSE SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED UNITS. BUT WE'RE JUST TRYING TO GIVE YOU RIGHT NOW A DESIGN THAT WE'VE AUTHORIZED OUR ARCHITECTS TO DO. SO AGAIN, WE, WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A WIN-WIN FOR EVERYBODY AND WORK TOGETHER AS A PARTNERSHIP NEXT PICTURE. SO AGAIN, THAT'S AN AREA VIEW THAT SHOWS, UH, THE, THE UNITS AS YOU CAN SEE, UH, THE UNIT THAT HAS THE ADDITIONAL, UH, UH, UH, UNIT THAT'S BUILT TOWARDS THE BACK, THAT'S THE HANDICAP, UH, ACCESSIBLE UNIT. AND THEN THAT'LL BE THE PLAYGROUND WITH THE PARKING, AND THAT WOULD BE ON SITE PARKING. SO AGAIN, IT TAKES THE PARKING OFF THE STREET. 'CAUSE FIRST AVENUE IS STILL A VERY NARROW STREET. SO WE'VE ACCOMMODATED FOR THE PARKING, IF WE ARE ABLE TO WORK WITH YOU ALL RIGHT NOW, LOT 58 AND 59, YOU ALL HAVE OFF THE BOOKS, SO IT'S NOT ONE OF THE ONES THAT'S LISTED AS AVAILABLE. SO THIS REQUEST WOULD COME BACK TO YOU ALL TO PUT LOT 58 AND 59 BACK ON AS A DEVELOPABLE. UH, LOT FOR US TO PARTNER WITH YOU ALL ON. Y'ALL HAD A, UH, PLAN FOR, UH, AVENUES PROJECT. SO THOSE LOTS WERE NOT AVAILABLE, BUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING FOR IS THOSE LOTS COME BACK AVAILABLE THAT WE CAN BE ABLE TO, UH, TAKE ADVANTAGE AND BUILD, UH, THESE UNITS NEXT, UH, PICTURE. SO AGAIN, THAT'S JUST COMING FROM A DIFFERENT AREA VIEW FOR YOU. UH, LOOKING AT IT FROM AM STREET NEXT PICTURE, I THINK THAT MAY BE THE END. THAT'S THE LAST ONE. OKAY. SO THAT WAS THE LAST ONE. THAT WAS SOME OF THE EARLY LAYOUTS THAT WE HAD, BUT WE'VE GONE TO THE NEXT LEVEL, UH, OF BEING ABLE TO DO, UH, TO, TO LAY OUT THESE UNITS BECAUSE IF WE CAN WORK WITH YOU ALL, UM, THESE ARE THE ACTUAL, UH, FLOOR PLANS. SO OUR ARCHITECTS HAVE NOW, THEY GAVE ME THAT LATE THIS AFTERNOON. SO THEY'VE TAKEN THOSE AND, AND BE, UH, AND HAVE ABLE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE THE FIRST FLOOR AND SECOND FLOOR DETAILED FLOOR PLAINS OF THESE FOUR BEDROOM UNITS. PLEASE THAT YOUR LEISURE, UH, TAKE A LOOK AT THOSE AND AGAIN, I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK IN, IN, IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT'S ULTIMATELY OUR REQUEST IS TO PARTNER WITH THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. AS YOU ALL KNOW, [00:30:01] WE PURCHASED, UH, UH, THE, THE THREE HOUSES THAT WERE DEVELOPED SOME YEARS BACK, UH, FROM YOU GUYS THAT, UH, IS THERE ON WALT BELLAMY. AND, UH, AND WE MOVED SOME FAMILIES THAT WERE DISPLACED, UH, WHEN HURRICANE FLORENCE HAPPENED BEFORE. AND SO OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD THESE UNITS DOWN FIRST, UH, TO AGAIN, TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE SOME REPLACEMENT HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE FOR LARGER FAMILIES, UH, CONSISTENT OF FOUR BEDROOM UNITS. THANK YOU. REGGIE. DOES THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? MS. HARRIS? UM, LOOKING OVER THE INFORMATION AND SEEING, YOU KNOW, YOU STATED THAT WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE NOT ON, UM, AVAILABLE RIGHT NOW. UM, I HEAR A FEW DIFFERENT OPTIONS IN WHAT YOU WERE SAYING, BUT ULTIMATELY, IN A PERFECT WORLD, WHAT WOULD YOU, UM, ULTIMATELY WANT FOR US IN PARTNERSHIP? FOR ME, COME IN AND LOOKING, IT'S BETTER IF IT'S PURCHASED AND YOU HANDLE EVERYTHING ON YOUR SIDE AS LONG AS IT'S TO THE STIPULATIONS OF WHATEVER WE AGREED ON, BECAUSE THAT HELPS US GET THAT PUT UP AND IT'S LESS MONEY THAT WE HAVE TO PUT INTO GETTING THESE BUILT. BUT I ALSO HEAR THAT IF WE DO HAVE LAND OURSELVES THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO BE THE DEVELOPER, WE CAN UTILIZE THESE SAME SCHEMATICS TO BE ABLE TO BE BUILT WITH ANOTHER DEVELOPER. BUT ULTIMATELY IS IT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO ACQUIRE THE PROPERTY AND THEN BUILD YEAH, SO OUR GOAL IS, IS NATURALLY TO ACQUIRE LOTS 58 AND 59 FROM YOU ALL MM-HMM . UH, LAY THIS DESIGN THAT WE PRESENT IN OUT, UH, AND THEN ULTIMATELY WE'RE GONNA CARVE OUT, UH, THOSE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS MM-HMM . SO ULTIMATELY OUR GOAL IS TO BUY IT. AND THEN, UH, AS WE BUILD THE FOUR FOUR BEDROOM TOWN HOME UNITS, UH, THE TWO SINGLE FAMILY, UH, DETACHED UNITS WERE, WOULD'VE BEEN THE LAST UNITS WE WOULD BUILD ANYWAY. MM-HMM . SO IF YOU ALL CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, BRIDGET, EVEN THOUGH YOU ALL HAVE PURCHASED THAT, YOU KNOW, THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION WANTS TO COME BACK AND WORK WITH YOU TO DEVELOP THOSE SINGLE FAMILY LOTS. WE'RE, WE'RE COMPLETELY OPEN TO THAT. OKAY. BUT, BUT WE, WE DO WANT TO TAKE THE LEAD AS IT RELATES TO BUILDING THOSE FOUR, FOUR BEDROOM MM-HMM . UH, TOWN HOMES. UH, AGAIN, OUR GOAL IS TO ALSO BUILD THOSE TWO SINGLE FAMILY, BUT IF YOU ALL, IF HABITAT THROUGH THAT PARTNERSHIP, YOU KNOW, WANTS TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT, THEN EVEN THOUGH WE BOUGHT THE LOTS, WE BRING THOSE LOTS BACK TO THE TABLE IN A PART SHIP FOR THOSE DETACHED SINGLE FAMILY UNITS. BUT WE ARE GOING, GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE AS PART OF OUR REPLACEMENT HOUSING TO BUILD THOSE FOUR, FOUR BEDROOM TOWN HOMES. RIGHT. TO ME, I PERSONALLY, UM, I, I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST IDEAS TO BE ABLE FOR YOU TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, UM, AUTONOMY OVER THE PROJECT AND, AND EVERYTHING BECAUSE THAT ALLOWS US TO BRING THIS MONEY IN AND THEN IF THERE'S PROPERTIES THROUGHOUT THE CITY, EVEN WITH CRAVEN COUNTY OR SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE TO HAVE A BIGGER PLOT TO, YOU KNOW, MARKET TO HAVE MORE HOUSING COMING IN. SURE. THAT WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, I WOULD THINK THAT WOULD BE, BE BETTER FOR US AND, AND FOR US ALSO AS A PARTNER WITH YOU GUYS IN THE CITY, WE WANT TO HELP SERVE AS THAT INITIAL CATALYST MM-HMM . TO BRING REDEVELOPMENT TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO BY DEVELOPING THESE UNITS, WE'RE HOPING THAT THAT HELPS TO SPUR PRIVATE INVESTMENT FROM OTHER INDIVIDUALS TO SAY, HEY, THESE ARE SOME VERY NICE UNITS. UM, THEY'RE BUILT UP, UH, SO WE'RE NOT BRINGING THEM AT GROUND LEVEL MM-HMM . WE'RE BUILDING THEM UP ON, ON A BUILT UP SLAB. SO FROM AN APPEAL STANDPOINT, THESE ARE VERY ATTRACTIVE UNITS THAT WE'RE, WE'RE PLANNING FOR. AND SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS PROJECT ALSO HELPS SERVE AS A CATALYST FOR OTHER INVESTMENT. PERFECT. AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAVE IS, UH, WHAT'S THE COST? WHAT'S GONNA BE THE AVERAGE SALE PRICE ON ON? SO WE HADN'T GOT TO THAT POINT. THE, THE, UH, TOWN HOMES ARE ARE RENTAL MM-HMM . SO THESE WOULD BE RENTED UNITS. OKAY. UH, SO, UH, SO WHAT WE WOULD BE DOING IS TAKING THE, UH, ASSISTANCE THAT ARE PROVIDED TO THE FAMILIES THAT EXIST IN PUBLIC HOUSING MM-HMM . AND TRANSFERRING THOSE TO A PROJECT BASED VOUCHER. OKAY. AND WHAT THAT MEANS WHEN WE SAY PROJECT BASED VOUCHER, THE ASSISTANCE IS GU IS TIED TO THE UNIT MM-HMM . SO AS A FAMILY MOVES IN AND OUT, THAT THAT HOUSING STILL PROVIDES AFFORDABILITY, UH, FOR FAMILIES AT 30% OF A MI BELOW. RIGHT. SO IT STILL KEEPS THAT UNIT AFFORDABLE REGARDLESS OF WHO LIVES IN THERE. PERFECT. SO WE'LL PROVIDE THAT TO THEM. NOW, THE TWO SINGLE FAMILY, THE WHOLE INTENT THERE IS TO CREATE FOUR SALE UNITS THERE. RIGHT. SO THAT WAY IT CREATES SOME HOME OWNERSHIP, BUT WE ARE NOT AT A POINT TO DETERMINE WHAT A SALES PRICE POTENTIALLY COULD BE. GOT YOU. ABSOLUTELY. I APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. MARIO? I DO AGREE WITH COMMISSIONER HARRIS AND KNOWING THE HISTORY OF FIRST AVENUE AND SEEING THE 50 YEAR DETERIORATION AND THE DI AND THE DEMOLITION THAT HAS GONE ON ON THAT PARTICULAR STREET, I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND [00:35:01] I DO BELIEVE IN, IN PARTNERSHIPS, AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT JUMPSTART TO FIRST AVENUE. IT'S NOT GONNA GET ANY BETTER UNTIL WE START TO EMBRACE THESE KIND OF PROJECTS AND THESE KINDS OF PLANS TO BE ABLE TO NOT JUST DO SOMETHING TO WHERE WE ARE ONLY ACCOMMODATING A FEW, BUT NOW WE'RE STARTING TO ACCOMMODATE THE COMMUNITY, ACCOMMODATE THOSE THAT ARE IN NEED. AND I'M JUST WANT TO JUST, UH, SAY THAT I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PROJECT AND I DEFINITELY, UH, STAND STANDARD SUPPORT OF IT. THANK YOU. MR. UM, I THINK YOU KIND OF WENT DOWN THIS PATH JUST A LITTLE BIT WITH ONE OF YOUR LAST COMMENTS, BUT JUST TO CONFIRM, THE, THE RENDERINGS THAT YOU SHARED, THOSE ARE IMPACTED FOR THE REQUIRED FLOOD ELEVATIONS? IT, IT WOULD BE, YES. SO EVERYTHING WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH, UH, ROBERT, UH, WITH, UH, JESSICA, UH, WITH KENDRICK. SO WE'VE ALREADY WORKED WITH THEM AND GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS. SO LIKE Y'ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT SETBACKS AND ALL OF THE ZONING REQUIREMENTS, WE HAD LOOKED AT ANOTHER LOT. THAT LOT WASN'T CONDUCIVE. AND SO THAT'S WHY WE MOVED TO, TO THIS LOT. AND SO WE, WE'VE WORKED WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE EVERYTHING THAT WE ARE PROPOSING HAS ALREADY PASSED MUSTER WITH THEM. OKAY. AND YOUR, UM, IN YOUR CHARETTES THAT YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU GUYS DID OUT PROVIDE IN THE COMMUNITY, DID YOU GET FEEDBACK ON KIND OF, I GUESS CO-MINGLING SINGLE FAMILY AND MULTIFAMILY AND TOGETHER? YEAH. UM, JUST THINKING OF THAT, THAT STREET IN PARTICULAR IS MOSTLY INDIVIDUAL HOUSES. I KNOW THERE'S A, A MULTI-FAMILY KIND OF OUT THE BACK OF THIS LOT AROUND THE NEXT STREET OVER. BUT JUST DID YOU GET FEEDBACK FROM HOW THAT WOULD LAND IN THE COMMUNITY? YEAH, AND SO THAT'S WHY IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE FOR US, UH, BECAUSE OF SO MANY, SO FOR US, AS I SAID, THIS IS THE JUMPSTART, WHAT IS TO COME. AND SO BY CREATING THOSE FOUR UNITS AS TOWNHOME DESIGNS, IT'S STILL, IT'S CONSISTENT IN THAT SINGLE FAMILY TYPE DESIGN STANDPOINT OPPOSED TO A GARDEN STYLE APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT YOU SEE IN OTHER PLACES. AND SO FOR US IT'S TO BE ABLE TO TAKE THESE SMALLER INFIELD LOTS AND HELP TO BEGIN TO CREATE SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S OUR GOAL IS TO BE ABLE TO HELP CREATE SINGLE FAMILY UNITS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY. THIS IS JUST A JUMPSTART AND OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT I'VE WORKED IN, UH, YOU KNOW, WE KNOW THAT YOU GOTTA BE IMPACTFUL. SO ONE HOUSE, WHILE IT'S NICE, IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE THE IMPACT THAT THESE SIX UNITS, UH, WILL MAKE ON THAT FIRST AVENUE TO HELP SERVICE THAT IMPETUS FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO GET INVOLVED. SO THAT'S WHAT CAME OUT OF THOSE CHARETTES IS NOT JUST PIECEMEALING IT, BUT BEING ABLE TO TAKE BLOCK BY BLOCK OR STREET BY STREET AND REALLY BEGIN TO DO SOME REDEVELOPMENT. THEN WE CAN GO ON TO OTHER STREETS. AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE TRYING TO START WITH FIRST AVENUE. THANK YOU, SIR. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UM, NOT STATEMENT? YES SIR. I MEAN, WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MOVING PROPERTIES AND GETTING DEVELOPMENT DONE. I SEE B SAYS ON MY SCREEN, B SAYS, LET'S CONSIDER ACCEPTING A CELL. DO WE NEED TO DISCUSS INCLUDING THOSE OTHER LOTS OR DOES ANYBODY OPPOSE TO INCLUDE THOSE OTHER TWO LOTS AND LET'S LET THIS, WELL, WE CAN'T DISCUSS THE CELL BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ACTUALLY ON THE LIST YET. I THINK THIS IS MORE OF A PRESENTATION AND THEN WE CAN GIVE DIRECTION TO PUT THOSE LOTS ON THE SELLABLE LIST. UH, WOULD KIND OF BE THE, THE STRATEGIC METHOD, BUT THEY'RE NOT, WE COULDN'T SELL 'EM TO 'EM NOW 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON THE LIST. UM, REGGIE, BUT THE ONE THEY WARRANT, CORRECT? THEY DO, THEY DO. THEY WOULD LIKE THEM, WHICH IS WHY HE'S PRESENTING. YES, SIR. CAN I MOVE? WELL I HAVE A COUPLE THINGS I'D LIKE TO, TO SAY. REGGIE, I GUESS FIRST AND FOREMOST APPRECIATE YOU COMING IN AND I, I'M GLAD THIS HAS COME TO SOME FRUITION. I KNOW THIS CONVERSATION STARTED BACK WHEN MR. PARHAM WAS THE CHAIR. UH, AND JUST TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, HEY, HOW CAN WE, UH, THE LOGO HANGING FRUIT, IN MY OPINION ON BEING ON THIS BOARD FOR THE LAST, I GUESS SIX MONTHS IS PARTNERSHIP WITH HOUSING AUTHORITY, PARTNERSHIP WITH HABITAT. AND SO TO SEE YOU COME IN HERE TODAY AND START THAT CONVERSATION SOMETIME AGO, I THINK IS FORWARD MOVING. UH, AND IN MY OPINION, UH, I I GUESS THE, THE, THE COMMENT, THE ONLY QUESTION I WOULD HAVE, AND I THINK YOU ANSWERED IT, UM, BROADLY, IS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ZONING HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THIS TYPE OF BILL. BECAUSE CURRENTLY IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THAT IS SUPPORTED BY THAT. AND WHAT WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T WANT TO DO IS MAKE SOME DECISION AND THEN HAVE TO COME BACK TO GO THROUGH ZONING TO MAKE SURE THAT IT IS PROPERLY DONE IF IT'S NOT. YEAH. SO IN THOSE INITIAL CONVERSATIONS, UM, WHAT WE UNDERSTAND, UH, IS THAT WHAT WE'VE DESIGNED MEETS THOSE CURRENT REQUIREMENTS WITHOUT MUCH CHANGES. SO THERE MAY BE AT SOME POINT A, A, A SMALL TEXT AMENDMENT AMENDMENT OR SOMETHING THAT'S NEEDED. BUT OTHERWISE, [00:40:01] WHAT WE'VE BEEN TOLD BY ROBERT AND, AND JESSICA AND THE TEAM IS THAT, UH, THEY ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND IT MEETS THOSE REQUIREMENTS. SO, UH, OUTSIDE OF MAYBE ONE OR TWO LITTLE MINOR THINGS, THERE'S NOTHING THAT'S PROHIBITED US FROM BEING, BEING ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THEM AND UH, AND THAT CAME FROM, FROM THEM DIRECTLY. OKAY. UM, AND SO AGAIN, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATION OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS IN REGARDS TO THE AVENUES PROJECT AND UH, IN MY OPINION AS UM, JAMIA MENTIONED, UH, IT WOULD MAKE THE MOST SENSE OBVIOUS FOR YOU GUYS TO PURCHASE AND DEVELOP THE PROPERTY. SURE. UH, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S WHAT YOUR APPETITE IS FOR, UH, IN MY OPINION. OBVIOUSLY THIS GIVES US A VERY GOOD START IN BEING ABLE TO START THE AVENUES PROJECT AND I THINK ALL THE THINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED ARE RIGHT ON TRACK WITH WHAT THIS REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION SHOULD BE DOING. AND I THINK THIS WOULD BE A HUGE WIN IF WE WENT THAT DIRECTION. YES SIR. UH, I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE FROM COUNCIL? YES MA'AM. TAMISHA, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTION? WELL, IT, IT MIGHT BE, BUT I WANTED TO SEE, UM, LIKE WHAT VICTOR WAS SAYING, IF IT MAKES SENSE NOW IN THIS SITUATION IS TO GIVE DIRECTION TO JUST WELL I THINK THAT'S THE, THE WHOLE PROJECT BECAUSE FOR ME, I WOULD LOVE THE TO SEE, UH, THE UH, A BIG SIGN OUT THERE OF THOSE TWO HOUSES BECAUSE THEN THAT ALLOWS US TO SPEAK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, HEY, LET'S GET YOU READY TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE A HOME. YEAH. AND YOU SEE IT TO SEE THAT VISION, I THINK TO JUST LOCK IT IN. 'CAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE. LOCK IT IN. IF THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT, THEN I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. NOW FROM A PROCEDURAL STANDPOINT, I THINK FIRST AND FOREMOST WE HAVE TO GET THAT, THOSE LOTS BACK ON THE SELLABLE LIST FIRST AND FOREMOST. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. THAT IS YOUR FIRST PROCEDURAL STEP. SO IF IT IS THE MAJORITY OF YOU ALL TO HAVE THESE LOTS AVAILABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TONIGHT TO PUT THE LOTS BACK ON THE SELLABLE LOTS LIST. HOWEVER, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL ENVISIONING THE SAME LOTS. UM, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT I THINK MR. BORNER WAS CONTEMPLATING MAYBE SUBDIVISION IN THE FUTURE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE TWO SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES. IS THAT CORRECT? YOU MEAN THE SUBDIVISION OF DEPARTMENT? YES. YES. OKAY. SO, SO WHAT WHAT OUR GOAL IS, IS TO ACQUIRE LOTS 58 AND 59 MM-HMM . AND THEN COME BACK, UH, AS THE ATTORNEY INDICATED TO, TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK. AND THEN WHEN WE BUILD THE UH, UM, UH, FOUR UH, TOWN HOMES, IT'S SUBDIVIDED THE LOTS THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR SINGLE FAMILY. 'CAUSE NATURALLY OUR GOAL IS TO MAKE THOSE AVAILABLE FOR FOUR SALE UNITS WHERE WE WILL BE ABLE TO KEEP THE REMAINING UNITS. BUT IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE FIRST NEED TO BUY BOTH LOTS AND THEN COME BACK AND SUBDIVIDE FOR THOSE TWO, UH, LOTS TO BE ABLE TO BE DONE A SINGLE FAMILY FOR SALE UNIT. SO THE ILLUSTRATION ON THE SCREEN DEPICTS WHAT I BELIEVE IS ALL OF THE REAL ESTATE ON FIRST AVENUE ON THE WEST SIDE. THAT IS CON THAT IS CURRENTLY OWNED BY THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. SO THAT IS FROM ELM NORTHWARD ON FIRST AVENUE, WHICH CURRENTLY IS TWO LOTS. THAT'S CORRECT. AND THOSE LOTS ARE IDENTIFIED ON YOUR AGENDA BY THEIR PARCEL NUMBER. MM-HMM . SO I THINK THE REQUEST AT THIS POINT IS TO, FOR YOU ALL TO CONSIDER PLACING THE TWO LOTS, UM, THAT ARE IDENTIFIED ON YOUR AGENDA ON THE SABLE LOTS LIST. THAT IS STEP NUMBER ONE. RIGHT. AND JUST TO BE CLEAR, IT'S THE LARGE, THE LARGER LOT AND THEN THAT CORNER LOT THERE THAT'S ON THE BOTTOM OF CEDAR STREET. YEAH. SO RIGHT NOW WHAT, UM, MARVIN HAD PROVIDED, UH, BASED ON ALL OF THE LOTS THAT ARE, UH, ARE THAT EXIST THERE, THOSE ARE CONSIDERED LOT 58 AND 59. GOTCHA. RIGHT. BUT THEN THERE'S A LOT THAT WE OWN, WHICH IS IDENTIFIED UP HERE AS 87. IS THAT NOT INCLUDED IN THAT? THERE'S THAT LAST LOT THERE THAT IS ON THE EDGE. THE LAST LOT THERE. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THAT IS INCLUDED ON THE TWO LOTS THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING. SO THERE'S A LOT THERE. ADDRESS IS 7 0 3 FIRST STREET, UH, JAMIE, BUT THAT LOT DOES NOT LOOK TO BE INCLUDED IN WHAT HE'S REQUESTING. OKAY, I SEE. YEAH, WHAT WE DESIGNED OFF OF WAS, AS YOU LOOK AT THIS, IT'S 58 AND 59. YEAH. I GUESS MY QUESTION WOULD BE WOULD YOU ENTERTAIN OR BE INTERESTED IN THAT LOT THAT'S CONNECTED TO, TO THAT THAT'S INCLUDED. SO IF YOU LOOK LOT ADDRESS 7 0 3 FIRST AVENUE MM-HMM . IS THE LOT THAT'S AT THE INTERSECTION OF ELM AND FIRST AVENUE. CORRECT. AND I THINK THAT IS INCLUDED IN THE REQUEST BEFORE YOU, YOU TODAY. OKAY. SO AS MARVIN IS ZOOMING IN, YOU CAN SEE THAT RED DASHED OUTLINE MM-HMM . YEAH, I SEE IT. OKAY. THOSE ARE THE TWO CONTIGUOUS PARCELS. UNDERSTOOD. UM, THE FOLLOW UP QUESTION I WOULD HAVE IS IF WE PUT THEM FOR SALE, IS HE UP AGAINST SAY HYPOTHETICALLY SO TOMORROW WANTS TO BID AGAINST IT AND PURCHASE THOSE LANDS OVER HIM BECAUSE WE'RE DOING IT? OR ARE WE ABLE TO BE BASICALLY, SAY WE'RE PUTTING THEM, IT WOULDN'T BE AN UPSET BID PROCESS FOR, IT WOULD NOT BE AN UPSET BID PROCESS BECAUSE HE'S A GOVERNMENTAL AGENCY. SO I JUST WANTED MR. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY [00:45:01] IS A ENTITY CARRYING OUT A PUBLIC PURPOSE THEY CAN BUY WITHOUT GOING THROUGH THE COMPETITIVE BID PROCESS. BY PUTTING THE, THE LOTS ON THE SELLABLE LIST, UM, LIST, MR. BORNER CAN THEN GO TO THE CITY CLERK AND MAKE AN OFFER TO PURCHASE. YOU CAN TALK NUMBERS, YOU CAN TALK SPECIFICS SO THAT YOU ALL, UM, HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU MIGHT NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH A A TRANSACTION. PERFECT. OKAY. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE A MOTION IN REGARDS TO THIS? OR IS THIS, DO YOU GUYS WANT TO TABLE THAT? SO DO WE HAVE A MOTION? YEAH, LET ME CLARIFY. ARE WE TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION TO SELL 58 AND 59? NO. OR TO ADD THE TWO LOTS? THAT'S NOT ON THE SELLABLE. NO, WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE A MOTION TO SELL THOSE TO, TO PUT THOSE LOTS ON THE SELLABLE LIST FIRST AND FOREMOST. AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK TO THAT. SO I, I MOVE THAT WE MAKE A MOTION TO ADD LOTS 58 AND 59 TO THE SELLABLE LIST. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR? AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? GREAT. THANK YOU ALL. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM NUMBER [8. Discussion Regarding Property Request by Mr. Torrance Chapman ] EIGHT, DISCUSSION REGARDING, UH, REQUEST BY MR. TORRANCE CHAPMAN, WHO I DO NOT SEE HERE. SO WE WILL MOVE RIGHT ALONG. SO, UM, MR. CHAIR MEMBERS OF THE BOARD, YES, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THIS ITEM HAS BEEN ON YOUR AGENDA FOR QUITE SOME TIME. I THINK THE BACKUP DOCUMENTS INDICATE THAT THE OFFICE OF PURCHASE WAS SUBMITTED TO YOU ALL BACK IN DECEMBER OF 2025. IT'S BEEN CONTINUED SEVERAL TIMES. UH, I THINK ONCE OR TWICE FOR THE COMMISSION, SEVERAL TIMES ON BEHALF OF MR. CHAPMAN. I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD IS. UM, BUT CONSIDERING THE PASSAGE OF TIME, THERE ARE SOME OPTIONS BEFORE YOU TONIGHT. ONE OPTION, UM, IF THERE'S INFORMATION PROVIDED BY MR. CHAPMAN THAT YOU COULD RELY UPON TO YOUR SATISFACTION ABOUT WHAT HIS CONCEPT IS, YOU COULD VOTE TO INITIATE THE UPSET BID PROCESS. HOWEVER, IF YOU DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT INFORMATION, UM, GIVEN THE PASSAGE OF TIME, YOU CAN VOTE TO REJECT HIS BID AND THIS PROPERTY WOULD OTHERWISE BE AVAILABLE FOR OTHERS TO OFFER TO PURCHASE THIS PROPERTY AND MAKE PRESENTATIONS TO YOU CONCERNING YOUR USE. THANK YOU. I GUESS IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THAT? DO WE, DO WE STILL HAVE UH, HIS DRAWINGS? THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION. UH, I KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE. DO YOU WANNA ANSWER THAT QUESTION, MARVIN? THERE THERE WERE NEVER ANY DRAWINGS, UH, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT COULD BE BUILT OUT THERE BECAUSE HIS INITIAL REQUEST WAS TO EXPAND HIS PROPERTY AND THAT WAS NOT ALLOWED BY, UH, IN THAT, IN THAT, UH, ZONING BY THE, BY THE ZONING. SO THERE WAS NEVER A DESIGN SHOWING WHERE HE WOULD BE UTILIZING THE PROPERTY FOR, UH, ANY TYPE OF BILL? YEAH, I I THINK THAT THERE WAS SOME, IT, HIS PURPOSE HAS CHANGED A COUPLE TIMES. I THINK THAT THERE WAS INITIALLY A, SOME MISCOMMUNICATION ON WHAT HE COULD AND COULD NOT DO THERE. UH, AND I WOULDN'T SAY WE ADVISED, I THINK THAT HE WALKED AWAY FROM THIS MEETING THINKING THAT HE COULD DO SOMETHING. I THINK HE LEARNED, UH, LATER THAT WEEK THAT HE WAS NOT ABLE TO DO WHAT IT WAS THAT HE THOUGHT HE WAS GONNA DO, COULD DO. UH, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT NOW HE IS PREPARED TO, UH, POTENTIALLY PUT A STRUCTURE ON THE PROPERTY. UH, I GUESS SIMILAR TO WHAT, UH, JAMIE IS SAYING IS WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT AT THIS POINT IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS. UH, IN ALL FAIRNESS, I THINK BECAUSE IT'S KIND OF WENT BACK AND FORTH AND HIM TRYING TO UH, FIGURE OUT WHAT HIS PURPOSE WOULD BE FOR THAT LOT AND THEN GETTING SOME INSTRUCTION FROM US. AND I WOULDN'T SAY INSTRUCTION FROM US, BUT THERE WAS A CONVERSATION IN REGARDS TO THE PARKING LOT. UH, MAYBE WE SHOULD GIVE HIM ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT, UH, TO DO THAT. IF, IF YOU GUYS FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD NOT DO THAT, I'M FINE EITHER WAY. NOT SURE IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE WHY HE'S NOT HERE. UM, BUT IT WOULD SEEM TO BE FAIR TO MAYBE GIVE HIM ONE MORE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF, IF HE CAN, UH, MEET THE, UH, REQUIREMENTS THAT WE HAVE AND IF NOT, UH, TO PUT IT BACK ON OUR SELLABLE LIST. SO, UH, ANY DISCUSSION IN REGARDS TO THAT? YES, MS. HARRIS? MY ONLY DISCUSSION IS, UM, DO I NEED TO KIND OF ABSTAIN 'CAUSE I WASN'T HERE FOR THESE INTERACTIONS. NO MA'AM. YOU'RE, IF NOT, THEN I WOULD AGREE. GIVE ONE MORE CHANCE. IF NOT, GET IT OFF THE UM, SO THAT IT CAN BE AVAILABLE FOR SOMEBODY ELSE TO PURCHASE. OKAY. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING MR. REGGIE? DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN REGARDS TO THAT? I THINK WE NEED TO GIVE HIM ONE MORE 'CAUSE WE HAD QUITE A BIT OF DISCUSSION AND, AND IN THE PROCESS OF TRYING TO HELP REDEVELOP AND THE LATITUDE THAT HE HAD IN HIS DISCUSSION FROM WANTING TO TRY TO DO SOMETHING IN THAT AREA. LET'S HEAR HIM ONE FINAL TIME IN MY OPINION. SO IS THERE [00:50:01] A MOTION THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN WITH THAT JAMIE? OR IS THAT YES, CONNOR. ALRIGHT. DO I HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ALLOW MR. CHAPMAN TO COME AND PRESENT, UM, ON, WAS IT THE NEXT MEETING? WE CARRIED IT OVER TO NEXT MEETING OR DO WE GET REACH OUT TO SEE WHEN HE, I THINK IT WOULD BE THE SEPTEMBER MEETING THAT HE WOULD NEED TO FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING. SEPTEMBER 9TH. FOR THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING. SO MS. HARRIS, I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR MOTION TO BE CONTINUING THIS ACTION ITEM TO THE SEPTEMBER 9TH MEETING. YES. TO ALLOW HIM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND PRESENT ON HIS REQUEST? YES. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECONDED ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR. A A. ANY OPPOSED? THERE YOU HAVE IT. NEXT MEETING. MR. CHAPMAN. [9. Discussion Regarding Property Request by Mr. Ed McGovern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iscussion on Final Versions of the Offer to Purchase and Quitclaim Deed] ITEM NUMBER 10, DISCUSSION ON FINAL VERSIONS OF THE OFFER TO PURCHASE AND QUIT CLAIM DEED. SO MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION IN YOUR AGENDA PACKAGE, YOU'VE RECEIVED DOCUMENTS THAT WE HAVE DISCUSSED AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS, UM, AND WE DID NOT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO FORMALLY APPROVE THESE DOCUMENTS AT THE LAST MEETING. SO THEY'RE BEFORE YOU YET AGAIN. UM, IT'S AN OFFER TO PURCHASE THAT HAS BEEN INCLUDED, WHICH SETS OUT KIND OF THE PARAMETERS FOR PURCHASING PROPERTIES FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, 30 DAYS TO CLOSE, UM, OTHERWISE VERY STANDARD CONDITIONS. AND IT ALSO INCORPORATES OUR RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS. AND WE'VE TALKED, UM, CONSIDERABLY OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS ABOUT STANDARDIZING RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS FOR PROP FOR PROPERTIES THAT YOU ALL ARE SELLING. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU ALL ARE PRIORITIZING THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UM, SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROPERTIES THAT YOU ALL ARE SELLING. SINCE WE UNDERSTAND THAT TO BE THE CASE, THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT ARE SET OUT IN THESE DOCUMENTS CONTEMPLATE THE CONSTRUCTION OF SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. IF I KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF BEAT THIS TO DEATH, SO IF YOU HAVE ANY SPECIFIC QUESTIONS, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. OTHERWISE, IF YOU'RE SATISFIED WITH THESE DOCUMENTS AND THE RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED BASED ON YOUR YOUR CONVERSATION, YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THESE PURCHASE DOCUMENTS. YES, SIR. MR. STRICKLAND. UM, SO JUST ASK THE QUESTION, IF, IF SOMEONE WERE TO APPROACH US WITH A DIFFERENT IDEA TO BUILD MULTIFAMILY OR ANYTHING ELSE OF THAT NATURE, WE WOULD NOT BE BOUND BY WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON OR KIND OF TRYING TO STANDARDIZE HERE. THIS WOULD JUST BE OUR KIND OF BASELINE OFFER TO PURCHASE. THIS IS YOUR BASELINE. A MAJORITY OF YOU ALL CAN CHANGE YOUR MIND AT ANY TIME. SO LET'S JUST SAY DOWN, YOU KNOW, SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, SOMEBODY COMES TO YOU AND WANTS TO DO A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT, THEY CAN COME MAKE THAT PRESENTATION TO YOU ALL AND THEN YOU ALL CAN DETERMINE AT THAT POINT IF WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE ADOPTED REDEVELOPMENT PLAN AND GIVE DIRECTION TO STAFF, UM, TO PROCESS THAT TRANSACTION ACCORDINGLY. OKAY. BUT WE'RE NOT GONNA DELAY THEM IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM FROM MAKING AN OFFER. BY DOING THAT. WE, I GUESS, COULD, COULD THEY MAKE AN OFFER BEFORE WE OFFICIALLY AGREE TO MAKE A CHANGE BY VIRTUE OF THIS BEING OUR, OUR STANDARD OFFER? THE STANDARD, THIS PROPOSED STANDARD OFFER TO PURCHASE FORM INCORPORATES RESTRICTIVE COVENANTS THAT CONTEMPLATE RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT IN THAT OFFICE OF PURCHASE FORM, SOMEBODY COULD CROSS OUT THAT AND SAY, I WANNA DO MULTI-FAMILY AND SUBMIT THAT OFFER TO YOU ALL FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION, WHICH YOU COULD SUBSEQUENTLY EITHER ACCEPT OR REJECT. SO IT'S A LONG WAY OF SAYING IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO DELAY THE PROCESS, BUT IT, THE, THE DEFAULT OPTION IS SINGLE FAMILY CONSTRUCTION. I THINK THIS, WHAT THIS DOES IS THIS GIVES US KIND OF A STANDARD RIGHT NOW. THERE'S TOO MANY VARIABLES IN THE SELLING OF PROPERTY. I THINK THE ONLY QUESTION THAT I WOULD HAVE IS IT, HAVE WE EVER WENT AND LOOKED AT THE LOTS TO DETERMINE THAT WHAT WAS SELLABLE BASED ON SIZE AND WHAT WAS NOT SELLABLE? SO THAT WHEN WE RUN INTO THE QUESTION OF SOMEONE SAYING, HEY, I WANT TO EXTEND MY MY YARD. I DON'T WANNA PUT A STRUCTURE THERE. UH, AND WHEN WE RECOGNIZE THAT THE LOT IS SMALL AND THEY CANNOT PUT A STRUCTURE THERE, HAVE WE IDENTIFIED THOSE LOTS THAT WE DO NOT WANT TO SELL? I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT THAT'S NOT PRETTY MUCH ALL THE LOTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE, WERE LOTS THAT WERE REQUESTED FOR YOU ALL TO BE ABLE TO DEVELOP ON. SO I KNOW IN THE PAST THERE WAS ONE, MAYBE TWO LOTS THAT WERE GIVEN, UH, UH, ALLOWED TO BE, UH, GIVEN TO, UH, A HOMEOWNER TO EXTEND THEIR LOT. BUT I BELIEVE, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, THOSE LOTS WERE ACTUALLY OWNED BY THE CITY. THAT WAS DURING THE TIME WHEN THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSIONS ALLOWED TO, UM, BASICALLY, UM, LOOK AT WHETHER OR NOT THE PURPOSE, WHAT THEY, YOUR PURPOSE IS BEING CARRIED OUT BY THOSE LOTS. UM, THE, UM, APPROXIMATELY 24, 25 SELLABLE LOTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE RIGHT NOW ARE CONSIDERED LOTS THAT ARE BUILDABLE BASED ON WHATEVER SIZE STRUCTURE YOU, YOU ALL APPROVE TO GO ON IT. SO, AND, AND THAT'S KIND OF A SEPARATE QUESTION. UM, QUESTION NUMBER ONE IS, ARE THESE DOCUMENTS WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH? IF THAT IS THE CASE, THEN YOU MAY WANT TO, YOU KNOW, REVISIT THE LIST TO PRIORITIZE. OKAY. WHICH LOTS ARE, LET'S JUST SAY OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN AND MAYBE THE EASIEST TO DEVELOP FOR MFI CONSTRUCTION, WHAT LOTS ARE NEXT TO EACH OTHER SUCH THAT THEY MIGHT BE REPACKAGED FOR, [01:00:01] UM, A DEVELOPER WHO MIGHT BE INTERESTED IN MORE THAN JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OR WANTS TO DO MULTIPLE PROJECTS. SO I I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU ALL TO CONSIDER THE DOCUMENTS FIRST AND THEN MAYBE ANALYZING THE LOTS THAT YOU HAVE FOR SALE AS A, A SEPARATE ACTION ITEM. YEAH, AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT COMPLETELY, BUT I THINK THAT, AND I'M, AND I'M, AND I'M, I'M FINE EITHER WAY, BUT I THINK WE ALREADY RECOGNIZE THE LOTS THAT ARE, UH, OUT OF THE FLOOD ZONE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT ON THE LIST. RIGHT. AND SO WE RECOGNIZE THAT THAT'S THE CASE. I GUESS I, I'M FINE. UH, THE HIGH LEVEL KIND OF THINGS THERE. AND THIS, UH, RESOLUTION, A FINAL VERSION IS THERE'S SIX MONTHS TO PULL THE PERMIT. CORRECT. THERE'S 20, UH, 12 MONTHS TO START DEVELOPMENT AND THEN THERE'S 24 MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT ACCURATE? YES, SIR. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO A PIECE THERE THAT IS SPEAKING TO, UH, WHO THE HOME COULD BE RENTED TO. COULD YOU SPEAK TO THAT FOR ME? YES, SIR. UM, AS IT'S BEING PROPOSED, WE HAVE PROPOSED A TIME LIMIT FOR EITHER OWNER OCCUPANCY OR RENT OR SELL TO LOW TO MODERATE INCOME PERSONS. WE HAVE ALSO INDICATED A BLANK THAT GIVES YOU A DATE WHERE THESE RESTRICTIONS CAN TERMINATE. SO THE RESTRICTIONS THAT APPLY TO THIS LOT DO NOT HAVE TO RUN WITH THE LAND UNTIL THE END OF THE WORLD. IF YOU ALL DETERMINE IN YOUR INFINITE WISDOM THAT THAT INCOME RESTRICTION PORTION SHOULD ONLY APPLY FOR ONE YEAR OR FIVE YEARS OR 10 YEARS, YOU HAVE THAT OPTION. SO IN RETROSPECT, IT'S JUST, HEY, WE ARE JUST TO BE CLEAR, UNDERSTANDING THAT WE SET THIS INTO PLACE, IF THAT, SO BE THE BOARD'S APPETITE, WE ARE ABLE TO MAKE CHANGES AS IT RELATES TO AN INDIVIDUAL SITUATION. IF THERE ARE CIRCUMSTANCE THAT REQUIRE DEVIATION, LET'S JUST SAY, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY HAS FE FINANCING FOR THE DEVELOPMENT AND THEY NEED 36 MONTHS AS OPPOSED TO 24, YOU ALL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO EVALUATE THAT ON A CASE BY CASE BASIS. BUT ADOPTING THESE DOCUMENTS GIVE THE PUBLIC A REASONABLE EXPECTATION OF WHAT MAY BE REQUIRED OF THEM IF THEY WANT TO PURCHASE PROPERTY FROM THE REDEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. JUST FOR CLARITY IN THAT STATEMENT THAT YOU SAID, AND WHAT, UM, CHAIR STEWART IS SAYING IS THAT THIS IS THE BLUEPRINT, BUT IF I WANT TO PURCHASE AND DO SOME EXTRA STUFF, I CAN CROSS OUT ON THIS AND WE AS A BOARD CAN ACCEPT THAT OR REJECT IT OR REJECT IT. BUT THIS IS THE BASIS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING. BLUEPRINT? YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. THANK YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE THE FINAL VERSIONS OF THE OFFER TO PURCHASE IN QUICK CLAIMS DEED. DO WE HAVE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE MOTION CARRIES. [11.a. Introduction of RDC Admin Assistant] ITEM NUMBER 11, NEW BUSINESS INTRODUCTION OF THE RDC ADMIN ASSISTANT. HI EVERYONE. CHAIR, BEFORE WE, BEFORE WE GO THERE, COULD WE ALSO RECOGNIZED THAT, UM, 'CAUSE LAST MONTH WE DID NOT HAVE A QUORUM, SO WE WERE NOT ABLE TO OFFICIALLY RECOGNIZE THE NEW, UM, COMMISSIONER THAT WE HAVE, COMMISSIONER HARRIS AS WELL. AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE REAPPOINTED TWO NEW, UH, TWO COMMISSIONERS, UH, COMMISSIONER DOVE, AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER MORGAN. SO JUST LIKE TO RECOGNIZE PERMISSION IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO DO THAT NOW. YES, THAT WAS ONE OF THE ITEMS I WAS GONNA ADDRESS, BUT YES SIR. WELCOME ABOARD. MS. ISHA HARRIS, FORMER ALBAN, THANK YOU FOR HAVING AND COMING TO BE WITH US. AND WELCOME BACK, COMMISSIONER DOVE OF BEING REAPPOINTED. AND WHO WAS THE SECOND PERSON, SIR? COMMISSIONER MORGAN. COMM. COMMISSIONER MORGAN. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR COMING BACK. COMMISSIONER MORGAN, WE LOOK FORWARD TO WORKING TOGETHER. LISTEN GUYS, AND HOPEFULLY WE CONTINUE TO TRY TO MAKE SOMETHING COME TOGETHER HERE. SO THANK YOU MR. MARVIN, FOR BRINGING IT TO OUR ATTENTION. ALRIGHT, AND WITH THE, UM, REDEVELOPMENT, UH, COMMISSIONER, ADMIN ASSISTANT, UM, WE WELCOME MY, MY, MY HELPER BECAUSE I, I DEFINITELY NEED IT. UH, AND SHE'S GONNA BE PRESENT FOR WHATEVER YOU ALL MAY NEED WHEN I'M NOT AROUND, AS WELL AS, UM, UM, ANSWERING A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS, ESPECIALLY, SHE'S VERY IN DEPTH, IN DEPTH WITH THE, UM, CDBG AS WELL. SO THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, BENEFITS WE'RE GONNA HAVE. BUT, UH, MISS DEIA HELPING OUT WITH THIS PROGRAM. HEY, EVERYBODY. . HELLO. WELL, LET ME BE THE FIRST TO SAY THANK YOU. I'M HERE WORKING IN THE BACKGROUND, SO ABSOLUTELY. BUT YOU GUYS KNOW HOW TO GET IN TOUCH WITH ME FOR ANYTHING. YOU ARE VERY VALUED. YOU HAVE A LOT, LOT OF RESOURCES AND A LOT OF KNOWLEDGE THAT A LOT OF FOLKS DON'T NECESSARILY KNOW THAT YOU HAVE. SO IT'S, UH, REALLY GOOD TO HAVE YOU AS A PART OF THE TEAM. SO WELCOME ABOARD. THANK YOU. ITEM [11.b. Workgroup Reports] [01:05:01] B. YES, SIR. WHILE WE'RE DOING THE CELEBRATIONS, WE CELEBRATE, GOT THE FULL, FULL HOUSE TODAY. WE HAVE A FULL HOUSE. YOU'RE SAYING THAT WE HAVE EVERYONE HERE. WELL, THERE WE GO, EVERYBODY. HERE WE GO. WE HAVE, THIS SHOULD BE EXPECTED, BUT HEY, WE HAVE EVERYONE IN PLACE TODAY, SO THANK EVERYONE FOR MAKING, UH, TIME IN YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE. AND AS WE, UH SAID BEGINNING OF THE MEETING, HERE IT IS MR. REGGIE'S BIRTHDAY. AND SO THANK YOU MR. REGGIE AGAIN FOR TAKING TIME OUTTA YOUR BUSY SCHEDULE TO BE HERE WHEN YOU CAN BE OTHER PLACES. OKAY. WORKING GROUPS, UH, PROPERTY SALES, UH, COMMISSIONER, IT WAS COMMISSIONER PROCTOR, COMMISSIONER, UH, STRICKLAND. DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING IN REGARDS TO THAT THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO REPORT? NO, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. UH, MARKETING COMMISSIONER DOVE. YES. UM, I'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND SPEAKING WITH, UM, MS. HARRIS, BUT, AND WE'VE BEEN PUTTING TOGETHER, I GUESS YOU WOULD SAY, UM, PRELIMINARY STRUCTURE FOR HOW WE AS A COMMISSION CAN WORK TOGETHER AND GO FORWARD WITH, UM, A STRONG MARKETING CAMPAIGN. UM, AND HERE IT IS. THANK YOU, MR. MARVIN. HE'S PLACED UP WHAT WE'VE PUT TOGETHER. UM, I WOULD GO THROUGH A PAGE FOR PAGE, BUT WHAT I WOULD ASK FOR HIM TO DO IS TO MAKE SURE HE SENDS THIS OUT TO EACH ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS PRESENT. AND YOU ALL TAKE YOUR TIME UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING AND GO THROUGH EACH, EACH STEP CROSS, EVERY T DOT, EVERY I. UM, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I NEED TO GO BACK AND VERIFY ARE THE LOT SIZES AND THE AREAS. UM, I SPOKE WITH SOME GREAT PEOPLE TODAY AND THEY SHOWED ME SOME AREAS AND I TRIED TO CORRECT THEM. BUT BASICALLY THIS WILL GIVE US FROM START TO FINISH WHAT WE NEED TO DO. AND WHEN YOU GET INTO THIS DOCUMENT, YOU'LL SEE SOME OF THE THINGS ARE ALREADY BEING DONE, BUT I JUST INCLUDED THEM ANYWAY, JUST SO WE CAN SEE THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT'S NECESSARY TO HAVE A, A PROFITABLE AND A SUCCESSFUL MARKETING PROGRAM, WHICH WILL ALSO INCLUDE THE SIGNAGE. UM, AND ULTIMATELY WHAT I WOULD LIKE, IF WE ALL CAN AGREE TO, UH, YOU ALL AGREE THAT WOULD BE UM, BENEFICIAL, IS TO MAYBE PLAN A LUNCHEON AFTER WE INVITE, UM, SPECIFIC BUILDERS. WE'LL, YOU KNOW, PICK SOME BUILDERS, BUT ALSO HAVE AN OPEN INVITATION FOR THOSE THAT MAY WANT TO COME. AND AS THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION, WE DO A LUNCHEON WHERE WE WILL ALSO, WHEN WE ALL COME TOGETHER AND FINALIZE THIS DOCUMENT, WE'LL PRESENT THIS TO THEM WITH A VISION ON SOME PARTICULAR LOTS. LIKE THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT RENDITIONS OF HOMES OR WHAT WE SEE CAN BE ON THESE LOTS AND HOPEFULLY THAT THEY WILL BUY IN FROM THE WORK THAT WE PUT IN THIS MARKETING PROGRAM. BUT WHEN YOU ALL HAVE TIME, I WANT YOU TO GO OVER IT AND THEN WE CAN REALLY NEXT MONTH GO INTO THE MARKETING, UM, SECTION AND WE CAN DISCUSS IT AND TEAR IT APART AND REBUILD IT TOGETHER. ANY DISCUSSION. ALSO, ALSO, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER DOVE HAD, UH, AND THE COMMISSION HAVE ASKED FOR SOME, UH, PRICING IN, UH, IN ORDER TO DO SOME SIGNAGE FOR THE LOTS. AND WE LOOKED INTO THAT. AND FOR THE THREE BY FIVE SIGNS, UH, SINGLE SIDE, UH, THE PRICE WAS GONNA BE $240. UH, OR IF IT WAS DOUBLE SIDED, IT WOULD BE $336, UH, PER LOT. UH, PLUS A HUNDRED DOLLARS FOR THE POST AND VINYL SHELL, UM, SLEEVES. IF, IF, IF WE WERE GONNA PUT, UH, SIGNAGE UP FOR THE DIFFERENT LICENSE AND FOR THE LARGER SIGN, UH, 18 BY 24, UH, SIGN, IT WAS GONNA BE, UM, $28 FOR, UH, SO AS IT GOES DOWN, THE MORE YOU GET YEAH, TO GET MORE, UH, $15, UM, EACH IN, IN, IN ORDER, UM, TO, TO, UH, IF, IF WE WERE GONNA ORDER 30 SIGNS, SO FOR, FOR THOSE, UH, SMALLER SIGNS, WE'D BE ABLE TO TO, THOSE WERE THE PRICES FOR 'EM. SO, AND, AND I SENT THAT OUT TO ALL THE MEMBERS. IF YOU ALL ARE INTERESTED IN POSTING THE SIGNAGE ON ANY OF THE LOTS, JUST GIVE US DIRECTION AND WE WILL ALL LOOK AT THE PROCEEDING. AM I READING SOMETHING WRONG? I'M MISSING SOMETHING Y'ALL. THE THREE FOOT BY FIVE FOOT IS, OR THE LARGER SIZE? THE BIG SIZE. THERE IT IS. OKAY. ALRIGHT. IT WAS INVERSE. OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. OKAY, WE'RE GOOD. DO WE HAVE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT? I MEAN, ONCE WE COME TOGETHER AND GET EVERYTHING DOWN PACKED, WE'LL BE ABLE TO SELECT AND PICK. 'CAUSE I BELIEVE SOME OF THOSE LOTS MIGHT NEED TO HAVE A, A RENDITION OF A FUTURE PROPERTY THAT CAN BE ON, ON THAT PROPERTY AS WELL. YOU KNOW, IN MY OPINION. BUT DEFINITELY WE ARE A BOARD, SO WE'LL HAVE TO COME TOGETHER ON THAT AND MAKE THOSE DECISIONS TOGETHER. THE ONLY ADDED THING THAT [01:10:01] I WOULD WANT TO, UM, KNOW OR, UM, DISCUSS OR HAVE A THOUGHT IS, IS THAT IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD WITH, BECAUSE IT'S A LUNCHEON, CAN WE CREATE A BUDGET OF, YOU KNOW, WHAT WE NEED TO HAVE AVAILABLE? BECAUSE OBVIOUSLY FOOD AND OBVIOUSLY WE WANT TO USE ONE OF OUR OWN BUILDINGS AND LOCATION, BUT JUST SO WE HAVE A WORKING BUDGET OF KNOWING WHAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE WE WANT IT TO, YOU KNOW, WE WANT TO PRESENT IT, YOU KNOW, TO A TOP STANDARD THAT'S IMPORTANT. WE JUST DON'T WANNA BE THROWING DARTS AND NOT KNOW, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN GO HERE TO HAVE FOOD OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. SO I THINK A BUDGET IS IMPORTANT. YEAH, I THINK WE HAVE SOME BUDGETED ITEMS ALREADY. I, I CAN'T SPEAK TO HOW THAT WOULD WORK. MAYBE JAMIE, YOU CAN, THE ITEMS THAT ARE BUDGETED, WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THERE'S A LIST THAT'S BEEN PROVIDED OF BUILDERS THAT HAVE WORKED WITH THE RDC THAT WE COULD SHARE WITH YOU AND SEND OVER, UH, OF BUILDERS, UH, THAT HAVE, HAVE WORKED. SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE IMPORTANT TO HAVE AS WELL. UM, SO IN, IN REGARDS TO THAT, I SOUNDS LIKE THAT'S A FOLLOW UP CONVERSATION TO HAVE THAT YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO DOT SOME I'S ACROSS SOME T'S IN REGARDS TO THAT. UH, ONE OF THE, THE ONLY THING I WOULD SAY IN REGARDS TO THAT IS THAT THERE WAS A CONVERSATION, AND TO ME IT FALLS INTO MARKETING WHERE THERE SHOULD KIND OF BE SOME EDUCATION GIVEN TO RESIDENTS TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. UH, IT DOESN'T SEEM TO ME THAT THE COMMUNITY'S EDUCATED ON WHAT THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION'S, UH, POSITION IS OR JOB IS. I KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME, BEEN SOME CONVERSATION AND SOME MEETINGS OVER THE LAST COUPLE MONTHS, UH, IN REGARDS TO, UH, MINIMUM, UH, HOUSING STANDARDS. UH, AND I WOULD JUST THINK THAT AT SOME POINT, IF YOU GUYS COULD LOOK AT POTENTIALLY DOING SOME TYPE OF, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW, SEMINAR EDUCATION PARTICULARLY TO PEOPLE THAT ARE RENTING VERSUS PEOPLE THAT OWN THE HOMES, UH, SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND WHEN THESE THINGS START HAPPENING, UH, IN REGARDS TO MINIMUM HOUSING STANDARD AND VIOLATIONS, UM, THAT, YOU KNOW, THEY DESERVE BETTER QUALITY HOUSING. UH, AND IF THE LANDLORD IS NOT DOING THAT, THEN THIS IS WHY THIS IS HAPPENING. UH, BUT I DO THINK THAT IF YOU GUYS COULD LOOK AT SOME EDUCATIONAL COMPONENTS IN THE MARKETING WOULD BE VERY, VERY HELPFUL JUST AS A RECOMMENDATION. THANK YOU. AND WHILE WE'RE HAVING THAT, UH, SEMINAR, WE MIGHT WANNA GO AHEAD AND ADD, 'CAUSE WE SAID EARLIER THAT, UH, WE WANTED TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY REGARDING THOSE MANUFACTURE HOMES. WE DO ALL THAT AT ONE TIME. WELL, I THINK THAT IS A JESSICA CONVERSATION. SHE WAS MENTIONING THAT IF THEY, WE DO DO THE AMENDMENT TO THAT, THAT THEY HAVE TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING. SO I THINK THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT THINGS. IS THAT CORRECT? SO I, I UNDERSTAND IT UNDERSTOOD IT A BIT DIFFERENTLY. I THINK, UM, COMMISSIONER DOVE'S POINT WAS BEFORE WE START ASKING THE PUBLIC OFFICIALS TO CHANGE THE LAW, TALK TO THE PEOPLE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT MIGHT BE AFFECTED, UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THE BOARD OF ALMOND PUBLIC HEARING STEP. AND THERE ARE A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO THAT. UM, ONE MIGHT BE AFTER YOU'VE FINALIZED WHAT THE RULES AND REGS MIGHT LOOK LIKE, YOU CAN CONDUCT A HEARING, UM, AT A LOCATION THAT YOU THINK PEOPLE MIGHT BE READILY ABLE TO ACCESS TO SOLICIT THAT PUBLIC INPUT. YOU COULD DO THAT AS A SPECIAL MEETING IF YOU WANTED TO, OR YOU COULD USE, YOU KNOW, TECHNOLOGY, SOCIAL MEDIA, THOSE TYPES OF THINGS TO ELICIT RESPONSES OR SOME COMBINATION OF TWO. THE FIRST STEP WOULD BE GETTING THAT INFORMATION FROM HER, CORRECT. UH, I, I WOULD RECOMMEND GETTING THE INFORMATION BECAUSE A LOGICAL QUESTION, UM, THAT PEOPLE MIGHT HAVE IS, WELL, IF MANUFACTURED HOMES ARE ALLOWED, WHAT ARE THE RULES THAT GOVERNMENT? AND WITHOUT HAVING THAT SPECIFICITY, UM, YOU WON'T REALLY BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH THE PUBLIC MAYBE PERHAPS IN THE WAY THAT YOU'D LIKE TO. GOT IT. UH, ONE OF THE ITEMS UP HERE IS SAYS DISCUSSION DEVELOPMENT OF FACEBOOK PAGE. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU GUYS WANNA DISCUSS OR IS THAT NOT IVAN? YES. OKAY. UM, SO BASICALLY WHAT YOU WERE SAYING THAT WAS KIND OF THE DISCUSSION. UM, YOU KNOW, JUST TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP ON WHERE WE ARE BEING A COMMISSIONER OUTSIDE OF, YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY BEING SOME YEARS AGO, JUST TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP ON EVERYTHING. I AGREE THAT THERE IS, UM, A NEED TO HAVE EDUCATION, BUT I FEEL IT NEEDS TO BE IN A WAY THAT THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO ENGAGE AND UNDERSTAND IT. UM, AND GOING ON OUR, ON THE CITY OF BORN WEBSITE, EVEN WHEN I WAS SITTING AS AN ALDERMAN, IT'S JUST TOO MUCH. AND SO HAVING A SPECIFIC FACEBOOK PAGE FOR US TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, POP OUT AT A PROPERTY OR A PIECE OF LAND AND SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, THIS IS WHAT YOU CAN DO. SAME THING THAT VICTOR WAS SAYING ABOUT HAVING, YOU KNOW, SOME SCHEMATICS JUST LIKE MR. REGGIE OF THE POSSIBILITIES. UM, ONE OF THE BIGGEST THING IS WITH THE, WITH A REAL ESTATE BACKGROUND IS, IS I THINK IT WOULD BE CONDUCIVE TO COMMUNITY MEMBERS, UM, TO KNOW, LIKE THE FEASIBILITY PROCESS OR LIKE, YOU KNOW, IF WE, IF THE WAY THAT IT IS, IT LOOKS ON THE WEBSITE, TO ME IT, IT'S, IT'S NOT EASY TO NAVIGATE. AND I THINK FOR US TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHO HAS INCOME TO, YOU KNOW, WANT TO BE ABLE TO PURCHASE OR INVEST BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE THE INFORMATION OR IT'S NOT EASY FOR THEM TO ACCESS HAVING A FACEBOOK PAGE TO BE ABLE [01:15:01] TO, YOU KNOW, SEND LINKS TO WHEREVER THE DOCUMENTS ARE OR THE INFORMATION IS ON OUR MAIN PAGE. BUT IT'S A WAY TO COMMUNICATE. AND IT WAS MORE OF LIKE THINKING OF LIKE PODCAST TYPE OF THOUGHT PROCESS WHEN IT STARTED OF JUST POPPING UP, HEY, LET'S HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, BUT IT DOES NEED TO EVOLVE, EVOLVE INTO MORE. AND I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT. IT'S JUST KIND OF BEING ABLE TO GIVE THE INFORMATION TO THE COMMUNITY THE WAY THAT THEY'RE GONNA INGEST IT. AND SOCIAL MEDIA IS A BIG THING AND I THINK WE HAVE THE ABILITY WITH ALL OF THE BOARD MEMBERS AND PERSONALITIES THAT WE CAN BE CREATIVE. 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T JUST HAVE TO BE THE MARKETING TEAM. IT CAN BE ANYBODY. 'CAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO GET WITH DEPARTMENT HEADS AND SAY, HEY, WHEN IT COMES TO UTILITIES, THIS IS WHAT YOU NEED TO THINK ABOUT AND YOU'RE ON SITE FOR PEOPLE TO VISUALLY SEE WHAT WE ARE DOING. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE IT WENT. OBVIOUSLY IT WOULD HAVE TO BE A PROCESS. WE WERE THINKING THAT IF YOU ALL WERE AGREEING, THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE SIT DOWN WITH COLLEEN BECAUSE I WOULD BELIEVE SHE WOULD BE THE ONE TO NAVIGATE THAT FOR US. AND THEN WE CAN COME BACK WITH FURTHER INFORMATION, SAY, HEY, THIS IS, THIS IS THE WAY COLLEEN THINKS IT WOULD BEST SUIT US TO OPERATE THIS SO THAT WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION BEFORE WE ULTIMATELY MAKE A DECISION. MM-HMM . OKAY. QUESTION? YES. OH, GO AHEAD STEVE. SO YOU WOULD ENVISION THE CITY RUNNING THIS PAGE, NOT THE COMMISSIONER MEMBERS. I WOULD LOVE FOR THE COMMISSION TO RUN IT, BUT I KNOW THAT WHEN IT, WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE, WHO, WHOEVER HAS TO NAVIGATE IT, THAT'S WHO NEEDS TO, BUT WE NEED TO HAVE VISIBILITY AND IT NEEDS TO BE, I DON'T WANT TO GIVE ANY EXTRA WORK, BUT IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT I KNOW OR CAN SEND OR POST OR WHATEVER, OBVIOUSLY YOU CAN GO THROUGH A CHAIN OF COMMAND. EITHER WAY, THE THOUGHT PROCESS IS WE NEED TO HAVE OUR OWN FACEBOOK PAGE FOR OUR INFORMATION, FOR THINGS TO BE READILY AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY, FOR US TO SHARE AND, AND SEE VISUALLY THAN JUST THIS MEETING THAT WE HAVE. 'CAUSE IT'S, YOU GOTTA SCROLL THROUGH OUR FACEBOOK PAGE FOR THE CITY TO FIND WHAT'S GOING ON AND YOU CAN JUST SAY, HEY, HERE GOES THE REDEVELOPMENT PAGE. I WOULD BE WILLING TO ASSIST TO GET THAT UP FOR YOU ALL. SEE, THAT'S WHY THANK YOU. APPRECIATE YOU. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES. I WAS JUST GONNA ASK, UH, COMMISSIONER HARRIS, COULD WE, UM, POSSIBLY, UH, UH, EXPLORE ADDING A LISTSERV WITH THAT AS WELL? UM, I'M ON THE LISTSERV FOR TYSON RELATIVE, AND I MEAN, I ALMOST BEEN SOLD MILES TWICE. LOOKING AT THOSE PICTURES, THEY FEED IT TO YOU TWICE, ONCE A WEEK, TWICE A WEEK. YOU CAN SUBSCRIBE. SAY THAT AGAIN. LISTERV LIKE EMAIL LISTSERV. OH, LIKE HAVE IT SUBSCRIBED? MM-HMM . OH, I, YES. I I THINK I, I DON'T KNOW. I'VE SEEN OUR LANDING PAGE, BUT I DO AGREE THAT, THAT THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING AS WELL THAT THEY CAN SUBSCRIBE AND, AND GET THE INFORMATION HOWEVER WE CAN DO IT. I WANT TO BE A PART OF THAT TEAM TO DO AND GET THAT INFORMATION OUT AND JUST BE MORE CREATIVE ON HOW WE DO IT SO THAT WE CAN ENGAGE THE COMMUNITY MORE. 'CAUSE IT DON'T MATTER WHO COMES UP HERE TO DEVELOP, IF THE COMMUNITY AIN'T WITH IT, YOU WILL HAVE PUSHBACK AND THEN THAT'S GOING TO SCARE DEVELOPERS AWAY AND SAY, HEY, I DON'T WANNA DEAL WITH THE HEADACHE. SO IF WE HAVE THEM ON OUR TEAM, THEY'RE GONNA ADVOCATE FOR US EVEN MORE THAN WE'RE ADVOCATING FOR THEM BECAUSE THEY KNOW AND TRULY UNDERSTAND HOW TO REDEVELOP THEIR COMMUNITY THE WAY THAT THEY NEED TO. OKAY. OUR COMMUNITY THE WAY WE NEED TO. OKAY. I AGREE. SO I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I'M HEARING THE DIRECTION APPROPRIATELY IS THE DIRECTION TO, UM, GET WITH THE CITY'S PUBLIC INFORMATION OFFICER TO VET AND PUT A PLAN TOGETHER FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO LAUNCH A SOCIAL MEDIA PAGE ON FACEBOOK FOR THE REDEVELOPMENT COMMISSION. YES. AND DEJA, I'M ASSUMING, SO WE, WE CAN SET UP A MEETING WHENEVER IT IS, UM, CONDUCIVE TO EVERYBODY. MORNING IS GOOD FOR ME BETWEEN EIGHT AND 1130, UM, TO TALK ABOUT IT AND GET IT SO THAT HOPEFULLY WE CAN HAVE IT TO PRESENT AT THE NEXT MEETING. 'CAUSE I THINK WE NEED TO START GETTING IT OUT THERE ASAP. SOUNDS GOOD. ANY QUESTIONS MR. MARVIN? OKAY. NEXT UP IS HOUSING, WHICH IS MYSELF. UH, DISCUSS THE AVENUES PROJECT. WELL, MR. REGGIE CAME IN THIS AFTERNOON. ABSOLUTELY. UH, AND SPOKE IN REGARDS TO HIS PRESENTATION. AS I MENTIONED, THAT'S BEEN AN ONGOING CONVERSATION FOR SOME TIME. UH, WHEN, UH, CHAIRMAN PARHAM WAS HERE. UH, MYSELF AND MARVIN HAVE MET WITH HIM SEVERAL TIMES IN REGARDS TO, UH, POTENTIALLY A PARTNERSHIP. UH, SO FOR THEM TO COME IN HERE, FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO COME TODAY AND PRESENT SOMETHING TO US, UH, I FEEL LIKE WAS DEFINITELY A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. UM, THERE ARE SOME OTHER CONVERSATIONS AS, UH, THAT ARE BEING HAD IN REGARDS TO MANUFACTURE HOMES. UH, THANK YOU MARVIN FOR HAVING JESSICA TO COME AND PRESENT TO US TO GIVE US SOME FURTHER INFORMATION. UH, IF YOU GUYS WOULD LIKE TO SCHEDULE SOMETHING, UH, TO GO OUT TO JAMES CITY TO VISIT WITH MR. JOHN FORD. AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UH, HE IS VERY OPEN TO THAT AND I THINK THAT WOULD GIVE EVERYONE SOME, UH, INSIGHT AND A VISUAL OF WHAT MANUFACTURE HOMES LOOK LIKE. UM, AND SO, UM, I THINK THAT WOULD CONCLUDE MY REPORT IN [01:20:01] REGARDS TO HOUSING. ANY QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? YES, MA'AM. NO. OKAY. THE, UM, CHAIR, THE, THE, UH, PROPERTY WHERE, UH, THE, UM, UH, MANUFACTURED AND MODULAR HOMES ARE LOCATED IS OUT GOING TOWARDS, UH, RIVER BEND ACTUALLY IS IS THE AREA OUT THERE. AND, UM, I, I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE THE THE NAME OF IT, BUT RIGHT BEFORE YOU HIT THE RIVER BEND, IT'S WHERE? RIVER BEND. HMM. GOING OUT TOWARDS JACKSONVILLE. UH, SO I WONDER WHY I GOT JAMES CITY IN MY MIND, I THOUGHT HE TOLD ME JAMES CITY ON MY LEFT HAND SIDE, SO I'M WRONG. OKAY, GOT IT. SO IF, EXCUSE ME FOR THAT, UH, THAT, THAT MISINFORMATION, UH, NEVERTHELESS, UH, HE'S AVAILABLE. AND HIS NAME IS MR. JOHN FORD, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND THE INFORMATION TO INCLUDE HIS PRESENTATION WAS SENT IN AN EMAIL. IF ANYONE ELSE NEEDS THAT EMAIL AGAIN, I'LL BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SEND IT OUT. AGAIN, VERY THOROUGH INFORMATION THAT TELLS YOU THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MANUFACTURER MODULE HOMES, IT GIVES YOU STATUTES, GIVES YOU JUST A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT YOU CAN BREAK DOWN, UH, AND HAVE IN REGARDS TO THAT. OKAY. MA, IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON HOUSING? UH, COMMISSIONER STEWART? UM, THE HOMEOWNER AT SEVEN 21ST AVENUE, THAT IS GONNA BE A, THE CLOSED SESSION CONVERSATION. OKAY. NEIGHBORHOOD COMMISSIONER MORGAN . THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, WORK GROUP DOES NOT HAVE A REPORT TO OFFER THIS EVENING. HOWEVER, WE WILL BE PRESENTING A COMPREHENSIVE REPORT ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK RESPECTFULLY, WITH ALL OF THE ADDITIONS AND RESIGNATIONS AND REAPPOINTMENTS, WHO DO WE HAVE THAT IS CURRENTLY LISTED ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD WORK GROUP? I BELIEVE IT'S JUST YOU, SIR. I'M WITH OKAY. I'M, SEE. I'M THE GRANDFATHER IN REPORT. OKAY, GREAT. SO, UH, WE WILL BE MEETING AND WE WILL, UH, GIVE A COMPREHENSIVE RE REPORT ON SEPTEMBER 9TH AT OUR NEXT MEETING, AND WE WILL HAVE PLENTY TO SHARE. UH, CHAIR, UH, MR. UH, MORGAN. WILL, WILL THEY HAVE THE PICTURES AT THE WATERMARK, LIKE THE LAST ONE THAT YOU DID A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO? ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. . QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THAT, UH, COMMISSIONER MORGAN. UH, IS, HAS THERE BEEN ANY REQUESTS IN REGARDS TO THE PROPERTIES THAT WE OWN CURRENTLY? UH, PARTICULARLY ON THE AVENUES TO LOOK AT THE DEBRIS AND OVERGROWN DEBRIS, UH, IN REGARDS TO THAT? OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN LOOK INTO? I HAVE ALREADY LOOKED INTO THAT AND THE ACTUAL ORDINANCE THAT'S ON THE BOOK TO BREAK IT DOWN INTO LAYMAN'S TERMS, IF WE HAVEN'T BEEN CUTTING IT, THEN WE DON'T HAVE TO CUT IT. WOW. BECAUSE THERE IS NO, UH, ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH GROWTH AND WHEN IT GETS TO BE A CERTAIN SIZE OR CERTAIN FOLIAGE THAT IT HAS TO BE CUT. ALTHOUGH, UH, A LOT OF THE PROPERTIES HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, WE DO HAVE PICTURES. WE WILL BE MEETING WITH THE DEPARTMENT HEADS AND WE WILL BE GETTING THEIR OPINIONS ON WHAT IS OVERGROWN, WHAT IS CONSIDERED TO BE OVERGROWN, AND WHAT IS NATURAL FOLIAGE, AND ALSO WHAT IS CONSIDERED GREEN SPACE THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO, THAT HAS AN EVEN, UH, LESS, THAT, UH, WILL GAIN LESS ATTENTION. UH, JAMIE, IS THERE ANY WAY TO GIVE DIRECTION IN REGARDS TO, TO THAT, PARTICULARLY IF THERE ARE LOTS THAT WE RECOGNIZE THAT ARE OVERGROWN? UH, IF, IF YOU HAVE LOTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE CUT BACK IN SOME DEGREE, UM, IF A MAJORITY OF YOU ALL WANT TO, EVEN IF IT'S NOT REQUIRED BY ORDINANCE, IF YOU ALL WANT TO DO SOME LANDSCAPING, A MAJORITY OF YOU ALL CAN VOTE TO DO THAT. OKAY, THANK YOU. NEXT [12. Staff Report] UP STAFF REPORT. ACTUALLY WE, UH, ONLY THING WE HAVE ON THE, UNDER THE STAFF REPORT IS A FINANCIAL REPORT. UM, THE LA LATEST ONE WAS, UH, JULY THE 31ST, UH, OF THIS YEAR. AND IT WAS, THE BALANCE AT THAT TIME WAS $849,000, 900 AND 905 AND 62 CENTS. UH, THAT'S NOT QUITE CORRECT BECAUSE WE STILL, UH, THIS DOES NOT INCLUDE THE $6,485 AND 50 CENTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE, WHEN WE REPURCHASE, UM, 8 21 WEST STREET AS WELL AS, UH, 1030 $5 AND 30 CENTS, WHICH WAS THE COST FOR, UM, JULY'S, UH, RDC, UM, PROPERTY MOWINGS THAT, THAT THE CITY DOES FOR THEM. SO THE AMOUNT IS MORE IN LINE WITH, UH, $842,384 AND 82 CENTS. AND YOU [01:25:01] ALL, UH, SHOULD HAVE A COPY OF THE, UH, LATEST REPORT IN YOUR, IN YOUR, UH, PACKAGE THAT YOU RECEIVED. IS THERE A LINE ITEM FOR, UM, I DON'T KNOW, LACK OF BETTER WORD, ENTERTAINMENT OR FOOD FOR, UH, WHAT COMMISSIONER HARRISON, DOUG WAS REFERRING TO? WAS THERE ANYTHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO DO WHEN THAT DOES COME TO, TO, UH, FRUITION? WE, WE HAVE AN ITEM ON THERE FOR FOOD AND PROVISIONS, BUT THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT. BUT YOU ALSO HAVE A COUPLE OF ITEMS LIKE OTHER SUPPLIES AND, AND, UH, MATERIALS THAT COULD BE UTILIZED OR TRANSFERRED FROM. 'CAUSE YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE THAT AS WELL AS, UH, OTHER PROFESSIONAL SERVICES THAT, THAT HAS FUNDS IN IT THAT ARE ABLE TO BE TRANSFERRED IN THE EVENT THAT WE HAD AN EVENT THAT NEEDED FUNDS FOR. OKAY. YES. YES. SO WOULD THAT BE A BUDGET AMENDMENT GOING IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN? SOUNDS LIKE IT'S OTHER MATERIAL SO THEY CAN BE POINTED IN THAT DIRECTION WITHOUT HAVING TO DO THAT. ONLY IF WE'RE ASKING FOR MORE MONEY FOR THEM. I WOULD THINK THAT'S CORRECT. RIGHT? NO, IT WASN'T BEFORE. YEAH. SO WE SHOULD BE FINE ON THAT WHEN THAT COMES UP WOULD BE, HEY, DON'T HOLD ME TO IT. OKAY. . UM, SO WHAT WAS GOING ON IN, IN REGARDS TO THE, UM, BUDGET WITH, UM, 'CAUSE I, I DON'T KNOW THE RULE, BUT SAY WE ARE, CAN, CAN SOMEONE DONATE THAT SERVICE TO US? YES. OKAY. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S BIG. SO, YOU KNOW, WE CAN GET A SPONSOR. I WANT TO KNOW THAT'S LESS MONEY WE GOTTA SPEND, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT IN CONFLICT WITH ANYTHING. OKAY. IS THAT IT FOR YOU ON STAFF REPORT? MARVIN? THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY REPORT. OKAY. [13. Next Meeting: September 9, 2026] SOUNDS LIKE OUR NEXT MEETING WILL BE SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2025. UH, IS THIS QUESTION PROPOSED BY ME? I'M SORRY, . THANK YOU SO MUCH. MORGAN 2026, UH, [14. Closed Session] 14. CLOSED SESSION. UH, IS THAT A QUESTION? NORTH CAROLINA GENERAL STATUTE 1 43 3 18 11 85 WE NEED A CLOSED SESSION TO DISCUSS THE ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY. MR. CHAIR, YOU CAN ENTERTAIN A MOTION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THE OPPORTUNITY TO ACQUIRE REAL PROPERTY? SO MOVED. SECOND. WE HAVE A WE HAVE A SECOND. IS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? WE THAT CLOSED SESSION, WE WILL ENTER INTO A CLOSED SESSION HERE TONIGHT. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO ADJOURN THE MEETING? SO MOVED. SECOND. SECOND. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. IS THERE ANY OPPOSED? ALL IN FAVOR. A AYE A MEETING ADJOURNED. AYE UM, MR. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. 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