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GOOD EVENING EVERYONE, AND WELCOME TO THE

[1. Meeting opened by Mayor Jeffrey T. Odham. Prayer by Alderman Ferguson. Pledge of Allegiance.]

SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026 NEWBURN BOARD OF ALDERMAN MEETING.

THE PRAYER TONIGHT WILL BE GIVEN BY ALDERMAN BRYANT, WOULD YOU BOW YOUR HEAD WITH ME, PLEASE? HEAVENLY FATHER, WE COME BEFORE YOU TODAY WITH HUMBLE AND GRATEFUL HEARTS THANKING YOU FOR THE CITY OF NEWBURN.

LORD, YOU HAVE BLESSED THE CITY WITH RICH HISTORY, STRONG PEOPLE, AND BRIGHT FUTURE TODAY.

WE ESPECIALLY THANK YOU FOR THE 25 MILLION GRAND AWARDED TO THE NEW BERN HOUSING AUTHORITY.

WE PRAY THAT THIS TREMENDOUS INVESTMENT WILL BECOME A BLESSING THAT REACH FAMILIES, STRENGTH AND NEIGHBORHOODS, CREATE OPPORTUNITIES AND BRING HOPE TO THOSE WHO NEED IT THE MOST.

FATHERS NEWBURN CONTINUE TO GROW.

GIVE US THE WISDOM TO GROW TOGETHER, NOT APART.

HELP US REMEMBER THAT BEHIND EVERY DECISION WE MAKE ARE PEOPLE, FAMILY, CHILDREN, SENIORS, AND NEIGHBOR WHO LIVE LIVES CAN BE CHANGED BY THE WORK WE DO.

IN THIS ROOM, GIVE OUR MAYOR THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN CITY, STAFF HOUSING AUTHORITY AND COMMUNITY PARTNER, WISDOM, COURAGE, AND SPIRITS OF CORPORATION.

HELP US TO PUT SERVICE BEFORE SELF PROGRESS, BEFORE DIVISION, AND THE NEEDS OF OUR CITIZENS AS THE HEART OF EVERY DECISION.

LORD, LET NEW BERN BE A CITY WHERE OPPORTUNITIES NOT LIMIT, WHERE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE STRENGTHENED, WHERE FAMILIES CAN STRIVE.

AND HERE WHERE EVERY CITIZEN CAN SAY, THIS IS A PLACE FOR ME.

IN THE FUTURE OF NEWBURN.

CONTINUE TO GIVE, GUIDE US, PROTECT OUR CITY, AND BLESS THE WORK OF OUR HANDS.

WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU HAVE DONE.

WE THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE DOING, AND WE TRUST YOU FOR WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT TO DO.

IN THE MIGHTY NAME OF JESUS AS WE PRAY.

AMEN.

AMEN.

IF YOU'RE ABLE TO STAND, PLEASE DO SO.

TO THE ALLEGIANCE, TO THE FLAG OF THE COUNTRY, I PLEDGE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVIDUAL WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.

MADAM CLERK, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

HERE.

ALDERMAN BRYANT.

HERE.

ALDERMAN ASER.

HERE.

MAYOR ODOM.

HERE.

ALDERMAN WHITE.

HERE.

ALDERMAN.

BEST PRESENT.

ALDERMAN .

HERE.

BOARD.

ARE THERE ANY CHANGES

[3. Approve Agenda.]

OR ADDITIONS YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE TO THE AGENDA? IF NOT, I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO APPROVE THE AGENDA.

MAKE A MOTION.

WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS IS SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? AGENDA IS APPROVED.

NEXT IS REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS FOR AGENDA TOPICS.

MADAM CLERK, WE DON'T HAVE ANY.

OKAY.

NEXT UP IS THE CONSENT AGENDA.

[Consent Agenda]

WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ON ITEMS FIVE THROUGH 16? MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA.

SECOND, A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRYANT.

YES.

ALDERMAN ASTOR.

YES.

DERMAN WHITE.

YES.

DERMAN VEST? YES.

ERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

MAYOR ADAM? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 17.

CONDUCT A

[17. Conduct a Public Hearing and Consider Adopting an Ordinance to Rezone 922 Pollock Street from C5- A Commercial to C-4 Commercial.]

PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE 9 2 2 P*****K STREET FROM C FIVE A COMMERCIAL TO C FOUR COMMERCIAL MS. RU.

UM, AS WAS JUST INTRODUCED, THIS IS A REZONING REQUEST FOR, WELL, I, THESE ARE NOT THE RIGHT SLIDES.

WELL, THE ONE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW IS FOR THE CITY OF NEW BERN, REQUESTED REZONING AT 9 22 P*****K STREET.

THIS REZONING IS A REQUEST TO GO FROM C FIVE A TO C FOUR.

THE PROPERTY IS SURROUNDED COMPLETELY BY C FOUR ON THAT SIDE OF THE STREET.

IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED C FIVE A, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A DESIGNATION FOR PROPERTIES IN A HISTORIC DISTRICT.

INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH, IN THIS AREA, THE HISTORIC DISTRICT ACTUALLY STOPS AT FRESHWATER BEER AND NON HISTORIC DISTRICT AREA PICKS UP, UH, RIGHT TO THE LEFT OF THAT WITH THE CITY OWNED PARKING LOT.

AND SO THIS REQUEST IS BEING REQUESTED IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY.

THIS SMALL PARCEL, IT IS ABOUT 0.2 ACRES, IF I RECALL CORRECTLY FROM MEMORY, UH, IS A PIECE OF THE OVERARCHING PLAN FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE CNI PROJECT.

AND IT'S JUST HAPPENSTANCE THAT THIS IS COMING BEFORE US THIS EVENING.

SO THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID UNANIMOUSLY IN JULY RECOMMEND THE ADOPTION OF THIS REZONING.

WE CAN EITHER PAUSE AND WAIT FOR THE ILLUSTRATIONS TO CATCH UP WITH US, OR I'M PREPARED TO ANSWER QUESTIONS BEFORE OR AFTER THE PUBLIC HEARING.

THANK YOU.

COLLEEN, DO WE HAVE THE SLIDES? I'M TRYING TO DOWNLOAD IT NOW.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

SO IN THE MEANTIME, DOES THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UM,

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MS. RU, IS THIS THE LITTLE SECTION OVER ON THE SIDE WHERE HABITAT HUMANITIES LOCATED? YES, MA'AM.

IT IS WHERE THEIR STORAGE BUILDING IS ON THE SMALL PARCEL THAT ABUTS OUR PARKING LOT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? ALRIGHT.

I'M GOING TO ASSUME THAT IF ANYONE IS HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS TONIGHT, THEY PROBABLY ALREADY KNOW ABOUT THIS AND THEY DON'T NEED TO NECESSARILY SEE THE SLIDES.

SO WHILE WE WAIT FOR COLLEEN TO DO THAT, I WILL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 17.

AGAIN, THIS IS 9 2 2 P*****K STREET.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO WAIT TO SEE THE SLIDES BEFORE YOU SPEAK? ? OKAY.

FOR MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? ON ITEM NUMBER 17, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE 9 22 P*****K STREET FROM C FIVE, A COMMERCIAL TO C FOUR COMMERCIAL AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN BRYANT.

ALDERMAN BRYANT? YES.

ALDERMAN STER.

YES.

ALDERMAN WHITE? YES.

ALDERMAN BEST? YES.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

MAYOR ODOM.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT UP IS ITEM NUMBER 18.

CONDUCT

[18. Conduct a Public Hearing and Consider Adopting an Ordinance to Rezone Tax Parcel IDs 9-206- 001, 8-206- 3001 , and 8-206-3002 on Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard from R- 15 Residential and C-3 Commercial to All C-3 Commercial.]

A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE TAX PARCEL IDS 8 2 0 6 0 1 8 2 0 6 3001 AND 8 2 0 6 3002 ON MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR.

BOULEVARD FROM R 15 RESIDENTIAL AND C3 COMMERCIAL TO ALL C3 COMMERCIAL.

MS. RUTH? YES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THIS IS, UH, A PART OF OUR EFFORTS TO ELIMINATE SPLIT ZONING THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF NEW BERN.

AS WE HAVE, UH, DESCRIBED AND BROUGHT FORTH OTHER CASES PREVIOUSLY, UH, WE HAVE CERTAIN PARCELS THAT, OR GROUPS OF PARCELS THAT ARE SPLIT DOWN THE MIDDLE, EITHER FROM THINGS CHANGING OVER TIME OR JUST DIFFERENT MAPPING PRACTICES THAN WE HAVE TODAY.

AND IT IS OUR ALWAYS OUR GOAL TO GET INDEPENDENT PARCELS TO HAVE ONE ZONING DISTRICT ON THEM.

AND THAT IS WHAT WE'RE GOING TO PRESENT THIS EVENING.

THIS PARTICULAR CASE, ALL THREE PARCELS ARE 7.98 ACRES TOGETHER.

THE, THE AREA OF THAT PROPOSED TO BE CHANGE IS 4.94 ACRES.

AND I'M GONNA SHOW SEVERAL DIFFERENT MAPS TO MAKE THIS CLEARER.

AND AGAIN, WE ARE TRYING TO ELIMINATE THAT SPLIT ZONING, BUT ALSO ADD SOME CONTINUITY.

IN THIS INSTANCE.

I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION BEFORE WE MOVE INTO THE, UH, OTHER ZONING FACTS OF THIS.

THIS IS AN AREA THAT BACKS UP TO, UH, 17 BUSINESS.

AT ONE POINT IN TIME, THERE WAS A CONNECTION BETWEEN WHERE THE HAYWOOD FARM SUBDIVISION ENDS AND THE HIGHWAY.

SINCE THAT ROAD HAS CLOSED, IT HAS BEEN QUICK CLAIMED AND THAT AREA IS IN PRIVATE OWNERSHIP.

AND I'M ANNOUNCING THAT BEFORE WE GET STARTED BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A NUMBER OF CONCERNED CITIZENS COME AND TELL US ABOUT THE SITUATION AT PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.

SO, UH, THE WORRIES THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO OPEN A ROAD, UM, THAT IS NOT A POSSIBILITY.

THE CITY DOES NOT MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THIS PROPERTY RIGHT NOW.

IT IS PRIVATELY OWNED BY THE WILLIAM WARD TRUST.

SO, UM, I JUST WANTED TO PUT THAT OUT THERE AND, AND CLARIFY THAT WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT OPENING A ROAD.

IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT, UH, TO DO THAT SINCE WE DON'T MAINTAIN CONTROL OF THAT AREA.

YOU CAN SEE RIGHT HERE WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT MUCH MORE EASILY THAN WHAT I WAS DESCRIBING IT BEFORE.

THAT PARCEL IN THE MIDDLE IS AN INDEPENDENT PARCEL.

IT'S FLANKED BY TWO LARGER PARCELS.

UH, BEN QUINN ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IS, WOULD BE RIGHT ON THE LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN IF YOU WERE LOOKING AT IT IN PERSON.

AND AGAIN, WE ALWAYS SHOW YOU THE PROPERTY OWNERS THAT RECEIVE NOTIFICATION OF THE PUBLIC HEARING ARE.

OUR 15 ZONING DISTRICT IS A MEDIUM DENSITY OR LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT.

AND OF COURSE, WE ARE ALL FAMILIAR WITH C3 BEING OUR, OUR HEAVIER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL DISTRICT THAT WE COMMONLY SEE DOWN MLK BOULEVARD.

AND IN THIS AREA IS NO DIFFERENT AS YOU WOULD IMAGINE.

RESIDENTIAL 15 PRIMARILY, UH, IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE LOW INCOME OR LOW DENSITY HOUSING.

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AND COMMERCIAL, AGAIN, FACILITATES OUR HEAVIER TRAFFIC, UH, MORE COMMERCIAL USES.

THIS IS THE MAP THAT WE TYPICALLY WOULD SHOW YOU FOR REZONING.

THE HATCHED AREAS ARE ALWAYS THE PARCELS IN QUESTION THAT IS NO DIFFERENT ON THIS MAP.

HOWEVER, WE FOR FOR CLARITY TRY TO MAKE THIS EASIER TO UNDERSTAND.

SO I'M GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH WHAT'S GOING ON RIGHT HERE.

WHAT IS LABELED A AND B IS THE FIRST PARCEL, WHAT IS LABELED C AS THE SECOND PARCEL? AND WHAT IS LABELED D AND E IS THE THIRD PARCEL, THE PARCELS BEING REQUESTED TO BE CHANGED TO C3 OR THE, THE PORTIONS RATHER ARE B, C, AND D.

I'D BE HAPPY TO ADD ANY CLARITY ON THAT.

I'M GETTING NODS.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

UH, THIS IS KIND OF THE REMNANT OF THAT ROAD.

THIS IS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON SITE AS TAKEN WHEN THE NOTIFICATION WAS PLACED UP, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THIS PROPOSED CHANGE, UH, AND A VOTE OF SIX ONE AT THEIR JULY MEETING BASED ON CONSISTENCY WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.

AND THERE WAS A GREAT DEAL OF CONVERSATION ON THERE NOT BEING PLANNED TO REOPEN THAT ROAD.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS.

DOES FORD HAVE QUESTIONS? I I HAVE A QUESTION.

I DON'T MEAN TO GO DOWN ANY RABBIT HOLES, BUT YOU, YOU SAID THAT THE ROAD THAT THE CITY USED TO OWN IS NOW PRIVATELY OWNED AND THAT WAS ACQUIRED THROUGH A QUIT CLAIM PROCESS.

YES.

SCOTT, CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? UM, MAYOR, I DON'T KNOW PRECISELY.

UM, IF IT WAS A CITY STREET THAT WAS CLOSED AS A MATTER OF LAW, IT REVERSED TO THE ADJOINING OWNERS WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AMONG THEMSELVES WITH VARIOUS DEEDS.

I SIMPLY DON'T KNOW.

BUT IF THE CITY CLOSED IT, IT WENT TO THE, IT WENT TO THE ADJOINING OWNERS OUT TO THE MIDDLE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STUDENT? I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE, WITH THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE, WHAT WOULD BE THE VEGETATIVE BUFFERS ON THE REAR PART OF THE PROPERTY? SO THEY WOULD NEED A RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL BUFFER.

IN OUR LAND USE ORDINANCE, THERE IS A CHART AND THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS.

IT IS A MORE STRENUOUS BUFFER THAN IF IT REMAINED, UH, RESIDENTIAL OR RESIDENTIAL.

THE REASON, NOT, THE REASON I'M ASKING THE PARCEL ON YOUR MAP, LOOKING TO THE RIGHT, UM, IS HEAVILY WET ON THE ROAD, WHICH MEANS THAT ANY, UH, IMPROVEMENTS WOULD BE TOWARD THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY IF YOU COULD DO ANY THE WAY THAT, UH, THE CONTOUR OF THAT LAND IS.

BUT I DO SEE WHERE WITH THE COMMERCIAL YOU WOULD HAVE MORE VEGETATIVE BUFFERING THAN WITH RESIDENTIAL ARM OF FER.

DO YOU KNOW WHEN THE ROAD WAS CLOSED? I DO NOT.

IT'S BEEN, IT BE DECADES.

OKAY.

YEAH.

IT'S BEEN 30 YEARS AGO.

OKAY.

UH, I DON'T THINK IT WAS THAT RECENT.

UH, DO YOU REMEMBER? WELL, THIS GOES BACK, I CAN TELL YOU AT LEAST 18 YEARS BECAUSE, UH, I WAS NOT ON THE BOARD.

UM, AS THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET STARTED TO DEVELOP, THERE WAS CONCERN OF THE ACTIVITY OUT THERE.

AND THE BOARD AT THAT TIME, EVEN THOUGH THE BOARD AT THAT TIME ALSO WANTED AT LEAST TWO EGRESS INGRESS FOR EMERGENCY PURPOSES, CHOSE TO BECAUSE OF THE CONCERN.

AND, AND HAYWOOD FARMS WAS HAVING A LOT OF CUT THROUGH TRAFFIC MM-HMM .

AND, UM, SO THE BOARD AT THAT TIME DECIDED TO CLOSE THE ROAD.

AND I THINK, I DON'T REMEMBER THE DATE, BUT I THINK AT A, UM, AND THE LAST, I'D SAY PROBABLY THE LAST 10, 15 YEARS, THE BOARD, I THINK UNDEDICATED THAT, THAT RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH WOULD'VE MEANT IT WOULD'VE REVERTED TO THE ADJOINING OWNERS.

SO I THINK, I THINK THAT WAS DONE.

THERE WAS SOME THERE LEGAL, SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT, THAT THE ROAD TO ASSURE THE OWNERS THAT IT WOULD NOT BE REDEDICATED.

THAT IT, IT'S OBVIOUSLY SOMETHING'S, IT'S BEEN A DEDICATED, BUT IT WOULD SCHOOL TRAFFIC BECAUSE I BELIEVE IT WAS A, A DEDICATED PUBLIC EGRESS INGRESS AT ONE TIME.

YEAH.

I REMEMBER IT BEING CLOSED AND IT'S NOT NOW.

IT WAS CLOSED BACK IN THE BILL HARTMAN DAYS FOR SURE.

UM, I JUST DON'T REMEMBER LEGALLY WHEN, WHEN WE OFFICIALLY CLOSED IT, IT WAS BARRICADED.

IT WAS BARRICADED BACK IN YOUR DAYS.

THE CONCERN, UM, FOR EVER IS VANDER ROAD BEING, UH, OPENING BACK UP.

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OKAY.

I'M SORRY, I JUST HAD TO ASK WHAT YOU SAID REALLY CAUGHT ME OFF GUARD.

SO, SORRY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

AT THIS TIME WE WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING.

AGAIN, THIS IS ITEM NUMBER 18, IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR, AGAINST THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, UH, WHICH IS THE THREE TEXT PARCEL IDS LOCATED ON MLK.

PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

UM, HI, MY NAME'S JOHN BERTRAM.

I LIVE ON HAYWARD FARMS ROAD.

UM, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 31 YEARS AND IT'S BEEN ALMOST 30 YEARS SINCE THAT ROAD WAS CLOSED.

UM, IS, AND THE WORD THAT WE GOT AS RESIDENTS WAS THAT YOU ARE CONSIDERING REOPENING THAT BRIDGE AND I DEFINITELY NOT, DEFINITELY NOT.

SO, OH, PERFECT.

BECAUSE IT, IT WAS, UM, I KNOW AT THAT TIME WE HAD, UM, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WAS THERE, UM, JUST DOING SPEECH ACTS AND PEOPLE WERE FLYING DOWN THERE ALL THE TIME.

WE HAD, THERE WAS A LOT OF KIDS.

THERE'S STILL A LOT OF KIDS.

AND, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF GOOD REASONS CLOSING AT THAT TIME.

AND, UM, THERE'S STILL THE SAME REASONS.

SO THANK YOU.

SURE.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? MAYOR, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND MOTION.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? YES.

YES, MA'AM.

UH, ATTORNEY DAVIS.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, NOW DID MS. MS RU SAID THIS, WELL, THIS PARCEL, UM, IS PRIVATELY OWNED.

YES, MA'AM.

AND WHAT'S TO SAY THAT THESE, THE, THE PEOPLE THAT OWN THIS PROPERTY AT SOME POINT IN TIME MIGHT WANT TO COME BACK OPEN THAT ROAD? THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE, THE, UH, SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

THE WHAT? THE SUBDIVISION PROCESS.

OKAY.

SO THEY'D HAVE TO GO TO THE PLANNING BOARD, SATISFY ALL OF THE, UH, LAND USE ORDINANCES AND CONVINCE DOT TO GIVE THEM A NEW DRIVEWAY CUT.

SO THAT'S A VERY HEAVY LIFT, BUT IT CAN BE DONE, IT COULD BE DONE LEGALLY.

OKAY.

MM-HMM.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CLOSING PUBLIC HEARING, PLEASE SAY, AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ON ITEM NUMBER 18? MAYOR, TYPICALLY THIS BEING IN MY WARD, IT WOULD, I WOULD MAKE A MOTION IF I WAS IN FAVOR OF THIS TO ALL INVEST QUESTION SOMEWHAT.

IT'S IN FAVOR OF THE HAYWARD FARMS OWNERS TO KEEP THE PROPERTY FRAGMENTED WITH VARIOUS ZONINGS.

UH, THAT IN EFFECT HOLISTICALLY, IF YOU COMBINE ALL THREE PARCELS, UM, SOMEBODY PUT A ROAD IN STRAIGHT WITH HAYWOOD FARMS ROAD AND LEAVE ONE FOOT OFF OR SOMETHING, OR, YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU COULD DO THAT OR NOT, BUT I'M GIVEN A HYPOTHETICAL.

UM, I DON'T HAVE ANY MOTIVATION TO WANT TO MAKE A MOTION ON THIS.

UM, I THINK I, I, MY CONCERN IS THE BACK PORTION OF ONE OF THE PARCELS WOULD BE THE PART IMPROVED, WHICH WOULD BE RIGHT UP ON HAYWOOD FARMS. THE FRONT PORT PORTION, UM, IS WITHIN THE HAYWOOD FARMS, UH, BUFFER BASIN AREA THAT PRETTY MUCH, UM, DRAINS THAT WHOLE AREA BACK THERE.

SO IT'S A VERY DYNAMIC PIECE OF PROPERTY WITH LIMITED ABILITIES TO IMPROVE.

UM, SO REPRESENTING THE HAYWOOD FARMS COMMUNITY ALONG WITH EVERYBODY ELSE, UM, I, I APPRECIATE STAFFS WANTING TO GO AROUND AND CLEAN UP ALL THE ZONING IN NEWVILLE, BUT IT'S VERY, UM, UH, CONCERNING, UH, TO PROPERTY OWNERS WHEN THEY SEE BLUE SIGNS OF WHAT'S GOING ON.

SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT GONNA MAKE A MOTION TO DO ANYTHING ON THIS MYSELF.

WELL, I THINK THE, THE ISSUE HERE IS THAT YOU HAVE THESE PROPERTIES THAT ARE SPLIT ZONED, SUCH THAT THEY GIVE PROPERTY OWNERS UNCERTAINTY ON WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO WHEN YOU HAVE INDIVIDUAL PARTIAL SPLIT ZONE.

AND SO I THINK THIS IS A CONCERTED EFFORT BY OUR PLANNING STAFF TO BRING A LITTLE MORE CERTAINTY TO THOSE PROPERTIES, UH, WHICH WE'RE CONTINUING TO DO EVERY MEETING AS THEY GET TO IT.

SO WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE THE TAX PARCELS LISTED IN ITEM 18 FROM R 15 RESIDENTIAL AND C3 COMMERCIAL TO ALL C3 COMMERCIAL AS PRESENTED.

WE HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? WELL, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY TO ALDERMAN FERGUSON'S POINT, UM, I THINK THERE IS CERTAINTY.

THE PARCEL FURTHEST AWAY IS AN ABSOLUTE R 15, I BELIEVE THE PRIOR FORMER DEDICATED AREAS,

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I BELIEVE IS AN R 15.

A MAJORITY OF THE PORTION CLOSEST TO NEW BERN IS A COMMERCIAL ZONING.

SO THE MAJORITY AREA OF ANY PEACE PROPERTY IN CITY OF NEW BERN WOULD BE THE ZONING FOR ANY IMPROVEMENTS.

SO I THINK THERE IS CLARITY ON THAT, BUT AGAIN, I'M DONE.

THANK YOU.

ELDERMAN WHITE, UH, MS. RU IS THE CONVERSATION THAT WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT, VERY SIMILAR TO THE CONVERSATION THAT WAS HAD ORIGINALLY IN THE P AND Z? UH, NO, THEY WERE JUST VERY INTERESTED IN HEARING THE HISTORY OF THE ROAD.

IT WAS SHARED AT THAT MEETING THAT THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT WITH A CHILD ON THIS ROAD BEFORE IT GOT CLOSED.

CONVERSATIONS LIKE THAT.

AND I, I JUST WANTED EVERYONE HERE PRESENT AND PAYING ATTENTION THAT THIS WAS ABOUT CHANGING THE COLORS ON THE MAP.

NOW I'LL GO BACK TO OUR, OUR THREE PARCELS.

A AND B CREATE A SPLIT ZONING.

D AND E ALSO CREATE A SPLIT ZONING.

C IS NOT SPLIT ZONE.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW IS CORRECT.

THE REMNANT OF THE ROAD IS R 15.

NOW, IF THOSE PROPERTIES ARE MAINTAINED, UH, THE YELLOW PORTIONS AS RESIDENTIAL, UM, THEY WOULD EITHER NEED VERY COMPLICATED DOT CURB CUTS TO BE USED AS RESIDENTIAL, OR YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK IN, UH, THROUGH THE SUBDIVISION SOMEHOW, WHICH I'M NOT, AGAIN, DEVELOPMENT PLANS HAVE NOT BEEN SHARED OR ASKED FOR OR TALKED TO ON THIS.

THIS WAS SIMPLY A MAP CLEANUP IN THE ABSENCE OF THE ABILITY TO DO A HOLISTIC MAP UPDATE, UH, BASED ON LAW FIRM A FEW YEARS AGO.

SO JUST FOR SAKE OF CLARITY, IF, ARE THESE, ARE ALL THESE PARCELS OWNED BY THE SAME INDIVIDUAL? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

SO IF THEY DECIDED THAT THEY WANTED TO BUILD A COMMERCIAL STRUCTURE SINCE COMMERCIAL'S BEING REQUESTED AND THEY WANTED IT TO SIT PARALLEL TO THE HIGHWAY IN THE MIDDLE OF ALL THREE OF THOSE PARCELS, WHAT WOULD THE PROCESS BE FOR THEM TO MERGE ALL THREE OF THOSE TO BE ABLE TO BUILD? UH, THEY WOULD HAVE A NEW PLOT DRAWN UP, BRING IT TO OUR OFFICE FOR A SIGNATURE, AND THEN TAKE IT TO THE COUNTY, HAVE IT RECORDED, AND THEY WOULD BE GIVEN ONE NEW PIN NUMBER AND THE OTHER NUMBERS WOULD GO AWAY.

IT'S VERY SIMPLY STATED.

AND WHAT WOULD THE ZONING BE ON THAT? IT WOULD BE BOTH R 15 AND C3.

AND I THINK WE HAVE SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT DISCOURAGES CREATING A NEW LOT WITH SPLIT ZONING.

I MAY MOST ORDINANCES HAVE THAT POINT BY FINGER TO THAT.

HOWEVER, UH, MANY TIMES WE GET IT TYPICALLY COMES UP WITH STRIP MALLS.

PEOPLE WILL COME, WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT WHEN, UH, NEXT ACTUALLY.

AND THEY SAY, HEY, WHAT'S THIS ZONED? ARE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR A ZONING COMPLIANCE LETTER BECAUSE THEY'RE TRYING TO GET SOME FUNDING TO OPEN A BUSINESS.

AND WHEN THE ZONING OFFICER IS TRYING TO EXPLAIN TO THEM, WELL, IT'S PART OF IT IS ZONED THIS AND PART OF IT IS ZONED THAT, IT MAKES IT, UH, FAR MORE COMPLICATED TO, TO MOVE THEM ALONG WITH THEIR BUSINESS PLANS.

OKAY.

SO WE DO.

AND PART OF, UM, YOUR PRESENTATION, IF YOU HAD AN NC WET WETLANDS MAP OR MAP, YOU WOULD PROBABLY UNDERSTAND THAT PROPERTY A LITTLE BIT BETTER.

YEAH.

AND, AND TONIGHT WE ARE FOCUSED NOT ON DEVELOPMENT, BUT ON ON ZONING.

A REZONING HAS ZERO EFFECT ON ROAD CLOSURES OR ROAD READ DEDICATION, CORRECT? THAT'S RIGHT.

OR ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES AS WELL THAT COMES IN OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW.

AND HAYWOOD FARMS ROAD IS A CITY OWNED, MAINTAINED ROAD.

DO YOU KNOW? UH, I BELIEVE IT IS IF AT ONE POINT IN TIME THAT REMNANT WAS PART OF OUR SYSTEM.

SO EVEN IF A PROPERTY OWNER WANTED TO REOPEN THE ROAD THROUGH A REDEDICATION PROCESS, NOT ONLY WOULD THEY HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS TO GET A DOT STANDARDS, THEY WOULD THEN HAVE TO BRING IT TO US TO ACCEPT WHICH WE WOULD'VE A CHOICE WHETHER OR NOT TO ACCEPT AS A PUBLIC ROAD.

RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT.

OKAY.

THE OTHER THING INTERESTING ABOUT THIS PROPERTY IS THE DEPTH OF WHAT THE COMMERCIAL ZONING'S GONNA BE.

IT'S ATYPICAL OF WHAT THE LINE IS ALONG THE CORRIDOR THERE.

BUT AGAIN, OKAY.

WE HAVE A MOTION AND SECOND TO APPROVE THE REZONING.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN ASTOR.

ALDERMAN ASTOR.

YES.

ALDERMAN WHITE.

YES.

ALDERMAN BEST? NO.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRYANT? YES.

MAYOR ODOM.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT IS

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ITEM NUMBER 19.

[19. Conduct a Public Hearing and Consider Adopting an Ordinance to Rezone 1822 S. Glenburnie Road from R-6 Residential and C-4 Commercial to Only C-4 Commercial.]

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO REZONE 1822 SOUTH GLEN BURNIE ROAD FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL AND C FOUR COMMERCIAL TO ONLY C FOUR COMMERCIAL MS. RU.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

I'LL WAIT FOR THE SLIDES TO CATCH UP WITH ME.

THANK YOU.

ALL RIGHT.

THIS IS ALSO A REQUEST TO ELIMINATE A SPLIT ZONE PROPERTY.

THIS ONE ONLY INCLUDES ONE PARCEL.

THIS IS ON AN AREA OF GLEN BURNIE ROAD THAT ACTUALLY HAS QUITE A BIT OF SPLIT ZONE PROPERTIES.

IN THIS INSTANCE, THE TOTAL PARCEL IS 2.79 ACRES.

THE ZONING CHANGE THAT'S BEING REQUESTED TO ELIMINATE THE SPLIT ZONING IS 0.19 ACRES.

CURRENTLY, WE, AGAIN HAVE A COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL SPLIT.

THE REQUEST IS TO MAKE IT TO COMMERCIAL.

UM, THERE ARE NO DEVELOPMENT OR REDEVELOPMENT PLANS OUT IN FRONT OF THIS.

IT IS AN EXISTING STRIP MALL.

THERE'S NOT MUCH MORE ROOM TO DO MUCH ELSE WITH THAT.

AND I THINK, UH, WE'LL CLARIFY THAT WITH SOME IMAGES HERE.

UH, THIS IS, UH, THE PARCEL.

IT GOES DEEPER THAN YOU MIGHT SUSPECT.

THERE'S SOME SELF STORAGE IN THE REAR OF THAT PARCEL.

THE, UH, SHOPPING CENTER WITH THE FORMER MARIOS IN IT IS, IS THE EXACT PARCEL THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING.

TO USE A LOCAL REFERENCE HERE IS OUR NOTIFICATION MAP.

OUR R SIX DISTRICT IS PRIMARILY, UH, PRETTY DENSE RESIDENTIAL AND DUPLEXES.

AND C FOUR IS OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BUSINESS DISTRICT.

AGAIN, OUR C FOUR, WE'RE PRETTY FAMILIAR WITH THIS.

WE TALK ABOUT IT ALMOST EVERY MEETING.

LOWER INTENSITY COMMERCIAL USES.

NR SIX IS ONE OF OUR RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS.

HERE IS THE HATCHED PROPERTY.

ACROSS THE STREET IS THE POST OFFICE FOR REFERENCE.

ALL OF THAT SWATH IS, UH, ZONED C3, WHICH IS A HIGHER INTENSITY DISTRICT.

AND THEN YOU CAN SEE DOWN HERE A COUPLE OF OTHER PARCELS THAT HAVE BOTH C3 AND C FOUR ON THEM.

UM, AND THOSE ARE ON OUR LIST TO BRING FORWARD.

SO THE HATCHED AREA IS OUR SUBJECT PROPERTY.

AND AGAIN, WE HAVE GONE AHEAD.

THIS IS THE PORTION THAT IS CALLED B IS WHAT WE'RE REQUESTING FOR.

THAT'S THE 0.19 ACRES.

IT IS A PART OF THE OVERARCHING, UH, PARCEL THERE.

UM, THAT MAKES UP ALMOST THE THREE ACRES RIGHT THERE OR THE 2.79 ACRES.

UH, THIS IS THE SHOPPING CENTER.

UH, IT IS ALREADY DEVELOPED.

THERE IS REALLY NO WAY TO PHYSICALLY ADD MORE DEVELOPMENT ONTO THIS.

THERE ARE NO PLANS FOR CHANGES HERE.

AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD DID UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THIS BASED ON CONSISTENCY WITH OUR LAND USE PLANNING DOCUMENTS AND SIMILARLY ZONED PROPERTIES AS WELL AS THE ELIMINATION OF THE SPLIT ZONING.

HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? UM, THE ONLY I DON'T HAVE QUESTION.

I DON'T SAY THIS IS, THIS IS TOTALLY A, AN IMPROVED PIECE PROPERTY.

THE OTHER PIECE WAS UNAPPROVED.

UM, I DON'T SEE A PROBLEM WITH, YOU KNOW, REZONING THAT ENTIRE PORTION.

IT IS IMPROVED.

IT'S NO BRAINER AS FAR AS THE NEED TO CLEAN THAT ONE UP.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY.

AT THIS TIME, I WILL OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING FOR ITEM NUMBER 19.

THIS IS THE REZONING OF 1822 SOUTH GLEN BURNIE ROAD FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL TO C AND C FOUR COMMERCIAL TO ONLY C FOUR.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK FOR OR AGAINST THIS, PLEASE COME FORWARD.

AT THIS TIME, MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SECOND, HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED.

WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? ON ITEM NUMBER 19? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER 19, UM, TO APPROVE THE REZONING OF 1822 SOUTH GLENBURNIE ROAD FROM R SIX RESIDENTIAL AND C FOUR COMMERCIAL TO ONLY C FOUR COMMERCIAL.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ORMAN WHITE.

ALDERMAN WHITE.

YES.

ALDERMAN DUST.

YES.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRANDT.

YES.

ALDERMAN ASTER.

YES.

MAYOR OTI.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 20.

[20. Conduct a Public Hearing and Consider Adopting a Resolution Requesting Rulemaking by the NC Wildlife Resource Commission on Navigable Waters at the Rock Quarry Adjacent to Brice's Creek.]

CONDUCT A PUBLIC HEARING AND CONSIDER ADOPTING A RESOLUTION REQUESTING RULEMAKING BY THE NC WILDLIFE RESOURCE COMMISSION ON NAVIGABLE ORDERS AT THE ROCK QUARRY ADJACENT TO BRYCE'S CREEK.

MR. HUGHES.

GOOD EVENING, MAYOR.

EARLIER THIS YEAR, RESIDENTS FROM THE BRYCE'S CREEK HARBOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT REACHED OUT TO THE CITY

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TO ASK IF WE WOULD PETITION, UH, WILDLIFE RESOURCES COMMISSION TO CREATE A NO WAKE ZONE IN THE CANAL.

THERE.

UM, AFTER A FEW MONTHS, THE STATE DID RESPOND AND SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO THEIR INVESTIGATION.

THEIR INVESTIGATION DID COME BACK STATING THAT THEY COULD JUSTIFY, UM, BUOY AT THE ENTRANCE, UH, TO THE OLD QUARRY AND, AND THAT WAS ALL THEY COULD JUSTIFY.

UM, AND SO, UM, IF THIS BOARD, UH, WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND HEAR ANY COMMENTS THAT CITIZENS MAY HAVE DURING THE PUBLIC HEARING, AND THEN CONSIDER A POTENTIAL RESOLUTION FOR US TO CONTINUE THE PROCESS.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF BEFORE WE OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING? OKAY.

AT THIS TIME, WE WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM NUMBER 20.

IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC, PLEASE COME FORWARD AT THIS TIME.

GOOD EVENING.

MY NAME IS PHILLIP P BUFFET JUNIOR LIVE AT TWO 13 SHOREVIEW DRIVE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY OF BRILEY CREEK HARBOR.

AKA MACQUARIE.

UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

BOARD STAFF, CITY MANAGERS, LAWYER, ASSISTANCE CITY MANAGER FOR DOING ALL THE WORK THAT'VE DONE SINCE THEN.

OKAY.

UH, WHEN THIS FIRST STARTED, UM, I WAS UP AT DUKE, AND THAT'S ANOTHER STORY FOR ANOTHER DAY.

UM, BUT, UM, THE PRESIDENT AT THE TIME WANTED ME TO RUN WITH THIS, SO I KIND OF DID THE BEST I COULD WITH RUNNING IT.

UM, UM, SO ANYWAY, SINCE THE LAST TIME WE'VE REALLY TALKED ABOUT ALL THIS, TWO DOLPHINS HAVE COME UP EXPIRED.

OKAY.

ONE WAS HAD, UM, BRUISES CONSISTENT WITH A, WITH A, A WATERCRAFT INJURY.

OKAY.

BUT SHE COULDN'T RULE IT IN AND SHE COULDN'T RULE IT OUT.

SO IT WAS KIND OF LIKE, EH, I DON'T WANNA MAKE A DECISION.

ANOTHER ONE WAS FOUND ABOUT A WEEK AGO, UH, RIGHT AT THE EDGE OF THE QUARRY.

OKAY.

JUST ON THE OTHER SIDE INTO BRYCE'S CREEK HARBOR, RIGHT THERE.

AND THAT WAS DEFINITELY SCARRED FROM A, UH, WATERCRAFT HIT.

OKAY.

SO THAT'S, THAT'S TWO DOLPHINS, UM, IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS THAT, UM, SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED.

OKAY.

UH, THE BOATERS COME IN THERE AND JOIN THEMSELVES, BUT, UH, THEY COME IN FLYING.

AND IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN A BOAT WHEN SOMEBODY GOES BY OR AT EVEN THE, THE, THE REGULAR SPEED THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING, IT ROCKS YOUR BOAT.

OKAY.

SO THAT, THAT'S KIND OF A NUISANCE TOO.

OKAY.

SO I THINK WHERE WE'RE AT IS TRYING TO GET THE STATE TO PUSH ALONG FORWARD.

AND, UH, I'M IN 155000% AGREEMENT WITH THAT.

SO, UM, I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS AND, UH, IF I CAN ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, THAT'D BE GREAT.

OKAY.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

ANYONE ELSE? MAY I MAKE A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING? SECOND.

SECOND.

WE HAVE A MOTION, A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION POSTURE? DID, DID THE STATE TELL YOU THE REASON WHY AND IS JUST ONE NO WAKE ZONE BUOY ADEQUATE FOR THAT AREA? IT WOULD BE TWO NO WAKE ZONE BUOYS.

AND THAT IS, THERE'S AN IMAGE IN, IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKET THAT SHOWS THAT, OKAY, IT'S RIGHT AT THE ENTRANCE TO THE CANAL ITSELF.

UH, THEY CANNOT JUSTIFY ANY OTHER AREAS INSIDE THE QUARRY ITSELF BECAUSE, UH, IT, UH, THEIR RECOMMENDATION TALKED ABOUT, UM, UM, A NOT A HEAVY PRESENCE OF BOATERS AT CERTAIN TIMES, UH, OF THE WEEK WHEN THEY DID THAT, WHEN THEY WERE OUT THERE OBSERVING, UH, NO ONE WAS REALLY GOING FAST ENOUGH TO, TO, FOR THEM TO CONSIDER, UH, IT BEING A NO OH, NO WAKE ZONE.

WE REQUESTED NO WAKE ZONE IN THE, UM, QUARRY ITSELF, BUT THEY COULD NOT JUSTIFY OUR REQUEST FOR THAT.

THE, THE ENTRANCE WAS THE ONLY AREA THEY COULD JUSTIFY IT.

THEY'RE NOT GONNA BE GOING TOO FAST WITH THE WILDLIFE OFFICERS SITTING RIGHT THERE WATCHING THEM.

SURE.

BUT ON WEEKENDS, THAT PLACE CAN GET VERY CROWDED AND THERE'S A LOT OF JET SKIS FLYING UP AND DOWN AND AROUND IN THERE.

UH, I, I WISH THAT THEY WOULD MARK IT INSIDE AS WELL.

SO IF WE CAN, WE GOT A MOTION A SECOND TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING.

SORRY ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S ALL RIGHT.

UH, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

PUBLIC HEARINGS NOW CLOSED, SO WE'RE FREE TO CONTINUE DISCUSSION.

THAT'S OKAY.

UM, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT I, I WISH THE WILDLIFE WOULD CONSIDER MARKING IT INSIDE THE QUARRY AND, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY ASK THEM TO RECONSIDER THAT.

OKAY.

I WONDER, EVEN IF WE HAD TO BUY THE, THE MARKER AND IF THEY WOULD INSTALL IT,

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WE DO HAVE TO PURCHASE THE MARKERS.

WE DO HAVE TO INSTALL THEM.

OKAY.

OKAY.

WELL, PHIL, DON'T YOU THINK, DON'T YOU THINK THERE, WOULD YOU THINK TWO ON IN THE ENTRANCE OF THE, THE, UH, QUARRY WOULD BE ENOUGH IF YOU PUT IT LOOKING FROM PHIL? COME UP.

PHIL, COME UP.

I'M SORRY.

IF YOU'RE LOOKING FROM BRI'S CREEK, IF YOU PUT ONE AT THE ENTRANCE RIGHT THERE AS YOU COME INTO THE CANAL, BUT IF YOU PUT ONE AT THE END OF THE CANAL AS YOU'RE COMING IN TO BRYCE CREEK HARBOR, THAT WOULD SAY NO WAKE ZONE PAST THIS SIGN.

OKAY.

IF YOU, IF YOU NEED A DONATION, I'LL, I'LL DEFINITELY HELP YOU OUT WITH THAT.

UM, BUT PUT ONE, MAKE SURE THAT'S IN THE MINUTES FLOATING IN MACQUARIE.

I DON'T THINK THAT'S A BAD THING EITHER, YOU KNOW, SO, WELL, I, I, I RECKON WE CAN JUST DO WHAT WILDLIFE IS RECOMMENDING AND IF IT BECOMES AN ISSUE, MAYBE WE COULD PLACE MORE IN THERE.

UM, AND EVERYBODY IN THAT AREA GOES TO BED ABOUT EIGHT 30.

SO YOU COME IN AFTER EIGHT 30, NOBODY WILL SEE YOU .

SO WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE AWARD ON ITEM NUMBER 20? UM, WELL, LEMME FIND IT OFF FOOD ON MY COMPUTER.

I WILL READ IT AND THEN YOU CAN MOVE IT.

UH, I GOT IT RIGHT HERE.

OKAY.

MAY I'D LIKE TO ADOPT THE RESOLUTION OF REQUESTING RULE MAKERS OF THE NORTH CAROLINA WILDLIFE RESOURCE COMMISSION ON NAVIGABLE WATERS AT THE ROCK CAR ADJACENT TO BRYCE'S CREEK.

IS THAT THE ONE WE WANT? YES, SIR.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER COMMENT? HEARING NONE.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN BEST, ALDERMAN BEST, YES.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRYANT? YES.

ALDERMAN ASTOR.

YES.

ALDERMAN WHITE? YES.

MAYOR OEM? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 21.

CONSIDER

[21. Consider Adopting a Resolution Authorizing the Submission of a Land and Water Conservation Fund (" LWCF") Grant Application.]

ADOPTING RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING A SUBMISSION OF A LAND AND ORDER CONSERVATION FUND.

GRANT APPLICATION.

MS. WARREN.

GOOD EVENING.

GOOD EVENING.

UM, WE ARE SEEKING, UM, PERMISSION TO APPLY FOR A LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND GRANT, UM, FOR THE CONTINUED DEVELOPMENT OF MARK MARIETTA PARK.

UM, THIS IS, UM, A GRANT THAT IS DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH.

A MAXIMUM AMOUNT IS UP TO 750,000, BUT AT THIS TIME WE ARE ANTICIPATING REQUESTING 300,000.

UM, AND THIS WILL BE FOR, UM, UTILIZE FOR TRAILS AND BRIDGES TO ENHANCE CONNECTIVITY AS WELL AS WATER ACCESS IMPROVEMENTS FOR FISHING AND WATER SPORTS.

THE GRANT DEADLINE IS NOVEMBER 2ND.

THIS BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS.

SO, MS. UH, WARREN, I KNOW YOU SAID IT'S A DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH, SO $750,000 HAVE TO COME FROM THE CITY.

I'M SORRY, I COULDN'T HEAR YOU.

OKAY.

I KNOW YOU SAID IT WAS A DOLLAR DOLLAR MATCH, A $750,000 COMING FROM THE CITY IF THIS, IF THE GRANT IS APPROVED, CORRECT? CORRECT.

YES.

BUT WE'RE ONLY REQUESTING 300,000.

WE'RE NOT REQUESTING 750.

OKAY.

SO THEN WOULD THOSE FUNDS COME BE USED FROM THE BOND REFERENDUM? YES, MA'AM.

TO, TO MAKE THAT MATCH? YES, MA'AM.

AND ALDERMAN BEST, JUST TO CLARIFY THAT, THAT THAT $300,000 WOULD COME FROM FUNDS THAT HAD BEEN ALLOCATED TOWARD THE MARTIN MARIETTA FORD PROJECT ITSELF.

WE, WE HAD ALLOCATED APPROXIMATELY 3 MILLION TOWARD THAT PROJECT.

AND SO THIS IS JUST HELPING GET SOME OF THOSE PROJECTS A LITTLE BIT FARTHER ALONG.

OKAY.

PERFECT.

OKAY, THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM.

IS THERE A A REASON FOR ONLY ASKING FOR THE 300,000 VERSUS THE MAXIMUM? DO WE THINK WE HAVE A BETTER CHANCE AT GETTING IT IF WE ASK FOR LESS? THAT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE, UH, IT'S A FEDERAL GRANT.

IT'S A VERY COMPETITIVE PROCESS.

AND, AND, AND IN ALL HONESTY, UH, $600,000 IN, IN WHAT STAFF IS PROPOSING THAT, THAT'LL GIVE US WHAT WE NEED BASED ON THE MASTER PLAN THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE AND, AND THE NEEDS WE HAVE OUT THERE.

WOULD THERE BE ANY IN KIND ON THAT WITH THE CITY OR WOULD IT BE STRAIGHT? IT DOESN'T HAVE IN KIND IT'S STRICTLY DOLLAR FOR DOLLAR MATCH.

I WOULD, DID I HEAR SOME I'D LIKE TO MAKE THAT NOBODY ELSE WANTS TO HOLD.

HOLD ON ONE SECOND.

HONOR FERGUSON, DO YOU, I MEAN, I SEE, I

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MEAN, WE'RE ON A ROLL RIGHT NOW, SO I SAY YES FOR ALL OF IT.

UM, BUT THAT'S JUST ME.

THE, THE RESOLUTION THAT'S PRESENTED SAYS UP TO 750.

SO ARE YOU ASKING US TO CHANGE THAT TO ONLY DO THE UP TO 300? NOT NECESSARILY.

IN CASE WE SEE THAT WE NEED MORE THAN 300,000, IT WOULD GIVE US THE ABILITY TO INCREASE THAT.

WELL, IF WE GIVE YOU THE ABILITY UP TO SEVEN 50, YOU KNOW, AND IN SIX MONTHS, I WANT YOU COMING BACK SAYING THAT YOU GOT SEVEN 50 IN HAND.

.

OKAY.

GO AHEAD ALA YOU WANNA MAKE THAT MOTION? YEAH.

I DIDN'T KNOW IF ANYBODY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? NO COMMENTS.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

WELL, I'LL MAKE MOTION, UM, TO ADOPT.

WAIT, COME ON YET.

21.

OKAY.

MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE SUBMISSION OF A LAND AND WATER CONSERVATION FUND, UH, GRANT APPLICATION.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, JUST A POINT OF CLARITY THAT THE RESOLUTION BEFORE THIS IS UP TO SEVEN 50, WHICH I'M FINE WITH.

I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL AWARE THAT IT'S UP TO THAT AMOUNT.

YEAH, IT SOUNDS LIKE THAT THERE'S AMPLE FUNDING DEDICATED FOR MARK MEREDITH THROUGH THE BONDS.

THERE WOULD BE NO GENERAL FUND REVENUE THAT WOULD COME OUT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT.

OKAY.

UH, HERE, NO FURTHER DISCUSSION.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN GRANT? YES.

DERMAN ASTOR.

YES.

DERMAN WHITE? YES.

DERMAN BEST? YES.

MAYOR ODOM? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 22.

[22. Consider Adopting a Resolution Authorizing the City Manager to Execute Engineering and Easement Clearing Service Agreements for the Southeast Substation and Glenburnie Substation Transformer Projects.]

CONSIDER ADOPTING RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ENGINEERING AND EASEMENT CLEARING SERVICE AGREEMENTS FOR THE SOUTHEAST SUBSTATION AND GLEN BURNIE SUBSTATION TRANSFORMER PROJECTS.

MR. BOUCHARD.

GOOD EVENING.

I'VE, UH, RECEIVED, UH, ENGINEERING DESIGN PROPOSALS TO COMPLETE THE ENGINEERING DESIGN WORK FOR THE FUTURE SOUTHEAST SUBSTATION.

AND I RECEIVED, UH, PROPOSALS, SIMILAR PROPOSALS TO REPLACE THE THREE TRANSFORMERS AT GLENBURN SUBSTATION.

WHAT I'M ASKING YOU TO DO TONIGHT IS AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER'S ABILITY TO EXECUTE THOSE CONTRACTS AS WELL AS DO SOME TREE CLEARING AND SOME EASEMENT AREAS.

I DON'T HAVE FIRM PROPOSALS IN HAND RIGHT NOW.

I PLAN TO GO OUT TO BID FOR THOSE, UM, LATER THIS MONTH.

BUT, UM, JUST ASKING FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TOWARDS AUTHORIZING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE THOSE AGREEMENTS.

IT'S BOARD, NO QUESTIONS.

CHARLIE? THE ENGINEERING AND, UM, THE ENGINEERING FOR THE SUBSTATION AND THE TRANSFORMER PROJECTS, ALL OF THAT IS PART OF YOUR FIVE YEAR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE PAST COUPLE OF WORKSHOPS IS FUNDING THROUGH REVENUE BONDS, RIGHT? CORRECT.

AND THE INTENT WOULD BE TO REIMBURSE THESE ENGINEERING COSTS ONCE WE GOT THE REVENUE BONDS LATER THIS YEAR.

AND THIS IS, AND MY UNDERSTANDING, AND YOU AND KIM CAN CORRECT ME, THAT THE ENGINEERING AGREEMENTS AS WELL AS BID PROPOSALS NEED TO BE IN HAND BEFORE GOING TO THE LGC TO GET THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMISSION, THE LGC TO GET APPROVAL ON THE REVENUE BONDS.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH.

THE ENGINEERING, UM, HAS TO BE DONE BEFORE WE CAN EVEN MEET WITH THE LGC FOR OUR PRE APPLICATION.

AND THE BIDS HAVE TO BE IN HAND FOR THE APPLICATION.

SO THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IN KIND OF GOING THROUGH THAT REVENUE BOND PROCESS FOR THAT CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT PLAN FOR THE ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE, RIGHT? YES, SIR.

THANK YOU.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THERE'S NO MORE QUESTIONS.

MAKE A MOTION SURE.

TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION ON PROVIDING THE CITY MANAGER TO EXECUTE ENGINEERING AND EASEMENT CLEARING SERVICE AGREEMENTS FOR THE SOUTHEAST SUBSTATION AND GLEN BURNIE SUBSTATION TRANSFORMER PROJECTS.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRYANT? YES.

ALDERMAN ASTOR.

YES.

ALDERMAN WHITE? YES.

ALDERMAN BEST? YES.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

MAYOR O? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER 23, CONSIDER

[23. Consider Adopting a Resolution Authorizing the Installation of Additional Streetlights on Johnson Street.]

ING RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE INSTALLATION OF ADDITIONAL STREET LIGHTS ON JOHNSON STREET.

MR. BOUCHARD? YES, SIR.

STANDARD PROTOCOLS THAT BRING, UH, STREET LIGHTING REQUESTS BEFORE THE BOARD OF ALMAN FOR THEIR APPROVAL.

A LOCAL RESIDENT HAS REQUESTED AN ADDITIONAL STREETLIGHT ON JOHNSON STREET BETWEEN HANCOCK AND QUEEN.

UM, AFTER WE REVIEW THAT AREA, IT IS, WE DEEM IT TO BE INSUFFICIENT FOR ADEQUATE ROADWAY LIGHTING AND RECOMMEND INSTALLATION OF THE STREETLIGHT.

DOES BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ON ITEM NUMBER 23? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION, AUTHORIZE THE INSTALLATION OF THE ADDITIONAL STREETLIGHT REQUESTED ON JOHNSON

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STREET.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE UNLESS HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH DERMAN BRYANT.

DERMAN BRYANT? YES.

ERMAN ASTER? YES.

ERMAN WHITE? YES.

ERMAN BEST? YES.

ERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

ERMAN FERGUSON? YES.

MAYOR ODOM? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

ITEM NUMBER 24,

[24. Consider Adopting a Resolution Authorizing Approval of Municipal Service District Advisory Committee Recommended Projects.]

CONSIDER DR.

RESOLUTION AUTHORIZE THE APPROVAL OF MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

RECOMMENDED PROJECT MR. HUGHES MAYOR ON AUGUST 18TH.

THE MSD ADVISORY COMMITTEE, UM, MADE VARIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS ON PROJECTS THAT I'M GONNA TALK ABOUT.

THEY ALL VOTED UNANIMOUSLY ON THESE PROJECTS.

THE FIRST ONE IS TO PURCHASE ADDITIONAL BENCH DIVIDERS IN THE AMOUNT OF $3,000 OFFENSE REPLACEMENT PROJECT ON THE RIVER WALL.

THIS IS OVER NEAR THE, UH, UH, NEW FISHING PIER.

THE ORIGINAL ESTIMATE PROVIDED WAS $80,000 WHEN THE ACTUAL PRICES CAME IN.

THE ACTUAL QUOTE WAS 92,000.

AND THEN SIDEWALKS AT UNION POINT PARK.

UH, AND SO ONE IS ALONG THE STRAIGHTAWAY AND THE OTHER IS CONNECTING, UM, FROM RIGHT THERE AT SOUTH FRONT AND EAST FRONT.

GOING BACK UNDERNEATH THE, THE BRIDGE, THE WALK WALKTHROUGH BRIDGE, THAT AMOUNT IS $17,500.

AND THE FINAL THING IS A EXTRA DUTY POLICE OFFICER DOWNTOWN.

AND THE AMOUNT OF $10,000 ON FRIDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHTS FROM 9:00 PM TO 3:00 AM UNTIL THE FUNDS RUN OUT.

AND THEN AFTER THAT TIME, WE'LL ASK THE POLICE DEPARTMENT TO COME IN AND GIVE US AN EVALUATION, UH, OF WHETHER OR NOT THEY THOUGHT IT WAS AS SUCCESSFUL.

AND THEN THE COMMITTEE CAN EVALUATE THAT BOARD.

HAVE QUESTIONS.

JUST TO PROVIDE JUST A, A, A LITTLE BIT OF CLARITY ON THE EXTRA DUTY POLICE OFFICER DOWNTOWN.

OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A, A, A SYSTEM IN PLACE, ESSENTIALLY FOR OFF-DUTY OFFICERS TO PICK UP EXTRA DUTY ASSIGNMENTS.

AND THEY'RE PAID BY THE PERSON WHO PUTTING IN THE REQUEST.

THE MSD ADVISORY COMMITTEE HAS TALKED ABOUT INCREASED PUBLIC SAFETY PRESENCE DOWNTOWN, ESPECIALLY DURING THESE TIMES.

AND SO WE LOOKED AT UTILIZING THAT SYSTEM THAT'S ALREADY IN PLACE AND THEN JUST ALLOCATING 10,000 TO KIND OF DRAW ON IT FOR THOSE SHIFTS THAT GET PICKED UP.

IDEALLY, THE OFFICER THAT'S DOING THAT WOULD HAVE A DECIBEL READER, UM, WITH THEM, WHICH HAS BEEN REQUESTED BY MANY OF THE RESIDENTS IN, UH, THE MSD FOOTPRINT THAT APPROVED THIS.

SO THAT'S THE, THE, THE HOPE.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

I'VE GOTTEN SOME FEEDBACK FROM RESIDENTS IN WARD FOR, UH, PARTICULARLY ABOUT THE BENCH DIVIDERS.

UM, IT IS SPLIT 50 50 AND, UM, I'VE BEEN ASKED TO BRING UP THE QUESTION, DOES THE MSD HAVE AN AWARENESS ABOUT THE NATURE OF SORT OF BRINGING DISADVANTAGE TO ALREADY UNHOUSED PEOPLE AND JUST THE, THIS DOESN'T SEEM FAIR TO SOME PEOPLE.

SO I WAS WONDERING IF, IF, UM, THE ALDERMAN ON THAT ADVISORY COMMITTEE MIGHT GO BACK TO THE MSD ABOUT THIS ISSUE.

JUST FOR THE SAKE OF CONVERSATION, I KNOW THAT THE BENCH DIVIDERS, AND PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE BENCH DIVIDERS THAT WENT IN, THAT ARE ALREADY INSTALLED, HAD BEEN THERE ABOUT A YEAR.

THAT'S CORRECT.

WERE APPROVED BY THE MSD ADVISORY BOARD THEN AND THE PRIOR BOARD OF ALDERMAN FOR INSTALLATION.

AND SO THAT WAS THE, THE CURRENT ONES.

THESE ARE TO COMPLETE THOSE, THAT PROJECT WITH THE, UH, BENCHES.

BUT IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IT, I I DON'T, I I THINK THE DIVIDERS WERE INTENTIONALLY RECOMMENDED, UH, FOR THAT PURPOSE BACK WHEN THEY WERE RECOMMENDED WAS, UM, TO, TO PREVENT THE SLEEPING ON BENCHES.

I THINK THAT WAS THE INTENT.

YOU CAN CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, FOR THOSE WHO WERE HERE.

YOU ARE.

CORRECT.

AND, AND CURRENTLY, UM, UM, BEAR PLAZA AND THERE ARE A FEW BENCHES ALONG MIDDLE STREET THAT DO NOT HAVE THE DIVIDERS, UM, STAFF INSTALLED QUITE A FEW OF THEM IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA, UH, ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

AND ARE WE HAVING A PARTICULAR ISSUE WITH PEOPLE SLEEPING ON THE BENCHES? WE USED TO.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT I, I I, YOU KNOW, I DON'T MIND SHARING.

I DON'T LOVE THE DESIGN, BUT I WILL TELL YOU FROM THAT ADVISORY BOARD, I MEAN UNANIMOUSLY OF BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS IN THAT FOOTPRINT WHO, UM, THEY DO SEE THAT ACTIVITY AND, UH, THEY, THEY UNANIMOUSLY ASKED FOR THESE DIVIDERS.

AND SO I FEEL IT'S KIND OF INCUMBENT THAT I GO WITH THEIR RECOMMENDATION.

SO I'LL, YOU KNOW, IF YOU, IF THE MAJORITY OF THE BOARD WANTS TO TABLE THE DIVIDERS FOR US TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THE NEXT MSD ADVISORY COMMITTEE AND ASK THEM, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT AS WELL.

UH, BUT THIS WAS THE, THESE ARE THE PROJECTS THEY RECOMMENDED.

THERE'S ONLY A FEW OF 'EM LEFT.

RIGHT.

HOW MANY OF HOW MANY ARE WE LOOKING AT THERE? THERE ARE PROBABLY UP TO

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10 THERE LEFT.

AND THE, THESE, THESE DIVIDERS COST ABOUT $300 EACH.

YEAH.

SO OF ALL THE BENCHES THAT WE HAVE DOWNTOWN, THERE'S ONLY 10 JUST WITHOUT THE DIVIDERS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

AND IT HAS SOLVED THE PROBLEM OF PEOPLE STRETCHED OUT SLEEPING ON THE BENCHES.

CORRECT? YES, SIR.

ALMAN FERGUSON.

SO I, I KNOW THE ADVISORY BOARD IS IN PLACE FOR SUCH MAKING SUCH DECISIONS.

BUT, AND, AND AGAIN, THIS IS MSD MONEY, THEY PAY THAT SECOND TAX.

SO IF THE CITIZENS AND THE BUSINESS OWNERS ARE AMENABLE TO HAVING THIS DONE, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH IT.

BUT, SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA, DAN, I'M GONNA SAY MAKE THIS STATEMENT.

SO I FEEL SOME KIND OF WAY AS MS, AS AUMAN WHITE THOUGH, ABOUT OUR CITIZENS THAT SLEEP ON THE BENCH.

SO WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO ABOUT THIS AS A CITY WITH OUR HOMELESS PEOPLE? WELL, I THINK THAT, WHAT ARE WE GONNA, HOW ARE WE GONNA ADDRESS THAT? HOW ARE WE GONNA ACCOMMODATE THEM? I MEAN, IT IS A PUBLIC, IT IS A PUBLIC BENCH.

IT'S ON THE PUBLIC STREET SIDEWALK.

SO, I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GOING TO I, I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH THE ALDER ALDERMAN BEST.

I THINK WHAT THIS HIGHLIGHTS IS THAT THERE IS A, A GAP IN SERVICE FOR THOSE THAT ARE UNHOUSED DURING THE DAY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE RCS TO STAY DURING THE, UH, YOU KNOW, THE EMERGENCY SHELTERS, BUT THERE'S NO PLACE DURING THE DAY.

AND SO I'M, YOU KNOW, ACTIVELY WORKING WITH RCS ON IDEAS AND HOPEFULLY CAN, YOU KNOW, BRING THAT YOU ALL, I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO LOOK AT THAT TOO.

'CAUSE I DO THINK THAT AFFECTS THE WHOLE CITY, NOT JUST WARD ONE.

UM, BUT THAT IS A GAP IN SERVICE THAT I THINK WE SHOULD PLAY A ROLE IN HELPING ALLEVIATE AGREED.

IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE BETTER IF WE HAD A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH IF POSSIBLE.

I'M HAPPY TO LOOK INTO THAT MORE AND BRING IT TO THE BOARD.

THAT IDEA.

UM, AS, AS FOR THESE PROJECTS, MR. MAYOR, I'D MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL OF THE MUNICIPAL SERVICE DISTRICT ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

RECOMMENDED PROJECTS AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN ASTOR.

ALDERMAN ASTOR.

YES.

ALDERMAN WHITE.

YES.

ALDERMAN BEST? YES.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRYANT? YES.

MAYOR ODOM.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 25.

CONSIDER

[25. Consider Adopting a Resolution Approving a Declaration of Intent to Reimburse for Capital Improvements to the Electric Utility System.]

ADOPTING A RESOLUTION APPROVING A DECLARATION OF INTENT TO REIMBURSE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ELECTRIC UTILITY SYSTEM.

MS. OSTROM, MAYOR WARD DOES ITEM AND REQUEST APPROVAL FOR A DECLARATION OF OFFICIAL INTENT TO REIMBURSE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE CITY'S UTILITY SYSTEM.

AS A REMINDER, DURING THE LAST ELECTRIC WORK SESSION, THERE WAS DISCUSSION ON THE DEEDED ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND FINANCING OPTIONS, ALONG WITH MY RECOMMENDATION REVENUE BONDS AS AN OPTION.

FURTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS AND PROPOSED FINANCING ARE PLANNED FOR UPCOMING WORK SESSIONS.

PRELIMINARY WORK IS NECESSARY TO MOVE FORWARD AND ENGINEERING ESTIMATES ARE REQUIRED TO DISCUSS OUR FINANCING PLANS WITH THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COMMISSION.

THE CITY ANTICIPATES SPENDING APPROXIMATELY 2.28 MILLION FOR ENGINEERING AND PARTIAL EASEMENT CLEARING FOR THE NEW SOUTHEAST SUBSTATION AND ENGINEERING FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF THE GLENBURG SUBSTATION TRANSFORMERS.

BECAUSE THESE COSTS MUST BE INCURRED BEFORE FINANCING IS ISSUED, SUCH AS REVENUE BONDS ADOPTING THE DECLARATION PRESERVES THE CITY'S ABILITY TO REIMBURSE ITSELF FROM THE FUTURE BOND PROCEEDS FOR ELIGIBLE EXPENDITURES.

THE DECLARATION IDENTIFIES A MAXIMUM ANTICIPATED FINANCING AMOUNT OF THREE 31 MILLION, BUT IT DOES NOT AUTHORIZE THE ISSUANCE OF THE DEBT.

WE'LL RETURN TO THE BOARD FOR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL FOR FINANCING.

LATER IN THE PROCESS, STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTION OF THIS RESOLUTION AND DECLARATION OF OFFICIAL ATTEMPT TO REIMBURSE THIS BOARD.

HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY.

WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? ON ITEM NUMBER 25, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION APPROVING A DECLARATION OF INTENT TO REIMBURSE FOR CAPITAL IMPROVEMENTS TO THE ELECTRIC UTILITY SYSTEM AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? JUST BRIEF DISCUSSION.

THE AD HOC GROUP'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND I KNOW DURING OUR, UM, WORKSHOP SESSIONS, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE ELECTRIC UTILITIES INFRASTRUCTURE, THE NEED TO INVEST IN THAT, UM, MAINLY AS PRESENTED THE SUBSTATION, UH, AND THE TRANSFORMER PROJECTS, UM, AND FUNDING THAT THROUGH THOSE REVENUE BOND PROCESS.

THIS JUST KIND OF GOES BACK TO WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT EARLIER, WHICH IS THIS ALLOWS US THE ABILITY TO GET REIMBURSED FROM THE REVENUE BOND WHEN WE GO DOWN THAT ROUTE, UM, FOR THE ENGINEERING SERVICE

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SERVICES THAT WE'RE ENTERING INTO IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT FINANCING.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY.

WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ON ITEM NUMBER 25? I'M SORRY, I ALREADY HAVE A MOTION.

A SECOND.

UH, IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN WHITE.

ALDERMAN WHITE.

YES.

ALDERMAN BEST? YES.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRANDT.

YES.

ALDERMAN ASER.

YES.

MAYOR ODOM.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 26.

[26. Consider Adopting an Ordinance Amending Chapter 82 "Vehicles for Hire."]

CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 82 VEHICLES FOR HIRE.

MR. DAVIS.

UH, YES.

MAYOR.

MAYOR, THE BOARD.

UM, THIS IS COMING BACK BEFORE YOU, UM, TO GET US ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

UM, YOU'LL RECALL THAT CURRENT CHAPTER 82 IS WHAT WE CALL THE TAXI CAP ORDINANCE.

UM, IT'S BEEN ON THE BOOKS FOR, SINCE THE EARLY SEVENTIES, NOT BEEN ENFORCED FOR 15, 20 YEARS.

UM, BECAME SOMEWHAT OBSOLETE WITH THE ADVENT OF LYFT AND UBER SERVICES.

UM, SO ONE OF OUR PURPOSES IS TO, UM, REMOVE THE TACTIC CAB ORDINANCE FROM THE CODE, UM, AND REPLACE IT WITH SOMETHING ELSE.

WHAT IS BEFORE YOU IS THE SOMETHING ELSE? UM, ROUGHLY FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES FOR HIRE ARE ADDRESSED.

UM, WE'VE GOT OUR TOUR BUSES, UM, TROLLEYS, PET PEDAL TROLLEYS, PEDICABS AND HORSE DRAWN CARRIAGES.

UM, EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES HAS, UM, VARIOUS SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS, UM, SUITED, YOU KNOW, TO THOSE PARTICULAR USES MORE BROADLY.

UM, WE REGULATE, UM, THE OWNERS OF THOSE BUSINESSES, UM, THAT ARE VETTED THROUGH THE CITY.

UM, AND THEN SUBSEQUENTLY THOSE OWNERS VET THEIR DRIVERS, UM, IN THE SAME WAY, THE EXACT SAME WAY ACTUALLY, THAT THE UBER AND LYFT DRIVERS ARE VETTED, UM, RATHER THAN MINE.

EACH OF THOSE AREAS.

WHY DON'T WE OPEN IT TO ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE TO EACH OF THOSE CATEGORIES, IF YOU HAVE ANY.

THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS.

ARE YOU DOING AWAY WITH, UH, WAS THERE LIKE 36 FRANCHISES? YES, SIR.

GOOD, GOOD MEMORY.

ARE YOU, ARE YOU DOING AWAY WITH THAT? THEY'RE GONE? YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, I KNOW THAT YEARS AGO, UH, CHIEF COLOMBO DID A PRETTY COMPREHENSIVE STUDY ON THAT.

MM-HMM .

AND THE BOARD AT THAT TIME DECIDED TO TAKE NO ACTION.

PART OF THAT WAS AT THAT TIME, PRIOR TO UBER AND LYFT AND OTHERS, UM, THERE WAS A, THERE WAS A VALUE ASSOCIATED WITH THOSE FRANCHISES.

UM, SAFEWAY TAXI FUND, TAXI.

MM-HMM .

NEW KIRK TAXI.

THERE'S SEVEN OR EIGHT OF 'EM.

UM, IS THERE ANY, THERE'S ANY COMPENSATION ON THE PART OF THOSE FRANCHISES TO THE OWNERS? NO, SIR.

THEY HAVE THOSE, THOSE EXPIRED 15, 20 YEARS AGO.

WE'VE NOT ENFORCED IT, NOT CHARGED ANYONE FOR THOSE FEES.

JUST TO GET UP ON THE SAME PAGE BACK WHEN THAT WAS BEING ENFORCED, IT WAS A FAIRLY ROBUST ORDINANCE.

UM, IT REQUIRED A FAIRLY HEFTY ANNUAL FEE.

UM, THE DRIVERS WERE VETTED.

UM, THE CARS WERE INSPECTED BY THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

UM, IT WAS A, A, A PRETTY HEAVY LIFT FOR THE CITY.

UM, BUT IN THE LAST 15 YEARS, THERE'S BEEN NO FEES CHARGED.

THOSE FRANCHISES HAVE SINCE EXPIRED.

AND I'M NOT SURE THAT THOSE FOLKS ARE STILL IN BUSINESS.

I MEAN, ONE OF THEM MIGHT BE .

YEAH, I, I WOULD WANNA MAKE SURE BEFORE WE TOOK ACTION ON THAT, BUT, UM, THAT'S JUST MY, MY THOUGHT ON IT.

UM, I, I DON'T SEE TAXI CAPS COMING BACK.

UM, BUT AT THE TIME THAT IT WAS TABLED, PART OF THE REASON IT WAS TABLED IS IN DOING AWAY WITH IT.

THERE WASN'T ANY KIND OF A, LIKE A TOBACCO BUYOUT OR ANY TYPE OF A PHASING OUT.

IT WAS JUST A, A HARD DETERMINATION ON THE PART OF, UM, QUITE A FEW PEOPLE THAT WERE STILL DOING THAT LEGALLY.

UM, AND, AND PART OF THE REASON CHIEF PLUM DID ALL THAT RESEARCH IS THERE WAS A LOT OF UNLICENSED CABS AROUND NEW BERN AND THERE WERE SEVERAL INSURANCE CLAIMS. AND THE CITY, UM, SOMEWHAT WAS NOT POLICING THE UNLICENSED, UM, CAB DRIVERS.

SO I THINK, I MEAN, ALDEN OUTLAW TO, TO YOUR POINT THIS, EXCUSE ME, THE VEHICLE FOR HIGHER ORDINANCE AS AMENDED THAT'S PRESENTED HERE, ADDRESSES I THINK FOUR DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES THAT CAN CURRENTLY OPERATE ON THE STREETS UNDER STATE LAW.

AND WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ADDING IN SOME REASONABLE REGULATIONS AND GUARDRAILS FOR THOSE THAT CAN OPERATE.

UM, I'VE SPENT

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A GREAT DEAL OF TIME WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY AND WITH BUSINESS OWNERS AND RESIDENTS IN THE DOWNTOWN ABOUT THESE VARIOUS FORMS OF VEHICLES FOR HIRE.

AND, UM, WE'VE KICKED AROUND A LOT OF DIFFERENT CHANGES AND KIND OF REFINED IT DOWN TO WHERE THEY CAN OPERATE TO TRY TO HAVE THE, THE MOST MINIMAL IMPACT ON DOWNTOWN RESIDENTS, UM, IN, IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS, RESTRICTING MANY OF THEM TO COMMERCIAL ZONED STREETS.

PERIOD.

SO A A LOT OF TIME IT'S KIND OF GONE INTO PUTTING TOGETHER A, A KIND OF COMPREHENSIVE SET OF REGULATIONS TO PROTECT AGAINST THAT VERY THING, BUT FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT CATEGORIES.

SO, AND DERMAN, ALEX, JUST, JUST TO BE CLEAR, FOR EVERYONE'S SAKE, NOTHING IN THIS ORDINANCE PRECLUDES THE TAXI OPERATORS FROM CONTINUING TO DO EXACTLY WHAT THEY'VE ALWAYS DONE, BUT THEY WON'T HAVE A FRANCHISE TO DO IT WITH ANYMORE.

THEY DON'T HAVE ONE NOW.

THEY'VE NOT HAD ONE.

WELL, I KNOW YOU SAID THEY HAD EXPIRED, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW THIS 'CAUSE I'M A LITTLE BIT OFF GUARD ON IT, BUT, UM, I THINK TOMORROW IF, UH, IF A HOLDER OF ONE OF THOSE 36 FRANCHISES WANTED TO, UM, RENEW THEIR FRANCHISE LEGALLY AND PRESENTLY THEY COULD DO IT.

CORRECT? THEY COULD.

YES, SIR.

AND IF, IF THE BOARD AUTHORIZED STAFF AND THE BUDGET TO REINITIATE THE INSPECTIONS, DO ALL THE VETTING AND DO ALL THE THINGS.

BUT YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT.

IF, IF, IF THE FUNDS WERE AVAILABLE, WE COULD TURN THAT PROGRAM BACK ON.

SO IF WE DON'T TURN THAT PROGRAM BACK ON, THERE'S STILL, THEY CAN, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR BUSINESSES OPERATING THE TAXI CAB.

YES, MA'AM.

THEY'VE BEEN OPERATING FOR 15, 20 YEARS.

OKAY.

YES MA'AM.

ALRIGHT.

THIS WILL NOT STOP THEM.

OKAY.

SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN UP THIS.

CAN, UM, THE, THE BOOZE BILL, WHATEVER YOU WANNA CALL IT, UM, IF YOU CAN CLARIFY FOR ME, AS OF THE CURRENT LAW AND STATUTE, THEY CAN OPERATE ANYWHERE ON A PUBLIC STREET FOLLOWING STATE STATUTE.

YES, SIR.

OKAY.

UM, AND LET'S, LET'S, LET'S BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THAT.

UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE IS PUT IN PLACE AS OTTOMAN FERGUSON MENTIONED, UM, SOME GUARDRAILS FOR THE OPERATION OF THESE DIFFERENT TYPES OF VEHICLES.

THE TROLLEY CAB IN PARTICULAR IS ONE THAT CAN OPERATE NOW AS A MATTER OF RIGHT.

WITH NO RESTRICTIONS OTHER THAN THE STATE LAW RESTRICTIONS.

SO, UM, THIS ACTUALLY, UM, IMPOSES MORE CONSTRAINTS ON THEM THAT THEY OTHERWISE HAVE RIGHT AT THIS MOMENT, WHICH IS GREAT.

I APPRECIATE THE WORK AND THE EFFORT, BUT HAVING SET UP HERE FOR A DECADE, I ASSURE YOU THAT THE WORD ON THE STREET IS GONNA BE THAT THE NEWBORN BOARD OF ALDERMAN APPROVED THIS BOOZE CRUISE.

RIGHT.

ONCE THIS PASSES RIGHT.

TO ME, THIS IS A NO-WIN SITUATION.

IF YOU DON'T VOTE FOR THIS, THEN IT'S WILLY-NILLY THEY CAN START OPERATING TOMORROW.

THERE'S NO GUARDRAILS.

THEY CAN DO WHATEVER THEY WANT TO.

RIGHT.

IF YOU APPROVE THIS, YOU'RE GOING TO GET, UM, CHARACTERIZED AS SUPPORTING THAT PARTICULAR, UM, OPERATION.

SO, YES.

SO WHAT IS, SO, EXCUSE ME.

SO WHAT IS THAT BLUES? IT'S WHERE SOMEBODY CAN OPERATE WITHIN, IF THIS PASSES MM-HMM .

THEY CAN OPERATE WITHIN THIS BOUNDARY.

MM-HMM .

YOU'RE GOING TO GO TO A BUSINESS DOWNTOWN, YOU'RE GOING TO HOP ON A PEDAL BIKE THAT MAYBE HAS, I DON'T KNOW, 8, 10, 12 PEOPLE ON IT.

OKAY.

AND YOU'RE DRINKING BEER, WINE, OR WHATEVER ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IS ALLOWED WHILE YOU'RE CRUISING UP AND DOWN THE STREETS, LIKE QUALIFY FOR DWI, WHICH AS THE MAYOR SAID, WHICH YOU COULD, I MEAN, WE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEFORE.

YOU CAN DO THAT NOW.

YOU CAN HIRE AN UBER DRIVER AND YOU CAN DRINK IN THE BACKSEAT OF THE CAR, IN A VEHICLE FOR HIRE UNDER STATE STATUTE, THE LIMO LAW.

UM, AND SO AS IT EXISTS NOW, WE CAN HAVE THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS ON THE STREETS.

AND SO THIS WAS AGAIN, AN ATTEMPT TO TRY TO CREATE SOME REGULATIONS AROUND WHERE THEY CAN GO.

HOW MANY, YOU KNOW, IF YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, CONSUMPTION, HOW MANY DRINKS, YOU KNOW, PER RIDE, WHAT ARE THE, THE HOURS OF OPERATION.

AND SO TRYING TO KIND OF PUT THOSE GUARDRAILS IN PLACE WHILE ALSO STILL LETTING BUSINESSES THAT WANT TO INNOVATE AND TRY DIFFERENT THINGS IN NEW BERN DO THAT.

BUT AGAIN, WITH, WITH KIND OF A MIND FOR, WELL, WE'RE NOT DOING IT IN RESIDENTIALLY ZONED AREAS.

WELL, I MEAN, NOW WHAT YOU JUST EXPLAINED, YOU'RE SAYING AN INDIVIDUAL COULD BE DRINKING INSIDE OF AN UBER, DRIVING AROUND TOWN.

RIDING AROUND TOWN.

AND THE MAYOR JUST SAID RIDING A BICYCLE AND DRINKING.

I THINK THE, THE, THE, SO WHAT THE PETTY CAB, THAT IS A, ANOTHER

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CLASSIFICATION HERE IS A BICYCLE TROLLEY.

RIGHT.

OKAY.

AND SO THAT'S, IT'S THE, AGAIN, IT'S THE SAME THING.

YOU COULD DO IT IN, IN BOTH OF THE VEHICLES, YOU COULD DO IT IN A HORSE PRONGED CARRIAGE.

UM, WELL I SEE THAT IT'S MORE AS A HAZARD.

SOMEBODY RIDING AROUND ON A YES MA'AM.

JUST BE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THERE'S, THERE'S A DRIVER WHO IS NOT DRINKING.

OKAY.

ALRIGHT.

YES MA'AM.

ALRIGHT, LET'S GET ALL THE PIECES.

THE HIRED DRIVER GOOD IN HERE.

SO I'M LIKE, HUH? OKAY.

THANK YOU.

YES, MA'AM, VERY MUCH.

OKAY.

WHAT'S THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ON ITEM NUMBER 26, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 82 VEHICLES FOR HIRE AS PRESENTED.

SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN BEST, ALDERMAN BEST, YES.

ALDERMAN.

HOW LONG? NONE.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON? YES.

ERMAN BRYANT? NO.

ERMAN ASHER? YES.

ERMAN WHITE? YES.

YES.

YES.

SORRY.

OKAY.

MAYOR ODA, NO.

MOTION CARRIES FOUR THREE, CORRECT? YES.

OKAY.

[Items 27 - 31]

UH, BOARD ITEMS NUMBER 27 THROUGH 31.

WE CAN CONSIDER THOSE COLLABORATIVELY IF WE WOULD LIKE TO.

SO I WILL READ THEM ALL.

IF ANYONE OBJECTS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.

ITEM NUMBER 27 IS CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE 2019 ELECTRIC IMPROVEMENTS FUND.

NUMBER 28 IS CONSIDER ADOPTING ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE MULTI-YEAR GRANTS FUND.

29 IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE 2021 ELECTRIC SYSTEM CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FUND.

NUMBER 30 IS CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENT FUND.

AND 31 IS TO CONSIDER ADOPTING AN ORDINANCE TO AMEND THE BROAD STREET PIER PROJECT FUND, UH, MS. OSTROM.

OKAY, SO, AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT QUITE A FEW, UH, PROJECT AND GRANT FUNDS HERE.

UM, ITEM 27 INCREASES THE ELECTRIC IMPROVEMENT PROJECT FUND BY APPROXIMATELY 3.6 MILLION FOR ADDITIONAL COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE THREE LOCATING CITY OWNED ELECTRIC INFRASTRUCTURE ALONG THE US 70 IMPROVEMENTS, UM, ALONG, I'M SORRY, US 70 IMPROVEMENT PROJECT NC DT APPROVE THE CHANGE ORDER AND WILL REIMBURSE THE STATE FOR THESE SPOTS.

I, NUMBER 28 RECOGNIZES A $24,000 STATE GRANT FOR THE RIVERSIDE NATIONAL REGISTER.

HISTORIC DISTRICT UPDATE AND ADJUST TWO COMPLETED GRANTS TO THEIR FINAL AMOUNTS FOR CLOSEOUT.

ITEM 29 TRANSFERS APPROXIMATELY 2.28 MILLION FROM THE ELECTRIC FUND TO PROVIDE INTERIM FUNDING FOR ENGINEERING EASEMENT CLEARING FOR THE SOUTH EAST SUBSTATION AND ENGINEERING FOR THE GLEN BURN SUBSTATION TRANSFORMER REPLACEMENT.

THESE EXPEND ARE EXPECTED TO BE REIMBURSED THROUGH FUTURE FINANCING.

ITEM NUMBER 30 RECOGNIZES AN ADDITIONAL $207,655 AND 75 CENTS IN GOLDEN LEAF FUNDING REALLOCATED FROM THE DISCONTINUED GROSS STREET PUMP PROJECT TO THE ELIZABETH AVENUE DRAINAGE PROJECT.

BEGIN BRINGING THE TOTAL GRANT WORD FOR ELIZABETH AVENUE TO APPROXIMATELY $457,656.

ITEM NUMBER 31 RECOGNIZES AN ADDITIONAL $50,000 CONTRIBUTION FROM THE NORTH CAROLINA WILDLIFE HABITAT FOUNDATION FOR THE BROAD STREET PIER.

PROJECT STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTION OF THESE, OF EACH OF THESE, UM, ORDINANCE AMENDMENTS.

BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION.

I HAVE A STATEMENT.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, I WAS A LITTLE UPSET ABOUT THIS WHEN I GOT THE AGENDA AND READ THIS AND KNOW THAT THAT 207, UM, THOUSAND DOLLARS WAS MOVED FROM THE ROSARY PROJECT AND PUT INTO THE ELIZABETH AVENUE PROJECT.

BUT I HAD A CONVERSATION WITH, UM, MR. CHARLES AND HE FILLED ME IN, GAVE ME SOME INFORMATION AND ALL OF THIS.

SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD, I'M A TEAM PLAYER, SO I THINK MS. LANEY WHITE NEEDS THAT MONEY TO GO TO HER PROJECT FOR ELIZABETH AVENUE, BUT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT.

UM, THANK YOU.

I'LL, MY BEST.

I WAS, UM, 'CAUSE AND THE REASON WHY I WAS A LITTLE BIT MISS ALDERMAN WHITE IS BECAUSE THE ROSE STREET PROJECT, DUFFY FIELD AREA, THE STORM WATER, I MEAN, THEY HAVE SUFFERED FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS OVER THERE WITH FLOOD WATERS AND, AND HEAVY STORMS. AND THAT WAS ONE OF MY RESERVATIONS.

BUT LIKE I SAID, IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND COMPLETE YOUR PROJECT AND THEN CONSIDER, CONTINUE TO LOOK FOR GRANT MONEY AND OTHER, OTHER AVENUES OF GETTING THIS MONEY TO GET THIS PROJECT, THEN THAT'S WHAT WE'LL DO.

THANK YOU, MA'AM.

YOU ARE WELCOME.

THAT'S IT.

OKAY.

ANY OTHER COMMENTS? WAS THE PLEASURE ON THE BOARDS FOR ITEMS 27 THROUGH 31? MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION

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TO ADOPT ITEMS 27 THROUGH 31.

YES, MA'AM.

AS WRITTEN, I HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRYANT? YES.

ALDERMAN ASTER.

YES.

ALDERMAN WHITE.

YES.

ALDERMAN VEST? YES.

MAYOR ODOM? YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER 32.

[32. Consider Adopting a Budget Ordinance Amendment for FY2027.]

CONSIDER ADOPTING A BUDGET ORDINANCE AMENDMENT FOR FY 2027 MS. OSTROM.

OKAY, THIS ITEM AMENDS THE CURRENT FISCAL YEAR OPERATING BUDGET FOR FOUR PURPOSES.

FIRST, THE GENERAL FUND APPROPRIATE $76,070 FROM FUND BALANCE TO REPLACE ONE OF THE TWO WRECKED PATROL VEHICLES THAT WAS TOTALED IN AN ACCIDENT.

THE CITY RECEIVED A TOTAL OF 40 3007 AND $74 IN INSURANCE PROCEEDS FOR BOTH WRECK VEHICLES.

THE INITIAL ORDINANCE AND MEMO INDICATED TWO VEHICLES TO BE REPLACED.

YOU HAVE A REVISED ORDINANCE FOR ONE VEHICLE TO BE REPLACED.

SECOND, THE MSD APPROPRIATES $122,500 FROM FUND BALANCE FOR THE PROJECTS APPROVED EARLIER ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA, THE DOWNTOWN BENCH ARMREST RIVER WALK FENCING SIDEWALK EDITION IN PARK AND AN MSD SPONSORED EXTRA DUTY POLICE CO.

THIRD, THE SEWER FUND APPROPRIATE 105 HUNDRED 80 1002 $90 FROM FUND BALANCE TO REPLACE A 2006 SEWER VACUUM TRUCK WITH NEARLY 300,000 MILES.

REPLACEMENT WAS ORIGINALLY SCHEDULED FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, BUT IS NOW NEEDED BECAUSE OF SIGNIFICANT MECHANICAL ISSUES AFFECTING THE CITY'S PRIMARY DRUGS.

THE ORDINANCE PROVIDED IN YOUR PACKET LY AMENDED THE WATER FUND.

THE REVISED ORDINANCE ALSO INCLUDES THE CORRECTION TO AMEND THE SEWER FUND.

FINALLY, THE ELECTRIC FUND APPROPRIATE APPROXIMATELY 2.28 MILLION FOR FUND BALANCE FOR TRANSFER TO THE ELECTRIC SYSTEM CAPACITY IMPROVEMENT PROJECT LINE FOR THE SOUTHEAST AND GLENBURN SUBSTATION PROJECTS DISCUSSED UNDER ITEM NUMBER 29.

STAFF RECOMMENDS ADOPTION OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCES, AMENDMENTS BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS? I I JUST HAVE ONE.

SO WE RECEIVED AN UPDATED ITEM NUMBER 32, BUT IT THOSE WERE THE TWO REVISIONS THAT, OR THERE'S TWO ERRORS ON THE ORIGINAL COORDINATES.

ONE WAS, IT SAID TWO REPLACE TWO PD VEHICLES.

SO THAT'S BEEN CORRECTED TO ONE.

AND THE OTHER, UM, ERROR WAS THAT IT, THE SEWER TRUCK WAS, UM, AN ADJUSTMENT TO THE, THE, UM, WATER FUND AND NOT THE SEWER FUND.

OKAY.

I, I GUESS I WAS JUST CONFUSED BECAUSE THE HARD COPY WE HAVE LOOKS THE SAME AS WHAT'S IN OUR PACKAGE.

THEY BOTH SAY TWO POLICE VEHICLES.

THE GENERAL FUND IS AMENDED TO APPROPRIATE $76,070 FROM FUND BALANCE FOR THE REPLACEMENT OF ONE OF THE VEHICLES.

SO, UH, SORRY, LEMME CLARIFY.

THE, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS THE SAME.

IT'S A HUNDRED FIFTY TWO ONE FORTY.

I WAS EXPECTING THAT TO BE LIKE HALF SINCE IT'S ONE VEHICLE VERSUS TWO.

UM, IT SHOULD INCLUDE BOTH THE UM, OH, YEP, I SEE THAT.

SO THE, THE LANGUAGE IN THE EXPLANATION WAS CHANGED.

I DON'T THINK THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS AT THE BOTTOM WOULD CHANGE UNLESS THE DOLLAR AMOUNT WAS RIGHT ON THE LAWN AND WE LISTED TWO AND IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ONE.

I'M NOT SURE.

I DIDN'T THINK SO, BUT I'M JUST THIS, SO I GUESS ULTIMATELY WHAT THE QUESTION IS, IS CAN WE RED LINE THIS DOCUMENT IF THIS NUMBER IS INCORRECT OR DO WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT? YEAH, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW IF BRENDA HAVE AN ISSUE.

NO.

IF THEY CAN MAKE THE MOTION THEY CAN MAKE TO ADOPT ORDINANCE WITH THE CORRECTION.

DO WE NEED TO, DO WE NEED TO GO INTO, I MEAN, CLOSED SESSION LATER? IS THERE A CLOSED SESSION ON THE AGENDA? THERE? THERE IS.

SO I'M SAYING SINCE THIS IS ALREADY

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ON THE AGENDA, CAN WE MOVE PAST THIS OR TABLE IT TILL THE END OF THE MEETING? YES SIR.

GIVE THEM TIME TO DEAL WITH THE MATH ISSUE.

YES SIR.

GO THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA AND THEN BRING IT BACK IF THAT'S WHAT THE COURT WANTS TO DO.

IF KIM'S OFFICE ISN'T HERE THOUGH, SHE'S GONNA HAVE TO GO GET THAT SOMEWHERE ELSE.

IF IS THE CLERK OKAY IN THERE? CAN WE JUST MAKE THE MOTION TO STRIKE THROUGH SECTION ONE APPROPRIATIONS AMOUNT THAT SAYS 1 52 1 40 AND SECTION TWO ESTIMATED REVENUES OF 1 52 1 40.

AND CHANGE THAT TO THE 76 0 70 AND MAKE THE MOTION THAT WAY WE, WE CAN, IF WE KNOW THE HARD NUMBER.

I THINK DERMAN FERGUSON'S CONCERN IS, DO WE KNOW THE HARD NUMBER? WE CAN RED LIGHT TONIGHT AND SUBSTITUTE THE NUMBER.

I THINK IT'S 76 0 70, RIGHT? IT'S 76 0 7.

SO THAT'S THE NUMBER.

OKAY.

SO SCHEDULE A UNDER APPROPRIATIONS AND ESTIMATED REVENUE SHOULD BE AMENDED TO THAT 76.

I JUST TO MAKE SURE.

IS THAT, IS THAT THE ONLY CORRECTION? IT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT I SEE AFFECT TOW IN SECTION ONE AND TWO.

YEAH, SECTION ONE AND TWO WOULD OFFSET RENEW AND EXPENSE.

THAT'S, SO THE MOTION WOULD BE TO ADOPT IT SOME WITH, WITH, WITH THAT CORRECTION.

BUT WE CAN, IF YOU'VE GOT IT ELECTRONICALLY WE CAN CHANGE IT REAL QUICK AND PRINT IT.

OBJECTION TO THAT.

OKAY.

SO I'LL TELL YOU WHAT, WE WILL SKIP ITEM NUMBER 32 FOR NOW AND WE WILL

[33. Appointments.]

MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 33 APPOINTMENTS.

DOES THE BOARD HAVE ANY APPOINTMENTS TO MAKE THIS EVENING? I WOULD LIKE TO REAPPOINT KELLY KAISER TO THE ZONING BOARD.

I HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MS. KAISER'S REAPPOINTED.

MADAM CLERK, ALL OF, JUST TO VERIFY ALL OF THE INDIVIDUALS ON THE DANGEROUS DOG BOARD ARE ELIGIBLE FOR REAPPOINTMENT AND INTERESTED, CORRECT? CORRECT.

AND YOU NEED APPOINTMENTS FOR THOSE, RIGHT? PLEASE.

OKAY.

UH, MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO REAPPOINT.

DONNA BAKER, DR.

STEVE TELMA AND DR.

BOBBY RA TO THE DANGEROUS DOG BOARD.

SECOND, HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

A AYE.

ANY OF OPPOSED? OKAY.

THEY'RE ALL REAPPOINTED.

THEY GET IT RIGHT FROM ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.

UH, ATTORNEY'S REPORT, UH, NOTHING REPORT TONIGHT, MAYOR CITY MANAGER'S REPORT A

[35. City Manager's Report.]

FEW THINGS THAT UPDATE YOU OWN, UH, A FEW EVENTS, BOOTS AND BADGE OF SOFTBALL GAME, WHICH WAS CANCELED DUE TO THE WEATHER HAS BEEN RESCHEDULED FOR SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 12TH AT 6:00 PM AT KAFER PARK.

NATIONAL NIGHT OUT WAS ALSO RE RESCHEDULED.

THAT WILL BE HELD AT UNION POINT PARK ON TUESDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH.

THE FOOTLOOSE ON THE NEWS SUMMER CONCERT SERIES FEATURING TELL ME LIES, WAS, WAS CANCELED DUE TO IMPENDING BAD WEATHER, WHICH UNFORTUNATELY NEVER OCCURRED THANKS TO THE WEATHER SERVICE AND, AND, AND SOME LOCAL METEOROLOGIST .

HOWEVER, WE WERE FORTUNATE ENOUGH TO RESCHEDULE THAT CONCERT TO THURSDAY, SEPTEMBER 17TH.

UH, SPECIAL LOCATION, SPECIAL TIME LAWSON CREEK PARK AT 6:30 PM THE RESCHEDULING IS BECAUSE MS. BIKE RIDE IS COMING IN AND SETTING UP, UM, AT THAT TIME.

AND THE FINAL THING IS THE MS BIKE RIDE RETURNS TO NEWBURG AND SEPTEMBER 19TH AND 20TH.

SO WE'RE GONNA HAVE OVER A THOUSAND CYCLISTS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY.

SO MAKE SURE TO OBEY THE RULES OF THE ROAD AND, AND SHARE THE ROAD WITH THOSE CYCLISTS.

UH, ONE FINAL THING.

DURING NEW BUSINESS, WE'D LIKE TO ASK THAT THE BOARD CONSIDER A WORK SESSION FOR TUESDAY, OCTOBER 13TH, BEGINNING AT 1230 TO DISCUSS FERAL CAT POTENTIAL REVENUE BONDS AND A STRATEGIC PLAN UPDATE AS WELL.

SO WE NEED A MOTION TO THAT EFFECT.

SO MOVED? YES, SIR.

SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND AND TO CLARIFY, THAT WILL BE HELD AT CITY HALL.

IT WILL BE AT CITY HALL.

OKAY.

UH, ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE? THAT WAS AT 1230, CORRECT? YES MA'AM.

I'M SURE THE CLERK WILL, I THINK SHE'S ALREADY SENT US A HOLD TO I KNOW.

JUST FOR THE PUBLIC.

YEP.

OKAY.

ANYTHING ELSE, MR. MANAGER? THAT'S IT, SIR.

OKAY.

NEW BUSINESS ALDERMAN

[36. New Business.]

FERGUSON, UH, ES MR. MAYOR, JUST TO ECHO THE CITY MANAGER, UH, BIKE MS ON SEP THAT WEEKEND OF SEPTEMBER 19TH, SOME DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ALONG WITH SWISSAIR AND THE TDA AND THE CHAMBER OF HOSTING A DOWNTOWN BLOCK PARTY TO BRING PEOPLE, UH, DOWNTOWN DURING THAT TIME.

AND SO IT WOULD BE, I THINK A LOT OF FUN WITH SOME MUSIC ON THE STREET AND SHOPS DOING, UH, A COUPLE EXTRA PROMOTIONALS.

UM, SO HOPE FOLKS WILL COME OUT DOWNTOWN FOR THAT WISH TO EVERYONE NEXT WEEK.

A

[01:20:01]

HAPPY CONSTITUTION WEEK, UH, WHICH IS NATIONAL RECOGNITION OF OUR STATE OF OUR, UH, FEDERAL CONSTITUTION, IN PART BECAUSE OF NEWBURN NATIVE, GERTRUDE CAREWAY WHO WAS INSTRUMENTAL IN PUTTING THAT WEEK TOGETHER AND HAVING IT RECOGNIZED BY THEN PRESIDENT EISENHOWER.

UM, AND THEN FINALLY, JUST WANNA THANK CITY STAFF, SPECIFICALLY THE FOLKS IN ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS DEVELOPMENT SERVICES FOR ALL OF THEIR DILIGENT EFFORT ON THE CNI GRANT.

UM, I KNOW THAT THEY SPENT COUNTLESS HOURS AND IT HAS OBVIOUSLY PAID OFF.

AND SO IT'S VERY EXCITING TO SEE THAT LEVEL OF INVESTMENT IN NEW BERN.

AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, MAYOR, IF YOU HAVEN'T WATCHED THE PRESS CONFERENCE, GO READ IT.

I THINK OUR MAYOR DID A GREAT JOB DOING THAT PRESENTATION.

AND, AND ONE POINT THAT HE NOTED IS WE ARE THE SMALLEST CITY IN THE, IN THE COUNTRY TO GET THIS GRANT, WHICH JUST SHOWS, UM, HOW, HOW SPECIAL NEWBURN IS.

SO I JUST WANNA THANK STAFF FOR THEIR HARD WORK ON THAT, GETTING THAT $25 MILLION INVESTMENT.

AND I ECHO THE WOMAN BRYANT THAT I THINK GOT ALMIGHTY FOR THAT INVESTMENT.

THAT'S IT, MR. MAYOR.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU.

ALMAN BRYANT? YES, ON SEPTEMBER THE 17TH, THE CITY MANAGER AND I WILL BE COMING TO WARD TWO.

SO IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS, ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE FOR US, PLEASE COME AND JOIN US.

I WILL BE COMING TO DI DIVA CIRCLE, QUEEN, QUEEN ANNIE LANE, CHITA LANE, OTHER STREETS IN THAT AREA BETWEEN TWO AND THREE 30.

ALSO THE WEST OF NEWBURN, ELIZABETH AVENUE, LONGVIEW AVENUE, PINE TREE AVENUE FROM THREE 30 TO FIVE.

AGAIN, IF YOU'RE HAVING A CONCERN, DON'T WAIT AND GO TO FACEBOOK AND PUT IT UP THERE.

COME TO US AND LET US KNOW YOUR CONCERNS.

ALRIGHT, CIA, TACO.

THANK YOU.

ALDERMAN STER.

YES, MAYOR, THE CITY MANAGER MENTIONED THE $17,500 FROM, UH, MSD TO DO THE SIDEWALK PROJECT DOWN AT UNION POINT PARK.

ACTUALLY, THE COST OF THAT PROJECT IS $35,000.

UH, I HAD, THERE WAS SOME CONCERNS ABOUT SPENDING THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY AND I HAD PLEDGED TO THEM WITH THIS BOARD'S APPROVAL THAT I WOULD TAKE $17,500 OF MY A RP MONEY TO FINISH THAT SIDEWALK PROJECT AT UNION POINT PARK.

SO IS THAT YOUR MOTION? THAT IS, BUT I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER ONE I WANT TO ASK AS WELL.

UM, JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE THAT TO DATE, THE UH, TNR PROGRAM HAS HAS, UM, CAPTURED, UH, TRAP NEUTERED AND RELEASED 3,551 CATS.

UH, THEY HAVE A 110 APPOINTMENTS WITHIN IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS AND THEY ARE WORKING REAL HARD SEVEN AREAS INSIDE THE CITY LIMITS OF NEWBURG.

SO I WOULD LIKE TO ALSO USE $2,000 OF A RP FUNDS TO HELP WITH VET BILLS AND THOSE, UM, 110 APPOINTMENTS THEY HAVE IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS TO SPAY AND NEUTER FERAL CATS.

SECOND.

OKAY, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND, UM, ON THE SECOND PIECE.

MS. OSRAM, ARE YOU GOOD WITH WHO THAT MONEY'S GOING TO? IT'S GOING, DID I TELL YOU WHO IT WAS TO? I THINK IT WAS THE SAME.

YOU, IT'S THE SAME ONE THAT YOU HAD BEFORE, CORRECT? I THINK IT IS.

IT IS.

UM, HELPING CATS INCORPORATED.

OKAY.

HELPING CATS.

THAT'S CORRECT.

YEAH.

OKAY.

SO WE HAVE A MOTION FROM ALDERMAN ASTOR WITH A SECOND FROM ALDERMAN FERGUSON FOR $17,500 FOR WARD THREE ARPA ENABLED FUNDS FOR THE SIDEWALK AT UNION POINT PARK AND 2000 FOR THE T AND R PROJECT.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

ANYTHING ELSE SIR? NO, THANK YOU.

ALRIGHT, AL WHITE.

UM, THANK YOU MAYOR.

THE NEXT RESIDENCE COUNCIL FOR WARD FOUR WILL BE HELD ON OCTOBER 3RD AT 6:00 PM AT, UM, HJ MCDONALD.

AND WE ARE GOING TO ADDRESS DRAINAGE ISSUES.

UH, THAT WILL BE THE MAIN TOPIC AT OUR INTERVIEW, I MEAN, AT OUR MEETING.

AND I WAS ALSO AT THE PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY AND, UM, I AGREED THE MAYOR DID GREAT.

THERE WAS AN ERROR OF JUBILATION, SO THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

VERY GOOD.

I'LL RUN BEST.

YES.

UM, THE MLK UM, BOULEVARD PAVEN PROJECT, IS THAT A PROJECT THAT WAS DONE BY N-C-D-O-T OR THE CITY? I'VE HAD CITIZENS ASK.

THAT WAS N-C-D-O-T.

OKAY.

N-C-D-O-T.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

YES, MA'AM.

UM, AND THEN I HAVE ANOTHER

[01:25:01]

ANNOUNCEMENT.

UM, THE WEST STREET SOCIETY FOR HISTORIC PRESERVATION, UM, WILL BE HAVING A TOWN HALL MEETING, UM, SEPTEMBER THE 14TH, 2026 FROM SIX TO 9:00 PM AT THE STANLEY, A WHITE REC CENTER OVER ON THIRD AVENUE, UM, THE WEST STREET SOCIETY.

THEY WILL BE SHARING HISTORY AND A DISCUSSION OF THE HISTORIC WEST STREET SCHOOL.

A LOT OF YOU KNOW IT AS FFR DANIELS SCHOOL, BUT THAT TOWN HALL MEETING, THEY WILL BE SHARING HISTORY ON THAT SCHOOL.

UM, IT'S AN EDUCATIONAL GATHERING TO SHARE FACTS ABOUT PRESERVING OUR HISTORIC WEST STREET SCHOOL AND BUILDING OUR AFRICAN AMERICAN MUSEUM.

AGAIN, THAT IS SEPTEMBER 14TH.

IT'S A CITYWIDE EVENT.

IT'S A TOWN HALL MEETING AT STANLEY WHITE FROM SIX TO 9:00 PM THANK YOU.

THANK YOU.

AND THAT'S IT.

ALRIGHT, ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

UM, I'D LIKE TO REQUEST FROM THE FOUR APPROVAL OF, UH, $4,000 IN A RP FUNDING FOR A FLASHING SPEED LIMIT SIGN ON GLENBURN.

HAVE A MOTION.

DO WE HAVE A SECOND? SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? MOTION CARRIES.

MAYOR, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO COMMENT ON AND CONGRATULATE STAFF, LATE OFFICIALS, UH, THE CITIZENS AND PRIMARILY, I I REALLY WANT TO THANK THE CITIZENS' INPUT.

UH, FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THIS, UH, CNI IMPLEMENTATION APPROVAL STARTED WITH A $400,000 GRANT TO GET A CNI STUDY DONE.

AND FROM ABOUT 2013 TO 14, UH, THE STUDY, UH, THE RESEARCH WAS COMPLETED, CONDUCTED IN MANY PUBLIC MEETINGS, A LOT OF CITIZEN INPUT.

UM, A LOT OF THINGS WE LEARNED ABOUT THE CITY DURING THAT TIME, UM, FROM A LOT OF DIFFERENT, SO WE WERE, WE WERE TOLD WHEN WE WERE AWARDED THE, THE CNI RESEARCH GRANT, YOU MIGHT CALL IT, UM, THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SIGNAL YOU'RE GONNA GET AN IMPLEMENTATION.

UM, BECAUSE I THINK AS THE MAYOR, UM, MENTIONED TODAY DURING THE CONFERENCE, THE, THE, UH, CITIES LIKE LOS ANGELES AND BIG CITIES NORMALLY GET THAT GRANT.

SO TO BRING THAT HOME TO THE CITY OF NEW BERN, UH, A LOT OF, A LOT OF FOLKS WORK REALLY HARD ON THAT.

AND I WANT TO THANK EVERYBODY FOR WHAT THEY DID.

AND I'M VERY PROUD THAT THE CITY IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT TYPE OF, UH, CAPITAL IMPROVEMENT AND A LOT OF THINGS COME WITH IT THAT'S GOING TO BE REALLY, REALLY GOOD FOR OUR CITY.

ALRIGHT, THANK YOU SIR.

UM, TWO THINGS.

UM, ALDERMAN FERGUSON, I FORGOT TO MENTION THIS TO YOU.

UM, IT'S NOTHING BAD.

UM, THERE'S SOME CONFUSION AMONGST SOME OF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ABOUT THE TRICK OR TREAT ON HALLOWEEN NIGHT.

TYPICALLY, STREETS ARE CLOSED AND BUSINESSES HAND OUT CANDY THE CITY FOR YEARS.

I THINK NOW THEY'VE PUT ON SOME EVENTS AT UNION POINT PARK AND THE CITY HANDS OUT CANDY.

AND I THINK THERE'S SOME CONFUSION THAT THE CITY'S NOT SUPPORTING THE CLOSING OF THE STREETS, BUT WE HAVEN'T RECEIVED DOWN STREET.

YEAH, SO THIS CAME UP AT THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESS COUNCIL MEETING LAST, OR I THINK TWO WEEKS AGO OR WHATEVER THE LAST MEETING WAS.

AND WE'VE HEARD MIXED REVIEWS FROM DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ABOUT THE DOWNTOWN TRICK OR TREATING.

UM, AND THIS YEAR THE CITY'S HOSTING A A PARKS AND REC EVENT AT UNION POINT PARK ON HALLOWEEN.

AND SO THE QUESTION WAS POSED TO DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES FROM, UM, THEIR ELECTED FOLKS, THEIR, THEIR FOLKS, NOT ME, UM, THAT THEY ASKED WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN DOING DOWNTOWN TRICK OR TREATING THIS YEAR.

UM, AND SO I THINK A SURVEY WENT OUT TO THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ALL THROUGH DOWNTOWN BUSINESS COUNCIL, UM, TO SEE WHAT THE LEVEL OF INTEREST IS.

AND THEN THIS MEETING IN SEPTEMBER, THEY WILL DISCUSS THAT AND THEN TRY TO GET ROAD, IF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES WANT TO DO TRICK OR TREATING, THEY WILL GET ROAD CLOSURE FOR OUR OCTOBER MEETING, OCTOBER 13TH, WHICH SHOULD BE ENOUGH TIME.

UM, BUT FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, TALKING TO BUSINESSES, THERE IS NOT A INTEREST TO DO THAT THIS YEAR.

UM, BUT THE CITY HAS HISTORICALLY, AND AND FOSTER, PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, THE THE CITY HASN'T REALLY HOSTED THAT.

THAT IS A DOWNTOWN BUSINESS COUNCIL EVENT.

THE CITY SUPPORTS IT BY CLOSING STREETS.

BUT WE DO THAT, AS YOU ALL KNOW, BY REQUEST

[01:30:01]

FOR THOSE EVENTS.

UM, THAT HAS NOT BEEN REQUESTED YET BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THERE IS A INTEREST WITH THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES DOING THAT.

AND JUST TO ADD, OF THE LAST FEW YEARS, BARRY MARY, WHEN THEY WERE MORE ACTIVE WITH YEAR ROUND ACTIVITIES, THEY DID COORDINATE THAT.

AND, AND SO IF THE DOWNTOWN BUSINESSES ARE INTERESTED IN HELPING THE CITIES OUT, OBVIOUSLY WILLING TO HELP THEM OUT.

THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION.

UM, I WON'T BELEAGUER THE POINT, UM, ABOUT THE CNI GRANT, BUT IT WAS, UM, DEFINITELY A VERY SPECIAL DAY.

UH, WE HAD THE PRESS CONFERENCE TODAY, BUT WORD GOT OUT LAST WEEK A LITTLE EARLY.

UM, BUT IT, IT IS ESPECIALLY, UM, IT, IT, IT'S A, A VERY SPECIAL EVENT TO TAKE PLACE FOR THE CITY.

AS, AS ALDERMAN OUTLAW MENTIONED.

UM, NOBODY EVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS PROGRAM HAS RECEIVED A GRANT, THE CITY OF OUR SIZE.

UM, A LOT OF WORK WENT INTO THAT.

UM, I'M SURE THERE'LL BE DISCUSSION AND DEBATE OVER THE COMING MONTHS AND YEARS ABOUT THIS.

BUT, UH, AS I SAID TODAY, WE DIDN'T GET THIS GRANT BY HAPPENSTANCE.

WE GOT THIS GRANT BY A LOT OF WORK, BY A LOT OF DIFFERENT PEOPLE, UM, WHO HAD THE INTESTINAL FORTITUDE TO SEE THE VISION AND MAKE IT HAPPEN.

UM, THERE HAVE BEEN CHANGES IN STAFF WITHIN THE CITY OF NEW BERN THAT ALLOWED THIS TO HAPPEN.

THERE'S BEEN CHANGES AT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, UM, THAT AT THE TIME MAYBE WASN'T SO POPULAR WITH SOME APPOINTMENTS THAT HAD BEEN MADE.

UM, BUT THIS WOULD NOT HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THAT.

THIS ALSO WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED WITHOUT THIS BOARD PLEDGING THE FINANCIAL AND INKIND SUPPORT TO MAKE US SCORE SO HIGH ON THAT SHEET.

BECAUSE THE CITY OF OUR SIZE, YOU KNOW, IF WE WOULD'VE SAID, WELL, WE'LL WE'LL THROW A MILLION DOLLARS AT THIS PROJECT.

WE MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN THAT PROJECT, BUT, BUT THE COMMITMENT THAT THIS BOARD MADE CERTAINLY HELPED US GET THERE.

AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, GO BACK TO WHEN ALDERMAN OUTLAW WAS MAYOR OUTLAW, THE CITY HIRED A LOBBYIST.

UM, WE TOOK SOME GRIEF OVER THAT, BUT THAT LOBBYIST AT THE TIME UNDER THE, I CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH ADMINISTRATION IT WAS, I BELIEVE IT WAS, UM, MAYBE IT WAS A PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION IN WASHINGTON DC AND IT HELPED LAY THE GROUNDWORK.

I'VE BEEN TO DC I THINK THREE TIMES TO HELP ADVOCATE ON THIS BEHALF.

BUT THIS GRANT CAME TO US BY WAY OF A LOT OF YEARS OF WORK.

UM, AND A LOT OF, A LOT OF BLOOD, SWEAT AND TEARS.

SO I APPRECIATE THIS BOARD SPECIFICALLY FOR STEPPING UP WHEN THE MANAGER ASKED US BECAUSE HE WASN'T SO SURE ABOUT IT.

I DON'T KNOW IF HE'LL ADMIT THAT TO YOU, BUT HE, HE WASN'T SO SURE IF WE'RE GONNA COMMIT THAT KIND OF, UM, MONEY AND DOLLARS TOWARD THIS.

BUT, UH, THIS BOARD DID AND IT CERTAINLY PAID OFF.

AND WE'LL SEE THIS, THIS IS A GENERATIONAL CHANGE FOR THE CITY OF WEAVER.

SO THANK YOU ALL.

OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON TO

[37. Request and Petition of Citizens — General Topics.]

REQUEST AND PETITION OF CITIZENS FOR GENERAL TOPICS.

MADAM CLERK, DO WE HAVE ANY TONIGHT? ALRIGHT, REMEMBER ME AGAIN.

UM, HOLD ON, HOLD ON JUST A MINUTE.

MR. BUFFET, I'M ASSUMING THIS IS YOU 'CAUSE YOU'RE THE ONLY ONE.

OH, OH, OKAY.

UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY VALERIE BEST WELCOME.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I AM VALERIE, BEST OF EPHESUS SEVENTH ADV ADVENTIST CHURCH.

AND WE ARE LOCATED AT 1120 COLONY DRIVE.

SO WE'RE IN WARD FOUR.

SO I LOOK FORWARD TO CONNECTING WITH OUR ALDER WOMAN THAT REPRESENTS THAT PARTICULAR AREA.

I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE ARE ALIVE AND WELL IN THE COMMUNITY.

WE HAD A FOOD GIVEAWAY AND WE HAD A BACKPACK EVENT AND WE SERVED ABOUT A HUNDRED FAMILIES.

ON AUGUST THE NINTH, WE HAD AN EVANGELISTIC MEETING AND WE SERVED 238 PEOPLE.

WOW.

WE PROVIDED FOOD, WE PROVIDED GAS CARDS, WE PROVIDED, UH, WALMART CARDS FOR THE COMMUNITY, AND WE PROVIDED FREE SNEAKERS TO FAMILIES.

WE HAD A SNEAKER DRIVE.

WE HAD SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE REPRESENTED THERE FROM ALL ETHNIC GROUPS AND IT WAS A WONDERFUL THING.

SO WE JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE ARE ACTIVE AND WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THOSE MEETINGS.

WE FOCUSED ON FAMILY AND PERSONAL WELLNESS AND PARENT AND CHILDREN'S PERSONAL GROWTH, PHYSICAL AND MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL WELLNESS.

AND WE ARE FOLLOWING UP WITH THIS, CONNECTING WITH THE SAME FAMILIES

[01:35:01]

AND OPENING IT UP ON OCTOBER THE SEVENTH THROUGH THE 17TH.

WE WILL BE ADDRESSING THE SAME FOCUS WITH PHYSICAL AND MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL AND SPIRITUAL GROWTH FOR THE COMMUNITY.

AND WE JUST WANTED YOU TO KNOW WE WERE HERE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUOUSLY WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

NEXT IS MR. PHIL BUFFET.

I DID A LIFETIME IN PUBLIC SERVICE AND MANY OF THE OTHER THINGS, BUT TWO THINGS I LEARNED IN PUBLIC SERVICE.

BEST PART IS WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE.

WORST PART IS WORKING WITH THE PEOPLE.

OKAY? UM, EVERYBODY WANTS TO DO YOUR JOB IN THE CITY UNTIL IT BECOMES TOO COLD, TOO HOT, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH.

SO FIRST OF ALL, ON A BROADER SCOPE, THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS HAS BEEN HOT AS HADES.

OKAY? 80, 90, A HUNDRED DEGREES, 110 DEGREES.

OKAY? SO, UM, I WANT TO THANK EVERY DEPARTMENT IN THE CITY, ALL THE EMPLOYEES, POLICE, FIRE, AND EVERYBODY ELSE FOR DOING THEIR JOB.

OKAY? UM, YEAH, YOU GOTTA DO YOUR JOB, BUT IT'S BRUTAL OUT THERE.

AND A LOT OF PEOPLE NOW WILL GO, WHY WE DO THAT? WAIT UNTIL IT GETS 70.

EVERYBODY WANTS THEIR JOB, OKAY? BUT SPECIFICALLY IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS, UM, THE PUBLIC WORK, UM, I'M SORRY, THE ELECTRICAL DEPARTMENT, PEOPLE HAVE COME INTO BRYCE'S CREEK HARBOR AND ON ONE DAY WHEN THE HEAT INDEX WAS 107, 108, THEY WERE UP 35 FEET IN THE AIR CHANGING A LITTLE TINY LIGHT BULB IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, OKAY? AND THEY WENT AROUND AND IT WAS SHUT AND CHANGING A LOT OF THE LIGHT BULBS IN CRISIS CREEK HARBOR.

YEAH, THEY GOTTA DO THAT.

BUT WHEN I ASKED THEM, HEY GUYS, YOU NEED WATER, WHATEVER.

AND THEY WERE LIKE, OH NO, WE'RE GOOD SIR.

THANK YOU.

YOU KNOW, THEY DIDN'T MOAN, COMPLAIN OR ANYTHING THAT IT WAS A HUNDRED DEGREES OUT AND I JUST THOUGHT ONE, YEAH, THEY'RE DOING THEIR JOB.

TWO, THEY HAD A GREAT ATTITUDE.

SO I HOPE YOU PASS THIS ALONG TO THE ELECTRICAL DEPARTMENT, THAT THOSE GUYS MORE THAN DID THEIR JOB.

IT WAS JUST KIND OF LIKE A SERVICE.

UH, THIS IS WHAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO.

I DON'T CARE IF IT WAS 50 DEGREES OR 110 DEGREES.

SO I WANT TO THANK THEM PERSONALLY, UM, FOR THAT.

AND THEY CHANGED A LOT OF THE LIGHT BULBS IN THE COMMUNITY.

OKAY.

THANK YOU.

THANK YOU, THANK YOU.

OKAY, BOARD.

SO WE'LL CIRCLE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 32.

UH, I BELIEVE THE ASSISTANT MANAGER HAS CIRCULATED AN UPDATED, UH, FORM TO US.

SO WHAT IS THE PLEASURE OF THE BOARD ON ITEM NUMBER 32? MR. MAYOR, I MOVE TO ADOPT THE BUDGET ORDINANCE AMENDMENT AS PRESENTED THREE MINUTES AGO BY THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER THAT REFLECTS THE CORRECT NUMBER FROM THE GENERAL FUND FOR THE POLICE VEHICLES.

SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE? LET'S HAVE A ROLL CALL STARTING WITH ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

ALDERMAN FERGUSON.

YES.

ALDERMAN BRYANT.

YES.

ALDERMAN ASTOR.

YES.

ALDERMAN WHITE.

YES.

ALDERMAN BEST? YES.

ALDERMAN OUTLAW.

YES.

MAYOR ODOM.

YES.

MOTION CARRIES.

UH, DO WE

[38. Closed Session.]

NEED A CLOSED SESSION? UH, YES, SIR.

UM, YOU NEED TO DISCUSS SEVERAL MATTERS WITH YOU.

UH, FIRST PURSUANT TO 1 43, 3 18, 11.

UM, A FOUR TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL ECONOMIC, UH, DEVELOPMENT INCENTIVE.

UM, AND THEN SECONDLY, UM, PURSUANT TO 1 43, UH, 3 18 11 A FIVE, THE POTENTIAL ACQUISITION OF REAL PROPERTY AND PURSUANT TO 1 43, UH, 3 18 11 A THREE.

TO MAINTAIN OUR ATTORNEY-CLIENT PRIVILEGE, HAVE A MOTION.

PLEASE MOVE, GO INTO, UH, CLOSED SESSION.

SECOND.

HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.

IS THERE FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WE'RE GONNA CLOSE SESSION.

NONE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

A.

AYE.

ANY OPPOSED? WE'RE CLOSE.

THANK.