[I. CALL TO ORDER ]
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WELCOME EVERYBODY.I'M HERE TO CALL TO ORDER THE SEPTEMBER 17TH MEETING OF THE CITY OF NEW BERN PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
WOULD YOU ALL PLEASE JOIN ME IN A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF OUR COUNTRY, A PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.
NOLA, CAN I GET A ROLL CALL PLEASE? MARGO SPER PRESENT.
DANIELLE PEOPLES, LET THE RECORD SHOW DANIELLE PEOPLES IS ABSENT.
LET THE RECORD SHOW MARSHALL BALLARD IS ABSENT.
MR. CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE A QUORUM.
[IV. APPROVE AGENDA ]
PLEASURE OF THE BOARD? FOR THE APPROVAL OF THE AGENDA? MAKE A MOTION.WE APPROVE THE AGENDA AS SUBMITTED.
THE SECOND I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
[V. CHAIRMAN’S REMARKS ]
NEXT TIME.UH, FIRST I'D WANT TO JUST OPEN AND SAY THANKS EVERYBODY FOR COMING.
UH, EVERYBODY THAT'S IN THE COURTROOM AND EVERYBODY OUTSIDE OF THE COURTROOM AND EVERYBODY DOWNSTAIRS.
UM, I'M GLAD THE PUBLIC, UM, IS HERE AND ARE INVOLVED AND WANT TO BE INVOLVED.
UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT I WANNA BE HERE TILL MIDNIGHT, BUT I AM PREPARED TO, UM, EVERYBODY GETS THREE MINUTES.
SO, UM, WE DON'T ANTICIPATE ANY ISSUES, UH, WITH CIVILITY.
HOWEVER, UM, IF YOU COME UP HERE AND ARE, UM, UH, ACTING IN AN UNNECESSARILY UNRULY FASHION, I WILL ASK THE POLICE TO MAKE YOU LEAVE.
UM, BUT WE'RE ALL CIVILIANS UP HERE.
WE'RE HERE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF ALMAN.
UM, SO PLEASE KEEP YOUR COMMENTS CIVIL AND ON TASK AND, UH, EVERYBODY GETS THREE MINUTES.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO
[VI. DIRECTOR’S REMARKS ]
MS. JESSICA ROOF FOR HER DIRECTOR'S REMARKS.JEFFERSON, CAN YOU ALL IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM HEAR ME OKAY.
RAISE YOUR HAND IF YOU CAN HEAR.
AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING.
UH, WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING OF THE NEW CITY OF NEW BERN PLANNING AND ZONING WHERE WE MEET EVERY MONTH.
THIS IS THE LARGEST GROUP WE'VE HAD IN QUITE SOME TIME, SO THE CHAIRMAN HAS ASKED ME TO GIVE A LITTLE BACKGROUND INFORMATION, PROVIDE SOME INTRODUCTION FROM THE STAFF, AND WALK THROUGH A COUPLE OF PROCESSES THAT ARE RUNNING SIMULTANEOUSLY RIGHT NOW FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE AUDIENCE.
I AM THE DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
I HAVE SERVED IN THE ROLE WITH THE CITY OF NEWBURGH SINCE JANUARY OF 2023.
PRIOR TO THAT, I HAVE SERVED SIMILAR POSITIONS IN, UH, ENCLO COUNTY AND PENDER COUNTY AND FOR THE COUNTY OF ATLANTIC BEACH WITH ME THIS EVENING, I HAVE MR. ROBERT GOFF.
MR. ROBERT GOFF IS THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
HE IS GOING TO PRESENT ME PRESENTING THE FIRST CASE THIS EVENING.
MANY OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN WITH HIM ON THE PHONE OR COMMUNICATED WITH HIM WITH HIM VIA EMAIL LATELY.
HE, UM, IS GOING TO BE HANDLING THAT CASE.
HE ALSO FIELDS MANY OF OUR QUESTIONS IN OUR OFFICE AND OVERSEES OUR LAND USE STAFF.
ALSO WITH US THIS EVENING IN THE CORNER, MR. HENDRICK STANTON, HE IS OUR ZONING ADMINISTRATOR.
MR. STANTON OVERSEES OUR BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
HE HAS PREVIOUSLY OVERSEEN THIS BOARD WITH PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
HE IS GOING TO BE PRESENTING OUR SECOND CASE THIS EVENING.
ALSO WITH US ON OUR STAFF THIS EVENING IS MS. NOLA ROBERTS.
SHE ALSO PROVIDES COORDINATION AND OVERSIGHT TO THIS BOARD, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD.
SO I KNOW MANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN COMMUNICATING WITH HER AS WELL.
ADDITIONALLY, WE HAVE MS. JAMIE BULLOCK WITH US THIS EVENING.
SHE IS ONE OF THE CITY OF NEW YORK'S ATTORNEYS AND SHE SERVES AS LEGAL COUNSEL TO THIS BOARD.
AND IN THE BACK OF THE ROOM, I HAVE MS. ABBY MCLAY.
UH, SHE WORKS WITH THE CRAVEN COUNTY MPO.
AND THAT, OF COURSE, IF YOU ARE UNAWARE, IS THE ORGANIZATION THAT SERVES AS A LIAISON BETWEEN LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND THE N-C-D-O-T.
WE HAVE SEVERAL ZONING DISTRICTS THAT DEPEND
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ON ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE AND MS. MCCLAY ISS HERE BECAUSE THE FIRST CASE WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS TONIGHT, UH, SHE'S GONNA BE DISCUSSING THE THE 43 CONNECTOR FILE BECAUSE IT IS RELEVANT TO THAT REQUEST.UM, THE STAFF MEMBERS I JUST INTRODUCED, UH, IT IS NOT THEIR ROLE TO PROVIDE A RECOMMENDATION.
THEIR ROLE IS TO PROVIDE THE APPLICABLE, UM, KNOWLEDGE AND PLAN AND OTHER SUPPORTING DOCUMENTS TO HELP THIS BOARD RETAKE DECISION ON WHETHER OR NOT A REQUESTED ZONING CHANGE IS CONSISTENT OR INCONSISTENT WITH OUR ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN.
IF YOU HAVE NOT DONE SO, THERE ARE SOME SIGN IN SHEETS UP HERE.
UH, THAT IS NOT A COMMITMENT TO SPEAK THIS EVENING THAT IS SINGLE YOUR RECORD OF YOUR ATTENDANCE.
MANY TIMES PEOPLE POSE QUESTIONS TO THE BOARD AND TO STAFF DURING THESE TYPES OF HEARINGS.
UM, AND WHEN WE HAVE YOUR PHONE NUMBER AND YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS, WE ARE ABLE TO REACH BACK OUT TO YOU AND ANSWER QUESTIONS THAT MAY NOT HAVE ANSWERED THIS EVENING.
I SEE MANY, MANY NEW FACES I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH IN THE ROOM, SO I WOULD LIKE TO CALL YOUR ATTENTION TO A FEW LOGISTIC SWINGS.
THE RESTROOMS ARE OUT THE DOOR, TURN RIGHT AT THE END OF A HALLWAY.
PLEASE FEEL FREE TO LEAVE THE MEETING AT ANY TIME.
WE DO ASK THAT IF YOU LEAVE IN A GROUP THAT YOU DO NOT CONGREGATE OUT IN THIS LOBBY, THE NOISE, UM, CARRIES IN THIS OLD HISTORIC BUILDING AND IT INTERFERES WITH OUR RECORDING AND OTHER PEOPLE'S ABILITY TO HEAR.
AND NEXT THING, YOU GOT A CELL PHONE ON YOUR PLEASE FILE IN IT.
UM, IF AS WELL JUST TAKE A MOMENT AND CHECK FOR THAT, THAT CAN BECOME VERY DISTRACTING IN MEETINGS.
SO I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO GIVE SOME SPEAKING GUIDELINES.
I KNOW SOMETIMES, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKING CAN BE NERVE, NERVE WRACKING FOR FOLKS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.
SO AS WITH ALL REZONINGS, THERE'S GOING TO BE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO COMMENT ON EACH OF THE THREE CASES.
YOU MUST SPEAK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THE CASE BEING HEARD AT THE TIME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO THE BOARD.
UH, OUR MICROPHONE HERE IS ADJUSTABLE.
UH, SO YOU CAN, AND PLEASE SPEAK CLEARLY INTO IT.
WE CANNOT ALLOW YOU TO SPEAK OR PROVIDE COMMENTS FROM YOUR SEAT.
WE NEED YOUR COMMENTS TO BE UP HERE SO THEY ARE CAPTURED.
SO THOSE WATCHING AT HOME CAN HEAR WHAT YOU HAVE TO SAY AS WELL AND INCORPORATED INTO PART OF THE RECORD.
IF YOU AGREE WITH SOMEBODY THAT'S ALREADY SPOKEN, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO SIMPLY STATE.
I AGREE WITH WHAT THIS PERSON HAS SAID, AND SIT BACK NOW, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ELECT SOMEBODY TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF A GROUP OF FOLKS THAT SHARE THE SAME OPINIONS, YOU ARE MORE THAN WELCOME TO DO THAT AS WELL.
AND I THINK, UH, WITH TONIGHT'S ATTENDANCE, THE BOARD WOULD PROBABLY APPRECIATE THAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS GOING TO BE MOST INTERESTED IN THE COMMENTS YOU HAVE THAT RELATE TO HOW THE REQUESTED ZONING REQUESTS, UH, INTERFACE WITH OUR ADOPTED LAND PLAN.
YOU MAY SPEAK TO ANYTHING WOULD LIKE ABOUT THE PARCEL BEING DISCUSSED, BUT THAT IS WHAT THE BOARD IS GOING TO BE MOST INTERESTED IN TONIGHT BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONLY INFORMATION THEY ARE ALLOWED TO CONSIDER WHEN THEY MAKE THEIR RECOMMENDATION.
UM, NEXT THING I'VE BEEN ASKED TO MAKE EVERYONE AWARE OF IS THIS BOARD IS NOT GOING TO PARTICIPATE IN DIALOGUE WITH THE AUDIENCE.
UH, I'M MENTIONING THAT, UH, IT'S VERY HARD TO CAPTURE AND SOMETIMES FOLKS, IT IT FEELS VERY IMPERSONAL WHEN THEY'RE MAKING QUESTIONS OR MAKING COMMENTS OR ASKING QUESTIONS.
AND THERE IS NOT A BACK AND FORTH.
WE WILL RESPOND TO THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU POSE.
THE STAFF WILL, UM, VIA THE CONTACT INFORMATION YOU HAVE LEFT WITH US.
OFTENTIMES AT THE END OF EACH CASE, THE BOARD WILL DIRECT THE APPLICANT TO COME ADDRESS WHAT THEY'RE COMFORTABLE ADDRESSING AND YOUR QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS.
AND THEY OFTEN DO THAT AND ARE ABLE TO SPEAK TO DIFFERENT THINGS ABOUT A CERTAIN PIECE OF LAND THAT THE BOARD CANNOT LEGALLY SPEAK TO.
SO THAT IS THE BENEFIT IN THAT PRACTICE.
NEXT THING WE HAVE, UH, TRYING SOME NEW TECHNOLOGY TONIGHT.
IF YOU TAKE THIS AND SCAN YOUR PHONE ON IT, IT WILL BRING YOU RIGHT TO THIS PRESENTATION.
IT IS ON THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES WEBSITE UNDER OUR MEETING MATERIALS.
AND THAT'S WHERE THAT CODE WILL PEAK YOU.
I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE WE DO RECOGNIZE IT'S VERY DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO SEE BACKS UP ON THESE SCREENS.
I WILL ALSO NOTICE FOR ANYONE NOTE ANYONE WATCHING THIS, UM, THERE IS A CAPACITY CROWD THIS EVENING.
WE ARE AWARE THERE ARE SOME FOLKS DOWNSTAIRS THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE PARTICIPATING.
THIS MEETING IS BROADCAST LIVE OR A 32ND DELAY, I BELIEVE, ON YOUTUBE.
SO YOU ARE ABLE TO WATCH NOT FROM THIS ROOM
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UP HERE AS WELL.THIS IS THE SECTION OF OUR LAND USE ORDINANCE THAT SHOWS EACH ZONING DISTRICT AND EACH USE THAT IS ALLOWED IN THAT ZONING DISTRICT.
IF YOU WOULD LIKE A COPY OF THIS, WE, YOU CAN COME UP AND GET ONE OR SO.
WE ARE NOT GONNA BE FLASHING UP ON THE SCREEN.
OFTENTIMES WHEN WE HAVE REZONING REQUESTS, WE PUT A SIDE BY SIDE TABLE THAT'S A SAMPLING, PREPARING THE USES BETWEEN DISTRICTS.
WE DID NOT DO THAT THIS EVENING.
WE ALL, WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THE DEFINITIONS OF THE DISTRICTS, BUT THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL NEED TO REFER TO TO SEE.
IF YOU LOOK AT THIS CHART, A Z MEANS THAT IS ALLOWED, OH, YOU SAID IS ALLOWED BY RIGHT.
AND AN S MEANS IT IS A USE THAT IS ALLOWED WITH A SPECIAL USE PERMIT FROM THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT.
SO I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT QUICKLY ABOUT WHAT THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY IS IN IS TONIGHT AND WHAT THEY DO.
THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD IS AN ADVISORY BOARD.
THEY ARE APPOINTED INTO THIS POSITION BY YOUR BOARD OF ALDERMAN, YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS.
SEVEN OF THESE MEMBERS ARE APPOINTED THROUGH THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN, AND AN EIGHTH MEMBER IS ELECTED BY THE, OR APPOINTED BY THE COUNTY COMMISSIONERS TO SERVE AS REPRESENT REPRESENTATION IN OUR DT.
IT TAKES A QUORUM OF FIVE FOLKS TO DO BUSINESS OF THAT BOARD, AND WE DO HAVE, UH, FIVE MEMBERS PRESENT THIS EVENING AS THE CHAIRMAN.
THE BOARD'S RESPONSIBILITY WHEN HEARING THESE REQUESTS IS TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN WHETHER THEY FEEL OUR ADOPTIVE LAND USE PLAN SUPPORTS THE REQUESTED CHANGE IN ZONING AND WHETHER THEY FEEL THAT IT'S REASONABLE BASED ON THAT PLAN.
A LAND USE PLAN IS NOTHING MORE THAN A FUTURE LAND USE GUIDE.
ALL JURISDICTIONS IN CAAMA COUNTIES FOR THAT FALL UNDER THE AL AREA MANAGEMENT ACT ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE A LAND USE PLAN.
AND ALL, UH, CITIES MORE RECENTLY AND COUNTIES THAT ENFORCED ZONING PROGRAMS ARE REQUIRED TO HAVE ONE OF THESE PLANS.
THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT DESCRIBES A MODERNIZED PLAN, AN APPLICABLE PLAN AS ONE THAT HAS BEEN DESIGNED WITHIN THE LAST 10 YEARS.
OUR PLAN WAS ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY BY OUR BOARD ALDERMAN IN JUNE OF 2022.
UM, ONE THING THAT IS VERY RELEVANT THIS EVENING, THE PLANNING AND ZONING BOARD HAS TO MAKE THIS RECOMMENDATION.
HOWEVER, THE REQUIREMENT BY LAW IS THAT THE PLAN IS REFERENCED AND LOOKED AT.
THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN HAVE THE FINAL AUTHORITY OF ALL ZONING DECISIONS.
THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN DOES NOT HAVE TO FOLLOW THE RECOMMENDATION OF THE PLANNING BOARD.
THEY SIMPLY HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE PLANNING ZONING BOARD EVALUATED THE CONSISTENCY WITH THE PLAN.
SO WHAT TYPICALLY HAPPENS IS ONCE SOMETHING IS RECOMMENDED BY THIS BOARD, WE WILL CALL FOR A PUBLIC HEARING ON A DATE, THE BOARD OF ALL.
SO CHOOSE, AND THEN WE WILL REPLICATE THE NOTIFICATION PROCESS THAT HAPPENED FOR THIS MEETING UNDER GENERAL STATUTES CONTAINED IN, UH, ONE 60 D, WHICH CONTAINS ALL NOTIFICATION IN ALL LAND ALL'S POLICIES FOR COUNTIES IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA.
SO IF YOU RECEIVE A LETTER ABOUT THIS EVENING'S MEETING, YOU WILL RECEIVE ANOTHER LETTER WHEN THIS MOVES ON TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN FOR THE FINAL DECISION IN THE PUBLIC HEARING.
TONIGHT IS SIMPLY PUBLIC COMMENT BECAUSE WE HAVE MULTIPLE PROCESSES HAPPENING AT THE SAME TIME.
I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO CALL TO YOUR ATTENTION SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THIS BOARD IS NOT GOING TO BE CONSIDERING IN THEIR DECISION THIS EVENING.
THIS BOARD IS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR CONSIDERING ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS, ELECTRICITY, WATER, SEWER, SITE, AMENITIES, LIGHTING, BUFFERING, SETBACKS, BUILDING HEIGHT OR STORMWATER.
I AM VERY MINDFUL THERE ARE SIMULTANEOUS PLANNING EFFORTS GOING ON RIGHT NOW.
SO I WANTED TO CALL THAT TO YOUR ATTENTION.
UH, IT'S NOT THAT THOSE THINGS ARE NOT LOOKED AT OR PLANNED FOR, THEY ARE NOT, THEY ARE DONE THROUGH OTHER CHANNELS FROM OTHER BOARDS AND THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT REVIEW COMMITTEE.
SO THE, THE, THE BOARD OF ERMAN WILL BE THE ONES THAT WILL CONSIDER ALL THINGS ABOUT THE REZONING AND ALSO INDEPENDENTLY.
THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR APPROVING AFTER A PUBLIC HEARING, UH, ANY DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS.
AND THERE ARE SOME OF THOSE TRACKING RIGHT NOW INDEPENDENTLY TO THE, THE REQUEST FOR CHANGE VOTING.
I COVERED A LOT OF COMPLICATED LAND USE LAW.
LAND USE LAW SEEMS TO CHANGE OVERNIGHT, ALL THE THE TIME LATELY.
THE EASIEST WAY TO BECOME FAMILIAR WITH THESE PROCESSES, PROCEDURES, AND LAWS IS TO VISIT THE SCHOOL OF GOVERNMENT WEBSITE.
WE ARE VERY FORTUNATE IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA
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TO HAVE THIS SERVICE PROVIDED BY 'EM.AND ALMOST ALL OF THE PROCESSES I DESCRIBED ARE OUTLINED VERY SIMPLY AND EASY TO READ BLOGS PROVIDED BY YOUR STAFF.
SO OUR NEXT STEPS THIS EVENING, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THREE SEPARATE REQUESTS.
THEY WILL BE TREATED AS THREE SEPARATE REQUESTS.
AND THE PLANNING AND ZONING TOWARD IS GOING TO CONSIDER THEIR CONSISTENCY OR INCONSISTENCY WITH OUR LAND USE PLAN AND ALSO WHETHER OR NOT THEY FEEL IT IS REASONABLE OR NOT TO PASS THAT ALONG TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN WHO WILL CONSIDER BUT ARE NOT BOUND TO THEIR RECOMMENDATION WHEN IT GOES TO PUBLIC HEARING, WHICH COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN AS EARLY AS NOVEMBER 10TH.
UH, I HOPE I DIDN'T BORE EVERYBODY TOO MUCH SO FAR AT THIS POINT IN TIME WE'LL GET BACK TO OUR NORMAL PROGRAM AND I'LL TURN THIS BACK OVER TO SHARON JEFFERSON.
UM, AND WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON
[VII. A. REZ-003680-2026, Southwest and Southeast Corner of US 70 and NC 43 - Rezoning ]
TO ITEM SEVEN A, THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST CORNER OF US 70 AND NC 43 REZONING.MR. GALL, DO YOU HAVE A, UH, BRIEF LIST PLEASE? GOOD EVENING.
OUR FIRST ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST CORNER OF US 70 AND, UH, NC 43 REZONING.
AS AN OVERVIEW OF THIS, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER OF THIS PROPERTY THAT'S IN, UH, IN QUESTION IS THE WAREHOUSER COMPANY.
ITS LOCATION, AGAIN, IS IN THE SOUTHWEST AND SOUTHEAST CORNER OF US 70 AND HIGHWAY 43.
UH, THE ANNEXATION STATUS, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE ETJ AND THE ANNEXATION IS PENDING, UH, WITH THE ANTICIPATED DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND THE SIZE OF THIS PARCEL IS 315 ACRES.
THE CURRENT ZONING OF THIS PROPERTY IS AGRICULTURAL FIVE F AND THE PROPOSAL IS TO TAKE THIS TO COMMERCIAL THREE.
THIS VICINITY MAP SHOWS ITS, UH, UH, LOCATION IN PROXIMITY TO THE HIGHWAY 43 AND US 70 INTERCHANGE.
IT'S JUST SOUTH OF THAT AS WELL AS JUST NORTH OF WEST NEWBURN.
AND ON THE WEST SIDE OF, UH, THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT YOU ALL GREENBRIER GREENBRIER, UH, IN YELLOW, THIS VICINITY MAP SHOWS THE BUFFER THAT WAS APPLIED.
THE CITY OF NEW BERN IS REQUIRED TO SEND OUT MAILED NOTICE TO ALL PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET OF THIS PROPOSED REZONING.
SO ANY PROPERTY THAT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YELLOW WAS SENT A LETTER.
THIS AERIAL VIEW SHOWS THAT THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND THE CURRENT ZONING MAP SHOWS IN GREEN.
A LOT OF THE AGRICULTURAL USE, UH, AGRICULTURAL ZONING DISTRICTS, UH, IN THE GREENS, UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, THERE'S NOT MUCH BEING BUILT THERE.
THE ORANGE AS WELL AS THE YELLOW ZONING DISTRICTS ARE YOUR RESIDENTIAL USES.
THE RED UP TOP AND THE BLUE AND THE BOTTOM RIGHT ARE COMMERCIAL USES.
THIS WIDER VIEW OF THE, UH, ZONING MAP OF THE CITY OF NEWBURN SHOWS, UH, THE DISTRIBUTION OF OUR DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS.
A LOT OF THE COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS DO, UH, RUN ALONGSIDE MAJOR CORRIDORS SUCH AS, UH, HIGHWAY 43 AS WELL AS, UH, MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD.
AS A SUMMARY OF THE AGRICULTURAL FLAG ZONING DISTRICT, UH, A LOT OF THE USES IN HERE ARE PRIMARILY FOR AGRICULTURAL AND FORESTRY.
UH, TYPICALLY SPEAKING, LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL USES ADJOIN OR ARE LOCATED WITHIN THIS ZONING DISTRICT.
THE COMMERCIAL THREE ZONING DISTRICT TYPICALLY, UH, IS ESTABLISHED FOR YOUR COMMERCIAL USES SUCH AS RETAIL AS WELL AS OFFICE USES.
THESE ARE TYPICALLY LOCATED ALONG MAJOR THOROUGHFARES AND MAJOR ARTERIAL ROADS.
OUR 2022 LAND USE PLAN DOES PLACE THIS PROPERTY WITHIN THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD FOCUS AREA.
THE FOCUS AREA BASICALLY IDENTIFIES THAT THIS IS AN AREA THAT IS ESTABLISHED FOR FUTURE GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.
SOME OF THE FOCUS AREAS ARE SHOWN IN THESE BLUE CIRCLES.
YOU'LL SEE ONE TO THE SOUTH RAN OFF OF MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD, UH, AS WELL AS TO THE NORTH OF THIS PROPERTY, UH, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF US 70.
AND AT THIS TIME BECAUSE OF, UH, THE PROXIMITY TO THE NC 43 PROJECT, UH, WE DO HAVE OUR MEMBERS FROM THE CRAVEN COUNTY MPO AND I'D LIKE TO INVITE THEM UP TO GIVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION OF, OF THAT PROJECT.
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THANK YOU.I'M WITH THE CRAVEN COUNTY METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION AND WE ASSIST WITH TRANSPORTATION ACROSS ALL OF CRAVEN COUNTY.
WE ARE NOT ENGINEERS, UM, OR THE FINAL SAY IN ANY OF THE PLANNING PROCESS.
WE JUST HELP COORDINATE BETWEEN THE LOCAL GOVERNMENTS AND NC DOT.
UH, SO I WANTED TO PROVIDE A LITTLE BIT OF BACKSTORY TO THE NC 43 CONNECTOR.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S GOT A VERY LENGTHY TIMELINE THAT THIS PROJECT HAS BEEN WORKED ON.
IT STARTED ORIGINALLY IN 1993 WITH, UH, THE PROPOSED PROJECT IN A THOROUGH THIRD PLAN FROM CRAVEN COUNTY.
THEN IN 2004, IT WAS BROUGHT TO THE TAC, UH, WHICH IS OUR TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE OF CRAVEN JONES AND PAMELA AT THE TIME, THEY SIGNED A LETTER TO, UH, N-C-D-O-T IN SUPPORT OF THE PROJECT IN 2005, ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS WERE SIGNED.
SO IT GOES THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE, AN EXTENSIVE DOC, UM, ENVIRONMENTAL PERIOD WHERE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE STATE ACTUALLY REVIEWED THE ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS.
AND THEN IN 2009, THE EXISTING PORTION OF THE NC 43 CONNECTOR WAS COMPLETED.
SO THAT'S THE CURRENT NC 43 THAT IS THERE TODAY.
IN 2014, THERE WAS AN UPDATED ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEW AND THOSE DOCUMENTS WERE SIGNED.
2019 THE RIGHT OF WAY FOR THE NEW PORTION OF NC 43, WHICH WE KNOW IS THE NC 43 CONNECTOR, UH, BEGAN IN 2023.
AND WE HAVE AN ESTIMATED COMPLETION OF 2028.
SO LONG TIMELINE, IT TAKES A LOT TO GET A TRANSPORTATION PROJECT, UH, THROUGH TO THE FINAL PRODUCT.
BUT, UH, I WANTED TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE PURPOSE AND NEED STATEMENT THAT WAS IDENTIFIED, UM, IN THE MOST RECENT ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENTS.
UM, THE NORTH CAROLINA DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION 20 2006 THROUGH 2012 TRANSPORTATION IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM, WHICH IS WHAT OUTLINES ALL OF THE FUNDED PROJECTS IN THE STATE INCLUDES THE EXTENSION OF NC 43 FROM NC 55 TO US 17 JUST WEST OF NEW BERN IN CRAVEN COUNTY, NORTH CAROLINA.
THIS PROJECT IS REFERRED TO AS THE NC 43 CONNECTOR.
THIS PROPOSED IS A FOUR LANE MEDIAN DIVIDED PARTIAL CONTROL OF ACCESS FACILITY ON A NEW LOCATION.
FULL MOVEMENT AND INTERSECTIONS ARE PROPOSED AT NC 43 55 AND US 17.
AN INTERCHANGE IS PROPOSED AT US 70.
THE APPROXIMATE LENGTH OF THE PROJECT IS 4.5 MILES.
EXHIBIT ONE SHOWS THE GENERAL LOCATION OF THE PROJECT.
AND EXHIBIT TWO SHOWS THE PROJECT STUDY AREA.
I DIDN'T INCLUDE THOSE EXHIBITS, BUT I CAN SEND THEM AS WELL IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN LOOKING AT THOSE.
MORE SPECIFICALLY, THE PURPOSE AND NEED OF THIS PROJECT IS BASED ON ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN CRAVEN COUNTY, ON AND ON PROJECTED TRAFFIC VOLUMES, A NEW CONNECTION BETWEEN US 17 NC 43 AND THE PROPOSED S 17 BYPASS IN, UH, NEW BERN WOULD HELP PROMOTE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN CRAVEN COUNTY BY PROVIDING A TRANSPORTATION INFRASTRUCTURE CAPABLE OF ACCOMMODATING FUTURE DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD RESULT IN JOB CREATION CREATION.
THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF THIS PROJECT.
THE PROPOSED CONNECTOR WOULD ALSO PROVIDE A MORE DIRECT ROUTE FOR TRUCK TRAFFIC TO ACCESS US 70 FROM THE NORTH, WHICH WOULD REDUCE TRAFFIC ON GLEN BURNIE ROAD BETWEEN AND C 43 55 AND US 70.
SO THE MAIN GOALS OF THIS PROJECT WERE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, REDUCING TR ASSISTING IN TRAFFIC VOLUMES AND GIVING, UH, FREIGHT TRAFFIC A MORE DIRECT ROUTE SO THAT WAY THEY'RE NOT GOING THROUGH TOWN.
AND I INCLUDED SOME MAPS FROM N-C-D-O-T, THESE ARE THEIR MOST UPTODATE PUBLIC INFORMATION MAPS OF THE LOCATION.
THIS IS AT, UM, RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL IN CRAYBURN ON US 17 NOW.
AND THEN THERE IS AN INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENT AS WELL AS SOME, UH, RECONFIGURATIONS OF AN INTERSECTION AS WELL.
THIS IS THE SECOND PORTION GOING THROUGH THE TWO NEIGHBORHOODS WITH INTERSECTION IMPROVEMENTS AND THE TOP PORTION COMING OFF OF US 70.
THAT IS THE MAIN INTERCHANGE IMPROVEMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE IN PLACE.
AND AT THIS TIME, I'D, UH, BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD BOARD, HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, WITH THAT, I WILL, UH, OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO THE APPLICANT'S OR THE APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATION.
GOOD EVENING CHAIRMAN AND BOARD MEMBERS.
AS MOST OF YOU KNOW, I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF WARD SMITH OUT IN YOUR COLLEGE COURT HERE, GREENBRIER.
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UM, AND I'VE GOT HERE WITH ME TONIGHT, MY PARTNER, CLIFF PARSON.UH, HE'S HERE TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS IN MY COMPANY.
EXCUSE ME, SIR, CAN YOU LIFT THAT MIC UP? SURE.
UM, SO AGAIN, I'M ERIC REMINGTON, WARDEN SMITH, UH, OUT IN COLLEGE COURT, AND MY PARTNER HERE, CLIFF PARSON, IS WITH ME.
UM, AS THE, THE STAFF SAID, UH, THIS EVENING WE'RE HERE ON THREE APPLICATIONS.
UH, THE FIRST ONE THAT WE'RE GONNA TALK ABOUT IS THE COMMERCIAL APPLICATION.
I DO HAVE SOME, UH, DRAWINGS, UH, DOCUMENTS THAT I'D LIKE TO HAND UP.
SO IF, IF I CAN HAND UP WHILE THOSE ARE BEING HANDED OUT.
UM, I WOULD JUST SAY I UNDERSTAND THAT, THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE APPLICATIONS INDIVIDUALLY, BUT I WOULD ASK THE BOARD TO KEEP IN MIND THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN IT'S LOOKING AT THESE INDI INDIVIDUALLY APPLICATIONS THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE OVERALL AREA AND NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT THIS IS, IS BEING, UH, PROPOSED IN.
UM, THE TWO DIAGRAMS THAT I'VE HANDED UP ARE PROPOSED.
UH, THE FIRST ONE ON THE TOP IS PROPOSED ZONING, AND IT SHOWS THE THREE AREAS THAT ARE, THAT ARE BEING, UH, REVIEWED TONIGHT.
THE ONE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT FIRST IS THE ONE THAT'S IN RED, WHICH IS C3, UH, COMMERCIAL, AND IS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE EXISTING PORTION OF THE, UH, SOUTH PART FOR THE 43 CONNECTOR.
UH, THE OTHER TWO ARE THE R SIX ONES, WHICH WILL COME, UH, LATER.
THE SECOND MAP, UH, SHOWS ESSENTIALLY HOW THAT RELATES TO, UH, AREAS THAT ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF HIGHWAY 70, UH, WHICH ARE IN THE WEST NEW BERN, UH, PART OF THE TOWN.
AND SHOW HOW THAT HAS ALSO C3 AND R SIX THERE.
AND I WILL, UH, COME BACK TO SOME OF THOSE DRAWINGS, UH, IN A MINUTE.
UM, THE PROPOSED ZONING IN RELATION TO THESE OTHER TWO TRACKS IS BASICALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE, FOR THE BOARD TO KEEP IN MIND.
THIS AREA, AS THE STAFF SAID, IS WITHIN THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, UH, BOULEVARD FOCUS AREA.
UH, ROBERT, WOULD YOU PUT THAT, UH, PLEASE.
WHICH IS BETWEEN THE HIGHWAY 17 BYPASS ON THE WEST AND MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD ON THE EAST HIGHWAY 17 BYPASS IS ESSENTIALLY A BARRIER, UM, BECAUSE IT'S A CONTROLLED ACCESS ROADWAY.
SO EVERYTHING EAST OF HIGHWAY 17, UH, I'M SORRY, UM, THE 17 BYPASS IS BASICALLY ENCLOSED.
THAT'S WHERE THE EXTENT OF NEW BERN IS.
SO THIS PORTION OF THE AREA, WHICH UP THERE ON THE MAP IS, IS MAINLY GREEN, IS, UH, AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE EXPANSION OF, OF NEW BERN TO THE WEST.
THIS IS A, UH, HIGHWAY, YOU KNOW, HIGHWAY GATEWAY.
IT'S REALLY THE FIRST, UH, INTERCHANGE THAT PEOPLE WILL COME TO WHEN THEY'RE COMING FROM RALEIGH, UH, OR GOLDSBORO OVER TO THE BEACHES AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND SO WE WANT, AND THE CITY OF NEW BERN, I WOULD THINK, WANTS THIS AREA TO BE NICE AND BE DEVELOPED AND WANTS IT TO HAVE SOME COMMERCIAL SERVICES FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS WHEN THEY'RE COMING DOWN HIGHWAY 70.
THE MAIN THING THAT THIS BOARD NEEDS TO CONSIDER TONIGHT IS THE HOW THIS INTERACTS WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
AND IN 2022, THE LAND USE PLAN WAS UPDATED.
UM, AND BASICALLY THAT SHOWS IN THE PLAN THAT THESE AREAS ARE SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT AND GROWTH.
THE HIGHWAY 43 CONNECTOR IS A LOGICAL COMMERCIAL CONNECTOR, UH, WHERE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY SHOULD BE, JUST LIKE GLEN BURNIE ROAD IS JUST LIKE MARTIN LUTHER KING ROAD IS, UH, BOULEVARD IS THEY, THEY ALL HAVE COMMERCIAL AND THAT'S EVIDENT BY THE BLUE, UH, AREAS THAT ARE UP ON THAT MAP THERE.
IN ADDITION TO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING FOCUS AREA, YOU HAVE THE HIGHWAY 43 FOCUS AREA, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF HIGHWAY 70, AND BASICALLY BUTTS UP AGAINST THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, UH, FOCUS AREAS.
SO THESE TWO FOCUS AREAS ARE VERY IMPORTANT TO THE FUTURE GROWTH OF, OF NEW BERN.
UM, AGAIN, AS I SAID, THIS IS A GATEWAY ROAD, IS THE FIRST MAJOR EXIT TO NEW BERN.
UM, IT WILL ULTIMATELY, AS OUR MPO REPRESENTATIVE SAID, CONNECT HIGHWAY 17 AND THE HIGHWAY 70.
THE IDEA OF IT, AS SHE SAID, WAS TO BASICALLY, UH, TAKE OFF SOME OF THE BURDEN FROM GLENBURN ROAD, WHICH GREENBRIER ACCESSES OUT TO, AND WHICH THE COMMUNITY COLLEGE ACCESSES OUT TO AND THINGS LIKE THAT, SO THAT THEIR VEHICLE TRAFFIC IS GONNA BE OVER THERE ON THE 43 CONNECTOR GOING NORTH AND SOUTH.
UM, IN THIS COMMERCIAL AREA, IF APPROVED, YOU KNOW, RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL BY THIS BOARD AND IF ADOPTED BY THE BOARD, BALDMAN WILL PROVIDE NECESSARY SERVICES FOR THIS
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AREA.UM, YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT RIVER BEND TO THE, TO THE SOUTHWEST, AND YOU'VE GOT OTHER AREAS THAT ARE DEVELOPING ALONG THE DR. MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD AREA THAT WILL END UP UTILIZING THIS, UH, CORRIDOR UP THE 43 CONNECTOR AND, AND UTILIZE THOSE COMMERCIAL SERVICES INSTEAD OF HAVING TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO GLEN BURNIE AND PLACES LIKE THAT.
SO THIS DEVELOPMENT, THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AND, AND REZONING OF THIS AREA WILL ULTIMATELY END UP BENEFITING THE TOWN AND THE CITY, UH, OF NEWBURN.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, STRATEGICALLY LOCATED AREA.
UM, THE SPECIFIC SECTIONS OF THE LAND USE PLAN THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ARE SECTION 1.2, UH, AND FIGURE ONE OF THE UPDATE.
UM, IT IS, IT MEETS THE OVERALL GOALS OF SUPPORTING LAND USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING LAND USES, UH, AND MAINTAINS COMMUNITY CHARACTERISTICS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, W HAER HAS A REPUTATION OF DEVELOPING, UH, SUBDIVISIONS AND OTHER PROPERTY IN THE AREA, AND THEY DEVELOP HIGH QUALITY SUBDIVISIONS AND, AND, UH, OTHER DEVELOPMENTS.
AND THAT'S, THEY'RE GOING TO DO THAT IN THIS CASE.
UH, IT IS GONNA HAVE PROPERLY SIZED INFRASTRUCTURE.
ALL OF THAT KIND OF STUFF WILL BE DEALT WITH IN THE DEVELOP THE ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
AND OF COURSE, AS WAS MENTIONED BY MR. UH, GO, THERE'S A DEVELOPMENTAL AGREEMENT THAT'S IN PROCESS ALONG WITH PART OF THE ANNEXATION, UM, PROCESS.
A LOT OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE, UH, ADDRESSED DURING THAT.
IT WILL ENCOURAGE BUSINESSES TO DIVERSIFY THE ECONOMY.
UH, THE DEMOGRAPHIC INFORMATION THAT IS LISTED IN THE LAND USE PLAN SUPPORTS THIS.
UH, COMMERCIAL ZONING, UH, POPULATION HAS INCREASED STEADILY SINCE 1980.
UH, MAJOR EMPLOYERS ARE LOCATED IN THIS AREA, INCLUDING CAROLINA EAST, MOEN, BOSCH, THERE'S THE INDUSTRIAL PARK OUT THERE WITH OTHER MAJOR EMPLOYERS.
VISITORS SPEND $155 MILLION IN NEWBURN, UH, A YEAR.
AND THAT PROBABLY FIGURE IS LOW, PROBABLY NOW, PROBABLY HIGHER THAN THAT.
TOURISM GENERATES 36, 31 $0.6 MILLION IN PAYROLL.
TAX REVENUE FROM BUSINESSES THAT SUPPORT VISITORS IS 38.8 MILLION.
ALL THIS INFORMATION COMES FROM, UH, SECTION 2.2 OF THE LAND USE PLAN AND IS ALL THE, ALL THE INFORMATION THAT YOU ALL CAN CONSIDER.
THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, OF THIS AREA SUPPORTS, UH, THE COMMERCIAL ZONING.
THE PROPOSED COMMERCIAL ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH THE C3 ZONING THAT IS ALONG THE EAST SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY 43 CONNECTOR, AND ALSO THE NORTH SIDE OF HIGHWAY SEVEN OH, UH, THE GLEN BURNIE ROAD AND MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD CORRIDORS ARE, AGAIN, MOST ALMOST FULLY ZONED COMMERCIAL.
UH, AND THE CURRENT ZONING, UH, IS A FIVE F BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS A MIX OF INDUSTRIAL, UH, C3 R 10, A R SIX AND C FIVE ZONING.
SO YOU DO HAVE COMMERCIAL ZONING.
UH, AND THAT'S IN THE COMMERCIAL, UH, ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, THE CURRENT NEIGHBORHOOD USE IS A MIX OF SINGLE, UH, I'M SORRY, COMMERCIAL OFFICE AND PROFESSIONAL MULTIFAMILY AND SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USE.
UH, AND THEN THE EDUCATIONAL ONE FOR THE SCHOOL, UM, CURRENT, UM, THE URBAN TRANSITION AREA THAT THIS IS LOCATED IN, ACCORDING TO THE FUTURE LAND USE PLAN, UH, THERE'S NO ENVIRONMENTAL OR NATURAL HAZARDS IN THIS AREA.
UH, THOSE ARE SHOWN ON FIGURE SIX AND SEVEN IN THE LAND USE PLAN.
UH, THE SEWER AND WATER SERVICES WILL BE EXTENDED TO THIS AS PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS IN THIS AREA.
AND SO THOSE SERVICES WILL BE, UH, YOU KNOW, TAKEN CARE OF BY THE DEVELOPER AND BY THE CITY.
UM, IT'S COMPLIMENTS THE GROWTH CORRIDORS AND THESE FOCUS AREAS, THE GROWTH CORRIDORS BEING, UH, AGAIN, GLEN BURNIE, MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD, AND SOME OF THESE OTHER MAJOR THOROUGHFARES THAT ARE IN THE CITY.
UH, THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL RESTRICTIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, WATER AND SEWER AGAIN, WOULD BE EXTENDED.
IT CONNECTS TWO MAJOR ROADS TOGETHER.
UM, AND IT'S IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS.
THESE ARE ALL CRITERIA THAT THE LAND USE PLAN, UH, REQUIRES THE PLANNING BOARD TO CONSIDER WHEN IT'S TALKING AND THINKING ABOUT RECOMMENDING ZONING TO THE, TO THE, UH, THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
THE CURRENT LAND USE, UH, AGAIN, IS AGRICULTURAL.
UM, AND THAT'S SHOWN IN FIGURES 14 AND 16 OF THE LAND USE PLAN.
UM, I COULD GO THROUGH THE INDIVIDUAL, UH, YOU KNOW, ITEMS IN THE LAND USE PLAN.
UM, LIKE FOR INSTANCE, YOU KNOW, UH, LAND USE DEVELOPMENT, 1.4, UH, IT INCURRED, THIS ONE OCCURRED.
YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THERE THAT THE AREA WEST IN THE WEST QUADRANT, UPPER WEST QUADRANT OF THE
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MARTIN LUTHER KING BOULEVARD FOCUS AREA IS LARGELY UNDEVELOPED RIGHT AT THIS POINT IN TIME.SO IT WILL, UH, YOU KNOW, UH, ENCOURAGE THAT IT HAS SUITABLE SOILS AND, AND HAS AND WILL HAVE SUITABLE INFRASTRUCTURE, UH, 'CAUSE THAT WILL BE PART OF, AGAIN, THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS.
UM, TI TRAFFIC AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE NOT REQUIRED TO BE EVALUATED DURING THIS PART OF THE PROCESS.
SO YOU ALL, UH, SHOULD REALLY BE HEARING STUFF ABOUT THAT TONIGHT.
UM, ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, WE'LL HAVE TO SUBMIT PLANS, UH, THROUGH THE APPROVAL PROCESS AND, AND THAT WILL SHOW ANY AND ALL INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE, UH, AS PART OF THIS, UM, DEVELOPMENTS, THE PROS, UH, REZONING, ADJOINS, UTILITY SERVED AREAS.
SO IT'LL BE EASY FOR THE DEVELOPER TO EXTEND THE, THE SERVICES TO THIS AREA.
THERE'S NO FLOODING OR STORM SURGE HAZARD BECAUSE IT'S AWAY FROM THE RIVERS, UH, AND THERE'S NO REAL PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS, AGAIN, YOU KNOW, AS YOU HEARD, THERE IS, UH, A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT'S BEING, UH, DISCUSSED BETWEEN THE, UM, CITY AND, AND WAREHOUSER.
UH, AND SO IT IS BASICALLY GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE QUESTIONS ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE AND THINGS LIKE THAT AND HOW THAT, UH, DEVELOPMENT WILL BE.
BUT TONIGHT, WHAT YOU ALL ARE LOOKING AT IS THE USE AND IS THE USE OF COMMERCIAL, UH, CATEGORY OF C3 COMPATIBLE WITH THIS AREA.
AND WE WOULD RECOMMEND THAT IT IS, UM, WE WOULD SAY, AND, AND I'LL WRAP UP, BUT I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THE, UH, PUBLIC COMMENTS AND, UH, ANYTHING THAT MR. CLEMENS MIGHT SAY ON THEIR BEHALF.
UM, WE WOULD REQUEST THAT THIS, THAT THE BOARD RECOMMEND TO REZONE THIS, UH, PARCEL C3.
UH, WE BELIEVE IT'S A REASONABLE, UH, DUE TO THE CHANGE IN CONDITIONS, THE CHANGE IN CONDITIONS IN THIS AREA ARE THAT THE, THAT THE HIGHWAY 43 CONNECTOR IS GONNA BE COMPLETED AND IS GOING TO JOIN THESE TWO MAJOR THOROUGHFARES, HIGHWAY 70 AND HIGHWAY 17, UH, IN OUR AREA.
THE LOCATION, SIZE, AND PHYSICAL ATTRIBUTES OF THIS AREA, IT'S MAINLY WOODLAND RIGHT NOW, USED FOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT OF, UH, PAPER PRODUCTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT, IS, IS PERFECT FOR DEVELOPMENT FOR COMMERCIAL, UH, SERVICES TO SUPPORT THIS AREA.
AND AS A GATEWAY TO NEW BERN, UM, THE, IT WILL BENEFIT THE NEIGHBORS AND COMMUNITY, UH, BECAUSE IT WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TAX BASE AND TAX REVENUE AND, AND JOBS FOR PEOPLE.
UH, THE PROPOSED USES MEET THE FUTURE LAND USE CRITERIA, AND IT'S IN THE PUBLIC'S BEST INTEREST BECAUSE IT WILL CREATE A NICE GATEWAY AREA FOR NEW BERN AND WILL COMPLIMENT THE CURRENT ZONING ON THE NORTH, UH, THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN ESTABLISHED BY THIS BOARD AND, AND ULTIMATELY BY THE, THE, UH, ALMAN.
SO THAT CONCLUDES MY REMARKS FOR THIS POINT IN TIME, BUT I WOULD LIKE THE OPPORTUNITY AGAIN TO RESPOND TO PUBLIC COMMENT.
WE WILL, UH, RESERVE OUR QUESTIONS FOR THAT TIME PERIOD.
IF THE BOARD HAS ANY, AND WE HAPPY, WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY KIND OF QUESTIONS.
UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA OPEN UP TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT BEFORE THAT, I JUST WANNA MENTION, UM, AND THIS IS MORE OF A THING FOR ME, UM, DIRECTLY BEHIND THIS BUILDING IS A, UH, BED AND BREAKFAST WITH A WHITE, UM, UH, PAINTING.
IT IS COMPLETELY BLINDED ME, UH, SITTING HERE WATCHING.
SO IF I'M NOT STARING AT YOU WHEN YOU'RE TALKING, IT'S NOT OUT OF DISRESPECT.
SO, UH, JUST, UH, JUST BE MINDFUL OF THAT.
I, I APOLOGIZE IF, UH, IF YOU SEE THAT.
SO WITH THAT, I'M GONNA OPEN UP PUBLIC COMMENT TO, UM, IS LIMITED TO THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER COMMENT SHOULD BE DIRECTED TO THE BOARD AND SAY STAFF IS RELEVANT TO THE ACTION ITEM BEING DISCUSSED.
GROUPS, ORGANIZATIONS, NEIGHBORHOODS, OR SIMILAR ASSOCIATIONS, UM, MAY APPOINT ONE SPOKESPERSON TO PRESENT THEIR POINTS OF VIEW TO THE BOARD.
PLEASE NOTE THIS IS A COMMENT PERIOD.
SO THE BOARD WILL NOT BE TAKING OR RESPONDING TO QUESTIONS DURING THIS TIME.
AND GIVEN THAT, UH, MR. UH, CLEMONS AND MR. CASHMAN HAVE BEEN APPOINTED TO THOSE, SO WE'RE GONNA GO TO THEM FIRST ON THESE ITEMS. SO, MR. CLEMONS, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES.
AND MR. REMINGTON GOT 10 MINUTES.
IS THAT THE WAY IT WORKS TODAY? THAT IS THE WAY IT WORKS.
I'VE BEEN WITH CHESTNUT AND CLEMONS SINCE 1985, UH, AND A RESIDENT HERE.
UM, AND I USED TO LIVE ON PINE VALLEY DRIVE FROM 1992 TO 1997.
SO I'M SPECIFICALLY FAMILIAR WITH THE IMPACTED PEOPLE WHO LIVE ON THAT DRIVE.
AND BASICALLY, IN THIS PARTICULAR PLAN ON C3, YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PEOPLE WHO END UP LIVE AT THE END OF PINE VALLEY DRIVE.
UH, I REPRESENT, UH, GREENBRIER HOMEOWNERS
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ASSOCIATION, INC.UH, THE GREENBRIER IS A VOLUNTEER, UM, ORGANIZATION.
UH, IF YOU BUY A LOT THERE, YOU NOT NECESSARILY HAVE TO BE A MEMBER, WHICH IS UNLIKE MOST OF THEM.
UM, BUT THERE ARE, UH, 651 HOMES OUT THERE AND APPROXIMATELY, UH, OVER 450 MEMBERS.
AND THE FIRST THING THAT I'D LIKE TO DO IS, UH, THANK ALL THE GREENBRIER PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE.
AND IF YOU'RE, IF YOU LIVE IN GREENBRIER, RAISE YOUR HAND.
SO THE, THE REASON THE REASON THAT I'M THE KIND OF DESIGNATED PERSON IS THAT, UM, WE WANTED TO AT LEAST, UH, GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF SOME OF OUR CONCERNS.
THAT AS A LAWYER, YOU GET A LOT OF INFORMATION AND I WORK THROUGH THE BOARD, BUT YOU GET A LOT OF CONCERNS ABOUT IT.
AND, AND I REALIZE THOSE CONCERNS ARE NOT YOUR CONCERNS TONIGHT.
HOWEVER, IT IS PART OF MY JOB OR WHAT I'M SUPPOSED TO DO IN ORDER TO LET ME KNOW THE CONCERNS OF PEOPLE WHO WOULD TAKE TIME FROM THEIR BUSINESS SCHEDULE AND COME TO A MEETING LIKE THIS.
AND I DO COME TO THESE MEETINGS FROM TIME TO TIME, AND THIS IS THE, THE BIGGEST ONE I'VE EVER SEEN.
UH, SO, BUT I, I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE GREENBRIER COMMUNITY IS A W HAER DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY.
I MEAN, IT WAS DEVELOPED BEGINNING IN 1984 AND WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED, IT WAS DEVELOPED AS A COMMUNITY THAT HAS VERY NICE HOMES.
AND IF YOU LOOK AT MR. REMINGTON'S, UH, MAP, UM, ON THE, ON THE, THAT WOULD BE THE EAST SIDE AND THE SOUTH SIDE OF C3 AND R SIX, THOSE ARE 10, THOSE ARE, UH, ZONED 10.
UH, IN THE BEGINNING OF THE OLD GREEN BROWN PORTION, WERE ZONED R 15.
OKAY? SO, SO THAT MEANS THAT THOSE ARE LOTS HAVING AT LEAST 10,000 SQUARE FOOT IF THERE R 10.
OKAY? UM, AND THERE ARE SINGLE LOTS, OKAY? WHEN I LIVE THERE, ACTUALLY THOSE LOTS ON PINE VALLEY DRIVE ARE LARGE.
THAT'S A MINIMUM OF 10,000 FEET.
BUT MY LOT FINISHED ALREADY, MR. CLEMONS WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE.
I HAVE MOTION TO EXTEND THE TIME.
HOW LONG WOULD YOU LIKE IT TO EXTEND? EXTEND THREE MORE MINUTES.
I HAVE MOTION FOR THREE MORE MINUTES.
YOU SAY, UH, HOLD ON, SIR, I, I HAVE A MOTION FOR THREE MORE MINUTES.
UH, IS, UH, DO WE HEAR A SECOND ON THAT? SECOND? SECOND? I HAVE A MOTION A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
OPPOSED? YOU GET THREE MINUTES.
SO THOSE PROBLEMS ARE, ARE THE NORMAL PROBLEMS PEOPLE THINK OF.
OKAY? SO YOU GOT INCREASED TRAFFIC IMPACT ON THE, THE, THE TYPE OF PROJECT THAT IT IS.
AND I'M ONLY TALKING ABOUT C3 NOW, STORM WATER DRAIN OFF ISSUES AND ALL THAT.
AND I KNOW THOSE ARE NOT YOUR ISSUES TODAY, BUT I DO WANT YOU TO MAKE AWARE OF IT.
OKAY? WE ALSO KNOW THAT IN C3 THERE IS A 200 FOOT SETBACK OKAY? FOR THAT COMMERCIAL BLOCK.
OKAY? BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WANTED TO SUGGEST, WHOEVER IS HERE IN THE PLANNING PORTION OF IT, IS TO ALSO ADD A 15 FOOT, UH, BUFFER.
OKAY? AND I, I HAVE SUBMITTED, UH, PLAINTIFF'S EXHIBITS ONE, TWO, AND THREE, WHICH SHOWS A BUFFER AT CAROLINA COLORS, WHICH IS ALSO A GREENBRIER DEVELOPMENT.
IT'S NICE YOU PUT PLANTS ON IT AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
AND, AND, AND THAT WILL DO A LOT TO RESOLVE SOME OF THIS ANXIETY IN THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE IT WILL CUT DOWN ON LIGHTS THAT MIGHT COME FROM COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS.
IT WILL CUT DOWN ON THE NOISE THAT MIGHT BE GENERATED.
IT WILL CUT DOWN ON TRAFFIC THAT PEOPLE SEE FROM THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS.
UH, IT WILL CUT DOWN ON, UM, UH, OR RESOLVE ISSUES REGARDING STORM WATER DRAINAGE PROBLEMS. UM, SO IF YOU DO THAT, WE REALIZE THAT W HAER IS THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY AND WE REALIZE THAT YOU CAN REZONE IT FROM ITS CURRENT ZONING TO A C3.
WE, WE REALIZE THE ZONING PART OF OKAY, BUT I SAY THESE PARTICULAR THINGS BECAUSE THESE ARE CONCERNS OF THE RESIDENTS THERE, PARTICULARLY THOSE RESIDENTS WHO LIVE IN A COMMUNITY WITH NICE HOUSES AND LARGE LOTS.
AND, AND I'LL TALK ABOUT HOW, UM, THE, UH, ADOPTED LAND USE PLAN BACK FROM 19, UH, FROM 2022 AFFECTS THE OTHER PART WHEN WE GET TO THE SECOND PART.
AND THAT'S THE REZONING FROM, UM, WHERE IT IS NOW, WHICH IS R 15 TO RECOMMENDED R SIX.
I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION THERE.
UM, BUT UH, MOSTLY IT'S THOSE TYPES OF ISSUES THAT CAN BE RESOLVED THROUGH THE PLANNING PORTION OF
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IT, UM, RATHER THAN THE REZONING.WE, WE DON'T HAVE A, I MEAN WE HAVE RESERVED OBJECTIONS TO THE REZONING, BUT I UNDERSTAND THERE, YOU KNOW, THE REMEDIES AND THE LIMITATIONS THAT YOU HAVE IN REZONINGS.
OKAY? IT'S JUST OUR HOPE THAT WITH THE REZONING THERE ARE SOME ADDITIONAL OBJECTS THAT WILL BE PUT IN THERE, WILL HELP RESOLVE SOME OF THESE CONCERNS, PARTICULARLY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AT THE END OF PINE VALLEY DRIVE.
AND I'M FAMILIAR WITH THAT DRIVE.
IT'S VERY NICE DRIVE AND UH, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT'S VERY NICE COMMUNITY OVER THERE AND PEOPLE WANT TO RETAIN THEIR HOUSES AND THE, THE LAND AND UH, MAKE IT MORE IN, IN CONTINUITY TO WHAT'S THERE NOW.
UM, WITH THAT, I'LL ASK MR. CASHMAN TO COME UP AND SPEAK.
YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES AS WELL.
THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU.
I'M THE PRESIDENT, CURRENT PRESIDENT OF THE GREENBERG PROPERTY OWNERS ASSOCIATION.
UM, AND I THINK THAT I, I DON'T HAVE, I HAVE SOME INFORMATION ON YOUR, UH, LAND USE CODES AND SECTION 15, UM, AND I THINK DASH 360 4 SAYS THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF MANDATORY YARD BUFFER, BUT I'M NOT, I COULD BARELY READ THAT THROUGH THAT WHEN I WAS TRYING TO GO THROUGH IT.
BUT I THINK WHAT I WANTED TO STRESS WAS THAT WHEN GREENBRIAR WAS DEVELOPED, I KNOW THAT IT IS CONSIDERED, UH, OR ZONED, MOST OF IT IS ZONED R 10.
BUT WHEN GARY AND I WERE COMPARING NOTES, IT LOOKS LIKE MOST OF IT IS, UH, THE BUILT TO R 15 STANDARDS, WHICH ARE BIGGER HOMES, BIGGER LOTS.
MY HOME IS FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE HALF ACRE LOT, WHICH I THINK IS MUCH BIGGER THAN R 10.
SO WE JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT TO PUT, UH, A COMMERCIAL ZONE NEXT TO AN R 15 NEIGHBORHOOD, A LOW DENSITY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, WE THINK IS JUST A TRAVESTY.
AND IS, UH, GARY WAS SAYING THAT WE FEEL THERE SHOULD BE SOME KIND OF BUFFER IN BETWEEN US.
NOW WE'VE BEEN TOLD I HAVEN'T, I DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GONNA BE WRITTEN, THAT THERE WILL BE A 200 FOOT BUFFER BETWEEN THIS SECTION THAT, UH, THEY'VE BEEN REQUESTED BE C3 AND THE BACK PART OF, OF GREENBRIER.
BUT WE THINK IN ADDITION TO THAT, BECAUSE IT'S GONNA BE ZONED FOR COMMERCIAL, WHERE YOU COULD HAVE COMPOUND OR TRUCKS COMING IN, TAKING TRASH OUT, YOU COULD HAVE DELIVERY TRUCKS THAT SHOW UP AT THREE O'CLOCK IN THE MORNING THAT THERE MAY NEEDS TO BE SOME KIND OF, UH, BUFFER TO PROTECT THE CHARACTER OF WHAT WAREHOUSE YOU DEVELOPED BACK IN THE EIGHTIES AND NINETIES WITH, UH, GREENBRIER.
AND SO, UH, WHAT GARY WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS A BURN.
AND I THINK THAT'S THE PICTURE THAT YOU, THAT YOU, HE GAVE YOU.
THERE WAS ONE THAT I TOOK FROM A LOT HAD THIS BEING DEVELOPED IN CAROLINA COLORS.
IT IS SEPARATES CAROLINA COLORS FROM WILCOX ROAD, I BELIEVE IT IS.
AND THEN RIGHT BEYOND THAT, THERE'S A BUSINESS THERE.
BUT THEN THERE'S HIGHWAY 70 AND I WAS STANDING THERE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE MORNING WHEN I TOOK THAT PICTURE AND YOU CAN'T HEAR THE HIGHWAY, YOU CAN'T HEAR TRAFFIC, YOU CAN'T SEE ANY OF THE HOMES 'CAUSE IT'S A 15 FOOT BURN.
UM, AND THAT WOULD GIVE US PROTECTION.
ALRIGHT, SO WITH THAT, UM, WE'RE JUST GONNA ASK, UH, RAISE YOUR HAND.
I'LL POINT TO YOU OR, UM, MAYBE FOUR OF MY LINE.
UH, AND WE'LL JUST, UH, WE'LL, WE'LL WE'LL GO THROUGH THIS AS, AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN.
WE'LL START AT THE FRONT, MOVE TO THE BACK.
MY NAME IS RON BON AND I LIVE IN 5 0 7 MULLIGAN COURT, ALONG WITH MY WIFE PAM.
AND, UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR 18 YEARS.
WHEN WE BOUGHT OUR HOUSE 18 YEARS AGO, UM, I ASKED ABOUT THIS PROPERTY, ER PROPERTY AND I WAS TOLD THAT IT WAS UM, AGRICULTURAL.
SO I FELT VERY COMFORTABLE, UH, WITH GOING THROUGH THE DEAL TO BUY OUR HOME KNOWING THAT IT WAS AGRICULTURAL.
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WELL, I GUESS THINGS HAVE CHANGED, HAVEN'T THEY? UH, I HEARD ABOUT THE REZONING APPLICATION AND UH, I FIRST GOT EXCITED ABOUT IT 'CAUSE I THOUGHT MAYBE, MAYBE WHERE AUER WANTS TO DEVELOP GREENBRIER WEST, BUT THEN I FOUND OUT THAT THEY WANT TO GO TO A COMMERCIAL.ANYTHING GOES ZONE AND UH, THAT IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE TO US AND EVERYONE HERE TONIGHT.
MY ISSUES STEM FROM THINGS LIKE LIGHT POLLUTION, LIGHTS BEING ON 24 7 IN THE COMMERCIAL AREA, NOISE POLLUTION 24 7.
YOU'VE GOT COMPRESSORS, YOU'VE GOT, UH, TRANSFORMERS.
UH, AND THEN THERE'S THE ISSUE OF SAFETY.
YOU KNOW, I FEEL PRETTY SAFE IN GREENBRIER RIGHT NOW.
THERE'S ONLY ONE REALLY ONE ENTRANCE AND EXIT LEAVING GREENBRIER.
AND WE LIVE ALL THE WAY AT THE END OF PINE VALLEY.
HOWEVER, IF YOU PUT COMMERCIAL IN THERE NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE, UH, PEOPLE WITH ACCESS, WALKING ACCESS AT BACK OF OUR HOMES AND THEY WILL HAVE, UH, BE ABLE TO GET AWAY IN SO MANY DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS ON 43.
AND THAT'S DEFINITELY A CONCERN.
AND THE ECOSYSTEM, AND MAYBE I SHOULDN'T BE TALKING ABOUT THIS, BUT I WILL, UH, HABITATION AND MIGRATION OF ANIMALS IS IMPORTANT TO US AND IT SHOULD BE IMPORTANT TO THIS COUNTY OF CRAVEN AS LONG AS THE CITY OF NEWBURN AS WELL.
SO OVERALL SIGNIFICANT CHANGE TO THE CHARACTER OF OUR BEAUTIFUL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAU DEVELOPED FOUR DAYS AGO WILL BE IN JEOPARDY IF THIS REZONING TO COMMERCIAL TAKES PLACE.
AND I REQUEST A ZONING BOARD AND THE CITY OF NEWBURN TO HELP THE RESIDENTS OF GREENBRIAR BY PROTECTING US FROM THIS REZONING.
I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION ALSO, UM, BEFORE WE GET TO THE NEXT PERSON, UM, IF YOU SAID YOUR COMMENTS AND UH, YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY, UH, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE, WE WOULD LIKE TO SWITCH PEOPLE OUT THAT WOULD ALSO LIKE TO MAKE COMMENTS, BUT WE CAN'T CURRENTLY.
'CAUSE THE FIRE MARSHAL HAS THE DOOR CLOSED.
SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO LEAVE AND, AND ALLOW OTHERS TO COME, WE WELCOME THAT.
UM, WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE NEXT GENTLEMAN THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK.
HI, NEIL ELLI 1 0 4 IN VERUS COURT.
JUST A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, IT WASN'T OBVIOUS ON THE TABLE OF UTILIZATION, THE C3 PERMIT OR DO NOT NOT PERMIT THE BUILDING OF DATA CENTERS.
I WILL, WE WILL ADDRESS THAT QUESTION AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, WE'RE NOT GONNA GO BACK AND FORTH.
NO, NO, I'M JUST CURIOUS 'CAUSE IT WASN'T OBVIOUS TO THE TABLE.
UM, WE WILL ADDRESS THAT, UH, AFTER, UH, THE PUBLIC COMMENT.
UM, WHO ELSE? UH, WHO'S UP NEXT? ALL RIGHT, COME ON.
MY NAME IS PAM BON AND I LIVE WITH MY HUSBAND RON.
WE'VE ALREADY SEEN UP HERE AT 5 0 7 MULLIGAN COURT.
THIS MIGHT NOT BE POPULAR IN THIS ROOM RIGHT NOW, BUT WHAT I'D LIKE TO SAY IS THANK YOU WIREHOUSER 40 YEARS AGO BECAUSE YOU HAD VISION FOR US, YOU GAVE US A BEAUTIFUL PROPERTY AND WE HAVE LOVED EVERY MINUTE OF IT.
EVEN WHEN THE DEER EAT MY FLOWERS AND THE BEAR GET MY BIRD SEED, THE BIRDS COME BACK AND SO DO I AND TO SEE, UM, OKAY, I'M GETTING EMOTIONAL AND THIS IS NOT APPROPRIATE, BUT, UM, WE ALWAYS LOOK BACK, WE BUILT A SCREEN PORCH TO ENJOY OUR ENVIRONMENT.
WE LOOK BACK AND WE SEE THE BEAUTY AND WE ALWAYS KNEW WE'D ALWAYS GO OVER TO 43 AND SEE, OH, WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN OVER HERE? BUT IN MY MIND'S EYE, AS MY HUSBAND SAID, IT WAS GONNA BE GREENBRIER WEST WITH HOMES THAT ARE 300, $400,000, HALF A MILLION AND CLIMBING.
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SAY TO THE ZONING COMMITTEE AND TO THE FUTURE ALDERMEN.UM, PLEASE HELP US ZONE IT FOR ZONE IT FOR, UM, RESIDENTIAL.
I MEAN, WIREHOUSER DOESN'T NEED THE EXTRA MONEY.
I'M SURE THEY GET MORE FOR COMMERCIAL THAN THEY DO FOR UM, YOU KNOW, RESIDENTIAL.
BUT WE'D LIKE SOME NEIGHBORS BEHIND US AND WE'D LIKE TO KEEP OUR TREES THERE.
CAN I GO SEE IF ANYTHING DOWNSTAIRS WANTS TO SPEAK? YES.
UH, THERE IS A A NO ONE ELSE CAN COME UP SO SOMEBODY'S GOTTA LEAVE AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE CAN COME IN.
IF THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO WANTS TO SPEAK, I'LL, I'LL ASK SOME PEOPLE TO GO.
DO THE RIGHT THING WHILE PEOPLE ARE LEAVING, IF THERE'S ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO COME AND SPEAK, UH, YOU'RE WELCOME TO DO SO, BUT COME ON UP.
I USED TO RUN THE ARTS COUNCIL FOR 13 YEARS BEFORE I RETIRED.
MY MAIN SUBJECT MATTER IS WHAT JURIES ARE MADE.
I ALSO WATCH MANY ANIMALS, BOBCAT, BEAR DEER, AND I UNDERSTAND THE NEED FOR GROWTH, BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THERE WAYS TO MOVE THESE ANIMALS SAFELY ACROSS THESE HIGHWAYS THAT ARE SURROUNDING THEM RIGHT NOW AND WHAT IS BEING CREATED.
AND WHEN YOU DON'T LEAVE ENOUGH, AND I'M JUST SAYING THE 200 FOOT ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM, AT LEAST WITH THE BURN.
SO THESE ANIMALS HAVE THEIR PATHS THAT THEY CAN COME IN AND OUT OF OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT'S VERY IMPORTANT TO KEEP THE HAWKS, THE OWLS AND ALL THOSE ANIMALS ALIVE.
AND IF WE GO AHEAD AND BUZZ CUT, ALL THAT'S GOING TO DO IS PUSH THEM FURTHER AND FURTHER AWAY.
AND IF WE, ALL WE DO IS PAVE, WE'RE GOING TO JUST GO AHEAD AND HAVE A FLOOD BECAUSE I'M RIGHT ON THE DITCH AND I SAW WHAT FLOYD DID IT PUT A RIVER ON BOTH SIDES OF MY HOUSE.
AND, AND IF YOU'RE ADDING MORE TO IT, THEN THAT'S A PROBLEM.
AND I KNOW YOU GUYS MAY NOT HAVE THAT ON YOUR AGENDA, BUT IT IS A PROBLEM.
AND EVERY ONE OF THOSE ANIMALS THAT I MENTIONED COME TO THAT DITCH FROM THE WILDERNESS, FROM WHAT IS ACROSS OUR ROAD IN ORDER TO DRINK.
EVEN WHEN IT'S LOW, THEY COME TO THE, THE LOWER PARTS OF THAT DITCH BECAUSE THAT'S THEIR WATER SOURCE.
THEY HAVE TRAILS IN THERE THAT THEY FILE, FOLLOW ALONG THE TURKEYS DO IT ALL THE TIME.
AND WHEN YOU WANNA SEE TURKEYS, LET IT RAIN BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN THEY COME OUT.
SO PLEASE TRY TO GIVE US A WILDLIFE CORRIDOR SO THAT THESE ANIMALS CAN MOVE ACROSS THAT HIGHWAY, EITHER DIRECTION AND STILL STAY ALIVE.
YOU ANYONE ELSE? GOOD, GOOD EVENING.
I HAVE 1.11 ACRES THERE AND I CAN TELL YOU IT GETS WET.
I WANT ALSO TO TALK ABOUT THAT STRIPPING.
THE FOREST PARCEL OF TREE CANOPY AND NATURAL SOIL STRUCTURE POSES IMMEDIATE FLOODING GREENBRIAR SUBDIVISION, BROADER TWIN RIVER DRAINAGE SYSTEM.
RIGHT NOW THE FOREST PARCEL OPERATES AS A CRITICAL ENVIRONMENTAL BUFFER.
THE TREES AND UNDISTURBED SOIL FUNCTION LIKE A SPONGE.
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YOU COULD SAY, SAY WITH ME, THREE INCHES OF RAIN TIMES 700 ACRES OF LAND EQUALS 30 MILLION GALLONS OF WATER COMING OUT OF THE SKY.AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MORE THAN 700.
BUT IT'S A NICE EVEN NUMBER TO REMEMBER.
UM, IF YOU PERMIT A DEVELOPER TO COME IN, THAT'S SPONGE, UH, YOU ARE INTRODUCING ROOFS, PAVED DRIVEWAYS, SIDEWALK STREETS LANDSCAPE COMPLETELY MIMICS A CONCRETE FUNNEL.
UP TO 90% OF THE RAIN WATER WILL INSTANTANEOUSLY FORM THE SHEET RUN OFF.
HAVING TROUBLE FINDING MORE SPACE HERE WILL IMMEDIATELY STRAIN THE ADJACENT LOW LINE DRAINAGE CHANNEL AND INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GREENBRIER RELIES ON, ON, ON ITS OWN WATERWAY.
IN TURN, THE PERIMETERS WILL DRAIN DITCHES WILL BE BLOATED, ET CETERA.
BUT THAT FURTHER THIS ACCELERATION RUNOFF DOESN'T, IS NOT LIMITED TO THE DRAINAGE.
DRAINAGE, IT GOES TO THE TRENT RIVER.
ALL THIS WATER THAT WE HAVE NOW AND THE INCREASE OF MORE WATER FROM THAT AREA, 'CAUSE THE AREA'S HIGHER THAN GREEN BARRIER AND WATER DOES GO DOWNHILL, ALL OF IT HAS TO GO UNDER HIGHWAY 17.
THEN IT GOES OUT TO THE SWAMP AREA TOWARDS HAYWOOD LANDING, THEN IT GOES DOWN INTO WEST WILSON, WILSON CREEK AND FLOODS ALL THE HOUSES ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE.
AND IT ALWAYS FLOOD EVERY TIME WE GET RAIN.
AND THEN IT GOES INTO THE TRENDS RIVER.
AND WHAT WE HAVE THERE IS EXTRA SEDIMENT IN ALL KINDS OF POLLUTION.
THIS IS NOT GONNA WORK NOT IN THE WAY IT'S BEEN PLANNED AS, AS A TIGHT COMMUNITY.
I THINK IT HAS TO BE DONE IN A MORE THOUGHTFUL WAY LIKE MR. GREEN, EXCUSE ME, LIKE MR. SER ORIGINALLY PLANNED.
HI, UH, MY NAME IS JOHN ZIGLER AND I LIVE IN UH, GREENBURG AND I LIVED THERE FOR ABOUT 10, 12 YEARS.
AND UH, IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE AND I'M KIND OF SPEAKING OF WHERE THE RESIDENTS THAT ARE NOT REPRESENTED HERE.
AND THAT'S THE WILDLIFE THAT'S GONNA BE AFFECTED BY THIS REZONING.
OKAY? WE HAVE DEER, WE HAVE BEARS, WE HAVE FOX, WE HAVE COYOTES, WE HAVE EVERYTHING.
IT'S A BEAUTIFUL PLACE TO LIVE.
AND UH, ACTUALLY THEY VISIT MY YARD QUITE OFTEN AND THIS IS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS ONE THING THAT'S ALWAYS KIND OF MISSED OUT.
I WORKED IN NEW JERSEY AT PHARMACEUTICAL, UH, PLACES ALREADY AND I SAW A WHOLE HER OF A DEER WIPED OUT THAT PUT A BUILDING UP AND I THINK IT'S RIDICULOUS.
I LIVE AT 17 0 70 PENNEY ROYAL ROAD.
AND IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO YOU TODAY.
UH, MY CONCERN IS QUITE A FEW OF EACH DIFFERENT THINGS THAT WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THIS EVENING, BUT SPEAKING ABOUT HAVING AN INDUSTRIAL PARK MORE OR LESS CLOSE TO OUR HOMES SEEMS A LITTLE BIT, UM, NOT THINKING ABOUT THE NEIGHBORS.
AND I WORRY ABOUT THE STREETS THAT THESE TRUCKS AND OTHER 'CAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THEY'RE BRINGING IN.
SO I WOULD LIKE, I AM AGAINST THIS FOR A LOT OF REASONS, BUT THE CITY OF NEW BERN IS GROWING SO FAST AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ISN'T CATCHING UP TO IT.
NOW WHEN WE GET ALL THESE HOMES AND WE GET ALL THESE COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE NO IDEA HOW BIG THEY'RE GOING TO BE OR WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE, DO WE HAVE ENOUGH POLICEMEN, ESPECIALLY IN A DENSELY POPULATED AREA, ARE WE GOING TO NEED MORE POLICEMEN? IS THAT GOING TO RAISE OUR TAXES? ARE THEY GOING TO BUILD A SCHOOL AND ARE THEY GONNA MAINTAIN IT OR IS THAT OUR PROBLEM? AND DOCTORS, WE CAN'T EVEN GET ENOUGH DOCTORS HERE NOW, LET ALONE AFTER THEY MAKE, UH, A DENSE POPULATION AREA.
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MOST OF US HERE HAVE TO WAIT TWO MONTHS TO GET TO SEE A DOCTOR AND PROBABLY ALL OF YOU ALSO.SO ALL THIS IS A BURDEN NOT ONLY JUST TO GREENBRIER, BUT TO NEWBURGH ITSELF.
AND I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD CONSIDER LOOKING AT OUR LOVELY TOWN AND NOT HAVING IT DESTROYED BY HAVING ALL THIS DEVELOPMENT IN IT.
ANYONE ELSE? ANYBODY OUTSIDE? NOPE.
I, I KNOW I LIVE ON 1210 PINE VALLEY DRIVE.
I BOUGHT MY HOUSE 'CAUSE IT HAD A GREAT BEAUTIFUL FOREST IN THE BACK OF IT.
IF THAT WASN'T THERE, I WOULD NEVER HAVE MOVED THERE.
I CAME FROM A TOWN THAT DECIDED TO REDEVELOP AND TO ALSO CUT PARCELS OF LAND AND REZONE, COMMERCIAL AND RESIDENTIAL BECAUSE THEY SAID THE SAME THING WITH ALL DUE RESPECT TO THE OTHER GENTLEMAN.
IT'S GONNA BRING MONEY IN, IT'S GONNA BRING TAX MONEY.
WHEN I RETIRED, I COULD NOT AFFORD THE TAXES.
I COULD NOT AFFORD THE OTHER EXPENSES OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WAS EITHER DONE BY PUBLIC OR PRIVATE.
'CAUSE THE WATER TABLE IN OUR TOWN ROSE AND THE, AND WE WERE GETTING FLOODED IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT AREAS.
SO NOW EVERYBODY'S, UH, RESIDENCE GOT REZONED FOR INSURANCE.
SO INSURANCE WENT UP, THE TAXES WENT UP, THE PRICES WENT UP.
AND IT TURNED OUT THAT, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT THAT EVERYBODY SAID WAS GONNA BE A BIG BOOM AND A FORTUNE FOR THE, FOR THE TOWN, EVERYBODY ENDED UP, WHOEVER RETIRED, WHOEVER DOESN'T AFFORD IT ANYMORE, STARTED LEAVING.
AND THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN.
AND THEY, AND THE TOWN LOST ITS, UM, REASON TO MOVE THERE.
IT'S NO LONGER A PRETTY PLACE TO LIVE THERE.
IT'S GOING FROM A TOWN TO STARTING TO LOOK LIKE A MINI NEW YORK OR A BEVERLY HILLS.
AND SO I'M AFRAID WHAT YOU ALL SAYING, OH, WELL, WE'RE GONNA GET TAXES, TAXES.
BUT WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING, THE RESIDENTS GET BURNT.
THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE THERE.
AND THEN THE BEAUTY THAT THEY MOVED INTO THE TOWN OR CITY IS TOTALLY GONE.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU.
I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UH, WE, WE HAVE A BEAUTIFUL, BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT WE LIVE AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE SOME TREES IN FRONT OF THEM SO WE CAN SEE TREES.
AND WE, WE, WE COULD ACTUALLY HAVE SOME, SOME WILDLIFE THERE AND IT WOULD BE GOOD.
THEY DON'T NEED TO HAVE A HUGE AREA.
IF THEY HAD 10, 20 FEET, THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE ENOUGH FOR US.
I'M A FORMER BOARD MEMBER OF THE GPOA.
I LIVE IN THREE 11 BURNING COURT, UH, SPAR DOWN PINE VALLEY.
I JUST WANTED TO FLESH OUT AN EARLIER COMMENT WHERE THE GENTLEMAN TALKED ABOUT 700 ACRES OF WOODS AND HOW MUCH WATER THAT ABSORBS DOWN.
IF YOU'RE NOT FAMILIAR WITH GREEN DRYER, THERE'S TWO DRAIN.
JERRY, YOU MIGHT CONSULT AVERY SMITH, YOUR WATER MAN, WATER MANAGEMENT GUY.
HE'S WORKS WITH US ALL THE TIME.
MOST OF GREEN DRYER DRAINS BY GRAVITY FROM THE NATURE PARK OUT TO THE RIVER.
EVERYTHING FROM THE NATURE PARK, NORTH OR WEST, I SHOULD SAY, DRAINED BY PUMPS.
THERE WAS ONE, ONE HORSEPOWER PUMP, AND THEN THEY ADDED A SECOND.
OLD PUMPS DON'T WORK DURING A STORM.
THERE'S NO ELECTRICITY, THERE'S NO PUMPING.
AND EVEN WHEN THE PUMPS WORK, IT DON'T PUMP.
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PUMP INTO ANY SEWERS.MAKE SURE THEIR SEWERS SECURE THE WATER AWAY.
'CAUSE RIGHT NOW, THOSE TWO PUMPS WORK THEIR HEART OUT, PUT ALL THE WATER OVER A HILL, A BURN, AND ONTO THE GRASS NEXT OF THE HIGHWAY.
WE ARE SIMPLY TRANSFERRING ALL THE WATER FROM GREENBRIER AND WOODED LAND ONTO THE SIDE OF THE HIGHWAY.
SO WHEN WE GET RID OF THE WOODS, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE ROWS, ROOFS, AND PAVED AREAS.
ALL THAT WATER'S GONNA GO INTO DRAINS.
IT'S GONNA GO INTO OUR DITCH AND OVERLOAD THOSE TWO QUAD HORSEPOWER MOTORS THAT DON'T WORK IN A STORM.
SO PLEASE THINK ABOUT DRAINING, DROWNING.
WILL YOU CONSIDER THIS? OKAY, THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
I LIVE IN THE GREENBRIER SUBDIVISION.
UM, I'M SPEAKING IN OPPOSITION TO REZO.
YOUR REQUEST STANDING IN 3 6 7 9.
UM, THE REQUEST TO REZONE 376 ACRES EAST OF THE FUTURE NC 3 43 CORRIDOR CONNECTOR.
PARDON ME, SIR, MAY I, MAY I, UH, STOP YOU? UM, THAT IS THE NEXT ITEM.
SO THE FIRST ONE A, SO THE REQUEST THAT I WRAPPED 36 8, ENDING IN 3, 6, 7, 9, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S THE NEXT ITEM.
YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK DURING THAT ITEM, BUT WE'RE FOCUSING ON SEVEN A.
THE FIRST ITEM RIGHT NOW, YOU'RE CONCERNED WITH THE COMMERCIAL PROPERTY? NO, SIR.
ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? COME ON.
MY NAME IS MIKE, AND I LIVE ON ST.
AND BARRING ALL OF THE LOGISTICAL ISSUES AND ALL OF THE ENVIRONMENTAL ISSUES, OBVIOUSLY PEOPLE EVERYWHERE ARE ON DIFFERENT SIDES OF ALL OF THE ISSUES.
SO I RESPECT THE POSITION IT PUTS YOU FOLKS IN.
UH, YOU NO DOUBT ALL HAVE FAMILIES.
YOU PUT YOUR PANTS ON ONE LEG AT A TIME LIKE THE REST OF US.
UM, SO WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE YOU AS A GROUP? UH, WE APPRECIATE THE SERVICE THAT YOU PERFORM.
YOU'RE PROBABLY UNDERPAID FOR IT.
BUT THE FACT IS, IS I HAVE TO BELIEVE THAT YOUR MOTIVE IN DOING WHAT YOU DO IS, IS YOU WANT TO SERVE, YOU WANT TO SERVE A PURPOSE, AND YOU WANT TO TRY TO DO GOOD.
AND THAT'S THE PLATFORM I GUESS THAT I'M COMING FROM IS, AND I, I'VE BEEN IN BUSINESS MY WHOLE LIFE AND I'M CALLED ON PRACTICALLY EVERY DAY TO ADJUDICATE MATTERS.
AND I DON'T CARE IF IT'S A DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR THE CORPORATE WORLD OR IF IT'S A CONVENIENCE STORE EMPLOYEE.
EVERYBODY NEEDS THEIR PAYCHECK, EVERYBODY NEEDS THEIR DIGNITY.
SO WHERE AM I GOING WITH THIS? WHEN YOU SEPARATE ALL OF THE MONEY AND ALL OF THE GIFTED, TALENTED PRESENTERS, AT THE END OF THE DAY, I ALWAYS TRY TO DO THE RIGHT THING.
AND I FORGET ABOUT ALL OF THE LOGISTICS AND ALL OF THE THIS AND ALL OF THE, THAT.
WHAT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO? WHEN I DEAL WITH CUSTOMERS ANGRY, FURIOUS, I ALWAYS TELL 'EM, AND THEY UNDERSTAND.
THEY, THEY THANKFULLY CAN SENSE MY SINCERITY IS I'M GOING TO DO THE RIGHT THING, WHETHER IT'S IN YOUR FAVOR AS THE CUSTOMER OR WHETHER IT'S IN THE COMPANY'S FAVOR.
AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION.
SOMETHING THAT YOU NO DOUBT ALREADY ARE VERY WELL AWARE OF.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, WHEN YOU'RE CALLED UPON TO MAKE A DECISION AND TO RENDER JUDGMENT, I IMPLORE YOU JUST DO THE RIGHT THING.
MOVE THAT MIC TO, UH, RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR FACE PLEASE.
I'M A STUDENT AT NEWBURN HIGH SCHOOL.
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MAIN CONCERN WOULD BE WITH THE CONSTRUCTION AND THE TRAFFIC.IF YOU DON'T KNOW NEWBURN HIGH SCHOOL, THE WAY TO ENTERING IT OUT IS A ONE WAY ROAD.
THERE'S ALREADY A NEIGHBORHOOD RIGHT NEAR IT AND THEY HAVE TO WAIT EVERY DAY TO GET OUTTA THEIR HOMES UNTIL NEW BERN STUDENTS GET OUT.
AND THEN ANOTHER THING WOULD BE, UM, CONSTRUCTION.
WILL IT BE DISTURBING THE STUDENTS OF NEW BERN WHILE THEY TRY TO GET THEIR EDUCATION? AND THAT'S IT.
ANYONE ELSE? UM, I'M JENNIFER CARMEN.
I'M A SCIENCE TEACHER HERE IN NEW BERN, AND I HAVE BEEN FOR 20 YEARS.
UM, PART MY CURRICULUM IS TO TEACH STUDENTS ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT HUMANS HAVE ON THE, THEIR ENVIRONMENT.
WE TALK ABOUT THE DANGERS OF EROSION WITH CLEAR CUTTING, UM, DISRUPTING THE FOOD CHAIN WHEN WE DISPLACE ANIMALS.
UM, WITH THIS HAPPENING RIGHT IN MY BACKYARD, I LIVED IN GREENBRIER AND IT WAS A TEACHABLE MOMENT FOR ME TO START TALKING TO MY STUDENTS ABOUT WHAT WAS HAPPENING.
AND THEY BEGGED ME TO COME TONIGHT AND TO SPEAK TO EVERYONE.
UM, THEY WANT, SINCE ALL 54 OF THEM COULDN'T MAKE IT HERE, HERE I AM.
UM, THEY'RE BEGGING YOU TO CONSIDER THEIR FUTURE.
CONSIDER THE NEW BERN THAT YOU WANT TO LEAVE FOR THEM.
UH, WHEN YOU'RE MAKING THIS DECISIONS, DON'T JUST CONSIDER THE FINANCIAL, UM, WHAT WE MAY GAIN IN GROMENT.
PLEASE THINK ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOSING.
UM, THINK ABOUT THEIR FUTURE BECAUSE AS THEY'RE 10 YEARS OLD AND THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THIS, THEY'RE WORRIED ABOUT THE FOOD CHAIN, THE ANIMALS, THE EROSION.
THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE LEAVING FOR THEM.
I'M, I'M GONNA BREAK MY OWN RULES HERE.
UM, JUST SO YOU KNOW, AND YOUR AND YOUR STUDENTS.
MY WIFE'S THE SCHOOL TEACHER, SO I UNDERSTAND, UM, WE ARE NOT MAKING THE FINAL DECISION DECISION HERE TONIGHT.
THIS IS, THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION TECHNICALLY TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
THEY WILL BE MAKING THE FINAL DECISION.
SO ANYTHING YOU HEAR TONIGHT OUT OVER, THERE'S NO CLEAR DECISIONS.
SO JUST SO JUST MAKE SURE THAT THEY I FAIR ENOUGH.
AND, AND EVERYBODY DOESN'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS, SO I GET IT.
SO JUST, UH, JUST UNDERSTAND THAT AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE OR LIKE FOR THEM TO COME AT THE BOARD OF ALMAN TO WATCH THAT PROCESS, UH, THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC.
IS ANYONE ELSE WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK? PLEASE COME ON.
I'M BONNIE BIRCH AND I LIVE ON THE GREEN, UH, PINE VALLEY DRIVE TOO.
AND THE IMMENSELY IMPACTED BECAUSE OF THE BEAUTIFUL FOREST BEHIND US THAT WE SEE VANISHING.
AND I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF FRED ZINK WHO SPOKE EARLIER AND HE SPENT SO MUCH TIME COMPILING INFORMATION AND WANTING TO MAKE A, A MORE INVOLVED PRESENTATION.
I'D LIKE TO READ WHAT HE WANTED TO SAY.
I RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACT OF DEVELOPING THE, THE ACRES OF JOIN IN GREENBRIER, PARTICULARLY USING A SCORCHED EARTH METHOD FOR DEVELOPMENT.
THIS LAND IS MORE THAN UNDEVELOPED PROPERTY.
IT PROVIDES HABITAT AND WILDLIFE CORRIDORS SIMILAR TO THE NATURAL AREAS FOUND THROUGHOUT THE NE NEARBY PROTAN NATIONAL FOREST.
THESE WOODLANDS SUPPORT DEER BOXES, RACCOONS, RABBITS, SQUIRRELS, BATS, OWLS, HAWKS, EAGLES, SONGBIRDS, TURTLES, SNAKES, FROGS, COWS, AND MANY OTHER SPECIES.
EVEN SPECIES THAT ARE RARELY SEEN MAY DEPEND ON THESE CONNECTED HABITATS.
R SIX DEVELOPMENT WILL PERMANENTLY FRAGMENT THIS HABITAT AND DRAMATICALLY CHANGE THE CHARACTER AND QUALITY OF LIFE.
HE SAYS FOLLOW GEORGE ER'S DREAM.
GREENBRIER IS A WIRE HAER COMMUNITY ORIGINALLY DEVELOPED WITH AN APPRECIATION FOR TREES, OPEN SPACE, RECREATION, AND THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT.
THIS WAS DONE BECAUSE OF GEORGE AUER.
I ASKED THE BOARD TO PREFER, PRESERVE THAT PHILOSOPHY BY CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THE FUTURE PATH OF NEWBURN.
THINK OF THE FUTURE GENERATIONS WHO WILL LIVE HERE AND WHAT THEY WILL INHERIT FROM YOUR DECISION BEFORE YOU APPROVE A DEVELOPMENT OF THIS SCALE.
PROTECT THE PEOPLE HERE, THE NATURAL WILDLIFE AND ENVIRONMENT THAT MAKES THIS A UNIQUE AREA.
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GOOD EVENING.MY NAME IS ANTHONY TOLBERT AND ALTHOUGH I DON'T LIVE ON PINE VALLEY, I HAVE A LOT OF FRIENDS THAT LIVE ON PINE VALLEY AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TASKED WITH RECOMMENDING TO THE BOARD, YOU'LL MAKE A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY DON'T HAVE TO ABIDE BY AND ALL THAT.
BUT AS FAR SOMETHING, WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU MAKE YOUR RECOMMENDATION, IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA BUILD, IF IT WAS GONNA BE CONVERTING IT TO A, A RESIDENTIAL AREA, THAT WOULD BE A DIFFERENT IMPACT THAN GOING FROM ALL THOSE PEOPLE THAT BACK UP TO PINE VALLEY.
AND NOW YOU'RE FACED WITH COMMERCIAL AND ALL THE UNKNOWNS OF COMMERCIAL.
WE LIVED, WHEN WE LIVED OUT WEST, WE SAW THE RAMIFICATIONS WHEN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD CONVERTED.
BUT IF YOU CONVERT YOUR BACKYARD, ALL THE PEOPLE WITH THE BEAUTIFUL VIEWS THAT THEY HAVE RIGHT NOW, IF IT WERE TO GO TO RESIDENTIAL, THAT'S ONE THING, BUT YOU'RE TAKING A STEP FROM RESIDENTIAL TO WHO KNOWS WHAT AND A BUFFER MAY NOT EVEN FIX THAT.
SO IT'S A MAJOR CHANGE FOR ALL THOSE PEOPLE AND PLEASE TAKE THAT INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN YOU'RE MAKING RECOMMENDATIONS.
ANYONE ELSE? DO WE KNOW OF ANYONE OUTSIDE OR PROBABLY NOT.
UM, WITH THAT HEARING, NO ONE ELSE WITH COMMENTS TO SPEAK.
UH, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING.
UM, WITH THAT I WILL OPEN IT BACK UP TO THE APPLICANT AND APPLICANT'S REPRESENTATIVES, UM, IF THEY WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE, OR ANY CLOSING REMARKS.
I ONLY HAVE A COUPLE OF COMMENTS TO MAKE.
UM, ONE, I THINK THE INFORMATION THAT WE PRESENTED TONIGHT WAS SPECIFICALLY DIRECTED TOWARD HOW THIS PROPOSED REZONING IS DIRECTLY CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
I DID NOT HEAR ANY OF THAT REALLY IN ANY OF THE PRESENTATIONS.
WHILE I RESPECTFULLY, YOU KNOW, I RESPECT WHAT THE INDIVIDUALS FROM GREEN BAY ARE SAYING, THAT IS FOR A DIFFERENT PROCESS AND THAT IS NOT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO CONSIDER TODAY.
THE, UH, ALDERMAN HAVE, UH, YOU KNOW, CREATED ORDINANCES THAT GOVERN THE CITY OF NEW BERN AND THOSE ORDINANCES HAVE SOME OF THE THINGS IN THEM AND ADDRESS ALL OF THE THINGS THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, LIKE STORM WATER AND BUFFERS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
THERE ISN'T ANYWHERE IN NEWBURGH THAT REQUIRES A 200 FOOT BUFFER, BUT THAT'S WHAT, UH, WAREHOUSER IS INTENDING TO DO AND IS PART OF THIS DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT THEY'RE GONNA PUT TOGETHER.
UM, SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT DATA CENTERS AND I WILL ADDRESS THAT.
UH, IT IS NOT THE INTENT OF W HAER.
FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE C3 ZONING CATEGORY ALLOWS THAT AND CERTAINLY IS NOT ALLOWED IN ANY RESIDENTIAL, UH, ZONING THAT IS, THAT IS IN NEW BERN.
UM, BUT WAREHOUSE HAS NO INTENT TO, YOU KNOW, DO ANYTHING RELATED TO DATA CENTERS IN ANY OF THESE AREAS THAT THEY OWN.
SO THAT, UH, WILL BE, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALSO.
UM, AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THAT THIS, UH, REQUEST IS REASONABLE AND IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN AND WE ASK YOU TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF IT TO THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN.
DOES THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I HAVE, I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
I WAS NOTICING ON THE WEBSITE FOR WEST NEWBURN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NORTH SIDE AND, AND I LOOK AT THIS MAP, I SEE THAT THERE WAS A, A, A BIG COMMERCIAL C3 ZONE IN AS WELL.
BUT THEN YOU LOOK AT THE CONCEPTUAL MAP AND I SEE A LOT OF, OF, UH, RESIDENTIAL COMMUNITIES IN THAT.
IS THAT BECAUSE THEIR, UM, THEIR INTENT IS TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE RESIDENTIAL INSIDE OF THAT ZONING? YES, THERE IS.
SO THERE IS RESIDENTIAL AND ALSO COMMERCIAL COMPONENTS TO THAT, UH, C3 SECTION THERE.
'CAUSE RESIDENTIAL IS ALLOWED IN THE C3 ZONING DISTRICT.
UH, BUT YOU'LL ALSO NOTICE THAT, UH, IT BORDERS UP AGAINST AN R SIX YES CATEGORY, WHICH THEN BORDERS UP AGAINST AN R 10 CATEGORY.
AND THOSE ARE, UH, GOOD TRANSITION, UH, BETWEEN THE TWO.
UM, MR. ONE QUESTION, ONE THING I HOPE YOU REALIZE, EVERYBODY SHOULD REALIZE THIS, WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CONSIDER WHAT WAREHOUSER HAS IN MIND FOR THE PROPERTY BECAUSE THE ZONING GOES WITH THE LAND AND YOU, THEY COULD SELL IT, THEY COULD DO ANYTHING THEY WANT WITH IT.
I'M NOT SAYING THEY WILL, BUT THEY CAN.
AND THAT'S JUST A FACT, YOU KNOW.
SO I ALSO, UM, WANNA SAY THAT THERE'S MORE THAN JUST CONSISTENCY.
THE REASON, THE MOTION THAT WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT IS IT, IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE
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PLAN AND IS IT REASONABLE IS BECAUSE THE BOARD OF ALBAN IS REQUIRED TO MAKE A SECOND FINDING THAT IT IS REASONABLE.AND SOME OF THE THINGS THERE TO CONSIDER IS REASONABLE EFFECT SIZE, PHYSICAL CONDITIONS AND OTHER ATTRIBUTES.
THE BENEFITS, THANK TO YOUR MIKE DETRIMENTS, THE BENEFITS AND DETRIMENTS, UM, TO NEIGHBORS, UM, LANDOWNERS, NEIGHBORS, THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE CURRENT AND ACTUAL PERMISSIBLE DEVELOP.
SO IF I WERE TO VOTE THAT IT'S, IT'S REASONABLE.
AND WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT ANY OF THAT.
MR. CHAIR, IF I COULD BE HELPFUL, JUST IN THIS MOMENT, GENERALLY SPEAKING IN REZONING APPLICATIONS, YOU ARE CONSIDERING ALL PERMISSIBLE AND APPLICABLE USES OF THE PROPOSED ZONING DISTRICT.
THIS APPLICATION IS A BIT UNIQUE IN THAT AS MR. REMINGTON HAS INDICATED, THIS ENTIRE PROJECT IS GONNA BE SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH OF COURSE IS NOT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT AND IS WITHOUT YOUR PER OUTSIDE YOUR PURVIEW.
IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE TO MR. DUFFY'S POINT, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS BY STATUTE ALLOW THE CONTRACTING PARTIES TO LIMIT AND RESTRICT THE PERMISSIBLE USES THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO I THINK, UM, MR. REMINGTON HAS GONE ON THE RECORD TONIGHT, UM, IN THIS PUBLIC MEETING THAT'S GONNA BE MEMORIALIZED FOREVER EVER ON MEN ABOUT HIS STATEMENT ABOUT THAT USE.
AND THAT I IMAGINE IS GOING TO BE INCORPORATED INTO THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH WILL RUN PARALLEL AS MS. RU INDICATED TO THIS REZONING PROCESS.
SO IT'S A SLIGHT TWIST THAT, BUT IN SOME NUANCE THAT YOU MIGHT WANT TO, UH, REFLECT UPON, EVEN THOUGH THAT IS NOT WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW TO GO UP OR DOWN ON TONIGHT.
BUT IT IS JUST, I'D LIKE TO RESPOND TO MR. DUFFY IF I'M, GO AHEAD.
UH, I DO BELIEVE WE COVERED IN OUR REASONABLENESS PART OF THIS, THE CONSISTENCY AND THAT IS PART OF THE REASON THAT THE LAND USE PLANS ARE CREATED IS TO BASICALLY ESTABLISH THAT IT'S REASONABLE TO PUT IT IN THERE BASED ON SIZE, LOCATION, AND ALL THOSE THINGS.
AND I DID COVER THOSE IN MY, IN MY, UH, STATEMENTS.
SO I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, MR. PHIL.
YES, MR. PER, UH, AND THIS IS, I'M GONNA CHANGE IT FROM YOUR, THE QUESTION OF YOU TO JAMIE, COULD YOU INFORM THE AUDIENCE? 'CAUSE I THINK SO MUCH OF THEIR CONCERNS CAN BE HANDLED WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT, UH, ERIC HAS ALREADY BEEN TALKING ABOUT.
CAN YOU INFORM THE AUDIENCE AS TO THAT PROCESS AND WHAT, HOW THAT OCCURS AND HOW VISIBLE THAT IS TO THE PUBLIC? SURE.
SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT OF A TANGENT, BUT IT'S RELEVANT ON THESE UNIQUE FACTS.
A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT GENERALLY IS IN PLACE WHEN YOU HAVE A LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT INFRASTRUCTURE.
SO WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HUNDREDS OF ACRES THAT MAY REQUIRE, UM, EXTENSIVE AMOUNTS OF WATER OR SEWER CAPACITY, THE DEVELOPER WHO IS UNDERTAKING THAT PROJECT CERTAINLY WANTS TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO THAT CAPACITY BECAUSE THE DEVELOPMENT WILL TAKE PLACE CONCEPTUALLY OVER A PERIOD OF YEARS, MAYBE EVEN DECADES.
SO THEY WANT TO LOCK IN THEIR ACCESS TO THOSE MUNICIPAL SERVICES.
THE GENERAL STATUTES OF THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA ALLOW CONTRACTING PARTIES, THE DEVELOPER AND THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT TO AGREE TO A SET OF RULES THAT WILL BE IN PLACE AND RUN WITH THE LAND FOREVER.
SO THE, UM, CONDITIONS, THE, THE FIRM REQUIREMENTS OR THE BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS OR THE PERMISSIBLE USES, ALL OF THOSE DETAILS ARE MEMORIALIZED IN THAT DOCUMENT.
IT'S RECORDED, AND ANY SUBSEQUENT PURCHASER OF THE PROPERTY WILL ALSO BE BOUND BY THOSE RESTRICTIONS.
THAT ADOPTION PROCESS GENERALLY REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING JUST LIKE A REZONING DOES.
AND THE STATUTES ACTUALLY CONTEMPLATE THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A REZONING HAPPENING IN COORDINATION WITH THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
SO GENERALLY SPEAKING, IT'S A PUBLIC DRIVEN PROCESS THAT GIVES THE PUBLIC ASSURANCES OR ONE GIVES THE DEVELOPER ASSURANCES, THEY HAVE ACCESS TO MUNICIPAL SERVICES, UM, GIVES THE PUBLIC ASSURANCES ABOUT THE TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT IS GOING TO BE PERMISSIBLE AS A PART OF THAT LARGE SCALE PRO PROCESS AND LOCKS IN THE RULES SO THAT OVER THE COURSE OF THE YEARS AS RULES CHANGE, WE KNOW EXACTLY WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE AS IT RELATES TO THAT PROJECT.
WILL THERE BE PLANS IN THOSE, IN THAT AGREEMENT THAT THE PUBLIC WOULD SEE BEFORE IT WAS VOTED ON OR DOWN? SO GENERALLY, I THINK IN THE PAST, AND I'LL, I'LL DEFER TO MR. REMINGTON, UM, WITH LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT IN THE NEW BERN AREA, THERE'S ONLY A MASTER PLAN THAT GIVES AN OVER A BROAD OVERVIEW OF THE TYPES OF DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY HAPPEN THERE.
BUT AS MR. REMINGTON INDICATED IN HIS COMMENTS, BECAUSE OF THE STATE STATUTES, UM, FEDERAL REGULATIONS AS IT RELATES TO WETLANDS AND ALL DIFFERENT TYPES OF THINGS, THERE IS A RIGOROUS VETTING PROCESS THAT CAN GO THROUGH VARIOUS DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND BUREAUCRACIES BEFORE VERY DETAILED INFORMATION IS PUT INTO PLACE.
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MUCH OF THAT IS GOING TO BE, UM, REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF AND CAN ALSO REQUIRE, UM, APPROVALS AT THE STATE AND FEDERAL LEVEL.UM, HOW WE, SORRY, THE, UM, I APOLOGIZE.
THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD HAS, HAS ENDED.
UM, OKAY, SO WHEN COULD, UM, I DUNNO WHY THIS IS HAPPENING ALL OF SUDDEN, UM, FOR THE PUBLIC WHO HAVE A LOT OF VALID CONCERNS, UM, THAT MAY NOT BE APPLY APPLICABLE TO OUR MEETING TONIGHT.
THEY WOULD HAVE OPPORTUNITY AT SOME POINT TO SPEAK ON THOSE ISSUES IN FRONT OF THE BOARD OF OTTOMAN BEFORE THEY VOTE UP OR DOWN OUTSIDE OF THE REZONING, BUT ON THAT PLAN, CORRECT? YES, SIR.
THE, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL BE SUBJECT TO A PUBLIC HEARING WHERE THE PUBLIC WOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AND COMMENT AND LET THEIR REPRESENTATIVES KNOW HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT THAT PROJECT.
UM, TO THE EXTENT YOU ALL HAVE INFORMATION THAT YOU THINK IS PERTINENT, UM, FOR THE BOARD TO CONSIDER, UM, THE FACTORS THAT ARE IN OUR, OUR LAND USE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS THE STATE STATUTE, YOU CAN ALSO CONVEY THAT INFORMATION TO THE GOVERNING BOARD, UM, IN YOUR RECOMMENDATION THAT YOU MAKE TONIGHT.
UH, BOARD, HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR THE, UH, ATTORNEY? MR. REMINGTON HERE.
UM, AND WITH THAT I WILL OPEN IT UP TO, UH, DELIBERATION WITH THE BOARD.
WHAT ARE OUR THOUGHTS? I'LL GO AHEAD AND MAKE SOME COMMENTS IN GENERAL IN THAT LISTENING TO THE CONCERNS, UH, THEY'RE, AS YOU SAID, VALID AND, UH, BIRTH HEARING.
UH, UNFORTUNATELY THEY DON'T PERTAIN TO WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH TONIGHT AS MUCH, AND THAT'S WHY I WANTED TO HAVE THEM, THE AUDIENCE UNDERSTAND WHAT LIES AHEAD OF THEM AND HOW THEY CAN IMPACT WHAT GOES ON THE GROUND THERE.
FOR INSTANCE, THE, UH, MR. REMINGTON SPOKE ABOUT THE 200 FOOT BUFFER AGAINST GREEN PRIOR FROM IN AGAINST THE, UH, CC THREE AREA.
UH, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN BE MEMORIALIZED IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AND YOU HAVE THE, YOU'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEAL WITH THOSE TYPE OF ISSUES COMING FORWARD WITH THE BOARD OF ALDERMAN AND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT, UH, THEY'LL HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
SO, UH, UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND UNDERSTAND YOUR FEELINGS.
UH, UH, MOST OF YOU DON'T KNOW, BUT I BUILT GREENBRIAR FOR WEYERHAEUSER.
UM, SO I, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND, AND, UH, THAT'S ONE OF MY FAVORITE PLACES THAT I EVER DEVELOPED AND IT'S A, IT'S A GREAT PLACE AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU ARE AND WHY YOU WANT IT TO BE THAT WAY.
UM, UH, WELL, YEAH, I BORN AND RAISED HERE FOR 40 YEARS.
UM, IT IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY AND NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IT, IT REALLY IS JUST ONE MORE POINT THAT THE LAND USE PLAN ONLY CALLS FOR DEVELOPMENT.
IT DOESN'T CALL FOR C3 AND SO IT COULD BE ANYTHING.
NOW WHAT IT IS, IS AGRICULTURAL, IT'S PROBABLY NOT ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE, ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE AT THIS TIME IN THIS AREA.
BUT WHAT WOULD BE WRONG WITH OUR TENANT? THAT'S CONSISTENT ALSO, RIGHT? THAT'S DEVELOPMENT, YOU KNOW, AS FAR AS LAND NOW THAT'S IS SUITABLE THAT THE PLAN SAYS IT'S SUITABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT ANYTHING WOULD QUALIFY FOR THAT AND I THINK WE HAVE BETTER CHOICE.
AND JUST TO CLARIFY, MR. CHAIR, THE APPLICATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS FOR THE PROPOSED ZONING CLASSIFICATION OF C3.
SO THE VOTE FOR YOU ALL TONIGHT IS EITHER THUMBS UP OR THUMBS DOWN ON THE C3 IF YOU, IF THE APPLICANT WANTS TO CONSIDER OTHER THINGS AT SOME OTHER TIME, THAT'S THEIR PURVIEW.
UM, BUT R 10 OR ANY OTHER CLASSIFICATIONS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROJECT ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW, UM, THAT IS NOT BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING.
NO, I WASN'T PROPOSING A DIFFERENT MOTION.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, CAN WE GET BACK TO THE SLIDE THAT SHOWS THE MLK FOCUS AREA? THAT ONE, AND THERE'S ONE AFTER THAT, UH, THAT I KNOW NO ONE HERE ON STAFF WAS HERE WHEN THIS WAS ADOPTED.
UM, WHAT IS, IS THERE A DEFINITION
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THAT I'VE MISSED AND I PROBABLY DID, UM, FOR URBAN TRANSITION? DO WE HAVE THAT? UH, YES.IT'S PINK ORANGE, OR I GUESS I'D CALL IT ORANGE, RIGHT? THE URBAN TRANSITION.
THIS CLASS, THIS CLASSIFICATION DESCRIBES AREAS ON THE PERIPHERY OF DEVELOPED ZONES THAT IS POISED FOR FUTURE GROWTH.
THESE AREAS ALSO SERVE AS A BUFFER FOR RURAL AND OPEN SPACES.
LAND IN THIS AREA IS A MIX OF VACANT AND DEVELOPED PROPERTIES.
ALL RIGHT, UM, LET'S GO BACK ONE SLIDE TO THE BROADER, UM, THE MAP.
UM, I JUST WANTED THAT UP WHILE WE WERE TALKING.
UM, DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE ANY COMMENTS ON THE BOARD ON THIS ITEM? UM, FOR MYSELF, UM, THOUGH I RECOGNIZE THAT THE, THESE CITIZENS' COMMENTS, UM, WE ARE NOT TASKED WITH A LOT OF THOSE.
WE ARE TASKED AS, IS IT CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN OF 2022? UM, THAT WAS, AS IT SAYS THERE, ANONYMOUS, UNANIMOUS UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED BY THE BOARD OF ALL.
UM, BUT WITH, WITH, WITH THAT, I, I, I AM OPEN TO ANY MOTIONS OR ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM.
UM, I'LL LEAVE IT OPEN TO THE BOARD.
I, I THINK WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THIS CORRIDOR FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
UM, AND WE KNEW IT WAS A GROWTH CORRIDOR, UM, THAT IS A LOT OF C3 TO D ZONING AT ONE TIME.
UM, HOWEVER, IT DOES IN MY OPINION, STILL FOLLOW WITH THE LAND USE PLAN, UM, IF THEY WANT TO BUFFER.
I THINK I CERTAINLY UNDERSTAND THAT WITH GREENBRIER.
UM, BUT, UH, AS FAR AS THE LAND USE PLAN IS CONCERNED, I THINK IT'S PRETTY CLEAR THAT WE ARE IN THAT GROWTH CORRIDOR AND, UM, IT'S KIND OF HARD NOT TO, UM, FEEL LIKE IT DOES COMPLY.
I, UM, YEAH, THE ONLY OTHER COMMENT THAT I'VE GOT WRITTEN DOWN HERE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I'M AN ANIMAL LOVER LOVER AS WELL.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT, UM, W HAUSER CAN DO IN THAT NATURE, BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT THEY WOULD DO, UH, SOMETHING IN, IN IN THAT REGARD.
UM, BUT, UM, BUT IT'S A PLEASURE TO BOARD ON THIS ITEM.
I'D ENTERTAIN A MOTION AND MAKE ONE LAST COMMENT THAT, UH, BY ALL MEANS I'VE NEVER SEEN A 300 ACRE C3 TURN OUT TO BE ALL COMMERCIAL.
UH, I THINK THAT THIS, LIKE MR. REMINGTON SAID, PROBABLY HAS TO BE, TO BE ECONOMICALLY VIABLE WOULD, WOULD LEND ITSELF TO A MIXED USE WHERE YOU'LL HAVE OTHER RESIDENTIAL COMPONENTS TO IT.
UH, THE HIGHWAY, THE NC 43 ROAD IS NOT GOING TO CARRY ENOUGH TRAFFIC TO MAKE ANYTHING MUCH MORE THAN A, THAN STRIP COMMERCIAL ALONG THE HIGHWAY.
AND THEN, LIKE I SAY, A 300 ACRE TOTAL COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT, UH, IN THIS PART OF THE WORLD, I HAVE NOT SEEN THAT ANYWHERE.
SO I AM NOT CONCERNED AS MUCH ABOUT THE WHOLE 315 ACRES BEING A RESIDENTIAL, I MEAN A COMMERCIAL NIGHTMARE, UH, BECAUSE IT, IN THE DEVELOPMENT WORLD, THAT WOULD BE ECONOMICALLY FEASIBLE.
UM, AND I, I DO BELIEVE THAT WILL BE COMPONENTS OF RESIDENTIAL INTO THIS C3 AREA, WHICH IS ALLOWABLE.
AND I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT THAT'S WHERE THIS MASTER PLAN, WHEN YOU SEE IT, ULTIMATELY SEE IT, UH, WILL PROVE TO BE WHAT YOU'LL GET OUTTA THIS AREA.
TO YOUR POINT, KIM, THEY'RE NOT ASKING FOR INDUSTRIAL USE.
YOU KNOW, THEY'RE NOT LOOKING TO BUILD ANOTHER MOWING EXTENSION OR SOMETHING OVER THERE WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE, UM, A LOT OF INDUSTRIAL USES AND THEY COULDN'T DO THAT IN A CITY, IN A COMMERCIAL DISTRICT.
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A LOT OF THE MANUFACTURING THAT ARE MORE HEAVILY, UH, CONCENTRATED USES ARE IN THE INDUSTRIAL DISTRICTS, WHICH ARE NOT PART OF C3.UM, I'M GONNA PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, AND IF YOU DON'T KNOW, THAT'S OKAY.
ARE THERE ANY SOUND ORDINANCES THAT ARE PERTAINING TO A C3? THERE IS A SOUND ORDINANCE, BUT NOT IN THE LAND USE ORDINANCE THAT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
UM, BECAUSE AS A RESIDENT, I UNDERSTAND, AND THIS IS FOR LATER ON, AND IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS, BUT, YOU KNOW, I WOULD, UH, ONE GENTLEMAN MADE A COMMENT ABOUT, UH, TRASH CANS.
THERE ARE TRASH CANS EMPTIED RIGHT DOWN HERE.
I LIVE HERE IN TOWN AT TWO IN THE MORNING.
UM, AND IT, AND I I HEAR IT TOO.
UM, BUT WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO? UH, MARGO, UH, BY ALL MEANS, THIS IS SORT OF A PERSONAL OBSERVATION, I GUESS, BUT THE INFORMATION PROVIDED BY A COUNSELOR THAT THERE ARE OTHER STEPS AND THERE ACTUALLY CAN BE, UM, RESTRICTIONS.
AND I ALSO, THE MAYBE AN ANALOGY OF A COVENANT TYPE THAT GOES WITH THE DEEDS, AS YOU SAID, TO GUIDE DEVELOPMENT EVEN IN THE FUTURE IS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY FOR COMMUNICATION AND THAT THE DOOR ISN'T CLOSING RIGHT NOW.
WOULD THAT BE CORRECT? THERE'S CERTAINLY ADDITIONAL DETAILS THAT ARE GOING TO BE IRONED OUT THAT WILL BE, UM, PUT BEFORE THE PUBLIC FOR THE BOARD OF BALMAN TO CONSIDER.
HAVING THIS SET, ALL THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON ITEM NUMBER SEVEN, EIGHT FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION.
MY SCREEN'S NOT WORKING SO I CAN HAVE KIPP'S SCREEN IS BROKEN.
CAN YOU FORWARD TO THE UM, STATEMENT? NO.
YEAH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE, UM, THAT THIS REZONING OF 0 0 3 6 8 0 20 26, WE RECOMMEND TO THE BOARD OF HONOR ROOM THAT THEY APPROVE THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND FIND THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE OR APPLICABLE LAND USE PLAN 2022 AND DETERMINED TO BE REASONABLE AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
SECOND, I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, UH, I'D LIKE TO HAVE A ROLL CALL VOTE IF YOU WOULD.
MICHAEL DUFFY? NOT REASONABLE AND NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
SO THAT'S A NO FOR CLARITY? YES.
UM, WITH THAT, I WOULD ENTERTAIN A MOTION BEFORE THE NEXT ITEM FOR A 10 MINUTE RECESS.
IS THAT, WAS THAT A SO MOVED MR. DUNNING? OH NO, YOU NEED A SECOND.
IS THAT, I DO NEED A SECOND FOR THAT.
OH, I NEED A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A RECESS.
DO I HEAR A SECOND? SECOND, YES.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
ALTHOUGH WE'RE IN RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES, SORRY, I HAVE TO GO TO BATHROOM.
JAMIE, I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH THE PROCEDURE.
DO I NEED A MOTION TO REOPEN OR AM I JUST GOOD TO GO? GOOD TO GO.
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ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM SEVEN B, THE EAST OF FUTURE NC 43 CONNECTOR, REZONING AND KENDRICK, YOU HAVE A BRIEF REST ON THIS ONE? YES, SIR.GOOD EVENING TO EVERYBODY THAT'S ATTENDED.
UM, I DO HAVE THE LUXURY PRESENTING OUR SECOND ITEM HERE.
AND THIS IS JUST STARTING OUT WITH REZ 0 0 3 6 7 9 20 26.
THIS IS THE EAST OF FUTURE NC 43 CONNECTED REZONING.
AND JUST PRIOR TO STARTING, A LOT OF THE INFORMATION MAY SEEM SOMEWHAT REDUNDANT.
UM, THAT IS COMING UP IN MY PART, THE PRESENTATION.
I MAY JUST MORE SO EXPLAIN THIS BRIEFLY, BUT IF YOU NEED TO STOP ME AND ASK QUESTIONS, FEEL FREE, HAVE AT IT, PLEASE DO SO.
THE REQUEST SUMMARY HERE, THE APPLICANT AND OWNER IS AUER IN OUR COMPANY.
THE LOCATION, UH, IS AGAIN EAST OF FUTURE NC 43
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CONNECTOR.THE REQUESTED ZONING CHANGES HERE, UH, IS AGRICULTURAL FIVE FA DASH FIVE F, OR EXCUSE ME, OR A DASH FIVE F AND RESIDENTIAL R 15 OR R DASH 15 TWO, RESIDENTIAL SIX OR R DASH SIX.
UH, THE ANNEXATION, EXCUSE ME, ANNEXATION STATUS CURRENTLY WITHIN THE EDJ, UH, AS YOU'VE HEARD PREVIOUSLY.
AND THE SIZE HERE IS TOTALING 376.2 TOTAL ACRES.
THE FIRST MAP THAT WE HAVE HERE IS THE VICINITY MAP.
AND THIS IS SHOWN WITH THE OUTLINING IN RED.
IT'S FOLLOWED BY YOUR BUFFER MAP.
AND AS YOU'VE HEARD, THIS IS OUR, ESSENTIALLY THE AREA WITHIN A HUNDRED FEET FROM PROPERTY FOLKS WHO ARE, YOU SEE THAT LIGHTEST COLOR SHOULD HAVE RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION.
AND THE AREA MAP THEN COMES THROUGH TO SHOW YOU WHAT IS ACTUALLY ON THE GROUND.
AND OUR ZONING MAP HERE, JUST TO GIVE YOU THAT REFLECTION OF THE DIFFERENT ZONING DISTRICTS AS FAR AS FOR THE A DASH FIVE F YARD DASH 15.
AND UM, THERE IS SOME R DASH SIX THAT'S VISIBLE AS WELL.
AND JUST STARTING OUT, YOU'VE ALREADY KIND OF HEARD THE BASIS FROM MR. GOFF DURING HIS PRESENTATION.
AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT IS ESSENTIALLY, UM, ALLOWS FOR AGRICULTURAL STYLE USES THE PERMITTED, OR EXCUSE ME, THE PERMITTED TABLE OR TABLE PERMISSIBLE USES THAT YOU MAY HAVE PICKED UP AND THAT WE HAD AS A HANDOUT WILL KIND OF SHOWCASE WHAT USES ARE ALLOWED IN THIS DISTRICT.
THE RESIDENTIAL 15 DISTRICT, JUST TO GIVE THE DISCLAIMER THAT'S HERE, UH, THIS IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS WITHIN EXCUSE WITH 15,000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM LOTS FOR THE R 15 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN PROMOTING THE GENERAL PURPOSES OF THE SUBORDINATES.
THIS SPECIFIC INTENT, UH, FOR THE DISTRICT TO GIVE YOU A BASE IDEA, AGAIN TO ENCOURAGE THE CONSTRUCTION OF, UH, AND CONTINUED USE OF THE LAND FOR SINGLE FAMILY WELLINGS, A DISCOURAGEMENT ESSENTIALLY IS ANY USE WHICH WOULD GENERATE TRAFFIC ON MEYER STREETS OTHER THAN NORMAL TRAFFIC FOLLOWING.
THIS IS THE RESIDENTIAL SIX R DASH SIX SIX ZONING DISTRICT ANALYSIS.
THE R DASH SIX BASE AGAIN IS THE RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, WHICH IS DESIGNED TO ACCOMMODATE SINGLE TWO AND MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
THIS IS BASED OFF OF A 6,000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM LOT SIZE AND ESSENTIALLY 2000 SQUARE FEET FOR ANY ADDITIONAL TO ENCOURAGE CONTINUED USE OF ESSENTIALLY FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES AND IF DISCOURAGES ANY USE, WHICH WOULD BE OUT OF CHARACTER FOR THIS DISTRICT.
AND AS YOU'VE CONTINUED, WE'VE, UH, OR AS WE CONTINUE, WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL DIFFERENCES OF INFORMATION REGARDING THE LAND USE PLAN.
THIS PROPERTY IS IN REFERENCE TO THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD FOCUS AREA AS WELL.
UM, AND AGAIN, IT ESSENTIALLY IS JUST GIVING THAT, UH, UNDERSTANDING OF PROMOTION OF GROWTH.
AND ONCE MORE, WE LAND HERE AT THE, UH, FOCUS AREA FOR MARTIN LUTHER KING JR BOULEVARD UNTIL THE 2022 LAND USE PLAN FINDS THAT IN ADDITION TO THE EXISTING FIRST CORRIDOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT, NEW BERN WOULD BE A BENEFIT GREATLY FROM CONTINUED GROWTH.
IN TERMS OF THE EXPANSION, OR EXCUSE ME, THE DEVELOPMENT WESTWARD.
THIS IS ITS INTENT ESSENTIALLY.
UH, THIS IS YOUR ESSENTIALLY JUST SHOWING THAT URBAN TRANSITION, UH, AREA.
AND YOU WOULD FIND THAT THAT PROPERTY IS, IS WELL WITHIN THAT AREA.
AND I'M HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME FROM THE BOARD THAT I CAN TRY TO ANSWER BOARD, HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? YES, SIR.
SO, UM, MULTIFAMILY IS SPECIAL USE IN THIS, IS THAT CORRECT? AS FAR AS FOR IT, IT DEPENDS ON THE DISTRICT.
MR. DUFFY AS FAR AS FOR WHAT I CAN RECALL, UH, IN R SIX.
WELL THAT'S MR THAT'S THE PROPOSAL, RIGHT? YEAH.
I'M GONNA JUST DEFER TO MR. GOFF.
I DON'T HAVE THE TABLE READILY AVAILABLE.
I DON'T WANT TO MIS ADVISE YOU THIS A SPECIAL, IT'S A SPECIAL USE IS MULTI.
I APOLOGIZE, I DID NOT HAVE THE TABLE, BUT YES SIR.
I HAVE IT, BUT IT'S HARD TO KEEP GOING DOWN, COUNTING DOWN, SEE AS LINE 10, IS THAT RIGHT? R SIX IS LINE 10.
I'VE BEEN TRYING TO FLIP THROUGH IT AND THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT I SO AND MR. DUCK, THAT WOULD GO BEFORE THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT JUST TO YEAH.
YEAH, IF IT PROVIDED IT IS PROVIDED.
WHAT HE'S ASKING, AM I RIGHT, IS SIX ASKING IF IT'S LINE 10 SO EASY TO MAKE A MISTAKE DOING IT, YOU KNOW, TRYING TO YES.
AND IT IS IN LINE 10 YOU'RE SEEING, CORRECT? THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT.
UH, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? JUST ONE MORE.
I DON'T THINK IT WOULD CHANGE MY MIND ABOUT ANYTHING BUT MANUFACTURED HOME, IS THAT A MOBILE HOME OR IS THAT YES, SIR.
THEY'RE LOOKED AT ONE AND THE SAME, ESSENTIALLY.
TYPICALLY A HUD LABEL ASSOCIATED WITH 'EM.
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THAT WAS JUST FOR MY, DOESN'T AFFECT THIS DECISION.ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU KENDRICK.
UH, WITH THAT I WILL, UH, ASK FOR THE APPLICANT TO COME UP AND SPEAK IF THEY SO DESIRE IT.
IS THE APPLICANT HERE TO SPEAK? GOOD EVENING AGAIN, MR. CHAIRMAN.
BOARD MEMBERS, UM, AGAIN, MY NAME IS ERIC REMINGTON.
I'M WITH THE LAW FIRM OF WARDEN SMITH.
'CAUSE WE'RE DOING THIS AS A SEPARATE THING.
I'M GONNA END UP COVERING SOME POINTS THAT I COVERED PREVIOUSLY.
UM, I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT THE TWO DIAGRAMS THAT I HANDED UP EARLIER BE ALSO CON CONSIDERED TO BE AN EXHIBIT IN THIS, UM, PARTICULAR PROCEEDING.
UM, WITH REGARD TO THIS SPECIFIC, COULD YOU PUT UP THE, UH, THE EXHIBIT THAT HAS THE, UH, OPPORTUNITY ON? ALRIGHT, THERE.
UM, AGAIN, WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE LOWER PORTION OF THE YELLOW THERE THAT IS UP AGAINST THE GRAY, UM, THAT IS IN BETWEEN THE TWO OPPORTUNITY ZONES, WHICH ARE THE TEAL CIRCLES ON THAT DIAGRAM.
AND, UH, WOULD BE IDENTIFIED BY A ON THIS, UH, BOARD OVER HERE.
UM, AND THE REQUEST HERE IS THAT THIS BE REZONED TO OR SIX, UH, DESIGNATION.
AGAIN, THIS AREA IS STRATEGICALLY LOCATED IN OR NEAR GROWTH CORRIDORS AND FOCUS AREAS THAT ARE IDENTIFIED IN THE, UH, LAND USE PLAN THAT ARE LOCATED, UH, IN THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD FOCUS AREA IN THAT NORTHWEST QUADRANT, UM, SOUTH OF AND ADJOINING THE NORTH CAROLINA 43 FOCUS AREA, UH, WHICH IS TO THE NORTH.
UM, THE MEETS THIS REQUEST MEETS THE OVERALL GOALS OF THE LAND USE PLAN IN SUPPORTING LAND USES THAT ARE COMPATIBLE WITH SURROUNDING AREA LAND USES AND MAINTAINS COMMUNITY CHARACTERISTICS AS IS SHOWN BY THOSE, UH, EXHIBITS THAT I HANDED UP EARLIER.
THE FACT THAT JUST TO THE NORTH IS ALSO A C3 WITH AN R SIX NEXT TO IT.
UM, AND I'M GONNA ADD SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO IT.
UH, THIS WILL ENCOURAGE, UH, RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN THIS AREA.
UH, WHICH AGAIN, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE MAPS OF NEW BERN, THERE REALLY IS NOT ANY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT PASSED TO THE WEST OF THE GREENBRIAR SUBDIVISION.
UM, PROPERTY POPULATION'S INCREASING STEADILY SINCE 1980, AND AGAIN, MAJOR EMPLOYERS ARE LOCATED OUT IN THAT AREA WITH THE INDUSTRIAL PARKS, UH, AND CAROLINA EAST MOEN AND BOSCH.
UM, BASICALLY THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS WILL BE COMPATIBLE EXTENSION OF THE R SIX ZONES THAT ARE ALREADY OUT THERE.
AND AGAIN, THERE'S ONE TO THE NORTH, UH, THAT'S IN THE, UH, ON HIGHWAY 70 THERE WITH THE C3.
THERE'S ALSO ONE TO THE SOUTH WHERE THAT OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS ON, UH, MAR LUTHER KING BOULEVARD, AND I'LL SHOW YOU THOSE UH, LATER.
UM, R SIX ZONING IS USED IN OTHER AREAS OF NEWBURG AS A TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS.
AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT THIS WOULD BE.
UH, YOU'VE GOT, UH, THE C3 PLUS R SIX ON THERE.
UM, THE CURRENT ZONING IS, UH, A FIVE F BUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AGAIN IS A MIX OF INDUSTRIAL C3 R 10, A R SIX, AND C FIVE.
SO HAVING R SIX IN AN ADDITIONAL AREA IN THIS, UH, PARTICULAR ZONE, UH, WOULD BE APPROPRIATE.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS AN URBAN, UH, TRANSITION AREA.
THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL OR NATURAL HAZARDS FROM FLOODING.
STORM SURGES OR STEEL WILL RISE IN THIS AREA BECAUSE IT'S FAR ENOUGH AWAY FROM THE RIVERS, UH, NOT TO BE AFFECTED BY THAT.
SEWER AND WATER SERVICES WOULD BE EXTENDED TO THE AREA BY THE DEVELOPER.
UH, AND THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED, UH, THROUGH ANY KIND OF DEVELOPMENT PROCESS PLAN.
THIS COMPLIMENTS THOSE GROWTH CORRIDORS AND FOCUS AREAS.
UH, AND IT MEETS THE, THERE ARE SUITABILITY FACTORS THAT ARE LISTED WITHIN THE LAND USE PLAN AND IT MEETS THOSE.
THERE ARE NO ENVIRONMENTAL RESTRICTIONS ON THIS PROPERTY.
UH, AGAIN, WATER AND SEWER WOULD BE EXTENDED.
IT'S GOING TO CONNECT MAJOR ROADS TOGETHER AND WE'LL BE OFF OF THAT.
UM, BETWEEN LOCATED, UH, EQUAL DISTANT BETWEEN THE, UH, HIGHWAY 70 CORRIDOR AND THE MARTIN LUTHER KING, UH, CORRIDOR, UH, CLOSE PROXIMITY TO THE MAJOR EMPLOYERS.
IT ALSO WOULD BE SUITABLE TO ADD AN ADDITIONAL CARTS TRANSPORTATION, UH, ROUTE ONTO IT IN ADDITION TO THE ONES THAT ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE, UM, THROUGH NEW YORK.
UM, AGAIN, THE, THE LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT POLICIES, THE RECOMMENDED POLICIES, UH, ARE, YOU
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KNOW THAT IT'S CONSISTENT WITH ARE LUD 1.4.UH, IT, IT'S GONNA CREATE INFILL DEVELOPMENT, UH, 1.7.
UH, THEY'RE SUITABLE SOILS AND IT'LL HAVE SUITABLE INFRASTRUCTURE 1.8.
IT PROMOTES ADDITIONAL RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AND BALANCED GROWTH ALONG THE CORRIDORS AND IN THE FOCUS AREAS.
THIS IS AGAIN, ESSENTIALLY A GATEWAY INTO NEW BERN AND IT WOULD BE A, UH, A TRANSITION AREA BETWEEN THAT AND SOME OF THE OTHER, UH, AREAS LIKE GREENBRIER.
BUT IT WOULD NOT HAVE ACCESS THROUGH GREENBRIER OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT.
IT WOULD BE ALL OF THE ACCESS WOULD BE OFF OF, UH, A 43 CONNECTOR.
UM, AGAIN, TRAFFIC ANALYSIS IS NOT PART OF THIS PARTICULAR STUDY, BUT THAT WOULD BE A PART OF WHATEVER HAPPENS.
WITH REGARD TO SPECIFIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY, ANY PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL HAVE TO SUBMIT PLANS FOR APPROVAL FOR ALL INFRASTRUCTURE.
THE PROPOSED REZONING, UH, ADJOINS UTILITY SERVED AREAS, AND IT'S SHOWN BY SOME OF THE MAPS IN THE, UM, UH, IN THE LUP UPDATE.
AND THE UTILITIES WOULD THEN BE EXTENDED BY THE, BY THE DEVELOPER.
UM, THE, AS WE TALKED ABOUT, THERE IS GOING TO BE A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WITH REGARD TO THESE AREAS, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE TABLE OF USES ISSUED.
UM, THIS R SIX ZONING IS COMPATIBLE WITH AN R 10 A ZONING.
I THINK MR. DUFFY HAS POINTED OUT TO AREAS WHERE, WHERE THEY DIFFER SLIGHTLY.
ONE IS THE MANUFACTURED HOMES CLASS A MANUFACTURED HOMES, AND THE OTHER IS THE, UH, BOARDING HOMES.
BOARDING HOMES REQUIRE A SPECIAL USE PERMIT.
SO THAT WOULD BE THROUGH A, A MUCH MORE INTENSE QUASI-JUDICIAL TYPE, UH, HEARING.
UM, THE CLASS A MANUFACTURED HOMES, AGAIN, AUER DOESN'T HAVE ANY INTENT FOR THIS AREA TO BE THAT, AND I BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL BE PART OF THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT COMING UP.
UM, DATA CENTERS, AGAIN, THAT WAS ADDRESSED DURING THE COMMERCIAL ONE.
I HAVE, YOU KNOW, I HAVE INTERPRETED AND BELIEVE THAT THE ORDINANCE DOES NOT ALLOW DATA CENTERS IN ANY KIND OF RESIDENTIAL, UH, YOU KNOW, AREA.
SO THIS WOULD NOT ALLOW, THERE WOULD NOT BE A, A DATA CENTER OF ANY KIND OR ANY KIND OF CONNECTION TO A DATA CENTER, UH, IN THIS AREA.
UM, THIS, THIS AREA, AGAIN, SOUTH OF, OF HIGHWAY 70 AND ALONG THE HIGHWAY 43 CORRIDOR IS ALMOST IDENTICAL TO THAT OPPORTUNITY ZONE THAT IS ABOVE, UH, THE HIGHWAY 70 AND ON THE 43, UH, CONNECTOR.
AND THAT'S WHY IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THIS AREA MATCH THAT AREA IN ZONING FROM HAVING C3, WHICH YOU ALL HAVE ALREADY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF.
AND THEN HAVING THE R SIX, UH, NEXT TO IT.
UM, THAT'S THE SAME AS HAS BEEN DONE ON THE, UH, NORTH SIDE.
UM, WAREHOUSER HAS A HISTORY OF WORKING WITH THE CITY, UH, TO MAKE NICE DEVELOPMENTS.
AGAIN, UH, ALL OF NEW BERN, EXCEPT FOR DOWNTOWN WAS FOREST AT ONE POINT, BUT IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED AND, AND WAREHOUSER HAS DONE THAT RESPONSIBLY AND THEY'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF IT.
UM, I DO HAVE, UH, SOME PICTURES THAT I, THAT I'D LIKE TO HAND UP OF THE CURRENT ZONING.
THERE ARE THREE DOCUMENTS HERE THAT I'VE INCLUDED IN THIS EXHIBIT.
WE'D ASK THIS TO BE INCLUDED IN THE RECORD OF THIS HEARING, THIS PARTICULAR HEARING.
THE FIRST ONE IS, UM, AN ACTUAL VIEW OF THE CITY OF NEW BERN ZONING, UH, FOR THE AREA ALONG THIS HIGHWAY 70 CORRIDOR, WHICH SHOWS THE, UM, THAT OPPORTUNITY ZONE AND, UH, HIGHWAY 43 FOCUS AREA.
THEN YOU HAVE THE ORANGE AREA, WHICH IS R SIX, AND THEN YOU HAVE BEHIND THAT R 10, UH, ZONE AND THEN R EIGHT ALSO, UH, IN THAT AREA.
UM, BELOW IT, THE NEXT PAGE, UH, BELOW THIS AREA, WHICH IS DOWN WHERE THE OTHER OPPORTUNITY ZONE IS, YOU CAN SEE THAT THE PINK AREA IS, UH, COMMERCIAL ALL ALONG THE HIGHWAY THERE ALONG MARTIN LUTHER ARD, YOU HAVE R SIX AND THEN IT WOULD LEAD UP.
AND THIS R SIX WOULD ESSENTIALLY BLEND INTO THE R SIX AREA THAT'S ALREADY THERE.
UH, YOU ALSO HAVE THE HIGH SCHOOL, WHICH IS THE C FIVE AREA THERE.
UM, THIS IS AGAIN CONSISTENT WITH IT.
UH, THE LAST PICTURE I'VE INCLUDED, UH, I ONLY INCLUDED THAT.
I KNOW THE ZONING THERE IS IS R 10 FOR GREENBRIAR,
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BUT THIS IS A SECTION OF GREENBRIAR THAT IS FAIRWAY WEST.IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE LOTS, THOSE LOTS ARE 6,000 SQUARE FEET OR LESS.
AND SO IT SHOWS YOU THAT YOU CAN DO NICE DEVELOPMENTS ON A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LOT.
YOU DON'T HAVE TO, UM, YOU KNOW, BASICALLY HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S NOT DESIRABLE BECAUSE THEY'VE DONE THAT IN GREENBRIAR.
SO AGAIN, WE BELIEVE THIS IS REASONABLE.
IT'S CONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE PLAN.
IT MEETS THE FIVE CRITERIA IN THE STATUTE, UH, THAT MR. DUFFY WAS REFERRING TO EARLIER.
AND IT IS, AND THAT'S WHY THE LAND USE PLANS ARE CREATED IS TO, IS TO SHOW THAT THESE REQUESTS ARE REASONABLE AND CONSISTENT WITH THOSE, UM, WITH THAT PROCESS.
SO WE WOULD ASK THAT YOU RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE A, UH, R SIX I FOR THIS AREA.
AND AGAIN, I'D LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO POLL COMMENT.
ALRIGHT, WE'LL, UH, WE'LL HAVE OUR QUESTIONS ARE AT THAT ASK QUESTIONS.
OKAY, LET'S GET ON WITH THE, UH, LET PUBLIC COMMENT, SAME RULES APPLY THREE MINUTES EACH.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH MR. CLEMONS.
I'D LIKE REQUEST AN ADDITIONAL THREE MINUTES IF I CAN.
THAT WILL GIMME A TOTAL OF SIX.
YOU'VE GOT YOUR, YOUR CLOCKS RUNNING UNLESS SOMEONE HERE WANTS TO MAKE A, OKAY, R SIX IS A BAD IDEA FOR THIS AREA AND I'M GONNA REQUEST THIS, THIS BOARD TO DENY AN R SIX IF THIS VOTE IS UP OR DOWN.
SO I WANNA EXPLAIN TO YOU THAT YOU ALREADY KNOW THE DIFFERENCE.
BUT THE GREENBRIAR IS R 10 AND R 15.
THE ORIGINAL GREENBRIAR WHEN IT WAS DEVELOPED WAS R 15 AT THE FRONT.
THE HOUSE THAT I LIVED ON WAS A HALF ACRE LOT.
ALL THOSE LOTS ON PINE VALLEY DRIVE ARE AT LEAST A HALF ACRE.
ALTHOUGH THEY MAY BE R 10, THAT MEANS THEY'RE AT LEAST 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
ALRIGHT? THESE PEOPLE BOUGHT THESE LOTS WITH THE ANTICIPATION THAT THIS WOULD BE, THIS DEVELOPMENT WOULD BE GREENBRIER WEST.
OKAY? GREENBRIER WEST DID THE SAME CAPACITY AS WHAT THEY HAD BEFORE.
NOW THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT TO PLAY WITH.
R SIX IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE.
IT'S NOT REASONABLE BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS AND IT'S NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.
IF THE PUBLIC IS SITTING OUT HERE, WELL HALF OF 'EM ARE GONE, BUT WHEN THEY WERE OUT HERE BEFORE, IF THAT'S THE PUBLIC, IT'S NOT IN THEIR BEST INTEREST.
SO WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES 15,000 OR R 15 GIVE? OKAY, RIGHT NOW THEY COULD DEVELOP R 15.
OKAY? THEY COULD HAVE A PLAN COMMUNITY AND BUILD OUR 15 HOUSES, OKAY? WHICH ARE DESIGNED FOR LOW DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS WITH 15,000 SQUARE FEET.
OKAY? SO THERE'S NO REASON TO CHANGE THAT.
THEY CAN HAVE A NICE DEVELOPMENT, LOOKS LIKE GREENBRIER AND KEEPS THE PROPERTY VALUES UP FROM THE GREENBRIER, RIGHT? BUT THEY WANT TO MOVE IT FROM R 15 TO THE MOST DENSE, WHICH IS R SIX.
SO WHAT DOES R SIX MEAN? THE DEFINITION OF R SIX IS TO ACCOMMODATE SINGLE TWO AND MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
THOSE ARE APARTMENTS OKAY OF 6,000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM BLOCKS FOR ONE DWELLING UNIT AND 2000 SQUARE FEET REQUIRED FOR EACH ADDITIONAL UNIT FOR THE R SIX RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT IN PROMOTING THE GENERAL PURPOSES OF THIS ORDINANCE.
THE SPECIFIC INTENT OF THIS DISTRICT IS TO ENCOURAGE CONTINUED USE OF THE LAND FOR RESIDENTIAL PURPOSES AND CERTAIN COMPATIBLE NON-RESIDENTIAL USES WHERE THE WHOLE IDEA OF THE GREENBRIER IN THE FIRST PLACE WAS TO HAVE A COMPATIBLE USE PRO PLAN THAT WAS SIMILAR TO WHAT IS THERE DOWN.
SO MY FIRST POSITION IS BECAUSE THAT'S NUMBER THERE WANTS TO MOVE NUMBER SIX.
THAT NUMBER SIX SHOULD BE DENIED.
CAN I HAVE THREE MORE MINUTES? THAT'S YOUR TIME.
DOES ANYBODY ON THE BOARD WANNA MAY ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO GIVE MR. CLEMONS THREE MORE MINUTES? I MAKE A MOTION TO GIVE HIM THREE MORE MINUTES.
I HAVE A MOTION TO HEAR A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE.
SO, SO ALTHOUGH YOU DON'T SUBSTITUTE, I MEAN YOU DON'T CHANGE HORSES IN THE MIDDLE OF A RACE.
OKAY? IN OTHER WORDS, I'M NOT UP HERE SAYING WELL GO WITH R 10 OR R 10 S OR WHATEVER.
OKAY? MY POSITION IS THAT THIS GOING FROM R 15 TO R SIX IS A BAD IDEA AND THEY SHOULD START OVER IF YOU WANT TO HAVE AN OPTION.
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R 10 S IS AN OPTION.SO R 10 S IS ESTABLISHING A DIFFERENT, UH, A DISTRICT WHICH IS FOR SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS ONLY, AND IT'S 10,000 SQUARE FEET.
THAT'S AT LEAST, THAT'S ABOUT A THIRD OF THE RE OKAY? AS A MINIMUM THEY COULD BE MORE, BUT AS A MINIMUM, I REALLY DO THINK THAT WAREHOUSER COULD TAKE A, EITHER WHERE WHAT IT HAS NOW ON AN R 15 OR GO INTO AN R 10 S, WHICH HAS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF, OF R 10.
UM, AND IT PROHIBITS TWO FAMILY MULTIFAMILY DWELLINGS ARE PROHIBITED IN RTM S OKAY? THE WHOLE IDEA, I THINK, ALONG THIS SYSTEM, UH, WHERE GREENBRIAR IS, WAS TO PROHIBIT THIS TYPE OF EXPANSION TO PROHIBIT MULTIFAMILY HOUSING TO PROHIBIT TWO HOUSES TOGETHER.
AND SO BECAUSE OF THAT, I THINK IT IS ONE INCONSISTENT WITH THE LAND USE, UM, PLAN OF 2022, NUMBER ONE.
NUMBER TWO, IT IS NOT REASONABLE BECAUSE NOW YOU'RE MOVING ALL THESE DIFFERENT KIND OF PROJECTS RIGHT BESIDE THE GREENBRIER, WHICH IS NOT THAT WAY.
AND CERTAINLY IT'S NOT IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST IF THE PUBLIC IS SITTING OUT HERE.
SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU DENY THE APPLICATION FOR R SIX AND LET 'EM GO BACK TO THE BOARD AND DO SOMETHING ELSE.
MR. CASHMAN, WOULD YOU LIKE THREE MINUTES ON MR WELL, UH, JUST BRIEFLY THAT, I MEAN, I, I COULDN'T STRESS THIS MORE THAT DR SIX IS NOT ANY KIND OF A REASONABLE TRANSITION FROM COMMERCIAL AND THE HIGHWAY THAN WHAT THEY'RE GONNA BUILD AROUND THE HIGHWAY.
I UNDERSTAND AND ACCEPT, BUT GREENBRIER, AS FAR AS I CAN TELL, WAS BUILT TO R 15 STANDARDS, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ZONED, OR THE DISTRICT IS R 10.
AS, UM, GARY SAID THAT THE HOMES ARE HALF ACRE LOTS.
THE, UH, HOMES ARE 2000 SQUARE FEET AND UP.
AND I THINK MR. PARSON HAS TOLD US THAT THEY WERE GONNA PUT OUR 10 HOMES A ROW OF OUR 10 HOMES SEPARATING THE NEIGHBORHOODS.
THE REST OF IT'S GONNA BE R SIX.
THE, THE, THERE COULD PUT MULTI-FAMILY HOMES IN THERE.
AND SOME OF THE CONCERNS OF THE NEIGHBORS, AND I, I THINK YOU'VE PICKED UP ON THE PASSION THAT WE HAVE FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD.
UM, YOU KNOW, THE, THE INCREASED FOOT TRAFFIC FROM THESE R SIX NE HOMES WITH KIDS GOING OVER TO THE, UM, VAPE STORE ON GLEN BURNIE AND THE, UM, CONVENIENCE STORE AND THE GAS STATION AND EVERYTHING.
UM, I HAD A, ONE OF THE GENTLEMEN THAT SPOKE EARLIER TOLD ME ABOUT IN HIS OLD NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY HAD BUILT, UM, LESSER EXPENSIVE HOMES NEARBY.
PEOPLE WOULD GO TO THE, WALK THROUGH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, GO TO THE STORE, COME BACK AND DROP THEIR WRAPPERS AS THEY GO BACK HOME AGAIN.
SO, I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S CUMMINS UNDER THE DEVELOPMENT PROCESS PROBABLY, BUT, BUT THIS IS JUST NOT, NOT AN ACCEPTABLE TRANSITION ZONE.
UH, R SIX, MAYBE SOMETHING ELSE, MAYBE THAT'S, I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT PROCESS WORKS AND EVERYTHING, BUT IT'S TOTALLY NOT COMP, UH, COMPATIBLE WITH, UH, GREENBRIER.
UM, WELL THAT, I'LL CALL ON THE GENTLEMAN THAT TRIED TO SPEAK EARLIER.
YOU CAN COME RIGHT ON UP IF YOU'D LIKE, UH, TO, UH, TO SPEAK.
YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION AND PARDON ME FOR MY NOT UNDERSTANDING.
UM, GOOD EVENING AGAIN, EVERYONE.
I'M A RESIDENT OF GREEN GREENBRIER SUBDIVISION.
UM, AND I'M SPEAKING BEFORE YOU IN OPPOSITION TO THE, THE ZONING REQUEST FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL.
UM, I FIND IT SOMEWHAT TROUBLING THAT THE COUNSELOR REPRESENTING WIREHOUSER IN HIS PRESENTATION DID NOT REFERENCE ONE TIME, UM, THE ZONING REQUEST AND HOW IT MIGHT IMPACT S OR R 15.
HE REFERENCED R 10, NO MENTION OF R 15.
UM, THE PARCEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, UM, PARDON ME FOR A SECOND.
UM, THE PARCEL DIRECTLY ADJACENT, UM, TO R FIVE ZONING ZONING, UM, PERMITS THE REQUEST TO, TO MOVE TO R SIX PERMITS, PERMITS MULTIFAMILY HOUSING BY RIGHT UNDER SECTION 15,000 365 OF THE LAND ORDINANCE USE ORDINANCE.
MANDATORY BUFFERING ONLY APPLIES IF MULTIFAMILY IS
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ACTUALLY BUILT NEAR THAT BOUNDARY.SINGLE FAMILY R SIX DEVELOPMENT TRIGGERS NO STREAMING REQUIREMENT AT ALL BECAUSE THIS IS AN UNCONDITIONAL REZONING.
THERE'S NO WAY TO GUARANTEE WHICH GETS BUILT OR THAT R 15 RESIDENTS GET ANY BUFFER.
UM, R FIFTEEN'S OWN STATED PURPOSE IS TO PROHIBIT USES THAT SUBSTANTIALLY INTERFERE WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OR CONTINUATION OF SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS.
AN UNCONDITIONAL R SIX REZONING AT THIS BOUNDARY WORKS DIRECTLY AGAINST THAT INTENT.
AND I, AND I WOULD POINT OUT IN REVIEW OF THE DOCUMENT, UM, REGARDING THIS REQUEST, THE STAFF EVALUATION ALLOWS THAT THIS REQUEST, UM, CAN BE CONSIDERED UNREASONABLE, I THINK IN, IN TERMS OF HOW IT INTERACTS WITH, UM, R 15, R SIX.
UM, I'M NOT OPPOSED TO GROWTH IN THIS CORRIDOR.
WHAT I'M ASKING IS THAT THE BOARD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL ZONING DISTRICT INSTEAD WITH BINDING COMMITMENTS ON DENSITY STEP DOWN AND BUFFERING NEAR THE R 15 ZONING RATHER THAN AN UNCONDITIONAL, UNCONDITIONAL REZONING ACROSS THE ENTIRE 360 ACRES.
UM, AND IN A CLOSING, UM, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, UNDERST STATE LAW, THIS BOARD MUST ADOPT A WRITTEN CONSISTENCY STATEMENT WITH THIS DECISION.
UH, MY ASK IS THAT, UM, THE STATEMENT SPECIFICALLY ADDRESS HOW R SIX PROTECTS THE ADJOINING R 15 PROPERTIES, GIVEN THAT THE GAP IN THE ORDINANCES BUFFERING REQUIREMENT OF THE EXISTING.
ANYONE ELSE LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? COME RIGHT ON IT.
NEIL ELLI 1 0 4 IN TICE COURT.
UM, AS PEOPLE NOTED, MOST OF THE HOUSES IN GREEN BAR ALREADY ARE ON HALF ACRE, WHICH IS 22,000 SQUARE FEET.
AND WHETHER IT'S ZONED FOR R 10 OR R 15, THE AS IS, IS 22,000 SQUARE FEET.
WHEN YOU START PUTTING HOUSES ON LOTS THAT ARE ONE QUARTER THAT SIZE, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO KEEP UP WITH THE FOUR TO 500,000 VALUATION THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE EXISTING GREENBRIER.
YOU GOTTA BE PUTTING IN HOUSES 200,000, 250,000.
AND SO MY CONCERN IS WHAT IS IT GONNA DO? IT'S PROBABLY GONNA DRAG DOWN THE VALUE OF ALL THE PEOPLE WHO CURRENTLY OWN HOUSES IN GREENBRIAR BECAUSE YOU HAVE THESE HOUSE, UH, HOUSES THAT ARE LITERALLY LESS THAN HALF THE PRICE THAT WE BOUGHT AND EXPECT IT TO MAINTAIN OUR HOUSING VALUE.
SO YOU JUST CUT, CUT OUR LEGS OUT FROM WHAT YOU'VE DONE FOR EVALUATING THE HOUSING.
SO I'D ASK YOU TO PLEASE RECONSIDER AND GO BACK TO THE R 15 AS IT CURRENTLY IS.
ANYONE ELSE? COME RIGHT ON IT.
I LIVE ON, UH, PINEHURST PLACE.
UH, PROBABLY ABOUT 300 YARDS AS THE CROW FLIES TO PINE VALLEY.
I WANT TO TRY AND CREATE A VISUAL FOR YOU GUYS.
VISION YOURSELF THAT YOU LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF PINE VALLEY, YOU'RE SITTING ON YOUR DECK OR YOU'RE IN YOUR SUNROOM.
AND AS YOU LOOK BACK, YOUR PROPERTY.
THE BACK OF YOUR PROPERTY LINE IS ABOUT THE BACK OF THAT WALL THERE RUNS A DRAINAGE DITCH.
THE ENTIRE LENGTH OF PINE VALLEY ON THE WEST SIDE OF THAT DRAINAGE DITCH IS A FOREST PERIOD.
IF I UNDERSTAND THE R SIX ZONING, W HAER COULD POSSIBLY HAVE THE RIGHT TO CLEAR CUT THAT UP TO THE WEST SIDE OF THAT DRAINAGE DITCH.
SO NOW WHEN YOU'RE SITTING ON THE DECK OR YOU'RE IN YOUR SUNROOM DRINKING THE COFFEE TO VISUALIZE THAT, YOU'RE NO LONGER LOOKING AT THAT FOREST OR THE VIEW THAT YOU DID PREVIOUSLY HAD.
YOU CAN BE LOOKING AT THE BACK OF APARTMENTS, TOWN HOMES, OR SMALLER SINGLE FAMILY HOMES LIKE HE SAID.
I THINK IF THAT HAPPENS, I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT'S PROBABLY GONNA REDUCE THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY AND ROOM FOR AS A WHOLE.
SO TAKE A MINUTE, VISUALIZE THAT SCENARIO, PUT YOURSELF IN OUR POSITION AND YOU, I THINK WOULD FEEL HOW WE WOULD FEEL.
ANYONE ELSE? MY NAME IS DAVE GILLESPIE.
ANDREW'S CIRCLE WITH MY WIFE SANDY.
UH, WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR EIGHT YEARS.
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CONCERNED ABOUT THE SAFETY ISSUE.WHEN WE FIRST MOVED TO NEW BERN, UM, WE LIVED DOWNTOWN AND WE WERE TOLD BY A POLICE OFFICER WE SHOULDN'T BE WALKING WHERE WE WERE AT.
HE SAID, I ASKED HIM WHERE THE SAFEST PLACES ARE.
SO WE MOVED THERE AND I GOTTA SAY, YOU KNOW, OUR YARD IS PRETTY BIG.
YOU PUT IN ANOTHER 500 HOMES BEHIND US, WE'RE VULNERABLE.
PEOPLE CAN, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE WE TRAVEL A BIT AND THAT LEAVES US EXPOSED.
I THINK, YOU KNOW, THAT, UH, PER SOME OF THE OTHER DISCUSSIONS, IT'S ALREADY ZONED SO THAT YOU CAN PUT HOUSES IN THERE, DECENT HOUSES THAT, YOU KNOW, SEEMS LIKE WE HAVE A LOT OF R SIX STUFF AROUND.
HOW MUCH MORE DO WE NEED? I MEAN, AT WHAT POINT ARE WE GONNA, YOU KNOW, BE SO OVERCROWDED THAT WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO GET, AS YOU SAID HAS BEEN MENTIONED, SEE A DOCTOR GET OUT AT, ON GLEN BURNIE.
UM, I, I I HOPE YOU WILL, UH, DENY THIS REQUEST AND KEEP IT AT, UH, R RECEIPT R 15 BECAUSE AGAIN, THE PROPERTY IS, YOU KNOW, I, WE GET THAT THERE'S GONNA BE DEVELOPMENT AT SOME POINT, BUT LET'S, LET'S MAKE IT REASONABLE AND YOU KNOW, WE JUST DON'T WANT TO BE EXPOSED.
OTHER THAN WITH ALL OF US PEOPLE, IT SEEMS A LITTLE ODD AND, AND I KNOW IT'S A PROCEDURAL THING THAT OUR BOY GETS THREE MINUTES WHEN, YOU KNOW, WHEN THE, THE PRO SIDE GETS, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE TIMER IS, BUT, UM, THAT'S A MOOT POINT I GUESS.
ANYONE ELSE? ALRIGHT, UH, WITH THAT, UH, WE'LL HAVE THE APPLICANT COME BACK UP AND, UH, TO SPEAK.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I, LIKE MR. CLEMENS USED TO LIVE IN, UH, IN GREENBRIER.
I LIVED ON CORIANDER, UH, DRIVE AT 3002 CORIANDER DRIVE, WHICH IS ACTUALLY IN THE R 15 SECTION THAT THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED EARLIER AND IS RIGHT NEXT TO AN R SIX, UH, ZONING AREA THAT IS OFF OF GLEN BURNEY DRIVE THERE.
AND WE NEVER HAD ANY PROBLEMS WITH THE R SIX PEOPLE, UH, THAT WERE NEIGHBORS WITH US.
UM, SO AGAIN, IS IT REASONABLE TO HAVE AN R SIX ZONING AREA IN THIS, IN THIS PARTICULAR LOCATION? YES.
THERE ARE SO MANY AREAS WITHIN NEW BERN WHERE IT TRANSITIONS FROM R SIX TO R 10 AND SOME OF THOSE I HAVE SHOWN YOU ALL ALSO.
THOSE ARE, UH, WHERE IT TRANSITIONS FROM COMMERCIAL TO R MATTER OF FACT, AGAIN, LOWER, UH, DOWN SOUTH OF THIS IS AN R SIX AREA AND THIS WOULD BLEND INTO THAT AREA.
UM, THIS, THE FOLKS HERE WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THEY SAY THEY BOUGHT THEIR HOMES WITH THE IDEA THAT THIS WOULD BE GREENBRIER WEST, WELL IS NOT PREDOMINANTLY R 15.
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS TABLE OF PERMISSIBLE USES THAT THAT WAS HANDED OUT OR, OR WAS UP HERE FOR HANDOUT, I LOOKED THROUGH IT AND I COMPARED EVERY CATEGORY THAT IS IN R 10 A AGAINST R SIX.
MR. DUFFY POINTED OUT IN ONE OF THE AREAS WHERE IT'S DIFFERENT MANUFACTURED HOMES, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT WAREHOUSE ARE GONNA HAVE INTO, WITH THE CITY IS GONNA SAY SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCES.
AND IT'S GONNA BASICALLY LIMIT IT TO THAT.
THIS IS, UM, IF YOU LOOK AT THESE TWO EXCEPT FOR THE SIZE OF THE LOTS, THEY'RE COMPATIBLE WITH R 10 A, WHICH IS WHAT THESE PEOPLE LIVE IN.
MY DAUGHTERS, I HAVE TWO DAUGHTERS THAT ARE COLLEGE GRADUATES AND THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO LIVE IN A SUBDIVISION WHERE THERE'S $400,000 HOMES, BUT THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO AFFORD ONE THAT'S $250,000 BECAUSE THEY, IF THEY GET A GOOD JOB AND, AND, AND CAN MOVE BACK TO NEWBURG.
SO AGAIN, IS THIS REASONABLE AND DOES IT MEET THE CRITERIA? YES, IT DOES UNDER THE LAND USE PLAN.
SO WE WOULD ASK IF YOU APPROVE THIS, UM, THIS REQUEST TO TOWER SIX RECOMMEND APPROVAL.
JUST A CLARIFICATION ON WHAT YOU SAID.
ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES? MIKE, CAN YOU TALK INTO THE MIC PLEASE? I'M SORRY.
UM, WITH, ARE WE TALKING ABOUT SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOMES? IS THAT CORRECT? S SINGLE FAMILY, UH, RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS, WHICH ARE HOMES WHICH MIGHT HAVE A COMMON WALL WITH A NOT MULTIFAMILY.
YEAH, I THINK WHAT YOU'RE ASKING IS ARE THEY GONNA HAVE A, IS IT GONNA BE A DUPLEX OR IS IT GONNA BE A, UM, AN APARTMENT COMPLEX OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IS THAT WHAT
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YOU'RE ASKING? MR. NO, DUPLEX ACTUALLY IS DIFFERENT.DUPLEX IS A SINGLE, WHAT I LIVE IN IS A SINGLE FAMILY ATTACHED HOME.
THE ONE ATTACHED TO ME IS SIX.
IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT? OKAY.
I I WOULD THINK IT'S, IT COULD BE MORE LIKE WHAT'S IN FAIRWAY AND WEST, WHICH ARE INDIVIDUAL HOMES ON 6,000 SQUARE FOOT LIVES.
SO, UH, I HOPE THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION.
ARE THERE ANY OTHERS HAPPY TO ANSWER YOU MR. UH, THE DITCH THAT RUNS DOWN THE PROPERTY LINE ON THE BACK BETWEEN THIS PROPERTY AND GREENBRIER? YES.
WHO OWNS THAT DITCH? I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION, BUT I CAN FIND OUT.
BECAUSE THAT, IF THERE'S ANYBODY KNOWS WHERE YOUR BACK PROPERTY LINES GO, DO THEY GO BECAUSE AS I RECALL, A FEDERAL PAPER COMPANY PUT THAT CANAL IN THERE, UH, WAY, WAY LONG TIME AGO.
AND I THOUGHT IT WAS ALL ON THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY RATHER THAN THE GREENBRIER PROPERTY.
WHAT DID YOU SAY? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING CLIP PORTION THING.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING IT'S ON THIS PROPERTY AND THAT DITCH IS GOING TO BE MAINTAINED.
JUST A QUESTION, THE, THE DITCHES WILL BE MAINTAINED.
ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS FOR THE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CAN SPEAK TO THIS 'CAUSE WHEN YOU'RE DISCUSSING CONFIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS, BUT CAN YOU TELL US IF WAREHOUSER HAS DISCUSSED AT ALL ABOUT CREATING A BUFFER BETWEEN THE R SIX THAT'S REASONABLE, UM, BETWEEN THE GREENBRIER COMMUNITY AND THIS DEVELOPMENT? THE, UM, THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT'S NOT CONFIDENTIAL.
I MET WITH THE OWNERS LAST WEEK AND SHARED THAT WITH HIM.
UM, IT IS NOT CURRENTLY PROVIDE FOR A BUFFER BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL.
UM, WE WILL, WE HAVE TOLD THEM THAT WE WILL COMPLY WITH WHATEVER THE, UH, STATE ORDINANCE REQUIRES, BUT WE HAVE ALSO COMMITTED TO, WHILE NOT MAKING THAT ZONING R 10, WE HAVE COMMITTED TO ANY LOTS THAT, UM, ABUT ANY RESIDENTIAL AND GREENBRIAR TO BE 10,000 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM BOX SIZE.
AND THAT WILL BE ADDED, THAT'S NOT CURRENTLY IN THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT DRAFT, BUT THAT WILL BE ADDED ALONG WITH THE DATA CENTER PIECE.
IS THERE A SEPARATE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT FOR THIS BLOCK AS VERSUS THE COMMERCIAL BLOCK? NO, IT'S ALL UNDER ONE, ALL WRAPPED UP DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
UM, AND IT IS GONNA BE VERY SIMILAR JUST OVERALL TO, TO WEST NEW BERN IN THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE, UM, MASTER ASSOCIATION OF ALL THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL.
UM, AND IT'S ALL GONNA BE UNDER THE SAME DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, WHICH RUNS WITH THE PROPERTY AND ANY FUTURE OWNER, ANY PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, WE NEED TO COMPLY WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
BUFF BUFFERS ARE WONDERFUL THINGS, QUOTE UNQUOTE WONDERFUL THINGS, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO MAINTAIN THEM FOR THEM TO, I MEAN, IT, YOU CAN'T PUT A BUFFER IN AND THEN IT ALL DIES AND GOES AWAY AND, YOU KNOW, WITHIN FIVE YEARS AND THEN IT'S MIGHT AS WELL NOT HAVE HAD IT.
UH, SO AS YOU TALK, I MEAN WHETHER IT BE IN THE HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION OR A COVENANT AS A, AS A VEGETATIVE BUFFER ON THE BACK OF A LOT OR WHATEVER, I MEAN THAT'S SOMETHING FOR WAREHOUSER TO CONSIDER IN THAT MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT, UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THAT HAS, HAS SOME LIFE TO IT FOR THE BUFFERING EFFECT THAT THAT WOULD BE CREATED.
UM, IN WEST NEWBURN, THE RESIDENTIAL, UM, DEVELOPMENTS THERE ARE UNDER THEIR OWN, UH, RESTRICTED COVENANTS.
UH, THERE'S A RESIDENTIAL COVENANT SEPARATE FROM THE COMMERCIAL COVENANTS IN ADDITION TO THE OVERALL, UH, DECLARATION.
SO THERE WOULD BE AN SUB OWNER'S ASSOCIATION CREATED, UH, FOR ANY, FOR BOTH THE COMMERCIAL AND THE RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT IN, IN THE GATEWAY PIECE HERE.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS WE HAVE? ALRIGHT.
WITH THAT, I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR COUNTY.
WELL WE DO NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND I LIVE ON A 6,000 SQUARE FOOT BLOCK, AN ATTACHED HOME
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DIRECTLY ATTACHED TO ME.SO THAT'S THE TYPE OF SITUATION I LIVE ON.
WE DON'T HAVE NO NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON ANYBODY.
UM, NICE NEIGHBORS, YOU GET TO KNOW EACH OTHER.
I ACTUALLY LIKE HAVING SOMEBODY INVEST ME BECAUSE I FEEL IT'S SAFE OR SOMETHING.
IF I'M AWARE OF SOMETHING, SOMEBODY CAN CALL AND CHECK ON SOMETHING OR WELL, WE DO NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
SO I MEAN, I BOUGHT MINE FOR FAR, FAR LESS, YOU KNOW, 'CAUSE I MOVED HERE AT THE RIGHT TIME.
BUT THE ONE ACROSS THE STREET FROM ME, IDENTICAL TO MINE, UH, IS FOR SALE RIGHT NOW FOR $150,000.
WHICH AT LEAST IS WITHIN THE REALM OF REASON FOR PEOPLE TRYING TO GET STARTED, YOU KNOW? SO, UM, BUT THE DOWN PAYMENT IS LIKE 30,000
THE SO THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT TO THE WEST OF THIS BLOCK BETWEEN, BETWEEN THIS PIECE OF LAND THAT WE'RE CONSIDERING AND THE 43 CONNECTOR ROAD HAS ALREADY BEEN, UM, APPROVED FOR A C3 ZONING.
SO THERE WON'T BE, THERE WILL BE THE, THE, THE COMMERCIAL ASPECT OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEFINED ALONG THE HIGHWAY.
AND AS YOU LOOK AT YOUR MAP AND TELL, IT'S NOT VERY DEEP, BUT IT WILL NOT BE ENCROACHING INTO THIS PARCEL THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UH, THE OTHER FACTOR THAT, THAT I SEE IS, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT THIS LITTLE TRIANGLE OF R 15 AGAINST GREENBRIER, UH, HAVE NO IDEA HOW THAT THAT CREATED OR ANYTHING ABOUT IT.
BUT TO LOOK AT THIS BLOCK OF LAND FOR DEVELOPMENT, IT CANNOT, IT'S, IT'S NOT FEASIBLE FOR IT TO BE SPLIT LIKE THAT.
IT NEEDS TO BE ONE CONTINUOUS, UH, ZONING DISTRICT, UH, IN FOR THAT WHOLE PARCEL OF LAND.
THE ARGUMENTS THAT I'VE HEARD ABOUT THE R 15, UH, ADJACENT TO FROM THE GREENBRIER LOTS THAT ARE R 15, UH, FROM THE MAP THAT I'M LOOKING AT, THERE'S ONLY EIGHT LOTS THAT ARE, UH, ON BA ON BASAL DRIVE THAT ARE, ARE R 15 THAT ARE ADJOINING THIS BLOCK WE'RE LOOKING AT.
SO IT'S A, IT'S A VERY MINIMAL ARGUMENT TO MAKE, UH, ABOUT THE R 15, UH, THE 10 R 10, YOU KNOW, THAT'S THE BULK OF IT IS RAAA RELATIONSHIP OF ADJACENCY BETWEEN AN R SIX AND AN R 10 TO BE CONSIDERED.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT, UM, THIS, THIS ISN'T GREENBRIAR, THIS IS A WHOLE NEW DEVELOPMENT.
UH, TO MY UNDERSTANDING, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE A CONNECTOR TO GREENBRIAR.
UM, NOW, I GUESS THERE MAY BE, THERE COULD BE A, UH, SOMEONE AT THE END OF THAT STREET THAT, UM, NINETIES THERE, UH, THEY COULD SELL THEIR HOUSE AND MAYBE PUT A THING, BUT A LOT, THERE'S A LOT OF IFS AND UPS AND MAYBES.
UM, AND I CAN TELL YOU AS A 40 SOMETHING, UM, THE TREND IN THE GROWING TREND, THE DEVELOP, THE DEVELOPMENT COMMUNITY KNOWS THIS IS NOT TOO LARGE HOUSES AND LARGE GREEN SPACES WITH A LOT OF LAND TO MOW.
IT IS TOWARD SMALLER LOTS AND, AND WITH DECENT HOUSES ON.
BUT, YOU KNOW, FORGET THE AFFORDABILITY PROBLEMS. UM, MY GENERATION DOESN'T WANNA CUT GRASS, DOESN'T WANNA PAY PEOPLE TO CUT GRASS.
UM, SO, YOU KNOW, THERE'S ALREADY IN GREENBRIAR THOUGH, I DON'T REALLY WANNA TALK ABOUT GREENBRIER.
'CAUSE THIS IS IN GREENBRIAR, THERE'S ALREADY 6,000, YOU KNOW, UH, SQUARE FOOT LOTS.
SO I I, THOSE ARGUMENTS TO ME DON'T HOLD WATER.
UH, IN THIS CASE, UH, I I, I UNDERSTAND AND APPRECIATE THE CONCERN, BUT YOU LIVE IN GREENBRIER, THAT'S A DIFFERENT COMMUNITY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I LIVE DOWNTOWN, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN.
IT MIGHT HAPPEN AND WE COULD, COULD HAPPEN.
IT MIGHT HAPPEN TILL THE COWS COME HOME AND, UH, IT'S ALREADY EIGHT 10.
I DON'T, AND I DON'T WANNA DO THAT.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
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WELL, FOR THE SAKE OF FINDING OUT WHERE EVERYBODY IS ON THIS, UH, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE RECOMMEND A RECOMMENDATION TO THE BOARD OF AUBURN TO APPROVE THE PROPOSED ZONING MAP AMENDMENT AND FINDINGS THAT THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT IS CONSISTENT WITH ANY COMPREHENSIVE OR APPLICABLE LAND USE PLANS AND DETERMINED TO BE REASONABLE AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.I HAVE A MOTION, DO I HEAR A SECOND? CAN I AMEN.
THAT I, I WOULD ALSO ADD THAT, UH, YES, I SECOND THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT GOES ON THE RECORD THAT THE, WE ASK THE OTTOMAN TO TAKE SPECIAL CONSIDERATION AND, AND TO THE DEGREE OF OUR RESIDENTS.
AND AS THEY DELIBERATE ON THIS, IS, CAN WE ADD THAT TO THE AMEN? YES, SIR.
IF YOU'RE AGREE WITH, I, I I ACCEPT THAT AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION.
YEAH, I JUST THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION.
I CALL FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ITEM.
[VII.C. REZ-003678-2026, Southeast Corner of US 70 and US 17 Bypass - Rezoning ]
ITEM SEVEN C, SOUTHEAST CORRIDOR OF US 70 AND US 17 BYPASS REZONING.ALRIGHT, I AM HERE TO SHARE THE LAST REZO FOR TONIGHT.
UH, THE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF US HIGHWAY 70 AND THE US 17 BYPASS, UH, WELLO.
THE APPLICANT IS AUER AND THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE APPROXIMATELY 553 ACRES FROM AGRICULTURAL FIVE EDGE TO RESIDENTIAL SIX.
UH, THIS PROPERTY, PROPERTY IS ALSO IN THE ETJ, UH, AND PENDING UH, DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT WILL BE ANN.
ITS UH, SO TAKING A LOOK AT THE VICINITY MAP, WE CAN SEE THAT THE PROPERTY ABOVE, UH, THE 17 BYPASS, UH, TO ITS WEST AND IS SOUTH OF US HIGHWAY 70, UH, WE CAN SEE THE 43 CONNECTOR OFF TO THE EAST.
UH, HERE WE HAVE THE BUFFER MAP.
UM, AGAIN, THIS IS USED FOR MAILING PURPOSES AND TAKING A LOOK AT THE AERIAL, UH, MAP, UH, WE GET AN IDEA OF WHAT'S ON THE GROUND.
SO THE SUBJECT PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED AND IS ABUT SEVERAL UNDEVELOPED PROPERTIES.
UH, SO OFF TO THE WEST YOU CAN SEE THE CRAVEN COUNTY INDUSTRIAL PARK ON BOTH SIDES OF 70 TO THE NORTH IS THE QUARRY.
AND OFF TO THE NORTHEAST YOU CAN SEE A PORTION OF WEST NEWBURN AND ALSO, UH, GREENBRIER OFF TO THE EAST.
TAKING A LOOK AT THE ZONING MAP IN GREEN, WE HAVE THE AGRICULTURAL FIVE F IN GREEN.
SO WE SEE THIS TO THE NORTH OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND TO THE EAST, UH, OFF TO THE NORTHEAST WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF INDUSTRIAL AND GRAY, UH, I ONE AND COMMERCIAL THREE IS GONNA BE IN RED, UH, BUTTING THE PROPERTY TO THE SOUTH.
WE DO HAVE RESIDENTIAL SIX IN THE GOLDEN YELLOW COLOR.
WHEN YOU LOOK OFF TO THE WEST THERE YOU SEE NO COLOR, UH, TO THE PROPERTY.
THIS IS BECAUSE THIS IS LOCATED IN CRAVEN COUNTY'S JURISDICTION, UH, WHICH DOES NOT HAVE ZONING REGULATIONS.
SO THEREFORE THE PROPERTIES ARE UN ZONED.
UH, SO WE'VE ALREADY LOOKED AT THESE DEFINITIONS JUST GOING THROUGH THEM REAL QUICKLY TO GET A RECAP.
THE AGRICULTURAL FIVE F IS A NON LIVESTOCK AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, WHICH INCLUDES FORESTRY AND LOW DIS DENSITY.
UH, RESIDENTIAL, UM, RESIDENTIAL SIX IS A HIGHER DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE WITH SINGLE TO AND MULTI-FAMILY DWELLINGS.
SO WE'VE SEEN THIS MAP BEFORE.
AGAIN, THIS IS THE MARTIN LUTHER KING JUNIOR BOULEVARD FOCUS AREA FROM THE 2022 LANE USE PLAN.
UH, JUST TO DRAW TOWARDS ATTENTION TO WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS PROPERTY, IT IS THE NORTHEAST MOST CORNER.
YOU CAN SEE THE INTER INTERCHANGE OVER THERE IN THE CORNER.
UH, SO WE'VE LOOKED AT THE DEFINITION, UH, FOR THIS FOCUS AREA.
AGAIN, THIS IS GOING FROM THE 2022 LAND USE PLAN, UH, WHICH IDENTIFIES THE FOCUS AREAS BEING, UM, MIXED USE THROUGHOUT.
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SUITABLE HAS SUITABLE AREAS FOR GROWTH AND DEVELOPMENT.AND, UH, THIS FOCUS AREA, UM, NOT RURAL, UH, THE PARTICULAR PROPERTIES DOES HAVE A MIX OF OPEN SPACE IN URBAN TRANSITION.
UH, SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE MAP HERE, AGAIN, WE'RE LOOKING AT THE NORTHWEST MOST CORNER.
THE GREEN REPRESENTS OPEN SPACE IN THE YELLOW REPRESENTS THE URBAN TRANSITION.
IT IS MIX OF, WE GO BACK AND LOOK, UH, IN COMPARISON TO THE MAPS.
YOU SEE THAT THE PROPERTY IS SOMEWHAT CLOSE TO THE 43 CONNECTOR.
SO WE'VE GOT A LITTLE BIT OF THAT IN YELLOW THAT IS PUSHING INTO THAT PROPERTY.
UM, SO OUTTA A LOT OF THIS HAS BEEN DISCUSSED TONIGHT.
UM, BUT I'D LIKE TO, UM, OPEN UP THE FLOOR TO THE BOARD.
UH, IF THEY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REZONING, I'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS.
BOARD WOULD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
UM, WOULD THE APPLICANT LIKE TO COME UP AND SPEAK? NOT REQUIRED, BUT YOU'RE MORE THAN WELCOME TO.
UM, I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF ON THIS ONE.
UM, I THINK THE ONE THAT MAYBE IS DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS ONE THAN THE OTHER IS THE FACT THAT IT'S SPLIT BETWEEN URBAN TRANSITION AND OPEN AREA.
UM, BUT I, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, THINK THAT THE R SIX DESIGNATION HERE IS REASONABLE FOR ALL OF THE REASONS THAT WE STATED THAT.
THE OTHER AREA WAS, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS SPECIFIC AREA AND, AND THE COMPATIBILITY BETWEEN THE R THE C3 ZONES AND THE R SIX ZONES, IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE THIS BE R SIX.
AND ON THE WESTERN SIDE OF IT, YOU GOTTA KEEP IN MIND THAT IT'S THE 17 BYPASS, WHICH HAS NO ACCESS TO IT AND IS A CONTROLLED ACCESS, UH, AREA.
SO I WOULD BELIEVE THAT IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME SORT OF BUFFERS ALONG THE HIGHWAY 17 BYPASS CORRIDOR BECAUSE EVERY TIME I GO THROUGH GOLDSBORO, I LOOK AT THOSE HOUSES THAT ARE RIGHT ON THE GOLDSBORO BYPASS AND I GO, WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANNA BUY THOSE? UM, SO I THINK THERE WILL BE OPEN SPACE THAT WILL BE INCLUDED IN THIS R SIX AREA.
THERE ALREADY IS ONE THAT IS THE, IT DOESN'T SHOW ON THESE MAPS, BUT THERE'S THE POWER LINE EASEMENT THAT GOES RIGHT THROUGH THERE.
AND THAT'S A, AT LEAST A HUNDRED FEET WIDE.
AND THAT'S GONNA BE LEFT NATURAL, UH, AS A NATURAL AREA.
EVEN THOUGH IT'S GONNA BE CUT, IT'S NOT GONNA BE DEVELOPED INTO ANYTHING BECAUSE OF THE EASEMENT.
SO, UH, I THINK WAREHOUSER IS AGAIN DEVELOPED AS A RESPONSIBLE DEVELOPER.
I THINK THEY COMPLY WITH THE CODES AND THEY WILL DO THINGS TO TRY TO, IF THE CITY HAS SUGGESTIONS OR THINGS LIKE THAT AS TO HOW TO INCORPORATE OPEN SPACE INTO THIS, UH, R SIX DESIGNATION, I'LL DO THAT.
BUT FOR ALL THE REASONS I SAID THAT THE R SIX DESIGNATION BELOW WAS CORRECT, I'M GONNA ASK YOU TO AGAIN PROVE THIS OR RECORD APPROVAL TO THIS REQUEST THE BOARD HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT.
UM, WITH THAT, IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? ALL RIGHT.
HEARING NONE, UH, I WILL OPEN IT UP TO THE, UH, BOARD FOR DISCUSSION.
AND I UNDERSTANDING THE R SIX UNDER WHERE IT SAYS MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENCE IS AN S SO THAT REQUIRES THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
AND DOES THAT MEAN THAT LARGE APARTMENT COMPLEXES WON'T JUST SPRING UP WITHOUT CONSIDERATION OR? THAT'S CORRECT.
ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO BUILD A MULTI-FAMILY DEVELOPMENT WOULD HAVE TO GET A SPECIAL USE PERMIT ISSUED BY THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT WHO WOULD CONDUCT A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING TO HEAR EVIDENCE ABOUT THE SUITABILITY OF THAT DEVELOPMENT.
I'VE ENTERTAIN AN HONOR, UH, A MOTION ON THIS ITEM.
ANY MOTION FOR AGAINST MAKE A MOTION? I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE ARE APPROVED THIS RESIDENTIAL ZONE IN 0 0 3 6 7 8 DASH 2026.
UM, AND THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE 2022 LAND USE PLAN AND IS
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DETERMINED TO BE REASONABLE AND IN THE PUBLIC INTEREST.I HAVE A MOTION TO HEAR A SECOND.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? TO STAY CONSISTENT, I'M GONNA ASK FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE ON THIS ONE AS WELL.
[VIII. NEW BUSINESS ]
BUSINESS FROM THE BOARD? ANY? NONE.[IX. STAFF COMMENTS ]
STAFF HAVE ANY COMMENTS THAT THEY WANT TO ADD? UH, THE ONLY THING I'LL ADD, I'M, I, THIS BOARD HAD A VERY CHALLENGING TASK THIS EVENING, AND I THOUGHT YOU DID A GREAT JOB.AND I CAN'T, UH, LET THE NIGHT GO TO AN END WITHOUT COMPLIMENTING THE COMMUNITY EITHER.
UH, THEY WERE ALSO IN A VERY TOUGH POSITION.
I THINK, UH, THEY'RE VERY NERVOUS ABOUT CHANGE.
THEY COMPOSED AND SHARING THEIR FEELINGS WITH US.
WE HAVE RECEIVED SUCH A HIGH VOLUME OF INPUT FROM THEM.
AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN NEXT IS WHEN THIS IS PACKAGED TO MOVE ON FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS, UH, WE WILL SHARE ALL OF THAT MUCH OF WHAT THEY SHARED.
LIKE I I TOLD YOU EARLIER, TODAY IS VERY APPLICABLE TO THE DECISION THE BOARD OF ALLMAN NEEDS TO MAKE.
AND SO THE TIME THEY SPENT, UM, CRAFTING, AND YOU SAW ALL OF THIS CORRESPONDENCE, PEOPLE DIDN'T PHONE IT IN.
THEY, THEY SPENT A LONG TIME CONVEYING THEIR NEEDS.
SOME OF THEM MADE EXCELLENT POINTS.
I'M GOING TO MAKE SURE THOSE ARE SHARED WITH THE ALDERMAN.
AND, UH, THE POINTS THAT WERE RECURRING TODAY, UH, THAT YOU HAVE MADE DURING YOUR DISCUSSION WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO THE STAFF REPORTS WHEN THEY MOVE ON, UM, BECAUSE THEY TELL THE REST OF THE STORY THAT SOMETIMES THE LAW DOES NOT ALLOW US TO CONVEY.
I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S PATIENT WITH THIS LONG MEETING.
PATIENCE WITH THE LONG MEETING.
I'D LIKE TO THANK NOLA FOR KEEPING US UP TO DATE ON LETTERS THAT YOU WERE RECEIVING SO THAT WE, WE, WE GOT A BETTER FEEL FOR THE, THE THOUGHTS AND CONCERNS OF THE, OF THE RESIDENTS.
AND ERIC, THE KEY TO THIS WHOLE THING BEING SUCCESSFUL LONG TERM IS GONNA BE THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
AND W HAER, I, I WON'T BASICALLY FEEL LIKE THEY HAVE A MORAL OBLIGATION TO PROVIDE ADEQUATE BUFFERING, UH, ALONG THE GREEN BROAD PROPERTY LINE CENTS.
UM, WITH THAT, I SECOND JESSICA'S COMMENTS.
UM, AND I HOPE, UH, THAT THE PUBLIC'S CONCERNS ARE CONTINUED TO BE ADDRESSED 'CAUSE THEY'RE IMPORTANT.
UM, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY WERE HERE.
AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT THEY COME AND THEY CONTINUE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS.
UM, SO WITH THAT, I'LL ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
I HAVE A MOTION TO SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION HERE? NONE.